Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on Kentucky Derby Day

It’s Kentucky Derby Day!

Here at Big Pink we are all excited. The race, the people, the horses, the silks, the hats – all are exciting!

First, the horses in the race:

Cool Coal Man, Tale of Ekati, Anak Nakal, Court Vision, Eight Belles, Z Fortune, Big Truck, Visionaire, Pyro, colonel John, Z Humor, Smooth Air, Bob Black Jack, Monba, Adriano, Denis of Cork, Cowboy Cal, Recapturetheglory, Gayego, and Big Brown.

The Kentucky Derby is not just about the horse running in the race:

It takes a team to produce a Derby winner – from the breeders’ initial mating, through the foaling on the farm, and then finally to the racetrack. Once every spring, one team made up of jockey, owner, trainer and breeder realizes its dream in the Kentucky Derby Winner’s Circle at Churchill Downs.

The Kentucky Derby official song is the great Stephen Foster classic My Old Kentucky Home. The official drink is the Mint Julep.

What exactly is the Kentucky Derby?

The Kentucky Derby is a Grade I stakes race for three-year-old thoroughbred horses, held annually in Louisville, Kentucky, on the first Saturday in May, capping the two-week-long Kentucky Derby Festival. The race is one and a quarter miles (2 km) at Churchill Downs. Colts and geldings carry 126 pounds (57.2 kg) and fillies 121 pounds (54.9 kg).[1] The race is known in the United States as “The Most Exciting Two Minutes in Sports” for its approximate duration, and is also called “The Run for the Roses” for the blanket of roses draped over the winner. It is the first leg of the Triple Crown of Thoroughbred Racing in the US and typically draws around 155,000 fans.

The Kentucky Derby bills itself as “The Most Exciting Two Minutes in Sports”. This is not exactly true. The Kentucky Derby is the final 2 minutes in a very long process. The horses in the Kentucky Derby are the best of the best having proven their merit for years.

By now many readers of Big Pink are wondering “Why are we reading so much about a blasted horse race?”

Aside from a naked, shameless, pander to the voters in that great and wonderful state of Kentucky there are lessons to be learned from the Kentucky Derby in this 2008 Presidential race.

First of all let’s take notice that all the horses running for this big prize in Kentucky – have experience.

The horses running in the Kentucky Derby have proven their mettle and worth for years. These are champions. A horse can’t just come in from carting vegetables and run for the Roses.

Second, although there are 20 horses in the lineup, its possible not all of them will run. One or several horses might be “scratched”. For whatever reasons, strategic, health of horse, injury, some horses get pulled from the race by the owners. Some horses get “scratched” from the race by officials.

But guess what, just because a horse gets “scratched” the race is still run. The horses still run.

The owners of the horse that got “scratched” voluntarily cannot state that the race does not count. The owners of the horse that got “scratched” voluntarily cannot demand a share in the purse. The owners of the horse that got “scratched” voluntarily cannot say that race is invalid because “I did not participate”. The owners of the horse that got “scratched” voluntarily cannot ask millions of viewers of the race and bettors and historians to erase the race results from history.

Dean/Obama/Brazille/Pelosi must have the respect for Michigan (and Florida) voters that horse racing officials have for their participants.

Happy Derby!

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292 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on Kentucky Derby Day

  1. Chelsea’s at the Derby today! She’s on the front page of Yahoo wearing a cool hat, lol.

  2. Updated 2:56pm CT – Obama – 1,720 votes (53.3) to Clinton 1,509 (46.7%), Obama picks up Yigo and Talofofo.

    3 villages left.

  3. hillary may beat bambi in guam-
    http://www.kuam.com/news/27692.aspx

    Ballots from Agat, Yona, Dededo could change outcome of caucus

    18 villages down, 3 to go. And the remaining villages that are uncounted could possibly sway the results of the Guam Democrat Caucus in Hillary Clinton’s favor. With the votes from only Agat, Yona and Dededo left to be tabulated by volunteers down in Hagatna at the Guam Legislature, the race for the presidential candidate hopeful is really starting to take an interesting twist. Barack Obama has led pretty much all the way, with Clinton gaining favor late in the tallying, slowly chipping away at a lead that got as large as 8%.

    Currently Clinton trails Obama by 211 votes, garnering 46.7% of the vote (1,509) to Obama’s 53.3% (1,720).

    The Democrat Party of Guam, admittedly pleased at the unexpected surge in voter turnout during Saturday’s caucus for the delegates/superdelegates (Guam citizens cannot directly cast votes for president, despite being full United States citizens), found themselves spending the last 10 hours overwhelmed at the volume of work required to count all the ballots. Initial party representatives hoped to have full results completed within a few hours after the polls closed at 8pm Saturday; they’re now projecting a final tally – with the remaining municipalities being among Guam’s largest – being completed sometime late this morning or even sometime Sunday afternoon.

    So while the local community awakens to learn of an all-too-familiar conundrum of incomplete next-day election results (with the global audience paying astute attention to the political events unfolding half a world away), the next few hours will be critical for Guam, for Democrats, and for each candidate.

    Stay tuned.

  4. Texan, I would not count om that. I think he will probably win the big villiage of Dededo because he won the two large villiages around it. But it looks like she will do better than predicted.

  5. 18 villages down, 3 to go. And the remaining villages that are uncounted could possibly sway the results of the Guam Democrat Caucus in Hillary Clinton’s favor. With the votes from only Agat, Yona and Dededo left to be tabulated by volunteers down in Hagatna at the Guam Legislature, the race for the presidential candidate hopeful is really starting to take an interesting twist. Barack Obama has led pretty much all the way, with Clinton gaining favor late in the tallying, slowly chipping away at a lead that got as large as 8%.

    Currently Clinton trails Obama by 211 votes, garnering 46.7% of the vote (1,509) to Obama’s 53.3% (1,720).

  6. It’s all come down to one village. Presidential candidate hopeful Senator Hillary Clinton decidedly took Agat, and Barack Obama just barely won Yona for the Guam Democrat Caucus, bringing Obama’s lead to just 5.5%. And the only remaining village left to be counted is Dededo, Guam’s second-largest municipality and its most populated.

    Senator Obama now has 1,951 votes, with Senator Clinton garnering 1,748. Rough estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau peg the population of the northern village being around 46,000 – about a third of the total Guam community.

    As far as the voting race for the chairmanship of the Democratic Party of Guam, Pilar Lujan has earned 44.4% of the public’s vote, with Joseph Cameron second at 33.5%.

  7. Now we get to see how well the teachers did in Dededo for Hillary. Estimates are that the vote there was anywhere between 1400 and 1800 votes.

  8. Paula
    The biggest reason Hillary is doing so well is that even though it is called a caucus, voters go into a voting both to cast ballots. It is just a primary called a caucus like NM.

  9. She has to overcome the 203 votes plus whatever else to nab guam from obama

  10. Yeah, make calls in NC and tell’em BO voted for suspending the gas tax while a state senator, now he’s ridiculing Hill for proposing the same.

    Tell’em he’s an elitist phony fuck.

  11. Someone said something about teachers in guam? What’s the deal? Where’s the base also?

  12. Blue Democrat Says:

    May 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
    well, we should have definitely paid off 204 more people than they did.

    LOL. That was my thought exactly. 🙂

  13. (Tryin’ to do four things at once here)

    Willie Brown, the former Mayor of San Francisco and previous Super Delegate for 20 years, on the PBS show NOW:

    Super Delegates … whose responsibility it is to look out for the Democratic party. These people are the keepers of the Holy Grail, so to speak. They are the individuals who under all circumstances can withstand the popular wins if necessary, to protect the integrity of the Democratic party. Obama’s issue in the last week and a half, has had more to do with addressing their concerns. Believe me, they know that [the Republican slime machine] have not unloaded on Obama, and believe me, they are looking at Obama’s ability to repair himself in this short time span. If he cannot, I would predict that it will be a lot more difficult for him to persuade that collection of unpledged delegates. Their interest is in defeating the Republican nominee.

    (Michigan and Florida ?)

    You can’t envision winning this thing without those two states. That’s why your gonna see, sooner than later, compromises being floated out by responsible people on how you settle Michigan and how you settle Florida.

    (Doesn’t any deal to seat some of the Florida or Michigan delegates favor Hillary Clinton ?)

    You can’t view a solution as favoring or not favoring. Always somebody is gonna be advantaged. I can assure you, however, that if you’re going to win the presidency, you have got to put Florida and Michigan in the selection process.

  14. Guam was supposed to big OBAMA territory and he had a lot of operatives working for him and CNN thinks that this is gonna be a lot closer than bambi and company hoped for…

  15. dot, no kidding. It was supposed to be a blow out for him. I think he predict 3 or 4 delegates for him, 1 for Hill. I doubt she will win that last big village because he won the two bigger villiages around it, but if we keep it close, it’s a win.

  16. Does anyone know, if they just sat the delegates as is, with FL and MI inlcuded, what would the delegate count be?

  17. Hey guys,

    I just made my first 4 calls to Indiana. I got only one person, who was a Repub, 2 invalid numbers, and 1 voice mail. But I broke the ice for myself¡ I;ve been so shy about calling. Do you think it;s more important to call NC? Thought i;d start with Indiana.

  18. I think they are probably hoping some of those Repubs come out and vote for her. Both states are important. Thanks for calling.

  19. Darn, it’s hard to call from my cell phone! the connections aren’t good.

  20. It’s funny that it’s a day of racing horses when all I can think of when imagining Dean, Pelosi and Obama is a figurative turkey shoot for the GOP.

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  21. I said something obnoxious regarding pelosi on this site.
    I was hit with a “watch your mouth” reponse nothing else but watch your typing.
    Calling her an offensive derogatory term, I should have been called out. I was wrong for calling pelosi a hole. I was angry, but noone on this board has a right to tell me to watch my mouth!!! I as a gay men accept the numerous references to someone on msnbc/cnn S***ing
    Obamas maleness. I read and i do not call foul. If i felt that something was utterred that crossed a line I would address it to the author. All I ask is fairness when it comes to calling someone out. And please call me out when i say something like I did . But do not assume that you may dictate what i SAY.

  22. A JOKE:

    Senator Clinton was taking Dalai Lama to see the Statue of Liberty.
    During boat ride the Tibetan leader’s shawl (shoulder wrap) catches breeze and blows off. Everyone on the boat goes into panic mode, scrambling about.
    Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton calmly climbs down the ferry, walks on water and retrieves the shawl.
    But the headlines next day scream: Hillary can’t swim!

  23. Henry,

    YIKES!!!!!!! I thought that had been settled several threads ago!

    As Emmy once told me, enough with the Mea Culpas! 😉

  24. Basil9
    I have been on only once since then. My problem is with someone sayong watch your mouth. I was wrong I apologized, but noone tells me to watch my mouth. If i had written those words to you what would have been you response???

  25. henry,
    i know how you feel. I gotta pretty mad a couple of weeks ago when someone called me out for racist comments coz of calling a certain person the SAME name as a famous SCRUBBY pad!!!!!! I swore I’d never return but this place is too good to bypass.
    I saw the thread you’re referring too but I didn’t think you meant anything by it . . . .
    We like you here so glad to see you back.

    😀

  26. come on guys

    the race for the roses is up..”8 bells” number 5 is hillary’s pick..the only filly in the race. let’s go!

  27. basil9
    i was one of the people who said brillohead was unacceptable. I however believe i did not attack you all i said was that it was unacceptable. Looking back I should have been more specific as to why the word was offensive.

  28. henry .. lets work this weekend to help Hill in NC and IN. Let all this stuff go…our eye needs to be on getting the votes out…

  29. dot48
    absolutely right i will contribute and make people i know call. me calling not a good thing??

  30. just finished my nc calls- most pro hillary. men and women. i must have been calling a fairly well educated area as well. a few obama folks, few hangups. but nearly all hillary. some have been called no a dozen times. its time for a new actviate to come out

  31. henry, thanks. Yes, all eyes on NC and IN .. I’m incredibly nervous for some reason even though I’ve gotten good phone banking results all week long.

    Any final news on Guam???

  32. If the race is close in Guam, do the delegates split 2-2, or does the winner get 3 and the loser 1? What’s the threshold for deciding this? That’s really more important than the percentages.

  33. any plans by anyone anywhere to examine the new registrations everywhere. I would definately contribute to such an analysis. how many students voted twice?

  34. Actually it looked like Big Brown pulled away at the end and I think it was more 8 Bells falling back because the injuries already occured or were occuring right at the end.

  35. Did Hillary actually say she was for 8 Bells, or are we just assuming this would be her pick because the horse was a girl? That’s certainly not a good sign. 🙁

  36. This Guam was supposed to be a huge win for him, does not seem that way at present.

  37. From Politico;
    This wouldn’t surprise me at all, that Edwards hadn’t established true political clout in NC.
    Nor would it surprise me if this were a way to knock Edwards down before he actually did endorse (like maybe Monday?).

    (There’s no such thing as paranoia; it’s all true 🙂

    Edwards lacks North Carolina clout
    By: Charles Mahtesian and Richard T. Cullen
    May 3, 2008 06:35 PM EST

    For all the speculation surrounding John Edwards’ conspicuous silence on the eve of his home state’s primary, one important fact has been overlooked: According to North Carolina’s political class, the former Democratic presidential contender has virtually no clout at all in his home state.

    The former senator and 2004 Democratic vice presidential nominee, they say, was like a political comet. He seemingly appeared out of nowhere, inspired awe with the intensity of his talent, blazed through a single term in the Senate, then disappeared from the radar almost entirely.

    “The guy is truly an exceptional story, but for someone who is so well-known nationally, he has very little standing in the party in this state,” says John Davis, president of the North Carolina Forum for Research and Economic Education (NCFREE), a business-backed organization that conducts political research. “You simply do not hear his name associated with the work in the vineyards and making a difference in terms of fundraisers or endorsements.”

    Insiders agree that even if Edwards decided to endorse Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination, he would have no discernable political organization to fire up on their behalf.

    “He developed some, but not really deep ties,” said Gary Pearce, a Raleigh-based consultant who worked on Edwards’ 1998 Senate run. “He pretty quickly began looking at a national ticket and worked hard on building more of a national political organization rather than one in the state.”

    Among North Carolina Democrats, there is a feeling of pride about Edwards’ role on the national stage but at the same time there is an unmistakable sense of detachment. Unlike most statewide politicians, he did not patiently work his way up the office-holding ladder. He had almost no involvement with the state party prior to winning his Senate seat in 1998, a race where his ability to self-fund made him an especially attractive candidate to take on a vulnerable first-term Republican.

    “I think most North Carolina Democrats are very proud of John Edwards, of his campaign for president, of the influence he has had, but he had not been involved in politics before he ran for the Senate, he had not voted in the 1994 election and perhaps a couple others as well,” said Congressman Brad Miller, who represents a Raleigh-area district. “He’s probably gone to more political events in Iowa in the last four years than in North Carolina, which is understandable.”

    That nationally oriented approach began almost immediately after Edwards arrived in Washington, where he was quickly recognized as a rising star. He started running for president just four years into his first term, which limited his ability to establish connections in North Carolina’s 100 counties and raised questions about whether he was merely using his Senate seat as a stepping stone.

    “A lot of people in North Carolina feel that he didn’t tend to North Carolina issues when he was running for president and there’s some resentment of that, even among Democrats,” said Clyde Frazier, a professor of American politics at Meredith College in Raleigh.

    “Sure, there’s always carping and complaining about that, there was a fair amount of that,” added Pearce. “There was also among some people, not those people, some excitement that there was the possibility of having a president from North Carolina.”

    Still, it wasn’t immediately clear that Edwards could even win reelection in 2004. And while he explored a presidential run, his delay in committing to run for a second term was frustrating to some in the party who worried that Democrats could lose the seat if he didn’t make his intentions known so that possible successors could begin assembling their campaigns. Democrats ultimately lost the seat that year to Republican Elizabeth Dole.

    “He would have never gotten reelected, his approval rating was under 50 percent,” said a veteran Raleigh-based Democratic lobbyist. “You would never have called him part of the party apparatus; he’s never even been remotely part of it.”

    John Davis of NCFREE suggests that Obama and Clinton shouldn’t hold their breath waiting for a game-changing Edwards endorsement.

    “It would carry no weight,” says Davis, who also edits The Almanac of North Carolina Politics, a 750-page tome that profiles North Carolina politicians. “He didn’t help carry any state in the Southeast, his own home county or even his home precinct in 2004.”

  38. Oh Kennedy is not so sure now, looks like he’s concerned. Thats very telling.

    news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1091361&srvc=home&position=2

    Sen. Edward M. Kennedy admitted yesterday that Barack Obama is running out of time to sew up the Democratic presidential nomination but remains “hopeful” the Illinois senator will overcome Hillary Clinton’s late surge.

  39. Something funny about the Edwards piece .. just last week everyone was asking “when” ..

    Yep, Edwards is getting ready to endorse Hillary .. trying to devalue his endorsement

  40. Trying to post this but they want a damn registration.

    h t t p : / / http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/the_inestimable_popular_vote_e.php?page=1

    Actually Barone’s figures give HIllary the popular vote lead by any count now.

    Estimating popular vote backwards from caucus delegates has two problems. The easiest one to adjust for is that caucuses favor Obama’s voters over Clinton’s. WA state had both caucus and primary, and Obama did 16% better in the caucus than in the primary. So in extrapolating actual popular vote for other caucus states, we’d have to move 16% from his column into hers.

    Less easy to figure is low turnout. The state gives the same total delegates on a small or a large turnout.

  41. Guam results are GOOD for Hillary. Obama was supposed to BLOW IT OUT there. He had ads, he had paid staff, and he only wins by 7 votes? In a caucus? When he was leading by over 11% just 2 weeks ago?

    This was not good for Bambi.

  42. That would be major news if Fat F*ck Teddy was beginning to publicly hedge his bets.
    That said, it’s difficult to tell if this headline wasn’t twisted from the Senator’s words, or if it was an intentional dropping of ‘hints’ by TK, which would be the beauty of his remarks, I suppose. You decide.

    Kennedy still ‘hopeful’ Obama will win Dem. nomination
    By Dave Wedge | Saturday, May 3, 2008 |

    Sen. Edward M. Kennedy admitted yesterday that Barack Obama is running out of time to sew up the Democratic presidential nomination but remains “hopeful” the Illinois senator will overcome Hillary Clinton’s late surge.

    “Barack Obama represents a newer vision. He has been able to bring newer groups into the political process, people that have tired of politics of division, politics of fear and politics of special interests,” Kennedy said.

    Kennedy, who campaigned for Obama in the days leading up to last month’s crucial Pennsylvania primary, said he’ll be back on the road stumping for Obama this weekend in preparation for Tuesday’s primaries in Indiana and North Carolina. Obama could wrap up the nomination with wins in both states while Clinton could take a major step forward in her comeback with victories.

    “I’ll be out across the country. We’re beginning to run out of time, but I’ve been campaigning and traveling,” Kennedy (D-Mass) said at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library yesterday. “I’m hopeful of what the outcome will be in those states.”

    Kennedy and Sen. John F. Kerry are both supporting Obama in his battle against Clinton (D-N.Y.). Kennedy said despite Obama’s recent slips, he remains the best choice for the Democratic party and the country.

    “He still offers the best opportunity for new leadership in this country,” Kennedy said.

    Obama and Clinton were both in North Carolina last night. Obama has been leading in recent polls in North Carolina while Clinton picked up a big endorsement from Indiana’s largest newspaper, the Indianapolis Star.

  43. rjk,

    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    Dot, Hope you’re right. So sad about the Derby. That’s why I can’t watch racing. 🙁

    Henry,
    fergeddabouda it.

    ADMIN – Wonderful post, as usual.

  44. 7 votes, i am pissing myself, the obamabots are portraying this as a huge win in a pro-clinton state, i am taking the piss out of them massive.

    Thats hilarious. SD’s look out your boy just slid in where Hillary had no chance, a caucus and a neighbour to Hawaii and his goons everyhwehre and statistically its 50/50

  45. woohoo…how will cnn Spin this!!!

    THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BLOW OUT FOR HIM…AND IT’S A CAUCUS …

  46. OBAMA ran TV ads, had paid staff, had a whole organization there. He was MASSIVELY ahead in the polls. Hillary did not even compete.

  47. Dot48, I am sure Obama’s goon were out in full force. So this is very good news, they can’t sping this as another knock out blow to Hillary. I am sure the delegates will be split evenly. I wonder if their was any illegal stuff going on. You know there was, afterall, Obamabots were out in full force!!

  48. BO is a Hawaii native, so Guam viewed him as a favored son. He should have won Guam BIG.

  49. rjk,
    “Damn Old Rev Wright has worldwide appeal doesn’t he??|:
    hehehehe.
    But i gotta tell ya, after dot posted about the longer excerpts on Beck I tuned in and while Jerry’s statements were disgustung and outrageous, they didn’t just pop up out of nowhere – he does have a perspective, a position, and I thought he made some d@mn good points. Of course those repeated in the sound bytes weren’t among them but after viewing i really felt sorry for Wright because of the way Waffles sacrificed him. I’m no fan of black liberation theology or any of the other extremist religions, including jihadism, but at least he seems to have the courage of his convictions whereas Waffles has NO convictions other than the CONVICTION he should be prez.
    As Jerry says. No No No! And I also got that Jerry was hurt by Waffles betrayal. Still, I’m not gonna shed too many tears about it. 👿

  50. They are saying an unusual high number of “spoiled” ballots in the Hillary area. It may not be over yet if they recount.

  51. Dededo village has 1/3 of total population they are missing ballots big time. Reports are that there were a large number of spoiled ballots. Question is who determines whether a ballot is spoiled. Is it a coincidence that the large amount of spoiled ballots occur in the only village Hillary wins big. There should have been at least 1400 ballots cast there and only 820 counted, something very fishy!

  52. Wait does this mean he beat her by having seven more votes than her? I really don’t know the voting lingo.

  53. basil, I’ve got horses and have had to put em down, it’s terribly heartbreaking. I just had to go hunt a Xanax .. hadn’t planned to watch but caught the replay where she went down. WHAT HEART .. that is what makes a good horse. I slept in a stall for 30 days in UT Vet hospital with a filly .. praying, promising, hoping .. like to killed me to lose her –

  54. so, I hope she demands a recount .. with all those spoiled ballots she is bound to have more votes

  55. Yep, basil – BO had 2 paid staff, volunteers, a couple of offices, and ran TV ads. Hill did BUPKUS.

    FOX saying that the ballots from Hill’s strong area look funny – way too many rejected ballots.

  56. Time to send in the lawyers and have every spoiled ballot checked and double checked, we will pick up a hell of a lot more than 7 votes. maybe 700

  57. Oh Dot, I could never do that more than once. I swear, I’d never be able to have another horse.

    This reminds me of that wonderful colt who had to be put down last year – broke my heart so much i can’t even remember his name . . . .

    I had to put my old deaf blind bichon to sleep last summer and I swore no more dogs for me. Venus, OTOH, my blue-front Amazon can live to be 98 and she’s only 30 or so.

    😥

  58. Someone on TM says that there were only around 840 “good” ballots from Dededo, Hill’s best village.

    There should have been around 1400, so that is a LOT of ballots that got thrown out.

  59. dot48, I have horses, I had to put my very best horse down, she tried to jump a fence and fell and broke her neck. It was a horrible time. I loved that horse. I had horses since I was 5 y.o. , I can’t watch horse racing and especially jumping events. She was quarter horse/running horse, she was beautiful. I hope admin changes the heading soon. I can’t stand to hear of a horse dying like that!!

  60. confloyd…….so sorry to hear that!! I too am a horse owner, so far i haven’t had to deal with any of them dying
    but have had to deal with that on a friends ranch (colic a few times)

    my boys are pretty young so they will probably out live me LOL

  61. A spoiled ballot is one that is filled out incorrectly. It gets thrown out of the total – not counted. There were a LOT MORE of those in Dededo (the area that went strongly for Hill) than in other areas.

    Smells fishy.

  62. i wonder if those spoiled ballots were the “prefilled out fake ballots” i heard about the other day, that obama supporters
    made copies of ballots and prefilled them out for obama

    maybe people didn’t notice the obama check and checked it for hillary instead??

  63. i hope hillary sends out a big THANK YOU to the people of guam. what a great win for everyone.

  64. I didn’t realized so many horse owners are for Hillary. Maybe its because we all admire a thoroughbred when we see one! 🙂

  65. lol, the Obama trying to spin the “a wins a win” mantra. Lol, 7 votes out of 5000, lol, yeah thats a huge win.

    I’m pissing myself laughing. If they even try and spin this as a win and not a draw, i will just laugh at their embarrassment.

  66. birdgal,
    A very bad pun! 😳
    I meant that it’s evidently finally becoming clear even to the media that there’s something not kosher about Waffles and cauci, that’s all. It’s one thing to hide votes among thousands cast but . . 7 . . . . Red Flag!

    And I’m not even watching TV. i find I get most of the relevant info here these days.

    confloyd,
    I hope admin changes threads, too. 😥

  67. Still own 4 world champion Tennesse Walkers .. have been around the big oval and miss showing more than anything in the world. Many wonderful memories.

  68. djia
    The only ballots that can be used are ballots given out at the polling place. Before votes are counted they are balanced againt the number issued to each village every ballot whether used or not for each village must be counted to make sure they get them all back. T hen the used ones are counted. So why Obam’a people would waste their money making ballots for people to drop off is beyond me..

    By the way when the official tally has Hillary as the winner it will just make Barry look more foolish…

  69. actually with a 7 vote difference, that would trigger an automatic recount would it not.

  70. yeah, they wanna hold Hill to at LEAST 10 points and he “may win by 7 and I hope Hillary challenges this..just for the hell of it.

    7 votes in what he touted would be a blowout is not a win..

    He’s in freefall ;; we just need someone like Fox to put up something like he was supposed to win BIG .. and Hill didn’t even have an office there.

    YES, HILLARY NEEDS TO SEND A VIDEO TAPED MESSAGE TO GUAM

  71. confloyd

    horse owners know how to read body language and we can not be fooled easily 😀
    Horse owners have empty pockets but we have HUGE hearts and HUGE Manure piles…….
    Horse owners know sh!t when we see and smell it! 😀
    We Know what a road apple is!! LOL

  72. Obama 50.775% to Hillary’s 49.9225% Hilarious.

    So statistically, in voting its rounded up and down and its 50/50

  73. Dot48 and Djia, I have had mostly all quarter horses, I showed them, but mostly in my younger days I ran barrels and roped, remember I from Texas. Now I just like looking at them. I don’t ride anymore, can’t afford to get hurt since I am Head of my Household!

  74. This is cute, Miss Indiana, a 21 year old Ball State student(so much for BO’s lock on the youth vote), endorsed Hill tonight.

  75. confloyd

    I don’t get the chance to ride much either
    here’s what i have

    1. tri color tobianno,mixed with QH 15.2 hh
    2. mostly solid blk 16.5 hh, mixed with thorough bred
    3. tri color tobianno, 1/2 arab 14.5 hh

    even as lawn ornaments i love watching them , especially when getting my kisses and hugs from them

  76. the Guam results are telling. I have a feeling this is what NC night is going to feel like.

    If we can win in NC, Ace Smith’s name will be cemented in political strategy history and Hillary will be the nominee for sure.

  77. basil9 —

    It appears so. The whole situation is just so horrible, and I am sure the MSM is going to talk about it. I am dreading it.

  78. Isn’t a tie a huge win for Hillary in Guam?

    Wasn’t BO supposed to win there by a landslide?

  79. Yes, plural, but my gut tells me we won it. They apparently tossed a bunch of ballots in that big village.

  80. djia, yeah that’s right they are lovable and so beautiful! I love Paints! I am going to breed my Arab mare to a tennesee walker/black/white paint! I am going to give the baby to my daughter that just got a divorce. She wants to trail ride again and I am going to drive a little wagon pulled by miniature donkeys. I have them too. I am just a animal lover. I have two american bulldogs that think they are human. I can’t go to sleep without them in my bed with me! LOL!

  81. Obama had predicted he would get 3 delegates from Guam with HRC getting 1.

    guess again BamBam

  82. LMAO.
    The Obama campaign has the headline “Obama WON GUAM!” on their blog.

    stooooooooooooooooooooopid. they’re really grasping for straws here.

  83. I can’t believe the Yahoo headline “Obama beats Clinton in tight race”. It’s a draw.

  84. My radio had BREAKING NEWS Obama won Guam, they kept saying Obama Obama Obama like an incantation. I thought he’d gotten a landslide as he was predicting.

  85. tabby,

    I’m not turning tv on tonight. 😥
    confloyd, you have mini donkeys? They must be adorable.

    Not for nothing, and I’m sure guam is a wonderful place, but isn’t there something bizarro about HRC winning by 200,000+ votes in PA, 350,000+ votes in Fl and who knows by how many in MI and yet Waffles and company have BAMBOOZLED the country into thinking these 1,000+ vote cauci are somehow equivalent to primary votes?
    I’m gonna light a candle for the reappearance of the lost ballots. :evil:vote

  86. Officials say recount is imminent
    Pacific News Center Staff Reporter 04.MAY.08
    9:30 a.m. Guam – Herbie Perez, Democrat Party Nominating Committee Chairperson, says officials will look over the large amount of “spoiled” ballots in the coming days. At issue is small margin of victory for Senator Barack Obama. He beat his rival Senator Hillary Clinton by 7 votes, but well over 500 ballots were deemed invalid during the tabulation process. Perez says she will not certify the results because the Committee needs to ensure all were properly identified as “spoiled.” She says officials from the Party and representatives from both candidates will meet probably Monday or Tuesday to address that issue.

    She is also looking into missing ballots. In total, over 8,100 were printed in response to reports of shortages at precinct sites. But when the final vote count was given, only a little over 4.500 ballots were used.

  87. got another sd today…

    Maryland Automatic Delegate Backs Hillary
    Kennedy Townsend named MD Automatic Delegate Today
    The Clinton Campaign today announced the support of Maryland automatic delegate and former Lt. Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, after the Maryland State Democratic Committee elected her one if its automatic delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

    KKT had been an HRC supporter but hadn’t been an SD until today.

  88. well…..results aren’t final until certified. so Bo should take that announcement off his site.

  89. Look at the right side of the Boston Herald page. There’s video of the Chappaquiddick Kid giving the quotes about Bambi.

    It certainly looks like Teddy might have lost his Saint Obama mojo. But, ya never know. He could just be sauced.

  90. Ted Kennedy, what an asshole “politics of division, politics of fear and politics of special interests.” Is he trying to say these are Hill’s politics?

  91. anyone else been calling nc today. mine went great. good vibes. ould the miracle happen?

  92. confloyd……..we must be alot alike do even get me started on what all we have 😀

    I love mini donks!! have always wanted one or two i am a firm believer in having things in pairs 😀

    but i will say this, I have pygmy goats…..love em!!

  93. HillaryforTexas Says:
    May 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Guam results are GOOD for Hillary. Obama was supposed to BLOW IT OUT there. He had ads, he had paid staff, and he only wins by 7 votes?
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Obama’s paid staff has worked very hard stealing votes in caucuses in all sorts of cold nasty weather like Maine, so they deserved a paid holiday in lovely Guam. Glad to see they know what to do with all those donations.

  94. I posted , Obama not won yet – Officials will not certify due to anomalies and missing ballots over on DU.

    Expecting them to go in wingnut mode, any second.

    5 4 3 2 1 there we go……………..

  95. just watched O’Reilly semi-defending Hillary against the “vast left wing conspiracy” on Fox and arguing (in her favor) her credibility with this right wing radio dude.

    my, how the winds have changed. 😀 the consensus on the show was basically that places like move-on, and the left wing in general are doing Hillary in and she is fighting them. lol 😀

  96. Fox is going to keep running the O’Reilly interview all weekend, goods news for Hillary the more NC voters who see it the better for her. Plus as Michelle would say “It ain’t costing Hillary nothing for all this advertising she is getting on Fox”

  97. Yep as i thought, they went nuts “obama’s won guam, so there”

    Then i pointed out, but when its less than 1% difference, its normal for a recount, its procedural and neither side can claim anything yet. Just like they did in New mexico and Missouri.

  98. Just a reference, I checked the previous contests with similar demographics and voting pattern, Obama trounced Obama by some huge margins.

    Hawaii:
    Obama 76%
    Clinton 24%

    Virgin Islands
    Obama 90%
    Clinton 7%

    Democrats Abroad
    Obama 65%
    Clinton 35%

    Has Pastor Wright’s message traveled to Guam Islands? Hard to believe, lol.

  99. and then that radio guy said that “breaking news, rev wright endorsed Senator Clinton!” and I was kinda O_O but I think its a joke………right? lol

  100. Funny how this island caucus involved actually voting in a booth, Kostner, notice the difference.

  101. Not gonna lie; I wanted Guam, bad. 7 votes? Must’ve been all kins of shenanighans going on. The only thing worse than losing is getting edged-out. Don’t like the euphemism.

    This is a diary posted on another website, thought you may find it of interest;

    As I was poking around some of Indiana’s newspapers to get a sense of election coverage, it gradually dawned on me that I was seeing Obama’s smiling face a lot. In ads.

    Obama ads, focused on getting out the vote, pop up in the South Bend Tribune, Post-Tribune (Gary), Indianapolis Star, The Pilot News(Plymouth), Journal Courier (Lafayette), Courier & Press (Evansville),NWI Times(Northwest Indiana), Star Press (East Central Indiana), and doubtless many other papers. Hillary has none — though she is favored with a ubiquitious AP video of her post-Pennsylvania “game-changer” speech, which turns up on many home pages.

    the ads start with the sun rising in the Obama logo and move quickly to a headshot paired with a “find your polling place application”– another tool in Obama’s across-the-board focus on getting out the vote. Also included: poll hours, i.d. requirements, and eligibility.

    I’d be interested to see the click-through totals for “find your polling place.” And I wonder whether engaging people in this manner favorably disposes any undecided voters.

    An outfit called Web Guild, tallying February spending by the two campaigns, posts this comparison of online ad spending in other venues by the two campaigns:

    Spending Category Barack Obama Hillary Clinton
    Google $1,000,000 $67,000
    Yahoo Web Ads $99,341 $9,186
    Yahoo Search Ads $58,000 $0
    Facebook $4,900 $0
    Web Consultants $93,162 $0
    Ad Consultant n/a $997,000
    Media Consultant n/a $2,540,000

  102. Ok, this pisses me off;

    “Only in Washington can you get away with calling someone out of touch when you’re the one who thinks that 30 cents a day is enough to help people who are struggling in this economy,” Obama said in a speech at a school in Indianapolis.

    He cited a published report in which an unidentified Clinton aide was quoted as saying the proposal wouldn’t have much of an impact on gasoline prices, but was a good political position to take.

    “This is what passes for leadership in Washington — phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems,” he said

  103. yup, he agains disses 30 cents as not being important to someone who does not have 30 cents to spare.

    He’s an elitist fuckwit.

  104. Ann,
    You mean like the coal companies with zillion dollar ad accounts with CNN, on which you never hear a bad word about coal?

    Think you’re exactly right.

  105. Yes, he was advertising heavy on the guam blogs. I think we will win after the recount. It’s seven votes.

  106. I missed this somehow this morning; worth a read, from David Broder in WaPo, usually phony as a $3 bill ;

    How then does Hillary Clinton hope to win? Her fate rests entirely on the last uncommitted superdelegates, the roughly 75 members of Congress and 150 party officials who have not picked sides.

    All of them have been wooed intensively by both Clinton and Obama. If the race goes on another week, I will report more about the case Obama supporters are making to the superdelegates. But for now, let me describe Clinton’s imagined course to the nomination.

    To have a chance, the Clinton folks figure, she must win Indiana on Tuesday and do well enough to keep Obama’s lead by the end of the primaries closer to 100 delegates than to 200. She must also find a way to get some votes counted from Michigan and Florida, whose delegations are barred from the convention for violating the party’s primary timetable.

    Then the superdelegates would have their moment. The first thing my Clinton friend noted about them is that, over the past two months, their conversations have shifted from a fascination with the rush of young people onto the voting rolls, benefiting Obama, to a focus on older voters and Catholics, who have broken heavily for Clinton in Pennsylvania, Ohio and other states vital to Democratic chances of assembling an electoral college majority.

    Second, he said, the Jeremiah Wright affair and other recent incidents have reminded the uncommitted how little they really know about Obama — including his ability to deal with political crises, real or manufactured. Clinton has plenty of scars from past battles that weaken her, compared with Obama, but the uncommitted have seen her demonstrate repeatedly that she has the will to survive and fight back.

    Those two factors have begun to change some superdelegates’ minds about the candidate they want to see nominated. But, as my friend acknowledged, they have not yet overcome the deep discomfort many of them feel as they contemplate taking the nomination away from Obama. They know that would break the hearts of his African American supporters, who have been the most loyal of Democratic constituencies.

    Speaking from a lifetime of experience, my friend said that under other circumstances, African Americans would show their love for Hillary Clinton (if not so much now for her husband). But at the moment, they see her only as a threat to knock out their favorite.

    If the superdelegates should decide to take the risk and cast their lot with Clinton, how would she be able to heal the wounds of a fight to the finish with Obama?

    The Clinton camp’s answer comes in two parts. First, they say that the institutional party — the unions, the environmental groups, the abortion rights groups and others that are desperate for victory after losing twice to George Bush and that recognize the potential appeal of John McCain — would exert heavy pressure on the losing side not to sulk or erupt.

    And second, the Clinton camp hopes that, if he is counted out, Obama, just 46, would think about his long-term future and secure his own status as heir apparent by reconciling his followers to a bitter but temporary defeat and by throwing all his energies behind Clinton.

    In effect, my friend was saying that it may well be beyond Clinton’s power to win the nomination without severely damaging the party. Only Obama can make her winning seem right.

  107. In effect, my friend was saying that it may well be beyond Clinton’s power to win the nomination without severely damaging the party. Only Obama can make her winning seem right.

    Give me a break!

  108. Is this true: “Barack won the Guam primary by the thinnest margin – 7 votes. Still, a win is a win. The delegates were split as 3 for Barack, 1 for Hillary.” this is from an obamabot.

  109. it’s 2 to 2.

    Tell that obamabot that what is going to be embarrassing is Obama’s margin of victory (if any at all) from North Carolina. the last Black-Power state for him.

  110. dija and mjs: I know, but isn’t it funny, that the delegates are already awarded, while a recount is going to occur. What robots.

  111. birdgal
    Tell them they need to recheck results of the 8 delagates (1/2 vote each) Hillary won 4 and Obama won 4 so in terms of Denver it is 2-2

  112. rjk: I don’t even care to bring it up. He/She has drank so much kool-aid, it is hopeless.

  113. You guys really crack me up! Be so cool if it turns out tobe a win for Hillary aftr the recount. I’m sure Hillary did not even expect this. Don’t forget NC and IN. It is definately time for a new thread.

  114. this is weird. How come out of the callers calling NC and Indiana, it seems that more people are getting Hillary positives from NC than Indiana?

    Like, people have more for BO people in IN than in NC?

    weird……….

  115. Some of the phraseology here is priceless;

    North Carolina. the last Black-Power state…
    Site-seeing in the Bermuda Triangle….
    Someone else wanted to take Chris Matthews on a tour of the Meadowlands….

    Hill is 44. That one’s not bad either 🙂

  116. Like, people have more for BO people in IN than in NC?

    Sometimes the harder states to win like NC get all the attention. Maybe we should be concentrating as much on Indiana too.

  117. dedfg, I’m just uncomfortable because my friend, an Obama volunteer, has been gloating about his canvassing results in the northeastern parts of Indiana where he says the support is massive.

  118. Maybe tomorrow some other people who are making calls for Hillary can tell us what they have found after talking to people. Your friend might be exaggerating a bit….

  119. that’s what I’m hoping. I’m going to make calls tomorrow too.

    idk, maybe it’s strategy too? Like, shore up the strong-Obama sections with phone calls in Indiana and reverse that in North Carolina by getting out the vote in heavily Hillary areas? idk.

  120. Diaried @ Another Site (where Kooks reign supreme)

    Early voting in North Carolina is through the roof.
    As of close of business Friday, there had been 326,341 Democratic ballots cast (275,329 Democrats + 51,012 Unaffiliated), 72,280 GOP ballots (63,863 Republicans + 8417 unaffiliated) and 912 unaffiliated voters just voted the nonpartisan judicial ballot. Besides the presidential primaries, both parties have hot gubernatorial and local races and the Ds have a US Senate primary.

    Early voting ended Saturday afternoon, but it is likely to be Monday before the final totals are in, but the totals are astounding. The highest number of votes ever cast in an NC presidential primary was 960,857 in 1984.

    Based on the state maintained early voter database, of the Democratic ballots, 39.3% were cast by Black voters and 57.3% by whites. The remainder were American Indian, Asian, and other race categories. The cumulative black turnout rose by 0.5% yesterday, meaning the one day rise was far sharper. See my diary at http://www.dailykos.com/… for methodology and earlier numbers. Voter records include race because of the Voting Rights Act, enabling detailed analysis

    37.7% of registered Democrats are black according to North Carolina State Board of Elections statistics, while of registered Democrats casting early votes so far, 43.2% are Black. Just 11.0% of unaffiliated voters are Black, but 18.1% of the unaffiliated voters casting early voting ballots are Black.

    UPDATE
    In addition to the through Friday totals reported in this diary, Mecklenburg County (Charlotte) has reported Saturday’s total (final day) –6,267. (not broken down by party or race on their website) The Saturday total was for the three hours the polls were open. Friday had 9,453 for 8 hours, so this finished strong.
    UPDATE: Durham County total Saturday was 2,434 — for a total of over 20,000 early votes. Durham is the 2nd most liberal county in the state, with a majority of the registered Democrats Black, and many of the rest affiliated with Duke University. Notice from the stats that over 1,000 new voters registered at early voting sites just in Durham County (with no numbers yet for the last two days) under North Carolina’s new law this year allowing late registration at early voting sites — the voters cast their ballots at the same time.

  121. MJS, I know people who called Indiana today for Hill and got strong response. depends who you are calling.

  122. mjs: I think the bo supporters are extremely desperate this weekend and of course will be until Tuesday night. Expect all kinds of articles, bloggers and pundits to make it look good for him…..don’t believe them!

    Hillary is doing much better than the pundits ever expected. Thanks for doing such a great job making calls. Think of your friend gloating as a huge motivator for Hillary!

    You are right too in that it could be strategy. (p.s. not sure what idk means.)

  123. well I posted a diary about early NC voting which is at a record pace, supposedly. I missed taking out one link so it’ll be a while before it appears here, hopefully before the convention
    (sorry Admin, you do a tremendous job & it’s much appreciated but I’ll never forgive the campaign for not having a fully functional site for us).

  124. ok that’s good to hear mj.

    anyone think Hillary’s campaign should rent a few giant blimpies with video screens and have Hillary give her townhall from the blimpies across the states? :p lol that’d be cool 😀 and then have confetti fall from it in the form of “reasons to vote for Hillary” tabs or something? 😀

  125. dedfg, they probably are desperate.

    btw, do you or anyone know whether Hillary is taking youth interns or volunteers for the campaign? I’m free for the summer and considering I think hillary will be our nominee, I want to start campaigning for her right away.

    I know the Obama people already had registration for summer interns.

  126. I think bo would hate to lose the NC vote though. It would show he can’t even get the votes the DNC expect him to get.

  127. As much as I love politics, I despise the slime that coalesce around it;

    Check this bunch of bull from Bill Moyers, who (again) screamed his lungs out these past 7 years about the crumbling state of journalism, only to pitch batting practice to Reverend Wright in what was one of the biggest interviews of the year, one which had the potential to be the most revealing and explosive. Moyers ellicited neither from the Rev.

    “Wright’s offensive opinions and inflammatory appearances are judged differently (than John Hagee, Pat Robertson and Billy Graham). He doesn’t fire a shot in anger, put a noose around anyone’s neck, call for insurrection, or plant a bomb in a church with children in Sunday school. What he does is to speak his mind in a language and style that unsettle some people, and says some things so outlandish and ill-advised that he finally leaves Obama no choice but to end their friendship. We are often exposed us to the corroding acid of the politics of personal destruction, but I’ve never seen anything like this–this wrenching break between pastor and parishioner–before our very eyes. Both men no doubt will carry the grief to their graves. All the rest of us should hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America, where the gluttony of the non-stop media grinder consumes us all and prevents an honest conversation on race. It is the price we are paying for failing to heed the great historian Jacob Burckhardt, who said “beware the terrible simplifiers”.

  128. Statement from Hillary Clinton after loss to Barack Obama in Guam caucuses…May 3, 2008…

    Today, the people of Guam made their voices heard and turned out in historic numbers to help pick our next President. I am grateful to the many people of Guam who voted for me and worked so hard to make today a success. I want to congratulate Senator Obama for running a vigorous campaign in Guam and look forward to our next contests in Indiana and North Carolina.

    While our campaign was dramatically outspent, we had an impressive grassroots-oriented effort. With the help of dedicated volunteers, thousands of people became energized by the idea of a brighter future for all Guamanians. Today’s results further demonstrate that voters from Philadelphia to Dededo want a leader who will take swift action to get our nation back on track. I will be that President.

    After seven years of the Bush administration, Guamanians need someone who will stand up and fight for them. I will be that President and have outlined my solutions to improve the lives of families in Guam. Just this past week, I sought justice on behalf of Filipino veterans, who may finally have access to the benefits that have been unfairly withheld from them for over six decades.

    I have also been a strong proponent of the Guam World War II Loyalty Recognition Act, which recognizes the sacrifices of the people of Guam who demonstrated steadfast loyalty to our country despite extraordinary hardships and suffering during the Japanese occupation of Guam. And I have a plan to ensure quality, affordable health care to every single resident of Guam and other territories.

    As our campaign moves forward after this day, I will continue to champion the issues facing the people of Guam and when I’m President I will ensure that hard-working families of Guam have the resources and the opportunity to succeed.

  129. here are your talking points this weekend!

    Just like PA was for Hill where she needed a double digit win to be considered a win

    For BO: anything less than 10% win in NC I think would mean a severe loss for him given it is so his demographics as PA was for hill.

  130. LOL……love her statement

    “congratulate Senator Obama for running a vigorous campaign in Guam”

    note she made no mention to who won but pointed out how hard he worked for the votes 😀

  131. btw, do you or anyone know whether Hillary is taking youth interns or volunteers for the campaign? I’m free for the summer and considering I think hillary will be our nominee, I want to start campaigning for her right away.

    I imagine they are. I don’t know myself but I am sure if you email the campaign they can tell you.

  132. “anyone think Hillary’s campaign should rent a few giant blimpies with video screens and have Hillary give her townhall from the blimpies across the states?”

    Umm…. No. Sorry. I did think she should do a ‘debate’ with the empty BO podium sitting there and instead take questions from the audience.
    But that might not be such a hot idea either.

    I really wanted to see her beat the shit out of BO in NC much more, especially on readiness for CinC.

  133. Hillary’s theme song should be Faith of the Heart

    It’s been a long road
    Getting from there to here
    It’s been a long time
    But my time is finally near

    And I can feel the change in the wind right now
    Nothing’s in my way
    And they’re not gonna hold me down no more
    No they’re not gonna hold me down

    ‘Cause I’ve got faith of the heart
    I’m going where my heart will take me
    I’ve got faith to believe
    I can do anything
    I’ve got strength of the soul
    And no one’s gonna bend or break me
    I can reach any star
    I’ve got faith, I’ve got faith, faith of the heart

    It’s been a long night
    Trying to find my way
    Been through the darkness
    Now I’ve finally have my day

    And I will see my dream come alive at last
    I will touch the sky
    And they’re not gonna hold me down no more
    No they’re not gonna change my mind

    ‘Cause I’ve got faith of the heart
    I’m going where my heart will take me
    I’ve got faith to believe
    I can do anything
    I’ve got strength of the soul
    And no one’s gonna bend or break me
    I can reach any star
    I’ve got faith, faith of the heart

    I’ve known the wind so cold, and seen the darkest days.
    But now the winds I feel, are only winds of change.
    I’ve been through the fire and I’ve been through the rain.
    But I’ll be fine.

    Cause I’ve got faith of the heart
    I’m going where my heart will take me
    I’ve got faith to believe
    I can do anything
    I’ve got strength of the soul
    And no one’s gonna bend or break me
    I can reach any star
    I’ve got faith

    I’ve got faith of the heart.
    I’m going where my heart will take me.
    I’ve got strength of the soul. And no one’s gonna bend or break me.
    I can reach any star. I’ve got faith, I’ve got faith, faith of the heart.

    It’s been a long road.

  134. Over at NoQuarter they have unearthed promotional photo from Bill Ayers 2001 book tour that shows him stomping on a US flag. They are also highlighting his foundation connection to Ayers. Perhaps this will be the next big flare-up for Obama? I can’t imagine right wing radio or Fox News not highlighting this…

  135. “Barack Obama may have been eight years old when William “Billy” Ayers was planting bombs at the State Department and the U.S. Capitol, but the Senator was a grown man working in the employ of Mr. Ayers when this picture appeared in August 2001.”

    Let’s see if Macy’s float Tim Russert throws this one up on the screen Sunday for BO to comment on.

    “uugh, you know… look. To reduce Bill Ayers to a single photo is silly.”

  136. blueD
    that’s a beauty, HRC debating with an empty podium next to her. BO, the ultimate pansy.

  137. from greta’s website:

    “Last night ON THE RECORD at 10pm, we had a guest whose home was bombed in 1970. He believes – as you will see if you watch the video – that the Weather Underground was responsible for the bombing of his home in the middle of the night (3 bombs exploded.) At the time our guest’s father was a judge presiding over another radical group’s trial. I am not so sure who is to blame for the bombing at his home but the guest set forth the facts that convinced him. Watch the video and you can decide for yourself.

    The guest – like others – believes that Senator Obama should answer questions about his relationship with William Ayers. As I noted above, answering questions might put an end to the controversy.

    Watch the two videos below and YOU DECIDE YOURSELF – should Senator Obama speak more in depth about his relationship with Weather Underground William Ayers or has Senator Obama said enough or is this topic irrelevant to you?”

  138. Amazing (little to) none of this has seen the light of day;

    From NoQuarter

    Ayers, from his book: “guilty as hell, free as a bird, it’s a great country.”

    And then a month later told a New York Times reporter his only regret was that he did not plant more bombs.
    So what does this have to do with Barack Obama?
    Plenty! Barack was the Director of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Foundation. Bill Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist with wealthy family connections, had co-founded the Chicago Foundation and named Obama as the Director of said entity. So by 2001 Barack and Ayers had worked closely together on an effort to reform Chicago public schools. I am all in favor of school reform. But if you are involved with politics you ought to understand that if you hang with, work with, and politic with a guy who is an unrepentant terrorist that it might reflect badly on you. In fact, you should put some distance between yourself and said terrorist.

    Barack did not. What is curious is that Barack despite facing criticism about his lack of experience, is closed mouthed when it comes to discussing his stint running a $50 million dollar foundation. What is he hiding? That is a question that will be answered before the November presidential election. The only doubt is whether the Democrats will insist on finding out the truth first or will let the Republicans serve them a steaming pile of crap come the fall. And while the image of Bill Ayers gleefully stomping the American flag makes the rounds, Obama’s vain attempt to portray himself as a new kind of non-politician will be stomped into oblivion.

  139. rjk: If you think they are desperate now, just wait until Wednesday morning when they will be suicidal.

    You are so right, because Hillary just keeps improving everyday.

  140. greta is just the begining of this BO was employed by Ayers

    as well as MO and B Dorne were CO WORKERS!!!!

    they are bringing the story about just as they did with Wright 😀

  141. Seems like since last weekend Fox has really declared war on Obama. They have been hard on him in the past, but this week they are coming at him from all directions 24/7. They smell blood and really want to damage him going into Tuesday.

    Bravo, keep up the good work.

  142. Didn’t know about this, but you can vote for stories on Real Clear Politics, and Larry Johnson’s new Ayers story w/photo is on the list, currently trailing with 8 votes.

    Many heavy hitters, especially media types, visit RCP.

  143. Did Ayers’ 2001 flag-stomping occur before or after September 11th? Either way, the man is a disgrace to this country but if he did it after 9/11 I think it will piss people off quite a bit more.

  144. “the Senator was a grown man working in the employ of Mr. Ayers when this picture appeared in August 2001.”

    Hill should mention this tomorrow night in her ABC town hall, then proceed to knock the hell out of BO on being nowhere near ready to command the U.S. military.

    To quote President Jed Bartlett, “Screw it! It’s gametime! Let’s go!”

  145. OK, so it was August and not September.

    I saw a documentary about the Weather Underground last summer. I don’t remember the name of it. I just saw it at my local library and checked it out, not knowing that less than a year later these people would factor into this presidential race. They were (and are) the most unlikable characters– a bunch of smug, spoiled brats who show no remorse for what they did. At least Jeremiah Wright is not a criminal, and he can be funny sometimes. But Ayers and Dohrn have no redeeming qualities that I can see.

  146. Geraldo just said that the Rebublican in LA won his election? Is he one who was running the anti-Obama ads against his opponent?

  147. Bill Clinton going to church with superdelegate Shuler
    Posted: 09:36 PM ET
    WASHINGTON (CNN) –- Former President Bill Clinton will attend Sunday church services with North Carolina Congressman and uncommitted Democratic superdelegate Heath Shuler in his district, CNN has learned.

    Shuler, a freshman congressman, is expected to announce Monday that he will pledge his support to whichever Democratic candidate wins his district in Tuesday’s primary.

    The former NFL quarterback represents North Carolina’s 11th congressional district, which encompasses Asheville and the rural areas west to the border with Tennessee.

    Given the demographics of Shuler’s district, Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) is predicted to win there on Tuesday. Shuler was heavily courted by President Clinton over the last several weeks. He also attended a meet and greet session at the Clintons’ Washington home earlier this spring.

    Good news, Hillary should win this district

  148. Clinton saw it differently. Obama is “attacking my plan to try to get you some kind of break this summer,” she said at one point.

    A spokesman, Phil Singer, “Considering that Sen. Obama voted to suspend the gas tax three times when gas cost less than $2 a gallon and has an energy lobbyist chairing his Indiana campaign, it’s hard to take his latest criticisms very seriously.”

  149. Any good news? Some of the blogs are already spinning the special election as wirght ad’s flop despite, someone on Hill’s blog said she read BO had “regained” his lead in NC(I didn’t know he lost it), and someone at riverdaughters blog in NC is anticipating a 6-7 point win for BO in NC…so any good news?

  150. HILLARY ON LETTERMAN MONDAY!

    Hillary will be appearing on “The Late Show with David Letterman” on
    Monday, May 5 to deliver the Top 10 list. Tune in to your local CBS affiliate at 11:30 p.m. ET/10:30 p.m. CT.

  151. I am wondering what information will come out if Rezko does make a deal with Fitzgerald. Even if he has dirt on Obama he might not say anything to protect him..however, any information he provided to the government would become new avenues for investigation and that could be a real problem for Obama if he is even the slightest bit connected with the shady things that were going on in the state government. It seems to me there is a lot of smoke there given his closeness to Rezko and the dealings that have already come to light. Plus, just the publicity of Rezko and the completion of the trial is another reminder to people that Obama has some very questionable friends.

    Also, isn’t Rezko going to be facing other trials/charges? This story may just be starting….

  152. “This story may just be starting….”

    Oh, I don’t doubt that for a minute. The judge was one of Ken Starr’s deputies if I remember correctly, there’s been mention of byzantine involvement of by Rove, and God knows what else.
    That the Governor, Blagojevich, is a democrat makes me wonder if this whole trial isn’t part of the politicization of the DOJ, though I haven’t seen ANYTHING mentioning it or ruling it out.

    Either way, just the actual facts surrounding BO’s home ‘purchase’ are a total scandal unto themselves, making this the the Big Kahuna as far as dirt on BO goes, which is why there’s been virtually zero said about it by MSM.
    They’re waiting until it best serves their masters….

  153. Boy, it’s hot & heavy campaign talk @ Oprah’s, never been there.
    Found this, which is both hysterical (and should be at least somewhat concerning).

    “3 out of last 7 governors have gone to jail.”

    Haven’t verified it, but that would mean if Blagojevich gets nailed,
    they’d be batting .500! Christ!

    Another sign the apocalypse is upon us.

  154. Who would have thought that Oprah would have anti-Obama threads. LOL!

    Chicago sounds like one dirty place, and people believe that Waffles is a new type of politician? There is probably more dirt on him, that we don’t even know about. The house is a scandal in itself. What else is there?

  155. This is a long synopsis I found at something called MyMainetoday.
    Don’t know if the whole thing or any of it will appear, but here goes.
    Certainly some of this has appeared before, especially when Admin has gotten into it. Worth a read…..

    Portland — Obama is a liar or an idiot, you choose. On the same day the Reverend Wright debacle was coming to a head, Barack Obama tried to slip one by and admitted taking more money from Tony Rezko then he had previously reported;

    “ Rezko helped raise up to $250,000 for his (Obama’s) various political races, Obama’s campaign said. The campaign had previously put the figure at $150,000….
    ….And in interviews with two Chicago newspapers, the Democrat (Obama) again said it was a mistake to involve Rezko in his purchase of a new home _ not just because Rezko was under federal investigation but because he was a contributor and political activist.”- huffingtonpost.com

    This happens to me all the time. I am sitting there and all of a sudden I notice an extra $100,000.00 lying around and then I wonder where it came from. And I am forever forgetting to not take money from people who are being investigated by the federal government.

    So, Obama now admits to taking at least a quarter of a million dollars from Tony Rezko and he admits to being “involved” with Rezko in the purchase of his home. But how involved? Well, it seems Obama had been a representative of Tony Rezko in a number of real estate dealings and was rewarded;

    “Much of the criticism has centered on two real estate deals involving Obama’s South Side mansion. In the first, Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price for a doctor’s home, while Rezko’s wife paid the doctor full price for the vacant lot next door. Then — a few months before Rezko was indicted — Obama bought part of that lot from Rezko’s wife.”- suntimes.com

    Tony Rezko wanted to reward Obama and it might help to have a senator in his back pocket. You see, Barack Obama had already proven his worth;

    “But Obama’s ties with Rezko go beyond those two real estate sales and the political support, the Sun-Times found. Obama was an attorney with a small Chicago law firm — Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland — that helped Rezmar (a company owned by Rezko) get more than $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 of their 30 apartment buildings for the poor.”- suntimes.com

    If this is any indication of how Obama plans on helping poor people, read on;

    “Rezko and Mahru (the other owner of Rezmar) also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

    Seventeen buildings — many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat — ended up in foreclosure.

    Six buildings are currently boarded up.

    Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

    Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

    At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.”- suntimes.com

    When the Rezko story first came out, Obama made it seem like he and Tony were casual acquaintances and the mainstream press gave him a pass. But a couple clicks of the mouse and the just how close Obama and Rezko were is apparent;

    “Over the years, Rezko, Mahru, their wives and businesses have given more than $50,000 to Obama’s campaign funds, records show. And Rezko has helped raise millions more.

    Rezko was among the people Obama appointed to serve on his U.S. Senate campaign finance committee, the Sun-Times reported in 2003. The committee raised more than $14 million, according to Federal Election Commission records, helping send Obama to Washington in 2004”- suntimes.com.

    But why is Tony Rezko being investigated in the first place;

    “Rezko has been indicted for allegedly demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business under (Illinois Governor) Blagojevich. Rezko’s trial has been postponed while investigators sort through his finances.”- suntimes.com

    We are suppose to believe Obama got no price break on his mansion, even though he paid $300,000.00 less than the asking price to the doctor that owned it. And it just so happened that Tony Rezko’s wife wanted a vacant lot at the same time and the good doctor had one of those for sale too, right next door to the mansion Obama wanted. And even though Obama was able to finagle a deal and save 300K, Rezko’s wife didn’t even try to save a penny on the asking price…… for a vacant lot. This is how Obama explained it;

    “Obama said he got no price break on his new house because Rezko was buying the lot next door from the same sellers. And he said it was Rezko’s idea, not his, to buy the lot.

    “He said, ‘Well, I might be interested in purchasing the lot.’ And my response was, ‘That would be fine,'” Obama said. “This is an area where I can see sort of a lapse in judgment, where I could have said ‘No, I’m not sure that’s a good idea’”- huffingtonpost.com

    When it became apparent that he was going to have to answer to some of the connections with Rezko, Obama’s campaign said;

    “Rezko was connected to about $150,000, all of which was later donated to charity.”- huffingtonreport.com

    ….and one more thing.

    Here is a link to a very interesting story connecting Obama to an Iraqi oil billionaire;

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/obamas_iraqi_oil_for_food_conn.html

    The gist of the story is this. Tony Rezko who is a dual citizen of both Syria and the USA, has close ties to a man named Nadhmi Auchi. According to americanthinker.com, Auchi gave a 3.5 million dollar loan to Rezko and here is what unfolded;

    “The Times of London reports:

    “A company related to Mr. Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr. Obama’s bagman Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko on May, 23 2005. Mr. Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

    “Three weeks later, Mr. Obama bought a house on the city’s South Side while Mr Rezko’s wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15. Mr. Obama says he never used Mrs. Rezko’s still-empty lot, which could only be accessed through his property. But he admits he paid his gardener to mow the lawn.”- americanthinker.com

    The loan was later “forgiven” in exchange for shares in a prime slice of Chicago real estate.

    You may have heard of Auchi before, but if you can’t immediately recall, let me refresh your memory;

    “Auchi’s General Mediterranean Holdings company was also the largest private shareholder in Banque Nationale de Paris which later merged with Paribas to become BNP Paribas. At Saddam’s insistence, (that’s right, Saddam Hussein, the now deceased Iraqi dictator) billions of dollars of Oil for Food transactions passed through BNP from its 1995 inception until 2001.”- americanthinker.com
    Amercanthinker.com also reported that the Times of London has uncovered even closer tie between Auchi and Obama;
    “The Auchi-Obama links go beyond the mansion deal. The Times of London February 1 reports uncovering, “state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to (an) Obama fundraiser in May 2005. Fintrade’s directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr. Auchi’s wife.”
    So, you decide, is Barack Hussein Obama a liar or an idiot?

  156. Trying to post this in pieces, the blog can’t take it all at once;

    OBAMA TRIED TO PULL A FAST ONE

    Contributed by Sam Minervino
    myMaineToday.com 2008-03-18

    Portland — Obama is a liar or an idiot, you choose. On the same day the Reverend Wright debacle was coming to a head, Barack Obama tried to slip one by and admitted taking more money from Tony Rezko then he had previously reported;

    “ Rezko helped raise up to $250,000 for his (Obama’s) various political races, Obama’s campaign said. The campaign had previously put the figure at $150,000….

    ….And in interviews with two Chicago newspapers, the Democrat (Obama) again said it was a mistake to involve Rezko in his purchase of a new home _ not just because Rezko was under federal investigation but because he was a contributor and political activist.”- huffingtonpost.com

    This happens to me all the time. I am sitting there and all of a sudden I notice an extra $100,000.00 lying around and then I wonder where it came from. And I am forever forgetting to not take money from people who are being investigated by the federal government.

    So, Obama now admits to taking at least a quarter of a million dollars from Tony Rezko and he admits to being “involved” with Rezko in the purchase of his home. But how involved? Well, it seems Obama had been a representative of Tony Rezko in a number of real estate dealings and was rewarded;

    “Much of the criticism has centered on two real estate deals involving Obama’s South Side mansion. In the first, Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price for a doctor’s home, while Rezko’s wife paid the doctor full price for the vacant lot next door. Then — a few months before Rezko was indicted — Obama bought part of that lot from Rezko’s wife.”- suntimes.com

    Tony Rezko wanted to reward Obama and it might help to have a senator in his back pocket. You see, Barack Obama had already proven his worth;

    “But Obama’s ties with Rezko go beyond those two real estate sales and the political support, the Sun-Times found. Obama was an attorney with a small Chicago law firm — Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland — that helped Rezmar (a company owned by Rezko) get more than $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 of their 30 apartment buildings for the poor.”- suntimes.com

    If this is any indication of how Obama plans on helping poor people, read on;

    “Rezko and Mahru (the other owner of Rezmar) also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

    Seventeen buildings — many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat — ended up in foreclosure.

    Six buildings are currently boarded up.

    Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

    Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

    At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.”- suntimes.com

  157. At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.”- suntimes.com

    When the Rezko story first came out, Obama made it seem like he and Tony were casual acquaintances and the mainstream press gave him a pass. But a couple clicks of the mouse and the just how close Obama and Rezko were is apparent;

    “Over the years, Rezko, Mahru, their wives and businesses have given more than $50,000 to Obama’s campaign funds, records show. And Rezko has helped raise millions more.

    Rezko was among the people Obama appointed to serve on his U.S. Senate campaign finance committee, the Sun-Times reported in 2003. The committee raised more than $14 million, according to Federal Election Commission records, helping send Obama to Washington in 2004”- suntimes.com.

    But why is Tony Rezko being investigated in the first place;

    “Rezko has been indicted for allegedly demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business under (Illinois Governor) Blagojevich. Rezko’s trial has been postponed while investigators sort through his finances.”- suntimes.com

    We are suppose to believe Obama got no price break on his mansion, even though he paid $300,000.00 less than the asking price to the doctor that owned it. And it just so happened that Tony Rezko’s wife wanted a vacant lot at the same time and the good doctor had one of those for sale too, right next door to the mansion Obama wanted. And even though Obama was able to finagle a deal and save 300K, Rezko’s wife didn’t even try to save a penny on the asking price…… for a vacant lot. This is how Obama explained it;

    “Obama said he got no price break on his new house because Rezko was buying the lot next door from the same sellers. And he said it was Rezko’s idea, not his, to buy the lot.

    “He said, ‘Well, I might be interested in purchasing the lot.’ And my response was, ‘That would be fine,'” Obama said. “This is an area where I can see sort of a lapse in judgment, where I could have said ‘No, I’m not sure that’s a good idea’”- huffingtonpost.com

    When it became apparent that he was going to have to answer to some of the connections with Rezko, Obama’s campaign said;

    “Rezko was connected to about $150,000, all of which was later donated to charity.”- huffingtonreport.com

    ….and one more thing.

    Here is a link to a very interesting story connecting Obama to an Iraqi oil billionaire;

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/obamas_iraqi_oil_for_food_conn.html

    The gist of the story is this. Tony Rezko who is a dual citizen of both Syria and the USA, has close ties to a man named Nadhmi Auchi. According to americanthinker.com, Auchi gave a 3.5 million dollar loan to Rezko and here is what unfolded;

    “The Times of London reports:

    “A company related to Mr. Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr. Obama’s bagman Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko on May, 23 2005. Mr. Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

    “Three weeks later, Mr. Obama bought a house on the city’s South Side while Mr Rezko’s wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15. Mr. Obama says he never used Mrs. Rezko’s still-empty lot, which could only be accessed through his property. But he admits he paid his gardener to mow the lawn.”- americanthinker.com

    The loan was later “forgiven” in exchange for shares in a prime slice of Chicago real estate.

    You may have heard of Auchi before, but if you can’t immediately recall, let me refresh your memory;

    “Auchi’s General Mediterranean Holdings company was also the largest private shareholder in Banque Nationale de Paris which later merged with Paribas to become BNP Paribas. At Saddam’s insistence, (that’s right, Saddam Hussein, the now deceased Iraqi dictator) billions of dollars of Oil for Food transactions passed through BNP from its 1995 inception until 2001.”- americanthinker.com

    Amercanthinker.com also reported that the Times of London has uncovered even closer tie between Auchi and Obama;

    “The Auchi-Obama links go beyond the mansion deal. The Times of London February 1 reports uncovering, “state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to (an) Obama fundraiser in May 2005. Fintrade’s directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr. Auchi’s wife.”

    So, you decide, is Barack Hussein Obama a liar or an idiot?

  158. Later, at the North Carolina Auto Racing Hall of Fame, Mrs. Clinton stood amid life-size cutouts of Nascar stars and one real, live one: Junior Johnson, who introduced the senator. “You know, our country is in trouble,” Mrs. Clinton said. “Junior, it’s in the ditch!”

    But none of Mrs. Clinton’s comments won as loud a reaction as her indignant remark about the price of gas. “People get sick to their stomach when they fill up the gas tank,” she said to applause in Cary.

  159. Wright Controversy Affects the Polls

    A Commentary By Michael Barone

    Is the bottom falling out for Barack Obama? It’s too early to say that, but there are some disturbing signs. On the positive side, superdelegates still are breaking his way. Rep. Baron Hill, whose southern Indiana district almost certainly will vote for Hillary Clinton, came out for Obama. So did fellow Hoosier Joe Andrew, who previously endorsed Clinton and who was named Democratic national chairman by Bill Clinton in the 1990s. (James Carville may have another name for him.) Obama is still well ahead among delegates chosen in primaries and caucuses, and he is not very far behind in superdelegates, either.

    But what about the voters? Here there are some ominous signs. The latest Fox News poll, conducted after the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s appearance at the National Press Club, showed Obama’s favorable/unfavorables at 63 to 27 percent among Democrats, compared to Hillary Clinton’s 73 to 22 percent. Suddenly she’s not the only one with high negatives. And 36 percent of Democrats say they would be disinclined to vote for Obama because of his longtime relationship with his former pastor. There’s more bad news in The Pew Research Center poll of Democrats. Obama’s national lead among Democrats is down from 49 to 39 percent to a statistically insignificant 47 to 45 percent.

    These results are not outliers. The Rasmussen tracking poll showed Obama leading Clinton 49 to 41 percent before Wright spoke to the National Press Club. Afterward the numbers were 46 to 44 percent in favor of Clinton. The Gallup Poll had Obama leading Clinton 50 to 41 percent the night before the Pennsylvania primary. The results reported May 1 were Clinton 49 percent, Obama 45 percent.

    Obama’s standing as a general election candidate also seems to have taken a hit. Gallup showed him tied with John McCain 45 to 45 percent before the Wright appearance and trailing 47 to 43 percent afterward; at the same time, it shows Hillary Clinton tied with McCain 46 to 46 percent. Similarly, Rasmussen has McCain now ahead of Obama 46 to 43 percent and McCain tied with Clinton 44 to 44 percent.

    All the numbers in this deluge of numbers tell the same story. Not just liberal but also many conservative commentators said that Obama’s speech on race March 18, in response to ABC News’ broadcasting of excerpts from Wright’s sermons, had solved any problems he had with voters, or at least with Democratic voters. And it was hard to argue with that conclusion, at least as to Democrats. Obama’s loss in Pennsylvania April 22, in line with expectations, didn’t necessarily contradict that. The response to Obama’s repudiation April 29, in response to Wright’s remarks April 28, is clearly different.

    One reason is that Obama now has taken two diametrically opposed stands on the minister whose church he attended for 20 years, who married him and his wife and baptized their children, whose sermon inspired the title of his 2006 book, “The Audacity of Hope.” On March 18, his response was: No, I cannot renounce my pastor. On April 29, his response was: Yes, I can.

    Another and more important reason is that Obama’s long association with a minister who says that the federal government manufactured the AIDS virus to kill black people, who likens American soldiers to terrorists, who celebrates Louis Farrakhan as a great man — that long association tends to undermine the central theme of Obama’s candidacy. Obama has presented himself since his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech as a leader who can unite America across political and racial divides. He presented himself to American voters, most of whom, I believe, think it would be a very good thing if we elected a black president. (I personally feel that way.) “In the blue states,” Obama told the convention in Boston and the nation watching on TV, “we worship an awesome God.” Now it turns out that the God worshipped in the Rev. Wright’s church was “awesome” in ways we didn’t expect.

    The appeals of Obama and Hillary Clinton will be tested in the May 6 primaries in North Carolina and Indiana, the nation’s 10th- and 15th-most populous states. The Real Clear Politics average of recent polling shows Obama’s share of the two-candidate vote in North Carolina at 54 percent, down from 59 percent in April, and Clinton with 53 percent of the two-candidate vote in Indiana, where she trailed not long ago. A few pundits still are saying that Obama’s choice of pastor is a distraction, an irrelevancy. But some voters, perhaps in the belief that a president’s judgment and values have important consequences, don’t agree.
    COPYRIGHT 2008 CREATORS SYNDICATE INC.

    rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michael_barone/wright_controversy_affects_the_polls

  160. hi hillfans. great close race hillary made of guam yesturday. i get a kick out of obamabots touting a big win in guam. 7 votes. silly.

  161. Okay, this is how deranged these ‘progressive’ men have become, they’re happy about the horse, Eight Belles dying because she was the only female in the race and making analogies to Clinton.

  162. terrondt

    They are going to look like fools after the recount. Apparently there were over 500 votes spoiled (ballots not counted) most of them in the county Hillary won with 61% of the vote.

  163. that is great news on shuler. he is a frshman rep-a campaign i helped much. he is going to church with bill in th e morning and will back the winner fo his district-which will be hillary-this is appalachia country guys. its a big deal to me at least

  164. texas4hillary is that true about shuler? good news. hillfans as a dem i am happy about the dem pick-up on LA-6 but why do i get the feeling this guy will endorse obama? just too much of a pattern of conservative dems picking obama. i don’t get it. obama is so liberal but blue dog dems pull for him.

  165. From someone whose work I really admire;

    “”I want Barack Obama to be the next president of our country”
    – Tom Hanks

    and whose political judgement blows.

  166. Hill’s closing ad for the youngins should quote Sonny Corleone.

    “What did you go to college to get stupid?”

  167. BD, do you remmeber those ubiquitous ads with Tom Hanks for teh WWII memorial? Everytime he begged poor and old people to donate, all i could think was, if it’s so important to you, you could fund the entire thing with one paycheck. How much money do you need?

  168. I don’t remember seeing the ads Gerond, and I can’t get after Hanks for his work, as I think he’s done as much as anyone currently out there to try and tell American history, whether it’s Earth to the Moon or, most recently, John Adams, which was breathtaking.

    And I know he’s put his own money into some of those projects and might again when they do the Adams/McCullough sequel, 1776.
    He’s certainly given a lot of his time in the heart of his career to it, when he could be making formula films @ $20M a pop instead, plus he’s entitled to his opinion.

    But what is positively stunning to me is that opinion apparently has such a lack of knowledge about the recent history of the country, basically from 1980 on, and what it’s all meant to working people.

  169. then again Hanks also spent a lot of his time dressing as a girl in Bussom Buddies, so maybe I just expect too much 🙂

  170. what is the impact in nc over the booing of the guv? ive seen comments on other sites on this and its not pretty for obama. was that jj clip played on local news? this could be another factor tues.

  171. Damn, Obama must really be scared. He is going to air 2 minute ads in IN and NC. He must feel these states are his firewall and going all out to win it now..

  172. I hate to see the Democrats once again being the party of the elitist.
    Where it ruled by:
    Celebrities
    Liberal Bloggers
    Elitist Senators

    And not ruled by:
    The real American people

  173. Big-State Clout Puts Clinton Firmly In The Lead
    BETH OSBORNE DAPONTE

    May 4, 2008

    We are so accustomed to hearing about the delegate count in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination that we are not paying enough attention to the people count.

    Another way of thinking about the success that candidates have had thus far is to sum the population of the states that they have won, either through the primary system or the caucus systems. Using the U.S. Census Bureau’s midyear 2007 estimates of the population of states, and putting in a candidate’s column the population of the state — if the candidate has prevailed in the state’s primary, and if no primary, a caucus — one can determine the number of people living in states where the respective candidate is strongest.

    Doing so, one finds that Sen. Hillary Clinton leads Sen. Barack Obama. So far, 173 million people live in states where Sen. Clinton has prevailed, as opposed to the 102 million people who live in states where Sen. Obama has prevailed. With only 30 million people living in states that have yet to be determined, Sen. Obama will be unable to unable to close this gap.

    The difference can be attributed to Sen. Clinton’s disproportionate appeal to Democrats in large states. While Sen. Obama has prevailed in 27 states, Sen. Clinton’s 17 states include California, Texas, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and Michigan. In fact, if the states that have had a primary or caucus are ranked according to population size, one sees that of the 10 most populous states, Sen. Clinton has won eight and Sen. Obama only two. Considering the 10 least populous states that have voted, one sees a flip in the results — Sen. Obama has prevailed in eight and Sen. Clinton in only two.

    Another way of looking at the status of the candidates is to use 2004 election results to ask how many 2004 Electoral College votes in states that John Kerry won does each candidate have to date. In fact, if one sums the Electoral College vote of the states that went Democrat in 2004 according to whether Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama prevailed, one finds that Sen. Clinton again leads, with 159 of the 2004 Democratic Electoral College votes in her column vs. 85 in Sen. Obama’s column.

    With only seven of those Electoral College votes in states yet to hold their primary or caucus, Sen. Obama’s campaign cannot close this gap. It seems that the strongest Democratic presidential candidate would be the one who is strongest in the “must win” Democratic states. Further, the strongest Democratic candidate should be the one who will be extremely competitive in Ohio and Florida. Again, Hillary Clinton wins in these respects.

    Beth Osborne Daponte, Ph.D., is a senior research scholar at the Institution for Social and Policy Studies at Yale University.

    http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-daponte0504.artmay04,0,2115951,print.story

  174. Fox nonstop airing of reports of Wright/Ayers on Hannity and O’Reilly interviewing Hillary all weekend has to help in NC.

  175. Pundita: SMOG ALERT: Are you a dumb-ass Democrat? Then of course you’ll vote for Hillary Clinton!

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/rezkowatch-presents-pundita-smog-alert.html

    Please send far and wide. Thanks.

  176. The Tide is Turning

    Hillary Clinton clings on as ‘white flight’ begins to harm Barack Obama

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article3868083.ece

    Jerome Segovia, a superdelegate who has yet to endorse a candidate, told The Sunday Times that if Clinton could narrow the delegate gap to below 100 in the remaining eight contests, superdelegates would feel free to vote with their conscience and back her.

    Segovia, a member of the Democratic party’s powerful rules committee, which could play a key role at the convention in the event of a near-tie, is leaning towards Clinton after initially favouring the Illinois senator.

    Rachel Smith, 24, a young mother and Clinton supporter, said at a diner in Brownsburg, Indiana: “White people are giving up on Obama. Most of my family members are leaning towards Hillary. It’s because of Reverend Wright. You just can’t ignore him. He’s putting the last nail in Obama’s coffin.”

    After a barrage of negative publicity for Obama, the polls are recording a sharp swing towards Clinton. In Indiana, where Obama was once tied or briefly ahead, two recent polls show a seven to 10-point lead for her. In North Carolina, a new poll shows the extent of white flight, particularly among undecided voters. Clinton’s advantage over Obama among white voters has risen from nine to 23 points in a month.

    During the same period, Obama’s 23-point lead in North Carolina has dwindled to nine points. Although he is still favoured to win the state, it may not deliver the resounding victory in the popular vote and delegate count that he is seeking to offset potentially heavy losses in the next round of primaries in the predominantly white, rural states of West Virginia on May 13 and Kentucky on May 20.

    A Clinton adviser claimed that up to 75% of the roughly 300 undeclared superdelegates represented white working-class districts and may be susceptible to the argument that the New York senator is the more “electable” candidate to face John McCain, the Republican nominee, in November.

    Segovia said he had heard little from the Obama campaign, but had recently had an hour-long meeting with Clinton and a handful of other undeclared superdelegates. “She was impressive,” he said.

    Segovia is monitoring the popular vote tallies closely and could have a crucial say on the rules committee in determining whether the votes of Florida and Michigan primaries are counted – a decision that could give Clinton an edge.

    The states were disqualified from sending delegates to the convention because they defied party rules by holding their contests early. Clinton won both states convincingly, although Obama’s name was not even on the ballot in Michigan.

    If Clinton can narrow the delegate gap and lead the popular vote, Segovia is prepared to risk the wrath of African-American voters and support her as the nominee. Either candidate would make history. “You could say she is the first woman candidate to get as far as she has, so it doesn’t bother me.”

  177. anyone watching “meet the press’ mr potato head is interviewing BO

    TR is letting him lie his ass off

  178. Obama on Meet the Press now

    Dean on Chris Wallace (Fox)

    Hillary on George S. This week – I wonder which will do better?

  179. god she’s good!!

    we all wanted a debate with hill on her own………..well shes doing one now!!

  180. george is doing an ambush interview but she is once again .. handing it to him with a big fat hohum…

    wow, what a woman.

  181. I am glad she is reminding the AA community of how hard she and Bill have worked for them. Still thinnk she should tell more about what she had done for them in the past

  182. I think we should shun the celebrity culture. Who the hell is Tom Hanks? He is just one more vote in a democracy. If he is a mature individual, he would refrain from saying out loud his preference — because he should know in reality it should not amount to a hill of beans for others. When he picks a side that is counterintuitive, it should be even more evident that he is not in touch with everyday people.

  183. I actually think these hard questions are perfect. Shows she is willing to answer anything and it highlites her real solutions. George may look like he has a hidden agenda but I think this is all part of it.

    You won’t hear any whining from her about hard questions and she is answering without any sign or anger or frustration.

    I think she is hitting it out of the ballpark once again. I think this will go a long way toward the undecided .. she is a fighter and she is looking extremely strong here today.

  184. You know I watched some of the O’Reilly interview and Stephanopolous. OReilly asks questions that I would ask and George is playing the gotch politics. You said this and how can you have it both ways=GOTCHa. We got way more information from O’Reilly than George. I will email him, why did he not do questions we would ask instead of the questions Pumkinhead wants to know! Disgusting!

  185. Bush’s trip to Kansas reminds me:

    Today is the close to the anniversary of Obama’s 10000 people dead moment:

    Video: Obama: 10,000 dead from tornado in Kansas, give or take 9,988posted at 11:04 am on May 9, 2007 by Ian

    hotair.com/archives/2007/05/09/video-obama-10000-dead-from-tornado-in-kansas-give-or-take-9988/

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