402 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton – Still Foxy

  1. You guys, watch Hillary in Terre Haute, Indiana

    http://www.wthitv.com

    Also, writing a letter to the governor does help! I got a response from the governor of Kentucky, where Hillary is likely to win:

    Dear Mr. XXXXXXXX:

    Thank you for your message requesting my endorsement of Senator Hillary Clinton for the Democratic Party nomination for president of the United States. I have great respect and admiration for Senator Clinton and wish her the best in her race. At this time, I am not endorsing any particular candidate for president.

    Your views are important to me, and I am grateful for your willingness to be involved in the future of Kentucky and our nation. I encourage you to continue to be involved in politics and to express your opinions to elected officeholders. Please feel free to contact me whenever an issue is important to you.

    Sincerely,

    Steven L. Beshear

  2. Carry over from last thread….

    What is wrong with this picture? Intentional or no?

    Jackson calls for an Obama-Wright ‘cease-fire’

    The Rev. Jesse Jackson just now expressed his hope for a “cease-fire” between Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    “It was a painful break he had to make — a break between pastor and politician, parishioner, who have different agendas,” he said after a press conference in New York.

    “There’s so much pain in this whole process,” he said. “It may be premature to get a reconciliation — at least we can have a cease-fire and get back on the agenda items that matter to the American people.”

    Jackson was in New York’s City Hall to call for increased U.S. aid for Haiti to meet the mounting food crisis there.

  3. I would say that Jesse Jackson knows that the good Mr. Wright knows all the wrongs about obama

  4. Have you noticed how Sharpton and Jackson have been kind of kept out of this in the background. I saw a cartoon that showed Obama keeping them busy with international projects, kind of out of site.

    Now I guess he needs them to help with Rev Wright, so now they are coming forward. It will be interesting to see how this will work.

  5. In addition, don’t you think there is enough on film already? I think we already saw some stuff coming out tonight.

  6. blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/robert-kennedy.html

    Robert Kennedy, Jr says family is wrong for endorsing Obama

  7. have u guys noticed? Ever since the Wright controversy and Ayers, etc, Ted and Caroline Kennedy and Oprah have been noticeably quiet….

    drip drip drip
    tick tock tick tock. obama’s a ticking time bomb and Ted, kerry, Oprah, and numerous other dems are strapped to him and currently praying for dear life.

  8. djia, how is it going? Im watching live-stream even though not understand a word, I just adore the crowd

  9. Sorry, so quiet here. We have multiple tornadoes north of us. My Name Is Earl, Scrubs, Ugly Betty, CSI all have been preempted by assholes with fuzzy video cams and SUV’s shouting “Whoo hoo! Look at that rotation!” while a guy in a bad shirt and tie shouts over him from the studio, “Get to your tornado proof zones away from windows!”

  10. I am so sick of hearing talking heads say Bo has this wrapped up I could scream, & then puke!

    Hill better NEVER give up this fight.

  11. ugh….don’t listen. they all had mccain dead last summer too. They don’t know what they’re talking about. If she wins IN big and stays close in NC, they’ll be saying….whoa….”all bets are off” next week.

  12. i can see it in my mind guys! Hillary as Big P (prez) and John Edwards as Little P (Vice Prez) 😀

  13. okie, Evan Bayh should stay in the senate, maybe Senate Majority leader? but I know his seat is very much coveted by Repubs and the Repub gov would pounce on it.

    I think either:

    Edwards, Biden, Ford, or that Ohio Governor would be good.
    Are there any bi-partisan people like Colin Powell with his similar stature who i don’t know about? Someone like Colin Powell, prominent AA, well respected in both parties, I think, would be a great choice for VP too.

    Or Wes Clark 😀

  14. HillBilly, the closest it was (once on the ground) was 30 mins NNE of here. That’s nothing. Nine years ago Saturday, An F5+ went thru my then BF’s neighborhood. Missed her mom and sister by 6 feet. Seems their house was one of 1 of 3 without damage in their neighborhood. The other 127 were destroyed or heavily damaged. My boss at the time’s dad barely survived it in Del City.

    That reminds me. I need a new tetanus shot. I had to get one after getting injured in the clean-up.

    I will say we were lucky. Winds in NE OKC were 110 mph today and hail got as big as softballs.

  15. I think Hillary should pick someone from the south and is very likable (to help with Hillary’s so called untrustworthy/unlikable polls) and is well-respected amonst both parties because we know McCain will pick someone who is young and likeable as well

  16. MJS, you are too young. 🙂

    Ford is a loser and a lightweight in the party. Nice enough but not VP material. Don’t choose for minority status.

    Powell won’t cross party aisles. Again, don’t choose for minority status.

    Biden won’t do it. He’s a party leader and won’t play second fiddle. I love him but I can’t see him doing it. Plus it leaves us with a problem with his age after 8yrs of Hillary.

    Rendell is cool enough, but she needs younger and more deep party roots. Gotta get the healing started.

    Clark won’t be it. Love the man, but not enough political experience. Military man will scare allies in a #2 position.

    Edwards has moved on. He won’t go thru this again as #2. Kerry fucked him hard on that idea. I see him as a poverty czar or cabinet position.

  17. okieatty, I agree!

    any ideas how I can go to either IND or NC – I want to go but can’t afford the r/t Im from Florida – but want to be a part of it. Maybe not these two states but the next one.

    I think Hillary needs to pick a candidate that will help Hillary not only win the ‘critical’ state but also a different set of people that Hillary’s not yet popular with or could help expand her base. Sorta of like the idea of picking Sen. Nelson (D-FL) not that I’m suggesting it but because he’s from Florida and that can help her win FL you know what Im ean?

  18. haaaaaaaaaaah-
    Bayh fundraiser Dean Boerste immediately began the retribution against Hill, distributing a mass e-mail to party insiders that angrily accused Hill of “defying all political logic” and threatening “damage to Congressman Hill’s re-election efforts.” The message encouraged recipients to call Hill’s office and express their “concerns of [Hill] making any endorsements,” advising the congressman to “stay focused on his re-election.”

    http://www.howeypolitics.com/2008/05/01/bayh-parker-put-the-squeeze-on-dem-chairs/

  19. Okie,

    Evan Bayh. Senate seat be damned.

    You’ll regret that if President Clinton’s sweeping healthcare overhaul gets filibustered in the Senate because the Democrats were one Senator short.

  20. “If she wins IN big and stays close in NC, they’ll be saying….whoa….”all bets are off” next week.”

    Wrong. If she wins IND where Bo was favored, and comes close in NC, where BO was favored by a LOT, they’ll say it’s status quote and talk delegates.

    In this sickening kangeroo court, you can count on it.

  21. rjk1957, left a message on it – I see the same thing, the ads were sickening for some reasons and the comments made no sense

  22. Okay team Hillary. It appears that Guam is a day a head of us, so I guess it’s Saturday there tomorrow, which means they caucus tomorrow. I just went on a few Guam websites and there are only Obama ads posted. PLEASE take a moment to write a letter to the editor on each site. That’s the least we can do. Every vote counts. Please do what you can. I just posted a quick note to the editor of each site advising them why I support Hillary and to encourage the people of Guam to get out and vote for our girl.

    Let’s Blog GUAM!!!
    http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/
    http://www.kuam.com/
    http://www.k57.com/
    http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

  23. Howdy folks, I haven’t checked in for a while and thought I’d say hi. I like the looks of those electoral projects up there. Also thought Hillary was great on the O’Reilly show. She shows how well she thinks on her feet and can engage in difficult discussions without getting rattled. She handles herself so well.

  24. idk, i just think Senator Bayh is a very valuable part to the system especially in Purple Indiana.

    I think maybe taking someone from California or New York wouldn’t be so bad. lol. Take one democrat away, and another one will quickly replace him/her! 😀

    how about Maxine Waters?

  25. How about Easley from NC? He’s term limited and very popular. Could make a red state be in play. Plus, he’s attractive and well-spoken.

  26. Okie, I was thinking that yesterday. Easley and Hill would win in a romp.

    MJS, Indiana has never been purple. Deep maroon maybe.

  27. I will be going to South Bend Ind tomorrow. I missed HIllary, I wonder if she will be back in South Bend

  28. No, I didn’t hear anything about Wright saying something today, but Glen Beck played new full sermons and said BO is lying that he didn’t know what Wright was about.

    Fricken Yahoo is STILL headlining that story about Joe Andrew. Why? How is that a major story? I never even heard of the guy.

  29. Hi everybody,

    I’m so HAPPY — Hillary is RISING!! Chelsea was on the cover of a local PR newspaper today. She was here for 2 days. She impressed everybody.

  30. okie,

    i was thinking i like southern gentelman so okay on easley… 🙂
    than again, why not a strong woman like fienstein?

  31. ok, lol. I know I’m kinda just dreaming here, but he… lol

    I think Bayh is more of a valuable player as a respected voice in the Senate 🙂

    lol.

  32. MJS Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 11:02 pm
    what’s all this stuff about Barbara Walters having had an affair with a US senator?

    Who cares? lol.

  33. I think a woman as veep too would be too much estrogen for most people to handle right now. I kind of like Easley, though. A ticket with him seems like it might be the holy grail to win over average americans. I wish I new a little more about him.

  34. Liked this from TM:

    Craig Crawford says that Obama is like a super hero that can’t quite get out of the phone booth lol…..
    athyrio | 05.01.2008 – 10:24 pm | #

  35. Hillbilly, he is a lot like Hill on policy. Education is his big thing. He has a 75% approval rating.

  36. easley would be good! I watched him on CNN this afternoon and thought he was very good at speaking. He seemed much more confident than BamBam even.

  37. dedfg Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 11:20 pm
    dean on daily show…said he will seat fl and mi at convention

    Mhmm. That’s NO GOOD. He means after the nom is chosen. What a hack!

  38. Good Evening!!

    Dose anyone know if SUSA will be doing additional polling in IN and NC befor Tuesday??

  39. I was watching MSNBC tonight, not sure what show, either David or Chris, and they seem to think even if Hillary wins IN and comes close in NC she should give up, Obama has this wraped up. They don’t know the Clintons well, do they!!

  40. Interesting, JAS. I heard Hannity and Colmes said not only would HRC be the nom but she would be the next president. Hmm.

  41. mj: ya gotta love Hannity and Colmes…. Can’t wait to see what Hannity has on Obama next, I know there is Ayers, but that has not seem to take off.

  42. mj, to be fair, SUSA did their last poll during Passover weekend I think, and many Jewish voters couldn’t do polls during that week? (I heard this here)

    + the last few days, Hillary closed strong and won over many more undecideds.

  43. Jon Stewart is in the bag for 👿 .

    Do you know it’s been months since I spelled out his name? Idunn and I came up with that. The only time it’s in a post is when I cut and paste an article.

  44. I know they were 4 pts off, but I still have more faith in them. I beleive overall they are on target just my opinion 😉

  45. easley seems like he would be a good choice:

    good speaker, has appealed, obviously, to both republicans and democrats, southern democrat, young-ish, good-looking.

    Heck, he might be able to put NC in play (if he can make a good case for Hillary there and she gets traditional Dem voters in that state)

  46. Admin, I saw that on ABCNews with Charlie. Funny as hell. That little old woman calling him out like that. 😆

  47. Do you know it’s been months since I spelled out his name? Idunn and I came up with that. The only time it’s in a post is when I cut and paste an article.

    I remember that. I also liked HWSNBN.

  48. yea……..i’d like to know when is this going to come to MSM??

    Admin….perhaps you can do a blog on this to help shed some light on this!!

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/26/why-is-obama-hiding-the-truth-about-william-ayers-follow-the-money/

    Barack Obama is not telling the truth about his relationship with Bill Ayers. There is more to this story than is already known, but Obama and his campaign are working hard to obfuscate and cover up the matter. Why? Because Barack Obama has had a close personal and business relationship with Bill Ayers that predates his run for the Illinois State Senate, and it is incumbent on the Senator from Illinois to come clean.

    In fact, Barack worked for Bill Ayers for at least eight years and the press, so far, has not investigated this matter.

  49. Sometimes Stewart doesn’t seem to like BO. Can’t quite figure him out.

    I wonder if he doesn’t want to seem to biased.

  50. HillBilly, Protestants and Catholics don’t necessarily mix. I think Catholics are more important to Dems this time. The Protestant vote will split. Many P churches are starting to focus on poverty and the environment as an offshoot of the Gospel of Jesus. It helps, but not a whole lot. Just means the GOP will triangulate a little better.

  51. thanks laney 🙂 I just learned a bit more about him 🙂

    seems like a well-coordinated attempt at shifting more books for her new memoir.

  52. ded, Stewart’s writers just take cheap shots that 👿 brings upon himself. They don’t caricature him like they do Hillary.

  53. Actually, Hill won more of the evnagelical vote in Tennessee than McCain. She needs no help with Catholics. I think she will do well all around with religious voters. Probably because a lot of them are women.

  54. yes, I do agree with that Okie. I actually stopped watching Jon months ago. Now I just watch once in a blue moon and then regret it….similar to cnn.

  55. Hillary already has a pretty good lead nationally with Catholics though, doesn’t she?

    I can see where making more inroads into that could be helpful…

    but I think i would like for someone who can start making serious inroads in the Republican South. Someone to make the Republicans sweat and have to campaign vigorously in states like NC, Virginia, Texas (ok, this is a stretch), etc.

    I know Tennessee, Arkansas, and West Virginia can go to Hill in the GE, but I think that with a coalition of women and a popular Southerner, Hillary might be able to break the traditioanlly Republican South.

  56. Iran UN question. Says its BS. Asked if Bill will have an office. Says no, but will be there to bounce ideas off of and he will do special things abroad as needed on a volunteer basis when not doing his foundation work.

  57. She is huge with Catholics, but it’s probably not about religion but demographics. Italians, Irish, Peurto Ricans in the North East. Latinos in Florida and South West/ West Coast. Most regular catholic church goers=white women. Yad yada yada.

  58. Well, I understand about that…I was just thinking that religiousity has nearly been radioactive issue for Dems in the past, but with Hill being a strong Methodist and Easley being Catholic, it would tell the electorate that democrats value faith, too. They don’t have to hang with the Repubs because they have a corner on the market.

  59. How does Dorothy feel about you taking criticism. Not so much. She’s my mom and worries of course, but not so much bc I can handle myself.

  60. OkieAtty Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
    has race speech. Why no gender speech. Bc I’m doing, not talking.

    Love it!

  61. watching nightline-really good but a prob. once again the rpeorter says well hillary its nearly impossble for u to win bc of the delegates. this is insane.msm has bought this arguement that in reality makes no sense. outrageous. hill said my coaltion in deeper and broder than obama’s. i can win.

  62. OkieAtty Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
    has race speech. Why no gender speech. Bc I’m doing, not talking.

    WONDERFUL RESPONSE!

    Thank you for the pbp.

  63. She’s motivated by wanting to make people’s lives better. All about getting folks to know what she wants to do, not give interviews, etc..

    McFadden say’s who she is is a fighter who’s in it to win it.

  64. NOt bad. She was steadfast, mature, all about issues being more important than the candidates. Work to be done is the theme.

  65. Media Whores STILL think Bambi’s speech about race was magnificent, when all he was trying to do was divert attention from Wright. You think they would have realized their gullibility by the second time around.

  66. i think Hillary might be the first candidate in a while for the Dems who could put every single Republican state up for grabs (some more than others) specifically because of Republican women and her appeal to lower income voters.

  67. Iran bitched about your statements. Ironic. Calls Iran provocative, irresponsible. Would negotiate first, but will do everything possible to prevent them from having nukes.

  68. Tells mom to turn off TV and read a good book. You never stop worrying as a mother. Worries more now about her than when she was a kid.

  69. Would never have been able to run for office if has small children. Implication- they’re more important and raising kids is a tough job.

  70. these next upcoming states aren’t going to be brimming with extremely-left wing voters (give or take Oregon) so these comments on Iran aren’t so bad an idea.

  71. What is wrong with her comments on Iran? Jesus, does anyone think an american pres would let Iran nuke isreal?

  72. That’s a question about Wright. And her response.

    Life as a candidate is an open book. It’s fair game.

  73. Mj, Iran complained to the UN she was saber rattling. She basically said, ha, pot calling kettle black. Try me, bitches!

  74. mj, to me, there’s nothing wrong with them, but I know a lot of people in very liberal parts of California, etc, would look at the comment as hawkish/aggressive. Hence why Bambi has waffled/been weak on this topic.

    Note how he was hammering Hillary on the kyl-liberman thing in the earlier primaries? In my opinion, that Iran vote was justified and the right idea as I agree with it, but many dems in certain areas are more pacificist and anti-war of any kind.

  75. “saber rattling” has become completely overused. Hey, Iran, try “Isreal should be taken off the map”. Talk about saber rattling.

  76. I love her! No wonder my mom and grandmother love her, too. I’m their daughter, granddaughter. And we’re tough women. 🙂

  77. Note how he was hammering Hillary on the kyl-liberman thing in the earlier primaries? Press should have never let him get away with that. He ducked the vote. Even Durbin voted for that.

  78. Hillary should be what the modern woman is.

    Sadly, the girls I see in school would rather be Britney Spears or Paris Hiltons.

  79. INDIANAPOLIS – By early this week, you could almost feel the air rushing out of Barack Obama’s campaign. While the Howey-Gauge Poll of April 23-24 had Obama with a narrow 47-45 percent lead over Hillary Clinton, later surveys, including an April 28 SurveyUSA Poll had Clinton surging to a 52-43 percent lead. It came a day before Obama conducted a press conference in North Carolina and denounced the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The sense on the ground was that a shift was under way. Fort Wayne Journal Gazette Washington reporter Sylvia Smith even came out and predicted a Clinton victory.
    http://www.howeypolitics.com/2008/05/01/hpi-analysis-clinton-obama-mo mentum-see-saws/
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:12 pm | #
    I send this e mail to S/D Joe Andrew today.

    Mr. Andrew,
    My heart aches as I heard that you have switch sides from Senator Clinton, to Senator Obama. I really would like for you if all possible a response from you. I would like to know what is it about the DNC party alienating, disrespecting, and disenfranchising democrat voters. DNC has done everything possible to make us feel like we are not part of this party or election. I feel like we are being slapped in the face. What have we done to deserve this kind of treatment? Is it just because the dislike they have toward Senator Clinton so therefore they must dislike us too? Sure seem that way. We democrats voters should not be punished by S/D’s for how the candidates run their campaigns. We (the voters)don’t have any control over that. You said that the Clinton campaign is using Republican political tactics. There’s blame to go around on Obama’s campaign too on these Rep. political tactics, Mr. Andrew. Not just on the Clinton campaign. You also forgot to mention that the DNC is using Republican political tactics on it’s own democrat voters by disenfranchising them. Let’s not forget the Republican used this political tactic on democrat voters by disenfranchising them in 2000 and 2004. Because the fact that you and other are tired of old politics tactics, you feel the need of having this power to take it upon yourselves and tell us you want to stop us from expressing our civil right. DNC party is saying that they don’t want us to be allowed at this point to continue our democratic process. We have been working our hearts out for Senator Clinton, Mr. Andrew, but it seem that the more we try we just feel disrespected, disenfranchised, alienated from our DNC party, Pelosi, Brazil, etc., media and now Senator Clinton’s super delegates who are leaving her with no good explanation, other then to say to Senator Clinton’s supporters(voters which happen to be the core of the democratic party), that we are not important anymore. THAT’S THE MESSAGE WE ARE HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR FROM OUR PARTY, THAT THEY DON’T NEED OUR VOTES ANYMORE, BUT COME NOVEMBER THEY WILL NEED EVERY SINGLE VOTE THEY CAN GET FROM ALL OF HER SUPPORTERS. IT WON’T BE THAT EASY. They(DNC) are so determine that we give up and call it quits. It’s mind boggling how this is happening in the US OF A. Every time we see the polls showing her moving up, we are let down by some super delegates going to Obama. WHY,WHY,WHY? Millions of Senator Clinton voters (the core of the democratic party) are hurt by what you have done to us. One thing you should know about Senator Clinton supporters is we are strong believers in her message. What is so wrong about believing in Senator Clinton? What is so wrong in letting our democratic process to continue. We are determine to continue until June so that no one in the party will feel left out. I can’t believe the dis-service that the democratic party leaders are doing to the American people.
    With all due respect Mr.Andrew, but since you seem to know what is coming to you for switching sides, well maybe you and the rest of the DNC party, should also know what is coming to you from the CORE OF THE CLINTON VOTERS IN NOVEMBER. IT WOULD ALSO BE EASIER FOR US TO DUCK AND COVER, BUT IT’S BETTER IF YOU ALSO KNOW WHATS IN OUR HEARTS. IF YOU AND THE DNC PARTY FEEL THE NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THIS MESSAGE TO STOP PEOPLE FROM VOTING NOW, THEN MAYBE WE (Senator Clinton supporters) NEED TO REMEMBER THE PARTY’S MESSAGE AND STOP IN NOVEMBER FROM VOTING DEMOCRAT. As I’m writing this Mr. Andrew,as my heart aches and my eyes are filled with tears running down my face. I can’t seem to control my emotions how hurt i feel for what you and my party has done to me and millions of voters to have been mistreated in this way. I think we never expected to be disrespected, alienated, disenfranchised from our own party. It’s going to take me and (am sure) millions of us a very long time to have trust in the Democratic party again.
    Disappointed Florida Voter
    fl03 | 05.01.2008 – 11:12 pm | #

    I don’t like the way Bill O’Reilly interrupts the people he interviews. In reality, he attempts to make his interviews more about him than about the person he is interviewing.

    In this interview, Hillary shined. She handles herself great when dealing with bullies. I have yet to see something that Hillary has not been able to answer in an intelligent way. She has a brain and she uses it, isn’t that unusual for a politician? That is the change that I want to see!
    Nomobama | 05.01.2008 – 11:12 pm | #
    “Pardon my elitism, but Hillary had a tour de force on BillO.”

    Sigh..I STILL want to screan every time they break out the “humble origins/single mother/food stamps” meme then act as if Clinton grew up on the Main Line.

    Elitism is a state of mind. There are very wealthy but non-elite folks..Warren Buffet being the prototype..and others with really not much of anything but debt, but who see themselves as “the chosen.”

    Than again, perhaps it’s elitist to expect people to use words properly.
    Rima | 05.01.2008 – 11:12 pm | #
    Puget…

    Henderson, NV via the Bay Area…

    Retired here almost 2 years ago and LOVE Las Vegas!!!!
    LVDem4Hill | 05.01.2008 – 11:12 pm | #
    WMCB
    You know the old saying about a woman scorned….
    mookiedog | 05.01.2008 – 11:13 pm | #
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:09 pm | #

    Let’s hear it for Sen. Bayh. I think he’d be a fine VP choice…

    Hillbilly4Hill | 05.01.2008 – 11:14 pm | #
    Chick, I’m on a Mac, so I hold down the control key, and click once, which makes a little menu pop up that says “reload” as an option.

    Not sure what the key shortcut is on a pc.
    WMCB | 05.01.2008 – 11:11 pm | #

    I am on a pc right now but on my macbook I think I just hit the refresh key (that little circular arrow one)
    ainnj | 05.01.2008 – 11:14 pm | #
    democraticjack, I’ve noticed that!
    Frostback | 05.01.2008 – 11:15 pm | #
    “The covert organizing has miffed Obama supporters and impartial party leaders hoping that neutrality will mitigate post-primary fractures in the party.”

    Gee, sounds as if they take the Bush line towards bipartisanship and “healing”..”Just STFU and do it my way, NOW!”
    Rima | 05.01.2008 – 11:17 pm | #
    I also bitched earlier about how O mispronounces “irreparable”. It irks me…what can I say?
    Frostback | 05.01.2008 – 11:17 pm | #
    lilscot | 05.01.2008 – 10:51 pm

    goodnite my hab!
    i’ll briefly blog in the am….have a 7:30a meeting (ugh) and have to leave my humble abode by 7a.

    sweet dreams
    ((((hillary hugs to all my TMers))))
    birdie | 05.01.2008 – 11:17 pm | #
    This is too kewl! Thanks to all for all the help. I bet there were some other closet refreshers out there, but I’m not afraid to ask… took me 2 months. ;>)
    Chick | 05.01.2008 – 11:18 pm | #
    Clyburn Blasts Wright for ‘Knee-Capping’ Obama
    By Jonathan Weisman
    For a Democratic superdelegate who is officially still unaligned, House Majority Whip James Clyburn (S.C.) is sounding more and more like a Barack Obama fan.
    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/01/clyburn_blasts_wr ight_for_knee.html

    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 10:24 pm

    Just what I want a President that needs people to fight his battles for him, because HE is so weak.
    At first I kndo of felt bad that I was thinking of voting for McCain if the unthinkable happened and this fruad got the Nom, but more and more I think I will probably be standing outside the door in Nov hoping to get to be the first vote against Obama.

    AC on now what a kool aid drinker, why aren’t SD breaking to Clinton, they are all going to Obama THey just totally ignore the 4 SD Hillary got today
    lyn | 05.01.2008 – 11:19 pm | #
    I’m still awake – want to see Hillary on Nightline in about 10 minutes.
    WMCB | 05.01.2008 – 11:19 pm | #
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:09 pm | #
    Let’s hear it for Sen. Bayh. I think he’d be a fine VP choice…
    Hillbilly4Hill | 05.01.2008 – 11:14 pm | #

    These governors sure know how to work their tails off!!
    Bayh is great for me!
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:19 pm | #
    And, another one…WHY does he put a period after every word he says?

    Frostback | 05.01.2008 – 11:20 pm | #
    AC on now what a kool aid drinker, why aren’t SD breaking to Clinton, they are all going to Obama THey just totally ignore the 4 SD Hillary got today…

    I can’t wait til people start writing books on this primary season. I’ll but the first one!!
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:21 pm | #
    I’ll BUY the first one….

    sheeez.
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:22 pm | #
    ginaswo | 05.01.2008 – 11:01 pm

    simply brilliant!

    obama’s tour de farce

    BOOYAH GINAH SWO!!
    birdie | 05.01.2008 – 11:22 pm | #
    Thanx for the heads up, WMCB.
    Frostback | 05.01.2008 – 11:22 pm | #
    A Clinton O’Reilly ticket…
    He was good, but not that good….
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:23 pm | #
    Chick | 05.01.2008 – 11:02 pm

    chick, when you have the Comments window open press “F5”, up at the top of your keyboard

    then to get to the end of the thread press “End”

    good luck and jump in!
    birdie | 05.01.2008 – 11:25 pm | #
    (Joe Andrew’s endorsement) may have been a payback for another former DNC chair,Terry McAuliffe, who came to Indianapolis for a Democratic Leadership Council event in 2001 and embarrassed Andrew when he told the conference how poorly the DNC had been run under Andrew’s tenure.
    http://www.howeypolitics.com/2008/05/01/hpi-analysis-clinton-obama-mo mentum-see-saws/

    Can you believe that these guys would play with our lives to get points against each other??

    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:27 pm | #
    The Obama camp can identify undecided voters and get friendly neighbors to make a pitch within hours. It has also employed a barber shop/beauty shop strategy for turning out the African-American vote (male activists go to beauty shops; females to barber shops). These are often the social networking centers in black neighborhoods.

    Who would have thought?
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:30 pm | #
    AC 360 blog, a story about Bill campaigning of course it(the reporter) sounds kind of whiny. and the comments are nasty.(surprise) show some Hillary Love http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/01/bill-clinton-is-everywhere-and- nowhere/#more-819
    every once in a while they actually post a pro hillary comment
    lyn | 05.01.2008 – 11:30 pm | #
    Can you believe that these guys would play with our lives to get points against each other??

    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:27 pm | #
    That’s why I think that Dick Morris’ comment about Dean not liking Hillary should get some play–besides on FOX this evening put them on the spot!
    jslat | 05.01.2008 – 11:31 pm | #
    Question: Is Dick Morris the sucker, or suckee?

    Frostback | 05.01.2008 – 11:33 pm | #
    Or both? LOL
    jslat | 05.01.2008 – 11:33 pm | #
    hunkerdown | 05.01.2008 – 11:27 pm

    yep, that’s politics with the big boyz.. dont you just wonder what’s up with dickhead morris and why he’s ssooosoosososoo angry at hillary and bill-big-dawg clinton?

    lots of skeletons in them ol closests….and toe-suckin dickheads (meaning morris of course).
    birdie | 05.01.2008 – 11:33 pm | #
    Than again, perhaps it’s elitist to expect people to use words properly.
    Rima | 05.01.2008 – 11:12 pm | #

    You do realise I was being sarcastic?

    cleo | 05.01.2008 – 11:34 pm | #
    WOW Nightline “She’s Soaring”
    jslat | 05.01.2008 – 11:35 pm | #
    good nite my friends. hopping in bed to watch hillary and then drift off to sleep with positive thoughts for her success and TROUNCING of obamammaman and mccranky.

    birdie | 05.01.2008 – 11:36 pm | #
    She’s on a roll while Obama struggles- Terry Moran
    jslat | 05.01.2008 – 11:36 pm | #
    Nightline: Hillary Clinton is on a roll, and she has a real opportunity to change this race yet again–but can she capitalize?

    Cut to Cynthia McFadden on the trail with Hill. “Is it too late to win?”

    She hugs Hillary when the meet to sit for an interview.

    Mention the stupid Joe A. “defection.” He looks like another lame pasty weakling.

    HRC: “I am picking up support and do not understand why anyone would want to short circuit the process. Anyone who is saying this hurts the party is not paying attention.”

    She also mentions that the pale weasel did not even have the courtesy to call her before he switched. What a jerk.

    She emphasizes that her base is much broader and deeper than her opponents!

    I won the big states, and let’s follow the rules and get to the end of the primaries in June.
    fif | 05.01.2008 – 11:40 pm | #
    It is truly mind-boggling to think anyone would see this O’Reilly interview and not realize without any doubt that Sen. Clinton is the most qualified and experienced to lead this country.
    MikeB08 | 05.01.2008 – 11:40 pm | #
    William

    If the Party establishment pulls off such a coup, what coalition do they plan on winning the GE with?

    Reagan Democrats and Independents will go to McCain in droves, and McCain will win the Hispanic vote as well. There is already a poll of Hispanics that shows McCain beating Obama 57-43%, and Hillary winning them 76-24%. With Hillary at the top of the ticket, we have an opportunity to build a broader coalition by bringing Reagan Democrats back into the party, voting their economic self-interest.

    The deep divide in the Party was created by the Obama camp prior to South Carolina when they decided to brand Bill and Hillary as racists, and then began a campaign to demonize them, trashing Hillary’s first lady record, and Bill’s legacy as well. It is a tragedy indeed. And for this tactic, they want to reward Obama with the nomination.

    Not enough of the party establishment know these facts, and are not willing to even look at them. I’m sure there are many in the media that know this, but they are so obsessed with bringing down Hillary Clinton, they simply don’t care.
    Benjamin | 05.01.2008 – 11:41 pm | #
    NEW THREAD
    atimberger | 05.01.2008 – 11:43 pm | #
    Asks HRC about the gas tax cut, and quotes Thomas Friedman slamming the idea.

    HRC: “That’s a really elitist view(!), and people are trying to get from paycheck to paycheck. She talks about $70 savings for some people is a lot of money.”

    Iran criticizing her. “That’s coming from a very irresponsible and rogue nation.”

    Bill will focus on his foundation–he won’t have an office. I gave up everything when I went into the WH, as a full time volunteer.

    [Great candid pix of her on the trail, and her mom.]

    I keep telling her [her mom] to turn off the TV and read a book. Of course it upsets her. She said to me, “When you were a little girl, I didn’t worry about you, but as you’ve gotten older, I worry about you all the time!” Very sweet.

    She mentions that the Big Dawg is down south eating a lot of barbeque!

    fif | 05.01.2008 – 11:43 pm | #
    “But that’s a Yooper thing I guess.”

    Hiya mookiedog! Another Yooper here, eh? I’ve been living by Lansing for a few years now but my mother and that side of my family all live in the U.P., 45 minutes west of the bridge at the top of Lake Michigan. Where abouts are you at? We also like to say: “you’re the last one here, your turn to buy”. Guess that would be me tonight, so the next round is on me.. *cheers*

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  80. Negotiate, but be ready to do what you have to for peace.

    My folks taught me anything worth having is worth fighting for. You can’t believe that, live that and be a pussy-assed pacifist.

  81. MJS, I know. It saddens me. If they want to act like twats, they’ll get treated like twats. They should have more respect for themselves and their parents.

  82. OKieAtty, I was just saying that the upcoming states aren’t so pacifistic as the ones that have already gone by, like Cali, Mass, etc. This strength on Iran is a very good GE message. Hillary is coming off more and more as a fighter who never gives up. I actually love this extended primary season because it has really helped imprint this image on people who might’ve looked at her as someone who just depended on Bill or something.

    The extended primary is really helping us a lot, and when we get the nomination, we should have an easy time with McCain.

  83. Not a lot of love for Iran in MA. We have a large jewish pop and they are not very comfortable with Iran.

  84. So…. does everyone have the same felling as I do, that is, Hillary will win IN by 10 and lose NC no more than 5??? If truth be told, and the poll nubers keep going good in NC she could win.

  85. okieatty, that’s exactly what is going on. Note all the songs calling girls whores and talking about having 20 girls for every man, etc. I don’t remember hearing songs this vulgar from the earlier decades…and it almost seems like we are de-progressing on gender as girls are increasingly being seen as sluts/whores and its being ok to call them so.

    it’s sickening, but I think hillary as President might be able to help change all of that.

  86. I have Iranian and Persian friends. Bush has harmed us with them. We can recover. If Hillary is POTUS.

    It would help if Israel would chill a bit. Accept the cease fire and go back to the table.

  87. ——————————————————————————–

    Joe Klein Calls for Hillary’s Murder posted by rodham44
    05.01.2008 – 11:42 pm
    I sent this tonight to Joe Klein. I’m so much more than fed up with this abuse vented at HC. Please pass this along or write CNN yourself if you feel inclined. It can’t hurt!

    —————————

    Dear Mr. Klein,

    Tonight on Campbell Brown’s Election Center at CNN, you were discussing the heated battle for the Democratic nomination. You said, “Only an Improvised Explosive Device will take out Senator Clinton.” Ms. Brown laughed and expressed her agreement.

    There are no polite words I know that can adequately express my anger. This is the latest in a long line of viciously misogynist comments from pundits, such as Keith Olbermann’s recent suggestion that “a super-super-delegate take Hillary Clinton into a room and only he comes out.” This language is irresponsible, abusive, and pathological. Referring to Hillary Clinton’s demise at the hands of a murderer should obviously be out of bounds. Instead, it provokes smiles, titters, and agreement. Were Senator Obama threatened in this way on a regular basis, rivers of ink and yelling crowds would convey mass disapproval. Instead, when it comes to Hillary Clinton, it’s a matter for jokes.

    Not to mention that such a reference shows profound disrespect to the many military personnel who have in fact been killed by IED’s and to those who continue to be threatened by them on a daily basis. I have written CNN asking them to rebuke you for this glib comment, and you and Campbell Brown owe your TV viewers a sincere apology.

    Comments (1)

  88. Yes, Okie. The Ireal gov is too right wing, most israeli’s agree. But we need to be part of the solution. Bush ignored the problem for 8 years.

  89. H4T, I’m confident about IN. 👿 is off his message and folks who are his supporters say he is stale.

    He’s a one trick pony.

  90. Jas, I see Hillary winning by 12+ in Indiana. As far as NC, I think she will keep it under 10…not necessarily 5. (early voting has been bad for us)

    As far as the results on Tuesday, I sense that regardless of whatever happens Tuesday, Obama is going to UP the attacks after Tuesday. He will get surrogates all over TV to be more vicious than they have been even and attack her to force her out before June.

    That’s my gut feeling and I have a feeling its going to be true.

  91. She needs to keep campagining to the male/white voters in NC, if Iam reading the polls correctly she is starting to gain in this demographic.

  92. MJS, Steve Miller had a line about “really like your peaces, wanna shake your tree.”

    Women have always been objectified. Don’t fool yourself.

    Rat Pack? Elvis and his groupies? Girls, Girls, Girls? AC/Dc- “kept her motor clean?”

  93. mj, what’s more sad is that I’m a guy and i can notice this, and yet these little dumb slutty girl types just go along with it.

  94. well Okie, I’m sure there wasn’t a song called “I Wanna F**K You” in that time, was there? The songs are getting worse and worse, especially in the Hip Hop/RnB section and currently, that is the popular music that the current young generation is listening to (me included)

  95. MJS, NC has an open primary. We’ll pick up support that will be there in the GE.

    As for 👿 he’s been attacking for months. That message is stale, too. He’ll have to have something more than Bosnia. Hsu was a washout. What’s he got left?

    Same ‘ole. Same ‘ole.

    I see rumors (and know) that he has more coming on him bigger than what we’ve seen. I see no similar rumors about Hillary.

  96. The movies, too. All the mainstream movies now have an “unrated” version. Sadest thing I ever saw was Ben Stiller in his unrated version of some movie that looked like nothing but a porno.

  97. MJ, I agree. It is regressive, but it’s up to parents, not government to police what kids learn.

  98. MJS…California is not a pacifistic state. California have more marines over in Iraq then any other state…I think when it comes to military bases Califonia is one of the top states.

    Please don’t confuse a few liberal counties in Northern California, the majority of the state is pro defense. We would be a fool not too. I think the republicans have demogage this issue but but President Ronald Reagan and other came from California. Even our democrats our pro defense…It’s a huge state and very forward thinking but National Defense is very important to us.

  99. OkieAtty Says:

    May 2nd, 2008 at 12:14 am
    MJ, I agree. It is regressive, but it’s up to parents, not government to police what kids learn.

    Obviously.

  100. Okie, I ‘m thinking that after tuesday, he’s going to unleash the remainder of his withheld Super D’s en masse and have them all going in turn to call for Hillary to drop out.

  101. This election is about government, not about culture. Don’t ever confuse the two. The GOP did that for too long. We’re finally back to the opportunity to make people’s lives better where they can be with their kids at dinnertime. Give them the opportunity and the culture might change.

    I also thing the Miley Cyrus thing has struck a nerve,

  102. mj Says:

    May 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 am
    Nearly impossible to win NC.

    Gee, mj, you are always so darn positive.

  103. MJS, I call BS on that. If he had 50 ready to go as claimed, he’d do so now. His momentum sucks and the extended fight is killing him. He needs a knockout bc he can’t go 12 rounds with Rockyette.

  104. carbynew, i guess. I was thinking of places like San Francisco, etc, but I see where you are right.

    And in the primaries, isn’t it mostly these people (more extreme left) that turn out in larger proportions than they do in the GE?

  105. Money to Superdelegates: These current and former elected officials received campaign contributions from either Obama or Clinton in the 2006 and/or 2008 election cycles”
    ************************************
    Also…in response to question from jenniferm
    “interesting that Claire McCaskill has accepted $10,000 from Obama. Would explain all the TV appearances. Where do you find WHEN the donation was made?”

    here’s a link…that helps to answer

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/31905.html
    ****************************************
    Other links about superdelegates can be found at

    http://Giveemhell.org/superdelegates.htm

  106. I’m not being negative. I’m saying the slate people are raising a very high bar. Remember when it was just keep it in single digits in NC and that would be a moral victory for Hill? Always changing the goal posts. It’s the demographics that make it difficult. Nothing else.

  107. Family Guy on- “It’s Takes a Village Idiot, And I Married One” wherein Lois is running for office.

  108. Okie, he’s released almost one a day for a while now. I think he has just let the Super D’s drip drip drip and if you tally it up, it is pretty close to or more than that number.

  109. I hope next Wednesday, the Clinton talking points are, Obama can’t close the deal, he has had 4 times (including Tuesday) and he did not do it, also they can talk about all the money he has spent, maybe that will cause donation to slow down. 🙂

  110. anyways, if we can pull off a large surprise in Indiana we can say: “Hey, even Obama called this the tie-breaker!”

    that would be huge.

    Make a video of Obama saying Indiana is the tie-breaker, then we throw in by how much Hillary won by and ask him if he’ll concede that he has lost the “game”

  111. The goalposts change for three reasons:

    1. BM hate sher.
    2. We have fewer primaries and the convention is getting closer.
    3. SD’s are starting to commit.

  112. Okie, I think the number is around: 80 or so have endorsed him since Feb. I think he has more that he knows are committed to him, but he is keeping them on the down low.

    However, I also think hillary has a few more endorsements up her sleeve too so it swings both ways.

  113. I think Hillary going into the lion’s den has been huge. She seems very centrist especially compared to 👿 and his fringe friends.

  114. I’m hoping some more stuff from Rezko will come out, seeing as BM ignored Auchi+Obama connection.

  115. IMO, the Wright-Ayers stories have weakened BHO, but when the Rezko hits the fan in a few months it will be over for him.

  116. MJS, his 50 ready to go was announced before PA. He got his ass handed to him. It wasd abluff. He was trying to play on the “bandwagon effect” which served him well after IA and ST.

  117. Corruption trial hears of plot to fire prosecutor
    Thu May 1, 2008 9:29pm EDT

    By Andrew Stern

    CHICAGO (Reuters) – A witness at the trial of political fundraiser Antoin Rezko testified on Thursday that then-White House aide Karl Rove was asked to replace the federal prosecutor in Chicago to abort a probe of Illinois corruption.

    Rove has denied knowledge of any discussion to replace Patrick Fitzgerald, the widely respected U.S. attorney in Chicago, when Rove was one of President George W. Bush’s top advisers.

    Rove, who left the White House last year, could not immediately be reached on Thursday. A spokesman for Fitzgerald, who was appointed in 2001 and remains in office, had no comment.

    At the trial in U.S. District Court in Chicago, prosecution witness Ali Ata recounted how Rezko, a businessman with close ties to Illinois Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, threatened Ata and anyone else who helped the government’s investigation.

    CONT:

    http://tinyurl.com/69jg8m

  118. okie, I think Hillary is more of a moderate democrat. Obama comes off as a streaking radical, but I think he’s just an illusion. He’s only an obaman. He has no values, no morals, no beliefs, no political ideology, anything. The only thing he knows is change, hope, and pandering to whoever will listen.

  119. JAS, it’s too late for NC. After Tuesday it will come back again. He’ll say no and be an even bigger pussy.

  120. I hadn’t realized until I saw it posted elsewhere (NQ I think) that he has run for higher office every 3 yrs.

  121. He has no values, just blind ambition.

    Wright went after him bc he knew after the race speech he had been bamboozled and hoodwinked by a pretender. He was offended for himself, his church and his community. I respect him for standing up for himself even if I don’t agree with his beliefs.

  122. Okie, to be fair, he only waited ONE year in the Senate before starting his run for the presidency. lol

  123. Obama probably doesn’t even believe in Hope or Change. He basically ate whatever drug Axelrod gave him.

    Obama is the puppet gone bad.

  124. Okie, I have a bad feeling that there might/could be more than ambition that is fueling this guy. I mean, what nut, however ambitious, decides on running for a new office every 3 years?

    Hell, this is making me trust the guy even less. He must have some deeper agenda than simple ambition. All his VILE friends and buddies make me suspect him only more and what he REALLY intends for America. :shudders:

  125. omg, those puppets are freaky :shudders: hmm…reminds me of BO. lol 😀 but still ew. they are worse than my fear of clowns.

  126. Hi guys.

    URGENT ACTION ITEM:
    Crazy Kossacks are at it again….

    1) Please contact CT super delegate CT Dem Cttee Chairperson Nancy DiNardo & encourage her to wait to endorse
    (email is good, CT residents-snail mail is better)
    Daily Kos is targeting her….

    email: NDiNardo@ctdems.org
    address:
    179 Allyn St. Suite 301
    Hartford, CT 06103
    Tel: 860-560-1775

    2) Please show CT super delegate John Olson some love. He came out for our girl today but Obamatrons have been beating him up:
    jolson@ctaflcio.org

  127. though I try not to let my suspicions get the best of me, I must be upfront and honest. His connections with the chaos-causing and radical Odinga in Kenya, corrupt and middle-east-terrorist associated Rezko, American-soil terrorist Ayers, Radical Wright, Auchi, etc really makes me think he is trying to do something horrible to America. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE that I know from recent history has had such horrible connections and relationships immediately. People like George Bush, Bill Clinton, Carter, etc, weren’t connected to these types of people, or at least not so goddamn many (if at all).

    The closest I can think of is Nixon, but he was mostly just lambasted after the Watergate thing.

  128. i won’t go so far as to call Obama a Muslim or a terrorist or radicalist, but from his associations, I can honestly say that I don’t think he is a good man at all.

  129. Honestly, the SDs need to stop throwing the entire Party over the cliff. We need a winner. We need Hill.

  130. WHO’S ON FIRST?

    # justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    May 1st, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Im first? No!
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    justme…

    I’ve done that too. “New thread? No one has posted? I’m first??? Think of something, anything, just nab that flag.”

    Kinda of like why people raced to get to Everest’s top first.

    %%%%%%%%
    And it may explain why Obama wants to be president. “Wow, there’s a void…and suddenly I gave a speech and everyone’s saying ‘He’s a guy with a Future’, and it’s tempting to listen to all those people saying ‘Just go for it, what have you got to lose?’ “.

    So there’s a some egotism in all of us. For some of us, it is silly little thing like being at the top of the post…For Obama, this whole Presidency thing is his little ego gratification.

    The huge difference is the cost. Obama’s ego can lead to a Democratic loss in a year when it should be a “slam dunk”. That’s our primary supposition of Why Hillary, Why NOT Obama: Electability, based on each candidates’ true motives for running.

    Obama seeks to plant the flag at the top and reap Glory. Hillary wants to roll up her sleeves and get to work.

    Obama wants the glory of the instant gratification, of having the World’s most influential job, and of being the first AA. In fact, he’d settle for being the first major party Aftrican American candidate, even if he losed to McCain.

    Hillary wants the glory after having worked at and fulfilled goals for the people.

  131. This is a posting from another board, from an obamabot. Have a good laugh:

    “This morning I think it was MSNBC showing the weakness of each candidate. They used some political issues for McCain and Obama (sorry, I don’t remember the specifics), then they showed Hillary’s ‘weakness’….while on campaign trail she could not get the cofee out of the coffee machine….what a joke! Fox is totally for McCain. CNN is almost like it’s owned by the Clintons. MSNBC has one or two shows that are OK, meaning both candidates are shown. I think the media made a 180 degree turn just before the OH/TX primary. Up to that point, they were showing Obama’s rallies- rockstar quality, message of hope, etc. As soon as they realized that they needed to- 1)keep the race going, longer the better for their ratings, and 2)whatever helps McCain in the end is the good thing, according to at least some networks. So they started painting different pictures. It worked because the race is still going on. “

  132. Is it possible that she could actually win North Carolina. That could cripple him.

  133. mjs and others,

    I think Obama is mostly just a self-centered spoiled-child neurotic trying to work out his own conflicts projected on a national/world scale. He didn’t grow up with these freaks, he sought some of them out later, and others were just around in the same circles. I think he’s just after ‘radical chic’.

    I may be wrong, we might check out his Indonesian father(?) who was quoted saying you have only two choices, to be the bully or the victim, and calling America the bully of Indonesia or something like that.

    But BO was really raised by whites (mother, then grandparents from age 10 up). His grandfather had extreme white liberal guilt — see Steve Sailer’s blog about his grandmother and the bus and the Black bum.

    He might be used by those freaks if he got elected, but I doubt he has any deliberate plan to help them.

  134. t4h

    If you are talking about RFK jr critcizing his family for supporting the evil one. Here is a link:

    http: //blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/robert-kennedy.html

  135. Keep in mind that the SDs won’t actually vote until the convention just like all the other delegates. They are free to change their minds every day until the time comes when they raise their hands in August. Unless Hillary or he-whose-name-I- will-not-mention drops out officially, things will go until Denver. Of course, there will be intense pressure to get one of them to drop out via threats and promises, but unless someone blinks, it will be decided in Denver.
    Expect intense behind-the-scenes negotiations once the primary season is over. Both are now trying to get the strongest bargaining positions. There will lots of public posturing in the meantime, much of it just bluff. We need wins in the upcoming contests to give Hillary the best hand. She will take care of the rest.

  136. texan4hillary,

    Where do you get that polling from, I didn’t see yet on real clear.

  137. Zogby had done the same for each and every primary. Boring! It is a little too late, but we could have started our own polling organization. Every week before a primary we would locate all the zip codes for white working class, Latino, Jewish and Asian-Americans etc. neighborhoods and call a few hundred people. We would put the following to the interviewees:

    Barak Obama wants to raise the capitol gains tax on all Americans, is not in favor of universal health care, has had almost no experience at the national level, belongs to a racist church, etc. and so forth

    If the primary would be held tomorrow would you vote for:

    Former First Lady and two term Senator from New York Hilary Clinton

    Rookie Senator Barak Obama

    Then we would publish the very high numbers for Hillary and fox could make it their headline story.

    Simple

  138. texan4hillary Says:

    May 2nd, 2008 at 5:02 am
    new nc susa bo-51,h 44. aas 9 in 10, whites 7 in 10. this will be close

    *********************************************************

    Does this mean 7 out of 10 whites for Hillary?

  139. OR is populated with college educated ultra liberals, this susa poll is the closest poll I have seen. When Hillary wins big on Tuesday polls in OR will hopefully tighten some more. Most voters will probably start returning their ballots next week so Hillary needs really strong showings in both IN and NC.

  140. John Gibson of Fox News may have correctly identified the box into which Wright has put Obama. It involves the implication that all whites are actually racists to one extent or another.

    “African American callers to my radio program reflect some of these same conflicts. Some say it’s obvious Wright spoke the truth and white voters should accept the fact that they are still active heirs of a slave system and they are more racist than they are willing to admit.

    The question that always springs to mind which these callers cannot answer: How do you call someone a racist and ask for their vote at the same time?

    Pardon me for being blunt, but it does not sound like a winning strategy.”

    Good question: How do you call someone a racist and ask for their vote at the same time?

    foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353706,00.html

  141. I see Andrew didn’t have the decency to call Hillary and tell her before defecting. I saw his announcement and he looked like a little wimp anyway. Obama can have the bitch….

  142. I see Andrew didn’t have the decency to call Hillary and tell her before defecting.

    what’s with that? he seems proud of it too. he doesn’t even realize how bad that makes him look, even worse than richardson.

  143. It’s well past the time for the campaign to attack this argument about SD’s that would endorse Hill if she lost the delegate & popular vote totals being afraid to “overturn the will of the people”.

    No, they would be EXPRESSING the will of democratic voters instead of reflecting the will of a bunch of red state caucus, as President Clinton said yesterday.

    So the talking heads were already on-air saying how winning IND would be no big deal, and she should drop out anyway!
    Not gonna say I told you so…..

  144. Pew: Obama Losing White Working Class Dems To Hillary In Landslide

    By Eric Kleefeld – May 1, 2008, 4:43PM

    Barack Obama is suffering a serious erosion in his support among white working class Dem primary voters, the new Pew Research poll finds.

    A month ago, Hillary held a 50%-40% advantage among white Democratic voters with a high school degree or less. Today, after the Pennsylvania result and the latest flare-up by Jeremiah Wright, it’s a 65%-25% win for Hillary among this same group.

    Among white Dems making less than $50,000 per year, Hillary leads 58%-34%, up from a 47%-45% lead a month ago.

    Pew still has Obama ahead in a statistical dead heat with a 47%-45% lead, but that’s down from his 49%-39% lead last month. (Sample size: 651 Democratic voters and Dem-leaners. Margin of error: ±4.5%)

  145. High praise this morning from Pat Buchanan znd Joe Scarborough.Mika glaring in anger,trying to promote her secret love,BHO.Srained looks by Joe as Mika pouts.Better get your desk cleaned out soon Mika.
    Hillary has been awesome in her debates and interviews.She as a built in Internal Hard Drive for a brain and Big Compassionate HEART. Pat said that she is the most impressive skilled Politician of our time. Doesn,t get any better than that. HILLARY YOU WILL BE OUR 44th and first WOMAN PRESIDENT.

    GO GIRL by ABM90

  146. ABM90 – I am a big fan of your posts and feel the same way. And I think Hillary will do much better than conventional wisdom suggests on Tuesday.

  147. Morning.
    Some encouraging words for us.
    An SD interviewed on MSNBC (can’t remeber his name) says that while he hasn’t made up his mind, he has to consider the views of his organizations (the Young Democrats or something) and that if Waffles continues to shed blue collar support on May 6, as happened in PA, it could raise a red flag because the nomionee should be the one who can BEAT McCain.

  148. Make History with Hillary!

    Our time – and HER time is NOW

    You’re invited to an “I’m Ready for Hillary” Party

    Women’s rights activists know how important victory in Indiana is to Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the Presidency and to our lives and future. Kim Gandy, President of National NOW PAC, Olga Vives, NOWExecutive Vice President, and other national and state NOW leaders are coming to Indiana to meet with NOW members and feminist voters to tell personal and moving stories about working with Hillary Clinton on women’s rights issues and underscore our first-hand knowledge of her commitment to women and families and a better – more equal – world.

    The National NOW PAC has endorsed Hillary Clinton because she can deliver on DAY ONE and she is the strongest candidate to: win in November; fix our shattered economy; resolve the housing and mortgage crisis; develop a health care program that covers ALL Americans; stand firm as a strong civil rights and women’s rights leader; promote policies that help us juggle work and family; and work to bring our troops home from Iraq from day one.

    Join us for the discussion & the party- Invite friends who love Hillary AND who are undecided!

    Thursday, May 1
    South Bend
    6:30 – 8:00 pm
    1918 Southernview, South Bend 46614
    Hosted by Penny Hughes, 574291-2342
    Info and rsvp: Ellyn Stecker, 574-532-8166 cell, etstecker@earthlink.net

    Friday, May 2
    Muncie
    6:30 – 8:30 pm
    3200 Brook Drive, Muncie 47304
    Hosted by State Senator Sue Errington
    errington@comcast.net or 765-282-3581

    Saturday, May 3
    Indianapolis
    2:00 – 4:00 pm
    6335 Bramshaw Rd., Indpls. 46220
    Hosted by Rebecca Crum
    For more information – Marion Wagner mrnwagner@yahoo.com; 317 435-5388

    Sunday, May 4
    Schererville
    2:00 – 4:00 PM
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    Hosted by Melissa Fadeley, Indiana NOW President era4all@comcast.net

    NOW PAC Women for Hillary in Indiana

    Kim Gandy, President, National NOW
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    Gay Bruhn, former Illinois NOW President

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  149. Like I said earlier, Brian Colon is trying to Fix a New Mexico Delegate for Obama. This is from the Las Cruces Sun News, Las Cruces, NM. So no nominations from the Floor? What sort of Democracy is this? Not much.

    Clinton backers want superdelegate runoff
    By HEATHER CLARK Associated Press Writer
    Article Launched: 05/02/2008 01:57:53 AM MDT

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.—A group of Hillary Rodham Clinton supporters, including four New Mexico superdelegates, has accused the state Democratic Party of breaking national and state party rules when it nominated a 12th superdelegate for New Mexico.
    The group, led by former state party chairman John Wertheim, is calling for a runoff election by mail to determine the state’s final superdelegate.

    The woman chosen has said she is undecided, but the Clinton group believes she is a Barack Obama supporter. They nominated their own candidate, who they think leans toward Clinton, on the floor at a state Central Committee meeting Saturday.

    “With the procedure for selecting the unpledged ad-on delegate having gone so awry, it seems best to solve the problem within the Democratic Party of New Mexico family,” the Clinton supporters wrote in a letter to state Party Chairman Brian Colon.

    Colon said Thursday the party followed both national and state party rules and will not hold a runoff election.

    “I’m the one who does the nomination. Nominations from the floor are not appropriate,” Colon said, later adding, “There won’t be a runoff by mail.”

    The squabble highlights the importance both the Clinton and Obama campaigns place on the superdelegate process in this razor-tight race. Obama now leads in the delegate count overall 1736.5 to 1602.5 for Clinton. In New Mexico, Clinton received 14 delegates to Obama’s 12.
    With the race so close, the votes of the superdelegates could come into play at the national convention this August.

    “Traditionally the unpledged add-on position, by the time it is chosen, the nominee is clear and it’s an uncontroversial thing,” Wertheim said. “This is being driven by the close contest between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.”

    State Democratic Party spokesman Josh Geise said: “Clearly, both campaigns are fighting very hard and working very hard to win over every available superdelegate.”

    The Clinton supporters have called for the party to hold a runoff election via mail between the two highest vote-getters at the Central Committee meeting: Laurie Weahkee, who was the superdelegate selected, and Heather Townsend, whom the Clinton supporters tried to nominate from the floor.

    The group also says state party rules require a runoff because none of the add-on superdelegate candidates received a majority vote. Weahkee received 35 percent of the vote, Townsend 33 percent and Charlotte Little, also nominated by Colon, got 29 percent. Three percent of voters chose other candidates, the letter said.

    But Colon ruled the votes for Townsend could not be counted, Geise said, because there was no provision in party rules for a nomination of a superdelegate candidate from the floor.

    “The delegate selection plan gives him the sole authority to nominate the delegate,” Geise said. “If she’s not nominated and can’t be elected, why would you count her votes?”

    The Clinton backers also say Democratic National Committee rules require the add-on superdelegate be nominated “in consultation with the Executive Committee” the day of the Central Committee meeting.

    However, Geise said the rules are very clear about creating agendas for meetings and what takes place at each meeting and there is no requirement for the committee to meet.

    “Nowhere does it call for a meeting,” he said.

    Colon said he “spoke to several Executive Committee members” ahead of the meeting who were supportive of his plan to nominate two uncommitted American Indian women. The party’s delegate selection plan calls for making the delegation as diverse as possible to reflect New Mexico’s population.

    Geise said those conversations between Colon and the committee members fulfilled the requirement that the committee be consulted.

    Weahkee has said she was waiting to hear from both presidential campaigns before making a decision about whom to support and planned to back the candidate whose platform she thinks best addresses American Indian issues.

    But Wertheim and other party members who signed the letter to Colon said they believe she is an Obama supporter.

    “What I witnessed at the meeting, I saw a lot of Obama people working on (Weahkee’s) campaign,” said Wertheim, who described Weahkee as a friend.

    Townsend did not return a voice message to her cell phone Thursday.

    Wertheim said that if the state party refuses to hold a runoff, Clinton supporters will use internal party procedures to resolve the matter. He was still looking into what steps could be taken.

    YOU CAN CONTACT Brian Colon and the State Dems AT THE FOLLOWING EMAILS:

    brian@nmdemocrats.org
    (505) 830 3650
    info@nmdemocrats.org
    (505) 830 3647

  150. Blue,

    I know what you mean. But the news coverage last night was awesome; between Lou, Bill-O and Nightline, she’s able to stay on message while Waffles is still out there doing what he does best . . waffling . . .

    And I also heard some of his staunchest boot-lickers say if his NC lead continues to erode (it’s now down to single digits around 7 or so) and he pulls out a victory but by smaller than expected margins, that could also be a problem for him. Cheer up! 😀 Maybe Wright will give us another gift, today. 😈

  151. ABM90

    i have a serious crush on you. let me know if you need a date to the inaugural ball.

  152. In North Carolina, a new WRAL-TV poll says that Obama’s lead has narrowed to 49 percent to 42 percent, down from double digits in most prior polling. Read here Earlier this month, Obama led by twenty-three percentage points.

  153. Basil,
    The demographics for NC are very ugly for us, I think it’s gonna take something on top of the good groove we have going to really shake it up, like a JE endorsement which I basically gave up on long ago.

    Of course, today would be the day if ever it was going to happen….

    Or the Rev going all bombastic again 🙂

  154. If Bill O’Reilly’s interview with her got huge viewership, that means a lot of people saw the real Hillary who would never otherwise have seen her.

    Very good news 🙂

  155. Yes, the part I saw was fantastic.

    She can hold her own with anyone, and enjoy it, and be charming at the same time.

  156. Some of the idiot heads last night were jabbering away about how waffles interviews were so much better, on serious, prestigious channels (eh-hemmmmm) and that HRC going on FOX wouldn’t help her in the least as Dems don’t watch those shows . . .eh-hmmmm—-

    They’ve already boarded ship for the one-way cruise down ‘Da Nile.’

    😈

  157. don’t forget, the safe havens where BO never ventures out of; nbc, msnbc, etc. he only ends up preaching to the choir. HRC has the guts to go on o’reilly’s program and speak to millions of cross-over voters and independents.

    let BO stay in his safe little crib. he and timmy russert can comfortably chat sunday in their smoking jackets sipping louis-tres cognac whilst looking down their noses at the bitter little people.

  158. I saw the Glen beck clips last night and I haveta admit, watching 3 or 4 minutes instead of 5 second sound bites did shed a better light on him, IMHO.

    Now i almost feel sorry for him coz Waffles really did toss him under the bus. What was clear about Wright’s sermons is that HE’S been the same person for years; he obviously didn’t change his perspective, his beliefs, like them or hate them he’s been true to his ideals. By comparison, Waffles ends up looking even more hypocritical and manipulative, like he just hopped on the Jerry Express for the street cred and votes.
    I can respect Wright, while not agreeing with him, but I have ZERO respect for Waffles. He’s a sociopath, a “Person of the Lie” as is those described in the book of the same name.

  159. Trying my best to stay positive, Blue, but I gotta admit it’s hard.

    This is so obviously a set-up. Why even bother with any primaries if the outcome has been pre-determined?

    HRC won Ohio, Texas, PA, looks like she’s gonna do great in Ind and NC and the SD’s are still defecting. It’s almost like Richardson’s backstabbing was a signal for the others to follow suit. And if that’s the case, it means there never was any real nomination race happening. I’m trying blue but yeah, i am so disgusted. The only satisfaction i will get if this goes down is getting in that voting booth in November and pulling the levers for the Repubs. 🙁

  160. He is a loser like Joe Andrews. He was DNC chair when Dukakis was nominated and lost. He was also a one time aide to Teddy. He is from MA I am sure BO is troting out these guys who were already in the tank.

  161. Don’t worry about Kirk. Major Garrett said, that Kirk was known to be in the Waffles camp, but the campaign is bringing him out with a flourish, to illustrate that even during this time, Waffles has support.

  162. I can’t imagine Hillary supporters ever allowing BO to steal the nomination.

    She is so close, the pundits are so scared she is going to win both IN and NC! They are starting the old tactics again, we see it before every primary, the same script over and over again. We need to start blogging even more now on websites to support Hillary and make calls!

  163. Here is a story on Joe Andrews according to Time:

    Andrew’s move, making an early bet on a frontrunner, and then jumping when it looks like that one wasn’t paying off, is easy to write off as political calculation. And it is difficult to see who will be swayed by the shifting of a cog within the party machinery. (Indeed, Andrew wasn’t all that influential, even back when he had the DNC job. A friend of mine was once seated next to a Democratic Senator at a dinner where Andrew was speaking. The Senator leaned over to her and asked, “Who’s that guy?” When my friend informed the Senator that the speaker was the chairman of his party, he whispered: “Don’t tell anyone I asked that.”)

  164. come on, guys.. our girl’s on fire. BO’s just playing his last card before his ship hits the big iceberg this tuesday. he know’s he’s screwed!

  165. We need to be more aggressive in our demand that BO to step down because of the Wright controversy…or for that matter the Rezko, Ayers connections.

  166. What’s with the handwringing?

    Hillary knocked it out of the park on O’Reilly, she’s surging in the polls.

    And all they have is some ancient DNC chairs nobody ever heard of.

  167. Call, call, call IN and NC today and this weekend. Take breaks to write/email/call SDs.

    Brian Colon’s answer (NMexico automatic delegate) to my email this a.m.

    Thank you for taking the time to drop me a note. I appreciate your guidance and look forward to having all Democrats come together for the general election.

    Best regards,
    Brian

  168. basil,
    Don’t despair. WE CAN DO THIS. These guys are nobodies…..meanwhile the gov of NC endorsed HRC. That is the big endorsement of the week. The fact that he is rolling out this ancient has beens means he doesn’t have much left.

  169. I have just read that Obama’s mantra for the weekend is going to be about the gas tax holiday (Marc Ambinder) If this is true, the one thing that ALL of us here can do (even if we don’t like to make phone calls and I admit I don’t), is to spread the word that in 2000 Obama supported the very same program when a state senator. This showed up in an AP report and TM had it up on her blog. When you read the story, it also points out that BO was looking to have it posted that he was responsible for the gas tax holiday in ILL. If this is what he is hanging his hat on, then I say those of us who are unable to go to Indiana or NC, should just send this story to everyone and every news outlet. If Lou Dobbs hasn’t talked about it, he would be a good place to start. Just a thought.

  170. alcina, plural,dedfg, clintondem, birdgal,

    thanks all for the pep talk!

    I’ve already written all Indy and NC papers, can’t make phone calls, so guess I’ll haveta contribute again.

    Ann, I was gonna comment on the Indy star but you haveta register . . .
    I don’t like registering all over the place . . .

  171. exactly….she is doing exceedingly well, look at how far she has come in a week! who cares about the sd’s already in the tank for bo.

    imagine if we really get going in the next few days how much farther we can surge ahead in the polls!

    enough bs from the bo camp!

  172. Hillary was great on Fox. I just fell off the couch, when slimey Dickie-boy, said that she did a good job.

  173. basil,
    writing sds is good now too if you can’t call……do you have the talking points from the campaign?

  174. Complaining about the gas tax holiday is going to appeal only to his latte base, IMO. And the media, which is about the same thing.

  175. I actually hesitated posting the above, because I don’t want anyone supporting cnn for their normally biased stories….but I couldn’t help that headline.

  176. Here is how she pays for it:

    “Imposing a windfall profits tax on oil companies and using the money to suspend the gas tax for the peak summer months”

    And here’s an article on the windfall profits:

    “Bolstered by winter’s record crude oil prices, Exxon Mobil yesterday reported a huge first-quarter profit and provoked new congressional vows to come up with legislation that would tax windfall profits or demonstrate concern about high gasoline prices.

    The oil giant earned $10.89 billion, up 17 percent from the previous year. The amount was short of the all-time record Exxon set in the previous quarter but high enough to put the company on the defensive in the face of consumer ire and congressional indignation.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050100908.html

  177. Contribution Details
    Date: May 02, 2008 10:56 AM EDT

    Amount: $50.44

    Matching donation brings total to $100.44.

    😀

  178. that’s right basil, I forgot that the clinton campaign is matching dollar for dollar all contributions!

  179. “I don’t want anyone supporting cnn for their normally biased stories”

    I apologize for posting a Washington Post story for the same reason, but it’s worth checking out.

  180. I hope Hillary lands more superdelegates today as to continue to prove that she has it to win the nomination as it appears the latest pattern of Obama is to try to land a superdelegate after every good news of Hillary’s.

  181. that’s the thing plural…when they do have a good story about hillary…well you have to post it! 🙂

  182. The orchestra is still playing while the Obama Titanic is sinking.

    Big weekend to GOTV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven’t seen this much good press and momentum in Hillary’s campaign, ever!!!!!!!!!! Rise Hillary Rise!!!!!!!!!!!!

  183. While in PA campaigning and doing visibility “Honk for Hillary” a man pulls up and brings up Bosnia to taunt us. My dear friend, Neetabug, replied with, “Is that all you got?”

    So, with the few super delegates that are pledging to Obama, and Hillary’s momentum, soaring numbers, favorable press, O’Reilly interview she knocked out of the park, her own endorsments, the capability to beat John McCain, the big states, electoral states, the grass roots on her side….I quote Neetabug and say to Obama’s camp, “IS THAT ALL YOU GOT?”

  184. The annoying thing is that the big front-page story about the oil profits doesn’t mention Hillary’s proposal — although it does include Chuck Schumer on the same subject.

    While the op ed turkeys are attacking her, in their usual way.

    But the story still makes her point — and is astonishing. $10,890,000,000 profit in one quarter!

  185. While campaigning in Pennsylvannia, we were doing “Honk for Hillary” visibility. A young man pulls up to taunt us with Bosnia. Our good friend Neetabug, replies, “Is that all you got?”

    Obama has some superdelegates pledging. So what? He’s tanking. Hillary has the momentum, Hillary has the endorsements, there are plenty of unpledged delegates and voters yet to have their voices heard. Hillary is favorable in all the polls to beat John McCain, Hillary has the experience. Hillary can do an O’Reilly interview and draw a huge audience and face the tough questions. Hillary will debate and blow him out of the water. Hillary is standing tough. Obama has some super delegates pledging, “Is that all you got?”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlWqW6fSYc

  186. just wanted to let you know that Fox is reporting that this last SD had been in Obama’s war chest for over 3 weeks and he is simply trotting them out to make to look like he is still getting them and is still gaining momentum! Apparently Fox is telling the truth about all these SD’s, I love it! 🙂

  187. I’m glad Hillary did the Fox interview with Bill-O, especially since his program reaches a larger audience. It may help her to garner more support, and help people to get to know her better. She was very charming, humorous and exhibited an unparalleled grasp of the issues. Of course, it gave Bill-O high ratings. Tit for Tat.

  188. Terrondt:

    *
    Friday, May 2

    *
    o 11:55 am
    o President Bush tours World Wide Technology in St. Louis, Missouri
    *
    o 12:00 pm
    o John McCain holds a town hall meeting in Denver, Colorado
    *
    o 12:15 pm
    o Hillary Clinton attends a get out the vote event at the Henderson County Courthouse in Hendersonville, North Carolina
    *
    o 12:20 pm
    o President Bush makes remarks on the economy in Maryland Heights, Missouri
    *
    o 12:30 pm
    o Barack Obama holds an economic town hall with workers in Munster, Indiana
    o Michelle Obama holds a get out the vote community event in Durham, North Carolina
    *
    o 3:30 pm
    o Hillary Clinton attends a get out the vote event in Greensboro, North Carolina
    *
    o 4:00 pm
    o Bill Clinton attends a “Solutions for America” event in Greenfield, Indiana
    *
    o 4:30 pm
    o Michelle Obama holds a get out the vote rally with Gladys Knight at the University of North Carolina in Asheville, North Carolina
    *
    o 5:30 pm
    o Barack Obama holds a get out the vote rally Charlotte, North Carolina
    o Bill Clinton attends a “Solutions for America” event in Beech Grove, Indiana
    *
    o 7:00 pm
    o Barack Obama attends the North Carolina Democratic Party’s Jefferson-Jackson dinner in Raleigh, North Carolina
    o Bill Clinton attends a “Solutions for America” event in Avon, Indiana
    *
    o 8:00 pm
    o Hillary Clinton speaks at the North Carolina Jefferson Jackson Dinner in Raleigh, North Carolina
    *
    o 8:30 pm
    o Bill Clinton attends a “Solutions for America” event in Lebanon, Indiana
    *
    o 9:00 pm
    o Hillary Clinton attends a get out the vote event in Raleigh, North Carolina

    The Page on the G

  189. from politico….

    DNC coffers dry amid flood of Dem cash

    By DAVID PAUL KUHN | 5/2/08 4:33 AM
    Despite record hauls by Obama and Clinton, DNC raises less than half amount taken in by Republican National Committee.

  190. Paul Kirk has been walking behind Ted Kennedy with a pooper scooper since Chappaquiddick. He’s head of the Kennedy Library in Boston.

  191. Gov. Ted Strickland is going to Columbus this weekend to campaign for Hillary Clinton. Columbus, Indiana, that is.

    Strickland, who has endorsed Clinton and campaigned for her in Iowa, Pennsylvania and elsewhere, is scheduled to spend Saturday in the Hoosier state, Clinton said.

    Besides the 9:30 a.m. get-out-the-vote event in Columbus, Strickland is expected to attend a noon event in Andersoon and a 2 p.m. even in Richmond before returning to Ohio.

    Source: The Columbus Dispatch
    h t t p://blog.dispatch.com/dailybriefing/2008/05/strickland_heads_to_hoosier_st.shtml

  192. Ann, thanks for emailing th NM State Democratic Chair.

    You people get me throught the Day. I think the continued SDs endorsing really shows how strange our Democracy can be.

    Boston Legal really brought it home in Spades. A SDs vote is worth thousands more than a regular persons vote. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN IN A DEMOCRACY. Because the Democratic Party decided the voters should not have the final say. The video they showed of Howard Dean really takes you back. How did we let him start leading the party?

    We did not go to the Wall in 2000 over Florida. IT IS TIME THAT WE GO TO THE WALL FOR HILLARY CLINTON AND TH 2008 ELECTION.

  193. The Indy star is the most widely read paper in IN, which I believe, is the paper that endorsed Hillary today.

  194. Indy Star by far in Indiana.

    In NC, it’s the Charlotte Observer followed not too far back by the Raleigh News & Observer. These papers serve the two biggest markets: Charlotte and the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill “Research Triangle” metro area.

    NC is more like Florida or Pennsylvania where you have several distinct regions.

  195. The great thing about Paul Kirk’s job walking behind the Chappaquiddick Kid and scooping up his messes is that you are never in any danger of running out of work.

    It’s just amazing to me that the Democratic Party is STILL letting these idiots lose elections for them. I mean, Dukakis and Kerry weren’t enough? My god.

  196. Harmful, Divisive And Fallacious Petition From Color Of Change
    By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Fri May 02, 2008 at 08:12:05 AM EST
    Tags: (all tags) Share This:
    Color of Change is circulating an outrageous, deplorable and fallacious petition:

    Leaders of the Democratic Party are playing a dangerous game — risking the credibility of the party to hand Hillary Clinton the nomination against the will of voters. Heading down this path means disenfranchising millions of voters and legitimizing a campaign strategy that has displayed a clear pattern of race baiting and divisive politics.
    If Hillary Clinton wins the popular vote and the Super Delegates hand the nomination to Barack Obama, the Democratic Party will have acted against the will of the voters. Despite that, I would whole heartedly support Barack Obama’s candidacy in November. In addition, Color of Change falsely smears the Clinton campaign while engaging in race baiting and divisive politics itself. Color of Change smears not only Hillary Clinton, but the millions of Democrats who support her.

    As a Latino, I denounce and reject Color of Change’s petition. It is an outrageous, divisive, racially polarizing and deplorable act. At a time when all Democrats should be thinking about unifying the democratic Party behind our eventual nominee, who in all likelihood will be Barack Obama, Color of Change acts to exacerbate divisions. This petition hurts the Democratic Party and it hurts Barack Obama’s chances to win in November. Color of Change’s petititon should be rejected by Democrats of all stripes.

    By Big Tent Democrat, speaking for me only.

    http://www.talkleft.com/

  197. Rasmussen: 58% Say Obama Tossed Wright For Political Reasons
    By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:22:00 AM EST
    Tags: Barack Obama, Jeremiah Wright (all tags) Share This:
    A new Rasmussen poll is out:

    A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 30% of the nation’s Likely Voters believe Barack Obama denounced his former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, because he was outraged. Most—58%–say he denounced the Pastor for political convenience. The survey was conducted on Wednesday and Thursday night. Obama made his statements about Wright on Tuesday.
    http://www.talkleft.com/

  198. 58% Say Obama Denounced Wright for Political Convenience, not Outrage

    Friday, May 02, 2008
    A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 30% of the nation’s Likely Voters believe Barack Obama denounced his former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, because he was outraged. Most—58%–say he denounced the Pastor for political convenience. The survey was conducted on Wednesday and Thursday night. Obama made his statements about Wright on Tuesday.

    Wright held a mini-media tour last weekend capped by a press conference at the National Press Club on Monday. Only 33% of voters believe that Obama was surprised by the views Wright expressed at Monday’s press conference. Fifty-two percent (52%) say he was not surprised.

    Fifty-six percent (56%) say it’s at least somewhat likely that Obama “shares some of Pastor Wright’s controversial views about the United States.” That figure includes 26% who say it’s Very Likely Obama holds such views. At the other end of the spectrum 24% say it’s Not Very Likely that Obama shares such views. Just 11% say it’s Not at All Likely.

    Just 7% of the nation’s voters agree with Wright’s views of the United States. African-American voters, by a 64% to 12% margin, disagree with Wright. Eighty-one percent (81%) of all voters are following the story somewhat or very closely.

    Nine percent (9%) of voters have a favorable opinion of Wright. Eight-one percent (81%) have an unfavorable view. That includes 62% with a Very Unfavorable opinion.

    As you would expect, there are strong partisan differences on these questions. Generally, Democrats are divided while Republicans take a less charitable view of Obama.

    Seventy-four percent (74%) of Republicans believe it’s somewhat or very likely that Obama shares some of Wright’s views. That assessment is shared by 48% of Democrats and 49% of those not affiliated with either major party.

    Democrats are evenly divided as to whether or not Obama was surprised by Wright’s comments on Monday. Republicans overwhelmingly reject that notion. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 36% say Obama was surprised while 45% disagree.

    Just 36% of Democrats believe outrage was the motivation for Obama to denounce his former Pastor. That view is shared by 38% of unaffiliated voters and 16% of Republicans.

    See survey questions and toplines. Crosstabs available for Premium Members only.

    Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information.

    The Rasmussen Reports ElectionEdge™ Premium Service for Election 2008 offers the most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a Presidential election.

    Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, has been an independent pollster for more than a decade.

  199. LETS GO AND DESIGN T-SHIRTS
    Your Ideas
    by Chelsea Clinton5/2/2008 11:44:34 AMOne of the most fun things about meeting people who support my mom’s campaign is seeing all the creative ways they show their support. I’ve seen a lot of homemade signs, buttons, and shirts on the campaign trail, and I think we need to harness that great creative energy for our campaign.

    So today, I’d like to announce the launch of Project T-Shirt, a contest to design the next great t-shirt for my mom’s campaign.

    I know you agree with me that my mom is the strongest, most progressive, and most prepared candidate, and that she would be the best president! This is a great way for you to show exactly what her historic campaign means to you.

    Maybe you’ve got a slogan that you’ve been dying to share. Or maybe you want to share your design talents. Whatever your ideas are, I can’t wait to see them — and we’ll offer the best shirt for sale in the official campaign store, raising money to help my mom win! I’ll also make sure to get a picture of me AND my mom wearing the shirt, which we will post on the website.

    So please put on your thinking caps, get those creative juices flowing, and visit our Project T-Shirt website to learn more and submit your design.

    Please click here to get started.

    I’m so excited to see all the great ideas you have. Thank you so much for all you’re doing to help my mom win!

    Go Hillary!

  200. Obama Woos Republicans in Indiana
    Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign “is applying a grass-roots organizational zeal to courting Republicans” in Indiana, “much as it has done for younger voters in previous contests,” according to the Wall Street Journal.

    Later today, Obama’s campaign “will introduce three prominent Republicans who are supporting the campaign: John Clark, a top aide to Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels, who is running unopposed in the primary; William Ruckelshaus, a former Nixon administration lawyer whose family has deep ties to the state; and Jim Benham, president of the state’s National Farmers Union.”

    http://tinyurl.com/6px4pk

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    and they criticize Hillary for going on Fox?!

  201. thanks shenanigans for hillary’s schedule. it seems she and bill are swapping between states. tagteaming indiana and nc. good idea.

  202. NewMexicoFAn,

    It’s the SDs who are saving our ass! The problem is all the caucuses, where maybe 1 in 10 of voters turns out and gets disproportionate power.

    In Obama’s little red states, hardly anyone ever votes Dem except the latte liberals and the students. They have caucus locations near the university. So that minority of losers controls the caucuses and elects the delegates for the whole state — and the whole state is going to vote GOP in Nov anyway.

    The only thing that’s saving us from those red state delegates is the Superdelegates. Many of the SDs are governonrs, congressmen, etc — people who have actually won elections recently and are in touch with the public in their own states.

    Also the SDs don’t actually vote till August, so they will have full information: whatever happens with Wright, Rezko, etc, whatever other blunders Obama makes this summer, what the polls show about who can beat McCain, etc. Some of them who are speaking for Obama now may be just bowing to pressure, but after he polls get worse for him, they can switch to Hillary in August.

    Many SDs have spoken for Hillary already, others are keeping quiet till they know more, and will have more influence.

    Another problem is Big Media, who make it LOOK like Obama is still gaining SDs, by reporting those he has in the tank and ignoring those who endorse for Hillary.

  203. I SAW IT ON TAYLORMARSH WRITTEN BY SOMEONE,,I LIKED IT …SO POSTING IT HERE

    THE HILLARY PLEDGE…

    I promise not to believe the polls and the trolls who are constantly quoting the “AA” vote as if we are another species.

    I promise to not believe a word from the other candidates campaign unless I recieve a memo from Senator Clinton authorizing me to.

    I promise to stay motivated and dedicated to ensuring that Senator Clintons next new address has “Pennslyvania Ave” somewhere in it.

    I promise to spend my weekend ensuring Senator Clintons name is somewhere in a sentence towards anyone I am talking to.

    I promise to make sure Senator Obama works really really hard if he wants my state of North Carolina.

    I promise to stay in combat mode for my future Commander in Chief. So trolls watch what you say and watch how you say it.

    This is make it or break it, the tide before the storm. No more freebies. They can get on for the ride or get run over.I am stalking and watching, looking and listening, plotting and planning. Yes, this is battle mode. It goes off when Senator Clinton is in the White House.

  204. 1950Democrat

    Thanks for the boost. I guess we will just have to await the outcome on this one. I appreciate the response.

  205. NewMexico,

    I forgot. The way the delegate system is set up, one unemployed macho kid in a little red state who goes to the caucus, has more power than THOUSANDS of voters in California who vote in the CA primary.

    The Superdelegates have at least done SOMETHING, and seen something of the world, before they got elected as governor or congressman or whatever.

  206. New Rasmussen poll has Hillary only down 9 in NC. She’s shaved 5 points off that lead in less than a week.

    rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/state_toplines/north_carolina/toplines_north_carolina_democratic_primary_may_1_2008

  207. Who the hell are these people?

    “Some leaders in the Democratic Party are playing with fire. They think that they can betray the will of millions of voters and choose Hillary Clinton as the nominee, regardless of whether or not she is the choice of the voters. We can’t let this happen. It would be the largest disenfranchisement in modern history, and it would mean the Democratic Party giving their stamp of approval to a clear and consistent pattern of race-baiting by the Clinton campaign.

    If we make our voices heard, we can stop it. Please join us in signing an open letter to leaders in the Democratic Party — DNC Chair Howard Dean, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and all superdelegates — demanding that they reject an outcome that involves trampling voting rights and legitimizing the politics of division and fear:

    http://colorofchange.org/dems/?id=2261-528092

    By the time the last vote is cast on June 3rd under the rules of the Democratic Party, it’s unlikely Hillary Clinton will beat Barack Obama among voters.1 But there’s a chance that superdelegates will hand Clinton the nomination anyway.

    This would be a shocking attack on democracy, and it would destroy the Democratic Party’s credibility on protecting the right to vote. Black people have a long history of fighting against voter suppression, and now the Democratic Party will be the enemy in that fight. As bad as that would be, there’s another reason that a coup by party insiders would threaten racial progress.

    Senator Clinton’s plan to have superdelegates hand her the nomination relies on a parallel strategy — she has to stoke enough division and race-based fear among Democratic voters to convince superdelegates that white voters will not vote for Senator Obama in the general election.2 One of Clinton’s key arguments to superdelegates is that America won’t elect a Black man, and therefore she’s the better choice for Democrats to beat John McCain.3,4 While she makes that argument in private to superdelegates, in public, Clinton’s campaign and her surrogates are doing everything they can to damage Barack Obama by ginning up fear and division and playing to the worst instincts of our society. It’s an insult to Black people and all Americans, Obama and Clinton supporters alike.

    The pattern has been clear and consistent to some party leaders. Last week, according to the Washington Post, James Clyburn — who as House Majority Whip remains neutral and is the highest ranking Black member of Congress — accused the Clintons of marginalizing Black voters.5 Referring to this strategy in another interview, Clyburn said that “Nothing in this campaign has been by accident.”6

    Congressman Clyburn warned that “black people are incensed” over the divisiveness of the Clinton strategy and that it threatens an irreparable breach between Black people and the Democratic Party.7 He’s right. And if superdelegates hand Clinton a victory despite her defeat among voters, they will be condoning and rewarding that strategy.

    Some party leaders have expressed strong concern about superdelegates overruling voters.8,9 But as a whole, superdelegates have not made it clear that they will respect the will of voters. Today, we want to send a clear, unequivocal message to superdelegates and other party leaders: Reject the idea that the nomination can be won with a strategy that preys on racism, sows division, and disenfranchises millions of voters.

    Please join us:

    colorofchange.org/dems/?id=2261-528092

    — James, Van, Gabriel, Clarissa, Mervyn, Andre, and the rest of the ColorOfChange.org team
    May 2nd, 2008 ”

    I got this email an I am in SHOCK! Who are these people and how can they get away with this?

  208. I just got a phone call from a hillary supporter wanting a donation to add to the ones I had already given. He was very nice and was from Illinois! He asked me if I was a democrat and I said yes, but that depends on the way things go for Hillary, Florida and Michigan. I might not be one. He just laughed and said ” well lets just wait and see what happens”. He was nice. He is sending me a plege card.

  209. We need to talk up that Hillary now HAS the popular vote lead! Media talk as though Obama still had it.

    Popular Vote Gives Clinton An Edge
    Michael Barone 4/28/2008
    One thing many people haven’t noticed about Hillary Clinton’s 55 percent to 45 percent victory over Barack Obama in the Pennsylvania primary is that it put her ahead of Obama in the popular vote. Her 214,000-vote margin in the Keystone State means that she has won the votes, in primaries and caucuses, of 15,112,000 Americans, compared to 14,993,000 for Obama.

    If you add in the votes, as estimated by the folks at realclearpolitics.com, in the Iowa, Nevada, Washington and Maine caucuses, where state Democratic parties did not count the number of caucus-attenders, Clinton still has a lead of 12,000 votes.

    Moreover, she may be able to maintain that lead, despite an expected Obama victory in North Carolina on May 6, by rolling up big popular vote margins in West Virginia on May 13, Kentucky on May 20 and Puerto Rico on June 1. So it’s likely that Clinton will be able to argue that undecided super-delegates should heed the will of the people.

  210. Eeew! I looked over at the dark side (Du and dailykooks) they are really trying the race baiting!

  211. This should be shouted from the rooftops all across the country. Bhos audacity of hope. He writes. I will stand with the Musllims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. THIS IS IN HIS BOOK. Pls notify news outlets immediately. At work on blackberry

  212. curiosityhasme : please what page is it in the book
    Bhos audacity of hope. “…He writes. I will stand with the Musllims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction”

  213. The actual quote from the book is from page 261 and is as follows: “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    I actually know what he is saying here, and don’t think this is reason to be alarmed. But that is just me.

  214. Well, I see that other people are clearly concerned about that line in his book. There are 896 results for that exact phrase in google; it appears the right is heavily promoting this meme.

  215. Interesting: salmon fishing has been banned all across the west coast, for the first time in 160 years. Oregon, which has an upcoming primary, will be hit hard economically. This is a good opportunity for Hillary to take the lead and develop policy proposals to help the region:

    —-
    From sfgate.com:

    Salmon fishing was banned along the West Coast for the first time in 160 years Thursday, a decision that is expected to have a devastating economic impact on fishermen, dozens of businesses, tourism and boating.

    Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez immediately declared a commercial fishery disaster, opening the door for Congress to appropriate money for anyone who will be economically harmed.

    The closure of commercial and recreational fishing for chinook salmon in the ocean off California and most of Oregon was announced by the National Marine Fishery Service.

    It followed the recommendation last month of the Pacific Fishery Management Council after the catastrophic disappearance of California’s fabled fall run of the pink fish popularly known as king salmon.

  216. More problems for the DNC and their disenfranchiser-in-chief, Howie Dean:

    POLITICO.COM:

    In an election year marked by jaw-dropping Democratic fundraising, one key political player isn’t so flush: The Democratic National Committee.

    Despite record hauls by Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the DNC has raised less than half the amount taken in by the Republican National Committee.

    According to the latest Federal Election Commission reports filed through the end of March, the RNC had $31 million in cash on hand, while the DNC had only $5.3 million. The RNC has raised $36.5 million this year, while the DNC has raised $17.7 million.

    The story was equally grim in 2007, when the RNC raised a total of $83 million to the DNC’s $50 million.
    “The general election has started; we should be raising $15 million a month,” said one senior DNC official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The committee is raising less than $6 million each month.

  217. Perhaps when they realize that Michigan and Florida voters and other Democrats around the country WILL NOT fund the DNC until the VOTES are counted and every person heard. Travesty.

  218. Who the hell are these people?

    “Some leaders in the Democratic Party are playing with fire. They think that they can betray the will of millions of voters and choose Hillary Clinton as the nominee, regardless of whether or not she is the choice of the voters. We can’t let this happen. It would be the largest disenfranchisement in modern history, and it would mean the Democratic Party giving their stamp of approval to a clear and consistent pattern of race-baiting by the Clinton campaign.

    If we make our voices heard, we can stop it. Please join us in signing an open letter to leaders in the Democratic Party — DNC Chair Howard Dean, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and all superdelegates — demanding that they reject an outcome that involves trampling voting rights and legitimizing the politics of division and fear:

    colorofchange.org/dems/?id=2261-528092

    By the time the last vote is cast on June 3rd under the rules of the Democratic Party, it’s unlikely Hillary Clinton will beat Barack Obama among voters.1 But there’s a chance that superdelegates will hand Clinton the nomination anyway.

    This would be a shocking attack on democracy, and it would destroy the Democratic Party’s credibility on protecting the right to vote. Black people have a long history of fighting against voter suppression, and now the Democratic Party will be the enemy in that fight. As bad as that would be, there’s another reason that a coup by party insiders would threaten racial progress.

    Senator Clinton’s plan to have superdelegates hand her the nomination relies on a parallel strategy — she has to stoke enough division and race-based fear among Democratic voters to convince superdelegates that white voters will not vote for Senator Obama in the general election.2 One of Clinton’s key arguments to superdelegates is that America won’t elect a Black man, and therefore she’s the better choice for Democrats to beat John McCain.3,4 While she makes that argument in private to superdelegates, in public, Clinton’s campaign and her surrogates are doing everything they can to damage Barack Obama by ginning up fear and division and playing to the worst instincts of our society. It’s an insult to Black people and all Americans, Obama and Clinton supporters alike.

    The pattern has been clear and consistent to some party leaders. Last week, according to the Washington Post, James Clyburn — who as House Majority Whip remains neutral and is the highest ranking Black member of Congress — accused the Clintons of marginalizing Black voters.5 Referring to this strategy in another interview, Clyburn said that “Nothing in this campaign has been by accident.”6

    Congressman Clyburn warned that “black people are incensed” over the divisiveness of the Clinton strategy and that it threatens an irreparable breach between Black people and the Democratic Party.7 He’s right. And if superdelegates hand Clinton a victory despite her defeat among voters, they will be condoning and rewarding that strategy.

    Some party leaders have expressed strong concern about superdelegates overruling voters.8,9 But as a whole, superdelegates have not made it clear that they will respect the will of voters. Today, we want to send a clear, unequivocal message to superdelegates and other party leaders: Reject the idea that the nomination can be won with a strategy that preys on racism, sows division, and disenfranchises millions of voters.

    Please join us:

    colorofchange.org/dems/?id=2261-528092

    — James, Van, Gabriel, Clarissa, Mervyn, Andre, and the rest of the ColorOfChange.org team
    May 2nd, 2008 ”

    I got this email an I am in SHOCK! Who are these people and how can they get away with this?

  219. well, maybe we should remind them that they have no problem disenfranchising millions in florida and michigan…

    WHATS UP WITH THAT?
    WE SHOULD DO A PETITION CALLED COLOR OF TRUTH…

  220. Neither candidate can win without the vote of the SDs, these people are race-baiting and trying to stir up s***.

  221. Your Obama quote-of-the-day:

    “I think the American voters don’t want a whole bunch of drama.” – Barack Obama 5/2/08

    LOL! You bet we don’t!

  222. I guess, they are not counting the popular votes of MI and FL. Talk about disenfranchising the voter rights of 2.3 million voters, but I guess that is okay, because without those votes, Waffles is still ahead.

  223. Berkeley Vox Says:

    May 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    Your Obama quote-of-the-day:

    “I think the American voters don’t want a whole bunch of drama.” – Barack Obama 5/2/08

    Well, maybe he should consent to a MI revote and count the Florida votes.

  224. More ridiculous comments from Obama today, proving that his campaign is slow-to-respond to pitfalls and problems:

    “I do think one of the ironies of the past two or three weeks is this idea that Michelle and I are elitist, intellectual pointy-head types. The fact is our lives more closely approximate the lives of the average voters than any of the other candidates,” he said. “We didn’t recognize the caricature that was being painted of us over the last couple of weeks.”

  225. TheRealist,
    I think Color of Change is just a website for “progressive” african americans. Sort of like a DailyKos for black people online. They don’t have any actual power so I wouldn’t worry about it.

  226. well he and his militant acting wife and church leader sure don”t look like the “average” person I know.

  227. This quote from MO over a month ago tells you just how truly out of touch the elitst Obama snobs are with the real world:

    “I know we’re spending — I added it up for the first time — we spend between the two kids, on extracurriculars outside the classroom, we’re spending about $10,000 a year on piano and dance and sports supplements and so on and so forth,” Mrs. Obama tells the women. “And summer programs. That’s the other huge cost. Barack is saying, ‘Whyyyyyy are we spending that?’ And I’m saying, ‘Do you know what summer camp costs?’”

    here in Muskingum County, where, according to the census, the median household income in 2004 was $37,192, below both the Ohio and national average

    Source:
    article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmEyN2RkNzcwYzgyZDY2MDBiY2U5MjJlZGMwNDM2ODg=

  228. Brilliant move by Hillary here — the polls show Americans are OVERWHELMINGLY in favor of federal help to reduce gas prices, and Hillary is listening:

    ——-
    May 2, 2008, 1:17 pm
    Clinton Presses on Gas Tax Holiday

    By Patrick Healy

    KINSTON, N.C. -– Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s decision to take on members of Congress over her proposal for a federal gas tax holiday this summer -– “are they with us or against us” –- is tempting fate a bit, as she risks antagonizing uncommitted superdelegates who are members of Congress and who oppose the tax holiday.

    Obama advisers say they believe Mrs. Clinton may be overplaying her hand on the tax issue; while it may sound good to voters in Tuesday’s primaries in Indiana and North Carolina, it may drive a wedge between her and the superdelegates she is trying to win over in her nomination fight against Senator Barack Obama.

    Here was her comment at a rally in Jeffersonville, Indiana, on Thursday evening:

    “I believe it is important to get every member of Congress on the record. Do they stand with hard pressed Americans who are trying to pay their gas bills at the gas station or do they once again stand with the big oil companies? That’s a vote I’m going to try to get, because I want to know where they stand and I want them to tell us – are they with us or against us?”

    Congressional Democrats say they highly doubt anyone will cave on their opposition to the gas tax simply because of Mrs. Clinton’s rhetoric -– especially given many superdelegates on the Hill who already support Mrs. Clinton are standing their ground.

    One of them, Senator Patty Murray of Washington State, said through a spokeswoman that she remained steadfast against a tax holiday. Senator Murray is concerned that the holiday would lead to a loss of revenue for highway infrastructure projects, which depend on the gas tax.

    “I also have a major concern that this idea won’t provide real relief to consumers,” Senator Murray said through her spokeswoman, Alex Glass.

    Ms. Glass said that the senator was not especially moved by Mrs. Clinton’s with-us-or-against-us rhetoric.

    “It’s campaign season,” Ms. Glass said. “Senator Murray’s support for Senator Clinton is unrelated to Senator Clinton’s position on this issue.”

    Mrs. Clinton introduced legislation in the Senate today proposing the gas tax holiday and covering the cost of it through a “windfall profits” tax on oil companies, a campaign spokesman said.

  229. From the last paragraph of the letter Color of Change is pushing from its web-site:

    “The voters who have come out in record numbers to participate in the Democratic Party won’t allow this to happen, and as the most visible leaders of the party, you must reject the idea that the nomination can be won with a strategy that preys on racism, sows division, and disenfranchises millions of voters.”

    If they truly believe that, then the SDs should vote for HILLARY.

  230. The obama camp is the ones who are happy to ignore Florida and Michigan. The voters will remember in November.
    .I know I would

  231. hillfans, i come here, taylor marsh, talk left, no quarter, sugar n spice, hillaryclinton.com, and politics1.com. i do have a account on daily kos, mydd, and mccain’s website(post time to time) but i rarely go on those sites. oh, huffington post also but have not posted on that in months.

  232. Of course they want to ignore MI and FL without them all that is needed is 2024 and he is less than 300 delegates away from the nomination with Hillary over 400 away. With FL and MI counted the nominee needs 2208 delegates to win putting him at around 410 away and Hillary about 410 away.

  233. Clinton: Tuesday Will Be a ‘Game Changer’
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    Share May 02, 2008 11:12 AM

    ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: Senator Hillary Clinton speaking in Kinston, NC said that Tuesday’s primary will be a big day in the contest for the Democratic nomination. Clinton has denied in interviews and in press availabilities that she will drop out of the race if she loses Indiana. Today, Clinton stressed the importance of the North Carolina contest.

    “This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country – probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides.”

    Speaking at a John Deere sales center, the New York Senator stressed the importance of creating jobs, criticizing those who say the current jobs numbers are a good indication.

    “You know we lost 20,000 jobs last month and people are saying well that’s better than we thought. Well, I don’t accept that at all. We’re not supposed to be losing jobs in America we’re supposed to be creating jobs in America. So losing 20,000 jobs isn’t exactly a welcome piece of information. We need to change our tax code which I will do. There’s not going to be one penny of your tax dollars that goes to any company that takes a job out of North Carolina and moves it to a foreign company.”

    Clinton continued to praise the gax tax holiday and criticized her opponents for their positions. The former First Lady has five stops in North Carolina today, continuing her marathon sprint around the Tar Heel state leading up to Tuesday.

  234. She’s cut severely into his double digit lead down to single digits, which most pundits say is pretty remarkable.

  235. Ask not what Hillary can do for you
    but what you can do for Hillary!

    Please, everyone….call, blog, donate…. do whatever you can do to help!!!

    We’re in it to WIN it!!!!

  236. yes-May 2, 2008

    Dear Fellow Democratic Party Member:

    Democratic National Committee members work tirelessly to elect Democrats locally, and they serve as strong advocates for finding solutions to our nation’s most pressing problems. As former DNC Chairs, we are proud to be leaders in a Party that seeks to alleviate the burden of limited access to health care, fix broken systems of public education, improve working conditions for middle-class men and women, and ensure America’s safety and security, at home and abroad.

    Those of us who support Hillary Clinton for president do so with the knowledge that she, just like us, has dedicated her life to improving the standard of living for others, and she has worked to make our Party the strong force that it is today. Her values are our Party’s values. Her record of fiscal prudence is matched by her commitment to social responsibility. Her accomplishments in the area of strengthening America’s security are a matter of public record.

    Hillary has run one of the most formidable campaigns in the history of our Party. Her wins this primary season are significant – Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas. Her base of support includes women, Hispanics, seniors, Catholics, middle and low income Americans, and rural, suburban and urban voters. That’s a formidable coalition tailor-made for victory in a November general election.

    In fact, if the election were held today, Hillary would beat Senator McCain, but Senator Obama would lose to the presumptive GOP nominee. According to the most recent polls available, Hillary would beat McCain by a margin of 279 to 259 Electoral Votes. But McCain would beat Obama by a margin of 291 to 247 Electoral Votes.

    In a hypothetical general election matchup with McCain, Clinton is winning handily (50%-41%) while Obama is statistically tied with McCain (46%-44%), according to the AP-Ipsos poll released Monday. In the days following the Pennsylvania primary, Gallup Poll Daily tracking showed Hillary pulling even with Senator Obama. As of Thursday, Hillary was ahead 49%-45%.

    Hillary can win our Party’s nomination. She is neck and neck with her opponent in Indiana and North Carolina. Both states have sizeable voting blocs that resemble constituencies who supported Hillary by large margins in Pennsylvania, Ohio and other contests.

    Years of job loss and the recent economic slowdown mean that most Indiana and North Carolina voters are more concerned about the economy than anything else. Hillary has consistently garnered the majority of support from voters who say the economy is the most important issue facing our country.

    Hillary’s campaign is currently operating at full capacity in Guam, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota.

    As in states that have already voted, election official are expecting record turnouts. Pennsylvania registered more than 215,000 new voters ahead of its April 22 primary. More than 200,000 new voters have registered in Indiana since the start of the year. And in counties across North Carolina, registration numbers are double – or triple – what they were in 2004.

    More than 30 million Americans have already cast a ballot in our Party’s nomination contest and millions more will go to the polls between now and June 3. The record numbers of Americans who are registering and coming out to vote reflect the excitement about our candidates and the strength that our nominee will have behind him or her in the fall. The primary process will make our nominee stronger and better prepared to take on John McCain. Our Party only gains from having more voters – including more new voters – all across our country.

    We encourage you to continue to fully consider Hillary Clinton and the fact that she is qualified and accomplished. Too much is at stake for us not to consider deeply the choice we must make for our Party and our country.

    Sincerely,

    Kenneth Curtis

    Former DNC Chairman (1977-1978)

    Charles Manatt

    Former DNC Chairman (1981-1985)

    The Family of the late Ron Brown

    Former DNC Chairman (1989-1993)

    Mrs. Alma Brown, Michael Arrington Brown & Tracey Brown James

    Debra DeLee

    Former DNC Chair (1994-1995)

    Don Fowler

    Former DNC National Chairman (1995-1997)

    Steve Grossman

    Former DNC National Chairman (1997-1999)

    Governor Edward Rendell

    Former DNC General Chairman (1999-2001)

    Terence McAuliffe

    Former DNC Chairman (2001-2005)

  237. People – Hillary knows something. She would not be throwing down the gauntlet like this if she wasn’t feeling very confident about NC. She echoes the confidence of the NC Gov and Harold Ickes on their Finance Committee call yesterday. I think we are going to pull a major upset in NC. Light a candle, send in money, canvass, make calls, pray if you are so inclined – we are taking this bad boy in for a landing.

    ““This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country – probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides.”

  238. Some interesting FOX stats. Suck on these numbers, BM!

    In any given hour, nearly one million viewers are watching Fox News, compared with about 600,000 for CNN and 380,000 for MSNBC. 1
    The first part of the(O’Reilly-HRC) interview set a year-to-date viewership record for “The O’Reilly Factor,” according to Nielsen Media Research, with 3.66 million people tuning in, about one million above average.
    Dems new openness to Fox reflects the liberal left’s diminishing power, at least at this point in the political cycle. Once feared by the Democratic candidates, these activists are now viewed at least in part as an impediment to winning the broad swatch of support needed to clinch the nomination.

  239. This is MAJOR. Hillary would not be raising the bar like this if she didn’t have very strong internals in NC.

    ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: Senator Hillary Clinton speaking in Kinston, NC said that Tuesday’s primary will be a big day in the contest for the Democratic nomination. Clinton has denied in interviews and in press availabilities that she will drop out of the race if she loses Indiana. Today, Clinton stressed the importance of the North Carolina contest.

    “This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country – probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides.”

  240. Well MSNBC has fallen out of the top 30 ranking and CNN keeps sinking like a rock as well. Wouldn’t you think the ratings would tell them something.

    The anchorettes at CNN and MSNBC should be given pompoms with BO on them to shake every couple minutes…

  241. “The anchorettes at CNN and MSNBC should be given pompoms with BO on them to shake every couple minutes…”

    Dot, LOL. No kidding.

  242. Former Dem Party Chairs Pen Pro-Clinton Letter
    By Dan Balz
    Stung by the defection of a former chairman of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton’s campaign struck back Friday with a letter from a group of former party chairs arguing that she has a better chance to defeat John McCain than does Barack Obama and urging superdelegates to support her.

    The letter, which was addressed to members of the Democratic National Committee, came a day after former party chair Joe Andrew, who led the DNC during the Clinton presidency, switched his support from Clinton to Obama. Andrew said it was time to bring the nomination battle to a close to avoid damaging the party’s chances of winning in November.

    The letter came hours after the Obama campaign announced that another former DNC chair, Paul G. Kirk Jr., had endorsed the Illinois senator. Kirk’s support, however, has been public since February and he was included on the Associated Press list of committed superdelegates.

    The new letter pointed to Clinton’s victories in some of the nation’s biggest states as evidence of her broad appeal and said she has demonstrated the kind of support critical to winning a general election.

    “Her base of support includes women, Hispanics, seniors, Catholics, middle and low income Americans, and rural, suburban and urban voters,” the former party leaders said. “That’s a formidable coalition tailor-made for victory in a November general election.”

    The signatories, all previously announced Clinton supporters, were: Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell, Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe, Don Fowler, Kenneth Curtis, Charles Manatt, Debra DeLee, Steven Grossman and the family of the late Ron Brown.

    “Hillary can win our party’s nomination,” the former leaders wrote. She is neck and neck with her opponent in Indiana and North Carolina. Both states have sizable voting blocs that resemble constituencies who supported Hillary by large margins in Pennsylvania, Ohio and other contests.”

    The letter concluded with an understated appeal: “We encourage you to continue to fully consider Hillary Clinton and the fact that she is qualified and accomplished. Too much is at stake for us not to consider deeply the choice we must make for our Party and our country.”

    blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/02/former_dem_party_chairs_pen_pr.html

  243. hillfans, i just left a comment on huffington post on the andrew turncoat. watch the nutkooks go after me.lol first comment there in months. hell with them.

  244. mj wrote:

    Ok, so now BO is running an ad w/his tax holiday opposition. Why?
    —–

    Because he is an egomaniac and has been suckered into this debate by the Clinton campaign. Polls OVERWHELMINGLY show that Americans want to see gas prices reduced and they support federal action. If Obama wants to try and be “too cute by half” by making ivory-tower academic arguments about why gas prices should be increased, then hey, knock yourself out David Axelrod. We’ll see who wins this little skirmish. Muhahaha!

  245. Funny line from ARG:

    Leahy’s Law

    It would seem that by now the chief strategists of the Obama campaign would understand that spending more money on advertising that does not work will not increase the effectiveness of that advertising with targeted voters.

    But with advice like this to keep spending the money, perhaps not.

    –Dick Bennett

  246. Hi everybody, i am here in South Bend Ind. Getting mixed responses on the phones. The great news is i have talked to some AA men on the phone they are for Hillary Will canvas tomorrow

  247. Neetabug, let us know how things are going in South Bend after you canvass. Thanks for all you are doing.

  248. The next 5 days are THE most important days left in this campaign (at least for now). Anybody who cares about Hillary and her chances to win, this is the time to act. Donations and calls to SuperD’s are great, but it’s really time to work the heck out of North Carolina and Indiana newspaper sites, blogs, media outlets and phone banks. This is it; this is our last best chance to make sure that this contest gets to Denver (or else Barack is forced to quit the contest after being humiliated in the Black Belt state of North Carolina).

    If you lurk on this site and you have been waiting for an opportunity to contribute here or in some other way to Hillary’s efforts, now is your time. There is no time to waste, and no way of overstating the criticalness of the next five days to the outcome of this Democratic nomination race.

    The DNC and Obama’s campaign knows this as well. That is why they had Ofraudma and Michelle go on the in-the-tank NBC Networks’ Today show and why BaCrock will be appearing on Meet the Punk with “Lil Rus” Tim Stoop Russert.

    This is also why Pelosi, Dean and the DNC is trying like hell to push SD’s to come out and back BaCrock now. You can be assured that more of this will continue in the next few days as they try to influence the voters in NC and IN to vote for their Golden Calf Candidate. Similarly, it is why Mr. “I kicked Alice Palmer off the ballot in 1996, that’s right, the same Alice Palmer who once had groomed me to be her successor and is now campaigning for Hillary Clinton”) Ofraudma (AKA the guy who brags he is “an election lawyer”) is trying to take down the 527 who is opposing him in NC and IN.

    In summary: This is now an all-out sprint to the finish for the 2 Tuesday elections. Anything anyone who is for Hillary and/or against Barack can do now, this is the time to fire your volley, so to speak. There is no more time for holding back or else it will be too late.

    We have ALL the momentum; every SINGLE poll (even the BS NBC “let’s try to influence and not record public opinion” poll shows the straight-up flight away from BaCrock) reflects this [Chuck Todd, you are a farce]. Travis Childers, Dem Congressional candidate in MS, is running ads SPECIFICALLY to distance himself from the toxic Ofraudma. The NC, MS and LA state GOP parties are either running or preparing to run ads against Obama as we speak (and these efforts are drawing tons of media coverage as well as HUGE $$$ from GOP donors in support of the ads).

    Sites which have totally sold-out to Obama like Obama, to paraphrase Al Sharpton, sold-out to ‘The Man’ over Sean Bell are freaking the *blank* out: Daily Kos is in panic; Josh “LIEberman” Marshall and his TPM is flustered; Jonathan Singer of MyDD is trying to hide behind Chaz Todd’s stilted poll. Honestly, I would not be surprised if NBC and Todd released a new poll bi-daily each diem between now and Tuesday. They are freaking out.

    This is where we stand, overall:

    The elites of the Dem. Party (Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Pelosi) and the elites of the mainstream media and blogosphere (Matthews, Russert, Cooper, C. Brown, Larry King, Markos, Marshall, …) are going to throw every last kitchen sink, compact automobile, boxcar and small building at the Clintons in the next 5 days that they can. Anyone who is suspected of not being on-board with Obama will be directly or indirectly referred to as a racist or racist-to-be. Prepare for this, because it has already started and will be heightening by the moment through the close of Tuesday’s polls closing in the two key states.

    This is the MSM and DNC elites vs us, the average Americans who stand for taking back our country from the Bush Administration and who don’t want to give it to a pliable, and suspect, political neophyte like BaCrock, who the Axelrods and Exelons think they can play like the proverbial marionette on the strings if and when they are able to snow the public and get Ofraudma into the Oval Office. America does not want this, particularly after 8 years of Shrub.

    Now is the time to wreck the elites’ plans. But we can only accomplish this with all hands on deck. We have 120+ hours to go, and if we execute properly we will have taken a Godzilla-sized bite out of the to-do list necessary to get Hillary Clinton into the White House.

    The Obama internet astroturfers are weakening. Their attrition is evident to anyone working the ‘net the last few days. Now is the time to land the decisive blow and drive them back into their troll dens like the Russian Army did to the Axis at Stalingrad. As a historian, the first thought that springs to my mind is that it is time to funnel Obama and his media and DNC elites into their own version of the Korsun-Cherkassy Pocket.

    Now is OUR time. If you ever wanted to write one post, pen one letter to the editor or let MSNBC know how furious you are with David Shuster calling Chelsea a whore (in effect) or Chris Matthews telling a female anchorperson to come closer to the camera, this is your call to action. It has to happen now.

    My brother and I have our own plans to actualize this weekend in order to help defeat the Obamaian/DNC/MSM Axis. Most will be taking place on our site but we will be working other sources and channels as well. You all know I am in 100%.

    So let’s do this!

    If we are able to take North Carolina and win Indiana by double digits, the Axis’ metaphorical walls of Jericho will come crashing down faster than you can say “Pennsylvania.”

    The Axis is hoping you will be complacent, counting on your letting them carry-out their clandestine plot to subvert the good of this country so that they can oligarchically choose ‘our’ nominee. They think you are going to sit back and let them trample all over you whether you like it or not.

    Prove them wrong.

    For you, for her, for us.

    For America.

    Paul F. Villarreal
    http://www.villarrealsports.com

  249. Looking at IN poll numbers, it’s looking like a 7-9 pt win. NC is a bit trickier to gauge. Early voting there hurts us, but there is crossover there due to open primaries.

    My best guess on NC barring any large story this weekend is: 👿 by 7-9.

    We have to GOTV.

  250. What polls are you looking at? The only one I trust is SUSA. NC is going to be a loss. I think IN is going to be closer than 7 points.

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