Hillary Clinton – Foxy Lady

Hillary Clinton will be on the Bill O’Reilly show tonight and tomorrow night. We’ll discuss her appearance here, in the comments.

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Barack Obama is defending his indefensible 20 year relationship with “Pastor” Wright day after day. The Obama Drama never ends. We wait for “Pastor” Wright to respond to Obama.

The Washington Post Editorial today (months too late, and still making excuses):

Did Mr. Obama climb out of that hole yesterday? It seems to us that the whole sorry episode raises legitimate questions about his judgment. Given the long and close relationship between Mr. Obama and the Rev. Wright, voters will ask: How could Mr. Obama have been surprised by the Rev. Wright’s views? How could he not have seen this coming? Mr. Obama didn’t help matters much by initially seeming to dismiss the furor building over the Rev. Wright’s Washington performance, just as he did with the initial uproar last month. At a media availability at an airport Monday afternoon, he displayed none of the anger and sorrow that etched his face in North Carolina one day later.

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While Obama bamboozles – The rights of Florida and Michigan voters were defended today by demonstrators in Washington, D.C. – protesting at the Democratic? National Committee:


451 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton – Foxy Lady

  1. So Obama knew – without any doubt what so ever -there were no WMD in iraq but he did not know about what Wright was speaking in his own church?

    Forget about that one!

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  3. she just shot him down on her knowledge of how her health care plan will work. Of course he had to call it HillCare. She’s sharp for sure and I think Oreilly is a bit taken aback by her LOL

  4. Man she is GOOD! Bill-O trying his best tomonopolize and grandstand 9sort of like Jerry-O) and smugly hitting her with contrary comments and trying to keep her from responding and she is just walking RINGS around him!

    that’s why he’s squinty-eyed and annoyed and mad – she does NOT back down! Talk about TESTICULAR FORTITUDE!

    He ribs her about her health care plan and says how ya gonna pay for it? What’s Moses gonna come down ansd write it in stone and she BRILLIANTLY responds, with a laugh.

    Well, that would help! hehehehehe with on the

  5. O’Reilly’s been talking that shit for years but now he’s in the ring with a heavyweight champ and he’s treading very carefully!!!

  6. Hey! I’m hearing a few hits in her audio here and they’d better not be fucking with her words!

  7. Looks like to me, the whole AFL-CIO section is about to come out for her, thats 2 AFL CIO presidents today and both are SD’s

  8. If i wasn’t straight I swear I’d be in love with her!
    God! She TOYED with Bill=O, taming him charming, him, calming him, lulling hm with references to Reagan, the Irish, and she had him eating out of her hand!!!!!
    And she SHUT HIM UP!!!! I’ve never seen him LISTEN like that!!!!! it’s clear he was VERY impressed with her. Last question was priceless
    .He asks if she’s surprised Fox has been so onjective in their coverage of her and she says, with a twinkle in her eye, Well, i wouldn’t expect anything other than fair and balanced coverage! CHECKMATE! And he loved every second of the battle. Tomorrow the interview goes to terrorism and international affairs.
    Guys – she HIT it outta the park!!!!!!


  9. Try Foxnews.com. They may have a video.

    I’m on modem now, or would check it out. Definitely worth seeing.

  10. JEEEZ!
    Even the Waffles supporters who came up next coz Senator Waffles wouldn’t agree to an interview said HRC was MASTERFFUL!

    then i hadta switch the channel.

  11. After watching Hillary with O’Reilly, everyone in America knows why Obama dose not want to do a Lincoln/Douglas style debate with Hillary.

  12. Clintons hitting her stride now and Obama looks like his on an oxygen bottle, i think we know who could handle a Presidency and it sure as hell aint him. If he thinks he’s got pressure now,lol.

  13. hehe, even the two Obama supporters had to heap praise on her.

    That last remark was priceless.

    “You almost had a crush on her Bill.”

  14. oh boy

    mr waffles will shit in his pants with thses kinds queations

    i thought o,riely was having crush on her

  15. hahahha a

    even those women were impressed

    oh man ,,i am married

    but i would love to hug her tightly anf give her a kiss on a cheeck and and pray for her everyday

    i really hope she wins

  16. What’s REALLY great is Bill-O’s show is very popular in places like NC and indiana and everywhere lsatte-liberals aren’t numerous. I read somewhere that she’ll get more national exposure from his show than from almost anywhere else.

    Anyone know about Bill-O’s viewer stats? or is that just posturing from FOX?

  17. After whats occurred with Wright, i have a sneaking suspicion that there are going to be a lot of Republican voters for Hillary next week in In and NC simply to take Bambi down, they are really beginning to hate him more than Hillary, He achieved that in 6 months, it took her 16 years.

  18. i was listening to radio show of sean hannity

    and a lot of women were talking about thier girlsfriends may be voting for hillary rather than mcain

    they find hillary more strong than mccain

    i was so happy

  19. hehehehe –
    Bill-O still so flustered (turned on) by HRC the next segment is supposed to be what about barack obama being thrown under the bus and corrects himself and says i mean what about when obama threw wright under the bus.

    Now he’s being coached on how to approach the enemy more efficiently next time.

  20. Seriously i heard from some of my sources that many Republicans are pissed at Obama regardless of anything and would rather have Hillary face McCain because at least she’s not a traitor and would vote for her just to put the “traitor” out of the nomination race.

  21. Actually O’reilly is not dumb, he’s helping her, I get the feeling he’s having a friendly truce with her at present until she gets the nomination, its clear he hates Obama with a passion and wants him taken down.

  22. I think there will be BIG Republican woman crossover in the general if Hillary gets the nomination.

  23. MOON

    Looks like Obama is a uniter after all!!… he certainly is bringing Republicans, independants, Democrats , young , old, italians, Irish, Jews…etc etc etc together…he definately reaches across the isle!!

    only thing is……do you think someone should tell him he’s uniting those who are against him 😀

  24. and not just girls, either.

    people know the country’s in serious trouble, and it couldn’t be more obvious who’s most qualified.
    In the privacy of the booth, R-D-or I, they’ll do what’s right.

  25. O’Reilly said he has more stuff on Wright to be aired tomorrow night… I am still waiting for Wright and others to say Obama was in the pews and heard much of what he claims to have not heard. Remember when Oprah left the church Wright went after her viciously and she did not condemn him, she just left.

  26. More from the new CBS/NYTIMES poll:

    Among Blue-Collar White Voters

    61% – Hillary
    23% – Bambi

    (Are you SDs paying attention ?)

  27. Wright uproar boosts Clinton confidence
    By: Mike Allen and John F. Harris
    April 30, 2008 07:26 PM EST

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday sent a fundraising e-mail with the subject line “Roaring back.”

    For the first time since her humiliating third-place finish in Iowa nearly four months ago, Clinton aides aren’t privately rolling their eyes at their own campaign bluster — even if the evidence of a comeback so far is still less than a roar.

    For the past couple of months, Clinton has been resting her hopes — and resisting calls to drop out — on the possibility of a game-changer, some unforeseen event that would change the prism through which the media, superdelegates and average Democrats are viewing her uphill campaign against Barack Obama.

    It won’t be clear until the May 6 primaries in Indiana and North Carolina whether the game really has changed. But recent days have shown that the ground has shifted in important ways for her.

    Some are concrete: better fundraising, well-timed endorsements and a spate of polls showing how Obama’s relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has broken skin politically.Others are more intangible: crisp performances by Clinton at a time when the usually poised Obama has appeared more rattled than at any time in this campaign, as well as a Clinton campaign team that is no longer defeatist and morose behind the scenes.

    By no means are they effusive. Under their best-case scenario, Clinton advisers believe she will be about 100 delegates behind Obama when the primary season ends on June 3.
    See Also

    * Clinton playing by her own set of rules
    * Rep. Capps endorses Obama
    * Tax slip-up mars Franken campaign

    But if the mathematics of the race has not changed, aides believe the psychology has.

    Before, the Clintons knew they were fighting a story line that said she could never win unless superdelegates take the nomination away from a popular African-American who came in first.

    Now they hope that they have subtly shifted to a new story line: Superdelegates must think twice before bestowing the nomination on an increasingly controversial politician who has missed repeated opportunities to wrap up the contest with a decisive, big-state victory.

    “We always knew she’d win when the press started treating the candidates equally and the voters got her message,” said Terry McAuliffe, Clinton’s campaign chairman.

    McAuliffe, who talks to the senator and former President Bill Clinton constantly, said they have always remained optimistic.

    “I never thought she’d gone anywhere,” McAuliffe said. “She is the same candidate she’s been for the last 16 months. But now the press is paying more attention to her and she can come back and win.”

    McAuliffe is characteristically the most ebullient — even Pollyannaish — of Clinton’s surrogates. But it’s clear that even more jaundiced members of her camp now feel that at least some measure of optimism is justified.

    Their scenario depends on emphatic victories in Indiana and, a week later, in West Virginia, fueled by the same type of white, working-class Democrats who backed Clinton in Ohio and Pennsylvania, while keeping an all-but-certain Obama win in North Carolina narrower than is expected.

    According to this line of argument, these results would allow Clinton operatives to credibly stoke “buyer’s remorse” feelings among superdelegates.

    It remains a long shot by almost any calculation. Last month, a Clinton adviser estimated to Politico (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html) that she had no more than a 10 percent chance of winning. And as of Tuesday, Obama has gained 38 superdelegates to Clinton’s eight since the March 4 primaries, when she slowed his momentum with victories in Ohio and Texas.

    This means even good news for Clinton comes framed by bad context. The mood inside her campaign is akin to that of a near-terminal patient who gets approved for new experimental therapies: Maybe something will work.

    After sketching her potential path to victory, a Clinton adviser said: “Thirty days ago, I could have given you this rap, but you wouldn’t have believed it. Thirty days later, I can give you this rap and you say, ‘You know, you might be right.’”

    “She’s relaxed and she’s in her groove,” crowed a senior Clinton aide who had been downbeat. “The story of this race is these twists and turns.”

    And for the moment, the twists have turned in her direction.

    This includes the fact that April was the second-best fundraising month for her so far this campaign, helping ease a severe financial drought. She won the endorsement of North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley.

    And two recent polls have buoyed her. An Associated Press-Ipsos poll showed her beating Republican John McCain 50 percent to 41 percent while Obama was running 46 percent to 44 percent in the same matchup. A Fox News poll Wednesday showed her outperforming Obama among independent voters.

    Most important, the Fox poll highlighted the potential damage Wright has caused Obama. Among Democratic voters, 36 percent said they were concerned either somewhat or a great deal about Wright, and 64 percent said they believed the controversy has hurt Obama’s campaign.

    From the Clinton vantage point, the best thing about the Wright story is that it is being driven by the media, rather than by attacks from her, which carry the risk of a backfire among Democrats who want their candidates playing nice.

    “Our view is, this is his story,” the Clinton adviser said. “He’s going to have to answer it and deal with it.”

    Obama aides say this week’s news cannot obscure the larger reality: Clinton is behind with no obvious paths to getting ahead.

    “Superdelegates are her only path to the nomination, and she has been losing them at a rate of 9-to-1 since Feb. 5,” an Obama aide said. “If she can’t get them now, when will she get them?”

  28. well there’s a big Politico story on the campaign’s newfound confidence, but it’s too long & won’t post here.

  29. repub startegist on CNN jut ramed debate for SDs.
    “it’s the devil we know.”

    Not bad….

  30. Joe Friday, that statistic sums it up. Blue-Collar White Voters will be the ones who decide the general election, and if we nominate Obama, it will be a complete disaster. You’ll get 4 more years of war, right-wing Supreme Court nominees, failure to invest in America’s infrastructure and its people, environmental havoc, and on and on.

    If the SDs can’t read the writing on the wall, God help us all!

  31. Hillary was brillant tonight and of course I knew she would be. Obama supporter Michael Moore is going to be on Larry King tonight and another Obama supporter Sydney Poitier on Friday. I complained to CNN last night.

  32. I get the feeling that O’reilly gonna drop some kind of bomb tommorrow. Odd isn’t it that Hill is on his show and then he tell smarmey Morris that no Hillary should still be in the race. Dick Morris has not predicted the first thing correctly in this race and I must say he looks goofy with that hair

  33. Dot48,

    I seem to recall Dickie Morris predicting that Obama would win PA even after the first Wright blowup. The biggest mistake Hillary ever made if Morris is to be believed was to pulled Bill off of Dick when he was trying to strangle him.

  34. admin,

    This is astonishing! Remember Travis Childers, the candidate running for MS-1. He just cut a new ad madly distancing himself from Obama. The ad is on youtube now. I hope you’ll put it on frontpage, maybe tomorrow.
    The youtube link is next.
    Childer’s Republican opponent has been airing an ad that points out that Childers has received support from Barack Obama. In what seems a desperate attempt to preserve his general election chances, Childers has cut a stunning new ad:

    Childers describes the association with Barack Obama as an attack. Is that what’s in store for the likely Democratic presidential candidate from other Democrats in targeted districts? It’s going to make for an awfully uncomfortable campaign if Obama gets such negative treatment from the candidates that Democrats are counting on to expand their Congressional majorities.

    The special election is May 13.

  35. Jesus, Obama is hemorrhaging support EVERYWHERE. I can’t remember a fall-from-grace so quickly since, well, Howard Dean’s I-Have-A-Scream speech.

  36. rjk,

    ‘Remember when Oprah left the church Wright went after her viciously’

    I don’t know about that. DO you have any links?

    Ogremann just saying the Today Show will have an exclusive on the Obamas tomorrow.

    Hannity and Beckel say HRC made a brilliant tactical strategic coup in coming on FOX News. She gave a great performance, reached out to the Reagan democrats and now Hannity’s whining that he wants to interview her, too. *LOL*

  37. Kostner, thanks for the video. The new polls show Democrats running for office have to run, run, run from Obama or they will be killed in November. Childers is the canary in the coal mine.

    Berkeley Vox, after Pennsylvania voters were acused of being racists for voting for Hillary we suggested that from now on Hillary voters would hide under the “undecided” label when polled. Clearly that is now happening.

    You are right that this Wright/bitter situation is like the Dean scream – but we think it is less visible and in slow motion. If Hillary does well in NC next week there will be no doubt that Obama has been injured severely. A Hillary victory in NC would be incredible and would probably mean instant death for the Obama campaign.

    And Hillary was brilliant tonight in the interview and simply the fact of the interview is brilliant. Fox News watchers are those Reagan Democrats she needs to reach.

  38. ADMIN!!!!!

    Here are 2 clips from the Bill-O HRC interview from TM
    Can you embed them?

    Here’s the link.


  39. I honestly think Dean/Pelosi/Kerry/Kennedy and those elites really do think that the GE is so winnable that it doesn’t matter who they select .. so they want someone they think they can control and it’s bambi

  40. basil,

    will have to search, when Wright rants started appearing on youtube, I read that when Oprah left the church he did several sermons on her which were not very kind.

  41. people vote the man .. character is key….LOVE THOSE WORDS

    Stay on message Hillary for the next weeks of this campaign and keep fighting for us.

  42. didn’t someone say the other day that obama camp was going to start pulling stuff out of Bill’s presidency to use against Hillary.

    Tapper did a hit piece tonight regarding Manganese magnet … look for more to come.

  43. WTF ?

    Just saw video of Bambi claiming that Hillary’s proposal to eliminate the federal gas tax for the Summer (and replace the lost $11 billion to the Transportation Trust Fund with part of the revenue raised from a Windfall Profits Tax on Big Oil), “would only save the average American 30 CENTS a day“.

    The federal gas tax is 18.4 cents per gallon. Who the hell uses less than two gallons of gas a day ???

    Bambi must be studying that Republican fuzzy math.

  44. and she brought caroline kennedy with her

    thats politics

    they trying get old voters who liked kennedy to vote for barack

  45. Whoa, really RJK? where’d you get that? I don’t see it on their site.
    I know they’ve been wildly inaccurate in the past, but their previous poll from mid-April was this;

    Obama: 51%
    Clinton: 36%
    Undecided: 13%

    A 3-pt edge for Hill would represent a MASSIVE swing.

  46. whats wrong with that cambell b*i*t*c*h*

    when she talks about obama she puts this poitive and good face on

    and when she talks about hillary …she makes it hard to watch

    like if hillary was bush

  47. Finally someone with a little sense! Greta just asked Newt, should SD’s who are up for re-election in November be worried if they have endorsed Obama?

  48. Ok, got it.

    April 30, 2008 — A survey of 571 registered likely voters in North Carolina’s May 6 Democratic primary shows Sen. Hillary Clinton having moved from a double digit deficit in an InsiderAdvantage poll taken in mid-April to a two point lead over Sen. Barack Obama in this telephone survey, conducted April 29. The survey was weighted for age, race, gender, and political affiliation. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.8%
    The results were:

    Hillary Clinton: 44%
    Barack Obama: 42%
    Undecided: 14%

    Prior to his appearance on FoxNews Network’s “Hannity & Colmes,” on which the poll was released, InsiderAdvantage’s Matt Towery noted: “The shift has come almost entirely from white voters age 45 and over. There was a small drift of African-Americans back towards Clinton, but not so significant as to establish any trend.

    “I believe when all is said and done, Obama will likely carry North Carolina; or if he loses the race, it will be by just a few points.

    “Our polling generally does not indicate the eventual compression of black voters that Obama usually enjoys just before Election Day. If that happens, my guess is that he will pull this out. However, this poll is clearly an indication of reaction to the latest statements by his former pastor; and it forces Sen. Obama to split resources between Indiana and North Carolina.
    “If this white vote shift does not erode, given that North Carolina’s white Democratic voters are primarily in the Research Triangle, where education and personal finances are in the top tier for the nation, then I would say this suggests a major shift in all future primaries towards Clinton,” said Towery. Click here for crosstabs. Click here for party breakdown.

  49. i just heard that on cnn

    that superdelegates had meeting
    and they picked obama

    and they will announce sooner

    i heard that on olberman

    and then on ,,,,cnn,,,,,from cambell brown

  50. caroline kennedy

    she talks like a d*i*c*k* stuck in her throat (i am sorry for bad words,) but i am hating cnn everyday

    its like cnn is owned by obama

    they try to make obamas look like victims

  51. I am watching boston legal wews the lawyer is suing the delegate that is pledging Obama, instead of Hillary Mass went for Hillary, the delegate is going for Obama
    They are suing the dnc

    If 300 SD from all over the country some how mangaed to get together for a meeting every BM outlet would have video of them ariving for their so-called secret meeting. Don’t believe it. Obama camp has been floating for over a month that they had SD’s ready to end this, if so why waste all the money he is on ads and just tell his SD’s to end it?
    The answer is that they do not have the numbers to end it, they are playing a PR game to try to get people talking about something other than Wright and Obama’s lack of judgement.

  53. Sonia: Stop watching CNN and MSNBC. Fox is more balanced; believe it or not.

    I don’t believe the SDs had a meeting. I think the Waffles campaign and the DNC are trying to shut this race down, before Hillary builds a stronger case for herself.

  54. rjk1957 Says:

    April 30th, 2008 at 10:13 pm


    not all of them

    i heard that some memebers have met and made decision ,,,,

  55. sonia it would be the only news on tv right now if that had really happened

    greta wouldn’t be talking to newt about his book LOL

  56. Sonia: This is all coming from the Waffles campaign and the campaign mouthpieces. If that was true, Hillary would not still be getting delegates.

  57. birdgal Says:

    April 30th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    i know fox is fair

    but belive me ,,just wait till if hill gets nomination

    they will shi*t*t* on her

    they the repubs are the ones who made the bigger deal out of hill and bill,s stuff

    and sunked hill,s healthcare plan ,,and

    fox and reps are the ones responsible for the fear that some dems have of voting for clinton ,,,

  58. please write to the governors! it will make a difference and it will only take you a few minutes!

  59. i hope so

    i mean ,,,,,,

    i am a decent person ,,woman ,

    but beleive me they do any injustice to hillary

    me a wife .a mother will give up everything

    and fly where ever i have to ,,,to join the protest

    i mean

    i will be campaigning for mccain

  60. Buried in NYT Poll:
    Mr. Obama has vulnerabilities. Only 29 percent of registered voters said they considered him “very patriotic,” compared with 40 percent who described Mrs. Clinton that way. Mr. McCain, a former prisoner of war, was considered “very patriotic” by 70 percent of the registered voters.

    Hill’s going to concede even if SD’s push him over 2024.

  61. Oh, okay, Hill never heard of ‘Red Bull’. Who gives a fuck.
    They’re trying to combat the BO elitist charge.

    Think Obama would explain micro-loans?

  62. you were right

    its obama,s backer ,,i mgonna paste it here

    Obama backer predicts victory in Hill war
    By AMIE PARNES & JOSEPHINE HEARN | 4/30/08 4:31 AM EST Text Size:

    Capitol Hill insiders say the battle for congressional superdelegates is over, and one Senate supporter of Barack Obama is hinting strongly that he has prevailed over Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    While more than 80 Democrats in the House and Senate have yet to state their preferences in the race for the Democratic nomination, sources said Tuesday that most of them have already made up their minds and have told the campaigns where they stand.

    “The majority of superdelegates I’ve talked to are committed, but it is a matter of timing,” said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.). “They’re just preferring to make their decision public after the primaries are over. … They would like someone else to act for them before they talk about it in the cold light of day.”

    Obama currently holds an 18-13 lead among committed superdelegates in the Senate, while Clinton holds a 77-74 lead in the House. Asked which way the committed-but-unannounced superdelegates are leaning, McCaskill — who has endorsed Obama — said: “James Brown would say, ‘I Feel Good.’”

  63. Rudy Guiliani now fronting repubs attack on BO, (rightly) questioning why
    if Wright said nothing new at the Nat’l Press Club, did BO suddenly find his outrage?

    Thought we might hear form the Rev again today. Maybe tomorrow?

  64. Wasn’t McCaskill H.R. PuffinStuff?

    Normally detestable Ed Rollins with a fine point.

    Is this how Obama handles tough decisions?

    ohhhhh, I likey!

  65. I honestly don’t understand how can people still rally behind Obama esp. when he’s lost ground with all of the critical bases in the Democratic Base.

  66. No way this SD secret vote could happen. Most likely a rumor planted by the Obama camp. If this kind of thing were to happen it would cause an open civil war in the Party. And the voters in the states yet to vote, and in FL/ MI would all feel disenfranchised. Not a particularly good strategy for winning in November. No need to rush the process. They may be attempting to stall major endorsements for Hillary by putting some fear out there. Or as already mentioned, shift the focus away from Wright.

    Hillary will win IN, and as I have said already and now the polls may prove my feelings correct, NC too (but barely). This should end the race. We can now expect the last desperate acts of the dying Obama campaign. Hold on to your seats and be patient. The voters of IN and NC will ride to Hillary’s rescue in a few days.

  67. On Boston Legal they asked this guy how did he get picked to be a delegate, he said by doing a lot of volunteering. He said he was not bound to any candidate. He said he got his cue from the DNC chariman. They showed a clip of Howard Dean hollering,after his loss the guy said yes.

  68. 40 minutes and counting, the CNN Michele Obama commercial.

    Umm, would it be possible, Time Warner, to give an equal time hour to……

    William Jefferson Clinton?

  69. How in the hell could SD come out en masse following next Tues. with Obama tanking? Are they ALL on a kamikaze mission or what? Like Newt GIngrich said tonight on Greta – he’s witnessed the Democratic Party Merrily go over the cliff on more than one occasion.

    If there is validity to this, it’s because $$$$$ talks and Pelosi, Dean and Brazile (bloodbath in Denver) have been instructed by the Obama camp ro make it NOW. How foolish of ANY SD to do this with Rezko, Auchi, Alsamarrae, Kindhearts, and know telling what else to still surface?

    They needn’t worry about AA rioting in the streets – they better worry about a MASS EXODUS of white voters all across America.



  70. no

    and i belive

    we can change that

    we all should make sure

    we call them everyday to bitch at them

    plus ,,,,i belive we hill supporters are scatterd to different websites

    we should make sure ,,

    we atleast 5 or 10 times blog at hillary, smain website ,,,,read facts and follow each other,s advice and instructions,,,,,

    i saw that happening on obama,s website

    one person gives a order and and everyone else follows it

  71. we can take over all newsnetwork by uniting each other

    everyone should blog at hillary,s website ….

    and give links,,and instructions

    and follow it

  72. we all need to be united

    we all need to follow instructions

    w eneed to come up with plans and advice each other ,,,,,,and help each other

    we all need to pay more attention at hillary,s website

  73. I totally agree with some of the earlier threads. It will be GOP crossovers in NC that will give victory to Hillary. These folks may not show up in the polling. It’s an insurance policy. Many southern Republicans may feel Hillary as President is better than Obama, who they are beginning to hate. She is not bitter about guns and religion, does not attend Wright’s church, is not as liberal as Obama, is now viewed as a strong leader, etc. Don’t be surprised in the GE if she carries a few of these southern states.

  74. The Obama campaign has produced a “fact check” of Hillary’s new ad. Here’s the first “fact”:

    New York Times Editorial: “Obama Has Endorsed The Best Idea Currently On The Table To Prevent Foreclosure.”
    If you click the link, you’ll find the editorial actually says: “Both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama have endorsed the best idea currently on the table to prevent foreclosure: amending the law so that troubled borrowers can have their mortgages modified in bankruptcy court.”

    The Obama campaign is peddling a version of the editorial that was corrected a month ago.

  75. What I was trying to say before my typos interrupted.

    Even if all the SD’s came out for BO tomorrow, nothing officially counts until the convention.
    And I’d bet everything I have Hill WON’T fold her tent, and would ultimately prevail. And that’s the worst-case scenario, one I don’t think it’ll come to.
    These ads against Congressmen citing BO are devastating. The BO talking heads tried their best to downplay them, because it’s so dangerous for them.
    He can’t win blue-collar voters and will drag the ticket down like that?
    No way SD’s will tolerate it. They haven’t all drank the Kool-Aid.
    This is THEIR ass on the line.

  76. neetabug Says:

    April 30th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
    I like HIllarys site. The problem it is too slow on comments

    i know

    but belive me

    for 6 mos

    i did not know they were any other hillary websites other than her official website

    so i always chatted there

    only like 2 weeks ago ,,i found out about others

    so there will be more people,,,not college attendins,

    but women ,,marriied,,housewives,,,who don,t use pc too much ,,

    so when they go on

    they see 1500,,comments on obama,,,,and 100 on hillary

    they think wow,,,obama must be good

  77. Paddy,
    Biggest military state too, in terms of vets I believe, where Hill has huge advantage. Lots of colleges and AA’s, bad demographics.

  78. Paddy,
    Biggest military state too, in terms of vets I believe, where Hill has huge advantage. Lots of colleges and AA’s though, bad demographics.

  79. guys, don’t listen to toad-faced McCaskill.

    She says “the majority of the superdelegates I’VE TALKED TO” aka anywhere from 3 superdelegates to infiniti.

    And judging from this slimy toad, I’m sure the ppl/superdelegates she talks to could only be just as vile or slightly less.

  80. so

    i myself ,,,,and all of you

    need to remind ourself ,,,,and others to

    blog at hill website

    check fact check,,and

    plus we can make calls while we blogging

    we can do quizes with each other right there

  81. i think that’s a good idea Sonia 🙂

    Obama is going down, and I hope he throws McCaskill under the bus too while he still has a bus.

  82. btw. this HUGE online Bambibot I had a fight with a month ago says Hillary’s O’Reilly interview and the recent Wright stuff made him contribute his first $20.00 to the HRC campaign 😀 😀

  83. sonia: latest Insider Advantage Poll has HRC leading 44% -42%

    don’t get too optimistic though guys.
    The stats still heavily favor Obama, though there is a remarkably higher number of undecided AA’s in that poll.

    We must work hard for every vote.

  84. MJS Says:

    April 30th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
    i think that’s a good idea Sonia

    Obama is going down, and I hope he throws McCaskill under the bus too while he still has a bus.

    when iron is hot ,,

    thats when we need to hit to mold it the way we want

    so we need to talk to each other on hillary,s website

    or atleast

    i know its slow there

    but atleast

    leave at least 5 to 10 messages there to other hill fans

    with links,,,notes,,info,,links for newspapers and gov,,,endorsements

  85. I think the new poll is great, but I am still not believing we could WIN NC.

    It would take a massive defection of AA voters. I just don’t see that happening. I think holding him to single digits would be HUGE, though.

  86. mj, I’ve been crusing around the blogs, and all I’ve heard about the interview from ppl who have actually watched it has been praise.

    there are people saying that it was a spectacular interview, which kinda took me by surprise. lol.

  87. MJS Says:

    April 30th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    i agree

    my name on hillary,s website appears as ..sonia143india

    so whenevr u see a post by my name

    make sure to leave instructions of links,,calls to be made,blogs to be done,,and endorsements to be lobbyed ,,,,,,

    and leave at least 10 messages for everyone there

    so new people who viit the site for the first time ,will be positively energized by the number of blogs and comments and united work

  88. That poll has him winning the latino vote and only has AA as 25% of the vote. It’s to be taken with a grain of salt. But it’s great to see Hill leading in one of these there.

  89. Unless one of the candidates drops out, there can be no official vote by any delegate be they pledged or super, until Denver. These are the rules and there are no exceptions. Violations of the rules would be challenged in court. Nobody wants this. So no dropouts= no early decision. Hence the pressure to get Hillary to call it quits. She won’t and they can not force her hand.

    The DNC will have to obey the voice of the voters. It’s a sad day for the Party elites!

  90. mj, Obama won the “latino” vote in Virginia and Maryland too. The Latinos along states like NC, VA, MD, etc, are very different from Latinos in CA or NV or FL.

  91. Agree about what Sonia?

    NC Governor Easley on Charlie Rose; said support is still ‘soft’ right.

    – Predicts turnout up to 1.5 M. Last NC Primary was 500K.
    – Predicts 35-38% AA turnout.
    – Predicts Rev Wright won’t be major issue in primary (did mention RNC was already running ads against Congressmen 🙂

  92. Blue Democrat, I’d like to believe that, but BO’s candidacy is imploding, yet every damn day he picks up a SD or two. There aren’t that many left, and she needs most of them. It’s like the Idiot party, and you can’t expect them to act the way any sane, normal party in the world worild react.

  93. paddy, i think there are many reasons why the dem elites don’t want another CLinton in the white house:

    1) Bill’s scandals
    2) Clintons came to power and have reigned as party leaders for about 16 years now basically.
    3) Bill was top fundraiser for the party for 8 years, indebting many politicians to him, and afterwards, from 2000-till recently, Hillary was top fundraiser, indebting many (albeit unwillingly) to her as well.
    4) The Clintons are generally much more moderate than the far-left wing of the party that currently holds most of the power.
    5) The democrats are weak in general, and fear the republican attacks that characterized the 90’s.

    basically, our party is mad

  94. Gerond,

    SD’s aren’t bound by anything till the convention.
    As long as she stays in I can’t see how the truth won’t wear down SD’s.

    U think HRC will fold if he hits 2024?

  95. NC is now in play. I think she will win by a cat’s whisker but could also lose by the same. Either way it’s a win. But a victory for her by no matter how small, could spell the end of Obama. The pressure will mount for him to drop out. He may be stubborn and make his last stand in OR.

  96. Well, she won latinos in Florida, New York, I believe PA. So who are these latinos in these few southern states? I am thinking the sample was just too small.

  97. I don’t think she’ll fold, I just think SDs are that stupid. Watch them drive us over a cliff just cuz. I also think they’re delusional and arroagnt enough to think anybody can win vs. the Republicans his year.

  98. paddy,
    I’ve been hoping it’s as close as you say.
    Would a JE endorsement put it over the top IYO?

  99. paddy4hill, knowing Dean, Pelosi, and KK (kennedy and Kerry), Bambi will be allowed to skip and dance some more with all his arugula-chomping, latte-swigging buddies even if he loses NC by 50% (which he won’t).

    Many in the dem party WANT to see Obama win so they can destroy the influence of the Clintons. Hillary has been the top fundraiser for the democrats for 7 years now, and if they get rid of her, Obama will be the new money-muffin without the Clintons’ name.

  100. I think if Rush can urge more cross-over Hillary voters from the repubs, we could have a very good shot at winning 😀

  101. Edwards isn’t going to endorse. He’s at Disnay or something. BO won those latinos before he peaked in February. I don’t think it makes sense at all.

  102. I don’t think he will be the money-muffin. I still believe the money is being laundering in to his campaign. Believe you me he is not the CLintons.

  103. mj, i think more of the latinos in Cali, NM, etc are working class.

    I’m not positive, but I think the small population of Latinos in this area are more upper/upper-middle class.

    not sure though.

  104. Wow, I am so proud to be a Hillary supporter tonight. I just saw her on Bill-O and she was fantastic. Of course I don’t want to listen to Dennis Miller so I turned FOX of when the interview was over.

    So collected and composed. She is an inspiration. I doubt Bambi will have the balls to appear on Bill-O even though he promised to. Bambi has no balls, he is a eunich, a castrato. He could have a promising career in opera should the politics thing not work out.

  105. Look at it this way, Blue dem, Obama was basically doomed from the first Wright tape. It’s been all downhill with one scandal/gaffe after another since then. The dam should be breaking right now and they should be running to endorse her by the busload. If the idiot SDs are still not sure, what the hell is it going to take, a personal message from JFK’s ghost?

  106. I was so proud of Hillary on O’Reilly. She was knowledgeable, charming, gracious, and I think Bill-O was smitten with her. She is very personable. What a great leader. I think, people are jealous of her.

  107. I agree Gerond. To me the key is Hill not taking their ‘no’ for an answer. The great benefit to BO as the presumptive nominee is the full republican onslaught would have to begin, and by August it would be crystal clear that those SD’s would never get to cash the chips they’d placed on BO.
    At least that’s a scenario. On the flip side, McAuliffe is saying by 6-15, so I don’t know.

    On Edwards, I was trying to think of it from his perspective. And if he has his sights set on a high profile spot in a new Clinton administration, say AG or Poverty czar, well he does have to do SOMETHING for it – Elizabeth playing footsie with CAP on HC ain’t enough – and so that something is plainly to endorse when Hill needs it most. That would by Friday-Saturday at the latest.
    Also, why would they even feign support on Hill’s HC plan and alienate BO if they truly wanted to straddle the fence?
    Again, I don’t know…..

  108. Congrats, fdrjim. Great job. Keep up the good work!

    Folks, I think I said Hillary would charm the pants off Bill-O. Can you guys just admit I’m the shnizzle now? 🙂

  109. That was a pretty hostile interview environment too. “Hillcare is gonna bankrupt the nation…” — what the hell kind of premise is that to a question on UHC? He seems to be asking a lot of republican questions that no one really cares about like taxes on rich and war on terror. Hopefully next time we’ll get some better questions.

  110. McCaskill saw that when people thought Hillary could not win the nomination, her spread in PA fell. Then when she proved she could by such good numbers, the money gushed in.

    She is desperate to induce that same doubt, bc if waffles loses she won’t get a cabinet post and women will finish her career at the polls.

    Obama is so dirty he could feed a small country out of his ears.

  111. Blue dem, I don’t think JE will endorse. Don’t know the relationship between him and the Gov. Could be good or bad. Maybe this plays into the situation.

    Hilary will get the usual votes she has been securing in southern states no doubt. Maybe more white males, but probably not enough to make it all that close to claim victory while actually losing. It will be the GOP crossovers that will make it close. That commercial the Republicans ran will have an effect. The Gov’s endorsement (who has won with GOP support himself), the Wright scandal, an open primary, all add up to make this race a lot more competitive than anyone would have thought just a week ago thanks to the GOP.

  112. Is it my imagination or is the rules and bylaws committee supposed to have a ruling tomorrow about FL. and MI.?

  113. paddy,
    Speaking of Gov. Easley and Edwards, he just said on PBS the reason he didn’t endorse Hillary earlier was that Edwards was in the race and he didn’t want to hurt him.
    I don’t know the extenet of their relationship, but Edwards had to appreciate that, for whatever it’s worth.

    You think there’s some validity to the ‘argument’ I was trying to make, that if Edwards wants whatever he wants, he’s got to come through?


  115. All politics is local. The NC State GOP ran the now famous/infamous Wright commercial asking voters not to support two Democrats running for Governor because of their tie-in with Obama. In effect she was asking GOP voters to vote in the Democratic primary because the state Party is more concerned about this post than the presidency. Not unusual. And this contest may be of more interest to the voters than the presidential one. But if you are going to vote in the NC Democratic primary for the governorship, you must vote in the entire Democratic primary. One can safely assume these same folks will not vote for Obama but for Hillary while in the voting booth. That is why I think she can win NC.

  116. Blue Dem

    Hard to say what Edwards really wants at this point. Maybe all he wants is some peace and quiet and some quality time with his wife. John and his wife are good friends of the Clintons. The Clintons would naturally support his decisions at this point given his wife’s condition. He will not do a Judas Priest on the Clintons, this is for sure.

    Edwards will deal with the future when it arrives. I am certain he could get a cabinet or Party post in a Clinton administration if he wants this.

  117. 2024 is the ‘magic number’ because it is like 51% of the total delegates expected to be seated — a majority, not a plurality. If FL and/or MI get seated also, then the magic number goes up.

  118. Hillary will win Indiana.

    If Hillary can only lose NC by 5 points it would be devastating to Obama. She would have a great chance to gain the popular vote without Michigan or Florida and have a better bargaining chip with superdelegates.

    If she can pull out a win even by a point, Obama is toast

  119. For those who are hand-wringing over rumored SD announcements, just remember this little factoid.

    It is not likely that Obama can reach the magic number of delegates to shut down this primary unless they clear up the FL/MI situation. 2025 is only the “magic number” if FL/MI delegations remain unseated. Once FL/MI delegations are seated (and they will be seated) then the “magic number” changes.

    I’ve been wondering why the DNC keeps dragging it’s feet on the FL/MI delegations since seating them doesn’t give Clinton a lead in delegates. It looks like this is a last ditch effort to shut down the primary with the lower “magic number” of delegates.

    I think it’s too late for that now, this thing is going to the convention unless Bambi’s campaign is torpedoed next week.

  120. Hillary’s goal should be to try to get the popular vote without Michigan and Florida. A narrow win in NC for Obama would help greatly.

  121. Lou Dobbs was INCENSED about Obama’s effort to disenfranchise Michigan and Florida voters. Send him some propers.


    Lou gets it, and expressed genuine anger at the idea that one of the Democratic candidates hopes to secure the nomination by excluding voters in two states.

  122. Lou Dobbs was INCENSED about Obama’s effort to disenfranchise Michigan and Florida voters. Send him some propers.


    Lou gets it, and expressed genuine anger at the idea that one of the Democratic candidates hopes to secure the nomination by excluding voters in two states.

    Here’s a CNN page for comments to Lou:


  123. sds met and picked bambi. how? there are 800. most are not in congress either. many are pumbahs etc.. they live all over.

  124. Dear Friend,

    Please join us this Thursday, May 1 at 4:00 p.m. ET for a campaign update call with North Carolina Governor, Mike Easley.

    If you are able to join us, please click on the following link and the call-in information will be emailed to you on Thursday morning:


    Thank you,

    Jonathan Mantz
    National Finance Director

  125. At least the question as to why Lois Capps endorsed Obama has been solved, she is his press secretary’s (Bill Burton)mother-in-law.

  126. Action: Let’s Move CT’s Undecided Super Delegates
    by Elise

    the Panderer-in-Chief Threshold
    by kid oakland

    this is what i saw on dailykos

    i really think

    all of the pro-hillary websites got to have a goal of the day

    like 1000,calls,
    or something to do

  127. warehouse553 – while I understand the benefits by Hillary obtaining a lead in the popular vote – a 48-state strategy will not suffice for Florida voters – I can assure you many,many Florida voters have already made decisions either not to vote, switch party affiliation, or vote Republican – I agree she will benefit by accruing a lead in the popular vote without MI/FL but considering the implications in the GE it is not pretty

  128. I’m Tired of Being Scared (for Obama)
    by Lerone D. Wilson
    Published: May 1, 2008

    I can’t pinpoint the exact date the shift took place, but it was probably somewhere around the whole “Bittergate” scandal in Pennsylvania. Up until then I had confidence in Obama, not so much in his views, rather I believed that he had this whole election figured out. He knew how to get there, all I had to do was buy a shirt or two along the way.

    Now, instead I fear everyday that he will dig an even deeper hole for himself to climb from on the way to the Oval Office.

    I was especially shaken by his demeanor in the recent ABC debate. Now I think it’s generally agreed that said debate was much more of a farce than a debate due to it’s extreme bias against Obama, but on the other hand he should’ve been prepared for the barrage of scandal plagued “gotchas” levied against him. After all there wasn’t a single “surprise” question that one could argue that he couldn’t have been prepared for.

    But the real scope of the argument against Obama is broader than one debate. As a result of his recent gaffes, people are beginning to see him in the light that I think many black women saw him when he first decided to run. He’s a young optimist, with no real experience as to the nastiness of a large campaign (come on, I could beat Alan Keyes), and it just seems like he’s being fed to the wolves. All the while we’re forced to watch, and you just feel guilty for putting him there.

    Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton goes toe to toe with Bill O’Reilly (there’s a lions den if there ever was one), and walks away unscathed. Now there’s no doubt in my mind that 99 percent of what both of them said was made completely of lies, exaggerations, spin, half-truths, and mischaracterizations, nevertheless she showed all of those who had forgotten, that she can go to hell and back – beating the devil at his own game on the way.

    Isn’t that what you want in a president? Don’t we want that Harrison Ford figure, who can just kick a terrorist out of the door of Air Force One at 35,000 feat in the air, all the while exclaiming “get off my plane!” I have no doubt Hillary could do that.

    But come on, isn’t it more likely Obama would say something along the lines of “uhhhhh, terrorist, terrorist… uhhhhhhhh, I see you trying to get me with the old okey doke. uhhhhhh, it’s time for you to go.”

    It’s quite possible that Obama could then talk the terrorist into dropping their guns and going peacefully, but (yaaawwwwnnnnn).

    Even Obama’s commercials leave much to be desired. Most of them outline his plans on this or that, and without any in dept discussion or analysis (which is impossible in a 30 or 60 second ad), it’s a bit underwhelming.

    I mean, anyone can have a plan to do anything. Heck, even I have a plan to build a better future, reduce global warming, and make you a sandwich over the next five years, but what does telling that to you in such an abbreviated space do?

    Contrast that with Hillary’s 3AM action thrillers, and terrorist packed advertisements, which are usually accompanied with the scary movie trailer voice. There’s something to vote for!

    Now don’t get me wrong, I think that Hillary is definitely out of the race at this point, and based upon the campaign she’s run, deserves such. However this current groove she’s in seemingly highlights everything that Obama is doing poorly at the moment, as well as fundamental weaknesses that will plague him in the weeks to come.

    Meanwhile, for once rather than feeling as if he’s Captain Kirk, and will get out of any mess unscathed (me alongside him, as long as I’m not an unknown ensign), I fear that Obama might just be Captain Smith of the Titanic, leading me to a plenty of disappointment, cold water, and movies starring Leonardo DiCraprio.

    The basis of my fear is this; I think at the end of the day people are more emotional than they are rational, for better or for worse. Hillary’s (and even McCain’s) strengths cater to our emotions, while Obama’s more complex thoughts and philosophy, appeals to our heads.

    I worry for Obama now especially because of one particular adage that comes to mind, “no one ever got rich overestimating the American voter.”

    Obama seems to be playing only to voters with enough patience to listen, and think about what he’s saying. Meanwhile Hillary and McCain cater to those voters who simply want to kick ass and take names. Which do you think there are more of in America?

  129. does anyone have a good contact with any of the pro-hill blogs

    pls talk to them and have them set a goal on each site

    so all bloggers can do that

    thats how obama gets all the sd,s

    his 10,000,so called memebers keep on reaching sd,s on daily basis

    and we 3,000,,to 5,000 are scattered everywhere in small groups working hard everyday all day but in different directions ,,,,,,,

    my mum says ,,smart person is who ,,,,who even learns from the enemy ,,

    so we might as well learn from,,obama and dailykos,,

    because those 10,000 are all empty

    and we 3,000+ are with beef

  130. because the obamabots are stalking me and sending death threats to my home, i must be brief. it looks great here in nc, and i am doing everything within my power to ensure hillary wins.

    i hope everyone is doing well.

  131. who has contact of taylor marsh ? pls contact her personally

    she is always encouraging

    but i rather see a goal meter

    who knows noquarterusa .com ,,,he should have a goal everyday

    and we here ,,,,,definitely

    who is the oldest and activist here

    he or she can choose a goal matching with other pro-hill websites

    and lets move in one direction with heavy impact

  132. pulchritude Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 12:58 am
    because the obamabots are stalking me and sending death threats to my home, i must be brief. it looks great here in nc, and i am doing everything within my power to ensure hillary wins.

    i hope everyone is doing well.


    u should send that to big news media

    well i guess fox for now

  133. Somebody needs to report to the media about BO’s supporters threatening Hillary supporters. This is outrageous.

  134. pulchritude
    Turn the tables on the assholes, file a report with the FBI that they are making terroristic threats against you. I am sure the threats are crossing state lines.

  135. Key excerpts from revealing NYT article about the undercurrents of disagreement between Rev. Wright and Axelrod:

    In recent months, the candidate has tried to distance himself from Mr. Wright and his often radical views, even as he felt compelled to understand and explain his former pastor to a larger, predominantly white political world.

    As for Mr. Wright, he saw a cascade of perceived slights coming from the campaign of a bright young follower whose political ambitions were tugging him away from Trinity United Church of Christ. He saw the church he had founded coming under pressure from reporters and critics, forced to hire security guards. And he made no secret of whom he blamed: Mr. Obama’s political adviser, David Axelrod, a white Chicago political operative.

  136. good night

    see ya all 2morrow

    till then

    peace,,,,love,,,,and victoryyyyyyyyyyyyy

    and don,t forget to blog at hllary,s website at least 5 to 10 times everyday ,

  137. Floridians Protest At Democrats’ National Headquarters In D.C.

    That coward Howard Dean didn’t even bother to show up and address loyal Democrats. What a bunch of pussies we have in leadership…and these Democratic elites take too much for granted with the American voter.

  138. Pulchritude:

    I’m sure HRC campaign aware of the danger you (and I suppose others, as well) are in? How about police, local authorities? THANK YOU FOR GOING ON THE FRONT LINES FOR HILLARY AND ALL OF US!

    PLEASE WATCH YOUR BACK. What you are doing may be the most important undertaking in your life with the greatest and most far-reaching consequences and implications in the entire campaign season. Wish we could all drop everything and be there as well.

    Stay safe. God Bless.

  139. WOW – check this out! In tomorrow’s New York Times, it’s reported that Obama *always knew* that Rev. Wright’s sermons were controversial, but didn’t mind, because the point was to be provoked. This is a far cry from what Obama’s been saying the last few days, that he had no idea Rev. Wright held these views and was shocked and outraged, etc. This cuts right to Obama’s integrity: he can’t even be truthful when doing damage control.

    From the NYT:

    Still, the seed of worry had been planted. Blogs, and a few print reporters, kept asking questions about Mr. Wright’s politics, his black liberation theology. Snippets of his fiery, soaring sermons began to appear on cable televisions and in blog posts.

    Not all of this surprised Mr. Obama. Trinity was a progressive church, welcoming to gay men and lesbians, embracing of AIDS sufferers at a time when many other black churches shunned them. But the message heard from the pulpit was sometimes unyielding in its radicalism. To be provoked, if not always to agree, was the point. As he wrote in “Dreams From My Father.”

    “In his sermons, Mr. Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and the statehouse,” Mr. Obama wrote.

    Mr. Obama faced practical political considerations as well. He had made Mr. Wright a central figure in his personal narrative. His embrace of Mr. Wright’s church and its congregants, wealthy and working class and impoverished, formed the climax of his book. It was the moment, in his telling, when Mr. Obama finally pulled every disparate strand of his background together and found his faith.

    “He had found a truth, a sense of community, people with whom to share the experiences of the day,” said Maya Soetoro Ng, Mr. Obama’s younger half sister, in an interview last year.

    Mr. Obama’s candidacy would offer the promise of a conciliatory man fluent in the language of the Bible. Here was a candidate who could lead religious voters back into the fold. “We need to take faith seriously not simply to block the religious right but to engage all persons of faith in the larger project of American renewal,” he wrote.

    His grounding in Trinity Church would also bequeath to him a measure of authenticity with the black community.

    But by March 2008, Mr. Wright’s most outrageous sermons had nested on cable television, replayed on an endless loop on news channels. The two men rarely, if ever, talked anymore, and Mr. Obama increasingly found himself asked to explain and excuse away Mr. Wright’s most elaborate accusations.

  140. On TM over the weekend, I read that one of Hillary’s offices in Durham had the front glass (plexiglass) shattered by a metal object (bullet? or some other object), which happened as someone drove by. Details are sketchy and not being discussed, but everyone was okay, and the office was re-opened. Apparently, the local police didn’t take the incident very seriously.

  141. Obamas lunch with struggling couple as Clinton goes to a gas station

    Associated Press – April 30, 2008 4:33 PM ET

    BEECH GROVE, Ind. (AP) – Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton both are targeting struggling working class families while campaigning today in Indiana. Obama and his wife Michelle shared lunch and concerns with a machinist and his hospital technician wife. The 53-year-old man says he’s about to be laid off, and they might have to sell their home and move away from their grown children.

    Obama says he can identify with their concerns since he and his wife “weren’t born into wealth or fame or fortune.” Michelle Obama says she can relate to “the stresses people feel” as they juggle work, marriage and being good parents.

    Clinton rolled into a gas station in a pickup truck and watched as a sheet metal worker pumped gas into his truck. The New York senator is pushing her call for suspending the federal gasoline tax over the summer months to help working families.

    The Indiana primary, which is seen as crucial to both campaigns, is next Tuesday.
    I didn’t even know Obama had lunch with a middleclass couple because all I’ve seen is Hillary at the Gas Station.

  142. fdrjim Says:
    May 1st, 2008 at 12:56 am

    warehouse553 – while I understand the benefits by Hillary obtaining a lead in the popular vote – a 48-state strategy will not suffice for Florida voters – I can assure you many,many Florida voters have already made decisions either not to vote, switch party affiliation, or vote Republican – I agree she will benefit by accruing a lead in the popular vote without MI/FL but considering the implications in the GE it is not pretty

    Hm? Hillary is trying to get FL/MI seated, and will continue to try. If she gets the nomination, she probably can get them seated. But in any case they know she is trying, so why would they not support her in Nov?

  143. Mason-Dixon North Carolina Poll
    Barack Obama 49 %
    Hillary Clinton 42 %
    Undecided 9 %
    conducted April 28-29/MOE 5.0

  144. I was watching FoxNews and one of the host said in IN that Obambi was leading but Hillary was a closing but the undecided was double digits.

    And one of the guest said that bad mews for Obama it seems that a lot of people are telling the pollester their undecided but they’re not.

  145. “Obama and his wife Michelle shared lunch and concerns with a machinist and his hospital technician wife”

    They forgot some of the details. The Obamas ordered Lobster ala François served with a side portion of brie and imported grapes, along with a glass of Spanish port. The machinist and his wife had a cheeseburger and fries with two cokes, no ice. At the request of the Obamas, the machinist left his gun and bible at home.

  146. Clinton has never looked as good, and Obama this bad, during the entire primary season. Still a ton of work left to be done, but I like our chances.

  147. fdrjim, If you are still on, is it too late to mail you some more Petitions, I have some signed from my coworkers? I can overnight if I night too! Great protest today, I saw the pics! 🙂

  148. 1950 democrat – we feel abandoned by our party – and this is based on collecting over 120,000 petitions.

  149. confloyd – thanks – please send the petitions – we will be collecting them until the mid of June – We are also beginning our “Mail an Orange” campaign tomorrow.

  150. Nightline too, she is the epitome of the unsinkable molly brown.

    fdrjim, good I will send what i have now and maybe try for a few more over the next couple of weeks. So, do you think you made any headway with the DNC today?

  151. hi hillfans. i got home a hour ago. i did not watch the o’reilly interview yet on my dvr. i am cooking some pasta w/sauce quick. im starvin. i caught some snippets and read some reviews and all is great.

  152. Well looks like the republicans have finally put a picture of Obama at the controversial videos that he said he was not at. Here it is

  153. here is the Youtube video of Obama at the church we always knew the Republicans had of him. It came out today!
    h t t p://w w w.you tube.com /watch?v=RLdba0KHhHc

  154. here is the youtube video of Obama at church during the controversial sermons. We always know Fox had them. you t ube.com / watch? v= RLdba0KHhHc

  155. You can also view by going to youtube and the title is “the game of expedience”. New one by the republicans!!

  156. Guys!
    Obamatrons at Daily Kos are targeting one of HRC’s DC super delegates–

    Let’s Show this Lady some HRC love:
    Here’s her info:

    Christine Warnke
    email: cmwarnke@hhlaw.com
    phone: 202-637-5645
    fax: 202-637-5910

  157. fdrjim, have you checked on whether that’s legal with the new postal regulations? There might be some law against shipping agricultural products over state lines without a permit, or something.

  158. hillfans, i watched the o’reilly interview and she did well considering the 100mph fastballs o’rielly was throwing at her but that was expected. she fought him off well.

  159. I just read on the daily kooks that they are expecting a BIG endorser tomorrow, but don’t know who it is. Has anyone heard anything?

  160. i read a rumor to that effect on politics1.com on a endorsement for obama. who the heck knows? tom harkin maybe?

  161. it seems he will get yet another biggie tommorrw-im think rep elsworth of IN. some think gop sen lugar of IN. looks like another day of bewildering backing of bambi.

  162. Former DNC Chair Switches Support From Clinton to Obama

    Not going to post the text but this is who dailykos has been speculating about. Another back stabber who owes his career to the Clintons.


  163. andrews? hmmm. if i recall he was chair during the gore recount and was blasted bc he made comments on tv about gore stopping his fight or something.

  164. Cnn posts 3 or 4 videos of Michelle Obama with jacki Kennedy! This is sick! What do we do! I will call CNN tomorrow and tell them that we will not take this anymore and it will not get to any of the big wigs and we will continue with this biased news site! One line of Obama shrinking in the polls on CNN, please just tell me that people around the world are sick of this!

  165. Man o Man, I never go to the daily kooks, now I know why you guys call them that. They are a bunch of loones over there. I never heard such stuff. A bunch spoiled rich kids and some militant blacks and latte liberals. I will probably laugh when I find out, because everyone backing bambi are losers, all tried to be king of the mountain and stumbled on the way up just like bambi has done!

  166. whoever it is they decided long ago to endorse the asshole but were told to hold off when things get ugly for obama.

  167. in the article he says he is backing bambi bc of how he has handled th wright issue. most americans disagree dude and will show it tues. we need to lobby elsworth. hillary met with him trying to get his endorsement. call him:
    Washington, DC Office:
    513 Cannon House Office Building
    Washington, DC 20515
    TEL: (202) 225-4636
    FAX: (202) 225-3284

    Evansville District Office:
    101 NW Martin Luther King Jr Blvd,
    Room 124 Evansville, Indiana 47708
    TEL: (812) 465-6484
    Toll Free: (866) 567-0227
    FAX: (812) 422-4761

    Terre Haute District Office:
    901 Wabash Avenue, Suite 140
    Terre Haute, Indiana 47807
    TEL: (812) 232-0523
    FAX: (812) 232-0526

  168. sourcewatch has andrews as pedged to hillary-so he is defecting. crap! and elsworth got 10 grand from obama’s pac that is still not being addressed. ive got to stop reading this late…

  169. Does the average voters know these people, I never heard of the guy. I doubt this really helps him.

  170. I swear, I dont understand how the Democratic Party ever formed. Someone needs to explain to the SDs that no, we haven’t switched to golf scoring. The person who gets the least votes in the general doesn’t win. The fact that not one SD has switched to our only viable candidate now that Obama is destroyed beyond repair says a hell of a lot about what we’re dealng with.

  171. His name is Joe Andrew, and as Hill supporters have said abt others…he is dead to me.

    Appointed chair of DNC by Bill in 1999…stayed for abt 2 years. I will post the article, because we should all learn to recognize a snake:

    May 1, 3:11 AM EDT

    AP NewsBreak: Former Democratic leader switches to Obama

    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton has switched his allegiance to Barack Obama and is encouraging fellow Democrats to “heal the rift in our party” and unite behind the Illinois senator.

    Joe Andrew, who was Democratic National Committee chairman from 1999-2001, planned a news conference Thursday in his hometown of Indianapolis to urge other Hoosiers to support Obama in Tuesday’s primary, perhaps the most important contest left in the White House race. He also has written a lengthy letter explaining his decision that he plans to send to other superdelegates.

    “I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it’s now bad for the Democratic Party,” Andrew said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

    Bill Clinton appointed Andrew chairman of the DNC near the end of his presidency, and Andrew endorsed the former first lady last year on the day she declared her candidacy for the White House.

    Andrew said in his letter that he is switching his support because “a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process, and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists (Republican) John McCain.”

    “While I was hopeful that a long, contested primary season would invigorate our party, the polls show that the tone and temperature of the race is now hurting us,” Andrew wrote. “John McCain, without doing much of anything, is now competitive against both of our remaining candidates. We are doing his work for him and distracting Americans from the issues that really affect all of our lives.”

    Andrew said the Obama campaign never asked him to switch his support, but he decided to do so after watching Obama’s handling of two issues in recent days. He said Obama took the principled stand in opposing a summer gas tax holiday that both Clinton and McCain supported, even though it would have been easier politically to back it. And he said he was impressed with Obama’s handling of the controversy surrounding his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    Wright’s outspoken criticisms of the United States have threatened Obama’s candidacy. Obama initially refused to denounce his former pastor, but he did so this week after Wright suggested that Obama secretly agrees with him.

    “He has shown such mettle under fire,” Andrew said in the interview. “The Jeremiah Wright controversy just reconfirmed for me, just as the gas tax controversy confirmed for me, that he is the right candidate for our party.”

    Andrew’s decision puts Obama closer to closing Clinton’s superdelegate lead. Clinton had a big advantage among superdelegates, many of whom like Andrews have ties to the Clintons and backed her candidacy early on. But most of the superdelegates taking sides recently have gone for Obama, who has won more state contests.

    Obama now trails her by just 19 superdelegates, 244-263. This week, he picked up eight superdelegates while she netted three.

    Superdelegates are nearly 800 elected leaders and Democratic Party officials who aren’t bound by the outcome of state contests and can cast their ballot for any candidate at the national convention. They are especially valuable in this race since neither Clinton nor Obama can win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination through state-by-state elections.

    Obama now leads in the delegate count overall 1732.5 to 1597.5 for Clinton. A candidate needs 2,025 delegates to win the nomination. About 230 superdelegates remain undecided, and about 60 more will be selected at state party conventions and meetings throughout the spring.

    Other party leaders are encouraging superdelegates to pick a side by late June to prevent the fight from going to the national convention in August. Andrews wrote in his letter that he is calling for “fellow superdelegates across the nation to heal the rift in our party and unite behind Barack Obama.”

    It’s the second endorsement for Obama this week that could be influential in Indiana. Rep. Baron Hill, who represents a crucial swing district in the state, endorsed Obama on Wednesday. Clinton has the backing of Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, who has a vast organization in the state and has been campaigning aggressively with the former first lady.

    Obama and Clinton are running close in Indiana and both need a victory there – Obama to help rebound from a loss to Clinton in Pennsylvania and to prove he can win Midwestern voters and Clinton so she can overcome Obama’s lead in the race overall.


  173. it could backfire-once again we have a guy saying shut it down-kick her out. bet hillary will use this like she has before. maybe she should send easely out to rebuttal andrews. bet he would kick his ass. i mean a few days before folks vote u say shut it down and uniite. more like civil war. bo is desperate-bad move to pull this right before a vote. she will win IN and may damned win NC now. nothing pisses off voters like being told your vote is worthless jsut rally around titanic.

  174. Nobody cares about this guy, the problem is just that we as a party look so damn DUMB. We should have scores of SDs running away from Obama and switching to Hillary, instead our idiots go the other way. It’s no wonder by the time this is over the voters won’t have enough confidence in Democrats to let them control the local water board. A vote for Obama is a vote to ELECT Mccain. The average voter knows this, but our own elected officials don’t have that much common sense?

  175. a agree texan4hillary. i wish they shout out louder on trying to thug hilllary out of the race. she will win indiana and come close in nc and more obama endorsements will come out. this is planned. these idiots agreed to endorse months ago but after hillary big wins or obama drama and oops”i am endorsing obama because he is the best” yada yasa. BS!

  176. Does anyone get the feeling Bambi had a few plants declare for Hillary that he flips them when he needs them to. Just sounds to convenient to me.

  177. Probably, but the SDs whose seats are at stake need to put a stop to this bs before we face wipe out in November.

  178. Gerond, if they hand him the nomination expect a wipeout in Nov by the time its finished. A wipeout that will take decades to recover from and it will be squarely at Dean, Pelosi’s, Brazilles and Kerry and Kennedy’s door and i’m happy to let it happen if it does. Fuck them all, they deserve whats coming to them.

    That thing about Rove and his permanent republican majority, who knew it would be us that handed it to them on a plate.

  179. Anyone notice again the push to get Hillary out before the next primaries, they must be scared again.

    It happens every time and every time she wins the primaries.

  180. Its amazing that none of these democratic elders can see, oh yes he may be getting favourable press now, but look how they turned last week and as soon as they possibly give him the nomination, the msm will turn rabid on Obama’s ass like never before but thats not going to happen since Hillary will get it.

  181. Something smells about this switch to Obama by Young, its just smells, the reason is flimsy and it just looks like he was got to. Maybe he was in the tank all this time and was told to sit and wait until needed, that would be about right.

  182. My thinking is, that the orchestrated hijacking of the Democratic Party – led by San Franscisan Pelosi, Dean, and Brazile – in conjuction with Axelrod, is to “trot out delegates daily until Tuesday, as if building is a crscendo. Thurs.-one, Fri-Two, Sat-thwo to three, Sun we’ll hear about Monday’s three-four. These “sell-outs” on the take, have been what McCaskill has referred to as “ALL” behind Obama. This effort – psychologically planted to keep people home – no need to vote – this is a done deal.


  183. Franscisan=Fransiscan crscendo=crescendo thwo=two AUCHE=AUCHI (Good grief such typos)

  184. “Does anyone get the feeling Bambi had a few plants declare for Hillary that he flips them when he needs them to. Just sounds to convenient to me.”

    Yes, I am sure that is the case. It is sickening to see Obama portray himself as so innocent and bambi like and yet uses the worst old style political tactics in behind the scenes.

  185. I don’t remember this guy as head of the DNC but if other SDs follow his lead there will be a hemorrhage from the Democratic Party that would put Ronald Reagan to shame. The “party” as I have known it my entire life (all 60 years) is barely hanging on by a thread now; if the SDs kick HRC out and decide the nominee then the Republicans can uncork the champagne now and won’t have to wait until November. I can take BO winning fair and square and if that’s what Democratic voters want (note: DEMOCRATIC voters) but to have a bunch of arrogant, egotistical out of touch party leaders chose the candidate will too much for a lot of people. I decided a long time ago I wasn’t voting for BO and made the decision I would vote for McCain, work for McCain and donate to McCain to make sure BO wasn’t elected. I’m sure a lot of other Democrats will feel he was shoved down our throats if this guy has any sway. I am really, really angry and of course this was done to take the heat off of BO and the Wright controversy.

  186. well Michelle Malkin says it, without mincing words


    Obama Tries To Change His Looney Tune

    At first, Obama downplayed Wright’s public appearances. But Obama now tells us he had to wait 24 hours to convene a press conference to denounce Wright’s National Press Club speech because he “hadn’t seen it.” After all this time on the campaign trail, we’re back to the Obama-as-clueless-naif narrative again.

    When he finally did view the Washington speech, Obama explained, he was “shocked” and “outraged” and “saddened” because “the person I saw was not the person that I’d come to know over 20 years.”

    What a load of pure, unadulterated horse manure.

    Obama’s best-selling “Audacity of Hope” is named after the first sermon of Wright’s that he heard — decades ago — in which the pastor of racial resentment inveighed against an environment “where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere.”
    Yet only now has Obama concluded that Wright’s sermons are “a bunch of rants that aren’t grounded in truth.” Welcome to the Jive Talk Express.
    A reader of mine who is a clergyman e-mailed after Obama’s press conference: “As a pastor, I have this take: It is inconceivable that Obama had no knowledge of Wright’s views after 20 years as a member of that church. As a pastor, my heart-held, deepest beliefs and passions cannot be silenced. It is what I am.

    It was just last year that Obama was telling the Chicago Tribune that Wright was his sounding board for truth: “What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice. He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.”

    That last paragraph says it all and should repeated 24-7 until they get it into their thick skulls that he’s a liar.

  187. curiosity, we all know the msm is waiting until they steal Obama the nomination and then it will be open season like never before.

  188. It doesn’t mean anything Oblameless is TOAST, nobody likes a Weak President. Oblameless looks really, really bad and like one of the articles I posted yesterday from a pro Obama black Blogger Obama has LOST his “rock star” glamour and Clinton will be the better candidate in the G.E. is starting to resonate.

    Most Black Americans love the Clintons and will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee but more and more are starting to focus on the G.E. and have major doubts Oblameless is the better candidate and maybe Hillary would be the better candidate to handle the pressures of the White House.

  189. If Obama is trying to throw the kitchen sink now, he knows this is his last stand, the game is up May 6th.

  190. Where are all Of Obamas friends and supporters like Oprah, Chris Dodd ,Daschle ,Jesses Jackson , John Lewis, they all seemed to have vanished off the airwaves.

  191. Around the time of the Texas/Ohio primaries Obama’s camp said that a group of 50 super delegates were going to come out as a group for Obama. That never happened. Since that time over 40 have made their support known. I am wondering if these people aren’t part of that group of 50 and that the Obama camp is just stringing them out in spurts–particularly when there is bad news for Obama. There are still nearly 300 that haven’t committed.

    I agree with an earlier poster. McCaskill may be referring to this group… it doesn’t mean all the hundreds of other uncommittteds are for Obama.

  192. carbynew, yep the men i’ve talked are not impressed with Obama anymore, they think he’s wimpy and actually a bit girly, thats not a good name to earn running for President, in fact most of them thought Hillary could rip his arm off in a armwrestle. They are coming around to her being tough.

    If Hillary bests him with men next week then we know he has a big problem.

  193. Americangal, trust us on this, if Obama had those SD’s he would have killed her with them by now, he does not have them. Why would he put himself through all this pain if he could have knocked her off a month ago with them. Its called pulling a fast one.

  194. I haven’t seen Donna Brazile in a while promoting Oblameless. Donna isn’t stupid she taken to the hills but I do want to see how long see stays undercover…the longer she is in hiding and NOT promoting Obambi the more I’m convince his campaign is in MAJOR freefall.

  195. Bloody hell, the republicans are gushing over Hillary’s O’reily interview last night, a number of them applauded her and a few have said, can we have her for our nominee instead of McCain, lol.

    This interview may bring her big dividends next week.

  196. Yep – he would have announced all the SDs he’s received as part of his Wright correction strategy – my list of uncommitted SDs is about 260 – 265 (I have to go through my latest updates)

  197. Moonpluto, good point. And Obama should be nearing the end of bringing out people from this group….it will be interesting to see how many, if any, come out for him after next week.

  198. That FOX news interview was FANTASTIC.

    and gauranteed to piss off Obamabots. They dont get it. They dont understand the practicalities of bipartisan cooperation means more than expecting the other side to do what you want because you are so popular.

    Hillary Clinton gets it.

    Hillary Clinton is going to be our next President

  199. Morning everyone.
    Even though Snake Andrews came out for Waffles it’s still a great day!
    – FDRjim and Norma ‘s Florida protest at DNC yesterday was covered in detail on MSNBC and Deaniac was so scared he slipped outta town.
    – HRC was astounding on Bill-O and part 2 is tonight.
    – HRC is ahead in Indiana and closing fast in NC.

    here’s the video showing a shot of Waffles at TUCC posted by COnfloyd.

    add h**t**m**l and H**T***T*P

  200. Here’s the view from Pelosi’s home district:


    Editor – Sen. Barack Obama is a day late and a dollar short. He appears to be disingenuous or perhaps downright dishonest in his representation of what he knew about Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his spiritual mentor these 20 years.

    Come on. Exactly six weeks to the day after the much-praised Philadelphia speech, in which Obama invoked his grandmother as an example of his rationale for sticking with Wright, he now has an epiphany and drops Wright like a lead balloon.

    I find it incomprehensible. Does he mean to say that he was involved as a member of this church for 20 years and did not know that this pastor is a race baiter, hater and propagator of unproven accusations about the government and white people? Wright embodies everything that is wrong in America – and now Obama has finally figured this out?

    Obama comes across as a calculating, scheming politician, carefully using whomever he finds useful to help him climb the political ladder. I think the near-term future for Obama is a nightmare.


  201. FDR is initiating a market research effort to assist in building our case – to be used in a number of vehicles – we are seeking volunteers to commit to completing 20 surveys – the survey will be 5 – 7 questions – if you can help please email fdrjim at gmail dot com

  202. FDRjim!
    MEGA-KUDOS on the DNC protest yesterday!

    You did HRC proud!

    Give Norma a thumbs-up for me!

    BTW – sent out the latest action item yesterday.

    😀 😀 🙂

  203. OMG!!!!!!!

    Morning Joe headlines and MIKA says HRC was AMAZING on BILL-O!!!!!!!!

    Stay tuned! Hooorrrraaayyyyyyy!

  204. I just read where this Joe Andrew guy said he was impressed by Obama’s handling of the Wright controversy and he supported his position (or lack thereof) on the gas tax holiday put forth by McCain and Clinton. Okay someone here needs to get this guy’s email address and we all need to smother him with the AP article which talks about Obama’s SUPPORT of a gas tax holiday in 2000 and in fact wanted public recognition for the same. This needs to be pushed everywhere IMO because it shows, once again, that BO supporters have failed to vet their candidate. Can we say flip flop? The article is posted on TM’s site and came out late yesterday afternoon. I’m sick and tired of this asshole getting away with everything under the sun. We need to call him on his contradictions! North Carolina and Indiana are too important to let this Joe Andrew stop the momentum that she has right now.

  205. Grandmother, its so obvious Joe Andrew is a set up, he’s been in the Obama tank for a while and has been flipped when he was told too.

    Its another rouse and we can all see through it.

  206. Joe says HRC was impressive as he!!.

    “there’s hope for the country when 2 polarizing figures like HRC and Bill-O can sit down together and have a civil intelligent conversation.
    HRC worked with Trent Lott, conservatives – the narrative about her being divisive doesn’t bear out in her senate record.’


  207. grandmother,

    Lets do it! Im done with the Dnc! Have you ever seen anything like this before? He lies to the people and people applaud him and give him endorsements! What the hell did he handle. A ticket with hillary is a ticket to McCain! SHE IS F ING BEATING HIM! Oh please get that number and lets get on it! JOE ANDREW LOOKS LIKE A DUMB ASS SUPPORTING HIM OVER THIS, DON’T WORRY! Lets get that number and tell him who is the most electable!

  208. Did anybody she that turd Michael Moore on Larry King yesterday talking his crap?

    The more Micheal talked the more he helped Hillary with the independents and swing voters. Because it’s their smug elitist attitude that it’s their way or the highway and I’m always wright tone.

    Look Michael Moore has his own agenda and he push that and sometimes we’re on the same page…the difference is in the details that we part company.

    Oblameless one denunciation on Rev. Wright was all about the “anointed one” and not about Oblameless taking responsibility and accepting accountability…it’s all about throwing people off the Obama express when they have outlast their usefulness.

    Rev. Wright outlasted his usefulness to the “movement”…so a PUBLIC EXECUTION was done.

  209. moonpluto,

    you have to add h t t p slashslash : at the beginning and h t m l at the end.

    i tried posting it like that but couldn’t get through.

    also, you can do a google on the game of expedience video and pull it up. ya know it’s sometimes hard to get complete links through the spam filter here. I’m gonna try again . .

    Oh Sh!T – Waffles gonna be on MTP for the entire HOUR!!!!!

  210. People complaining about the long Democratic primary —

    The longer this goes on, the clearer it is that Hillary can and will beat McCain.


    Morning Joe playing the TESTICULAR FORTITUDE clip! it is HYSTERICAL!


    CAN YOU POST, please??????????

  212. A source close to the Wright ministry is also talking. Here’s what that source said in the New York Post today:

    The source noted that the roots of Wright’s disillusionment with Obama began last year after the Illinois senator unexpectedly yanked him from participating in the public announcement of his presidential campaign.

    “That’s why Jeremiah revealed . . . that he had actually been at the [announcement] hotel and prayed privately with the Obama family before the official declaration,” the source told The Post.

    “Rev. Wright, as well as other senior members of his church, believe that Obama has betrayed over 20 years of their supposed friendship.”

    Obama further angered Wright by trying to distance himself from the pastor ever since videos were made public earlier this year of the preacher alleging that America brought 9/11 upon itself and that people should say “God damn America,” not “God bless America.”

    The source added, “After 20 years of loving Barack like he is one of their own, after he was embraced by this congregation as a brother in Christ, after his pastor was a father figure to him and gave him credibility in a city he had not grown up in and in a black community that was suspect of someone from Hawaii and Harvard, he thanks him by not allowing him to speak publicly at his announcement last year?
    “A lot of people in the church believe they were there for this man when no one else was, and a lot of people don’t believe it any more when Obama claims he loves the man who did so much for him,” the source added.

  213. Here’s the TF clip. Don’t drink coffee while watching it unless you have lots of paper towels handy.



  214. Here’s the TF clip. Don’t drink coffee while watching it unless you have lots of paper towels handy.



  215. D@MN!
    Idiot Ogremann cuts off her remarks!
    There must be another version floating around.

    Her answer was;
    Well, I have fortitude.
    And women can have the other kind, too.

    or something to that effect.
    you gotta SEE her and listen to her delivery. If SNl doesn’t do a skit with that clip I’ll be shocked. 😀

  216. FDRjim,

    i noticed in the MSNBC clip there was a great mix of protesters in the crowd; young,old, white, black, Hispanic . . .


    what’s next???????

  217. plural Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 8:17 am
    People complaining about the long Democratic primary —

    The longer this goes on, the clearer it is that Hillary can and will beat McCain.
    The only people complaining are BO supporters and some of those have stopped complaining because they have doubts about Oblameless fortitude and thanking Hillary for still being in the game.

    Obambi is NOT going down easily because so many people are in denial to the reality THAT Oblameless is TOAST.

    Claire has no where to go so she HAS to cling to Obambi.
    John Kerry has no where to go so he HAS to cling ot Obambi.
    Ted Kennedy is senile and his brain is pickled.
    Bill Richardson is Judas and waiting for his 30 pieces of silver.

    CNN * MSNBC/NBC * Netroots have lost their credibility and power. OReilly was right last night that FOXNEWS has been more fair and balance in this debacle.

  218. She was so impressive last night on O’Reilly.

    I want her on my side, standing up for me.

  219. newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/05/01/today-interview-baracks-bitter-gate-rephrasing-no-better

    ‘Today’ Interview: Barack’s Bitter-gate Rephrasing No Better

    On the issue of why he didn’t distance himself from Rev. Wright sooner, Obama says: “When those first snippets came out, I thought it was important to give him the benefit of the doubt.” That would suggest Obama actually had some doubt as to where Rev. Wright stood. Is that credible, after 20 years in the angry pastor’s pews?

    Then there was this exchange about Bitter-gate.

    BARACK: The comments I made in San Francisco at the end of a long day . . .were very poorly phrased. I should have said “angry and frustrated.”

    MEREDITH VIEIRA: Instead of “bitter.”

    BARACK: I should have said “people rely on” their religious faith during these times of trouble.

    VIEIRA: Instead of “cling to.”

    BARACK: As opposed to “cling to.”

    Aha, ok Barack, what a crock of horseshit.

  220. I understand that this delegate switch was in the making before today or last night; however, I do think we can still make a big deal out of his support of BO because his written announcement specifically mentions the gas tax issue. We can make an issue out of the flip flop, we can show what a fool he is for talking about something that BO has a history with – specifically his support for it in the past. And by taking the opportunity to push this story (IMHO), you inform other people of the fact that BO just doesn’t stand for anything – unless it is in his best interest. Gas prices right now are an ISSUE with a lot of people. I’m lucky because most of my driving is work related so I either get reimbursed by my client or it’s a tax deduction but most people don’t have that luxury. At my granddaughter’s softball game last night there was discussion about it even in my fairly affluent inner suburb of St. Louis. When the Lexus owner crowd starts moaning, it’s getting bad. By the way BO is toast in Mo, not necessarily St. Louis but in the state.

  221. basil9 – worked to 4AM on strategy – we had a command center up here in DC – 5 of us – rallies in FL May 31 – at least two if not more protests at DNC HQ – trying to determine how frequent – I’ll send you more details via email later today – OH, AND OUR MAIL AN ORANGE CAMPAIGN!!! MORE TO FOLLOW

  222. blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/05/obamas-crowded-bus.html

    Barack Obama is a politician after all. He has shown little reluctance to throw his political patrons under the bus:

    Tony Resko is a “boneheaded mistake.”
    William Ayers is a “flimsy relationship.”
    Jeremiah Wright is an “outrage.”
    Even his grandmother is a “typical white woman.”

    Funny, lol.

  223. O has already put Uncle Jerry out to pasture.


  224. B Merry,
    That deserve full posting. 👿
    “Feel like a little Wright-’n’-Obama? You know you can’t get enough. Obama said, “I think people understand that I am not perfect and that there are going to be folks in my past like Reverend Wright that may cause them some concern . . .”

    “Folks in my past”? His past? Wow, that was fast. Two seconds ago, Wright was his spiritual mentor (truly), an adviser to his campaign, praying with him before his presidential announcement, and so on. His past? Well, I guess in a technical sense: Even yesterday is past.”

  225. does anyone else get offended by his use of the word “folks” all the time.
    “white folks” “rural folks” folks this folks that.

    Its soooooo patronizing.

  226. Friends, concerning the endorsements for Obama; we have known all along we are engaged in a serious fight between the Party elites and rank and file Democrats. This kind of political war is not unique to this election, this Party or even this democracy. Elites often have agendas opposed to the peons they ride roughshod over. Most times they get their way and paper over their victory with some empty rhetoric about serving the masses etc. We Americans are no stranger to this process. Why do you think we suffer from chronic low voter turnout most elections? The common people feel they have no real say in how things are run.

    This time we have someone who represents us citizens and the elites aren’t happy. They instead want to end all this nonsense in the belief that we will in the end have no choice but to accept their verdict or vote for the GOP. If he is given the nod, Obama will say the usual blah blah about how the Democratic Party is the one that represents the common people during his acceptance speech. It will be a lie. They will have shoved him down our throats in one of the most undemocratic nominating processes in recent American history. I don’t know about the others but I will not obey these masters. I am a free person and will continue the rebellion by supporting McCain. And if any of my elected representatives participate in this charade by supporting Obama, then I will vote against them until they lose or retire, which ever comes first.

    This is serious business, our democracy. Living in a communist country has taught me the value of freedom. And I know it is something that must be fought for. Most of us here have sacrificed our money, our time and our energy for the cause of freedom to choose in a democratic process our future leader. So has Hillary Clinton. We have been knocked down by the Party elite lots of times already. But each time the rag time army of Clinton supporters from across the country has risen to fight again another day. We are not finished by any stretch of the imagination. No indeed! Look, we are still standing! You can not just dismiss us like some serving maids. You will not take advantage of us or rip us off. Just go ahead and try. We will be pleased to teach the Party elites a lesson or two come November.

    We are fast approaching the end of the nominating contest. Although outgunned and outspent, we approach the walled citadel of the nomination with Hillary. We shall not fail her in this her final hours. Many a battle has been won by firm hearts and stern resolve alone. So be it now with us. Unleash your false rumors, your endorsements by traitors, your lying polls, your running dogs in the media, the vermin from your attack squads who prowl the internet, and the slime from the Party elites. We are fully armed and ready for battle this one last month. Forward comrades! Over the top! We are almost there.

  227. I think we should come up with another name for Super Delegate. it give them too much prestige. Boston Legal really demonstated that last night and people blogging here understand they can be pursued by political promises, or donation to their campaigns.

    So it would be nice if we could have a few suggestions, like Bought or purchased delegates. However, that is not very creative. Does anyone out there have some ideas?

  228. We know he is in trial today. We need more Rezko, that would add the icing to the cake! Also Oba ass, is now only leading nationally by 2.2 points. I hope we can get another poll out today for Hillary, and he is now in single digits for NC!

  229. Ron,

    Leaving now and just in case i did a faux pas, i was yust Kiddin!

    The folks thing sounded funny to me but i gotta warped sense of humor.


  230. basil9-

    well, you folks with herbal names just dont understand how to sip a latte correctly and that why you cling to competence and experience when you evaluate a candidate instead of following the herd like you’re supposed to.

  231. Wouldnt it be great if we were ALL superdelegates and the winner of the primary was the person with the most Superdelegates.
    AKA the popular vote.

  232. Rassmussen has Clinton 46 to Obama 41 in Indiana, wow, She must really be winning big there if they are having her leading.

  233. Get this Rassmussen admitting Wright is having a serious impact on Obama’s polls


    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that Barack Obama’s former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, has had a significant impact on the race for the White House. The news is not good for Obama.

    Oh Yes and if Rassmussen are saying this, its very bad indeed.

  234. This is the contact info for the new Judus, Joe Andrew. He just switched his super d support from Hillary to Obama stating we need to end the primaries and rally around Obama. We are flooding him with angry emails today.


    Phone: 202-408-5210


    “The DNC leadres just don’t get it. We, the freaking people, DO NOT want OBAMA

    DNC chairman under Bill Clinton: Unite behind Obama By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
    36 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON – A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton has switched his allegiance to Barack Obama and is encouraging fellow Democrats to “heal the rift in our party” and unite behind the Illinois senator.


    Joe Andrew, who was Democratic National Committee chairman from 1999-2001, planned a news conference Thursday in his hometown of Indianapolis to urge other Hoosiers to support Obama in Tuesday’s primary, perhaps the most important contest left in the White House race. He also has written a lengthy letter explaining his decision that he plans to send to other superdelegates.

    “I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it’s now bad for the Democratic Party,” Andrew said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.’

  235. Rassmussen

    Obama failing badly in New Hampshire, Seriously folks, we were right Obama is tanking badly.

    Clinton gaining on McCain, Obama sinking like a stone

    The new Granite State numbers show McCain leading Clinton by three percentage points, 47% to 44%. A month ago, the former First Lady was trailing by six.

    As for Obama, he now trails McCain by ten percentage points, 51% to 41%. A month ago, he was within three of the presumptive Republican nominee. Two months ago, at the height of Obamamania, Obama led McCain here by thirteen points.

  236. Don’t know if this was posted not sure how true it is

    Obama Paid By Donor Who Got State Grant

    Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:20 PM

    By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size

    As an Illinois state Senator, Barack Obama received more than $100,000 from a company owned by an entrepreneur whom Obama helped to obtain a state grant.

    Robert Blackwell Jr., a contributor to Obama’s campaigns, began paying Obama an $8,000-a-month retainer in early 2001 to provide legal advice to his technology firm, Electronic Knowledge Interchange.

    At the time, Obama had recently completed his unsuccessful campaign for Congress, and had numerous debts and a law practice he had neglected for a year while campaigning, the Los Angeles Times reported.

    Obama had been so strapped for cash that his credit card was initially rejected when he tried to rent a car at the 2000 Democratic convention, Obama disclosed in his book “The Audacity of Hope.”

    The monthly payments from EKI supplemented Obama’s $58,000-a-year part-time state Senate salary, and eventually totaled $112,000.

    “A few months after he received his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin,” the Times story disclosed.

    Killerspin runs table tennis tournaments around the country and sells its line of equipment and apparel, along with DVD recordings of the tournaments.

    The day after Obama wrote his letter urging that Killerspin receive the grant, Blackwell contributed $1,000 to Obama’s Senate campaign.

    Killerspin eventually received $320,000 in state grants between 2002 and 2004 to subsidize its competitions.

    Blackwell is credited on Obama’s Web site with committing to raise $100,000 to $200,000 for Obama’s presidential campaign.

    According to the Times, Obama did not specify on disclosure forms for 2001 and 2002 that EKI provided him with most of his private-sector compensation.

    Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs told the Times that Obama did nothing wrong in acting on Blackwell’s behalf for a “worthy project” developed by a constituent.

    David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political advisor, was more vehement in his statement: “Any implication that Sen. Obama would risk an ethical breach in order to secure a small grant for a ping pong tournament is nuts.”

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  237. It really looks like he is tanking now, Obama is taking on serious water and Rassmussen can see it.


  239. Now this is the bad news for Obama, look at this

    Fifty-three percent (53%) of New Hampshire voters have followed news stories about Obama’s former Pastor Very Closely. Another 32% have followed the story Somewhat Closely. Most (53%) say that Obama was not surprised by Wright’s views expressed to the media on Monday. Only 32% believe the Democratic frontrunner was surprised. A plurality of Democrats (47%) were willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on this point, but most unaffiliated voters and an overwhelming percentage of Republicans were not.

    Fifty-four percent (54%) of New Hampshire voters say it’s at least Somewhat Likely that Obama shares some of Pastor Wright’s controversial views about the United States. That figure includes 73% of Republicans, 55% of unaffiliated voters, and 36% of Democrats.

    Most voters (56%) say Obama denounced Wright because it was politically convenient. Only 33% believe he was truly outraged.

    They aint buying it, he is so fucked.

  240. email to andrews…

    Very, very disapointed that you would switch allegiance from Senator Clinton to Barack Obama. Senator Clinton is clearly the only democratic nominee that is prepared to lead this country.

    I believe that Hillary Clinton is the most experienced and the most qualified candidate for our party’s nomination. She is prepared, does not shirk hard work and has judgment that has been honed by a rich and varied set of experiences. I have been privileged to see her speak on multiple occasions and I am always impressed with the depth and breadth of her knowledge. She never hesitates to take questions from the audience and always has detailed, well-reasoned responses on even the most arcane of topics. Her detailed policy prescriptions and plans to achieve universal healthcare, reduce dependency on foreign oil, fix the economy, stem foreclosures and rebuild our credibility abroad are sorely needed at this point in our Country’s history.

    Finally, she also holds the security and prosperity of our great nation close to her heart. I believe that we can always trust her to try and do what is in America’s best interest.

    I also have deep concerns about Senator Obama. His seeming lack of comfort with detail of any sort – I have also seen him speak multiple times and he NEVER takes questions – leaves the sense that, while eloquent on the stump, he will be vacuous as a leader. We cannot afford someone so seemingly unprepared as our president during such perilous times. Finally, his long-standing associations with individuals such as Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers (leader of the domestic terror organization the Weather Underground) and indicted political fixer Antoin Rezko, call his judgment and ideals into question.

    As a lifelong democrat I have closely studied the losses of 1972, 1980 and 1984 and 1988. With that perspective, I believe that her strength in our party’s base offers the best – perhaps only – hope for taking back the White House in November.

    I am not sure what deal was cut or quid pro quo arranged but it will ill serve the party and our country. I hope you’ll reconsider come the convention.


  241. Clinton cutting into Obama’s lead in North Carolina

    By Rob Christensen | McClatchy Newspapers

    * Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008

    APEX, N.C. — North Carolina’s Democratic presidential primary is tightening, with Sen. Barack Obama’s struggles over his controversial former pastor apparently eroding his once formidable lead here.

    The Tar Heel state was once seen as Obama’s to lose. But three different public opinion polls conducted in recent days suggest that New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has been cutting the gap.

    The Raleigh-based Public Policy Polling has found that Obama’s one-time lead of 25 points has decreased to 12 points. A SurveyUSA poll found that Obama’s 9 point lead is now down to 5 points, while Rasmussen’s poll has Obama’s lead dropping from 23 to 14 points.

    Most of Obama’s loss of support has been among white voters. Pollster Tom Jensen of Public Policy Polling attributes the drop to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy, as well as campaign visits by both Hillary and Bill Clinton in recent days.

    The surveys were taken before North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley endorsed Clinton on Tuesday, and before Obama repudiated Wright the same day in Winston-Salem, N.C.

    Kerry Haynie, a political scientist at Duke University, said that Obama’s white support began to drop among working class whites in earlier primary states such as Pennsylvania, before the latest flare-up of the Wright controversy.

    “I think he has been damaged by all of this,” said Haynie. “The (Wright) flareup exacerbated the trend already there. Democratic candidates who reach out to black voters tend to lose support among some white constituencies.”

    “It’s a race-related explanation for that trend,” Haynie said. “The more Obama becomes a black candidate or the candidates of blacks, the more support that we see falling off among some segments of the white population.”

    Congressman G.K Butterfield of Wilson, an Obama leader in North Carolina, said that Obama has been hurt by the Wright controversy. But he also said it was natural that the North Carolina primary would become more closely contested.

    “That’s typical in this kind of race,” Butterfield said. “We didn’t accept the double digit lead of a couple of weeks ago. People are beginning to settle down and look at the race and make final choices.”

    “I think it will be a single digit win,” Butterfield said. “I believe Obama will win.”

    Ace Smith, the state Clinton campaign director, said that Clinton still faces an uphill race in North Carolina.

    “The fact of the matter is, as recently as a week ago, he was up 25 points,” Smith said. “Everyone would agree that the race is moving – very good from our standpoint.”

    Even as North Carolina became more competitive, both Obama and Clinton campaigned Wednesday and Thursday in Indiana, which holds its primary next Tuesday, the same day as North Carolina, and which polls suggest is still the much closer of the two states.

    At a news conference Tuesday in Winston-Salem, Obama repudiated his former minister. Wright had said in recent days that the 9/11 attacks occurred because the United States itself had engaged in terrorism, that the government had used the AIDS virus to commit genocide against minorities, and spoke favorably of Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam.

    Obama called the remarks “divisive and destructive” and said they don’t reflect his own views.

    Interviews Wednesday with voters attending Bill Clinton rallies in Apex and Sanford suggested that Obama had not put the Wright issue behind him.

    Tony Perna said there is no way he would vote for Obama and that if he is the Democratic nominee he would back Republican John McCain.

    “He’s been going to that church for a long time,” said Perna, a 63-year old retired schoolteacher from Holly Springs, as he waited for Bill Clinton to speak.

    “Some of what he had to say is some place in this guy’s (Obama’s) mind,” Perna said. “That is why I will never vote for Barack Obama.”

    “I think it’s getting worse and worse for him,” said Amy McCaskill, a 38-year old Apex scientist. “I think the rhetoric (from Wright) has gotten worse and more absurd and it makes him (Obama) look worse.”

    “He has real problems with working class Democrats and whites,”

    McCaskill said. “That is the base of the Democratic Party.”

    Penny Faulkner, a 58-year old Apex nurse, said that Obama’s denunciation of Wright, coming this late, will be seen by many as a political move.

    “He’s been his spiritual adviser for 20 years,” said Faulkner, a Clinton backer. “You can’t decide that something is wrong or right depending on whether you are running for office.”

    Not everyone sees it that way.

  242. Ronald Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 10:19 am

    have you sent that into the campaign?

    No, but i will

  243. just spoke with Joe Andrews assistant – explained to call for an end to primaries without letting the voters in other States let their voices be heard is wrong. The DNC set a primary calendar that extends into June – the call for ending primaries is essentially nullifying the importance of voters in States that have yet to participate in this process. Being from Florida, this is all the more disconcerting. She was pleasant with me – and gave me an alternate address to send comments to joeandrews2008@gmail.com

  244. I called Andrews office and told her to pass it along that EVERY vote needs counted. Not just he superdelegates to decide and that we also don’t need some big whig trying to wrap this up when there are still states to vote.

  245. paddy4Hill Says:
    May 1st, 2008 at 9:39 am

    This is really a true test of American democracy and the irony is that it is happening on the democratic side. On the one hand, the will of the people and on the other the will of the elites being at odds like you so well wrote. While it is frustrating to watch the irrational forces trying to meddle with this election, it is almost breathtaking to see that people’s voices have prevailed so far to still give Hillary a chance — this is in huge part to the candidate herself and the ordinary voter’s common sense to not trust the propaganda. I am waiting for the day that we, the people can fully prevail — it may just be that the desire to win this time (not to mention the fact that we will all look like fools if we don’t) will help us get over the final hurdle.

  246. I love it

    You see Obamabots, you are not the only ones who can shut down conventions

    About 200 Democrats from Florida did indeed picket outside the Democratic National Committee headquarters building on Ivy Street in Southeast Washington today. Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL) threatened to “shut down the convention” unless the full delegation were restored.

    Many of the protesters were members of LULAC, a Latino-rights group.Seems the latino’s will back Hillary to the hilt in Denver.


  247. this is our final push. please do all you can for Hillary from now until Tuesday. Call, call, call let the voters know that they continue to try to push her out and she has won the last 4 big states. Let the voters know that they CAN make the difference. Put the power in their fingers …I think the people despise the big whigs trying to dictate what they can and can’t do.


    I really believe that Tuesday is gonna be a rounding the corner. I truely do. Please do all you can, the hours are counting down and she has worked so very hard for the honor of helping us as our President.

    Hillary wants the job, not the title. That is the difference between her and Obama.

    Tell voters, she wants the job not the glory. She wants to help you.

  248. this is our final push. please do all you can for Hillary from now until Tuesday. Call, call, call let the voters know that they continue to try to push her out and she has won the last 4 big states. Let the voters know that they CAN make the difference. Put the power in their fingers …I think the people despise the big whigs trying to dictate what they can and can’t do.


    I really believe that Tuesday is gonna be a rounding the corner. I truely do. Please do all you can, the hours are counting down and she has worked so very hard for the honor of helping us as our President.

    Hillary wants the job, not the title. That is the difference between her and Obama.

    Tell voters, she wants the job not the glory. She wants to help you.

  249. this is our final push. please do all you can for Hillary from now until Tuesday. Call, call, call let the voters know that they continue to try to push her out and she has won the last 4 big states. Let the voters know that they CAN make the difference. Put the power in their fingers …I think the people despise the big whigs trying to dictate what they can and can’t do.


    I really believe that Tuesday is gonna be a rounding the corner. I truely do. Please do all you can, the hours are counting down and she has worked so very hard for the honor of helping us as our President.

    Hillary wants the job, not the title. That is the difference between her and Obama.

    Tell voters, she wants the job not the glory. She wants to help you.

  250. Come on Hill44ers. Some of us have sworn off watching media like Olbermann like an alcoholic swears off whiskey. Watching this stuff does bad stuff to us: blood pressure, etc.

    Don’t post a link to what you describe as a Hillary link and then ambush us with a freaking Keith Olbermann clip without a little warning so we can avoid it.

    Please, folks. Have a little compassion if you want us to stick around.

  251. Come on you guy, tolerate me a little. What about Bribed Delegtes, or Judes Delegates, since they all seem to want something.

    Why are the Democrats so much smarter than we are, and construct there primaries like they do the general election, and winner take all. The Caucuses are really terrible in there reflection of the will of the people, our leadership thinks that disenfranchising voters is OK as long as it serves there end, and our Judes Delegates think it is OK to support anyone who gives them a promise of a political favor in the future, or who somehow funnels money to their reelection campaigns.

    I am kind of like Judes Delegates, although I am sure there will be an up roar over that.

  252. I am sorry that should have been Republicans so much smarter than we our, so the last post makes sense. I should read before I submit.

  253. Had to point this as hilarious

    From Quinnipiac University:

    Florida: Clinton 49, McCain 41; McCain 44, Obama 43
    Ohio: Clinton 48, McCain 38; McCain 43, Obama 42
    Pennsylvania: Clinton 51, McCain 37; Obama 47, McCain 38

    The guy on DU who posted this, posted it as Obama leading until i pointed out Obama wins one state there, Clinton wins all 3 easy, dumbass.

  254. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_gas_tax_fact_check;_ylt=ArZ88Z2AlgpaV.AvyxmLuikXr7sF

    Fact Check: Obama and the gas taxes


    In 2000, gasoline prices were climbing quickly, reaching $2 a gallon in the Chicago area — a remarkable price back then. Illinois legislators scrambled to offer some election-year relief to angry motorists.

    Obama voted three times for a tax holiday.

    The version that ended up becoming law required a six-month suspension of the state’s share of the sales tax on gasoline, a 5 percent tax paid directly by consumers rather than gas stations. It also required gas stations to post signs on their pumps saying that the Illinois General Assembly had lowered taxes and the price should reflect that cut.

  255. I’ve got one thing to say to voters and delegates…”likability does not qualify one for president” just look at GWB for the best example of this. The 2000 elections should not be put in the archives so fast. People liked GWB because he was going to bring change… this time its BHO.

    I don’t need a “leader” who will smile and and talk about change while I’m suffering. I wouldn’t hire anyone that did, I have a mother for that.

    I want someone who’ll hit me with the realities and then go about fixing them. Thats the leader I’m looking for, and clearly Hillary has come out on top.

  256. This was posted by TM. It’s by Melissa McEwen, who’s uncommitted and attended a Hillary town hall in IN. Of all the maddening things about this campaign, the biggest is the media bias that portrays Hillary as a castrating bitch.

    “It was a townhall-style event, so Hillary gave a short speech and then took questions from the audience. (The guy who introduced her said she had “testicular fortitude,” which prompted her to note when she took the mic that both women and men could have fortitude of their own—and she has it! Lots of applause.) She was totally compelling, extraordinarily competent, a great extemporaneous speaker with an unbelievably detailed grasp of the issues, and funny as hell. (“I wouldn’t trust the Bush administration to organize a two-car parade.” This gave me the image of Bush and Cheney each driving clown cars in different directions, which sent me into fits of giggles.)

    The one thing KenBlogz and I just couldn’t. get. over. was how profoundly not the Dragon Lady she is, despite what we are meant to believe. KenBlogz’s comment was, approximately, “The way the media represents her is a complete lie; they might as well say she stabbed someone onstage, which would be just as truthful as the way she is represented.” This, from an 18-year-old. The reporter in front of us (we were in the media section) reading The Drudge Report through most of her speech would no doubt be shocked by his observation.

    In person, from about 10 yards away, Hillary was as warm, friendly, charming, and engaging as any politician I’ve ever seen. And the crowd—way more diverse than I expected—adored her. She got several standing ovations.

    In the parking lot afterwards, I heard a woman—middle-aged, wearing a union t-shirt, either white or Latina—telling her friend she was glad she came. “She totally won me over,” she said.”

  257. That A$$hole Joe Andrew was just on fox saying he didn’t even call Hillary and Bill first before becoming a JUDAS DELEGATE

    can you believe that?

  258. BTW, notice the similarity between the Andrew and Bill Richardson endorsements: ex-Clintonites backing Obama who call for “party unity” and praise his handling of the Wright mess. Very original script there, guys.

  259. dija, I believe it. Bill Richardson didn’t, either. Traitors tend to be spineless as a general rule.

  260. yeah and according to my posts above, his “brilliant” handling has him sinking like a stone in the polls, Andrews may need to reconsider his ass very soon.

  261. As i knew independents dumping Obama like a stone again per CNN

    Obama’s lead is now down to 1 point over Clinton nationwide, 45 percent to 44 percent, in CNN’s “poll of polls.” That margin is down 3 points from another CNN poll of polls conducted two days ago. In that analysis, Obama led Clinton 47 percent to 43 percent. The margin is also considerably lower than an April 18 poll of polls that showed Obama with an 11 point lead.

    The poll of polls consists of three newly released national polls from Fox News/Opinion Dynamics, Gallup, and Newsweek. There is no margin of error on the poll of polls.

    Both the Fox News poll and the Gallup poll were conducted partially after Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, made a fresh round of controversial comments earlier this week.

    The Fox News poll also appears to show Obama no longer has an edge over Clinton among independent voters. In head-to-head match ups, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain wins independents by a 4 point margin over Clinton (42-38 percent) and by a 10 points over Obama (47 percent to 37 percent).

    and thats CNN which means the situation is much much worse.

  262. Make sure everyone points out to Andrews that the primary process has not been completed – that our own party set the calendar to extend into June – to call for the primaries to end akin to disenfranchising the “would be voters” to those of us in Florida – To put candidate preference above the voting rights of US Citizens is not only disgusting but an outright assault on core tenets of our democracy – anyone, including Leahy who made similar calls, should never, NEVER be in a leadership position. I AM SO PISSED!!!!

  263. So yes now we know why the Obama team is so frantic in trying to destroy Hillary, if he had those SD’s he would have deployed them all today.

    He knows he is tanking and is trying to scorch the earth out and frighten SD’s.

  264. I called Andrews. Asked his aid to tell Andrews that I’m switching, too. Switching to the Republican Party after 35 years as a Democrat.

  265. HI Guys. I am reading this site for some months now though I usually dont write a lot.

    But after reading today that there are still SD’s stupid enough to endorse Obama I would like to know how many undecided SD’s there still are and how many of them Hillary has to get to be able to win at the convention.

    Somehow I lost the math here.

  266. Called his office again – the switchboard is hanging up on people at the first mention of his name!!!

  267. European:

    The “math” is sufficiently flexible that it will come out however the DNC and the party poo-bahs want it to come out.

    Here’s the situation in a nutshell. Obama, if nominated, will lose in Dukakis-style landslide fashion to the Republicans in November. The electoral college map would be devastating for the Democrats with losses not only in the key swing states like Florida, Ohio, New Hampshire, etc., but also in former Democratic states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and even New Jersey.

    The DNC and the party poo-bahs have to decide if they want to go down with the ship or not.

    Polling yesterday shows that 32% of Clinton’s supporters will voter for McCain if Obama is nominated and that Obama gets less than 70% of vote from registered Democrats against McCain. Considering that this election was tee’d up for the Democrats, a landslide loss would quite possibly mean the end of the Democratic Party as a national political party. The downticket losses would be staggering.

  268. hwc… thanks! I understood that whole concept you describe and I really trust that you are right. I can really not see Obama as a winning candidate.

    Nevertheless until today I fear that SD’s and party are not very smart or that they really prefer to lose the GE as long as they get rid of ths Clintons.

    If this becomes true it would be a sad day for the un-democratic party.

    The world loves the Clintons and Hillary is the most qualified EVER.

  269. here is my email to Joe Andrew today:

    Mr Andrew

    I understand that today you switched your support from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama

    Although I do not approve I do understand that is your decision to make.

    How ever, it is not your decision to make regarding ending the primaries. That in my opinion

    Would be Undemocratic!! The DNC set forth the rules and the process and we ALL need

    To be patient and let this play out.

    The Democratic primary is not hurting the Party, what is hurting the primary is Party leaders

    And Delegates,Endorsee’s,Super Delegates etc trying to end this unfairly!

    The Biased Media and DNC is hurting our party more than anything else.

    Hillary Clinton supporters will definitely not vote for Barack Obama no matter how much

    SPIN you all want to put on it. We Collectively know the truth about obama and you can’t

    Change that. It is not a racial reason, It is totally based on his character, his past, his present

    Its what he stand for…and the lack of what he stands for that will cause us to not vote for him.

    On the other hand, more of his supporters WILL vote for Hillary when she is the nominee.

    We all know that nothing is set in stone until the convention, and I believe Hillary will take

    It to the convention if the delegates from FL and MI are not seated as they should be.

    And you know it too, I believe that is why you switched and want to shut this down now.

    It won’t work!

    I believe the HRC supporters will also vote down the ticket and those in positions now

    And wishing to have a position will have a tough time getting re-elected in the future.

    This is not a threat, just a heads up. The Dem party base is pissed

    And we are not going to just fall in line just because the party wishes it.

    Don’t be delusional… We’re not!!!


  270. What an asshole!

    Democrat Barack Obama and his wife said Thursday the public is tired of hearing about incendiary remarks by their former pastor, as they sought to put the controversy that has rocked his presidential campaign to rest.

    “We hear time and time again voters are tired of this,” Michelle Obama said in an interview the couple gave to NBC’s “Today” show.

    “They don’t want to hear about this division, they want to know what are we going to do to move beyond these issues,” she said. “And what made me feel proud of Barack in this situation is that he is trying to move us as a nation beyond these conversations that divide.”

    Barack Obama said he initially tried to give the Rev. Jeremiah Wright the benefit of the doubt when films clips first surfaced on the Internet of fiery sermons the pastor gave at their Chicago church — a series of haranguing declarations from the pulpit in which he damned the United States for racial oppression and accusing the government of deliberately spreading the HIV virus to harm black people.

    “When the first snippets came out, I thought it was important to give him the benefit of the doubt because if I had wanted to be politically expedient I would have distanced myself and denounced him right away, right? That would have been the easy thing to do,” said Obama. This week he denounced Wright’s comments as “giving comfort to those who prey on hate.”

    In speeches and interviews over the past week, Wright has said that criticism surrounding his sermons is an attack on the black church. He dismissed Obama’s widely-praised speech last month in Philadelphia — which sought to put Wright’s sermons in the context of the black experience in the United States — as political posturing.

  271. European,

    I think the insider Democrats truly persuaded themselves last year that Obama was a special Dem who could win states no other Dem could, and produce for the party an electoral landslide like the one Reagan got for the Republicans.

    Unfortunately, as this has clearly not worked out, they refuse to let go of this fantasy.

  272. moon

    BO and MO can “sit n spin” all they want……….it won’t change what people know and what they think already

    they are fighting a loosing battle…………they are on a run away sled on a icy slope 😀




    Clinton 49, McCain 41
    McCain 44, Obama 43


    Clinton 48, McCain 38
    McCain 43, Obama 42


    Clinton 51, McCain 37
    Obama 47, McCain 38

    Key finding:

    Among white working-class voters, Clinton ties McCain 45 – 45 percent in Florida, leads 46 – 40 percent in Ohio and 48 – 40 percent in Pennsylvania. These same voters back McCain over Obama 51 – 34 percent in Florida, 49 – 34 percent in Ohio and 45 – 38 percent in Pennsylvania.
    Of course this is not to say Obama can not win these states (though I think he can not win Florida). Just that Clinton has a better chance of winning them.

  274. hillary website is working fast today

    my commenst are showing up within 2 min or less

  275. Nevertheless until today I fear that SD’s and party are not very smart or that they really prefer to lose the GE as long as they get rid of ths Clintons.

    I think the most likely scenario is that the DNC and the party poobahs are, indeed, willing to go down with the sinking ship and destroy the party. We will just have to see.

    I don’t think they fully understand that the loss of women’s support is the end of the Democratic Party.

  276. well that email for joe andrew is not working anymore, my email bounced back to me

    anyone got another addy for him??

  277. hwc Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 11:46 am
    I called Andrews. Asked his aid to tell Andrews that I’m switching, too. Switching to the Republican Party after 35 years as a Democrat.

    give me the number
    i will post it at most pro-hill websites

    so we can call him

  278. I think we need to start helping the demonstrations from afar. What do you think about when these are planned, since the rest of us cannot be there we do two things.

    1. Jam their phone line and message machines at the same time

    2. We email then and fill up their inboxes at the same time.

    Just a thought.

  279. NewMexicoFan

    I think those are good ideas! I am in !

    we could also time it so that our snail mail gets to them on those days too!

    and blog all over the web about the protest before during and after the event.

  280. Wasn’t Obama and the Boyz Club just bitching a few weeks ago about Hillary trying to “steal” Obama delegates? Weren’t there threats if she “stole his votes”?

    I know – “Clinton Rules”.

  281. mj Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
    Did Hill get the SD vote of the CT AFL-CIO pres?

    yes she did

  282. call him tell him YOU ARE SWITCHING TOO .. from Dem to Republican due to his backstabing and ruthlessness. I called AGAIN.

  283. Sorry if this is a duplicate — super-busy here — but Rasmussen shows Obama absolutely hemorrhaging support among Democrats nationally. Hillary has now taken the lead:

    In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, the Wright impact is especially evident. Clinton now has a statistically insignificant two-point edge over Obama, 46% to 44%. However, that represents a ten-point swing since Wright’s press conference. Before Pastor Wright appeared at the National Press Club, Obama led Clinton by eight points

  284. NewMexicoFan Says:

    May 1st, 2008 at 12:36 pm
    I think we need to start helping

    i agree

    tell me what to do

  285. Joe Andrew calls Obama the Bill Clinton of 2008. More like the Michael Dukakis of 2008.


    BTW, if I hear one more SD call Obama “inspiring,” I’m going to scream. Since when does inspiration win elections?!???!!!! I want a fighter and a winner, not a wimpy orator!!!

  286. dja

    I like those ideas also. We have the State chair here who will declare soon for Obama. We need to get on top of those things. He is the one that tried to steal delegates last weekend.

    We need to start protesting in several medias.

  287. do not forget to blog at main hillary website

    pls make sure leave good news,,,


    sd,s lists to be contacted

    and any interesting articles

  288. NMF

    do you have a name and contact info for your state chair so we can start bombarding him/her with our emails, phone calls and letters???

  289. Bill Clinton knew what he was talking about and had actual policy proposals — not pie in the sky.

    By AUSTIN FENNER, Post Correspondent
    May 1, 2008 — CHICAGO – Some parishioners at the United Church of Christ are so steamed by Barack Obama’s condemnation of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright that they say the presidential hopeful might want to find another place to worship.
    “I don’t think Obama will still be welcomed here,” said Odean Lathan, 80, who was attending a bible study session.
    Lathan was referring to Obama’s repudiation at a Tuesday press conference of some of Wright’s statements against the US government. But she wasn’t putting all the blame on Obama, as she gave the back of her hand to the longtime pastor for first going public with his claims on Monday.
    “I don’t think Rev. Wright did the right thing. I think he should have waited until the election is over,” Lathan said. “I hope Obama stays strong. He’s looking weak.”
    Another congregant, Wright’s next door neighbor, said the controversial pastor wasn’t out to hurt Obama’s campaign – although he “most definitely” did damage it.
    “I don’t think it was an ulterior motive,” Ophelia Guillermo said of the fiery rev’s appearance before the National Press Club. “I think he was answering back because he needed to defend himself.”
    The 58-year-old nurse, who lives next to Wright’s historic South Side home, said his outburst on Monday didn’t change her vote because she was already for Obama’s rival.
    “I’m for Hillary,” she said. “I think you need experience to handle the country.”
    Another congregant, Monique Taylor, 49, disagreed.
    Obama “never did leave Trinity,” she said. “Rev. Wright is not Trinity. We still go on.”
    A parishioner who also lives on the same South Side street as Wright, said the dispute made her “very uncomfortable.”
    “I’m totally for Obama,” she said, adding, “Both men are needed. To be divided and have Rev. Wright seen in this light is . . . uncomfortable.”
    An 85-year-old reverend who is not connected to Trinity blamed the media for fueling the controversy.
    “They’re pitting one black man against the other,” he said.

  291. May 1: Insider Advantage has released the first North Carolina poll showing Clinton leading Obama:

    Hillary Clinton: 44%

    Barack Obama: 42%
    Undecided: 14%

  292. Garin: Our Polling Shows “Gas Tax Holiday” Is Helping Hillary Politically

    By Greg Sargent – May 1, 2008, 12:15PM


    Is Hillary gaining politically by her support for a so-called “gas tax holiday”?

    On a conference call with reporters just now, Hillary chief strategist Geoff Garin claimed that the campaign’s internal polling shows that it is.

    “We’re seeing in our polling that working people appreciate the fact that Senator Clinton understands the incredible economic strain they are facing,” Garin said.

    Also, Garin sought to spin one of the main arguments against the gas tax holiday — the fact that it saves consumers a negligible amount on average — as a further sign that Hillary’s in touch with blue-collar workers.

    “It may not seem like a lot to some people,” Garin said, adding that “every penny counts.”

    The fact that Hillary supports the gas tax holiday because she understands that the meager average savings involved do matter to ordinary folks is likely to be core Hillary spin as the gas tax argument continues to unfold.

    As for Garin’s assertion that this dispute is helping her politically, we haven’t seen this polled publicly yet, and it’ll certainly be interesting to see what future polls show on this.

  293. And Joe Andrew says he expects to be the victim of Clinton “attack dogs.” Awwww, poooor widddle baaaby!

  294. I think they blame all the protest calls and e mails on the Clinton campaign. One thing the insider Dems never seem to understand is public opinion and how it can spontaneously generate itself.

  295. WOW. The more Obama lies and spins, the worse the Wright fiasco gets. Check this out, from this morning — more nonsensical quotes from Obama, about why he stayed silent in the face of Wright’s racist rants, from NYT:

    May 1, 2008
    Obama Defends Handling of Furor Over Ex-Pastor

    WASHINGTON — Senator Barack Obama on Thursday defended his handling of the firestorm around his former pastor, saying he had not denounced the minister’s provocative comments sooner because he wanted to “give him the benefit of the doubt” as a man who had married the Obamas and baptized their two daughters.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Obama’s standing in polls has suffered.

    Asked by Ms. Vieira if he should have spoken out sooner, Mr. Obama replied, “I think the sequence of events was the right one, because this was somebody who had married Michele and I, who had baptized our children.”

    He went on: “When those first snippets came out, I thought it was important to give him the benefit of the doubt, because if I had wanted to be politically expedient, I would have distanced myself and denounced him right away.”

    Is Obama SERIOUS?!?! Let me get this straight: instead of showing real leadership and denouncing Wright’s racist beliefs any time during the 20 years that he’s been attending his church, Obama waited and waited, because Wright had performed his marriage?! Huh? Wright gets a pass, because he’s affiliated with Obama?! WHAT?!? What “benefit of the doubt” is there in saying that black children and white children learn with different signs of their brains?! Or that the US created AIDS?!? BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT?!?!?

    It’s hard to know what’s worse: the scandal itself, or the hapless damage control. If Obama’s judgment wasn’t already in serious question, it sure is now.

  296. This little orchestrated stunt by Axelrod-Gibbs to trot out Joseph Andrew is beyond pathetic. As we’ve seen all along during the past two months, whenever another crisis hits the Obama campaign, instead of showing real leadership and taking personal responsibility for their mistakes, they attack Hillary and trot out another lame endorsement that they’ve put on hold. The whole thing reeks of desperation.

  297. well the interesting thing is, the republicans and independents are pissed at Obama.

    Was’nt that the groups that Obama said he could take and not Hillary.

    Ironically now, Clinton is the Dem taking those groups. Today’s polls said Clinton now is ahead in independents and republicans.

    Go figure, and they want Obama to run the Ge, they are looking at a slaughter.

  298. In honor of Judas Joe:

    Contribution Details
    Date: May 01, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
    Contact: Tim
    El Cerrito, CA 94530
    Judas Joe Contribution
    Amount: $25.00

    Please donate to counter act Judas Joe’s call to end democracy!


  299. its Obama using his drip drip method, he doesnt have many more SD’s and he knows it, this is his mother load he’s shooting coming up to NC and Indiana. Thats his firewall because we know after this, its WV and Kentucky and they are looking to be enormous blowouts for Clinton.

  300. Remember Brian Colon has not declared yet.

    So you might try to pursuade him. We have two SDs yet to declare. They are Brian Colon and Rep Udall who is running for the Senate to replace Domenici.

    Brians email is brian@nmdemocrats.org.

    Udall has a pleace you can send comments. We don’t really know where he stands. If you are running for election, it is doubtful you will declare until the end. However, you could always email him and tell him some great stuff about Senator Clinton.


  301. I don’t know about this one……….what do you think? is it for real???????????????????


    MADDOCKS: Democrats demand that Wright get out of the presidential race
    By Philip Maddocks
    Thu May 01, 2008, 12:51 PM EDT

    Framingham – Several prominent Democrats are calling on the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. to get out of the presidential race for the good of the party.

    Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont said Wright should quit the race because he is hurting Mr. Obama “more than anything John McCain has said — and who knows what he could do to Hillary Clinton if he really put his mind to it.”

    “There is no way that the Rev. Wright is going to win enough delegates to get the nomination,” Mr. Leahy told Vermont Public Radio. “He ought to withdraw, and he ought to be backing Senator Obama.

    “Now, obviously that’s a decision that only we can make. Frankly, I feel that he would have a tremendous career in the Senate.”

    Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said that either Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama or Jeremiah Wright needs to drop out of the presidential race in June in order for Democrats to win the White House in November.

    “We really can’t have a divided convention. If we do it’s going to be very hard for me to heal afterwards,” Mr. Dean said during an interview with Barbara Walters Monday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

    Dean didn’t say whether it should be the two presumptive nominees — Clinton or Obama — or the upstart candidate, Wright, who should drop out, only that it should happen after the voters had their say in the primaries and on YouTube.

    “This is not about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright,” Mr. Dean said. “This is about me and our party.”

    The other three candidates all sought to distance themselves from Wright’s campaign.

    McCain, the Republican Party nominee, challenged Obama and Clinton to repudiate Wright’s candidacy as he has, adding that he suspected that Wright had been trained in Iran.

    David Axelrod, the Obama campaign’s chief strategist, questioned closely this morning on MSNBC, said the senator from Illinois found the Rev. Wright’s campaign powerful, uplifting, and inspiring, but he disagreed with much of it.

    Asked if she would pledge to run as his vice president should Wright win the nomination, Clinton said, “Absolutely not — at least not before I talk to some Super Delegates.”

    In an appearance this morning at the White House Rose Garden, the Rev. Wright admitted that until this week he hadn’t realized he had been in the race, but now that he was in it, he would stay there for the long haul.

    “The chicken is coming home to roost,” he said.
    Wright mixed biblical passages and scholarly works with sarcasm and humor in his efforts to address the reasons why he is now in the race for president.

    “This race isn’t about Barack Obama. This race isn’t about Hillary Clinton. This race isn’t about John McCain. This race is about Jeremiah Wright. Just listen to the candidates. I’m all they are talking about. And I am all they will be talking about. I tried to stay silent. I tried to stay on the sidelines. But the candidates have spoken, and I have answered.”

    During his remarks today, Mr. Wright chided the media for distorting his sermons and for its ignorance of biblical history and black worship traditions. He said a presidential campaign was the only way to set the record straight and have his remarks distorted in a more public forum “where we can all come to a common misunderstanding.”

    He said calls for him to withdraw from the race were premature since his media blitz — speeches before the NAACP in Detroit and the National Press Club in Washington and a televised interview with Bill Moyers — had only just begun.

    What is clear, said the reverend, is that “when Jeremiah Wright speaks, all of America listens — whether they agree with him or not, they listen.”

    As a result of the unfamiliarity of many white people with black candidates, he said, some will probably find his upcoming campaign speeches unsettling, but he warned that any attacks on his campaign speeches are really attacks on the black church.

    He said he was unconcerned about what the Democratic Party, the Republican party, “or any party” thought of his candidacy.

    “This country’s leaders have refused to apologize to me,” Wright said. “So until that apology comes, I’m not going to keep stepping on your foot and asking you, does this hurt do you forgive me for stepping on your foot, if I’m still stepping on your foot. Understand that?”

    (Philip Maddocks can be reached at pmaddock@cnc.com)

  302. Northwestern University has decided withdraw an offer to Reverend Jeremiah Wright for an honorary degree.

    Wright’s comments on race have become a major issue in the Democratic race for president. He was to receive an honorary doctorate in sacred theology at Northwestern’s commencement in June.

    The university says the controversy around Wright might detract from the celebratory nature of the graduation ceremony.

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