Indiana and North Carolina and Hillary Clinton and Arugula

The job now is to win Indiana and North Carolina. That simple.

Victory in those states was the aim before Ohio and Texas voted. Victory in that state was the aim before Pennsylvania voted. All else is a distraction. Indiana and North Carolina. That simple.

How do we win Indidana and North Carolina?

To win Indiana and North Carolina, understand what happened in Pennsylvania. Most analysts don’t understand how important the lessons out of Pennsylvania are and how the Pennsylvania results impact the strategy to winning the nomination. We do – think Nevada.

In the comments early yesterday evening an important memorandum was posted. The memo was written by Obama delegate Dan Wofford. Wofford describes the Obama humiliating loss in Pennsylvania. The reasons for Obama’s humiliating loss in Pennsylvania will lead to further humiliating losses. Why Wofford believes Obama lost is something we agree with:

If someone in SF asks you about those “strange rural people in PA”…don’t indulge their liberal, latte drinking bull shit…Just tell them if they want to understand rural and ethnic PA that they should get in the Prius’s and drive down to Bakersfield or any of the other mid state towns in California where there are people who actually lead ordinary lives and care about God and own guns…. [snip]

Bittergate hurt a lot — bc is slowed down and then with the poor debate performance stopped what was truly real closing momentum. [snip]

… we’ve just got to find a way to reach seniors…. [snip]

Working class PA folks, esp those over 45, don’t trust Obama…this is a problem and other than getting them to meet Obama retail style…don’t know how we solve it, unless we can get him to do a quick tour of duty in Iraq…

Losing the Catholic and Jewish vote

Note that Wofford admits what Obama supporters do not admit in public – Obama’s condescending “bitter” remarks hurt a great deal and Obama badly lost the Philadelphia debate.

The obvious – seniors, Catholics and Jewish voters will not vote for Obama.

The important – working class white voters do not trust Obama and there is no pratical solution to the problem: Working class PA folks, esp those over 45, don’t trust Obama…this is a problem and other than getting them to meet Obama retail style…don’t know how we solve it, unless we can get him to do a quick tour of duty in Iraq.

The lack of trust by the working class whites (along with Catholics and Jews) means that as these groups abandon Obama, the Obama campaign has become the McGovern Campaign, which lost 49 states in the 1972 general election. [More on this in Barack Obama Destroys the Democratic Party.]

Hillary now has the key to victory after victory. Pennsylvania showed that Hillary will get white working class voters – necessary to a win in the general election. Meanwhile Obama’s campaign shrinks to a losing coalition.

The losing Obama coalition can be summed up in one word: Arugula. The upcoming Newsweek magazine has a cover story regarding Obama’s problems reaching – necessary to win – working class white voters. The Newsweek cover will feature a big stalk of Arugula (the unfortunate vegetable, Arugula, is now the symbol of Obama elitism).

Politico reports:

“For now, though, the arugula factor—shorthand for the impression that Obama is out of touch with common voters — is a real one as the Illinois senator struggles to show that he can win the kinds of white working-class voters both parties need to triumph in November. … As Evan Thomas, Richard Wolffe and Holly Bailey write, the McCain campaign is no longer frightened by the prospect of a general election against Obama.”

The Obama problem with non-elites is longstanding. Back in August 2007 Newsweek wrote Fighting The Arugula Factor:

Obama’s “arugula moment” was silly, but the underlying concern about his candidacy is not. For the past 40 years, Democratic nominating contests have pitted “wine track” candidates (backed by young, well-off, college-educated elites) against “beer track” opponents (who cultivate a less-educated coalition of minorities and blue-collar workers). The 2008 contest is no exception. According to the latest Cook Political Report survey, Hillary Clinton polls 12 points higher among voters who haven’t graduated from college than those who have; Obama’s numbers are reversed. His problem: only 34 percent of likely Democratic primary voters have college degrees. “If you don’t develop a solid base among downscale Dems, it’s very hard to get the nomination,” says demographer Ruy Teixeira. Unless Obama gets off the wine track, he could end up the latest in a long line of brainy, reformist also-rans like Gary Hart, Paul Tsongas and Bill Bradley.

Obama fights to prevent becoming a vegetable.

Hillary works for votes.

Hillary Clinton is in Indiana:

U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton received a rock star welcome from a gymnasium of supporters Friday night as she made her third swing through the region in four weeks.

Talking about issues like foreign currency manipulation and universal health insurance, the New York Democrat was interrupted several times by chants of adoration from supporters.

“I will remember this night in this gymnasium in East Chicago, Indiana,” Clinton told the crowd of more than 3,000 at East Chicago Central High. “And we will look back at this night and say, this is where it began.”

She was just three days removed from her ten-point victory in Pennsylvania’s primary over U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, her opponent for the democratic party’s nomination for the presidency.

Bill Clinton works for votes.

Bill Clinton wants to do more, even with all he is already doing, to elect Hillary.

Mr. Clinton also told the campaign to double the number of his daily appearances. ‘Look at this schedule — you’ve got me down for four events,’ he said the week before Pennsylvania’s primary, according to one operative. ‘Give me six, eight a day. Get me to the suburbs where I can make a difference.’ ”

Like Bill Clinton, let’s work for votes – for Hillary.

TRAVEL to a primary state to help elect Hillary Clinton (Indiana/North Carolina May 6; West Virginia May 13; Kentucky, Oregon May 20; Puerto Rico June 1, Montana, South Dakota June 3).

PHONE CALLS to Indiana and other states.

DONATE or convince friends and family members to DONATE.

There are superdelegates to contact too (dot48 and others in the comments are leading on this).

Berkeley Vox has an excellent “to do” list.

INDIANA:

INDIANA CONTACT INFORMATION (learn how to volunteer, in Indiana find an office – more than 25 offices already open, in Indiana VOTE EARLY, find events)

NORTH CAROLINA:

NORTH CAROLINA CONTACT INFORMATION (learn how to volunteer, find an office – more than ___ offices already open in North Carolina, VOTE EARLY, Petition for a debate in North Carolina)

Ask Hillary a question.

Hillary offices in North Carolina:

North Carolina, State Headquarters
516 N. West Street
Raleigh, NC 27603
Phone: 919-828-0034

Charlotte Headquarters
6400 Fairview Rd.
Charlotte, NC 28210
Phone: 704-364-3448

Wilmington Headquarters
925 S. College Rd
Wilmington, NC 28403

Rocky Mount Headquarters
2635 Sunset Ave
Rocky Mount, NC 27804

Winston-Salem Headquarters
704 Brookstown Ave
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
Phone: 336-724-0077

Jacksonville Headquarters
732 Court St
Jacksonville, NC 28540

Greensboro Headquarters
412 W. Market Street
Greensboro, NC 27401

Burlington Headquarters
16 NE Court Sq
Graham, NC 27253

Greenville Headquarters
2502 South Charles St
Greenville, NC 27858

Asheville Headquarters
24 Arlington St
Asheville, NC 28801

Fayetteville Headquarters
231 Franklin Street
Fayetteville, NC 28301
Phone: 910-323-5176

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498 thoughts on “Indiana and North Carolina and Hillary Clinton and Arugula

  1. B Merry,
    (repost from previous thread).
    i can TELL I’m recovering from months of toxic meds coz i can actually FOLLOW the money trail now! And boy oh boy, you’re right about that 1 degree of separation.
    Not only does Waffles insist he doesn’t remember meeting Auchi just 4 YEARS ago -(talk about early onset Alzheimers) but this guy Baghdadi, former publisher of The Arab Journal, author of the despicable letter published in TUCC’s magazine which claims Israel has an ‘ethnic bomb” that kills Arabs and AA’s, is one of the people who helped bail Rezko out of jail!
    OMG!!!!!!!!
    Fitzgerald! Godd@mn it, wouldya speed it up a little!!!!!!

  2. ADMIN!
    kudos on another fantastic article.
    Love this comment.
    ‘Hillary now has the key to victory after victory. Pennsylvania showed that Hillary will get white working class voters – necessary to a win in the general election. Meanwhile Obama’s campaign shrinks to a losing coalition.’
    And this had me ROTFLMAO!
    “The losing Obama coalition can be summed up in one word: Arugula.”
    yes – that poor unfortunate vegetable whose reputation has been irreparably damaged after false allegations of associations with Waffles. hehehehehethat’s been

  3. Actually, though, I think it important to note that Hill expanded her base to include every income group150k and under, post-grads, white youth, etc.. She actually expanded her base, also winning Pittsburgh, suburbs, and rurals.

  4. I like a mixed green salad but i find the asses of hollywood backing waffles disgusting. speak about living a green life and then fly in a private jet. Yuck.

  5. I do love our Hillary. She’s challenged Obama to a debate without a moderator:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_el_pr/democrats

    MARION, Ind. – Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton turned up the rhetoric Saturday in their increasingly heated primary battle as she issued a new debate challenge and he complained of a race that’s largely been reduced to trivia while working families feel economic pain.

    Clinton took the debate dispute to a new level, challenging Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.

    “Just the two of us, going for 90 minutes, asking and answering questions, we’ll set whatever rules seem fair,” Clinton said while campaigning in South Bend.

  6. admin, another great post!

    basil9, just for you and as a reminder, as admin just pointed out about that VERY IMPORTANT Jewish vote, read, digest and pass this on .. one of the most significant connect-the-dots posts at RW

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/04/follow-money-obama-rezko-and-ali.html

  7. One of the very odd things I found when I first tried eating arugula — ordered it at a fancy restaurant in a salad, thinking I was way cool — is that it is quite bitter, and an acquired taste, but nobody will tell you that. Wonder how many of those arugula lovers eat and suffer in silence, not daring to admit it’s about as good as a bitter pill?

  8. (repeated from previous post)

    Ann

    I believe it’s counter productive to even go to his site as I also believe the same thing about online polls. It gives them validity.
    Dick Morris is about the lowest form of man there is without being a chimpanzee.
    I’d much rather direct my disdain for him at the news outlets that utilize his point of views.
    As for the internet polls the obamabots are the mean machine that bashed Bill Clinton for 8 years and then bashed him at least for another 4 under GWB. there will be no winning against them, we just aren’t vile enough to compete. Exception Dobbs and a few programs on FOX

  9. mj
    again i hope i am wrong. she won the greater pittsburgh area but according to the pittsburgh post gazette he won in the city.

  10. Hillary should call Obama a wuss for backing out of the debate and not making himself accountable. Obama if you can’t meet and have a discussion with your democratic opponent, how are you going to meet with Fidel Castro, Kim Jung Il, and other dictators. He is such a hypocrite.

  11. Loved the video of Chelsea! She is awesome and her delivery is SO relevant to the younger generations’ goals and aspirations. Reiner’s is great advice as well. Enthusiasm breeds enthusiasm, definitely. Headed to Rezko Watch to see if I missed something earlier today. Connecting these dots is lbeginning to resemble the Milky Way Galaxy. What an intriguing assignment for covert espionage. Can hear 007 Bond theme song in the background now, and an Oliver Stone movie in about twenty years covering all of this corruption and the “almost” takover of our country by far, far left-wing radical extemists in bed with terrorists. Wish this were just an overactive imagination……..but alas, reality is stranger than fiction, I’m afraid.

  12. Love that Hillary debate, one-on-one, challenge to waffles DCDemocrat. We love the Hillary Fight Club.

    BTW, for those making calls: take note of the Wofford memo. We are making a difference.

    Here is what Wofford writes:

    “our household got literally 15-20 robo calls and mailings from Bill or HRC at our home. Mailings for Barack — I think zero. Robo calls from Barack, ONE and guess when it came on my phone — 4 pm on Tuesday.”

    Hillary callers are beating Obama incense burning arugula waffle eating supporters.

    Keep calling.

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=592#comment-148555

  13. As if an interview with Chris Wallace takes the place of a debate watched by around 10 million. Wuss is an understatement. Here, when he talks about meeting with the world’s worst dictators (Bill Richardon “Judas” meeting with Hugo Chavis), yet won’t go head-to-head with Hillary is laughable. What about all that glowing hope and optimism that he gushes – arg. Knows he doesn’t know squat about economics and will show his @ss again. That’s without Rezko, Auchi, Alsammarae – many of these that have yet to enter Americans’ living rooms. SCAREDY-CAT OBAMA RUNS FROM THE WOMAN!

  14. Admin
    love the job you do> I have been inspired by everyone on this board to bust my ass for Hillary but I like a nice pinot grigio and a mixed green salaD FOLLOWED BY A RARE STEAK WITH A GLASS OF RED WINE. NO DESERT BUT OFTEN AN AFTER DRINK, AND MAYBE AN ESPRESSO.
    BUT I AND MANY LIKE ME SUPPORT SENATOR CLINTON.

  15. i would love it if someone could get an audio clip of Dean, Brazille and Pelosi scheming and talking about disenfranchising the Michigan and Florida voters just to put Hillary out of the race.

    If someone, anyone, even a republican, could release some audio like that, there would be a much needed shake-up in the dem party and the dem primary as well.

    I hope any such audio or memos turn up soon.

  16. hillfans, offtopic but something has been bothering me for a while. where is obama getting all this money from? i mean college students on his blog claiming to be giving obama 100’s if not thousands of donations on end. i mean somthing seems fishy about that. sounds like wealthy parents or friends are laundering money to them to give to obama. students by and large do not have a lot of money.

  17. we all know most of hillary’s base are poorer and less well off so we do tend to give much lower contributions. but the amount of money obama is raising is incredible.

  18. terrondt, a marked difference I see in Obama’s donation “legal compliance” thing vs Hillary’s is the age thing.

    Obama’s said: Must be 16 or older

    Hillary’s says: 18 or older.

    One of these MUSt be illiegal…

  19. terrodt
    exactly— how much money has he raised several hundred million? The other day i read that the actor Roy Schnieder of jaws fame was making reular contributions. Well he is dead and to my knowledge the election rules forbid the dead from doing as such. So tell me why are theresa heinz and roy schnieder still allowed to contribute.

  20. I firmly believe that if one is kept alive solely as a result of botox they should be forbiddeen to contribute. my opinion

  21. henry-

    I like arugala, soy-latte, drive a prius, and all that…

    But, Im not a snob! Neither are you. We dont look down others who like meat and potatoes, no wedge iceberg salad (which is the new arugula in NY these days). We dont act like people are lucky to breathe our air.

    As for BO… well, I think if he wasn’t one before, this campaign has turned him into a snob and everyone is just now seeing it.

    And for the record, arugula is bitter- and delicious on a margharitta pizza.

    😛

  22. i mean if you read hillarys’ blog and obama’s blog you will get small donations from hillary supporters. but on obama’s blog you would read large donations. just a thought.

  23. I dont know much about it but it seems to me that his contributions are suspect. The pay-pal contributions are not easily monitored, particularly from overseas.
    Problem is without a smoking gun, most wont be investigated until after the election, if ever.
    Same with McCain and his public financing debacle. The FEC doesn’t even have a full comittee in congress right now.

  24. Obama has all the prius-driving, latte-sipping, arugula chomping blowhards donating to him every month, so that must be a few million right there.

  25. Obama i DO NOT LIKE.But i have a much bigger problem with the machine behind him attempting to the pull the wool over my eyes– kennedy/kerry/pelosi. how dare they destroy the party in this way!@!!????!!!

  26. MJS-
    Hey, Im a prius-driving, arugula chomping…. person. I guess, Im not a blowhard so Im safe.
    😉
    and I only give to Hillary and Im maxed out.

  27. A debate without moderator… perfect for a whiney little Senator from Illinois. He won’t take the offer. Too scared of Hillary. No one there to fend her off of him.

  28. henry-
    exactly! but Im getting the sense they are realizing the folly of their ways. They may appeal to the liberal wing of the democratic party but now they see they may risk losing the GE and are starting to back off.

    Thus, we have the momentum.
    Get to the PHONES people!

    BTW, money did not help Dean 04, Kerry 04 or Romney 08

  29. fil;bertsf
    i would love to see the vegas odds on that debate

    memo to the suck ass left wing that wants to dismiss us: next time look into your candidates past. Just a thought.

  30. I even have the original Marc Jacobs T-shirt from her Senate campaign with a Che Gueverra style portrait of Hillary – in PINK!

    beat that!

    😛

  31. http://www.correntewire.com/obama_tanking_with_independents_losing_moderate_voters

    Obama TANKING with Independents, Losing Moderate Voters

    In the last six weeks, Barack Obama has been losing support in virtually every key demographic category when matched against John McCain, while Hillary Clinton has gained support. Perhaps most disturbing is Obama’s decline among Independent voters: Between late February and mid-April, in 9 key states for Democrats

    · Obama lost an average 4.2% of his support among Independents
    · While Obama was losing support among Independents to McCain, McCain was also picking up new support from previously undecided Independent voters, resulting in major decreases in Obama’s margins against McCain among Independents.
    · In February, Obama led McCain among Independents in 5 of the 9 states, By mid-April, Obama was leading in only one state – by only 2%.
    · Clinton has held her own among Independents during this period, and as a result Obama’s relative advantage over Clinton among Independents has been cut by two thirds.

  32. Ronald
    i called every office in In and Nc with my fdny endorsement idea. Have no idea if it will work. but again i had great response here in pittsburgh.

  33. Funny I always cosidered myself very liberal. I am for choice/marriage equality/ anti death penalty but i will never stand behind a group of people who are using an ill-concieved war to promulgate thier agenda.

  34. I’m still a liberal, I just happened to disagree with the elders of my party as to who is the better person to lead this country.

    For those reasons, I’m not liking them very much. But I’m not second-guessing my political ideology. Hillary considers herself progressive and that hasn’t changed just b/c of Dean or Pelosi.

  35. filbertsf
    if i can arrange maybe IN i went to purdue and have not been there in many years so i am debating.

  36. funny. NOw that Obama’s lead in Independents has been cut, what can he say about him being some sort of person whose able to get more indie and repub votes than Hill? pfft. there goes ONE talking point.

  37. Ronald, Henry – you are soy/latte, prius driving, arugula, waffle eaters. But you do not drink Kool-ade.

    Keep away from the Kool-ade. It’s spiked with Hopium.

    Kook-ade is OK but not with Hopium.

  38. filbertsf
    what they have done with regards to senator clinton erases all respect I once had for them. iN MY OPINION Pelosi is the biggest offender.;

  39. B. merry,
    I was quoting YOU!!!!!! (of course you knew that!) Is there another article about the jewish vote? Or are you saying the Baghdadi link is enough in and of itself to torpedo the Jewish vote? I mean, he is pro-Palestine . . .
    Excellent work! now that I can digest the info it’s even more impressive! hehehehe
    Everyone – I just emailed a dozen NC newspapers. Here’s the link to the list. it’s easy to do as all the emails are posted.
    http://www.hillaryresponders.com/
    Also, anyone who wants to get involved in the FDRjim SD contact campaign let me know and I’ll repost the action item for today.

  40. admin
    on my way out the door to buy kool aid/ fresh juices/ popsicle sticks and club soda to make homeade freezer pops for a little one that i do not want digesting pure sugar treats. but i am lucky and so is she never ever Kool-aid.

  41. Henry, that’s good. She’s going to need a lot of help. Obama thugs coming from Chicago will be pouring into Indy.

  42. Hillary is 44 educated me with “Rezko for Dummies” –now it seems someone has done some more investigating, and there’s more than Wright and Ayers to excite the Republican Attack Machine:

    Barack Obama – The Wizard of Oz

    by Evelyn Pringle

    “The most trusted leaders of the Democratic party, such as John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, ought to be ashamed of themselves for supporting Barack Obama. With use of the internet, a fifth grader could connect the dots to show a picture of a guy who was picked up in college and carried up the political ladder by a corrupt gang of influence peddlers.

    John McCain is just drooling waiting for Obama to become the nominee so that he can come out with the trail of dirt that the Democratic party is too afraid to reveal this late in the in the game. If nominated, Obama will not survive a month when faced with the Republican attack machine.

    If he becomes the nominee, the web of corruption leading to Obama’s rise to power that this investigative journalist was able to untangle in less than three weeks, will be front page news right up until election day, handing the Republicans their only chance in hell of winning the White House.

    Instead of the leaders of the Democratic party doing their homework, a small group of investigative reporters in Chicago will be credited with exposing the corrupt backbone of Obama political career and the mainstream media need only follow their lead if the Democrats hold him out to be a viable candidate.

    The list of reporters deserving of credit for doing the investigative work that should have been done by the leaders of the Democratic party before they got behind Obama, includes, but is not limited to, Chicago Sun-Times reporters, Tim Novak, Dave McKinney, Fran Spielman, Chris Fusco, Natasha Korecki, Steve Warmbir and Lynn Sweet. Chicago Tribune reporters especially deserving of credit include Jeff Coen, Bob Secter, John Chase, Virginia Groark, Rick Pearson, David Jackson, John McCormick, Mickey Ciokajlo, Rudolph Bush and Dan Mihalopoulos.

    This article is the first in a series that will give the details of Obama’s rise to fame.”

    Read more below. So far there are three articles.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0803/S00452.htm

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0804/S00064.htm

    http://www.scoop.co.nz:80/stories/HL0804/S00295.htm

  43. basil: please repost the fdrjim action items for today.

    admin: great article. I like the following statement: “Obama fights to prevent becoming a vegetable.”

    I guess, eating wafles and argula will do that to a person, who doesn’t like typical bitter white people who cling to their guns and religion, and who practice xenophobia, getting in his way of winning middle America states and the presidency. Oh my, the nerve of these people.

  44. Clinton piling on the heat for “wimpy”, a shot between the eyes.

    Clinton challenges Obama to Lincoln-Douglas style debate

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_el_pr/democrats&printer=1;_ylt=AhuZmQlbAUeUkqxR2UPbuilh24cA

    Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton turned up the rhetoric Saturday in their increasingly heated primary battle as she issued a new debate challenge and he complained of a race that’s largely been reduced to trivia while working families feel economic pain.

    Clinton took the debate dispute to a new level, challenging Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.

    “Just the two of us, going for 90 minutes, asking and answering questions, we’ll set whatever rules seem fair,” Clinton said while campaigning in South Bend.

    Her campaign made the offer formal with a letter to the Obama campaign.

  45. if edwards don’t endorse at all that is a victory for hillary. i am amazed too he did not endorse yet.

  46. Repost from previous thread:

    I have learned a very valuable lesson voting based on race. One example is I voted for the previous Mayor of Philadelphia (a Hill supporter) and he was voted one of America’s worst Mayors in 2005 by a major publication. He was not what Philly needed. That was lesson one. Lesson two was campaigning and voting for a school board member where I now reside (Metro Atlanta) in what turned out to be a major disaster. We are now working to have the entire school board replaced. I believe in three strikes and I will not make that third strike and make the mistake of voting for Obaiter because he is black. This does not mean that I do not believe an AA man/woman could make a great leader of this great nation, however, Barack is not the one. I have always been a Clinton supporter and Mr. Clyburn and whoever else that want to play the race card will not change my mind. The Obaiter campaign and the media twisted BC’s commentary to make it appear that the Clintons are racist. I know they are not and this gives me more incentive to work harder to get our girl nominated. I do this because I truly believe Hillary can turn this thing around and help America become respectable and prosperous once again. She had a great win and PA and I look forward to helping her continue her success in the upcoming primaries.

  47. Jade, you are a peach. Obaiter…that’s funny. I wish Hill could tap into what you feel with other african american voters.

  48. Has any Hillary surrogate called BO campaign out on their race baiter, specifically the fact that the race card is pulled just ahead of deep southern state with AA majority?

  49. I am taking a day off ,but decided to come by and say hi.

    It is hot here in socal.

    a big ole white shark has killed some swimmer yesterday in a beach near here.

    Can you believ e my first thought on hearing that was I wonder if he was for Hillary or Obama.

    that’s why the day off 🙂

  50. Funny you should mention that Filbert. Real Clear Politics has an aticle “It’s race, stupid” where they argue BO’s problem is race. Wrong. He would never have attracted african americans with his Bill Bradley message if he were not african american. It’s such a fallacy. I am so tired of this crap.

  51. Chicago neighbor Indiana getting and Obama education:

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/former_obama_friend_stumps_for.html

    One bonus for Barack Obama (D-IL) as he campaigns in Indiana is that so many friends from his home state can just drive across the state line to help him out.

    Then again, it’s also a short trip for the occasional hometown pol who has been crossed by Obama, such as one featured guest doing the Hoosier tour today.

    Joining Chelsea Clinton and other women leaders to campaign for Hillary Clinton today is Alice Palmer, the former state senator who picked Obama to be her successor back in the mid-90s. When she tried to reclaim her spot, though, Obama got her booted from the ballot.

    The day of campaigning culminates tonight with a “Women for Hillary” rally in New Albany. The women plan to talk about Clinton’s plans for the economy, job creation and the middle class.

    Palmer’s story is more familiar in our town it is in Indiana, even in the northwest section of Hoosierland that consumes so much of the Chicago news media. Still, the national press has shown an interest in the early account of Obama playing hardball, and Palmer’s presence may remind some of them of the story.

  52. birdgal,
    Here’s the info. I will email you the position doc separately.
    Anyone else, this is an easy way to contact targeted SD’s.
    This super delegate is from Florida, iis a member of the DNC and his name is Rudolph Parker.

    1. Place a call to his office – 202/584-9656

    a. �Mention your name and where you are from
    b. �Make a brief statement why you support your candidate
    c. �Demand that Florida votes and its delegates need to be seated based on the January 29th primary results – no deals
    d. �Tell him how the Florida issue is impacting you today and how it may impact you in the GE (General Election)

    2. Send an email to rparker@perry.gulfnet.com

    Email text 2:

    Mr. Randolph – I am not a Florida voter but the longer I see Florida voters left behind, the more I feel I too am being left behind. �Something is seriously wrong when our own Democratic Party can not and appears unable to recognize the votes of millions. �This is not Democratic nor is if fair. �To me, the future of both the Democratic Party and the future of the United States is at jeopardy. �I stand with Florida voters in spirit and will do whatever I can to see that their votes and the resulting delegates are seated at the Democratic National Convention. �I am not sure I can vote for a Democratic Candidate that is chosen by ignoring a legal and legitimate primary – mandated by the Florida Legislature and sealed by the Secretary of State. �I welcome your response.

    Send a letter – Document Attached / Please to be sure to also include the position document.

    Rudolph Parker
    4400 Rudolph Parker Ln
    Perry, FL �32347

    .

  53. More Superdelegate Contact Info:

    Senator Jack Reed .. Rhode Island 202-224-4642 contact him Hillary won RI — he is supposed to be leaning Hillary

    Irene Stein .. Esquire .. NY … 718-375-3300 Leaning Clinton

    Congressman John Trerney .. Mass 202-225-8020 Leaning Clinton

    ********

    Also, remember than superdelegate votes do not count UNTIL THE ACTUAL DAY OF VOTING AT THE DNC CONVENTION …..

  54. With Hillary winning the margins she won in California, Texas, Ohio and PA .. why should any superdelegate even be wondering who can attract the votes to win in the GE. It’s simple and I don’t understand the angst among them.

  55. hey all!

    when you write to your superdelegates – remind them its critical at this time that superdelegates come out in support for their selected candidate and not allow people to ‘bully’ them to picking the next candidate

  56. There is a poll out in Indiana showing BO with a one point advantage. Apparently he is getting 66% support of young voters??? What is up in Indiana?

  57. I find the panel on lou dobbs did not even bring hillary up in conversation when talking about the fall…it seemed strange to me.

  58. CB:
    The three links to Evelyn Pringle’s excellent and direct (first three) in-depth articles outlining the chronological rise of Obama is amazing. What thorough sleuth work about this behind-the-scenes politico. These articles on “Scoop” Independent News are a MUST READ. For those who devour details – there are dates and details to keep you pouring for hours. Easy to follow trails and links across the city of Chicago, state of Illinois, United States, and the Middle East. And fortunately, more to come. What a fabulous education for the fence-sitter. This is a 527 GOLDMINE. Not to mention forwarding these three links to every SD and uncommitted endorser (Edwards). For the first time after reading through these insightful reads, I see where Obama doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell. Additionally, this doesn’t even touch on Wright and Ayers. The Republican Machine will completely deflate any chances he has. While Obama tries to paint Clinton as untrustworthy, she looks like Mother Theresa after reading these eye-opening exposes. Do yourself a favor, and save these as ‘Favorites’ and fire them out to anybody and everybody you know. And especially to those you don’t know.

  59. curiosity .. let basil know those links .. superdelegate contact is basil’s passion. I’ve listed more contact info for some of those I’ve found today.

    I’ve been working on my house offer all today with my agent .. not been online much or able to do much calling. Didn’t realize how much detail in selling a house!

  60. well, it was a bit strange….but as I am watching the show, it seems to focussed on discussing the obama/wright controversy.

  61. even lou said that he heard a comedian say another word for misspeak is lie. guess who they were talking about at the time?

  62. dot48 & basil9:
    Links under CB above –
    I just listed the posts again, but after hitting “submit”, they haven’t posted yet. Links are above under CB’s entry as well. Amazing articles. Simply fabulous investigative reporting. What Big Media should have been doing since Obama announced his intentions to seek the Presidency. Thank God for energetic reporters who seek the truth and not ratings.

  63. That’s true justme, and he really did focus alot on the obama/wright controversy. Maybe he had planned it that way to focus just on that topic.

  64. She didn’t lie. My lord, war stories always grow bigger in peoples memories. Gosh, why the hell can’t they give her a break?

  65. dot48:

    And if BHO’s lousy resume isn’t enough of a slap in the face – this weekend Chicago has all police force out on patrol, walking the beats, SWAT teams out, due to huge rash of gang murders the past week or so, especially last wekend. Special detail on the southside. Those in the know have said even with all the police protection – not near enough enforcement to get the job done. My God – it’s like they need the National Guard in the City of Chicago. Between the corruption in Chicago (that he’s a huge part of) and BHO not voting to give more power to the police in fighting crime and street gangs – it is hard to stomach that ANYONE could even consider throwing their vote behind BHO the LOSER.

  66. Thanks, basil, for the info! I’m all about contacting SDs.

    jade and terrondt, I really value hearing your input.

    Big media does follow the money–but only to lap it up. That’s why they and the DNC are falling all over themselves for Waffles. It’s all about the money. I too wonder where all those donations are really coming from. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. Life under Bush taught us that the media lies; we’ve learned to ignore them. They tell us she doesn’t stand a chance, but we vote for her anyway. They tell us *everyone* believes she should drop out, but the polls say otherwise. Asshats, Bush already played that trick. He fooled us once; we won’t be fooled again.

    OTOH, that Evelyn Pringle sure could use an editor. Also I wish there were more primary sources cited for these claims. I mean, if you’re doing that much footwork, you might as well say how and where you found the info. Some of it is cited, but only from other media (secondary) sources. Bummer. But good reading anyway.

    Rise, Hillary, Rise!

  67. I guess I was surprised lou said it, but he was really focussed on obama controversy, so maybe he felt he needed to say something about hillary to not just look like he was attacking obama???? shrug

  68. Everybody, we need to push, push, push big into Indiana and North Carolina. The next big drumbeat by the media is gonna be after 5/6 and we need to help Hill get the wins she needs. Wv and Ky are gonna be much easier for us .. it’ll be all about calling the voters and getting them out to “save” our girl from being thrown out of the battle. Ky and Wv will like having a say in helping save her candidacy and we can get them to the polls.

    But for now .. Indiana and North Carolina ..

  69. anyways, back at the ranch……cnn stated that both hillary and bo are at 45% in indiana with 10% undecided. that’s good news isn’t it as Hillary usually gets the undecided votes.

  70. yes, Hillary just needs to stay on message in Indiana, and blanket the state just like she did PA.

    GOTV efforts are crucial.

  71. BO has already pussied out on Hill’s proposal, claiming they’ve had the most debates in primary history and that he wants to speak directly to voters.

    Key Points: They’ve had just 3 or 4 debates head-to head, just 1 where they weren’t sitting on top of each other and were standing at lecturns. That was the last one, where BO got destroyed.
    10 million people tuned in, the numbers increasing as it went on.

    Talking directly to voters? A Lincoln-Douglas style matchup doesn’t accomplish that?
    Oh, I see, he means campaign. Like that’ll do him a lot of good.

    What happened to all the talk before PA that once Mr. Magic personally appeals to voters, he’s irresistible?

    Wolfsen should stick that in Axelrod’s eye first thing tomorrow morning.

  72. I am sure since Obama is appearing on Fox, they had to compromise somewhat and run something bad on Hillary! Don’t you think?

  73. Anyone catch the Rev. Wright interview?
    I’m going to get into it now.

    My understanding is Mr Moyers – who’s rightly been railing about falling journalistic standards for years – did quite a good job of sucking the Reverend’s cock.

  74. I wonder how Al Sharptons plans to close NYC will affect the primaries in IN and NC.

    Sharpton vows to ‘close this city’ after officer acquittals

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_re_us/police_shooting_protests

  75. wow
    blue i read the first line of your post and thought my god how could anyone call that an interview then i read on it was offensive to anyone with half a brain. moyers defines pathetic.

  76. Yes, I thought that “close the city” would be something to do right now, I guess a subliminal threat!

  77. Can someone please direct me to a post/link/anything where al sharpton made even a little sense? Personally i loathe the man but I would love to read something/anything where he made sense. I read him and i think tawaana brawley. If he has ever uttered something intelligent i would love to read.

  78. birdgal, I agree with you. People will come off and say, what was the big deal about Wright, he seems to be a decent guy

  79. Henry, I read the only reason he got the interview is their churches are affiliated and maybe (maybe not) they know each other.

    As Monica crowley (of all people!) said today on radio, they wanted to roll out Grandpa Wright. His speech Monday at the Nat’l Press Club will be more of the same.
    he was clearly briefed from what I saw, used the same ‘soundbites’ defense that Obama did. such a disgrace.

    A real journalist, in studio, would have made right watch and and ask what the fuck he was thinking, how could any american not be offeneded, and demeand answers on how frequently – and if any of those in particular – Obama was in attendance for.

    There’s a long list of appropriate questions, apparently Moyers asked none of them. Dick.

  80. yeah, but those people will want to find the rev. a decent guy, i don’t think the typical white, blue collar, undereducated people will think the ole’ rev. is a decent guy!!

  81. Wow, just went to realclearpolitics and looked/voted at bottom of homepage for best blog. Larry Sinclair youtube video from Puerto Rico on. What I found to be more interesting were posts re: Donald Young (20-year choir director from BHO’s church -TUCC – murdered on Christmas day) and Larry Sinclair’s connection to him. Sounds like Obama was having Young intervene with Sinclair. Supposedly, Young had Sinclair’s cell phone numbers. Insinuation is that BHO and Donald Young were lovers and Wright knew it. When Young’s murder didn’t get reported for over 48 hrs days before Iowa, I found that to be so strange as it should have been big news – but IMO it was a cover-up by Big Media, Obama camp, and Chicago PD. Big surprise. There’s just no end to the controversy surrounding BHO. We’ve only scratched the surface.

  82. wow
    have to apologize in advance for this but i think a waffle with arugala and i very pungent cheese(gorgonzola or feta) paired with a sweet tomao snd asparagus might be palatable,

  83. I know lots of church of christ folks, none are anywhere near, not in the category of the rev. There biggest thing is alcohol, don’t drink, don’t like people who drink it and of coarse they are the only ones going to heaven!LOL!!

  84. Henry-

    A funny spoof that would make a funny youtube video would be a takoff on HeeHaw’s “Hey Grandpa, What’s for Supper?” BHO trying to appeal to the rural voters:

    Putting BHO’s face on the donkey that says HeeHaw, with Axelrod, Dean, Brazile, and Pelosi jumping up out of the cornfield to talk about the chicken & dumplings, mustard greens, cornbread, purple hull peas, dewberry cobbler……….you get the picture

    HEEHAW!

  85. Two Syllables Three Syllables
    lebam
    eaean
    ilri
    deale
    deana
    oban
    deanean
    donon
    donma
    dena
    wrigile
    zilbam
    ondo
    wrian
    deaile
    dozile
    brazile
    dezile
    deama
    deanzil
    bradea
    amde
    dole
    rade
    zileigan
    obrigzi
    wriraan
    obigzile
    derazean
    braonna
    ilwrigob
    deanriile
    brazanam
    dorale
    obzilan
    brazzilna
    onwrizil
    deanazna
    donrigan
    wrirazan
    dezilma
    righdondon
    eanzilig
    ilerazil
    wrigrina
    rarigrigh
    wrigrighle
    righdeanzi
    dearighma

    Names if you combine: Obama, Dean, Brazile, Wright

  86. curiosity,
    thanks for posting the links. i will check them tomorrow when my brain has resuscitated. 😳

    rjk,

    Sharpton is a camera hogging media-mad fool and no one takes him seriously.

  87. curiosity
    very funny.
    i really believe the dnc and others never thought we would come this far. well i think its time to tell them that they have not seen anything yet. I will do everythng I can for Senator Clinton but should it happen that she is not nominee I will make sure every sole i have talked to in the last year remembers what i do. And I have they say something akin to photographic.

  88. Clinton gains add-on in NH; Obama gets a super in AZ, loses a delegate in IA (msn1)
    As diaried earlier, Clinton picked up the add-on superdelegate in New Hampshire. Also, Obama picked up a newly named superdelegate in Arizona. The AZ add-on has not endorsed anybody. We’re still waiting for the New Mexico add-on to be announced. Also, in Iowa, Obama lost 1 pledged delegate to John Edwards in the Iowa District Conventions today.
    (www.mydd.com)

  89. geeklove
    where are you?
    i eagerly await your next video entitled hypocrasy. The irony of his early statements is genius.–oh you haven’t made it yet, well i know you will

  90. Hi Folks,

    From the Clinton Camp – they really need help in Indiana. See email below. Please go to Indiana if you can! Thanks.

    Hi there!

    I just wanted to thank you all for doing such an amazing job helping us in Pennsylvania. You all were such an amazing group of Out-Of-State volunteers. We couldn’t have secured such a solid victory without your hard work and dedication. We’ve given the campaign some momentum to head into Indiana, but we really need you ALL on the ground here!

    I’ve moved from Philadelphia to Indianapolis to help coordinate all of the Out-of-State volunteers here. This is a key battleground and we have to keep fighting all the way to Denver. We could use you most during our Get-Out-The-Vote effort, which starts on May 2nd and continues through to the Primary on May 6th.

    Please let me know if you are willing, or if you know anyone willing, to come to Indiana and really help to secure yet another victory for Hillary!

    Looking forward to working with you all soon!

    Best,

    Melissa


    Melissa Vanzant
    Out of State Volunteer Coordinator
    Hillary Clinton for President
    445 N. Pennsylvania St.
    Suite 205, 2nd Floor
    Indianapolis, IN 46204
    (512) 658-8964 (W)
    mvanzant@hillaryclinton.com
    http://www.hillaryclinton.com

  91. Did you see this? The move is pure political genius. If Obama accepts, he gets his ass kicked. If he refuses, it keeps him on the defensive and he continues to look like a wimp:

    ——–
    Clinton challenges Obama to Lincoln-Douglas style debate

    By MIKE GLOVER and SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writers
    Saturday, April 26, 2008

    (04-26) 17:08 PDT Marion, Ind. (AP) —

    Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton turned up the rhetoric Saturday in their increasingly heated primary battle as she issued a new debate challenge and he complained of a race that’s largely been reduced to trivia while working families feel economic pain.

    Clinton took the debate dispute to a new level, challenging Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.

    “Just the two of us, going for 90 minutes, asking and answering questions, we’ll set whatever rules seem fair,” Clinton said while campaigning in South Bend.

    Her campaign made the offer formal with a letter to the Obama campaign.

    Obama aides said he had already debated Clinton 21 times, “the most in primary history.”

    “Over the next 10 days we believe it’s important to talk directly to the voters of Indiana and North Carolina,” said Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs.

    The more open style of debating where each side presents an argument gets its name from the famed debates that took place during the 1858 U.S. Senate race in Illinois between Republican Abraham Lincoln and Democrat Stephen Douglas.

    Trailing in delegates and the popular vote, Clinton has been stepping up the pressure on Obama for more debates in advance of primaries on May 6 in Indiana and North Carolina. Clinton argued that Obama won’t debate because he’s unhappy with questions from moderators during the April 16 debate just before the Pennsylvania primary. After that debate, Obama complained it focused too much on political trivia and too little on real issues.

    On the campaign trail Saturday, he sounded much the same theme.

    “I was convinced that the American people were tired of the politics that’s all about tearing each other down. The American people were tired of spin and PR, they wanted straight talk and honesty from their elected officials,” Obama said at a town hall meeting in the aging industrial city of Anderson.

    “If you watched the last few weeks of this campaign, you’d think that all politics is about is negative ads and bickering and arguing, gaffes and sideline issues,” said Obama. “There’s no serious discussion about how to bring jobs back, to Anderson.”

    Both rivals were focusing on Indiana, with Clinton bringing along popular Sen. Evan Bayh and talking about reviving the industrial economy.

    “We can do that again, but we need, as Senator Bayh said, a president who doesn’t just talk about it but who actually rolls up her sleeves and gets to work,” said Clinton.

    The two Democratic candidates were stumping in the heart of Republican territory, and Obama sought to reach across party lines, saying he’s struggled to avoid the back-and-forth bickering of the campaign, and talk about issues like plant closings that have damaged cities like Anderson.

    “I’ve been trying to resist that in this campaign and I will continue to resist it when I’m president of the United States,” said Obama.

    Clinton campaigned in eastern Indiana industrial pockets, seeking to build a coalition of working-class voters similar to the one that served her well in neighboring Ohio.

    While the upcoming primaries in Indiana and North Carolina are crucial to her candidacy, but Clinton deflected questions about how she would handle a loss.

    “I don’t make predictions or speculate on things that haven’t happened yet,” said Clinton.

    Obama is favored in North Carolina, but the polls have shown the race in Indiana far too close to call.

    With no end in sight soon for the Democratic contest, Obama sought to ease worries that the intraparty fight will leave the party vulnerable in November.

    “Everybody is kind of nervous about this Democratic primary, it’s been going on a long time,” said Obama. “I have my differences with Senator Clinton and she has her differences with me. We will be united in November and beat John McCain and the Republicans.”

    Obama also underscored his differences with McCain, the certain GOP nominee.

    “John McCain says he’s different, but when you look at his policies he’s got no agenda for you, how to make you a little more successful,” Obama told his heavily blue-collar audience. “We know in our hearts that this country is not going down the right track. Something needs to change right now and that’s what’s at stake in this election.”

    In Anderson, Obama noted that McCain has switched views on issues like tax cuts for the rich to curry favor with the GOP base. “The straight talk express lost a wheel,” said Obama.

    McCain’s campaign was quick to respond. “This again shows that Barack Obama doesn’t understand the economy. Americans are looking for proof that the next president is going to be someone who understands their needs,” McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said in a statement.

    While Clinton was busy campaigning in the Hoosier state, husband Bill was looking ahead to Oregon’s Democratic primary on May 20. The former president was in his second day of a swing around Oregon, stopping Saturday in the small towns that dot the Willamette Valley before winding up in Portland on Saturday night.

    In Albany, Ore., he outlined his wife’s plans for energy independence, and highlighted her vote against a Bush administration bill that gave final say over the siting of liquefied natural gas terminals to the federal government, instead of the states. Several such terminals are under consideration now in Oregon.

    He also promised the crowd that if elected, the former first lady would restore federal payments to timber dependent counties.

    ___

    Sara Kugler reported from South Bend, Ind.

  92. Your quote of the day:

    “Everybody is kind of nervous about this Democratic primary, it’s been going on a long time,” said Obama.

  93. Spega’s list of local media sites is up now. NC and IN are up at that page too.

    This is a very important project. Surveys show that many voters, especially women, get primary contest news from local papers and local news internet sites because they trust them more than the national news media.

    So this is a way to get the facts out that MSM suppresses: by responding to relevant stories or just working them in to any comment string, or starting threads on them in general forums on those local sites.

    You can just jump in, or you can contact the organizer, spabeles /at/ patriot /dot/ net , for support and more info.

    h t t p : / / ironmyvote.com/comment-local-papers.htm#westvirginia

  94. from TM: window was “broken” in a Hillary campaign office in Durham, NC

    “Clearly this sinker was fired from a non-rifled air or gas propelled gun of some kind. A rifled barrel sends a straight shot. From the impact mark on the sinker it travelled end over end. The door was plexiglass. For it to be impacted the way it is from the distance it was fired (it was from a passing car) this was no little bb gun.

    There is a bb hole in another window. I noticed it this morning and will have to contact the landlord to find out whether it was there before we moved in.

    This is fucked. Obviously we are rattled, but we won’t back down.”

  95. Obamas fox interview is going to be lay up. Why would he agree to an interview and bill it as “taking on fox” unless he knew it would be a cake walk?

  96. Obama gave a populist message as he tried to reach the kind of working class voters who handed victory to Clinton in Tuesday’s Pennsylvania primary election.

    “If the economy’s growing and your incomes are going down, what’s happening? It means that somebody’s making out like a bandit,” Obama told about 2,000 people in the city of Marion, citing tax cuts under the Bush administration that benefited the wealthy and not the middle class.

    Obama spoke out against halting a tax on gasoline during the summer months, a move supported by Clinton and presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, saying it may not bring down prices and would deplete a fund used for building highways.

    “The only way we’re going to lower gas prices over the long term is if we start using less oil,” Obama said in Anderson.

    Indiana holds its nominating contest on May 6 and polls show the race to be tight. Like other Americans, the state’s residents are concerned about high fuel prices, a mortgage crisis, job losses and a sputtering economy.

    Clinton launched an ad calling for a suspension of the gasoline tax.

    “Hillary Clinton knows it’s time to act, take some of the windfall profits of big oil to pay to suspend the gas tax this summer, investigate the oil giants for price gouging and collusion,” the ad said.

    McCain, taking the day off from the campaign trail, said through a spokesman that Obama had retreated from earlier support for action on gasoline prices.

    “Gas prices are at the all-time high, and instead of taking a strong stance for hard-working Americans, Barack Obama has backed away from his support for gas tax relief,” Tucker Bounds said in a statement.

    “Americans need strong leadership that can deliver lower gas prices and a healthier economy, not Barack Obama’s inexperience and indecision.”
    http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN26414816
    *****************************************************
    Obama is another TAX n SPEND NEO LIB…Have anybody been to Chicago lately….they tax everything and still don’t have good public service.

    We’re heading into a recession and this Anti American Arugala has not done anything for the people of the United States…oh I forgot he’s gotten the dead to walk again and donate to his campaign.

    Hey. Roy Schneider did Obama conduct a psychic reading over your grave that worked a miracle and parted the dirt, opened the casket and handed you and pre-pay card with Obama’s campaign address?

  97. i saw this on ,,taylormarsh.com

    so i thought to paste it here ,,so if any of u interested ,,,,,,

    ——————————————————————————–
    Travel to Indiana to help Hillary! posted by Tim
    04.26.2008 – 9:49 pm
    Hi there!

    I just wanted to thank you all for doing such an amazing job helping us in Pennsylvania. You all were such an amazing group of Out-Of-State volunteers. We couldn’t have secured such a solid victory without your hard work and dedication. We’ve given the campaign some momentum to head into Indiana, but we really need you ALL on the ground here!

    I’ve moved from Philadelphia to Indianapolis to help coordinate all of the Out-of-State volunteers here. This is a key battleground and we have to keep fighting all the way to Denver. We could use you most during our Get-Out-The-Vote effort, which starts on May 2nd and continues through to the Primary on May 6th.

    Please let me know if you are willing, or if you know anyone willing, to come to Indiana and really help to secure yet another victory for Hillary!

    Looking forward to working with you all soon!

    Best,

    Melissa


    Melissa Vanzant
    Out of State Volunteer Coordinator
    Hillary Clinton for President
    445 N. Pennsylvania St.
    Suite 205, 2nd Floor
    Indianapolis, IN 46204
    (512) 658-8964 (W)
    mvanzant@hillaryclinton.com
    http://www.hillaryclinton.com

  98. this too ,,,i saw it somewhere ,,so thought of sharing it with u guys ,,,,,

    http://makethemaccountable.com/index.php/2008/04/26/media-080426/

    its the funniest cartoon ,,,,and

    Obama’s ‘Distractions’? (by Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post)
    [Barack] Obama understands that the real threat to his candidacy is less Hillary Clinton and John McCain than his own character and cultural attitudes. He came out of nowhere with his autobiography already written, then saw it embellished daily by the hagiographic coverage and kid-gloves questioning of a supine press. (Which is why those “Saturday Night Live” parodies were so devastatingly effective.) Then came the three amigos: Tony Rezko, the indicted fixer; Jeremiah Wright, the racist reverend; William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist. And then Obama’s own anthropological observation that “bitter” working-class whites cling to guns and religion because they misapprehend their real class interests…

  99. The New York Times catches up with what we wrote months ago and repeated recently. Superdelegates beware, Obama will destroy the Democratic Party in the general elections:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/us/politics/26ticket.html

    Senator Barack Obama is starring in a growing number of campaign commercials, but the latest batch is being underwritten by Republicans.

    In a sign that the racial, class and values issues simmering in the presidential campaign could spread into the larger political arena, Republican groups are turning recent bumps in Mr. Obama’s road — notably his comment that small-town Americans “cling” to guns and religion out of bitterness and a fiery speech by his former minister in which he condemned the United States — into attacks against Democrats down the ticket.

    “The public, week by week, is becoming more familiar with his big-government, far-left vision for America,” said Ed Patru, a spokesman for Freedom’s Watch, an advocacy organization that is portraying Mr. Obama as ultraliberal in an advertisement running in Louisiana before a special election for a House seat.

    —————

    “There were times when Republicans reacted with just horror that he would lead the ticket,” said Stuart Rothenberg, a nonpartisan political analyst. “Now there is not the sense of him being invulnerable, the magic bullet. I think there has been a major change.”

    The growing Republican emphasis on Mr. Obama could also help Mrs. Clinton plead her case that she is more electable, bolstering her argument to superdelegates that Republicans are poised to pounce on her relatively untested opponent. Her advisers have been frustrated that some top Democrats rate Mrs. Clinton a greater liability for the party’s candidates in conservative parts of the country — a view still held by some strategists — even though she has shown a capacity to withstand Republican attacks.

    ————

    The Republican House and Senate campaign organizations have seized on the remark on bitter voters in particular, encouraging their candidates to make the most of it. Advertisements have been placed on the Internet, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee assembled videos for targeted states that replay Mr. Obama’s comments as somber music builds. “Mary Landrieu. A Democratic superdelegate,” says the video, referring to the Louisiana senator, who is seeking re-election this year. “Will she cast her vote for Obama?”

    ————–

    A state party advertisement in North Carolina has come under fire even from leading Republicans. It shows a grainy clip of the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., Mr. Obama’s former pastor, cursing the United States, and it notes the endorsement of Mr. Obama by two Democratic candidates for North Carolina governor. “He’s just too extreme for North Carolina,” the commercial concludes of Mr. Obama.

    ———
    In Louisiana, Freedom’s Watch’s six-figure ad purchase seeks to tie the Democratic contender, Don Cazayoux, to Mr. Obama’s “big-government scheme” for health care. Another commercial in that race, by the National Republican Congressional Committee, claims that Mr. Cazayoux shares Mr. Obama’s “radical health care agenda.” The House campaign group has also been pressing Democratic contenders to disavow Mr. Obama’s remark on rural Americans.

    ————
    The emerging advertising effort against Mr. Obama raises the possibility that, if he is elected, similar commercials could be broadcast in conservative districts around the country this fall, as Republicans try to undermine Democrats who have endorsed him. “Conventional wisdom has been that we want to run against Hillary,” said Representative Jack Kingston, Republican of Georgia, who said Mr. Obama had provided evidence to the contrary. “I don’t think he has connected with the average Joe. I do think he feels like people are bitter.”

  100. from TM. NYT OP-ED Piece;

    Op-Ed Contributor
    Bowling 1, Health Care 0
    by ELIZABETH EDWARDS
    Published: April 27, 2008
    Chapel Hill, NC

    FOR the last month, news media attention was focused on Pennsylvania and its Democratic primary. Given the gargantuan effort, what did we learn?

    Well, the rancor of the campaign was covered. The amount of money spent was covered. But in Pennsylvania, as in the rest of the country this political season, the information about the candidates’ priorities, policies and principles — information that voters will need to choose the next president — too often did not make the cut. After having spent more than a year on the campaign trail with my husband, John Edwards, I’m not surprised.

    Why? Here’s my guess: The vigorous press that was deemed an essential part of democracy at our country’s inception is now consigned to smaller venues, to the Internet and, in the mainstream media, to occasional articles. I am not suggesting that every journalist for a mainstream media outlet is neglecting his or her duties to the public. And I know that serious newspapers and magazines run analytical articles, and public television broadcasts longer, more probing segments.

    But I am saying that every analysis that is shortened, every corner that is cut, moves us further away from the truth until what is left is the Cliffs Notes of the news, or what I call strobe-light journalism, in which the outlines are accurate enough but we cannot really see the whole picture.

    It is not a new phenomenon. In 1954, the Army-McCarthy hearings — an important if painful part of our history — were televised, but by only one network, ABC. NBC and CBS covered a few minutes, snippets on the evening news, but continued to broadcast soap operas in order, I suspect, not to invite complaints from those whose days centered on the drama of “The Guiding Light.”

    The problem today unfortunately is that voters who take their responsibility to be informed seriously enough to search out information about the candidates are finding it harder and harder to do so, particularly if they do not have access to the Internet.

    Did you, for example, ever know a single fact about Joe Biden’s health care plan? Anything at all? But let me guess, you know Barack Obama’s bowling score. We are choosing a president, the next leader of the free world. We are not buying soap, and we are not choosing a court clerk with primarily administrative duties.

    What’s more, the news media cut candidates like Joe Biden out of the process even before they got started. Just to be clear: I’m not talking about my husband. I’m referring to other worthy Democratic contenders. Few people even had the chance to find out about Joe Biden’s health care plan before he was literally forced from the race by the news blackout that depressed his poll numbers, which in turn depressed his fund-raising.

    And it’s not as if people didn’t want this information. In focus groups that I attended or followed after debates, Joe Biden would regularly be the object of praise and interest: “I want to know more about Senator Biden,” participants would say.

    But it was not to be. Indeed, the Biden campaign was covered more for its missteps than anything else. Chris Dodd, also a serious candidate with a distinguished record, received much the same treatment. I suspect that there was more coverage of the burglary at his campaign office in Hartford than of any other single event during his run other than his entering and leaving the campaign.

    Who is responsible for the veil of silence over Senator Biden? Or Senator Dodd? Or Gov. Tom Vilsack? Or Senator Sam Brownback on the Republican side?

    The decision was probably made by the same people who decided that Fred Thompson was a serious candidate. Articles purporting to be news spent thousands upon thousands of words contemplating whether he would enter the race, to the point that before he even entered, he was running second in the national polls for the Republican nomination. Second place! And he had not done or said anything that would allow anyone to conclude he was a serious candidate. A major weekly news magazine put Mr. Thompson on its cover, asking — honestly! — whether the absence of a serious campaign and commitment to raising money or getting his policies out was itself a strategy.

    I’m not the only one who noticed this shallow news coverage. A report by the Project for Excellence in Journalism and the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy found that during the early months of the 2008 presidential campaign, 63 percent of the campaign stories focused on political strategy while only 15 percent discussed the candidates’ ideas and proposals.

    Watching the campaign unfold, I saw how the press gravitated toward a narrative template for the campaign, searching out characters as if for a novel: on one side, a self-described 9/11 hero with a colorful personal life, a former senator who had played a president in the movies, a genuine war hero with a stunning wife and an intriguing temperament, and a handsome governor with a beautiful family and a high school sweetheart as his bride. And on the other side, a senator who had been first lady, a young African-American senator with an Ivy League diploma, a Hispanic governor with a self-deprecating sense of humor and even a former senator from the South standing loyally beside his ill wife. Issues that could make a difference in the lives of Americans didn’t fit into the narrative template and, therefore, took a back seat to these superficialities.

    News is different from other programming on television or other content in print. It is essential to an informed electorate. And an informed electorate is essential to freedom itself. But as long as corporations to which news gathering is not the primary source of income or expertise get to decide what information about the candidates “sells,” we are not functioning as well as we could if we had the engaged, skeptical press we deserve.

    And the future of news is not bright. Indeed, we’ve heard that CBS may cut its news division, and media consolidation is leading to one-size-fits-all journalism. The state of political campaigning is no better: without a press to push them, candidates whose proposals are not workable avoid the tough questions. All of this leaves voters uncertain about what approach makes the most sense for them. Worse still, it gives us permission to ignore issues and concentrate on things that don’t matter. (Look, the press doesn’t even think there is a difference!)

    I was lucky enough for a time to have a front-row seat in this campaign — to see all this, to get my information firsthand. But most Americans are not so lucky. As we move the contest to my home state, North Carolina, I want my neighbors to know as much as they possibly can about what these men and this woman would do as president.

    If voters want a vibrant, vigorous press, apparently we will have to demand it. Not by screaming out our windows as in the movie “Network” but by talking calmly, repeatedly, constantly in the ears of those in whom we have entrusted this enormous responsibility. Do your job, so we can — as voters — do ours.

    Elizabeth Edwards, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, is the author of “Saving Graces.”

    nytimes.com/2008/04/27/opinion/27edwards.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin#

  101. Even that vulture, Maureen Dowd, beats up on weak Obama (Dowd also devotes some paragraphs to beat up on Hillary):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/opinion/27dowd.html?hp

    Hillary grows more and more glowy as Obama grows more and more wan.

    Is she draining him of his precious bodily fluids? Leeching his magic? Siphoning off his aura?

    It used to be that he was incandescent and she was merely inveterate. Now she’s bristling with life force, and he looks like he wants to run away somewhere for three months by himself and smoke.

    ————-
    Hillary is not getting much sleep or exercise, and doesn’t, like the ascetic Obama, abstain from junk food and coffee and get up at dawn to work out on the road. She’s still a long shot and she’s 14 years older than her rival.

    Yet she’s the one who is more energetic and focused and beaming, and he’s the one who seems uneven and gauzy, often fatigued and unable to disguise being fed up with the slog. Even his speeches don’t have the same pizazz.

    A man at a sports bar in Latrobe, Pa., advised Obama, “Get some sleep, Barack, you look like you’re tired, man.”

    ———–

    At Joe’s Junction gas station in Indianapolis, Obama did his best to shoo away the pesky elitist label. Accused by an Indianapolis reporter of looking like a GQ cover, he said he has only four pairs of shoes and buys “five of the same suit and then I patch them up and wear them repeatedly.” But his campaign refused to reveal the brand, presumably because it’s not J. C. Penney.

    He dutifully enthused about carbs, assuring reporters that when he had dinner as a child with his Kansas grandparents, the food “would have been very familiar to anybody here in Indiana. A lot of pot roast, potatoes and Jell-O molds.”

    But then he resumed wry whingeing about his 37 bowling score, explaining that he finished only seven frames, including two that “were bowled by a 10-year-old” and another by a 3-year-old.

    “I don’t want to go out of my way to sort of prove my street cred as a down-to-earth guy,” he said, after going out of his way. “People know me.”

    Not yet, but we will, one of these years.

  102. Maureen Dowd is slime, and I can’t read her. Amazing, Hillary is becoming stronger and stronger, and Waffles is becoming more tired, as evidenced by: “Get some sleep, Barack, you look like you’re tired, man.”

    Frankly, I want Hillary in the White House. She’ll be strong enough to answer that 3 a.m. phone call. She doesn’t whine. She is used to working at least twice as hard, as her male peers. Waffles is not up to the task of being a CIC, and like a long movie, he wants the campaign over, already. But, Hillary will not end the movie, because she likes long movies, and she is more tenacious, determined, and stronger than Waffles.

  103. But then he resumed wry whingeing about his 37 bowling score, explaining that he finished only seven frames, including two that “were bowled by a 10-year-old” and another by a 3-year-old.

    “I don’t want to go out of my way to sort of prove my street cred as a down-to-earth guy,” he said, after going out of his way. “People know me.”
    ****************************************************
    Obama goes out of his way to put the blame on his dismal bowling on a 10 year old and 3 year old. How eye opening is this man character and value…that he could not stand with dignity and grace his bad bowling and had to get behind innocent children.

    So Team Obama is like the TITANTIC, sinking with captain Obama getting into the lifeboats before little babies and children…..drip, drip, drip…Obama just threw the babies off the train.

    Choo, Choo…the little train that couldn’t.

  104. ANYONE IN DC METRO AREA: Please pass this on!!!!!
    We are trying to organize a protest outside the National Press Club on Monday at 8 a.m.
    Please contact me if you can come: spabeles@patriot.net

    NPC Day Book: Event Details
    Event Name: Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright
    Event Date: Apr. 28, 2008
    Event Type: NPC Breakfast
    Time: 8:30 AM
    Sponsored by: Speakers Committee
    Event Location: Ballroom
    Details: The Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., senior pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, will discuss the role of faith in the public square in a presentation entitled, The African American Religious Experience; Theology & Practice, at a National Press Club breakfast on April 28th.
    Dr. Wright will also talk about his pastorate, his development as a theologian and teacher, and the how the issues of social justice and global inequities have shaped his faith and his fight for those who are most marginalized in society. He will address the legacy and tradition of education in his family. And Dr. Wright will put into perspective theologically, historically and politically, his ministry and public service that has been so widely discussed in the media.
    Dr. Wright will retire from Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago in June, where he served the 8,000-member congregation for 36 years. While at Trinity he developed nearly 100 active ministries/outreach programs and seven separate corporations that continue to serve the greater Chicago community. He is a sought after lecturer and teacher and speaks at some of the nation’s most prestigious universities and seminaries.

    The National Press Club breakfast will begin promptly at 8:30 a.m.
    The National Press Club is located at 14th and F Streets, NW, one block west of Metro Center. More information about the Club and its programs is found on its Internet website: press.org.

    THIS EVENT IS SOLD OUT.

  105. “Is she draining him of his precious bodily fluids?”

    Is this a double entendre?

    Is Maureen Dowd an ignorant slut?

  106. ELIZABETH EDWARDS – NY Times OP 4/27/08

    ——————————————————————————–

    Mrs. Edwards is not happy with the media.

    Bowling 1 – Health Care 0

  107. mj,
    That’s a good idea. She could do it open ended, until there are no more questions.

    It’d be exhausting but the press just might eat it up…

  108. It would be like a town hall meeting.

    Sonia: the edwards article is posted above.

    argula=fancy bitter lettuce.

  109. You folks are going to LOVE this:

    OBAMA: VOTERS FINE, I’M BITTER

    Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to mend fences with working-class voters today, telling his audience at a campaign rally in Indiana, “The voters are fine – I’m the one who’s bitter.”

    Sen. Obama’s use of the word “bitter” to describe himself raised eyebrows among many on the campaign trail, since it is a word that has gotten him into trouble in the past.

    But at the rally in Indianapolis, Mr. Obama made it clear that he, and not the voters, have something to be bitter about.

    “You want to talk bitter?” Obama said to his audience. “How about losing the Pennsylvania primary after you were supposed to have this nomination locked up – that’ll make you bitter, for damn sure.”

    Sen. Obama said that after Rev. Wright controversy, the ABC News debate, the flag lapel criticism, and the “red phone” ads, “You can bet your ass I know a thing or two about who’s bitter.”

    In a revealing comment, the Illinois senator said that when he becomes bitter, he looks “for something to cling to.”

    “Bitter people need to cling to something,” he said. “Right now, I’m clinging to my delegate lead.”

    Despite his “bitter” comments, Mr. Obama’s rally ended on a rousing note, with the candidate leading the crowd in his new campaign slogan, “Yes, we’re pissed.”

  110. It’s a parody. Some serious shit now, good stuff from TL;

    Her 214,000-vote margin in the Keystone State means that she has won the votes, in primaries and caucuses, of 15,112,000 Americans, compared to 14,993,000 for Obama.

    If you add in the votes, as estimated by the folks at realclearpolitics.com, in the Iowa, Nevada, Washington and Maine caucuses, where state Democratic parties did not count the number of caucus-attenders, Clinton still has a lead of 12,000 votes.

    Barone says even with a loss in North Carolina, Hillary may keep the lead if she does well, as expected in W.Va and Kentucky and Puerto Rico.
    __________________________________________________________

    The Associated Press reports on the state of the electoral map and says right now it favors Democrats. It includes 14 states as battleground states that could go either way.

    William Arnone, long-time Democratic party activist and the author of the key state series I’ve quoted many times, has just finished his preliminary electoral vote preview and again graciously agreed to let me publish it.

    Arnone says there are 17 battle ground states among the 50 states and the District of Columbia, which also has electoral votes.

    As to Hillary or Obama, who’s more likely to get the Dems over the 270 mark? Arnone says it’s Hillary.

  111. From NYT:

    The Democratic candidates have debated 21 times, though as Mrs. Clinton pointed out, only four of those debates were between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama only.

    Ah, finally!! Think she’s reading Hillis44?

  112. With four delegates up for grabs in caucuses on May 3, Guam is a player in the Democratic primaries for the first time. Though island residents cannot vote in the general election, they can help choose a presidential nominee. In fact, Guamanians need not be registered voters to participate. While the caucuses are open only to registered Democrats, people can sign up on site.

    Guam Democrats will choose eight delegates, each of whom will get half a vote at the Democratic National Convention. The precinct in Inarajan will vote earlier, on Saturday, because of a conflict with the village fiesta. (Don’t you just hate when your partying gets in the way of your voting?) The results from that contest will be kept confidential until the rest of the voting is done.

  113. This is telling – I think – as far as all those calls for the delegates to declare and the race to end somewhere around June 3;
    Note where they say ‘after PA’, as if that signaled something inside BO headquarters that this is far from finished..

    “With seemingly no end to the Democratic campaign in sight, Sen. Barack Obama’s traveling press aide went to the Chicago apartment she has seen a dozen times since December, put her belongings into storage and let her lease lapse. She is now officially homeless.

    “This race gives new meaning to that phrase ‘marathon, not a sprint,’ but these last few months have been more like sprinting through a marathon,” said Psaki, who saw no reason to keep paying rent after Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s win in Pennsylvania. “Nobody expected it to go this long.”

  114. I would NEVER, EVER vote for Barack Hussein Obama he is an anti-American communist! He goes to a Marxist Chursh, his Friends are Anti-American Marxists and he is currently using his Campaign website as a recruiting tool for Marxists and Anti-American terrorists. This is a FACT!!!

    Obama write glowing prose in his books about his spiritual mentor Dr. Wright known Black Liberation Theologist from the Black Liberation Movement who gave aid and comfort to the Weathermen and the Black Panthers…these groups where devout Marxist and saw the Soviet Union as their motherland.

    Jim Clyburn, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Bill Richardson Big Media has NO problem with Barack Hussein Obama’s close relationships personal and professional with known Anti-American TERRORISTS inside or outside our country.

    But Hillary Clinton is the evil one???..she’s being too hard on Obambi because she living up to her God giving potential and believes in our country to FIGHT for her right to present her case to the voters.

    I WILL consider any democratic politician who support Obama to be in agreement with his belief system too….too much information is coming out about this guy and the RED FLAGS and ALARMS are going CODE RED!!!

    Clyburn need to resign his position as MAJORITY WHIP his credibility and judgement is highly suspect and borders on arrogance to the extreme that Obama would pass the smell text.

    I would love to see Clyburn at Arlington National Cemetary walking past those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country, to protect our freedoms and the security of our nation…then to see the spectacule of Willaim” I never knewn a bomb I didn’t love” Ayers and Bernardine “Kill your parent” Dohrn being supporters of a Barack Hussein Obama leading candidate for the democratic nomination for POTUS.

    Shameful!!!!

  115. Arguably, none of this would matter if Ayers and Dohrn had long ago repudiated their violent extremism. But they have always refused to apologize for their monstrous behavior. “We weren’t extreme enough in fighting against the war,” Ayers told the Chicago Tribune in 2001. In a memoir published that year, he exulted: “Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon.” America, he said after Sept. 11, “is not a just and fair and decent place. . . . It makes me want to puke.”

    Is this Obama’s idea of “respectable” and “mainstream” political thinking? If so, doesn’t that tell us something about his judgment and standards?

    In Chicago the other day, radio producer Guy Benson discovered video recordings of Ayers and Dohrn speaking at a reunion of antiwar radicals in November 2007. To live in the United States, Dohrn told the group, is to be “inside the heart of the monster” that is such a “purveyor of violence in the world.” Ayers denounced America as an imperial warmonger steeped in “jingoistic patriotism, unprecedented and unapologetic military expansion, white supremacy . . . attacks on women and girls, violent attacks, growing surveillance in every sphere of our lives, on and on and on.”
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/04/27/obamas_mainstream_friends/
    *****************************************************
    I guest the young men and women fighting over in Iraq and Afganistan are baby monsters that should be denounced and bombed based on the philosophy of the unrepented Weathermen.

  116. South Carolina Democratic Congressman Jim Clyburn has expressed his worry about the tone of the party’s race for the nomination and criticized the Hillary Clinton campaign harshly for how it has dealt with Barack Obama.

    Jim Clyburn criticizes the Clintons for “demonizing” Obama.”I think a lot of Clinton surrogates have been marginalizing, demonizing and trivializing Obama,” said the undeclared super delegate, who worried the Democrats will lose in the fall if Americans lose faith in the election process.
    abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4731091
    *****************************************************
    Hey Jim,

    This African American female is a PROUD Hillary Clinton Supporter and thinks you should resign you position as House Majority Whip because it appears you are TERRIBLE at your job. Because of you, Donna Brazile, Howard Dean and the other WEAK Democrat party leaders have put us in the position to LOSE the White House and the Senate is Barack Hussein Obama is our party nominee.

    Oh I forgot will you tell “Damien” to stop raising the dead and having them send money to his campaign using prepaid cards. Because I didn’t know dead people had bank accounts but it seem this happen regularly in Chicago where 700,000 dead people were raised from the dead and voted and sent money in support of ODamien.

    Roy Schneider said “Hi” and he hoped his 50 dollars will bring a change to his environment because he is totally invested in the Koolaid.

  117. carbynew
    if ya see geeklove here i implore you to ask her to do one of her videos contrasting the statements of ayers with those of new yorkers in the days after sept 11 discussinf the smell in the air. in a million years I will never forget that and all it represents.

  118. well if the superdelegates look at the projected electoral map .. they’ll start running to Clinton NOW.

    He’s a loser for the party who wants him so bad they don’t give a crap if he loses the presidency. Never thought I’d see this day. So for all those who say it’s about who can win the White House … see the light people .. it’ ain’t SaintObama. His halo has become detached and HELLO, he’s just a politician .. thats what his best friend Rev Wright says.

    Everyone send Hannity that link on Ayers and the Reunion .. hannity @ foxnews. com

  119. amazing article by Elizabeth Edwards also.

    What you wanna bet her next article compares both Health Care plans .. and then she’ll endorse Hillary

  120. BRADZILLA on Stephanopolous says if Waffles doesn’t get the nomination “There will be Blood.” STFU Bradzillahead

    She says Waffles is bringing in young voters. So what. those young voters historically don’t show up to vote and have shallow pockets.

    Idiot Michael Dowd acknowledging that his 3 sons, 18, 20, 22, are for Waffles and will be turned off by politics if he isn’t the nominee and probably won’t vote.

    👿 I will send letters to another dozen NC newspapers today. Gotta make HRC 44.

  121. OH SH!T!!!!

    Now bradzillahead is defending Wright, saying an attack on him is an attack on the BLACK CHURCH!!!!!!

    Saying Waffles DIDN’T play the race card. He’s in the lead in pledged delegates, states won, popular vote, blahblahblah . . .

    OK. We GOTTA get her fired from commentating on any show. Her bias is undeniable. Also have to complain to the DNC about allowing the RBC Chair to spout her partisan sh!t on air. 😈

  122. Morning Henry,
    yeah – she is unbelievable. I’m convincned she’s behind the HRC take-over. From the RBL sanctioning of Florida on August 25, 2007 (check the c-span video of the entire proceedings) and then tell me she didn’t PLAN this) to the gathering of AA leaders to discuss an AA POTUS, blast summer . . . .
    And after Carville and begala were banned for partisanship (theyore back on air) and yet she’s been shooting off her mouth on Waffles behalf for months
    Well, you can tell I’m no Bradzillahead fan.
    Deaniac on Pumpinhead, now.

  123. Well,
    Deaniac IS saying that after the last 9 primaries the SD’s will have a sense of which candidate can win in the GE and that will be the deciding factor in their decisions. Pumpkinhead trying to get him to commit to a Waffles nomination but, to his credit, Deaniac isn’t falling for that.
    Elected delegates represent the will of the people – Deanica says, BUT, SD’s ALSO represent the will of the people. Ohhhh he is squirming and Pumpkinhead furiousy trying to pin him down but no banana.
    Pumkin saying does that mean the person with the most elected delegates should win the election and Deaniac says no (paraphrasing) the SD’s can vote their ‘gestalt’.

  124. The Delegate vote fight is not over after the election in each state. I notice a few days ago a post about the Uncommitteds in Michigan.

    This weekend we had our State Delegate Election here in New Mexico. The State Chair who is undeclared, but has staff the state office with Obama people, tried a power play. We have to reach a certain cultural balance in our delegates, and after the county elections the week before, we had no Native Americans. At the Affirmative action meeting earlier in the week, I was told he had indicated he was going to appoint a noncommited, and that each campaign should nominate a native American.

    Saturday, when the Hillary people arrived at the convention in the morning, many of their posters and sign had been vandilized. Initially there was some indication that the Hillary delegation would be sent outside to conduct their Delegate vote. However, the final delegate count turned out to be 107 vs 138 for Hillary. The Chair then decided that the Hillary delegates would stay inside.

    Then he announce he was appointing all of the Native American Delegates (which were Obama). The LTG Diane Denish was ready, and so were the State Hillary lawyers. We fought, and we were able to get our Native American Delegate in by writing the name on the ballots.

    There were even verbal encounters amoung the Obama Hillary delegates before we seperated.

    Folks, here in New Mexico, we felt we held our own. However, the people posting on this site need to remember that it is not over after the vote. There are these noncommitted delegates and these delegate elections that go on after the election that are critical also. You can observe this process, even if you are not a delegate.

    The Obama camp is trying to inflitrate these elections, and place Obama people not only in the non-commited slots, but also in the Hillary slots.

    This politcal process is much more complex and open to mis representation than we ever thought it could be.

    Oh Yes, Governor Richardson did not appear at this function. He has not appeared before his fellow Democrats here in New Mexico since he declared for Obama. He is obviously afraid to address his electors. I was told by one of the Obama camp, that he thinks he is above the electorate. How is that for elitism. I guess he is drinking the Obama Elite Kook Aid. By the way, he cannot be elected here again, as you are limited to 2 terms and this is his second.

    Please be away of the actual Delegate elections in all of the states that have had their primaries. The fight continues after the election at these primaries and they are critical.

  125. Oh please,
    Deaniac stressing that 48 states followed the rules, Florida and Michigan didn’t, the other 48 states shouldn’t be punished, he will uphold the process, Florida and Mi will be seated SOME WAY . . .
    Basically he confirmed that it’s a 48 state strategy and my interpretation is that he will fight any attempt to have Fl and Mi count until aaaaaafter the nominee is decided. (he didn’t say that but whatever conclusion can you arrive at?)
    that’s my interpretation. Please, anyone else who watched MTP, chime in with how you heard it.

  126. Newmexicofan,

    Thanks for the info! So does that mean so far HRC has 31 more delegates than Waffles, 137 for her and 107 for him? I didn’t quite follow that.

    Also, great work in ‘holding your own.’ 😀

  127. Braziles “There will be blood” comment is what they are using to scare the super delegates into voting Obama IMO. I think this needs to be brought into the open. No democracy should function via threats.

  128. You’re kidding, right? About BHO telling a group of supporters that he’s bitter? Then closed with a chorus of, “Yes, we’re pissed?” If true, this is beyond deplorable. Basically, people don’t appreciate any of this pathetic ranting – especially the chorus – it’s very insulting and shows the crass nature of BHO and MO. Surprise.

    As far Donna Brazile saying, “There will be blood”, when I posted yesterday to look up “Recreate68” the ACLU-led anti-Americanism violence designed for the Denver Dem convention, I knew right then – that this is what the DNC is using as there scare tactic. They are, in essence – inciting violence by not denouncing this movement, thus condoning it. To me, that’s reason alone (besides FL & MI) to DEMAND DEAN, BRAZILE, PELOSI RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.

    People, we are watching a slow-motion coup take place before our eyes, with the extreme far-left wing OVERTHROW our Democratic Party, while we just stand by in awe, with our jaxs on the ground. Since violence isn’t part of our make-up, we reluctantly allow them to run roughshod over our good morals and intentions. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO ABOUT IT?

    WHERE’S THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IN ALLOWING THIS HIJACKING TO OCCUR AGAINST CIVIL, LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS? WHERE’S DICK CHENEY WHEN YOU NEED HIM WITH HIS FOURTH BRANCH OF GOV’T?

  129. curiosity: it was a parody or farce. not real.

    From TM. This is very disturbing:

    I posted this a few minutes ago on the last thread, do you guys think I am overreacting to be so worried about posts like this??:

    I saw these posts on Obama’s official campaign blog this morning, http://www.barrackobama.com (yes, I admit, I am a lurker) and I find them extremely worrisome (see the posts below by “Y from Alameda, CA” posted at 3:58 am and 4:25 am). I think Senator Clinton’s staff should be notified about this:

    3:58 am Post:

    “Re: HIllary Clinton suprised me | Report to Admin Reply
    By Y from Alameda, CA Today at 3:58 am EDT

    yea, just slit her throat and dump her in a river in East Kentucky.

    Appalachians… Shessh, they’re the worst ”

    4:25 am post:

    “Re: Sexism will rise like crazy once Hillary’s out | Report to Admin Reply
    By Y from Alameda, CA Today at 4:25 am EDT

    Just slit her throat, lock her in a car boot, and drive the car into river in West Virginia.

    Ain’t gonna let no whore screw with the man ”

    One poster did mention he/she was reporting the second post but last I looked it’s still there. With the news last night from Durham and posts like this I am very worried.
    ainnj | 04.27.2008 – 09:11 am | #

    Apparently, this is on his website.

  130. Ammunition is out there – Rezko Watch lays it out as does “Scoop” Independent News articles mentioned yesterday.

    Certainly Republicans are ready to launch their own series of attacks the likes we have never seen before, another Operation Shock and Awe.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch – our party that is run by a bunch of LOSERS is making up all the rules to shame, scare, and blackmail SD into voting for BHO. They don’t want the White House. They want to retain their coveted (bogus) roles. Sadly, if Gore and Carter weren’t part of this same coup – I’d say we have a chance. But we have again, a bunch of LOSERS running this party (have any of them been successful? NO), and they HATE the Clintons’ SUCCESS. The jealous green-eyed monster has bruised their own (HUGE) egos to the point where NONE OF THEM can be the LEAST bit objective.

    So…………..it’s on to Denver, to a bloodbath of their own making. And we know it, and can’t get ANYONE IN OUR GOVERNMENT to do a damn thing about it. How many ways can you say C O U P ?

  131. I would think that all of these postings and KO comments referring to assault/death to a FORMER FIRST LADY would constitute a FEDERAL OFFENSE. Before becoming a candidate for the nomination, she is a FORMER FIRST LADY!

  132. I sent them to her campaign. There is a discussion over at TM, and screen shots have been made and the urls have been sent to her campaign. What a group of despicable people. And people wonder, why, many Hillary supporters will not vote for this Chicago thug.

  133. curiosity,
    I agree. It’s a palace coup. I posted that months ago. The left wing will do anything to marginalize and, if necessary, destroy the Clintons. They don’t care what it does to the party, all they care about is the increased power such a coup would give them. They despise the Clintons for A) not coming from the same privileged wasp bloodlines as them and B) not kissing their butts once Bill won the WH.
    It reminds me of “The War of the Roses” but instead of a contentious divorce between spouses, the left wing has filed suit against the Clintons and want to prevent them from taking up space on the planet. It’s that simple. It’s that ugly.

  134. I would suggest that some of our editorial letter people .. be sure to get that info of threats to Hillary regarding driving her into the West Virginia rivers and also regarding the Appalachians. Send those screen captures to the papers in Ky and W.va. That will drive the vote out.

    Yes, and they wonder why we’d chose to vote for anybody but Obama.

    Sis in Wv went to a local rally yesterday and she said she didn’t talk to a single person that was supporting Osama. She said that it was a bit discouraging though cause local officials were saying that it looked like he had a lock on the nomination .. that being said, Hill’s support is there. We will just have to make a huge GOTV effort and let them know that “it’s not over”.

  135. http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/

    Sunday, April 27, 2008

    Barack Obama caught in crooked money laundering scheme

    “Smoking gun” prompts Andy Martin to say Obama should withdraw as presidential candidate. Martin says “retainer” by Robert Blackwell, Jr. was classic Illinois “pay to play” and may have been criminal behavior.

    NEW YORK)(April 27, 2008) The disclosure today in the Los Angeles Times that Barack Obama laundered money through a law firm to conceal the source of his income while an Illinois state senator is the “smoking gun” that is going to doom his candidacy. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killerspin27apr27,0,6789688.story

    Barack Obama should withdraw as a presidential candidate. Immediately. The latest evidence of his professional corruption is going to doom the Democratic Party.

    Although the L. A. Times’ reporters have tried to present Obama’s crooked deal in a fair and balanced way, there is no way you can avoid the conclusion that the substance of the transaction was intended to conceal that Obama was engaging in political money laundering to disguise the source of his income. Obama is exposed as just another corrupt African-American legislator in Illinois cutting deals for other African-Americans. Is it any wonder he became the protégé of sleazy Senator Emil Jones in the Illinois senate?

    Why was Obama’s Blackwell deal “money laundering?” The L. A. Times story is not clear on that point. Laundering was involved because Obama used “disclosure” to conceal the source of his income while a public official. Obama’s game also exposes that in Illinois even good government types, such as Cynthia Canary, can be corrupted. Canary tries to whitewash something that she would strongly condemn if the practice had been engaged in by any other legislator. In other words, Obama has even managed to corrupt Canary and the integrity of her organization. It’s disgusting.

    Obama’s “client,” Robert Blackwell, Jr. was also an operative in the machinations of crooked Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich,

    The Times details how Obama was still “of counsel” to his former law firm, but that he was not providing any services to that entity. Then Obama made a deal with Blackwell, and wanted to conceal that Blackwell was supporting him. So Obama “laundered” the “legal fees” by running them through the law firm and then issuing a list of the law firm’s clients-none of which had anything to do with Obama–to disguise the Blackwell money in a laundry list of hundreds of unrelated “clients.” This was a classic case of money laundering and business fraud. Obama wanted to conceal the large sum he was receiving from Blackwell, so he concealed that Blackwell was the source of his income by pretending he was providing services to the law firm’s other clients. Utter fraud. “Barry O” ain’t stupid, he’s slicky and tricky, and he’s a ticking time bomb for the Democratic Party.

    Since the law firm had nothing to do with Blackwell, and was merely acting as a conduit for legal fees for Obama, this example shows that Obama was nothing but just another crooked Illinois politician.

    Obama’s “law firm” was also guilty of professional misconduct, because the lawyers knew that Obama had not provided services through the law firm, and was merely using the firm to obscure the fact that the major source of his personal income was one client on whose behalf Obama was later to advocate (there may have been earlier informal advocacy than the senate letter which has surfaced).

    Time and time again, Obama’s law firm stands guilty of being exposed for sleazy professional tactics and gross conflicts of interest. Obama’s law firm was nothing more than a college of corruption for money laundering, conflicts of interests and other inappropriate professional behavior; and a collection of crooked lawyers that were stealing and concealing at every opportunity. Is it any wonder that honest lawyers get a bad name when crooked operatives such as Obama play games and use the law to conceal the source of their income?

    Since the law firm had no relationship with Blackwell, running Obama’s fees through the firm was false and fraudulent. Since Obama had nothing to do with the law firm’s other clients, using a list of hundreds of unrelated clients to obscure that only one of those “clients” was paying him money was federal criminal mail fraud as well as a corruption of the ethics rules in Illinois. That Cynthia Canary tries to whitewash such blatant corruption shows that she has lost all sense of ethics and legitimacy when Obama is the one stealing the money. What’s her link?

    Finally, the L. A. Times article leaves unanswered the big question: what legal work did Obama do to earn $112,000? He has never disclosed that he was working half-time for Blackwell, and there is no paper trail or track record of Obama having ever done any legal services to earn such a substantial sum. Before today, no one knew of the massive Blackwell-Obama connection. So where is the evidence of providing legal services to earn the money? I am going to be asking for an FBI investigation later this week.

    Barry “Barack” Obama: just one more crooked Illinois politician. He’s a disgrace to the good, honest hard working people of Illinois.

    Four years ago I disclosed that Obama was a fraud artist. I didn’t know at the time just how true my conclusions were, or how expansive and extensive Obama’s corruption really was. A big thanks to the L. A. Times for providing the “smoking gun” to document just how utterly sleazy Barack Obama has been in his professional life.

    Obama should immediately withdraw as a presidential candidate. The “honest graft” that Obama engineered with Robert Blackwell, Jr. is going to doom the Democratic Party in November. Any delegate, pledged, super or otherwise, who supports Obama for president after disclosure of the Barnhill/Blackwell caper, has a death wish for the Democrats in November.

    [Note: this column has focused on the crass political corruption Obama engineered to conceal the source of his income, and the way “good government” types such as Cynthia Canary are providing “cover” for Obama’s corruption. The fact that Obama used his senate letterhead to gain money for his client is just one more angle of the same slimy story. Using his senate office for his client is self-evident; the use of a professional firm to launder and conceal that his major source of income was only one person, Blackwell, is not so obvious, which is why this column has concentrated on that aspect of the L. A. Times’ revelations. The “senate letterhead” aspects, however, are no less important for what they reveal about Obama’s “play to play” operations in Illinois politics.] Obama was just an African-American Tony Rezko. Is it any wonder the two were so close for decades?]

    And is it any wonder that Barack Obama is now afraid to debate, given the latest sleaze cascading out of his past?

  136. basil, 100% correct. That is what I’m explaining to the Hill supporters. Don’t let them drive the best thing thats happened to America — tje only Democrat elected in so, so many years and the reelected. Don’t let people forget the good times of Bill Clinton’s terms.

    Remember .. Bill advised us that the nomination would be the hardest part….he KNEW about the party elite and the coup they would attempt.

    We gotta stand by the Clintons and don’t let America forget what they have done.

    The whole race card baiting right now is to try to make the AA’s forget what Bill and Hillary did for them. She needs a few more AA surrogates out for her to force the media to remember what they’ve done in their lifetime. Force them to remember.

  137. Does anyone have an edited version of that CSPAN video with Brazilla and the florida situation? That needs to get down out there immediately with some of these outrageous statements that Brazilla, Pelosi, Clyburn, etc, have made.

    These people know they screwed up but they are too far along now to let up. The know they have become individual Judas’ to the Clinton’s and their ass is on the line, so they are willing to throw the election to save their sorry asses. Putrid!

  138. birdgal, this is horrible news about the violence against Hillary! I sincerely hope the Internet police are on this. I also think that we can thank Ogreman and the biased press for people going nutz. If anyone is watching pumkinhead, listen to them, any unbalanced person would be persuaded by their comments. Someone needs to tell the press to STFU and just report the news without the spin!

  139. This entire DNC and their throwing this election, like we’re all so damn stupid, constitues the largest travesty of justice in my lifetime in the United States of America. This summer, as we normal people may have a little time, we need to have demonstration after demonstration aginst this kind of tyranny. By the way, how did yesterday go in Florida at the locations for counting the votes? Does anyone know?

  140. I’ve signed so many petitions, but is there a petition that states we will not support BHO for the Democratic nominee against McCain?

  141. As far Donna Brazile saying, “There will be blood”, when I posted yesterday to look up “Recreate68″ the ACLU-led anti-Americanism violence designed for the Denver Dem convention, I knew right then – that this is what the DNC is using as there scare tactic. They are, in essence – inciting violence by not denouncing this movement, thus condoning it. To me, that’s reason alone (besides FL & MI) to DEMAND DEAN, BRAZILE, PELOSI RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.

    People, we are watching a slow-motion coup take place before our eyes, with the extreme far-left wing OVERTHROW our Democratic Party, while we just stand by in awe, with our jaxs on the ground. Since violence isn’t part of our make-up, we reluctantly allow them to run roughshod over our good morals and intentions. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO ABOUT IT?
    *****************************************************
    Don’t forget about Jim Clyburn, he has been a TERRIBLE Majority Whip!!!

    The question is “W@hat the hell do we do about it?

    We’re the part that cling to GOD AND GUNS and if they want to play this game…well so be it!!!

    Nobody scared of their chicken shit, and if you threaten us one more time then I’m going to HOLD MSM and BIG MEDIA for giving you a platform to start a RIOT and THREATEN VIOLENCE!!!

    IT’s alright to intimidate seniors, female, young adults of Hillary Clinton in those caucuses BUT I’ll be DAMN if I let a bunch of Anti-American TERRORISTS and THUGS hold me afraid in my own country.

    We’re AMERICANS we come in all colors and beliefs and will FIGHT TO THE “BITTER” END. Americans take their RIGHTS seriously and the RIGHT TO VOTE is one of the foundation of our constitution.

    Donna Brazile, Jim Clyburn, Jessie Jackson Jr. and Doug Wilder you can play your cynical mind games all you want but sooner or later your BLACK supporters will wake up and realizer what crap you have been saying in their name….Black folks are some of the most patriotic people on the planet and they “Cling to GOD and GUNS” too!!!

    Keep talking that CRAP and if ANYTHING/VIOLENCE happen then the government should HOLD YOUR ASSES ACCOUNTABLE for INCITING VIOLENCE…HOPING your RESIGNATION papers are posted in MSM while the POLICE CART YOU OFF TO JAIL!!!

  142. Claire McCaskill on CNN…My, oh, my! Same old pie in the sky earlier campaign message of change and hopium for BO.

    Looks like BO is going back to his earlier rhetoric when he was winning those “democratic” caucuses.

  143. On the phone as we speak with an Obama fundraiser – giving them HELL. His response, is “Well, he has to do what he has to do with his back against the wall, back against the wall, back against the wall”….so that’s their talking point – I told him he put his own back against the wall. Got in my point about Clyburn’s, Brazile’s, Axelrod’s recent statements…answer “back against the wall”. Even pressed him about ways BHO gets his contributions. Guy didn’t really have a clue about the non-registration. These supporters don’t even know anything about this fraud they push. Unbelievable. First and I hope last call from Obama Campaign. Kept asking for $20. Last statement was still about his “back against the wall.”

  144. has there been any Hillary surrogates on today at all?

    I’m convinced enough of this, if Obama is the nominee he will lose in a humiliating, crushing blow to the party.

    I’m convinced that the DNC is right now trying to “paint” McCain into a easy campaign .. they are touting that Hillary has been hard on Obama in a effort to scare the Republicans and they will NOT be afraid. The republicans will not roll over.

    Hillary has demonstrated that she coalition and the states necessary to win the GE. Obama has NOT done that.

    If the party chooses to put him up .. McCain is going to win .. in a landslide. I thought the dems wanted to win in the GE but it seems that they are only worried about putting forth a person of color as the nominee

  145. cruiosityhasme 11:25

    “The jealous green-eyed monster has bruised their own (HUGE) egos to the point where NONE OF THEM can be the LEAST bit objective.”

    EXACTLY!!

  146. I just hope that everyone here who has said they will NOT vote for bambi would hang tuff… don’t roll for the party because it’s obvious to me that the party doesn’t care a fig about us.

    We need to remember that .. now and in November. No matter what happens.

  147. These friggin BO supporters are referring to violence in an attempt to intimidate SD’s and overwhelm any conversation of them supporting Hill.

    Completely outrageous (like everything else going on), and the campaign should be making note of it. LOUDLY.

    Anyone catch Howard & Axelrod? Overslept and no video posted yet…

  148. Saw this posted on Hillary’s blog

    Jason Altmire from PA has not decided who to pledge for .

    Hillary won his district overwhelming and Pa by 10 points .. please send him an email:

    info@jasonaltmire.com
    *****************************************************
    Is part of that new wave of democrats that came to congress in 2006. The bunch that see Sen. Obama as their leader instead of the American people.

    I wonder how much money have Obama given/promised him?

  149. After an important primary win in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton has reduced Democratic rival Barack Obama’s double-digit lead among registered Democrats and voters leaning Democratic by more than half, according to the latest NEWSWEEK Poll. Plagued by controversies over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s comments and the candidate’s own “bitter” remarks, Obama has seen his favorability rating slip significantly in the last week, the poll found.

    The survey found that Clinton now trails Obama by 7 points, down from 19 just one week ago. The previous NEWSWEEK Poll, conducted on the eve of the Pennsylvania primary, found that more than half (55 percent) of registered voters believed Obama was more electable, while 33 percent gave the edge to Clinton. The current poll finds that 46 percent judge Obama more electable, compared to 38 percent who say that of Clinton. (For complete poll data, click here.)

    One of the more problematic results for Obama was that four in 10 of registered voters (including Republicans and independents) now have an unfavorable opinion of him—and the same number said there is “no chance” they will vote for Obama if he becomes the nominee. Four in 10 registered voters (41 percent) say they have a less favorable opinion of Obama based on his association with his former pastor, Wright, whose racially and politically inflammatory sermons have been circulated on the Internet and covered in the media. A similar number (42 percent) say they will not vote for Obama because of comments he made about “bitter” small-town residents clinging to guns and religion.

    Even so, the NEWSWEEK Poll indicates that despite the political damage inflicted over recent weeks, Obama still edges out McCain in a trial head-to-head heat for the White House, 47 to 44 percent. That margin was only 1 point wider a week ago. Clinton—whose own favorability rating has not improved even as Obama’s has slipped—also holds a 3 point lead with 48 percent of the vote to the Arizona senator’s 45.

  150. Their new stance is now that HRC is purposely causing BHO to lose (sour grapes) and they are in all-out assault mode using any tactic they can (Brazile’s “There will be blood”, Clyburn’s irrational spin on BC race-baiting), just as this idiot that I just hung up from with the BHO campaign who kept repeating “He has to do what he has to do when his back’s against the wall,” as if doing totally unethical things like Clyburn and Brazile is warranted. Like a previous blogger wrote – these THUGS will do anything they can to win.

    I’m even starting to wonder if this new wave of violence in Chicago, (which I initially thought would hurt BHO because of his voting aginst giving more power to the Chicago police) may be staged. Staged, in that it his campaign’s subliminal way of planting fear into the minds of Democratic voters as to what they can expect or may encounter in Denver if they don’t succumb to their demands, intimidation, and verbal directives. Hey, nothing surprises me about what his campaign and surrogates will pull.

    Lower that snake oil, all of them.

  151. lin .. if that can be verified you need to see that it gets sent to the proper campaign officials…

    Also, Hannity …

  152. How many winning campaigns has Donna Brazille ever been in charge of? 0. That’s the Dems problem- there are way too many losers in positions of power, see Howard Dean. Also this idea that all young people are behind BO is just bullsh**. I’m 22 and I don’t support him. Also, relying on people my age to deliver an election for you has proven to be suicidal. Obama basically has the Bill Bradley coalition with AA voters. That is not enough to win 270 electoral college votes against McCain.

  153. dot48, i will not vote for bambi and nothing, and let me repeat that again, i will not now or ever vote for bambi!!!!!

  154. Paid by Ayers in what respect? Ethics form asks apparently all sources of income? I’ll just go to MyDD and read. Thanks!

  155. linfar,

    Wow, that’s a thing! Tell Hannity, he’s got a show tonight.

    Curiosity,
    I wondered the same thing.

  156. Clinton eyes Oregon upset
    April 27, 2008

    By Christina Bellantoni – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is making a stealth play for Oregon, where a primary win next month — combined with her two strongest remaining states, West Virginia and Kentucky — may open up a pathway to the Democratic ticket by convincing superdelegates that she deserves the nomination.
    Mrs. Clinton has set her sights on the Beaver State and its 52 delegates by focusing on local issues. She has concentrated surrogates, staff and resources there and called for two debates in hopes of narrowing the gap between rival Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois and herself.

    With neither candidate likely winning enough delegates to capture the nomination outright, the attention to the party’s superdelegates and their mind-sets has become increasingly important.

    Few polls have been taken of Oregon voters, but Mr. Obama leads Mrs. Clinton 52 percent to 42 percent in a SurveyUSA poll done earlier this month.

    Mr. Obama, who is favored to win the state known for antiwar, liberal voters and college towns, last campaigned there March 21 and has not yet announced plans for another trip.

    The Oregon for Obama campaign blog boasts of Women for Obama and Veterans for Obama events, and his surrogates are blanketing the state to help sign up new voters. Tuesday is the last day for Oregonians to register to vote.

    Mrs. Clinton yesterday challenged Mr. Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style, according to the Associated Press.

    “Just the two of us, going for 90 minutes, asking and answering questions. We’ll set whatever rules seem fair,” Mrs. Clinton said while campaigning in South Bend, Ind.

    Her campaign made the offer formal with a letter to the Obama campaign.

    Obama aides said he already had debated Mrs. Clinton 21 times, “the most in primary history.”

    Last week, Mr. Obama won over an Oregon superdelegate, Rep. David Wu.

    If the May 6 results get muddled, with an Obama win in North Carolina and a close finish either way in Indiana, the rest of May looks bright for Mrs. Clinton.

    While attention is focused on the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, three contests that follow — West Virginia on May 13, and Oregon and Kentucky on May 20 — offer Mrs. Clinton the potential for a nice bump. She is favored in Kentucky and West Virginia by 10 points.

    After a brief Memorial Day holiday break, Puerto Rico has a June 1 contest, in which Mrs. Clinton leads the polls by big numbers.

    An Oregon upset could give her a four-state winning streak before the last two primaries in Montana and South Dakota.

    Unless she is able to win 65 percent or 70 percent of the vote in those states — an unlikely prospect — Mrs. Clinton still would trail Mr. Obama in the pledged delegates.

    Former President Bill Clinton was back yesterday in Oregon, a state he’s campaigned in several times recently. He also focused on local issues, telling voters in coastal Oregon his wife would help them with fisheries problems and would help bring back the salmon population.

    Mrs. Clinton last week rolled out her 13-page Oregon Compact, and her fellow Democrat and supporter, Gov. Theodore R. Kulongoski, will be promoting her plan on the campaign trail throughout the state.

    “The compact is made up of some of the most important ideas Hillary has heard from Oregonians since the start of her campaign: how we bring ‘green-collar’ jobs to our state, how we make our state and nation more energy secure, and how we will work together to bring health care to all Oregonians,” he said.

    Mr. Kulongoski sent supporters an e-mail explaining he is backing Mrs. Clinton because she will help his state. He also asked them to sign a petition calling for two debates in Oregon, linking to a Web video from Mrs. Clinton on her campaign Web site.

    “Oregon deserves just as much attention — and just as much information to make its decision — as Iowa, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania,” Mr. Kulongoski wrote in the e-mail.

    Mrs. Clinton’s call for debates earned her some praise, but angered Obama supporters. Some commenters responding to the issue on a WashingtonTimes.com blog said they would stop supporting Mr. Kulongoski.

    “I am ashamed of my governor for playing it this way. I won’t vote for him again,” one commenter wrote, noting that former Gov. John Kitzhaber supports Mr. Obama and echoing other Oregonians frustrated with Mr. Kulongoski’s Clinton advocacy.

    “The Pacific Northwest hasn’t had a single presidential debate,” Mrs. Clinton says in the video, noting that one debate would be entirely focused on Oregon’s rural issues. “I hope that Senator Obama agrees Oregon deserves nothing less.”

  157. This is extremism, between Brazille & Clyburn, Ayers and Rev. Wright.

    The Campaign should be livid and calling it nothing less!!!!!!

    Exclusive: Clinton talks about a possible local threat

    Updated: April 26, 2008 09:38 PM
    Reporter: Brandon Bartlett

    14 News was the first to report Thursday night about a possible threat against Hillary Clinton by a Tri-State man. Friday Senator Clinton responded in a exclusive interview with 14 News.
    That allegeded threat was made on the website Facebook by a USI student very vocal in his support for Barack Obama. He even has a picture standing next to Senator Obama on his webpage.

    But it’s a comment that police say he made on that page, that might have gone a little too far.

    Reporter Brandon Bartlett: “If you saw this online, would it be a red flag to you?

    Detective Kurt Pritchett: “I would want to go speak to the author, yes.”

    Detective Pritchett has traveled around the world investigating internet threats. “Nationwide, internetwide, you don’t see a lot of this,” says Pritchett, “It is something that should not be there.”

    According to an incident report filed with the Evansville Police Department the comment reads: “Make sure Hillary avoids the sniper fire next time she comes to Evansville.”

    Det. Pritchett says, “If it is a threat, yes, it is very unwise. If it is something that eludes to a previous comment, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to put that previous comment in there, so that you’re not accused of yelling “fire” in a crowded theatre.”

    Even if the comment is making fun of Senator Clinton’s much publicized sniper episode in Bosnia, the EPD is taking no chances alerting its officers.

    In an exclusive interview Friday with 14 News, Anchor Ann Komis asked Senator Clinton about the possible threat. Senator Hillary Clinton, speaking about the comment, says, “Well, I have the utmost confidence in the secret service and they’ve done a wonderful job taking care of me for a lot of years. So, I really don’t think about it. I don’t worry about it.”
    Senator Clinton also said she will be back in Evansville before May 6th, that means the secret service will be alerted to this comment. And the young man who posted it, will be closely watched.
    Det. Kurt Pritchett says, “There will be an investigation into it.”
    14 News has made several attempts to contact the young man who allegedly wrote the comment, to find out if this was meant as a joke. He has not returned my calls or messages.

  158. Wow – how eye-opening. Hannity has more to add to his Sun. night show if time permits. This needs to come out before IN & NC vote, for sure. My question is – even though Obama is a smaller player in schemes, kickbacks that the IL governor, to me – there is NO QUWSTION that he has participated far and wide in obtaining grants to be on the receiving end through the back door – either as an employee, we find, or as the recepient of donations for n IL senate run. FITZGERALD NEED TO INDICT OBAMA FOR TAKING PART IN KICK-BACKS AND BRIBES, PAYOFFS (House in Hyde Park), etc. Maybe that’s why he is letting Alsamarrae wander around right now – to catch them working together (again). WHAT ARE THE SD THINKING? NO WAY WILL THIS FRAUD BE ELECTED IN NOV AND HE’LL TAKE THEM DOWN WITH HIM!

  159. Another famous (infamous ?) reader of the forum.

    Maureen Dowd on ‘This Week with the Clinton Haters‘:

    “I think she’s done real damage in turning him from incandescent to ineffectual. She’s repainted him as Bambi

  160. Blurbs like this one from Larry Johnson remind me of what Hillary supposedly told Richardson in their heated phonecall,
    “HE CAN’T WIN , BILL.”

    I predicted on this blog four months ago that Barack’s relationship with an unrepentant terrorist would become a heated issue in the presidential contest. Although Obama insists that he barely knows Ayers, this is not true. Democrats, beware — the problems of Obama’s associations with Ayers will create serious problems in the fall campaign if he is the candidate. Republicans take heart — if Barack is the nominee, your only problem will be deciding whether or focus your campaign attack ads on Obama’s questionable ties to the corrupt Tony Rezko, the racist Jeremiah Wright, the terrorist group Hamas, or the unrepentant bomber, William Ayers.

  161. curiosityhasme Says:
    April 27th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
    On the phone as we speak with an Obama fundraiser – giving them HELL. His response, is “Well, he has to do what he has to do with his back against the wall, back against the wall, back against the wall”….so that’s their talking point … Kept asking for $20. Last statement was still about his “back against the wall.”

    Great, that’s right where his ass belongs!

    Next time someone gets a call like this, RECORD it! Youtube it. Transcribe it and diary it. That’s the answer to people claiming Obama is still the frontrunner.

  162. Blue Democrat – Republicans will have at LEAST a four-prong attack with all of these (and others to surface) Another Shock and Awe blitz of which we haven’t seen the likes since Operation Freedom (Baghdad).

  163. 1950democrat:

    Good point! Surprised me when “Out of Area” appeared with no number following. That’s what HRC shows as sell – really thought it was her campaign. Where did they get MY name anyway? Boy, they must be beating the bushes, and calling every number they can find.

  164. Well, they are lying again on CNN! They are saying that 65% of the voters in PA thought Senator Clinton was the most negative. When we all know it was Obama had 65% and Senator Clinton had 35% negativety! They are all f-ing liar’s. I changed the channel back to fox! They might lie somewhat about Clinton, but they also show Obama in his true light, so I can deal with them easier. I am ready for the voting to begin and get these shows on the road!
    Has anyone heard how much $ we have brought in this month??

  165. Henry, said: “that is too good to be tue”

    That is what I thought so I gave up my sunday morning.

    I mean this guy lies the way other people inhale.

    I have never seen anything quite like it–except George Bush.

  166. confloyd:

    Someone on this blog said to donate now before Wed. so that it would show up for this month. That’s all I know.

  167. basil9

    The 107 vs 138 refers to State Central Committee Members. So, when people registered at the State Convention, 31 SCCs more registered for Senator Clinton, than registered for Senator Obama. You must meet a quoum, so this indicates that we had like 1/3 for SCCs for Clinton. However, this does not relate to Delegates. She won the state by over 1,000 votes (remember it took us a week to figure this out). It was important to have the majority at this Delegate Selection meeting in order for Obama people not to take over. We accomplished that.

    The other thing that scares me it that there could be people elected as Delegates in these states that are closet Obama people. Our small group got a Hillary supporter elected as at large. She was the lead Hillary volunteer coordinator in the state. We also interviewed some male Hillary supporters to see if we could determine how strong their support was.

    We had around 28 delegates to be elected. However, this is distributed by CD of which we had three, and then there are these non committed stuff. They make this very complicated so only the experts figure it out. I would say at the county levels the weekend before18 were elected in the first round. At the state level, probably another 10.

    They make these complicated so only a lawyer can figure it out. I hope I aswered the question.

  168. Carbynew–

    I thought I saw your name as having recommended it ?

    Hmmmmmmm. I will peek and let you know.

  169. basil 9

    Sory got my CDs and Counties mixed up. We selected the week before at the CD level (we had three), and we had about 6 (sorry I said three) in each CD. Three Obama, and three Clinton. Since she won state, she got the alternate in CD2.

  170. i made some calls yesterday ,,,,

    i love to blog ,,,but i think its better to make calls and convine voters on the ground to vote for hillary ……..

    i gave away my old shoes,,,handbags to my maid ,,,,for 150$….(THEY WERE BRANDED,SHE WILL SELL IN SWAPMEET FOR MORE)

    i am gonna give that cash to my dad today and use his credit caed on hillary,s website,,,,,
    i maxed mt limit ,,,,,so thats another way to help,,,,

  171. linfar Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
    Carbynew–

    I thought I saw your name as having recommended it ?

    Hmmmmmmm. I will peek and let you know.
    ****************************************************
    Linfar I didn’t see your diary link when I wrote that post and then I saw the link and click on it.

    Great diary.

    Obama and party leaders are telling us “Who are you going to belive, us are your lying eye” crap.

    This is all about Power and NOT about what the people want…that’s why Obama has been lying all over the place because if people really know what he’s really about he couldn’t get elected dog catcher.

  172. i am in CA,,,

    BEFORE FEB 5TH,,,, i used to go to phone bank and make calls for hillary in ca area ,,,,

    so i have like 5 hillary ,s yard signs,,,

    should i send it somehwre or to who ,,,,so they can use it ,,,,,,,

    actually ,,i think i should just keep it ,,,i be needing it in general election,,,,

  173. President Carter was an horrible President. His presidency FAILED and it hurt democrats for over a decade.

    Now, I love Jimmy Carter the ex-President more because the role of a statement suited him better. It fitted his personality

  174. linfair, fascinating article and yes, the bots are going apeshit.

    Why is it anything that comes out on him is “beating him up for the fall”

    HELLO, these younguns don’t know what a REAL election campaign will consist of. They are buying into Donna Brazillaheads talking points that Hillary is negative. They ain’t seen shit yet. If he is the nominee, he will suffer a humiliating, crushing loss to McCain. Bank on it. People are mad as hell as to how they are treating her and how the lies just keep coming out of the surrogates mouths.

    My brother said now they are saying she needs to win Indiana by 10!!! When the fcuk did it come to a win just not being a win. This is ridiculous and my family all say that Hillary has been done so dirty by the Dems and they’ll leave the party as well.

  175. Sonia .. I plan to call into Indiana this afternoon. I have realtor coming for some paperwork pretty soon and as soon as she leaves I’m hitting the phones.

    Everybody .. we need to hit the phones and get Hillary a 10 point win. Brother laughed today how now the media wants to go on percentage of 9.2 for her PA win .. he said “when have they EVER done that before” .. believe me people are paying attention.

  176. MSNBC = Messiah News

    CNN = Corrupt News Network

    We’ve seen their bias since before Iowa.

    They aren’t reaping in ratings though .. matter of fact they are losing place. MSNBC is not even in the top 30 .. CNN is like 25. Not many people watch them now and I refuse to give them a rating.

  177. dot48 Says:

    you are right

    i made 100 calls yesterday ,,,and made my hubbe make 50 calls (in exchange of s,,),,,
    any way ,,my goal was 250 …but i only did 150

    today the goal is 300

    i wanna do atleast 250 ,,,,,i called my nieghbor too,,,she will do 50,,,,,,,my hubbt will do 50,,,and i will do 150,,,,,,,

  178. From Talk Left;

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds John McCain leading Hillary Clinton by nine percentage points, 50% to 41%. He leads Barack Obama by an even larger margin, 53% to 38%.

    Survey USA:

    * John McCain 50%
    * Barack Obama 42%

    * John McCain 46%
    * Hillary Clinton 47%

    Time for Obama supporters to give a realistic argument for Obama’s electability and downticket strength, not reprise bromides from 2006. That was then. This is now.

  179. Sonia, wonderful.

    Everyone .. take a page out of Sonia’s playboook and start calling if you can.

    YES WE CAN AT HILLARY IS 44

  180. make sure to ,,arrange donations too…

    i have 2 small kids,,my neighbor has a small girl too ,,

    so we get together,,,i watch kids and she makes calls ,,,then she watches kids ,and i make calls,,,,,,from my pc,,,,,

    so we have fun …we eat cookies and have tea,,,,,,,,,
    we know in our hearts ,,,its for our better future and to open the doors for women in this country,,,,

  181. How in the world Southern Baptist, Habitat-for-Humanity Jimmy Carter decided to get in bed with the Palestinian Hamas and turn his back on Israel is beyond me. I know he didn’t hear that preached in the Plains, GA (or anywhere else in the Deep South) pews. Southern Baptists are all about Israel and the Jewish plight – so go figure. Think he’s senile, myself.

  182. Wow, that Rasmussen poll .. just like we knew it would be.

    The more we know of OhBoyAnotherMistakeAgain .. the less America likes him. That is why the party elite wants to wrap the “nomination” up now. They know he’s tanking but they want to put a AA in as the nominee so badly that they are willing to risk a humiliating, crushing defeat in November.

  183. Yesterday I was talking to my neighbor who is a proud Texan living in the San Fernando Vly. My neighbor voted for Hillary while his wife voted for Obama…I told him I’m will NEVER vote for Obama if he wins the nomination and will be voting for McCain.

    My neighbor HATES the BUSHES but really passionately hate GWB because his small town in Texas is hurting because of Geore/Cheny energy policies. He said, they is no oil shortage GWB is gaming the system and that is one of the reason he love Hillary because he want those crooks in PRISON.

    His small town in Texan which is basically African Americans is hurting because the oil is NOT being pumped out of the ground and the town is not receiving any royalties so times is very tough right now. They town sit on one of the riches oil fields in Texas and nobody pumping any oil up…this same oil that would normally be producing has been sitting in the ground.

    Very Bitter Blacks in Texas being hurt because of Bush/Cheney energy policy that Obama voted YES on.

  184. nice to blog here

    i am gonna go ,,

    i am gonna blog at taylormarsh,,,,,noquarterusa,,,,,,hillaryclintonforum,,,,,,,fox,,,cnn,,,,

    i give my self 60-90 min to catch up on the blogs,,and news,,,and goals,,,,,thenn i start making calls,,,,

    so eveyone,,,,,,,,,,,think of women in ur family and thier future in this country with sexist media,,,,,,

    think of 90.s and wonderful economy in those days,,

    think or our future,,,,,,,

    think of what hillary can do for us and for our country …….

    think all that ,,,,,,and get to phones,,,,

    take care ,,,have fun,,,,,,,,stay happy,,,,,,,share love and peace,,,,,

  185. That oil town in Texas ought to be in a commercial for Hillary against the Obama/Bush/Cheney energy policy.

    Put real people in it.

  186. Once again, Dean is climbing in off that limb that is breaking from under him. From ‘Meet the Clinton Haters‘:

    Timmeh: What should be the criteria of a Super Delegate?

    Dean: The rules don’t give you a criteria, they’re supposed to vote their conscious.

    (Remember Dean’s original position was that the SDs should vote the same way as the pledged delegates)

    Timmeh: The rules are that the Super Delegates do NOT have to abide by the vote of the elected delegates ?

    Dean: That’s correct.

  187. If Obama had the same scruples and morals of Colin Powell, Harold Ford, Michael Steele, not to mention countless others……..but he doesn’t. His dangerous ties to terrorists, both here and abroad should scare the hell out of any self-respecting American, regardless of ethnicity. It’s not the race, it’s the judgment and honesty thing. Why can’t Brazile, Clyburn and AA surrogates understand this FUNDAMENTAL issue? It still bothers me that Obama is supposed to represent the AA light. His background in no way has ANY of the real issues AA have lived through for 50 years. NONE. Why can’t they see this?

  188. Someone needs to ask Clyburn how can he call Bill Clinton a racist when BC lived in Arkansas in 1957 and saw with his own eyes racial discrimination and how ugly it is. So when be became Governor of Arkansas on the thirtieth anniversary of the Little Rock Nine, Governor Bill Clinton held a reception for the nine in the Governors mansion and took them to the room where the former Governor of Arkansas kept those nine kids out of high school.
    When Bill became POTUS he held a ceremony on the South Lawn of the White House and gave the Little Rock Nine a Congressional Medal of Honor.
    Now how can Obama paint Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton racist is the worse negative campaigning that a candidate can do to another candidate! Lets get this out!!
    How do you equate this race baiting going on with the Obama campaign to Hillary asking real questions about Obama’s connection to Ayers? That question is what we Americans want to know about Obama. The deliberate lies about Bill and Hillary are the true negative campaign!

  189. Andrew .. I took it as a sort of semi good as well. It means that he is admitting the superdelegates have an “out” and that they can vote any way they see fit. The remaining sd’s have to look at who can win the necessary coalition in the fall. Who can bring in the biggest coaltion of voters and who will be able to promise that their voters will show up and vote. I think it’s Hillary,

    We just need to help her have a strong showing in North Carolina and to win Indiana. You know he’s gonna outspend her once again .. but we can out call and out blog them bots.

    And we have the candidate who is the Peoples Candidate. Don’t forget to let people know that Hillary is fighting for them in this campaign .. its about getting help for THEM .. not getting her in the WhiteHosue

  190. I think it’s time for the Clinton campaign to start reminding the AA community of things that Bill Clinton and Hillary has done for them.

    It’s way overdue.

    The community has forgotten it seems or many of them.

    Had it not been for Clinton would Brazillahead even have had the opportunity to work for Al Gore?

    So many careers on the Clinton’s back and absolutely some of the most digusting “thank yous” ever.

  191. Wow, reading the census (because after all I am Mr Excitement :),
    and as of 2006, Indiana was 88.3% white, only 8.9% AA (4.8% Latino).

    Why the frig are the polls so close there?

    Something else bugging me is SUSA’s last NC poll showed BO leading among Hispanics with 81%. WTF? Am I reading it wrong?

  192. curiosityhasme Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
    If Obama had the same scruples and morals of Colin Powell, Harold Ford, Michael Steele, not to mention countless others……..but he doesn’t. His dangerous ties to terrorists, both here and abroad should scare the hell out of any self-respecting American, regardless of ethnicity. It’s not the race, it’s the judgment and honesty thing. Why can’t Brazile, Clyburn and AA surrogates understand this FUNDAMENTAL issue? It still bothers me that Obama is supposed to represent the AA light. His background in no way has ANY of the real issues AA have lived through for 50 years. NONE. Why can’t they see this?
    *****************************************************
    Most AA’s would normally NOT vote for an elitist like Obama but Team Obama played the race card and he has the help of many Black ministers. With the MSM being Obambi’s cheerleaders and their pastors making this about a campaign on faith and their own hope and dreams they will play it out.

    But let me be the first to say, that Obambi is on a high with the angels and he will do something that will knock him halo off and when Black Folks turn it’s like a feeding frenzy by sharks.

    Quick and lethal.

  193. The Clinton’s know more about Jim Crow laws and Brown vs. Board of Education that Obama ever will. They saw the horrors of this part of American history and resolved to do something about it. AND DID. His dad is from Kenya! And his white mother from Kansas never experienced discrimination ! His grandparents didn’t experience any either.. None of his relatives did. He settled in Chicago’s southside – hardly the model for the average Black experience. And he has turned a blind eye to the violence. Now doesn’t that bode well for how important African-Americans are to him. He’s by far the most exploitive politician to ever come on the scene IMHO. The majority of African-Americans are selling out and they don’t even realize it.

  194. dot48,

    They know that’s why Obama’s AA support is very, very soft. But it’s the dream you know,,,the DREAM.

    Most Obama’s AA supporters will vote for Hillary too…she is their 2nd choice.

    Obama strength comes from the radical HARD LEFT, MSM and those democrats leaders who is suduced by power and a candidate they think will reward them very well.

  195. Hey, everyone who came over, read and rec’ced.

    You were great.

    And yes the Obamabots seems to be in rare ‘screaming fits’ form . They are even threatening hill44 subscribers.

    I am sorry for that.

    Boy is it hot here. And very dry. the wildfires up in Pasadena are nervous making.

    Hope everyone has a wonderful Sunday.

    I am making my calls later.

  196. dot,

    As I posted, Dean’s original position was that the SDs should vote the same way as the pledged delegates.

  197. lin .. they’ve already threatened me. I don’t scare easy. Fuck them little whiney, baby brats. What do they know about anything — they ain’t quit shitting yellow yet. Most of them have never had jobs, never had to pay a mortgage, never been responsible for raising children on a small income, never faced disability.

    THEY KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT LIFE. FUCK EM

  198. Joe, as I thought .. the rules have always been for the sd’s to pick the nominee who can WIN. If Hillary can sustain in Indiana with the same coalition of support she is well on her way.

    PLEASE everyone who can CALL NC AND IN .. it’s very important

    VOLUNTEER if you can.

    The peoples candidate needs people.

    .

    well on her way

  199. consensus from W.Va is that Hillary can turn W.Va. back to the democrat party in the fall. OhBoyAnotherMajorAccident does not stand ANY chance. W.va is ready they just need the right candidate. Wednesday after Nc and In we need to make a major push into Wv and Ky. Strongholds for Hillary .. just push them to get out for her. They are ready.

  200. anyone did Hill have ANY positive coverage today from the shows. Seems like it was another luvfest for the annointed one but I’d love to hear what the surrogates had to say.

    Wolfson vs. Axelrod comments welcome

  201. Get a load of Andrea Mitchell on ‘Meet the Clinton Haters‘:

    …notably, in San Francisco, the ‘bitter’ comment, which just didn’t play right

    So, it wasn’t what Bambi SAID about people clinging to guns, religion, and xenophobia, it was that it didn’t PLAY well.

  202. Dot,

    Wolfson vs. Axelrod was incredibly mild, IMO.
    Made me think good thoughts, like something might be up.

  203. blue .. hint at what you think please. My blackout of big media puts me with lower blood pressure but lots of questions. Bear with me LOL

  204. Obama just said on Wallace that he thinks the republicans have better ideas on corporate regulation and charter schools…watch that sinking ship go down, folks. Glug, glug, glug!

  205. Bill Clinton Says Portland Pundits Are Wrong About Rural Oregon
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    ABC News’ Sarah Amos reports: President Bill Clinton is excited to be courting rural votes across the state of Oregon today, even if the Portland pundits don’t think it will make a difference in the Oregon primary.

    Beginning his day in Junction City, Ore. — a small community just outside of Eugene — the former president told the crowd how he had read an article this morning saying that Clinton’s visit to rural areas wouldn’t pay off in Oregon the way it had in other states like Pennsylvania.

    “When Hillary’s campaign announced that I was going to be speaking all over Oregon and in small towns and rural areas, I heard that some of the pundits in Portland thought I was nuts,” he said. “And there’s an article, I just read an article in the Associated Press that quotes a Reed College political science professor who says that my coming to see you won’t work.

    “Now listen,” Clinton told a booing crowd. “He said that Hillary’s decision to reach out to rural Oregon was — quote –- ‘old politics.'”

    The article seemed to both amuse and irk Clinton, who has become the campaign’s surrogate for rural America in the past few months.

    The AP article Clinton read quoted Reed College political science professor Paul Gronke, who said that he didn’t think the small towns strategy employed by the Clinton campaign in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio would work in Oregon because of the differences in demographics and history.

    “The old politics sells well in Pennsylvania, because it’s an old state,” Gronke told the AP, classifying Oregon as a much younger state in terms of history and population.

    Clinton clearly took offense to the quote. But he also saw it as an opportunity, using the statement to rally the crowd around the idea that “old politics” meant ignoring rural America — something he said Hillary Clinton would never do as president.

    “Now, Reed College is a great place,” Clinton said. “I hope I get to visit there and tell them why they oughta vote for Hillary. But I think that it really matters what happens in rural America. It matters what happens in rural Oregon. And Hillary has offered to do two debates in Oregon — one completely devoted to rural issues, and I’ll explain why in a minute. But I think this is an important issue. Thirty three of your 36 counties are officially classified as rural. If that is old politics, who are we leaving behind in America? That’s part of the problem, we’ve got a government now that’s left too many people behind.

    “We need to go forward together,” Clinton told a cheering crowd. “I think that pretending people in small towns in rural America don’t matter is old politics. And I think there’s a more important point I’d like to make. This rural/urban/suburban divide in America is bad for our country. It’s bad for our country. All these phony divides are bad for our country.”

    Clinton devoted a good portion of his speech to rural issues affecting Oregon, but also spoke to the crowd about the usual Hillary Clinton talking points, including health care and veteran’s rights. Yet as he wrapped up his speech nearly an hour later, he found himself right back where he started — talking about that same professor from Reed College.

    “You can tell that nice fella up at Reed College that you don’t resent him for having a nice job and a wonderful school,” Clinton said, “but you think we can go forward together. And you know just as much and care just as much about a bright, clean-energy, wholesome future as he does. Let’s do this together with Hillary’s leadership.”

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/bill-clinton–3.html

  206. OMG, in this FOX interview BO sides with republicans on regulation,
    citing guidelines!!!

    Like those ‘guidelines’ he watered down and passed that let nuclear plants emit poison into the ground and had constituents screaming?!

    This should immediately be cut into an ad for IND & NC.

    UNBELIEVABLE!

  207. I just posted this on Dnc PB:
    Hey Donna Brazille and James Clyburn

    How exactly can you two and many others call Bill and Hillary Clinton’s racist? In 1957 Bill Clinton was a child living in Arkansas when nine children tried to go to a white high school. They were stopped by then Governor Faubus! This had such an impact on young Bill Clinton that when he as governor in 1989, he invited the Little Rock Nine to the Governor’s mansion for a reception to honor their courage!
    Then in 2000, when Bill Clinton was President, invited the Nine to the WH and on the South Lawn in a ceremony to honor them he awarded them the Congressional Gold Medal! So I guess that Donna and James as a racist when its politically convenient to call them such. Right?
    Now, as you are trying to sell the American people that Hillary is running a negative campaign against Obama, lets talk about the real truth, James you started this race baiting issue in South Carolina, a long time ago. So now its convenient to label Bill and Clinton racist again with North Carolina approaching hoping to get another runup of the votes. Well, what is going on with Obama is Obama’s fault, not Hillary’s!

    She brought up real issue’s that I and I am sure the American people want to know with her Ayers question! These questions are the questions we as voters have the right to ask! So I ask you, who is really running a negative campaign, Donna and James, the answer is Obama, his campaign and his supporters and the two of you! The statement today Donna about their will be blood in the water if Hillary gets the nomination is purely a fear tactic initiated by you and the rest of his supporters! So let’s get real here Donna and James, lets tell the truth for a change. That is the real change we need in Washington!

  208. I love Obama going on FOXNEWS out repuging the repugs. And still pro-choice think Obambi is going to fight for them.

    I don’t think so, Obambi is more social conservative then most progressives think.

    But this proud feminist lives in California and I think the younger females need a wake-up call.

  209. Let Bo keep talking, if he knew how much this interview with FoxNews is helping Hillary with the “bitter” folkes who “cling to God and guns” his chin wouldn’t be growing as much as it has.

  210. this is my favorite part:

    Wallace: Long time no see.

    Obama: Well, it takes me about 772 days to prepare for these questions. But I think there was a leap year in there so I think it’s only 771.

    Yeah, he’s going to get a helluva lot done in the White House! HAHAHAHA!

  211. Will make calls to IN & NC shortly.

    Had to go check out the ranting on MyDD. Mind-blowing how many off-the-wall rationalizations Obamabots can come up with to stay on a sinking ship. They don’t even realize they’ve hit icebergs yet. Clueless. Well, while BHO’s “Titanic” starts to sink with his tons of dirty money, I still feel like the will of “We, the People,” will prevail ultimately in the end.

    You can’t dismiss the bulk and nucleus of the Democratic electorate – label them as racists and irrelevant if they don’t support your candidate, call them “white trash” gun-toting, Bible-thumping bigots, and expect people to swallow your dogma.

    Less-educated people aren’t stupid. I am envisioning Obamabots and Axelrod as portraying the people from the backhills of Kentucky and West Virginia as “Jed Clampett’s.” Let the Obamabots show up playing up their “moonshine” and “revenuer’s” talk – and they just think they’ve alienated these proud backwoods Scots-Irish.

    The elitism and sense of entitlement in the ultra-liberals is off-the-charts. I suppose if you can obtain grants and con the government into sending thousands of dollars to “set up boards” and the like, that makes you smarter than a fifth-grader, therefore entitles you to continue to bilk taxpayers – the backbone of this country – into using their hard-earned taxes to fund your anti-American campaigns. Well, your cover has been blown, Obama, and we’re going to expose every crooked deal you’ve been a part of. Promise.

  212. many younger females and the younger voters in general .. need a wake up call. Most of them have never had to earn a living so they can’t relate to the real issues. To them it’s the current fad like the crocs.

    Obama = Crocs

  213. Clinton brings ‘big name’ to small town

    Ex-president visits WOU, says Hillary will work for state

    EUNICE KIM
    Statesman Journal

    April 27, 2008

    MONMOUTH — Nicole Espeland, 21, laughed when she first heard former president Bill Clinton was coming to Monmouth. She didn’t expect a “big name” to visit the small town, but she’s glad he did.

    “It gets issues out to smaller communities,” Espeland said. “It makes people pay more attention to what he’s actually saying.”

    Espeland was among 800 to 1,000 who gathered Saturday in the Old Gym at Western Oregon University to listen to Clinton as he promoted the presidential candidacy of his wife, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, and witness a campaign strategy that helped her beat Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in Pennsylvania: concentrating on smaller communities and rural issues.

    It was the former president’s second visit to the Mid-Willamette Valley in a month. His other stops during the latest swing through the state included North Bend, Junction City, Albany, McMinnville, Oregon City and Portland.

    In Monmouth, he told the crowd that Hillary Clinton has helped bridge the urban-rural divide that is hurting the country.

    “(She has) helped people in rural areas get better educations, better economic opportunities, clean energy, energy independence, the kind of things that we need for America,” he said.

    Bill Clinton’s hour-long speech touched on a variety of Hillary Clinton’s goals, including creating more jobs, lessening the country’s reliance on oil, increasing energy efficiency, recommitting to research and taking care of veterans.

    He said she is the only candidate who has a plan to extend health insurance for everyone.

    “You cannot get a hold of the costs unless you cover everyone,” he said.

    Bill Clinton also discussed several education issues. He said Hillary Clinton wants to have universal free kindergarten, change the No Child Left Behind law, and make student loans more affordable.

    “She believes if you get out of college and go into public service where you’ll never get rich but you will do good … your service itself should repay your loans,” he said, prompting a burst of cheers.

    Throughout his speech, the former president also referred to points in Hillary Clinton’s “Oregon Compact,” such as finding a solution to salmon-population issues and protecting old-growth forests. He said she is the only candidate left who voted against the Bush-Cheney energy bill that stripped the state of the right to make its own decision on the siting of liquefied-natural-gas facilities.

    “Her Oregon Compact recognizes that the people in this state value personal autonomy…” he said.

    Many at the “Solutions for America” event, including Jana Kay Slater of Corvallis, said they appreciated what the former president had to say about issues important to Oregonians.

    “It was very convincing,” Slater said. “I thought it was well-tailored to Oregon’s interests.”

    Larry Lundy, 54, of Salem said he’s glad candidates are paying attention to Oregon and that the state will have a say in the upcoming primary unlike in elections past.

    “I think the people of Oregon should have the right to express their opinion and when they do, it should count … Oregon is just as important as Florida in my book,” said the Clinton supporter.

    Oregon’s primary is May 20, but voters are expected to get mail ballots starting May 3. The state will divide 52 of its 65 delegates to the Democratic National Convention by the proportions of Democratic votes won by Clinton and Barack Obama.

    Both presidential candidates have made stops in the state this spring and are expected to return.

    For Scott Riordan, 59, of Monmouth, Bill Clinton’s visit solidified his support for Hillary Clinton.

    The Monmouth resident had been favoring her but wanted to see if her team was approaching the campaign the same way he thought she was, based on facts and not on “cheerleading.” After listening to the former president’s speech, he was convinced.

    “The guy is incredible and a wonderful part of Hillary’s team,” Riordan said.

    ekim@statesmanjournal.com or (503) 399-6721

    159.54.226.83/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080427/ELECTION03/804270344/1001

  214. I agree dot48,

    which is why he press and upstanding and honorable folks like Richardson and Clyburn attack him all the time.

    He is an incredible asset and boy does he work it. This guy is out there on the stump day in and day out, telling it like it is, bringing Hillary’s message to all who care to listen.

    I like him much better now than I did before 🙂

  215. BHO trying to appeal to the Independents and Republicans just like the time he praised Reagan’s vision…and got the ire of the Clinton campaign. This time, I hope they don’t take the bait.

    Let him praise Republican whatever…they are just trying to snare HRC into a response so they can push how negative she is. People see through his praising Republican “whatever” this time, and know his ploy is to try to get swing voters back.

    Hopefully, this time the Independents and Republicans see his strictly appeal tactics and don’t take the bait, either. Makes him look stupid and disingenous IMHO. What a sell-out all the way around. Talk about a politician that will say anything or do anything to get elected…..yep, and that politician would be BHO.

  216. 04/27: Conversation with Ambassador Joe Wilson (Portland State University)
    04/27: Conversation with Ambassador Joe Wilson (University of Oregon)

    This is great! Joe Wilson campaigning for Hillary in Oregon

  217. yeah this was the whole purpose of the “interview” with Fox LOL. Poor Chris Wallace didn’t get the memo that it would be about trying to steal votes from McCain. Couldn’t happen to a nicer person LOL

    If I didn’t hate bambi so much I’d clap that Wallace got a fast one pulled on him. He’s so sucking the obamadick when I see him

  218. linfar:
    Keep up the great work. Between your eye-openers, Rezko Watch, and the links yesterday to “Scoop” independent News and the articles detailing BHO’s chronological, detailed, intertwined dealings with the corrupt Chicago Combine……….enough talking points for ten campaigns.

  219. Did you see the pictures from University of Indiana on Hillary’s website? It looks great! Lots of people there!

  220. Go JOE!!! Wilson and Scarborough too if he keeps being decent to Hillary!

    GO HILLARY, GO BILL, GO HILLARY IS 44 .. come on folks we can bring it home for her. we’ve been some of her biggest assets in this campaign. we’ve arranged money bombs, money bombs, we’ve canvassed, we’ve phone banked, we’ve blogged, we’ve sent comments to the hateful news media and paper, we’ve sent comments to those who have been fair to her.

    Come on folks we still have a LOT of work to do. It’ ain’t over cause fathead Brazilla ain’t sung yet and I don’t see her in the wings.

  221. Bill Kristol, on Fox News Sunday, just said that Pennsylvania proves that Hillary Clinton is the better candidate (compared to Obama), that she really has gotten more primary votes no matter how you look at it, and that this is just sexism.

    Just sayin’ in case people want to look for a Youtube video of this when it becomes available.

  222. Yes, we need to have a 3X choir suit boxed up ready to send out the minute her darling Obama is dethroned, so her #@# @$$ can sing!

  223. I do see the tide turning because now Dean is saying it’s all about electability – he must have seen the results from PA and the polls lately showing Obama’s losing ground and every day we do learn something new about Obama that scares us even more – we just have to work hard to help turn Indiana and North Carolina in our favor – if we can surprise the pundits by not only winning Pennsylvania – but bringing in 10 million dollars and 100,000 new donors – we can continue to do well but….

    WE HAVE TO WORK HARD!

  224. Bill Kristol was so for Obama when this thing launched. Wonderful news. He enjoys being first to see tides turning, and being able to say, “I told you so.” Works for me.

  225. Bill Clinton in Albany
    By AnneMarie Knepper
    Albany Democrat-Herald
    ALBANY — For Nicole Niskanen of Albany, listening Saturday to Bill Clinton speak about his wife, presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, was an emotional experience.

    As she sat atop her mother’s shoulders, Nicole, 9, was so inspired that she burst into tears.

    She and her mother, Christina, along with big sister Amanda, 11, were among the more than 1,000 people who gathered at the Linn County Fair & Expo Center to hear former president Bill Clinton speak on behalf of his wife, who is in a hotly contested bid against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    Oregon voters will decide between the candidates in the May 20 primary election, so both candidates have stepped up campaign activities here in the past six weeks.

    A Clinton aide noticed the little girl and asked her backstage to meet the president following his speech.

    “She’s a very brave woman,” Nicole said of Hillary. “It takes a lot of courage to run for president. She sets goals.”

    Sister Amanda also is a young Hillary supporter. “She believes in doing what she can and she really tries hard at everything she does,” Amanda said.

    The former president was running late from his first scheduled stop in Junction City, so people were not let in until 10:30 a.m., a half-hour later than originally scheduled. The first spectators had begun forming a line at the fair and expo center at 5:30 a.m.

    During his one-hour speech, Bill Clinton outlined the three main reasons he believes Hillary is the best candidate for president. He said that she would create jobs, improve America’s standing in the world and be a “change-maker” instead of just talking about change.

    Against a backdrop with a cascading pattern that included the word “JOBS” and Hillary Clinton’s website, Bill thanked and greeted the crowd of mostly mid-valley residents.

    “People like you are the reason she is still in this race,” he said.

    In a comment that drew laughs, Clinton said he is the designated rural speaker for his wife, since he “knows the crop cycle and one end of a horse from the other.”

    Clinton spoke both of national and state issues. He said that Hillary lobbied him to support the Oregon Health Plan in 1993, and that she would reinstate the county payments for timber receipts program.

    “This country works best when it’s a country of shared prosperity,” he said.

    The former president said nothing negative about Obama. Rather, he wove specifics about his wife’s policies into a conversational speech peppered with anecdotes.

    He spoke about Hillary’s “Oregon Compact,” which is detailed on her website, HillaryClinton.com. The compact includes 10 Oregon-specific plans including — among other things — bringing green jobs and affordable health care to Oregonians — and even the state’s decimated salmon population, which she wants to see restored.

    Albany resident Ted Bunch brought his son Kimani, 16, to Clinton’s campaign appearance.

    “I came to see Bill,” Ted Bunch said. “I am undecided, and Bill is not going to change my mind. Any time I have a chance to see a president, I’m going. Though I don’t think I’d go out of my way to see Bush.”

    Corvallis resident Kristi Gienger said she came mostly out of curiosity, as well as the chance to see a former president in person.

    When it was over, Gienger said she is generally not politically active but Clinton had “given her something to think about.”

    Clinton closed out his visit to Albany by shaking hands with spectators, kissing babies and — after his staff collected them from audience members — signing a pile of books and other items.

    Little Nicole left clutching his autograph on a piece of paper.

    http://www.dhonline.com/articles/2008/04/27/news/top_story/1aaa01_clinton.txt
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    There is a wonderful video if Bill attached to the article.

  226. linfar: great diary. I did recommend it, and posted a couple of comments. This diary is not based upon your opinion only, but also, by the la times. The information is verifiable. People don’t get, that this guy is a dirty Chicago politician that will say and/or do anything to get elected. Obamabots just don’t want to hear anything negative about Waffles.

  227. Dot48

    I think it’s time for the Clinton campaign to start reminding the AA community of things that Bill Clinton and Hillary has done for them.

    It’s way overdue.

    The community has forgotten it seems or many of them.

    Had it not been for Clinton would Brazillahead even have had the opportunity to work for Al Gore?

    So many careers on the Clinton’s back and absolutely some of the most digusting “thank yous” ever.
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    I think you are so right on this. If someone know all that the Clintons have done for the AA comunity, please put it out there for us. It would certainly help to have that info available when trying to convert some of his AA supporters to Hill supporters.

  228. Former President Bill Clinton campaigns for his wife, Democratic presidential contender Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, in Junction City.

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    JUNCTION CITY — With her red-white-and-blue American flag sweater and her patriotically striped styrofoam boater hat, Donna Peckham stood out from the early-morning crowd Saturday as she waited for former President Bill Clinton to convince her why she should vote for his wife, Hillary Clinton, in O’regon’s upcoming Democratic Party presidential primary.

    But the 71-year-old resident of Pleasant Hill made it clear she wasn’t there as a committed Hillary supporter.

    “I wanted to listen to the other side of the coin — I like to hear both sides, Democratic and Republican,” Peckham said. “I want to see everyone working together for the country, not just for a party, and I want to hear what Bill Clinton has to say about that. That’s basically why I’m here.”

    Being near the head of the line that snaked away from the doors of the Junction City High School gymnasium snagged her a good vantage point once she got inside, among a throng of 200 or so of the 600-plus crowd allowed to cluster at the foot of the podium where Clinton breezed in, without introduction, at 9:30 a.m., about 45 minutes after the announced starting time.

    Without fanfare, but instantly noticeable in a brown sportcoat, light blue shirt and vivid tangerine tie, Clinton launched into an almost-hourlong rundown that could have been titled, “Yet Another Good Reason You Should Vote For My Wife For President.”

    “When Hillary announced that I would be speaking all over Oregon in small towns and rural areas, the political pundits in Portland thought I was nuts,” he began. “A professor at Reed College said it wouldn’t work, that it was ‘old politics.’ Well, I think it really matters what happens in rural America. When 33 of Oregon’s 36 counties are officially classified as rural, if that’s ‘old politics,’ then who are we leaving behind?”

    It’s true that many economic opportunities have gravitated to urban areas in this country, “but that’s wrong,” Clinton said. “America should be about leaving nobody behind — it should be about shared prosperity, shared opportunity and shared responsibility.”

    The crowd roared its approval.

    He received additional roars as he told the crowd about “The Oregon Compact,” a 13-page campaign promise he said Hillary Clinton has pledged to pursue if elected to the nation’s highest office.

    “Oregon has led the nation when it comes to crafting creative, innovative solutions to complex problems,” the document begins. “In the many areas where Oregon is leading the nation and paving new ground, (a Hillary Clinton administration) will use the state as a model instead of standing in its way,” it continues.

    Her goals for Oregon include sustainable jobs, health care, continuation of federal payments to counties in lieu of taxes on timberlands, improved services to military personnel and families, salmon and forest protection and support for the state’s physician-assisted suicide law.

    As a whole, the country faces “staggering challenges” that include a dysfunctional economy that has crushed the middle class, loss of America’s standing as a trusted leader for peace in the world, reduction of global warming and inadequate access to health insurance, Clinton said.

    He asked how many in the crowd “know someone who doesn’t have health insurance,” and most raised a hand.

    In one of few references to Hillary Clinton’s heated contest with Barack Obama for the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination, Clinton acknowledged that both candidates “have proposals that would be better than what we have now.”

    The fact that so many people lack health insurance is a primary reason for the high premiums paid by everyone who has it, Clinton said.

    If everyone were covered in a nationwide health-care plan, “you’d save $50 million right off the bat,” which is the amount spent on caring for people who don’t have insurance or have been excluded because of pre-existing conditions, he said. Furthermore, “30 percent of every insurance premium goes to paperwork — if you get everyone into the same big health-care insurance pool, you save $200 million more in paperwork alone.”

    He drew loud applause when he said, “Nobody should have to pay more than a small percentage of their annual income for health insurance.”

    In enthusiastic policy wonk fashion, Clinton threw out numbers and proposals for improving education, caring for tens of thousands of military veterans coming out of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, returning to a balanced federal budget and creating jobs by repealing subsidies to oil companies and using the money to retrofit public and private buildings for energy efficiency.

    At the end of his speech, he made the plea that brought him to Junction City in advance of Oregon’s May 20 primary: “I want you to think about this — I believe if Oregon says ‘yes’ to Hillary, she will win the nomination.”

    Afterward, Eugene resident Carolyn Beall said Clinton’s speech further cemented her already strong support for Hillary Clinton.

    “I love him — he’s great,” Beall said. “And I love Hillary — I think both of them are fabulous for this country. We’d be fools not to elect her. She’s going places, and the country should go with her.”

    Peckham likewise pronounced herself satisfied.

    “Oh, hey, I’m glad I came — it was very impressive, seeing him in person,” she said. “I like the way he focused on issues and talked about Hillary working with Republicans to solve problems. I’m not saying that I agreed with everything, but I liked the way he talked about doing things not just for now but for the future. I’m concerned about the future for my grandchildren.”

    Junction City resident Jason Kilgore said Clinton’s speech was “about what I expected,” although he was pleased with Clinton’s comments about Oregon’s capacity to produce more wind power to help solve energy shortages and costs.

    “That resonates with me,” Kilgore said. As for the election, “I’m still pretty well on the fence, although Bill Clinton is a very good speaker. I would be happy with either Clinton or Obama” on the November ballot. “Actually, I’m still leaning toward Obama,” he said.
    http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/dt.cms.support.viewStory.cls?cid=96937&sid=4&fid=1&p=print

  229. curiosityhasme @ 2:49 pm
    “BHO trying to appeal to the Independents and Republicans just like the time he praised Reagan’s vision…and got the ire of the Clinton campaign. This time, I hope they don’t take the bait.
    Let him praise Republican whatever…they are just trying to snare HRC into a response so they can push how negative she is.”

    BO’s negatives are finally going up (because we’ve been whacking him), and they’re already slaughtering Hillary.

    Regulations are what keeps lead from being put into toys, and keeps nuclear waste from seeping into groundwater.

    He’s wrong on these issues and Hill should pound him, IMO.
    I thought of that same example of Reagan too Curiosity, but this is a huge fastball down the heart of the plate.
    Hill should crank it out of the park.

  230. I have a colleague with whom I argue politics frequently. We’ve been emailing this week about our shared disgust for 👿 Here’s what I sent him this morning:

    Larry Johnson over at NoQuarterUSA did a story this weekend on Obama having worked for Ayers for 8 years prior to being on the Woods Foundation board. Seems Ayers set up a non-profit foundation and his first director- his first hire was one Barack Obama. Throw in Ayers wife working at Sidley Austin when Michelle was an associate and Barack working there his 1L Summer…. these are very long ties. And Wright has ties to Ayers and Dohrn.

    Joe, I can disagree with you over Hillary. I don’t think she’s the monster she’s been portrayed as. I do agree she is relentless. It’s one of the things I like about her. And I don’t think she’s a communist or a socialist, but I do think she believes some issues require a collective effort. And I don’t think she stayed with Bill in order to be POTUS. Why? Because of her relationship with Chelsea.

    When Bill was here earlier this year, I went. I got to shake hands with him briefly. A friend of mine was the point person for Chelsea. She spent the whole day squiring Chelsea all over OU and Campus Corner. She said Chelsea was the most down to Earth, normal political kid she had ever met (and she’s met plenty in her line of work). She was most surprised about two things- Chelsea leads a normal life in NY- takes the subway, eats at bodegas. But mostly, she spent a good portion of the day texting back and forth with her mother. They are very close and not because of the campaign. She is her mother’s daughter. and as active as Hillary has been in her husband’s political life, as active as she has been in her own career and activism and now political life- she raised that child. I dunno, but for me, that’s a big deal. I can see why she stayed with him to save her family. And though Bill is a dirty dick bastard, I’ve always thought that should be between him, his wife and his god. Maybe the passion has left, but I think they do love each other. To be honest, save my grandparents, I know few couples for whom passion remains after 30 yrs of marriage.

    I do a lot of divorce work and I can tell you people put up with a lot of stuff- some stay because of money but most because they made a commitment. The latter tend to only leave when their lives or children’s lives are threatened. Given her access to money and ability to make it, I think she’s the latter type. I think a lot of it has to be her own religious views but most of it- Chelsea. Go figure.

    With regards to Obama, I knew in August 2004 he would be running for POTUS. I also knew he was the DNC’s candidate. I think my party is royally screwed. Much like the GOP, in order to build winning coalitions, it got away from its roots. The GOP let the religious crazies in and the Democrats let the elitist dickheads in. My form of being a Democrat is more blue collar. I think folks ought to make their own decisions and reap what they sow. I don’t think government should tell them what they can or cannot do with their bodies be it drugs, abortion, seatbelts, religion. It should be proactive in taking out bad business that affects the whole of the nation (FI- predatory lending, manipulating energy prices), and it should provide for the common defense and infrastructure. Taxes should be as low as possible to accomplish that. Period.

    I think Obama does not care. I think he is nothing but blind ambition and a manmade creation. He has no policy measures of his own, he has never accomplished anything and he has made a point of surrounding himself with dangerous radicals. He may have not been there in the 60’s but he is steeped in that tradition and those bad actors. Hillary, in contrast, was there in the 60’s but instead of fanning the flames of radicalism and marching and leading violent protests, she actually worked very hard to lead educational sit-ins as opposed to what the more radical students wanted. She had forums instead of riots, led conferences between students and administration. For me that’s reasonable and what a real leader does. And unlike him, she actually did see MLK in the flesh and it actually meant something to her middle class, white bread, Methodist church attending butt. She didn’t co-opt his speeches, she’s made a point of following the example.

    Getting to McCain, a good friend of hers, I actually like and respect him. I think he’s hard nosed and decent. I think he’s paying a lot of lip service to the more rightwing elements of the party, but he has to. It’s an election year. Has he been perfect? No. But if he were, he’d have gone to seminary school. Do I think he’d be a bad president? No. Do I think he’s dangerous? No. I cannot fathom why the more liberal blogs vilify him like they do. I don’t think he’s what they pretend he is, but I don’t think he’s being authentic right now either- but again- it’s a political necessity right now.

    I’d like to see him and Hillary debate. Maybe Lincoln-Douglas style. Let them line out the issues facing our country and address openly how they would resolve them. If politics is supposed to be about the marketplace of ideas, let’s see what product each of them is offering and be done with it.

    Anyhow, sorry about this long response, but I sorta wanted you to understand where I am coming from on this election. I know some of my Democrat friends bitch at me for saying I’d vote for McCain and call me a bad Democrat, but I am an American first. Democrat second. If we want true post-partisanship (whatever the hell that means) or bipartisanship as both Hillary and McCain have both demonstrated, the choice is clear, and it is not Obama.

    Have a great weekend.

  231. wow thanks for posting all the articles from Oregon, they look great, and it will only be a bam when Hillary goes there after Indiana and North Carolina votes

  232. Kulongoski reasserts his support of Clinton candidacy
    By Anita Burke
    Mail Tribune
    April 25, 2008 6:00 AM
    Gov. Ted Kulongoski visited Medford on Thursday to voice his support for Hillary Clinton and her recently released “Oregon Compact,” an 11-point plan that focuses on regional issues.

    Standing in front of the Central Library in downtown Medford, he also repeated a Clinton campaign call, launched Wednesday, for two debates in Oregon with Barack Obama.

    “I believe Oregon can be important to this election,” Kulongoski said. “We deserve national attention on issues that affect us. It’s our time to shine.”

    Oregon’s May 20 presidential primary, once thought to be too late in the campaign to matter, has taken on increased significance.

    Nick Shapiro, communications director for the Obama campaign in Oregon, previously issued a statement indicating that a debate here is unlikely after 21 Democratic debates and four one-on-one debates with Clinton that have been televised nationally.

    He said Obama’s focus is on meeting directly with Oregon voters about issues that matter to them, including jobs, ending the war in Iraq, combating climate change and making health care affordable for all.

    Kulongoski, who is a superdelegate to the Democratic convention, said he had watched all the candidates, then thrown his support behind Clinton nearly a year ago.

    “She is the smartest person in this campaign,” he said. “She has more experience, not just political experience, but life experience, and that’s what makes us who we are.”

    The governor’s staff and other Oregon Democrats helped create the compact by tailoring Clinton’s general campaign points to regional concerns.

    The compact points out her support for federal payments to timber-dependent counties and for state authority to decide on the placement of liquefied natural gas terminals.

    It also outlines her plans to protect old-growth forests and roadless areas, expand wilderness areas and manage forests in a way that protects resources and creates jobs. She advocates working together to restore wild salmon populations without breaching large dams, the document says.

    Kulongoski touted Clinton’s understanding of health care, support for soldiers and veterans through a new G.I. bill, and promises on creating “green” jobs and cutting oil imports and greenhouse gas emissions. She also would defend Oregon’s law that allows terminally ill patients to get prescriptions to end their lives.

    Shapiro noted that the two candidates agree on many of the issues targeted in Clinton’s compact, including health care and support for veterans and service members.

    “Oregonians need more than a plan,” he said. “We need leadership to solve the problems that we talk about year after year after year in Washington.”

    In an interview with the Mail Tribune in March, Obama said he supports state authority to decide on placement of liquefied natural gas terminals, that he advocates federal, state and local authorities working together to find a long-term solution on timber payments, and that he wouldn’t use Justice Department resources to circumvent state laws on physician-assisted suicide or medical marijuana.

    His campaign pointed out that he also favors creating green jobs, controlling oil use and global warming, protecting parks and wilderness areas, and sustainably managing forests and salmon populations.

    Obama netted the endorsement of Oregon superdelegate U.S. Rep. David Wu, who announced his support Thursday in Portland.

    http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080425/NEWS/804250333/-1/LIFE

  233. Blue Deocrat:
    Point well made. However, realizing that they pounce every time she responds to one of BHO’s statements, she should make it short and sweet, without any emotion attached. Facts, just the facts, ma’am. In any event, they will turn anything she says into some huge story. Maybe she should say “I don’t happen to agree.” Period. End of story.

  234. wow Hillary’s won 60 of 67 counties in Pennsylvania

    We should analyze how many counties Hillary’s won in the states and how many Obama’s won

  235. I’m not getting all excited about the news that Obama was officially a paid employee for Ayers.

    Fox will report it perhaps but the big media will most likely gloss over it. I just don’t get it.

    Perhaps if it’s sent to enough papers in Indiana and North Carolina .. or to the GOP In North Carolina .. that woman seems willing to expose the liar for what he is.

  236. http://inyourface.info/ArT/Alpha/CaR.shtml

    What does Obama care about?
    He cares about hospitals, not the nurses that work in them and less about his cousin who is nurse, who works in them.

    The following is part of a story titled “Your Money or Your Life” written by Dan Frosch, for The Nation in February, the 15th, 2005.

    “Five long years ago, Rose Shaffer’s life seemed sweet. A nurse since the early 1970s, Shaffer had spent most of her 60 years working at various Chicago hospitals, rising through the caregiver ranks and raising three kids. Now in the twilight of her career, she’d been hired as director of nursing at a home health agency in the suburb of Lombard. The position made Shaffer proud – she knew her salary could pay off the mortgage on her house a little sooner. At the time, her cousin Barack Obama was fast becoming a rising star in the Illinois State Senate.

  237. Joe Klein to Tweety about the large chunk of Clinton supporters who say they will not vote for Bambi if he gets the nomination:

    These things can turn on a dime. People were SO SICK of Bill Clinton in June of 1992, and it turned like that.

    ??????

    I don’t know what planet Klien was living on, but it was a THREE WAY RACE until Perot started to unravel right in front of everybody’s eyes.

    Obviously the Media Whores were sick of Clinton, but the American people were not.

  238. Today’s pay-to-play Obama scandal cuts at the heart of Obama’s bogus campaign theme — that he’s somehow got superior ethics to everyone. Well, it turns out Obama’s one of the most corrupt people in Washington:

    ——
    Obama donor received a state grant
    His letter on behalf of a table tennis company preceded the funding.

    By Chuck Neubauer and Tom Hamburger
    Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
    April 27, 2008

    WASHINGTON — After an unsuccessful campaign for Congress in 2000, Illinois state Sen. Barack Obama faced serious financial pressure: numerous debts, limited cash and a law practice he had neglected for a year. Help arrived in early 2001 from a significant new legal client — a longtime political supporter.

    Chicago entrepreneur Robert Blackwell Jr. paid Obama an $8,000-a-month retainer to give legal advice to his growing technology firm, Electronic Knowledge Interchange. It allowed Obama to supplement his $58,000 part-time state Senate salary for over a year with regular payments from Blackwell’s firm that eventually totaled $112,000.

    A few months after receiving his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin.

    Killerspin specializes in table tennis, running tournaments nationwide and selling its own line of equipment and apparel and DVD recordings of the competitions. With support from Obama, other state officials and an Obama aide who went to work part time for Killerspin, the company eventually obtained $320,000 in state grants between 2002 and 2004 to subsidize its tournaments.

    Obama’s staff said the senator advocated only for the first year’s grant — which ended up being $20,000, not $50,000. The day after Obama wrote his letter urging the awarding of the state funds, Obama’s U.S. Senate campaign received a $1,000 donation from Blackwell.

    Obama’s presidential campaign rejects any suggestion that there was a connection between the legal work, the campaign contribution and the help with the grant. “Any implication that Sen. Obama would risk an ethical breach in order to secure a small grant for a pingpong tournament is nuts,” said David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political advisor.

  239. Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism

    Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of antiSemitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative “Jewish lobby,” the Jewish/Zionist “world conspiracy,” and Jewish/Israeli “warmongers.” One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a “holy war”; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct

    http://inyourface.info/ArT/Alpha/DeFA.shtml

  240. http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/26/183238/623

    8 More States…Still a Tie

    It’s kind of funny, if you’ve been paying attention…

    Before Super Tuesday (Feb. 5th), people said Hillary had to win California plus a couple of states in the Northeast besides New York.
    She did.

    Before March 4th, people said Hillary had to win Texas and Ohio.
    She did (yes she won Texas, by more than 100,000 votes

  241. About Gore and Carter.

    I find it hard to believe that either of them would really work for Obama.

    Evidence: Carter recently said that he would not endorse till the Convention — message to HIllary to take it to the convention if necessary. Also, he said to expect support from the SDs a candidate would need to have ALL THREE: POPULAR VOTE and delegate lead and states. Otherwise it would need some ‘explaining’. He also said that individual SDs were free to vote their own judgement anyway.

    Evidence re Gore is sketchy, just a rumour that when he voted he said ‘I hope she wins.” But he worked with HIllary, he knows how capable she is, he and the Clintons agreed on policy in the 90s, he’s a wonk too, he knows just how bad Obama’s policies are. And after what happened to Gore in 2000 with media bias and the Florida vote, I bet he’s looking into that real carefully now.

  242. dot48 Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
    I’m not getting all excited about the news that Obama was officially a paid employee for Ayers.

    Fox will report it perhaps but the big media will most likely gloss over it. I just don’t get it.

    Perhaps if it’s sent to enough papers in Indiana and North Carolina .. or to the GOP In North Carolina .. that woman seems willing to expose the liar for what he is.
    *****************************************************
    This is big news because there is more of this stuff out there. I have no doubt that the republicans are holding back alot of information on Obama.

    Obama associates are going to drip, drip , drip all the way to the G.E.

    This dripping away will hurt dems down the line if Obama is the candidate…

  243. Its a good debate line:
    “You say these relationships don’t mean anything Barck, but you were on the PAYROLL of a William Ayers”

  244. basil and others,

    I haven’t checked this, but what I remember from the 1950s is something like this:

    1. The undisputed delegates come into the convention. This would be all except FL and MI. This would include the SDs: they are just like any other delegate.

    2. Someone calls for a vote about FL and MI. If a PLURALITY votes for them, they come in too.

    3. If FL and MI have come in, then they can vote along with the rest. This might give Hillary her magic number MAJORITY and make her the nominee.

    The point is that it takes LESS votes to get FL/MI in, than it takes to get the nomination. Edwards’ 26 delegates are still pledged to Edwards, but they can vote to allow FL/MI if they want to. There are other delegates who might not want to vote for HIllary outright, at least on the first ballot, but might be willing to vote for FL and/or MI.

    I don’t know what Dean meant — probabaly he still hopes FL/MI don’t get seated till the nomination is decided and the nominee can request everyone to bring them in. But it is possible for a plurality of the rest of the delegates to bring them in before a nominee is chosen.

  245. HillBillyLover Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
    Bill Kristol just said Hillary is a better candidate and that all this crap is sexism.

    Incredible.

  246. 1981 Brinks Robbery by the Black Liberation Army and the Weathermen.

    1981 Brinks Robbery-Wikipedia
    Main article: Brinks robbery (1981)
    In 1981, when Kathy Boudin was 38 years old, she and several members of the Weather Underground and the Black Liberation Army robbed a Brinks armored car at the Nanuet Mall, in Nanuet, New York. After Boudin dropped her infant son, Chesa, at a baby sitter’s she took the wheel of the getaway vehicle, a U-Haul truck. Kathy Boudin waited in a nearby parking lot as her heavily armed accomplices took another vehicle to a local mall where a Brinks truck was making a delivery. They confronted the guards and firing immediately broke out, severely wounding guard Joe Trombino and killing his co-worker, Peter Paige. The four then took $1.6 million in cash and rendezvoused with Boudin.

    An alert high-school student called the police after spotting the heavily armed gang abandoning the getaway vehicle and entering the U-Haul. A police officer spotted and pulled over the U-Haul, but they could only see Boudin in the drivers seat. Boudin then got out of the cab, and raised her hands.

    The police officers who caught them testified that Boudin, feigning innocence, pleaded with them to put down their guns and got them to drop their guard; Boudin said she remained silent, that the officers relaxed spontaneously. After the police did lower their weapons six of the men in the back of the truck armed with automatic weapons came out of the back of the truck, surprising the four police officers. A police officer, Waverly Brown, was killed instantly. Boudin and David Gilbert, a Weatherman radical and the father of Boudin’s infant son, allegedly acted as decoys as well as getaway drivers: The Brinks robbers the police were searching for were all from the Black Liberation Army and drove a red car. Officer Edward O’Grady lived long enough to empty his revolver, but as he reloaded, he was shot several times with an M16. Ninety minutes later, he died on a hospital operating table. The other two officers escaped with only minor injuries. The occupants of the U-Haul scattered, some climbing into another getaway car, others carjacking a nearby motorist while Boudin attempted to flee on foot. An off-duty corrections officer apprehended her shortly after the shoot out. When she was arrested, Boudin gave her name as Barbara Edson.

    Three other Black Liberation Army members failed to escape that day. Weatherman David Gilbert, Samuel Brown, and Judith Alice Clark crashed their own car while making a sharp turn, and were arrested by police. Two days later, Samuel Smith and Nathaniel Burns were spotted in a car in New York. After a gunfight with police that left Smith dead, Burns was captured. Three more participants were arrested several months later.

    The majority of the defendants received three consecutive sentences of 25 years to life, making them eligible for parole in the year 2058. Boudin hired Leonard Weinglass to defend her. Weinglass, a law partner of Boudin’s father, arranged for a plea bargain and Boudin pled guilty to one count of felony murder and robbery, in exchange for one twenty years to life sentence.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Boudin

  247. OBAMA WAS PART OF THE MILLION MAN MARCH

    Democrat presidential front-runner Barack Obama not only marched with Nation of Islam Founder Louis Farrakhan in the first Million Man March on Washington, D.C., but he helped organize the 1995 event!

    The “he marched” claim was reported in a 1995 Chicago Reader article and brought back to the attention of the blogosphere March 29 by Hugh Hewitt. The new revelation, however, was unearthed today by Gateway Pundit.

    Buried 13 years deep inside the archives at Biography.com, the biography of Farrakhan includes this statement:

    In 1995, along with other prominent black leaders such as Al Sharpton and Barack Obama, Farrakhan helped lead the Million Man March on Washington. A second march, called the Millions More Movement, took place in 2005.

    In case you don’t remember — or weren’t around yet — for the 1995 effort, the most-memorable thing about it was the controversy over crowd-size estimates.

    March organizers at the time estimated the crowd size at between 1.5 and 2 million people while the United States Park Police officially estimated the crowd size at 400,000, according to the Wikipedia entry about the event. [Translation: The rabble-rousing, hate-America organizers of the event got caught telling, for lack of a more-racially appropriate term, “a little white lie”.]

    Now, it’s going to be interesting to see how Obama’s campaign spin doctors spin this one.

    — Bob McCarty Writes

  248. LINFAR,
    I’m gonna check your diary but . . .

    HOW DO YOU REC a diary?

    Do you have to be reigstered? I’m not and I don’t see where to rec.

  249. basil, not linfar, but I can tell you. You have to be registered. Once registered, on the right-hand side, there’s a “recommend” button. Click on it and your name is added to a list or people who have done the same.

  250. The Two Police officers Killed in the 1981 Brinks Robbery:

    Edward O’Grady II (August 20, 1948 – October 20, 1981) was born in Nyack, New York. After graduating high school, he joined the United States Marine Corps and served two tours of service in the Vietnam War. O’Grady joined the Nyack Police department after his discharge and also worked as a volunteer fire fighter with the Nyack fire department. In 1976, O’Grady was promoted to sergeant, the youngest person in the history of Rockland County, New York to achieve that rank. At the time of his death, he was enrolled at St. Thomas Aquinas College and was close to receiving his bachelor’s degree in criminal justice. He was survived by his wife and three children. His son, Edward J. O’Grady III, went on to join the United States Navy, graduating from the United States Naval Academy in 1997.

    During the 1981 robbery of a Brinks armored car by members of the Black Liberation Army and Weather Underground, O’Grady was shot several times with an M16. Ninety minutes later, he died on a hospital operating table.
    Edward O’Grady II (August 20, 1948 – October 20, 1981) was born in Nyack, New York. After graduating high school, he joined the United States Marine Corps and served two tours of service in the Vietnam War. O’Grady joined the Nyack Police department after his discharge and also worked as a volunteer fire fighter with the Nyack fire department. In 1976, O’Grady was promoted to sergeant, the youngest person in the history of Rockland County, New York to achieve that rank. At the time of his death, he was enrolled at St. Thomas Aquinas College and was close to receiving his bachelor’s degree in criminal justice. He was survived by his wife and three children. His son, Edward J. O’Grady III, went on to join the United States Navy, graduating from the United States Naval Academy in 1997.

    During the 1981 robbery of a Brinks armored car by members of the Black Liberation Army and Weather Underground, O’Grady was shot several times with an M16. Ninety minutes later, he died on a hospital operating table.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_O%27Grady_II”

    and

    Waverly L. Brown(1935-1981) was an Nyack, New York police officer who was killed in the line of duty during an infamous 1981 armed robbery of a Brinks Armored Car, along with fellow Nyack officer Edward O’Grady and Brinks security guard Peter Paige. The event garnered national headlines and led the arrest and imprisonment of several people involved, many of whom were members of the Weather Underground and Black Liberation Army.

    Prior to his law enforcement career, Brown served in the United States Air Force and participated in the Korean War. In 1966, he became the first African American member of Nyack’s police department. By 1981, he had served with the department for 15 years. Nicknamed “Chipper”, he was well liked by his fellow officers, and often cooked meals for them during his shift
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waverly_Brown
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    I just can’t wait for those republican ads running in New York and elsewhere with pictures of these brave police officers one black and on white with the voiceover…

    Barack Obama loves to cry the race when legitimate questions arise on his judgement over his personal and professional relationships with known terrorist organizations.

  251. From the Officer Down Memorial page:

    http://www.odmp.org/officer/2372-police-officer-waverly-l.-brown

    http://www.odmp.org/officer/10136-sergeant-edward-j.-ogrady-jr.

    Btw, here is the Time 1981 article of this incident with more names listed.

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,950580,00.html
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    Now if I can find all this information regarding Obama’s friends and associates in 10 seconds, why didn’t the MSM or Big Media report this? Will this be our September surprise? Or will the drip, drip, drip and more drip continue to the fall?

  252. hi hillfans. i just got finished watching wallace interview obama and omg. it was a softball puff piece. i am convinced obama before the interview limited how agressive wallace can be. i mean wallace is usually hard hitting right?

  253. from Ben Smith at politico just now…..HUGE….I guess BO made one slip up today during wallace interview….

    McCain blames Obama for Wright issue

    Here’s a new angle from McCain, at an avail today, at which he said, more or less, that he didn’t plan to attack Obama on Wright, but that Obama — by calling the question “legitimate” — had legitimized it.

    It’s a move either clever, or too cute, depending on how you see it — but it’ll serve to keep the story in the news, and to signal surrogates that it’s more than fair game.

    He’s also showed a detailed knowledge of the story.

    I’ve stated my position very clearly that I don’t like the ad. I was interested that this morning Senator Obama said that it was a legitimate political issue. If he believes that, then it will probably be a political issue. I saw yesterday some additional comments that have been revealed by Pastor Wright, one of them comparing the United States Marine Corps with Roman legionnaires who were responsible for the death of our Savior. I mean being involved in that — it’s beyond belief. And then of course saying that Al Qaeda and the American Flag were the same flags.

    So I can understand — I can understand why the American people are upset about this. I can understand that Americans viewing these kinds of comments are angry and upset, just like they viewed Senator Obama’s statements about why people turn to their faith and their values. He believes that it’s out of economic concerns, when we all know that it’s out of fundamental belief, fundamental faith in this country and its values and its principles. Again, Senator Obama is out of touch. I can’t control and will not in the future control. I will voice my opinion and I will continue to think and to say that I think that ad should not be run. But I won’t continue to try to be the referee here.

  254. Obama is an idiot! What’s this about Hill losing one of her biggest financial backers for Puerto Rico? Has anyone heard of this?

  255. confloyd that was out earlier in the week. Hill told the guy “go ahead, but he’s gonna loose”..

    Is this new info getting any play anywhere. This stuff is quite telling about him and he lied about his involvement with Ayers .. just friendly…just sat on a board. No, way

  256. Can some one tell me more about the million man march with ferakon and obama and has that got any air?

  257. man, the shit keeps coming out on HIM. Why can people not see and why is this getting swept under the rug. The man is dangerous!!! He is not worthy of sit in the oval office.

  258. wow, did you hear what McCain said about Obama?

    he’s “insensitive about poor people”

  259. Am happy to see Hillary using “HillaryClinton.Com” on the front of her podium now. Yes, lets get the folk still coming into the website.

    Well my real estate agent is gone, my counter offer is ready for my buyers and I’m absolutely worn out!

    Any good surrogates out in force for Hill today?

    What will happen after the primaries are over and Hillary takes this to the convention floor. What exactly will happen? Will she still be able to campaign and exactly what goes on?

  260. so you reckon she’ll be live from Charlotte or will she get any coverage today? Has bambi been skulking all weekend in Chicago or did he do any events? I heard he was taking another weekend off and when he does that we know he’s sweeping more shit under the rug.

    Will this Ayers get any coverage? If he was on Ayers payroll for 8 years .. THIS IS HUGE

  261. YIKES! I keep posting to the wrong thread! 😳
    I just sent another dozen letters to Indiana and NC.

    The text is simple and everyone can feel free to use, adapt, cut, copy for your own purposes.

    This past week Senator Clinton pulled off a spectacular 10 point victory in Pennsylvania, handing Senator Obama yet another humiliating defeat.

    Now it’s Indiana’s turn to vote. Indiana is filled with people much like those in Pennsylvania, a state which I’ve visited, vacationed in and frequently driven through. Pennsylvanians are hard-working, self-sufficient patriots, just like the people in Indiana, just like the people in upstate NY, where I live.

    Pennsylvanians saw through Senator Obama’s smoke and mirrors, despite being bombarded by round-the-clock negative TV ads, despite Senator Clinton having been outspent by at least 3 to 1. But the good honest people of Pennsylvania don’t want a rock star president. They want, need and deserve someone who will be accessible; who respects their life styles, their beliefs, their hard work and the person they overwhelmingly chose was Senator Clinton.

    I have never been involved in the political process much less contributed financially to a presidential campaign, but I have been so touched, moved and inspired by Senator Clinton’s fighting spirit I urge the residents and citizens of the great state of Indiana to join the voters of Pennsylvania and choose Senator Clinton as your nominee on May 6.

    Sincerely

  262. I can’t seem to post something I found on the net about the New black Panther party having a website for organizing the riots in Denver!!!

  263. I really think this website needs to get out to the people of the rest of the states yet to vote. I don’t think people white or black will take kindly to this sort of thing!!

  264. Insteresting article on all three candidates:

    timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Columnists/S_A_Aiyar_India_for_McCain/articleshow/2986947.cms

  265. ok, its there, pls look at this site! I sent it to Hannity and O’reilly. THe site even has schedules, I mean this is bad!!

  266. sorry its in charlotte at 4pm tommorrow guys. its not on the websiter again-i called them and they are fixing it. they are expecting 20-30000. cspan should cover that one. they want it to be hrc’s manchester for nc

  267. Wow, we should REMIND voters HOW BAD Obama did at the debate in Penn and this is why Obama said, NO MORE DEBATES BEFORE MAY 6 because he knows if he does poorly in the debate(s) before May 6 he is DOOMED, WE HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE OF NC AND IN NOW NOW NOW how HILLARY NEEDS TO WIN this may trigger Obama to LEAVE!

  268. texan4hillary, are you serious? 20-30,000 people? that’s so freakin awesome!

    We need to remind people of IN and NC that Obama does not want you to find out the real Obama as he wants NO MORE DEBATES but set himself to say NO MORE DEBATE before May 6th but has time to take off??? I thought he wants to use this time to meet the voters but how can he do that if he is in Illinois?

  269. I have no problem w/the million man march. It was about black men feeling some sense of empowerment. It wasn’t just Farakhan. I really don’t have a problem with that. It was a peaceful march.

  270. HillBillyLover .. good news. I sense the tide has been turning for our girl. She’s gotta get closer in North Carolina and I think she will. I think her campaign has got it’s feet under it now and they know how to effectively operate against the lying bid media. She is getting her groove.

  271. if you guys go look at the site i just posted, it has dates of the riots, it has a rioting manual, it has sites about the media. This has everything that is needed for rioting. They have been having meetings every week for quiet a while. This site is pretty scarey! Obama should denounce this kind of tactics. This site has been up since early 07′, so they been planning it for a long time!!

  272. mj, that’s how i feel about it, too. I don’t know why the million man march is an issue.

    Anyways, why can’t the little coward debate Hillary mano-a-mano? If he was whining about the moderators not talking about substantive issues, and we take away the moderators, then problem solved. What’s the hold-up? Yeah, I know the answer.

  273. justmeinmountdorafl, Did you look at the whole site, because it has everything in it. I am going to see it just for my vacation and of coarse it would be wonderful if I was able to become a national delegate for Hillary. This little fear tactics scares me, but will still go and stare them down. This is my country too and they are not going to hijack it!!

  274. filbertsf, Obama is a coward, afterall, he is just like all cowards they find someone to fight his battles for him. Its the NBPP or NOI, and he sits back and looks like peter pan!

  275. Oh lord, she’s talking gas prices…these people just copy everything Hill says. What a bunch of sorry losers.

  276. seriously if they think having a whole bunch of black people show up in Denver will help their candidate come fall .. should he be given the nod .. well, they will hurt their self more than help. Nothing will turn off America like having a bunch of raving black people rioting in the streets.

    Obama will lose tons of support should he continue to be associated with this group .. and he seems to be part of it.

    Disgusting.

    He’ll never be President. Ever.

  277. I doubt it will be black people. Dot. My guiess is it will be the daily kos lunatics, which is far worse.

  278. dot48, it is NOT primarily AA’s involved in that rioting site. It’s mostly young white boys, bank on it.

  279. This site even tells you where the delegates are staying, i mean what hotels they are staying at. They are saying that thousands will be protesting!

  280. I saw the majority of the site, pretty sad how they want to go about this and you can see clearly that it is in favor of Obama so its like give what we want or else

  281. HillaryforTexas, It’s not just black people its revolutionists like Ayers and the rest of his compadres(friends). They have been planning this for a long time. I think all his friends have a lot to do with this!! If you go to the site, go under logistics and you will find a wealth of info!

  282. MJ, your right, let them riot as long as Hillary wins!!! I’ll go with that. There not going to put fear in me!

  283. I hope the Denver police bust their heads. The intimidation factor by posting the hotel info and then saying they’ll post who is staying where. PUSSIES

  284. HillaryforTexas Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
    I’ve seen it confloyd. I’m not worried.

    Exactly. Doesn’t concern me at all.

  285. MO: “Obama is going to win the presidency the same way he won the Illinois senate — on the shoulders of regular people”

    Not if I have anything to say about it!

  286. these protestors wont get close to the conv site anyway. secret service will keep them far off in a designated protest zone like bush did in 2004.

  287. ” on the shoulders of the rich, elite and corrupt” .. that sounds more like the truth

    where are you watching this? Why are they covering that bytch?

  288. justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
    Hillbillylover, I saw all the articles for President Bill Clinton, looks great, in Oregon!

    The http://www.recreate68.org is terrible, it scares me.
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    Yep, the Marxist manifesto…using the Weathermen playbook.

  289. MO was doing an awful lot of sniffing…and everyone a gave a very lame “yes we can”. It was so unenthusiastic that she had to ask them to say it again. Her “white people” sitting behind her were so blase that they looked jurors.

  290. Chavez Says Government Lost Contact With Colombian Guerrillas

    By Daniel Cancel

    April 27 (Bloomberg) — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said his government has lost contact with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia after brokering the unilateral liberation of six Colombian hostages this year.

    “We lost the contact we had with the FARC,” Chavez said on state television during his weekly program. “We had elaborated a communications system but it was pulverized.”

    Chavez met with New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson last night to discuss the liberation of three American defense contractors in the hands of the FARC, as the guerrilla group is known. Richardson said Chavez showed a willingness to help achieve a humanitarian accord to free hostages.

    The Venezuelan president’s contacts with the Colombian rebels have heightened tensions between the neighboring countries, with Uribe accusing Chavez of providing financial support for FARC.
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    Richardson what a TOOL!

    I wonder how New Mexico look on him getting played by Chavez?

  291. carbynew Says:
    April 27th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
    Hillbillylover, I saw all the articles for President Bill Clinton, looks great, in Oregon!

    The http://www.recreate68.org is terrible, it scares me.
    ***************************************************
    Yep, the Marxist manifesto…using the Weathermen playbook.

    See also h t t p : / / ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=917 “Plan Jericho”.

    Bunch of latte jprofessionals with organic country homes?

  292. see I think Hill looks great and this normal looking woman will connect with people much better than some dressed up prissy looking bot

  293. enthusiastic crowd. “Action speaks louder than words .. don’t tell me SHOW ME! Yes, this stump speech is wonderful.

    Generating jobs like the 90’s .. YES REMIND THEM OF THE GOOD OLD DAYS !!! YES, we can do that again~ Rolls up HER sleeves ..

  294. It seem some fairy dust is coming off some Obamabots

    pbsmonitor.blogspot.com/2008/04/why-does-obama-criticize-jimmy-carter.html

    Would you please let this poor fool know, that Chicago politics is about the personality and not about issues.

    And really what has Obama promised other then Hope and Change?

  295. She has perked up since she first started, Dot and her vocal cords have warmed up. She is getting energy from the people as she goes. I think she looks nice, I just was a little worried when she was croaking a little. Seems to be fine now.

  296. this crowd is cold but they are interested in her speech and they are enthusiastic for her! when they stay in the cold .. you have won them over. Yes, she will.

  297. THIS is why I support her! She truely cares about people and finding solutions for their problems. She loves you America. Love her back.

  298. This story is GREAT. It shouldn’t take a Senator to get a man childcare that he paid for. I’m glad she is tying this all together with Universal Health Care.

  299. Re: The Million Man March.
    I don’t think it’s a good idea for Hillary supporters to make an issue of this. I remember when the MMM happened, and a lot of AAs from different religious backgrounds supported it, including groups which aren’t especially fond of Farrakhan. White opposition to the MMM was viewed as racist, and it will probably still be seen that way today. So bringing it up now will only inspire the Obamabots to chant the “Hillary supporters are racist” mantra once again.

    Re: Obama’s working for Ayers.
    Now, THIS is a big deal. It needs to get out there as quickly as possible, especially in Indiana and North Carolina.

  300. very beautiful background in Wilmington, NC (beach)

    very enthuasiastic crowd – YES WE WILL YES WE WILL

  301. very excited – livid – alive – cheering on – posters

    but I need someone to help me with telling me how she sounds and how’s the crowd taking her since can’t hear that part

  302. jade – cute Rev. Wrong – heard there might be protestors outside of this speech (Wrights)

  303. Here is a list of contact information for the as yet uncommitted super delegates in Pennsylvania. Please contact them and respectfully ask them to support Senator Clinton. Phone calls are always better and may have more impact than emails.

    Congressman Bob Brady – robert.a.brady@mail.house.gov – Phone: 202-225-4731 ~ Fax: 202-225-0088

    Congressman Jason Altmire – jason.altmire@mail.house.gov – Phone: (202)-225-2565 FAX: (202)226-2274

    Representative Chris Carney – congressman.carney@mail.house.gov – Phone:(202)225-3731 Fax: (202)225-9594

    Representative Tim Holden – tim.holden@mail.house.gov – Phone: 202-225-5546 – Fax: (202)226-0996

    Representative Mike Doyle – rep.doyle@mail.house.gov – Tel: (202)225-2135 ~ Fax: (202)225-3084

  304. OMG.. the closing is amazing. She lays it all out in simple English. No big fancy language, no big fancy promises. She just tells it like it is!!!

    Yes, she will rise! Rise, Hillary, Rise!!!

    Watching her gives me enthusiasm to get up and do even more.

    If you get down or get lazy .. watch her and she’ll inspire you. Yes, she will

  305. explain to me why Jeremiah Wright garners Breaking News Alert and full scale tv coverage and Hill can’t get a peep????

  306. FINALLY NEW POST 🙂 I ALWAYS GET EXCITED WHENEVER A NEW POST IS UP 🙂 SAME THING HAPPENS ON HILLARY’s SITE TOO

  307. My God, turn on CNN and watch Jerry Wright talking at the NAACP Detroit convention. He sounds mad. Simply mad, and the guy who introduced him was screaming at the top of his voice. LOL.

  308. everyone .. call those reps tomorrow…

    Lets remember to carry those names forward. There are no answers on the phones now

  309. I have had a great sunday watching and listening to the greatest most knowlegable woman of our time,Hillary Rodham Clinton.I have passed up sports,news and entertainment to enjoy what I consider a time in my 90yrs that will make a difference in the future of our country.I have seen the good,the bad and the ugly side of politics with its parade of,phonies,liars,greedy and morally challenged wardheelers.Time is short,Obama has to be vetted and open up the long list of problems,such as Rezko,Ayers,Wright,Real Estate deal and his involvement in Chicago Politics that make Al Capone look like a small time Pickpocket.Could there be another Elliot Ness available?

    By ABM90

  310. Someone tell me if this is a good idea for a fundraiser: I have to autographed copies of Living History from 2004. Does anyone here think they could fetch a good amount on Ebay that could be donated to the campaign? This would be a good way for maxed donors to give more to the campaign.

    Well?

  311. Wagner,
    Don’t worry about the screaming– Detroit is a loud city. And when I say Detroit, I am including most of the suburbs as well. Everybody around here can scream like Kid Rock if the occasion calls for it.

  312. Jen,

    I know what you are saying, but for most peops in swing states like MO, screaming is kind of disconcerting. That is what savvy politicians realize – the presidency is a national race, which is why the Repugs would love to go up against BO. His associations frighten suburb dwellers. From widely-loathed Teddy Kennedy to Carter to Ayers to Wright to Rezko to Mrs. BHO, not suburb-friendly folks to be hangin’ with. Coast to coast, the ‘burbs are “middle-America”.

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