Barack Obama Destroys The Democratic Party

Back in the days when Obama was pushing Hopium and hustling for change, the flim-flam routine included a riff on how he would “expand the map”. Part of the “expand the map” riff was that Obama would help elect down ballot Democrats running for Congress. No longer.

As we wrote in Barack Obama – Party Pooper Republicans are already mailing literature demanding Democratic House candidates “renounce or embrace” Obama’s bitter and clingy remarks.

We wrote:

Obama at the top of the ticket will force all Democrats to denounce Obama for Rezko, Wright, Bitterness. It will be wholesale slaughter at the ballot box in November in a year when Democrats expected to win.

We quoted Politico (which did not mention similar tactics by Republicans in a House race):

The piece underscores the extent of which Republicans, up and down the ticket, will seize on the comments should Obama get the nomination.

Disaster with Obama. Superdelegates Beware – Obama will destroy Democrats such as Brad Ellsworth in Indiana and Heath Schuler in North Carolina. Obama will destroy entire state Democratic delegations.

More evidence of the destruction Obama will wreak on the Democratic Party in November will appear starting next week. Democratic House candidates are now – in televised advertisments – under attack because of Barack Obama’s bitter words. Words have consequences Barack.

In hundreds of House elections as well as Senate and state and municipal elections Democratic candidates for elective office will soon be under attack, forced to denounce Obama’s bitter words. And Wright. And Ayres. And Rezko. And Auchi. And Dohrn. And Stroger.

More evidence of the destruction Obama will wreak on the Democratic Party in November will appear starting next week.

“Obama is weak” – on crime and terrorism – say the ads which will flood across America – therefore Democrats are weak. Hillary is tough. Republicans cannot argue Hillary is anything but tough.

More evidence of the destruction Obama will wreak on the Democratic Party in November will appear starting next week as Obama’s “Pastor” speaks again.

The controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright — Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor — is speaking Monday at the National Press Club as part of a divinity conference of black church leaders. Wright’s decision to headline an event at the Press Club — open to all media — risks giving Obama’s critics more fodder, as if they don’t have enough already.

Meanwhile, PBS is touting an interview with Wright to be broadcast Friday on “Bill Moyers’ Journal.” Fresh material from Wright — no matter how well-intended — is not what Obama needs. [snip]

Wright looms as a serious problem for Obama in his fight to be the Democratic presidential nominee over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and, if he wins, as a general election candidate against Sen. John McCain. Look no further than an ad the North Carolina Republican Party released Wednesday featuring a clip from Wright’s “God Damn America” sermon and calling Obama an “extremist.”

Fox News has been all over Wright — helicopter shots of his Tinley Park mansion under construction — and host Bill O’Reilly has been pounding Obama over Wright regularly on his show. [snip]

When the uproar over Wright started, Obama chief strategist David Axelrod asked his friends at Jasculca Terman — a public affairs firm — to advise Trinity on how to handle the crush of media coverage, and they did, pro bono.

Big Media bamboozled the public with silly reports that Obama’s entanglements with “Pastor” Wright were of no interest. Big Media tried to sell Obama’s race speech as an answer to why Obama sat for 20 years listening to Wright. Pennsylvania voters proved Big Media wrong.

In The Rise Of The Anti-Obama Voter we wrote:

Barack Obama injected race into the nomination process in order to tarnish Hillary Clinton, a longtime advocate for civil rights for all. When Barack Obama was caught lying about his “Pastor”, Obama instead of addressing questions about his own judgment in listening to “Pastor” Wright for 20 years, distracted and diverted the attention of Big Media supporters and once again injected the topic of race. White working class voters were not fooled and are now Anti-Obama.

Hillary has turned the Big Media/Obama demands to drop out to connect viscerally with voters in Pennsylvania – voters long derided by Big Media princes because they entertain themselves by bowling

Obama’s campaign big shot David Axelrod helped “Pastor” Wright’s chuch acquire free publicity management. Republicans will foist Axelrod on Wright, Wright on Wrong Obama. And Axelrod continues to insult the intelligence of working class voters as Bill Clinton sides with working class voters.

“Today her opponent’s campaign strategist said, ‘Well we don’t really need these working class people to win, half the time they vote for Republicans anyways.’ And I will tell you something, America needs you to win and therefore Hillary wants your support….”

Apparent response to earlier remark to NPR from David Axelrod: “The white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, going back even to the Clinton years.”

Barack Obama has had months of primaries to allay the fears of swing voters that he is a weak elitist condescending loser.

John Judis, echoing our earlier reports dubs Obama – The Next McGovern. [Note the wonderful George McGovern is not the issue. What is at issue is that Obama will have less electoral success than George McGovern did. McGovern only won Massachusetts and D.C. Obama might not even get Massachusetts in which he leads McCain by a paltry 2 percent.]

John Judis:

Indeed, if you look at Obama’s vote in Pennsylvania, you begin to see the outlines of the old George McGovern coalition that haunted the Democrats during the ’70s and ’80s, led by college students and minorities. In Pennsylvania, Obama did best in college towns (60 to 40 percent in Penn State’s Centre County) and in heavily black areas like Philadelphia.

Its ideology is very liberal. Whereas in the first primaries and caucuses, Obama benefited from being seen as middle-of-the-road or even conservative, he is now receiving his strongest support from voters who see themselves as “very liberal.” In Pennsylvania, he defeated Clinton among “very liberal” voters by 55 to 45 percent, but lost “somewhat conservative” voters by 53 to 47 percent and moderates by 60 to 40 percent. In Wisconsin and Virginia, by contrast, he had done best against Clinton among voters who saw themselves as moderate or somewhat conservative.

Obama even seems to be acquiring the religious profile of the old McGovern coalition. In the early primaries and caucuses, Obama did very well among the observant. In Maryland, he defeated Clinton among those who attended religious services weekly by 61 to 31 percent. By contrast, in Pennsylvania, he lost to Clinton among these voters by 58 to 42 percent and did best among voters who never attend religious services, winning them by 56 to 44 percent. There is nothing wrong with winning over voters who are very liberal and who never attend religious services; but if they begin to become Obama’s most fervent base of support, he will have trouble (to say the least) in November.

The primaries, unfortunately, are not going to get any easier for Obama.

Obama supporters will face electoral defeat and disaster. They do not care. They will being their electoral defeat and disaster to Democrats nationwide.

Hillary Clinton was endorsed by Representative John Tanner. Tanner is a Blue-Dog Democrat. Tanner will not face electoral disaster. Tanner supports Hillary.

The Hillary campaign can repeat to Democrats nationwide the tag line from the movie The Terminator: “Come with me if you want to live.”

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621 thoughts on “Barack Obama Destroys The Democratic Party

  1. first 😀

    sometimes i think rev wright’s nose is out of wack from obama asking him to not open his campaign and has systematically been trying to ruin obama 😀

    i would bet money rev wright will bestow yet another gift when he speaks on monday 😀

  2. from the prior thread:

    OK guys, lets mobilize a protest demonstration against the Rev. Anyone in the DC area who can attend should try and do so. The event is sold out but there’s nothing keeping us from protesting outside, signs and all. Lets make an event of it that the media cant ignore. They like to pretend like he dealt with this issue by lecturing us typical white folks about race but we wont let him off that easy. Perhaps we can extend an invitation to the RNC in North Carolina??

    National press club:
    529 14th Street NW
    Washington, DC 20045
    Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright
    NPC Breakfast
    Apr. 28, 8:30 AM
    Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago,
    THIS EVENT IS SOLD OUT.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/913018,CST-NWS-sweet24.article

  3. djia Says:

    April 24th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
    new gallop poll o 49% C 44%

    How is he possibly still leading her? She’s won more votes. I am starting to think they are undersampling women.

  4. Love it “come with me if you want to live” .. sd’s are in place right now, they aren’t flooding over to the flimflam man. A clear victory for Hill in Indiana and keeping the working class in NC and she’ll be the one raking in the sd’s. Ky, Wv are working class folk as well.

  5. lanny davis deserves a big spot light today here at hillaryis44 😀

    here are lanny’s 10 top reasons obama is week in the GE

    1. Hillary Clinton won by 10%, 220,000 votes, despite after most of the polls in the last several weeks on RealClearPolitics, including its RCP all-poll average, showed her ahead by single digits and dropping. The exit polls showed her winning by +5. (It’s easy to forget that she won if you listen to the Obama spinners last night and today. Believe it or not, Pennsylvania’s Rep. Murphy, a freshman congressman who supported Barack Obama, actually said last night on Larry King that Senator Obama did so well in losing to Senator Clinton yesterday that he has a “wind at his back.” I am not kidding.

    2. Senator Obama tried hard to win the state, campaigned intensely throughout the state for most of the last six weeks — and was trying to win, not just lose a narrow margin.

    3. He spent $11 million on media — about three times more than Senator Clinton.

    4. Most of his ads were personal negative attack ads against Senator Clinton, meaning attacks on her character and integrity.

    5. There were no personal attack ads run by Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania.

    6. Barack Obama hasn’t won a single major industrial state that historically constitute the key “battleground” states for both parties, i.e., the states in the last three or four presidential elections have switched back and forth between the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates.

    7. The reason that he lost can be found in the demographic data: He lost — and Senator Clinton won — by substantial margins blue collar and middle class white voters earning under $50,000 a year, senior citizens, rural voters, Hispanic voters, and women voters — all core constituencies in the Democratic base that must be won if a Democrat is to win the White House. For example, yesterday in Pennsylvania she won Roman Catholics by 32 percent (66034), union households by 18 percent (59-41), and those most concerned about the economy by 16 points (58-42). Only 60 percent of Democratic Catholic voters said they would vote for Mr. Obama in a general election.

    8. Barack Obama has lost these same demographic groups in Massachusetts, Ohio, Texas, California and New Jersey and other major states that Senator Clinton won. There is a factual pattern of his weakness among these demographic groups in virtually every primary state that cannot be disputed.

    9. Barack Obama is currently in a dead heat with John McCain, according to a recent respected poll, in Massachusetts (actually, the results were McCain 46% and Clinton 44%), while Senator Clinton leads in Massachusetts by 15%. The last time a Democrat did not win Massachusetts by a substantial margin was 1980, when Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter. Even in the historic landslide election of Richard Nixon in 1972, when he won 49 states, only Massachusetts supported Senator McGovern. Senator Obama currently runs considerably behind Senator McCain in Florida and Ohio, while Senator Clinton is ahead in both of those key battleground states.

    10. Current polls show Senator Clinton runs ahead of John McCain nationally or dead even — and Senator Obama runs only dead even. For example, in the most recent USA Today national general election poll, Senator Clinton leads Senator McCain by +6; Senator Obama leads by less than the margin of error, +2.

    Those are the facts. To all Super Delegates: you decide who is riskier as a general election candidate. The candidate whose negatives, driven by the right-wing hate machine in the 1990s in particular, are all out there and already taken into account. Or a candidate who is still virtually unknown to most of the electorate, with Republicans clearly looking forward to filling in the blanks with the facts about his record of which many general election voters still are not aware.

  6. Obama always “overpolls” .. they are sampling more AA and elites. Simple. Hillary has won Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, and now PA .. 4 of the last 5. She has won all the big states with the coalition that will keep the down ticket alive in November and bring victory for the party.

    Hillary has put a big flashing question mark above Obama’s head right now.

    You notice he always runs away after a defeat. Back to Chicago to lick his wounds and get stroked. What kind of a leader does that indicate? One that folds like a cheap lawn chair.

  7. Mj…..he has been ahead of her

    but is loosing ground ……this is a good thing…….he will continue to lose, the gap will narrow up more and hillary will take the lead once again!!

    then watch the SD run!!

  8. Whats up with Rassmussen, they have been posting pro clinton commentaries all day.

    Has Obama stopped paying them hush money?

    Osama Crashes the Democratic Party

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_froma_harrop/osama_crashes_the_democratic_party

    The day after Pennsylvania, The New York Times ran a nutty editorial, “The Low Road to Victory,” that bashed Clinton for waving “the bloody shirt of 9-11.” Oh, is referring to the event that obliterated the World Trade Center — still a blank in Lower Manhattan — an irrational demagogic appeal to old grievances? (One suspects that the Times regrets its endorsement of Clinton in the New York primary, especially since she became unfashionable in fancy circles.)

    An enduring fear of terrorism may help explain a remarkable SurveyUSA poll that shows Obama virtually tied with McCain in Massachusetts. In super-liberal Massachusetts! The same poll has Clinton leading McCain in that state by a comfortable 55 percent to 42 percent.

    Rest assured that the Bay State remains as socially progressive as it ever was. And Obama is right in line with the prevailing sentiment there that the war in Iraq was a dreadful mistake. But his seeming head-in-the-hole stance toward the widely viewed threat from terrorism unsettles many.

    The hysterical response to the Clinton ad by some Obama backers doesn’t help dispel these concerns. Most unappetizing were the accusations that Clinton had tried to slime Obama the way a Republican ad applied the hatchet to Georgia Democrat Max Cleland in 2002. According to left-wing lore, the Republican ad cruelly linked the senator’s picture to bin Laden’s, costing Cleland — a patriot who had lost three limbs fighting in Vietnam — his re-election. What the ad did was remind Georgia voters that Cleland had repeatedly voted against bills to create the Department of Homeland Security.

  9. Admin – great article! – never thought I’d see a piece where McGovern and the Terminator are both relevant… “come with me if you want to live.” HA.

  10. I’m sure there will be LOTS of protestors at Rev. Wright’s speech tomorrow. The more the guy talks, the worse he makes this issue. And he’s not even apologizing! What an idiot. Obama keeps wading deeper and deeper into this scandal, and making it worse, and thereby harms the party and all those down-ticket Dems. The Obama campaign’s inability to control this scandal, and their worsening of it, proves that they’re not even REMOTELY ready to take on the “big boys”/Republicans this fall.

  11. Scott Rasmussen is probably realizing how much taxes he’ll be paying under Obama – decided to switch his allegiance. Money talks.

  12. ADMIN,

    HERES WHAT JOHN LENNON HAS TO SAY:

    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people, right on

    Say you want a revolution
    We better get on right away
    Well you get on your feet
    And out on the street

    Singing power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people, right on

    A million workers working for nothing
    You better give em what they really own
    We got to put you down
    When we come into town

    Singing power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people, right on

    I gotta ask you comrades and brothers
    How do you treat you own woman back home
    She got to be herself
    So she can free herself

    Singing power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people, right on
    Now, now, now, now

    Oh well, power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people, right on

    Yeah, power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people, right on

    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people
    Power to the people, right on

    “POWER TO THE PEOPLE – John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band”

  13. today is the first day I have seen Rassmussen post anything remotely pro clinton let alone 3 anti obama’s in 1 day.

  14. from a TM poster

    Check this out:
    adage.com/campaigntrail/post?article_id=126603

    New York Times Whines About Clinton Advertising
    Still Wears Short Pants, Believes in Santa

    Posted by Ken Wheaton on 04.23.08 @ 11:02 AM

    I don’t know why a New York Times editorial carries any more weight than the opinion of any pajama-wearing blogger, but we can all pretend, can’t we? Still it’s hard to take the editorial board seriously when it tries to take back its Hillary Clinton endorsement because she’s been fighting dirty.

    The most obvious question is, “Who the hell did you think you were endorsing in the first place?” The only big mystery of this election cycle is why the Clinton team waited so long to play hardball with Barack Obama. (Perhaps they thought they’d have the media on their side. But judging by the collective hissy fit held by the media after Charlie Gibson went rogue last week, the media picked its horse long ago.) And wailing about the handful of ads Clinton’s run is defining dirty down.

    At any rate, the Clintons have long been known for indulging in brass-knuckle politics. If the Times editorial board is going to claim with a straight face that it expected otherwise, perhaps it should hand over the space to someone who doesn’t believe in Santa Claus. In fact, that bruising approach to politics is why some people are drawn to Hillary Clinton. They want someone who’s not going to sit there and take lip from Republicans. To fall back on outdated slang: “She’s a tough broad.” And I’d bet that some of these recent attack ads reminded people of that. Especially those blue-collar Democrats who might be gun-clinging bitter religous nuts!

    The editorial board of the Times should be ashamed of itself for it’s naive finger-wagging about negative advertising. I expect that sort of scolding foolishness from casual political observers or academics, but journalists? Come. On.

    “By staying on the attack and not engaging Mr. Obama on the substance of issues like terrorism, the economy and how to organize an orderly exit from Iraq, Mrs. Clinton does more than just turn off voters who don’t like negative campaigning.” Oh really? Firstly, I didn’t exactly notice Barack Obama tackling the substance of issues in his ads: unless repeating the word “change,” calling your opponent divisive and swearing you don’t take money from lobbyists can be counted as substance. Hillary might have turned off “voters who don’t like negative campaigning.” But let me point out the obvious: Pennsylvania saw record turnout and Hillary Clinton won by 10 points. The Times even goes so far as to take issue with Hillary Clinton saying she’d “obliterate” Iran if it attacked Israel. God forbid she talk tough about enemies! And perhaps the Times should take a look at how the Jewish vote went in Pennsylvania last night.

    The Times wants more “nuanced” debate. The Times wants to believe negative advertising doesn’t work. Well, I want a ride on a unicorn. Negative advertising does work. It works well. And I’m not sure what alternate reality the Times is living in when they speak of “nuanced” debate. There have been just shy of five gajillion debates and, save for the ABC one, I’ve learned nothing from any of these candidates (on either side) that I couldn’t have gotten from their websites……
    Change Agent | 04.24.2008 – 1:16 pm | #

  15. Carville was brilliant last night, demanding that Obama agree to more debates. “What do the American people get out of having all of us crazy surrogates here on TV, talking endlessly about what the candidates may or may not have meant?” he asked. “Let’s get Hillary and Barack out here, bring ’em back on camera, and let’s have an honest and open debate about how we as Democrats are going to lead this country.”

    When Richardson whined that there have already been so many debates, Carville shot back, “it’s not like we’re not watching these debates! I’m sure CNN would LOVE another debate! MILLIONS of Americans tune in to these things! This is democracy in action!”

    (I’m paraphrasing on the quotes, but you get the gist…)

  16. Superdelegates may be starting to see what a ball and chain Obama represents to the Party AND to their own survival in THEIR re-elections/standings within the Democratic Party. Besides BHO aleianating the nucleus of the country – the white working-class – his surrogates have resorted to physical and verbal assaults on HRC surrogates. Something the SD could do RIGHT NOW is to get behind HRC and stop the dialogue that they supported her at the end, thus “stealing” the election from BHO. Right now, the narrative is the SD are “saving the party” (and their own necks – “come with me if you want to live,”), and can avoid being labeled racists and “hijackers of the noination” of the first AA candidate. Personally, I wonder if BHO is in Chicago making a last minute appeal to Wright to forego his booking at NPC, and trying to get the BM interview not to air. This could be just what the SD need in walking away from BHO. The SD have to realize, especially with any lawyer input, that the way Dean et at at the DNC has manipulated FL & MI to benefit BHO will spell disaster to the Dems come November. Again, the powers that be need to GET OVER their own history with the Clintons, and stop making decisions based on their own selfish interests. It is high time that people elected to be LEADERS , do just that. LEAD. Let Brazile and Sharpton threaten and leave and march – whatever. The time for the country to stop being held hostage to these charges of racism is NOW. Again, like Admin so wonderfully laid out – “come with me if you want to live.”

  17. MSNBC says it all

    This is the % of white working class voters won in each state, notice Obama wins it 4 times and look just where, lol.

    Obama had an advantage among whites who make less than $50,000 in Wisconsin, Illinois, Utah and Vermont.

    But in every single state he won big, he lost white voters worse. Just look.

    CLINTON OBAMA
    VT 36 61
    IL 46 51
    WI 48 50
    UT 38 49
    NM 49 47
    CT 52 41
    TX 58 41
    MD 57 40
    CA 50 39
    NY 61 37
    AZ 56 35
    MO 60 35
    VA 61 35
    GA 62 35
    MA 63 34
    PA 66 33
    RI 67 31
    NH 47 31
    DE 68 30
    OH 69 28
    LA 60 27
    NJ 73 25
    MS 68 24
    AL 74 23
    TN 69 22
    SC 40 19
    OK 72 19

  18. The SD are going to realize that Obama is not gaining the trust of the “core” Democrates, and if you don’t have them, then you don’t have the White House!!

    The Clinton Machine has/is working MI in their favor. (Obama made a BIG mistake).

    Finally, this is going to come down to political experience, and we know who has that!!

  19. IMO… The AA community needs to stop back and realize they are not the most important minority demographic in the party, they are important, but they are taking a back seat to Latinos

  20. The AA community will always be a key demographic for Dems, and that’s wonderful. But the fastest growing minority is Latinos. Latinos are going to start swinging elections BIGTIME in this country over the next 20 years.

    Democrats are stone cold stupid if they don’t realize that, and nominate someone who can lock up that vote.

  21. JAS, just read that, there is no way this can win a GE. The doubts are so huge on him, McCain will wipe him out.

  22. I mean we have gasoline inching toward $6 gallon – as it is overseas – food rationing and spiraling upward costs, two wars, a recession, and N Korea negotiating nuclear arms to Libya (Rezko’s native country). I mean, we are in all-out, all-hands-on-deck need of tremendous proven leadership at this extremely crucial point in our nation’s history. What part of two presidents (HRC and BC) don’t people realize that it absolutely imperative that we must have? The delegates BHO “won” in bogus caucuses – very overrated delegate counts in smaller states – may not have ever been awarded to him if Wright and Ayers (and his own elitist remarks) had been made available by the Big Media conspiracy. I swear people act steer-kicked (Texas slang). Superdelegates are indeed committing party suicide. It’s enough to make you sick.

  23. rushbo just now………he wants to be left alone to eat his waffle…….did you know it was not even an american waffle!
    it was a BELGIAN waffle LOL

  24. Hay are you all seeing more Hillary advertisments on different web sites…. just saw one on FOX News!!!

  25. JAS

    I was wondering the other day if i was seeing a lot less of Obama’s ads on many websites……sure seems like it

  26. i have an idea, there is a blog post by marie wilson on huffpo today
    titled “help us write the gender speech”

    of course the commentors are obamabots……so you can imagine what they had to say……totally junk posts

    but it did how ever give me the idea that perhaps this list could take this project on!!
    let’s discuss gender in equalities and possibly end up being able to write hillary the best gender speech she could possibly give

  27. Joe Klein

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1734643,00.html

    Obama, who entered the primary as a fresh breeze and left it stale, battered and embittered — still the mathematical favorite for the nomination but no longer the darling of his party. In the course of six weeks, the American people learned that he was a member of a church whose pastor gave angry, anti-American sermons, that he was “friendly” with an American terrorist who had bombed buildings during the Vietnam era, and that he seemed to look on the ceremonies of working-class life — bowling, hunting, churchgoing and the fervent consumption of greasy food — as his anthropologist mother might have, with a mixture of cool detachment and utter bemusement. All of which deepened the skepticism that Caucasians, especially those without a college degree, had about a young, inexperienced African-American guy with an Islamic-sounding name and a highfalutin fluency with language. And worse, it raised questions among the elders of the party about Obama’s ability to hold on to crucial Rust Belt bastions like Pennsylvania, Michigan and New Jersey in the general election — and to add long-suffering Ohio to the Democratic column.

  28. Okay…. what is the final number for PA. I just saw Ben Smith on the Politico, and it said that Hillary did not get a double diget win. (Not that it matters now, she got the 24 hr. news cycle)

  29. Painful as it is to ever admit that Karl Rove could ever be right about anything, here’s a good one:

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Is Obama Ready for Prime Time?
    By KARL ROVE
    April 24, 2008; Page A13

    After being pummeled 55% to 45% in the Pennsylvania primary, Barack Obama was at a loss for explanations. The best he could do was to compliment his supporters in an email saying, “you helped close the gap to a slimmer margin than most thought possible.” Then he asked for money.

    With $42 million in the bank, money is the least of Sen. Obama’s problems. He needs a credible message that convinces Democrats he should be president. In recent days, he’s spent too much time proclaiming his inevitable nomination. But they already know he’s won more states, votes and delegates.

    His words wear especially thin when he was dealt a defeat like Tuesday’s. Mr. Obama was routed despite outspending Hillary Clinton on television by almost 3-1. While polls in the final days showed a possible 4% or 5% Clinton win, she apparently took late-deciders by a big margin to clinch the landslide.

    Where she cobbled together her victory should cause concern in the Obama HQ. She did better – and he worse – than expected in Philadelphia’s suburbs. Mrs. Clinton won two of these four affluent suburban counties, home of the white-wine crowd Mr. Obama has depended on for victories before.

    In the small town and rural “bitter” precincts, she clobbered him. Mr. Obama’s state chair was Sen. Bob Casey, who hails from Lackawanna County in northeast Pennsylvania. She carried that county 74%-25%. In the state’s 61 less-populous counties, she won 63% – and by 278,266 votes. Her margin of victory statewide was 208,024 votes.

    Mrs. Clinton’s problem remains that she’s behind in the delegate count, with 1,589 to Mr. Obama’s 1,714. Neither candidate will get to the 2,025 needed for nomination with elected delegates. But the Democratic Party’s rules of proportionality mean it will be hard to close that margin among the 733 delegates yet to be elected or declared. Mrs. Clinton will need to take 58% of the remaining delegates. Thus far, she’s been able to get that or better in just four of the 46 contests.

    Her path gets rougher. While Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia and Puerto Rico are good territory for her, Oregon and Montana may not be. And Mrs. Clinton will be outspent badly. She entered April with $9.3 million in cash, but debts of $10.3 million. Mr. Obama had $42.5 million but only $663,000 in unpaid bills.

    In Pennsylvania, Mr. Obama’s money could only wipe out half a purported 20% deficit, but the Real Clear Politics average of recent polls shows Mr. Obama behind by 2% in Indiana and ahead in North Carolina by 16%. Those states will vote in two weeks. The financial throw weight he will have in the Hoosier State could more than erase Mrs. Clinton’s lead there, while keeping North Carolina solidly in his column. His money could give him a double knockout on May 6, which would effectively end her bid for the presidency.

    If she wins Indiana, however, she will surely go forward – and Democrats run the risk of a split decision in June. Mr. Obama could have more delegates, but she could have more popular votes. In fact, on Tuesday night she actually grabbed the popular vote lead: If you include the Michigan and Florida primary results, Mrs. Clinton now leads the popular vote by a slim 113,000 votes out of 29,914,356 cast.

    Mr. Obama will argue he wasn’t on the ballot in Michigan and didn’t campaign in Florida. But don’t Democrats want to count all the votes in all the contests? After all, Mr. Obama took his name off the Michigan ballot; it isn’t something he was forced to do. And while he didn’t campaign in Florida, neither did she.

    And what about the Michigan and Florida delegates? By my calculations, she should pick up about 54 delegates on Mr. Obama if they are seated (this assumes the Michigan “uncommitted” delegates go for Mr. Obama). If he is ahead in June by a number similar to his lead today of 125, does he let the two delegations in and make the convention vote even closer? Or does he continue to act as if two states with 41 of the 270 electoral votes needed for the White House don’t exist?

    The Democratic Party has two weakened candidates. Mrs. Clinton started as a deeply flawed candidate: the palpable and unpleasant sense of entitlement, the absence of a clear and optimistic message, the grating personality impatient to be done with the little people and overly eager for a return to power, real power, the phoniness and the exaggerations. These problems have not diminished over the long months of the contest. They have grown. She started out with the highest negatives of any major candidate in an open race for the presidency and things have only gotten worse.

    And what of the reborn Adlai Stevenson? Mr. Obama is befuddled and angry about the national reaction to what are clearly accepted, even commonplace truths in San Francisco and Hyde Park. How could anyone take offense at the observation that people in small-town and rural American are “bitter” and therefore “cling” to their guns and their faith, as well as their xenophobia? Why would anyone raise questions about a public figure who, for only 20 years, attended a church and developed a close personal relationship with its preacher who says AIDS was created by our government as a genocidal tool to be used against people of color, who declared America’s chickens came home to roost on 9/11, and wants God to damn America? Mr. Obama has a weakness among blue-collar working class voters for a reason.

    His inspiring rhetoric is a potent tool for energizing college students and previously uninvolved African-American voters. But his appeals are based on two aspirational pledges he is increasingly less credible in making.

    Mr. Obama’s call for postpartisanship looks unconvincing, when he is unable to point to a single important instance in his Senate career when he demonstrated bipartisanship. And his repeated calls to remember Dr. Martin Luther King’s “fierce urgency of now” in tackling big issues falls flat as voters discover that he has not provided leadership on any major legislative battle.

    Mr. Obama has not been a leader on big causes in Congress. He has been manifestly unwilling to expend his political capital on urgent issues. He has been only an observer, watching the action from a distance, thinking wry and sardonic and cynical thoughts to himself about his colleagues, mildly amused at their to-ing and fro-ing. He has held his energy and talent in reserve for the more important task of advancing his own political career, which means running for president.

    But something happened along the way. Voters saw in the Philadelphia debate the responses of a vitamin-deficient Stevenson act-a-like. And in the closing days of the Pennsylvania primary, they saw him alternate between whining about his treatment by Mrs. Clinton and the press, and attacking Sen. John McCain by exaggerating and twisting his words. No one likes a whiner, and his old-style attacks undermine his appeals for postpartisanship.

    Mr. Obama is near victory in the Democratic contest, but it is time for him to reset, freshen his message and say something new. His conduct in the last several weeks raises questions about whether, for all his talents, he is ready to be president.

  30. Jas, firstly, they are trying to knock her down from 10 to 9.2 by not rounding it, like they do in any race but if they do that, lets throw the argument that she actually won Ohio by 10.6% not 10, if you dont round it.

    however absentees are’nt even added in yet. They are trying anyway they can to demean her win.

  31. online.wsj.com/article/SB120899654405739949.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

    is the link to the Rove op-ed

  32. Is Rush still pushing Republicans to vote for Hillary to keep the race goin on all the way to the convention? Hillary needs Rep. crossovers in NC. Those ads in NC are not aimed at the average Democrat, they are aimed at Rep and Reagan democrats and if they vote for Hillary coupled with a very large turnout in NC, Hillary can make it very close.

  33. Was Pennsylvania a Pyrrhic Victory for Clinton?
    By Madison Powers, CQ Guest Columnist

    Ummmm, NO!

    But the victory is tainted in many ways. Her team left Pennsylvania broke, bitter, and diminished in national stature.

    Yes, who could forget all those sad faces at the Bellvue Hotel Tuesday in Philly.

    To read the whole bogus load of crap by this idiot, go to

    http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002710031

  34. I gotta be done for a couple of weeks folks…am at $004.17 in acct.

    But for the 9.4 PA win:

    ===============================
    YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:

    DATE: April 24, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
    NAME: AMOUNT: $9.44

    ————————————————————-

  35. I am 100% confident Rev Wright is coming out with BO’s support to rehabilitate his image and explain what he really meant. Big media will do all they can to put all his positive spin on the TV. It’s a risky tactic, but BO probably would rather deal with it now and again try to put it to rest.
    As for Hillary trailing BO, it’s very simple, we live in a country were , sadly, many are still not ready for a strong woman leader.

  36. # rjk1957 Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Is Rush still pushing Republicans to vote for Hillary to keep the race goin on all the way to the convention? Hillary needs Rep. crossovers in NC. Those ads in NC are not aimed at the average Democrat, they are aimed at Rep and Reagan democrats and if they vote for Hillary coupled with a very large turnout in NC, Hillary can make it very close.
    *******

    Yes, last I heard, operation chaos still going, but he did say this about NC – that if Republicans vote, don’t do so early – their votes might not count – do it on the day of the primary.

    ********

    The most obvious question is, “Who the hell did you think you were endorsing in the first place?” The only big mystery of this election cycle is why the Clinton team waited so long to play hardball with Barack Obama. (Perhaps they thought they’d have the media on their side. But judging by the collective hissy fit held by the media after Charlie Gibson went rogue last week, the media picked its horse long ago.) And wailing about the handful of ads Clinton’s run is defining dirty down.

    At any rate, the Clintons have long been known for indulging in brass-knuckle politics. If the Times editorial board is going to claim with a straight face that it expected otherwise, perhaps it should hand over the space to someone who doesn’t believe in Santa Claus. In fact, that bruising approach to politics is why some people are drawn to Hillary Clinton. They want someone who’s not going to sit there and take lip from Republicans. To fall back on outdated slang: “She’s a tough broad.” And I’d bet that some of these recent attack ads reminded people of that. Especially those blue-collar Democrats who might be gun-clinging bitter religous nuts!

    The editorial board of the Times should be ashamed of itself for it’s naive finger-wagging about negative advertising. I expect that sort of scolding foolishness from casual political observers or academics, but journalists? Come. On.

    “By staying on the attack and not engaging Mr. Obama on the substance of issues like terrorism, the economy and how to organize an orderly exit from Iraq, Mrs. Clinton does more than just turn off voters who don’t like negative campaigning.” Oh really? Firstly, I didn’t exactly notice Barack Obama tackling the substance of issues in his ads: unless repeating the word “change,” calling your opponent divisive and swearing you don’t take money from lobbyists can be counted as substance. Hillary might have turned off “voters who don’t like negative campaigning.” But let me point out the obvious: Pennsylvania saw record turnout and Hillary Clinton won by 10 points. The Times even goes so far as to take issue with Hillary Clinton saying she’d “obliterate” Iran if it attacked Israel. God forbid she talk tough about enemies! And perhaps the Times should take a look at how the Jewish vote went in Pennsylvania last night.

    The Times wants more “nuanced” debate. The Times wants to believe negative advertising doesn’t work. Well, I want a ride on a unicorn. Negative advertising does work. It works well. And I’m not sure what alternate reality the Times is living in when they speak of “nuanced” debate. There have been just shy of five gajillion debates and, save for the ABC one, I’ve learned nothing from any of these candidates (on either side) that I couldn’t have gotten from their websites……
    Change Agent | 04.24.2008 – 1:16 pm | #

  37. FishbowlDC has learned that Sen. Barack Obama will finally appear on Fox News Sunday this weekend.
    A pre-taped interview is slated to take place Saturday in Marion, Indiana.

    You’ll recall that Wallace started the “Obama Watch” in March (and even put notice of it on his office door) and dated it back to May 2006, when Wallace said Obama agreed to a face-to-face interview on Fox News Sunday.

    Obama has largely avoided Fox throughout the campaign, although things changed on January 9 when he did do an interview with the cable news network.

    We have to wonder: With Obama now doing Fox News Sunday, will he make good on his pledge to Bill O’Reilly to appear on “The O’Reilly Factor”?

  38. Good pernt, moon… BO’s attempts to explain and re-explain the SF bitter comments only made it worse.

    When you are in shark infested waters, don’t thrash around. It only makes them hungrier.

  39. Oh yeah..

    add in moveon.org endorsemennt for BO…and how he will work with Moveon’s “Generl betrayus” as head of central command!

  40. From Detroit news;

    Michigan is becoming Clinton’s secret weapon

    Susan J. Demas
    If you punched your ballot for “uncommitted” in Michigan’s Jan. 15 Democratic presidential primary to back Barack Obama, your vote might have essentially gone to Hillary Clinton anyway.
    While all eyes were locked on Pennsylvania for the last six weeks, Clinton was quietly amassing delegates in the Wolverine State. And she was rewarded this past weekend with a significant victory at the district conventions.

    This development naturally has been overshadowed by her big win Tuesday night in Pennsylvania. But the race for the Democratic nomination wasn’t decided then and won’t be by the remaining contests — not North Carolina, Indiana or even Guam — because the real fight is over delegates. And Michigan remains a key battleground.

    On Aug. 25, Clinton will march into the national convention in Denver stronger than most people realize, thanks to her aggressive ground game in Michigan.

    Buoyed by party elder support, Clinton seems likely to capture more than 60 percent of the state’s 128 pledged delegates, according to an analysis by the Michigan Information & Research Service. Including the 28 superdelegates, which lean heavily in the New York senator’s favor, she could win upward of 70 percent of delegates, provided that they’re seated with full voting power.

    That depends on the Democratic National Committee, which punished Michigan for leapfrogging the primary schedule. There is no deal yet to seat the delegation. But the Clinton camp is working overtime to ensure the elected slate is sent. Keep in mind that Clinton won 55 percent to uncommitted’s 40 percent since Obama wasn’t on the ballot. He has pushed for a 50-50 percent delegate split, but that proposal hasn’t gained traction.

    It’s becoming apparent that Obama should have consented to a revote here. He certainly wouldn’t have lost by 15 percentage points or more; polls have pegged the pair in a dead heat. But Obama seemed spooked that Clintonites put forth the plan and the money, so he quashed the do-over last month.

    Now Obama is paying the price in delegates, starting with the Michigan Democratic Party’s 15 district conventions on Saturday. The Clinton battle plan was flawlessly executed with an eye toward a contested convention. Their delegate roster is crammed with big names like former Gov. Jim Blanchard and Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero.

    “We wanted to pick people who would be loyal to Hillary, who would commit to her through multiple ballots,” Blanchard says.

    Michiganders for Obama, a ragtag group of new volunteers, triumphed in turnout Saturday but were steamrolled by the Clinton machine. Obama has proved to be a master of organization, but he made a tactical error not to plump up his skeletal apparatus in Michigan.

    As a result, he will almost certainly fall short of the 36 uncommitted delegates selected. Volunteers argued that only Obama supporters should be uncommitted delegates, but they were outmaneuvered. About half of the uncommitted delegates reserved the right to vote for Clinton, depending on whom their unions eventually endorse.

    While union officials flatly deny they’re in the tank for Clinton, Obama supporters point out that United Auto Workers Legislative Coordinator Nadine Nosal was elected in the 8th District as an alternate Clinton delegate. That underscores the fact that Obama’s speech to the Detroit Economic Club last year, calling for higher federal fuel economy standards, went over with labor leaders like a lead balloon.

    In May, the party’s labor-heavy, Clinton-friendly central committee chooses the remaining 45 delegates, setting up a scenario of more uncommitted delegates switching to Clinton.

    Given her narrow path to the nomination, Clinton and her aides have argued that pledged delegates are fair game to flip. Although they’ve since backed away from such statements, the Michigan delegate conventions show the Clinton delegate strategy is being set into motion. What this could mean is four very interesting days in Denver. Although the odds still favor Obama — who leads in delegates, the popular vote and states won — he has to be a bit rattled over two losses in one week.

    If Clinton comes out on top in a floor war, we might well look back at the Michigan mêlée as the turning point.

  41. im tired of every daywatching superds go to bambi. i thought pa would us there. cong wu of rore has given support to him. what si wrong here? is it hillary superd team? this is insane.

  42. If Obama is the nominee, he will be lucky to win 10 states. It will be a Dukakis-level drubbing. Way to go, Howard Dean!

  43. I think Clinton’s team most likely has some more surprises for Bwak!!!!

    The Clintons always work better with their back up against the wall and we are seeing her campaign figure out a way around all the obstacles the big media and party are throwing out against them. Don’t count the Clinton machine out.

    I’m sure that she’s gonna be good now financial wise, fundraisers now scheduled, new donors, and I’m sure her big donors are rallying again since they see that she is able to raise 10 mil overnight.

  44. So basically Hillary has control of the Michigan delegation and she’ll have control of the Florida delegation and she is taking this right to the convention. No wonder Bambi is shitting himself.

  45. t4h .. I’m sure that some superdelegates are gonna be comeing over to Hills side very soon, the press is also turning a bit and these sd’s are thinking. The ones who are going to obama this week are those who were already promised and they always hold out a couple to shore up his boobboos….

  46. yes, controlling Michigan and Florida delegations is very, very important. Believe me, her team is working as hard as they can and this is going to the floor and I don’t blame her.

  47. There is a definite 180 happening in the msm. Rassmussen today for 1, 3 anti obama commentaries, MSNBC website is becoming a bit narky towards him and many others.

  48. cant believe i agree with tucker on msnbc-he is saying obama needs to stop giving hillary ultimatums of states she must win in this-bc she will win them! he was saying her best arguement is that she wins dems big. period. she wins swing voters. period. obama cannot. time for superds to wise up.

  49. Texan, relax about the superds. They can always change their minds. This is just BO?Axelrod covering up for his wipe out in PA.

  50. i think hillary’s SD are holding back so that BO doesn’t deploy a massive amount of his SD all at once and make the “uncommitted” SD go running to him

  51. Per Mark Halperin

    Top strategist Charlie Black tells TIME’s Michael Scherer the controversial ad linking Obama, Rev. Wright and two North Carolina Democrats will not air.

  52. hursday Apr 24, 2008
    The Obama Watch Comes To An End: Fox News Sunday Gets Obama!

    Chris Wallace must be happy…

    FishbowlDC has learned that Sen. Barack Obama will finally appear on Fox News Sunday this weekend. A pre-taped interview is slated to take place Saturday in Marion, Indiana.

    You’ll recall that Wallace started the “Obama Watch” in March (and even put notice of it on his office door) and dated it back to May 2006, when Wallace said Obama agreed to a face-to-face interview on Fox News Sunday.

    Obama has largely avoided Fox throughout the campaign, although things changed on January 9 when he did do an interview with the cable news network.

    We have to wonder: With Obama now doing Fox News Sunday, will he make good on his pledge to Bill O’Reilly to appear on “The O’Reilly Factor”?

  53. JAS Says:

    April 24th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    Per Mark Halperin

    Top strategist Charlie Black tells TIME’s Michael Scherer the controversial ad linking Obama, Rev. Wright and two North Carolina Democrats will not air.

    Good. I don’t think that ad is any good for Hill.

  54. You know all these SD’s Obama trots out after loses he has had in his, Kennedy’s or Kerry’s pockets for weeks. You know how it goes tit for tat….. I know Hillary is holding some back just waiting to do it when she is close enough in delegates to take the lead from bambi in one swift move. At least that is the way I would do it get within 70 or 80 delegates and then drop a 100 SD bomb on his ass.

  55. Hey, the NYT article someone posted above (www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/us/politics/24obama.html?_r=3&ref=politics&oref=login&oref=slogin&oref=slogin) states that 18% of PA voters in exit polls said race mattered. However it fails to give a breakdown by race of who answered the question that way. It very well could be AA voters saying race matters…..

    Just saying….

  56. What I like is that he trots out endorsements like David Boren and the BM gives him a ticker tape parade all the while failing to state Borens teh Elder is not a SD.

    If they did, folks might be like “Who gives a shit?!?”

    And yes, you are right about them holding them back until they need to change the story. Boren was his back in 1994.

  57. Ad concept I forwarded onto Garin, comparing Obama and Bush wanting to avoid scrutiny:

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Narrator: Some politicians don’t feel the public is entitled to know about their positions and policies. George Bush held fewer press conferences than any other president, and he had to be coerced into debating.
    (picture of crabby looking Bush from a WH press conference)

    And there is another politician in this race with a similar approach;

    who also avoids the press…
    Obama (video): “I’ve already answered like eight of your questions”

    who says he’s done debating his opponent…
    Obama: “We’ve had like 21 of these already”

    who says “enough” to further vetting…
    Obama: “I know this is a process I have to go through”

    Haven’t we had enough of an imperial presidency?
    (Bush/Obama in split screen, each with a smug look, which should be easy to obtain pictures of)

    Aren’t we ready for someone ready to answer the tough questions,
    (picture of HRC from a town hall or press conference)

    who knows the issues
    (another pic/vid)

    and who wants you to be fully informed
    (another pic/vid)

    Narrator: Hillary Clinton believe it’s your country, it’s your government, and she’s ready to report for duty.

    HRC: I’m Hillary Clinton, and I endorse this message.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&& END OF AD &&&&

    Notes:

    The ad doesn’t even mention his Royal Highness’ name, deliberately, but calls him a *gasp* “politician”.

    The Obama: “I know this is a process I have to go through” was from the 4/16 debate in Philly.

  58. Wallace will be kissing Obama’s ass .. I think that Oreilly has been softballing bambi lately too in hopes of getting him on there. I guess he thinks going on fox will make him look tougher LOL. I betcha Wallace won’t ask him questions like he did Big Dawg

  59. I just read that Joe Klein article. What is with all these wimps in the media? Campaigns are by their very nature negative. No matter how much politicians hem and haw about running a positive campaign, the bottom line is negativity works! All this talk about taking the high road is BS. John Kerry found that out the hard way. So what if Hillary threw the “kitchen sink” at BO. This is the big leagues. I’m glad HRC knows how to punch and hit back. She’ll need both of those skills for the GOP in the fall.

  60. The NC Dem party ad with Rev Wright

    IS GOING TO RUN……

    I forget her name, but she is featured in the ad as one of the two running it, was on MSNBC this morning!!
    she said they do intend to run the ad next week , despite being asked not too.

    this interview happened AFTER……mark Halperin’s article

  61. dot48: you say Wallace willbe kissing Obamas ass…. I am I missing something, I thought FOX and Wallace would be hard on him??? or am I wrong??

  62. the “protect bambi” has been going on since before Iowa. I don’t know why the media doesn’t want us to know all we can about him. They sure as hell be sure that everything about Hillary is known ..

    Big double standard and I think that sd’s are starting to realize like many normal people that Obama is an unknown quantity and that he has to be vetted .. we can’t stand the chance of another idiot in the white house. He can’t think on his feet and he’s an angry person and yes, I question his patriotism.

  63. Chris Wallace is in the tank .. he came on Fox and Friends and tried to tell them how to run their morning show .. not to be so hard on bambi. Geraldo is in the tank too, Megan Kelly as well.

  64. rgb44hrc Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Ad concept I forwarded onto Garin, comparing Obama and Bush wanting to avoid scrutiny:

    *********************************

    That is top notch!!! GREAT idea i hope they use it!!! 😀

  65. Mary Matlin made a good case on H&C last night about any Rev Wright ads. She said it’s relevant because he stayed in that church for so long and doesn’t want anyone to ask about it. She said the ads will run in the fall, those any many others, if he is the nominee, and that he better get used to it now. She felt they were fair and the outcry is silliness.

  66. I was thinking about Admin’s post on Wright above:

    👿 used Wright to get a political career started. Now, Wright will end his political career.

    It reminds me of one of those choose your own adventure books where if you pick the wrong choice, it seems like everything is going along just great and then out of nowhere a pterodactyl eats you. I think 👿 made the wrong choice a long time ago and it’s now just catching up to him.

  67. Clinton Tries to Cut Into Obama’s Lead in North Carolina

    Posted by John Bentley|
    via CBS news
    April 24, 2008, 9:08 AM
    ASHINGTON – While one of the next two primary states – Indiana – looks like it will be a tightly fought contest, the other May 6th state – North Carolina – does not. Barack Obama holds a double digit lead there right now in early polling, but Hillary Clinton hopes to do what Obama did in Pennsylvania: whittle away enough of his lead to claim a moral victory by narrowing his winning percentage.

    Obama’s lead in North Carolina lies mainly in the middle of the state, in cities like Charlotte, Raleigh, and Greensboro. That’s why Clinton will work around the edges today, trying to pick up voters in the smaller towns and more rural areas of the state. She holds two events today, one in Fayetteville, in the southeastern section of the state, and another tonight in Asheville, in the far western corner.

    Clinton will also make her pitch to military voters, stressing her membership on the Senate Armed Services Committee. She’ll be joined by Gen. Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under both President Clinton and President George W. Bush. Fayetteville is home to Fort Bragg, the largest Army base in the world, where Shelton was a commander. Tomorrow she visits Jacksonville, North Carolina, where Camp Lejeune houses close to 50,000 Marines.

  68. yes!! Hillary is going to target the military bases with her Generals and hit the small town blue collar workers. Her strategy is brilliant and now that she’s got some good funding, she is gonna be in good shape for the next two contests.

  69. JAS Says:

    April 24th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    Per Mark Halperin

    Top strategist Charlie Black tells TIME’s Michael Scherer the controversial ad linking Obama, Rev. Wright and two North Carolina Democrats will not air.
    **
    that’s because they’re saving it for the fall.

    ***********

    meanwhile, BO takes today off – probably a deposition day for him in Chicawgo.

    ******
    speaking of BO, the 60s, privileged college students incited to riot – have all of you seen this:

    Recreate68 – the umbrella org for Code Pink and other anti-war groups who plan to “protest” in Denver during the DNC- they say they will be peaceful, but are OK with “self-defensive” violence. Hmmmm…

    stop-obama.org/?p=220#more-220

  70. Excerpts from ‘The rehabbing of’ Reverend Wright Tour, starting soon;

    REVEREND WRIGHT:
    The persons who have heard the entire sermon understand the
    communication perfectly.
    When something is taken like a sound bite for a political purpose and
    put constantly over and over again, looped in the face of the public,
    that’s not a failure to communicate. Those who are doing that are
    communicating exactly what they want to do, which is to paint me as some sort of fanatic or as the learned journalist from the New York Times
    called me, a “wackadoodle.”

    It’s to paint me as something: “Something’s wrong with me. There’s
    nothing wrong with this country…for its policies. We’re perfect. Our
    hands are free. Our hands have no blood on them.” That’s not a failure
    to communicate. The message that is being communicated by the sound
    bites is exactly what those pushing those sound bites want to
    communicate.

    BILL MOYERS:
    What do you think they wanted to communicate?

    REVEREND WRIGHT:
    I think they wanted to communicate that I am unpatriotic, that I am
    un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at
    Trinity United Church of Christ. And by the way, guess who goes to his
    church, hint, hint, hint? That’s what they wanted to communicate.

  71. djia,

    Clinton will also make her pitch to military voters, stressing her membership on the Senate Armed Services Committee. She’ll be joined by Gen. Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under both President Clinton and President George W. Bush. Fayetteville is home to Fort Bragg, the largest Army base in the world, where Shelton was a commander. Tomorrow she visits Jacksonville, North Carolina, where Camp Lejeune houses close to 50,000 Marines.

    Didn’t I say something yesterday about doing exactly that? Hmmm…. and on the other thread yesterday I posted Axelrod’s screw-up about “Old People Being the Problem.” No one said anything about it until the next day….

    I’m telling you, I’m ahead of the curve. I’m psychotic. 😆

  72. recreat68 has said they wish to recreat 1968 in denver

    but……the difference is the protesters in 1968 were peaceful , it was the chicago police that started the blood bath

    but this group recreate 68 has stated they “will be violent”

  73. Thanks, djia. I think we need to dog him on the debating issue, or at least use it against him to show he’s chicken.

    And the Bush analogy comes from my wife and I agreeing that Obama in many ways is the mirror image opposite of Bush on policy, but twins at heart in the way they are late comers to politics, big on the charm factor, and let “people who know a bunch of stuff” actually run the show.

  74. Blue, I read that earlier this morning and think it’s very sarcastic.I’d like to see the delivery of It’s to paint me as something: “Something’s wrong with me. There’s nothing wrong with this country…for its policies. We’re perfect. Our hands are free. Our hands have no blood on them.”

    I bet it comes off very badly.

  75. let em riot. this is too important to let a few nutcases set the tone. look at the country, oil at an all time high, food and grain getting out of the atmosphere, housing, jobs, wars, infrastructure, …

    there is much more at stake than letting a few nuts take away our opportunity to have someone in the WhiteHouse again that gets it. Hillary gets it, Obama doesn’t have a friggin clue, the dems want a puppet man but he is just egocentric enough to once he gets in .. tell them, I don’t need you white boys anymore .. fcuk off.

  76. rgb

    only thing is her campaign can’t make that …….she can not compare him to bush

    i would send the idea to her 527’s

  77. Okie,

    “I posted Axelrod’s screw-up about “Old People Being the Problem.”

    Did he actually say those words?

    Or was it inferred from the quote about working people?

  78. I checked out Recreate68’s site http://www.recreate68.org/ . They are ripping off the ACLU and the Weathermen,, BLA, BP and SDS.

    It makes Flineo’s video all the more impressive.

    Jeebus, these guys need their parents to give them a good spanking.

    Seeeeee???? See what sparing the rod creates? Spoiled little brats.

  79. mark halperin is wrong. Good. John McCain has made this local ad into a national story.

    djia – i think this r68 group like so many of Obama younger followers romanticize the 60s without thinking through any of it – it’s like a slick, Nike-glossed over commercial for : Chicago 68, MLK, Malcolm X, etc. that constantly plays in their heads.

  80. Blue, it was the title. And yes, that was the implication of the quote. It’s also the implication of his quotes on blue-collar voters.

    Our message is right, they’re just too stupid or backwards or old to get it.

    That’s what Axelrod has said repeatedly since Tuesday Night.

  81. check out this photo, 3 generations of Clintons. It’s a good one.

    anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/04/just-because.html#comments

  82. djia, no it’s not a drink mix….And I’m still down with the “Hillinator.” Yumm-may.

    Djia, please note candidates do not have 527’s. They cannot. It’s a major election rules infraction. Nor can 527’s advocate on behalf of a candidate, although they can beat the hell out of one they don’t like.

  83. Blue- I abbreviated my answer above- it’s the whole thing about being too arrogant- something for which 👿 is oft criticized. When Axelrod says their campaign, the candidate, the message, the policy positions aren’t wrong, what he does is undermine the foundation of the democratic party and the values of Democratic voters.

    His chief problem is coming at the whole of the party from the position of elitism or latte liberalism which honestly isn’t liberalism as much as it is paternalism. It’s that brand of paternalism (big government, we will make choices for you, etc.) that turned off Reagan Democrats in the first place. It’s a bad idea when a party is trying to recoup it’s power. It’s a worse idea when the representative of that brand of politics is a black, Muslim named, Harvard law grad who associates with domestic terrorists, Middle Eastern money men and assorted political mobster types.

  84. please note candidates do not have 527’s.

    understood…

    i mean’t it would best to find one that is against 👿 and float the ad idea to them

  85. JAS- I have sent several e-mails. None returned undeliverable, but none answered either.

    I’m missing my buddy. She and I could riff like no one else. 🙁

  86. # djia Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    only thing is her campaign can’t make that …….she can not compare him to bush
    i would send the idea to her 527’s
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Hmmm, wasn’t aware of that little detail. The reference to Bush could be made more oblique to get it under the radar…

  87. # lninla Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    mark halperin is wrong. Good. John McCain has made this local ad into a national story.

    djia – i think this r68 group like so many of Obama younger followers romanticize the 60s without thinking through any of it – it’s like a slick, Nike-glossed over commercial for : Chicago 68, MLK, Malcolm X, etc. that constantly plays in their heads.

    I agree !

  88. djia, I think the ALP is one, but 👿 attorney, Bauer, has played hardball with them and got out in front of them. Best for a new 527 to arise from its ashes and kick his ass.

    But let’s be realistic- even if the 527 doesn’t have her name on it- it will be attributed to her because she has been “branded” for two decades. See the Naomi Klein book “The Branding of America” for some insight into political branding. which, btw, I though Hillary hired like the uber guru of branding last Fall. What ever happened with him? He seems like a washout.

  89. Hey, I remember February sucking big time for me. It took a month to get rid of that awful flu and there are so many more bugs out there. Many folks here have had problems or sick relatives. They are all missed.

    Especially Kostner, MollyJ and Idunn. There are a few others, but those are some I really miss.

  90. Idunn is gone. I don’t think she will be back. I think somebody said lil ole grape but I don’t think so.

    Word was she had bronchitis, then her mil came, then nothing .. I was looking through the archives today and a lot of posters have moved on it seems.

  91. A presidential nominee who failed to win Florida, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Texas, and California is not one who can be trusted to win a general election.

  92. If we find out there are problems with getting on we need to contact the admin. I do so miss a lot of the posters. Kostner was the first who made me feel welcome here and come to find out we were both skating fans and admired the same skaters!!

  93. love tm today-will rules stop our chances? this isnt gore 2000 in a genral election where the gop run court gave it to bush. our party can nom the best candidate. bambi and msm scream-but the pledged deleagtes! please. the writing is on the wall for him. do we want to save roe or not? save brown v board or not? deliver healthcare or not?

  94. If that Wright ad runs in NC it brings up something interesting. We already know the BHO forces have used threats to force SD’s to switch from Clinton to him. Rep. John Lewis of SC is a prime example.

    Ads like the Wright ad could cause SD’s to switch to Hillary in droves. A few in all black districts and such would not be affected, but many others would.

    While that isn’t the kind of politics I like, it would be a kind of justice if this actually happened in this case.

  95. While I realize Admin could push a button and I’m toast, my intention is to be the last one remaining on this board, long after Hillary has been nominated and elected – if it remains active that long. This is a great place from which to participate in this campaign. Lots of great people also.

  96. Debunking idiocy in “Pyrrhic Victory for Clinton?” by Madison Powers (from my earlier posting)

    http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002710031

    Powers says:

    Moreover, the “poor but proud underdog” story of what happened in Pennsylvania borders on the fantastic. It leaves out the fact that her polling margin 7 weeks earlier was double that of her ultimate victory.
    More importantly, the underdog spin omits the fact that Clinton had Governor Ed Rendell, 100 mayors from across Pennsylvania, including Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, expending their considerable organizational resources and political capital on her behalf.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    I sez:

    This is what happens when extraordinary blocks of AA’s support a candidate. She whooped him by 70-30% in many parts of the state, and punctured Obama’s hopes by snarfing certain Philly suburb counties. But it is becoming clearer that BO is getting narrower support. Otherwise, he would have done better, and with the advantages of being the front runner and having much more dough for ads, I’d say Our Girl held up quite nicely.

    God, what do these people want??? “If she doesn’t win by 40%, she’s done, toast. She’ll have to withdraw”. Spineless maggots.

  97. I just got a call from the campaign, asking for donation. In for another $50.44. Jonathan is also encouraging phonebankers for North Carolina and Indiana.

    Some fucker on Fox saying that Hillary’s win in PA is nothing!!! Why is Obama in hiding licking his wounds and why won’t he debate her then? Says he doesn’t need to debate her anymore cause he is the “presumptive nominee”…..getting cocky as hell ain’t he?

  98. hey all…. Hannity was just interviewing the guy that made the new commercial that talks about obama voting against the death penalty for gangs in chicago….or something like that…

    anyways at the end of the interview the guy said he couldn’t say what other ads they would be doing but did say they were
    listening to hannity and following along the lines of the things hannity is talking about

    so…..there will be alot more neg ads about obama to come soon!!

  99. That is why it’s important for Hillary in NC to win those blue collar districts. She DOES have the momentum and that is WHY he is home alone and has his goons out all over tv trying to tear her down.

    It’s killing them that she is getting campaign funds now .. BUT all she had to do was tell the people, they spoke up after SuperTuesday to help her when they found out she needed money. Hillary just hates to keep gouging her supporters cause she knows we are hurting right now.

  100. BTW- Wright taught 👿 well. He’s also playing the “blame the messenger” game in saying his sermons were publicized “for very devious reasons.”

    It implies to me that he feels 👿 is entitled to a free pass. Why couldn’t they be publicized because the sermons and 👿 ‘s judgment in attending services there and donating large sums of money belies his claim of superior judgment on all things under the sun….

  101. well Obama started off in North Carolina polling at 47 … let us remember that when Hillary sends the tingle up his leg there as well.

  102. Missed Carville vs Richardson last night, so went to relclearpolitics and watched video. Glad Carville repeated Judas when asked (“Benedict Arnold if Fourth of July”). Richardson is such a sellout loser. Hope le loses his next election. His best days are OVER. Admire Carville – Southern Gentleman with honor and LOYALTY.

  103. Okie..it is about judgement. I find it hilarious how McCain is going about this too .. he is denouncing the running of the ad and asking them to stop .. knowing he can’t dictate to them what to do. It gives him cover and they can do whatever they feel is necessary. Cool beans for McCain. That is how it’ll work now…McCain will stay above the fray.

    I personally think everybody headed into a pollling booth ought to be met 100ft away with a “goddam American” sermon pamplet.

  104. CNN PA tallies (updated 11:17 a.m. EST, April 24, 2008)

    Clinton 1,260,416 55% 83
    Obama 1,045,910 45% 73

    99% reporting

    If you add up the two totals, you get 2,305,326 voters totals between the two candidates.
    Dividing with 3 decimals:

    HRC 54.650%
    BHO 45.349%

    9.301% difference.

    But wait. There’s more.

    What about that 1%?
    What about absentee votes?

    I think older voters’ absentee ballots will nudge it closer back to 10%.

    But even if she won by 28%, MSM and DNC would still be saying she needs to withdraw. So we can’t listen to them.

  105. An avid history buff, mistakenly thought in terms of coups as occuring in less-developed or third world countries with very crude takeover attempts. What we are witnessing is indeed “Living History”. We are watching the New World Order, Jihad and Hamas taking over our country without the supporters (young people and most old hippies) realizing what in the hell they are doing. Such is the appeal of a Hitler-type messiah-type charasmatic figure. Never really have seen the charisma or what the big deal is. Not impressed with phonies.

  106. since when did the news outlet start doing it to the decimal point? When Hillary wins by 10% of course! I hope somebody goes back to all those he won and cuts them down. Friggin nuts

  107. OMG- I just had a horrible thought:

    What will happen when the GOP starts meddling with MI and FL disenfranchisement and starts saying that the DNC is providing affirmative action for 👿 by not counting those votes and those delegates?

    You’ll know the shit is on then….

  108. Personally think he’s in Chicago for legal advise, giving depositions and trying to get Wright to cancel presentation with National Press Corp.

  109. this to me is big news for us-hillary has named a grassroots mt team-and lookie guv schwietzer’s bro is working in a key position for hillary. now what does that tell us!
    4/24/2008
    Montana for Hillary Hires Montanans for Key In-State Positions
    Billings, MT – Montana for Hillary recently hired three Montanans to fulfill key roles in her Montana campaign. Lena Belcourt of Rocky Boy will serve as Indian Affairs Coordinator, Kate Downen of Great Falls as Communications Director and Walter Schweitzer will serve as Senior Advisor to the campaign’s in-state effort.

    Belcourt, a Chippewa Cree Tribal member, is a health policy analyst and consultant who advises elected Tribal Leadership in their in local, state and national policymaking. In 2004 Belcourt served on then Governor-Elect Schweitzer’s transition team as a policy advisor, and in 2005 she was detailed by the Chippewa Cree Tribe to the Office of the Governor of Montana, serving as the Governor Schweitzer’s Policy Advisor on Health and Disability. Belcourt also staffed Alvin Windy Boy, Sr., former Chairman of the Chippewa Cree Tribe, on his health policy agenda. Belcourt lives on the Rocky Boy Reservation in north central Montana.

    Belcourt intends to make Indian healthcare a focus of her work for Montana for Hillary.

    “We as Indians have been left out of the American dream by our lack of access to accessible, affordable healthcare. I believe in accessible, quality healthcare for Montana Tribes and I know that Hillary Clinton will work her hardest to make it a reality.”

    Kate Downen of Great Falls joins Montana for Hillary as Communications Director. Downen graduated from CM Russell in 1998, has a bachelor’s degree in English from the University of Notre Dame and was press secretary on Jon Tester’s successful U.S. Senate campaign in 2006. She spent several years in Montana’s Flathead Valley working on regional economic development issues and worked as NewWest.Net’s Flathead Valley editor.

    “I couldn’t be happier to be home, working with a team of people who really understand and care about Montana issues. Our lives and our families are here, and we’re passionate about electing a candidate who will work hard in the interest of all Montanans.”

    Walter Schweitzer, Senior Advisor to the campaign, is a third-generation Montana farmer and rancher. Schweitzer has worked as an agriculture consultant around the world and has volunteered on several campaigns, including his brother Governor Brian Schweitzer’s campaigns. Schweitzer was born in Great Falls and farms and ranches near Geyser.

    “It’s important to Montana that Hillary Clinton be elected President. I know she can turn our economy around and get us out of the Iraq war,” Schweitzer said.

    They join Matt McKenna of Bozeman, who has been serving as state director since early April.

  110. http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0408/Reid_Pelosi_Dean_may_intervene_in_nomination.html

    Reid, Pelosi, Dean may intervene in nomination

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday that he may have to push undecided superdelegates to make their decisions in the Democratic presidential race, if the contest stretches into June.

    Reid said he would consider writing a joint letter with Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) demanding that superdelegates make their endorsements public.

    “The three of us, we may write a joint letter [to superdelegates],” said Reid. “We might do individual letters. We are in contact with each other.”

    Reid’s comments suggest that the party’s top three officials are contemplating a high-level intervention if the primary season concludes in June without a nominee and many superdelegates still undecided.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    I swear, at some point, we’re going to find something Dean said that we can find violates his obligations vis-a-vis DNC rules.

  111. more good news-look at hill’s new dir for south dakota
    4/24/2008
    South Dakota for Hillary Announces State Director
    Beresford native Geoff Wetrosky overseeing state operation, working out of Sioux Falls
    Hillary Clinton for President today announced the appointment of Geoff Wetrosky as South Dakota state director. Wetrosky, a South Dakota native, will oversee the campaign’s operation in the important final primary and will work out of Sioux Falls.

    “I couldn’t be happier working to elect a candidate who understands and respects the needs of South Dakotans. Hillary has real solutions to jumpstart the economy here, provide health insurance for all South Dakotans, and be a strong commander-in-chief,” Wetrosky said. “We will wage a vigorous campaign here to build on the grassroots support of our committed volunteers already working hard for Hillary in South Dakota.”

    Wetrosky was born and raised in Beresford in southeastern South Dakota. He graduated from Beresford High School and Augustana College in Sioux Falls, SD. He has served on the Clinton campaign for more than a year, working as Deputy Field Director in New Hampshire, Georgia Field Director, Texas Voter Contact Director, and Pennsylvania Voter Contact Director.

    Prior to joining the campaign, Wetrosky worked as a Field Organizer for Senator Tim Johnson’s 2002 reelection campaign, and Field Director for Congresswoman Stephanie Herseth when she was first elected in a 2004 special election. He also worked for John Kerry in Florida in the 2004 general election, and for Deval Patrick’s 2006 gubernatorial campaign in Massachusetts.

  112. So we keep reading these captions like “Who’s going to tell HRC it’s over”? To me it’s now more like – which one Dean, Brazile, or Pelosi is going to break it to BHO and Axelrod that they’ve concluded BHO can’t win and even they don’t want a race war, they must do what’s in the Party’s best interest so they can win in November? I know, I’m dreaming. None of them have the guts to do what needs to be done. Chicken$#!+.

  113. curiosityhasme Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Personally think he’s in Chicago for legal advise, and trying to get Wright to cancel presentation with National Press Corp.

    **********************************************

    I found out today that larry sinclair submitted through his attorney an affidavit to the chicago police dept. regarding the trinity choir Director ,Donald Young, that was murdered , well larry claims this guy contacted him prior to his death…..more to the story at larry’s site……..but now, larry got confirmation that it was acknowledge by the chicago police and they asked larry to have him and his attorney contact them. so perhaps this is something BO is dealing with today??? larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/chicago-police-acknowledge-young-affidavit/

  114. Here’s another person who knows for a fact that there are only 48 states:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9844.html

    Clinton goes after Obama’s strengths
    By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 4/23/08 6:42 PM EST

    INDIANAPOLIS — Fresh off her big win in Pennsylvania, Hillary Rodham Clinton is attempting to rewrite the presidential campaign narrative using a new two-pronged argument that goes after Barack Obama’s strengths. The new Clinton strategy: Claim — somewhat implausibly — that she has received more popular votes than Obama while also boasting of her campaign’s newfound fundraising strength.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Yeah, who can forget FL and MI seceded from the Union?

    But ahem, “our good friend, Karl Rove”, with his “good math”, knows of these two states, and still counts all 50 stars on the flag. (Dammit, I hate admitting he’s right, even about the color of the sun).

  115. That’s why the Ta;lking Points on the Seating of the Fl & MI delegates yesterday on MyDD, along with a pdf copy of the Election rules is so important. These decisions to disenfranchise millions of voters is not a binding rule, legally. It was manufactured to give cover to BHO only. BHO is probably meeting with “Civil Rights” attorneys in Chicago as we speak, finding ways to uphold the ruling by the DNC. I’m so sick of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and the like deciding what can and can’t happen in this country. I say – CHALLENGE THEM – and let it go the the friggin’ Supreme Court. This is absolute bull$#!+.

  116. i am only an hour from sioux falls 😀

    and my best friend since 9th grade lives in beresford where her husband grew up and probably went to school with
    Geoff Wetrosky………and my girlfriend works for the local beresford paper as an editor 😀

  117. texan4hillary, I saw your post last week about NE Philly canvassing. I canvassed there too. (Roger from NJ). I believe I you were one of the organizers at the 4/10 organizational mtg at the Laborers’ Hall.

    We came, we canvassed, we kicked butt.

  118. Sinclair and I still am waiting to find out the real story about the twenty-year member of TUCC (another 20-year member) – the very popular gay choir director who was murdered Christmas Eve – multiple gunshot wounds. Think it was a hit myself, designed to be at Christmas so it would look like a robbery. Whatever. Fact it wasn’t reported for over 48 hours by Big Media, BHO campaign, Chicago PD is very telling, IMHO.

  119. Actually those headlines that Pelosi and others are gonna try to “force” a nominee might just help Hillary. It’ll drive her base out even more, and many people will say “FUCK YOU DEAN AND CO” we are voting for Hillary because this is a democracy and you cant PICK our nominee .. we’ll do that.

    Seriously they sound like this is some kind of drug intervention process.

    WTH do we have primaries if they want to force a nominee before it’s all over.

    The party is telling voters…we don’t give a jack shit about you and in turn the voters are giving them the big finger.

    Hillary surrogates need to make it known to the public that they continue to try to force her out … even after she showed her strengths in PA and won 55% of the vote…

  120. Heads up…Nancy Pelosi is on Larry King tonight…perhaps to mimic Dean in his comments of today?

  121. thats great dean and the others want to do a letter. scary. not. it will piss off clinton dems more boost her gotv. thanks nance

  122. dot48:

    I agree. The more the DNC presses for SD to commit (translation: had the nomination to BHO) the more hard-working Americans resent the hell out of it. Just keep it up Madame Speaker, Dr. Dean and Lady Brazile. Keep it up. The peasants will revolt and there will be a revolution of your dogma and agenda being shoved down the throats of the true Democrats in this country. We know when our party is being hijacked by Marxist leftists and we won’t take it sitting down. Their New World Order doesn’t belong in our country. take it to Africa and let it play out with cousin Odinga in Kenya. Those poor people can tell us a lot about BHO, if we listen. Find websites linking the missionary tales about the true BHO. Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama is what I’ve read is his true given name. Along with the fact he IS Muslim and supports Jihad – taking their extreism worldwide. Talks to Odinga every day. Do some digging and you’ll find this as well. WAKE UP AMEICA!

  123. Charlie Cook’s Funny Brain:

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/cr_20080426_9889.php

    Here’s an excerpt:

    But you can’t change how the game is played once it has begun. The Democrats have decided that the nominee will be determined by the number of delegates won, not by the popular vote, and that primaries held in direct violation of party rules (in this case, Florida’s and Michigan’s) don’t count. End of discussion.
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%

    Okay, let’s review “The Rules”.

    1. First candidate to hit the magical delegate count cutoff will be declared the (was higher w/ FL and MI, but is now 2,024 without them).
    So Cook’s line, “the nominee will be determined by the number of delegates won, not by the popular vote”, assumes that at the end of the primaries, if Obama is ahead by one delegate (even though he didn’t hit 2,024), he will have to be declared the winner. Exactly untrue. That the DNC is trying to frame it this way now is “CHANGING THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME”.

    2. Cook’s assertion that the Rules bar FL and MI for early voting is wrong on many fronts.
    a. NH and SC jumped, but weren’t punished. Isn’t that changing the rules mid-game??
    b. The Rules never specified exactly what the punishment would be for jumping. To arbitrarily assign 100% punishment to two states, and 0% punishment to two other states, is CHANGING THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME

    &&&
    These blowhards like to think that their massive brains are always right. They are proving to be merely sick souls with hidden agendas.

  124. Anyone have any airline miles they would like to donate. My friend and i want to go to NC to help out
    I just got back from PA can’t afford a plane ticket at this time. When is the convention in Denver

  125. curiosity, you’re getting nutty. The email you are essentially quoting comes from a couple of nutjobs. And djia, I of all people would love for 👿 to get caught cheating on his wife while doing drugs, but Sinclair has failed a lie detector test and won’t provide and written evidence to support hsi claim.

    Look, there’s a difference between being a Hillary support and being an irrational tinfoil hat wearing GOPer.

    Can we just make fun of his Dumbo ears? Or his perpetually frightened wife or better yet, his gayporn star looking campaign manager, Axelrod? We don’t want to look like goobers.

  126. did you guys see the new obama t shirts?

    stop the drama! vote obama!

    ok we can do better than that! let’s think up a rebuttle tshirt idea

  127. djia Says:

    April 24th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
    did you guys see the new obama t shirts?

    stop the drama! vote obama!

    ok we can do better than that! let’s think up a rebuttle tshirt idea

    Is that an official tee shirt?

  128. “If you want tranquility, vote for Hillary” Now I’m going to be thinking of T-shirt slogans for the rest of the day 🙂

  129. For those boycotting Matthews:

    Matthews said that unless Obama learns to fight like Hillary he will lose in August. Hillary will get the nomination.

    Also of great interest, Matthews said that not only does Obama have to win North Carolina but he also has to get white working class voters. This is what Big Media blowhards have consistently done to Hillary, told her she has to win State X along with an additional condition difficult to meet.

    Just hearing that Obama has to win NC and the white working class vote is a taste of what Hillary has had to face.

    We are in a post Pennsylvania world.

  130. just received a reply from Senator Ben Cardin (MD) re: letter to him as SD. They are listening folks and paying attention…..please write them if you have the time.

  131. nowonder jews are fleeing camp bambi-look at these answers on israel
    tinyurl.com/3rnfm6

    During the week before the Pennsylvania primary, I met with Sen. Barack Obama’s middle east advisers in Washington, Howard Guttman and former Californian Congressman Mel Levine, along with another Obama Middle East aide who spoke on condition of anonymity, in my capacity as the Middle East Correspondent of the Philadelphia Bulletin.

    These are the questions The Bulletin posed to Mr. Obama’s Middle East advisers and the responses that they provided:

    1. How would a President Obama relate to the security threat posed by Saudi Arabia? [Declassified security reports confirm that Saudi Arabia continues to fund groups defined by the U.S. government as terrorist organizations, while Saudi Arabia maintains an active state of war against the state of Israel since 1948.]

    None of Mr. Obama’s advisers could answer this question.

    2. Does Mr. Obama support President Bush’s policy of arming the Saudis? [The Bush administration offers major arms sales to Saudi Arabia, despite its pro-terror posture]

    Neither Guttman nor Levine could tell The Bulletin whether or not Mr. Obama supports the Bush arms sales to Saudi Arabia. They checked with Mr. Obama and could not get an answer.

    3. Would a President Obama support the idea that Palestinian refugees should reside in UNRWA refugee camps, under the premise and promise of the “right of return,” instead of being provided with decent living conditions?

    While each of Mr. Obama’s advisers emphasized that the candidate opposed the Palestinian “right of return,” none of them could find out what Mr. Obama’s position is concerning continuing American government funding for the UNRWA agency, which fuels the right of return.

  132. 12. Would a President Obama support an effort to destroy the Syrian source of lethal narcotics in the Bekka Valley, since Syria continues to orchestrate the export of lethal narcotics to the world?

    Mr. Obama’s advisers could not answer this question.

  133. okie……but now he’s got hillary calling him on it as well as those in oregon making public calls for him to debate

    alot of pressure for him

  134. Holy Fuck! I couldn’t have wrote this one better!

    “Well, you know Barrick has to say what he has to say as a politician.So I understand why he said he didn’t agree with me–otherwise barrick would be crucified and he’d lose handily–but if the general public really believes Barrick’s political words then I’ve got a bridge to sell them–Barrick and I are on the same page–it’s just that Barrick can’t politically say that we’re on the same page”

  135. OMG, Blue Democrat.

    Wright just said that Obama really agrees with him *wink wink nudge nudge* and IS LYING TO THE VOTERS!

  136. Hi, Hillfriends!
    Admin: wonderful article, as always.
    Everyone: GREAT discussion today – I’ve been checking in from time to time. The tide has turned!
    H4T: Who’s “Barrick?” 🙂

  137. Apologies, apologies, that was someone’s interpretation of this quote, from Politico (This I just saw the video of, now it’s real.
    The original interpretation I posted is what someone said these remarks would be taken as. Can’t say I disagree.
    This is already getting play on cable and Buchanan said this is very very bad news for BO. Most seemed to agree with him.)

    Mr. Wright, who has acted as Mr. Obama’s spiritual mentor and retired in February as pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, said that he has never heard Mr. Obama repeat any of his controversial statements.

    “Absolutely not,” Mr. Wright said. “I don’t talk to him about politics. And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.”

    Mr. Obama publicly denounced Mr. Wright’s remarks, a reaction Mr. Wright said “went down very simply.”

    “He’s a politician, I’m a pastor,” he said. “We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they’re two different worlds.”

  138. A word of caution seems like msnbc/cnn et al have become slightly more fair. Personnally I don’t buy it. She proved herself and the headlines would have screamed victory if the shoe had been on the other foot. So I think it is a poorly executed attempt at placating her base. PA residents with almost every newspaper and TV station tried to promulgate the obama myth but i doubt they are conceding..

    Lil o grape
    i wondered if you were Idunn “outloud” here. My bad but it was meant as a high compliment.

  139. I sure miss Idunn.

    She was feeling ill last I heard from her… But Im confident she is one tough African American woman.
    She has to be, since she supports Hillary! 😛

  140. Rev. Jeremiah Wright: My Words Were Twisted

    No Jerry, Bill Clinton’s words were twisted, your words reveal the hatred you and Obama have for this country.

  141. Mj
    very much
    I have a couple of nieces that I actually used Idunn and OkieAtty’s posts to teach them about empowerment and politics. Of course I must apologize to OkieAtty as i removed any and all references to ass cancer when doing.

  142. OMG BlueDem, is that an ACTUAL QUOTE FROM WRIGHT?!?!? Whooahhhhhhhhh. WHOAHHHHHHH.

    BlueDemocrat wrote:
    —-
    Holy Fuck! I couldn’t have wrote this one better!

    “Well, you know Barrick has to say what he has to say as a politician.So I understand why he said he didn’t agree with me–otherwise barrick would be crucified and he’d lose handily–but if the general public really believes Barrick’s political words then I’ve got a bridge to sell them–Barrick and I are on the same page–it’s just that Barrick can’t politically say that we’re on the same page”

  143. Okieatty:

    Not nutty. Thank you very much. Not into slamming bloggers – don’t like being ridiculed either.

  144. Next weeks schedule:

    Wright speaks to the National Press Club very early on Sunday.

    Monday, the NC Republican Party starts its ads against Obama/Wright.

    Tuesday, the Weak Obama on crime/terror, begin to air.

    Looks like next week is the Wright week.

    And Berkeley Vox has the Wright quote that will be repeated and repeated. It is doubtful that Nascar fans and military people in NC and Indiana are going to appreciate Wright as much as Obama does.

    A lot of African-Americans will be turned off Wright when they finally see the tape of “God Damn America.” It’s one thing to read about Wright’s remarks, it is another thing to see them.

  145. Wright is such a liar though – he’s a consummate policitian and politics is conducted from the pulpit in many South Side AA churches including Trinity U.

  146. TUCC scrubbed their web pages of their Black Values System right after Wright was exposed. Afro-Centrist church that pledges its’ allegiance to Africa. I say let BHO and Oprah build umpteen schools in Africa and go run them. Let BHO help Odinga out in bringing Jihad to Kenya and be President of that country. He can be himself over there, and won’t have to worry about keeping his stories straight.

  147. Here’s a more credible source for the quote:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Wrights_defense.htm

    Ben Smith

    Wright’s defense

    Obama’s former pastor speaks to Bill Moyers:

    Mr. Wright, who has acted as Mr. Obama’s spiritual mentor and retired in February as pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, said that he has never heard Mr. Obama repeat any of his controversial statements.

    “Absolutely not,” Mr. Wright said. “I don’t talk to him about politics. And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.”

    Mr. Obama publicly denounced Mr. Wright’s remarks, a reaction Mr. Wright said “went down very simply.”

    “He’s a politician, I’m a pastor,” he said. “We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they’re two different worlds.”

  148. WTF is wrong with David Wu? He can not say because it is pressure from his district. Oregon’s 1st is the whitest district in the country.

  149. curiosityhasme,

    That ‘Black Values System’ makes a mailer that’d let us win every non-AA vote in NC.

    Or is it just me?

  150. ABC once again failed to show the Wright tape saying God Damn America. Most Americans have not seen that tape. Eventually a network will show the tape and play the audio and Americans will finally have a full understanding of why this has been such a big story.

  151. racheal maddow flipping her wig tonight LOL

    everyone against obama and she says ” i feel like i am in a alternate universe here with the truth”

  152. Hey yesterday I was trying to find the number to contact roland martin right, well i went to google and click on this contact info and it took me to Obamas site, and it said this

    Contact Roland Martin (Community Service)
    Help us keep the heat on Hillary and her lies. Help us keep the Rev. Wright fiasco at bay. Roland has been a true Barack advocate. Let’s keep him with plenty of honest, real, and forthright opinions and materials.

    I dont know if this is the same guy but it took me to obamas site.

    SO I EMAILED HIM AND ASKED HIM IF HE IS THE GUY ON CNN AND HE JUST ME A RESPONSE AND HE SAID YEP THAT’S ME! HA CAUGHT!

  153. djia Says:

    April 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
    racheal maddow flipping her wig tonight LOL

    everyone against obama and she says ” i feel like i am in a alternate universe here with the truth”

    Welcome to our world lady.

  154. djia Says:

    April 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
    racheal maddow flipping her wig tonight LOL

    everyone against obama and she says ” i feel like i am in a alternate universe here with the truth”

    Welcome Racheal, to the world of Hillary supporters.

  155. AH, okay BlueDem. No worries … 😀

    From Hillaryhub:

    More People Have Voted For Hillary Than Any Other Candidate

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    After last night’s decisive victory in Pennsylvania, more people have voted for Hillary than any other candidate, including Sen. Obama.

    Estimates vary slightly, but according to Real Clear Politics, Hillary has received 15,095,663 votes to Sen. Obama’s 14,973,720, a margin of more than 120,000 votes. ABC News reported this morning that “Clinton has pulled ahead of Obama” in the popular vote.

    This count includes certified vote totals in Florida and Michigan.

    UPDATE: MSNBC also has Hillary leading in the popular vote, counting voters in Florida and Michigan:

  156. SOMEONE HERE SAID THERESA HEINZ WAS THE LEAST ATTRACTIVE/TALANTED OF THE GABOR SISTERS–well i got huge mileage out of it, so thankyou.

  157. winhillary, did you save the email? Send it out to the media –

    OUT Roland Martin as a Bambi-lover, not the “neutral analyst” he claims to be.

  158. Whats going on folks, have i missed a media conversion tonight have they woken up and decided Obama is not the one.

    Seriously i go away for a few hours and all hell breaks loose.

  159. Blue Democrat: Some 527 needs to get copy of Black Values System (know there’s copy of web pages on Black Values System made before scrubbed – think on Rezko Watch) and distribute throughout NC and IN. It is one of those things that is so unbelievable that you have to read it three or four times before it really all soaks in. It leaves you totally dumbfounded that this could be part of any church that professes to believe in Jesus Christ. That’s because it really doesn’t. As a prophet maybe. All TUCC is – a front for the Nation of Islam. Wright is a former Muslim too (gasp – surprise). a totally leftist church – unpatriotic except to the continent of Africa. Plain and simple. But when BHO said he is was a “Christian” and has attended a “Christian” church for twenty years, the majority people just accepted it at fact value. NOT!

  160. mariska hagirtay- daughter of jane mansfield star of law and order svu just gave an interview to tv guide saying her heroes are the people that actually do the job.
    I promise this is the last time i will post this as i am sure everyone here is sick of me saying it but i was a new yorker and the fdny has given her thier endorsement.. why not walk to your local department with that. don’t have to say a word just something you should read. These guyus sit in the local bars and have a huge influence,

  161. OMG! Admin- that is too funny!

    Where can we get that waffle O logo? Thats the best! T-shirts, buttons, I love it.

    BTW- forget the syrup. Try slathering on tons and tons of butter to try to dispel the finicky organic food eating latte liberal image- then get so grossed out by it that you dont even finish it. HA. Reminds me of when he visited Hershey PA and wouldn’t eat any chocolate during a tour of the factory. What normal person doesn’t eat CHOCOLATE when touring a chocolate factory?

  162. winhillary:

    So how in the hell does Roland Martin and Donna Brazile get all the airtime they want to push BHO, and Begala and Carville don’t, and are banned. Unbelievable that this double standard has been allowed to go on for so long with no end in sight. FOUL!

  163. henry-
    dont stop posting that! its a great story and very true and should be copied in all the upcoming states. We get new readers on here every day.

  164. You know what, I’ve seen many places today now starting to trumpet the fact that if this had been Clinton vs Obama in the GE and not primaries, Clinton would be in the WH now due to the states she’s won.

    Keep pushing this, If this was Electoral votes, she wins.

  165. Arizona – 10 (Clinton )
    Arkansas – 6 (Clinton )
    California – 55 (Clinton )
    Florida – 27 (Clinton )
    Massachusetts – 12 (Clinton )
    Michigan – 17 (Clinton )
    New Hampshire – 4 (Clinton )
    New Jersey – 15 (Clinton )
    New Mexico – 5 (Clinton )
    New York – 31 (Clinton )
    Ohio – 20 (Clinton )
    Oklahoma – 7 (Clinton )
    Pennsylvania – 21 (Clinton )
    Rhode Island – 4 (Clinton )
    Tennessee – 11 (Clinton )
    Texas – 34 (Clinton )
    277 Electoral votes For Clinton.

  166. It’s ludicrous, curiosityhasme. It’s insane that Begala and Carville are “banned.” Gloria Borger might as well just be fellating Obama live and on camera, every night on CNN. It’s embarrassing how badly CNN fawns over BHO.

  167. Ronald
    cannot seem to find the official nyfd endorsement online. I think it speaks volumes firefighters are considered mens men and ny firefighters are an extreme. I had the endorsement i distributed it but i have searched everywhere on line buty cannot find official endorsement.

  168. Republican pollster Whit Ayres conducted four focus groups among blue-collar whites in Michigan and Missouri show “they are open to voting for Hillary Clinton, but there’s no way in hell they are going for Obama. It’s cultural.

    “They just don’t think he’s a patriotic American. It’s the flag pin, his church, his wife’s statement that most Americans are ‘mean.’ As one woman said in one of these groups, ‘I don’t think he bleeds red, white and blue.’”

    Ayres also polled Tennessee — a GOP-leaning state — for Sen. Lamar Alexander (R) and found that Clinton would lose to McCain by 8 points, but that Obama would lose by 20 points. Twenty-five percent of Democrats said they would not vote for Obama. . . .

    Also a major point to notice is if you look at the states the Democrats have to win in November. If we say, for the sake of argument, that a winning Democrat strategy would keep the same states won in 2004 and add Ohio, Florida and Utah, let’s see who won those states in the primary:

    STATE – Electoral Votes (Primary Election Winner)

    Connecticut – 7 (Obama )
    Delaware – 3 (Obama )
    District Of Columbia – 3 (Obama )
    Illinois – 21 (Obama )
    Maryland – 10 (Obama )
    Vermont – 3 (Obama )
    Wisconsin – 10 (Obama )
    Hawaii – 4 (Obama )
    Kansas – 6 (Obama )
    Maine – 4 (Obama )
    Minnesota – 10 (Obama )
    Washington – 11 (Obama )

    Arkansas – 6 (Clinton )
    California – 55 (Clinton )
    Florida – 27 (Clinton )
    Massachusetts – 12 (Clinton )
    Michigan – 17 (Clinton )
    New Hampshire – 4 (Clinton )
    New Jersey – 15 (Clinton )
    New Mexico – 5 (Clinton )
    New York – 31 (Clinton )
    Ohio – 20 (Clinton )
    Pennsylvania – 21 (Clinton )
    Rhode Island – 4 (Clinton )

    92 Electoral Votes for Obama
    217 Primary Electoral votes For Clinton.

    Clinton has done much better in the states that the Democrats have to win and a lot of Obama’s success has come in states that will be going Republican in the Fall.

    The superdelegates are going to have to decide if they want to win enough to risk the wrath of the African American community by snubbing Obama to hand the nomination to Clinton. They can’t win with Obama.

  169. We’ve received some emails questioning our statement that the North Carolina Republican Party will air ads attacking Democrats on the basis of Obama/Wright.

    Below is the official word from the North Carolina Republican Party making it clear that the ads WILL be aired next week.

    ———————————————

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Thursday, April 24, 2008

    Contact: Brent Woodcox, Communications Director, 919-828-6423

    NCGOP CHAIRMAN SAYS “EXTREME” AD WILL RUN

    RALEIGH—North Carolina Republican Party Chairman Linda Daves made the following statement:

    “Contrary to any media reports, the ‘Extreme’ ad will run as scheduled next week. There has never been any intention to pull the ad and it will air.

    The ‘Extreme’ ad has garnered attention around the country. I want to thank the people across North Carolina and across the country who have shown overwhelming support for us. Our aim is to tell the truth and ask difficult questions. We will continue to do so.

    People here in North Carolina should know that this ad is focused on Democrats Richard Moore and Beverly Perdue. By endorsing Barack Obama, they allied themselves with the most liberal person in the United States Senate. He is a candidate out of touch with the voters of North Carolina who does not share the values of North Carolinians. By refusing to stand up and rightfully denounce the statements made by his controversial former associates, Perdue and Moore are giving us the impression that they share these extreme views. The voters of North Carolina should be allowed to ask a legitimate question of candidates in North Carolina. Who do you choose to associate yourself with and how does that reflect on your judgment? It is true that your character is proven by the company you keep. Those who step forward to run for the highest post in North Carolina must show the best judgment. Perdue and Moore have shown poor judgment in their associations and the voters of North Carolina rightly question their actions and their continued silence.

    Democrats in North Carolina are trying to inject race into this ad. This tactic, designed to further drive a wedge between the people of North Carolina, is despicable and wrong. This ad has absolutely nothing to do with race. It is completely factual and contains no information that has already received a public airing. Let me be perfectly clear: It is entirely inappropriate for voters to consider race when judging the quality of a candidate running for any office. If Senator Clinton had a pastor who made these same anti-American statements and the Democrat candidates for Governor endorsed her, we would be running the same ad.

    Finally, I want to say that the North Carolina Republican Party has had and will continue to have a great working relationship with the RNC. We are entirely in support of John McCain for President. I have great respect and admiration for Senator McCain. He will be a great President when he is elected in November. As State Party Chairman, I serve in a dual role. Not only do I support our party’s candidate for President of the United States, I also have a duty to see that Republicans are elected across the state of North Carolina. This ad opposes two Democrat candidates for Governor in North Carolina. It poses a legitimate question about judgment for which the people of North Carolina deserve an answer.”

    ###

  170. Hacker Redirects Obama Web Site Viewers to Clinton’s Page
    by Associated Press
    Thursday, April 24, 2008

    A simple flaw in the coding of Sen. Barack Obama’s Web site led to a hacking switcheroo of presidential proportions just days before the important Pennsylvania primary.

    Some supporters who tried to visit the community blogs section of Obama’s site started noticing late last week they were being redirected to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s official campaign site.

    Security researchers said a hacker exploited a so-called “cross-site scripting” vulnerability in Obama’s Web site to engineer the ruse.

    Netcraft Ltd. said the hacker injected code into certain pages in the section — code that was then executed when subsequent visitors tried to view the community blogs section. The vulnerability has since been fixed.

    While the hack appears to have been a prank, researchers said the breach underscored that candidates risk exposing their supporters to computer viruses and identity theft if they don’t secure their Web sites. For instance, a similar mechanism could be employed to redirect campaign site users to a site that steals personal information from visitors.

    “With people closely watching the heated contest to determine the next U.S. president, you can bet that this won’t be the last time such attacks happen,” Symantec Corp. researcher Zulfikar Ramzan wrote on the company’s official blog.

    Neither campaign responded to e-mail messages seeking comment.

    The community blogs feature is working normally again this week. The link that took visitors to Clinton’s site now directs visitors to the appropriate page, which is populated with blog postings from Obama supporters around the country.

    elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/24/hacker-redirects-obama-web-site-viewers-to-clintons-page/

    I wonder how many people will keep donating to Obama when they find out their information is not secure?????

  171. I think seriously a lot of SD’s want to see the primaries finish and have all the information, if I suspect as it turns out, the information shows that Obama has no coalition and Hillary is the one with the broad coalition to win, thats their excuse, if the full information points to the fact he cannot win the normal democratic vote and we know it does then they will go with Hillary big time.

    they are walking a fine line, they need to have a full concrete excuse or be deemed racist.

  172. rjk1957, its called playing Obama at his own game, i’m sure there a lot of great Clinton supporters that can hack websites, what goes around comes around. 2 can play that game.

  173. lou dobbs my hero!

    BTW .. just got a firm offer today on my house !!!! Woot, woot.

    So Hillary has 100,000 new donors .. WOW

    SHE IS THE ONE THE PEOPLE WANT .. SHE IS THE PEOPLES CHAMPION

    Someone have garin’s email .. I’d like to float that she start using that “I’m the peoples champion” .. that sounds so wonderful and fits her to a T…she really is. Look at the work she’s done and the changes she has gotten done. How, oh how can the party be so stupid to not revel in this woman and embrace her. I just don’t get it. Finally, a candidate who the people love .. regardless of what the twisted media trys to skew her negatives .. something funny, for someone who is so hated she sure is bringing in the votes!!!

  174. SD’s need to watch 60 minutes.

    Justice Scalia: No apologies for Bush v. Gore

    cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=7545931

    Let them rememberthat the winner of the popular vote had the election stolen from him and it should not happen again.

  175. I think it’s great that the RNC is calling those out who support Obama. By endorsing him, they put their seal of approval on the company he keeps. Yes, guilt by association. Sorry, that’s just the way politics work. Get used to it. The SD better get used to it to, because “we, the people” do not forget. And we are the ones who vote.

  176. I hear that Obama has been in Chicago trying to drum up union activists to work for him in Indiana, Wv and KY … sorry Obama .. they haven’t helped you so far! Your message now that you have been forced down to the real earth isn’t reaching people…except your niche group.

    Obama .. time for the party to show him the door!

  177. HRC Campaign objects to ad being run and calls it “outrageous”. That’s fine that she denounces. Just as long as they keep running it.

  178. Day OFF MY ASS!!

    thepage.time.com/2008/04/24/obama-woos-union-activists-on-day-off/

    Obama Woos Union Activists on Day Off
    Speaks to the annual convention of the United Food and Commercial Workers union, which has already endorsed him, while home in Chicago Thursday with no scheduled public campaign events.

    Tries to rally the union vote — a critical part of neighboring Indiana’s electorate, which heads to the polls May 6.

  179. You know what I’m finding. Hillary’s “toughness” has become a great asset. The country is tanking and people know we don’t need a lightweight, one who hasn’t been tested and one who wilts at first blast of heat.

    Hillary showing she can take it and keep standing and keep fighting is helping her. She’s showing that she cares for the people in the plans she is laying out and she is showing that she’ll fight for whats right. She’ll fight for the people and they are listening.

    The media tried their best to paint her as shrill, hateful and mean .. it hasn’t worked — the REAL Hillary has come through and people love her.

  180. dot48:

    Bho trying to drum up union activist? Or paid thugs (Big Macs Supersized) to act as union activists? No telling what “Chicago Combine” tactics he has up his sleeve. Need to check Andy Martin’s site to see what’s up today in the windy city.

  181. yep good she dounced it, just like mc cain did …….it can’t come back and bite either of them now (well it would be nice to bite mc cain ) 😀

  182. Is it just me or has the narrative completely changed overnight? Either it is April Fools day a few weeks late or the media is jumping off Obama’s bandwagon.

  183. I’m not sure it helps her, that ad. I don’t condone it.

    Are you all watching Dobbs? They are saying she is damaging him enough for the GE but can she take the nom from him? WTH? Excuse voters for preferring her.

  184. Hi all,

    New diary up at mydd, cross-posted from SavagePolitics ,altho not avail there yet.

    It is titled CLASSISM. And I nail the Obama campaign for it. I also show how without the white working class, no democratic candidate has been able to win to win the Presidency. Please go and comment and recommend it please.

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/24/193334/383

  185. anyone watching tweety??

    its a OMG!!! truly a 180!! they are discussing wrights interview………tweety said wright is obama’s Iraq!

  186. Greetings, Fellow Clintonistas!

    I have had a thought. Whenever you write about Pennsylvania, I encourage you to use the phrase, “Obama’s humiliating loss.” I think it will be useful to let the three words meld together across the whole of the Democratic blogosphere.

  187. damn .. has tweety seen “the light”?

    Perhaps it was Obama’s humiliating loss in Pa.

    Now he’s in chicago most likely trying to put out more rezco fire and covering with a speech to the union.

    Who takes time off in the middle of two important primaries .. he comes across like Bush at the Western White House.

  188. Why is Obama NOW wanting to float a new vote in Michigan and Florida ????

    She’s already floated THAT deal and he wouldn’t take it. Where have they been? She had people ready to pay for both.

  189. I thought you all said tweety had changed? I flipped over for one minute and he’s floating a new vote in Mi and FL .. Hillary tried that and the OBAMA camp stopped it.

  190. Maybe, the vote in MI is being floated, because of the story about the Clinton rounding up the delegates?

  191. dot i did say that, and i think it he’s helping hillary with getting a revote…..i see that as positive

  192. admin: That is great news. I understand that Senator Obama has gone home to Chicago to rest and recuperate after his humiliating loss in Pennsylvania.

  193. 100,000 Donors since Obama’s most expensive campaigning seems to be a buyer’s remorse!

    Remember Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island where Obama 4:1 outspent Hillary and still lost!

  194. justmeinmountdorafl: Obama spends all this money just to suffering one humiliating loss after another. It’s embarrassing. Absolutely embarrassing.

  195. did you all see that!!

    i dont know the lady’s name , but she was just talking to bill o about ayers and obama
    and she blurted out “bill… if you ever get that chance to talk to obama i want you to ask him about jody evans
    code pink campaign finance bundler!! ” before she was cut off by bill o who said i promise you we will be getting into all that between now and november!!!!

  196. The Obama campaign is getting absolutely SCHOOLED in these MI & FL negotiations. Talk about incompetence! It’s like watching a first-time car buyer wander into the showroom, without a care or a clue as to what to do.

  197. My post from yesterday came after a new thread came up, so if you overlooked it…this is a good one.

    COUNTING ALL THE FRIKKIN VOTES:

    blogs.cqpolitics.com/beyond/2008/04/malleable-delegate-math.html

    (The above site has some of the words as hypertext links to other urls, but for your convenience…

    Malleable Campaign Math
    By David Nather | April 23, 2008 11:53 AM | Permalink | Comments (1)

    Did Hillary Rodham Clinton really pass Barack Obama in the popular vote last night, as her campaign is claiming this morning? It depends whether you count Florida and Michigan – the two most hotly disputed states in the Democratic contest.

    This morning, the Clinton campaign sent out an e-mail titled, “The Tide is Turning – More People Have Voted for Hillary Than Any Other Candidate.” It cited an estimate by the Real Clear Politics Web site that “Hillary has received 15,095,663 votes to Sen. Obama’s 14,973,720, a margin of more than 120,000 votes,” and an ABC News report that ” ‘Clinton has pulled ahead of Obama’ in the popular vote.”

    Then comes the critical disclaimer: “This count includes certified vote totals in Florida and Michigan” – the two states that, at the moment, aren’t scheduled to be seated at the Democratic convention in Denver because they held their primaries earlier than the party rules allowed.

  198. TM: Hillary READS this site; maybe not every day, after all she’s a bit busy. However, trust me, she does read it.

    talking about TM site………

    SO ADMIN…… does she read this site too?????????????????????????????????

  199. HillaryforTexas,

    HERE IS THE PROVE THAT ROLAND MARTIN IS A BIG TIME SUPPORTER FOR OBAMA! CHECK THIS SITE OUT! I EMAILED HIM AND ASKED IF HE WAS THE SAME GUY ON CNN AND HE WROTE BACK YES! I GOT HIM BACK BECAUSE I EMAILD TELLING HIM THAT I HAD LOTS OF MONEY FOR OBAMA, LOL HE EMAILED ME PRONTO! HA!

    my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/communityservice/4rgr5

  200. newsbusters.org/taxonomy/term/549
    use htt p only
    oh now his blogger on his site .you know that sam guy that always starts the threads ..hmmm.things are coming out
    slow but sure…

  201. This is what it said on Obamas site with Roland Martin

    “Help us keep the heat on Hillary and her lies. Help us keep the Rev. Wright fiasco at bay. Roland has been a true Barack advocate. Let’s keep him with plenty of honest, real, and forthright opinions and materials”.

  202. dijia,

    He did confirm it to me online that he was the one on cnn, so I’m going to question that on his radio when I can. I just knew it! That guy will say anything for Obama! Well one thing everyone we need a usa today poll NOW because these hole in the wall polling sites are coming out to destroy her lead in Indiana, so i hope they get on it!

  203. dija .. excellent idea!!!

    Well it looks to me like I sold my house .. yippee!!!! (prays they can get the loan)

  204. Admin — GREAT work, as usual. I’m going through all the comments right now but wanted to say something as I read.

    A number of you probably got the HRC fundraising email today. It is by far the best one I have received, it is well-done and the video which came with it was excellent. I let the campaign know this is how I felt, too, along with sending another donation.

    We have the momentum, and with the NC GOP helping us by running the Wright and other ads, we need to help HRC by continuing to press our advantage and donating as much as we are able. If she is in a position to run ads in NC, combined with the PA bounce and the GOP’s tactics, things could tighten up considerably in the state. This is what we need to do while concurrently working the heck out of IN.

    We are in a real, legitimate to win this nomination. We know it, Hillary and her camp know it, and the Obama-rooting media and his supporters know it. It is
    time to go for the knockout blow now, with everything we have. The 10 million she raised in one day was fantastic, but she had 10 million in debt and so she needs more. Let’s give it to her.

    Barack and his regressive forces of race-baiters anonymous are on the run. For the good of our party and of our country, let’s finish them and their despicable, divisive Axelrodian methods off while we still can.

    Please, donate today:

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/home/
    (Click on the “Contribute” button)

    The long, unfair road we and all women in this country have been forced to travel can be ready to end once and for all if we will only help our candidate now, when she needs it most and has the opportunity to defeat the “Glass-Ceiling Posse” led by Obama, Chris Matthews and many other in the media and in Obama’s cultish clique.

    Act now. Help Hillary pad her popular vote lead and minimize any setback she may suffer in NC. Together, we are and Yes, We Will do this!

    Paul F. Villarreal AKA “Universal” AKA “RokSki”

    *thumbs up* 🙂

  205. yes i understand that winhill

    but did he confirm that he was the one that posted his email on that blog for obama??

    did he consent to someone else putting it there?

    did he approve of the statements on that blog in reference to himself??

  206. Newest polls in Indiana show him slightly up which is disturbing…I thought that was going to be hers for the taking after the PA victory.
    An article I just read on RCP says no matter what , party elders are going with BO b/c of tremendous money he brings in and new voters. They have abandoned Clinton, and they point to a guy like Sam Nunn who should be in her corner, but went for BO. I think the money is the big issue, the fear of losing AA votes in the future, and the disloyal former Clinton appointees who seemingly are paying him back for the Lewisnsky bullshit. I really can’t understand how anyone, now that BO has been exposed as just another politician, could vote for him other than AA’s and the dailykos crowd….and that should not be enough to allow him to win all these states….very frustrating.

  207. great ideas on the shirts…..keep em coming!!

    I have been compiling them into a email i plan to send to the campaign 😀

  208. At 9pm tonight, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tells Larry King she doesn’t think Clinton and Obama should run together.

  209. we all need to just forget the polls
    from now until the end of this polls will be pouring in most likely showing BO leading
    But if there is one thing we’ve learned is polls are simply WRONG
    PA was supposed to be a tie in the last week
    OH was supposed to be a single digit victory
    and well NH…we all know what happened there.

    Forget the Polls

  210. # djia Says:

    TM: Hillary READS this site; maybe not every day, after all she’s a bit busy. However, trust me, she does read it.

    talking about TM site………SO ADMIN…… does she read this site too ?????????????????????????????????

    Maybe she posts too.
    Maybe “rgb44hrc” is her?

  211. It is obviously Obama week at CNN with another Clinton hater, Pelosi, on tonight. She is the worst SOH in history. To think I was proud of her as a woman who got the title, and know she has the unmitigated nerve to try and shut down Hillary.

  212. # dot48 Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    I agree Nancy .. Obama doesn’t need to be anywhere near the white house.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    I think it would be a very unifying gesture for him to attend her inauguration ceremony.

  213. rgb44hrc Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    # djia Says:

    TM: Hillary READS this site; maybe not every day, after all she’s a bit busy. However, trust me, she does read it.

    talking about TM site………SO ADMIN…… does she read this site too ?????????????????????????????????

    Maybe she posts too.
    Maybe “rgb44hrc” is her?……………. well then you’re good at being in two places at one time 😉

  214. djia,

    Well it was on Obamas site, but maybe not, I again will ask him on his radio show, and ask to confirm his email. I do really believe that this is Roland Martin cnn guy. I asked him with the email he gave me and he replied that he was the one that worked for CNN.

  215. I am not saying that doesn’t mean it isn’t his real email addy and that isn’t him, i am sure it is……but anyone could put his email on that site……

  216. Indiana needs a usa today poll quick! That will bring up her average, but remember guys she is still ahead of him in Indiana!

  217. GOP in Washington state attacking the Dem governor for supporting Obama with those ads. Might start a trend of putting a little fear into some of these fools that have endorsed Obama, like governors, senators and congressmen up for re-election

  218. They accuse Hillary of destroying the party, yet, Kennedy caused carters defeat, and we had 8 yrs of one of the worst Presidents since Jimmy Carter..lol

  219. these ads speak more to the SD right now than anything else…. it doesn’t matter what state they run in, just that they are running and are a vision of the GE

  220. dot……..i knew hannity was going to be good….i listened to him today on the air playing clips of ayers more recent stuff

  221. obama won’t just loose the GE himself…….he will also cause other Dems to loose their state seats and US seats as well

    that has got to speak very LOUDLY to the Dem party leaders

  222. Hannity quizzed the Obama supporter about Big Dog’s quote about the race card, and then asked the Obama supporter about Obama’s bitter statement, and about Obama’s church…

  223. Kennedy had nothing to do with the Iranian hostage crisis and Mr Diplomat Jimmy Carter not getting them released or rescued had more to do with his defeat than a drawn out convention fight.

  224. curiosityhasme @ 654. Thanks for rundown, more than I ever knew. Another major thing to add to the list of media ‘oversights”.
    Unreal. Gonna check out Rezkowatch for those pages. Just unreal.

    How could I of all people not know this! I mean, I obviously knew they’d seen a bombastic sermon or two, bordering on being militant but a front? Wow.

    Whoever has that Roland Martin thing (WinHillary?), nice work.
    Should send that to Halperin & Hannity.
    let them out him, if they have the stones..

  225. here we go again with jbstone’s negativity… it’s BO’s week, party elders going for BO… why oh why boo hoo..

    Then I go on Taylor Marsh’s comment section and a real Hillary supporter says:

    “Oh yeah, big time. Tweety’s bored. He basically said he’s tired of Obama’s speeches and that the Illinois Senator needs a new campaign shtick.
    Hillary’s driving the storyline and narrative now–did you guys finally feel it today–in print and on TV?”

  226. During the April 22 edition of MSNBC Live, guest host David Shuster said to senior campaign correspondent Tucker Carlson: “Before we get to predictions, Tucker, I want to present you … It’s a pen. It’s ‘Jabber Jaw Pens.’ And when you listen to it here.” At this point, Shuster pressed the top of the pen — a likeness of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s head — and the mouth began to move as the pen began audibly laughing. After the pen stopped, Shuster continued: “[I]n honor of being on the air with you for the first time in a little while, I present to you with a Hillary laughing pen.” In response, Carlson stated: “I can’t tell you, David, how much I appreciate this, how much I appreciate your going through Chris’ mail while he’s gone and how much I’m really going to miss that cackle. I hope it goes on forever. It’s brought light to my life.” Carlson also pressed the pen.

    Shuster then said: “As we — to the refrain of Hillary cackling, let’s start with predictions tonight. What’s going to happen?”

  227. I posted this at mydd about Linfar’s story about Classism: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/24/193334/383.

    “I’m from a working class family and did not have the opportunity to go to Princeton, Harvard or Yale because I had to go out on my own and start working at 16 to stay alive.

    I’ve educated myself by reading everything I can get my hands on and tried to have a great life in spite of the economic “handicap” I’ve had.

    I never realized the depth of disdain for people like myself within the far left of the democratic party until this election cycle. I feel like there are those in the party that think I should feel shame for my status in life.

    It astounds me that the supposed party of inclusion is trying with all it’s might to foist folks like me out of that party.

    Hillary and Bill get it. Hillary is not continuing this fight because she’s some power-hungry bitch determined to take down the party… just the opposite.

    Hillary Clinton is fighting for the very soul of the Democratic Party. It is time that this message gets out there.”

  228. does anyone else think the obamabots (surrogates) act the way republicans do, talking faster, louder over anyone else?

    gosh this is so reminiscent of 2000, & 2004 and to think it’s inside the democrat party!!!

    lord what has happened to us?

  229. There’s a little bit of everything in here, most notably that BO intends to call NC a ‘battleground’, even though it’s another Red State.
    From Politico;

    Obama won’t change game plan after loss
    By: Ben Smith
    April 24, 2008 06:53 PM EST

    Barack Obama casts himself as the candidate of change, but his campaign strategy going forward is the opposite: more of the same.

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton shuffled slogans, staff and tactics in the wake of her primary losses. But Obama and his advisers, after a third major primary defeat in two months, say they are sticking with the game plan that brought him this far.

    “The way we are going to close the deal is by winning,” Obama told reporters in New Albany, Ind., on Wednesday, one day after losing Pennsylvania to Clinton by 9 percentage points. “And right now, we are winning.”

    Obama’s aides said, on and off the record, that Obama would keep doing what he’s been doing: campaigning with the aim of running up big margins on friendly turf and limiting his losses where Clinton is strong.

    And they said to expect no tweaks to his campaign style of speeches full of hope and attacks on Washington’s status quo, expensive field and television campaigns, and direct mail attacks on Clinton’s trustworthiness and policies. They also stressed the importance of the largest remaining state, North Carolina, as a test of both candidates.

    His aides also directly dismissed concerns that his relative weakness among working-class white voters — a constant since at least February — should cause superdelegates to doubt his viability in November.

    “The white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, going back even to the Clinton years. This is not new that Democratic candidates don’t rely solely on those votes,” his chief strategist, David Axelrod, told National Public Radio.

    “The vast majority of these Democrats are going to come home,” said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, saying the question is who would pull younger, independent-leaning Republicans away from Arizona Sen. John McCain.

    The spin drew a sharp rejoinder from former President Bill Clinton, whose narrow pluralities among working-class white voters were key to his victories, according to leading Democratic analysts.

    “Today her opponent’s campaign strategist said, ‘Well, we don’t really need these working class people to win. Half the time they vote for Republicans anyways,'” the former president said while speaking from a flatbed truck on a baseball field in Hillsborough, N.C. “I will tell you something — America needs you to win, and therefore Hillary wants your support.”

    Obama’s decision not to engage the argument over white working-class voters — or to present a strategy for improvement — indicates they don’t believe undecided superdelegates are buying Clinton’s arguments.

    And there is no evidence that they are. Wednesday, the candidates announced the endorsements of three superdelegates with working-class white constituents: Obama won the support of Oklahoma Gov. Brad Henry and a Democratic national committeewoman from Nebraska while Clinton won the support of Tennessee Rep. John Tanner.

    Clinton’s campaign has sought to focus attention on the contest in Indiana, considered favorable demographic terrain for her despite a proximity to Obama’s hometown of Chicago and his strong organization. There, too, Obama’s backers hope he’ll run strong.

    “The Obama camp was the only one that focused on new registration,” Evansville Mayor Jonathan Weinzapfel told Politico. “They brought in the lion’s share, if not all” of about 3,600 new registrations in his county.

    But Plouffe said North Carolina would be a key test of the candidates, an argument that sets Obama up to declare an overall victory on May 6 — when he is likely to win more delegates and more votes on the day — and downplay Indiana as a definitive contest.

    “North Carolina is a big battleground state with 15 electoral votes,” Plouffe said. “By [the Clinton campaign’s] own definition, it would appear they need to win North Carolina.”

    Plouffe also sought to downplay Obama’s weakness in the industrial Midwest by suggesting that he can put an unorthodox set of states into play against McCain — Virginia, Iowa, Missouri and Georgia —though it may not give comfort to Democrats who think the race will be fought in the traditional battlegrounds of Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan.

    For Obama, a change of strategy might prove a dangerous distraction and a sign of weakness when he’s focused on projecting a winner’s strength. What’s more, some Democrats noted, Obama hasn’t lost support within demographic groups over the course of the primary and has his highest-ever standing against Clinton in national polls.

    “His positive message has proved durable and powerful,” said Bob Shrum, the top adviser to John Kerry in 2004.

  230. It’s unreal Filbertsf.

    and not a word from the campaign today about Olbermann’s on-air suggestion that a superdelegate off Hill.

    Like so much, I do not understand this – and never will.

  231. I really think that the campaign should go after Olgerman and his comments about having Hillary killed as well. This is despicable .. perhaps the campaign is gonna hit him hard just at the right time. Maybe that is why msnbc is turning .. they know Hillary has this on tape???

  232. From previous thread….

    mj Says:
    April 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Let’s really do this. A people’s campaign. Let’s through bake sales, and car washes, collect coins, recycle soda cans. Let’s raise money for Hill, and show the media just who the hell we want the next president to be!

    I LOVE THIS IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  233. Promising rundown on popular vote battle from Michael Barone,
    of all people.

    “… .. Even so, Clinton now leads in the popular vote, if you include the Florida and Michigan results, by 121,943 votes. And even if you include the imputed totals for the Iowa, Nevada, Washington, and Maine caucuses, she’s ahead by 11,721 votes. It seems to me that this provides the Clinton campaign with an important talking point, though one they’re probably reluctant to use over the next two weeks. Reluctant, because the likely Obama victory in North Carolina could erase this popular-vote lead, and) an offsetting Clinton margin in Indiana seems unlikely (or at least risky to project from current polling). But looking ahead from May 6, Clinton is likely to regain that popular-vote lead (including Florida and Michigan) and quite possibly could gain a popular-vote lead counting just Florida and not the more problematic (because Obama was not on the ballot there) Michigan. She’ll get big margins in West Virginia on May 13 and Kentucky on May 20, and it’s not clear Obama will get a big margin in Oregon on May 20; Obama won the nonbinding February 19 primary in Washington only narrowly. If Clinton wins big in Puerto Rico on June 1, as the one poll I’ve seen there suggests, that will far outshadow in popular votes any Obama margins in South Dakota and Montana on June 3. … ..

  234. I read about KO’s off-Hillary comment, Blue. It’s actually worse than Shuster’s “pimping out” remark. It’s advocating violence against a former First Lady and our next President.

    The only person who express contempt for the comment was Salon’s Joan Walsh. Not a peep in the so-called progressive blogosphere.

  235. DOT,
    “Maybe that is why msnbc is turning”

    If you saw Countdown, you know KO was as humongous a dick as ever.

  236. wow she was great in nc on the stump she hit very well on the issues betetr than pa..i listen to the stream and she has 1,000 outside and she will go out after to meet them…little Hillary but from celbrating she seems so happy..but geez she goes and goes and she wont ever stop for us
    shell get some sleep tonight..after this speech

  237. I know olberman was going for the ‘offensive’ moment with that comment…but really to me the issue is more of irresponsible journalism. Based on that he should be fired.

  238. Another lying prick who calls himself a congressman (and a reverend/minister? I know his dad was one…)

    WASHINGTON – “Scurrilous” and “disingenuous” were among the words a top Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives used on Thursday to describe Hillary Clinton’s campaign tactics in her bid to defeat Barack Obama for their party’s presidential nomination.

    House Democratic Whip James Clyburn, of South Carolina and the highest ranking black in Congress, also said he has heard speculation that Clinton is staying in the race only to try to derail Obama and pave the way for her to make another White House run in 2012.

    rtr1w3w5.jpg“I heard something, the first time yesterday (in South Carolina), and I heard it on the (House) floor today, which is telling me there are African Americans who have reached the decision that the Clintons know that she can’t win this. But they’re hell-bound to make it impossible for Obama to win” in November, Clyburn told Reuters in an interview.

  239. dot48, the reason I think Hillary’s campaign has not struck back hard against the MSM is b/c of Hillary’s philosophy: never attack people who buy ink in bulk. The MSM is like Medusa – cut off one head and another one – more vicious – sprouts up.

    Another reason is Hillary’s Truman quote. They’ll use it against her if she goes after the press.

    Now I understand why Fox News became what it is. NeoCon/Conservative needed a safe haven from all the negativity of people like Ogerman.

    I may not like Fox News or understand the mentality of pro-Bush/Iraq people, but I do get why they cling to Fox.

  240. i dont trust that n.pelosi something bothers me about her..is it lying i see..why they all lie…i cant stand it..

  241. nah, olgerman actually has a teeny weeny dick. I read some chicks encounter with him and she was NOT impressed. You know it seems that olgerman and morris have something in common, little pricks,

  242. On the polls:

    It will take a few days to see the Pennsylvania victory and Obama’s humiliating loss reflected in the polls.

    In Oregon Hillary is behind by about 10 due to a 15 point deficit in rural areas.

    Hillary has already called for 2 debates in Oregon with one of them to focus on rural areas.

    As we wrote at the time, Nevada was never really about Nevada. Nevada was about figuring out a way to reach latino voters. The object was not so much Nevada but the latino vote in Florida and California and New Jersey and other Latino heavy states.

    Likewise, Pennsylvania was about finding a way to communicate with rural voters. That mission was accomplished. Hillary now has the key to winning the rural vote in all the upcoming states. The polls will remain irrelevant for a least a week until the Pennsylvania victory and the renewed interest in Wright sinks in.

    2 last points – the accusations that Hillary voters voted for her because they are racist will keep rural white voters from saying they are for Hillary to pollsters. Expect large “undecided” numbers in polls from now on. They will be Hillary voters who don’t want to be labeled racist, and like most undecideds this cycle, they will vote for Hillary on election day.

    The renewed Wright controversy might also impact the African-American vote. African-Americans who don’t like what Wright said might choose to stay home.

    And if the GOP ramps up advertising against local Dems (as we wrote about today) this will impact the open primaries too.

  243. curiosityhasme, KO made the comment yesterday. KO suggested that an SD take Hillary into a room and only the SD would come out.

    If KO wasn’t suggesting violence, then perhaps he’s insinuating the SD is gay and ready to face the world.

    Okay. Bad joke.

  244. If Nancy’s lips are moving, she is lying. Look at all the lies she told in her “First 100 Days” .. someone reminded me today that it included getting these oil prices under control.

    Really, what has she gotten done?? NOTHING

  245. wright on greta again, bo cant escape him never the american people doesnt want a wrong..
    we want a right one Hillary 08

  246. sorry but i think i would take pelosi over sheehan. her loss is tremendous but i don’t think it qualifies her for a senate seat.

  247. why is Greta covering that girls fighting? Every friggin’ night, that obscene video is shown.

    Hillbilly: Sheehan is a nut.

  248. Sheehan hates Hillary. She doesn’t have a chance in Obama Hell of winning, but if she did, it’ll be like replacing Pelosi with her hyper-sensitive, extremist cousin.

  249. Sheehan didn’t qualify, but there is another dem candidate Shirley Golub

    it’s for the 8th representative district in CA

  250. your right dot she is lying and hasnt done nothing she has a day job she said..well the day job set around and look pretty and all smiles with some lies…100 days oh uhh uhhh lying

  251. keep hearing axelrod claiming that we will get behind bambi if he is nominee
    hahahahahaha.
    i doubt the man has any concept of how hard so many have worked and what they have sacrificed. unless hill is on the top of the ticket i am voting mccain.

  252. I don’t like Sheehan either, but I thought that was interesting that she was running for Pelosi’s seat. Come on, Nancy, time to switch sides.

    Hillary: Come with me if you want to live!

  253. why is Greta covering that girls fighting? Every friggin’ night, that obscene video is shown.
    she needs to quit showing it…all it does is getting more to do it and post on YT..

  254. I don’t dislike Sheehan I just doubt she is in anyway prepared to be a senator. Once upon a time in a land called make believe I also had nothing against a junior senator from illinois, but then the true colors emerged

  255. filberts,
    I know about attacking the media. The flip side is there are few institutions in this country less popular than Congress, and they’re one of them. Plus, they’ve been incredibly damaging to her campaign.
    Plus they couldn’t possibly blast or minimize Hill much more; I needn’t cite the evidence, we already have.
    Plus, there is the spector of potentially having to govern with this type of coverage for 8 years. Plus, it’d feel very very good.
    Plus, what they’ve been doing is so wrong.

    I nkow you know most/all of this. it just feels better to vent sometimes…

  256. Henry, I hate to tell you that Pelosi is very popular in SF. Marin women very proud of one of their own. She’ll be re-elected time and time again.

  257. roland martin dispatched to cnn tonight to squash wright but failed against tony perkins LOL

    roland made mention that wright will be the talk for the next 5-7 days and that isn’t what obama needs right now
    he needs to stay on message and that is what we should be covering instead……LOL!!

    poor bambi

  258. I agree, CJ. It seems like Greta got on someone’s shit list and they are giving her this bs to cover. Honestly, most news organizations would never cover this crap because they know that it only makes more people do it. Then they post it on youtube.

  259. blue, do doubt the media has been Hillary’s chief rival. If she had the same coverage as BO — or at least fair coverage — she’d be the frontrunner. People blame Hillary for the negativity… it’s actually the MSM who have been the most negative in their coverage of anyone not named Obama.

  260. filbersf
    and everyone even hill hater know how bad the left press has been to her. in fact i know lots of die hard repubs who despised her that have gained a lot of respect

  261. I remember a time when KO was must-see TV. Now, I avoid him like BO avoids Rezko questions. It’s like the Twilight Zone.

  262. hillbillylover
    wondered what i wrote that made you laugh as i am reading and getting caught up and i gotta say on that one i am lmao.(and i have never typed that abb before)

  263. rjk1957 Says:

    April 24th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
    MSNBC executives and Oberman may have had a visit from the Secret Service.

    Where did you read/see this info?

  264. Ok, just so you all know, if the RNC runs that Wright video in Southern Washington, it will be picked up in Portland, Beaverton, Salem, etc, so it will have some effect. It will probably also piss off a whole lot of AA’s there so will probably also serve as a GOTV to some degree.

    Also, expect the polling to be really off in regard to Hillary’s numbers in Oregon. There is a lot of vitriol for the Clinton’s here in Oregon among republicans due to the strength of talk radio. We don’t even really have progressive talk radio, at least in Southern Oregon, just the right-wing kind.

    Women voting for Hillary may be very reluctant to tell anyone in many parts of Oregon, especially southern Oregon where I live.

  265. When I said among Republicans, I meant that democrats have learned not to say they like the Clintons for fear of nastiness from republicans that are within earshot. I’m serious, you should have heard some of the mean old folks I was calling here in Oregon.

    I’m sure there are wives that will vote for Hillary without telling husbands in huge numbers.

  266. I absolutely can not stand Nancy Pelosi. The only reason I and many other women supported her as SOH was because she was a woman. That’s it. She has utterly disgraced herself intervening in this primary in a way unprecented among former SOH’s. She’s a disgrace. I look forward to her being replaced.

  267. T-shirts:

    I vote for her
    because
    she stands for me.
    (you don’t even need her name, everyone knows who you’re talking about.)

    [picture of a smudged diner order ticket]
    Did he want wine or whine with his waffles?
    (OK, that’s petty, but still 🙂

    Hillary:
    Too busy doing the job
    to snub, snap, or snob

    Got health care?

    Substance, steel, and strength,
    that’s what Our Girl is made of.

    Okie, you were cracking me up with yours. Mine are embarrassing. Watch, I’ll actually get this comment posted.

  268. HillBill, are you volunteering at an Oregon field office now? I know a lot of Cali Clinton staff members are headed/already there.

  269. well when is nancy up again? as long as its after this election i will gladly give to her opponent if nothing else lets make her work as hard as Hillary has.

  270. filbertsf

    I didn’t see it anywhere. i was just speculating because of the different tone MSNBC has all of a sudden. You do not make a any comment that be be taken as a threat against anyone under SS protection. They take that VERY seriously even if the comment was made as a joke.

  271. Well we should contact hillary headquarters and speak out for her to do something about this, that was vile and disgusting and he ment every word he said!

  272. ya know i think axlerod added insult to injury with his statements about blue collar middle class whites. There are a lot of people whose parents worked less than stellar jobs for their children. A lot of those now adults recognize how hard thier parents worked and across the country i believe they will not subtely say fuck you obama.

  273. LMAO!!! Whiny Baby BamBam decided he thought he had the cojones to take on McCain. So his campaign opened their mouths all in their usual snotty outrage and high dudgeon over McCain not stopping the NC ads.

    Think again, Titty Baby Bambi. The old man just slapped your ass down like a PUNK!

    “Emails spokesman Hari Sevugan of the North Carolina Republican plans to air an attack ad::

    “The fact that Senator McCain can’t get his own party to take down this misleading, personal attack ad raises serious questions about his promise to the American people that he will run a civil, respectful campaign.”

    Responds McCain spokesman Brian Rogers:

    “Barack Obama has time and again refused to step forward and personally condemn repeated attacks on John McCain’s character and integrity by the Chairman of the DNC — not a state party — nor outrageous attacks by his surrogates Sen. Jay Rockefeller and Ed Schultz. We’ll start taking lessons from Barack Obama when he displays one ounce of the decency and courtesy that John McCain has shown in this campaign.”

  274. rjk, okay.

    Henry, save that for Spitty McMatthews when he runs for Senate. Poetic justice, Tweety.

    Nancy is up for re-election in 2008. Look, Nancy is very popular in her district. Despite criticism nation-wide, her approval/popularity is high. She easily defeated her opponent in 2006 by 60-something percent.
    She’ll be re-elected. Don’t throw your money away.

  275. what i find very funny perhaps ironic is that many of us who post here on a board which is prohillary are subjected to the most vile and cruel attacks by bambi supporters on several websites. We are here together supporting our choice and they read, they come here to dissect and dismantle. they repost statements with juvinile fantasies and it is hillary who is negative???

  276. Henry: they need to look in the mirror. They must really be bored, to monitor this board. They need to get a life. What losers.

  277. filbertsf
    okay maybe nancy is inevitable but i think at some point we need to create a coalition in the same vein as emily’s list, but this one will make all misogynists pay regardless of gender. (can a woman be a misogonist?) never mind we have donna brazille to answer for that.

  278. I did like Pelosi. But she’s been nothing more than an obstructionist in this Primary. She being the first female SOH, you’d think she’d support the first female POTUS.

    BTW, I’ve met her daughter, Christine, at an outreach function. Christine Pelosi is clearly a BO supporter, but hasn’t made any official statement — at least not to my knowledge.

    I like the other daughter more. She’s quirky and more relaxed than her mother or sister.

  279. birdgal
    they are doing the dirty work so bambi doesn’t have to. and unfortunately many readers here read the postings and were mortified. some even had thier personal busineses attacked as they had used the same screen name.

  280. Pelosi’s problem is not with Hillary per say. It could be any woman running for President that she has a problem with because she does not want to lose the title of the highest position held by any elected female in the history of the US.

  281. One reason I feel that Fox got on board a few weeks back denouncing BHO and his scary surrogates is because they saw what BamBam would do to McCain – playing the race card on him too. And it’s already started. As if McCain could force the RNC in NC to stop ad. BHO and his strong-arm tactics are disgusting. New Politics? Whatever. Hannity, Rush, Rove, Gingrich, Buchanan, Dobbs, Scarborough, Bennett and a handful of others realize how caustic BHO is to the American system of government and want no part of his extreme leftist lifestyle. Bill Bennett totally gets it too. As an educator foremost – he’d be the first to tell you the reason the public schools are in the shape they’re in is because of the ideology that BHO represents.That’s one of the main reasons kids run the schools today and have no respect for learning, teachers, themselves. Between the hip-hop crap, the Gangsta lifestyle emulated in song – all promoted by BHO. We all need to do EVERYTHING humanly possible to lead to the defeat of Obama. I am insulted when Axelrod, Roland Martin and others imply that we will “fall in line” behind Obama. NEVER. I appreciate what HRC says about him being better than McCain. I am a Democrat, but an AMERICAN FIRST. No way will I aid and abeit BHO to bring Jihad and a New World Order to the USA, Like the conservatives that are calling him out now (out of fear for our country), he literally scares the hell out of me.

  282. rjk1957
    well what has she done? why would i as a resident of PA not want her representing me,. Sorry i have perused her record and the only time i thinkl she showed a modicum of intelligence was when she held strong about not increasing the rebate checks for people who had not paid taxes. which i agreed with.

  283. filbertsf
    respectfully i would like that woman as far from wa as possible. To her opponent i will gladly donate.

  284. Henry: I can think of at least 3 former posters, who no longer post here, because of what you mentioned.

  285. henry
    It does not really matter what she has done, unless a democrat in congress can mount a successful bid to move her out of the speaker’s seat. The dems in congress are all wimps, just look at how many have gotten high on the Obama Kool-aid. In other words they follow the leader even if that leader is marching them towards the edge of a cliff.

  286. Pelosi is a joke. I was proud before she took office, but she is an absolute joke. Between her and Reid – argh. All so inept. That’s why she hates Hillary. She can’t hold a candle to Hillary in the policy-wonk department. And that laugh of hers. I’d rather hear Hillary cackle than Nancy give that laugh with a groan/moan at the end. Talk about annoying. She needs to retire, and go live her lavish millionaire elitist lifestyle in San Francisco. It’s all window dressing for her in her Armani suits. Like Kathleen Townsend said, “There are workhorses and showhorses.” Hillary is a workhorse, Pelosi is a showhorse. And not a very good one, at that. I can see her whole elitist family being behind elitist Obama. For all we know, she may have had family in that private residence in SF that fateful April 6th. She keeps injecting her opinions in this race and if anyone should remain impartial – it’s her. She just needs to STFU.

  287. Henry, Pennsylvanians are very down-to-earth people. You should be proud to live there. However, you guys are very straight-forward talkers and you spare no one’s feelings.

    I had a fun time meeting Pennsylvanians, but I think I would have a completely different experience if PA leaned towards BO.

  288. birdgal
    i got instructions on how to take my own life as it was not worth living after i posted my email address here.
    contacted a few people to complain as others were having a problem forwarded the emails as per request i was told pretty much nothing was going to happen with it but they were definately going to keep an eye on the posters and the guy i spoke with said it was like catching a murderer who jumps a turnstile. they can get away with the big stuff but look out the little shit catches them up.

  289. I was actually refreshed this evening watching MSNBC and Fox and a little of CNN (they just don’t seem to get it yet. Finally the tide IS turning. Barack is finally getting some negative press. Unbelievable after months of ‘he can do no wrong-vomitous commentary. I know thr right wing has a lot to do with it so we’ve got to watch out. However, I was thinking about how this could turn to Sen. Clinton’s advantage. What if they go after Obama the entire last few months of the Primary and Hillary gets the nomination in the end. That would be a great big middle finger to Limbdick and his moronic ilk.

  290. filbertsf
    spent the last 20 in manhattan
    2 yrs in london
    5 yrs in phill;y
    1 (college year) at purdue which is West Lafayette Indiana
    in pa for my dad aND TO CATCH UP ON CREDIT

  291. I have never seen so many Democrats at such odds. There are people I have worked with who support BHO and I totally wonder if I ever knew them at all. Seriously. It really gives you such insight into people who could actually believe in him. No scruples, no depth, or morals whatsoever. I try to understand the AA thing in supporting one of there own. But then, I remember the AA who see him realistically, and have the good sense to support HRC and I get all bummed out again. It has really changed relationships with many people, I believe. It’s wone of those things where there really is no middle ground. You’re either for true principles and equality for all (HRC), or you’re a racist pig and have no true understanding of democracy and love for the common good of all (BHO). Plain and simple. Very depressing to see the worst in people you thought you knew.

  292. filbertsf

    I also had fun in PA. Pennsylvanians are very down to earth. I was in Erie. We stayed at a cottage on the beach. We had a blast campaigning We knocked on doors, stood on corners with signs and phoned bank

  293. Henry, a la Snobama, you are now prepared for the Presidency since, having lived in London for 2 years, you’re now an expert on foreign policy.

    Do you have a campaign manager yet? I will gladly volunteer.

  294. OKAY I AM GOING TO BE NEGATIVE BUT EVERYONE IS SO FRIGGING HAPPY THAT BIG MEDIA IS GIVING HILLARY A TENTH OF A HANDSHAKE. PERSONNALLY I FEEL IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO PLACATE WHAT HAS OBVIOUSLY BECOME A GENUINE MOVEMENT ON HER BEHALF. SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT HER IGNORE BAMBI AND WHEN HE STEALS THE ELECTION THEY WON’T UTTEWR A WORD. REMEMBER HOW WE GOT BEHIND HER AFTER PA1 yuck never ever bambi

  295. neetabug, I was in Scranton. I’m happy to have set foot in a town where Hillary’s root sprouted.

    You stayed in a cottage? Impressive.

  296. filbertssf
    i guess its okay to generalize was that the worst backhanded compliment
    (also is worst a word I have no idea but sometimes it fits– but when you look at it just seems wrong i mispelled somewhere?)

  297. Henry, I am so sorry you had to go through those terrible e-mails. There are some real low-lifes out there.

  298. Yes the campaign put us up there. Very nice place. The beach was at the back door. I am planning on going to NC if i can get someone to donate some frequent flyer miles

  299. I sent one of my republican friends the 3 am waffle video today and she emailed back “OMG, I can’t believe you sent something negative about OBAMA!

    I responded that I would vote for her guy if Hillary doesn’t get in that Obama doesn’t have the experience and is too far left for my tastes.

    She emailed me back that she can’t stand him and that he’s gotten a free ride from the media. Even she sees it.

  300. Henry, I wasn’t insulting you. I was insulting BO and his claim to have foreign policy experience b/c he lived in Indonesia when he was a tot.

    I’m the John Kerry on this board. My jokes are never funny and they are worded very badly.

  301. neeta, good luck. NC is going to need your help.

    Summer airline prices are steep and I’m not sure I can afford to fly out to NC. I was hoping to, but reality bites.

  302. Neetabug, I have to say, you did a great job in Erie. Did some calls from home into Erie and you really had them solid in Hillary’s corner. They were very enthusiastic!

  303. I like what one poster here said (I think it might have been Ann):

    BO’s New Book:

    “ALL I REALLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY I LEARNED IN KINDERGARTEN IN INDONESIA.”

  304. birdgal
    i actually found some of them rather humorous. in fact most. i decided to participate in making sen clinton my president and if smeone wants to make that difficult for me I say bring it on. Hell compared to what she has withstood I am a babe in the woods

  305. The results across Pennsylvania were impressive for Senator Clinton:

    According to exit polls, Hillary won voters most concerned about the economy by 16 points (58-42) and union households by 18 points (59-41). She won those with incomes between 100K and 150K by 20 points (60-40); white women by 32 points (66-34) and Catholics by 38 points (69-31). She won those who decided on the last day (59-41), the last three days (58-42) and the last week (54-46). Hillary Clinton press release.

    Additionally, Clinton once again demonstrated her appeal in rural and suburban America, winning nearly all counties across the state. And her succcess in Pittsburgh serves as a reminder that she too can carry urban areas.

    As expected, Obama held on firmly to his coalition of African Americans and the wealthy (over $150,000 annual income).

  306. I’m getting increasingly worried about the chances McCain will be our President.
    We see know that attacking Barack is about as easy as breathing.
    We all know the list, but do others?
    Do the SDs see what will happen if Barack is the nominee. Let’s see what 5 cards McCain has in his hand.
    – Fear
    – Elitist
    – Terrorist Connections
    – Corruption
    – and of course the Ace of Spades – Anti-American (sure McCain says no adds about Wright NOW, but just wait).

    If the SDs and the weakest three-headed leadership our party has face in a while does not realize this soon McCain will be our president.

  307. Just watched video clips of Terry McAuliffe and it is so nice to see members of the campaign more relaxed and laughing. He said flat out Hillary will win IN.

  308. rjk, Terry McAuliffe is a naturally perky fella. He’s really great at rallies. Definitely a people person.

  309. This is what I wrote to Nancy PelosI:

    Dear Honorable Madame Speaker of the House:

    SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO YOUR JOB. AMERICAN VOTERS DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION. THEY CARE ABOUT HOW YOU DO THE JOB YOU’RE DOING (or currently failing at).

    Leave picking the nominee up to the millions yet to vote.

    k thnxbai.

    i suggest everyone to follow suit 🙂 perhaps if we are more mean, she will get the message 😀

  310. Nancy Shameless Pelosi was basically stomping around on LKL showing off her influence and acting like she knows exactly how the race will turn out, blah blah blah.

    I hate that woman. can’t believe I supported this freak at first.

  311. MJS, the minute you begin your letter with STFU, how likely is the recipient going to continue reading or care what you have to say?

    Don’t be a Hillary version of an Obama supporters.

  312. One day of something that remotely resembles honest coverage in a 14-month campaign and scum of the earth like Huff Post blare their oversized red font that, “The Media have Jumped Ship from Obama”.

    This reeks of a setup of some kind, with some incidental ass-covering that comes as a bonus to the media traitors when they reverse field, likely tomorrow.

  313. OandrewD
    be very very worried that Mccain may be your next president. I busted my ass for the last six weeks walking up and down the very mountanous streets of pittsburgh and if bambi is the nominee i will do the same if not more so

  314. and by this I’m not referring just to HuffPost, but all of them.
    They can always say they ‘questioned’ Obama, never mentioning the million-to-one ratio.

  315. From previous:

    Rev Wright: “He’s a politician, I’m a pastor,” he said. “We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they’re two different worlds.”

    He added, “I do what I do. He does what politicians do. So that what happened in Philadelphia where he had to respond to the sound bytes, he responded as a politician.”

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wright-says-his-words-were-twisted/

    Hey, that’s what the New Black Panthers said when Obama took them off his website. Something like, they don’t mind, they know he had to say that, they know he didn’t really mean it….

  316. Filbert, Hillbilly,

    The last time I sent her a letter, I was cordial and very nicely trying to ask her to stay neutral.

    This time, is one time to many. This woman needs to understand that her power comes from the people, not from herself.

    And perhaps her campaign staff get to many cordial letters everyday. Perhaps this will shake them up. Lord knows, nothing is going to change Pelosi’s mind unless Obama loses every single state in the future by double digits, so hell with it, I’m going to get mean with her.

  317. Not sure about Wu, but I have a feeling Pelosi is making promises about committee assignments and pork projects in exchange for endorsements.

    Why she is getting a free pass from the far-left is beyond me, she said she would end the war if elected. God I loathe her.

  318. birdgal
    if you are still here isn’t it funny that i as a putz can take the abuse but Waffles can not. He is running to be president i am just blogging.

  319. p.s. I did more than write the bitch, I called her San Fran office got my message through loud and clear.

  320. wagner, ur prbbly right about that, now that I think about it.

    It’s disgusting how she is so in the bag for Obama simply because she can’t stand being second-fiddle amongst women.

    It’s not like anyone really cares about her. Even as just a junior senator from New York, I’m sure Hillary wielded far greater influence in D.C. and the World than Pelosi and her weak idle mind ever did.

  321. next up, I’m going to give Dean a piece of my mind. The next time one of the Democratic fundraising people call my house, I’m going to have a word or two with them.

  322. This is beyond infuriating, Clyburn stoking this totally bullshit fucking line of attack – yet again.

    The campaign needs to take this lying bitch down!!

    From the NYT:
    Representative James E. Clyburn, an undeclared superdelegate from South Carolina who is the Democratic whip in the House, said that “black people are incensed over all of this,” referring to statements that Mr. Clinton had made in the course of the heated race between his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Senator Barack Obama.

    Mr. Clinton was widely criticized by black leaders after he equated the eventual victory of Mr. Obama in South Carolina in January to that of the Rev. Jesse Jackson in 1988 – a parallel that many took as an attempt to diminish Mr. Obama’s success in the campaign. In a radio interview in Philadelphia on Monday, Mr. Clinton defended his remarks and said the Obama campaign had “played the race card on me” by making an issue of those comments.

    In an interview with The New York Times late Thursday, Mr. Clyburn said Mr. Clinton’s conduct in this campaign had caused what might be an irreparable breach between Mr. Clinton and an African-American constituency that once revered him. “When he was going through his impeachment problems, it was the black community that bellied up to the bar,” Mr. Clyburn said. “I think black folks feel strongly that that this is a strange way for President Clinton to show his appreciation.”

    Mr. Clyburn added that there appeared to be an almost “unanimous” view among African-Americans that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton were “committed to doing everything they possibly can to damage Obama to a point that he could never win.”

  323. Blue,

    Obama’s camp is starting it again to get the AA in IN and NC riled up. I guess 90% is not enough for them and they want 100% support from AA voters.

  324. seems to me there is only one MOTHERFUCKING thing left to do;

    Damage Obama to a point that he could never win.

    Then tell Clyburn & his coniving friends they can all
    suck our collective asses!

  325. Henry: BO has not had to run a tough race, until he faced Hillary. Running for the POTUS, is not like running against Alan Keyes. I think, he thought everything was fixed for him, in this race, but guess what? The people keep bringing Hillary back, and breathing air back into the sails of her campaign, so the race can continue. He is one entitled, narcissistic, arrogant, angry, and anti-American SOB.

  326. um someone should tell clyburn:

    #1) Clinton didn’t start the racist thing.
    #2) If you don’t call 90% of AA’s voting for Obama a form of racism, then what the hell do you call it? It’s obviously not a fair process if you have the few and rare Hillary AA supporters being cussed at and threatened with violence!
    #3) How long is clyburn going to put up this “neutral” shit? We all know he’s in the bag, gagged, and hynoptized for BamBam
    #4) Obama doesn’t represent the normal African American. He has no traces or links to Slavery (other than his mother side OWNING slaves) and he lived through experiences that even most WHITE people don’t get to live through (private school in hawaii, travelling around the world, schol to harvard, etc)

    #5) OBama doesn’t need Hillary or Bill to damage him. He is the one with the right “bitter:” comments to kill his own presidency. Add his wife, and you have a pure atomic implosion.

  327. I really don’t care if the lies BO has spread has made irreparable damage. We can’t let BO run this country and if the poor AA’s are under such a spell that they can’t see that he would be terrible for this country, then so be it, let them go to the republicans and see what they get there!

  328. and #6) this race is PALE and WEAK in comparison to what Hillary and Bill could REALLY do to Obama. If the Clinton camp could, I’m sure Obama would still be crying in his Rezko-mansion. There is just so much juicy dirt on this guy that any politician with the political knack of the clintons and who had less ethics/morals would’ve clobbered him way back in spring of last year.

  329. Wow
    I asked my parents how they felt about axelrod/bittergate and they asked me for a clinton sign for thier yard. i said the primary is over and they said and

  330. birdgal, come GE time, you will see how tough Hillary REALLY can get. The race BO is running against her is like him running against a weaker version of Hillary. Hillary has to jump around and worry about #1 being too negative (as democrats in general don’t like it), #2 offending AAs, #3 getting slapped back by people like Kennedy who just want to hold BamBam safe in their laps forever. Hillary has had so many obstacles, not to mention the media, that she is only doing prbbly 30% of the agressive things she could do in a GE against a very aggressive GOP candidate.

  331. Ko was talking last evening about a SD taking her to the back room and only one coming out. I wonder if that is Nasty Pelosi? That would be something for Nasty to try and take Hill down, I like to see that on Pay-per-View! Since she was on LKL, maybe they think she’s the one to do it!

  332. birdgal
    until i hear it from hill i will do everything in my power to keep her campaign afloat but i never ever will vote for bambi and i gotta say i learned quite a bit this cycle and i will give mccain my experience. I can honestly say i will remember every 60 yr old womans house i knocked on and i will show up there with a mccain sticker if need be. waffles has offended my intelligence

  333. # neetabug Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    If i don’t make it to NC. I will be going to Denver to see HIllary nominated

    I planned on going to denver too, wondering if anyone can like buy a ticket to get in??? and if so how much??

  334. Obama says that campaigns should not be run on personal issues, yet he would not have his Senate seat if someone did not go to court to get Jack Ryan’s divorce records made public forcing him to drop out. Now that I think of it didn’t something similar happen in the primary in IL when his opponents divorce records were made public? Funny, he was behind in the senatorial primary and his opponent’s private life is made public. Then he is behind in the GE and his opponent is forced to drop out when his private life is made public. Anyone else see a pattern here? Maybe we should ask Alice Palmer if she sees a pattern.

  335. Henry: LOL! BO’s new name=WAFFLES! I love it!

    When I told a fellow co-worker, who is a Hillary supporter, that I could not support Waffles, if he should become the nominee, he was aghast. He thought, McCain was an empty suit, and was being propped up by others. This might be true, but I don’t think, he would destroy the country. I will never vote for Waffles, if he becomes the nominee. He is too toxic.

  336. I want to see a fight 😀

    Hillary vs Pelosi
    Bill C vs Kennedy + Kerry (as Kennedy is too timid without his long-faced counterpart)
    Carville vs Bill Richardson (this should be fun)
    Maxine Waters vs Michelle Obama

    and for fun:
    Barack Obama vs. Himself (how badly will he kill himself i.e. “waffles” and “bittergate”)

  337. Nancy Pelosi versus Hillary Clinton?

    That’d be Tyson v. Spinks. If Hillary was in a kind mood.

    But let’s never forget they’re a bunch of scheming jackals – with significant political power.
    And I’d sure sleep better – or make that simply sleep – with at least some confirmation that the campaign is fighting much more ruthlessly behind the scenes than their very reserved public demeanor suggests.

  338. filbertsf
    my family has contributed. i am one of 6 so i think hill has rec’d at least 15k from us with more to follow. i believe in her and thats what they need. My parents attended community college and raised 6 kids. And my mother is part native american and dads====================

  339. Blue Dem, if you simply read the Michigan delegates article, you will know that HRC’s campaign is fighting a winning some very crucial battles undercover.

  340. Filbertsf: YES! That is what I told him. Waffles is an empty suit, propped up by the likes of Kennedy and Kerry, as well as McCain. Hillary is the only person with substance, in this race.

  341. I have a feeling that Hillary has actually turned over some pledged delegates as well. That’s why Obama is so frantically kicking out hundreds of potential pledged delegates at a time.

  342. if any one can contact geeklove please say wow you are the greatest human being who haS EVER TRAVERSED THE PLANET AND THEN ASK HER TO MAKE A YOUTUBE PIECE BASED ON EN VOUGE’S EARLY 90-‘S PIECE NEVER GONNA GET IT.

  343. I did MJS. I know they’re fighting where they need to most. I know.

    But there are just so many openings they’re not hitting, not even trying.
    KO, Clyburn, Axelrod, Schumer (again), Pelosi, I could go on forever….

    Why not tell Pelosi to shut the fuck up?
    She’s clearly breached protocol with regards to impartiality –
    as has Harry Reid. Again & again.
    Say Pelosi’s been a disaster as SOTH – because she has, and tell her to stop sticking her manufactured nose where it doesn’t belong!

  344. Obama’s campaign is SOO cocky. they’re already registering interns and volunteers for Summer work on the campaign against McCain.

    Too bad they’re not going to be able to campaign against McCain…unless Dean and Pelosi have rigged the Super-D system somehow…

  345. I tuned into Jon Stewart yesterday hoping he would give fair coverage to HIllary’s victory, instead, what I got was 15 minutes of Hillary bashing. No congratulations. No “MSM, can you please STFU with demanding Hillary drop out.” He, too, joined the Hillary-hating bandwagon.

    So tonight, I didn’t tune in. Once bitten, twice shy.

    Did anyone watch it?

  346. wait. i found this at the obama site:

    “Senator Obama is now 291 delegates away from winning the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination.”

    is this true?

  347. Blue: They have to pick their battles. Fighting the media, would only make it worse. When Schuster was suspended for awhile, the rhetoric was even worse. She was blocking free speech, was a whiner, etc. She cannot tell these people to STFU, there is too much on the line. She is trying to woo people, not divide them. She is operating in a mine field.

  348. Uh, oh. I started a reply to a DNC fundraising e-mail today with “Tell Howard Dean to kiss my ass….”

    Did I do bad?

    After that I said the DNC could forget asking me to contribute to run attack ads against John McCain because, if Dean didn’t stop trying to rig the nomination and allow Florida and Michigan to be seated, I intend to VOTE for John McCain and every other Republican on the ballot in November.

    I hope I wasn’t too mean.

  349. birdgal,

    “Fighting the media, would only make it worse.”

    I hear you. But it can be worse? You’re sure?

    You’re aware that they’ve simultaneously almost squashed the 2nd most visible representative of the (unquestionably) best economic record in modern American history all while boosting to unprecedented levels a complete neophyte with a shitload of baggage as economic fears are gripping the country & the globe?

    Hope you haven’t been duped by the respite that this big 24 hours of ‘coverage’ has provided, because I sure haven’t.

  350. “they call them white trash where i grew up “– Randi Rhodes
    funnest thing i have ever heard from that pathetic nothing. She epitomizes white trash. What kind of a woman calls another a whore????
    \She is simply gross a fat chick who has probably slept with any guy who said hello.

  351. Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:25:37 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Blaine Whitford
    Subject: Re: Count the Votes
    To xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Cc: JHannagan@floridademandsrepresentation.org
    xxxxxxxxxxxx
    Thank you so much for your support. Please join us in DC, along with LULAC, the SCLC and others for a demonstration at the DNC HQ. I will have the info up on the website this evening.

    In the meantime, please download and sign the Nation Petition to show your support for the voters of Florida!

    Thanks so much

    Blaine Whitford
    State Lead, Special Events
    Florida Demands Representation
    http://www.floridademandsrepresentation.org

  352. by the way, regarding the jodie Evans of codepink that was something brought up by the GOP on fox today, I think it will be central to the Republican’s goals of painting Obama as a muslim.

  353. No, I have not been duped. I don’t watch very much of the garbage. Well, I don’t how, it could be worse, but I don’t want to find out. Fox is the only media outlet raising questions about Waffles, and it will only get worse, if he becomes the nominee. But, I’m beginning to believe, Pelosi, Dean, Kennedy, et al don’t care, if the GE is lost; anything to keep Clinton from winning.

  354. posted tonight at TM

    Chris Matthews and guests were talking about a brewing scandal that was going to break with the potential to end his candidacy. Many thought it was LS but who knows anymore.

    has anyone here got anything on this??

  355. Barack Obama could end this racial strife right now instead of allowing all these surrogates to stoke fires of hatred, but instead he is using it for his own purposes. When the election is over he will be done with them.

  356. And they are lame posts. All three. Sorry! I’ll be better once I get over the joy of participating.

  357. ole grape: I signed and mailed the petition yesterday. So, you’ll be getting at least one from CA. A co-worker was interested, so I gave him one. I hope, he mails it, to the organization.

  358. lil ole grape
    did you want me to feel bad for atacking rhandi rhodes by having a high minded substantial piece about delegates
    i am joking. bravo to you and everyone but i have written the dnc called i can do no more.
    I am asking before i hit the hay if anyone else gets a picture of rhandi rhodes when they think of white trash?

  359. I got my t-shirt!
    It’s “There’s no crying in politics!”
    BO in baseball cap — with tears –” in a league of his own”

  360. Henry: I thought Randi Rhodes was white trash, when I watched about 30 seconds of that obscene video of her trashing Hillary and Geraldine.

  361. I think it could be the LS deal since he sent his notarized statement to the Chicago police and they asked that he and his lawyer contact them. Just the thing hitting the news could be the final straw for some SDs.

  362. Thanks!

    OK, obligatory gushing: I am so thankful for you folks. You’re a safe harbor in a sea of craziness and misogyny.

    Just so you know how Hill is seen outside the US, I just got back recently from overseas. The hotel played news from France, Spain, Italy and the UK. Everybody had stories on Hillary every single day. They really like her over there. Not one mention of Waffles. It was like he didn’t even exist. Some would call it Paris, but I called it Paradise!

    Go Hillary! Thanks Hillaryis44!

  363. birdgal,

    “But, I’m beginning to believe, Pelosi, Dean, Kennedy, et al don’t care, if the GE is lost; anything to keep Clinton from winning.”

    Oh, you’re right on there. The second they stepped out against the Clintons and cast their lot with BO they left themselves no choice.
    For them, BO must win or they’re out of power.
    That’s what makes it such a volatile situation.

  364. Hi, everyone: just checking in – I’m so disgusted with BO and his lies, hypocrisy, and Axelrod. Also sick of Empty-suit Waffles and his cast of combine creeps from :sighs: my state of IL. I assure you that there are plenty of people here of good will, but most of us keep our own counsel at the moment in this even more toxic than usual political environment. The streets are filled with marauding gangs of smug-thugs.

    Lanny Davis was excellent on H&C tonight – he was also on Hannity’s radio program. (can’t believe I listen to any of this right-wing stuff!) Lanny’s memo and the ten talking points seem to be getting some traction.

    Anyway, I’m hoping to go to IN weekend after this if they need more help there. Contact me through Admin if you want a ride from Chicago.

    Keep the faith! Our Hillary is a tower of strength – I admire her more every week. And all of you, too, for your strength, faith and humor. Thank you all.

    Good night!

  365. HillsGirl, I post on another board (figure skating of all things, but that is another story), and a poster from the UK, said the ALL the people love Hillary over there. What is wrong with media in this country. And people call her divisive. Obviously, the rest of the world doesn’t think she is. She would do so much, to help to restore the reputation of the U.S. It will be a tragedy, if the nomination is lost.

  366. birdgal, I know! The only Obama supporter I saw or heard from was an obnoxious little trust fund kid with an Obama 08 button. He embarrassed himself by yelling “Woooooo!” as our boat went under a bridge. Oh, did I mention he was, like, 25 years old? Yeah, quality youth, right there.

    Otherwise, everyone was all, “Thank goodness Hillary will fix the US.”

    It bolstered my spirits, I tell ya.

  367. G’night and thank you all — I laughed and laughed at all the t-shirts – yes, dream of Madame President Henry did you say you are from gnsb? My mother lived there for years on Alexander st and later on Lynn – I was born in jeanette

  368. OH, and forgive if this was posted (I know there was conversation upthread about the ads) but, this is the site of the guy who is putting up commercials in NC. He did the infamous Willie Horton ad. Guest on on Hannity radio today.
    http://www.exposeobama.com/

  369. djia,
    Where is the bit that might end BO’s campaign on Taylor Marsh?
    I don’t see it in her latest article or in 200+ comments!

    I said last night – and maintain – I always prefer postings that provide info, and I’m never going to get on anyone for not just c&ping the info or providing a link, so help me out here….
    cause that’s kinda important, ya know?

    This, btw, I found on TM’s comments, maybe one of the best synopsis’ I’ve seen of this horribly slanted race and how it took place;

    “Many people say “Obama can’t close the deal.” But it was a misleading deal from the start. It was almost like a con job. In Iowa, he bussed in people who might not have been eligible to vote. He would have won the caucuses by one or two points, except that Richardson made a deal to tell his backers to throw their support to Obama. So Obama won by eight, in the first of many bogus caucus results, and got immense press for it. Then he lost in NH and NV, but pretended he won the latter. Then came SC and the race-baiting. Any state where there is a large AA base is a winner for him, and shouldn’t be a surprise. Bill Clinton was right when he mentioned Jesse Jackson winning there twice. But the press played it up like a big thing, and doubled it by attacking Clinton’s comments. And then when Florida and Michigan voted, which should have given Hillary a big lift, and lots of votes and delegates, they somehow were said not to count at all.

    Then on Super Tuesday, Obama won caucuses and a couple of very close primaries (Missouri and Connecticut). He lost the big ones. But somehow it was played in the media as if he had done wonderfully, and that Hillary was reeling. Then he won a bunch of caucuses through a variety of tactics, and got disproportionate delegates for it. The only primaries he won were in the South, and Wisconsin. When it got to big states again, CLinton has beaten him every time. Obama never had the kind of popularity that the media and his backers touted. Most of his fundraising comes from a few wealthy sources, not the supposed grassroots. He spent $11 million in PA and lost by nine points. He spent a fortune in Ohio, and lost by ten. He would have lost, and would lose, Florida by 15-20, no matter when it was or is held. He wouldn’t win Michigan, either. Again, he wins caucuses and Southern states which are unwinnable in November. If those big states had come earlier, and if FL and MI had counted, he would never have been considered the frontrunner. It’s almost all a myth; a cleverly purveyed and media-supported one, but a myth nonetheless.

    But ironically enough, Obama could win in November. He is an amazingly lucky person, and he runs at a time when the Republican Party is not at all popular. In fact, Hillary would beat McCain easily, because he has no issue to run against her with. If it’s an argument about their two political philosophies, Hillary’s wins hands down. So Obama has a chance, except that McCain can run against Obama the person, Obama’s associations and experience. If the Democratic leaders did not envy and resent Hillary, and if they weren’t so absolutely determined to feel morally superior by helping a Black candidate get the nomination, they would see that Clinton is by far the more electable candidate, and tell Obama to come back in eight years. But most of them had made up their minds long ago, and are just looking for any excuse to go the way they had previously chosen.
    Obama is desperately trying to cash in his chips before the casino realizes that he really didn’t win nearly that many.”

  370. found this over at kos………..a couple things interesting about this diary

    1. it is written by NCDEM29…..she worked for John Edwards during his 2008 campaign and i think his 2004 campaign
    so she knows her stuff as well as the fact she is from NC……I having been a Edwards dem prior to coming to hillary
    know her well enough to know from edwards blogs…that this lady knows her stuff and has now switched to backing
    obama. 🙁

    2. this diary is about injecting a reality check to kosiaks on how obama will possibly loose NC due to majorly not well known racism in NC……..so its of interest to us and to hills campaign she has included maps and charts to follow her theory.

    check it out: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/24/204214/702/528/502881

  371. Blue
    what Kennedy/Pelosi/Kerry/Dean did not count on is that some of us over the age of 30 know how to use a computer. from Iowa on and perhaps even before they have manipulated the news to an unprecedented extreme, Thankfully lots of people didn’t buy it, I posted an experience i had yesterday about knocking on a womans door who was 80 something who came to the door and before i could say a word bellowed out “oh christ that woman doesn’t give up” i was prepared for aN APOLOGY BUT SHE SHUT ME DOWN SAYING SHE WAS ON HER WAY TO VOTE FOR HILLARY.
    felt great!!!

  372. Blue Democrat Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 1:26 am

    djia,
    Where is the bit that might end BO’s campaign on Taylor Marsh?
    I don’t see it in her latest article or in 200+ comments!

    that was all there posted on it, i didn’t even see a response from anyone , that is why i asked about it here

    here is the entire posting:

    The article is suggesting a more intimate relationship between Barack and Jodie. (Who knows, maybe that is what the Enquirer was referring to).

    Chris Matthews and guests were talking about a brewing scandal that was going to break with the potential to end his candidacy. Many thought it was LS but who knows anymore.

    It’s like a scandal per week with this guy.

    Maybe Chris senses that the end is near and wants to flip sides before the shit hits the fan in order to save one of his faces.
    48 | 04.25.2008 – 00:14 am | #

  373. I am, henry. Last Sept, I thought I’d be happy with either candidate, any Dem was a sure thing. But the flat-out sexism of the press, the un-noted hypocrisy of the Obama campaign, and the aggressive intimidation of the Obamabots during the WA state caucuses turned me around. I can’t listen to NPR, AirAmerica, any of my usual news shows. I have literally cried for the treatment Hillary has received, cried for the strength and caring she’s shown.

    I don’t know if I can vote for McCain, but I’m not voting for Waffles; I don’t care how much syrup he dowses himself in. Give me a toothache just thinking about it.

  374. djia,

    Who’s Jodie? What article? U Lost me..

    This Sinclair/Donnie Young thing sounds wild, having trouble finding his ‘original’ story though. Is that it (if you know; if these are just someone’s comments, I guess we’re both just diggin’ :)?

    And am I missing something with regards to the Edwards backer, NCDEM29, switching to BO?

  375. I found this in LS’s FAQ section.

    While I find at least his presentation of general facts coherent, the critical statement, at least in this segment of the site, is poorly written.

    So much so you can’t follow it, or make heads or tails from it.

    I don’t like it.

    “When Larry Sinclair first reported his allegations to the Obama campaign in September 2007 he wanted Obama to correct his claim that he had stopped taking drugs in his teens and had never taken crack. He believes crack is addictive and difficult to shake off.

    Over the following months until December, 2007 he was contacted several times by Donald Young who appeared to be Obama’s emissary. He was the choir master at the Trinity Church of Christ which was under the direction of Pastor Jeremiah Wright and where Barack Obama is a member of the congregation. Donald Young informed Larry Sinclair that he, too, had a sex and drugs relationship with Barack Obama similar to his.

    *At first he suggested that Obama was seeking the assistance of Jeremiah Wright in making a statement acknowledging his use of crack cocaine as recently as 1999. But he had second thoughts in early December 2007. Donald Young was murdered in his appartment at Christmas 2007.*
    Larry Sinclair notified the Chicago police of his contacts with him but received no acknowledgment. Subsequently he has submitted a sworn affidavit which has so far not been acknowledged by the Chicago Police.”

  376. At first he (Young?) suggested that Obama was seeking the assistance of Jeremiah Wright in making a statement acknowledging his use of crack cocaine as recently as 1999. But he (Young?/Obama?) had second thoughts in early December 2007.

    Maybe it’s just me that’s incoherent, I’ll shut up now.

  377. Hi guys–just a couple of quick things:

    Ronald: Let’s organize the Wright “tribute” on Monday. Contact me at spabeles@patriot.net

    Suggestion for T-shirt– Blue Dem’s “Baraka Dukaka” with tank helmet photo-shopped on

    Guys we NEED that Wright NC ad on the air: contribute to NCGOP.org (I’m not a traitor– if Hill loses I’m voting Republican in November anyway & they say they’re using donations just for ad)

    Time just wrote a little love piece on Obama’s early days in which they carefully omit all mention that Obama studied the Koran or learned Arabic (which we know from his own autobio he did)–Is a piece on Obama’s “white” side supposed to assuage white working class voters???
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-7,00.html

  378. HRC VOLUNTEERS NEEDED to leave on-line comments in local papers.
    WE need YOU!!
    Appreciation, camaraderie, no pay.
    But do it anyway.
    We’re making a (little) difference, state by state.
    Join us.
    spabeles@patriot.net

  379. I SAW THIS ON OTHER PRO-HILL BLOGS ,,

    SO I AM POSTING IT HERE TOO

    IHelp Help: HRC Indiana Office Asks For Sign

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    Quote:
    HELP: We need signs in Indiana Obama has signs everywhere please visit Clinton Store purchase signs http://www.hillarystore.com/signs.htm

    Send To Ken Atkins
    Hillary for President
    404 E Main St
    New Albany, Indiana 47150
    Phone# 812 949 2008
    Than You

    Do what ever you can please. You can recycle your old signs as well.

    Or you can buy from Demstore.com or Hillarygear.com. But ask if they have it in stock and when they will deliver. Demstore can be slow.

  380. Current ArticleTriumph
    By SusanUnPCcloseAuthor: SusanUnPC Name:
    Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
    Site: http://noquarterusa.net/
    About: See Authors Posts (835) on April 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM in Barack Obama, Commander in Chief, Hillary Clinton

    What can I add? Larry called me because he was so tickled that our little blog, Taylor’s blog, Hillary’s blog, and you the readers (who write the BEST DAMN comments on the ‘net — at both Taylor Marsh’s blog and ours) — were featured. But what both of us most want is for the rest of that animation to come true. You do too. We can do it.

    Trackback URL

    15 Comments » Comment by SAM | 2008-04-26 12:45:50

    Help Help: HRC Indiana Office Asks For Sign

    ——————————————————————————–

    Quote:
    HELP: We need signs in Indiana Obama has signs everywhere please visit Clinton Store purchase signs http://www.hillarystore.com/signs.htm

    Send To Ken Atkins
    Hillary for President
    404 E Main St
    New Albany, Indiana 47150
    Phone# 812 949 2008
    Than You

    Do what ever you can please. You can recycle your old signs as well.

    Or you can buy from Demstore.com or Hillarygear.com. But ask if they have it in stock and when they will deliver. Demstore can be slow.

    Reply to this comment
    Comment by simon, too | 2008-04-26 13:00:14

    This is on the up and up?

    I can do that…

    Reply to this comment

    Comment by hillfan | 2008-04-26 12:47:15

    West Virginia and Kentucky could hand Clinton two of her largest victories

    ——————————————————————————–

    “West Virginia and Kentucky could hand Clinton two of her largest victories yet…”

    “….Obama’s message of change may be a tough sell in Kentucky where the latest poll gives Clinton a 36 point lead, 62 to 26 percent.

    Among women, she’s up 44 points. She leads 46 among whites, and she’s up 47 percent among seniors.

    Clinton won eastern Kentucky polls by her largest margin in the poll where she beat Obama by 63 points.”

    Article:

    http://www.wsaz.com/coverstory/headlines/18206129.html

  381. COME ON HILL FANS

    LETS TAKE TIME OUT

    AND MAKE 50-100-250 CALLS TO INDIANA ,,

    LETS DO IT

    COME ON E NEED TO ,,ITS ABOUT OUR FUTURE

  382. I BAKED COOKIES YESTERDAY,,SOLD THEM ,,MADE 50 BUCKS,,,,

    GAVE THE MONEY TO MY BROTHER IN LAW AND HAD HIM USE HIS CREDIT CARD ON HILLARYWEBSITE ,,,

    I WILL BE DOING THAT A LOT ,,

  383. SORRY ABOUT THE ABOVE BLOGS,,IT GOT MIXED UP ..

    I TRY TO LINK THE INFO BETWEEN MAJOR PRO-HILL BLOGS ,,SO I COPY AND PASTE

  384. I GOT TO GO

    I AM GONNA START MAKING CALLS

    HOPRFULLY I WILL MAKE 100 AND THEN HAVE MY HUBBY TAKE OVER FOR 50 CALLS,,,

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