A Full Year In Support Of Hillary Clinton

Update: By reader request, the notorious video, below.
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Our whine-free web site has been up for a year. We thought of ourselves as a “Pink Oasis” for Hillary Clinton supporters.

We eschewed Big Blog conventions of how to “look” and how to structure a website. We mocked and still mock conventional gobbleygook blogspeak – which is exclusionary language designed to isolate the uninitiated. No “MSM” for us. We called it what it is – “Big Media” representing the “Big Media Party“. No “memes” or “frames” for us – we proudly spoke English (Spanish too when the occasion required it).

Below are some of our arguments for Hillary Clinton, many of which first appeared on this website before they became “conventional wisdom”.

Our thanks to our many readers and to those who use what they learn here and teach others.

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First mention on another blog

But our favorite delusions from that Springtime for Haters are the ‘nobody really likes her’ and ’she has no support on the blogosphere/internet/netroots’ delusion.

Back then, on May 11, 2007, there was a discussion on one of the Big Blogs and our Pink Oasis received one of the first mentions on the nutosphere. A brave and vastly outnumbered Hillary supporter by the name of “samueldem” was engaged in a discussion with an Obama supporter. Samueldem was quoting from an article we had written to dispute the notion, so treasured by opponents, of – the Hillary ‘Dynasty’. Samueldem wrote:

I am not affiliated with the website accessible via the link below, but the dynasty argument is discussed by the blog owner. I have included a short excerpt below the link. This is a pro-Hillary blog all the way, but I think the commentary brings up some valid points, however biased the blog owner may be.

Samueldem’s interlocutor replied:

Wow, a strong and thoughtful case for HRC in the blogosphere- that’s rare…

Well, things have certainly changed. No one with any sense (there is still an abundance of the senseless typing rapidly in their little bubbles of delusion) dares question Hillary’s internet support any longer. Hillary has more than a million supporters on the ‘internets’ and we are no longer silent nor are we cowed.

More and more Hillary supporters start websites to support Hillary. More and more established voices break out in song to endorse and defend Hillary. Also important to acknowledge are the many other, established and new voices, increasingly becoming aware of the ugly nature of anti-Hillary attacks – and finally ending their silence and speaking out in the name of decency and fairness.

So, we are thankful for all the voices throwing off fear and risking hostility in defense of Hillary on the internet. Many of those voices post here. Others come here to refresh themselves among happy Hillary supporters, without commenting, and we are thankful for all the gathering choir.

First mention of Obama’s “Present” vote dodge – April 19, 2007 – the second article on our very first day of publication:

The Supreme Court yesterday returned abortion and the reproductive rights of women back to the center stage of political life with its ban of so-called “partial birth” abortions. It also returned the Supreme Court itself as an issue. For the first time since Roe v. Wade the court rejected the sensible Clinton position – both Clinton’s – of “safe, legal, and rare”. Right-wing Republicans delighted in the decision which will now be used as a major weapon when they move into state legislatures to attempt to make abortions dangerous, illegal and nonexistent – and to hell with the health of a woman. As Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention stated “This decision is a powerful and timely reminder of presidential elections and their pivotal impact on the makeup of the Supreme Court.” [snip]

You see, unlike the U.S. Presidency, the buck does not stop at the Illinois legislature. In the Illinois State legislature a politician who wants to hide from an issue can vote “Present” instead of “Yes” or “No” and thereby avoid responsibility and the inevitable loss of support that comes from actually taking a stand.

In 1997, when it mattered, when he actually had a vote not just a microphone, when the issue of partial birth abortion came before the Illinois State legislature Obama twice gave a “Present” to abortion opponents. On House Bill 382 and Senate Bill 230 – bills that prohibited “partial birth” abortions, Obama took a dive. Like a character from Dr. Suess, Obama did not vote “no,” he did not vote “yes,” he gave a “present”. Obama did not take a stand in 1997. He did not take a stand in 2001. Then House Bill 1900 and Senate Bill 562 – on parental notification, Obama instead of voting “yes” or “no” voted – “present”.

Same thing with Senate Bill 1093, Senate Bill 1094, and Senate Bill 1095 which also dealt with abortion. No leadership, remain popular. No “yes”, no “no”. Let’s all get along and not vote on issues that matter. The audacity of being Present. The lightness of being.

First mention of slumlord Rezko – April 26, 2007

Before the latest series of articles the stink surrounding Obama and his indicted friend Rezko was smelly but not particularly pungent. Perhaps the transactions were bad in appearance but essentially innocent. The only thing we really knew was that Obama had bought a $1.65 million dollar house and on the same day his friend bought the lot adjacent to the new Obama house because Obama did not want to spend the additional $625,000 to purchase the adjoining land. Noses twitched when this was revealed but no more.

We also knew that after a short 6 month interval Obama purchased from his friend Rezko a portion of the land adjoining the Obama house. The Land of Lincoln suddenly became the land of link-on.

Our first mention of Prosecutors from Fitzgerald’s U.S. Attorney’s office prosecuting Rezko – April 30, 2007:

The national media are missing the big picture in their coverage of the hundred-million dollar plus scandal involving Barack Obama and his friend of 17 years, major donor, former Finance Committee Co-Chair and now indicted slumlord.

Debate moderator Brian Williams asked Obama about the scandal during last Thursday’s first Democratic Candidates for President debate. But Williams did not reference the political implications of the Obama scandal: the trial of Obama’s decades long friend and major donor and fundraiser will coincide with the 2008 primary calendar.

“Will Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald Destroy The Obama Campaign?” The legendary Patrick Fitzgerald indicted and convicted top Vice President Cheney aide Lewis “Scooter” Libby. Fitzgerald has now set his relentless prosecutorial eyes on a new target.

Unfortunately, the primary calendar changed and the Rezko trial was also delayed for a week.

An article that caught the Big Media eye – shortly thereafter we began to refer to Obama regularly as Barack Obama (D-Punjab) – June 15, 2007:

The Barack Obama campaign has been caught peddling dirt against Hillary and Bill Clinton. Obama is desperate to rescue his failing incompetent campaign so he is slinging mud.

No surprise, that is how Chicago Obama has always operated. Obama talks about running a clean campaign but he is a dirt peddler.


One of our biggest mistakes – Bill Richardson. We thought Richardson, as a Southwesterner and Latino, was impressive. The first debate Richardson participated in proved how wrong we were – we persisted in thinking well of him even after the first “disappointing performance” – he proved us wrong with just about every subsequent appearance – May 22, 2007:

Unfortunately Richardson turned in a very disappointing performance at the first Democratic debate held in late April. It is possible, as Brian Williams has acknowledged, that the heat was too high in the debate hall for the weak air conditioners or that the sound system was a problem for candidates on the edges of the stage, such as Richardson. What cannot be denied is that Richardson twitched a bit too much and at best provided dubious answers, such as the one about the type of Supreme Court nominee he would consider as a model.

Chelsea Clinton – May 13, 2007:

On this Mother’s Day it is fitting to relive a bit of history. The young women of today are not only a product of their parents, they are also a product of their “village”. Yes, it does take a village. In Chelsea’s case her mother helped shape not only Chelsea’s life but the lives of all of us, especially the lives of women young and old.

As imperfect as opportunities for all Americans currently are, and the distance left to travel until the goal of equality is reached, Hillary helped get us a bit closer to a more perfect union. 2007 America is not the America of Hillary when she was in her 20s.

As a young woman Hillary recalls a situation that probably has not changed as much as we like to believe, “In high school, one of my smartest girlfriends dropped out of the accelerated courses because her boyfriend wasn’t in them. Another didn’t want to have her grades posted because she knew she would get higher marks than the boy she was dating. These girls had picked up the subtle and not-so-subtle cultural signals urging them to conform to sexist stereotypes, to diminish their own accomplishments in order not to outperform the boys around them.” (page 20, hardcover Living History by Hillary Rodham Clinton)

Hillary – April 21, 2007:

“You know, what is it about us always having to clean up after people? ? But this is not just going to be picking up socks off the floor. This is going be cleaning up the government, clearing out the dead wood.”

One of the most persuasive arguments for a Hillary presidency is that she has the experience necessary to be president. Hillary has already served a full term in the Senate. For 8 years she was also at the right hand of the successful presidency of her husband Bill Clinton. She knows the problems, the solutions and the players worldwide as well as all the problems, solutions and leaders in every field in this country.

Why is the “experience” argument so persuasive? Because after the disasters this country and the world has endured in what is without argument the worst presidency and the worst president in American history we need emergency repairs domestically and internationally. At a town hall meeting in New Hampshire today, Hillary Clinton said that when she is elected president she would make Bill Clinton an ambassador to the world and employ him to restore the battered and torn reputation and image of the United States. “I can’t think of a better cheerleader for America than Bill Clinton, can you?” Bravo. So, not only is Hillary prepared with the most direct and best experience to get the country moving the minute she is elected, but she will have the additional expertise of Bill Clinton at her disposal to assist her. We expect she will employ all former Democratic presidents and the best persons from her vast network of friends and the absolute best former officials of the Bill Clinton administration. And let’s understand, Hillary can discern the “best” from the merely “good” because she knows these people from many years of working with them. After the incompetent Bush crony administration, hiring the best will be important and a big relief to Americans tired of watching this country circle the drain.

Bill Clinton – also from April 21, 2007:

Old George Bush destroyed the economy of the country and Bill Clinton had to ride in to fix it. And fix it he did, ending up with budget surpluses instead of the deficits the country had grown used to. The “clean up” did not end with the economy. The whole country and its relationships had to be repaired and President Bill Clinton did just that.

Big Media

Other sources have taken notice of what we pointed out regarding the Big Media narrative and the Big Media use of polls. Is this not the type of disinformation that the internet was supposed to fight against? Big Media is taking control of our Democratic nomination process and trashing our frontrunner in the same way Big Media will trash our Democratic Party nominee in 2008. They did it to Gore in 2000 and to Kerry in 2004. Big Media will try to do it again in 2008.

As much as we have derided, and will continue to criticize, MyDD – they are to be commended for noting how Big Media is trashing our elections. As usual Dailyhowler is on the job. TPM which usually participates in any Hillary bashing they can find (usually by the owner) has Greg Sargent on the job and doing good work. Taylor Marsh speaks up too. Hillary’s FactHub is counting the coverage as well.

When our elections get trashed by Big Media we learn who is willing to speak out and who is more concerned with their own self interests. PINOs, Naderites, and Big Blogs that pretend to fight Big Media – while getting book contracts and writing columns for Big Media that enrich the owners but do not take Big Media to task – are unmasked at these moments. These Quisling PINOs, Naderites, and Big Blogs are not our friends – they are the problem.

Arriana Huff n’ Puff

As with all things nutroots, the article then turns downright comic. Enter the least talented of the Gabor sisters, Arriana Huffington: “Hillary Clinton’s problem with the blogosphere is that she has been so calculating that you can smell it. Every thought has been processed through multiple channels in her and her consultants’ brains. It’s so fabricated.” Arriana Huffington criticizing anyone for anything is funny in and of itself. But Arriana calling anyone “calculating” or “fabricated” is actually self-evaluation.

Republican Ed Rollins (campaign manager for Arriana’s husband at the time, Michael Huffington, in his 1994 campaign for Senate from California) called Arriana “a domineering Greek Rasputin” who was “the most ruthless, unscrupulous, and ambitious person I’d met in thirty years in national politics.” Of course this was when Arriana was right hand to Republican Newt Gingrich. At some later date we will detail Arriana’s membership in that weird religious cult, her “marriage” to her husband whom she effectively forced to spend millions in his Senate campaign so that Arriana could be a Senator’s “wife” in D.C., and her ceaseless attacks on the Clintons when they were in the White House. Nothing changes with Arriana except her political bed partners.

Our comments section first mentioned “Pastor Wright” on July 7, 2007 (thanks Kostner wherever you are):

So far, the press gives him kid gloves, treats him like the second Jesus. Obama is MSM’s McCain. This guy will be destroyed in general election in two minutes. He has zero substance, all is the cheap talk of ‘audicity of hope’.

Just before his big announcement outside the old state capitol in Springfield—where Lincoln delivered his “house divided” speech—Obama abruptly changed plans and asked his pastor not to deliver the invocation prayer. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is the man who gave Obama not just spiritual direction, but also his signature phrase, which became the title of one of his books, “The Audacity of Hope.” But in the days before Obama officially launched his campaign, Wright was also caricatured as a “radical” for his Afrocentrism and his focus on black issues—a strange criticism, perhaps, of a preacher on the South Side. (The Reverend Wright is considered mainstream among African-American church leaders; Ebony magazine once named him one of the top 15 black preachers in America.) “Fifteen minutes before Shabbos I get a call from Barack,” a clearly perturbed Reverend Wright told The New York Times. “One of his members had talked him into uninviting me.”Obama says he was just trying to shield his pastor from harsh media attention. But the effect was to look like he wanted to distance himself from his own spiritual leader and community. “It’s conceivable that I might have been overprotective, and probably didn’t anticipate that he might feel hurt by it,” Obama concedes. “So we had a discussion about it and everything is fine at this point.”

The “Goreing” of Hillary Clinton on July 7, 2007:

When Al Gore ran for president in 2000 a great many of the people that today lionize Al Gore attacked him.

The same people that attacked Al Gore in 2000, most disgustingly Big Media and Naderites, attack Hillary today.

These unrepentant Naderites (launching their attacks from Big Blogs) and Big Media employ the same untrue and twisted arguments against Hillary that they used against the wonderful Al Gore (see the Daily Howler and their archives for the full ugliness of the attacks against Al Gore).

The Big Media narrative against Hillary Clinton – April 20, 2007:

Let us all understand what the narrative means. The great threat to Democratic victory in 2008 will not come from Fox News nor any of the other right wing news outlets. These fakes news outfits are discredited and losing influence with every passing day. The danger to Democratic victory in 2008 will come from journalists and pundits, whether lazy or malevolent (Chris Matthews and Arriana Huffington come to mind), and from self-interested, so-called Democratic “progressives” now huddled in their blog fortifications lobbing Republican propaganda grenades at popular Democrats like Hillary.

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286 thoughts on “A Full Year In Support Of Hillary Clinton

  1. Lots we did not mention for the sake of brevity. For instance the 44 cents fundraising campaign. We miss “Club 44”.

  2. SO AGAIN, HAPPY BIG B TO YOU AND US ADMIN !!!
    MAY WE BE VICTORIOUS…

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  3. YES, AND WE’VE LOST ALOT OF GOOD PEOPLE…

    so, where have all our little flowers gone?
    has this road been too hard for some?
    i know it has been stressful for me…

  4. the worst attack of the campaign says wolfson:
    Memo from Clinton Comunications Director WolfsonFrom: Howard Wolfson, Communications Director

    To: Interested Parties

    Date: Saturday, April 19, 2008

    Re: Obama Campaign On The Attack In Last Weekend Of Pennsylvania Primary

    A major theme of Sen. Obama on the stump is that Hillary Clinton is running a negative campaign based on “slash and burn politics” and that he represents a break from that kind of politics. In fact, in just the last 48-hours, Sen. Obama has flooded airwaves, radio, phone lines and mailboxes with negative and false attacks against Hillary. This unprecedented barrage coincides with a weak debate performance and Sen. Obama’s slide in the daily Gallup poll.

    1. In the most outrageous attack of the campaign, Obama surrogates held a conference call attacking Hillary’s character, claiming she did not have the “moral authority” to lay a wreath on the Tomb on the Unknown Soldier. [Link]

    2. Launched a television ad featuring false, negative attacks on Hillary’s health care plan. [Link]

    3. Distributed negative mail about Hillary’s trade positions, complete with citations even Sen. Obama has acknowledged have been debunked. [Link]

    4. Flooded voters with robocalls saying Hillary will “say anything” to win.

    thepage.time.com/memo-from-clinton-comunications-director-wolfson/

  5. i like that suit she has on…that color grayish looks good on her ..on cspan..her crowds are more into listening to her..because they understand her..they pay attention..they dont drift like obzoless supporters..

  6. And Dean (et al)l says HER negative campaigning is why the DNC is in the (horrible) shape it’s in? That’s the excuse SD use in endorsing HRC – HER negative campaigning. WHATEVER WE CAN BOYCOTT – IS HAS TO HAPPEN N O W. This crap must end. Half of the Democratic electorate has to DEMAND this be addressed by Big Media and the DNC or we well ALL DEFECT. AND THEN DO IT.

  7. she has lotts aa’s ..im proud she does…color does not matter alott has figure it out bolesssense wont do nothing for them

  8. Congratulations, Admin. I found your site after politico mentioned it and by that time things were turning inexplicably ugly in the MSM. What a refuge your site has been since then. Thank you!

  9. Thought I’d repost what i wrote on the last thread.

    Happy birthday, Hill44!

    The Obama campaign is targeting university students here in PR. Their first meeting was a total disaster. Students starting walking out before it finished, and 25 were left at the end. When the speaker asked who would be willing to volunteer to work in the campaign, there was total silence.
    I’m not saying Hillary would do any better. But it seems like the Obama campaign will not be able to count on an army of university students like in the States!

  10. It’s no change at all. I’ve always said that people in PR have never paid attention to U.S. politics since we can’t vote for president. Now, most people know that there will be a primary but I don’t believe that many people will vote. (We shall see.) It’s local politics that gets people going.

    Most university students are pro-independence, and rather hostile to American politicians. I believe older people will go for Hillary.

  11. Hey, y’all. Been catching up and looking at SA. Seems they like me. They really like me. *yawn*

    I bring this up bc they have erroneously picked up someone else as me. It just bugs since whomever’s pic they are posting is not me. Wish it were, but my hair’s not nearly that neat or long and I have a LOT of gray. So, to the asshats over at SA reading this, if you wanna pick on me, go for it, just leave the innocents out of it. Not my site, not my pic. And for crissakes, you guys really think I’d listen to Christina Aguilera? Uh- puh-leez. I’m more of an old school R&B girl or easy listening.

    Anyhow, happy birthday, Big Pink. I’ve been here for almost a whole year myself. I miss our old friends and wish them well.

    Admin, great work. If your site and the posters here weren’t having an effect, Ben Smith, SA and whomever is running the ripoff blog wouldn’t be freaking.

  12. hi hillfans. i just got home from work ready to check my hillarynews. i have to check up on cspan on hillary’s rallies.

  13. No, that’s not it at all. It’s that the university culture is very different from that in the U.S. And PR is very different, too. BTW, the spokesman for Obama, speaking in Spanish, told a lot of lies — that he was for universal health care, that he came from a poor, humble family and knew what it was to suffer…

  14. BTW- Lil Ole Grape, howdy from Oklahoma. And thanks for the shout out. You and your friends sound like a hoot.

  15. “Enter the least talented of the Gabor sisters, Arriana Huffington” 🙂

    Good one. Happy Anniversary.

  16. i first came upon hillaryis44 when i think admin posted on hillaryclinton.com blog. wow, i thought i wanted to check this new site called hillaryis44.org. i got hooked! lol. i do not post as much as i used to becuase of my new work schedule. but i check here everyday and night. a lot of new people since i joined and old screenames i do not see anymore.

  17. hillfans, i might get in trouble with the hillaryclinton.com blog moderators. i called the dnc(dumb national cupcakes). the might boot the comment off the blog.LOL IM KILLING MYSELF.

  18. HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY HILLARY IS 44! YOU HAVE MADE EVERYDAY A GREAT ONE, BY HAVING SUPPORT FOR US THROUGH THE GOOD AND BAD! I LOVE THE INTERNET!

  19. MUST READ NEWS-
    lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080420/NEWS05/804200386

    April 20, 2008

    Hillary Clinton getting a boost from husband

    Brian Tumulty
    Gannett News Service

    MOON TOWNSHIP, Pa. – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s chances of holding on to her lead going into Tuesday’s Pennsylvania presidential primary appear to be getting a boost from her husband, who’s been dispatched to small towns across the state.

    Autumn Brown of Kittanning, Pa., was among about 400 students and staff members at Robert Morris University who listened to former President Clinton’s presentation in the school’s gymnasium Friday.

    Brown, a 23-year-old senior, said she was leaning toward voting for Hillary Clinton, but the 40-minute speech closed the deal.

    His stump speech combines his natural storytelling ability with his immense command of details on a range of topics, including prototype cars that get 100 miles per gallon, the prospect for increasing life expectancy and his wife’s work as first lady of Arkansas.

    “I was a little curious as to whether I was making the right decision, but I have no doubt after hearing President Clinton speak,” said Brown, who liked Bill Clinton’s explanation of his wife’s education policies.

    Some pundits argue the former president’s occasionally freewheeling comments have hurt his wife’s campaign, but interviews with a mix of Democratic and Republican voters at campaign stops Thursday and Friday found a more forgiving attitude, especially after Sen. Barack Obama’s recent comment about small-town Pennsylvania residents being “bitter.”

    With few exceptions, voters rejected the suggestion that Bill Clinton is a liability to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

    Some said his campaigning is making only a marginal positive difference, while others pointed to the excitement in their communities generated by his visit.

    “I think maybe he converted me,” said April Miller Crance, a 57-year-old Republican who came to hear the former president speak Thursday on the porch of a home in Brookville, Pa., less than a block from her home. The real estate agent said she has witnessed a lot of hardship recently among her clients, and Bill Clinton made a good case for his wife’s plan to address the foreclosure crisis.

    Lester Beers, 78, another Republican at the Brookville speech, also was impressed.

    “I always thought Bill was a real good president, even though I am registered Republican,” Beers said. “I voted for him the last time. He’s a good speaker and what he puts across is very good. I like Hillary. And I like Barack Obama, too. When the time comes, I’ll make a decision who to vote for.”

    Beers was referring to the November general election. That’s because Pennsylvania’s Democratic primary is closed to registered Republicans and independents not affiliated with any party.

    Several hours later, when Bill Clinton took the stage before 1,600 students and parents at Lock Haven University, it marked his 34th campaign stop for his wife in rural Pennsylvania.

    Jared Conti, 29, of Lock Haven is an Obama supporter who said he had doubts about his choice after hearing the former president. “Hearing Bill speak, he seems to have answers laid out much more than Obama,” Conti said. “It does make me think. He seemed to have answers.”

    The former president is keeping up an arduous schedule, making six stops Thursday alone.

    “I loved going into all these small towns,” he said in Brookville. “I’m sort of the designated ambassador to small-town America for the Hillary campaign. But I want to say to all of you how grateful I am. It’s towns like this that have kept her in this race.”

    He pointed to small towns in Texas and Ohio that helped her win the popular vote in those states.

    And he predicted small-town voters can still help her win the Democratic nomination.

    “If Pennsylvania gives her a big win Tuesday,” he said, “she can be the nominee and the next president.”

    Ex-president works overtime

  20. hill going to penn state tonight to court youth vote
    wearecentralpa.com/content/fulltext/?cid=6478

  21. hey this pitts trib endorsement is big-why? look at their reasoning about why obama is no good for the working class-

    In Pennsylvania’s Democrat primary for president: Vote for Clinton
    Sunday, April 20, 2008

    Buzz up!

    For decades, the two major parties have chosen their presidential candidates long before Pennsylvania holds its primary.
    Not this year.

    Ron Paul’s maverick candidacy aside, Republicans have settled on John McCain, whom we previously endorsed. Democrats, however, are still deciding.

    For once, the Keystone State might well determine a party’s nominee.

    story continues below

    If Barack Obama does well here or pulls an upset, the Democrats’ leader in states, delegates and popular votes could be propelled to de facto victory.
    If Hillary Clinton wins as expected, she should be able to fight on to the convention — and a double-digit victory might give her momentum to seize the nomination.

    For Pennsylvania Democrats, the smart choice Tuesday is Mrs. Clinton.

    Mr. Obama’s appeal with many Democrats is undeniable. He is the “rock star” of this election year; some supporters at his rallies have fallen into a swoon.

    Those who have endorsed Obama have rhetorically swooned, too, designating him the future of American politics, while denigrating Clinton as a relic of politics past.

    How ironic, since Obama owes no small part of his success to the grooming and support of Chicago’s old-line Daley political machine.

    In policy terms, relatively little may separate these two. Obama ranks as one of the most liberal U.S. senators, but Clinton is no conservative. Determining how they differ is difficult, though, because Obama is long on soaring rhetoric yet painfully short on record.

    He has spent just three years in the U.S. Senate. Before that, he spent just eight years as one of 177 state legislators in Illinois. Before that, he was a university lecturer, a community organizer, a civil-rights lawyer.

    Quite simply, this is no portfolio for a president, the world’s most powerful leader. The presidency is no place for on-the-job training in the best of times — and certainly not when the nation is at war, the economy is struggling, and federal governance in general is adrift.

    More disturbing is what seems to be Obama’s private view of America.

    Start with the “God damn America” diatribes of his one-time pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. (Obama claims he didn’t know of these, even though he sat in Wright’s church for 20 years.) Add his wife Michelle’s remark about being proud of America for the first time in her life only because of her husband’s campaign.

    Now we hear Obama himself disdaining small-town, Middle-America attitudes and values — a “clinging” to God, guns and bigotry — as a legacy of bitterness.

    Everyone utters stupidities now and then. Yet taken together and uttered repeatedly, they sound like a pattern of thought in the Obama household. It’s a pattern the nation can’t afford in the White House.

    In sharp contrast, Clinton is far more experienced in government — as an engaged first lady to a governor and a president, as a second-term senator in her own right.

    She has a real voting record on key issues. Agree with her or not, you at least know where she stands instead of being forced to wonder.

    Many of her views on domestic issues are too liberal for us, but on others she seems to have moderated. She told the Trib she opposes raising the cap on Social Security taxes, and she is less eager to raise income taxes than Obama.

    More important, she is extremely knowledgeable on crucial foreign issues. Meeting with Trib editors last month, she ticked off an impressive list of international challenges and the solutions. (In Wednesday’s Philadelphia debate, Obama praised George H.W. Bush’s foreign policy — apparently not realizing that one of its architects was then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, a man he regularly excoriates.)

    As we noted at the time of that meeting, Clinton’s decision to sit down with the Trib was courageous, given our longstanding criticism of her. That is no small matter: Political courage is essential in a president. Clinton has demonstrated it; Obama has not.

    She has a real record. He doesn’t.

    She has experience of value to a president. He doesn’t.

    Clearly, she’s the wiser choice to represent Democrats this fall.

  22. Thank you admin and all the contributors to this blog. This was the FIRST pro-Hillary site I found on the web after Iowa. I was never a blog person before the media started piling on Hillary to drop out and saying her campaign was dead after Iowa! I knew something was up. That Chris Matthews & Co. were too eager to push Clinton out of the race too soon. One day of bullshit after Iowa was enough for me to start looking for alternative news sites on the web. Hillary is 44 was one of the first sites that came up when I googled for pro-Hillary sites. Since then the contributors here have led me to many other magnificent pro-Hillary sites. I found out about Anglachel’s Journal on Hillary is 44. I found out about Taylor Marsh on Hillary is 44. I found out about No Quarter and The Confluence on Hillary is 44. All of you have done more than you have realized to help the community of pro-Hillary bloggers establish their base which has grown at an unbelievable rate. Thank you! I don’t think I would’ve lasted this long without lashing out at an Obamabot in real life if it wasn’t for you guys.

  23. Thank you Admin, and congratulations! 🙂 I discovered this site around May/June 2007 in the comments section of Hillary’s offical campaign website and I’ve come back here everyday since.

    I’m proud to call myself a member of this community.

  24. Want to know why Obama wont release his tax records for more than 3 years ago because it paints him as a big fat liar, here he is caught again and THIS MUST get sent to the MSM. Yeah right you were broke!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-michelle-obama_side_bdapr20,0,2337751.story

    How broke were Obamas? Hard to tell

    The Obamas often say they would still be in debt if not for his best-selling books, which began to swell the couple’s bank account in 2005. In fact, for some period of time, Michelle Obama tells audiences, the couple’s college loan payments cost them more than their monthly mortgage.

    As young lawyers, the Obamas pursued non-profit or public service during much of the 1990s. Obama once said he was so broke when he arrived in Los Angeles for the Democratic National Convention in 2000 that his credit card was rejected when he tried to rent a car.

    Still, it’s hard to tell just how broke they were, when and for how long.

    Public records paint only part of the financial picture. In 1993 they bought a condominium in Hyde Park for $277,500, paying about $111,000 as a down payment, according to county real estate records.

    Related links

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    Michelle Obama’s mission: Show voters humble roots

    As for income, they earned a combined household total of slightly more than $240,000 in 2000, according to tax records they have since made public. (Their income fluctuated in that range until 2005, when they reported earning $1.6 million.)

    But it’s unclear how much their college loan debts were, and aides to the Obama campaign said last week that they could not immediately provide records to clarify.

    However, Michelle Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1988 and her husband graduated in 1991, around the time when the school’s dean estimated the cost of a Harvard law degree at $62,200. They both also earned undergraduate degrees from Ivy League schools.

    In 2005, though, Obama told the Tribune that royalties from his first book and advances on the next had cleared up his financial difficulties. The family moved into a $1.6 million home.

  25. About Obama’s terrorist acquaintance
    Steve Chapman

    April 20, 2008

    When William F. Buckley Jr. died in February, one of the things widely praised, by liberals and others, was his stalwart insistence on moral hygiene. Even when his conservative movement was small and embattled, he rejected the temptation to join forces with anti-Semites, the John Birch Society and other extremists. Later, he disavowed longtime confederates Pat Buchanan and Joseph Sobran for the sin of bigotry.

    Buckley knew the importance of choosing allies carefully. But some people who expect such care from conservatives don’t practice it themselves.

    Among many liberals, extremism in the defense of “social justice” is no vice. When the folk singer Pete Seeger got a medal from President Clinton, no one cared that he was a veteran apologist for Stalin and that he still regarded himself as a communist. That indifference betrayed a double standard that conscientious liberals should reject.

    By that standard, Barack Obama is a liberal, but not a conscientious one. I don’t much care if he declines to wear a flag pin; I can overlook his wife’s limited capacity for patriotic pride; and I defended his relationship with his former pastor. But his comfortable association with an unrepentant former terrorist should induce queasiness in anyone who shares the humane values that Obama extols.

    When the issue came up in Wednesday’s Democratic debate, the Illinois senator tried to duck it. “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from,” he said. He added that to suggest “knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense.”

    Obama went on, “I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions. Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements?”

    This exercise in moral equivalence is unconvincing, if not dishonest. Would Obama be friendly with someone who actually bombed abortion clinics and defends that conduct? Not likely. But he is friendly with William Ayers, a leader of the radical Weather Underground, which in the 1970s carried out numerous bombings, including one inside the U.S. Capitol. (Though the last person who should object is Hillary Clinton, whose husband pardoned two Weather Underground members.)

    Obama minimized his relationship by acknowledging only that he knows Ayers. But they have quite a bit more of a connection than that. He’s appeared on panels with Ayers, served on a foundation board with him and held a 1995 campaign event at the home of Ayers and his wife, fellow former terrorist Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers even gave money to one of his campaigns.

    It’s not as though Ayers and Dohrn have denied or repudiated their crimes. After emerging from years in hiding, they escaped federal prosecution because of government misconduct in gathering evidence, but they don’t pretend they were innocent. In 2001, Ayers said, “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.”

    Dohrn has likewise rationalized the explosions, claiming that “our acts of resistance were tiny and symbolic.” She even went to prison for refusing to testify about an armored-car robbery involving her confederates. That crime was not tiny or symbolic to the two police officers or the security guard who were shot to death in the process.

    All this is public record, and Barack Obama would have to be in a coma not to know it. Yet he showed no qualms about consorting with Ayers and Dohrn.

    It’s hard to imagine he would be so indulgent if we learned that John McCain had a long association with a former Klansman who used to terrorize African-Americans. Obama’s conduct exposes a moral blind spot about these onetime terrorists, who get a pass because they a) fall on the left end of the spectrum and b) haven’t planted any bombs lately.

    You can tell a lot about someone from his choice of friends. What this friendship reveals is that when it comes to practicing sound moral hygiene, Obama has work to do and no interest in doing it.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-oped0420chapmanapr20,1,2187217,print.column

  26. Dohrn has likewise rationalized the explosions, claiming that “our acts of resistance were tiny and symbolic.” She even went to prison for refusing to testify about an armored-car robbery involving her confederates. That crime was not tiny or symbolic to the two police officers or the security guard who were shot to death in the process.

    What the writer fails to mention that this was in fact the murder of the first black police officer on the NYACK force so why is Obama defending someone who did that. Do you think the AA community would be happy with Obama and his friends if they knew that?

  27. Backers like Clinton’s chances
    By KEVIN P. CRAVER – kcraver@nwherald.com

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, once the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, trails Barack Obama in delegates, states won and popular votes.

    With Pennsylvania’s 158 delegates at stake in Tuesday’s primary, there’s going to be growing pressure for Clinton to bow out of the race if she doesn’t win, and win big.

    But local supporters of Clinton’s presidential ambitions are far from ready to write her political obituary.

    “I hear that in the media; that’s absurd,” said state Rep. Jack Franks, who co-chairs Clinton’s state campaign committee. “Neither one right now has enough to win. She’s going to have the momentum, and she’s probably going to win in the popular vote. She’s certainly going to win if you count Florida and Michigan.”

    Heading into Tuesday’s primary, Obama leads Clinton in the national popular vote by about 700,000 votes, without counting contests in Florida and Michigan. The Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates because they violated party rules by moving their primaries before Feb. 5.

    But it’s not the popular vote that counts. It’s the delegates. And depending on the media source cited, Obama leads in pledged delegates by anywhere from about 130 to about 160.

    The Democratic candidate needs 2,025 delegates – including superdelegates held by Democratic Party leaders who can commit their vote at any time, change their mind, or wait until the state’s convention Aug. 25-28 in Denver – to secure the presidential nomination. The Associated Press has Obama with 1,645 delegates (including superdelegates) to Clinton’s 1,507, a 138-delegate advantage.

    An additional 566 delegates are at stake in the remaining contests in eight states, Guam and Puerto Rico before the primary season ends June 3.

    If Obama captures 53 percent of them, which is the share that he has gained in contests to date, he would close out the primary season with at least 1,945 delegates, only 80 fewer than the total needed to clinch the nomination. If he and Clinton split the 566 evenly, he still would be within 100 of the number needed.

    Clinton needs to win 65 percent of the delegates in the remaining primaries to draw even with Obama in pledged delegates. It’s a share that she has achieved only once so far, in Arkansas, where her husband was governor for more than a decade.

    Polls show that Clinton is expected to win Pennsylvania, but Obama, who has significantly outspent her, has closed the gap in the past month. And unlike the Republican primary process in which the winner of a state typically captures all its delegates, the Democrats reward them proportionally based on vote percentage.

    In short, Clinton needs a decisive victory to capture as many of the state’s 158 pledged delegates as possible to chip away at Obama’s lead.

    Former McHenry County Democratic Party Chairman Patrick Ouimet, also a Clinton backer, does not want voters to be denied a voice in the remaining seven states after Pennsylvania and two U.S. territories yet to hold Democratic primaries.

    “I think she’s got a very good chance,” Ouimet said. “I think she’s going to keep in the campaign through June in the primaries. I think both candidates have every right to appeal to the voters in the remaining primary states.”

    Many party leaders, however, are concerned that a protracted primary battle that lasts to the convention will hurt the Democrats’ chances of getting their nominee into the White House.

    Ultimately, it’s likely going to be the superdelegates, which the party officially calls party leaders and elected officials, or PLEOs, who will decide the nomination. And there is growing pressure on the uncommitted superdelegates to make a choice.

    U.S. Rep. Melissa Bean is a superdelegate who already has pledged her support for Obama. The Barrington Democrat said those who cited Pennsylvania as a possible breakthrough state for Clinton’s campaign were off target.

    “I think you could go back to the Clinton camp’s goal post that they have moved about a dozen times,” said Bean, who also cited Obama’s lead in Newsweek’s latest national poll and in North Carolina, which votes May 6. “Every time, it was going to be this state or it was going to be that state, and that just hasn’t been the case. This is just yet another goal post that they’ve moved.”

    Bean praised Clinton but said Obama would preserve his lead because he appealed to people across generations and in all regions of the country. Bean visited Pennsylvania two weeks ago to campaign for Obama, whom she said had a unique ability to inspire people.

    “Hillary is competent, she’s capable, and she’s widely respected,” Bean said. “I think she has run a very disciplined campaign and she has been very hardworking. But what her campaign didn’t count on was Barack Obama. They didn’t count on running into the kind of palpable excitement that he brings to the table.”

    One argument that Clinton supporters are using to fight the notion that she should bow out is that she has a better chance to win the general election. Franks argued that Clinton’s victories over Obama in states such as Ohio prove that she can put those states up for grabs in November.

    But Obama can make the same argument when it comes to the South, said Matthew Streb, an assistant political science professor at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb. The last time that a Democratic presidential ticket won any Southern states was Bill Clinton’s successful 1996 re-election.

    However, Streb, like Franks, pointed out that Clinton’s victories had been in the big-delegate states that will matter more in November.

    “The one thing missing from Obama’s electoral résumé is a win in a large electoral vote state that isn’t named ‘Illinois,’” Streb said.

    Streb said one significant downside to a down-to-the-wire candidate campaign was that the negative campaigning by both Clinton and Obama could disillusion Democratic voters and lessen the time that the candidates have to prepare for November.

    But Ouimet thinks otherwise.

    “This is very, very good for the party; it’s good for the country,” Ouimet said. “It raises the issues – health care, Iraq war policy – and at the end of the day, the individual voters of the remaining states should decide, not political insiders.”
    http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2008/04/20/news/local/doc480b1abc43ceb430516651.txt

  28. Clinton Gains With Pennsylvanians
    Appealing to the state’s Catholic voters takes more than faith appeal.
    By KIMBERLY HEFLING & ERIC GORSKI
    The Associated Press
    SCRANTON, Pa. | Understanding Pennsylvania’s rich Catholic tradition and responding to it is an article of faith for Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama as the Tuesday primary looms in the still unsettled and intense Democratic presidential race.

    It’s a way of life – and of thinking – well-known to the people of Scranton, a working-class city nestled in northeast Pennsylvania where earlier generations worked in the factories, mills and coal mines – and kneeled in prayer in Catholic church pews on Sunday morning.

    On Election Day of yesteryear, large numbers of Pennsylvania Catholics evoked the name of Franklin D. Roosevelt and voted Democratic.

    This year, Clinton has fared well among Catholic voters in early primary states and she holds a substantial lead over Obama among Catholic Democrats in Pennsylvania polls. Some analysts argue, however, that Catholic voters’ race, age and economic status – rather than religion – are more likely to play a greater role in determining their vote.

    Pennsylvania has an estimated 3.8 million Catholics, or just over 30 percent of the state’s population, and the percentage among Democrats is estimated to be slightly higher.

    Scranton is the hometown of the late Gov. Robert P. Casey, a feisty Catholic politician who stood up to the Democratic Party over abortion. Pennsylvania’s version of the so-called “Reagan Democrat” willing to buck the party on such issues are called “Casey Democrats,” and they are a critical voting bloc in Pennsylvania.

    “Those so-called Casey Democrats will be looking for a broad agenda on social justice, economic justice and a recognition by the candidate, by our nominee that he or she will be someone who can talk about their faith, but more important than that, can listen to them, listen to what their concerns are and also listen to them about their faith and their point of view,” said Bob Casey Jr., Pennsylvania’s junior senator and the son of the former governor. He has endorsed Obama in the primary.

    Obama, unwilling to concede the Catholic vote, plans small round-table meetings and “listening sessions” with Catholic voters in Pennsylvania’s urban and rural areas, as well as e-mails and phone banks targeting Catholics.

    In a nod to the diverse concerns of Catholic voters, the meetings will focus on Obama’s stands on the economy, jobs and health care, said former Indiana Rep. Tim Roemer, who has been reaching out to fellow Catholics on the campaign’s behalf. One goal is to gauge how issues such as race and the inflammatory remarks of Obama spiritual mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, are playing with Catholics, Roemer said.

    “We found Catholic voters aren’t really a lot different in terms of many of their concerns than the average voter,” Roemer said.

    Clinton backers Kathleen Kennedy Townsend and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., last week wrote a letter to Pennsylvania Catholics emphasizing her plans on health care, mortgage foreclosures and fuel costs.

    Clinton spokesman Mark Nevins said Catholics connect with Clinton’s message and Pennsylvanians value her ties to Scranton, where her father was born and raised and she was christened at the Court Street Methodist Church.

    In the 1960s, Catholics overwhelmingly supported John F. Kennedy, the only Catholic elected to the White House. In recent years, many have moved toward Republican candidates, drawn by the party’s opposition to abortion. In the last presidential election, some U.S. bishops were outspoken in criticizing Catholic politicians who support abortion rights in conflict with church teaching, including 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

    President Bush, a Methodist who opposes abortion rights, won 52 percent of the Catholic vote against Kerry, the practicing Catholic, in 2004.

    This election, available exit polls show Clinton with a 61-35 percent edge over Obama among Catholic voters. A recent Quinnipiac University poll showed her leading Obama 70-24 percent among Pennsylvania Catholics.

    Clinton is a Methodist and Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ. Both candidates support abortion rights.

    Analysts wonder whether Clinton is doing well with some Catholics because they also are part of her base, including Hispanics, blue-collar voters and older women. With traditional Democrats who are Catholic, the perception is that Clinton is more of a known quantity who paid her dues in the party.

    David Leege, an emeritus professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame, contends that a strong woman leader who can make it in a man’s world appeals to a generation of Catholic women who worked outside the home before most of their Protestant neighbors.

    “For many of them, Hillary Rodham Clinton represents a hero,” he said.

    A woman candidate appeals to Dorothy Bouselli, 81, a Catholic who joined other senior citizens at the Dunmore Community Center outside of Scranton for a lunch of pierogis, the potato-filled, Eastern European-style dumplings.

    “It’s time for a woman to come in and clean house,” Bouselli said.

    In 2006, Casey’s son handily defeated Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, a fellow Catholic, by winning a majority of the Catholic vote and gaining back some voters who had shifted to the Republican Party. Like his father, the younger Casey opposes abortion rights.

    Even he acknowledges that a “Casey Democrat” is difficult to define. He noted that while his father was socially conservative, he was progressive in appointing women and minorities and going after polluters, as well as starting Pennsylvania’s children’s health insurance program.

    “I don’t think you can necessarily reliably predict how Catholics will vote,” said the younger Casey. “Some Catholic voters will put more of an emphasis on social justice. Some will put more weight on the war. Others will put more weight on the issue of abortion.”

    Christina Drogalis, 21, from Old Forge, is a Catholic and student at the same university. She supports Obama.

    “I think Hillary Clinton might have too much of a legacy. It sort of feels to me too much of the same old thing,” Drogalis said.

    At the community center, the same old thing isn’t such a bad thing to C.J. Sleyo, 90, a Catholic who plans to vote for Clinton. The retired teacher recalled fondly that as a kid, “We were Democrats with FDR and that kept it going.”
    http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080419/NEWS/804190400/1326&template=printart

  29. Hillary leads in Pennsylvania, including among bowlers, gun owners
    By STEVEN THOMMA
    McClatchy Newspapers
    Hillary Clinton leads among bowlers, gun owners and hunters in Pennsylvania, a blue-collar trifecta that is helping her hold an edge over rival Barack Obama heading into Tuesday’s pivotal primary there.

    The New York senator leads by solid margins in all three slices of working-class Pennsylvania – the political battleground where the two Democrats have waged war for control of the state, according to a new poll conducted for McClatchy Newspapers, MSNBC and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

    The one group where she does not have a solid lead is among beer drinkers; they split evenly between her and the Illinois senator.

    Overall, Clinton leads Obama by a margin of 48-43 percent, with 8 percent still undecided. The telelphone survey of 635 likely Pennsylvania voters was taken April 17-18 and had an error margin of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

    “Clinton leads in Pennsylvania,” said Brad Coker, the managing partner for Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, which conducted the poll.

    “However, the lead doesn’t indicate she’s going to win by a large enough margin to make a serious impact on Obama’s overall delegate lead.”

    Clinton leads among women, whites, Roman Catholics and Jews, voters older than 35, those looking for experience and those who rank Iraq, the economy or health care their top issues.

    She also leads in central and rural Pennsylvania as well as the Pittsburgh area.

    “She’s a woman, that’s the main reason,” said Catherine Nichols, a retired receptionist from New Providence, explaining why she prefers Clinton. “And she has the experience from being in the White House for so many years.”

    Obama leads among blacks, voters younger than 35, Protestants, and those looking for change or honesty.

    He leads in the Philadelphia area.

    “I’m getting tired of the same old thing over and over. It’s time for a change,” said William Allen, a retiree from Philadelphia. “He just has a different way of thinking and bringing people together.”

    Despite Obama’s solid support in some areas, Coker said that Pennsylvania’s demographics make it difficult for him to win, given his inability to draw more support from whites, the working class, or older voters. Obama pulled just 33 percent of the white vote, but 83 percent of the black vote.

    “I would be surprised if Obama won Pennsylvania,” Coker said. “There are not enough African-American and young voters. It’s one of the older states.”

    Ever since the two clashed in Ohio in early March – where she won with heavy support from the white working class – the two candidates have sparred over that key voting bloc in Pennsylvania.

    Their campaign’s been marked by sharp disagreements over his comments claiming that small-town Pennsylvanians cling to religion and guns out of bitterness over their economic anxiety, as well as inflammatory sermons by Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    They’ve also offered dueling photo opportunities, with Obama bowling on camera, and Clinton downing a shot of whiskey and a beer.

    Many voters dismissed such efforts as silly or superficial – or said they had the opposite effect than the campaigns intended.

    Most saw clips of Obama bowling, for example, and several noted that he was bad at it.

    “I saw the gutter ball. Why make an idiot of yourself?” said John Ferko, a retired postal worker from Phoenixville, Pa., who supports Clinton.

    Indeed, Clinton seems to have won the better part of the culture clash, leading among hunters by a margin of 56-31 percent, among bowlers by 54-33 percent, and among gun owners by 53-28 percent.
    http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/583741.html

  30. I think PA is going to be better than we think.

    Question is, if she blows him out by 15 to 20%, we should start level the same thing he’s been laying at Hillary, time for you to pull out of the race, if its good for the goose, its good for the gander.

    Or do we simply say, you have no right to ask HRC to leave the race.

  31. Elite Democrats Historically Lose
    By Salena Zito
    Sunday, April 20, 2008

    When it comes to racial issues, the 2008 Democrat primary has been lowered to the most politically correct campaign in history. So low that it has smudged the lens in the way we look at both of the Democrats’ candidates.

    Political correctness or “PC” — a clothesline tool typically used as a wedge issue against Republicans — has backfired. To steal a phrase from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, PC is “coming home to roost” for Democrats.

    Purdue University political science professor Bert Rockman says we need to thicken our skins when it comes to race.

    “Why did anybody take umbrage at Bill Clinton’s remark about Jesse Jackson in South Carolina when it was patently correct?” he asks. Everyone knows that blacks are voting heavily for Barack Obama, he explains, and only a moron would be surprised.

    Because of PC, race is the elephant in the room that no one is supposed to talk about, except to remark on how enlightening it is for America to have a black candidate for president.

    Fair enough: That is a huge story. But at some point the lens should focus past Obama’s oratorical skills and his skin color to see who this man is who wants to lead our country.

    Obama is black by heritage but also a product of liberal elitism, which appears to drive his thinking: Poor kid from single-parent home gets access to the best schools, the best opportunities, and is groomed for greatness.

    Nothing wrong with that. Jack Kennedy’s father groomed eldest son Joe for the presidency and, when tragedy struck, turned his attention to Jack. That’s the American way.

    That same “American way” led a young Obama to move to Chicago to become a community organizer and to join the church he chose — to groom his political career. It is why he enlisted David Axelrod, strategist to the Chicago Democrat machine of Mayor Richard Daley, to handle his campaign; his bid for a U.S. Senate seat under machine-politics tutelage was won without any real challenge.

    Political grooming also is why John Kerry picked Obama to give a keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

    To Obama’s credit, he has met and exceeded expectations, has delivered in every sense of the word. However, his thinking hovers on liberal elite. That is why his comment in San Francisco about embittered Middle America was so revealing about who and what he is. Yet because of race, his political veneer was not scratched.

    In ideology, is he different from Mike Dukakis, John Kerry, Al Gore or George McGovern? Probably not. He just looks really cool saying the kind of things once said by those four men who lost the presidency for the Democrats.

    And why did they lose? In large part, because of a lack of connection with bread-and-butter Democrats.

    Love him or hate him, give Bill Clinton his due: He fought for the presidency against all odds, from a small white Southern town; when he won, he delivered without ever embracing liberal elitism.

    That is part of the price Hillary Clinton is paying in this primary: The party’s liberal-elite side resents Bill’s performance, especially his move to the right after winning the White House but then losing Congress in 1994.

    Clinton did it to survive. But Kerry, Gore or even George W. Bush would never have compromised that way, because their elite upbringing does not allow them to think that way.

    Compare this with two modern presidents who are widely remembered and admired: William Jefferson Clinton and Ronald Wilson Reagan.

    Neither came from or had access to the elite system, though at times they brushed against it; when push came to shove, they rejected it for their own survival. Both deeply wanted people to like them because of their upbringings — both came from poor families in small-town America with abusive, alcoholic fathers.

    Democrats will be successful in November only if they pick a candidate who mirrors the successful tickets that won the 2006 midterm elections — candidates who connected with average Americans.

    If the candidate who emerges from this primary season echoes the liberal elitism of McGovern, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry, then Democrats should start bracing for a losing year, one they should have easily won.
    http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/SalenaZito/2008/04/20/elite_democrats_historically_lose

  32. Clinton gets backing of Niles’ Tim Ryan
    Sunday, April 20, 2008Sabrina EatonPlain Dealer Bureau
    On the weekend before Pennsylvania’s make-or-break Democratic primary, Rep. Tim Ryan of Niles announced his support Saturday for Hillary Clinton’s presidential candidacy. The congressman, a super delegate to the Democratic National Convention, cited Clinton’s overwhelming backing in his district, as well as her experience and economic platform.

    Clinton said she was “honored” to have Ryan’s support and called him “a vital voice for the rights of our working class.”

    “I look forward to having his help spreading our message of change and experience throughout Ohio and the United States,” Clinton said in a press release.

    Ryan’s announcement came the day after Copley Township Democratic Rep. Betty Sutton, another super delegate, declared support for Clinton. Like Ryan, she said she was following the will of Democrats in her district, who backed Clinton in Ohio’s March 4 primary. Clinton is now backed by seven of the state’s 21 super delegates, while rival Barack Obama has support from four.

    Ryan had initially endorsed Connecticut Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd’s presidential bid. Poor showings in early primary states drove Dodd out of the race. Dodd threw his support to Obama shortly before Ohio’s primary.
    http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/120868032089690.xml&coll=2

  33. Obama trying to say Clinton changes her message wherever she is, lol, is this fuckwit serious.

    He invented that this campaign, yup if he accuses her of it, you can be sure he’s the one doing it.

  34. Anyone else get the feeling Obama is in panic mode this weekend, it looks like he’s is trying to throw the sink at Hillary, he’s scared obviously.

  35. the best thing Dot is, is the hypocrisy, yesterday he was decying this a distractive politics, and what the hell is he doing today, same old nasty politics, someone needs to call his ass out on this bigtime.

  36. what really disturbs me the most is that the party elite has signalled they don’t care about Wright, Ayers, etc. They want him to be the nominee .. regardless of what comes past June. This is scary.

  37. Well, I think there is going to be something said about that, it needs to be said and said harshly and clearly.

  38. More politcs as usual from the Obama campaign in order to pull a miracle and win in PA. He won’t do it but he’s doing the best that he can to make sure she doesn’t win by 10 points or more. From TalkLeft:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/20/84659/8192
    Is Obama Trying To Depress White Turnout In PA?

    As Jeralyn noted yesterday, the Barack Obama campaign turned sharply negative this weekend. There are a number of reasons why a campaign might go negative. But strangely, I think John Zogby, of all people, may have hit on the reason:

    If this small group of white/Catholic undecideds do not vote, Obama can win Pennsylvania if he is able to get out his base of young voters, African American voters, and Very Liberal voters. If those white/Catholics do vote, then they will probably vote for Clinton and she can conceivably meet the 10-point victory threshold that meets pundits’ expectations. It looked like she was moving some of these voters after the debate, but today is a different story. Too soon to tell.”

    Knowing he can not win their votes, Obama could be attempting to have these voters not vote at all. This is “politics as usual” of course but it is striking when compared to the rhetoric of the Obama campaign.

  39. The sad fucker has done everything to supress voters rights more so than Bush did in 2000 and they call him a democrat, I am going to shout this from every rooftop – Obama thinks your vote does not matter if its not for him.

  40. Admin, you need to get all over the following quote from John Kerry in today’s Newsweek:

    “Faced with criticisms about his faith, Obama gave one of the most eloquent, brave and bracingly honest speeches I have ever heard a politician give.”

    This is utter tripe. Barack was never criticized for his faith. Never. Not once.

  41. Does anyone even listen to what John Kerry has to say anymore? He is supporting Obama because like the rest of the losers in our party, he wants to look hip and cool and progressive. Even Obama can’t help Kerry do that. He is a screw up and a joke. I would actually love to see what he has to say when either Clinton wins or Obama loses the general election. What makes me bitter is that I wasted my time in college campaigning for his wimpy ass when those hours could’ve been spent enjoying my youth and partying. I’ll never get that back that time again 😛

  42. Someone on Taylor Marsh says that Obama recently has been doing the “face scratch” in speeches a lot. They postulate that he is doing it deliberately, so that he can say “See, I do it all the time! It’s an innocent gesture!”

    *cue big lying innocent doe-eyes*

    What a lying weener.

  43. Campaign on the Attack in Last Weekend of Pennsylvania Primary
    From: Howard Wolfson, Communications Director
    To: Interested Parties
    Date: Saturday, April 19, 2008
    Re: Obama Campaign On The Attack In Last Weekend Of Pennsylvania Primary

    A major theme of Sen. Obama on the stump is that Hillary Clinton is running a negative campaign based on “slash and burn politics” and that he represents a break from that kind of politics. In fact, in just the last 48-hours, Sen. Obama has flooded airwaves, radio, phone lines and mailboxes with negative and false attacks against Hillary. This unprecedented barrage coincides with a weak debate performance and Sen. Obama’s slide in the daily Gallup poll.

    1. In the most outrageous attack of the campaign, Obama surrogates held a conference call attacking Hillary’s character, claiming she did not have the “moral authority” to lay a wreath on the Tomb on the Unknown Soldier. [Link]

    2. Launched a television ad featuring false, negative attacks on Hillary’s health care plan. [Link]

    3. Distributed negative mail about Hillary’s trade positions, complete with citations even Sen. Obama has acknowledged have been debunked. [Link]

    4. Flooded voters with robocalls saying Hillary will “say anything” to win.

  44. Obama has no concern for voters rights – he is a puppet of a long planned effort – the extent to which, I believe, will shock most if not nearly all – the republican and left-wing democratic elite essentially have the same agenda –

  45. people in PA, please collect those negative flyers, record negative radio, tv ads, and phone calls etc. and send them to DNC.
    make it clear that we will walk out the party forever if they nominate BHO.

  46. You can register at the American Leadership Project’s web site here:

    leadership-project.info/

    Send money.

  47. MTP,

    I gotta say, Geoff Garin is a little too laid-back for my taste and Axelrod is taking full advantage of it. Wolfson is more aggressive.

    And about Stephanopolous saying Ozomba’s supporters are more ‘passionate,” citing their response to the ABC debate, haven’t these people ever heard about astro-turfing, hacking, internet robo-calling, robo-voting?

  48. basil,
    It’s painful to watch. I’m not going to crucify him because he hasn’t been there long, but mentioning FLA & MI is something he should’ve considered!
    Shoulda been Wolfson,not doubt.

  49. Happy belated Birthday to Admin and Hillary is 44! This site has consistently been ahead of the curve on major news stories affecting the campaign for the democratic nomination, and at the forefront in battling the influence of BM and their minions. H44 has been a major force in organizing Hillary’s supporters around the globe and providing a forum to share ideas, blow off steam and trade recipes(lol), an oasis away from the blare of the talking heads and the pre-scripted narrative that is BM. While the Realist doesn’t post every day, H44 is at the top of my daily reading list and is always a source of great intel and reports from the field by REAL folks getting their hands dirty and fighting the good fight.
    So, to Admin (I no longer care who you are, as you are US) and to my many brothers and sisters in spirit who frequent this site;

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY HILLARY IS 44! I can hardly wait to read your posts during the GENERAL ELECTION when we take the White House…

  50. 4/20/2008
    Hillary Clinton Responds to New Attack Ad Released Today by the Obama Campaign
    New Obama Attack Ad Features False And Widely Discredited Claims About Hillary’s Health Care Plan
    Hillary Clinton today responded to a new attack ad launched by Senator Obama’s campaign. Hillary made the following statement at a “Solutions for the America” event this afternoon in York, PA:

    “I just heard that my opponent has put up an ad attacking my health care plan, which is kind of curious, because my plan covers everybody and his leaves out 15 million people – just leaves them out in the cold.

    “Now, instead of attacking the problem, he chooses to attack my solution.

    “I don’t think that we can just make speeches about this – we have to have a plan that we can actually implement that will provide quality affordable health care. That’s what I’ve been fighting for for 15 years, and that’s what I will fight for as your president.”

    Get the facts here.

    Sen. Obama is attacking Hillary Clinton about health care in a television advertisement with claims that have been widely discredited by experts.

    1. The Obama ad claims that Hillary’s “plan forces everyone to buy insurance even if you can’t afford it.” Health policy expert Ken Thorpe reviewed this claim and found it to be false. Under Hillary’s plan, everyone will be able to afford coverage.

    “Ken Thorpe, a health-policy expert at Emory University who has advised all three major Democrats, said he ran cost estimates for the Clinton plan at the Clinton campaign’s request, and found there should be enough money to make insurance affordable for all.” [Wall Street Journal, 12/5/07]

    2. The advertisement also claims that that Hillary’s plan would make people who fail to enroll “pay a penalty.” Sen. Obama’s own plan would fine parents who fail to enroll their children and he has said he will consider imposing penalties on people who don’t enroll.

    Hillary would consider a range of ideas, including automatic enrollment, to ensure everyone is covered. Sen. Obama’s plan, would, experts agree, leave 15 million people out.

    3. The ad also claims that Sen. Obama’s plan reduces costs more than Hillary’s plan. There is no citation for this claim because it is false. Hillary’s plan has more aggressive cost cutting measures and has more generous subsides. Because Sen. Obama’s plan leaves 15 million people out, it would drive costs up, because everyone would have to subsidize emergency care for the uninsured.

  51. most white catholics are at mass during this show, I really doubt many watch pumkinhead politics! Axelrod is a skilled liar as is Obama!

  52. > But it’s unclear how much their college loan debts were, and aides to the
    > Obama campaign said last week that they could not immediately provide
    > records to clarify.

    > However, Michelle Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1988 and
    > her husband graduated in 1991, around the time when the school’s dean
    > estimated the cost of a Harvard law degree at $62,200. They both also
    > earned undergraduate degrees from Ivy League schools.

    I don’t have a degree from Harvard or Princeton; my wife doesn’t have any
    degrees at all. But in my basement is a box with my returns from 2000 to
    2007. And I have returns going back to the 1970s in notebooks and in another
    plastic box. If you want to be president, presumably, you’d be good at keeping
    your records organized.

  53. # HillaryforTexas Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 9:39 am

    Someone on Taylor Marsh says that Obama recently has been doing the “face scratch” in speeches a lot. They postulate that he is doing it deliberately, so that he can say “See, I do it all the time! It’s an innocent gesture!”

    **************************************

    I noticed him doing it yesterday as well………..BUT!!!!!!! HE CAN NOT CHANGE FILM COVERAGE PRIOR TO THE FAMOUS “FINGER-GATE”………IT WOULD BE PLAIN TO SEE HE DID NOT DO IT PRIOR TO…. AND THAT IT IS A RECENT PLOY TO LIE.

  54. This is a great article

    For decades, the two major parties have chosen their presidential candidates long before Pennsylvania holds its primary.
    Not this year.

    Ron Paul’s maverick candidacy aside, Republicans have settled on John McCain, whom we previously endorsed. Democrats, however, are still deciding.

    For once, the Keystone State might well determine a party’s nominee.

    story continues below

    If Barack Obama does well here or pulls an upset, the Democrats’ leader in states, delegates and popular votes could be propelled to de facto victory.
    If Hillary Clinton wins as expected, she should be able to fight on to the convention — and a double-digit victory might give her momentum to seize the nomination.

    For Pennsylvania Democrats, the smart choice Tuesday is Mrs. Clinton.

    Mr. Obama’s appeal with many Democrats is undeniable. He is the “rock star” of this election year; some supporters at his rallies have fallen into a swoon.

    Those who have endorsed Obama have rhetorically swooned, too, designating him the future of American politics, while denigrating Clinton as a relic of politics past.

    How ironic, since Obama owes no small part of his success to the grooming and support of Chicago’s old-line Daley political machine.

    In policy terms, relatively little may separate these two. Obama ranks as one of the most liberal U.S. senators, but Clinton is no conservative. Determining how they differ is difficult, though, because Obama is long on soaring rhetoric yet painfully short on record.

    He has spent just three years in the U.S. Senate. Before that, he spent just eight years as one of 177 state legislators in Illinois. Before that, he was a university lecturer, a community organizer, a civil-rights lawyer.

    Quite simply, this is no portfolio for a president, the world’s most powerful leader. The presidency is no place for on-the-job training in the best of times — and certainly not when the nation is at war, the economy is struggling, and federal governance in general is adrift.

    More disturbing is what seems to be Obama’s private view of America.

    Start with the “God damn America” diatribes of his one-time pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. (Obama claims he didn’t know of these, even though he sat in Wright’s church for 20 years.) Add his wife Michelle’s remark about being proud of America for the first time in her life only because of her husband’s campaign.

    Now we hear Obama himself disdaining small-town, Middle-America attitudes and values — a “clinging” to God, guns and bigotry — as a legacy of bitterness.

    Everyone utters stupidities now and then. Yet taken together and uttered repeatedly, they sound like a pattern of thought in the Obama household. It’s a pattern the nation can’t afford in the White House.

    In sharp contrast, Clinton is far more experienced in government — as an engaged first lady to a governor and a president, as a second-term senator in her own right.

    She has a real voting record on key issues. Agree with her or not, you at least know where she stands instead of being forced to wonder.

    Many of her views on domestic issues are too liberal for us, but on others she seems to have moderated. She told the Trib she opposes raising the cap on Social Security taxes, and she is less eager to raise income taxes than Obama.

    More important, she is extremely knowledgeable on crucial foreign issues. Meeting with Trib editors last month, she ticked off an impressive list of international challenges and the solutions. (In Wednesday’s Philadelphia debate, Obama praised George H.W. Bush’s foreign policy — apparently not realizing that one of its architects was then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, a man he regularly excoriates.)

    As we noted at the time of that meeting, Clinton’s decision to sit down with the Trib was courageous, given our longstanding criticism of her. That is no small matter: Political courage is essential in a president. Clinton has demonstrated it; Obama has not.

    She has a real record. He doesn’t.

    She has experience of value to a president. He doesn’t.

    Clearly, she’s the wiser choice to represent Democrats this fall.

  55. GREAT BREAKING NEWS FOR HILLARY:
    THe PGH TRIBUNE REVIEW HAS ENDORESED HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT.This is the Paper owned by Richard Mellon Scaife,the Financial bankroller of the campaign to Impeach Bill Clinton. Since then he no doubt experienced BUYERS REMORSE.He has contributed to Pres.Clinton’s Efforts world wide,to fight Aids,Hunger,Poverty and Ethnic Cleansing. Mr.Scaife finds that Obama,is not the answer to this country’s fight to stabilize and restore the us to honor and respect worldwide. Hillary supporters,this is one big victory for her.Scaife waited until he and his editorial board could interview both candidates. He too has recognized that:

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE ”

    BY ABM90 A really happy old guy anxious to drive himself to the Firehouse to cast the most important of his long life on TUES.

  56. “If they say you can’t win it’s because they’re afraid you will. And Hillary will win for you.” Bill Clinton in Pennsylvania, just now, via C-SPAN.

  57. I only caught the tail end of BC on cspan just now , but in time to hear him say these two very crucial things
    that hopefully will be next weeks headlines 😀

    “WHEN EVER SOMEONE IS TELLING YOU TO QUIT, IT’S BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID YOU WON’T”

    “WHEN EVER SOMEONE SAYS YOU CANT WIN IT’S BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID YOU CAN”

  58. MerrimackValley,

    Do not forget that his record from his years in the Illinois Senate cannot be “located” either.

    Did anyone watch CNN last night with Rick Sanchez? Someone of their “pretty Boys”
    (sorry Pretty Young Men “PYM”) interviewed Bob Johnson who started BET and Johnson repeated what he said before that Gerry Ferraro was correct in what she said.

    There was also some talk show host who said that Hillary was saying that Oblameless was an “uppity black” when they say that he is elitist.

    Thanks to this site for keeping me sane during this process.

    HILLARY SHOULD NOT DROP OUT, BUT TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION FLOOR.

    And to think that in 2004 I thought that Dean was unfairly drummed out of the race.

  59. An emailer begged us to post this youtube for our Anniversary. Maybe we will update the frontpage with it for fun. It’s the Meet The Press show featuring Big Pink.

  60. Teddy Kennedy is surfacing!!!

    he’s stumping for BO today on cspan @1:45 (et?) today

    do you suppose this is out of REAL FEAR from the falling numbers? 😀

  61. Rassmussen must begrudgingly releasing figures

    Today John McCain beats Obama 48 to 42, but only beats Hillary 48 to 44, so who’s the more electable, lol.

  62. hehe Kennedy really does some good when he stumps for Obama, last time he did it in Mass, he lost the state, his own state by 15%, keep going teddy.

  63. The MSM is seeing this endorsement by Scaife as a big deal and word is, it is sending a strong message to republicans to vote for Hillary in the Primary and take Obama down.

    Richard Mellon Scaife (of right wing conspiracy fame) endorsed Clinton in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. Scaife owns the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which threw its backing to Clinton today. It cites Clinton’s “political courage” in particular for sitting down with its editorial board.

    The paper said, in part: “Clinton’s decision to sit down with the Trib was courageous, given our longstanding criticism of her. That is no small matter: Political courage is essential in a president. Clinton has demonstrated it; Obama has not.”

  64. Good morning! I actually didn’t think Garin did such a bad job, he contrasted with Axelrod with Axelgrease looking like the back-room machine political operative he is, and Garin looking thoughtful and sincere. I do wish he would have brought up Michigan and Florida though.

  65. I loved that endorsement from the Trib. It says a lot. Every other major newspaper has been in the pocket of the BO campaign. Great to see, someone making an independent judgement.

  66. Well, that is good news about Scaife, some people take along time to realize what kind of person Senator Clinton is! We all knew this years ago! LOL!! I am happy with the endorsement, especially with msm screwing her over every damn day!

  67. hey, I want to see that we don’t have this attitude that Hillary will win so people wont come out vote, we need to ensure that people come out and vote LOUD AND CLEAR and by a double digit margin (15 or greater) so to send a strong message that Mrs. Clinton should and shall continue to fight to get this nomination we have to ensure the Penns to do this.

  68. Ok guys, i can see whats going on in Oregon again and we must get this out

    http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/david_reinhard/index.ssf?/base/editorial/1208555706152970.xml&coll=7

    DEMOCRAT FOR A DAY

    he piece of paper sat on my desk, day after day. All I had to do was fill in the form from the Oregon Secretary of State’s Web site and send it to the Multnomah County Elections Office. Then I could vote in Oregon’s Democratic primary.

    The good: I took to heart the comments of readers who wrote in to say that messing around in the other party’s presidential primary — trying to hijack their nominating process — was unsporting. Democrats should have the chance to pick the candidate who best represents the Democratic Party’s values and principles and/or the best shot at defeating the Republican standard-bearer. It was morally and ethically questionable — actually, “reprehensible” was the word one reader used — to vote in the other party’s primary to pick the weaker candidate. It smacked of dirty tricks and insufficient seriousness about the office of the presidency. The longer I reflected on this, the more I thought my critics had a point.

    The bad: The longer I reflected on the Democratic race, the more it became clear that it’s not clear if Clinton or Obama would be the “weaker” candidate.

    I would be relevant. I would matter. I could make history with Hillary The good: I took to heart the comments of readers who wrote in to say that messing around in the other party’s presidential primary — trying to hijack their nominating process — was unsporting. Democrats should have the chance to pick the candidate who best represents the Democratic Party’s values and principles and/or the best shot at defeating the Republican standard-bearer. It was morally and ethically questionable — actually, “reprehensible” was the word one reader used — to vote in the other party’s primary to pick the weaker candidate. It smacked of dirty tricks and insufficient seriousness about the office of the presidency. The longer I reflected on this, the more I thought my critics had a point.

    The bad: The longer I reflected on the Democratic race, the more it became clear that it’s not clear if Clinton or Obama would be the “weaker” candidate. Clinton or vote for change Barack Obama can believe in. I would join the disenfranchised Oregon Republicans who were re-registering as “Democrats for a Day” to vote in the May 20 presidential primary.

    So we can probably guess why Oregon is tilting towards Obama, I guess he’s up to his old tricks and we need to get a grip on this fast.

  69. PA is a closed primary. Everyone who is going to vote, has already registered, so how can this be a benefit for Hillary? If the dems hate the Trib, maybe this will turn them away from her? Just asking.

  70. I think there is another reason why everyone wants BO over Hillary (in the democratic party)

    People like Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, Pelosi etc…they were NOBODIES during the Clinton administration because both the positive and positive affixated attention went to the Clinton family. No one gave a damn who Teddy Kenny-who? was or who horse-face Kerry married or whatnot. Ever since Bush, they’ve been able to regain somewhat of a national prominence and under a BO admin, they think they will be able to be prominent and push him around (though BO’s ego suggests otherwise).

    These are all the old croaks who are seing green because of their self-righteous selves being in the shadows most of the time. 😀

  71. I can’t even stand to look at Tim Russert! I made a mistake this morning a watched a little TV! That is something that I will not do again!

  72. Richard Mellon Scaife (of right wing conspiracy fame) endorsed Clinton in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. Scaife owns the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which threw its backing to Clinton today. It cites Clinton’s “political courage” in particular for sitting down with its editorial board.
    *****************************************************
    Isn’t PA a closed Primary so if you didn’t change your affliation to Dem you can’t vote?

    Maybe the paper is respectful of the values that Pennsylvanian shares and both sides values their endorsement.

  73. + I think a lot of Dems didn’t want to help Hillary and Bill pass Universal Healthcare because it would’ve ensured another Clinton in the whitehouse in the future. Universal healthcare wouuld’ve been HUGE like Social Security and Medicare and such. It would’ve kept a democrat in the white house for 20+ years at the very least.

  74. LostOne, seriously not me. The myspace FI, is someone out of Mustang. I’ve been to Mustang once to execute a will for a friend’s dying grandmother, and I don’t have a pin-up fetish, teenage nieces or a rat dog. The person you guys show is definitely not me. I’m from Norman. I’m still happily married and to one of your forum guys no less.

    Sorry. Just tired of you guys going after innocent people who disagree with your brand of politics.

    On a different note, going after posters here is a bit immature. Folks come here to vent and to socialize and share information. Sorta like what you guys do on your site. Had I not found out about it from hubby, none of us would prolly have ever known that you guys have been stalking us Make fun all you want, but when you call us hags, bitches, c words, etc. you are engaging in tactics that are as bad or worse than you accuse of of. BTW- call me a bitch all you want. I’m fine with it. That’s what earns me a living.

    I don’t expect you guys to stop, in fact, much of what you do at SA is pretty damn funny and creative (hence why I lurk), but don’t involve innocent people or bloggers in what we do. It’s abusive and juvenile.

    BTW- love the avatars. You guys come up up with some pretty damn good ones even the one’s like yours devoted to a little bit of self love.

  75. No, a number of Repubs reregistered Dem to vote in the primary. The endorsement doesn’t actually say anything that would turn off a Dem.

  76. wow a very powerful endorsement from Pittsburgh newspaper, I love it! It’s also a good criticsm of Obama and very clearly states what people needs to know.

  77. birdgal

    The main objective is to GOTV, PA has over 4 million registered Democrats and if we get a turnout of 2 million that will be huge. I do not think newspaper endorsements carry as much weight as they use to just as union endorsements no longer have the clout they use to have.
    Blame it on cable and the internet people today have minds of the own, unless of course they have drank the Obamanation Kool-aid.

  78. Oh get this for Trouble for Obama.

    Undecided superdelegates don’t feel bound by primaries

    ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5huRF3cWlHcz5si9CnwBUQ6S-Ff5QD905MHU80

    Many of the Democratic superdelegates who are still undecided say the most important factor in their decision is simple — they just want a winner in November.

    Problem is, after nearly four months of primaries and caucuses in 46 states, territories and the District of Columbia, they still aren’t sure who that is, don’t seem be in any hurry to make up their minds and aren’t interested in any artificial process that might force them to choose between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    AP reporters across the nation contacted the undecideds and asked them how they plan to choose. Of those, 117 agreed to discuss the decision-making process.

    _About a third said the most important factor will be the candidate who, they believe, has the best chance of beating Republican John McCain in the general election.

    _One in 10 said the biggest factor will be the candidate with the most pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses.

    _One in 10 said what matters most is who won their state or congressional district in the primary or caucus.

    Basically, the way i am interpreting this, that they will decide, they will not be forced and will choose the strongest candidate, there goes Obama’s argument.

  79. MJS Says:

    April 20th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
    + I think a lot of Dems didn’t want to help Hillary and Bill pass Universal Healthcare because it would’ve ensured another Clinton in the whitehouse in the future. Universal healthcare wouuld’ve been HUGE like Social Security and Medicare and such. It would’ve kept a democrat in the white house for 20+ years at the very least.

    Exacytly, MJS. The Dem Congresses refusal to even vote on it is why the lost Congress in ’94, though they will never admit it. Easier to blame Bill.

  80. here’s the groups that, if/when they come through for Hillary, should help her to win big:

    white women
    white men
    working-class voters
    voters making under $35,000 per year
    high-school educated voters
    Catholic voters
    democrats (those who self-identify)
    hispanics (there are some, but not a lot)
    more conservative democrats
    Older voters
    those who place emphasis on economy and healthcare
    Those who make up their minds at the last inute
    Those who have decided long before
    REpublican voters

  81. I’m in Oregon and just saw my first Obama commercial during Meet the Press. Going this morning to the new campaign office here in Medford, they are having a women for Hillary meeting there.

  82. mj, i think liberal-kooks like Kennedy and Kerry, etc suspected Hillary might make a run for the presidency even back then, and knew Universal Health Care would’ve sealed the deal if they let it pass.

  83. mjs: Right, and they did not want her to have anything that would help her. What a group of losers.

  84. exactly birdgal.

    universal healthcare would’ve done this:
    Gore from 2000-2008
    Hillary 2008-2016

    at the VERY least.

  85. MJS, that was not really why. They were just so used to their position they thought it would stay that way for ever, and they didn’t want to take orders from an outsider and his wife.

  86. Thing is, the Democrats never wanted Bill Clinton in the first place, its so obvious, it was not meant to be him in 92.

  87. MoonPluto,

    That’s an eye-opener, though they didn’t ask about popular vote overall.
    Assuming it’d be roughly the same in their minds as delegate totals, though likely to weigh a bit more as the SD’s know the delegate setup is screwed, with caucus votes counting 5 times as much as primary votes.

    Still, it looks like they basically want to go with their gut feel, with EASILY the biggest number saying it’s ‘Who can beat McCain?’, meaning the White House is coming into sharper focus.

    That’s a killer for BO. There was a lot of talk about ‘potential baggage’ and his ‘unknowns’ this morning…..

  88. If you all haven’t seen Lin Farley’s story on the Weather Underground, you can check it out at politwix.com.

    It is a very interesting perspective from someone who’s orbit intersected theirs during a very turbulent time.

  89. PA doesn’t look good. Its looking very close. Obama signs are everywhere, even in the Jewish neighborhood where I live. Someone said this over at Facebook…. in a town named Carnegie Mellon

  90. The amount of yard signs in an area doesn’t mean anything. I’m sure there are other parts of Pennsylvania that are blanketed with Hillary signs.

  91. Just: PA is a big state. One neighborhood does not reflect ALL of PA. It won’t be a blowout, but she should win. One town is one town only.

  92. Do not I repeat take anything Facebook says as Gospel, we all know Shitface is using that as brainwash tool for the kiddies.

  93. moononpluto, let’s not take it granted!

    Remember the media and DNC said Hillary has to come out with a LARGE margin win to be able to prove she’s still the candidate to consider! I know its unfair so we got to be sure that the Penns come out to vote big for Hillary! (15 or greater will be awesome).

  94. Undecided Superdelegates Say November Weighs Heaviest in Their Minds
    by Associated Press
    Sunday, April 20, 2008

    WASHINGTON — Many of the Democratic superdelegates who are still undecided say the most important factor in their decision is simple — they just want a winner in November.

    Problem is, after nearly four months of primaries and caucuses in 46 states, territories and the
    District of Columbia, they still aren’t sure who that is, don’t seem be in any hurry to make up their minds and aren’t interested in any artificial process that might force them to choose between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Most of the more than 100 undecided superdelegates who discussed their decision-making with The Associated Press in the past two weeks agreed that the primaries and caucuses do matter — whether it’s who has the most national delegates or the candidate who won their state or congressional district. But few said the primaries will be the biggest factor in their decision.

    “I think it’s really important that we keep our eye on the prize, and the prize is the win in November,” said Gail Rasmussen, an undecided superdelegate from Oregon.

    That’s good news for Clinton, who cannot catch Obama in delegates won in the few remaining primaries and caucuses.

    Obama has been arguing for months that the superdelegates would be overturning the will of the voters if they don’t nominate the candidate who has won the most pledged delegates. He has a 164-delegate lead in that category. Clinton, meanwhile, has argued that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment.

    Many of the undecided superdelegates say they don’t want to be perceived as elite insiders, cutting backroom deals to select a nominee. But that doesn’t mean they’re ready to forfeit their status.

    “The way the system is set up, the superdelegates are able to weigh in because we are the most experienced people in the party,” said Blake Johnson, an undecided superdelegate from Alaska. “We are the ones who have been part of the party the longest and keep it running on a day-to-day basis.”

    There will be nearly 800 superdelegates at the party’s national convention in Denver this summer. They are the party and elected officials who automatically attend the convention and are free to support whomever they choose. They are in high demand now that neither Clinton nor Obama can clinch the nomination without them.

    Clinton leads in superdelegate endorsements, 258-232, according to the latest tally by the AP. However, Obama has been eating away at her lead for much of the past two months, picking up 84 percent of the superdelegate endorsements since Super Tuesday.

    About 250 superdelegates have told the AP they are undecided or uncommitted. About 60 more will be selected at state party conventions and meetings this spring.

    AP reporters across the nation contacted the undecideds and asked them how they plan to choose. Of those, 117 agreed to discuss the decision-making process.

    –About a third said the most important factor will be the candidate who, they believe, has the best chance of beating Republican John McCain in the general election.

    –One in 10 said the biggest factor will be the candidate with the most pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses.

    –One in 10 said what matters most is who won their state or congressional district in the primary or caucus.

    –The rest cited multiple factors or parochial issues.

    Most undecided superdelegates surveyed said they hope the nomination is settled before the party’s convention. However, by more than a 2-to-1 margin, they said they oppose any formal mechanism, such as a separate primary or caucus, for the superdelegates to decide the nomination.

    “I think that is changing the rules in the middle of the process,” said Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma. “Obviously there are some problems with the process; there need to be some reforms made. Frankly, I would favor the people making the decision rather than insiders and party bosses.”

    Many undecided superdelegates refused to discuss their decision-making process, showing discomfort with the subject. Eighty-nine undecided superdelegates didn’t return repeated phone calls or e-mails in the past two weeks, and 42 refused to discuss their decision when they were contacted.

    “If I answer any of those (questions), people might be able to divine which way I am leaning,” said Wayne Kinney, an undecided superdelegate from Oregon.

    Even some experienced pols demurred.

    “I’m not saying anything,” said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, an Illinois superdelegate and a former aide to President Clinton. “There’s no value to it.”

    elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/20/undecided-superdelegates-say-november-weighs-heaviest-in-their-minds/

  95. Funny how that piece comes out today, I think its message to both campaigns, saying we are watching, nothing is set in stone.

  96. mj,

    You are right on with that. Bill Clinton did not owe them any favors when he became President and they were upset. I have come to the conclusion that quite a few of the Dems in the Congress like their power, but do not really eant a Dem. President.

    Look at all the trouble they gave to BC during his years in the WH. Maybe it is not wise to say so, but it was the Repugs who helped Clinton passed a lot of his initiatives.

    The Democratic Party is its own worst enemy. Or should I say the Big Wigs who run the Democratic Party. I get so upset sometimes I can hardly think.

    Just blowing off steam.

  97. Great news about the superdelegates. They should look at who is best able to win in November as the pledged delegate lead is just BS because of the undemocratic caucuses and no MI and FL. That’s why I’ve thought Hill needs a big win in PA, not just a win. The supers are watching and I don’t want there to be any doubt that she’s the best candidate to take on McCain.

  98. the supers are most likely looking at the fact that Obama is outspending her 5 to 1. Then they look at McCain and he looks more like Hillary .. steadfast, smart, experienced and a patriotic American.

    Bambi’s big bucks couldn’t take her out in Texas or Ohio .. a win will show the superdelegates that bambi has serious electability issues…all that dough and he still can’t close or knock her out.

  99. This makes more sense as to why they want Hillary out of the campaign because they know the SD’s are not being swayed by the pledged delegate totals being so close.

    They are worried with Bambi imploding that the SD’s are going to turn around and hand it to her and it seemingly looks like PA will be a major turning point.

  100. I think the SDs are also weighing on the fact that Obama continues not to want Michigan and Florida to be counted, he wants it his way 50/50 but that’s not how the people voted.

  101. Yup this little gem of SD news is not out today by chance, theres a big message being sent here.

  102. Right, and Hillary got a total of 4 superdelegates over the past few days and Obama only got 1 superdelegates and the rest were, ‘supporters.’

  103. the supers will be weighing these issues as well:

    Jeremiah Wright
    Hamas entertwined at Bambi’s church (the bulletin(
    His Non Record
    God Damn America
    Refusing to do a simple thing like wear a pin (this speaks more to me than anything .. and this will no doubt come up in a 527)
    Bitter America
    Unproud America per MO
    Rezco
    Ayers

    talk about baggage .. he has lots to be examined.

  104. I still want to know how Rezco was
    able to suddenly “get out of jail”

    Is Rezco still among the living?

  105. Is Rezco still among the living?

    Huh? Yes, he’s out on bail. Most non-violent offenders can get out of jail if there is not a great risk of flight.

  106. has any of you made calls?

    we have a lot of work ahead of us with Indiana and North Carolina!

    No doubt if Hillary wins Penn this will help with closing or overcoming the gaps in those two states

    Hillary needs to put up a money meter on her website! Obama will have a million dollars fundraising in 60 seconds campaign tomorrow so said this person on Fox

  107. Personally I think this article is a tert response to Dean from the SD’s to the tune of “back the hell off, we’ll decide this when we are ready”.

    People have not grasped the fact that if they wanted Obama to have this they would have taken HRC out by now but its not clear, because lets face it, the SD’s could have settled this a month ago by forcing her hand but i think the SD’s have rightly figured out that Obama has not been vetted nationally and they wanted to see whats lurking behind the rhetoric, thats only becoming clear now and i don’t think they like what they are seeing.

    They need an excuse to dump him and not be accused of being racist and Pennsylvania may just be that golden goose.

  108. ANY idiot who looks at the exit polls can see why Hillary would be best able to beat McCain than B.O.

    Hillary: women, whites, jewish, catholic, latino, asian, working-class, reagan dems, lower education, lower wage, older voters, economy-minded, + when B.O. is out of the picture, African Americans would surely turn to Hillary.

    B.O.: Upper class voters, men (the ones that are not Republican…which is not stastically many), college-educated, African Americans, college kids, radical left.

    + Hillary puts into play states like FLorida, Ohio, Pennsylvannia, Nevada, Arkansas, Tennessee, NEw Mexico, and Missouri.

    Barack would only put into play: um….idk…alaska? lol Hawaii..for sure 😀 lmao

  109. I agree moononpluto!

    I also think they see that the big-named endorsers did not make much of an impact (look at Kerry, Kennedy, McKassil (sp?) made no difference

  110. Hillary doesn’t need a blowout in PA, I’ve never bought that argument because it was floated by Obamanation.

    Hillary need to win the state of PA and she need to continue to win those states Democrats need in November to win the the White House.

    Obama has been focus on the Primary and not the G.E. this statergy will cost him the White House because he has promise the kitchen sink to everybody and their grandmother on TV and Radio. This lack of political judgement will come back and sink his campaign if he is the democratic nominee…but what is worst he will sink the whole party.

    Look at the demographics of Hillary’s coalition vs Obama’s, Hillary has the majority of the democratic swing voters who will cross party lines to vote for McCain. Obama will lose the southwest and southeast and now looks like the heartland. He will lose and take back gains Democrats have build up for decades.

    Because whne the Republicans 527s and base get through runing those Weathermen ads..vs 911 and Iraq solders being blown up by those IUDs…don’t say you weren’t warned. Oh I forgot about the lovely Rev. Wright ads running in Military towns or places like working class bars…G.D.America and how the Romans/Catholics lynched Jesus and other hate filled blasphemy sermons hit the airwaves.

    So if the SD don’t see the Clif ahead…so be it. Keep believing those “good ol boys” whispering in your ear to “Keep Hillary out of the White House”…but it’s alright for William “I wish we’d bombed more” Ayes and others to do their victory dance at the White House in Jan/09.

  111. I remember 1993 and i don’t think the country was ready for any ‘health care plan’ at all. I sure wasn’t. I think it took several years of HMOs and things getting worse before any UHC begins to look attractive to some of us.

  112. just me .. Hillary supporters have already set something up tomorrow to do that at 4:44 pm tomorrow. We will all be donating…I’m not sure if her website can handle it but we’ll try LOL

    The calls into PA are positive .. however, I think there is such thing as burnout by the voters .. this has been a 6 week campaign and I’ve seen it expressed by our own PA people that their head is ready to explode from receiving phone calls.

    Maybe best bet now it to leave people alone.

  113. Dem states Obama would lose:

    New Jersey (for frkkn sakes), Possibly New York (McCain does well with upstate voters) and at the same time, fail to win Penn, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, New Mexico, and Arkansas.

    That’s at least a 100 electoral deficit. How’s he going to make it up? Throw in 10 North dakotas? lmao

  114. What Hillary should do tomorrow and it would be a great idea is go on PA television, and say, I hear you loud and clear that you are sick of the phone calls, its stops from my campaign now to give you a days peace before the primary, i ask my opponent to do the same. It would bring her people in droves.

  115. mj I think it’ll backfire on Obama bec:

    robocalls are being negative
    obama attacks on Hillary goes negative the weekend before PA it contradicts his party of ‘hope’

  116. I’ve seen it expressed by our own PA people that their head is ready to explode from receiving phone calls.

    Hm. Maybe next state we should slack off on the phoning two or three weeks before the election, so that if Obama runs a lot of last minute ads we can start phoning again to counter them without overloading the voters.

  117. solidly Hillary’s column in GE: New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maine, Rhode Island, Pennsylvannia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Arkansas, Florida, California, Wash D.C., Missouri, Wisconsin, Vermont, Minnesota

    possibles: Tennesee, Nevada, New Mexico, Michigan

  118. That’s not how it works guys. Campaigns never stop calling in the days leading up to a primary. Tomorrow they will start GOTV calling.

  119. I think the biggest thing SD’s are looking at is that Obama has had 6 weeks of outspending Hillary by a 3 to 1 margin and still could not get that knockout punch. He didn’t do it in OH or TX and now has shown he is incapable of closing the deal in PA He has the flooded the Phila airwaves with nonstop commercials for the past 4 weeks and throw in that lying ad from SEUI running almost nonstop the past week, it looks pretty bad for Obama in a national campaign. If spending all that time and money in PA does not result in a win how can he justify saying he can win a national campaign? I see a lot of red on that map and if the SD’s don’t do the right thing, a lot of red faces in the DNC come November.

  120. I read right here at big pink .. somebody who lives in PA .. phones won’t be silent and tv and radio ads aren’t shutting up. I think I’d be ready for the campaigns to leave as well …6 weeks of spotlight is a long, long time. I don’t think any state has rec’d the attention of PA .. that is why bambi is freaking out … doesn’t seem he is able to close

  121. We can’t count our chickens before our eggs hatch. We still have to win. I find it so disheartening that Hill does not get more support in Philly. She has the best urban plan. As far as I know, she is the only candidate with an urban agenda. Don’t any of these city people vote on policy?

  122. Tennessee might go in Hillary camp .. she has a lot of support here. If bambi is the nominee .. it will stay McCain country. Hillary has a lot of silent support here, especially women.

  123. I think that if Hillary is the nominee .. you will see a lot of republican women come over. I’ve witnessed this first hand in my church.

  124. ok, so if even Bambi internals are showing 6-11% margin for Hillary, then i think the actual is much much higher. + factor in the Republicans who crossed over and that’s an extra 1-2% right there. 😀

    + I HIGHLY doubt they’d be going apeshit if it was just a 6-11% margin as that would mean they have a talking point. The real margin must be MUCH higher.

    anyways, keep working PA!

  125. also, wv went republast couple elections .. they will go with Hillary .. I don’t think Obama can carry WV in the fall.

  126. dot, the only forsure Bambi states come GE time will be:

    Illinois, Hawaii, Vermont, and Washington D.C.

    Every other state will be up for grabs for the repubs.

  127. mjs .. Major Garret said yesterday on Fox that Obama camps saw 6% and maybe even 11% by election day .. so they saw some where is trending freefall for him. That is why the negative ads this weekend and the “HOUSE” being thrown at Hillary.

    I think Pa knows the score by now.

    You know I’ve always heard the primary turned on the last few days .. however, I never personally was turned during the last few days.

  128. Carby

    you are so right..she just meeds to win Pa..i don’t care what the margin is…she has been out spent..a win is a win…and who the hell do these people think they are telling her to get out? eff them!!!
    Also, Jonnymac is not stupid..he may say he wants a respectful campaign but he has been waiting for this oppo too ong and he will not let go without a fight….notice on abc this am he said he thught bho was a patriot but he discussed the ayers thing..not sure what all he said but from talkleft indicates it will be in issue and the beat goes on…

  129. karl rove has all but admitted on Fox that with all the revelations recently on Obama that the repubs would be able to take him out easily with the Ayers, Wrigth, race baiting, America hating, bombers, terrorists…etc

  130. dot48, that’s why I think that bambi camp is lying. They wouldn’t be going crazy (as they are now) if Bam Bam wasn’t tanking even faster than that. I suspect that they have noticed a dropping and consistently dropping pattern with each day and want to stop it before Tuesday.

  131. MJS, they did this same thing in WI witht he health care/ NAFTA flyers. Don’t count your chickens, let’s wait and see.

  132. i think Hillary’s best bet right now should be to canvass (herself, bill,and chelsea, and Nutter) in African American neighborhoods in Philadelphia and in college heavy towns. U-know…knock on a few dorm doors and stuff 😀

  133. I think its smart that Gov Rendell is with Hillary for most if not all stops as he is a popular governor and this may help with Hillary to pull a larger then expected margin in Penn

  134. I think its smart that she’s doing these stops:

    04/20: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for Pennsylvania” Rally in Bethlehem!

    04/20: Join Hillary and Congressman John Murtha for a “Solutions for Pennsylvania” Rally in Johnstown!

    04/20: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for Pennsylvania” Rally in State College!

    04/21: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for Pennsylvania” Homecoming Rally in Scranton!

    04/21: Join Hillary and President Bill Clinton for a “Solutions for Pennsylvania” Rally in Pittsburgh!

    04/21: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for Pennsylvania” Rally in Harrisburg!

    04/21: Join Hillary, President Bill Clinton, and Chelsea for an Election Eve “Solutions for Pennsylvania” Rally in Philadelphia!

  135. A while back someone posted a video of a Florida representative pleading with the DNC, prior to their ruling, to not punish Floridians. Is there anyone her who knows where i can find a link to that video?

  136. I did a search, on cspan, still can’t find it. Oh Well, i wanted to post that as an answer to some obnoxious Obamabot who claimed the Democrats didn’t try at all to comply.

  137. dot / mjs – I worked on in the Cleveland office as an out of state volunteer – you may recall OH was predicted as a close race – about 3 – 4 days before the primary we saw a momentum change – from the canvassing to the phone calls we could tell the undecided voters were going more than 60% for HRC – while people say they get too many calls it is so very critical to know and connect with voters one-on-one – that their vote counts (I wish that were true for my vote in FL) – on a con-call with Murtha regarding GOTV

  138. I hope the voters of PA can see that Obama keeps companey with the likes of a Domestic Terrorist (William Aryers)
    That has got to make the Democratic Party nervous, knowing what Karl Rove will do this fall, look what he did to Kerry, he was a war hero (some what) and Rove turned him into a Benidict Arnold.

  139. oops admin – my bad – 25 hours of driving – 10 point Murtha comment is a misquote – it did not come from him – please remove if you can – don’t want to start any rumors

  140. I think it’ll be greater then 10 percent 😉 Want to bet CNN will wait about four hours or five to make a projection, 😉

  141. I’ve just got through looking at Hillary live feed on CNN and I must give this compliment to Howard Dean.

    Thank you for this 50 state primary, because you’ve really HELPED Hillary become a better Leader, energized her base and revealed all the backstabber, snakes and weak liars running our party. I know you didn’t do it for her benefit but for the radical left progressives and opportunists do nothings that because of their longevity are wasting space…it so very clear WHY WE LOSE to the REPUGS time and time again because if I can figure out Obama will SINK the party how come our so called democratic party professionals couldn’t.

    Is it because they are elitists and privately disdained the people they’re suppose to represent and fight for?

    John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson and other speak loudly about their Patriotism after the William “I wish we bombed more” Ayes of the Weathermen.

  142. mjs – if the internals of the campaign are showing a good margin, then, that’s fine. why should that line be removed?

  143. Ininla, they are counting on every vote, they are publically lowering expectations. They need every voter possible to show up.

  144. found this on TM – and will post this for posterity. Whatever the source, and I hope to find it, it is spot on about the abuses by Obama followers at the caucuses (TM folks are talking about the Huffpost Clinton “hitpiece” where Clinton talks about moveon and the problems with the caucuses). Though Huffpost writer/editors point to the timing of her remarks as earlier than when Wolfson notes when caucus abuses were tracked as some sort of ‘discrepancy in truth’ – I would imagine the truth really is, it took the Clinton campaign some processing time to realize what Obama did to game the Iowa caucuses and to build the necessary infrastructure – caucus observers, legal team, etc – to deal with it:

    How to Game the Democratic Caucus System:

    1. Round up as many supporters as possible; it doesn’t matter how old they are (15, 16, 17, it’s all good); it doesn’t matter whether they live in the State or a particular district, or whether they are registered Democrats, Republicans, or unregistered voters (in most cases same day registration and re-registration is permitted, and there will be no way to verify eligibility until it’s too late).
    2. Bus those supporters to the caucus minutes before the sign in period ends. The crowd will overwhelm the workers so most of your supporters won’t have to sign in at all. Confusion is your friend. For those supporters who do sign in, there is usually no ID requirement. New and re-registrants can scribble their names and addresses if anonymity is preferred.
    3. The “crush” will serve the dual purpose of creating confusion and extending the length of the caucus. The longer the caucus, the greater the odds that your Opponent’s supporters will leave due to familial or employment obligations, or medical needs. The elderly are particularly prone to leave early, especially if there is no seating available and they have to stand in line for hours, which is usually the case.
    4. In this same vein, extend the speech making portion of the caucus as long as possible.
    5. Employ peer pressure. Remember, the elderly are especially good targets.
    6. Make sure to tell your supporters to “caucus” near the door, that way any late comers can join in when no one is looking.
    7. Be creative with your hand count; since it’s an on-your-honor system, it doesn’t matter if you pad your numbers because no one will know.
    8. If you are in a State where the vote is taken by sign in sheets (like Texas), download the forms from the State Democratic Party website early and have supporters who can’t attend the caucuses “sign in”. Then slip the sign in sheets into the pile when they are collected at the caucus – there will be confusion so no one will know. Also, tell your supporters to “sign in” on multiple sheets, that way they can “vote” more than once.
    9. If the caucuses follow primary voting, get supporters to serve as election judges or poll watchers, or otherwise stand outside the polling doors and tell your Opponent’s supporters that there isn’t going to be a caucus tonight.
    10. Once the caucus begins, get a supporter elected Caucus Chair, if possible, and close delegate nominations before your Opponent’s supporters can agree on delegates to nominate.
    11. If the precinct heavily favors your Opponent, have a supporter pose as a supporter of your Opponent and run for Chair/Secretary. Also have them run for delegate – they can change their presidential preference later. If your supporter is elected Chair/Secretary, have him/her hold off sending the results to the County Chair as long as possible – and if your Opponent’s delegate lists get “lost” all the better.
    12. Following the caucuses, have your supporters call your Opponent’s delegates (they can get the lists from the county chairs), and tell them they have been replaced by another delegate and don’t need to come. Have them call your Opponent’s alternates and tell them the delegate slots have been filled and there won’t be room for alternates to attend. A follow up call telling them that the Convention has been cancelled or rescheduled wouldn’t hurt either.
    13. Tell your supporters to go to the county convention “in mass” even if they’re not delegates or alternates. The more people, the longer the lines, and the greater the confusion.
    14. If your Opponent’s delegates and alternates don’t show, your alternates will be able to step into the open delegate slots. If you don’t have any available alternates, anyone will do (in most cases no one will know).
    15. If there is sufficient confusion, your supporters may also be able to pose as delegates in precincts where your candidate didn’t win delegates. Or, they may be able to pose as supporters of and be elected delegates for your Opponent – they can change their preference later.
    16. Where state delegates are apportioned by caucus votes, your supporters can out smart your Opponent’s supporters even when they are out numbered. Train your supporters to get your Opponent’s delegates to vote first. If they split their votes among multiple nominees, your supporters can “team vote” in one of their delegates. If your opponent’s delegates cast all their votes for one nominee, your delegates can pick up alternate slots with as little as one vote.
    17. Getting control of the county convention is key. Your supporters should get themselves appointed to the credentials committee, rules committee, or better yet, chair, etc. Have them hide their presidential preference or pose as your Opponent’s supporters so they can maximize coverage. Control of the convention will permit creative application of the rules to maximize delegate counts.
    18. The longer the convention, the more open delegate seats you will be able to pick up if your Opponent’s delegates leave. It is particularly effective if the convention runs past midnight, especially if sign in commences at 10am. Plan to have a second shift of supporters come who can take delegates’ seats if they have to leave. In many cases, delegates will have tags they can easily remove and give to replacements so no one will know.
    19. The same strategies apply to the state level conventions, remember, confusion will be your friend.
    20. Don’t be concerned with after-the-fact verification of voter/delegate eligibility. In most cases the results will stand even if a voter/delegate is disqualified since the vote counts are more often than not by hand, and thus, it will be impossible to determine how any one voter/delegate voted. Further, as a practical matter, it’s not likely that voter eligibility verification will ever be conducted. The Democratic Party does not want the public to know how vulnerable and corrupt the caucuses are. The Party believes that caucuses are party builders. If word were to get out that the caucuses are corrupt, it might undermine that goal, not to mention the integrity of the entire Democratic Nomination process. So, mums the word.

    suskin | 04.19.2008 – 11:37 pm | #

  145. mj

    several, several, HRC surrogates and staff, plus MSM pundits have been out since yesterday am touting 9-10 pt leads in the polls and BO internals for HRC.

    Please respect others’ notations as much as you want others to respect your hand-wringing and “tigers and lions and bears, oh my” reactions to news, press releases and opinions. That historical and on-going respect is what has, in part, fueled the popularity and stability of this board.

    Thank you for adhering to a that principle in future.

    Now if you have inside information and orders, state them as such. Otherwise, I=you=Admin=HillBilly=Hawk=Dot=Divabunny=terrondt=skmf12=…you get my drift?

  146. posted at another forum I frequent .. regarding PA:

    “Here in Pennsylvania, I’m being completely overwhelmed by aggressive, hyperactive Obama supporters…door-to-door people (that’s plural) every evening, multiple phone calls all day long from kids who sound like they’re 16 years old (“I used to support Hillary Clinton, but now…. ), even hand written post cards arriving in the mail every day. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this kind of thing before.

    ——–

  147. Emjay,

    Where did you hear about the internals? I know Dot said Major Garrett on Fox yesterday reported BO’s internals weren’t good, hence the negative ads. But there have been others?

  148. I’d love to hear a recording of bambi’s call transcript ..

    the, “I used to support Hillary Clinton, but now …..

    wonder just what all they are trying to stiff arm PA into believing…

  149. yeah, sounds like the ObamaCult(tm) are off the cliff!

    I know how I’d feel if I were to get a call from a teenager trying to prompt me to vote .. saying, I used to support Hillary Clinton!! … I’d think to myself “have you quit shittin yellow yet kid” ..

    The handwritten cards .. I bet they are sending these to the sd’s too. Oh … my …. god.
    s

  150. Ininla !

    Bless your pea-pickin’………!

    Been looking for that all night since talking to FDR…I have frwd to his email.

    You are fantastic in so many arenas.

  151. The only explanation is that Bambi is trying to minimise the damage in PA, he knows its going to be bad or he would not be wasting his time there if it was even close.

  152. Here is a posting from another board:

    Spent Saturday in Philadelphia. Took 4 hours to get there thanks to the friggin’ pope and friggin’ Obama (my two favorite people — not!). Based on the % of Hillary signs I saw in my yuppie, limousine liberal former neighborhood, my nonscientific prediction is that Hillary will win the state by 6-9%. Obama’s margins are not going to be high enough in the white sections of Philadelphia.

    I witnessed some terrible campaign tactics from Obama supporters (destroying or defacing Hillary posters) as well as obnoxious ones — people driving through neighborhoods with stereos blaring vote for Obama messages. Here’s hoping these people are found, fined, and/or arrested.

  153. carbynew,
    That’s one of the great things about this protracted primary battle- other states besides Iowa & New Hamphshire will influence the outcome. I have nothing against IA and NH, but I do want other democrats to have a say in who our nominee is too.

  154. Hey everyone, we did a visual, standing on corners holding signs. Support has been great here in Erie.
    People were laying on their horns for Hillary. We had a few hollered O. I also went door to door canvasing response great. We are staying in a cottage on the beach. Great Place

  155. the tactics of the ObamaCult(tm) seem to be out of control and you know what … he will be the one who pays. How easier to say F off to these tactics than voting him “outta town”

  156. judging by what i am hearing and seeing and whats coming from the Obama camp the Pa margin could be around 20% maybe more, this is really looking like a blowout, i really do think so.

    We’ll know the minute the polls close, if CNN has to call an immediate projection, then you’ll know its a blowout of epic proportions.

  157. neeta .. thanks for the update and your hard work. Cottage on the beach .. hope you can get an extra day in to just relax

  158. This is just for laughs, but the day before the Ohio and Texas primary I was sitting at a subway restaurant and they had CNN playing. While I was eating they were talking about Tony Rezko and the Canada bit, I gave my husband a high five and I looked behind me and a table of college guys almost ALL shook their heads at me and looked like they wanted to kill us! The whole time they just sat there looking at the tv and we just laughed, that was a great moment with me and cnn!

  159. omg .. I’m getting that feeling too moon. But we must still gotv…can’t get complacent. I think the tide is turned and America wants Hillary and they want to send a message via PA to the superdelegates and to the party.

  160. The goon squad i presume, remember guys, Germany had the same in the brownshirts and hitler youth.

  161. We relax after the office close on the beach. They burn logs. Can you believe we were put there by the campaign free. nICE COTTAGE.

  162. It does but these obama “workers” “supporters” a lot of them remind me of those guys that work for mobsters that when you don’t pay the protection money or disrespect them, they come round wreck the business and beat you up.

    Obama has an army of doting goons who will do things for him, its frightening but Obama has taken it too far and these people are willing to do damage, they are dangerous, he has cultivated every bad element and used it against us.

  163. mj Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm,

    mj, wasn’t the ABC debate in Philadelphia? Hillary had a great crowd supporting her out in the street — hardly any Obama people.

  164. I have a question: How can BO even get a security clearance with such associations as Wright, Ayers, and Rezko? Plus, is he also a citizen of Kenya?

  165. I will tend to believe this little tidbit I heard the other day from an ObamaCult member who had been canvassing

    “The Pennsylvania residents are resistant to change” …

    They still don’t get it. The only change he is proposing is a change in person at the desk. He tells people we can inspire to change the country … well, just exactly what does that mean? I think this is where the message is lost. He isn’t proposing any ideas .. just hope for change, change to hope, bullshit.

    Pa like regular Americans who work and hunt and go to church .. not the elite, rich .. well, they ain’t buying it cause they’ve had to work in this world to get where they are.

  166. MJ, yes i heard that, Obama is going to win PA big, i almost cried with laughter. Now if they somehow switch PA to a caucus by Tuesday, I’d agree with them.

  167. oh sht-bambi just had a major gaffe today. big one-sys mccain would be better than bush!
    Obama says McCain would be better than Bush By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
    11 minutes ago

    READING, Pa. – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Sunday that Republican rival John McCain would be better for the country than President Bush has been over the past eight years.

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    “You have a real choice in this election. Either Democrat would be better than John McCain,” Obama said to cheers from a rowdy crowd in central Pennsylvania. Then he said: “And all three of us would be better than George Bush.”

    “But what you have to ask yourself is who has the chance to actually really change things in a fundamental way so that 10 years from now or 20 years from now you can look back and you can say boy we really moved in a new direction and we put the country on a better path,” Obama added as he wrapped up an event at Reading High School.

    Obama was trying to argue that he is the better choice over Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton in Tuesday’s primary in Pennsylvania. But the Illinois senator ended up mixing in praise for McCain at the same time.

    The comment threatened to undercut Obama’s efforts — and those of the entire Democratic Party — to portray the GOP presidential nominee-in-waiting as nothing more than an extension of Bush’s unpopular tenure. At the very least, it provides fodder Republicans can use to prop up McCain.

    Earlier, Obama renewed his criticism that McCain offers the same “failed” policies of the Bush administration on everything from Iraq to the economy.

    “We cannot afford a third George Bush term and that’s what John McCain is offering — a third Bush term,” Obama said, repeating a line he’s said at virtually every campaign stop since McCain wrapped up the GOP nomination last month.

    Democrats are trying to make the general election a referendum on Bush, whose job approval ratings have been dragged down by the Iraq war and a troubled economy.

    McCain, for his part, has tried to distance himself from Bush. The four-term Arizona senator is casting himself as an independent thinker with his own vision for the country and a record of fighting the status quo in nearly three decades in Washington.

    Obama spokesman Bill Burton said: “It’s hard to imagine a president doing a worse job than President Bush but one thing is clear, John McCain wants to do his best to emulate Bush’s failed economic and foreign policies and even his divisive political tactics.”

  168. At this point, I do not think poll numbers mean anything. What matters is Tuesday night and the results. 🙂

  169. dot48 Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
    the tactics of the ObamaCult(tm) seem to be out of control and you know what … he will be the one who pays.

    Yep. ANohter reason Obama should graciously bow out after he loses PA.

    I expect some of his ‘supporters’ are really just looking for an excuse to ‘march’ on Denver, or on the Creden. Committee, or whatever. If they do, then Obama’s future career is dead. So he’d better get out now, so he won’t be their excuse.

  170. Forgot to tell you while we were standing on the corner a guy pulled up and said Bosnia. I asked him is that all he had. I then told him O had Ayers, Rezko etc. He had to smile after that as if to say you got me.

  171. are these enw ads runnign on tv? ny times says the alp 527 plans to ramp up money to target indiana.

  172. haha .. Bambi just can’t shut up. He sounds more like George Bush everyday.

    Seems that if he goes “off script” he doesn’t have an original thought. Sound familiar?

  173. I’m telling you now, that if a massive protest of Obama thugs and idiots descend and cause violence at the convention, Obama can kiss his career goodbye because voters will not stand for it.

  174. Obama endorses Clinton and McCain .. he just gave everyone the okay to vote for Hillary as well.

    Oh gosh, you know that little gem will come back to haunt him.

  175. neetabug, you should have asked him if he actually knew where Bosnia was, i bet he wouldnt have a clue. Even better just ask him to spell it.

  176. ‘Everyone is saying’ their speculations. The big turn-out of HIllary voters outside the debate is a fact.

    Of course there are other factors involved, but this turnout is one (however small) piece of solid evidence for optomism. Isn’t INdependence Hall a location where you’d expect a lot of Obama’s teenyboppers to show up? Accessible by skateboard, lots of bright lights. And wouldn’t we usually expect more Obamaboppers in a street demonstration than HIllary people who have homes and responsibilities?

  177. T4H

    WOWZA!!!… he said that! “EVEN MC CAIN IS BETTER THAN BUSH”…….

    I hope those SD are smart enough to jump ship as fast as they can now!! 😀

    and to dean, pelosi,reid et all….you’re all a bunch of low life dumb asses if you continue backing your “rock star”

  178. What other politician would still be standing though? The superdelegates have to be looking at that.

    The fact that Hillary has pulled ahead in the Gallup and is going to win yet another BIG, NECESSARY state in the electoral vote and in the GE .. all while being outspent 5 to 1 and up against the biggest nonstop Hillary bashing media.

    This should seal the fate for the undecideds…Hillary is showing the strength to win the GE .. to bring in the necessary coalition to win the white house.

  179. Remember when Obama was paying 12.00 an hour for people to show up at the big rallyes .. this is what went on with the 35,000. Betcha dollars to donuts.

  180. # dot48 Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    BO = Titanic with Hillary rearranging the deck chairs.

    and Obama tied to the Captains Wheel unable to get off while HRC jumps in a lifeboat.

  181. Just dropped by to say:
    Happy Birthday to the Big Pink Oasis! And Congrats and Kudos to you admin for your perseverance! The ultimate reward will come on January 20 2009 when Hillary is sworn in.
    🙂

  182. but then again look at that 35,000 person rally like this. Obama keeps getting this huge crowd of people but he doesn’t seem to be able to close the deal in the big states. Yes, he has won the strong arm, beat your ass caucus but otherwise the only thing major he has won is his home state. The sd’s are sending a message right now that they are looking to the GE .. and he doesn’t seem to be able to pull the crowd who turns up to these events into the polls.

  183. # dot48 Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    BO = Titanic with Hillary rearranging the deck chairs.

    she’s too smart to have even gotten on that sinking ship 😀

  184. dot48 Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    but then again look at that 35,000 person rally like this.

    I wonder if alot of that crowd wasn’t brought in to make it appear like no damage was done to him, the fabricate his numbers and all that……it wouldn’t surprise me to learn he faked that rally of support……..calling all my soldiers ..front and center!!!

  185. We intended to write a bit today about North Carolina (and include a bonus picture of Divabunny and Diva-hubby).

    But we decided to address Obama’s weekend orgy of smears instead.

    The article on North Carolina will wait until after Tuesday. (We have not forgotten Michigan and Florida either).

    New article is up.

  186. I know none of us like him, but whenever Zogby has anything good to say about Hillary it is nice to hear.

    Pollster John Zogby: “A big one-day of polling for Clinton. If a 10-point victory is the
    pundit-driven threshold she needs on Tuesday, it looks like she can do it. This does not look like a
    one-day anomaly – undecideds dropped to only 5% in this latest single day of polling, and they are
    breaking Clinton’s way. As I suggested yesterday, if white and Catholic voters, who still are the
    biggest portion of undecideds, actually vote, Clinton will have her double-digit victory. Just today
    alone, she polled 53% to Obama’s 38%.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/NewsmaxPADay5NR%204_21_2008.pdf

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