Three Torpedoes Headed Towards S.S. Obama

Tomorrow night, there will be a debate with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on ABC.

Next week Pennsylvania votes. Obama and his thug campaign tried to force Hillary out of the race. Obama and his thug campaign did not want Pennsylvania nor the next scheduled primaries to take place. Now we know why.

Rezko, Wright, Bitterness – Three torpedoes headed towards the S.S. Obama.

The debate over Michigan and Florida is heating up too as more and more Americans are demanding Florida and Michigan voters have their votes counted and respected.

Right now the Hillary campaign must stay focused on Obama, the bitter snob. This is no time to let up on this revealing moment. Obama and his thug campaign will try to shift the debate to race. The Hillary Campaign must not allow this diversion/distraction orchestrated by Obama’s Big Media masters to take place. The Hillary Campaign must press the issue again and again. The Hillary Campaign must issue the same standing order every morning as U.S. Grant did: Advance!

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While the immediate issue in Pennsylvania is Obama’s condescension towards white working class voters who will not vote for him, yesterday, at the slumlord Rezko trial, the “Obama Bomb Dropped“.

When Tony Rezko held a reception at his home for Iraqi-born billionaire Nadhmi Auchi on April 3, 2004, White House hopeful Barack Obama and his wife were also there, Stuart Levine testified just now at Rezko’s trial.

Auchi is the man who provided Rezko a $3.5 million loan that Rezko did not disclose to the court — resulting in his January arrest.

Mr. and Mrs. Obama were there, were they not?” Rezko lawyer Joseph Duffy asked.

“Yes, sir,” Levine said.

Obama and his aides have said Obama has no recollection of ever meeting Auchi.

Rezko’s lawyer was the one who bought up Obama’s name. And Michelle’s name too.

At the time of the reception for Auchi, Rezko paraded Obama as a soon to be U.S. Senator (Obama had just won the Democratic primary on March 16, 2004) in the same way Rezko would parade Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich.

Obama, in a South Carolina debate, implied he barely knew Rezko. Obama, until recently, was befuddled as to how Rezko knew about the house Obama was about to buy – until Obama recalled that indeed Rezko and Obama had strolled through the house together.

The Chicago Tribune has followup from their interview last month with Obama regarding Rezko:

Otherwise, Obama said he and Rezko met for breakfast or lunch infrequently, dined once in Chicago with their spouses, and got together another time with their wives in Lake Geneva, Wis., where Rezko owned a home. Aside from the fundraiser, no mention was made of any other get-together at Rezko’s home.

Levine testified that he was at the Auchi party and saw the Obamas there as well as other political luminaries, including Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn and various cabinet officials in the Blagojevich administration. The governor was not in attendance, Levine said.

Monday’s testimony from Levine was not the first time it has been suggested that Rezko may have tried to capitalize on Obama’s growing celebrity in 2004 to impress potential investors in the Roosevelt Road project.

A published report last year highlighted a small private dinner Rezko hosted in February of that year at Chicago’s Four Seasons Hotel for two bankers from Qatar. Obama, then in the thick of his Democratic primary race for the Senate, took a brief detour from the campaign to pop in on the event. [snip]

But if Levine’s contention is correct, Obama was back at another Rezko event tied to the Roosevelt Road investment a few weeks later, this time as the freshly minted Democratic Senate nominee riding a crest of national publicity.

Auchi came to the rescue as Rezko’s business ventures began to crumble and his legal troubles mounted in recent years. Auchi, who heads General Mediterranean Holding SA, bought about 15 Wisconsin pizzerias from Rezko, court records show. He also took a stake in Rezko’s South Loop development at Roosevelt Road and Clark Street.

Rezko’s lawyer bringing up Obama’s name at the trial even raised the eyelids of the New York Times:

A government witness testified on Monday at the trial of the Chicago businessman Antoin Rezko that Senator Barack Obama attended a party in 2004 that Mr. Rezko held to court a controversial Iraqi-born investor for a large real estate project.

Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign has long said that the senator does not recall meeting the investor, Nadhmi Auchi, a billionaire who has been convicted on fraud charges in Europe. Mr. Obama’s spokesman, Bill Burton, said again Monday that the senator had no recollection of attending any such event.

Questions about the senator’s ties to Mr. Rezko, a former political fund-raiser who is on trial on corruption charges, have dogged his campaign. Mr. Obama has repeatedly said he never did anything to help Mr. Rezko.

The witness, Stuart Levine, who once served on state boards, said Monday that Mr. Rezko held the party at his Mediterranean-style home in a Chicago suburb. News reports from the courtroom said Mr. Rezko wanted to impress Mr. Auchi, who ultimately poured nearly $170 million into the real estate venture.

Several former Rezko associates have said that Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois attended a similar dinner that Mr. Rezko hosted for Mr. Auchi at the Four Seasons Hotel in Chicago. And while Mr. Obama was not at that dinner, he recently acknowledged that he had stopped by the hotel at another time when Mr. Rezko was entertaining business associates.

Mr. Obama, an Illinois Democrat, has said that Mr. Rezko raised at least $250,000 for his earlier political campaigns. Mr. Rezko also bought a lot next to the Obamas’ house and later sold them a 10-foot-wide strip to expand their yard in a set of transactions that Mr. Obama has since described as “boneheaded” on his part.

Obama, the bitter bonehead, stuck by slumlord Rezko even as the Chicago machine ran from Rezko.

Former business associates of Mr. Rezko say Illinois newspapers had raised enough questions about Mr. Rezko’s influence in state government by 2005 that Mayor Richard M. Daley of Chicago told them he would not approve city-related financing for part of the real estate project if Mr. Rezko was involved. They said that decision came a month or two before the Obamas closed on their house and Mr. Rezko bought the adjacent lot.

Prosecutors in Mr. Rezko’s case have said that Mr. Rezko asked Illinois officials to help obtain a visa for Mr. Auchi’s visit to Chicago. The officials have not been identified, and Mr. Obama’s campaign has said he was not involved in that effort.

Citizens who require help with passports or visas usually turn to elected officials for assistance. They do not call the Mayor. They do not call their city or town councils. They do not call the Governor. They do not call the dog catcher. They call federal office holders (or soon to be federal office holders).

The visa Auchi required in 2005 to enter the country required the federal government to issue it. Obama has merely denied having a recollection of personally helping Auchi but typically expresses legalistic befuddlement as to whether the staff that worked for him assisted with the Auchi visa.

The London Times recently discussed the “Obama Bagman” a.k.a. slumlord Antoin “Tony” Rezko as well as Nahmed Auchi.

We too previously discussed an earlier London Times article which discussed many of the Iraq/Auchi/Rezko/Hussein/Obama entanglements.

We wrote: The London Times strongly implied recently that it is a “British-Iraqi billionaire” by the name of Nadmi Auchi who provided the money which paid for the Obama house to “bagman” Rezko and Mrs. Rita Rezko. Mr. Auchi of course has been convicted of corruption in France and has ties to such lovely figures as former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

Why did Rezko’s lawyer mention Obama at the trial? It could be one final lurid attempt by Rezko to use Obama’s celebrity to try to convince the jury that he, Rezko, is not a corrupt crook.

Or, it could be a signal to Superdelegates Prosecutors that Rezko, were he ever to flip, has a great deal of knowledge about Obama.

It appears from earlier trial testimony that if the Prosecutors decide to target a certain Governor, they already have sufficient evidence and witnesses to gain a conviction. Therefore Rezko does not have many bargaining chips to avoid a very long (equivalent to a life sentence at Rezko’s age) prison sentence if he is convicted, by merely offering up a certain Governor.

Likely, it was Rezko that provided the Obama campaign with a photograph of Rezko at a robo-photo session with Bill and Hillary Clinton at a fundraiser for an Illinois campaign. So Rezko and Obama are still friends. Rezko, were he ever to flip, could possibly point to houses as gifts, government money funneled to scam operations, favors exchanged, all as overt acts.

Rezko’s lawyers could be paving the way for Obama as a Rezko character witness (which would force the prosecution to raise questions about the Rezko and Obama business relationship).

Or Rezko, via his lawyers, might be signaling to prosecutors, that were he ever to flip he has a very tasty senatorial dish to offer prosecutors in exchange for a reduced sentence.

Time will tell. Which is why Obama wants Hillary out now. Time is not on Obama’s side. Obama knows there is a torpedo headed his way by the name of Rezko and when he blows up he does not want Hillary still there as an alternative for Superdelegates.

There are two more torpedoes headed Obama’s way.

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567 thoughts on “Three Torpedoes Headed Towards S.S. Obama

  1. Can you imagine if Hill’s name was brought up in a federal prosecution with a political fixer? It would be all over the MSM.

  2. dot, I think it was, but they still need money. BO will out spend Hill 5 to 1 on cable ad buys this week in PA.

  3. mj, I heard that Hillary doesn’t have the $ to fund the ward leaders in PA for gotv. This is crucial too.

  4. It’s official. McCain will use the “bitterness” stuff and other elitist remarks to hammer 👿 .

    Top aide Steve Schmidt calls the Democrat’s remarks about small-town Americans “condescending and elitist,” says the campaign will continue criticism “for the duration of Sen. Obama’s candidacy.”

  5. In Kentucky, Clinton 36 Lengths In Front of Sputtering Obama: In a Democratic Primary in Kentucky today, 04/15/08, five weeks to the vote, Hillary Clinton defeats Barack Obama 62% to 26%, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for WHAS-TV Louisville and WCPO-TV Cincinnati. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA tracking poll released two weeks ago, Obama has lost ground among men and women, young and old, conservatives and moderates. In Western KY, Clinton had led by 30, now leads by 43. In Eastern KY, Clinton had led by 52, now leads by 63. in North Central KY, Clinton had led by 30, now leads by 39. In greater Louisville, Clinton had led by 12, now leads by 16.

  6. Kentucky looks like a total blowout for Clinton. If she wins PA and Indiana, Kentucky may top over the 70% mark.

  7. I don’t know what to make of the Rezko trial, or which way it might go.

    Patrick Fitzgerald is the prosecutor is I’m not mistaken, and he sure didn’t get enough done in the Scooty Libby trial.
    He also gave an almost incomprehensible press conference along the way that did little to instill confidence. And I remember the major buildup of him before it, how he was such a straight shooter, blah, blah.
    It never sat right with me for some reason but didn’t have a chance to get into it too much.

  8. It really doesn’t matter. The fact that BO is now named by the star witness as being at the Auchi event would have killed Hill.

  9. Everything is not right in Obamaland, the poor guy cant get a break.

    Thats ok in my books, stick it to him.

  10. from Hillary blog

    I was watching a video of Obama trying to explain his remarks about small town people on Real Clear Politics site and to be honest I found his remarks there insulting as well.In the video he talks about men in a small town here in llinois losing their jobs and the best that they can look forward to is retraining to become a CNA ( nursing assistant).I found this offensive since I live in Illinois am from a small town and was a CNA for years.Being a nursing assistant is something I have always been proud of.I was helping others and the way he made it sound it was if it is less meaningful if a man had to do it.I’m sorry for ranting about this here but this is the only forum that will allow me to vent my feelings about how wrong it is to belittle anyone who does an honest days work no matter what that work may be.Maybe some of you here could watch this video and tell me if I am overreacting. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/04… It just seems to me that he has no idea how the people who are CNA might feel about his remark. Once again I am sorry for venting here but things like this make me want to see Hillary become the next president even more.

  11. Doesn’t this seem weird to anyone else?

    “Of note: Obama has gained ground among Democrats who attend religious services regularly. He had trailed Clinton by as many as 19 points among regular church goers, but today closes to within 7. “

  12. The polls are FOS! 👿

    I stand by my prediction that PA will go to HRC by double digits or very close.
    PA is like upstate NY. It borders NY. HRC is a popular senator in NYS. The PA demographics are very much like those of NYS (aside from NYC and L.I.)
    She’s gonna win big in PA. I don’t care what Ozomba’s media whores say.

    My intuition is very strong about this.
    forfull

  13. I know, basil. But I am trying very hard to understand religious voters who are not bothered by BO’s pastor.

  14. or basil9 – I keep hearing this motto: Pennsylvania is more Ohio than Ohio.

    …and we all know how Hillary did in Ohio.

  15. mj,

    Don’t READ those FRIGGIN’ Polls!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Of ALL people WE know they’re FOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Of course I speak as a reformed hand-wringer. 😀

    She’s gonna WIN!

  16. mj,
    I don’t believe that, either. What poll? Who are the people who conduct these polls? Polls are a snapshot in time. It’s like my health issues. On one day my red blood count might be normal. the next day it could be below normal. The following day it could be above normal. My medical treatment depends on the overall trends, not daily fluctuations, unless, of course, levels reach emergency status.
    And HRC is NOT gonna TANK again like after TT. Maggie’s not gonna let that happen. Neither is this guy Gavin. What matters is the overall trend and hers is UP! Besides, these polls are just trying to spin some good news Ozomba’s way. The regular voter doesn’t give a d@mn about these polls. (IMHO)

  17. Basil, the PA SUSA. I am really just curious. I was wondering if anyone here might undestand it. That’s all.

  18. I read a post on a board a month ago about religious voters in PA. Basically some of these religious voters don’t follow news and they vote whoever their church tells them to. Apparently I don’t know why some churches in PA ask their people to vote for BHO. I don’t understand this.

  19. That Obama attack ad is going to cause him a lot of trouble, its crass and frankly quite disturbing, i bet it will have the opposite effect to what they think, do they think thats a good way to get votes.

  20. Polls are all over the place because they use such a small sampling of the electorate. In a state like PA for instance with 8 million registered voters they can ask 1000 people a question one day and get a totally different result a few days later from a different group of 1000. Maybe they should use Neilsen to do the polls and ask the same group the same question every week to measure the trends.

  21. Ininnla,
    I haven’t been to Ohio but it sounds right! 😀
    MJ, Sorry.
    Could you post link to the SUSA religion poll you cited? I’d like to take a look at it.
    Again, speaking as someone who lives in PA in the Catskills, and seeing the sheer number of churches here and knowing the locals are strong church going folk and having spoken to them and gotten a feel for the local traditions I’m sure the Wright hate-speech has damaged Ozomba big time. OF course I’m speaking from my gut, here. (which, I have to admit, is seldom wrong).

  22. mj,

    Can you link that please? i tried going on SUS and was so confused by the layout that I gave up on finding whatever it was I was searching for.

  23. Well, Axelrod ran a very ugly ad here in MA where he cast the woman opposing Patrick as a heartless bitch(admittedly, she had run a disgusting ad about Patrick). Anyway, it was effective.

  24. Yet another bit of trouble for Obama, lets get this to the campaign and Fox.

    The co-founder of the radical anti-war group Code Pink has “bundled” more than $50,000 for Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, and pro-troops groups are demanding that he return the money.

    Jodie Evans, a Code Pink leader, gathered at least $50,000 from friends and associates and donated it to Obama’s presidential campaign, according to information compiled by the nonpartisan watchdog group, Public Citizen.

    Evans and her son, a student who lives at her Southern California address, each also gave the maximum individual allowable donation of $2,300 to Obama’s campaign.

    The donations have raised questions about Obama’s association with the more radical elements of his base. Code Pink has harassed, vandalized and impeded military recruiters across the United States in a campaign it calls “counter-recruitment.” The group also gave $600,000 to the families of Iraqi terrorists in Fallujah, whom it called “insurgents” fighting for their homes.

    Families United for Our Troops and Their Mission, Move America Forward, Military Families Voice of Victory, The Band of Mothers and FreeRepublic.com, issued a statement this week saying Obama should cut ties to his radical bundler.

    “Barack Obama’s judgment to be commander-in-chief is seriously in question because of his association with Code Pink’s Jodie Evans and her war against the American military,” the groups said in a joint statement. “If Sen. Obama wants to earn the trust of the American people to send their sons and daughters in harm’s way, he should immediately renounce Evans and return all contributions associated with her.”

  25. “When the liberal reflex is coupled with a Ivy League-educated candidate who seems personally remote and uncomfortable with everyday American activities, it’s electoral poison. After the likes of Al Gore and John Kerry, Republicans had to be wondering, “Could Democrats possibly nominate yet another candidate easily portrayed as an out-of-touch elitist?” With Obama, Democrats appear to be responding with a resounding “Yes, we can!”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_underside_of_hope.html

    Man, am I giddy!

  26. moon

    I agree , BO’s new ad stinks of his arrogance and it will bite him in the A$$

    can you say MONEY BOMB time?? let’s all give $22.44 for PA primary date and .44 to show its from us 😀

  27. Ok, Okie, I’ll take your word for it on Fitz.

    I just remember that one press conference he gave (the baseball analogy, w/the dirt in the umps face) as one of the worst and most tortured statements I’ve ever seen from a public official.

  28. I haven’t seen the ad but it sounds mean spirited.

    Hillary is up big in the SUSa KY poll. Why do I think that Obama will try very hard to knock her out on May 6 when In and NC come up sot hat she doesn’t get to KY and WV where she will have blow outs.

  29. . . . .and here I am (silly me) think’n it was all just 5 hours of legal work, like he told us initially. Oh he was just being “inartful” well what senator obama MEANT to say was . . . .(stay tuned) depends on how much comes out and how much stays hidden.

  30. Is Debbie around?; she may have proof – we were just discussing this yesterday:

    from TM poster:

    Okay, Obama is using footage of the boos at Hillary’s speech yesterday in a new attack as against her.

    It has been said that the boo-ers were paid SEIU members sent there by the 527 specifically to disrupt.

    I wish her campaign would jump on and find some proof of that.

    The ad itself, though, I think is a big mistake on Bambi’s part. It is not well done, and plays into a very nasty picture of Obama that I think he’s dumb to push.

    politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_Represent.html

    WMCB | 04.15.2008 – 4:55 pm | #

  31. Bloomberg and La Times are coming out with a poll that claims to have Obama ‘surging’ in IN. That is a crock as SUSA just yesterday who have polled IN before had her up by 16 and the previous polls all had her up.

    They are using these polls like they always do to try to supress her vote.

    I thinkt hat she will win PA between 10-15pts. I’m thinking 12-13pts.

    The late deciders usually break for her.

  32. Seriously Admin, we need to get that Code Pink bundling out there, he’s taking money from people harrassing and providing money to people killing our military.

  33. dija,

    Yeah. I already responded with a don’t you get the message message. Seat Florida and Michigan BEFORE the nominee is decided or my money goes to McCain.

    👿

  34. I just saw those 3 polls by Bloomberg and as with all pollsters in the tank for Obama not worth looking at. Stick with SUSA and ignore the rest

  35. Even a$$wipe Morris admitting on FOX right now the PA race is tilted toward HRC and you KNOW how he hates her! Grrrrrrrrrrr.i

  36. Isn’t illegal to keep sending emails AFTER I unsubscribe? Well, I have unsubscribed from the DNC list several times, and I keep getting the frickin emails! I told Howy all my extra money goes to Hill and seat the gd delegates!

  37. That new BO ad ain’t much. They dump out of the BO crowd’s brief heckling so fast because there really wasn’t any. How lame.

    Funny how yet again it’s Politico’s Ben Smith who has it first.
    It’s almost as if he has a direct line into the BO camp.

    God did he embarass himself on Lou Dobbbs last night!

  38. Well, we all know, who Bloomberg and the LA Times support. I’m not surprised that their poll would find him “surging.”

  39. moionpluto,

    That’s what I think, too.

    Code Pink, Earth Liberation Front, Chavez supporter, Sadaam Hussein apologist . . . .

  40. # wbboei Says:
    April 15th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    . . . .and here I am (silly me) think’n it was all just 5 hours of legal work, like he told us initially. Oh he was just being “inartful” well what senator obama MEANT to say was . . . .(stay tuned) depends on how much comes out and how much stays hidden.

    Welllll, you know how us attys bill. It was actually just 2.4 hours, but he billed out for 5. 😆

  41. Does Harry Reid think the protracted nomination fight between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton will harm the party? Reid didn’t miss a beat.

    “It makes me bitter,” he deadpanned.

    Then the asshole again predicted it would all be over very soon.
    How do you know this, spineless Harry?!

  42. geraldine ferrara on FOX, now!!!!!!

    Calling out Ozomba on the SEXIST Annie Oakley comments. :mrgreen:

    YIKES! In 2005 Ozomba says (according to gerry) that if he were a white guy he wouldn’t be living in a multi-million dollar mansion, he wouldn’t have a book deal, be a member of senate . . . . .
    Isn’t that what she said and got called her out for????????

  43. Political News
    Indiana Poll Released by Survey USA poll: Barack Obama 39%, Hillary Clinton 55%

    transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=43306&cat=5

  44. The obamatrons are hailing the la times poll as gospel despite the hell that large numbers are missing out of it., lol. Thats the only poll i’ve seen with 25% of the voters missing, lol.

  45. Now BO is “amused” being called an elitist.

    Once again he uses it’s “political silly season” line.

    Tired MFer.

  46. I love Geraldine Ferraro and Bob Johnson comments…they’re right to keep pounding this…you shouldn’t let Obambi take the control of these issues because once you stop talking about your point of view they’ve won.

    I don’t think these comments hurt Hillary or Bob, in fact after Bittergate it just reinforce Obambi’s manufactured image.

    You guys stop worrying about the polls because I have no doubt on the religion part…they prolly oversampled AAs and they wouldn’t have a problem with Obama.

  47. all this show’s voters how much of a politician he really is

    I don’t think you can live in a 1.6 million dollar mansion and claim you’re not a elitist LOL

    He is so out of touch with voters IF he thinks people will not notice the house LOL

  48. I mean seriously according to them there is 25% undecided in INS, 13% undecided in PA and 19% undecided for NC, i think they basically knocked off those % off hillary’s so really, she must be

    PA 59 to 41
    NC about 50/50 and
    IND 60 to 40

    i bet thats the real figures.

  49. That Politico video about BO’s negative ad about jeering Hillary, seems to be the jeers were for BO’s comments as Hillary was saying them, not directed to her.

  50. now you got it moon 😀

    let’s not start acting like the obamabots at dkos and get all wacked out 😀 LOL

  51. Jack Cafferty’s trying to stir the pot:

    BET founder brings race back into the race
    Posted: 02:16 PM ET
    BET Founder Bob Johnson.
    BET Founder Bob Johnson.

    FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:

    The billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television says Barack Obama wouldn’t be his party’s leading presidential candidate if he was white.

    Hillary Clinton supporter Bob Johnson has revived comments previously made by Geraldine Ferraro, telling The Charlotte Observer,

    “What I believe Ferraro meant is that if you take a freshman senator from Illinois called ‘Jerry Smith’ and he says I’m going to run for president, would he start off with 90 percent of the black vote? And the answer is, probably not… Geraldine Ferraro said it right. The problem is, Geraldine Ferraro is white. This campaign has such a hair-trigger on anything racial … it is almost impossible for anybody to say anything.”

    Ferraro stepped down last month as an adviser to the Clinton campaign after she said something similar.

    Obama’s campaign calls the latest remarks “just one in a long line of absurd comments by Johnson and other Clinton supporters who will say or do anything to get the nomination.” They say the American people are tired of this kind of politics.

    Johnson also says Obama is likely to win the nomination and that he has the support of the “liberal media.”

    He stirred up controversy earlier in the campaign when he referred to Obama and “what he was doing in the neighborhood.” Many took that as a reference to drug use, although Johnson later insisted he was talking about Obama’s time as a community organizer.

    Here’s my question to you: What is your reaction to BET founder and Clinton supporter Bob Johnson saying Barack Obama wouldn’t be where he is if he were white?

  52. thats major league shitstirring. lol

    DIJA, i’m not getting whacked out, i just find it incredible that these morons have no brain to work out 40 and 35 makes 75, not 100.

  53. moon, they have a brain. You can poll where you don’t press leaners. It looks like a bad poll anyway, but lots of pollsters don”t press leaners. They are not simply pretending those people don’t exist.

  54. What on earth is wrong with what Bob Johnson said? Someone tell me, would he have the support of 90% of AA voters, if he was white?

  55. Shit. I’ll agree with ;evil:, Gerry and Bob. 👿 wouldn’t be rich, wouldn’t have a book deal, wouldn’t have been law editor, wouldn’t be senator and wouldn’t be in this race if his ass weren’t black.

    There I said it. Somebody please do me the favor of calling me a racist so I can slug ’em. ;D

    Actually, the whole thing is so damn absurd.

    Anyone see The View this morning? Sherri Shepherd said she’s getting harassed for supporting Hillary by her black friends and family. It cam up in the discussion of Tavis Smiley leaving Tom Joyner bc of the threats and stuff. And he’s not even a HRC supporter. he just questions 👿 .

  56. # Blue Democrat Says:
    April 15th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    McCain starting to whack BO on Hardball now.

    That sounds really bad.

  57. I love it, the Obamatrons are pushing the meme that Rev Wright has helped Obama in PA, can i laugh now.

  58. Where, moon?

    I think they should re-read the question again. The question was qualified with the word “personally.” Folks listen carefully to polls and how they are worded thinking they are a trick (they are) and pay too much attention to the qualifier. That’s why that poll result is there.

  59. holy shit you people type fast, LOL I had a phone call and come back and wham! LOL

    anyways

    Moon, I wasn’t saying you were wacked out LOL…….it was a comment to the list in general but not meant to be offensive at all.

  60. Could everyone please thank this video maker Flineo, he is the one that has made these amazing videos about obama, you can leave a message of thanks for him here. I think he really has made the media and the others really shows there colors in his videos! Thank you!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Flineo

  61. Yeah, he’s incredible.

    Admin, you didn’t answer my question, are there two others shoes to be dropped? I didn’t understand the end of your post.

  62. nah, DIJA, didnt take it as offensive, but those idiots, some of them need to be taken into a room by a group of us and slapped silly until they see sense.

    Hands up, who’s up for it, lol.

  63. Obama is officially committing suicide, what an asshole

    Obama calls elitism attack “political silly season”

    So he thinks calling them names is “political silly season” and “amusing”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1516902320080415?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

    WASHINGTON, Pennsylvania (Reuters) – Presidential hopeful Barack Obama, accused of being elitist for remarks he made about small-town American voters, said on Tuesday the slap at his background is amusing and signals a nation in the midst of “political silly season.”

    The Democratic senator, campaigning in Pennsylvania, dismissed the charges of being elitist and out of touch by fellow Democrat Hillary Clinton and by Republican John McCain as unfounded, given his background.

    “I am amused about this notion of elitist, given that when you’re raised by a single mom, when you were on food stamps for a while when you were growing up, you went to school on scholarship,” he told a town hall meeting of U.S. military veterans in western Pennsylvania.

  64. moon,

    because i own horses

    I would first have them all clean the pastures and stalls for me…..then i would immediately put a lead line on them and get out my “carrot stick” (i do natural horsemanship..PNH) and run em in circles and make them do lead changes till they admitted that Hillary is the best and is ahead and will win the primary and election LOL

  65. Did Obama really explain his comments saying something about men having to be retrained as nurses assistants?

  66. I cant believe he has shown more contempt for his words by now saying its “amusing” and “political silly season”. Oh i hope they rip him a new asshole for that now.

  67. Deep Inside ‘Bittergate’

    The secret story of how Obama’s gaffe made its way to the Huffington Post, of all places, and how it might affect campaign coverage from now on.
    pajamasmedia.com/blog/deep-inside-bittergate/
    ——————————————————————-
    I love these quotes:

    “It’s stunning,” Arianna Huffington told me last night, “the way the Clinton campaign has completely distorted the meaning of what he said. It’s stunning Hillary chose to confirm every right-wing demagogic characteristic about her own party.”

    That, according to sources, is when Arianna Huffington, thousands of miles away in the South Pacific where she was staying on billionaire Obama backer David Geffen’s 454-foot yacht, learned of the brewing issue. She signed off on the story, which was then underway.

    “Roy (Sekoff) and I were on the phone multiple times,” says Huffington. “I agreed with how he and Marc (Cooper) decided to handle it, placing Obama’s thoughts in context and avoiding sensationalism.”

    And from the standpoint of Obama campaign figures, the material was gotten under false pretenses. One top Obama hand speaks of the campaign and candidate being blindsided. Fowler was a supporter, a contributor, an activist, a blogger, not a reporter. With the event closed to the press, Obama spoke with less care than he would have otherwise had he known a reporter, of any sort, was in attendance.

  68. he said a few things, but was talking about how obama keeps changing his “view” on what he said, basically he’s flip flopping like a fish (my words)

    also said that obama is a empty canvas on which is now getting painted with the story of who he is and its going to continue to be painted on between now and november so he better get used to it 😀

  69. basically so, he spoke off the record, fucked small town america over and got caught, plain and simple. No mispeaking, he fucking meant every word of it.

  70. Ralph Nader Says He’s At 10 Percent in Michigan
    By Christopher Keating on April 15, 2008 5:14 PM | Permalink | Comments (0)
    Connecticut native Ralph Nader, who still maintains his voting address at the family home in Winsted, has not been on the national radar screen much lately in the presidential race.

    He certainly has not been getting the media attention that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain have been generating.

    But Nader announced Tuesday that a Lansing-based poll shows him at 10 percent in Michigan in a three-way battle. The EPIC-MRA poll has McCain at 46 percent, Clinton at 37 percent and Nader at 10 percent.

    If Obama is the Democratic nominee, the poll has Obama at 43 percent, McCain at 41 percent and Nader in third place at 8 percent.

    “Given the virtually total corporate media blackout, this is a remarkable result,” the Nader campaign said. “And we are heartened by it. For Clinton, Obama, and McCain, 10 percent might seem like peanuts. But for Nader/Gonzalez, it shows we’re on our way up.”
    blogs.courant.com/capitol_watch/2008/04/ralph-nader-says-hes-at-10-per.html

  71. basil………MO comments
    h t t p : / / w w w . politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Michelle_addresses_elitism_and_all_of_that.html#comments

  72. This Pajamas Media blog really shows the close alignment of Huffpost with Obama’s campaign. Although we shouldn’t be surprised, there were some things I didn’t know – how coordinated things were:

    “Huffington Post is run out of Huffington’s Brentwood home in Los Angeles –where editor Roy Sekoff works– and an office in Manhattan, where HuffPo co-founder Ken Lerer –who hosted an Obama fundraiser last year at his Central Park West apartment– lives and works.” [snip]

    “Roy (Sekoff) and I were on the phone multiple times,” says Huffington. “I agreed with how he and Marc (Cooper) decided to handle it, placing Obama’s thoughts in context and avoiding sensationalism.”

    She had not, according to sources, been thrilled with Fowler’s earlier piece from the private fundraiser, with a cocky Obama saying he didn’t need a running mate with foreign policy expertise.

    Huffington’s partner in New York, Ken Lerer, according to sources, had not liked the first piece either. Nor was he happy about the second piece. Lerer talked yesterday with top Obama campaign figures in New York and elsewhere.

  73. Are those the comments where she says BO won’t allow those rural voters to stay uninvolved and uniformed?

  74. Taylor Marsh shooting down that Gore/Carter rumor:

    Oh, and speaking of Florida, you know that rumor about Al Gore allegedly pairing with Jimmy Carter to resolve the primary fight? Pure rubbish. I heard it from Gore’s communication’s director Kalee D. Kreider today via email. Krider said they tried to get a retraction, but the Scotland wouldn’t do it. Repeat after me: Gore is not involved in the primary. Period. Frankly, I never believed the report; Gore’s much too smart to get involved in this mess.

    and also more on the consequences of stiffing FL:

    McCain takes out Obama in a general election Florida match up.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in Florida shows McCain attracting 53% of the vote while Obama earns 38%.

  75. Cut and post this. E-mail the text to everyone far and wide. Money Bomb time… I think this one is good let me know what you think.

    cashonistas.blogspot.com/2008/04/they-do-not-speak-for-me.html

  76. That’s a fair, good ad. I worry a little about negative ads, because when you are doing really well you usually don’t need them. But good ad.

  77. mj Says:

    April 14th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
    Someone posted a letter by Garin asking for thoughts/advice. Does anyone have his email?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    If you have been involved in the campaign anytime in the last 15 months, you will get Geoff’s email, trust me.

  78. h t t p : / / w w w . tampabay.com/news/politics/national/article456726.ece

    RANTHAM, Pa. — Hillary Rodham Clinton rejected the idea of a backroom compromise deal between the candidates to resolve Florida’s Democratic delegate mess, insisting a solution must come from the national Democratic Party.

    And failing to give Florida and Michigan a voice in the presidential nomination would leave the legitimacy of the nomination in question, the New York senator said.

    In an exclusive interview with the St. Petersburg Times, Clinton offered her most extensive remarks on the delegate problem and pushed back at the Democratic National Committee’s philosophy of having the campaigns approve a settlement.

    “I don’t think it’s up to Sen. (Barack) Obama or me to dictate any resolution. I think it’s up to the DNC to decide how to proceed, and I would hope that it would do so recognizing what’s at stake,” Clinton said in the interview late Sunday. “It would be tragic if we came out of this process ignoring the will of 1.7-million Floridians, setting us up for a very unhappy electorate in the fall, giving Republicans this incredible argument they could make against us.”

  79. OBAMA COULD SNUB KATIE COURIC

    By DON KAPLAN
    April 15, 2008 —

    Katie Couric’s reported status as a lame duck may torpedo what was supposed to be her biggest night – a starring role as the host of a presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
    CBS is still waiting to hear from the Sen. Obama campaign about whether he will agree to a proposed debate before the North Carolina Democratic primary.

    MORE COVERAGE

    It’s a Poison Penn. for Dems

    Hillary Throws One Back

    It Takes an Elitist to Know One, Sen. Clinton

    More TV News Coverage

    The network – which has not hosted any of the previous 24 debates or forums – is offering Obama a plum timeslot, right after “60 Minutes” on April 27.

    Sen. Clinton has already signed off on the debate.

    But reports that Couric is getting ready to leave the newscast after the election – or even sooner – are not helping her chances of landing a debate for CBS.

    She even visited the Obama campaign offices in Chicago last week where she reportedly tried to sway the candidate – so far, without luck.

    “Certainly there is now the impression that she is not someone to worry about after inauguration day,” says a former White House official with experience in these matters. “The feeling is that you’re dealing with the No. 3-ranked news division and a potentially lame-duck news anchor.
    “The thought that the current gossip would affect a decision of such national importance is absurd,” a CBS News spokeswoman said.
    Obama and Clinton are set to debate tomorrow – on ABC – before the Pennsylvania primary next Tuesday.
    North Carolina holds its primary May 6. But because Obama is leading in that state’s polls, his campaign apparently believes he may not need to do another debate.

  80. What does this mean?

    It’s a Poison Penn. for Dems

    Hillary Throws One Back

    It Takes an Elitist to Know One, Sen. Clinton

  81. Just wait a week and see if he still feels he does not need another debate. A blowout in PA and then tightening polls in NC he will look like he is hiding from Hillary by backing out of the debate.

  82. well let’s see,

    LD show, showed hill’s new ad, read and played the sound clip from hills campaign about BO transparency problems, taxes and senate papers that are missing etc

    even covered that BO put on a Pin and Lou shamed him(BO) for his original comment of why he doesn’t feel he needs to wear one…

    let’s see what else….talked about the polls being all over the place

    I am sure i am missing a few things, but those were the biggies 😀

  83. oh yea and the fact that BO keeps “trying” to explain his comments but has not yet apologized for them

  84. If only the rest of the press were covering it this way. My mom heard something about “if she wins by 20 points”, talk about your high bars.

  85. a plug for TM: from her site

    Can’t Do This Alone

    Taylor Marsh LIVE!
    3:00 p.m. eastern – 12:00 pacific
    Missed the show? Podcast is up.

    Doing radio is a wild ride. If you’re not on the air it’s hard to get an opportunity. The other challenge is that progressive hosts are locked out in many instances and markets. Once you’re off the air it’s even tougher to get back on. Obviously, we’ve been working to get back on the air for quite a while. But I can’t do this alone.

    If you want to listen to me live please get involved. Keep my name in front of Air America, but also XM.

    Another goal is to get someone fair to Hillary Clinton up on the airwaves, which will be especially important if she’s the nominee. Wingnut radio will give her a lot of trouble. As for the immediate term, nobody is stating the case for Clinton. Radio is an appallingly bad environment for anything pro Clinton, or even fair to her.

    If you want to listen to me live, plus keep this show going, I need you to get involved. This can’t be a one shot effort either, but an ongoing campaign. Write, spread the word to friends, especially those who are Hillary supporters, send emails. Tell them you’d listen if I was a host on their airwaves. It could make the difference.

    Open radio thread. Standard rule: no clinging.

    To add… Get a load of this: 100 KEYSTONE MAYORS FOR HILLARY!

  86. lou dobbs should be honorary Hillaryis44. Is he the only journalist living in reality? everything else is turned upside down.

  87. on dobbs, they said since the ohio and NJ were both 54-44% and that was a 10% lead for her she would need to do better than that spread to be considered having momentum and if obama lost by more than 5% it would mean Big problems for obama

  88. djia, I am a little confused. She needs to win by more than ten, but if loses by more than 5 it’s bad for him?

  89. personally , i think if BO looses period it should spell BIG trouble for him, after all the money he has sunk into PA

  90. Everyone,

    We should send Dobbs an appreciation gift basket.

    I would be willing to coordinate it.

    If enough people are interested we can do it through Hillbilly’s site.

    Anyone else in? I’d say contributions should start at $5. Once I have a list of people I’ll give those who want to participate my addy and you can just send and I’ll solicit suggestions for the basket contents and the card and order and send to Lou. Maybe everyone who participates could write a sentence or two . . . I dunnoi. . . . . whaddayathink?

  91. LOL

    since the win spread on both NJ and OH was 54-44……..they said she needs to show a bigger win than that to show she has new momentum (which is BS)

    and if he looses PA by 5% or more it will show big trouble for him (I think if he looses period it says he can’t win against mc cain)

  92. MJ!

    “Well, that makes no sense. If she wins by ten he loses by more than 5.”

    You seem to forget you’re addressing some of the severely mathematically impaired! 😳

    I confess . . . what the heck do you mean?????? *LOL*

  93. basil9 Says:
    April 15th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    MJ!

    “Well, that makes no sense. If she wins by ten he loses by more than 5.”

    You seem to forget you’re addressing some of the severely mathematically impaired! 😳

    I confess . . . what the heck do you mean?????? *LOL*
    *************************************************

    It doesn’t make sense at all…..it’s just what they said

  94. If Hillary can get at least 10% a winner.

    They are comparing her percentages to what she did on ST.

    If she maintains a 10% lead it means she is stronger now than on SuperTuesday .. and with the demographics necessary.

    That is why we need to gotv.

  95. Admin, you still have not answered my question. What does this mean?

    “There are two more torpedoes headed Obama’s way. “

  96. djia,

    Checked the site. That’s cute.

    Maybe that along with something tangible – like a wine and cheese basket – something that will be delivered directly to his office.

  97. mj, it’s in the post. Rezco was the one she/he last addressed, the other two are Wright and Bitterness.

  98. I think it was just worded a little oddly. I only WISH there were more “secret” torpedoes out there! There probably are, what with Obama’s lack of vetting. Let’s hope more show up.

  99. Frankly, I can not see how or why the SD’s are not out of their mind worried about Rezco. Why is he being named by the defense in this case? Ok, maybe ot have him come in as a character witness, but so? How influential could he be? He’d likely just try to cover his own ass and say as little as possible in defense of Rezco.

  100. I think the 3 torpedo’s are:
    1. Rezko trial doing the math of rezko,auchi and obama
    2the up coming debate…….Hillary is going hit him hard
    3 PA primary “routed” results

  101. Bartender describes Clinton’s shot, beer
    April 15, 2008
    By John Byrne Post-Tribune staff writer

    CROWN POINT — Call it the Shot Heard ‘Round the World.

    The glass of Crown Royal whiskey Sen. Hillary Clinton drank at Bronko’s restaurant Saturday night has become a talking point in the Democratic presidential primary, and made a minor celebrity of bartender Russ Panning.
    Panning offered Clinton the shot to go along with a mug of draft Old Style she was drinking in the lounge at Bronko’s during an unannounced appearance after a speech in Valparaiso.

    Now he’s appearing on various news programs and trying to set the record straight about the libation.

    “I was interviewed on (a Chicago radio station Monday), and they said, ‘So, she was tossing back shots?'” Panning said.

    “I said ‘No, she sipped it. That’s what we do here, we sip our shots with our beer.’

    “They said, ‘You don’t sip shots, you toss ’em back.’ I told them they don’t know what they’re talking about, and they told me I was getting combative,” he said.

    “Listen, I don’t want to do any damage to her campaign,” Panning added. “She didn’t just appear, down a shot of whisky and leave. She spent a lot of time talking to just about everybody in the restaurant. She sat down and had dinner.”

    Syndicated news program “Inside Edition” sent a camera crew to Bronko’s, and they too wanted to talk principally about the Crown Royal, Panning said.

    “I hate to see this reduced to the shot of whisky, like Sen. Clinton was here boozing or something. She spent about two hours here,” he said.

    Sen. Barack Obama has accused Clinton of pandering to the working class with her stop at the Main Street eatery, telling a crowd in Pittsburgh on Monday that candidates will do anything for votes, even “come around, with TV crews in tow, to throw back a shot and a beer.”
    But Panning said the entire scene felt genuine.
    “I just asked her if she wanted a shot, and she said, ‘Sure,’ ” he said. “Nobody suggested I offer it to her or anything like that.”

    The Associated Press contributed to this article.

  102. birdgal, I think so too. It hit right into BHO’s character. He says one thing in front of the camera and do another thing behind the door (NAFTA-gate, Bitter-gate, and don’t-take-oil-campany -money-gate)

  103. I just think it’s a kicker that the Nancy Grace Show garners more ratings than anyone except BigOreilly,H&C, Grace beats the shit out of the whole MSNBC and Campbell Brownie eyes show.

  104. dot48 Says:

    April 15th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
    Dobbs .. there isn’t a record there!!!!!! PRICELESS ..

    Casey getting crippled. Lou is so smart!

    Can you explain this?

  105. All Right Lou!! Senator Casey saying Obama will rely on his record and Dobbs replied “The only problem with the record is that there is no record there”

  106. hannity and colmes

    I swear this is the best Lou Dobbs has ever been.

    Casey is just getting all whipped up! Gotta love it.

  107. basil9

    Sign me up and lets get it on a roll! This will show everyone how much we appreciate people that stand up to the hype and we should have it sent to him at the station!

  108. Casey on Lou Dobbs is getting slaughtered. Priceless…this is worth more than any frickin ad!

    Bless you Lou.

  109. I dont have cable but if you guys get this footage with Dobbs and Casey please tell me where to see it or put it here please thanks!

  110. Senator Casey saying Obama will rely on his record and Dobbs replied “The only problem with the record is that there is no record there”

    Lou Dodd, the best journalist of the year.

  111. D@mn! And I switched off the tube when Casey came on. Grrrrrrrrr.

    Too bad Lou hasn’t hosted any of the debates. he woulda been great.

    djia,

    maybe we can get started with the squidnote. Do you know how to do it?

  112. basil, i have only signed one , so not sure how to set one up

    i am sure they have instructions 😀 LOL

  113. from tm comment,

    bob casey…trying to explain why BO has a slim record says you don’t have to pass legislation in the senate to establish a record.

  114. Is Okie or any lawyer around? I am trying to wrap my head around if there is another reason other than calling him to testify why the defense would bring Obama into the trial. Could it just be to remind voters they are friends so Rezco can not be that bad? Or, is that unlikely? Does the defense bringing him up signal they will call him to the stand? If it does, I have to wonder what on earth the Dem establishment is thinking? Even if he is just called to the stand, can you imaging the nominee for the presidency taking the stand in a political corruption trial?

  115. bill o ” it’s not like everyone who is upset with the economy is running out to by a bazooka” LOL

  116. He also already intimated that whitees not voting for BO are racists. Which always leads me back to would african amerbe voting for him if he were white? No. Why? Because his message with lack of qualifications isn’t braodly appealing.

  117. where is the msm at ?? bill o just learned about wrights mansion TODAY! we’ve known about it over a month now

    honest to gawd…………

  118. and the thing is he chose to build this fancy house in a predominately white neighborhood. So much for the teaching at TUCC …oreilly says he liberated himself lol

  119. the thing is there is sooo much for them to use on bambi … all the gates and all. the gift that keeps giving.

  120. Ok djia,
    I’ll check it out.
    So far it’s me, djia and winhillary for a Lou gift. I’ll give it a couple of days and post about this some more and maybe make the deadline Friday or Saturday so we can send something in time for the PA Primary.

    Maher INSULTED the pope horribly! Bill=O and Newt saying that if maher had made such remarks about Muslims, or AA’s he would have been fired. it’s despicable – insulting 1 billion catholics. Newt says christians need to start a christian anti-defamation league. I’m not even christian or a member of any organized religion and I’m PO’D. What a friggin double standard.

  121. OK skmf. Will keep you posted. 🙂

    WInhillary – transcripts of Lou’s show are usually available the next day on his web site.

    I wanna see it, too.

  122. I’m in to send something to the Dobbs. I still have issues with some of his immigration rants, but dammit, the man has been fair, and GETS the concerns of the working class.

  123. hillaryfortexas,

    Ok, added you to the list!

    maher royally insulted the pope, comparing the catholic clergy to the cult situation with those young women forced to marry older men – i haven’t been following that case, much – and saying that catholics have been doing the same thing to kids for centuries. he went on to say more vile things but i wasn’t paying that much attention.

    But I sure caught his nasty tone – it was like Rhodes calling HRC a whore.

  124. I’ll write lou again.saying thank you thank you..and i laughed you stunned Mr Casey…get that guy out of office omg..terrible..he thinks bo has slim record
    its a dirty record,burned with lies..

  125. I just read a quote from another blog that on MTP Carville said “there is a large swath of Dems who would like to win without working class whites”. Is that true?

  126. he lost those Hunters votes..no dubt about it..he doesnt know that these hunters travel to other states to line up to draw for elk deer mooose..and there is thousands of thousands of men that send in just to draw one tag

  127. RJK – that politico article is good overall except when Simon talks about the “math against Clinton” again –

    DUH? isn’t that what superdelegates are for? to choose someone electable.

    I mean do these Obama supporters actually believe HE should win the nomination while losing in the FALL?…as if we are on this unstoppable, SS Obama about to hit an ice-berg and sink, and that’s OK.

  128. cj, if i can figure out this squidnote thing I’ll post it here so you can add your comments there, as well.

    😀

  129. Well, CJ I can not believe those Wyoming guys who voted for BO. Wonder what they think of all this, or if they are still drunk on the kool aid.

  130. So it occurs to me one of the best parts of ‘Bittergate’ is it has forced the right wing media (of which people like Simon are a camoflouged part) to stay actively involved at a time they otherwise wouldn’t have.

    I think they were more than happy to let ‘the clock run out’ (though I don’t believe there is a such a clock in Hill’s case) on the process here and, in their minds at least, then get to work on BO for the general.
    They can’t do that now, not only because there’s a such an opening Obama has given them it’d be irresponsible of them not to damage a potential opponent, but because that opening directly relates to what have historically been republican issues, namely, gods, gays, and guns.

  131. Just a heads up; my experience in certain settings tells me if you like what Dobbs is doing, sending him something is not what you want to do.

  132. I am so sick of BO. He’s such a phoney. i honestly don’t see what appeal he has to anyone at this point. I’m surprised he has not sunk like a souffle.

  133. nettabug,
    got you down.
    Dijia,

    now i GOTTA figure it out. Note to self: Project for tomorrow – figure out squidnotes.

    BTW – Hannity interviewing Romney and he is APPALLED by Ozomba’s remarks.

    G’night, all

  134. Bill Schneider is such a tool, he said that Hillary is expected to win PA by a landslide since she won OH and NJ, PA’s neighbor’s by a landslide, so they only way she can show she has momentum is to win by ore than a landslide. It’s good to be Obama.Thank god he only has to stay upright and lose by less than unanimity to show “momentum.”

  135. You want a huge laugh

    news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/04/14/hot-seat-is-obama-a-fake-christian

    According to this online poll, every state, and i mean every state is saying that Obama is a fake Christian to the tune of 59% or more for the entire country.

    Seriously go look, its hilarious, he’s not winning one state in that pool except for the district of DC, lol.

  136. bluedem,

    just caught your post.

    I understand where you’re coming from. The goal isn’t to influence Dobbs as HRC supporters and that won’t be a part of the message, just to acknowledge him as a fine, objective journalist and let him know how much viewers appreciate that.

    What do you think?

    I will check tomorrow for your answer.

  137. I saw a Priest today talking about the Pope and some how the reporter changed the subject to Obama and hope. The Priest said the Pope offers authentic not fake hope.

  138. I hate when people call Obama the underdog here in PA or that he shouldn’t win. AAAA HELLO the guy has more positive press than the Pope, he is outspending his opponent 5-1, his opponent apparently cannot win because of math, AND the media has touted Obama as the leader of a mass movement. SO HOW IN THE WORLD is he considered the underdog in PA? If he loses by 3 points I’d call it an upset.

  139. If Obama farted, his worshippers would be rushing to bottle the scent and hail it as the new holy grail. Thats how bad it is.

  140. is Hillary going to be with the pope in NY? I would think so as the senator she would go with him to ground zero

  141. you find these things when you are mooching about but its hilarious, not one state believes Obama’s a real christian, lol.

  142. And yet the headlines on Drudge and CNN Political ticker say he is only 5% down in PA and 5% up in Indiana!!!! Also, he is up 51-40 nationally!!! It’s just incredible how stupid people are.

  143. You can bet Obama will try and muscle his way in there somewhere, would not be surprised if he popped out from under the pope’s gown to try and steal some airtime.

  144. jbstonesfan, that is because of the 6 polls to come out this week, they are going with the ONE worthless LaTimes/Bloomberg poll that favors Obama.

    LA Times endorsed him, and is totally in the tank for him.

  145. I received another e-mail from the DNC today asking for money…I advised that they will never receive a red cent from me for the way they have treated Hillary and my Florida vote. I then advised I was switching from a life long democrat to republican and would actively support McCain if BO gets the nomination. I am sure they will e-mail me again.

  146. If BHO is down only 5% down in PA, why don’t they expect him to win PA then? Obviously the pro-BHO polls show BHO is surging. BHO has to win both PA and IN, otherwise I say he should get out of the race!

  147. well lets put it like this, if these show him surging in PA and he loses by 20, they are going to look mightly fucking stupid and Obama will look like he choked it, again, like he was surging in Ohio and in California. So let them build Obama up all they like, be all the sweeter for us when he gets fucked royally next week.

  148. In case you haven’t seen this:
    “Obama blogger not bitter”
    Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer
    “Here’s a good bit of the backstory on the blogger who caught Obama’s remarks at a fundraising event in San Francisco that have raised such a stir. Her name is Mayhill Fowler, and she’s one of 1,800 “citizen journalists” recruited for the OffTheBus.net Web site published by Huffington Post. She’s given money to Obama and supports him (though she also gave $100 to Hillary) — standards are different for citizen-bloggers I guess — and she’s attended fundraising events before and blogged about them without any complaints. Nobody told her this was off-the-record, though apparently the person who secured the ticket for her has subsequently told her this was supposed to be. She heard about this event and wangled an invite. She was initially reluctant to write about the Obama’s smug sophomoric analysis of small-town motivations — figured it could hurt him — but finally decided her obligation as a reporter outweighed her status as a supporter. In addition, she noted there were dozens of people with cameras, from cellphone to professional rigs, and she was openly rather than clandestinely recording it, sitting right next to campaign staff, who didn’t object. Furthermore:
    “I’m a religious person, and I grew up poor in a very wealthy family — sometimes we didn’t have enough to eat but my larger family was rich.” Her father was a hunter. “Immediately, the remarks just really bothered me. For the first time, I realized he is an elitist.”
    I would say someone who picked up leftist theories and attitudes, probably in college, and never took the trouble to rethink them, but that’s a quibble.
    Anyway, the whole flap is another example of how the Internet is changing politics

  149. Donna Brazile evidently worried about some of Obama’s issues…from the Wall Street Journal

    online.wsj.com/article/SB120821921853714665.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

  150. I think Clinton should come out and condem Carter as it will solidify her Jewish vote while BO will not want to criticise his SD Carter(worst President ever imo).

  151. pk basil will do…and mj Says:

    Well, CJ I can not believe those Wyoming guys who voted for BO. Wonder what they think of all this, or if they are still drunk on the kool aid.
    i know a few who are mad but if they would have known wright and all this cling to guns stuff and were told the truth by the media wyoming some i know feel really stupid..but they would never come out to say it…. hillary would have won

  152. “so they only way she can show she has momentum is to win by more than a landslide.”

    So anything less than getting every single PA vote is a loss for Hill.
    Thanks for clarifying, Mr Schneider.

    Basil,
    A nice letter is always best I’d think.

  153. When Benedict visits ground zero, the site of the World Trade Center attack, on April 20, the only public figures invited to accompany him are New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine and New York Gov. David Paterson. The site is owned and managed by the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24037177/

    Pope trying to avoid American politics on visit. At least 2 of the 3 public officials at ground zero with him will be Hillary Super delegates.

  154. basically Americangal, that guy is saying, Democrats nominate Obama at your peril, he’s a disaster.

  155. Ridiculous that Hillary not invited!!!! Bloomberg has become a kool -aide drinker as well…shame on him.
    Lastly, my MOm, a 78 yr old life long democrat sat down with me yesterday and when I asked how this could be happening, her answer was “men still won’t vote for a woman” ….sad, but probably true. No way BO should have got all these male votes over Hillary!!!!

  156. and then wyo mt soutd..will cling to there guns for there sporting events…
    and i think daschle will get alott of flack from the hunters for endorsing bo…they already started
    and its no vote ozomba…especially the hard core hunters elder men younger men..at my work there is 4 that hunt there gonna vote hillary

  157. Donna Brazile, Al Gore’s 2000 campaign manager and an undeclared super delegate, is worried. “With the Wright controversy still lingering and now Obama’s unartful comments,” she told CNN, “it will paint the picture of Obama as being ‘out of sync.'”
    **********
    well if this is true, then someone better tell brill she better get on her broom and head on over to hillary camp and start supporting the candidate that can surely win the GE 😀

  158. i think lou dobbs will put bill s in his place lou laft at him last week when he said bo on the tour bus was going as the ousder canidate lou looked down as was gonna laugh…lou will pull him aside sooner or later ..get the koolaid detox out..

  159. Instead of the basket for Dobbs, why not donate the money at HillaryClintion.com? She needs money now. Lou could live without the basket.

  160. Where was Hillary today? I didnt see her wheresabout on the website (www.hillaryclinton.com) and I know tomorrow is the debate but what’s she doing?

  161. Obama is an arrogant elitist man imo…his wife, is far worse…this campaign is the most disingenuous set of circumstances we have ever seen. From the Manchurian like candidacy of BO, the media promoting him in epic numbers, and the outright hatred we see towards the Clinton’s , manifested by once trusted friends, who have abandoned them (Judas Richardson, Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean, Brazille, etc). By the way, since Dean got involved as a candidate in 04 , and now as DNC chair, the party has gone down the proverbial sh—-. Gore also shoild look at himself as he ran a horrible campaign in 2000 , lost his home stae, and refused to use Clinton, yet blames him for his loss!!!!

  162. jbstonesfan,

    Knock it off. There are plenty of polls showing her way up. Please put something positive or constructive or bug off.

  163. Hillary is probably preparing for the debates-the one against BO and the other against the questioners. I hope she has a good answer when he pulls that “shame on you” bs!!!

  164. Money Bomb….e-mail around. From cashonistas.blogspot.com

    Tuesday, April 15, 2008
    They Do Not Speak for Me

    I’ve been sick and tired of the MSNBC’s, the CNN’s, the CBS’s of the world for a long time now. It started about a year ago when all of the candidates started their tours of cornfields in Iowa and college campuses. Not that I hate election time. I like it. Many of us do. It reminds us what is so important, so vital to our nation and this remarkable, fragile thing we have called Democracy.

    It sets us apart. And so did, once upon a time, our “free” press.

    Not anymore.

    Instead they are corporate conglomerations of big, Consort-sprayed haired, know-it-alls looking to improve their demographics so they can turn a buck. Nevermind the need for a free and unhampered press to look into vital issues of the day and report back to us so we can make decisions at the polls and for our families.

    No. Now it is a business where “if it bleeds, it leads” rules the day. Given that in a time of war, and in a culture now resolute in its insistence it bury its head in the sand lest there be bad news that might make folks feel bad, blood doesn’t exactly sell advertising minutes, they come up with the closest thing to a real “fight” that they can- They manufacture a primary race.

    They push aside good candidates with lengthy resumes and who have earned respect for their years of service for flash and a good, snappy soundbyte. Nevermind that there are real issues such as high food prices, high gas prices, a subprime lending crisis and two wars on in distant lands against foes who would destroy us, and our liberties here at home.

    These Big Media and Big Blog types get together every morning and decide what the “story” will be. Instead of focusing on oil breaking another record today ($114 a barrel last I saw it), or the Pope being here, or the rash of car bombings killing innocents in Iraq, they focus on their own self-generated polls which are scientifically inaccurate, they push a crazy story that one candidate is “attacking” another for denigrating blue-collar Americans, or worse yet– focus on someone’s laugh or choice of adult beverage.

    The stories the Big Media and their counterparts in the Internet blogs sell are fiction. They neglect to tell you when they are paid advisers to campaigns or in line for a job, they “misspeak” when they accuse one candidate of “pimping” out their daughter, they shut down and ostracize those who question their meme of the day. They ridicule and harass anyone who dares speak truth to them.

    It’s a far cry from the days of our Founders. Days when heroes like Benjamin Franklin gathered in Constitution Hall and hammered out a courageous document and set of shared values that would ensure a free press, the continued right to bear arms, to practice one’s religion without interference and freedom from the transgressions of an overreaching government. Benjamin Franklin was a leader, a philosopher, a respected thinker of the day. He would hate that what he fought for has become a cesspool of corporate greed and cronyism. Moreover, so would the men and women who came after- in knowing that their sacrifices and hard work have been for naught.

    I ask you to join me and the other Cashonistas in donating $25.44 or more to stopping the erosion of what used to be the values of all Americans and not just those with money or access to influence. On April 17th, the day of Benjamin Franklin’s death, go to http://www.HillaryClinton.com and contribute. First, your money, because money makes the world go round and advertising is expensive. Second, stay a few minutes and use the “Action” button to make calls now to Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky and North Carolina. And third, pass this as an e-mail on to others. They need to know they are not alone and there is something they can do.

    There are more like us out there for whom Big Media and the Big Blogs do not speak. Show them that no matter what they say, no matter what they do- Hillary is 44 and that Democracy and all the precious gifts that come with it will survive.

  165. mj-hard to say without reviewing the pleadings. At a minimum it is an attempt to legitimatize his client in the eyes of a Chicago jury, some of whom may be Obama supporters. It could be part of his defense to one or more predicate acts since I assume the case was filed under RICO. It could even be a teaser for post conviction settlement discussions. The first part I am reasonably sure of the second and third parts are pure speculation. The thing to do is just watch and see how it unfolds. There is alot of information which the jury will never hear because of the rules of evidence and motions in limanae. The other thing to remember is the presumption of innocence. Fitzgerald is a good prosecutor and so is his deputy who is trying the case. We shall see where it all leads. My guess is it will pave the way for a reform movement and perhaps Obama can be part of that when he runs for governor at the conclusion of his current senate term.

  166. thanks I did not see that, I am also sure Hillary’s resting up, I pray she does well – I know she will!

  167. I have maxed out at $4600 for wife and me………………I hope she uses all she has to trounce this bastard in PA, Indiana, West Virginia, KY, and Puerto Rico….The only questionable sate appears Indiana, which is puzzling to me.

  168. Do you agree with the comments of Geraldine Ferraro and Robert Johnson about Senator Obama?
    no 28% (1214 votes)
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    yes 72% (3103 votes)
    feedback bar
    not sure % (2 votes)
    feedback bar
    Total Votes: 4304

  169. wbboei, I have a female lawyer friend in Chicago, who has represented some “connected” people.

    She has told me categorically that based on things she knows, Obama is involved up to his neck with very very shady business in a lot of byzantine ways, but will not and cannot tell me any more than that due to client confidentiality.

  170. i have no doubt about that, that guy is a schyster of the first order and pulling the biggest con job ever.

  171. If she spoke in DC today, she can sleep in her own bed tonight 🙂

    That’s good for anybody.

    Does Congress have a date with the Pope tomorrow?

  172. I rhink he helped this Auchi get a passport hence the home purchase. That’s what it looks like to me, but what do I know.

  173. I wouldnt be surprised if Bambi tried to have the pope baptize him live at the debate just to prove he’s a christian to the voters.

  174. I’m sorta with wbboei on the Rezko item. My gut tells me that it’s a setup for testimony later on by 👿 or someone else. I mentioned that yesterday on the prior thread on bitterness.

    If you are defense counsel in a trial as large as this one, where everything hinges on conspiracies wrapped within conspiracies, you try to knot up the thread. The AUSA will pull on all loose threads as part of their job. In this case, Fitz is methodically showing that politicians were putting money men or their surrogates in positions in which they could influence 1) contract awards (hence kickbacks) or 2) ease development (hence large campaign contributions from every 5th cousin of a defendant). So far, it looks like Fitz is getting there, but it’s a slow process. Rezko’s atty is throwing sand in the jurors eyes. He can use 👿 as a distraction knowing he won’t go anywhere but leaving the jury expecting him to which means they ignore other evidence, or maybe he was hoping to bring testimony from others at that party saying 👿 wasn’t there and pointing to Levine as liar (impossible since 2 more witnesses have come forward according to RW today- nice work B on closing that loophole).

    There is another nefarious idea which is Rezko is signaling he’s got something to trade. What? 👿 helping Auchi get a visa isn’t illegal so Fitz won’t want that. 👿 getting his house bought would be, and he’d be a huge fish which is what Fitz wants. Putting 👿 with Auchi achieves the initial link from which a bribery scheme could originate with Rezko as the go-between. Remember 👿 ‘s house purchase followed a 3.5M dollar transfer and a second through tons of attys and surrogates is what got Rezko’s bond revoked in February. And just by the number of bond reduction motions, etc. filed, you can tell old Tony wants the hell out. He’s only used to the good life.

  175. moononpluto says:According to this online poll, every state, and i mean every state is saying that Obama is a fake Christian to the tune of 59% or more for the entire country
    ————————————————-
    It is obvously a reflection of my own ignorance and the fact that I was brainwashed by the King James version of the Bible, but for the life of me I just can’t seem to recall anything about a bad European Jesus and a good African Jesus. We were led to believe in a Trinity, not that. Jerimians daddy was a Luthern minister so where did all this come from? Personally I think Jerimiah may have hung out too long with Farrakan.

  176. Obama running new ad in PA telling parents to turn off the TV to help children learn. that’s right turn off the TV so your kids can not see his ads and twist your arms to vote for Obama

  177. Dear XYZ:

    You’ve probably heard about the latest dust-up in the Democratic race.

    A few days ago, Barack spoke about the frustrations that working people in this country are feeling and said what we all know is true: that many people are bitter and angry because they believe their government isn’t listening to them.

    You and I both know that the hope of changing that reality is what drives the unprecedented support for this campaign from ordinary people in every part of the country.

    But our opponents have been spinning the media and peddling fake outrage around the clock. John McCain’s campaign, which will continue the George Bush economic policies that have devastated the middle class, called Barack out of touch and elitist. And Hillary Clinton, who is the candidate who said lobbyists represent real people, didn’t just echo the Republican candidate’s talking points: she actually used the very same words to pile on with more attacks.

    These comments show just how out of touch Senator McCain and Senator Clinton are with the reality of what’s happening in this election.

    We’ve built the broadest campaign of ordinary people in the history of presidential politics — and more people across this country have voted for Barack Obama than either one of them.

    And we’ve done it the right way: our campaign is funded by everyday people giving $5 or more. That’s distinctly different from Senator McCain and Senator Clinton, who both rely on money from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs.

    There’s nothing elitist about a movement of more than a million people standing up for a different kind of politics.

    If you’re fed up with these kinds of tired attacks, you can do something about it right now. We’re setting a goal of 1.5 million people giving to this campaign by May 6th.

    Right now, one of those million people who have already given to our campaign is waiting to match your first donation. No matter what amount you choose to give, our system will match you with a supporter who has promised to match someone’s first donation today.

    You can see for yourself exactly what kind of movement this is. When you make your donation, you’ll see the name and town of the person just like you who matched your gift. You’ll also see a note from them with their story and why they gave, if they chose to write one.

    You’ll double the impact of your donation if you make a matching gift right now. Will you help fight back now?

    donate.barackobama.com/match

    Barack Obama’s own life and story are reflected in the character of this grassroots campaign. He was raised by a single mother with help from his grandparents. He has a family he loves, not long ago finished paying off his student loans, and he’s doing what he can to help change this country.

    That’s what he’s done for his entire career. After graduating, he became a community organizer, working with people in Chicago who — like many people across the country right now — felt left behind by their leaders.

    When you make a matching donation, you’ll be paired with someone with that same sense that it’s time for a government that is responsible to the people for a change.

    Someone is waiting to hear your story, and to share theirs with you. If you can support the campaign at this crucial moment, you’ll be able to share your story about why you’re committed to this campaign.

    And because this is a matching donation, your gift of $25 will be doubled by another supporter. You’ll have twice the impact and help reach our unprecedented 1.5 million-person goal. Make a matching donation now and be a part of history:

    donate.barackobama.com/match

    The attacks from the Clinton campaign — on Barack Obama himself, and on supporters like you — can be expected to increase as her chances of winning dwindle further.

    A few weeks ago, one of her top aides tried to diminish our success by referring to the places we’ve won as “boutique” states and to our supporters as the “latte-sipping crowd.”

    That means 30 states and territories — twice as many as Senator Clinton has won — qualify as “boutique.” And the nearly 15 million people who have voted for us (again, more than Senator Clinton) must drink a lot of latte.

    It’s clear that Senator Clinton will continue to say or do anything as her campaign gets more and more negative.

    But 1.5 million donors will be an astonishing and undeniable signal that it isn’t the elites fueling this movement — it’s the American people.

    That starts with you.

    Thank you,

    David

    David Plouffe
    Campaign Manager
    Obama for America

  178. HillaryforTexas Says:

    April 15th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
    wbboei, I have a female lawyer friend in Chicago, who has represented some “connected” people.

    She has told me categorically that based on things she knows, Obama is involved up to his neck with very very shady business in a lot of byzantine ways, but will not and cannot tell me any more than that due to client confidentiality.
    ________________________________________

    If that is true then . . . .

    Happy days are here again
    The skies above are clear again
    So lets sing a song of cheer again
    Happy days are here again

    (Harry Trumans favorite song next to the Missouri Waltz and mine too when you tell me that!)

  179. Ok, so I’m a bit vague on Esther (Hillary’s biblical hero in the Compassion Forum the other day) and did some googling-

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther

    Read up.

  180. Did you guys see this?

    I tried to copy and paste it here but it wont let me – so go to this website to see the letter from David Plouffe, the campaign manager, for Obama for America. It upsetted me and it should upset you! It goes to show the low-class the campaign is and how far they will go to twist and manipulate the people to say this is what Obama is trying to say versus what he actually say.

    Enough! Enough really! Stop it with the lies! Start being a man nad be honest.

    hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/obama_raising_c.html

  181. rjk1957 Says:

    April 15th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
    Obama running new ad in PA telling parents to turn off the TV to help children learn. that’s right turn off the TV so your kids can not see his ads and twist your arms to vote for Obama

    How truely bizarre this election has become. What an absurd farce.

  182. mj, we should! it just goes to show us EVERY reason to WORK HARD to help HRC become our 44th president!

  183. It might be that the US prosecutor is hoping that the defense calls Obama as a witness. Not to tear him apart on the stand, but to set up their next case on perjury and corruption charges against Obama with Rezko as their star witness.

  184. On a serious note, it is hard to imagine how Barack, Durbin or any other Chicago pol would not have some involvement in this because the problem is systemic and to get ahead one must play by the rules. That is not a defense so much as it is a warning of the dangers implicit in allowing this hyda headed monster to extend its influence nation-wide, and that is why the work Fitsgerald is doing now for the country is so important.

  185. mj

    I hadn’t seen that, wow obama camp must be short on money and from that “long winded” begging for money of a letter i doubt most who received it even read the damn thing 😀 LOL

    what was more interesting was the comments below it 😀

  186. mj, the Fowler stuff came from the NTY article.

    rjk, the 👿 dinner party question came from Rezko’s atty, not the AUSA.

    wbboei, I agree it’s systemic. That’s what has given Fitz his rep so far. Going after folks in that area. It’s sorta like shooting fish in a barrel in there are so many offenders, but harder because it is very much a group conspiracy there and like a Hydra, they can drop one head and keep going.

  187. wanna have some fun???? 😀

    this weeks caption contest…….see how creative you can be with this pic of obama 😀

    h t t p : / / politickermd.com/robtornoe/1751/week-s-cartoon-caption-contest

  188. Mj, it’s a 3 page NYT article. I have it saved at the office.

    djia, some posting advice: just remove the ht-p and /’s. Anything www will go up immediately.

  189. rjk, it’s more interesting it came from the defense counsel.

    Night all. Hubby wants to look at crap.

  190. okie

    I’ve never been able to post anything with just the www. either

    i must its frustrating posting links here LOL

  191. Barack X — The videos

    My brother John and I made 2 videos last night discussing “Bittergate” and how it’s not going to
    play well in Pennsylvania. Since we are both spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania in our youths and
    since I live there right now, we definitely know of what we speak. We also tied-in the Reverend
    Wright and William Ayers stuff, as well as the words of esteemed African-American Ph.D. Thomas
    Sowell who discusses the concept of Barack, himself, being a lie.

    We have named Barack “Barack X,” in honor of the late Malcolm X and Barack’s affinity for him, as
    well as Barack’s numerous radical associations. And to highlight this new name we have included
    some funny footage of the Saturday Night Live character (played by Chris Rock) “Nat X.”

    I should also mention that John is very conservative, so you can get a Republican perspective on
    Barack Obama and what we’ll be up against if Obama is named our nominee and the GOP is facing us
    down instead of other Dems who don’t want to hurt each others’ feelings too much.

    The videos are informative and entertaining. I’m on via speakerphone and John handles the
    hosting/on-camera duties. Check them out and have a laugh. Total running time is
    about 20 minutes, but it goes fast.

    Instead of linking to them individually I’ll just put the link to our site where we have them both
    posted:

    http://www.villarrealsports.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=383

    Thanks and have a great night.

    Paul F. Villarreal AKA “Universal” AKA “RokSki”

  192. No surprise there Amgal, he’s there next Zell Miller.

    Repubs always like to have one cross-over/traitor from the other party to try and legitimize their draconian policies.

    Lieberman’s a pig. They can have him.

  193. I am trying to understand the mindset of a voter whom, in the middle of two wars, a cratering economy, a health care crisis and a housing crisis, says yeah, I’m going to vote for the empty suit who tells me to read to my kids. Because we don’t need a President, we need a public service announcer.

  194. comment on TM tonight…….LOL!!!

    In response to Barack Obama’s comments criticizing John McCain today at the Associated Press’ annual meeting, McCain senior advisor Mark Salter responded:

    “It’s hard to keep a straight face when you’re accused of being out of touch by a guy who thinks the whole country is worried about the high price of arugula or that you hunt ducks with a six shooter.”

  195. You know what really gets me is you know there is video of BO at some of those crazy sermons just waiting for October.

  196. WOW!! watching the Philly news and Hillary is matching obama TV ad for TV ad. During this half hour on one station 3 Obama ads and 3 Hillary ads. I just hope she fall into a trap of spending all her funds available.

  197. The reading to your kids bit, is that part of the “Black Value System?”

    LOL, dija comment at 11:31 p.m.

  198. turn off our tvs…tell us what to do..he sure in the hell isnt home reading to his kids.. go back to indonesia..

  199. That’s right MJ. It was FOX that bought up those sermons on DVD;
    doubt they’re selling them anymore!

    (btw, that’s a question Hill should ask her opp. research team when this is over. Why wasn’t this all researched & in their possession?
    They didn’t know he had a raging bigot of a crazy man for a pastor?
    They could have blasted this guy out of the race before Iowa)

  200. “It’s hard to keep a straight face when you’re accused of being out of touch by a guy who thinks the whole country is worried about the high price of arugula or that you hunt ducks with a six shooter.”

    Ouch!

  201. Blue, they knew it all along. So did the media. They have run a very civil campaign, perhaps to her detriment, and expected the press to report it.

  202. Whose idea was it to have another debate. This time I thought it was Obama who challenged Hillary to the duel?

  203. mj,

    I don’t know. If that were true, a simple leak of footage showing BO sitting there as Rev. Wright is breathing fire would end the race.

    I doubt it – but will hold out some hope just in case 🙂

  204. Oh, sorry, you are right, Blue. I only meant everyone knew his Pastor was an extremist. I do think some right winger somewhere has the footage on BO “in the pews” as he likes to say.

  205. watching Michelle on Colbert and I was right last night when i said he would take it easy on her out of fear of being called a racist. Total fluff piece for Obama

  206. so, if it was a total fluff piece for Obama, what was the point of MO being on the show? Isn’t Colbert a comedy show? I have never watched it!

  207. There were precious few journalists/columnists I respected before this race began. There are really none left at all.

    “E.J.Dionne in TNR: “But here are the two remaining Democratic candidates, Obama by speaking carelessly and Clinton by piling on shamelessly, doing all they can to make it easy for Republicans to pretend one more time that they are the salt of the earth.”

  208. Speaking carelessly? These jackasses are such elitists they think it’s fine to think like that so long as you don’t say it publically.

  209. I left out the “you are so beautiful”

    I am surprised he did not kiss the ground she walked on. Hillary better cancel her appearance because he is going to make her the butt of all his jokes.

    Oh and Mrs Obama did say that after 8 years of Barack in the Oval Office the face of this country will be changed and that the working class has not had anyone in the white house fighting for them in many many years, as much as saying that the 90’s never happened.

  210. But 1.5 million donors will be an astonishing and undeniable signal that it isn’t the elites fueling this movement — it’s the American people.

    That starts with you.

    Thank you,

    David

    David Plouffe
    Campaign Manager
    Obama for America
    ———————————————–

    No need to thank me David. It is I that should be thanking you for clarifying something for me. Previously I had been under the mistaken impression that venture capitalists, Pritzker family, wall street law firms, george soros, the shadowy goose island group and other dubious fat cats from here and around the world were bankrolling you , and there have been reliable reports to that effect, but it is obvious to me after reading your fundraising letter that it is just a legion of ma and pa kettles out there that are filling your coffers that I was mistaken. By the way david, can you think of any particular reason why I should trust you.

  211. rjk: yeah, right. Like the Obamas have been fighting all these years, for the poor. The Clintons have done more for the poor, than the Obamas could ever think of doing.

  212. I will say that Hillary does have a quick wit and will come back at him, so maybe I am not giving her enough credit for knowing what she is doing.

  213. I can’t even watch MO on Colbert.

    here’s Roger Simon, Politico – HILLARY THE STRAIGHT SHOOTER:

    politico.com/news/stories/0408/9596.html

    (edited for good parts)

    Clinton blasted Obama for being “elitist and out of touch.”

    “I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Sen. Obama made about people in small-town America,” Clinton said.

    But Clinton’s statement was not as important as her downing that shot of whiskey.

    Presidential campaigning is about image making, and there is no better image than being a man (or woman) of the people.

    And why should he? Deep down, the public knows that virtually all the people who run for president are wealthy and live an elite lifestyle, no matter how they grew up.

    What is important is their image.

    Which is why the whiskey that Hillary threw back could be the Shot Heard Round the World if handled right.

    If I were her campaign manager, I would be making the ad already:

    Video: Barack Obama in a tuxedo at a fat-cat fundraiser.

    Audio: “Barack Obama drinks Chateau D’Yquem and eats artisanal cheeses.”

    Video: Hillary Clinton throws back a whiskey at Bronko’s Restaurant.

    Audio: “Hillary Clinton knows how to drink like a real American!”

    Video: Clinton slams her shot glass on the bar and wipes her mouth with the back of her hand.

    Audio: “I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this ad. I also approve Jell-O shots.”

    Video: Clinton grins and motions to the bartender for another.

    Audio: “Hillary Clinton. She drinks like you do.”

    Phony? Misleading? Unfair?

    Hey, this is politics. Those words don’t even exist.

  214. Roger Simon is NOT Hill’s campaign manager. He wants to throw that out there in the event the campaign has lost their minds, they’d do something like that and get pummeled for it for piling on.

    No, the voters already have that impression. Thanks anyway, Roger.

  215. And along those same lines, the last few days a lot was made of Hill’s having a shot (by the usual suspects), and I didn’t think much at the time except they’re beating the hell out of this wonderful woman yet again.

    Now I realize it is the CONTRAST BO’s worried about.
    Axelrod must be twirling the mustache off his ugly face.

    Thanks for crystalizing that one Roger, you deceitful dick.

  216. I heard that bartender was on a lot of radio and news shows. He totally disdains the elite media for trying to corrupt a perfectly normal moment. Love it.

  217. April 16, 2008, 12:00 am
    New Air Support for Clinton
    By Michael Luo

    The American Leadership Project, an outside group that is supportive of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, is planning to hit the airwaves in several television markets in Pennsylvania on Wednesday with a commercial praising her stances on health care.
    Representatives for the group indicated, however, that they were planning to spend only about $250,000 initially, a relatively small amount. Although the group has been actively soliciting individual donors, the money for the commercials comes mostly from two unions that have endorsed Mrs. Clinton, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees and the Machinists Union.
    As a “527,” one of the groups thus designated because of the part of the tax code they fall under, the American Leadership Project is barred from coordinating with the Clinton campaign and cannot explicitly call for Mrs. Clinton’s election.
    But with Senator Barack Obama spending more than twice as much on advertising in Pennsylvania so far, according to the latest figures from the Campaign Media Analysis Group, which tracks advertising spending, Mrs. Clinton could clearly use the help in getting her message out on the airwaves.

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/new-support-for-clinton/

  218. you know though – I think the image of her kicking back a shot is good. There’s a bit of a (planned perhaps) irony in there while he’s talking about people clinging to guns, and she’s taking a shot.

    No matter if the press is savaging her for doing it – it’s targeting the right kind of voters who want to see her as the opposite of an elitist.

  219. I just watched Hillary today speak to the National Society of Newspaper Editors on CSPAN.

    Hillary is absolutely brilliant! She gave an incredible speech laying out all of her broad policies and in the end took some very difficult questions and answered them in staggaring depth and with such thoughfulness.

    She is my hero! How could anyone vote against this patriot?

  220. Again, what totally pisses me off about the Obamas assualt on the 90’s is everyone knows BC did great things for the economy everywhere, though clearly pockets of individuals were hurt by expanded traded, BUT if you are at all policy savvy you know Bill Clinton focused on helping African Americans in the urbans more than any other demographic.

  221. lninla Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 12:36 am
    you know though – I think the image of her kicking back a shot is good. There’s a bit of a (planned perhaps) irony in there while he’s talking about people clinging to guns, and she’s taking a shot.

    No. Not planned. The barkeep simply offered the shot and she accepted. Then, she sipped it, which is custom in that area.

  222. Im so aggravated. What the hell is with all the “Hillary sees no post bitter bounce” bullsh*t? That stupid LA Times/Bloomberg poll comes out and the media decides to shove it down everyones throats, ignoring all the other polling out there. I don’t get it!!!

  223. Isn’t Roger Simon the guy with the anti-Hillary group CUNT? Way to go politico for allowing him to give Hillary advice. You’re hysterical.

  224. LJ,
    They want people to turn off from the controversy, lessen it anyway they can – AND give themselves an out to get away from it.

    A few more days of saturation coverage the way BO was floundering and polls would start showing a major dropoff and they’d have to start writing his obituary, which they don’t want to do.

  225. LJ,

    wait until polls taken Monday, tuesday and wednesday come out. Let BM think he has not hurt Obama, it will just make her big victory on Tuesday that much bigger.

  226. No gerond. it may be Roger Stone involved with them (run by david Bossie) but not Simon, to my knowledge.

    Unless he appeared in ‘Hill The Movie’, blockbuster that it was…

  227. One person asked about the explosion in the mosque in Iran last week that was speculated initially to be the Brits in a covert operation, but eventually it was reported that there were some stored munitions that blew up. The questioner asked her if, as president she would support using our soldiers in this type of “covert operation” if necessary. Hill used the opportunity to talk about her vote in declaring the Iranian Guard a terrorist organization and why that vote was important. She had such an incredible grasp of what is going on over there, I see why so many generals support her.

    The other two questions appeared to come from Obama sympathizers.

    One was about her promise to bring 200,000 jobs to New York, which she talked about the fact that she believed Al was going to get the nomination and that the enterprize zones and all the other economic growth initiatives were just starting to bear fruit when Dubya was sworn in (I know I was swearing, too!)

    The other question she took was about Florida and Michigan and why did she initially sign on to punish Michigan and Florida and now want the votes to count. She said that what she and everyone else signed was simply an agreement not to campaign there and that it was still being decided how the votes would be counted at that time. That the DNC had many options availble to them, and still do, to allow people to have a voice and that she believes it is a grave mistake to discount those voters.

    She was just amazing. I highly recommend trying to find it on CSPAN re-runs if you get it.

  228. Smart move on Hillary’s part to go on Philadelphia’s most listened to sports radio show.

    Posted on Tue, Apr. 15, 2008

    Hillary invites Eskin to White House
    By Peter Mucha

    Inquirer Staff Writer

    When a sports-talk host lands a presidential candidate as a guest – as Howard Eskin did late yesterday afternoon – interesting moments can arise.
    Witness the two recent exchanges between WIP’s Angelo Cataldi and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

    During the first one, the Illinois senator described his grandmother as a “typical white person,” a phrase that irritated some people, including WIP afternoon host Howard Eskin.

    The second time, Cataldi got Obama to say he’d rather be Dr. J in his prime than president.

    Yesterday, afternoon host Howard Eskin, known for being tough on sports decision-makers like Phils manager Charlie Manuel, lobbed softballs at Hillary Clinton.

    His first question: “Am I permitted to call you Hillary?”

    “Compared to some of the things that I’m called, Howard, this is a nice change,” she quipped.

    His last question: “Now that we’re friends, when you become president of the United States of America, can I get an invitation just to visit the White House?”

    “You bet,” she said, though not exactly agreeing to a date for dinner. “You know, we’re going to have times when we get a lot of radio commentators and guys with shows like yours to come and broadcast out of the White House. We’re definitely going to open the White House back up again. It’s been kind of closed down under President Bush.”

    In response to most questions, she delivered the expected answers, staying on message about bringing experience, working hard, caring about working people, and expressing optimism the country can get back on track.

    Eskin, an unabashed Clinton-backer, worked knocks against Obama into his question, mentioning the “typical white person” remark, Obama’s controversial former pastor, his alleged ties to indicted businessman Tony Resco, and the Illinois senator’s recent remark that small-town people “cling” to religion and guns because they’re “bitter” about their economic situations.

    Clinton said the people she’s talked with in Pennsylvania were offended by the religion and guns remark.

    “I don’t think that people in small towns cling to religion,” she said. “They embrace it. It’s a part of who they are.”

    Eskin got Clinton to chuckle as he mocked Obama for comparing her to legendary cowgirl Annie Oakley. “He’s trying to reach out to young people and they don’t even know who Annie Oakley is,” he said.

    Clinton generally focused on her strengths more than any flaws her opponent might have, though she did say John McCain, the likely Republican nominee, has admitted being no economics expert.

    Eskin did work in a little sports, asking if it’s tough to be a politician in New York, which has the Giants and the Jets, the Yankees and the Mets.

    She said started rooting for the Yankees as young girl in Chicago because she liked Mickey Mantle, and recalls her father giving her batting lessons on the backyard.

    As for the guy who buried a Red Sox jersey at the new Yankee Stadium, “when I read that, I burst out laughing,” she said. “That was some brave construction worker.”

    She also told him not to forget New York also has the Buffalo Bills.

    Her parents were her role models, and “I really admire Eleanor Roosevelt,” she said.

    “I wish you the best of luck, and don’t back down!” was a closing Eskin comment. “DO NOT BACK DOWN!”

    “I’m not going to,” she said. “I’m a fighter. That’s the way I was raised. This country’s worth fighting for, Howard.”

    “All right, say hello to Bill for me, too, would you please?”

    “I will. You got it.”

    http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/news_breaking/20080415_Hillary_invites_Eskin_to_White_House.html

  229. Talking about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Hillary needs to hit him hard on his double talk regarding the resolution the Senate passed.

  230. Bloomberg has made it abundantly clear he is for Obama. His company’s poll is about as reliable as if Oprah herself had done one. He’s trying to influence public opinion.

    By the way, Bloomberg is gay. Gay. Gay. Gay. I am too, btw, but you must inflict damage to your enemies with every sword they provide.

  231. Neither Roger Stone nor Roger Simon appear anywhere in the credits of
    ‘Hill The Movie’, to be fair to both gentlemen.

  232. This is outrageous, should never be allowed to happen.
    It’s vital public affairs programming, and should clearly be in the public domain. The beancounters know no end;

    “So, That’s 15 Seconds Each
    By The New York Times

    Our sib-blog, TV Decoder, reports:
    Maybe Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton can sum up their policy differences in 30 seconds or less on Wednesday night.
    They will have to if they are going to get their points across well on networks other than ABC, which is sponsoring the hotly anticipated Democratic debate that evening. According to the usage guidelines circulated by ABC, other news organizations are only allowed to excerpt half a minute from the broadcast.
    That means choosing only one 30-second clip to use on television and the Web between 11 p.m. Wednesday and 5 a.m. Thursday.

  233. Democrat chair picks sides in PA
    by Josh Drobnyk

    Pennsylvania Democratic Party Chairman T.J. Rooney is no stranger to aggressive campaign tactics — it’s practically his job. But his jabs are usually aimed at Republicans, not fellow Democrats, as has been the case during the presidential primary.

    Rooney has been one of Hillary Clinton’s most aggressive surrogates in Pennsylvania, taking to television airwaves and conference calls with reporters to play up the New York senator and knock down Barack Obama.

    “The senator hasn’t been up front and open and honest with the people of Pennsylvania with respect to this ad,” Rooney said last week in a conference call to hammer one of Obama’s TV commercials, where the Illinois senator touts not taking money from the oil industry.

    Rooney’s involvement in the Clinton campaign calls into question whether the former state representative from Bethlehem has crossed a line established in some other primary states. In New Hampshire, for instance, it’s unconstitutional for a party leader to endorse in the primary.

    “To have the Democratic party chair say negative things is a little bit striking to me,” said Christopher Borick, a political science professor at Muhlenberg College in Allentown. “It would be the equivalent of (Democratic National Committee Chairman) Howard Dean right now jumping into the mix and not only endorsing one of them but knocking down the tactics of the opponent. It really is a strange situation.”

    Some see it differently.

    “I don’t see any type of conflict there, or any problem,” said Larry Ceisler, a Democratic consultant in Philadelphia who’s not affiliated with either candidate. “For the most part, the entire power structure of the state is for Clinton — so why should T.J. be any different?”

    He added of the Dean comparison: “There is a big difference between the DNC and the Democratic State Committee.”

    Rooney, who’s led the party since 2003, came out for Clinton in January after Gov. Ed Rendell endorsed Clinton and urged him to do the same. He said he sees no conflict of interest in campaigning on Clinton’s behalf.

    “I like to be in the fray and there is no reason that I can’t be,” Rooney said in an interview. “I don’t for a second think that my endorsement means a whole heck of a lot to anybody. I enjoy expressing my opinion and working hard on behalf of a candidate I believe in.”

    But Bill Green, a political consultant in Pittsburgh, said the fact that Pennsylvania U.S. Sen. Bob Casey Jr. is supporting Obama is even more reason for the state’s party chairman to stay neutral. “That is the party chair’s role, to be neutral in these cases,” he said. “You would expect that here.”

    Rooney said he harbors no resentment toward Obama and would be “150 percent” behind the Illinois senator should he win the Democratic nomination.

    “I haven’t called anybody any names. I’ve tried to keep everything in check,” Rooney said. “Because I respect the man and I realize he’s the frontrunner. I don’t want to do anything to personally alienate Sen. Obama or any of his supporters. But by the same token if and when I am asked to point out what I view to be a legitimate thing or issue, I am happy to do that.”

    Twice the Clinton campaign has put Rooney on conference calls with reporters to tackle Obama. In late March, he accused the Obama campaign of trying to disenfranchise voters because some supporters — Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont in particular — were calling for Clinton to withdraw from the race.

    Last Wednesday, he hammered Obama for running an ad in Pennsylvania where the senator said he doesn’t take money from oil companies.

    “It’s illegal to take money from oil companies,” Rooney said in the call. “What he doesn’t tell you is when he had a chance to stand up to these oil companies that he refers to in the ad, he chose not to join with Sen. Clinton but rather to side with Dick Cheney. … It seems to me yet another example of where Sen. Obama’s words don’t match his actions.”

    Companies cannot directly contribute money to candidates. But they can give through political action committees that they set up. Obama refuses money from those committees, but accepts money from employees of oil companies.

    Rooney’s mention of Cheney is a reference to Obama’s support for a 2005 energy bill endorsed by the Bush administration. Obama said he backed the bill because it raised taxes on oil companies and upped investments in alternative energy sources.

    Dick Harpootlian, a former chairman of South Carolina’s Democratic Party and an Obama supporter, said Rooney’s involvement in the race is inappropriate. He said he never endorsed before the South Carolina primary when he led the party because he “felt the candidates ought to get the feeling that the party mechanism is neutral.”

    “It is important that the party chair stay out of it,” Harpootlian said. “It is not fair. And I think the people of Pennsylvania are going to ask why is the party apparatus out for one candidate?”
    In New Hampshire, there’s a provision in the constitution barring party chairs to endorse before the primary.

    Kathy Sullivan, who headed the state’s Democratic Committee until last year and is backing Clinton, said she thinks it’s a good idea given the attention geared toward the state’s first-in-the-nation primary.

    “It is up to each state and in New Hampshire it is just how we do it,” she said.

    She said she didn’t think Rooney was burning bridges with the Obama campaign by getting involved in the race.

    “People get over it,” she said. “They have to.”
    weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/democrat_chair_picks_sides_in.html

  234. Pittsburgh tribune-Review editorial

    Obama’s bitter medicine

    Barack Obama’s “bitter” pill is going to be tough to swallow — much more so for his core constituents than for the glib, polished presidential aspirant.
    But strip away Mr. Obama’s image and eloquence — which has seemingly mesmerized the media — and what’s revealed is the arrogance of an unapologetic, full-bore liberal.

    Oh, he seemed to be duly concerned and compassionate about residents while campaigning in Pennsylvania. Yet this is what the front-runner for the Democrats’ nomination had to say in reference to Pennsylvanians at a San Francisco fundraiser:

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    Worse than his words were Obama’s actions, first in defending his comments — “what everybody knows is true” — and then regretting if his word choice had offended anyone.
    If Hillary Clinton doesn’t knock this hanging curve ball out of the park, she may as well retire her bat.

    What Obama dished out was a cold, stinging slap, and not just to Pennsylvanians but to Americans across the country. Citizens of this republic don’t “cling” to guns or to God out of any bitterness but with firm conviction in their rights as spelled out in the U.S. Constitution.

    And they care more about those rights, Senator, than about your presumptuous pander, which now is plain for all to see.

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/archive/s_562339.html

    the other Pittsbutgh newspaper whose name I will not mention is endorsing Bambi in the morning edition.

  235. “To have the Democratic party chair say negative things is a little bit striking to me,” said Christopher Borick, a political science professor at Muhlenberg College in Allentown. “It would be the equivalent of (Democratic National Committee Chairman) Howard Dean right now jumping into the mix and not only endorsing one of them but knocking down the tactics of the opponent. It really is a strange situation.”

    Bwahahahahaha

  236. Oh of course, they endorse BO. I swear to God I am totally at a loss for what has happened to the media.

  237. hi hillfans. i will be working the eve shift during the debate but hopefully i can catch some snippets of it.

  238. “It is important that the party chair stay out of it,” Harpootlian said. “It is not fair. And I think the people of Pennsylvania are going to ask why is the party apparatus out for one candidate?”

    Um…There are no words, really…

  239. Shoot, Newt Gengrich sees it. He said as much today on Fox. That a lot of dems had concerns about Hillary’s electablity and that they were looking for an alternative to run against her.

  240. Idiots. Stupid fools. Women. Hill is a shoe in for the GE for that reason alone. Never mind building a base for the past 20 years, something completely foregin in american politics.

  241. Well, mj, at least he didn’t add, ‘I’ve already been on the phone to Howard, and he assured me if the votes don’t go our way PA will be disenfrachised as well….’ lol

  242. That’s why the only one with a chance in hell of winning the primary is Obama. They needed someone who could take her AA base, and BO was the only pigeon for it. So dumb. A Party of fools.

  243. I love this line from the article about Obama from the washington post,”

    Democrats often fall in love during a first date. They are then surprised when all the relatives don’t think he’s splendid.”

  244. realclear poltics average got hillary ahead in pa by 8.6 points. hopefully it will be 10-points or more by tuesday.

  245. Barack Obama reportedly got a much-needed boost from one of the last uncommitted Democratic super delegates Sunday, following two days of pointed attacks from his competitors.

    Democratic National Committee member Nancy Larson told the Associated Press Sunday that she has decided to throw her support behind Obama.

    Larson says Obama will bring new people into the political process and has the best chance of beating presumptive Republican nominee John McCain for the White House.

    With the Keystone State’s primary a little more than a week away, rival Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton spent Sunday afternoon knocking on doors in her father’s childhood hometown of Scranton. Her staff is hoping the day will help emphasize her middle-class roots.

    Clinton continues to cast Obama as an elitist following his comments that working-class voters are “bitter” about economic conditions. Obama has since apologized for his choice of words.

    McCain also criticized Obama for the remarks. The Arizona senator will be campaigning in Pittsburgh Monday.
    http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=80471
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    Please, when has the DNC been neutral?

  246. I love this quote by Obabbler:

    On Tuesday, as Mr. Obama campaigned about 30 miles south of Pittsburgh in Washington, Pa., he said he was “amused about this notion as an elitist.”

  247. 24 hotspots in and around Denver have been selected by the DNC to host the Sunday night parties for the delegates at the August Convention.

    Illinois’s delegates will hold a party at the Denver Art Museum. New York’s delegates get the Pinnacle Club at the Downtown Grand Hyatt. Florida and Michigan get zip — because their delegates have been stripped as a penalty for holding their primaries early,

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/16/05915/5281

  248. THIS MAN IS GEORGE LEFTY BUSH! I REALLY HATE THIS MAN!

    “So when somebody makes that argument, particularly given that I spent my entire life working with workers, low-income communities to try to make people’s lives a little bit better, then that’s when you know we’re in political silly season,” he told a veterans forum in Washington, Pa.

  249. Does The DNC’s Complain Against McCain Have Merit?
    14 Apr 2008 05:10 pm

    The Democratic National Committee wants a federal judge to force the dormant Federal Election Commission to investigate John McCain’s decision to withdraw from the public financing system in midseason.

    They filed suit in DC federal court today alleging that McCain used his earlier privileged status inside the system to secure a loan and to secure ballot access in the states. By opting out without the FEC’s approval, the DNC alleges that McCain “unilaterally” and unlawfully abrogated the agreement.

    “Nonsense,” replies the McCain campaign.

    Who’s right?

    There’s no precedent for the DNC’s actions. The statute permits such suits after 120 days of inaction. There’s been about 50. If for some reason a court decides that the DNC’s complaint has merit, they’ll probably ask the FEC to explain what is has done to resolve the matter. They’ll probably do this behind closed doors.

    Interestingly, the DNC is borrowing a page from the Republican National Committee, which, in 2004, tried to get a federal judge to force the FEC to declare that 527s were illegal because the FEC was taking too much darned time in doing so. The court ruled that the FEC’s processes were its processes and it was up to Congress to change the law if it was unhappy with the FEC’s pace.

    Bottom line: there’s no reason for McCain’s campaign to be worried about any legal or financial ramifications of this suit or any others. There may well be, at time unknown in the future, some political questions for them to answer.

    Why did the DNC file now? They want the court to determine that the FEC is unable to take action and therefore give them permission to sue the McCain campaign directly.

    marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/04/does_the_dncs_complain_against.php
    ****************************************************
    This sound like something that Obama’s people on the DNC thought was a good idea.

    Wow, those brainiacs at the DNC sure knows how to make the GOP come together faster with these Chicago tricks starting to come out…why do I think this is going to rile up the GOP base?

  250. What should hillary talk about at the debate, I hope she brings up his lobbyist connections and how he has never shown his taxes for three yrs in the senate, I can’t believe that people are calling her racist for attacking him on Penn! I really hope she is very strong tomorrow and holds her ground because if she can attack and not hold back man it’s on! She always looks like she is holding back, this time she should say to america wake the fuck up and slap yourself!

  251. She needs to bring up his MISSING RECORDS FROM HIS ILLINOIS SENATE YEARS.

    He claims no records were kept. Bullshit. You don’t run an office with no calendars, no daytimers, no appt books, nothing.

  252. Rezko and pals are in those fucking records, with meetings, dinners, lunches, etc. That’s why they “poof” disappeared.

    Bank on it.

  253. mj: based on the comments of the owner Richard Mellon Scaife a couple weeks ago and the editorial today about Hillary hitting a home run off the high hanging curve ball thrown by Obama I have got to believe the Pittsburg Tribune will come through and endorse Hillary at the most opportune time hopefully on Sunday and Monday at the latest. The other paper endorsed Obama and is probably owned by some conglomerated which is tied in somehow to elite media.

  254. EARL OFARI HUTCHINSON: Hang in There Tavis Smiley
    Don’t let the Black Obama Thought Police run you out
    (April 15, 2008)Email to a friend | Print Friendly

    But putting the suddenly hate Smiley tide aside for a moment. There are two shames and tragedies here. The first is that if an African-American, and it makes no different whether it’s a Smiley, or anyone else, even dares breathe a kind word about Hillary Clinton they will be run out of Dodge on a rail. Heaven forbid if they declare that they will vote for Clinton. No matter how many reasoned arguments they give—her experience, grasp of the issues, programs, and positions, staunch history in support of civil rights, women’s rights, and social justice issues and Obama’s paper thin if not outright dubious record on all of the aforementioned. Then remind the Obama chorus that the last time they looked the strength of democracy and the first amendment is the right to back a candidate of their choice and not be subjected to a verbal public lynching for making their choice.

    The second shame and disgrace is that those blacks that exercise their democratic right to pick the candidate they think will do the best job and not blindly back a candidate based solely because he’s black are considered race traitors. This is almost a text book variation on the old Orwellian Animal Farm saga of when the formerly oppressed flip the power table and suddenly become the new masters. They think, act and behave like the bunch that they kicked out of power. They are just as oppressive, stifling and thick headed toward any views and opinions that don’t conform to theirs.

    more
    http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur42638.cfm

  255. I just do not get it I guess, new ABC polling shows Hillary as the stronger leader, has the most experience and yet 62% of those polled say Obama has the best chance to win in November. I did see one very good thing in the poll, when asked what should Superdeleagtes use when deciding which way to vote at the convention 46% said the popular vote and only 13% said most delegates won.
    ————————————————-
    that is progress . . . anyone who insists on using the delegate count as the criterion puts themselves in the box nobody in their right mind wants to be in–defending an indefensible position. Where caususes are concerned the exceptions swallow the rule.

  256. OUR OPINION: In politics, patronizing doesn’t pay
    Tom Dennis Grand Forks Herald
    Published Wednesday, April 16, 2008
    Why don’t they know what’s good for them?

    The Left has asked that question about American workers for a century, and it’s telling that Barack Obama is trying to answer it today.

    Obama’s answer holds that workers are distracted from knowing their own economic self-interest. Furthermore, the distractions often take the form of religion, firearms and prejudice. That’s the theme of his now-famous statement in San Francisco, in which he declared that small-town workers “get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    Presumably, if all of those voters knew the true nature of their oppression, they’d have risen up long ago and elected leaders committed to changing America’s economic dynamics.

    Or would they?
    continue

    http://www.grandforksherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=73725&section=opinion

  257. HillaryforTexas Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 2:28 am
    Rezko and pals are in those fucking records, with meetings, dinners, lunches, etc. That’s why they “poof” disappeared.

    Bank on it.
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    Agreed–Rezko=the gift that keeps giving

  258. Now we just have to make sure we win the popular vote, we can not count on him making another mistake. Although that would be nice……

  259. Hi Wbboei!

    I got the Bots over at MyDD all riled up with my latest blog. They were telling admin to rip it off the web! Man, they really have taken over at MyDD, it sucks.

    politwix.com

  260. What the media will do is take one poll that shows the obama higher on the same day were the same state shows a different poll with her beating him. Averages everyone averages they say he is beating her in Indiana that is not true she is beating him by 4.6 points AVERAGE! Now if he was beating her in average were screwed! That is only happening in carolina!

  261. Barack and Michelle have made an unequivocal commitment to the poor both here and around the world. The gist of that commitment is no matter the obstacle, they will move heaven and earth if neceesary to not to be poor themeselves. That way they can be fine role models to the strarving masses and Michelle can go up on the guilded balcony in a sequin studded gown with a gold diamond tiara and scream let them eat cake, for finally I am proud of my country.

    If they could see me now
    That little gang of mine
    Eating fancy chow and
    Drinking fancy wine
    I’d like those stumble to see for a fact
    The kind of uptown first rate chumps we attract
    All I can say is wowie look at where I am
    Tonight I landed pow into a pot of jam
    What a set up holy cow theyd never believe it
    If my friends could see me now

    (with endless apologies to Gwen Verdon)

  262. Did anyone here chris mathews tell dan abrams that obama was going to get hurt with what he said and Hillary will win in double digits? What a site to see!

  263. HillBillyLover Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 2:47 am
    Hi Wbboei!

    I got the Bots over at MyDD all riled up with my latest blog. They were telling admin to rip it off the web! Man, they really have taken over at MyDD, it sucks.

    politwix.com
    ———————————————–
    Hibillylover: judging from the reaction, i.e. the obamaniacs frothing at the mouth and rolling on the floor and demanding expulsion– the image of it makes a tingle go down my leg to think you got the goat of those ignorant ignoramuses–thats talent galore thats entertainment thats thats thats grand. I’m gonna go fetch something I posted at TM tonight. I will post it downthread.

  264. From AB/WaPo Poll: Only 13 percent of Democrats say superdelegates should support whoever’s won the most regular delegates in primaries and caucuses – a count in which Obama’s ahead, and seemingly likely to stay so.
    Instead a plurality, 46 percent, say superdelegates should support the candidate who’s won the most popular votes, a tally in which Clinton still has hopes. And 37 percent say superdelegates should go with their own sense of which candidate they think is best.

    *** By this rationale, a whopping 83% say if you win the popular vote it doesn’t matter how many delegates you have, as long as you can’t hit the magic number.
    Its all about FL & MI; Fl & MI; FL & MI.

    Is anyone ever going to ask Obama why it’s fair that of the 5 states cited by the DNC for violations, only FL & MI have been penalized?

    Oh, that’s right, he was following ‘the rules’ set up by his friends.

    But why did he take his name off the ballot in MI?
    (he knew he would lose and was playing politics!)

    Why did his supporters fund an effort in MI to vote ‘uncommitted’?

    This is the election right here, these questions…….

  265. winhillary,

    Check this;
    “Did anyone here chris mathews tell dan abrams that obama was going to get hurt with what he said and Hillary will win in double digits?
    What a site to see!”

    That’s beyond strange. Matthews saying anything Hill or her supporters would want to hear is 180 degrees from what he’s done in his broadcasting career. Why would he?
    With Matthews deking towards a U.S. Senate run (either cause he actually wants it, or as leverage against NBC suits looking to chisel his price down with his contract up for renewal, as speculated in the NYT article) it is possible he’s seeking favors from Pennsylvania bigwigs, like Gov. Ed Rendell to help with such a run.
    Numerous times in the NYT story he directs the interviewer to “talk to Eddie Rendell” about him for background.

    That’s a long way to go to try and guess what that nimrod is thinking, but feasible I guess. Maybe. Maybe not.

  266. more rebuttal to plouffes convient lie that the Obama campaign aint elitist but it really about the American People who are struggling to make ends meet-yea sure

    BO’s BUNDLER MINIMUM PLEDGE LOCATION FIRM
    Scott Harris $200,000 DC Harris, Wiltshire and Grannis
    Allan J. Katz $200,000 FL Akerman Senterfitt
    Michael Lawson $200,000 CA Skadden, Arps
    John Levi $200,000 IL Sidley Austin
    Karol Mason $200,000 GA Alston & Bird
    Thomas J. Perrelli $200,000 VA Jenner & Block
    Thomas A. Reed $200,000 VA Kirkpatrick &Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis
    Christina Tchen $200,000 IL Skadden, Arps
    Tony West $200,000 CA Morrison & Foerster
    Mark L. Alderman $100,000 PA Wolf, Block, Schorr and Solis-Cohen
    Timothy M. Broas $100,000 MD Winston & Strawn
    Peter Bynoe $100,000 IL DLA Piper
    Gregory B. Craig $100,000 DC Williams & Connolly
    Norman Eisen $100,000 DC Zuckerman Spaeder
    Nicole Lamb-Hale $100,000 MI Foley & Lardner
    Andrew Schapiro $100,000 NY Mayer Brown
    Charles C. Adams Jr. $50,000 Switzerland Hogan & Hartson
    David Burd $50,000 DC Arnold & Porter
    Tom Cole $50,000 IL Sidley Austin
    Michael H. Dardzinski $50,000 China Reed Smith
    Howard W. Gutman $50,000 MD Williams & Connolly
    Jeff Horwitz $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
    David C. Jacobson $50,000 IL Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal
    Hrishi Karthikeyan $50,000 DC Covington & Burling
    Ronald Kirk $50,000 TX Vinson & Elkins
    William T. Lake $50,000 DC WilmerHale
    Edward Lazarus $50,000 CA Akin Gump
    Jack Levin $50,000 IL Kirkland & Ellis
    Kenneth G. Lore $50,000 DC Bingham McCutchen
    Charles B. Ortner $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
    Susan Pravda $50,000 MA Foley & Lardner
    Paul N. Roth $50,000 NY Schulte Roth & Zabel
    John Schmidt $50,000 IL Mayer Brown
    Robert M. Sussman* $50,000 DC Latham & Watkins
    Kathryn Thomson $50,000 VA Sidley Austin
    Barry B. White $50,000 MA Foley Hoag
    Steven M. Zager $50,000 TX Akin Gump
    Robert S. Litt n/a MD Arnold & Porter

  267. I think the big topics in the debate tomorrow should be MI and FL, Rezko, Missing tax returns, Missing senate records, Obama’s position on guns and his hand written notes on the questionairre.

  268. Not to mention, Matthews “telling Abrams that Obama was going to get hurt with what he said” would be broadcasting that Barack Obama
    made a mistake on NBC’s airwaves, TOTALLY against the rules, and particularly out of character for Mr. “He gives me chills up my leg.”

  269. Taylor publised the email below and my comment below

    Compare: what this traitor says:

    In your heart, you know this contest is over, and the comments of most of your readers is just getting into the dense forest of absurd denial. You have to. I have to believe that. But please, scratch that itch. I promise I won’t say boo. Just between us. Come on. Tell you what, I’ll make it easy. If you don’t respond, I’ll take that as a no. I’ll catch the wink-wink meaning of your silence, and sleep well in the knowledge that while you may publish the nonsense, you don’t buy it. Our secret. Thanks.” – TA

    To What another traitor was saying 65 years ago-same theme, same words, same cadences:

    Joe . . .you can’t win Joe. You know that don’t you. So why are you here Joe? Your wife is waiting for you Joe. Why do you continue this war of imperialistic agression Joe? You will die in this jungle and no one will know. Go home Joe before it is too late. . .you cannot win . . .

    http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/rose/rose.htm

  270. wbboei – you beat me to it. was going to post that list of bundlers, so instead, I’ll post this transcripts from Campbell Brown where Rick Wilson speaks the truth of Obama’s dirty campaign, and then, of course, gets cut off (TM poster had it):

    CNN ELECTION CENTER
    Aired April 15, 2008 – 20:00 ET

    TRANSCRIPT- CAMPBELL BROWN, CNN ANCHOR
    RICK WILSON, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST
    STEVE MCMAHON, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST

    BROWN: All right, Steve, what does he need to do to make sure voters don’t hear these words “clinging to guns and religion” anymore? Which surrogate supporters does he have to dispatch to make the sale? Who are they talking to and what are they saying?

    MCMAHON: Well, he has to reframe the issue, and I think he’s done that pretty effectively with this ad, basically saying that voters are rejecting negative campaigning, which, by the way, 70 percent of voters don’t like negative campaigning even though it does work.

    WILSON: They don’t like it, but it works, Steve.

    MCMAHON: Of course, it works. That’s why people do it. But nevertheless, he’s trying to align himself with something that people want, and it’s an aspiration that they want that they don’t always get. And it’s division and distraction, which is what he said in the ad. And he’s trying to make this the same old Washington politics or a verbal gaffe is used to divide and distract from the real issues of concern to Pennsylvania voters.

    Now, whether or not it will work remains to be seen. I do think Rick’s right about the trailing indicator that we’ll see in the polling. But this is the smartest thing he can do right now because he has to reframe or recast this thing.

    BROWN: Rick?

    WILSON: You know, the absurdity of this is that Barack Obama’s whole campaign has been predicated on every slip that Hillary Clinton has made, Barack and his friends in the media have jumped on her like crazy people. And he runs the same game. He’s just trying to frame it as Steve said, in a way that says, oh, I’m the candidate of the new, softer, kinder, you know, post-modern campaigning.

    And the fact of the matter is, the guy is running just as vicious a campaign as she is. He’s just very unhappy that he’s been caught short. There’s a pattern emerging about this guy, from his association with Reverend Wright, who is, you know — BROWN: All right. OK.

  271. carbynew – you may not be up anymore…but thanks for the Earl Ofari Hutchinson article – I have to say this, not being African American, but I think the world is upside down, and if you’re AA and in that community, it must be 10x more surreal.

    you and i should go see him in Los Angeles sometime.

  272. it’s late: I will post a long article: usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obamainside_N.htm

    Obama’s claim of independence questioned

    WASHINGTON — The screen fills with grainy footage of sprawling 1970s gas lines.

    “Nothing’s changed,” Sen. Barack Obama says into the camera, “except now Exxon’s making $40 billion a year, and we’re paying $3.50 for gas. … I don’t take money from oil companies or Washington lobbyists, and I won’t let them block change anymore.”

    Obama’s ad, which has been airing in Pennsylvania as the April 22 primary approaches, is technically true but misleading, as non-partisan FactCheck.org and Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign have been quick to point out.

    It’s accurate that Obama doesn’t take money from oil companies; neither do his opponents, because corporate contributions are illegal. But Obama, like Clinton and John McCain, has accepted donations from oil and gas company employees — $222,309 in Obama’s case from donors from Exxon, Shell, Chevron and others, according to campaign-finance data. Two oil company CEOs have pledged to raise at least $50,000 each as part of Obama’s fundraising team.

    The point, Obama spokesman Bill Burton said later in a statement, was that Obama doesn’t accept money from oil industry lobbyists or their political action committees (PACs), while his opponents have no such policy.
    FIND MORE STORIES IN: Washington | New York | Boston | Senate | Hillary Rodham Clinton | Google | John McCain | CEOs | University of Pennsylvania | Obama | Goldman Sachs | Citigroup | Center for Responsive Politics | Sarah | Bill Burton | Chevron | St. Petersburg Times | PACs | Exxon | Campaign Finance Institute | Tommy Vietor | Shell Oil | Greenberg Traurig | Rosenthal | Bryan Cave | FactCheck.org | Nath

    “The Obama campaign is trying to create a distinction without very much of a practical difference,” said a statement on the website of FactCheck.org, an affiliate of the University of Pennsylvania. “We’re not sure how a $5,000 contribution from, say, Chevron’s PAC would have more influence on a candidate than, for example, the $9,500 Obama has received from Chevron employees.”

    $193 million — and counting

    The episode underscores the pitfalls confronting a candidate who rails against special interests while raising $193 million and counting — the most of any presidential campaign. Obama’s fundraising tests the limits of his claim that he is independent of Washington’s influence industry because he doesn’t take money from federal lobbyists and PACs.

    Other examples that strain against that claim:

    •Obama holds fundraisers at law firms that lobby in Washington. Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor confirmed the campaign held five fundraisers at New York and Boston offices of three firms that lobby, including Greenberg Traurig, whose lobbying clients include gambling and handgun interests.

    Obama counts lobbyists among his informal advisers, including Broderick Johnson, who heads the Washington lobbying practice of Bryan Cave, which represents Shell Oil, records show. Nine campaign staffers have been lobbyists, public records show. Johnson did not respond to requests for comment.

    •Obama accepts money from spouses of federal lobbyists. In December, the campaign returned a $250 contribution from lobbyist Thomas Jensen of Sonnenschein, Nath & Rosenthal, but a few days later, it cashed a $500 check from his wife, Sarah, records show. Jensen said his wife had “personally chosen” to contribute to Obama.

    •Obama accepts contributions and fundraising help from state lobbyists. Florida lobbyist Russell Klenet hosted a fundraiser for Obama Aug. 25, according to the St. Petersburg Times. Two months before, Klenet had withdrawn as a lobbyist in Washington for a kidney dialysis company that relies heavily on federal revenue, Senate records show. Klenet did not return phone calls.

    •Obama is raising more than his opponents from executives of some of the corporate interests he criticizes. Obama has received more money from people who work at pharmaceutical and health product companies, according to the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics. He’s taken in $528,765 through February, compared with $506,001 for Clinton and $139,400 for McCain, despite saying last July that “I don’t take pharma money.”

    Vietor declined to answer questions about lobbyists’ role in the campaign and the candidate’s decision to accept contributions from lobbyists’ spouses and partners. He called Obama’s policy an imperfect but important symbolic step. Vietor said Obama “has long believed that lobbyists exert far too much influence over the national agenda.”

    Obama attracts small donors

    Obama has called his refusal to accept PAC and federal lobbyist money “a multimillion-dollar” sacrifice, but his opponents’ numbers suggest otherwise. Clinton has raised about $2 million from lobbyists and PACs while McCain has taken in about $1.2 million, according to the center.

    Obama points to his unprecedented success in raising small sums from tens of thousands of regular citizens. As of Feb. 29, he had raised 41% of his money in increments of $200 or less, compared with 26% for Clinton and 13% for McCain, according to an analysis by the non-partisan Campaign Finance Institute.

    Yet Obama’s 20 largest sources of money, grouped by employers, are executives from major corporations and law firms with a Washington lobbying presence — including Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Google, according to the center. Clinton’s and McCain’s top donors include executives from some of the same companies, such as Goldman Sachs and Citigroup.

    Contributing: Brian Kalish

  273. Blue Democrat Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 3:37 am
    winhillary,

    ——————————————————————-
    Seems like tweetie made a prior run for elective office in Philadelphia and his efforts were not crowned with conspicupoous success but I suppose it gets in the blood and past the prozac. If he is serious I think I will apply for the job of chauffeur, and if selected I will take him on a site seeing tour of the meadowlands. Seriously, I think he is being upstaged by olberman in the role of world biggest asshole. If is serious he has got alot of fencemending to do between now and whenever. I hope the press savages hiim if he runs.

  274. Well something fishy is going on and it’s not Obamas hygiene! The look on Mathews face and abrams is priceless, that would make a great credit card commercial! At the end mathews face when hillary wins the election pricless lol!
    Lets make one!

    Rezkos house …..million
    how many times he says uh 1000
    the lies he said about everything 65
    the years he has know wright 20yrs
    the look on mathews face when hillary wins the election…… pricless!

  275. Ininla great posting: I especially like the part where the democratic strategist tells bubbles that Barack has gotten past the bitters remark by taking the whole discussion to a higher plain, deploring negative campaigning and that is what is driving the narrative now. Shit man its positively Platonic.

    The rain in spain falls mainly on the plain. This is why we lose elections. We listen to idiots like this. It reminds me of something Edmund Burke said about that business in France when they stormed the Bastille: The French have become so obsessed with the rights of man that they have totally forgotten his nature.

    I love the way the Repo demolishes the argument while bubbles tries to rush to a commercial, fade to black, kill the volume for godssake someone do something. Sorry bubbles.

    WILSON: You know, the absurdity of this is that Barack Obama’s whole campaign has been predicated on every slip that Hillary Clinton has made, Barack and his friends in the media have jumped on her like crazy people. And he runs the same game. He’s just trying to frame it as
    Steve said, in a way that says, oh, I’m the candidate of the new, softer, kinder, you know, post-modern campaigning.

    And the fact of the matter is, the guy is running just as vicious a campaign as she is. He’s just very unhappy that he’s been caught short. There’s a pattern emerging about this guy, from his association with Reverend Wright, who is, you know — BROWN: All right. OK.

  276. wbboei Says:
    “more rebuttal to plouffes convient lie that the Obama campaign aint elitist but it really about the American People who are struggling to make ends meet-yea sure”

    For those who may not be all that familiar with the list provided in his/her post, these are some of the top US law firms in the USA. Many are engaged in lobbying.

  277. Terrorist Supporter Hosted Obama Hollywood Fundraiser

    Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama’s first Hollywood fundraiser was co-hosted by a supporter of the terrorists in Iraq. The Hollywood bibleVariety reported that Code Pink’s Jodie Evans co-hosted the Obama event with her ex-husband Max Palevsky and Dreamworks partners Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen in February 2007.

    In 2005 while attending the World Trbunal on Iraq in Istanbul, Evans gushed approvingly of the terrorists in Iraq in a statement originally published on the Code Pink website:

    “We must begin by really standing with the Iraqi people and defending their right to resist. I can remain myself against all forms of violence, and yet I cannot judge what someone has to do when pushed to the wall to protect all they love. The Iraqi people are fighting for their country, to protect their families and to preserve all they love. They are fighting for their lives, and we are fighting for lies.” (AlterNet, June 26, 2005)

    Code Pink endorsed the findings of the World Tribunal on Iraq that expressed unqualified support for the terrorists in Iraq.

    When Evans co-hosted the Obama fundraiser, she had just returned from Cuba as a guest of the Castro government where she and her Code Pink partner Medea Benjamin protested the U.S. military’s terrorist detention facility at Guantanamo. (A year before that, Evans had been a guest of Castro wannabe Hugo Chavez in Venezuala.)

    In December 2004, Evans helped Code Pink deliver $650,000 in cash and humanitarian aid to families of the terrorists in Fallujah. At the time, the U.S. military was waging a major campaign to retake the city from Al Qaeda in Iraq. The recent film about the insurgency in Iraq, Meeting Resistance, showed that family members of the insurgency are intimately involved in aiding terrorist activities.

    Recent news articles have reported on Evans’ bundling more than $50,000 in contributions to Sen. Obama’s presidential campaign, as well as her $2300 personal contribution to that campaign. The revelation that she was selected by Obama to co-host his first fundraiser in Hollywood takes their political relationship to a new, more personal level.

    Evans’ radical anti-American politics are no secret. The news of her trip to Castro’s Cuba just weeks before the fundraiser was widely reported. The knowledge of her support for the terrorists in Iraq was easily obtainable by doing a quick Internet search. That Barack Obama not only accepted Jodie Evans’ money, but also gave her the honor of co-hosting his first Hollywood fundraiser, should raise great concerns that he shares her radical pro-terrorist politics.

    It just gets worse.

  278. In Beaver Falls, the soaring eloquence of Obama, acclaimed author and former Harvard Law Review president, is having a tough time against the durable appeal of the Clinton dynasty and Hillary Clinton, the battle-tested political warrior.

    Obama supporters were hard to find at the high school baseball diamond, where parents watching the game protected themselves against the chill with Pittsburgh Steelers blankets or hooded Beaver Falls Tigers sweatshirts. So too at L’il Joe’s tavern, where middle-aged men in light-blue Pittsburgh Penguins jerseys jumped and cheered after each goal during the hockey team’s playoff win Monday night.

    Despite the political controversy over Obama’s San Francisco remarks, only a few of the more than two dozen people interviewed said they had heard of them. ESPN’s “Sportscenter” is more popular among this crowd than MSNBC’s “Hardball.”

    Local residents said they were drawn to Clinton because of her longer political track record, a more-plain spoken manner and memories of better times when a Clinton was last in the White House.

    “When Bill was president, I was working seven days a week,” said Mike Davis, 49, co-owner of the tavern and a factory worker at a ceiling-tile manufacturer.

    “The one thing I care about when they’re running for president is me working,” Davis added. “There’s going to be wars and things. But I want to be working. I don’t want to be out on the street with a tin cup. I don’t want jobs going to Mexico.”

    Down the bar, sitting beside her boyfriend and a teammate from their co-ed softball team, Stephanie Mohr, 26, a scheduler for a security company, judged Obama as suspiciously “glossy.”

    Likewise, at the baseball diamond, Cindy Reda, 42, a teacher’s aide who rushed toward the field to applaud her son’s hit, spoke skeptically of the fine language that has impressed so many of Obama’s admirers.

    “He speaks more — I don’t want to say over your head — but he uses more cliches. She’s more straight up. For him, I’m not quite sure what he’s saying. But he says it eloquently — all the time,” said Reda, a trace of disdain evident in her final words.

    Indeed, Clinton’s prosaic, nose-to-the-grindstone style can be an asset. Tracey Chiappetta, a 47-year-old homemaker and part-time office manager for her husband’s business, paid Clinton a compliment that people here can relate to: “She’s a hard worker.”

    more
    weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/by_mike_dorning_beaver_falls.html

  279. Clinton Floats Irish Bonds Idea
    April 16, 2008

    By April Drew

    SENATOR Hillary Clinton received a warm Irish welcome at the Irish American Presidential Forum in New York last Wednesday, where she pledged her commitment to working with Ireland on various issues if elected president.

    Clinton, who was the first of three presidential candidates expected to address the forum this year, spoke to an audience of 100 Irish Americans at the offices of radio show host Adrian Flannelly and attorney John Dearie. She said that matters pertaining to Ireland and the north of Ireland will be high priority on her agenda if she wins the White House.

    Clinton spoke about the possibility of establishing “Irish bonds” similar to Israel bonds in an ongoing effort to strengthening economic ties between both countries.

    Clinton said that many Irish Americans want to continue supporting the people of Ireland “As devolution takes place…funding from Westminster declines so there will be a real opening, and this could be a place where the Irish American community would be particularly important,” she said.

    “I would love to explore with you how best we could do that because I believe it would provide a steady revenue stream that would support the kind of investments that will in turn support the legitimacy, credibility and success of the government.”

    Regarding the topic of immigration, Clinton remains committed to a “path to legalization” as part of a comprehensive immigration reform package.

    “There are an estimated 50,000 undocumented Irish immigrants in the United States,” Clinton said, promising as part of her presidency she would continue to work with the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform and other groups to achieve such reform.

    Clinton addressed the “Six-Point Irish American Agenda” laid out by the Irish American Presidential Forum Committee, chaired by former state assemblyman Dearie, comprehensively and inclusively.

    Dearie, who welcomed Clinton upon her arrival, recalled the address made her by husband, Bill Clinton, to the forum in 1992. “(Clinton) really made a catalytic statement when he appointed a U.S. envoy to Northern Ireland and paved the way for Gerry Adams to come to this country,” said Dearie.

    Clinton promised, if elected, she would continue with the appointment of a special envoy to Northern Ireland. She went one step further by stating that the envoy would report directly to her.

    “It’s important to have a special envoy who will report directly to me,” she said. “Having an envoy will signal my personal commitment, that it’s not something farmed out to the appropriate desk officer in the State Department but instead someone who reports directly to the president.” She joked, “Those who wish to apply, please do so.”

    Flannelly also welcomed the Senator, making mention that without the Clintons there would be no Good Friday Agreement or “there would not be peace in Northern Ireland today.”

    Clinton, who flew in from the campaign trail in Pennsylvania, spoke about her own visits to Ireland and the North, mentioning in particular the women whom she met and how each and every one of them touched her heart.

    “Each of these women worried night and day when their husbands and sons left,” she recalled. “I learned and I listened and I did what I could.”

    Clinton answered the question, “Would you commit yourself, as president, to visiting Ireland and Northern Ireland during your first term in office?” with a witty, “What a hardship.”

    Clinton, who has visited Ireland six times, said she needed no excuse to go back there again.

    “As president I will travel to Ireland and Northern Ireland to honor the strong and deep relationship between our peoples. We have shared values, common aspirations, a bond that it unbreakable and presidential visits are a special part of reinforcing that bond.”

    Clinton, speaking of the peace process said, “We are clearly on the right path but we can’t become complacent.”

    She revisited a meeting she had in Washington last December with the North’s First Minister Ian Paisley and Deputy First Minister Martin McGuiness. She said the idea of sitting at the same table with the pair would have been “ a fantasy” a few years ago, but that both men are now working side by side to implement “boring but important work of government” encourages her.

    Clinton also promised to personally work with leaders of Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland and Great Britain to execute the Good Friday agreement. Clinton said she fully supports devolution of power and she believes the “transfer of policing and justice powers is a major priority that should be completed as swiftly as possible.”

    On the economy, she pledged, if elected president, her commitment to a continued partnership between the Irish and American markets.

    “I will help the Northern Ireland government and business leaders explore new opportunities to attract international investment and to nurture a growing all island economy,” she said, adding that she will also encourage companies based in Ireland to invest in the U. S.

    Responding to the question if she would convene a White House conference on Irish/American issues within the first two years of her administration, she said, “I will.”

    Clinton promised to bring major stakeholders together to discuss “how we can strengthen and improve the economic partnership between the U.S. and Ireland.”

    On a lighter note, Clinton said if elected president she would bring back the St. Patrick’s Day parties at the White House.

    At close of events, Dearie thanked Clinton for addressing the issues “in a specific way,” and joked that although he didn’t want to get into “domestic issues,” he thought Senator Clinton addressed the issues “spectacularly” compared to then Governor Bill Clinton, who only did “very good” in 1992. The statement was met with loud applause.
    http://www.irishabroad.com/news/irish-voice/news/Articles/Clinton-Floats-Irish-Bonds-Idea190408.aspx

  280. Republican Ads Cling to Obama Remarks
    Nick Timiraos reports from Philadelphia on the presidential race.

    Anyone wondering how the Republicans plan to exploit Barack Obama’s gaffe about rural America have a textbook example. The bigger question now is whether the charges of liberal elitism will stick.

    The Republican Party launched online ads on Tuesday that use the Illinois senator’s “mangled” comments about small-town Pennsylvanians to put pressure on Democratic senate candidates, several of which haven’t endorsed a candidate in their capacity as party superdelegates.

    The ads target Democrats facing re-election like Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu, who leads her Republican challenger, state Treasurer John Kennedy, by 12 points in a recent poll by Southern Media & Opinion Research.

  281. Hillary Clinton the straight shooter
    By: Roger Simon
    April 15, 2008 04:58 PM EST

    When I saw a video of Hillary Clinton downing a shot of Crown Royal whiskey in Bronko’s Restaurant and Lounge in Crown Point, Ind., on Saturday night, I was delighted to see that she has finally learned what campaigning for president is all about.

    Last week, Barack Obama went to a private fundraiser in San Francisco and made some semi-coherent remarks about how people in small towns “get bitter” and “cling” to “guns or religion.”

    Clinton blasted Obama for being “elitist and out of touch.”

    “I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Sen. Obama made about people in small-town America,” Clinton said.

    But Clinton’s statement was not as important as her downing that shot of whiskey.

    Presidential campaigning is about image making, and there is no better image than being a man (or woman) of the people.

    Who is actually less elitist or more in touch with average Americans makes little difference.

    I am not sure that Hillary Clinton of Wellesley College and Yale Law School feels the pain of ordinary people any more keenly than Barack Obama of Columbia University and Harvard Law School.

    They are both lawyers who are married to lawyers. They are both millionaires. They both live in very nice houses. Wolves have not gathered at their doors in a long time.

    But while Americans place the office of the presidency on a pedestal and demand (though they do not always receive) higher standards from our presidents, we also demand that they be like us.

    In 1988, when George H.W. Bush was portrayed as a preppie wimp, he changed his image by drinking beer and pitching horseshoes in public. (After he was elected, he returned to martinis and golf.)

    Bill Clinton’s famous “Man From Hope” video that debuted at the Democratic convention in 1992 was designed to emphasize his small-town, man-of-the-people roots. His polling had identified a problem: Too many people associated him with Georgetown, Oxford and Yale Law School. So we also learned of Clinton’s love for Big Macs and that he put AstroTurf in the back of his pickup truck as a youth. He was a regular guy. (Maybe a little too regular, as it turned out.)

    Bob Dole, who grew up in rural Russell, Kan., often talked about how his father wore “overalls for 42 years” and how his family lived in the basement of their house during the Depression so they could rent out the top floors. Dole rarely, if ever, talked about the very nice condos he owned at the Watergate complex in Washington and in Florida or the fact that he was a millionaire.

    And why should he? Deep down, the public knows that virtually all the people who run for president are wealthy and live an elite lifestyle, no matter how they grew up.

    What is important is their image.

    Which is why the whiskey that Hillary threw back could be the Shot Heard Round the World if handled right.

    If I were her campaign manager, I would be making the ad already:

    Video: Barack Obama in a tuxedo at a fat-cat fundraiser.

    Audio: “Barack Obama drinks Chateau D’Yquem and eats artisanal cheeses.”

    Video: Hillary Clinton throws back a whiskey at Bronko’s Restaurant.

    Audio: “Hillary Clinton knows how to drink like a real American!”

    Video: Clinton slams her shot glass on the bar and wipes her mouth with the back of her hand.

    Audio: “I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this ad. I also approve Jell-O shots.”

    Video: Clinton grins and motions to the bartender for another.

    Audio: “Hillary Clinton. She drinks like you do.”

    Phony? Misleading? Unfair?

    Hey, this is politics. Those words don’t even exist.

    dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=4EA4B7EF-3048-5C12-001CC37346FAE396

  282. So, I won’t watch his attack ad on hill, but can someone tell me? Does it have the booers, a pic of hill looking old, and then something about how negative she is? I ask because Axelrod ran that ad against Patrick’s female opponent(who ran a willie horton type ad against Patrick).

  283. Sen.Obama: your career,started on the streets of East Chicago,with the inspiration and mentoring of Rev.Jeramiah Wright,The dirty funds of Tony Rezko.

    Sen.Obama: your career will end in Chicago,in a fedaral Court with the Tony Rezko and a republican prosecuter named Patrick Fitzgerald.May your journey be swift and without any mercy.You sir are a fraud and flawed discredit to you country.

    By ABM90 Fight on Hillary.Your country needs you.

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE “

  284. MR. CARVILLE: … there’s a large segment of the Democratic Party that would like to win an election without these kind of white, working-class voters

    Well, then, we will lose. Hate to break it to this large segment but you can not win a GE without working class whites.

  285. Why would people who call themselves “Democrats” want to win without working class people? I don’t understand it. Carville said this in a discussion with Bob Shrum, and Shrum immediately interrupted him and the conversation got off track, so it was never explained.

  286. plural Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 8:56 am
    Why would people who call themselves “Democrats” want to win without working class people? I don’t understand it

    Because they are elitist.

    So, does anyone know the answer to my question about the ad?

  287. Good Morning! One of the things you can do is write letters to the editors in support of Hillary. Hillary First Responders has more information. Thanks.

    Billings Gazette (MT)
    By e-mail: speakup@billingsgazette.com
    250 words
    name, home address, and day and evening phone numbers

    The Montana Standard (MT)
    By email: Roberta.Stauffer@Lee.Net
    Address, day and evening phone numbers

    The Missoulian (MT)
    By e-mail: oped@missoulian.com
    300 words
    name, address and telephone number

    The Register Guard (OR)
    By email: rgletters@guardnet.com
    250 words
    name, address and phone number

    The Herald-Sun (NC)
    By email: letters@heraldsun.com
    250 words

    Fort Wayne Journal Gazette (IN)
    By email: letters@jg.net
    200 words
    name, address and phone number

  288. Good Morning!

    After looking at the poll numbers, I am confident that Hillary will win PA right at 10 pts.

  289. Obama toasted Auchi at Rezko party

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/04/one-degree-of-separation-obama-toasted.html

  290. JAS – I’ve got to believe she will win by more than 10 points. I’m not a statistician but common sense would leave me to believe she will do better than Ohio considering Wright, bitter etc.

  291. tcbequalityactions: You are probably right, I was being a bit conservative. Is PR a winner take all primary?

  292. Wowser!!! Man, I haven’t paying attention to the Rezko soap opera as closely lately, but this is D-E-E-P!! I wish they’d slap down an Ace of Spades on his ass at that debate tonight.

  293. This is just my humble opinion, but I see the Pennsylvania primary as being a huge turning point for the Democratic Party and the DNC in particular. There is no doubt that the “elders” and Obama supporters didn’t want it to get this far. While they as well as the news media keeping raising the bar for Hillary, i.e. this is a must-win double didget primary for her, it could also become a statement for Obama’s negatives/ineligibility to win the big states and consequently the primary and G.E.

    The DNC allowed certain states to move up their primarys/caucuses early with absolutely no punishment. They didn’t grant Florida or Michigan the same courtesy and now find themselves damned if they do and damned if they don’t accept those results. As well, Obama’s negatives are such have stopped trusting the major networks/cable stations anymore, with the exception of Fox News, as shown in the drop in ratings.

    With Hillary, I pray, winning in double didgets next Tuesday, there exists a very tiny window where the DNC can regain it’s self-respect and that of Democrats all over. There are already cracks appearing here and there, little doubts that maybe just maybe they picked the wrong racehorse. I’m not suggesting that “snap” they change allegiances in a race where they are supposed to be supporting both candidates but are not. Their prejudices against the Clintons will not disappear. But maybe they will realize that if they indeed want to win the G.E., in a year where there is no reason why they shouldn’t (based on Bush/Republican negatives), then they might start making decisions for the better, team decisions that might just save the Democratic Party from a disgraceful downfall.

    With Obama’s recent small mind/small town comments, Pennsylvania could be his Waterloo (a person can hope anyways…lol…). It is his divisiveness/negative campaign that is destroying the party.

    So I am just saying that the spin the media and his supporters are trying to force on everyone is just that, full of holes and inaccuracies. The real challenge here is for Obama not to disgrace himself in this primary.

    I don’t post here much anymore, but I just felt I had to post just this once. Sorry for the ramble.

  294. Wowzer is right. Daaaayyyuuumm.

    Charlie has to ask about it today. It’s too big of a lie about SH’s bagman who mysteriously sends money to the BFF who helps buy his house. Look for more press types to go after this mess and the money trail.

  295. Doesn’t Barack realize that being an elitist has nothing to do with how much money you have or where you came from. It means that he feels socially superior to everyone and that includes most of Pennsylvania and most likely the rest of the United States. I can’t understand why he thinks that people who don’t vote for him are racists when they just think he is a horses’ ass and don’t want him to be their president. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him. He is a liar and continues to play the race card whether warranted or not. I have nothing against his color. I just would be embarrassed to have him represent this country. He does not represent the United States. His ties are elsewhere, i.e. Iraq, Syria, the Palestinians, Hamas, Khaladi (sp.)

    I only trust Hillary with this country. She has never let this country down and just because she becomes President, she won’t change. GO HILLARY!!

  296. SUGAR, I wish the press would put some pressure on and dig up his supposedly nonexistent records from his Illinois years.

    You cannot tell me that there do not exist daytimers, calendars, appt books, etc from a freaking state senator’s office.

    I can guarantee you that they show many, many meetings with Rezko, with every other damn shady character in Chicago politics/business – all busy lining each others pockets while his constituents struggled and froze their black asses off in rat-infested buildings.

  297. now, do you observe the -ve headings for hillary from ABC news & FOX news… hehehehe… obama is surging it seems as per fox news & ABC news.. hehehe they only should be knowing where he is surging hahahaha total BS

  298. h t t p : / / news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080416/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_union

    Clinton picks up union endorsement!!

    WASHINGTON – Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won the endorsement of a union representing plasterers and cement masons in the construction industry.The 45,000-member Operative Plasterers’ and Cement Masons’ International Association timed its endorsement for Clinton’s speech Wednesday before the AFL-CIO’s Building Trades National Legislative Conference. Clinton announced the support when she took the stage and said she was grateful and honored.

    Union President Pat Finley said in a statement that Clinton has the ability to turn around the economy and rebuild the middle class.

    “She has a clear record fighting for working families, and is the strongest candidate to go toe-to-toe with John McCain in November,” Finley said.

    ___

  299. great article!! you must go read it!! 😀

    w w w . nytimes.com/2008/04/16/opinion/16dowd.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

    the highlights of the article:

    The last few weeks have not been kind to Hillary, but the endless endgame has not been kind to the Wonder Boy either. Obama comes across less like a candidate in Pennsylvania than an anthropologist in Borneo.
    His mother got her Ph.D. in anthropology, studying the culture of Indonesia. And as Obama has courted white, blue-collar voters in “Deer Hunter” and “Rocky” country, he has often appeared to be observing the odd habits of the colorful locals, resisting as the natives try to fatten him up like a foie gras goose, sampling Pennsylvania beer in a sports bar with his tie tight, awkwardly accepting bowling shoes as a gift from Bob Casey, examining the cheese and salami at the Italian Market here as intriguing ethnic artifacts, purchasing Utz Cheese Balls at a ShopRite in East Norriton and quizzing the women working in a chocolate factory about whether they could possibly really like the sugary doodads.
    He hasn’t pulled a John Kerry and asked for a Philly cheese steak with Swiss yet, but he has maintained a regal “What do the simple folk do to help them escape when they’re blue?” bearing, unable to even feign Main Street cred. But Hillary did when she belted down a shot of Crown Royal whiskey with gusto at Bronko’s in Crown Point, Ind.
    Just as he couldn’t knock down the bowling pins, he can’t knock down Annie Oakley or “the girl in the race,” as her husband called her Tuesday —
    SNIP:
    Even when Hillary’s campaign collapsed around her and her husband managed to revive the bullets over Bosnia, Obama has still not been able to marshal a knockout blow — or even come up with a knockout economic speech that could expand his base of support.
    Even as Hillary grows weaker, her reputation for ferocity grows stronger. A young woman in the audience at a taping of “The Colbert Report” at Penn Tuesday night asked Stephen Colbert during a warm-up: “Are you more afraid of bears or Hillary Clinton?”
    Even though Democratic elders worry that the two candidates will terminally bloody each other, they each seem to be lighting their own autos-da-fé.
    *****In the popular imagination “auto-da-fé” has come to refer to burning at the stake for heresy.****

    SNIP:

    What turns off voters is the detached egghead quality that they tend to equate with a wimpiness, wordiness and a lack of action — the same quality that got the professorial and superior Adlai Stevenson mocked by critics as Adelaide. The new attack line for Obama rivals is that he’s gone from J.F.K. to Dukakis. (Just as Dukakis chatted about Belgian endive, Obama chatted about Whole Foods arugula in Iowa.)

    SNIP:

    Michelle did her best on “The Colbert Report” Tuesday to shoo away the aroma of elitism.
    Growing up, she said: “We had four spoons. And then my father got a raise at the plant and we got five spoons.”

  300. A message from big dawg:

    Dear,

    I’m going to give you the same advice I give to Hillary: block out the distractions — the skeptics, the media coverage, the beltway chatter — and keep your eyes on the prize.

    With the news media constantly poring over the minutiae of the campaign, I make sure Hillary never forgets to stay focused on what matters: telling every last American about her vision, her experience, and her commitment to bringing real change to people’s lives.

    Let the press worry about the shifting polls and the daily back-and-forth. As long as Hillary stands up for the values we share — and as long as you stand up for her — she’s going to win this race.

    It’s a tight race, whether you’re counting delegates or total votes, the kind where one big victory can shift the momentum. We’ve got a race like that coming up in Pennsylvania in just six days, and your immediate action will make a difference.

    Contribute now to help Hillary win big in Pennsylvania on Tuesday.

    We know Senator Obama’s strategy: spend, spend, and spend some more.

    His campaign is hoping their spending is enough to win the primary and bring this race to a close. But they weren’t counting on the incredible connection Hillary has made with Pennsylvanians or the remarkable support you have shown her.

    Tonight, Hillary will share the stage with Senator Obama in a debate, and Pennsylvania voters will consider their final decisions over the next six critical days.

    If you contribute to Hillary’s campaign today, you can be assured of two things: it will go right back out the door to help her win, and it will make a difference in this close race.

    Contribute today for our Pennsylvania victory.

    Don’t forget: stay focused on what’s important, and we’ll celebrate victory together.

    Thank you,

    Bill Clinton

  301. I don’t see a union endorsement as a sign of “growing weaker.”

    I am really tired of the trashing of Hillary and her campaign. When we know everything she does is trashed, no matter what it is, or how good she is. The MSM wants people to believe she isn’t competent, as that is her best argument for herself.

  302. Michelle did her best on “The Colbert Report” Tuesday to shoo away the aroma of elitism.
    Growing up, she said: “We had four spoons. And then my father got a raise at the plant and we got five spoons.”

    Oh lord.

  303. Bob Somerby had this great comment about elitism yesterday:

    “Elitism isn’t about what you do. It isn’t about how much money you have. (FDR was wealthy.) It’s about the things you think and say about those small-town or working-class rubes.”

  304. From JFK to Dukakis, ooh that gotta hurt.

    In fact its downright ridicule, you see, i warned that him being placed on a high pedestal meant a very hard and ugly fall.

  305. All this he is surging is the BM in panic mode, they fear their anointed one may fall flat on his his and they are trying to drum up bandwagon jumpers to lessen the blow.

    Be prepared and take your blood pressure medication tonight. No matter how well Hillary does tonight BM will say Obama won the debate.

  306. the funny thing is, the more they say he’s surging, the bigger the fall next week will be when she slaughters him in PA.

  307. Even as Hillary grows weaker, her reputation for ferocity grows stronger. A young woman in the audience at a taping of “The Colbert Report” at Penn Tuesday night asked Stephen Colbert during a warm-up: “Are you more afraid of bears or Hillary Clinton?”

    A young woman comparing Hill to a bear doesn’t actually please me.

  308. He could make a mistake and correct himself by saying “God damn it, that is not what I meant to say” and BM would praise him for correcting himself.

  309. MJ

    I think the point of that question was “how afraid of Hillary are you?” basically pointing out how Wimpy the BM has been

  310. djia Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
    MJ

    I think the point of that question was “how afraid of Hillary are you?” basically pointing out how Wimpy the BM has been

    I don’t think so. They have not been at all wimpy with Hill.

  311. meiyingsu Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
    mj, do you mean that those hunting group is going to endorse BHO?

    Some hunting group is vouching for him. It’s on Hill’s website.

  312. Obama tied to lobbyists, but boasts of not taking money

    w w w . usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm

    By Ken Dilanian, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON — Barack Obama often boasts he is “the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyists,” yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show.

    Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator’s presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama’s campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows.

    TESTING THE LIMITS: Obama’s claim of independence questioned
    OBAMA FUNDRAISERS: Which lawyers bundle money?

    Thirty-one of the 38 are law firm partners, who typically receive a share of their firm’s lobbying fees. At least six of them have some managerial authority over lobbyists.

    “It makes no difference whether the person is a registered lobbyist or the partner of a registered lobbyist, if the person is raising money to get access or curry favor,” said Michael Malbin, director of the Campaign Finance Institute, a non-partisan think tank.
    FIND MORE STORIES IN: Washington | Florida | Philadelphia | Illinois | Microsoft | Hillary Rodham Clinton | John McCain | Harris | Center for Responsive Politics | Lockheed Martin | Cisco | Campaign Finance Institute | Tommy Vietor | Michael Malbin | Wiltshire | Allan Katz | Grannis | Akerman Senterfitt

    Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said that while Obama’s refusal to take money from lobbyists “isn’t a perfect solution or symbol, it does reflect Obama’s record of trying to change the way that Washington does business.” He declined to elaborate.

    Lobbyists have long played key fundraising and policymaking roles for candidates, and lobbyists are raising money for both Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain.

    Obama fundraisers who work for law firms that lobby and share the fees include:

    •Allan Katz, a Florida lawyer who chairs the government relations practice of Akerman Senterfitt. The firm took in $3.6 million for Washington lobbying last year, according to public records compiled by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics. The firm touts on its website “an enviable level of access” for clients.

    •Mark Alderman, managing partner of Philadelphia’s WolfBlock law firm. The firm’s lobbying subsidiary earned $930,000 in Washington last year representing clients including defense contractor Lockheed Martin, records show.

    •Scott Blake Harris, managing partner of Harris, Wiltshire & Grannis, a Washington telecommunications law firm. Harris withdrew as a lobbyist for Microsoft and Cisco in June, but his partners still lobby, he said.

    “My practice isn’t going to be helped by this at all,” said Harris, who said he got involved with Obama after his 14-year-old son interned in the senator’s office. “I went to see him because of how nice he’d been to my kid, and I was captivated by his vision.”

    Katz, who got to know Obama over dinner, said his lobbying business “will be fine whether he wins or whether he loses.”

    Alderman said he was “just blown away” after meeting Obama. “This is not a business proposition for me,” he said.

    OBAMA FUNDRAISERS: Lobbyist ties
    These 38 fundraisers for Barack Obama’s presidential campaign work for law firms that have lobbying operations in Washington, D.C. The dollar figure reflects the minimum amount each has pledged to raise for the campaign.
    BUNDLER
    MIN. PLEDGE LOCATION FIRM
    Scott Harris $200,000 DC Harris, Wiltshire and Grannis
    Allan J. Katz
    $200,000 FL Akerman Senterfitt
    Michael Lawson $200,000 CA Skadden, Arps
    John Levi $200,000 IL Sidley Austin
    Karol Mason $200,000 GA Alston & Bird
    Thomas J. Perrelli $200,000 VA Jenner & Block
    Thomas A. Reed $200,000 VA Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis
    Christina Tchen $200,000 IL Skadden, Arps
    Tony West $200,000 CA Morrison & Foerster
    Mark L. Alderman $100,000 PA Wolf, Block, Schorr and Solis-Cohen
    Timothy M. Broas $100,000 MD Winston & Strawn
    Peter Bynoe $100,000 IL DLA Piper
    Gregory B. Craig $100,000 DC Williams & Connolly
    Norman Eisen $100,000 DC Zuckerman Spaeder
    Nicole Lamb-Hale $100,000 MI Foley & Lardner
    Andrew Schapiro $100,000 NY Mayer Brown
    Charles C. Adams Jr. $50,000 Switzerland Hogan & Hartson
    David Burd $50,000 DC Arnold & Porter
    Tom Cole $50,000 IL Sidley Austin
    Michael H. Dardzinski $50,000 China Reed Smith
    Howard W. Gutman $50,000 MD Williams & Connolly
    Jeff Horwitz $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
    David C. Jacobson $50,000 IL Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal
    Hrishi Karthikeyan $50,000 DC Covington & Burling
    Ronald Kirk $50,000 TX Vinson & Elkins
    William T. Lake $50,000 DC WilmerHale
    Edward Lazarus $50,000 CA Akin Gump
    Jack Levin $50,000 IL Kirkland & Ellis
    Kenneth G. Lore $50,000 DC Bingham McCutchen
    Charles B. Ortner $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
    Susan Pravda $50,000 MA Foley & Lardner
    Paul N. Roth $50,000 NY Schulte Roth & Zabel
    John Schmidt $50,000 IL Mayer Brown
    Robert M. Sussman* $50,000 DC Latham & Watkins
    Kathryn Thomson $50,000 VA Sidley Austin
    Barry B. White $50,000 MA Foley Hoag
    Steven M. Zager $50,000 TX Akin Gump
    Robert S. Litt n/a MD Arnold & Porter
    * Robert M. Sussman retired as a partner on December 31, 2007.
    Source: Obama for America, Center for Responsive Politics, Public Citizen

  313. re MO’s comment about spoons, my son sent me this:

    Actually, a bunch of people ought to show up to her next speaking gig with spoons…they can all hold them up in the air.

  314. • mj Says:
    April 16th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
    djia Says:
    April 16th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
    MJ
    I think the point of that question was “how afraid of Hillary are you?” basically pointing out how Wimpy the BM has been
    I don’t think so. They have not been at all wimpy with Hill.

    *******************
    That’s not what I meant, let me say it this way…

    I say Wimpy in the sense that they are fearful of “her” as their president to the point of attacking her in a sexist demeaning way
    That they are NOT MAN enough or BRAVE enough to accept the possibility of a woman in charge.

    But perhaps I chose the wrong word, perhaps I should of used slimy?

  315. Bmerry

    someone on TM offered this idea…..i love it by the way 😀

    we should all mail MO a spoon to the philly campaign office

  316. djia, I wish I could agree. But it just sounds like this woman was insulting Hill to me. I hope your interpretation is right.

  317. Son’s t-shirt logo suggestions:

    * We’re all just living in the ObaMatrix.

    *Big BroBama is Watching You

    *Kook-Aid is coming out with a new flavor, it’s called “Mindless”

  318. mj Says:
    April 16th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    djia, I wish I could agree. But it just sounds like this woman was insulting Hill to me. I hope your interpretation is right.

    Mj you don’t have to agree with me…that’s not what this forum is about

    I am firm believer in different points of view, and such i have mine and you have your’s 😀

    I think the question asks who are you more afraid of a big scary blood shedding bear with fangs and claws or a woman (hillary) it was meant to be a sexism question
    to point out (mock) the biased attitudes with the media…….well at least in my mind that’s how I perceived it.

  319. terrondt Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
    hillfans, is it me or that public policy poll has always been biased towards hillary?

    What do you mean, terron?

  320. i think that 5 spoon charge by michelle obama is bs. i mean my family was really poor but we could afford more than a handful of spoons.

  321. I hear you, terron. Frankly, I don’t think MO has ever had a poor day in her life. She sounds like an ass.

    What PPP poll were you referring to?

  322. mj, the dem leaning public policy poll in pa has obama LEADING like 45% to 42%. i found it on realclear politics.com or check tpm poll tracker. they always have hillary in the worst position.

  323. I’m reposting from Wbboei earlier:

    more rebuttal to plouffes convient lie that the Obama campaign aint elitist but it really about the American People who are struggling to make ends meet-yea sure

    BO’s BUNDLER MINIMUM PLEDGE LOCATION FIRM
    Scott Harris $200,000 DC Harris, Wiltshire and Grannis
    Allan J. Katz $200,000 FL Akerman Senterfitt
    Michael Lawson $200,000 CA Skadden, Arps
    John Levi $200,000 IL Sidley Austin
    Karol Mason $200,000 GA Alston & Bird
    Thomas J. Perrelli $200,000 VA Jenner & Block
    Thomas A. Reed $200,000 VA Kirkpatrick &Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis
    Christina Tchen $200,000 IL Skadden, Arps
    Tony West $200,000 CA Morrison & Foerster
    Mark L. Alderman $100,000 PA Wolf, Block, Schorr and Solis-Cohen
    Timothy M. Broas $100,000 MD Winston & Strawn
    Peter Bynoe $100,000 IL DLA Piper
    Gregory B. Craig $100,000 DC Williams & Connolly
    Norman Eisen $100,000 DC Zuckerman Spaeder
    Nicole Lamb-Hale $100,000 MI Foley & Lardner
    Andrew Schapiro $100,000 NY Mayer Brown
    Charles C. Adams Jr. $50,000 Switzerland Hogan & Hartson
    David Burd $50,000 DC Arnold & Porter
    Tom Cole $50,000 IL Sidley Austin
    Michael H. Dardzinski $50,000 China Reed Smith
    Howard W. Gutman $50,000 MD Williams & Connolly
    Jeff Horwitz $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
    David C. Jacobson $50,000 IL Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal
    Hrishi Karthikeyan $50,000 DC Covington & Burling
    Ronald Kirk $50,000 TX Vinson & Elkins
    William T. Lake $50,000 DC WilmerHale
    Edward Lazarus $50,000 CA Akin Gump
    Jack Levin $50,000 IL Kirkland & Ellis
    Kenneth G. Lore $50,000 DC Bingham McCutchen
    Charles B. Ortner $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
    Susan Pravda $50,000 MA Foley & Lardner
    Paul N. Roth $50,000 NY Schulte Roth & Zabel
    John Schmidt $50,000 IL Mayer Brown
    Robert M. Sussman* $50,000 DC Latham & Watkins
    Kathryn Thomson $50,000 VA Sidley Austin
    Barry B. White $50,000 MA Foley Hoag
    Steven M. Zager $50,000 TX Akin Gump
    Robert S. Litt n/a MD Arnold & Porter

  324. Mj

    just ask the hubby what he thought about the question……and joe said
    I think they spelled “barack” (bear) wrong LOL 😀

  325. How many polls have been crap this year? I’ve lost count.

    Better ask how many have been accurate? Not many.

    So, as Bill says, ignore the polls and the media.

  326. on Taylor Marsh headline now:

    A Pinocchio problem? To fib . . . or is it a faulty memory?

    To wit: Dem presidential contender Barack Obama’s handlers may be telling the press Obama has NO “recollection” of a 2004 party at influence peddler Tony Rezko’s Wilmette house, but a top Sneed source claims Obama not only gave Rezko’s guest of honor, Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi, a big welcome . . . but he made a few toasts!

    ********

    This sure sounds similar to “I wasn’t present at the Church when Rev. Wright made his inflammatory statements”

  327. all polls except susa are rigged, just like the MSM talking points!!!!

    they probably asked only AA (no offense intended to the AA here) but there is NO WAY IN HELL
    the polls went from +20hill to a negative % for hillary in 2 days

    it’s absolutely laughable!! LOL

  328. i think hillary should slam the puke tonite on the exxon/mobil employees giving to his campaign. also she should be ready for attacks on bosnia. bring up rezko while she is at also the bitter and clinging to guns/religion too. she has plenty to fire if he acts stupid.

  329. That is what I have been saying about tihs guy , he only comes clean when caught. The press finds donations but not all connected to Rezko, sohe just returns what is found until more is found and then returns that. He is just like the rest of the sewer scum Chicago politicians.

  330. is this the Obama bombshell Sherm Kadar was talking about? from a TM poster:

    WASHINGTON — Barack Obama often boasts he is “the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyists,” yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show. Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator’s presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama’s campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows.

    Thirty-one of the 38 are law firm partners, who typically receive a share of their firm’s lobbying fees. At least six of them have some managerial authority over lobbyists.
    usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N .htm
    hunkerdown | 04.16.2008 – 11:55 am | #

  331. this is cute(last paragraph) …….love the big dawg 😀

    From NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli
    INDIANA, PA — Bill Clinton told a crowd here that small towns are “the backbone of this country” and the “heart of her campaign.”

    “If she is going to win Pennsylvania, and win it by a good margin to propel her to these other states, it will have to be in places like Indiana,” he told 2,500 at Indiana University of Pennsylvania’s gym. “Places that say, we need a president, we want somebody who we know can change everybody’s lives for the better by empowering us to deal with these problems.”

    Clinton said that his wife’s campaign has “concentrated heavily from the beginning” on small towns and rural areas. His schedule, in particular, has focused on these places. “You should know how much communities like this have allowed her to continue to compete and be in a position to win this nomination, in spite of being outspent by millions and millions of dollars,” he said.

    He also joked about the name of the town, which matches that of a critical upcoming state. “We had those big elections in Texas and Ohio and Rhode Island, and then it was six whole weeks before the Pennsylvania primary. Now, they speed up again,” he said. “Everybody’s worried all the time, ‘How are we gonna do this, how are we gonna do this. And I say, well, you need another scientific genius like me, because I’m in Pennsylvania and Indiana at the same time.”

  332. hillfans, as usual i have to work this evening. thank goodness for having a dvr. anyway i will join the after debate party late tonite. i will catch snippets at work tonite.

  333. djia is right; pay no attention to the polls. The media and the Obama campaign are trying to again change the narrative to: She can’t win; she’s desperate; he’s surging, etc. This is their typical game plan. When he’s coming up to a primary where he’s behind they revert to voter suppression mode , e.g., telling potential voters that it’s all over, everyone is deserting her, etc., with the hope that Hillary supporters will be demotivated and stay home and not vote. It hasn’t worked before and it’s not going to work now. In the meantime, I thought everyone would like this on-the-ground PA update which was posted by someone at TM:

    “I just spoke to Dave Turley, the NY coordinator for Hillary’ campaign in Philly (because I’m going to PA on Saturday for 4 days), and I asked him how it feels on the ground. He says it looks great, even in Philly. “This is not her town, and there’s still great support, and from what I hear in other parts of the state, it’s gangbusters. 1,000 NY-ers signed up just yesterday to come to PA.”

    WAHOOOOOOOOOO!” fif (TM Poster)

  334. well i hope the debate tonight has its “tim russert” moment………what!! you say;

    let me explain 😀

    remember when TR asked obama about the race card issues, {I forget what debate that was}and then pulled out the 4 page memo put out by his campaign which proved BO was a liar and he had to do a little back peddling on Nat Tv ……..loved that moment!!

    I hope they do a TR moment on this lobbyist and PAC money issue 😀

  335. Why are they now saying she must win the next three to continue??? She will win PA by 5-10% and probably Indiana as well. We all now why she can’t win NC.
    With wins in every major democratic state, including PA, where no recent nominee has lost and gone on to be the Prez, how can the SD’w not vote for her!!!! He racked up a bunch of meaningless red states and one big state-his own-and nothing else!!!! F–k the party at this point. If they don’t go her way, she must run as an Independent with Bill..she has no future in the democratic party as the good ole boys(and some good ole ladies like Pelosi and Brazille) made it clear….it’s time for Hillary and Bill to take the gloves off and do what they do best-win this election for us!!!

  336. lol, a commentor said on TM maybe they will ask obama the first question for a change. i doubt it. the set hillary up all the time on that one.

  337. “they revert to voter suppression mode , e.g., telling potential voters that it’s all over, everyone is deserting her, etc.,”

    Exactly. That’s what this all is — it’s not reality, it’s propaganda.

    (lol, gotta love Bill 🙂 )

  338. jbstonesfan, i know why about north carolina. see south carolina, mississippi, and alabama for that reason. “shrugg”.

  339. hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=7128

    This one is going to bring dividends in PR.

    The Clinton campaign announced today the endorsement of winner of the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Latin Grammy, musician Willie Colón.

    “Hillary has been on the side of our families for over 35 years – she has been with us from the very beginning. I want a President who I can count on, someone who in tough times will be there for me — that’s why I’m supporting Hillary Clinton,” said Colón.

    Willie Colón, a Bronx native of Puerto Rican grandparents, has fused his musical talent, his commitment and passion for humanity, and his activism into an extraordinary career.

    His achievements in all his activities are widely recognized. As musician, composer, arranger, singer, and trombonist, as well as producer and director, Colón holds the all time record for sales in his genre — he has created 40 productions that have sold more than thirty million records worldwide.

    In 1997 Willie Colón became a spokesperson for the international relief and development organization CARE. Colón has also been involved in the campaigns to end the practice bombing of the Puerto Rican island municipality of Vieques. On April 16, 2001, Willie received the EPA’s “Environmental Quality Award”, the EPA’s highest award for people that do not work for the Agency.

  340. and the ironic thing about those states in the fall, NO DEMOCRAT IS WINNING THOSE ELECTORAL VOTES IN THE FALL. obamabots delude themselves thinking they can win there.

  341. Hi everyone, it’s been awhile! I’m pumped for tonite’s debate, Our girl is going to clean house 🙂

    I’ve been off for awhile and my history was cleared, so I forgot if it was Hillaryis44.com or .org, so I googled to check and I found something that you may not want to see

    h t t p : / / hillaryis44.blogspot.com

    Has anyone seen this yet? I think she is doctoring are quotes??

  342. Hillary is spending a lot of money in NC and wouldn’t be doing that if internal polling told them it was going to be a blowout. A big win in PA, NC will tighten up and undecideds trend towards Hillary in the last few days before each election which can make NC very close.

  343. Interesting about MO 4 spoons…..

    suntimes.com/news/metro/221458,CST-NWS-mich21.article

    “But when she was little, Michelle loved “girl” stuff.

    She set up an Easy Bake Oven in her bedroom. She sprawled across the carpet with the African American version of Barbie, her mate, their toy house and car.”

    Geez, do you know how much that stuff costs?

  344. @Win4hill

    that site don’t bother me at all, take it as a compliment actually…….

    i look at it this way, if we were not so successful at getting the truth out which is such a threat to obama
    if they didn’t fear us…they wouldn’t of bothered creating that site or talking about us all over the blogosphere 😀

  345. New York Sun: Obama’s Head Fake
    By Ken Blackwell

    Three revelations over the past month have started to reveal a very different portrait of the junior senator than what Mr. Obama and his promoters have been painting during this campaign. These recent revelations could redefine the campaign, and put him on unsustainable footing.

    http://www.nysun.com/editorials/obamas-head-fake

  346. Comment from my favorite political stratgegist. Yes I know he was once associated with Morris, and is still affiiliated with Penn, but he is not involved in this campaign. Keep this in mind when you watch the debate tonight and see if it proves out.

    New Strategy for Clinton

    By Douglas E. Schoen
    Wednesday, April 16, 2008; Page A15

    Hillary Clinton took an important step Monday toward winning the Democratic nomination by launching an ad targeting Barack Obama’s recent comments about working-class voters clinging to “guns or religion.” The ad is a marked change from her recent determination to use a positive message until the Democratic convention, but for Clinton to capture the nomination she needs to completely abandon her positive campaign and continue to hammer away at Obama.

    Clinton has provided a compelling case for her candidacy thus far. After all, the superdelegates have the power to end the Democratic contest now and have chosen to wait. At the very least, Clinton has created enough doubts about Obama and his electability to have earned a chance to compete in the next handful of primaries. But Clinton will almost certainly lose the pledged delegate count and the popular vote. To capture the nomination despite these facts she must convince the superdelegates that she is the only candidate who can win against John McCain in November.

    As the underdog, Clinton’s positive message will not work unless she is able to undermine Obama’s candidacy. The Illinois senator’s success has been largely built upon his claims that he is a unifier who can work above partisan politics, that he will bring change to our government and that he will bring a new style of leadership to Washington. Without bringing a strong amount of skepticism to these claims, Clinton will not be able to make significant inroads in Obama’s lead and cannot persuade the superdelegates to go against the will of the American people.

    Clinton needs to argue that despite what Obama has said, he has done very little to actually promote and create bipartisan solutions in Washington and that he is, in fact, probably the Senate’s most liberal member. She needs to argue that his values are out of step with voters, as evidenced by his recent comments about why people are religious or seek to own guns. She also must argue that because of Obama’s lack of legislative accomplishments, he is ill-equipped to achieve what he sets out to do.

    By making these arguments compellingly in public appearances, through television and radio advertisements, and direct mail, Clinton can take advantage of the clear majority of American voters who have already said that they wholeheartedly disagree with the views Obama expressed last week in San Francisco.

    Although voters and the media look favorably upon a positive campaign message, and Clinton is acutely conscious that too much negativity and too many personal attacks will hurt her party in November, a positive message is simply not enough to alter the race at this point. It is too late for Clinton to wait for Obama to make another mistake. She must seize the opportunity that Obama’s self-acknowledged mistakes last week presented to her campaign; it is almost certainly her last chance.

    Douglas E. Schoen, a pollster, is the author of “Declaring Independence: The Beginning of the End of the Two-Party System.” He was an adviser to President Bill Clinton

  347. mj Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
    I hear you, terron. Frankly, I don’t think MO has ever had a poor day in her life. She sounds like an ass.

    What PPP poll were you referring to?
    *****************************************************
    STOP! quoting Polls, I find it very interesting that the polls quoted has no underlining support given…so I’m very, very suspect on any polls being quoted by the media…when you see poll being quoted that you know are bias and wrong…like with 13% margin being used by most media…then it’s media propaganda.

    Also MO father was a precinct captain for Chicago 8th ward and live a very good middle class life. Precinct Captains in the Daley Machine are the go between and have great influence in the wards since they control how the money get spent in ward…they are the Mayor liason…I mean Chicago machine has been around for centuries.

    Michelle father gave my husband his first political job in Chicago Southside 8th ward…he help run the 8th ward. So no Michelle Obama is an Chicago elite and all her jobs since college has been connected to the Daley Political Machine.

  348. I will not watch the debate as no matter what happens the media and fake poll surveys afterward will say BO won…that is always the case.

  349. what’s going on here with Donna Brazile?:

    TM poster noted this:

    Donna Brazile said on CNN that if Hillary wins by 15 points in PA then Hillary will win the nomination.

    *****
    and yesterday, wasn’t there an WSJ article (can’t find link) where DB was worried about his chances in the CE and said that with his recent bitter remarks that Obama could be painted as “out of synch”

  350. wbboei, Schoen is echoing what we wrote days ago, if not months ago. The tough ads should have been up a long time ago.

    New article on the 2nd and 3rd torpedoes.

    And hooray for Willie Colón.

  351. mj Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 8:53 am
    MR. CARVILLE: … there’s a large segment of the Democratic Party that would like to win an election without these kind of white, working-class voters

    Well, then, we will lose. Hate to break it to this large segment but you can not win a GE without working class whites.

    ***************************8
    I don’t think that Carville was saying this for himself, I think that he was acknowledging that there are some folks in the party who thinks this way and that they haven’t figured out yet that you need rural/smal town folks/blue collar workers to win the election.

    kerry immediately comes to mind, speaking of Kerry, both he and Kennedy have been awfully quiet lately.

  352. I don’t see that Hillary “can’t” win the popular vote or even the lead in the delegate count

    All this math the MSM keep touting is based on the “flawed” information they put into it to get the outcome
    They “want” you to think is fact.
    But the truth is, it IS possible for her to gain in atleast the popular vote and maybe both……..IF you put in the correct information first.

    Let’s say BO Fs up big time (which he has many times as of late & more is coming) and the voters don’t vote for him
    They jump ship instead….or they (his support that is wavering and that wont vote for hillary) stay home? Seems
    To me the variables are a long list…..and for the MSM to narrate this as a do or die in pa is pathetic

    Seems to me the only states he has a decent “chance” in are NC and I think NC that is going to be split racially as SC wasl
    He “seems” to have a lead in OR….but I am doubting OR will be much of win for BO as most of that state is heavily populated
    By retiree’s (hills demographics) so I think the delegates in those two states will be split pretty even.

    So if she can rout him in PA,KY,IN,PR (and it’s looking like she will )she will take most of the delegates.

    Then the math would be in her favor which is something you won’t see BM put out there for you

  353. what’s going on here with Donna Brazile?:

    TM poster noted this:

    Donna Brazile said on CNN that if Hillary wins by 15 points in PA then Hillary will win the nomination.

    *****
    and yesterday, wasn’t there an WSJ article (can’t find link) where DB was worried about his chances in the CE and said that with his recent bitter remarks that Obama could be painted as “out of synch”
    ************
    Perhaps this is the DNC opening the door to dumping Obama??? 😀

  354. She is only up 6/7% average on RCP….why is he gaining after his offensive comments??? Dam it!!!

  355. jbstonesfan, there is NO evidence that BHO is really gaining. These are just polls and we know them so well.

  356. A pollster can get any numbers they want question just by phrasing the questions differently. The only polls that are accurate are the totals from the voting booths. Well almost always accurate.

  357. Brazille may be buying into the polls and does not think Hillary can win by 15 points. Won’t she look stupid when Hillary does win by 15 and then tries to backtrack on her prediction?

  358. I believe Chris Mattews sees the handwriting on the wall for his slimy job at MSNBC.He was first in line to wish Arlen Specter well and put in his two cents bid for The ill senator’s job in the PA Senate.What a disgusting person,he is.Of course this is why he was hired to destroy Hillary.It won’t work Tweety.You should be a great hire for OBAMA when he heads to Kenya to help out his cousin.You could do very well there.Your volunteer service to avoid military duty,will look pretty ratty to the brave men you shamed when there was a call to duty and you chose to run and hide. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

    BY ABM90 Go Hillary and show them all what abreal woman can do.

  359. I thought it was funny Matthews put out feelers to Rendell seeking his help. If Specter does not run and Rendell is not VP, Rendell will be the democratic nominee for Specter’s senate seat in 2010.

  360. Sorry for being rude, I’m just gonna jump in here and ask, even tho it may have been said before, as I don’t have time right now to have a read through of all the posts.

    Is it possible to watch tonights debate online? Or as abc has done before, will it only be available the day after??

    I really want to watch it, but I also have to go to work tomorrow, so I don’t want to stay up tonight needlessly….

    Thanks. (ps. our girl is gonna pull this whole thing off, I can feel it!!!!! )

  361. jbstonesfan Says:

    April 16th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
    I will not watch the debate as no matter what happens the media and fake poll surveys afterward will say BO won…that is always the case.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Valid point, MSM always seems to spin it the way they want to. When Hillary out-debates him (which is every time they’ve debated), they point out that “Obama this time was much better than earlier terrible Obama performances”…and “with him virtually assured to win number of states, popular vote, and committed delegates, all he had to do tonight was show and not say anything outlandlishly bad” (like call Hillary the C word, or have a San Francisco foot-in-mouth moment).

    However, no matter what the spinners do, they can’t put lipstick on the pig and tell us that’s a beauty. Besides, many people turn their tv’s to other shows the instant a debate ends. Russert, go ahead and blather on and on about how “Hillary missed her chance”, Matthew go ahead with your “Obama certainly looked comfortable in his skin”…

    Actually, tonight, I am walking across town (I work in Philly) to the Convention Center to join the Hillary supporters at a “visibility” event (to show that it’s not just Obama with an enthusiastic follwing), and will go watch the debate at a viewing party nearby. And we’ll all throw shit at the screen probably, “Hey, why do they always ask her the first question”, “Hey, that’s the tenth time Obama’s said ‘I agree with what Hillary just said….”, and “Kill the Ref”.

  362. Admin,

    The last two times I made a post, it did not show up? Please let me know as I come here mostly as a reader to find out what’s happening with our girl Hill. Once in a while I come across links that I think are important and will post them but they are never posted. Let me know something please. Thanks.

  363. jade, I think posts go through a spam filter and sometimes links

    are perceived as spam. You have to post them a certain way

    maybe without the http

  364. By Bill Bradley of PajamasMedia: Deep Inside ‘Bittergate’

    April 15, 2008 – by Bill Bradley

    It’s one of the great ironies of the campaign. The resolutely pro-Obama Huffington Post, the site Barack Obama chose last month to put out his statement on Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s outrageous comments, this month is the source of one of his biggest campaign crises. Its namesake co-owner, the conservative-turned-liberal commentator profiled recently in the New York Times as “Citizen Huff,” Arianna Huffington, was on David Geffen’s yacht in Tahiti when the deal went down.

    I’m referring, of course, to the Huffington Post’s report of the now notorious comments Obama made on April 6th at a private fundraiser in San Francisco. There, the freshman Illinois senator, opining about people in small towns where the jobs have fled, said: “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    Those few words, transcribed from a more than 45-minute recording of Obama, buried in the midst of a very ruminative, rather personally-oriented piece by Mayhill Fowler, an activist blogger who supports Obama and contributed the maximum allowable $2,300 to his presidential campaign, kicked off a media firestorm.

    This is so funny! Now what was that quote from Obama? “I don’t think my church is actually, particularly controversial.”

  365. nikki22 Says:
    why do you all dislike Michelle Obama? I haven’t ever given her much thought so I don’t follow the headlines where she’s concerned.

    Early in the campaign she gave an interview to Vanity Fair which I found very dislikeable. Also one to MSNBC about AA’s not supporting Obama because of slavery or something; as though they could not have any current policy reasons for supporing someone else. Just Google for some of the phrases people keep quoting. See some videos if you can; I think she looks and moves very disagreeable, arrogant, belligerant. (Not like CArole Simpson(sp?) who did the National Town Hall with HIllary.)

  366. dot48 Says:
    April 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
    How sad.

    Do you have cites for this? Who says so? If it’s sound cites, which advisors are mentioned?

    This sounds like nonsense, poison, not good to spread unless it’s REALLY true.

    (Remember the nonsense about CArter — Carter himself denied it, said he was not endorsing TILL THE CONVENTION, and unless a candidate had ALL THREE — POPULAR VOTE, states, and delegate lead — all bets were off.

  367. djia Says:
    April 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    he got a great talking point out tonight….. he talked about how if you take out the republican votes out of the popular vote he is not doing so good

    YAY!!! But WHO said this? And what about Independents’ votes? Last I heard, a poll said Wright had hurt Obama among Independents.

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