Barack Obama’s Two Faces and People Powered OUT Movement

Superdelegate Governor Schweitzer of Montana gets it. The Big Blogs, the Palestinians, Israel supporters, gun control advocates, gun control opponents – don’t hold your breath.

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Tears rolled down our eyes we were laughing so hard. They should have read Obama’s Astroturf from May of last year or the equally illuminating Fo Shizzle It’s Fizzle.

Only now are some Obama supporters realizing what we wrote about hundreds of days ago. Back then, no one questioned why an Obama official, who started social website Facebook, stomped out a grassroots supporter on social website MySpace.

Some websites, at the time, did write about the ugly takeover of Joe Anthony’s Obama supporting website. Most Obama supporters were not troubled by the stomping out of a grassroots supporter. Joe Anthony, to his credit, stopped drinking the Obama Kool-ade.

Yesterday, reminiscent of Joe Anthony, Obama’s Astroturf campaign revealed itself as the total fake it is. Obama supporters, the poor dears, were dismayed.

The hypocritical saga of Obama once again talking out of both sides of his mouth was documented by Hillary supporter Campskunk. Campskunk quotes an Obama supporter surprised by reality:

“By dusk on Wednesday, the California Obama campaign had purged almost all progressive anti-war activists from its delegate candidate lists. Names of candidates, people who had filed to run to represent Obama at the August Democratic Party National Convention, disappeared, not one by one, but hundreds at a time, from the Party web site listing the eligibles. The list of Obama delegate hopefuls in one northern California congressional district went from a robust 100 to an anemic 23, while in southern California, the list in Congressman Waxman’s district almost slipped out of sight, plunging from a high of 91 candidates to 17. Gone were strong women with independent political bases.”

Marcy went on to state that the remaining candidates appeared to be mostly “bundlers and their girlfriends“.

Welcome to the real world kiddies. You just took the red pill.

The Obama campaign is backtracking after dumping 900 or so delegate candidates and is now making more excuses and handing out blue pills. Be not deceived dear Obama incense burners – he’s just not that into you. You will be the first to go at every turn. It’s the “new politics”.

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It looks like Montana Democratic Governor Brian Schweitzer too just spit up the Obama Kool-ade because of two-face Obama. Montana votes on the very last day of the primary season and Governor Schweitzer is much loved in his state and in the Big Blogs. Let the Big Blog hatefest against Governor Schweitzer begin.

Some background on Superdelegate Montana Governor Schweitzer:

He owes the win in large part to his “regular guy” image and conservative stance on guns.

Now, with only three years in office under his belt, Schweitzer, who is neutral in the current presidential race, is sometimes mentioned by pundits as a possible running mate for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. Like the Democratic presidential front-runner, Schweitzer came out early against the Iraq War and has sworn off PAC money.

Despite a political profile that could help underscore the Democrats’ determination to win in traditionally Republican areas, it is easier to imagine the blunt-speaking Schweitzer making his own presidential run in 2012 than it is to see him playing second fiddle this year.

Governor Schweitzer, like Elizabeth and John Edwards, knows Hillary is exactly right on her healthcare proposal and that Obama will leave out millions of Americans from the weak Obama NOT universal health care scheme (Note: Don’t miss Paul Krugman today on Hillary and Health Care):

While Schweitzer has not proposed his own universal health care plan in Montana, he believes Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., is right to have endorsed a mandate on the national level.

By not requiring individuals to purchase insurance, Schweitzer believes Obama’s plan to forbid insurance companies to deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions will lead to healthy people opting out and sick people opting in.

You’ve got to get everyone in the system,” said Schweitzer.

Oh, dear. The Big Blog boobs will clutch their pearls on this one:

He is dismayed that Obama cast a vote for President Bush’s 2005 energy bill while regularly criticizing the president on the issue.

“Sounds like Senate-speak,” said Schweitzer.

He also takes issue with Obama for his statement to environmental groups last year in which he pledged not to support the development of any coal-to-liquid fuels unless they emit at least 20 percent less life-cycle carbon than conventional fuels.

Schweitzer, who has focused on the development of clean coal as governor, believes the 20 percent benchmark might be achievable. But even if coal-to-liquid fuels cannot be made any cleaner than conventional fuels, Schweitzer believes Obama should embrace coal as a way to reduce U.S. dependence on imported petroleum.

If Schweitzer were running for president, he says he would spend $100 billion on research and development into carbon sequestration technology.

“It sounds like a lot until you consider that we’re spending $1 billion a day in Iraq,” said Schweitzer.

Oh, double dear. Governor Schweitzer is not even happy with Obama on Iraq policy:

Schweitzer supports Obama’s call for an end to U.S. fighting in Iraq. But the Montana governor disagrees with Obama on the wisdom of long-term bases.

While Obama opposes leaving U.S. troops in Iraq to blunt the influence of neighboring countries, Schweitzer sees long-term U.S. bases in Iraq functioning as a “tripwire” against a broader regional war.

As to Obama’s pie-in-the-sky hope to win the west, Schweitzer knows Obama can’t win Montana:

But don’t look for an endorsement until after June 3: Schweitzer plans to back the winner of Montana’s last-in-the-nation primary.

While he thinks either Obama or Clinton running on his or her own has a 50-50 shot of winning the White House against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, Schweitzer doesn’t think either Democrat can take Montana.

Asked why not, he had a one word answer: “Guns.”

Obama has been multi-faced on Guns too. Obama might have trouble winning a primary, not just in Pennsylvania, but in Montana too. Governor Schweitzer is is a Big Sky Democrat, not a pie-in-the-sky Democrat.

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Palestinians and Jews have enough problems so we won’t mock or make light of their foolishness in trusting anything Obama says – too much. Obama can’t be trusted guys. As a president his foolishness and pie-in-the-sky lack of experience skullduggery and back stabbing would only bring you more grief. Haven’t you suffered enough?

Politico sums it up:

Peter Wallsten has a really well-reported piece this morning on Obama’s relationship with Palestinian activists in Chicago, and in particular his friendship with Columbia professor Rashid Khalidi.

The story doesn’t provide any evidence that Obama ever expressed anti-Israel views, and in more recent years he’s been very publicly pro-Israel, as his campaign reasserted in response to the piece. But it does place him at events at which Israel is accused of “apartheid” and details his friendly relationship with Palestinian activist, and Columbia University professor, Rashid Khalidi.

At this point, I’d say the damage to Obama with a segment of the Jewish community is probably going to be very hard to reverse. This isn’t a huge percentage of the vote of a community that doesn’t exist in big numbers in most swing states anyway. But for pro-Israel Jews who, say, know of Khalidi and consider him a hostile figure, and for the people in their communities who listen to them, the damage that comes with Obama’s Hyde Park milieu is going to be very, very hard to repair.

“There is a segment of the pro-Israel community in which skepticism of Barack Obama is only rising,” said the unaligned Democratic consultant Ken Baer, who follows Jewish politics closely, and whom I called this morning to talk about the story. [snip]

The Jewish vote matters a lot in Florida (which some think is now safely Republican anyway); it matters less, but a bit, in Ohio, where several thousand votes can make a big difference. [snip]

And, while we’re doing the electoral math, the perception that he’s friendly to Palestine may help Obama with Arab voters in Michigan and elsewhere, if they were inclined to vote Republican.

Um, Florida and Michigan. Little wonder Obama does not want a revote in those states.

Excerpts from the Los Angeles Times article about two face Obama and why he can’t be trusted:

A special tribute came from Khalidi’s friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi’s wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.

His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It’s for that reason that I’m hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation — a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid’s dinner table,” but around “this entire world.”

Today, five years later, Obama is a U.S. senator from Illinois who expresses a firmly pro-Israel view of Middle East politics, pleasing many of the Jewish leaders and advocates for Israel whom he is courting in his presidential campaign. The dinner conversations he had envisioned with his Palestinian American friend have ended. He and Khalidi have seen each other only fleetingly in recent years.

And yet the warm embrace Obama gave to Khalidi, and words like those at the professor’s going-away party, have left some Palestinian American leaders believing that Obama is more receptive to their viewpoint than he is willing to say.

Yes guys, keep listening to what he is not saying, that’s a real smart posture. Obama can’t be trusted. Part of the flim flam is to have people listen to what you don’t even say, to deceive them with winks and nods, to assure all sides you are on their side. But Obama is only on one side – his. Obama can’t be trusted.

Their belief is not drawn from Obama’s speeches or campaign literature, but from comments that some say Obama made in private and from his association with the Palestinian American community in his hometown of Chicago, including his presence at events where anger at Israeli and U.S. Middle East policy was freely expressed.

At Khalidi’s 2003 farewell party, for example, a young Palestinian American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. If Palestinians cannot secure their own land, she said, “then you will never see a day of peace.”

One speaker likened “Zionist settlers on the West Bank” to Osama bin Laden, saying both had been “blinded by ideology.”

Obama will say anything to anyone at any time. He can’t be trusted guys. He says one thing in public then another thing in public and then another thing in private and then another thing in private. He can’t be trusted.

“I am confident that Barack Obama is more sympathetic to the position of ending the occupation than either of the other candidates,” said Hussein Ibish, a senior fellow for the American Task Force on Palestine, referring to the Israeli presence in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that began after the 1967 war. More than his rivals for the White House, Ibish said, Obama sees a “moral imperative” in resolving the conflict and is most likely to apply pressure to both sides to make concessions.

“That’s my personal opinion,” Ibish said, “and I think it for a very large number of circumstantial reasons, and what he’s said.”

Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth. Ask blogger Joe Anthony, asked the purged delegates, ask gun control advocates and opponents:

Last year, for example, Obama was quoted saying that “nobody’s suffering more than the Palestinian people.” The candidate later said the remark had been taken out of context, and that he meant that the Palestinians were suffering “from the failure of the Palestinian leadership [in Gaza] to recognize Israel” and to renounce violence.

Jewish leaders were satisfied with Obama’s explanation, but some Palestinian leaders, including Ibish, took the original quotation as a sign of the candidate’s empathy for their plight. [snip]

Among other community events, Obama in 1998 attended a speech by Edward Said, the late Columbia University professor and a leading intellectual in the Palestinian movement. According to a news account of the speech, Said called that day for a nonviolent campaign “against settlements, against Israeli apartheid.”

The use of such language to describe Israel’s policies has drawn vehement objection from Israel’s defenders in the United States. A photo on the pro-Palestinian website the Electronic Intifada shows Obama and his wife, Michelle, engaged in conversation at the dinner table with Said, and later listening to Said’s keynote address. Obama had taken an English class from Said as an undergraduate at Columbia University.

Ali Abunimah, a Palestinian rights activist in Chicago who helps run Electronic Intifada, said that he met Obama several times at Palestinian and Arab American community events. At one, a 2000 fundraiser at a private home, Obama called for the U.S. to take an “even-handed” approach toward Israel, Abunimah wrote in an article on the website last year. He did not cite Obama’s specific criticisms.

Abunimah, in a Times interview and on his website, said Obama seemed sympathetic to the Palestinian cause but more circumspect as he ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004. At a dinner gathering that year, Abunimah said, Obama greeted him warmly and said privately that he needed to speak cautiously about the Middle East.

Abunimah quoted Obama as saying that he was sorry he wasn’t talking more about the Palestinian cause, but that his primary campaign had constrained what he could say.

Poor Jews, Poor Palestinians, so tired, so desperate for hope, they listen to the flim flam man.

Poor Americans, so sick and tired of Bush, so desperate for hope, they listen to the flim flam man.

Obama, the flim flam man keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth:

Even as he won support in Chicago’s Palestinian community, Obama tried to forge ties with advocates for Israel.

In 2000, he submitted a policy paper to CityPAC, a pro-Israel political action committee, that among other things supported a unified Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a position far out of step from that of his Palestinian friends. The PAC concluded that Obama’s position paper “suggests he is strongly pro-Israel on all of the major issues.”

Obama can’t be trusted, by anyone.

Nationally, Obama continues to face skepticism from some Jewish leaders who are wary of his long association with his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., who had made racially incendiary comments during several sermons that recently became widely known. Questions have persisted about Wright in part because of the recent revelation that his church bulletin reprinted a Times op-ed written by a leader of Hamas.

One Jewish leader said he viewed Obama’s outreach to Palestinian activists, such as Said, in the light of his relationship to Wright.

“In the context of spending 20 years in a church where now it is clear the anti-Israel rhetoric was there, was repeated, . . . that’s what makes his presence at an Arab American event with a Said a greater concern,” said Abraham H. Foxman, national director for the Anti-Defamation League.

Spare yourselves grief. Reject both, or rather all, of Obama’s many faces. Don’t listen to words that come from any side of Obama’s mouth.

Obama’s words can’t be taken at face values – any of his faces.

Obama can’t be trusted.

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988 thoughts on “Barack Obama’s Two Faces and People Powered OUT Movement

  1. Thanks Admin for your usual high standards in investigative politics. After all this is done, you should get an award. If you do, we know it won’t be one from the DNC. It is certainly sickening that there is no place on the entire web but here, that we can get any real information about that crook of crooks, Barak Capone Obama.

    Many of us here on Big Pink have discovered during this nomination contest what some others have known for a long time, that the media is an agenda driven force that actively seeks to shape our worldview according to their own. On many issues and not just those touching on Hillary, the media has been providing us one-sided images according to their own creation. Technology, finance, and media empires now known as conglomerates, have made possible the control of information flow by a small elite group aligned with the neo-libs, now led by no other than yours truly, Barak Capone Obama. It’s scary.

    As evidence to back up my assertion, I offer this example. Living in China, I have had the opportunity to talk to many Tibetans about the situation there. I have been totally amazed at the differences between how they see it and what the neo-lib controlled media would like us to believe. For example, did many of us know that before the communists “liberated” Tibet (at the invitation of the Dali Lama) the Buddhists monasteries owned about 95% of the land? Or that all males were considered monastic serfs and could not move from the land without making a payment they could rarely afford? How about the fact that females were not even given the status of serfs, but were in effect legally enslaved (something about being reincarnated as a woman is considered punishment for some past life sins, I was told), bought and sold like cattle by the theocratic establishment. There is more. Most families were forced to donate at least one child to the local monastery/landlord to become monks/nuns, pressing this unlucky child into a life of involuntary celibacy. And talking about civil rights, persons guilty of serious crimes were executed by being tied naked to the ground in the mountains to be eaten alive by wild eagles. What was left of their skins was used for making the temple drums. This is not ancient but recent history. I was so amazed I did some real research to make sure my boots were not being stuffed. Actually I rarely wear boots because I wear pants suits, but this stuff checked out. More like the theocracy from hell.

    Tibetans tell me that the then young Dali Lama in 1951 invited Chairman Mao to send in the troops to quell some sort of dispute between the two main Buddhists sects. His won. That’s beside the point. But after the PLA arrived and saw the pitiful conditions of the people, they started making some changes, like freeing women from their status as slaves. We should not forget that in the early days of the People’s Republic of China, the communists made many positive changes like these before absolute power corrupted their revolutionary ideals. Eventually as the normal Tibetan folks started to get some rights, they started to question the system. Never a smart thing to do in a dictatorship. The result was the Tibetan government decided life would be better off without the Chinese and their modern ways and staged the unsuccessful 1959 revolt, resulting in the fall of the theocracy and self-imposed exile in India for the Dali Lama and friends.

    Tibetans living in Beijing tell me that the current fight is not really between China and the Dali Lama but between the old regime (and their kids) living in exile and the new bunch of secular Tibetans in charge of the place now. Obviously both groups crave for the privileges that come with exercising power. Sounds more like a combination of a Marx Brothers movie and Shakespearean tragedy.

    What has bothered me most is why have not the folks in America and Europe been told any of these things? Why the gross deception on the part of the media about Tibet? Maybe the answer lies in the fact that for some strange reason, Tibet has been taken up as one of the causes of the rising neo-libs and their allies within the Democratic Party, much like Iraq was for the neo-cons. We all know by now thow the neo-libs control the media through this experience as Clinton supporters. We are only allowed to get their version of any story. If Obama gets to the White House (please heaven don’t let this happen) we may be moving our troops from Afghanistan just over the Himalayas into Tibet. I wonder what the true story is about Darfur.

  2. Admin, what a great post and paddy4hill I’ve known for a long time that we have a problem in this country with propaganda and not a informed electorate.

    We need to change the rules back where they were before President Reagan came on the scene and deregulated the media by the removal of the FCC fairness doctrine of 1987. I think that did more damage then anything else.

    Support this issue:
    Media Ownership Reform Act (MORA)
    The Media Ownership Reform Act seeks to restore integrity and diversity to America’s media system by lowering the number of media outlets that one company is permitted to own in a single market. The bill also reinstates the Fairness Doctrine to protect fairness and accuracy in journalism.

    http://www.house.gov/hinchey/issues/mora.shtml

  3. Hi carbynew,

    What is the status of MORA? Is there any real chance for this passing anytime soon? Sounds like a Russ Feingold kind of bill. After this year’s nomination media farce, I can certainly see the need for something like this. Thanks for the information.

  4. WOW, ADMIN! Excellent research! I really am scared of him.
    Here’s a small portion of what I posted April 9th after I saw an ABC story CHANGED from negative to positive coverage of obama within minutes! They’re scrubbing everything!
    I hope it’s not too long.
    basil9 Says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
    OMGAWDDDDDDD! I CAN”T BELIEVE IT! The critical Obama headline has been CHANGED to “Obama Sets Conditions for Bush Olympics Boycott!!!!”
    WTF! 10 minutes ago the headline was “Obama Ducks Olympic Critics.” JEEEEEZUS! What are we up against here! not a SINGLE word of disagreement is allowed to be spoken, written or videoed! And it’s not like this is just a follow-up piece. the FIRST article has already disappeared! WE are so screwed unless we get HRC in the WH!
    Yup. The first critical article (or at least the headline) has disappeared down the rabbit hole. Now he’s saying what HRC said yesterday and there’s no trace of his “Ducking” the issue except at Google. MyDD already has a diary up “It’s hard to tell your Banker he’s wrong.”
    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/9/181442/7931

    I think I’m losing my mind! Check this out. The first headline vs the second headline by the same reporter switched within minutes of the first article being posted on ABC. They OWN the internet.
    1.
    ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: Barack Obama doesn’t seem to want to talk about the Olympics or Senator Clinton’s call for a boycott of the opening ceremonies on August 8, 2008.
    2.
    ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: In his strongest language to date about the Olympics, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said that President Bush should boycott the opening ceremonies of if the Chinese do not take steps to stop the genocide in Darfur and respect the human rights of Tibetan people
    Obama DUcks . . . was posted by Sunlen Miller on April 9 at 3:25.
    “Obama Calls on Bush to Boycott . . . was posted by Sunlen Miller on April 9 at 7:02.
    I just don’t think that’s coincidence.
    • basil9 Says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
    Since no one seems to think this is a big deal I’ll drop it after this comment about BO’s connection to the Olympics from;
    “It’s hard to tell your Banker he’s wrong.”
    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/9/181442/7931
    ‘The junior Senator from Illinois has a particularly tricky balancing act when it comes to the subject of the Olympics: Chicago is vying to host the 2016 games and one of Obama’s top campaign advisors and close friends, Valerie Jarrett, is the vice chair of Chicago’s bid committee.’

  5. PADDY,
    Another brilliant analysis! That is fascinating. I knew something about Tibetan customs and tradition, but I always thought it was only the dead who were thrown on rocks to be eaten by eagles. i didn’t realize it was prisoners, too!
    i also didn’t know the status or, rather, the non-status of women. I’d assumed it couldn’t be very high as the monastaries are all male, but i did’t know they are still ‘property.”
    Do you have any links to that material?
    BTW – your description of the media circus is dead on. It’s no longer just the military industrial complex but the military-industriall-ENTERTAINMENT complex. 👿

  6. Hi basil,

    I guess when in Tibet, the key is to keep a keen look out for those hungry birds. Must be slim pickings these days!

    Most of the interesting research info I found was here in China. I verified lots of it via personal interviews with Tibetans since I always don’t trust Chinese sources on these kinds of sensitive topics. They have an agenda too. But I do remember a couple of good books about “pre-liberation” Tibet in English in some bookstores in Hong Kong. You can also do an internet search of Beijing Review, China Daily, maybe some Taiwan publications too. It is hard to find objective items in the western media concerning Tibet for the reasons cited. In fact, it is difficult to get to the bottom of any story these days.

    The era of Big Brother (notice it is not a sister) has arrived. All the more reason to support Hillary Clinton. The world needs a woman in the White House.

  7. talk about back peddling heres a post on mydd that says BHO campaign “changed” their minds on the CA delegate issue. as one poster put it…it’s a flip flop

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/10/234912/757

    There has been an extraordinary outpouring of grassroots support for Senator Obama among Democrats and Independents in all 53 California Congressional districts.

    In recognition of this tremendous enthusiasm, our campaign has asked the California Democratic Party to allow all persons who have filed to be a district delegate candidate for Senator Obama at the Democratic National Convention to participate in the caucuses this Sunday, April 13, 2008.

    We are confident that delegates elected from this pool will reflect the Senator’s commitment to a diverse and unified delegation at the National Convention.

    An overwhelming number of supporters have signed up to run for delegate, so there will likely be lines and tight space at the caucus locations. We ask for everyone’s patience and cooperation.

    Most of all, please enjoy this opportunity to meet other Obama supporters and elect delegate candidates to the Convention in Denver.

    If you have any questions, please contact Daryl Sprague at dsprague@barackobama.com.

    Thanks for your interest and active participation in Barack’s campaign to change politics and change America.

    David

    David Plouffe
    Campaign Manager
    Obama for America

  8. There’s a fascinating meta-physical pamphlet by the weird and wacky Alexandra David Neel written during her time in Tibet (around 1920) called “The Secret teachings of Tibetan Buddhist Sects.” It was fascinating. I’ve read a lot of her stuff (which of course you have to approach with a big dose of skepticism,) as well as Chogyam Trungpa and various authors on the subject of Chinese foot-binding.

    I agree about the BM BB morph. And Obama and crew have their fingers on that button. Diya read my post up thread about how the ABC article, the first one critical of Obama that I’ve seen, was CHANGED to a positive report within hours? Hitler-Jungen, brownshirt, Gestapo tactics in the US. 😈

  9. Basil,
    Posted in last thread very late, not sure you saw it.

    Excellent get on BM taking their foot off the gas in terms of overall coverage.
    I’ve noticed it before, and certainly now, and as I said I believe it to be intended to lessen the impact of PA.
    If they don’t play it up (and isn’t it an enormous contrast to the absolutely breathless ‘coverage’ we’ve had until now?),
    they don’t have to weigh or give Hill credit.
    Not that they would anyway.
    They’ll just change the subject, make like it never happened, just like Tx & OH and CA and NH, etc.

    Lastly, after working all day & night, I noticed in the few minutes I had to tune in a lot of talk about Iran again making the rounds, apparently after Bush made a few threatening about Iraq.
    wondering how you think it plays out. Haven’t seen any CinC poll numbers lately, put assuming it helps our girl politically.
    It is of course no way to run foreign policy – but I can’t do everything!

  10. basil, I also read the Neel book many many moons ago. I really liked it from what I remember. So funny that you have read it too! I haven’t thought about that book for a long time, but perhaps it had some influence since I really enjoy going to Tibetan Buddhist temples. They all seem to have such wonderful fengshui. The qi is so strong inside.

    You are so very right. The antics of the Obama camp do really resemble a high tech version of the SA brown shirts bullies. The similarities are so striking. Certainly does not seem very much like the Age of Aquarius. Maybe the world is developing too fast for humans to keep it all together. Too much money and power concentrating too fast. Maybe its time to re-read Vladimir Lenin’s “Imperialism, the Final Stage of Capitalism.”
    For sure, it is not a good time to put someone as inexperienced as Obama in the White House. I really can’t believe that Americans can be so stupid to even consider this guy. Didn’t the lessons from Bush sink in at all?

  11. I am fed up with the MSM drive to discredit,embarass,and deny Hillary Rodham Clinton,her right to express herself and conduct a fair presentation of her agenda and her views on this country’s numerous problems. The media rat packs deny her the courtesy of being heard and also refer to her as Mrs..She is a highly respected Senator and should be addressed as such.Most of the jealous woman that keep being hired by the cowardly men anchors to do the catty dirty work for them,seem to have more boobs,cleavage,miniskirts,legs than brains.I have been making progress in my boycott of MSNBC,CNN,FOX and local stations.Newspapers and Magazines,Journals have roots that bind all of these crocks together.It is aso time to realize just how many of these pundit are descend from on Middle east country.Don’t dare divulge my location.My Hillary sign was destroyed,my expensive mailboxes have been torched and i fear for my safety,for the first time in my 90 yrs.The worst is still to come,unless Hillary is chosen to be the 44th President and the First Woman in our history to do so.

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE “

  12. Blue Dem,
    I really AM on media blackout except for this site and a bit of FOX now and then so I haven’t been keeping up with the Iran/Iraq developments. I DO recall hearing that BO recently confused IRAN with IRAQ but did we hear anything about THAT? Nooooooo … and this despite the HUGE issue made of McCain’s confusing Shite and Sunni.

    ‘I’ve noticed it before, and certainly now, and as I said I believe it to be intended to lessen the impact of PA.’

    Yup. That’s what I 6think. BO’s pumping truckloads of cash into the state HOPING for a victory but they’re hedging their bets. Either way, according to BM, they will win. If they actually DO get the most votes it will be a HUGE UPSET and if they lose it will be oh well, they didn’t expect to have a strong showing there anyway.

  13. ok time to hit the hay. the sun will be up in about 7 hours. thank goodness its Friday night and can sleep in tomorrow!

  14. Paddy,
    ‘A high-tech version of the SA brownshirts.’
    How about:
    The internet Browns.
    The Tech Browns
    Uh-OH – better be careful. Someone’s likely to post that they’re offended by my use of the word ‘brown.’ 😈
    About Neel – she was a crazy clairvoyant but her descriptions of some of the rituals she witnessed were really striking! I also frequent a wonderful Buddhist Temple here in the Catskills. Love the Hall of 500 Buddhas.

  15. Air America will be using actor/activist Richard Belzer to fill in for the now-departed Randi Rhodes.
    Belzer (who I don’t want to villify unecessarily) is, if memory serves, a pathetic knob-polisher for BO.

    Pretty sure I wanted to Elvis the TV last time I tuned into Bill Mahrer and he was on, spewing.

    Anyway, AAR is friggin dead. Better we should find out now I suppose, but the matter of infrastructure, D v R, is no small one.

  16. ABM,
    Your mailbox was TORCHED? OMG! Have you reported this to the FBI?

    About the women “Anchorettes:” I agree. They’re just eye candy and yet they take themselves so seriously. The trivialization of female intellect by presenting these bimbos in high visibility positions and then having them deliver the so-called news in those perky cheer-leader voices with those perky boobs and plastic teeth-whitened smiles and tan-can glow. The only ones I respect are Greta (and you notice SHE’S not on primetime – not cheerleaderish) and . . . . . well, I can’t think of anyone else. That’s sad. 🙁

    thought

  17. PA “Street Money” Obama Won’t PAY!!

    w w w . latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-streetmoney11apr11,1,218781.story

    this is a 2 page article……. worth the read IMHO 😀

    Barack Obama may lose support in Philadelphia over ‘street money’

    Candidates traditionally get out the money to get out the vote. That sets up a culture clash for the April 22 primary.
    By Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    April 11, 2008
    Fourteen months into a campaign that has the feel of a movement, Sen. Barack Obama has collided with the gritty political traditions of Philadelphia, where ward bosses love their candidates, but also expect them to pay up.

    The dispute centers on the dispensing of “street money,” a long-standing Philadelphia ritual in which candidates deliver cash to the city’s Democratic operatives in return for getting out the vote.

  18. ABM,

    who ever torched your mailboxes is on their way to prison, it is a “FEDERAL OFFENSE” even if you bought it, it belongs to the government. Hope you are having your local postmaster look into this, as well as local and fed officials.

  19. basil9
    “Uh-OH – better be careful. Someone’s likely to post that they’re offended by my use of the word ‘brown.’ ”

    isn’t this getting pathetic. I’m so sick of questioning every damn thing I say so as not to offend the slightest of senses. I have always been respectful of other cultures and ethnicities and to have this throw in my face just irks me beyond all.

  20. It’s terrible the way ABM90 is being treated by the Obama thugs. I hope she isn’t harmed. This stuff is going on all over in one way or another. If that guy ever got into office, I wonder who they would be trying to intimidate next. It would probably have to be anyone of influence in and out of government. They will want to enact whatever weird policies they support, and I believe they have a partly hidden agenda. I echo others who’ve said BHO really scares me. I worry about our country. We have to stop him from winning the White House.

    Meanwhile I feel very frustrated about the MSM and their treatment of Hillary. I can only comment here and there, but some of you are writing great blogs. We can also continue to contribute. All of that has to continue, but it’s like trying to hold back the tide. The media is so powerful. I don’t want them to ever pick our president. I don’t recall a time when they seemed to be marching in lock step this way.

    I suspect some of the people who generally post here are merely lurking and reading until we can see some reason for hope that all Hillary and her team is going to work. I’m confident it can, but it’s going to be an uphill climb all the way. I’m going all the way with her.

    B. Merryfield is doing a great job, but it seems as if it all falls short just a bit. The media is not going to do their jobs and go to work on it. It will take some big development to make a difference.

    Okay, I will stop whining now. This fight is worth winning, and it isn’t over yet.

  21. Clinton Outlines Anti-Crime Plan

    By CHARLES BABINGTON
    Associated Press Writer
    5:16 AM EDT, April 11, 2008

    PHILADELPHIA

    Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton is proposing to spend $4 billion a year on anti-crime measures, including programs meant to reduce the number of ex-convicts who return to prison.

    The money also would help communities hire more police officers and “community-oriented prosecutors.”

    Under the New York senator’s plan, to be detailed Friday in a speech in Philadelphia, states would compete for $1 billion in annual grants to combat recidivism. It would “promote tough but fair” changes to probation practices and to existing programs meant to steer non-violent drug offenders away from prison, her presidential campaign said in an outline provided early Friday.

    The goal is to make punishment more certain for those who violate their probation, while also enhancing efforts to help former drug users stay clean and thereby avoid prison, campaign aides said.

    They said Clinton would pay for the $4 billion initiative with savings to be identified by a commission she will assign to “identify unnecessary and outdated corporate subsidies for elimination.” Groups that oppose deficit spending urge campaigns to be more specific in saying how they will pay for new programs.

    Clinton’s plan would hire 100,000 new police officers “to address crime, through a modernized personnel grant program.” It would spend $250 million a year on “community-oriented prosecutors.”

    Compared to earlier presidential campaigns, especially those in the 1970s, this year’s contest has focused relatively scant attention on crime, with the Iraq war and economic woes dominating the debate. Clinton, noting that violent crime has begun to rise after several years of decline, will focus on the subject Friday as she competes with Sen. Barack Obama for votes in Pennsylvania’s April 22 primary.

  22. what happened to the demonstation??? can’t find any news on it

    New York City
    Friday, April 11 (8am), 2008
    West 48th St & Rockefeller Plaza

  23. Paddyrhill,

    Yu have just regurgiated a mountain of chinese propaganda.

    I am a tibetan buddhist. The dailai lama has talked of some of the abuses in the Tibetan system and was moving to reform the system when the Chinese decided to just wipe Tibetans out.

    Thousands of monks killed,monastaries burned and gutted, the Tibetan people enslaved in their own country, children taken from Tibetan parents and forced to go to China for re-education. I am so incensed by what you have put forward here. Do
    you think people in Daramsala and Tibetans around the world are so crazy that they are fighting to bring back a corrupt and damaging system?

    talk about hopium. Yu have veen drinkingthe chinese version. Yur sources are biased and inaccurate. Please stop!

  24. Debbie,
    “Frankly, my dear, i don’t give a d@mn” about what anyone says or thinks about the way I express myself. I will NOT be bound by cultural sensitivity that is not mine when discussing different ethnicities, as long as I don’t use commonly regarded “Offensive Language” like swear words.
    Last time I checked we still had Freedom of Expression. But we better be on our guards. Today the words “fairytale”, “kid”, “Monkey” and “Hussein are banned. How many more words will be added to the list as time passes?
    And I found it incredibly AMUSING that some poster on another site had a problem with the reference to Brazille as Brillohead. These people have NO sense of humor and they examine EVERY single comment, EVERY l;ast word for potential criticism of their candidate. I believe it’s called MIND CONTROL and my mind, puny as it is, belongs to ME!.

  25. Tibetan death and burial rituals have been misunderstood for centuries which is why tourists are forbidden in places like Lhasa from viewing the ‘graveyards.”

  26. henry,

    Went to the site and there is no mention of the protest.

    Debbie – Hope you didn’t think I was ranting at you! I agree completely with yours comment;

    ‘isn’t this getting pathetic. I’m so sick of questioning every damn thing I say so as not to offend the slightest of senses.’

  27. What the hell does Tibetan culture hve to do with getting Hillayr the nomination? I am just so incensed at this propaganda on here.

  28. Debbie Thank you for your concern.I live out in the so called sticks and alone.Just cannot tell who was resposible.I have had to replace my box 6 times in 20 yrs.Rported to the locals and was told that it no doubt was a childish prank and the beer can littering is always aproblem.Too old to assume another problem.My whole concern now is to do battle for Hillary.She is our National Treasure and I will fight for her with my computer aand with whatever I can donate.Mental energy is about all that I have plenty of REMEMBER.

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE “

  29. Attention : Bmerry and Admin…..this is right up your ally & needing investigation!

    Obama’s sub prime mortgage http://taxmanblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/obamas-sub-prime-mortgage.html
    After reviewing Obama’s tax returns, I started asking the question. When did Obama buy the house that’s been the subject of the Rezko controvery.

    The answer? June 2005.

    Yet, if you look at the Obamas’ 2004 tax return you’ll see that their income for that year was $207,000. The home in question cost the Obama’s 1.5 million.

    So let me make sure I have this right. Around January, the Obama’s work with a real estate agent and tell him/her they’re looking for a cozy 4 bedroom in the 1.0 – 1.5 million dollar price range and the agent pre qualifies them with these income numbers? Then they’re able to find this home make a offer and close by June.

    By the way, where did they get a down payment for a home of this size? Their tax returns show no interest or dividend income for the year so they had no savings.

    What mortgage company in their right mind would loan someone that kind of dough on that income?

    Most real estate agents will tell you that you really can’t afford a home that exceeds 3 times your annual income; Obama’s was well over seven times. What gives?

    Given that Obama was elected to the senate in 2004 and received his book deal in 2005, a banker could use that income as evidence of future ability to pay. Even Michelle’s additional income could be included. But a year ahead of time? I know when I qualified for my last mortgage they wanted three years of tax returns to show that my income was stable. I think a broker would laugh at me if I brought returns like these in for a 1.5 million dollar house.

    Obama has been using this quote lately in his stump speech
    The top mortgage lenders spend $185 million lobbying Congress, and we wonder why Washington looked the other way when they were tricking families into buying homes they couldn’t afford.
    Were the Obama’s some of these people? Or did Rezko grease some skids to get them their mortgage? Why is no one in the main stream media asking these questions?
    Posted by gordon gekko at 9:18 PM

    Highlighting some of the comments from this article : they bring up a lot of good questions!!

    “Real question is how did Obama only pay 16K on 1.7 million dollar (including 100K purchased from Rezko) Chicago home.
    Chicago property taxes are about twice that.”
    “Michelle “Big Mouth” Obama said they used the proceeds from the books of Osama’s to pay off their student loans. There was an article out just yesterday in which she said that.”
    “I am a Real Estate Broker and my husband is a mortgage banker so this is highly questionable. The answer IS Tony Rezco and the Iraqi Billionaire
    Auchi.”

    “ Mortgages are public documents. Someone from the area should go check it out.”
    “In my mind, the timing needs to be documented. I just can’t walk in and buy a 1.5 million dollar house on a potential lottery winning.
    When did they pursue the home?
    When did they receive approval on their mortgage and on what income?
    When did their 2005 book deal advance get issued or committed to by the publisher?
    Given the deal with this home as it relates to his association with Tony Rezko, I believe these questions are worth asking and receiving answers.”

  30. I was at the NYC demonstration, earlier this am from 8 – 9am. The cops were ready for this, and put up a long, narrow corral down 48th street – nowhere near where the action is on the plaza. The group was pretty small, but vocal when I got there – about 50 or so men and women with great signs. But the cops refused to let anyone out of the pen with signage, and refused to let any of them walk anywhere on the plaza, or near the Today show crowd. Just incredible. There were a few international media people interviewing some people, but no US media as far as I could see. Why am I surprised that a protest about media bias gets suppressed by the media? I expect more people may have shown up after I left for work, but the placement of the corral made it impossible for the protest to really generate the kind of attention it should have.

  31. Clinton campaign needs to get that money to the ward leaders quick. Obama and Axelrod may know Chicago politics, but seem to know squat about Philadelphia politics. Ward learders can be the difference from Obama winning Philadelphia by 20 points or barely squeaking by. If Hillary gets the ward leaders obama will not blow her out in the city.

  32. Linfar,I am interested in all cultures. I saw a National Geographic Special recently that featured a look at the monastaries and some of their traditions. It was fascinating. I’ve also read some about the customs.

    Personally, I LIKE the idea of being fed to wild birds after death. It seems a more rational use of the body once the spirit is gone to be used to sustain other life than being buried in the earth where you get eaten anyway by worms and bugs.
    But that’s just me.
    Anyway, that’s a philosophical matter and I won’t take up space here. BTW, I think Paddy’s gone to bed. It’s 12 or 1 where she is. And I don’t know enough about the political situation in Tibet to comment on it.

  33. rjk1957, this is why Mayor Nutter’s endorsement is so crucial. Nutter can put that machine to work for Hillary.

    Chicago does not run the Philly wards. Philly does.

  34. positively,
    BUMMER about the protest but you make a great point: Why would the MEDIA cover n event about Media Bias? 👿

    ABM,
    Is there an HRC group in the state you can contact and ask for assistance in terms of legal protection?
    I am so sorry this is happening to you. Be careful and be safe. practice.
    ALL,
    Money Bar is up again at HRC’s site. I’m gonna donate another 25.44.

  35. Obama’s camp seems to think that the AA vote will carry him to an easy victory in the city, but if he wants to win the stae he has to win Philly by a wide margin. I grew up watching Philly politics and the ward leaders run the neighborhoods and race does not matter when it comes to you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.

  36. RJK,

    It sounds like NJ politics (arguably the most corrupt in the country).

    I’m sure Nutter must be on the case.

    That’s GOOD for HRC. 😀

  37. Of course. They’ll report it – as a negative for Hill.

    protestshave increasingly been minimized. Bloomberg argued in court not to let protestors in Central Park for the RNC in 04 because they’d just re-seeded the grass, and he won!

    They had protestors fenced in, which kind of defeats the purpose.

  38. Basil, appreciate your response.

    Just so much misinformation gets passed off as fact these days.

    The obamabots are now accusing me of being a liar and making it all up about my Mom on my diary: Mom mom NNeeds Hillary

    It makes you crazy. This is what they do to the big dog and I feel like, he does, I want to lash out. Tell them off, et.

    doesn’t help tho.

    Hillar posters now have a policy on mydd: no feeding thetrolls 🙂

  39. Admin

    Now that I have calmed down 🙂 Nice intro and roundup. I think Schweitzer in Montana is amazing–this is real change–and he don’t care much for Obama.

    Alos, admin, anyone else–are you following sinclair story in Puerto Rico–apparently big story there. this is they guy who says he had a homosexual affair with Obama, and some are sayhing thuis is also why the young guy in the choir at Obama’s church was killed.

    I know it sounds like supermarket tab loid stuff.

    But what if, huh? What if…

  40. linfar
    I heard on talk radio this morning Obamatrons asking what is she hiding now implying that the campaign torched her office in IN. I hope it was arson and Obama supporters are arrested for it. Just to wake people up to the type of supporters he has. Before anyone jumps down my throat, I am not saying Obama supporters set the fire, for all we know someone didn’t turn off the coffee machine.

  41. linfar, I read your diary about your mom yesterday, it was a beautiful story! If those bots are accusing you of lying, then I would think those bots are republican members of AMA. I think anything medical that is being called a lie would be those folks that will be hurt the most if Hillary is the nominee. The American Medical Association.They don’t realize that they will not be hurt, Hillary plan will help all of those who work in the medical field. I have spoken to many doctors that I work with and all mistrust Hillary. They think her plan is only a percursor to universal health care!
    What makes me mad is that these people can access medical care and do not know what its like not to be able to. MOst of these doctors forgot their oath many years ago and some only get in medicine to become millionaires, they could give a crap about those who can’t afford them!

  42. blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/04/inside_an_obama_speech.html

    Austan Goolsbee, of the infamous Canadian NAFTA-gaffe, is still an active advisor on economic policy on the BO team.

    Lynn Sweet publishes this email from Obama’s speechwriter, and attached is an email soliciting input and email addresses include Goolsbee

  43. Linfar,

    I checked the video yesterday. BO is TOAST in PR! They do not care WHAT color anyone is – they have such a mixed diverse culture – and they sure as heck aren’t worried about being called racist. Heck, the people are every shade in the human skin pallette. They are gonna go after this big time!

    hehehehe

  44. rjk – I wouldn’t be surprised if it was arson. Of course, let’s see what the investigation finds…but given what many of us saw and heard about even in TX – the physical intimidation of Clinton supporters by Obama supporters at caucuses, the trashing and vandalism of Hillary signs by Obamabots, I wouldn’t be surprised if it were foul play re: that Indiana campaign office.

    my car was vandalized in a very public area, and I suspect, why it was my car instead of the countless others parked in front of countless businesses – my Hillary bumper sticker – and the witnesses who saw this – noted that the people who did this were 18 or 19 yrs old. ABM’s Hillary signs trashed and mailbox torched…

  45. I think you have a real good pt. confloyd. I am just not used to being alled a liar. It makes me angry. I have railed against these kids of tactics, but was never on the receiveing end before. they do work 🙁

  46. confloyd, did you know that the VAST majority of physicians are not even members of the AMA? Most docs can’t stand them, or their politics.

    Even among those who join, they do it because the need the contact and discounts for seminars, etc. The AMA DOES NOT represent the opinions of most docs in this country. They are always touted in the media as if they do, and it’s a total lie.

    Most are actually in favor of universal healthcare, and an even bigger majority want reform and some kind of discount government-subsidized insurance for folks, even if it’s not completely universal.

    Trust me, your average doctor is bearing the burden of the failed healthcare system in this country. Your average plumber makes more than your average Family Practice Physician, with fewer administrative headaches and much less liability, risk, and expenses. I know – I’m married to one. They certainly make far less than your typical lawyer.

    It is the elite few, the millionaire, limited-clientele uber-specialist docs who are driving the AMA, and its politics. The problem is that the media paints them as speaking for all
    doctors.

  47. rjk, I didn’t realize it was her ofice that got burned. Damn I wish the obominations would get nailed for it.

  48. rjk,
    Haven’t read the book but the title suggests it’s about the mob, no?

    About the IN fire; did you see the video? The flames were bursting through the roof, in a central location, within minutes of the fire being reported! And one of the womens cars was totally burned. I don’t know much about fire categorization but it sure looked like there was an explosion of some kind. Anyway, check the link from dedfg;

    http://www.wthitv.com/global/story.asp?s=8151421

    Linfar,

  49. Linfar,

    That’s obscene that your diary is being questioned. Those mf’s.
    As I’m at the tale end of intense medical treatment, I know how difficult it is, not only for the person afflicteed but by theri caretakers to deal with things. I haven’t read your diary because I fogured I’d get too upset. Let’s say I have had to fight tooth and nail for care I’ve never before needed and which I’ve paid for and which may have been withheld if I hadn’t contested every obstacle put up by my inurance company.

    Health Care is a red button for me but when I’m more calm about that I will read your diary. BTW, don’t know if you;’re familiar with this site but medhelp.org has lots of support groups for sufferers of many diseases and their caregivers. I know there’s one for Alzheimers. The site helped me cope with the past year and a half.

    And DON’T let those FOOLS over at MYDD stop you from posting!

  50. With Obama spending 2.2 million a week in Penn on TV, it is no wonder we are only up by 5-7%. The media is going to call any victory less than 10% a major win for BO.

  51. RJK,

    I NEED a couple of laughs I’m gonna see if the library will order it for me.

    FWIW (and NO offense to any ITALIANS’ on forum) but after a couple of years in an urban NJ school system I realized I was working in soprano-land, in a district run by the Fat Italian Wives CLub and honorary Members. 👿

    (Tiny Dancer – you KNOW I’m just being sarcastic.) hehehe.

  52. I hope she is able to hang on and pull this out. where are you seeing 5 to 7 percent. still two weeks to go to. gosh, she really needs major $ right now.

  53. Thanks Sherm Kader for your concern.Got to make a correction about myself.I am MALE 90 year old.I am a decorated 4 yr WWII Vet Widower.Still do all my own housework,mowing, driving,shopping and taught myself to use and enjoy my PC.Have to use the “Hunt Punch andMiss System with the keyboard”.This old dog can still hunt as BC likes to say.My admiration for Hillary,drives me to stay on message,stay on course and help to make her our FIRST WOMAN 44th PRESIDENT
    OF THE UNITED STATES.I don’t have time or money to waste on DYING. Just glad I can Blog to my hearts content and say

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE ”

    And perhaps the world. By (Mr. ABM90 )

  54. AMB, you should write a diary about your life, what you’ve been through and why you support Hillary and post it on mydd

  55. jbstone,
    I agree but I also have come to the conclusion that the media coverage doesn’t really matter with HRC. She takes her case directly to the people. And the people don’t watch much BM, anyway. Sure, young adults, teenagers and other assorted obamabots hang on his every word but I think in the upcoming states she has a great chance of winning, especially since Maggie Williams is now advising her.

    I’m very optimistic about her chances. The Media is digging themselves a grave they won’t be able to crawl out of once this nominating process has ended. It’s gonna be all FOX all the time. I prefer that. At least they’re not hypocritical enough to seriously claim, despite their ‘fair and balanced’ slogan, to be professional journalists. :mrgreen:

  56. don’t even listen to those ridiculous polls….

    check out this great Pennsylvania support for HILL!!!

    post-gazette.com/pg/08102/872386-457.stm

  57. I just want to congratulate all of you for being so absolutely civil under the circumstances. (the media bias, the BHO lies, the personal attacks etc.)

    I surely would expect a lot more anger from you guys but you have a lot of class.

    I suppose I shouldn’t even notice this because as Hillary supporters we do “rise” well above the mentally challenged groupies of BHO (aka the JackAss Movie crowd).

  58. Debbie,

    ‘something to celebrate’.

    You think that’s related to HRC supporters boycotting their products?

  59. well probably not significant enough to make this difference as other market influences have more priority, but I’m still glad

  60. basil9

    I don’t want any of the companies to die as we need to keep people employed, but I sure want them to hurt like hell even for just a little while.

  61. Just a thought,

    we are facing, gender, race and age issues in this election. not only is this a first, but these are protected classes under our constitution and the least protected in our society.

    Well I decided I ain’t voting for anyone “with balls” 😆

  62. I firmly believe that Hill will win PA by 10-12 points or more. Even inside notes from Obambi’s camp point to this possibility. The General Election argument will be further cemented by this victory. Indiana is a must win.

  63. I also think Hill should pull out of NC entirely. There is no progress being made there that I can see. That state is too demographically suited for Obambi. Lot’s of Koolaid, AA’s, and Colleges.

  64. Kaffeen – re: NC – campaigns internal polling showing she’s within statistical difference of catching up to BO. I’ll email you more.

  65. The PA polls are crap! How many times have we heard “Obama’s making his move!” – Was it in NH, or CA, or MA, or maybe it was OH and TX? They tailor the data to fit, just like they tailor the news. CRAP-O-LA. I for one am convinced Hill will blow through Obama with a double digit margin in PA.

  66. kaffeen,

    I agree she’s gonna win PA. That this rumor about him taking the state is circulating so widely points to extreme fear on the part of his campaign. (IMHO).

    I’m so glad I took the advice of some here who said to turn off the TV. I am much calmer now that I don’t have to fend off the BO psychic vampires. 😈

  67. I would love to see some progress in NC. I had hoped for an upset there, but there is no data that I have uncovered to support this. Please send me any positive news there.

  68. About polls: SUSA has been the most accurate. It’s incredible how EVERY SINGLE TIME Hillary is supposed to get a double digit victory all of a sudden the polls “tighten”. I’m betting Hill takes PA by 14pts.

  69. kaffeen,
    I don’t think HRC can pull out of anywhere now, not if she wants to close the gap. BO will probably win NC, but I do think Hill can keep within 10pts. Otherwise, she’d have Ace Smith somewhere else.

  70. You guys need to see this video, right now. I have no idea if this is true (any of it, including Larry Sinclair’s original story), but if it is true (and can be shown to be true), Obama is done:

    http://www.villarrealsports.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=358

    A quick summary: Sinclair, the guy who supposedly was the man involved in the limo tryst with Obama, says that Obama had another gay lover — who went to Trinity Church — and the guy was killed in 2007, possibly because of this supposed connection with Obama.

    Admin, if you think this is worth a penny, please feel free to appropriate the YouTube video.

    Out for now.

    🙂

  71. Listen all my blogger friends.I know free speech is perhaps one of our greatest freedoms,but I getting quite upset withe all the filthy low brow language being expressed in quite a few discussions.I have heard them all and nothing surprises me because I use them now and then and only when I am alone and that hammer,door jamb,cabinet drawer,bed stead doesn’t want to get out of my way.Seriously,I would love to know that young people can experience the wisdom,the frustrations,and the concerns of real people getting involved in our country’s History and it’s Future through the Electoral process.What a learning experience for young healthy minds..Has its place and time that one might want to express themselves,but it also projects a lack of responsibility and culture. Let’s clean it up folks.Hillary will do her part with the Bush mess.

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE ”

    By ABM90 Glad to be aboard

  72. Obama had to retrack his decision to purge off all the anti-war progressive and other and only use his bundlers was a big mistake in California that will NOT repair the damage.

    The word is out on this CON man and even if the same people on the list still are the delegate…he’s TOAST in California. Why do you think Barbara Boxer announced her support for Hillary, it’s because they know they have been used by the Chicago set and finally wiped the “fairy dust” out of their eyes.

    Obama has NOT promise or commit to anything to anybody, in fact he has done the opposite by being a Pied Piper playing the same tune to every group while he drops them over the clip and into the sea of HOPE or CHANGE. It’s laughable how people only hear and see what THEY choose to see even when the candidate constantly make excuses for lying to them.

    Well, all the purge obama activist need to get used to being disappointed in Sen. Obama because it’s not going to get any better…in fact this is only the begining.

    Like we’ve said before….follow the money and look at his advisors and see the corporations attached to him and see the kind of loopholes in his policy proposals that makes them worthless.

    Just like his Healthcare…you can drive a tank thru all the loopholes Obambi has in his Healthcare policy and since I’d worked for over twenty years for a “Financial Delievery System”…i.e. Heathcare Insurance company (that’s the name they call themselves at WallStreet), Obama’s plan benefit the Insurance company over the patient, on this I have NO doubt.

  73. Carby: Boxer said, she would give her SD vote to the candidate who won CA. She said this, before Super Tuesday. I don’t think, it has anything to do with the latest incident.

  74. hillaryfortexas; I am a x-ray tech and work at a local hospital in texas. Last night while I was working my er doctor ask me to x-ray one of his patients and said he would read me the latest nasty story about hillary in the wall street journal while I was doing the exam. I told him no thanks, but I take this taunting everyday at work. Everyone there knows I am an avid Hillary supportor and most think I am studpid for backing her. I don’t care, I just consider the source. They really just listen to the media for their political knowledge and you know what that gets them!

  75. thepage-begala calls penn a rumsfeld that should be fired not demoted. i agree. bo is using penn’s remaining with the campaign today. hillary-get rid of this guy. its a distraction. bo’s ass should have been kicked long ago.

  76. confloyd: The media is a joke, and I don’t take anything, they say, seriously. That physician who read that story to you, should not have doing that at work. So, he was reading the story in front of a patient??? That is unethical and unprofessional. There should be a hospital regulation against political activity in the work setting.

  77. bill has brought up bosnia 2 times in two days. hillry told him not to discuss it. bill-if u want hill to win this battle listen to hill. this is again another distraction we dont need!

  78. confloyd
    i am positive your hospital recieves some govt funding and as such has to remain neutral in politics. look into filing a complaint.

  79. birdgal, I told him no, I did not want to hear it or see it. He taunts me all the time! I just consider the source. The Doctor is a republican and a Bushite, he does not like John McCain. He is just a mess and I discount him totally.

  80. Confloyd
    he should not and is not legally allowed to exhibit such behaivor. you may be a person confident in your opinions but how many underlings may this man persuade with his abusive of authority?

  81. as a lesbian it makes me sick that we would use Larry Sinclair to take BHO down. Its like saying to me and all my fellow glbt friends…you’re only ok as long as we say you are, but hey…if it stirs up criticism for BHO..don’t mind if I step on your toes or spit in your face to achieve the goal do ya?

    I resent the implications made that somehow having a gay tryst is a bad thing.

    what is bad if true, is his infidelity, his lies about drug use, or any possible connection to the death of a gay man.

    I’ve had my say..just how I feel.

  82. confloyd: that is harrassment. do you have a union? he should not be able to get away that type of behavior. There are laws against it. If you are in a private hospital setting, your options are probably less, but good for you, for sticking up to yourself.

  83. The media has had every person that has been or said they have been in a sexual relationship before why doesn’t this get big media, maybe on fox? For sinclair.

  84. texan4hillary Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    bill has brought up bosnia 2 times in two days. hillry told him not to discuss it. bill-if u want hill to win this battle listen to hill. this is again another distraction we dont need!

    How would we know if Hill really said that? Actually the full Bosnia story is incredible. I am very proud of her for her work there.

  85. debbie: I agree. That story is just too weird, and degrades the glbt community.

    confloyd: If the MD, exhibits this type of behavior in front of patients, the complaint could come from the standpoint, of interfering with patient care. This is not appropriate behavior in the presence of patients.

  86. birdgirl and hillaryfor texas, You know this is Texas were talking about here, there are no unions, it is somewhat better for the employees now than it was 20 years ago when I first started. Everyone here is pretty much a republican and if there not they are AA’s and are for BO, so I stand alone. That’s Ok, because I am picking the right one, they are not! No one will ever change my support for Hillary. I am sad about my AA friend that is backing BO, she is very political and belongs to the democratic women in Houston county, she is not looking at all the policies or for that matter BO’s unusual connections, I thought she would not be fooled by him! We are going to the state convention together and somehow I will need to bring it up carefullly and convince her she is making a mistake!

  87. i would rather the campaign go after msnbc and demand an apology for spreading a lie about hillary and the baby story. they ran a lie, knew it was a lie, and kept running as of yesterday morning. when clintons go against big media they win with voters. i want to talk about media bias-not the bosnia issue. the big fish to fry is the obama network

  88. The money graph looks sad, I done all I can do for now, I hope others will start sending in some money.

  89. I know Henry, but I just have 7 years to retirement and our hospital is too worried right now about the medicare standards. People are getting fired right and left and I don’t want to have to drive 120 miles to go to work again. I been home for 6 years now and I like it.
    When my husband had to quit working because of his multiple sclerosis, I had to drive into Houston to work and I worked 2 and 3 jobs to get my last child thru high school. I missed alot of games and lots of cheerleading and band things that I will never get back. I have a new grandchild coming in 3 to 4 weeks and I don’t want to miss anything again. So for now I will just put up with what I have to to keep my job. I have to admit sometimes its really hard!!

  90. debbie
    perhaps it is the hypocrasy of a man who would engage in consensual sex and then involve Mclurkin in his campaign

  91. Just my two cents but I don’t think the goal should be to spend whatever your opponent spends. So far Hillary has been outspent, but that hasn’t cost her any victories. At this point there isn’t a democrat alive who doesn’t know either of these candidates. I just think you reach a point where ads, unless its a very effective one, can only make so much of a difference.

  92. MJ,

    “bill has brought up bosnia 2 times in two days. hillry told him not to discuss it. bill-if u want hill to win this battle listen to hill. this is again another distraction we dont need!
    How would we know if Hill really said that? Actually the full Bosnia story is incredible. I am very proud of her for her work there.”

    Maybe he too knows the real story and feels the media was piling on her, which is what he said yesterday.

  93. Wesley Clark apparently talked about Bosnia, too, according to a poster at TM. And nobody has credibility on Bosnia like Wes Clark.

    Probably somebody asked Bill about it; that’s usually the way these things happen.

  94. nikki22
    his ads here in western pa are relentless and ubiquitous. the media loves him and as such the average joe sitting at home likes the guy and wil vote for him. hillary stumbles and its the lead story bambi makes huge errors in judgement and he is praised.

  95. djia Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
    PA “Street Money” Obama Won’t PAY!!
    Barack Obama may lose support in Philadelphia over ’street money’

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Ummm, for a guy who’s rolling in cash, and who is supposedly trying to put the death grip on his opponent, this seems kind of ….. stupid. What are all those campaign donations going for? Expensive ads that are shown over and over again? Or are the donations going toward paying off the mortgage on the Rezko mansion??

    We live in NJ, and are in the Philly area’s advertising region. My wife said she’s seen all too many BO ads, and she said she found them completely ineffective, and the more she’d see this or that ad, the more she thought it would turn off voters. We joked that the more he advertises, the more it helps Clinton, and that maybe we’d start donating to Obama if they promised to keep running terrible ads.

    But back to Obama donors. Why wouldn’t they put that hard-earned donations to the ground game, GOTV. If it’s “traditional”, why fight it? I thought Obambi’s campaign was such a smooth running machine, and that in itself is his “qualification” to be prez. In fact, Peter Beinart in WashPost yesterday:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/07/AR2008040702196.html

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Deep into a primary campaign that was supposed be over by now, Barack Obama must still answer one fundamental question. Jeremiah Wright notwithstanding, it’s not whether he’s too black. It’s whether he’s too green. Hillary Clinton has made Obama’s inexperience her chief line of attack, and if she goes down, John McCain will pick up where she left off. Luckily, Obama doesn’t have to rely on his legislative résumé to prove he’s capable of running the government. He can point to something more germane: the way he’s run his campaign.

    …..Of the three candidates still in the 2008 race, Obama has run the best campaign by far. …
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Is His Regalness above “playing the game”? And will it cost him votes in Philly? And that may worsen his already tepid PA chances??

  96. Campaigning is nothing like governing.

    And if the watchdogs were watching, his campaign wouldn’t look so great.

  97. is he trying to raise a million in a minute?
    what are the penalties for an individual who exceeds the max?

  98. rgb44hrc
    “But back to Obama donors. Why wouldn’t they put that hard-earned donations to the ground game, GOTV. If it’s “traditional”, why fight it? I thought Obambi’s campaign was such a smooth running machine, and that in itself is his “qualification” to be prez. In fact, Peter Beinart in WashPost yesterday”

    BHO does not need to put money into the ground game………..

    SEIU is funding 75,000 troops at a cost of nearly $1million to run the ground game in PA. That is why unions have so much influence in politics friends..they have the bodies.

  99. web.mac.com/csa4/iWeb/Site/Photos.html

    repost – didn’t work the first time. Pics from today’s NYC protest – they may not have gotten the volume they wanted, but if they do this weekly even with 20-50 people at a time, it will get the message out to the pedestrians, the average joe and jill, that we see the media bias and condemn it.

  100. Bombshell about Obama expected next week!!?!

    Sean Hannity said Hillary, or her campaign, will drop a bombshell about Obama next week between the 16th and the 22nd. He said the idea was to wait until after the debate and before the PA vote.

    I hope this one is for real!

  101. Actually the story about that rumor is already out, but it is still just a rumor.

    primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/10998

  102. I don’t see anything at that link. What rumor? I doubt Hill is dropping a bombshell. Sounds like typical hyperbole.

  103. I don’t want to get my hopes up too high, so I will just wait and see.

    One thing is for certain: if there is such a bombshell the MSM will handle it by trying to shoot it down.

  104. That link was to a short story about it. Try this one:

    campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmJiNWI2MWU2NWZmYmE5MTVmZWVkYTRlYTljYmZiZDA=

  105. Look at this jerk:

    http://www.politico .com/blogs/ bensmith/ 0408/Obama_on_smalltown_ PA_Clinging_ religion_guns_xenophobia. html

    Mayhill Fowler has more from Obama’s remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser Sunday, and they include an attempt to explain the resentment in small-town Pennsylvania that won’t be appreciated by some of the people whose votes Obama’s seeking:

    You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them…And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

    And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
    That’s pretty broad list of things to explain with job loss.

  106. Email today from Bill Clinton to supporters, below, in case anyone didn’t get this. Please ask your friends and family to donate today, and add $0.44 cents to their total! 🙂

    —-
    Dear Democrats,

    The people who count Hillary out of this race don’t know her the way you and I do.

    Do we have an uphill battle to fight? You bet we do. We face an opponent who has a virtually unlimited war chest, who is breaking records to spend whatever it takes to win.

    But I know that with Hillary leading the way and your strong support behind her, we can get the job done and we can win.

    Hillary doesn’t care what the pundits say. She’s listening to you. And that’s why you need to speak out loud and clear and tell her today — just 11 days until the next big primary in Pennsylvania — that she has your support. Your recent contribution was so helpful, and I would not be asking again if we were not at such a critical moment.

    Contribute today to help Hillary keep fighting and winning.

    I talk to people every day who want to know whether Hillary is going to go the distance. I tell them all the same thing — if you knew Hillary like I do, you’d know she is in this race to win.

    Hillary’s a fighter.

    She’s fighting now to ensure that millions of Americans have the chance to make their voices heard — and making sure Michigan and Florida aren’t counted out. And as our president, she’s going to fight for the American dream that we all share.

    But first, we have an uphill battle to fight together, starting in Pennsylvania. Right now, the Obama campaign is spending an unprecedented $2.2 million per week on TV ads in the Keystone state — an amount one Pennsylvania strategist called “unbelievable.”

    With just 11 days until voters go to the polls, we can’t afford to be outspent. Every day the ground shifts; every day there’s a new twist in this race. Now is the moment when your support will count for the most. Now is the moment when Hillary needs you fighting by her side.

    Contribute now to help us match the Obama campaign ad-for-ad in these final days before the Pennsylvania primary.

    Thank you so much for all you do for our campaign — let’s keep working until we put Hillary in the White House!

    Sincerely,

    Bill Clinton

  107. Can you believe wtf Obama said about PA’s towns last night

    “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them…And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.”

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations”.

    Hell of a way to win their votes Barack, I think it our duty to tell the good people of PA, that Obama thinks they are gun toting, religious, anti immigrant fanatics.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_on_smalltown_PA_Clinging_religion_guns_xenophobia.html

  108. WOW,
    Listening to Hannity while blogging and he says the Hard Left are doing everything they can to take out the commentators who are providing information to the public.
    He sounds real upset!

    And whoever posted up thread about not liking Hannity, I’m not a big fan either but I do support the fact that he, Rush and FOX are the only big Media vetting BO. I agree he will trash HRC but at least he’s also doing what the rest of the press has decided ‘it’s not my job.”

  109. Moonpluto,
    Yet another addition to the list of people BO has insulted. Let’s see,
    Pennsylvanians
    Italians
    Typical white people
    jews
    Pakistani’s
    women
    GLBT

    Everyone, please add to the list.

  110. From Sherm’s link:
    April 10
    Hillary’s numbers have actually been inching up a bit in the Keystone state lately. At the beginning of the month, Public Policy Polling shocked the world by suggesting Obama was ahead by two points. Their latest poll puts Hillary up by 3. In the Insider Advantage poll, Hillary’s lead has increased from three percent to ten percent. In SurveyUSA, she’s gone from leading by 12 to leading by 18. Some other polls show no change or a slight loss of ground.

  111. how is fox saying Bill Clinton that Bill’s office is in Manhattan. I thought his office was in Harlem!

  112. God, we really have to make sure, that comment from Obama hits the PA airwaves.

    Obama’s new PA ad

    Hey you gun toting, anti immigrant, religious nut anti trade facists, vote for me because I’m kool.

    I’m Barack Obama and i approve of this message.

  113. haha, the PA quote is top of drudge, he’s gonna be crucified. Lets push it a bit more, Fox perhaps.

    What a daft ass comment to make, 10 days before a huge primary in the state you are slagging off.

  114. Plural, you would have never realized that with the guy from Polico saying that Bill bills are higher than any other ex-President. He was using more tax payer money than the other. You think they might have said how wonderful some of his work out of that office is. The media is so corrupt!! God I will be glad when this is over. I am sick of the bias!!

  115. moonpluto,

    Think I’m gonna havta resend emails to the PA press with that comment prominently featured.

    hehehe

  116. debbie Says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
    I just want to congratulate all of you for being so absolutely civil under the circumstances. (the media bias, the BHO lies, the personal attacks etc.) I surely would expect a lot more anger from you guys but you have a lot of class.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    I went to an organizing mtg yesterday here in Philly where I work (live in NJ), and some folks mentioned BO nuts throwing things at them while putting up signs, or tearing down signs to replace w/ BO signs.

    We don’t want to sink down to that level
    a) we have pride in trying to win fairly.
    b) bad behavior reflects badly on the candidate.
    c) let’s call it what it is, “vandalism”, and that’s illegal. It also gives the impression that bodily harm might be threatended.
    d) Even worse, it infringes on the right to voice your opinions and practice politics without fear of reprisals, the whole regressive regime spiel that has gotten worse under Bush. Remember how much we’ve hated Republicans practicing low ball “politics”? Why would we want to go there??

    Which brings up, why do Obama’s supporters want to practice gutter politics? Hmmm, “Do anthing to win?” Sound familiar?

  117. Good lord, are we back to picking on Bill for daring to be a former president?

    These Arkansans have so much nerve!!

  118. Oh, I forgot the biggies,
    Yet another addition to the list of people BO has insulted. Let’s see,
    Pennsylvanians
    Italians
    Typical white people
    jews
    Pakistani’s
    women
    GLBT
    FLORIDIANS
    MICHIGINIANS
    Michiganians

  119. the tide is turning .. please, oh please help us get more $ into the campaign. Even as little as 5.44 will help.

    Go Hillary…..

  120. confloyd,
    Harlem is really the northern section of Manhattan – in other words it’s not separated bu rivers or waterways.

  121. The Hammas controversy is a great chance for HRC to repudiate Carter’s meetings with Hamas and urge BO to join her. Of course JC is expected to endorse BO . . .

    That’s according to Newt.

  122. moonpluto,

    ‘Hey you gun toting, anti immigrant, religious nut anti trade facists, vote for me because I’m kool. I’m Barack Obama and i approve of this message.’

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! Glad I wasn’t drinking water when i read that. Such passages at Big Pink are the reason my keyboard is jammed and I have so many typos. 👿

    Newt saying BO could be the first anti-Israel candidate in modern history – sorry – rambling – this about BO refusing to renounce Hammas.

  123. carter does our party shame at a time we dont need more. the obama quote on pa folks is the elitist idiocy dean and others think. just bc of unemplotment u dont run and buy guns and such. but elites think working class folks are boobs.

  124. Newt says Americans are beginning to wake up to WHO BO really is. Senator Obama is a leader of the Hard left, his positions are indefensible, his 20 year association with Wright is unjustifiable and his association with William Ayers is incomprehensible.
    His views show he is tolerant of terrorism, tolerant of those who are anti-Israel and he’s a danger to the country.
    Sorry – Newt again – NOT my favorite person 😈 but D@mn it, at least he’s saying it! Hannity’s gonna cover these issues in tonight’s show.
    I think the repubs are even more afraid of BO squeaking into the WH than HRC coz they see it as heralding the downfall of America.

  125. BO, how appropriate his initials are the shortened version of a horrible body odour stench.

    Shame HRC couldnt run this as an ad, although we’d love to see it.

    If you are in BO, then guess what, you’re gonna end up with a stink.

  126. I thought it was pretty funny, too, when I started using it a couple of months ago.

    Just gotta make sure there’s noting politically incorrect in that acronym although I don’t see how that could be possible coz it is, after all, a universal human affliction.

    :mrgreen:

  127. YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
    DATE: April 11, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
    AMOUNT: $25.44

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    DATE: April 8, 2008 3:18 PM CDT
    AMOUNT: $25.44

    As Sir Elton sang, “…..I know it’s not much, but it’s the best I can do…. “

  128. The PA comment is starting to make the rounds, i had a peep over at DU, even the Obamabots are handwringing over why he said it. I say give him some water to wash down his foot.

    LOL.

  129. Here’s my contribution receipt.
    Contribution Details
    Date: April 11, 2008 4:05 PM EDT

    Amount: $25.44

    Money meter is up to almost 500,000. Goal is 2.2 million. At least it’s moving up again. It’s twice what it was this morning.

    😀

  130. I can’t find that article on DU, moonpluto.
    (Thanks mj for the clarification.)
    I DID however, find this. hehehehe
    Di MAio says DNC is prejudiced against caucasians in his new lawsuit. ROTF.

    journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1982

    Oh Lord – this is priceless.

  131. basil9 Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    Oh, I forgot the biggies,
    Yet another addition to the list of people BO has insulted. Let’s see,
    Pennsylvanians
    Italians
    Typical white people
    jews
    Pakistani’s
    women
    GLBT
    FLORIDIANS
    MICHIGINIANS
    Michiganians

    ME

  132. h t t p : / / hillarysbloggers.soapblox.net/

    This has got the ‘big blog’ software, diaries, etc — going pretty well. Let’s give them some love, start diaries where they won’t be attacked or purged.

  133. keep yakking Barack baby…the more the US knows you the more they will reject you. Go ahead and refuse to condemn meeting with terrorists … its your standard operating procedure.

    superdelegates are watching and listening

  134. Guys,

    About polls. In the big important states, it’s always the same pattern. When a state’s election is weeks or monhs away, Hillary has a big lead. As time goes on, the lead narrows, and when Obama starts blitzing, his numbers go up and it may look like he’s going to win. THen in the last few days or the last day, the Undecideds and Inds break for HIllary and some more women come out and Hillary wins it handily.

  135. wbboei Says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
    1950democat: you were right.
    ——————-
    🙂 Always glad to be of service. When you have time, could you email me whatever confirmation/cites you found?

  136. nice to see Obama’s PA gaffe as a headliner on Drudge – that should get it some attention on the MSM…but why refusing to criticize Carter for the Hamas meeting is buried in Drudge’s headlines is odd.

  137. Just to clear up the Barbara Boxer thing, she almost begrudingly is giving her superdelagate vote to Hillary because Hillary took the state of CA, she refuses to endorse Hillary however like Diane Feinstein has. I’ve been a supporter of hers for a long time but she’s more worried about raising money for her 2010 re-election than saying exactly what she means. She’s trying to ride the fence on this and I think it is shameful. On this she’s gonna lose. Voters are not fooled.

  138. I’m trying this again. use http. You guys are going to love this:

    videos.newsobserver.com/index.php?a=player&id=1816319

  139. nikki22,

    I just posted about this ‘polls tightening’ pattern. Aside from the bots and media focusing more on polls as propoganda toward the last, the basic pattern may be legit. If the pollsters/media were totally cheating, why report the early favorable polls at all?

    It may be just a natural progression for the voters to think:
    1. “I know about Hillary, she’s pretty good, I’ll probably vote for her.”
    2. “Hm, this new guy sounds interesting, he might be better, I think I”ll try him.”
    3. “Time to get serious, better stick with HILlary.”

  140. Good move by Hillary today — smart policy, and smart politics:
    —-

    Clinton Touts Crime Plan
    By Perry Bacon Jr.

    PHILADELPHIA — Signaling she is not conceding the black vote to Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Hillary Clinton touted her plan to reduce urban crime while speaking at a YMCA in a mostly African America neighborhood here.

    In West Philadelphia, Clinton called for putting 100,000 additional police officers on the street in urban areas — exactly what her husband pushed through in his first term. Her campaign, dubbing that part of the plan “COPS 2.0” after the initiative in President Clinton’s first term, said the goal would be to cut the homicide rate in half.

    “Violent crime is on the rise again in America,” Clinton said.

    The crime rate has gone up in the last two years, after dropping for more than a decade, and African American voters have expressed concern about the issue, but Clinton’s speech marks one of the few times during the campaign that any of the major candidates has focused on crime reduction. For Clinton, touting one of her husband’s ideas marked a sharp contrast in a week where she had been sharply distancing herself from her husband’s support for free trade agreements.

    Clinton was joined at the event by Michael Nutter, the black mayor of Philadelphia who is campaigning hard here for Clinton.

    “People want to be safe all across the world, but people also want to be safe right here in West Philadelphia,” Nutter said as he introduced Clinton. … “They’re not necessarily talking about Al Qaeda. … Here in West Philadelphia, we’re more worried about al-Gangster than al-Qaeda. Osama Bin Laden and some of those other folks couldn’t last five minutes in West Philadelphia.”

  141. Ha, Hillary says something like:

    I just heard that my Opponent has just commented that the people of Pennsylvania are bitter. That hasn’t been my experience, the people I’ve met are hopeful and resilient and ready to roll up their sleeves and get work to make this country better.

  142. debbie,

    I didn’t know that about Boxer but at least she’s gonna endorse HRC and right now that’s what counts.

    You Californians can decide what to do with her in 2010. 😀

  143. Debbie, you’re right about Boxer. She is up for re-election, so she doesn’t want to anger anyone. I thought, she would come out for BO, until she made that comment, before Super Tuesday.

  144. Obama’s catty comments, denigrating rural Pennsylvanians, were beyond the pale today. It’s typical Obama behavior: lots of hype about being a “uniter,” but in reality, he engages in divisive politics.

    Glad to hear Hillary’s calling him out on it!

  145. she’s not endorsing Hillary, she is giving her superdelegate vote to Hillary because of the CA win, and yes that is better than her giving it to BHO

  146. Debbie: Right. Boxer said, she wouldn’t do any campaigning or anything like that. She is definitely, trying to have it both ways.

  147. I have a feeling that “bitter” comment from dipstick is going to pay dividends for Hillary in PA.

    We must make sure everyone there hears it.

  148. debbie,

    I stand corrected. Boxer is evidently very controversial in CA. Sounds like the east coast version of Spitzer minus hookergate.

    :mrgreen:

  149. Well the general concensus from news media websites comments is that Obama is a complete tool for saying this and has shot himself royally in the foot.

    In fact, the words used are arrogant, condescending, elitist and ignorant. Finally people catching on to what we been saying for months.

  150. FOX & CNN on the “bitter” story, both McCain and Hillary jumped on it

    MSNBC no where to be seen on the issue

  151. so last week, he said to PA, that “babies were a punishment” and this week its “PA towns are bitter gun toting, religious nuts who are anti trade and immigrant”

    Whats next weeks gem I wonder.

  152. moononpluto Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
    so last week, he said to PA, that “babies were a punishment” and this week its “PA towns are bitter gun toting, religious nuts who are anti trade and immigrant”

    *****

    No wonder Michelle O isn’t proud of America with a view of it like that!!

  153. I took my final look at CNN’s Gafferty and Wolfe Mail segment.THey are a disgrace to all Media and viewers.The web site is operated by them,choose the most disgusting anti Clinton responders and even add their input and add comments.What a miserable group of biased character challenged would-be and has-been yes men and women.May they all end uo working for WASTE MANAGEMENT at min.wage. By the way Gafferty,I wish you would take your daily dose of a laxative.You look so pained all the time.Job too much?? or just constipated??MSM has some real credibility problems.Just got some good news about MSNBC owner Jack Welch.GE is having some real business problems and their Chris Matthews is tanking the network standings.Their Crock ran over when they decided to to make 2008 presidential campaign theirs and Barack Hussein Obama their choice for the Whitehouse.Don’t let it happen America.These are troubled times and we need Hillary more than ever.

  154. Exactly, moononpluto. Obama’s crass comments today about working Pennsylvanians show exactly how out of touch he is with middle America. He does well with the urban yuppies, but that’s really the extent of it.

  155. texan4hillary Says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    bill has brought up bosnia 2 times in two days. hillry told him not to discuss it.
    ———–

    To some of HIllary’s demographic, it might be worse if Bill DIDN’T defend her. The media and her enemies already know about the issue, and can bring it up again any time they want to.

    To some undecideds in her demographic, learning that she went to a war zone, seeing the videos of her among the armoured soldiers — is the important news. So she may be picking up votes from veterans and military people who recognize what those photos really mean. The people who are nit-picking her words probably weren’t going to vote for her anyway.

    Also, remember during the SC flap, some journalist did interviews on the street in Harlem and the old people all said things like: “Hey man, Bill’s doing the right thing, he’s gotta take care of his woman.”

    Others might just think that Bill staying out meant the charges were true.

  156. OK Big-Pink citizens, it is time to take a stand. It doesn’t matter how civil you are when you talk about Mr. Obama’s problems. His people are going to try to drown our voices. “Germany before WWII.”

    We need to put our backs to the grindstone, and start donating once a week (please get others to join you). The goal should be that everyone that comes to this side should pledge to donate a minimum of $5.44 per week. This should only be an internal money bomb. Let us see how much money we can put together for Ms. Clinton. Our goal for next week Monday-Friday is $1000.00 ( I know, we do not make much money and have to support others), but I think $1000.00 is something that we can put together. We all need to paste our receive and admin could keep tabs.

    Community your input?

    Thanks.

  157. confloyd Says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
    I am a x-ray tech and work at a local hospital in texas. Last night while I was working my er doctor ask me to x-ray one of his patients and said he would read me the latest nasty story about hillary in the wall street journal while I was doing the exam.

    That’s endangering the patient! The tech might get distracted and upset and make a mistake.

    Isn’t there some sort of ethical whistle-blower hotline you could tip off? Or at least tell some senior woman in private that the doctor is likely to upset workers and cause mistakes with this kind of talk?

    Was the patient conscious, or other witnesses? If a mistake was made and the patient sued, the patient’s lawyer could make this an issue and get big damages.

  158. What is the news on the anti media protest. Any footage or word on this! We need thousands of people to get out there, the media has to cover it. HOW ABOUT A HUGE FLOAT MADE OF CAFFERTY AND MATHEWS AND THE OTHERS HUGE LIKE 20 FEET HUGE AND STROLL THOSE BABIES DOWN THE STREET MAKE THEM HUGE PANIATAS, AND THE CITY COULD HIT THEM AND GET GOODS, ALL HILLARY CLINTON STUFF THAT WOULD BE GREAT!

  159. 1950Democrat

    “To some undecideds in her demographic, learning that she went to a war zone, seeing the videos of her among the armoured soldiers — is the important news”

    ***

    That would work if the media would show all videos, but they mislead with the story and then her kissing a kid

  160. nikki22 Says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    you reach a point where ads, unless its a very effective one, can only make so much of a difference.

    And too many tv or radio ads can be counter productive! In OH or NH voters were complaining that they ‘couldn’t get away from Hillary,’ she had too many tv ads.

    I think some people in PA were saying that about Obama last week or so.

  161. ABM,

    Cafferty, or as I refer to him, CADAVERTY, is beyond help and I don’t think all the laxatives in the world would rid him of his BS!

    I stopped watching when I found this site. I used to tune in sometimes to Blitzer but I stopped that, too. It’s clear he doesn’t always agree with Jacka$$ when he’ gets that pained expression, sort of like the one BO described as the reaction to family members when confronted with the eccentric uncle everyone s afraid to talk about and comparing that to Jeremiah Wright.
    I would think that it’s not only Tweetie pulling the ratings down, but Ogremann, Nora, Mika and a bunch of others, too.

    Remind me NEVER to get on your bad side. 😀

  162. OBAMA’S “ELITISM” ISSUE

    Hillary Clinton and John McCain both ripped into Barack Obama Friday for reportedly saying residents of small-town America “cling” to interests like guns and religion because they’re bitter over lost jobs, a remark his opponents interpreted as arrogant.

    The Huffington Post reported that Obama made the comments while speaking to a group of wealthy California donors in San Francisco over the weekend. The Post quotes him specifically singling out towns in Pennsylvania, where he’s trying to woo voters and overcome Clinton’s lead in the polls before the state’s April 22 primary.

    “Pennsylvanians don’t need a president who looks down on them. They need a president who stands up for them, who fights for them,” Clinton said in Philadelphia Friday afternoon, citing the Obama quotes and saying the Pennsylvanians she’s met aren’t bitter, but “resilient” and “positive.”

    “It is a remarkable statement and extremely revealing,” McCain adviser Steve Schmidt said. “It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking. It is hard to imagine someone running for president of the United States who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

    Schmidt also said it shows Obama views the people he’s trying to relate to with “contempt.”

    The Obama campaign has neither confirmed nor disputed the account in The Huffington Post.

    The site quoted him as saying: “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are going to regenerate and they have not.

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

  163. Debbie,

    Good point. I saw the good video shots at noquarterusa.net (pretty much pro-Hillary) and at democratic underground (mixed) and iirc at Taylor Marsh.

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  166. Obama Draws Fire for Comments on Small-Town America
    by FOXNews.com
    Friday, April 11, 2008

    elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/11/obama-draws-fire-for-comments-on-small-town-america/

  167. The “bitter” comment now top headline on Foxnews website.

    Guess PA gonna get to hear all about it.

  168. Sounds like a description of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation.

    ‘And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to . . . . religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them . . . . “

  169. If there is anyone from Hillary’s camp here, Ed Rendell needs to come out and speak up about this as well as other respected officials in Pennsylvania.

    This is outrageous and needs to get legs!

    Typical bitter white people with their guns!

  170. moononpluto Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
    lol, Obama’s been clinging to religion this whole frigging election. Oooh the Irony.

    Yes. He’s a phony.

  171. The best thing is, that PA is a big religious gun ownership state, he basically dissed them in one foul swoop. He just handed that entire vote slice to Hill in one big mouthed comment.

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  173. capedi –

    I posted my contribution way up thread. I have donated almost $500 which I cannot afford over the past few months as I can’t work until treatment ends.

    Most, if not all the people on this forum are doing what they can to help, from financial contributions, to phone banking, to blogging on newspapers, sending letters to the editor, notifying the BIG GUNS at BM about their shameful news coverage, working on petitions to seat Florida delegates, etc.

  174. His comments mesh well with Michelle’s distorted view of America…

    “You’re not talking to each other, taking advantage that you’re in this diverse community. Because sometimes it’s easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your own ignorance. That’s America. “

  175. haha, HillBillLover –

    yes,Pennsylvanians are typical white people xenophobes with their guns. (I’m Barack Obama and I approve that message)

  176. I’m not able to donate $ till Monday but I’m phonebanking to PA/

    Hillary campaign says they need boots on the ground in PA and they still need as many phone bankers as possible.

    Bbami supporters having phone banking “parties” .. we can beat them at their own game by calling, calling, callling.

  177. OH, HILLBILL, ROTF.
    I gotta add that to the list of people BO has offended.
    Pennsylvanians
    Italians
    Typical white people
    jews
    Pakistani’s
    women
    GLBT
    FLORIDIANS
    MICHIGINIANS
    Michiganians
    ME (Debby)
    “Typical bitter white people with their guns”

  178. I think those remarks were planned….to try to excuse his big loss coming in PA.

    He can’t take his name off..he can blame his big loss on his “slip”..

    We’ll see if he comes out and apologizes..

    Huffington Post would not post those comments unless they had Bambi and Shells persmission.

    It’s done with a reason.

    They see this HUGE loss coming and they now have a excuse. Hillary gonna whip his ass backwards into tuesday.

  179. Ok, we understand. If you donated this week don’t forget next week. BUT you need to at a minimum make on phone call to PA to help.:-)

  180. Yeah it seems BO has given up on PA by the looks of it, all the signs are there for that, i think the latest internals have put HRC anywhere from 12 to 20 ahead, if not more.

  181. Forgot to mention. I received a call from Pa they said they had enough volunteers in Philly. They want us to go to Erie PA

  182. Hmm, don’t be so sure. He has SEIU paying 1 million for his ground op. I don’t think he’d intentionally say something so stupid. Those comments won’t play well in Indiana, NC, Montana…lot’s of upcoming states.

  183. I want all of you here to start using positive thinking. Every morning until the 22nd you need to put it out in the universe that Ms. Clinton in going to win BIG. If you prefer to pray do that also. But everything has to be positive.

  184. neetabug Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
    Forgot to mention. I received a call from Pa they said they had enough volunteers in Philly. They want us to go to Erie PA

    Neat! That’s good news. Thanks for doing this, neeta.

  185. jr Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
    Obama set to give a speech on gun control, religion, and immigration………………………… lol

    Ha! This so funny. I thought this was serious. So funny!

  186. HillBillyLover Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
    Wow, it is remarkable that this story was broken by an Obama supporter that has maxxed out…

    Really? Who? Why on earth would they do that? Interesting. Is this the same person who broke his other awful comments about Hill’s FP experience?

  187. Hillary is great. Wonderful response.

    BO and MO think alike.

    How do you explain a statement like this? BO is obviously very arrogant and condescending. He is shooting himself in the foot. Heck, he doesn’t need Hillary to throw the kitchen sink at him, he is doing it, to himself.

  188. CNN has the PA slam front of the hour.

    Of course it IS Kitty Pilgrim and not Lou Dobbs but still . . . . .

    And from what I gathered the reporter RECORDED the comments last Sunday.

    But biga$$ Crowley, instead of addressing the question of how HRC is handling it is defending her true love . . . . how the heck is SHE assigned to the HRC campaign?
    Anyway, not the clip of HRC’s response that she doesn’t find Pennsylvanians to be bitter and they don’t need a pr4sident who looks down at them but works for them.Even Schneider admitting BO has gotten in to trouble, as Crawley grudgingly admitted at the end. Now of course Schneider says we need to hear an explanation from BO as to what he meant.
    IF he were ever to (gulp) get in it would open a huge cottage industry in interpreting BO. Personally, I’m sick and tired of inarticulate pompous arrogant fools. We’ve had one for the past 8 years! 😈

  189. It is Mayhill Fowler, a “citizen journalist” that has been on Obama’s PA bus tour. She said she wasn’t go to do the story because she didn’t want anything negative on the campaign, but that it bothered her and she eventually decided to write the story.

  190. “Now of course Schneider says we need to hear an explanation from BO as to what he meant.”

    I think it was pretty clear what he meant. These people are hooked on BO like an abusive boyfriend. LOL

  191. Basil9, Lou Dobbs (the woman subbing in for him today) played the tape recorded by the reporter 🙂

  192. basil9 Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
    Oh JEEZ –
    Gloria Borger and Errol Lewis justifying BO.

    Oh my, quick, these people need a 12 step program.

  193. Pass the barf bag! Errol Lewis saying the problem is when BO speaks he’s asking people to be better than they are . . .

    I don’t need a pastor.

    Jonathan Martin says Repubs now have a tape of BO making elitist comments and he’s gonna have a hard time explaining this.

  194. basil9 Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
    Pass the barf bag! Errol Lewis saying the problem is when BO speaks he’s asking people to be better than they are . . .

    Funny thing is, these people think they are pretty ok. You know, these are good americans. They don’t see themselves as bitter jerks.

  195. Why alienate people, that you need in the GE? He has said stupid things before i.e. babies as punishment, typical white people, etc.

  196. Sorry for multiple posts but . . .
    Martin saying BO now has the same problem Gore and Kerry had – that he’s elitist and out of touch with the regular American.
    Of course he’s saying that with the friggin PRESUMPTION that BO will be the nominee.
    NOT!!!!!!!!!
    👿
    And, not for nothing, if BO’s being compared to those two, doesn’t that basically PROVE there’s no racism with regards to his nomination.
    YIKES! 20 minutes into Lou and they’re STILL on the BO gaffe. Hey, let’s send that to Howard Dean! He’s trying to solicit contributions to the Dem Party by citing McCain’s gaffes . . . .

  197. dot, this is something that will hurt him even after PA. I really think this is just who he is. He says something different to every audience, but he’s really just an elitist.

  198. It JUST gets better.

    Now Pilgrim is reading McCAIN’S RESPONSE!!!!!!

    hooooooooray
    But that fool Roland Martin saying BO getting slammed coz he’s trying to tell the truth.
    I’m gonna email Lou and BEG him to stop booking that idiot.

  199. Roland Martin: He told the truth. People are angry. He totally misses the point, how arrogant, elitist, and condescending that statement was. BO could have phrased it differently. What a jerk.

  200. HillBillyLover Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
    Roland Martin is defending Obama for “Telling the truth”.

    What a friggen jerk. Isn’t he a member of Meek’s church? Is he just bitter and clinging to religion?

  201. Hi All,

    Does yesterday count for the contribution total? My mom and I donated $150.44 together yesterday about this same time. I don’t have the reciept to post, but I do have my bank’s online transaction info:

    CHECKCARD HILLARY CLIN
    TON C ARLINGTON VT … -$150.44

    Don’t know if the rest of you are like me or not in this regard, but Hillary is the first political candidate I’ve ever given money to (and my mom first for that matter too). My mom and I started giving after Super Tuesday when we heard she was having trouble raising money.

  202. Maybe we could get some bumper stickers made….

    Wva and Ky needs to hear these remarks as well…..and Indiana.

    I encourage you to let PA voters hear these remarks when you phone bank. They are official now and legit to talk about.

  203. Shenanigans

    That is great. Do you know what headquarters you will working at? I am coming from Ohio

  204. It’s nothing to do with phrasing it differently. It’s simply untrue. There are not scores of people who are just bitter, clinging to religion, clinging to guns. They like church. Some like to hunt or just maintain their independence with a gun in the home. These are just regular folks. Obama’s an ass.

  205. Levon .. bless you and your mom. And welcome.

    Hillary is the first candidate I ever contributed to. I have contributed to DNC before but NEVER again ..

    I just wish I had even more to give.

  206. Do you believe that Senator Barack Obama’s comments reveal his elitist attitude toward every hardworking American?
    Yes 55%
    No 45%

  207. Oh man, these people are master word twisters but to her credit Pilgrim isn’t taking it.
    Martin says BO shouldn’t apologise. She’s not buying it.
    I can’t WAIT until HRC sweeps into the WH and all these fools are kicked to the curb, including Tweetie, cadaverdy, Ogremann. . .
    She says it’s important to put the comment in context and says we (CNN) did this because the blogger has a recording of the tape.

    GO VOTE!!!!!! Poll is do the remarks show BO is elitist?
    loudobbs.com
    Let’s not let the obamanots win this one!

  208. The problem with the media is that except for a few like Dobbs and Scarborough, THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME ELITIST ATTITUDE TOWARD BLUE COLLAR AMERICANS.

    So of course they think he was telling the truth. They think we are all ignorant rubes clinging to our guns and religion, just like BO does. They think we need a messiah to lead us forward out of our shameful ignorance, and save us from our sorry selves, since we dumbasses don’t know any better, unlike their enlightened selves.

    They make me sick.

  209. djia Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
    roland martine “it will go the way we spin it”

    Incredible! What kind of press is this?

  210. well we should also ask CNN to remove them. AGAIN.

    I’m really sick of writing and calling to them though. I really think that Hillary is winning the hearts and minds of the people she gets too and that our donations and our phonebanking and other efforts are more worthy.

    I won’t even give anybody but Joe on msnbc a clik and cnn kooliad heads make me SICK.

    Anybody heard anything else on the fire at hills headquarters in Indiana…I bet it was the bots.

  211. sorry
    Martin CONFESING that the story will or will not have legs depending on how people like him, Errol and talk radio hosts and people in the media SPIN the story.
    BO shouldn’t apologise. What an A$$.

    We need a transcript! Martin admitting there’s a concerted deliberate media bias . . . .
    And STILL spinning like a top . . . .

  212. Yeah before that Dick Roland Martin is finished, Hillary will have said it first and Barack was just repeating.

    The fucking gall of this lot is amazing, its blatant propaganda.

  213. djia Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    did you all notice all the college age kids in that audience with hillary today??

    Well, she was at a college. 🙂

  214. Why do they have AA commentators and not any white ones???? Of course, the AA’s are going to spin it, to BO’s advantage.

  215. Jiminy Christmas! Are Roland Martin and Donna Brazille siblings? They sound exactly alike in their worship of Obama.

    Roland is spinning so fast and furious that I feel dizzy just listening to him!

  216. I’m at work – but someone people on TM board said that Cafferty, Toobin and other in-the-BO-tank panelists defended Obama’s PA gaffe, and then somehow equated the “anger and bitterness” of these Americans to Al Quada.

    Is this true?

    Can we get a clip or transcript? Let’s get Jack “CNN just renewed my contract, so I don’t care what you think” Cafferty fired.

  217. Mj

    LOL……..i guess that would make sense then huh ……DUH

    but they did seem excited for her! 😀

  218. birdgal,

    It was Errol explaining why poor bambi is so misunderstood and saying it’s coz he speaks the truth and encourages people to be better than what they are. ie. NOT bitter . . .

    I gotta get this transcript.

  219. djia, she did win the youth vote in MA and CA, and came close in NH, and maybe won it in RI, or nearly, I can’t remember.

  220. Roland Martin needed a BIG B-I-G smack down for his spin. Where is Lou Dobbs when you need him?

  221. What a C^nt that guy is. I’m sorry but if Bill or Hillary had said what Obama just did, they would have been made out to be Elitist fascist pigs.

    So its fine if Obama says it. I mean wtf, seriously, WTF………..

  222. mj Says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    djia, she did win the youth vote in MA and CA, and came close in NH, and maybe won it in RI, or nearly, I can’t remember.
    ***********************************

    I didn’t realize that! good to know!

  223. The transcript is here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

    Full transcript:

    OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it’s fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre…they’re misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to ‘white working-class don’t wanna work — don’t wanna vote for the black guy.’ That’s…there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today – kind of implies that it’s sort of a race thing.

    Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.

    But — so the questions you’re most likely to get about me, ‘Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?’ What they wanna hear is — so, we’ll give you talking points about what we’re proposing — to close tax loopholes, you know, roll back the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama’s gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we’re gonna provide health care for every American.

    But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

    Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you’ll find is, is that people of every background — there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you’ll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I’d be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you’re doing what you’re doing.

  224. So guys what do we reckon, is PA gonna be seriously pissed about this.

    I know if I was from PA and that dope had said that about my state, it would be a cold day in hell before i voted for him.

  225. Dot,
    I think you’re right. And timed just before the Sunday talk shows for maximum exposure . . . His internal polls must be really bad! And that despite out-spending HRC5 to 1!
    Yup. this is the set up so THEY don’t have to give HRC any credit for a humongous win. it will be because poor Bambi got confused with his words and made a boo-boo and no one understands him! Doesn’t he sound more and more like a petulant defiant teenager??????.
    Pilgrim saying much more coming up on Senato Obama’s ATTACK on small town America. If DObbs has this for the entire hour you can imagine what FOX is gonna do with it. hehehehe
    Are you a clairvoyant? 😀

  226. Look they (BIG MEDIA) are using two different rules. Use kid gloves for Mr. Obama and anything else for Ms. Clinton. We need to stay strong. And we need to make them understand that in Nov if Ms. Clinton is not on top of the ticket we will sit this one out.

  227. I still don’t trust the media – if this is similar to the Wright implosion – then by Tuesday, he’ll get 3 major networks to air his I GOT ANOTHER SPEECH speech, part deux.

    someone on TM posted: Grey–great report on MSNBC and Hardball…I agree this is huge. Truthfully, what they don’t want to spell out, I will, not only is it out of touch, but what he’s describing is primarily WHITE RURAL AMERICA, hence, there is an undeniable aspect of “racism” in his statement, that’s just my take.

    What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
    MVsprings | 04.11.2008 – 7:38 pm | #

    ******

    This person totally calls it. this is racism – just racism against whites, which is what Rev. Wright was – wish the media would call it like it is. racism is equal opportunity.

  228. you guys…….I’am just feel totally “giddy” over this!

    it’s like when your “team” makes the biggest touch down and your off to the super bowl!

  229. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.

    Oh lord, get over yourself. And for heavens sake, unemployment almost went too low during the 90’s, under 3%, wth is up with this guys doom and gloom about the biggest period of economic expansion since WWII. Where does he get this stuff from?

  230. LMAO!

    Goodwin, who’s from a small town in PA, says Bambi’s remarks are like Jeremiah Wright’s on STEROIDS! hehehehe

    Pilgrim playing the remarks for the 4th time!

    Goodwin says it’s a disaster for bambi as he’s rejecting the life style of a large group of people.

    Sound familiar???????

  231. keep yakking Barack….

    Write loudobbs@cnn.com

    tell them to lose Martin, Borger and Robinson…

    thank him for his good work.

    I don’t know that he gets those “feedback” forms, I just send emails. Never get a real reply but I believe he is getting them.

  232. why not just tell the whole story, the truth, without the spin, this is disgusting. It sounds like a communist media outlet, trying to make people believe something that is not.

  233. So he finally did it.

    Bambi opened his big gob when he thought no one was recording him and dropped himself in the shit.

    Hands up, who didnt think this was going to happen eventually.

  234. Did you read the statement he made about all the chairs at the table in HIS administration .. but HIS would be the biggest cause he is potus. Arrogant prick. Elite prick. Doesn’t care about little people prick. Doesn’t pledge to our flag prick. Sits in the pew for 20 years with his American hatin preacher and copals around with his terrorist buddies prick.

  235. I think Dobbs keeps Martin, Borger and Robinson, that way no one can accuse them of bias..Dobbs allows debate on both sides which is all I ever asked for.

  236. What I think is ironic is that the gaff comes when he is trying to take a swing at Clinton:

    You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

  237. You know what I get asked about most in phone banking?

    The Pledge of Allegiance. Americans are patriotic and we may hate this war but boy we stick together when push comes to shove .. and we DEMAND that in our President.

    Most people ask me why he refuses to Pledge. I won’t lie, I say I did see a picture where other candidates had their hands on their hearts and it seems the Pledge was being said .. Obama just standing with both hands clasped in front.

    That picture needs to be reaired.

  238. “Typical white person” has more meaning now.

    He will be giving a speech in Indiana discussing this issue. Is this another lesson on racism?? I am so sick of this.

  239. Axelrod to the rescue…BHO to speak to this tonight.

    look up axelrod bio..the guy is a master at media spin. get ready for some serious damage control

  240. What do you want to bet in Obama’s speech addressing this he manages to blame Clinton by bringing up the 200,000 jobs in NY thing…even though at the time she thought there would be a democrat in the White House that would make that possible. Roland Martin already brought that up in the context that the statement was “the truth”.

  241. I sure hope they don’t allow him to have tons of air time like they did with the race speech…..so biased

    looks like the bots got to the dobbs poll 🙁

  242. Too many “mistakes”. He’s looking stupid now to America (as he should be)

    His inexperience is showing, he is green.

    How’s he gonna handle every situation on the desk in the white house …all together now “a speech”

    I bet that Donna has stubs for fingers now that she’s dialed so many times.

    Love it .. Hannity will keep this going now.

    Wonder if this is the bombshell rumor floating .. OR even more to come.

  243. WHAT A CROCK!

    The poll results 54% DON’T believe Bambi’s remarks are elitist!

    Man those obamabot hacking programs are d@mn good. there is NO way the poll could have shaken out like that. i wish someone could investigate THAT – the way his campaign RIGS the internet.

  244. yup, I knew it – this is his I GOT ANOTHER SPEECH speech. Which smoke and which mirror will this be pointed to now?

  245. When BO made that statement, he was speaking at fundraiser in SF, to a group of elitists, on Billionaire Row. What does that tell you???

  246. basil9 – I think with this astroturf Axelord operation, they must have some sort of mechanism that messes with the polls – that or he does some sort of dog-whistle email to all the DKos and Democratic Underground Obamabots.

  247. people are onto him. he can’t keep “splaining” things. “splaning” doesn’t get the job done, a hard worker who cares about AMERICANS does. Hillary has been getting things done for 35 years.

    Seriously, he is dumber than a coal bucket. Surely the sds are watching and taking all this in.

    A leader doesn’t need to be “managed” by spin doctors with speechs, he is seriously underqualified for the hardest job in America.

  248. So every frigging time he fucks up, he’ll do a speech. jesus, he’ll never be off the air.

    Seriously how can the electorate not see this guy can’t handle jackshit.

  249. msnbc will kiss his ass in this. I swear I wouldn’t give Olger the ratings. We know what it will be .. they will try to spin this into blaming Hillary.

  250. COuldn’t watch FOC coz it’s about BC so flicked to Ogremann by mistake just in time to hear him say the ‘other two candidates are jumping on this (the insult) like starving lions.

    Pretty heady intellectual stuff????? says Ogreman, interpreting Bambi.

    I think we should take these a$$wipes and dump them in a pick up truck and drop them off in the middle of PA during the middle of hunting season and Bambi should be the leader of the pack. i can just see it now. He spots a bowling alley in the distance and he, tweetie, ogremann, roland stumble toward it but their passage is blocked by a couple of burly plaid-shirted brutes who say only REAL bowlers allowed here.

  251. ya know, I’ll spend the weekend sending this to PA news outlets. F his speech in Indiana, F the MSM. it’s PA that matters now.

  252. moon .. the main plan IMO. Now the spin going out of the huge loss in PA will be ..well, if only he hadn’t misspoke, he was making “inroads” yada, yada, yada.

    Anyway…every popular vote now counts….

    We got fresh ammo for our phone banking anyways.

  253. ppl on TM are joking that pundits are doing a What Obama Really Meant (WORM) – if they’d give that leeway to Hillary on Trina Bachtel, on Bosnia, on a myriad of other things, the world would be righted again.

  254. He really remains me of W. Think about it, every time he opens his mouth something stupid comes out.

  255. you know people will notice that obama keeps giving speeches to explains shit, and hillary has not had too

  256. moonpluto,

    As someone now living in an area similar to PA demographics, and having seen and read about the HUGE backlash against SPitzer, my take is that the thing people hate above all else is HYPOCRISY!

    You can take it to the bank. PA people are gonna be LIVID!

    :mrgreen:

  257. djia – true that. if Clinton misstates something – she apologizes and cops to it. That’s the difference.

  258. You know, what is so sick about him, is he lies about Bill Clinton. He’s trying to make people doubt their own friggen memories. BC built the biggest surplus in the modern era. Al Gore would have used that money for universal health care, to bring green collar jobs to millions of americans. Things were just getting started. Bush effed it up. Bill built it. I just can’t stand this guy for smearing Bill Clinton. Easily the best President for the economy in decades.

  259. Dot48, sorry but that was not planned, that was a fuck up of the first order. It just looks crass and if i lost a primary because of that, he deserves to not get the nomination. He got caught when he thought no one was looking or recording.

    What a fuckwit he truly is.

  260. …someone above said that they’re going to go after the reporter re: Obama’s PA gaffe – mayhill fowler I believe is her name, and had heard she’s an Obama supporter who’d maxed out her contribution, and even struggled with whether to report this or not because it could damage BO’s campaign.

    What are they going to go after her for – having integrity as a journalist?

  261. olbermann and chuck Todd pretty much trying to spin this as a “possibly” not a big deal kind of story in comparison to the bosnia story………A$SES!!

    I hope his ratings go in the shitter

  262. The Obamabots over at DU are having a major shitfit ove Bittergate. I’m laughing my ass off watching them handwring.

  263. basil .. of course.

    has Hillary been on live anywhere today? This week?

    Piss off the media .. vote for Hillary!

  264. This also came out of that Fowler article:

    Wednesday in Levittown, Obama told his audience, “We can find areas of common ground.” But if we are going to move from divisiveness to comity, then Obama must show that he can lead us to see one another at our best and to measure one another at our highest worth. “I’m going to have a big table and will invite everybody,” Obama often says. These were his exact words to Johnstown March 29. “I’ll have the biggest chair, because I’ll be President,” he added.

    What a big-headed somebeech!

  265. inimla

    WORM !!!!!

    ROTFLMAO! I love that. Just what we need; another inarticulate ADD, linguistically challenged prez. I saw a comedy skit about GWB and his mother and they were doing the pledge of allegiance and GWB couldn’t remember it so Barb was feeding him the lines but then GWB couldn’t pronounce the big words like indivisible . . . .
    My real worry is this: The country has displayed enormous proficiency in electing idiots to the highest office of the land…..

  266. mj,
    “You know, what is so sick about him, is he lies about Bill Clinton. He’s trying to make people doubt their own friggen memories.”

    I believe it’s called revisionist history. You know the saying that the one who wins gets to rewrite the past. What’s so galling about bambi is that he’s trying to do it before he’s even the nominee. And some people are buying into it. But then again he is the Jedi Mind Control Master.

    👿

  267. Gotta love the ABC website headline

    ‘Small Town’ Showdown: Rivals Rip Obama Talk on ‘Bitter’ Pennsylvanians

    Ouch that gotta hurt.

  268. Yes but from what I am seeing, this is very very bad for Obama.

    Republicans sense an opportunity in the developing storm over Barack Obama’s remarks.

    His comments have been distributed to allies on Capitol Hill, to members of the Pennsylvania press corps, to talk radio hosts across the country, to Republican state parties and to the congressional campaign committees. The National Republican Congressional Committee is using the statement to whack Chris Carney, an endorser of Obama and vulnerable frosh member of congress from Pennsylvania.

    Looks like he has really got some “splaining” to do.

  269. moonpluto,Conspiracy buff that I (sometimes) am, it just crossed my mind that what if Bambi KNOWS he’s gonna lose PA and the other big states and KNOWS there’s more sh!t coming his way and is deliberately passing the ball to McCain to circumvent an HRC GE victory if she’s the nominee?

    Then everyone can blame her for losing the presidency and he is perfectly positioned for 2012.
    Now, I’m not saying Bambi would be capable of devising such a plot but I wouldn’t put it past Axelrod.
    👿

  270. oh oh, you know its bad when big league Obama supporters are leaving comments on pro bama sites to the extent of “this is a total candicy destroying fuck up” and “why,why, why, did he say that” or my personal favourite “could he just not have just shut up and thought about what he was saying for a minute”

  271. Haven’t been here lately, but I’m officially announcing this latest thing Obama said as “Snobgate.” I think this has legs, since both the Clinton camp and the McCain camp are all over this. CNN dedicated their entire 7:00 pm hour to it. Obama is simply an elitist snob who has no clue about the feelings and motivations of average Americans.

  272. slowly but surely all these things are adding up to paint not a very nice picture of the Obama’s.

    Could just be the last straw.

  273. let’s hope even if Drudge has wiped it off, the rest of the Republicans won’t let this go; from TM poster:

    Plus: Rove says on Fox that this will “doom” any chance he has at winning Pennsylvania, while conservative Grover Norquist goes further, telling ABC News: “That sentence will lose him the election.”

    thepage.time.com/2008/04/11/obama-small-town-pennsylvania-clinging-to-guns-religion-antipathy-because-theyre-bitter/

    Guns, God and Government
    Obama Courts Bitter and Clingy Pennsylvanians
    abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105455&page=1

    McCain aide Steve Schmidt: “It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking. It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

    30yrdem

  274. I would love to see the day when Mr. Ego has to walk back into the Senate and vote against himself to ratify the November election for Hillary. Thats if he even gets that far…I hope he shames himself right out of the Senate or at the very least they put him up on ethics charges

  275. For your amusement,

    Snooping at DU and spot a thread called “Is anyone else angry they’re not carrying Bambi’s speech on live TV?”

    Instead they wanna rehash the same old tabloid bullshit over and over. So people only get small snippets of his complete words.

    ????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  276. whats the saying….. when your in a hole stop digging…

    it’s one thing to give repugs the gun..but BHO insists on giving them the bullets too

  277. basil, isnt it fun watching the twits at DU get beside themselves over this, they totally have their knickers in a knot, they know Obama just dropped a big doggy turd on the carpet and its stinking up the entire house.

  278. I personally don’t think that bambi would have contrived ‘bittergate’ on purpose. It’s got too much potential for damaging him not just in PA, as the comments he made are part of a much larger pattern of disturbing comments coming from his mouth. Together they all add up to trouble for him in the GE with working-class white voters.

    Then again, bambi has said and done stupid things before so he’s got a track record 🙂

  279. Debbie, not just the bullets its like a computer game, he’s upgrading the weaponary now, we’re on level six and we’ve just got the elephant gun.

  280. Hillary said she will spend every day WORKING for us.

    He’s so shallow. We don’t need thoughts…we need ACTION ..

    again, just words, no action

  281. Jen, thats because it is a direct attack on small town americans.

    This is a spin doctors nightmare. Hillary should win PA in a landslide now.

  282. Actually, most of the commentators tonight, seemed stunned at this one, its like, you can see them thinking it, that they cant believe how a big a fuck up he’s made. Its written all over their faces.

  283. hannity, sounds like obama is calling the people in PA “gun toting,bible thumping,bigots” (ha ha ha!)

  284. jen – I’m surprised too, that Rezko, Ayers haven’t exploded onto the scene…while Snobgate has such legs (well, we will see).

    basil – i don’t think this is contrived either. he’s spending way too much money on advertising in PA (2.2 million per week) to intentionally lose. his remarks are a pattern – everything from talking about arugula and Whole Food to Iowans, to insulting farmers as inbred – it just finally got to critical mass and being under the front runner microscope and being a republican target to finally explode.

  285. yup djia, thats what i’m guessing a lot of people will be thinking “did that SOB just call me that”

  286. HRC up to 638 G. 3 times what it was this morning!

    😀

    Moonpluto – I gotta admit it IS fun to see them squirm. So glad you linked DU.

  287. jen

    i was born in MI..and yes, it is “michigander” 🙂

    funny how the slightest remarks show the true character. PA will hear this loud and clear.

  288. Got a question about HRC’s health care plan:

    Does it garnish wages for those who can’t afford health care?

  289. andy card said this is pieces of the puzzle of bo and mo..and theres more,,and it will come together.they dont represent there concerns to this country..
    keep going andy you tell em..

  290. linfar Says:
    Paddyrhill,
    Yu have just regurgiated a mountain of chinese propaganda

    Linfar, I think you have drunk the neo-lib Koolaid for too long. So what if you are a Tibetan Buddhist. So were all the other Tibetans who were doing mean things to other Tibetans for all those years. All in the name of heaven. I guess you really did not read my post that carefully. Too anxious to discredit it I suppose. If you would have read it you would have seen that the info I was given was by Tibetans and not Chinese, and not by just a few but by many. And for the most part they were common folks, like those selling Tibetan trinkets to tourists, workers in restaurants, entertainers, etc. They all speak Chinese. Most came from families that had been oppressed in the “good old days.” They had some sad tales to tell. The neo-libs depend on people like you to not catch them in their lies, because on this topic they know most people can not converse on their own in Chinese or Tibetan with Tibetans.

    I refer readers to any off-the-shelf history book on Tibet. You will see that many times Tibetans have violently invaded their neighbors including China. So much for peace. Tibetan Buddhism is just another male chauvinistic religion oppressing common folks, especially women, kind of story.

    We all know from our support for Hillary how clever the neo-lib media is. Their typical half-lie concerning Tibet is to say that the Chinese media is state-controlled and thereby not to be believed. That part is true. I certainly would not depend on it as my main source of information either, especially on Tibet. But the half-lie is the assumption that since their stories are not state-controlled, they are more truthful. I think we all know on this site exactly how truthful the neo-lib media is. It is as long as you support their ideas.

    Tibet is a darling of the neo-libs. Iraq was for the neo-cons. The neo-libs control the media, and especially the internet blogs. Go do your own search to see if you can find any objective reporting about Tibet. You will find about as many as you will find ones concerning Hillary.

    You can have your male dominated religions, including Tibetan Buddhism. I don’t believe all this peace business they are spewing for even one second. All major religions are about male religious myths, are run by males, suppress females and belittle their values, and have all used and continue to use male violence to maintain male power. The power struggle in Tibet today is between competing groups of males seeking power through violence. It is the same thing males are doing to keep women from gaining the White House. They used violence to keep the vote from women, and as we have seen on this blog today, they even use it against 90 year old ladies to keep us from sharing power with males at the highest level.

  291. I wonder if Olbermann is going to do a Special Comment about how Presidential candidates shouldn’t be insulting the working-class in PA and how anti-American that is.

  292. filbertsf, no, it does not garneish wages–that’s an Obama smear. it will subsidize people who can’t afford it

  293. hi hillfans, this comment about obama saying voters in pa are ‘BITTER” is the nail in his momentum there.

  294. moonpluto

    “Actually, most of the commentators tonight, seemed stunned at this one, its like, you can see them thinking it, that they cant believe how a big a fuck up he’s made. Its written all over their faces.”

    Especially Ogremann. He seemed positively subdued when i tuned in by mistake.

    OK, all. I’m off to dream about HRC’s victory. 😀
    Have more good fun tonight.

  295. paddy4hill,

    I will be happy to debate you on tibet anytime, anyplace, anywhere.

    But right now I am consumed with helping Hillary to become the nominee.

    Why not shelve your rant about tibet and get on with same.

  296. filbertsf, no. She said that they will look at different methods for payment (which will be limited to a small percentage of income).

    They may work with employers to have it voluntarily taken out, like your company health plan insurance is now. They may do something where it gets debited against tax refunds. She says there are different ways to do it, and she and Congress will look at what ways will work best.

  297. Filbertsf:
    I spent over 8 years overseas in the military, and they (Europeans) pay about 30% of their taxes to the government. Here we pay about 32% and we still do not have medical coverage by trhe government. I prefer to pay a little more in taxes and have my neighbor with medical cover.

  298. capedi,

    Fowler who I know from huffpo sat on the story for a week! She also tried in her story to mitigate the comments every which way to Sunday. I don’t think we should go overboard when people take a week to do their job,which is report what happened Accurately.

  299. Thanks guy. There are a lot of people who are misinformed as to Hillary’s healthcare plan. I knew her plan didn’t include wage garnishment, but two posters on this forum repeated the same thing.

    I guess Obama’s “Harry and Louise” smear is working.

  300. lninla
    I think one of the FOX commentators Julia, said it right… BHO doesn’t have a lot of experience so his WORDS matter

    since everyone else around him is screwing up he is removed from it (for now) but when he himself blunders that goes to the very heart of who he is.

  301. well he might have just screwed up montana and south dakota …Hillary wins..people wont like that statement in these states either..small towns not very big cities..its slander towards hard workin americans.. he needs to get out of the race
    i dont want preaching speeches everyday for his big goof ups..get out now bo..your done..people in these 2 states will never give up there guns.or listen to your drifting crap and make Americans look stupid,or bitter hes the bitter one..he cant trounce over hillary or mccain.Hes loosing it..put the pressure on him to get out of the race.she had aa’s in her crowds there not fools listening to this jerk

  302. filbertsf Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
    Got a question about HRC’s health care plan:

    Does it garnish wages for those who can’t afford health care?

    NO. That has been one of the lies Bo has been spreading in his stump speeches.

  303. One more;
    Paddy:

    “even use it against 90 year old ladies to keep us from sharing power with males at the highest level”

    Are you referring to ABM? He’s a guy. 😀

    BTW – I completely agree with your position on religion. Personally, I have my own. It’s a church of one. 👿

  304. Linfar, nothing to debate. Facts are facts. It’s your problem and not mine.
    The issue here is one concerning propaganda and not really Tibet. People are awaking to the fact that the public is being misled by a male controlled media, not just about Hillary, but on many issues. My point has been made.

  305. I gotta admit, BO’s comment is offensive. Normally, I would think, “Who cares?” But I’d be offended too if someone call SF bitter or harbor “antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”

    I remember a few nights ago, someone on this site said San Franciscans don’t respect the troops. That got me angry b/c it paints us all with a broad stroke and plays on stereotype.

    I wonder how Bob Casey feels that the man he endorsed thinks he’s bitter and a xenophobe.

  306. linfar: I understand, but now that the cloud has parted for her, and she can see what an empty suit he is, And she will get all types of attack from the obamabots. We need to be there for her. Maybe there is more that she needs to get of her chest.

  307. capedi, she is still drinking the kool-aide. Trust me on that one 🙂 When I worked at Huffpo, she was supposed to praise and glorify Obama, I was supposed to attack and criticize Hillary. I quit. She didn’t and she has carried his water for months.

  308. thanks basil for letting me know he is a guy and not a her. Doesn’t matter much. Men use as much violence against other men as they do against women.

  309. Here is the thing now.

    THESE WORDS HE SPOKE .. all the rest of the stuff they keep saying, well those were not his words,

    THESE WERE HIS WORDS…

    These will stick.

    These are most likely not isolated comments either.

  310. this is what happens when you run a personality based campaign instead of an issues based campaign. your every word is paramount because we don’t know where you really stand on anything you have no track record. now he has to give a speech to clarify…this is weak…everytime he misspeaks he has to give a speech…notice that this guy does not give press conferences..thats because he is dangerous speaking off the cuff, imo. some how i think the repubs are going to have a field day with this guy. both jonnymac and hrc are known quantities, bho is not

  311. I agree with you about that, but we need to show that we are here to help people see how the have been swindle.

  312. paddy,
    He wrote such an emotional expose and I had thought ABM was a woman but today he posted he’s a 90 tear old world war11 4 time decorated vet.

    😀

  313. linfar,

    I agree with you about that, but we need to show that we are here to help people see how the have been swindle.

  314. filbertsf: I was on another board, a few days ago, and someone made a broad stroke comment about the people in Congress from CA, having a history for making assinine comments or being incompetent, based upon, some obtuse comment made by Congressman Issa from San Diego. I felt offended, and responded, that CA was a very diverse state, and not everyone from CA, is the same. BO clumped middle America, into one group, which is offensive.

  315. i think the speech thing wont having any legs,he can only do it so many times.Anything he says wont erase these words he has spoken…..Hes doomed himself out of the race for the rest of the states.They will stick!!!! anyway all this stuff with wright and ayers and sinclair…and his wifes IM proud for the first time in my adult life, to be proud of my country..HUH!!! ( think there is more lotts more Who are these people
    America does not know them,and there true beliefs,we will never know,until the media does a deep down digging.someone has to bring the truth out on these Obamas,America needs to know,and has the right to know.IF running for the Highest office.

  316. video of BO’s response to “bitter-gate” in IND.tonight

    youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/

  317. The audio is difficult to hear. It is not very clear.

    Linfar: The diary on Mydd, from the guy in Montana, is very good.

  318. video of BO’s response to “bitter-gate” in IND.tonight

    (you need to delete the spaces in the link below)

    youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow&eurl=h t tp:/ / w w w . dailykos . com/

  319. On the gay rumor:
    Days before the Iowa caucus – found it bewildering, to say the least, that the popular twenty-year choir director (20 years – sound familiar?) was found MURDERED by MULTIPLE GUNSHOT WOUNDS on Christmas Day – BUT and this is a HUGE BUT – was not reported by MSM for over two days. I remember thinking at the time that the Obama camp, MSM, and the Chicago PD had to be in collusion, because with the notoriety of BHO coming up on the FIRST caucus – this SHOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE NEWS. Instead, it was literally buried on the back page – I blogged and blogged all over comment sections in msm outlets – to no avail. In one snippet – it was mentioned that he was known to be gay.

    I’m telling you, people – this was so weired at the time for this to NOT EVEN BE REPORTED FOR TWO DAYS! So, it would not surporise me at all if this was a Chicago hit. Not al all. Go back and try to find an article on the days after the murder. You won’t find any because there weren’t any. A popular choir director for TWENTY YEARS, going unreported from BHO – new politician, just entering his first caucus? Like Bill Cosby says, “Come on, people!”

  320. basil, I thought by his writing he was female too. Maybe men can get more in touch with their feelings as they age? Become more expressive? My father has.
    I am especially impressed by his desire to live long enough to see our first woman president. What a remarkable person. He obviously received those medals for doing something honorable. Well, looks like he is still brave, still fighting for his country. May his wish be granted soon. Go Hillary!

  321. I am sorry but what on earth? The choir person has zip to do with BO. Please, no need to reach so far, and Sinclair is just looking for 15 minutes.

  322. I went to the cnn post of this comment obama made and I have never seen so many obamanots on a comment blog before! Almost all were outraged that clinton, can you believe this shit clinton brought this up and how dare she! The problem is that the obamanots are sooo spoiled on cnn that they know that that place has there back and they get angry when its not on there side, and the worst part is that they don’t care, everyone this is almost a cult here ok they don’t care what this man does or says. If this was hillary, cnn would have there microphones up there butts! PLEASE SOMEONE GET ME THE NUMBER TO CNN/ROLAND MARTIN AND CAFFERTY, WE NEED TO DO A PHONE BOMB AND START ASKING FOR THERE RESIGNATION, OR TO SHUT THE HELL UP! MARTIN WILL ALWAYS DEFEND THIS CROOK AND CAFFERTY JUST NEEDS TO FALL DOWN AND HIT HIS HEAD!

  323. hopefully HRC will take take the “bitter blasphemy” to every rust-belt community, including PA, IN and MI.

  324. linfar Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
    capedi, she is still drinking the kool-aide. Trust me on that one When I worked at Huffpo, she was supposed to praise and glorify Obama, I was supposed to attack and criticize Hillary. I quit. She didn’t and she has carried his water for months.

    You worked for huffpo? Wow, you should write about that.

  325. BHO can now forget the undecideds and independents now not just in PA but just about everywhere else.

    What he has just done is unfortunately push more independents away from voting for democrats. Hillary will bring them back though.

    This man is more of the same that we just had 8 years of. He’s inexperienced like
    GWB was and he can only speak intelligently when he has a teleprompter or script in front of him..ok GWB couldn’t do that.

    But seriously, go back 8 years ago and GWB was going to be the great uniter, the guy every American wanted to have a beer with or maybe a line. The guy that was supposed to change Washington. GWB also won 30 states in the GE lost the popular vote but won the electoral college

  326. see the big media is already making this an ATTACK by Hillary and mccain on him .. rather than focusing on the fact that Obama dissed the whole state of Pennsylvania.
    \\

    They have so tanked the media for Obama that unless the print media get this out to the voters and the campaign does ..

  327. Whether choir director linked to BHO or not mj, you have to admit it’s bizarre to not have ANY reporting WHATSOEVER of a POPULAR LONG-STANDING (TWENTY-YEAR) Choir Director, when he was the choir director that BHO would have had to know (20 years?) as a BRAND NEW politician is about to enter the presidential scene within days in the Iowa caucus. You have to ask the question as to WHY WAS THIS NOT FOUND IN ANY NEWS OUTLET FOR AT LEAST TWO DAYS? That’s reeks of cover-up.

  328. Hannity doing obama/ayers this sunday 😀

    Gretta is also covering the “bitter-gate” story 😀

    I have seen articles on this issue just about everywhere it sure will have legs over the weekend and will carry onto all next week too, as it will be next week before they cover any comments from obama (as said on dobbs)

    i don’t think the media can even spin this one away from obama, he was attacking mc cain and Hillary in that statement….msm already said clinton has the right to go after him on this (even olberman/todd said this) …big damage is already done!!

  329. Hillbilly: how is he agitating? That is his MO, agitating. Remembering the article about the grassroots organizing? Rubbing the sore spots.

  330. cnn, erica hill and candy a$$ already trying to smooth coat it. Only mention “bitter” .. nothing about bibles, guns, etc.

    they make me sick. off with cnn I should have known they’d sugarcoat for the candyman.

  331. IMO, this latest Obama flap isn’t going to be the “it” we all dream of, or even particularly damaging.

    I pointed out a few weeks ago the media was beginning to issue a
    “BO is Teflon” narrative, which was their cop out.
    They’ll of course use it at every opportunity.

    On another level, there’s audio only of it, and the remarks themselves were too drawn out, not that it’d matter with the editorial state of the media.

    He could’ve said “All Americans that live in small towns are assholes”,
    and they’d angle that off to.”
    They’ll give this faux ‘controversy’ coverage, make it seem like the story for a day, maybe two, then move in another direction (as I see upthread it’s already begun).

  332. so now he is making different statements TONIGHT than what he did the other night? OMG this is getting deeper

    Get his comments tonight and get them to media…

  333. Admin & B Merryfield:

    No doubt you noticed the total blackout of the popular (gay) murdered choir director on Christmas last year, only days before the Iowa caucus set to propel BHO onto the national stage. I mean it would be different if he had been killed tragically in an accident, but murdered of multiple gunshot wounds? I remember thinking at the time that the Chicago PD had to be hiding something on orders from Obama camp, and this was really before wer know that MSM was in the tank for BHO, but now it all makes sense. So, I think it is fair to ask what the relationship was between BHO and this long-standing twenty-year choir director. Fraternal, whatever. Twenty years is twenty years. Fair question, n’est pas?

  334. Now with his new speech I’ve added a new one:

    Typical bitter white gun-toting immigrant-hating nafta-cursing homophobe jesus freaks in small town PA!

    They are mad as hell and the aren’t going to take it anymore!

  335. Those still watching Olbermann… what did he have to say about BO’s comment? Did he even mention it?

  336. if you read his statements from the fundraiser and see his comments from tonite..he is trying to change to subject..his original comments were derisive and demeaning..oh and speaking of the bankruptcy bill…did’t he vote for ” no limits” on interest that can be charged by cc companies…just askin…

  337. Hillbilly, it’s obvious that BO thought that’s what San Franciscans think about Pennsylvanians. He was trying to “speak our language.”

    Perhaps to a small blue dem crowd in PA, Obama is calling us free-willing, military-hating, morally-flexible cretins. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what he really thought of us.

  338. debbie, I take offense to links from zombietime.

    Zombietime makes it their mission to mock San Franciscans and liberals in general.

  339. filbertsf Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
    Hillbilly, it’s obvious that BO thought that’s what San Franciscans think about Pennsylvanians. He was trying to “speak our language.”

    No. I think that’s what he really thinks.

  340. On the flip side, this one would have significant weight with super delegates.

    How many of them are from small towns where they now KNOW a repub onslaught will render BO virtually unelectable?

  341. Blue Dem, I have to disagree with you. I think what he said was actually pretty offensive. They cling to religion and guns because they are bitter? He sounds like a snob blaming voters who don’t support him, which he has a history of doing.

    Further, BC should slam him. PA unemployment went from 7.2% to 4.6% in the 90’s. Bill Clinton lead this country to the greatest surplus we’ve ever seen and Bush pilfered it. He’s such an idiot.

  342. Gee, wonder how come there’s NO mention of BO’s remarks on HuffPost?

    The media situation is so fractious, so insane right now it’s not even funny. Tavis Smiley apparently quit his radio show today.

    Bill Richardson should shave & STFU.

  343. a friend of mine who is from pa and is there now helping hillary emailed me tonight wondering i fi heard of the bo remarks. she told me she is from sm town pa and is there now. she called it a wildfire of fury. its the last straw. people are insulted hugely. that is what she told me. she said it is huge.

  344. mj, you might be right. I wonder if he feels the same about his mother’s native state of Kansas. They “cling” to religion and guns there, too, don’t they?

    On Mark Halperin’s preview of the Time’s coverstory on Obama’s mother, Obama is quoted as saying she was “reckless.”

  345. debbie, San Franciscans are not “elitists”

    If Obama thought that his comments were a crowd pleaser, why blame this on SFer? It’s his big, fat mouth.

  346. mj,

    He called me yesterday and said, ‘I quit,'” Joyner said.
    Joyner said Smiley told him he was working on too many projects, but believed the real reason was that “he can’t take the hate.

    “He can’t take the hate he’s taken over Barack Obama. He’s always busting Barack Obama’s chops. They call. They e-mail. They joke. You know Tavis like I do. He needs to feel loved”…
    Smiley had been critical of Obama for not attending Smiley’s annual “State of the Black Union” symposium on Feb. 23. Of the presidential candidates, only Sen. Hillary Clinton accepted the invitation. Obama said he would send his wife, Michelle, but Smiley insisted that was not good enough.

    “I’m catching hell,” Smiley acknowledged in an interview then with Michael H. Cottman of BlackAmericaWeb.com.

  347. any new superdelegates from today?

    did the gov of montana endorse her or was this just something that he sees through obama?

  348. I think peope have always been fairly religious in much of the country. Wasn’t he running as the religious candidate all last year? Now suddenly religious people are clinging to it out of bitterness? That’s just so snobby. Lot’s of people do think like that though. Like Bill Maher, who kept insisting that Hill’s voters basically were racist if they were not voting BO. Its narrowminded and elitist. I think Obama’s message is Bill Bradley’s message and that why people who don’t identify with him racially, don’t vote for him.

  349. filbertsf Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
    debbie, San Franciscans are not “elitists”

    Some are. Just like some in Boston are. I don’t think you believe there are elitist. I think there certainly are.

  350. filbertsf

    I really don’t feel like getting into it with you over Californians, I’ve worked this state from top to bottom, nothing you could say would be new to me.

  351. BHO hates typical white people, women (his mother and white grandmother anyway) guns, gays, religion, and is anti-Semetic; however he embraces anti-Americanism, terrorism, and anything pro-Palestinian (Arab/Muslim). So, BHO supporters – which part of UNELECTABLE in GENERAL ELECTION don’t you understand? Spin that one, if you can even get a handle on it anymore. He has Antichrist written all over him.

  352. Senator Obama belligerently pushed for the Clinton tax returns,a nd the 1000’s of pages of her calendar. Yet at the same time, his calendars are nowhere to be found. Let’s be realistic– he is the political arena; he is running for political positions; staffers would be keeping accurate stats for future questioning. But, of course, his staffers are the one’s who say that he knew the Ayre’s because their children were in the same school when Obama went to Ayre’s home in 1995….. problem is….. he had no children at that time!this blogg was right..he had no kids..LIAR

    curiosityhasme..
    larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/obama-attorney-steps-in-it/#comments
    htt p only..i think this guy is not so crazy he writes very intellectually.

  353. When I first heard the bitter comment this morning, I just smiled. It is getting a lot of air time around Phila and suddenly the Kool-aid has a bitter almond taste…

  354. Got me, Iwas refering to Obama’s comments being like taking cyanide in a state where once agian he fails to get that elussive knockout punch.

  355. anyone know the answer to my questions?

    Also, the comment he made will hurt him in PA when he goes there for the debate

  356. mj,

    i agree, i dont think he’s stupid enough to think, the ‘love fest’ city,
    looks down their noses at the poor. than again i could be wrong..

    i think, he thought by throwing in rhetoric about ‘small-town’, he was trying to say small minded… san franciscans are notoriously ‘inclusive’, and they like to think they fight evil repression.

    he tried to rally the billionaires to cough up that old ‘fight the good fight’ against racist, good ole boy, gun totin money…

    OH WELL, LOOKS LIKE THE REAL RACIST AGAIN, TURNS OUT TO BE
    OBAMA…
    BUMMER…

  357. No, HillBillyLover, I don’t think it’s over the top at all. You can’t even imagine the many people I’ve encountered who have stated that very belief to me, without any mention from me. I have thought this for months, but others are beginning to verbalize it now. Funny thing is, I’m no religious fanatic. I am an avid historian, and religion (of all kinds) intrigues me. But, he completely fits the profile, and made me rethink the Hal Lindsey books I read thirty years ago. Like one title says, “Satan is Alive and Well on Planet Earth.”

  358. Guess you can tell I’m part of the 28% and growing HRC supporters who will NEVER support BHO. N E V E R.

  359. And as for “sensationalism” – I just pay attention. Puzzled me imensely when BHO’s church choir director could be murdered, and it not be big news on the cusp of his political launch. Not only NOT big news, buried (no pun intended) on the back page in small print at the bottom DAYS later. COVERUP. Period.

  360. my opinion on this matter is this-i coem from a family of working class folks. my grandfathers had 8th grade eduation and worked in a plant for yrs in iowa. they are very sensitive to remakrs calling them hicks. i spoke to my midwestern gmother time and she is furious. she said-we know when we are being spoken down to, period. we arent stupid bc we do jobs many wont do. and that is what is happenning this wekend in IN,PA,KY etc.. the white working class i think is fully done with bo. and his speech tonight made matters worse. he blamed hillary and mccain for the ills of the working class. in 10 days voters will vote against someone else not named bo in PA! he sounded “bitter” tonight, mean and was a typical dirty poll fr the public to see. the media may try and write this off-but like wright it wotn go away and its on tape for godsake. superds better be real nervous right now. aka john edwards-dont let this punk get away with smacking blue collar america.

  361. curiosity, are you accusing Obama of murder? Is that what you’re insinuating? Because if you are, you have to have evidence. That’s as simple as that. You don’t just accuse people of murder based on the fact the dead guy was at the same church and his murder wasn’t covered by the press.

    These murder conspiracies just remind me of what the GOP trash machine accused the Clintons of after Fosters suicide. We should not become what we hate about our enemies.

  362. curiosityhasme,

    Thought that was an excellent synopsis, one the campaign would do well to use, save the anti-christ part (in spite of what’s said about them in this campaign, President Clinton always has said – and followed it with actions – that it’s wrong to demonize your opponents, and I try and remember that).

    But it was the contrasts and how you succinctly combined them into a coherent narrative that people should note.

  363. Admin, can we get a front-page story here about Obama’s anti-working class comments? This story is blowing up quickly: it’s all over the Washington Post and other big news sites. Obama only made it worse tonight, too, saying in Indiana, “of course people are bitter.” The Republicans instantly pounced on the gaffe, as did Hillary — demonstrating that Obama’s remarks were so outrageous than everyone except Obama realizes what a dumb mistake he made.

    The Washington Post has a great article up, explaining how this latest gaffe shows how vulnerable Obama would be in the general election. This is EXACTLY the same mistake Kerry made: being out of touch with working Americans and swing-state blue-collar voters.

  364. Hillbill, thanks for the Smiley article. I didn’t know the AA community was giving him so much grief. He’s a tough man for daring telling the AA community to look pass color and examine the substance.

  365. From the Washington Post — breaking news about Obama’s latest gaffe:


    If Democrats are wondering what awaits Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) this fall if he becomes the party’s presidential nominee, the events of the past few hours should serve as something of a guide.

    Early this afternoon, The Huffington Post turned up audio from an Obama fundraiser in San Francisco in which the Illinois senator offered this take on Pennsylvania voters:

    “But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    Within moments, Republicans had pounced. Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser to Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign told Politico’s Jonathan Martin that Obama’s comment revealed “an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking.” Schmidt added: “It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

    Within hours, the National Republican Congressional Committee had issued a release pushing Rep. Chris Carney — a vulnerable freshman Democrat from Pennsylvania — to condemn Obama’s remarks.

    “It’s time for Congressman Chris Carney to step up and denounce Barack Obama’s condescending attitude about families who live in small towns and who hold a viewpoint other than Obama’s,” said NRCC spokesman Ken Spain.

    And, then, of course, came the inevitable Obama response — condemning the condemnation. “Senator Obama has said many times in this campaign that Americans are understandably upset with their leaders in Washington for saying anything to win elections while failing to stand up to the special interests and fight for an economic agenda that will bring jobs and opportunity back to struggling communities,” said spokesman Tommy Vietor. “And if John McCain wants a debate about who’s out of touch with the American people, we can start by talking about the tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans that he once said offended his conscience but now wants to make permanent.”

    The whirlwind pace from revelation to recrimination to rebuttal reveals just what Obama must be ready for if he becomes the Democratic nominee.

    Republicans are certain to use comments like this one to paint Obama as an out-of-step liberal beholden to the wants and needs of voters on the two coasts. It’s a blueprint Republicans followed to perfection during the 2004 campaign against Sen. John Kerry — effectively portraying the Massachusetts senator as an elitist without interest in or regard for the average voter in fly-over country.

  366. Yes, Obama certainly has screwed up tonight, all we need is a pics of him windsurfing with john kerry. Yep, I think that would do the trick!

  367. The biggest mistake Obama made is saying Pennsylvanians “cling to religion.” Which religion SHOULD they follow instead, Obama?! The one that says, God damn America?!?

  368. This shows not all AAs are into O. I admire Tavis for standing up to what he believes in. He is not fooled by this wolf in sheeps clothing, neither am i.

  369. Republicans Quickly Pounce on Obama Remarks
    UPDATE, 9:30 p.m.:

    Tonight during an appearance in Terre Haute, Indiana, Sen. Barack Obama directly addressed the growing controversy surrounding remarks he made about Pennsylvania voters.

    “I was in San Francisco talking to a group at a fundraiser and somebody asked how’re you going to get votes in Pennsylvania,” Obama said. “‘What’s going on there? We hear that it’s hard for some working class people to get behind your campaign.’ I said, ‘Well look, they’re frustrated and for good reason. Because for the last 25 years they’ve seen jobs shipped overseas. They’ve seen their economies collapse. They have lost their jobs. They have lost their pensions. They have lost their health care.'”

    Here’s the full clip as provided by his campaign:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow

    The Clinton campaign responded within moments. “Instead of apologizing for offending small town America, Senator Obama chose to repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week,” Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. “It’s unfortunate that Senator Obama didn’t say he was sorry for what he said.”

    McCain’s campaign, too, chimed in on Obama’s explanation. “Instead of apologizing to small town Americans for dismissing their values, Barack Obama arrogantly tried to spin his way out of his outrageous San Francisco remarks,” said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds. “Barack Obama thinks he knows your hopes and fears better than you do. You can’t be more out of touch than that.”

  370. UPDATE, from Washington Post, with Clinton campaign response, to Obama’s outlandish remarks in Indiana tonight (echoing his earlier statements that Pennsylvanians “cling to religion”)…
    ———
    Republicans Quickly Pounce on Obama Remarks

    UPDATE, 9:30 p.m.: Tonight during an appearance in Terre Haute, Indiana, Sen. Barack Obama directly addressed the growing controversy surrounding remarks he made about Pennsylvania voters.

    “I was in San Francisco talking to a group at a fundraiser and somebody asked how’re you going to get votes in Pennsylvania,” Obama said. “‘What’s going on there? We hear that it’s hard for some working class people to get behind your campaign.’ I said, ‘Well look, they’re frustrated and for good reason. Because for the last 25 years they’ve seen jobs shipped overseas. They’ve seen their economies collapse. They have lost their jobs. They have lost their pensions. They have lost their health care.'”

    The Clinton campaign responded within moments. “Instead of apologizing for offending small town America, Senator Obama chose to repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week,” Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. “It’s unfortunate that Senator Obama didn’t say he was sorry for what he said.”

    McCain’s campaign, too, chimed in on Obama’s explanation. “Instead of apologizing to small town Americans for dismissing their values, Barack Obama arrogantly tried to spin his way out of his outrageous San Francisco remarks,” said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds. “Barack Obama thinks he knows your hopes and fears better than you do. You can’t be more out of touch than that.”

  371. OBAMA ! The tongue is like a sword. When you live by the tongue you die by the tongue. You have just contracted Hoof in Mouth Disease.It is a common affliction of the inexperienced over reaching immature Wanna-Be politician and like so many others of your species it may well be fatal in your ill-concieved desire to be a leader.Your Crock has runneth over.BYE BYE BARRIE. Hello HILLARY.

    By ABM90 Going to hit the Hay Happy tonight

  372. Thanks, Blue Democrat. This is big — very big. It emphasizes Obama’s zany and out-of-touch religious beliefs, when he criticizes small-town America for “clinging to religion.” We’re getting a clear picture of what the guy really thinks, and it ain’t pretty.

  373. he made it worse i knew he would ..its really going wildfire.bvox..it has hit quite a few big newspapers all around the world..we are bitter americans…OH when the thruth is BO is out of touch….oh i havent seen mollyrichard here..or law schooldem..they must be in school..have you guys seen them here..

  374. yep mj i havnet seen idunn,i miss her comic..lol
    but lawscholl wrote me email way back ..and she never got back to me,and mollly havent seen her for along time..i miss them to mj..

  375. Hey CJ and mj…I am here! I been workin’ hard, but I’ve been readin’the blogs. I’ve been under the weather. I’ve been missin’ yall, though, and needed to say hi tonight.

  376. rjk1957 Says:

    April 11th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
    Those comments sure will not play well in SD and MT either.
    you got that rightrjk.ill.write that dang daschle..lol..he wont ever get elected.or tim johnson.

  377. I just saw somethin’ that I didn’t know was gonna happen…is there a “discussion” on faith with our girl and BO on Sunday? on CNN…?

  378. Well..let us get the names of people at the fundraisers…

    Silence is not an option whne he bashed small town folks inn America.

    Step down Madame speaker…this is your district where your chosen one insulted small town Americans ….

  379. Berkeley,

    Ya know, I generally try to be forgiving when it comes to the parsing of language, especially in campaigns.

    There’s so much being said & therefore so much to take out of context.

    I also try and be fair and recognize Obama’s a thoughtful (if deceitful) guy who’s both young and trying to sort through our complex problems, off the cuff.

    That said, the cumulative weight of recent remarks and revelations is starting to provide a clearer picture of the inner workings of his mind, and it is neither entirely coherent, correct, or pretty.

    Put another way, FUGM.

  380. what time is that on sunday..on faith…hillary has all the faith in the world…her faith is to help the American people.

  381. Obama Back Peddling :

    “Out of touch? Out of touch? I mean, John McCain–it took him three tries to finally figure out that the home foreclosure crisis was a problem and to come up with a plan for it, and he’s saying I’m out of touch? Senator Clinton voted for a credit card-sponsored bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to get out of debt after taking money from the financial services companies, and she says I’m out of touch? No, I’m in touch. I know exactly what’s going on. I know what’s going on in Pennsylvania. I know what’s going on in Indiana. I know what’s going on in Illinois. People are fed-up. They’re angry and they’re frustrated and they’re bitter. And they want to see a change in Washington and that’s why I’m running for President of the United States of America.”

    The Clinton campaign emailed around harsh comments from two Republican pundits:

    Grover Norquist: ‘That sentence will lose him the election… He just announced to rural America: I don’t like you.’ “Grover Norquist, the anti-tax activist who leads an influential weekly meeting of conservatives, went as far as to argue that Obama’s line would cost Democrats the White House. ‘That sentence will lose him the election,’ Norquist told ABC News. ‘He just announced to rural America: ‘I don’t like you.'” [abcnews.com, 4/11/08]

    Republican strategist Ed Rollins: Q: “On a scale of 1 to 10 how damaging is this?” Rollins: ‘Ten.’ [CNN, Lou Dobbs, 4/11/08]

    ** If you really want to get sick (anybody), read the repulsive Obama dick-licking from Jack Cafferty, Gloria Borger, & Jeff Tubin on CNN.**

  382. Thanks Blue Democrat re: BHO’s “attributes” – talk about diametrically opposed to anything patriotic. So much for Mom, baseball and apple pie. None of those seem to be part of his universe. I mean, really, who DOES he represent? I’ll tell you it’s nothing the TRUE democratic party wants to be associated with.

    And brickbats to filbertsf re: Choir Director murder
    Those were your words, not mine. It’s a mere observation that the entire story was covered up. I have absolutely no connections to ANYBODY, but I do pay attention to storylines, the way they are presented – in this case – NOT presented, and how this POPULAR person was summarily dismissed. That’s horrible. Why hasn’t there been published reports about suspects or arrests by his darling mainstream media on this subject? I mean, it’s not like we haven’t heard plenty about TUCC by now. Yes, I stated that it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a hit job. After all, this IS the southside of Chicago we’re talking about – and the Chicago Mob is real, as well. I’d be willing to bet this will eventually be addressed later rather than sooner, but doesn’t change the way the whole story was swept under the rug. Shady. Ver, very shady IMHO.

  383. Well that’s some kind of timin’ isn’ it…Lordy yall the fight has been hard, but I’m still here for our gal. I just heard about it today, but I have been watchin’ a lot less tv. Berkeley, I agree, with your comments above, I thought Hillary releasin’ a policy on crime was great. Stayin’ focused on movin’ forward with new ideas and superdelegates is just great. Admin, I had to come on and say thank you for the clip with Sir Elton. And I particularly appreciated your comments this evenin’.

  384. GREAT ARTICLE HERE : h t t p: / / 12counts.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/obamas-negative-campaigning/

    ALOT great talking points!

  385. the “it” I am talkin’ about at 11:48 is the forum on faith which outta be interestin to say the very least. The big boo boo moment today…priceless

  386. Hmmm. Taylor Marsh website is down. No Quarter (another pro-Hillary site) was hacked and taken down yesterday, but is back up now. The owner confirmed that he’s pretty sure it WAS a hack.

    I am hoping that they have not hit Taylor’s site now.

  387. What some Obama supporters are saying;

    “I think we’ve been given a peek into Obama’s soul, so to speak.
    He’s bright, talented, and highly conflicted. I think he was bitter and he found solace among people who were even more bitter and let their anger feed his anger. This is not entirely a bad thing. Controlled anger can be a strong motivating force. But when you try to move too fast, audacity becomes arrogance.
    I feel very sad about Obama. I think he could have been great. I don’t think he will be, though. He’s going to either lose the election and be consigned to “what might have been”, or he will win and be a mediocre, divisive President. If he had just waited a bit, grown a bit as a politician, I think he could have been great.”

  388. it’s about time…the truth is revealed…imagine that obama doesn’t like the rural folks and the workin’ folks…we’re gonna unite ’em, guess what, “I don’t like ’em but we’re gonna unite them.” I hope it gets plenty of airtime before big brother erases it. Hey mj hows it been goin…I had to take a little time out.

  389. confloyd – I’m having problems also getting on TM. It’s down. Did read on Noquarter that their server “mysteriously” went down as well even though their traffic was fairly steady. This is where I think conspiracy – what the heck is going on? Axelrod hiring professional hackers?

    Some people were asking about the protest today. Here’s pics and a rundown:

    mydd.com/story/2008/4/11/152112/023

    Mad as Hell Protest today at Today – With Pic

    by NewHampster, Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 03:21:12 PM EST

    Wish I could have made it. Here is the report from HillaryClintonForum.net

    We had about 150 people there. Some got there at 6:30a.m.

    Women, men, people of all color. People drove from Philly. Woman took the night bus down
    from Boston. People from Texas, some foreigners, the NC contingent and two lovely African
    Americans who made the trip in from Connecticut. Eyedoc, front and center. Les33 with the
    Bullhorn!!! Freethinker and Murray were interviewed by O’Reilly’s producer. The papers were
    there taking lots of pics. Hillary speaks for me was there interviewing as well.

    Everyone was so thrilled to be there and so enthusiastic. Yelled all during the Today show.
    Lots of police to keep us away and then they wouldn’t let us use the bullhorn b/c Today show
    was still going on. Funny how they moved their stuff way down to the other end and kept the
    Singers on well past the TV time. Trying to shut us up I think.

    Huge Gallery of Pictures here web.mac.com/csa4/iWeb/Site/Photos .html

  390. yep molly the boo boo moment lol…
    see mj miss ya too..i thought oh geez i type her name and there she is…im glad ya keep up with hill though

  391. North Carolinians will not be pleased with Obama’s comments. By the way, I stood on a street corner with signs today for an hour near my home. The reception was warm, although the Republicans who live in my area voiced their support for John McCain. I distributed buttons, and I even gave one woman a yard sign.

  392. uh, no, I think most of North Carolina won’t like it very much. There’s a lotta rural, working people down there. I also think that the true colors are shinin’ through.

  393. I’m having problems also getting on TM. It’s down. Did read on Noquarter that their server “mysteriously” went down as well even though their traffic was fairly steady. This is where I think conspiracy – what the heck is going on?
    Axelrod hiring professional hackers..probably..i was thinking that too..

  394. Bill Clinton needs to stop talking about Bosnia. Please leave it alone. It died two weeks ago and despite his intentions, I think he’s making it worse.

  395. capedi Says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    linfar: I understand, but now that the cloud has parted for her, and she can see what an empty suit he is, And she will get all types of attack from the obamabots. We need to be there for her. Maybe there is more that she needs to get of her chest.

    Who are you talking about?

    A sympathetic place for doubting and recovering Obama supporters was started at politwix.com, dunno how it’s doing.

  396. I’m watching an old special comment from Olbermann. He’s defending Hillary from an attack by the Pentagon.

    The good ol’ days. I remember his interviews with Bill and Hillary. At the time, I thought he had a great respect for both, which is why I’m surprised by the vitriole he seems to harbor towards them now.

    Obama kool-aid is powerful stuff.

  397. Hannity and Colmes doing a segment “breaking news” about Obama’s PA gaffe; of course, they also talk about Bill inserting himself in the Bosnia issue.

    Colmes defending Obama saying the other pundit, Andrew Card, was calling San Franciscans elitist and that’s stereotyping as well. Although Card should have pushed back and said, THEY WERE ELITISTS – it was a group of very wealthy people which was BO’s audience – San Franciscans or not, the very wealthy are the elite.

  398. Just goes to show that while a huge number of typical white Americans were willing to give BHO the benefit of the doubt, HIS (and MO’s) cynacism and bitterness is projected onto those who he professes to represent. His own conflicting racism and stereotyping of these hardworking-class Americans points up the stark contrast in day-to-day living. BHO has not had the true American upbringing, racial strife and all. Hawaii and Indonesia certainly don’t provide the all-American experience, and the streets of Chicago in no way convey the greatness of this country. Although he is educated in the ways of America, he has not had the real-life experiences to draw on that give him a real love and cherished patriotism for this country. He comes across as “generic.” As if he is applying for a position as CEO of ANY ole company. We need a president that loves this country with all of their being. That’s not rocket science. What is stupifying is that any intelligent, well-meaning person could think that his very specific and rather narrow perspective of America and background could form the basis for a serious presidential contender. Mind-blowing really. Preposterous, as a matter of fact.

  399. The worst thing Hill’s camp could do was to attempt to shackle President Clinton, which is just what her advisors have done.

    In hockey, there’s a rating for players on ice for goals for/goals against.
    It’s called plus/minus.
    And I’ll take Bill Clinton’s any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

    The man talks his lungs out, giving brilliant speech after brilliant speech, and the media (overlooks the brilliance – INTENTIONALLY!) and looks to nail him on the stupid little shit of little or no consequence.

    It’s a bunch of bull!

  400. Ininla,
    Ady Card is not only a pundit (he was spewing ridiculous RNC talking points on Obama) but the former WH Chief of Staff.

    Filbert,
    “Obama kool-aid is powerful stuff.”

    The GE employee manual is even stronger.

  401. hillary 4 t,

    i havent been able to get into either site all day..
    how are we doing here?

    ADMIN,

    CAN YOU STOP THE GOONS?

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  402. Agree, Blue Democrat. It’s like – what part of not having two presidents (with our country in the direst mess since WW II) don’t you understand? Speaking of mind-blowing and preposterous.

  403. origin.barackobama.com/resultscenter/

    this is so arrogrant of Obama to show that neither won Michigan and Florida. He wants the United States of America to represent 48 states not 50 This just makes me agitated because Im a Floridian and I can’t control what the party decided to do.

  404. BO he did sidestepp..1950dem..your right.he never succeeded either…he never said sorry apology..no never from him..
    he is getting deeper and deeper..he is at the scale 10 to 11 this was a BIG disaster.
    now he will be that BIg Liar again,and try to get out of it ..he wont not this time..its going around the world right now…you guys go to these sites
    lookout for these names..lol
    DemocraticUnderground.com, YouTube.com, and Digg.com, although their real names are not yet known. They are currently listed in the suit by their screen names: TubeSockTedD, mzmolly and OWNINGLIARS. Sinclair is seeking $3 million in damages.

  405. in context of Obama’s ELITIST attitude in regard to PA people – what Admin pointed out earlier about the pattern of purging the CA delegates in favor of “elitists” – BO bundlers, politicians the campaign owes favors to, and their friends, etc. is consistent with Obama’s snooty attitude:

    mydd.com/story/2008/4/10/133326/191

    And the Purge Begins: Progressives Stricken from Obama Delegate List

    by campskunk, Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 01:33:26 PM EST

    Well, interesting things indeed went on in the dead of night as delegate candidates are being evaluated by the Obama campaign in California to see if they’re worthy of inclusion as prospective delegates to Denver. Marcy Winograd over at the blog we do not name or link to said…

    By dusk on Wednesday, the California Obama campaign had purged almost all progressive anti-war activists from its delegate candidate lists. Names of candidates, people who had filed to run to represent Obama at the August Democratic Party National Convention, disappeared, not one by one, but hundreds at a time, from the Party web site listing the eligibles. The list of Obama delegate hopefuls in one northern California congressional district went from a robust 100 to an anemic 23, while in southern California, the list in Congressman Waxman’s district almost slipped out of sight, plunging from a high of 91 candidates to 17. Gone were strong women with independent political bases.

    Marcy went on to state that the remaining candidates appeared to be mostly “bundlers and their girlfriends”.

  406. I read one person’s comments on facebook that the Clinton’s adminstration for PA was one of the best as Clinton cut crime, increased employment in PA, and brought back business. It seems Obama is trying to paint the Clinton adminstration as a disaster but it was one of the best in a long time. He’s trying to portray the time as a disaster which is pathetic.

  407. clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/Pennsylvania.html – PA

    clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/Indiana.html – IN

    clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/North_Carolina.html – NC

    clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/West_Virginia.html – WV

    clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/Kentucky.html – KY

    clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/Oregon.html – OR

    clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/Montana.html – MT

    clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/South_Dakota.html – SD

    WOW!

    ADMIN YOU SHOULD MAKE A BLOG ABOUT THIS!

    CLINTON-GORE’s accomplishments! Since Obama sees the Clinton Adminstration as a failure. I think NOT!

  408. “Clinton cut crime, increased employment in PA, and brought back business.”

    Right – and could say that for nearly every state in the nation.

  409. MJ wrote: Sinclair is just looking for 15 minutes.

    This is so true, but the thing that is important about Sinclair is that he has pending court cases and according to the PR clip has been granted discovery priviledges. Remember that the Paula Jones case didn’t amount to anything (was it dismissed? I don’t even remember) but what was so damaging was that she was granted discovery priviledges that allowed defense attorneys to quesiton a sitting President under oath and manufacture a “gotcha” situation that resulted in impeachment.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s real or fake, it only matters that he has crossed a legal threshold and has been granted discovery priviledges. How far and in what context is not yet damaging, but once Obama has secured the nomination, the whisper campaign can begin. Reports on the real stuff that is happening (whether or not it’s related) will intermingle with the whispers and the damage will be done.

  410. curiosity..did you read some over there sinclair
    some very intelligent people posting..
    LARRYsays:I guess you see a different Obama, because the only thing this man has done for the less fortunate in his political career is make money for he and his wife, and used them for his own political gains. But then again, that is the normal Chicago style politics and the politics as usual that he claims needs to be changed. You continue thinking that you know, and you continue sitting up on that “Higher” bench looking down, and let me know when you get the same tingle in your leg that Chris Matthews gets over Obama. Seems by your account you have something in common, a DL Attraction that can only be explained by you being in an incapacitated state.

    i had to post..he is arguing with a poster there but see this man is with it totally with it..even he knows about chrism.made me lol.. blogg is antibo..he has lotts of support too.

  411. i think your correct nycmax..its that chatter whisper it can happen..he was granted privileges by the judge

  412. I think it is interesting that Obama’s little speech tonight left off a telling little line:

    “That’s what people understand about politics these days: the game is fixed. It’s not working for ordinary Americans. When I go around and talk to people, there is frustration, and there is anger, and there is bitterness. And what’s worse is when people are expressing their anger, and politicians try to say, what are you angry about?”

    Why did his campaign leave that line out of his video?

  413. good catch on that speech hillBillylover – I didn’t see or hear the speech – but sounds like they didn’t want that line to come back and haunt them, since more and more, it seems that everything is FIXED to try and nominate BO.

  414. wesawthat.blogspot.com/2008/01/proof-mainstream-media-knows-about-and.html

    httponly..i seen this yesterday..look who is looking

  415. You guys see this one?

    President Clinton yesterday, mocking Obama’s ad claiming he doesn’t take money from oil companies (which has been illegal for 100 years).

    “Next thing I know, we’ll have an ad say
    ‘You gotta vote for me for President, I Don’t Steal Cars.’ ”

    I could not love this man more…

  416. blue – i’m sure the media will twist that into some sort of racist remark. wouldn’t be surprised at a shitstorm over this now – another distraction to come.

  417. Just a general thought;

    wouldn’t it be nice if instead of campaigns trying to out-nasty each other, they tried to out-funny one another?

    now that I’m already dreamin’, night all…

  418. hi hillfans. wow, big media on tv and radio are all talking about obama’s “bitter” pa voter charge. KEEP THOSE BIG YAPS FLAPPIN BARACK!!!

  419. Ininla,

    Ok, I couldn’t turn off quick enough.

    If you want to look at it through that lens, there might be something to see. If you don’t want to see it, you won’t.
    That’s the beauty of it.
    If the race at this stage hinges in part on polarized voters staying that way, then it’s a reinforcement, and a vivid one.

    Long past the time worrying about what the media will do, for me that ended in late 1992. It sickens me, but it’s how it is.
    If not this, it’d be something else.

    The man knows what he’s doin’, I’ll leave it there…

  420. as much as i love bill clinton no matter what he says big media will twist to obamabots advantage. sad but true.

  421. just saw portion of his speech in Indiana to address his earlier words – he’s defiant, defensive, and takes himself out of context…he says people in PA are bitter (but he doesn’t repeat that therefore they become bigoted, gun-toting, xenophobic, religious zealots).

    I think the BO campaign’s tactic is to try and frame this as “bitter in PA” and get the press to repeat that only – and not the rest of the quote.

  422. i will donate more to hillary on payday thursday. i am tapped out now. anyway i have $10.00 per month taken out automatically for months to hillary along with other online donations i made the last few months. every little bit helps. she is so worth it.

  423. My take was Obama was trying to spin towards “people are bitter and want ‘Change’ – his supposed strength – which of course he stole from Bill Clinton.

    That and ‘Hope’ and countless other shit. Gotta go. Night’all.

  424. agree with you terrondt – Bill Clinton’s words will always be twisted, no matter how much we know his intention is in no way mean spirited.

  425. I just listened to the audio of Obama’s speech in San francisco, why was sheila Jackson Lee introducing him. I thought she was a Hillary supporter and I thought I heard say Hillary was a divider and Obama was a uniter! WTF is it with Sheila jackson lee? Isn’t she the one they booed in Houston?

  426. it is written over the top of the square it clearly says sheila jacksonlee introduces barack obama!

  427. I hope so, because that would be terrible, talk left needs to fix that, cause some people could make some crap about that!

  428. so they are telling him they are worried about all this racial discord and he tells them try slavery for awhile. what an asshole, this man needs to not be the president!

  429. I agree, that is not Sheila’s voice. You have to remember that audio piece is on Huffington post and they will do anything to make trouble for Hillary. They even have some moron who has an article up over there that Hillary is behind by 2 million votes in the popular vote count.

  430. what a terrible thing to mrs. lee, she’s taken alot of crap for Hillary, i guess they are trying to make trouble for her! He is the most divisive candidate i have ever seen!

  431. Got this from TalkLeft. Can you believe said this about Pro-Choice people:

    “The mistake that pro-choice forces have sometimes made in the past, and this is a generalization so it has not always been the case, has been to not acknowledge the wrenching moral issues involved in it,” he said.

    “Most Americans recognize that what we want to do is avoid, or help people avoid, having to make this difficult choice. That nobody is pro-abortion, abortion is never a good thing.”

    That guy is such a unifier.

  432. guys, rep. jackson-lee is a die hard hillary supporter and loyal. i doubt that she is the one in question introducing punk.

  433. LTNS Gang!

    I am just swooping in before well-earned sleep. I wanted to remind you all to keep spreading this URL far and wide. We have petitions coming in from all over the country and of course Florida, and good things are happening all over. Our website has rather slowed down because of volunteer stress, but that is in the process of being rectified. The counter has not changed in days, but FDR is sitting on hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of petitions as they are being logged and counted. We have several new county volunteer groups and are doing rallies on April 26 in Saint Petersburg, Orlando, Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Ft. Lauderdale and Ocala.
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  434. What I find sick is that obama is using his fundraising party as a tool now to make Clinton look like she doesn’t care about penn. He is saying that they should be bitter, and why doesn’t hillary see that! He is sick and the problem is guys that most that are voting for him are people that did and are now ashamed to have bush voters! Listen, if america is that dumb to vote for bush twice, TWICE! America is dumb still to listen to this salesman and vote again! I listen to his speeches and he stands there and really thinks hard on what to say next! WTF! He loves the fact that people are buying his shit! You know what he really wants to say to everyone, you are a bunch of freeken idiots, I should have been president along time ago!The scary part is that some penn people are going to agree with him and it may help him, what do you think?

  435. ADMIN: BRILLIANT AS USUAL:

    By dusk on Wednesday, the California Obama campaign had purged almost all progressive anti-war activists from its delegate candidate lists. Names of candidates, people who had filed to run to represent Obama at the August Democratic Party National Convention, disappeared, not one by one, but hundreds at a time, from the Party web site listing the eligibles. The list of Obama delegate hopefuls in one northern California congressional district went from a robust 100 to an anemic 23, while in southern California, the list in Congressman Waxman’s district almost slipped out of sight, plunging from a high of 91 candidates to 17. Gone were strong women with independent political bases.

    Marcy went on to state that the remaining candidates appeared to be mostly “bundlers and their girlfriends”.
    ————————————————
    If I did not like Jane Harmon as much as I do I would feel sorry for Marcy.

    But really. Doesnt this tell you everything you need to know about Bambi.

    He is a tool of big money.

    Combine this with the startling news in WashPo that he has big donors in his base and I’m shocked shocked because I believed what he told us all along that his base consisted of a trillion donors whow contributes a maximum of 29 cents each.

    If we cant make political hay out of this California bait and switch something is wrong. At the very least it deserves to be thrown back in the face of some rabid Obamaniac with a tagline that reads shows what he thinks of you and your kind sucker!

  436. Download and sign the petition!

    I must go to bed. Uncle Sam calls tomorrow, then back to MAKING FLORIDA COUNT!

    Admin….How are you!?

  437. hillfans, i have been trying to get on taylormarsh.com but unable too. anybody else having trouble with this?

  438. Look at how the AP has reframed the Obama PA comment story:

    TERRE HAUTE, Ind. – In the midst of an assault from his rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said Friday that many working-class Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have lost faith in Washington — and, as a result, vote on the basis of other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

    This is ridiculous. They’re turning BO into a victim of McCain and Hillary’s “assault” and not about the actual comments that were made.

    How did Pennysylvanians become “many working-class Americans?”

  439. Gosh…I so miss reading all the comments here. I am just on a mission! Wbboei…did you get my mails today?

    That mail campaign is getting through. And the DNC hung up on FDR today. He must be doing something right!

    Ok…gotta go.

    Love to you all.

    http://www.fldeservesrecognition.com/

  440. Now let me get serious for a moment. Why do you suppose he is salting his delegates with bundlers. Is this part of a strategy to intimidate whoever. Or is it just ego? It looked like a purge when I first saw it and at that point I seem to recall him claiming that it was to make sure they were loyal. Barck Obama: the great pretender. the man who never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

  441. If Bambi is in fact a tool of big money then one way to turn him inside out 10 ways from Sunday is to press him again and again and again for public financing of elections restore integrity to the system chase the money changers from the temple barack in line with hope audacity and a new kind of politics join me in taking this pledge open covenants no backroom deals sunlight is the best disinfectant electric light the best policeman common barck get real show us he courage of your convinctons say no to the money whores yes to the americn people for once in your life just once come clean, and while youre at is stop standing next to that paragon of virtue Reverend Wright and lecturing to us about our guns and our religion when its you and that racist kook beside you that we shoiuld all be worried about,

  442. you know folks, getting back to the antichrist theory, I just watched a two part series on youtube that shows the prophecies and how they fit with obama. He said if he wins everyone should grab their bibles and start reading.he also said if you are a democrat vote for Hillary and if you are a republican vote for Mccain! Do not vote for BO! he had some real convincing stuff on those videos!

  443. Seems like TM’s site is down. This is becoming a patter. No Quarter was down the other day, and it turns out it was hacked.

  444. Talk Left has been critical of Bambi, too. It’s probably next on the list. Hope Jeralyn is prepared.

  445. Anyways, over at TM’s, I named this latest thing Snobgate, and it seems to have caught on over there. 🙂

  446. I think Obama really got caught in an unscripted moment – with a group of his biggest donors. He was trying to explain to them why those blue collar voters might not vote for him, despite the money he is pouring into the state.

  447. filbertsf, i work 2nd shift eves so i just now started to try to log on tm. did not know of the problem earlier.

  448. well i will say goodnight, tomorrow i have a few more things to do to get ready for the new grandbaby:D

  449. ben, i agree. he get’s carried away a lot. like when he said”punished with a baby” comment a few weeks ago.

  450. Filbertsf-

    If this is what he said:

    “PA towns are bitter gun toting, religious nuts who are anti trade and immigrant”

    But this is what AP reported:

    Barack Obama said Friday that many working-class Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have lost faith in Washington — and, as a result, vote on the basis of other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

    Then there’s not a word of truth in the AP report.

    Do you intend to report this to Media Matters and tell them this is part of a consistent pattern by AP–because it most certainly is . . . .

    Or do you intend to let it ride?

    The reason it may be important to follow up is because their biased strories get republihed in newspapers across the country, and so do the falsehoods.

  451. wbboei, the AP is reporting on what Obama said today in Indiana… in essence, they are doing a bit of collusion.

    They are not explaining why Hillary and McCain are confronting Obama with his SF remarks. They are framing him as a victim and then — rather than quoting his SF remarks — writes up his Indiana version.

    So hit-and-run readers are thinking, “Geez, what Obama said makes sense. Why did Clinton and McCain assault him for stating the obvious?

  452. Here’s the key passage of the deceptiveness of the AP article:

    Clinton rebuked Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately last Sunday to a group of donors in San Francisco.

    No Mr. JIM KUHNHENN, the remark in SF is not “similar” to the remark made in Indiana. The remark in Indiana is damage control.

  453. This is what happened in California remember the whole republican comments about him kissing up to the reagan voters. He was kissing ass to the independents in california and it was turned against Hillary that she was going negative. He was just kissing to the independents and that was it!

  454. This guy over at Talk Left nailed it pretty good:

    “Just like Bosnia was so damaging for Clinton because it fit the meme of liar. This is evidence straight from the horse’s mouth that Obama is an elitist and a cultural alien. He is not a real American because he doesn’t think flag pins are cool, doesn’t always salute the flag, wants to eat arugula rather than corn or potatoes, lives in a mansion financed by someone with Arab connections, hangs with anti-American types who think white people are bad, Jews are a scourge, and bombs are good, oh and who now feels condescendingly comfortable with sharing with his fellow latte sipping limousine liberals that hunting and praising God is a delusional refuge for the bitter and unenlightened little people. “

  455. paddy4hill
    fact
    as men age the testosterone levels decrease and estrogen levels increase and the opposite is true for women

  456. Here’s my latest blog for your reading pleasure from politwix.com.

    Obama’s Judgment of Small Town America a Bitter Pill

    Barack Obama was at one of three $2300 ticket fundraiser’s held on April 6th, this one at so-called “Billionaire Row” in Pacific Heights a very wealthy suburb of San Francisco, when he made what I’m sure he thought was a thoughtful observation about the working class folks of Pennsylvania:

    “Our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives,” he said. “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are going to regenerate and they have not.”

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    This statement is offensive on many levels. First, the purpose appears to be an effort to tarnish the record of the previous Clinton administration and diminish the accomplishments of that time. During Bill Clinton’s administration Pennsylvania’s unemployment rate shrunk from 7.3% to 4.1 (which is considered nearly full employment). 486,300 new jobs were created in Pennsylvania from 1993 to 2000. 81,758 children received healthcare that didn’t have it before during this period, so Obama’s statement that “they fell through the Clinton administration” is disingenuous.

    Let’s examine his next statement:

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    Here Obama inexplicably ties Middle America’s beliefs about their second amendment rights, and their desire to exercise their freedom of religion under the Bill of Rights to bitterness over their woeful economic status brought on by government shortcomings over the last 25 years. He does this in such a way you would think he was describing someone turning to drugs or alchohol to escape their miserable lives.

    Hillary Clinton immediately addressed this statement with one of her own:

    “Pennsylvania doesn’t need a president who looks down on them,” she said told a rally. “They need a president who stands up for them, who fights for them, who works hard for your futures, your jobs, your families.”

    A spokesman for John McCain called Obama’s comments “remarkable and extremely revealing.”

    “It shows an elitism and condescension toward hard-working Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking,” said Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser to the Arizona senator. “It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

    Obama, in an obvious attempt to blunt criticism of the remarks went on the offensive. At an event in Indiana, he tried to turn the tables.

    “When I go around and I talk to people, there is frustration, and there is anger, and there is bitterness,” Obama began. “I want to make a point here. I was in San Francisco talking at a fundraiser, and somebody asked me “well, how are you going to get votes in Pennsylvania? I heard that it’s hard for some working class people to get behind your campaign. Why is that?” I said, well look, they’re frustrated and for good reason, because for the last 25 years they’ve seen jobs shipped overseas, they’ve seen their economies collapse. They have lost their jobs, they’ve lost their pensions. They’ve lost their health care.”

    Notice that Obama here does not really answer the question about why working class Pennsylvanians find it hard to get behind his campaign.

    Obama stated that politicians from both sides of the aisle have promised answers but that “nothing ever happens” as if that is why they are not interested in voting for him specifically. This is a very clever way to skirt a question he does not want to give an accurate answer for.

    “So…they don’t vote on economic because they don’t expect anybody’s going to help them,” Obama said, adding that instead they end up voting on issues that include “gun rights”, “gay marriage”, and “faith”.

    However, this is quite a departure from his original statement that people “get bitter” and that they ”cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    Notice too, that Obama has now introduced an “anti-gay” element into this conversation, making us wonder if he really believes middle-America is nothing but typical gun-toting, immigrant hating, bible-thumping, gay-bashing, NAFTA cursing white people that have been let down by our government.

    He then lashes out at Clinton and McCain.

    “Here’s what’s rich,” Obama said. “Sen. Clinton says, ‘Well I don’t think people are bitter in Pennsylvania. I think Barack’s being condescending.’ John McCain says, ‘Oh, how could he say that? How could he say people are bitter? He’s obviously out of touch with people. ”

    Hillary Clinton did not say that she thought Barack Obama was being condescending (although she surely thought it). She said that it wasn’t her experience that the people of Pennsylvania were bitter. For someone that is supposed to be the harbinger of hope, Obama sure is a downer.

    Obama railed next against the McCain camp.

    “Out of touch?” Obama said. “I mean, John McCain, it took him three tries to finally figure out that the home foreclosure crisis was a problem and to come up with a plan for it, and he’s saying I’m out of touch?”

    “Sen. Clinton voted for a credit card sponsored bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to get out of debt after taking money from the financial services companies, and she says I’m out of touch?”

    Ok, now I have to stop here and to correct the record. The reason that Clinton voted for this bill is that it actually capped the interest that credit card companies could charge to 30%. Granted, this is still too high, but a no vote (as Obama cast) just allowed these financial institutions to charge whatever exhorbitant interest rates they wanted with no limits. Obama was not willing to stick his neck out on this bill because it was not “perfect”. Sometimes change needs to be made incrementally when big business is involved…sad but true. Obama seems to have an “all or nothing” approach that will not net him the bi-partisan support he campaigns on.

    Obama ’s speech was true to one of the basic principals of his Saul Alinsky-based training in community organization, the principal of agitation. According to Alinsky, the agitator’s job is to make people realize that they are miserable, and that their misery is rooted in failures of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations.

    This method is used to great effect by Obama’s pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

    Obama concludes his speech with this:

    “No. I’m in touch. I know exactly what’s going on. I know what’s going on in Pennsylvania, I know what’s going on in Indiana, [and] I know what’s going on in Illinois. People are fed up.”

    It is becoming apparent that Obama and Pastor Wright may be more similar than they are different.

  457. lninla Says:
    April 12th, 2008 at 1:40 am
    I think the BO campaign’s tactic is to try and frame this as “bitter in PA” and get the press to repeat that only – and not the rest of the quote.

    Ya, we should make a point of calling it the ‘clling to religion’ or ‘cling to guns’ or something like that.

  458. Obamabots doing their obligatory, move along nothing to see here.

    I’m already hearing from lots of people how very offended they are about this.

    Basically the upshot is, the public thinks that Obama think because you dont have a job you turn to guns or religion, hate foreigners and trade agreements. Many i have heard from say this is condescending ignorant and offensive. Rural America, ladies and gentlemen are pissed.

    Amazing how you can just fuck it up in 10 seconds.

  459. Well this is how I see it ,the obama fans will praise him for standing up for people and telling the truth, phfff! The hill supporters will look at him as two faced which is true, but again how do we get the truth out to the public, the media will say that he is being honest to america and they are bitter because of rough times! He already is pulling that on people in his speeches or rallies! He will say “I bet you are all bitter about losing jobs right?” applaud, finished!

  460. winhillary, they can’t spin this. The comments are just offensive.

    Telling the truth would be — “I know many of you who have lost jobs due to outsourcing are bitter. You are angry — at the gov’t, at illegals who come and feel entitled to the jobs and the healthcare. But you can’t allow that anger to get to you. Rise up and fight back.” — That’s truth telling.

    Demeaning a culture is telling them that they cling to religion and guns and they’re xenophobic and leery of outsiders b/c they’re depressed about their economic situation — that’s an insult. Pure and simple.

  461. filbertsf,

    Great point, I didn’t really get a chance to see the whole speech that he gave in Fran, I hope this will get out and the media will face it!

  462. Ok I just watched a video of him talking about abortion, and wow! He is the george bush on the left side! How many times can you say uh? Sure if your caught, or lying. He said that abortion just isn’t fun and we should not have them and go to are clergy. Uh no shit there not fun! Please for entertainment reasons watch this on cnn, a 5 yr old could have done this press conf! Sorry for the typos, bad speller!

  463. Courting the vote of Catholics

    By BRIAN SCHEID
    Bucks County Courier Times

    On Friday afternoon, Barack Obama’s presidential campaign announced the formation of the National Catholic Advisory Council, an effort to draw support from a group of voters who could ultimately decide Pennsylvania’s primary and the presidential election in November.
    http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111-04122008-1517948.html
    *****************************************************
    Obama is just NOW, thinking about the Catholic vote. I don’t get that when he so often compared with JFK by himself and others. But it is only in Pennsylvania that he cares enough to think about reaching this important block of voters?

    WHY IS THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP BACKING THIS INEXPERIENCE ELITED LOSER?

    I have been saying for a very long time that Obama is TOAST. Once Team Obama decided to use Race Baiting as a political tactic against the Clintons after he LOST New Hampshire…he was over as a viable candidate to win the G.E.

    Never in my life have I seen the DNC, Democratic Leadership and MSM so out of touch with their own country. Obama’s campaign has been a campaign based on FICTION and LIES and COVER-UPS.

    And the longer he’s out campaigning for the nomination the more his TRUE face is revealed to us and it’s says…POSER, LOSER, SEXEST, FAKER, BIGOT, LIAR, SNOB!!!

    Obama only cares about Obama…for him to go to a fundraiser on BILLIONAIRE ROW in San Francisco and INSULT 90% of the country…is simply AMAZING to me. His campaign is DOA and they’re trying to RESUSCITATE this DEAD body before RIGOR MORTIS set in…but you can’t stop it…IT’S OVER.

  464. WHAT CAN WE DO TO STOP MSNBC! THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND! 6 VIDEOS ON BOSNIA NOT ONE ON OBAMAS FINANCING OR THE PENN REMARKS! SIX VIDEOS ON BOSNIA GUYS! THIS IS SICK! I WILL CALL AND COMPLAIN TODAY, PLEASE EVERYONE LETS GET TOGETHER AND PICKET AND MAKE NEWS! TELL ME WHAT TO DO AND I’LL BE THERE!

  465. Barack H. Obama,I am not a writer of books,Best I can do are mental notes and 90 yrs of stored up history that you have unleashed for me to get off of my mind.Composition and punctuation are insignificant to a real time story.
    I have followe the Clinton careers since their early days.I have watched hundreds of Senate sessions and votes and have seen the rise of an outstanding Woman with the warmth and understanding of the best path to take this country back to the envy of the world.She survived the onslaught of the GOP money and character destruction,once they realized that she could withstand anything they could devise.Elected twice to the senate from NY and demonstrated her skills at working with both sides to get things done.Then behold you came along Barack.You hung around her at every oppertunity and she mentored and read her position papers to you and you began to look more comfortable in your new job.I saw in you and Hillary a possible team for the future,that would benefit all of our people and regain the majority once again.BUT,you got greedy and decided it was time to start the long planned drive to create a new invisible cult and perhaps become the black JFK and march on the back of MLK to become the great Black and White Hope to make them free.Abe Lincoln,JFK,MLK,you are not.In fact we really don’t know who you really are.Your Chicago records have vanished.Your IL senate records no longer exist.Who are you Barack? We only know what you chose to tell in your book.You chose to do work for TONY REZKO and your record was very thin and lacking in details.You accepted tons of money from this despicable charater that makes AL CAPONE look like a two-bit pickpocket.You chose REZKO and his poverty stricken wife as your REAL ESTATE BROKER and bought a house that you andyour wife could ill afford in a stinky deal that you later described as a “Dumb THING”.BARACK I call it” MONEY LAUNDERING” flat out and criminal.You are a loose cannon with Hoof in mouth DISEASE.Not smart,not honest,not open,not patriotic,not interested in anything but your desire to be The president of this great country and perhaps down the road become called KING RAT,the movie character in the film story of A prisoner of war Camp holding British and US soldiers in the Phillipines.Your presence in this campaign is coming to an end Barack.Your mouth Runneth Over.You Speech in S.F. is the beginning of that slippery slope that consumes novice wanna-be politicians.BYE BYE OBAMA your cousin in KENYA Needs you.

  466. Good Morning and I mean GOOD MORNING!!!!!! 😀

    Reading posts at TM. hehehehe

    And FOX starting with the headline, “Obama sets off dynamite on himself.”

    👿

  467. Why can’t a 527 play his remarks about white folks, and typical white people, and clinging to their religion?

  468. Good Morning Hill Fans! here’s something fun 😀

    video: w w w . cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/11/politics/fromtheroad/entry4009509.shtml

    Hillary Clinton visited a senior citizens exercise class at the YMCA in West Philadelphia today, and the beat of the music was too much for her to resist.

    The dancers spun around the floor as Clinton bobbed up and down in place. The famous song by James Brown played in the background, “we’re gonna have a funky good time. We’re gonna take you hiiiiiigher” at which point Clinton waved her hands in the air.

  469. djia,

    Awwwwwww….. that is sooooooo cute! HRC can’t dance and she does it so well!

    And Nutter was bursting with pride. That guy has such a broad inclusive genuine smile!

    😀

  470. Obama quote of the day:

    “Barack Obama said anti-abortion Democrats are backing him because they feel he respects their opinion on the issue despite disagreement on it. ….”It may be that those who have opposed abortion get a sense that I’m listening to them and respect their position even though where we finally come down may be different,” he told reporters at a news conference.

    “The mistake that pro-choice forces have sometimes made in the past, and this is a generalization so it has not always been the case, has been to not acknowledge the wrenching moral issues involved in it,” he said.

    “Most Americans recognize that what we want to do is avoid, or help people avoid, having to make this difficult choice. That nobody is pro-abortion, abortion is never a good thing.”

  471. winhillary Says:

    April 12th, 2008 at 8:16 am
    WHAT CAN WE DO TO STOP MSNBC! THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND! 6 VIDEOS ON BOSNIA NOT ONE ON OBAMAS FINANCING OR THE PENN REMARKS! SIX VIDEOS ON BOSNIA GUYS! THIS IS SICK! I WILL CALL AND COMPLAIN TODAY, PLEASE EVERYONE LETS GET TOGETHER AND PICKET AND MAKE NEWS! TELL ME WHAT TO DO AND I’LL BE THERE!
    **************************************************
    winhillary, I know you might not believe me but the MSM focus on Bosnia actually helps Hillary…it’s the spin that had people confused and her reaction to the spin BUT the PICTURES and VIDEO translate differently to the electorate.

    It helps her in the Commander in Chief role you must assume as POTUS, It tells the electorate that Hillary went to a WAR ZONE and was at a FOWARD POSITION,that was so hot that the President wasn’t allowed to visit because his SECURITY would be placed in real danger. Hillary Clinton organize a trip to visit the troops and give Hope to Bosnia of the President’s commitment to their survival…because nothing is more symbolic to those in a conflict is to see the family of the most powerful person in the world STANDING and FIGHTING at YOUR SIDE.

    There’s a excitement for the soldiers to know you’re are appreciated for your sacrifice…ABM90 and others can attest to this…Hillary’s patriotism and service to our Country is exemplary

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  473. Carby,
    I was thinking the SAME thing. I also think BC knows that and it’s why he’s bringing it up. It sheds a good light on HRC.

    😀

  474. That CBS video shows Hillary out there working FOR us, going out to visit the wounded solders far from family, friends and home. It shows her helocopting into a forward position to visit the troops, entertaining the troops…

    Do you know how happy those solders were to see a little bit of home?

    The MSM doesn’t get it, to be wounded in battle away from home and family and in the middle of a WAR ZONE to see First Lady Hillary Clinton…that’s a powerful message and it speaks loudly of her character and patriotism at a time Bosnia War was major controversy in the Clinton Administration on both side of the Aisle.

  475. found this on TM today……and needs to be circulated!
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  476. Carby,

    I completely agree. She clearly had such a respect, an empathy and compassion for the soldiers.

    I wonder how SEIU feels right now, about BO’s comments dissing blue collar workers now they’ve pumped all this money and volunteers into his campaign.

    👿

  477. djia,

    JEEEEZZZZ! That idiot opposite Pat (Peter someone) spinning that BO was showing understanding for the blue collar workers!!!!!WTF?

    Pat shaking his head in disbelief.

    The other middle-aged white guy says BO shouldn’t back down.

    He must have kool-aid running through his veins! He is WORMING BIG TIME!!!!!! (What Obama Really Meant) 😈

  478. BAsil9

    peter (?) is an idiot spewing BS

    PA won’t see it that way……..i hope, well if commentators like Pat have anything to say about it they wont 😀

  479. Found it from an interview Nov 27, 2007: “One of the great pleasures of running for president has been, you know, to go to some tiny town in Iowa and you’ve got some guy in overalls and a seed hat say, ‘what do you think about the situation in Burma?’

    You know, and you think he is going to ask you about corn — and he asks you about Burma,” said Obama, provoking laughter from the New Hampshire audience.

    Weeping and LMAO!!!!!!! (from TM poster)

  480. @basil

    no i didnt catch it…..sorry

    but i did find this! 😀 me thinks this is a poster of things to come!!!

    h t t p : / /michellemalkin.com/2008/04/11/photoshop-of-the-week-typical-liberal-snob%20/

  481. Djia,
    Or SOBAMA like in S-O-B. Saw that at TM
    Everyone, here’s apertial transcript of Toobin Birger and Cadaverdy trying to DEFEND thier leader on the Situation Room (Also from TN)
    BLITZER: All right.

    Jeff, what do you think?

    TOOBIN: I think that is so ridiculous.

    CAFFERTY: I agree.

    TOOBIN: I mean that is not at all what Barack Obama said.

    BORGER: Right.

    TOOBIN: I mean I just think this is an example of how a campaign between the two of them can be purely destructive and not elevate either candidate. I mean Hillary Clinton is clearly distorting what Obama said.

    And, by the way, what Obama said is factually accurate.

    CAFFERTY: Right.

    TOOBIN: It’s been true throughout history that people who have economic problems lash out against various others. I just think it is embarrassing for the Clinton campaign just to hang on to this as if it’s some sort of gaffe by Obama.

    BLITZER: It’s not just the Clinton campaign, Jack. It’s also the McCain campaign.

    They issued a statement saying, “It’s a remarkable statement and extremely revealing. It shows an elitism and condescension toward hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking. It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

    (LAUGHTER)

    CAFFERTY: Oh, really?

    And this is from John McCain? Amazing.

    BORGER: Yes.

    BLITZER: No this is from Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser for John McCain.

    CAFFERTY: Look, Jeff’s right. They call it the rust belt for a reason. The great jobs and the economic prosperity left that part of the country two or three decades ago. The people are frustrated. The people have no economic opportunity.

    What happens to folks like that in the Middle East, you ask? Well, take a look. They go to places like al Qaeda training camps. I mean there’s nothing new here.

  482. basil9 Says:

    April 12th, 2008 at 10:11 am
    Carby,
    I was thinking the SAME thing. I also think BC knows that and it’s why he’s bringing it up. It sheds a good light on HRC.
    ****************************************************
    I don’t know what BC said about Bosnia but I do know that the photos and the original CBS video is very, very powerful. Not the Obama propaganda that was floated to support WEAK ASS Obama.

    Yes, the Clintons reacted to the demeaning spin to Hillary’s support of the troops and the Hope she gave to the Bosnian people by demeaning and dismissing her work as President Clinton’s most trusted advisor.

    And if anybody had a true Idea of how much work that is and how busy a visit like First Lady Hillary Clinton was…she was having meetings and visiting the troops to bring up moral, was helocopted up to the front to get answers to questions the President wanted to know. Also hosted the evening entertainment for the troups on a very small stage…It kind of reminded me of that old WWII musical “Four Jills in a Jeep” movie in the kind of actual USO entertainment.

  483. Greetings all….
    my thought for the day:

    George Bush was a president for the very rich weathly conservatives.

    with his comment in San Francisco, Barack Obama is showing that he is the candidate for the very rich wealthy liberals.

    Hillary Clinton is the candidate for real people.

    That’s why she is running for president and not just the Democratic nomination. That is why she will be the real uniter.

    Hillary Clinton Speaks for me.

  484. “with his comment in San Francisco, Barack Obama is showing that he is the candidate for the very rich wealthy liberals.”

    Ronald, I disagree with you, Barack Obama is the candidate for all the rich wealthy people. I don’t care if you’re liberal or conservative Obama is your man…and I’m glad he left his (true) heart in “Progressive” San Francisco.

    I live down in SoCAL, the TRUE POWER in California, where Obama LOST big time…remember obama only won 8 counties compared to Hillary’s 50!

  485. @carbynew-

    the funny thing to me is that I am white, well off, over educated, high paying professional, lived in SF for 7 years, live in Boston now, I drive a prius, I do yoga, I’m liberal, I drink lattes (well OK I actully like cappacino) so I fit the BO demographic PERFECTLY.

    Problem is I cant stand him. I find him totally fraudulent. Totally fake. I think is tone is condescending. His manner is arrogant (I’ve said that for over a year). I have listened to what he has to say and I find no resonance. There is no “there” there. Empty platitudes.

    So… am I the only latte drinking liberal who gets it? Or maybe Im the only liberal who drinks cappacino (all foam no milk).

  486. This is the most outrageous remark I have ever heard on television

    Cafferty…What happens to folks like that in the Middle East, you ask? Well, take a look. They go to places like al Qaeda training camps.

    Seriously, I can’t begin to fathom this.

    Is Cafferty implying that because Americans lost jobs and are angry with GWB they would do something as low as Al Qaeda?

    I don’t know about you guys but this one is way over the line, way over the top and way too insulting.

  487. Flock Duty and listening to Buchanon and this idiot Peter Fenn who has the friggin’ NERVE to say McCain has gotten a free ride for 3 weeks.

    Oh boo-hoo-hoo-hoo.

    :mrgreen:

  488. Ronald: I live in Northern CA, home of latte-sipping liberals, have a good education, make a good salary as a Registered Nurse, and I cannot stand the guy. I also, find him condescending, arrogant, and an empty suit. He does not have a genuine grasp of the issues, and I agree, he speaks in empty platitudes.

    I think, there are other latte drinking liberals “who get it,” but they are few in number, in my neck of the woods.

  489. @Ronald

    well I am white,well enough off, high paying professionals here too, lived in the Midwest all my life, i don’t do yoga but i ride horses 😀
    I consider myself to be a moderate liberal, I prefer mocha cappuccino’s 😀
    so i guess i would fit the demographic for BO too..but i also fit the Demographics for Hillary and JRE

    I have never been prejudice and do not choose who to vote for based on such things…I take my right to vote seriously and look at all things and make an educated vote. I just wish most Americans did too

    I get it!! and i like extra mocha and cream in my cappuccino 😀

  490. Ronald, how do you think I feel. I’m a middle class African American “valley girl” from California who is a moderate and worked over 20 years for a Health Insurance giant and is now disable and is fighting with some members of my family and friends who have drunk the Obama koolaid.

    Ugh, it’s terrible but at least I live in California so Obamamania is not that strong…unfortunately the Speaker of the House is in the TANK for him…very disappointed in Nancy Pelosi.

  491. debbie-
    I think the implication is very clear. If the people of Pennsylvania do not support Barack Obama then they are essentially just like middle easter terrorists joining Al Queda.

  492. Oh have I forgot to tell you, I’m a wine and tea drinker but I love me some Dodger dogs with a beer chaser.

    Used to play Golf and love driving up 101 to Santa Barbara to “chill”

  493. Well carbynew, djia, birdgal et al-

    I think I finally figured it out. Its not the kool-aid after all its the lattes! Must be something in the milk. Drink enough of it and your brain goes mush. I must be under the critical dose since I like my capaccino dry with mostly foam. Plus Im lactose intolerant.

    Now I know. Its the latte, not the kool aid.

    😛

  494. Ronald, I am a latte (and chai, and pinot grigio) sipping, gourmet cheese-eating, upper class income, Jane Austen and Henry James and Edith Wharton-reading, Liberal with a capitol “L”.

    I am also a very common-sense fiscally conservative, national security-minded woman with blue-collar roots.

    Obama has struck me as vain, vacuous, and utterly empty for quite some time now.

  495. b. Merryfield,

    LMAO! That poster of BO with his nose up in the air with the caption S.N.O.B. is priceless!

    😀

  496. just words, more words, more and more words, but still just words, his words:

    http://www.politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/obama-on-bitter-comments-i-didnt-say-it-as-well-as-i-should/#comment-875713

    Obama on ‘bitter’ remark: ‘I didn’t say it as well as I should have’
    Posted: 11:32 AM ET

    Obama spoke out again Saturday morning about the controversy over his recent comments.
    MUNCIE, Indiana (CNN) — Barack Obama told an audience Saturday that he didn’t word his recent comments at a fundraiser “as well as he should have” but added that the back and forth between Obama and fellow White House hopefuls Hillary Clinton and John McCain is “typical.”

    At a closed-press event in California Sunday Obama referred to some jobless Pennsylvanians as “bitter” who “cling to guns or religion.” Saturday, the Illinois senator sought to douse any further firestorm over the comments.

    “I didn’t say it as well as I should have,” Obama told an audience in Muncie, Indiana, the day after he first defended his comments, “because the truth is is that these traditions that are passed on from generation to generation-those are important.”

    The campaign added that the “traditions” Obama referred to are those of gun ownership and religion. Obama added that those traditions are “what sustains us.”

    He also labeled the dust up that’s developed as “a little typical sort of political flare up” because, as he contends, he said something that “everybody knows is true.”

    The Democratic candidate continued to maintain–as he had Friday night after the initial story began to circulate–that people are frustrated because Washington isn’t listening to the average American.

    “There are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my home town in Illinois who are bitter. They are angry.”

    “When you’re bitter, you turn to what you can count on,” Obama said, adding that they then turn to voting “about guns” and “taking comfort” in their faith and family.

    “That’s a natural response.”

    –CNN Political Producer Chris Welch

    From: CNN’s Chris Welch

  497. Ronald,

    Yup. I heard that interview earlier. Imagine what would have been done to HRC had she made such arrogant comments. In fact, flicking past cnn while cleaning bird cages and what segment is up next? BC and the Bosnia remarks.

    What a crock. And I don’t BLAME him for defending his wife! But no matter how BM spins this story it AIN’T going away.

    😈

  498. Pat

    Fenn saying BO showing empathy for people who are really in trouble. He’s not an elitist and Pat laughing and shaking his head and saying the story will be in the op-ed pieces and newspapers all next week.

    :mrgreen:

  499. Yep, Ronald I must be one of those backward, ignorant, xenophobic, racist, bitter ‘mericans who is likely to join Al Qaeda any day now. What other reason could there possibly be for not LURVING his Obama-ness?

  500. B. Merryfield

    AMAZING picture! I emailed it to everyone I know. Send it to Drudge Report. I bet he’ll eat it up!

  501. Timmy boy and his Obama panel trying to act like they’re neutral when we KNOW they are not.

    I wish they would have a true blue Clinton spokeperson but then that will help MSNBC.

    Obama is DOA and know we are seeing the relatives cry over the corpse in DENIAL while RIGOR MORTIS set in.

    Bill Richardson must be a “COOLER.”

  502. Ronald,

    Didya check the rest of caption? ROTF!

    SNOB
    It’s an Elitist Thiing
    You Wouldn’t Understand

    everyone, it’s on B. Merryfield’s Rezkowatch.

  503. Maybe I should call BO’s campaign and have dem ‘splain it to me real slow so I can understandably comprehend dat.

    Right before I put down my bitter black coffee pic up my gun and shoot them between the eyes.

  504. Release4/12/2008
    Hillary Clinton Responds to Senator Obama’s Recent Characterizations of Pennsylvanians
    Hillary Clinton delivered the following remarks at a campaign event in Indianapolis, Indiana:

    For video, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeV2KzGGC38

    “I grew up in the Midwest. Born in Chicago, raised outside of that great city. I was raised with Midwestern values and an unshakeable faith in America and its promise.

    “Now, like some of you may have been, I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Senator Obama made about people in small town America. Senator Obama’s remarks are elitist and they are out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans. Certainly not the Americans that I know – not the Americans I grew up with, not the Americans I lived with in Arkansas or represent in New York.

    “You know, Americans who believe in the Second Amendment believe it’s a matter of Constitutional rights. Americans who believe in God believe it is a matter of personal faith. Americans who believe in protecting good American jobs believe it is a matter of the American Dream.

    “When my dad grew up it was in a working class family in Scranton. I grew up in a church-going family, a family that believed in the importance of living out and expressing our faith.

    “The people of faith I know don’t “cling to” religion because they’re bitter. People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich. Our faith is the faith of our parents and our grandparents. It is a fundamental expression of who we are and what we believe.

    “I also disagree with Senator Obama’s assertion that people in this country “cling to guns” and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt – and they enjoy doing so because it’s an important part of their life, not because they are bitter.

    “And as I’ve traveled across Indiana and I¹ve talked to a lot of people, what I hear are real concerns about unfair trade practices that cost people jobs.

    “I think hardworking Americans are right to want to see changes in our trade laws. That’s what I have said. That¹s what I have fought for.

    “I would also point out that the vast majority of working Americans reject anti-immigration rhetoric. They want reform so that we remain a nation of immigrants, but also a nation of laws that we enforce and we enforce fairly.

    “Americans are fair-minded and good-hearted people. We have ups and downs. We face challenges and problems. But our views are rooted in real values, and they should be respected.

    “Americans out across our country have borne the brunt of the Bush administration¹s assault on the middle class. Contrary to what Senator Obama says, most Americans did much better during the Clinton years than they have done during the Bush years.

    “If we are striving to bring people together – and I believe we should be – I don’t think it helps to divide our country into one America that is enlightened and one that is not.

    “We know there is an unacceptable economic divide in America today, but that is certainly not the way to bridge it. The way to do that is to roll up our sleeves and get to work and make sure we provide, once again, economic opportunity and shared prosperity for all Americans.

    “People don’t need a president who looks down on them; they need a president who stands up for them. And that is exactly what I will do as your president.

    “Because I believe if you want to be the president of all Americans, you need to respect all Americans. And that starts with respecting our hard working Americans, and what we need to do here is to take a lesson from Allison transmission.”

  505. “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” – John 8:32

    Obama is the gift that keeps on giving, from Bittergate, Snobama, YOU NAME IT everytime Obama goes off script the the gifts start flowing. From SF Billionaires row fundraiser.

    We get nod, nod, wick, wick to Nafta, Christians are “Cling to religion” instead of seeking a relationship with God. See words matter and when you are not speaking the truth your words with trip you up sooner or later…I’m glad it’s becoming sooner.

    Btw, Obama is like the TITANTIC sinking and I’m just watching how many will jump off that disaster or how many will go under with him?

  506. Update from NoQuarter site

    The Attack on NoQuarter »
    By Larry Johnson on April 12, 2008 at 1:32 AM in Current Affairs | 75 Comments
    Yesterday, for no apparent reason, our host pulled the NoQuarter website. Everyone who tried to visit this blog was informed, “ACCOUNT SUSPENDED.” Call it coincidence, but this event followed what had been a particularly effective week of posts regarding Barack Obama’s shortcomings and Randi Rhode’s tirade against Hillary and Geraldine Ferraro. What is really strange is that our actual traffic had not increased dramatically. Our host refused to respond to our service ticket inquiries.
    As a result we moved to a new host and server. It was supposed to take 48 hours, but Susan UNPC, working with our new host, accomplished the move in less than 18 hours. Thanks for your patience. We regret the inconvenience. Special thanks to Taylor Marsh, Chris, Claude, Jim, Moses and others (its late and I don’t have the list handy) who jumped in with encouragement, suggestions, and alternatives. I’m sure I’ve left others deserving of praise off the list. My apologies. It is not intentional. Now, back to blogging.

  507. Damn, Hillary is more influential than I ever thought. Reading through the comments at the WaPo it seems she is to blame for Obama’s comments. Since she can make Obama say things I really wish she would have him utter the words “I am abandoning my White House bid.”

  508. Small Town Gate Continues

    This is how fast a controversy moves these days. Yesterday afternoon the Huffington Post reported Obama’s comments about small town America from a fundraiser in San Francisco last Sunday:

    And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
    Hillary Clinton jumped on the remarks faster than you can shake a stick:

    time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/04/small_town_gate_continues.html

  509. I have sharpende my definition of Barack and who he really is to reflect some of the insights of yesterday, in case Hillary supporters are interested.

    Obama pretends to be the candidate of change but he is in fact the quintessential “organizational man”. This is obvious in his voting pattern, his campaign behavior and his condescension toward average Americans. It can be seen in his legislative retreat on nuclear safety and subsequent acceptance of campaign contributions from the company in question i.e. Excelon. It can also be seen in his campaign decision to replace hundreds of grass roots delegates with bundlers and their girlfriends in California with the people he really represents, i.e. bundlers and their girlfriends at the Democratic National Convention. And it can be seen in the mean spirited comments he made about working people in rural Pennsylvania which reveal his elitism.

    He represents the left wing of the Democratic Party which has arisen in response to the 2000 election and Iraq War. He has been chosen the leaders of that faction to be its candidate for President. He is backed by the Kennedy cabal of liberal elites, the Dean cartel of netroods and the Brazille black power consortium. His core supporters are blacks (radicalized or intimidated by him), college kids and latté liberals. They prefer ideological crusades to policy solutions, confrontation to compromise. Meanwhile the old radical left including Jane Fonda, Joan Baez, Tom Hayden, Weatherman Ayers, and the Black Panthers are lining up behind Barack and Michelle.

    To many Americans, this evokes dark memories of old unhappy far off things and battles long ago . . . .

  510. Guys….I think the story is the fact pattern and how it all fits together….

    The pieces are all fitting together – the 20-year association with America-hating Rev. Wright; the longtime association with Bill Ayers, former head of a domestic terrorist group (The Weather Underground); his wife’s reference to America as a “mean” country – to give us a clear sense of how out of touch Obama is with mainstream America.

  511. We have to keep this story and the pressure about it alive. Let’s deluge the PA papers with letters. Hillaryresponders has a listing of the PA papers with links. If they see a sea of letters, they will know how interested people are in this and will keep writing about it.

  512. Well i cant remember such a storm but Indiana is pissed off majorly.

    INDIANAPOLIS – (WANE) – The Indiana Republican Party is calling on Indiana Democrats in Congress to denounce Barack Obama’s criticism of Midwestern values at a San Francisco fundraiser last Sunday.

    Indiana Republican Party spokesman Jay Kenworthy issued the following statement on Barack Obama’s comments posted below.

    “Indiana is full of decent people who support gun rights because they believe in the Constitution and place a premium on religion because they are people of faith — not because we are bitter as Obama stated. Perhaps this is something Barack Obama doesn’t understand, but surely our Congressional delegation does.

    “I can’t imagine Hoosiers supporting a candidate who thinks so little of them.”

    Former Speaker John Gregg issued the following statement in response to recent comments made by Senator Obama:

    “I am offended to hear of Senator Obama’s recent comments at a fundraiser in San Francisco. If this is the description of small towns in the Midwest that Senator Obama is telling people in San Francisco, he clearly hasn’t spent enough time in Indiana. Those of us who live in small towns across Indiana are hardworking Americans who love and fight for our country, and live where we do because we believe it’s the best place to raise our kids and call home. Senator Obama should focus his campaign on offering plans to help struggling Hoosiers create a better life and not mock them for their small town values and religious beliefs.”

    Obama’s remarks as recorded by a Huffington Post writer in attendance at a recent California fundraising dinner:

    Looks like the midwest and PA are not taking this lying down, Obama is in a shitstorm of trouble.

  513. Well, it looks like Howard Dean isnt the only one who couldnt run a whore house in a gold rush. Let me try it one more time and see if I can get it right

    Obama pretends to be the candidate of change but he is in fact the quintessential “organizational man”. This is obvious in his voting pattern, his campaign behavior and his condescension toward average Americans. It can be seen in his legislative retreat on nuclear safety and subsequent acceptance of campaign contributions from the company in question i.e. Excelon. It can also be seen in his campaign decision to replace hundreds of grass roots delegates in California with the people he really represents, i.e. bundlers and their girlfriends at the Democratic National Convention. And it can be seen in the mean spirited comments he made about working people in rural Pennsylvania which reveal his elitism. That is the reality behind the illusion.

    He represents the left wing of the Democratic Party which has arisen in response to the 2000 election and Iraq War. He has been chosen the leaders of that faction to be its candidate for President. He is backed by the Kennedy cabal of liberal elites, the Dean cartel of netroods and the Brazille black power consortium. His core supporters are blacks (radicalized or intimidated by him), college kids and latté liberals. They prefer ideological crusades to policy solutions, confrontation to compromise. Meanwhile the old radical left including Jane Fonda, Joan Baez, Tom Hayden, Weatherman Ayers, and the Black Panthers are lining up behind Barack and Michelle: To many Americans, this evokes dark memories of old unhappy far off things and battles long ago . . . .

  514. I think Obama has effectively lost the PA and Indiana primaries judging by the midwest reactions to all this hooha and Hillary did’nt even have to open her mouth.

  515. It is not so much the bitter or the guns remark that we need to keep alive it is the “cling to religion” remark that needs to get the most play.

  516. rjk1957,
    ‘Cling to religion’ is better than ‘bitter’, but the whole thing is worth quoting whenever possible. Equating guns and religion and antipathy to immigrants etc etc is more indicative than any single factr.

  517. The best bit last night from media was this.

    Every democrat strategist on CNN last night rated this a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad this comment was. One even said it was an 11.

    They all said this could be what the superdelegates need to clear the vote for Hillary.

  518. carbynew Says:
    April 12th, 2008 at 11:26 am
    Ugh, it’s terrible but at least I live in California so Obamamania is not that strong…unfortunately the Speaker of the House is in the TANK for him…very disappointed in Nancy Pelosi.

    Someone who knows Pelosi’s congressional district, should put up flyers: “HELP WANTED. Wanted young handsome Black man to run for Pelosi’s seat in Congress. Campaign speeches will be supplied, emphasizing that Pelosi has been too long in Washington, it’s time for some Change and Hope. She’s too old. Pelosi is part of the Past, the Old. Etc etc etc.”