La Borinquena Hillary Clinton

It will be a glorious day in August when we walk with Hillary Clinton into the Democratic convention. We will walk into the Democratic convention with the full, (no backroom deals) elected Florida and Michigan delegations, and air out the smell of incense from the hall.

What a glorious day that will be. Today is a glorious day too.

After spending millions of dollars, demanding Hillary Clinton be thugged out of the race, trumpeted temporary endorsements, sad tours to bamboozle voters while pretending to dislike designer beers and arugula – Obama is still behind in reliable Pennsylvania polls. The most reliable poll this election season (SurveyUSA) today has Hillary ahead of Obama 56% to 38%.

Ordinarily, after voting season begins, we pay attention to polls the week before the election to gauge the latest state of play. Election day voting is what counts of course. But this SurveyUSA poll with Hillary Clinton in the dominant position in Pennsylvania, without much movement from their previous poll, is a delicious joy because it illustrates why Obama fears Hillary Clinton so much and why Obama incense burners are trying to thug Hillary Clinton out of the election.

Poor Obama. Wait until Hillary Clinton debates him on April 16. His bowling score will be Obama’s Pennsylvania highlight when Hillary gets through with him.

Oh well, let them try to thug Hillary Clinton out. It’s the Chicago way. Ken Starr, Newt, the whole Republican Party, the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they all tried to thug Hillary Clinton out. A bunch of PINOs and libertarian left blogs such as DailyKooks, Obama shills like Josh Marshall at the Obama Talking Points, Arriana Huff n’ Puff, Hate Hillary Cheerleaders Olbermann and Matthews with pom poms Russert and the entire NBC network will be as successful as Newt and the boys.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is not only campaigning in Montana, Indiana, North Carolina, the Dakotas, Oregon, Kentucky and West Virginia, but Puerto Rico too. We love seeing Bill in Puerto Rico campaiging for Hillary.

Let Obama Chicago thugs try to thug Hillary out of the elections in the next 10 primaries. Let Dean and Brazile try to thug Hillary out of the race so they can then and only then, reverse themselves and enfranchise the crucial, must win voters of Florida and Michigan. Let them all play their games. We’ll show them all what we are made of in Denver. For now, we’ll watch Bill in Puerto Rico:

Bill Clinton was in Puerto Rico for a two day visit. Here is a good site for Puerto Rico political news (LINK).

While in Puerto Rico Bill visited the San Juan Unveiling of an FDR statue, visited the Barceloneta Industrial Zone; attended the Dedication of a pediatric wing in Hermanos Meléndez Hospital; attended a community forum in Salinas; and went to a rally in Ponce plaza.

Bill Clinton made the case for Hillary Clinton, La Borinquena, in Puerto Rico and let Puerto Rico know Hillary will fight for their right to be heard along with all the states yet to be heard from:

Bill Clinton took his wife’s presidential campaign to Puerto Rico on Sunday night, telling islanders that Sen. Hillary Clinton is the best candidate to fix a struggling economy. The former president arrived for a two-day visit ahead of the U.S. Caribbean territory’s June 1 Democratic primary, which could give Puerto Rico a rare opportunity to have a say in national politics.

The irony in all this is that Puerto Rico, which is not a state in the United States, will have a large voice in the Democratic nominating process while Dean/Brazile disenfranchise the states of Florida and Michigan.

[For those that want a giggle: while President Bill Clinton was in Puerto Rico for Hillary the Barack Obama circus sent in – Patrick Kennedy! Patrick Kennedy, ha, who cannot win his own Rhode Island for Obama, is sent to win the Island of Puerto Rico. Those great results in California when Ted and Maria and Carolina were supposed to win over the Latino vote must have been forgotten by Obama’s Chicago thugs.]

As we have written before, Puerto Rico, Indiana, North Carolina, Oregon, West Virginia, the Dakotas, Montana, Nebraska and Kentucky are concerns for the future. Right now the concern, the object of our attention is Pennsylvania.

Join sisters Theresa Gropelli and Kathy Benn.

Contribute financially to the Pennsylvania Victory or ask friends to contibute.

Make calls to Pennsylvania.

Let’s open the windows and get rid of the incense stink.

Let’s win Pennsylvania!


304 thoughts on “La Borinquena Hillary Clinton

  1. For those following the latest lies against Hillary:

    The aunt of a young pregnant woman who died after a hospital told her she needed to pay $100 up front for care said in an interview on Monday that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has been telling the story accurately on the campaign trail — following claims by a different Ohio hospital that it did not turn the patient away.

    For weeks, Clinton repeated an anecdote she heard in Ohio on Feb. 28 involving a young woman who lost her baby and later died because she lacked health insurance and did not have $100 to gain access to a nearby hospital.

    But over the weekend, Clinton came under fire when officials at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital, after reading about her remarks, demanded that she stop recounting it because the patient, Trina Bechtel, was admitted there and did have insurance.

    That part, it turns out, is true. But so is Clinton’s claim that Bechtel did not get care at another hospital that wanted a $100 pre-payment before seeing her, according to the young woman’s aunt, Lisa Casto. “It’s a true story,” said Casto, 53.

  2. Admin: good news on the survey usa poll. Close to the 20% number bambi was floating a few days ago. Not falling for the pied piper bullshit inspite of what the media whores are telling them to think. Gotta widen our lead.

    You saw the email I sent you yesterday?

  3. Oprah’s favorable ratings take a HUGE DIVE!…….BuMMer!

    where they all began:

    “Oprah’s favorability ratings also remained consistently — and unusually — high. In November 2003, Gallup found that 73 percent of Americans held favorable views about Oprah. Seventy-four percent of Americans reported favorable impressions of Oprah in a January 2007 Gallup/USA Today poll.”

    now today Oprah’s ratings are at a all time LOW!!

    “The results of a March 26, 2008, AOL Television popularity poll of television hosts reveal Americans may now embrace Ellen DeGeneres over Oprah by a wide margin. Forty-six percent of the 1.35 million people who participated in the poll said the daytime talk show host that “made their day” was Ellen, compared with only 19 percent who chose Oprah. Nearly half (47 percent) said they would rather dine with Ellen, compared with 14 percent who preferred Oprah.

  4. That interview on Morning Joe was excellent! Nice to see Hillary treated with respect and dignity; not “gotchas.”

  5. fox news has the “monkey” story posted now too! I sure hope obama camp takes some real heat on this RACE CARD issue!

    h t t p : / /

  6. This WaPo story is a good place to comment. No reg, went right up, civil discussion.

    I received an email heads-up on it from h t t p : / / I had to sign up with the responders, they send much more info out in email than is on their website. It’s great, they send a link right to the page you need for commenting.

    h t t p : / /

    The aunt of a young pregnant woman who died after a hospital told her she needed to pay $100 up front for care

    More detail on the story is linked from; has looked into it.

  7. Transcript of Hillary Clinton from the Iraq Hearings today

    SEN. HILLARY CLINTON, D-N.Y.: Thank you, General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker, for your long and distinguished service to our nation.

    Before I ask you any questions, I just want to respond to some of the statements and suggestions that have been made leading up to this hearing and even during it, that it is irresponsible or demonstrates a lack of leadership to advocate withdrawing troops from Iraq in a responsible and carefully planned withdrawal.

    I fundamentally disagree.

    Rather, I think it could be fair to say that it might well be irresponsible to continue the policy that has not produced the results that have been promised time and time again at such tremendous cost to our national security and to the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States military.Our troops are the best in the world, and they have performed admirably and heroically in Iraq.

    However, the purpose of the surge, let’s not forget, as described by the Bush administration, was to create the space for the Iraqis to engage in reconciliation and make significant political progress.

    However, since General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker last testified in September, even General Petraeus as recently as three and a half weeks ago has acknowledged that the Iraqi government has not made sufficient political progress.

    And our current strategy in Iraq has very real costs.

    We rarely talk about the opportunity costs — the opportunities lost because of the continuation of this strategy. The longer we stay in Iraq, the more we divert resources not only from Afghanistan, but other international challenges, as well.

    In fact, Admiral Mullen last week said that the military would have already assigned forces to missions elsewhere in the world were it not for what he called “the pressure that’s on our forces right now.” And he admitted that force levels in Iraq right now do not allow us to have the force levels we need in Afghanistan.

    The vice chief of staff of the Army, General Cody, testified last week that “the current demand for forces in Iraq and Afghanistan limits our ability to provide ready forces for other contingencies.”

    And, finally, the cost to our men and women in uniform is growing. Last week, the New York Times noted the stress on the mental health on our returning soldiers and Marines from multiple and extended deployments.

    Among combat troops sent to Iraq for the third or fourth time, more than one in four show signs of anxiety, depression or acute stress, according to an official Army survey of soldiers’ mental health.

    The administration and supporters of the administration’s policy often talk about the cost of leaving Iraq, yet ignore the greater cost of continuing the same failed policy.
    You know, the lack of political progress over the last six months and the recent conflict in Basra reflect how tenuous the situation in Iraq really is. And for the past five years, we have continually heard from the administration that things are getting better, that we’re about to turn a corner, that there is, finally, a resolution in sight. Yet each time, Iraqi leaders fail to deliver.

    I think it’s time to begin an orderly process of withdrawing our troops, start rebuilding our military and focusing on the challenges posed by Afghanistan, the global terrorist groups and other problems that confront America.

    I understand the very difficult dilemma that any policy with respect to Iraq poses to decision-makers. If this were easy or if there were a very clear way forward, we could all perhaps agree on the facts about how to build toward a resolution that is in the best interests of the United States, that would stabilize Iraq and would meet our other challenges around the world.

    With respect to our long-term challenges, Ambassador Crocker, the administration has announced that it will negotiate an agreement with the government of Iraq by the end of July that would provide the legal authorities for U.S. troops to continue to conduct operations in Iraq.

    Let me ask you: Do you anticipate that the Iraqi government would submit such an agreement to the Iraqi parliament for ratification?

    AMB. RYAN CROCKER: The Iraqi government has indicated it will bring the agreement to the Council of Representatives. At this point, it is not clear, at least to me, whether that will be for a formal vote or whether they will repeat the process they used in November with the declaration of principles, in which it was simply read to the members of the parliament.

    CLINTON: Does the administration plan to submit this agreement to our Congress?

    CROCKER: At this point, Senator, we do not anticipate that the agreements will have within them any elements that would require the advise-and-consent procedure. We intend to negotiate this as an executive agreement.

    CLINTON: Well, Ambassador Crocker, it seems odd, I think, to Americans who are being asked to commit for an indefinite period of time the lives of our young men and women in uniform, the civilian employees, whom you rightly referenced and thanked, as well as billions of dollars of additional taxpayer dollars, if the Iraqi parliament may have a chance to consider this agreement, that the United States Congress would not.

    And as you may know, I currently have legislation requiring the Congress to have an opportunity to consider such an agreement before it is signed. And I would urge you to submit such an agreement to the Congress for full consideration.

    General Petraeus, you know, I know that in this March 14th interview with The Washington Post you stated that “no one,” and those are your words, “no one in the United States and Iraqi governments feels there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation or in the provision of basic public services.”

    CLINTON: Those are exactly the concerns that my colleagues and I raised when with you testified before us in September.

    I remember well, you know, you were being asked that how long would we continue to commit American lives and treasure if the Iraqis fail to make political gains.
    And in response, you said that if we reached that point in a year, you’d have to think very hard about it and it would be difficult to recommend the continuation of this strategy, and there clearly are limits to the blood and treasure we can expend in an effort.

    Well, we’re halfway through the year. And as many of us predicted, and as you yourself stated, we still do not see sufficient progress.

    What conditions would have to exist for you to recommend to the president that the current strategy is not working? And it seems apparent that you have a conditions-based analysis, as you set forth in your testimony, but the conditions are unclear, they certainly lack specificity, and the decision points, with respect to these conditions, are also vague.
    So how are we to judge, General Petraeus, what the conditions are or should be and the actions that you and the administration would recommend pursuing based on them?

    GEN. DAVID PETRAEUS: First of all, Senator, if I could just comment on the — that Washington Post article, what I said was that no one was satisfied with the progress that had been made, either Iraqi or American, but I then went on and actually ticked off a number of the different areas in which there had been progress and talked about the different laws that Ambassador Crocker has rightly identified in a number of other areas in which, in fact, there’s been progress, although not satisfactory progress, as I mentioned, in the eyes of either Iraqis or Americans.

    And so, that was the thrust of what I was getting at there, because there has, indeed, been progress in the political arena and there actually has been progress in a variety of the other arenas, as Ambassador Crocker laid out in his opening statement.

    With respect to the conditions, Senator, what we have is a number of factors that we will consider by area as we look at where we can make recommendations for further reductions beyond the reduction of the surge forces that will be complete in July.

    These factors are fairly clear. There’s obviously an enemy situation factor, there’s a friendly situation factor with respect to Iraqi forces, local governance, even economic and political dynamics, all of which are considered as the factors in making recommendations on further reductions.

    PETRAEUS: Having said that, I have to say that again it’s not a mathematical exercise. There’s not an equation in which you have co- efficients in front of each of these factors. It’s not as mechanical as that. At the end of the day, it really involves commanders sitting down, also with their Iraqi counterparts and leaders in a particular area, and assessing where it is that you can reduce your forces so you can, again, make a recommendation to make further reductions.

    And that’s the process, again.

    There is this issue in a sense this term of battlefield geometry. As I mentioned, together with Ambassador Crocker and Iraqi political leaders, there’s even sort of a political military calculus that you have to consider, again, in establishing where the conditions are met to make further reductions.

    CLINTON: If I could just — one following question, Mr. Chairman?

    In response to a question by Senator Levin regarding when you knew of Prime Minister Maliki’s plans to go into Basra, you said, and I was struck by it, so I wrote it down, that you learned of it in a meeting where you were planning — where the meeting’s purpose was planning to resource operations in Basra on a longer term basis.

    And clearly, until relatively recently, southern Iraq has not been within our battlefield geometry. Southern Iraq was originally the responsibility of the British. They have clearly pulled back and we’re not, so far as I can glean from the press reports, very actively involved in the most recent operations.

    But what did you mean by the resources you were planning to deploy and over what length of time?

    PETRAEUS: Senator, what we had been working on with the Iraqi national security adviser, ministers of defense and interior, was a plan that was being developed by the commander of the Basra Operational Command, General Mohan, which was a fairly deliberate process of laying out, of adding to the resources there on the military side and in other areas. And then there was a phased plan over the course of a number of months during which different actions were going to be pursued.

    Prime Minister Maliki assessed that that plan was taking too long, determined that the threats that had emerged since provincial Iraqi control, in terms of the criminal elements, again connected to the militia, and so forth, were such that more immediate action was taken.

    And, again, as a sovereign country’s leader, commander in chief of his armed forces, he decided to direct the much more rapid deployment of forces from other locations to Basra.

    And that is, in fact, what he did, very much moving up the timetable and compressing the different activities that, in fact, we had been planning to resource over time.

    CLINTON: Thank you.

  8. After spending millions of dollars, demanding Hillary Clinton be thugged out of the race, trumpeted temporary endorsements, sad tours to bamboozle voters while pretending to dislike designer beers and arugula – Obama is still behind ….

    Hey, I like arugula too. Should I switch to Obama? I also love radicchio and endives…and designer beers.

    Okay, I also drink Bud in cans, so you can’t kick me outta here so fast.

  9. djia Says:

    April 8th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    fox news has the “monkey” story posted now too! I sure hope obama camp takes some real heat on this RACE CARD issue!

    I’m not trying to sound like a contrarian, but I don’t think the Obama camp has any choice in the matter. The race card is being pulled by the accuser and the town. This is a tight race and little, insignificant things get blown out of proportion.

    A smart campaignn would try to nip any potential controversy in the bud. That’s what the BO camp is doing. It’s a cowardice way out, but necessity often dictates and reason takes back seat.

    The accuser is a real loser.

  10. @filbertsf

    I somewhat agree with what you wrote, but the fact that the obama campaign insisted that this woman step down from being a delegate is supporting the race card

    they should of come out with a statement that they didn’t feel she was being racist at all and accepted her as a delegate.

    but by doing what they did they in fact are supporting this woman calling the other woman racist. and IMHO is the race card being played

  11. mj Says:

    April 8th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
    I don’t dislike Oprah. Everyone has the right to support whom they want.

    Am I alone in admitting that I’ve never watched a full episode of Oprah or the View (two much talked about talk shows?)

    Oprah, I’ve seen bits here and there and a segment or two. With the View, have never seen it. Read about some of the controversial statements and such, but never tuned in.

  12. Hasn’t there allegedly, behind the scenes, been some sort of cooling off between Oprah and Obama? I mean, officially she still is in his corner, but wasn’t she toning down her overt support? And is it just to retain her viewership, or are there “issues” between O-her and O-him?

    I know, this is sort of an Us magazine topic…sorry if it comes off as trite. But Oprah was mentioned, I didn’t start down this path. :^)

  13. djia, I’ve said many times that I think BO is the race-baiter in the Machiavellian sense.

    I see your point about how the BO camp should have sided with the delegate over the race-baiting accuser. But I don’t expect much from the BO camp. They choose expediency over principle.

    Remember when “General Betray-us” flack? Hillary stood up for free speech; BO conveniently skips the vote.

    Hillary did something that could have been a liability, but she stood for principle. You won’t get that with Obama.

  14. let me get this straight the hospitals deny the story about the pregnant lady??

    How shocking!! Couldn’t be they are trying to avoid a mal-practice suit ya think?

  15. rgb44hrc

    The cooling off may have to do with Wright. When Oprah left the church several years ago he gave some hate filled ranting sermons against Oprah. Obama gives a speech saying he will not denounce and disown Wright may have caused a rift between him and Oprah.

  16. I still say the whole monkey business thing was/is stupid. He never should have had the woman step down. He would still have the black vote and frankly it was not that big a deal.

  17. We need to play this up with Veteran’s groups in PA. Obama supporter rockefeller made big blunder.

    Rockefeller Apologizes to McCain for Calling Him Hit-and-Run Aviator

  18. I agree with rgb44hrc about Oprah. It’s definitely b/c her female audience were in an uproar.

    Oprah is a businessman first and and she saw her stock falling. Remember that she sort of “disappeared” way, way before the Wright controversy surfaced.

  19. That monkey story is ridiculous. I call my nephews monkeys all the time. Gee, this is getting pathetic.

  20. mj Says:

    April 8th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
    I don’t dislike Oprah. Everyone has the right to support whom they want.
    hi mj: I think the problem is the fact that she uses her immense leverage in media, celebrity status to bamboozle voters. Its like the old Soviet Union where the saying was everyone is equal but some are more equal than others. If we ever get to the point in this country where we have public financing of elections than you will begin to see the stirrings of true reprensntative govenment.

    I was having lunch with a friend of mine yesterday. His hobby was racing and he didnt care much what it was he likes living on the edge. He raced cobras with Carol Shelby, magnmum boats with a guy whose name escapes me but built them for the white powder crowd in Miami and met his demise when he started making them for the DEA at the personal request of Bush Sr.

    Based on these experiences he posits that in a competitive race big money wins because it can buy the best techology and talent, and for that reason he now favors sports which hold everyone to the same standard so money is no longer the determining factor.

    In the current race however things are different because we are fighting for the minds of the electorate and despite all the technological advances in the world hte best messenger in the world is still the candidate herself. Roger Ailes (booo) once wrote a book on it entitled “You Are The Message” and in Hillarys case that is the advantage we have going forward, and with our continued support it is all the advantage we need.

  21. mj, she also campaigned with the Kennedys in CA pre-Feb.5th.

    But I don’t think she’s been quite as visible as she was when announced those mega-stadium appearances in NH, SC, and IA. She was up, front and center.

    I’m not saying she’s not out pimping BO, but it’s definitely more low-key.

  22. Email from Hillary today (below), FYI. Please ask your friends and family to donate whatever they can, to help out in PA — let’s keep it up!

    Dear Democrats,

    With 14 days to go until the people of Pennsylvania vote, the Obama campaign has decided to go all-out. They’re trying to end the race for the White House with an unyielding media blitz. Right now, we’re being outspent 4-1 on Pennsylvania television.

    So now, here’s what we have to ask ourselves: Have we come this far in our history-making contest for the Democratic nomination only to see the race decided not by the quality of our ideas but by the size of our opponent’s media budget?

    Not a chance — not if you and I have anything to say about it. And, believe me, we do. Your contribution of $50 has made a big difference in helping carry us this far and now I need your help again. If you contribute $75 now, we can make sure we get our message out to win in Pennsylvania and beyond.

    Don’t let a sea of Obama ads overwhelm our powerful message in Pennsylvania. Contribute now.

    Everywhere I campaign in Pennsylvania, I meet people who are bearing the brunt of George Bush’s failures on the war, the economy, health care, and other critical issues.

    They’re eager to hear our powerful call for change. But, we need more ads on the air to make sure our message gets through to people.

    With just 14 days to go, please step up and help us close the Obama campaign’s 4-1 advantage. Contribute now.

    Everything is on the line in Pennsylvania and the states to follow. And we still have the only advantage any campaign should hope for — the ability to determine our fate by how hard we work and how determined we are to pull through to victory.

    This is one of the closest, most spirited contests for the Democratic nomination we’ve ever seen. And I have to tell you: I wouldn’t want to be going through this remarkable experience with anyone other than you.

    With a little less than two weeks to go, let’s give it everything we’ve got.



  23. wbboei, my only problem is I don’t want my tax money going to candidates I dislike. It’s like the gov’t taking our tax money and pouring it into Iraq. We don’t have a say in it.

    At the time, I disliked John Edwards, but b/c he was accepting public financing, my tax money was going to him.

  24. Rockefeller Apologizes to McCain for Calling Him Hit-and-Run Aviator

    OMG Rockefeller is even dumber than he looks. He has decided to compete with General McPeak for the idiot of the month of campaign award. If I were judging that event I would really be torn. Damned near anything Bambi surrogates say about McCain will be returned in spades.

  25. Like or dislike Mccain, no one can say he is not a war hero. Critcizing his service is a huge mistake, as much as the Obama camp would like to down play patriotism, it is the 1 most important thing to a vast majority of the electorate.

  26. This blog was taken from I find it funny that Obama supporters only ever see party-shattering divisiveness from Clinton & Co. They will never admit (or don’t want to see) that Obama and his surrogates (including his MSM toads) are using a mud-flinging machine gun on Hillary day in and day out.

    Anyway, it’s just funny:

    * Are the Obamabots naive? If yes, then your parent super delegates shouldn’t listen to you. The SD’s should start listening to their moms.

    * Are they calculating, knowingly misrepresenting facts to “do anything” to get elected? If so, then are they hypocrits, saying Obama is the only one practicing a new form of non-divisive politcs?


    April 5, 2008, 9:15 pm
    Clinton: Nomination Is Worth Fighting For
    By John M. Broder

    EUGENE, Ore. — Campaigning at a high school in South Eugene Saturday, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed to keep fighting for the Democratic nomination.
    A young man who said he was an Obama supporter expressed concern that hostile comments about Senator Barack Obama from Mrs. Clinton and her aides would weaken the party when it finally settles on a nominee.
    Mrs. Clinton replied with animation and a steadily rising voice. She said that, by and large, this had been an extremely civil campaign. But passions rise in politics, she explained.
    “For those of you who are new to politics,” she said, “it can be a little eye-opening especially when you choose sides and you’re for one or the other of us you can take personally anything one of us or the other says. Believe it or not, there have even been some things said about me. I don’t take it personally. I don’t take most of it seriously.”
    Then, suggesting that perhaps Mr. Obama, or at least his supporters, were a bit thin-skinned, she added, “If you can’t take the heat, don’t run for president, because it’s a really hot kitchen in the White House.”
    “You’re supposed to present your case and critique the other case,” she added. “It is not a coronation. This nomination is worth fighting for and I’m going to fight for it.”
    The crowd rewarded her with a standing ovation.

  27. We echo Berkeley Vox on the need for financing (if you are maxed out or simply can’t contribute due to lack of money ask friends to contribute. Ask family members to contribute. Ask around, personal contacts are the first circle of fundraising.)

    From a newstory today about Hillary finally beginning her Pennsylvania ad campaign:

    The ads come as Obama has been outspending Clinton in Pennsylvania, with the state’s April 22 primary only two weeks away. As of Sunday, Obama had spent $3.6 million in the state to Clinton’s $1.3 million, according to data compiled by TNS Media Intelligence/Campaign Media Analysis Group.

    “They’re trying to end the race for the White House with an unyielding media blitz,” an e-mail to supporters says. “Don’t let a sea of Obama ads overwhelm our powerful message in Pennsylvania. Contribute now.”

    Two of Clinton’s ads feature testimonials from popular supporters _ one from Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and the other from Michael Nutter, Philadelphia’s newly installed black mayor. The third is a Spanish-language ad aimed at the city’s Latino community.

    Another ad, airing in Scranton, lets Clinton highlight her roots in the region _ her father was raised there and, as a girl, Clinton and her family spent summers in a cottage on Lake Winola west of Scranton.

    The fifth ad, airing in central and western Pennsylvania, is an economic message with a populist twist.

    “The oil companies, the predatory student loan companies, the insurance companies and the drug companies, have had seven years of a president who stands up for them,” Clinton says. “I intend to be a president who stands up for all of you.”

    When she’s not relying on her own ties to the region, Clinton leans on popular surrogates like Nutter and Rendell. “I’ve known Hillary for 15 years,” Rendell says in his ad. “I know Hillary and I know she cares about us,” Nutter says in his.

    Taken as a whole, the ads portray Clinton as a doer, someone who, in Rendell’s words, has “got what it takes to revitalize our economy, create jobs, cut taxes for the middle class, and to bring affordable health care to all of us.”

  28. filbertsf Says:

    April 8th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
    wbboei, my only problem is I don’t want my tax money going to candidates I dislike. It’s like the gov’t taking our tax money and pouring it into Iraq. We don’t have a say in it.

    At the time, I disliked John Edwards, but b/c he was accepting public financing, my tax money was going to him

    Filbersf: I agree it is not perfect. But if it is a choice between driving out the corrupting influence of big money over our govenment which grows worse every year vs. having to subsidize both candidates on an equal and nominal basis, which would you rather have? I think the latter is he lesser of the two evils. How do you see it, or do you perhaps envision a more enlightened alternative that I havent thought of ? Perhaps the suggestion of former Hollywood mogul Barry Diller that the networks offer free air time for this. I would go along with that for all networks except msnbc and nbc. To my mind they are too corrupt to participate in an honest public debate. Their proper niche is mtv if it still exists.

  29. I found out it is legal to “loan” a friend money to contribute and you can do it in their name using your cc. It’s legal. They just need to promise to pay YOU back.

    I’m going for 50.44 for hubby today. She’s worth it, it’s our country.

    Wonder why she doesn’t take Discover Card As Well.

  30. Barack’s deafening silence on the Rockefeller comment is disgusting. He should be ashamed of himself.


    On the monkey thing, I call my nephews little monkeys all the time because that’s what they act like – wild, little monkeys! Funny, while reading Curious George to them, I never thought of George as Black; he’s just a little monkey.

  31. @filbertsf

    Agreed! 😀
    @ anbritt Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    I still say the whole monkey business thing was/is stupid. He never should have had the woman step down. He would still have the black vote and frankly it was not that big a deal.
    Agreed……….but we are all over looking the bigger picture here!!

    This female delegate that obama asked to step down as a delegate is Latino……..this will not sit well with latino voters at all

    Obama is going to regret this when it comes time for PR to vote!! 😀 GO HILLARY 08!!

  32. Perhaps the suggestion of former Hollywood mogul Barry Diller that the networks offer free air time for this.

    That’s interesting, although unrealistic in modern times. There was a time when the network saw the news as a public service, not for profit. Now with cable news being 24-hour, everyone has to keep up with the Joneses.

    Debates are free b/c it brings in millions of viewers. I can’t see networks willingly giving free air time for each candidate.

    I don’t have a solution. If I did, I’d run for office.

    How do the Europeans do it?

  33. wanted to put this in it’s own comment here so it didn’t get over looked as i think its huge!!!

    i wrote above:
    This female delegate that obama asked to step down as a delegate is Latino……..this will not sit well with latino voters at all
    Obama is going to regret this when it comes time for PR to vote!! 😀 GO HILLARY 08!!

    but then with further thought……..this will hurt him even more in the event he is the nom, with the GE
    all those latino voters in NM,AZ,Ca,TX,Fl,SC,NC…et all

    I sure hope this story gets some legs 😀

  34. you can donate for a friend, as long as umm you have an agreement to get paid back. There is no time limit on when they can pay back either.

  35. Dot48 do you have a link that confirms this? Because the Federal Election Commission seems to be saying otherwise. 🙁

  36. So busy today don’t even have time to check the thread.
    Just caught a snippet of Obama’s questioning of Petraeus, and Lord almighty, above everything else, with a bankrupt federal gov’t, a mortgage crisis, chaos in the middle east, a HC crisis, etc, etc, this country cannot afford Obama for one simple reason;

    This motherfucker talks too slow!
    He’ll never get anything done!!!
    Phony fuckin prick with his Axelrod proofed bullshit!

    Thanks, feel better. catch u later. WBBoei, will check that thing too. latr.

  37. There should be a dedicated political cable channel that covers national debates. This would be the only feed and all MSM would have to run that feed….if they want to participate in the national feeds…there anchors can be moderators but the rules will be independent of outside influences.

  38. WHERE is the CONTACT US link at HRC’S website!!!!!!!

    It’s annoying and self-defeating that the site isn’t more accessible!

    And while I’m on the subject, that new money counter link is the PITS! Don’t show each level down to the penny! It makes it look like she doesn’t have many contributors. (IMHO)

    BTW – no more using the term “MONKEY BARS” to refer to that belovedpiece of playground equipment. Guess we can’t use “JUNGLE JIM” either. Anyone got an alternative that the internets won’t get all offended about?

  39. Oh, before I forget.

    Whomever has been corresponding with Brazille, have you asked her (or might you, please) this simple question:

    “Do you really think you’re going to get away with it?”

  40. Blue Democrat,

    One of my brothers used to say something similar about my ex-husband, that he MOVED too slow and similarly never got anything done. My brother was right. 👿


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    520 North Delaware Avenue
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    Phone: 215.625.0329
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  42. djia @ 5:07p

    it sounds like a dispute between neighbors..i would have stayed out of it. to tell her that her words werein appropriate was unnecessary…i know the whole racial thing about monkeys and what have you, but, tis is so minor and nothing to do with him..i think it will hurt w/ I said it was a neighbor thing and he should have stayed out of it….sometimes my fellow AAs frustrate me with the tings we fuss about while ignoring the elephant in the room

  43. Thanks RJK but I STILL can’t find the page with the link!!!!!!

    Maybe I’m blind???????

    Where IS it?

  44. Does anyone have a list of iconic/historical movers and shakers that Obama has been compared to?

    So far, he’s been compared to Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK, Jesus Christ, Malcolm X, and Tiger Woods.

    Ghandi, Mohammed, Buddha and God himself are late to the party, but I’m sure they’ll soon join party.

  45. RJK,


    I FINALLY found it but it wasn’t easy!

    Home, Hubdate and then tips. 3 STEPS and I had to search through each of the tabs at the top to get to it!

    I have very little knowledge of creating web pages but even I would not have designed the site like that. There should be an obvious visible accessible contact us link at the top of the first page. (IMHO)

  46. On the bottom of her front page on the right is “contact us”. I have emailed and phoned about the new graph…I thinlk we should have the two bars that show the big Goal .. I realize we are asking for more this time but I find it confusing as well.

    As far as FEC..I think it’s debateable .. a loan is just that. A loan. Hillary loaned herself money for the campaign so why can we not Loan someone who is a little dry right now and put it in their name and they can pay us back. My lawyer who is just a divorce attorney doesn’t see any legal problem. It’s the intent, he said. You loan in their name with a oral or written agreement, simple he says.

  47. Birdgal.


    That confirms it.

    I’m blind! Probably never saw it coz her entire front page doesn’t fit on my monitor screen.

  48. Rendell slams Olbermann

    By Craig Thomas

    Posted Apr 8, 2008

    Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell has accused NBC NFL host Keith Olbermann of being on Barack Obama’s payroll.

    “Let me ask you, when is the last time you watched MSNBC? Keith Olbermann?,” Rendell asked Charlie Rose of PBS. “I love Keith`s show. In fact, it breaks my heart, but Keith Olbermann should be on the Obama payroll. If he is not, he should be on the Obama payroll.”
    Rendell is a big supporter of Hilary Clinton, who Olbermann bashes on almost a daily basis.

  49. Hey folks, don’t bother the campaign offices with “suggestions” and “rants.” It’s a waste of the volunteers’ time. They don’t have access to the people who can actually make the changes. They are busy fielding calls from in-staters who have questions about their electoral process.

    If you do have “suggestions” and “rants,” call them late in the day when the calls simmer down.

    Trust me on this.

  50. filbertsf Says:

    April 8th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
    Does anyone have a list of iconic/historical movers and shakers that Obama has been compared to?

    So far, he’s been compared to Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK, Jesus Christ, Malcolm X, and Tiger Woods.

    Reagan. FDR.

  51. Chelsea Clinton campaigning for her mother in Indiana
    Posted: April 8, 2008 08:54 AM PDT

    TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (WISH) – Chelsea Clinton is spending another day in Indiana campaigning for her mother.

    She’s scheduled to speak at Ivy Tech in Indianapolis at around 4:30 p.m. Earlier today, Chelsea spoke at the University of Southern Indiana in Evansville and Indiana University Southeast in New Albany.

    Monday, she spoke at Indiana State University, Purdue University, and in Lawrenceburg.

    On Thursday, her father Bill Clinton will also make campaign stops for his wife.

    The former president plans to be in Boonville, Jasper, Vincennes and Clinton, Indiana. Additional details will be released soon.

  52. birdgal, I listed Jesus. In fact, BO’s homepage hinted at such comparison. Do you see his face amidst the clouds in the sky and he’s looking up as if to his heavenly father? Puke.

    The person that Obama really should be compared to is Jim Jones.

  53. @anbritt

    I totally agree…….too bad for him he didn’t stay out of it

    but now, it may be exactly the leg up that Hill needed 😀

  54. Carby,
    Shows how buried that got. First time I’ve seen it mentioned since I posted it here last week as it happened.
    Shoulda been nes, you’d think, no? Doesn’t the press luv conflcit?

    He moves too slow too! Ever see him walk?

    It’s like he’s going up the side of a mountain……

  55. Does anyone own a copy of the Audacity of Hope or whatever his autobiography is? if you do, I’d love to hear what he lists as his accomplishments between leaving law school and being gifted with legislation by Emil Jones. I can’t find any evidence of the guy doing anything of note in that time period. He was a lawyer at a medium sized firm in Chicago, with ties to Rezko, but didn’t take the lead on any cases. Didn’t write any important briefs. Didn’t offer up any ground shaking arguments in front of a court. Does any know what he was doing other than assisting?

  56. Anbritt,

    I appreciate your perspective.

    At the risk of being misunderstood, let me just say that all groups have DIFFERENT things they’re sensitive about and one group’s sensitivity is no more valid than another’s.

    And (here I go out on the limb) I’m still convinced that if AA women weren’t INCENSED about the reference to their HAIR that IMUS (As despicable as he is) would not have been fired over the Rutgers Basketball Team flap. My AA colleagues told me as much. And I understand. You can spend lots of time and money on hair! (Personally, I’ve always been the cosmetically deranged type and keep mine short just so I don’t have to fiddle with it.) 😀

    Other women have similar issues with their weight.

  57. The FDR thing was over the summer. His people must have pumped the title to the press after a vague economic speech he gave.

  58. djia@ 5:40p

    if the spanish lang television and newspspers get a hold of it …who knows what will happen…depends on how they play it

  59. basement,,0,1773480.storygallery
    This is a great one-page index with preces to the whole long series of Chicago Tribune profiles of Obama from this spring. Answers nearly all questions about his background and career.

    And this, “The Agitator” about Obama’s ‘community organizer’ days (“rub raw the sores of discontent”) (This is page 10 of 10)

  60. well, I just wanted to jump in say have a good night

    i will be off line till tomorrow night sometime.

    Hubby has a job interview out of town, please cross your fingers for us! 😀

    if he get’s it i will be able to donate money to hillary 😀

  61. anbritt Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    djia@ 5:40p

    if the spanish lang television and newspspers get a hold of it …who knows what will happen…depends on how they play it

    do we know who they are? let’s send them the story 😉

  62. GO RENDELLl!!!!!!!

    I wish someone whose not technologically challenged would send Geeks amazing video to ALL the talking heads.

    OR, if someone can tell me how to attach or embed the clip in an email message I will do it. I would send the clip along with a short letter setting up the video’s theme.

  63. Considering that the Ramirez-Sw lady was an BO supporter and delegate, she’s probably a prick herself. I wouldn’t defend her too much.

    It’s sad that the race card was played, but my bitterness towards BO prompts me to say, “I don’t give a damn about her.”

  64. 1950dem

    You know of course that typical old white people are technologically challenged, don’t go online too often, much less blog, and are therefore under-represented in the comments section? :mrgreen:.

    And PA is filled with just that demographic group. i wouldn’t worry about it. A couple of people posted the Survey USA numbers and they’re still looking great for HRC. I just can’t imagine anything less than an 8 to 9 point win and I have a feeling it’s gonna be larger than that.

  65. can’t you see white house call, conferences, etc under him. He’s played the race card and he’d continue to do so. Olgerman would have to be very carefull and stay on his good “graces”. Otherwise, I’d like to see MSNBC totally tank.

    Anyone else find it odd that right now CNN and CBS joining forces. They are going to shove NBC and MSNBC off the waves .. oh happy day.

  66. The Obama camp forcing out a Hispanic delegate because of a poor choice of words to a neighbor may make some of his other Hispanic delegates pause to think.

  67. sounds like he’s got a short fuse .. just the person we DON’T need. He really has let this stuff go to his head. both heads most likely

  68. basil9

    i think Imus was fired because of potential see he was brought back and has not missed a beat..politicans still go on his show…so in my opinion it was all for naught…black folks did not win on that one and yes we do spend alot on our hair but, as I told my daughter make sure you skin is thick. would I be offended if someone called my daughter a little monkey, of course. I would not be contacting a campaign and making a big deal of it only because in the sum of things this woman is not important to my daily life. but thats the way i see things. As an AA myuself, it really bothers me when I see things get really blown up and se have no comments o the things that really affect out race. For instance, here in CA, los angeles in particular, there have been a number of gang killings between lation and blacks. The police are trying to say its not race related, but, just ask the people who live there. My friends are afraid to let their kids leave the house. Think bho will comment on that, guess again. recently, a solsier in Iraq had to come home to her 17 year old sons funeral. He had a basketball scholarship, he was a good and student, he had just left his house and was walking down the street talking on his cellphone. driveby. his father heard the shots and said he knew it was his son that got hit..had to call his wife in iraq…said he told his son stay clean, get good grades and we will get you out of here…hear any of those race pimps speak out on thiss, no..didn’t think so. this story broke my heart when i was watching the mother on the news…this is an issue that affects many lives, this is why i still say monkey business is a waste of time

  69. Hi, Everyone: Over the last two weeks, I’ve only had time to lurk – was traveling for work. I may have missed it up-thread, but I thought you might like to see the extremely local coverage in the Tribune that caused the fuss – Stinky’s crew must have an excellent clipping service!,0,568283.story

    Pat B. is back (from vacation or exile?), Joe has expressed his secret love, SUSA is up 20, all in all, a pretty good Tuesday!

  70. Carbynew: interesting article, good soundbytes; especially:

    Mr. Taylor was stirred to ask, “What should we learn about Obama’s judgment and fortitude from the fact that he sat passively in the pews for 20 years and gave money and took his children while Wright, his friend and ‘spiritual adviser,’ spewed far-left, America-hating, white-bashing, conspiracy-theorizing, loony, ‘God damn America’ vitriol from the pulpit?”


  71. Hey everybody .. Nancy Grace show at 8pm is beating Hardball, Gregory and close on Olgerman

    If you get HNN and can watch Nancy at 8pm .. believe me she is one hard worker .. she has a spine. It gives me a good reality check and we can screw Keithie at the same time.

  72. somebody mentioned his book – “Audacity of Hope”..

    just a lot of big words…and essentially a clone of various words of others on how the world is different yet the same.

    i had read it lats year and was not impressed.

    I borrowed it from my way would I buy it!

    And last week, I looked it up again in the library for what he said about the day of 9/11…while he was in the IL senate.

    He devoted just half a page for that dreadful event….how he had heard it while going to the office…and then watched with some of his work colleagues……
    And then a few days later calling his freind sin NY and making donation….

    It was a little cold describing that event….no mention of any praying etc…or visting his church services – or any otehr services following that event…


    And then he says that he reassured a lot of Arabs and Pakistanis in the US in case there was some backlash on them…”I will stand by them”…

    Not much mention of the evils of terrorism!!!!

  73. Apparently, Chris Matthews and Norah O’Donnell said today Hill was most effective at questioning Patreaus. Then, Matthews said if she loses the Senate will be better off for having her. Uh, no, Chris the country will be better off for having her as President.

  74. I’m glad Obama fired his LATINA delegate since Team Obama made RACE a political tactic that they will continue to use this campaign.

    I expect them to use race against McCain like they did Bill and Hillary Clinton and against any Black person who disagree with them will be labeled an “sellout”, “Uncle Tom” or whatever names Dr. Wright will think of…Obama will parrot for his own self promotion.

    What I find so nasty about the Obama campaign is his mean spiritness against those who disagree with him….Geraldine Ferraro did not deserve the treatment she received from Team Obama and that smugged Clarence Page will rule the day they decided to use RACE BAITING as a political tactic on friends on Civil Rights.

    Those same friends will not forget or forgive and when the day comes you will need their help, that hand will not be there. I’m old school I don’t believe in this crap where you back stab me and I’m suppose to forget and forgive for the better good of the party….”EFF” the party, the party doesn’t deserve support if they don’t live up to their principles and values.

    The Democratic Party is suppose to be a leader against SEXISM and promote equality but time and time again in this campaign season this party has not STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE and in turn has been a proponent of the most SEXEST tactics promoted against Hillary Clinton and her FEMALES supporters.

  75. anbritt,
    I am so sorry about your friend’s son. I believe I saw coverage of that horrible incident in the news and it is absolutely heartbreaking.
    I understand (even though I’m white) about the Hispanic/AA feuds because for 7 years before I got sick I worked in a district that was probably half and half and the vendettas and bad blood were well known. In my old town, a group of AA kids arbitrarily beat up and killed a homeless Hispanic man on the last day of school. in Newark, 4 great smart AA kids were gunned down in cold blood for no reason by a group of Latinos.
    The resentments and bad blood is all too real. Can it be solved? IMHO, we can legislate, monitor and encourage civil behavior. It’s a tough issue. Personally, i have always chosen friends based on their personalities and perspectives, not their skin tone. I’ve come to the concluasion, sadly, that human nature is essentially tribal and we seem predisposed as a species to pit “us” (whoever that may be against ‘them’, (anyone who isn’t ‘us’. As a lone wolf myself, I’ve opted out of most group based organizations except for those filled with people with whom I share similar interests, as on Hillryis44.
    Again, I’m so sorry for your friend’s loss. Please extend my condolences to them And thanks for the dialogue. I think we all need more of that, and the kind in which we can feel free to express our opinions without worrying that the other person will be offended by terminology.
    And while the subject doesn’t come up much here, there are PLENTY of funny, idiosyncratic, and downright STRANGE characteristics among us white fol, as I’m sure you may have noticed. 😀

  76. Have you noticed thatwhen Bambi throws someone in his campaign overboard it is always a woman–my point being simply that they should all be thrown overboard. McPeak is a vile sexist who has stepped on his dick often enough to be consigned to davy jones locker too but they keep him around him. They are all expendable.

  77. anbritt, that’s interesting. See the word monkey to describe kids is so common among whites, and I would guess latinos, but maybe not among african americans. It’s probably cultural. That’s one thing this election has taught me. We all have to take a deep breath and understand that what is perfectly culturally accepted among some might not be among others, but often there really is no offense intended.

  78. Illinois,

    I just read the article. This is absurd! And the woman (Ramirez) was issued a CITATION for disorderly conduct and has to appear in COURT????

    As I said on the other thread, ALL kids climb trees, just like monkeys, and swing from “Momkey BARS” or should I say “JUNGLE JIM” or is there another more politically correct term (and having spent many days in the tress myself I actually did sometimes feel like a monkey and . . . )
    wait a minute here . . . Monkey’ rights! We’re violating the monkey’s civil liberties by daring to compare humans to them . . . oh, what an insult. :mrgreen:

    Sorry – I do not GET the being called a monkey for climbing in a tree offense. I’ve been called a monkley on many a glorious tree-climbing occasion.
    On the other hand, if Ramirez had called the kids monkeys while they WEREN’T climbing tress, I suppose that would be an entirely different matter. 👿

  79. Re: Don Imus…it was time for him to go!

    How many chance do you need before you get the message?

    Too many people of different stripe had been attacked under the guise of “freedom of the press” and freedom of speech but Don Imus offensive speech got him run off the air because of the power of the purse and inroads on companies boards that are now diversed.

  80. mj,

    ‘See the word monkey to describe kids is so common among whites, and I would guess latinos, but maybe not among african americans.

    ‘It’s probably cultural.’

    BINGO!!!!!!!!!! 😀

  81. Don Imus is a pig, but as we’ve seen with Chris Matthews there is apparently a big market for pigs. 🙁

  82. carby,

    I agree Imus is a pig. And it was about time he got called out on his insults. The point is, he’s an equal opportunity insulter and spared no one, no group, no race, no gender.

    Sort of like howard Stern, whom I also used to regularly NOT listen to. I’m just saying that Sharpton grandstanded forever about the Rutgers Team, the same way he does whenever he senses another 15 minutes, the same way he brazenly did with Tawana Brawley and people from NY and NJ see straight through him.
    Yeah, Imus is back but Schuster, Tweetie and crew got away with a slap on the wrist. They had to apologize. And now WHO’s set to really take the fall for her foul-mouthed commentator colleagues? Randi Rhodes . . . a woman. :mrgreen:

  83. From reading the Chicago paper the women didn’t call the children monkeys but told one of the fathers that the kid were acting like monkeys on a diseased tree.

    Now, Monkey and Ape are not words to call Black folks as those words are OFFENSIVE to us due to the racist history of this country. And is on the same leve as the “N” word and others. It’s just not something we like to hear….like other groups (Japanese, Native American, Chinese, Polish,…) have OFFENSIVE words that I will not repeat here.

    It would have been nice if the ticket had a sensitivity class or a warning that was giving with the explanation of why the word is OFFENSIVE and if she did it again…then you might have a issue but the way it was handle….

  84. See carby, she may not even be aware of that. So sensitivity training, or perhaps just someone explaining to her why it was offensive, would surely have sufficed.

  85. carynew—Imus was runoff the air because of the threat of boycott but, you see he was back on the air in no time really…and the politicans were ready willing and able to go back on his show…so all the browbeating that went on was for show…this is why i din’t pay much attentiion to this kind of stuff…now some of those same people who were defending imus ar hollarin racism at every turn in this presidential contest..i am speaking of matthews, olberman, russert and the like….

  86. “now some of those same people who were defending imus ar hollarin racism at every turn in this presidential contest..i am speaking of matthews, olberman, russert and the like….”

    Wow, that’s totally true. What a bunch of hacks.

  87. Texan4Hillary, we’ll offer this on Edwards: Edwards dropped out when he did badly in Florida. Edwards clearly did not see the Florida vote as meaningless. Big Media does not point this out.

  88. admin Says:

    April 8th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
    Texan4Hillary, we’ll offer this on Edwards: Edwards dropped out when he did badly in Florida. Edwards clearly did not see the Florida vote as meaningless. Big Media does not point this out.

    That is an excellent point.

  89. Well i heard a very good explanation today of why Hillary’s lead in the SUSA poll has increased since last week, basically, Bambi’s comment about “baby is a punishment” went down like a lead balloon in a lot of places and also Bambi’s inability to bowl made him look like a total wuss with PA’s menfolk.

    Yup I knew it, that bowling thing was a bad idea. He came off as a total wuss to the men because he bowled like a 5 yr old.

  90. well, if someone bases their vote, on how well a candidate bowls, that is a bit lame.

    Hillary has said, she isn’t a very good bowler. Being able to bowl, does not guarantee a good president.

    I would think, the “baby is punishment” would be more of a factor.

  91. moonpluto,

    Did you catch that clip of him asking one of the Talking Heads to teach him how to FISH!!!!!!

    That was priceless.

  92. You all.
    I love you to death.
    Thank you ALL so much for getting the word out about volunteer blogging for Hillary.

    We still need at LEAST 15 more people for Indiana.
    We’d like to start on NC (Obamatrons are already there in force.)
    That’s 171 newspapers. SO PLEASE–Keep it going–

    If you can volunteer to leave comments on-line in local papers for Hillary please contact me at

    It makes a huge DIFFERENCE to inform local voters– who are now getting their info from MISLEADING OBAMA ads.

  93. quick note to say I made a few calls to PA tonight. All were very pro-Hillary. One woman’s husband is voting for Obama or McCain but she said she is working on it. I gave her the web site which she hasn’t looked at for data.

    Everyone I spoke with is speechless when I mention that she put out a position on Breast cancer. Its a real winner.

    PA is ours to win so everyone and anyone man the phones for supergirl Hillary Clinton!

  94. mj Says:

    April 8th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
    “now some of those same people who were defending imus ar hollarin racism at every turn in this presidential contest..i am speaking of matthews, olberman, russert and the like….”

    Wow, that’s totally true. What a bunch of hacks.
    Imus was not BANNED or BLACKLISTED, he was given plenty of warnings in which his arrogant ass ignored…so that last straw broke the camel’s back and he had to go!

    Now, MSNBC and others are PIGS…I will not forget or forgive after November and will do anything and everything to remind them of it after November.

    I’m “old school” and I won’t forget or forgive…no more being the little women…it’s time to bring out the knives and cut that pig up…after November.

  95. spega,

    I have emailed you 3 times and have yet to get a response from you!

    The blogging is something I could take on.

  96. What could this mean (nothing?)

    Strangest exchange / brief conversation with Texas AA co-worker (Muslim supporting BHO who knows I’m an ardent HRC supporter) today in passing. Highly educated man, asked me very seriously, “Do you sense something is happening in America?” Feeling that this was a potential “keg of dynamite” question or lead-in about politics that I did not intend to touch, I replied,”Well, of course. The dollar is in a death spiral, we’re on the verge of a huge recession…it’s anybody’s guess.” Felt this was a safe detour from further discussion. Then he said, “No, I mean something is happening. I’ve talked to five people in the last couple of days who are getting their license to carry a concealed handgun – in fact, I am too.” Startled, yet determined not to “take the bait,” I politely brushed it off and eased away. Left me completely puzzled. What do you suppose is being talked now in this demographic group? This was so very weird and out of the blue.

  97. curiosity,
    I gotta admit I’ve thought about getting a gun, too, especially after I was mugged for the third time. I never did coz I realized I could be found at fault if the attacker was injured. 😀

  98. Howard Dean had the NERVE to send a request for contributions with the headline;
    “McCain’s huge gaffe?”
    He was referring to the mix-up between Shiite and Sunni. I gotta admit, I have the same problem coz both names start with S. it is confusing.
    Anyway, here’s my response to Dean.

    You’ve got to be kidding! What about Howard Dean, the DNC’s and the Democratic Party’s HUGE GAFFE in disenfranchising Florida and Michigan and trying to rig the election?
    Every spare penny I have goes to Senator Clinton. If the nomination is stolen from her by Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, Ted Kennedy and the DNC, I will absolutely support John McCain. At least I know he’s a patriot and cares about the country, unlike Senator Obama and his wife who experienced their first moment of pride in America just a couple of months ago.

  99. basil9 –

    Lots of people do have or carry one for those very reasons. But, his tone was so anticipatory. Makes me wonder what kind of dogma (crap) is being dispersed throughout this particular group of people to have this be the case (or at least stated to me?) Is it guilty conscience or perceived fear due to an ongoing (Wright-style) persecution complex? I found it extremely strange and indicative of his probable unjustified paranoia. Anyway, just thought I would mention. If any reports of spike in applications nationwide for concealed handguns (like I would know?), guess it could mean just about anything or God knows what.

  100. hillary nails obama on double standard on npr-

    NORRIS: Senator, I want you to react to something that I keep hearing among voters, and increasingly among people who cover the campaign – both those who are reporters and those who speak about the campaign on television, on radio – the statement that the only way that Hillary Clinton can win is if she’s willing to win ugly. When you hear that, what does that mean to you? How do you react to that?

    SEN. CLINTON: Well, I don’t’ know what it means because there is no way for Senator Obama to win unless he also obtains a significant number of superdelegates. I understand that there has been, throughout this campaign, something of a double standard. I accept it; I live with it.

    MS. NORRIS: What is the double standard?

    SEN. CLINTON: Well, I think that it’s pretty obvious to anybody who has followed it.

    MS. NORRIS: Just in case it’s not clear to someone, I don’t want to assume. I just want you to tell me what you think the double standard is because I don’t’ want to assume.

    SEN. CLINTON: No, but you know – for example, why is the question directed at me? I mean, neither of us has the number of delegates to win. It is a problem for both of us. And Senator Obama’s supporters refuse to support a revote in Michigan, which I thought was rather odd for the Democratic Party to be against another vote. Senator Obama’s supporters wanted to end this contest and short circuit it so that the votes of the people in the next upcoming contest wouldn’t count because he has a slight lead. And it’s by my no means definitive. It would have been like calling the championship game last night with two minutes left to go because somebody was ahead. And that’s not how it turned out.

    So I mean, the question is often directed at me or my supporters because obviously the other campaign has done a very good job of framing it that way. But the question can equally go to the other side. Where will you get the delegates to win?

  101. Relax, he probably just meant things feel more dangerous. They always are more dangerous during economic downturns.

  102. basil9- Good for you. The pieces really are all falling together – and it does look more and more like a completely well thought out scheme to “eliminate” Fl and MI from the landscape. The more details that emerge about other states which also moved their dates up without penalty, and the penalty “decided on” after the hearing…and the shady connections to Dean (college roomate and brother working for BHO) in throwing the election…the more incensed the masses will become. By November…the pressure on Dean et al, will be all out warfare (not in a violent sense).

  103. my brother and sister in law just got gun permits. My husband had one but it expired. I sort of feel a “fright” in the land. It’s a sense of the unknown .. thugs make you feel frightened. I’d never want to start in office with that rapport with the people

  104. great response by Hillary. Another thing she needs to pound on in the campaign

    I think her new pollster is gonna be good for the campaign..I like his approach already

  105. curiosity,
    Just caught that your co-worker is a BO supporter. 😳

    Sounds like he was trying to ‘rattle’ you. I’m sure he knows people who carry handguns (as we all do.) And he knows you support HRC and he doesn’t.

    I would have asked him exactly what he meant by ‘something happening’ and the relationship between that statement and handguns.

    It wasn’t a threat, was it? I once had an 8th grader confront me after I’d called his parents to discuss his behavior problems and say that I’d gotten him in trouble and when I said, that’s good, you should be in trouble, he said, “Yeah. They took away my gun.”

  106. I’m MAD tonight. Just shot off this email to Lou (who I generally love) DObbs.
    Dear Lou,
    I was surprised that you let Mike Simone disseminate misinformation about Senator Clinton. The story about the woman who died because she didn’t have health coverage has been proven to be absolutely true. (See today’s Washington Post.)
    As usual, your guests didn’t bother to do their research before they LIED about the facts.
    And as for the Chicago anchor saying if Senator Clinton had been any other candidate she would have been forced out of the race, that is absurd. Senator Clinton is ahead in electoral representation and, once Florida and Michigan are enfranchised, she will be ahead of Senator Obama in popular votes. In addition, almost 450,000 of Obama’s 700,000 vote lead come from his home county (Cook County) in his home state. Can you say Chicago Politics?.
    I’m disappointed, Lou. You usually don’t let such disinformation pervade your show. I certainly hope this isn’t a harbinger of what’s to come and that you’ve drunk the kool-aid along with all other cable news shows! If that happens, I’ll just have to cancel my cable account and toss the TV in the trash as your show is the only one I’ve watched for the past few months

  107. well maybe Hillary needs to be notified…put extra secret service around her. sounds like they are arming themselves for a reason. Maybe they intend to put a hit on her. How easier for them to “clinch” it. I’m serious.

  108. No, it wasn’t threatening in any way. Paranoia is what it sounded like to me. No telling what hate and venom he associates himself with away from the workplace, either. But, it does illustrate to me how whacked out these Obamabots are, and it concerns me about what Malcolm X-type wannabes they are perhaps trying to emulate? This Wright-style of anti-Americanism could be simmering into a slow burn, and some groups have strange ways to “justify” their actions. BHO has set back race ralations to the pre-1950’s IMHO.

  109. didn’t watch Lou Dobbs, but hearing from you Basil9 and some of the TM posters, I am disappointed too – that they did do any fact checks (and Obama panelists checks) before perpetuating THE LIE (let’s hope that this and any other stupidity will roll off the voters’ backs:

    MEANWHILE – I love Anglachel’s Journal (excerpts):

    The media will, of course, bash Hillary. They’ve done it for decades now and the public has tuned it out. Ho-hum, yeah, yeah, she killed Vince Foster out of jealousy over his involvement with a lesbian drug dealer out in Whitewater, whatever. She’s evil incarnate and is a corporatist communist who will turn us all into imperialst socialists, yawn, yeah, I heard that somewhere. What the current campaign has also shown is that the nastier the media gets to her, the more strongly people rally to her side.

    Hillary is the opposite of a media darling. She’s the voters’ darling, and that is how you win elections.

  110. This may bear out the snippets picked up in hidden, hard-to-find articles and comments about the threats, assaults, and intimidation that are going on behind the scenes (besides the Texas caucuses) that the mainstream media is aware of but of course,won’t report.

  111. Oh Noooooooo!

    I just flicked to Idol and Paula’s ‘puppies’ are bursting out of their pen and Simon coyly referred to her ‘chihuahuas.’ Someone’s gotta tell her!

    (OK – I admit that since I can’t watch the news shows I’ve been reduced to tuning into the “Dog Whisperer,” the History Channel and PBR Bullriding (and Idol when I’m desperate and the previous 3 aren’t on). :OOPS:


  113. birdgal Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
    well, if someone bases their vote, on how well a candidate bowls, that is a bit lame.

    Huh? It’s a judgement issue, a pr/arrogance issue, a cultural credibility issue.

    If you can’t bowl, don’t go to a bowling alley and show it. Don’t act like you can just walk into their culture and become an insider. It’s arrogant, it’s insulting. It’s stupid. It shows you think they’re stupid. Going to a deli and asking for weird stuff shows you know nothing and haven’t bothered to do any homework either.

  114. wbboei,
    I can send you the list Diva sent me. If you hit control and click the link pulls up the emails addy’s

    But I can’t post it here so you have to email me at the address over at TableTalk under members.

    BTW – I commented on your letter over there. Did you see it?

  115. 1950’s dem,

    I thought birdgal was kidding! I guess I have a warped sense of humor.


    What did you mean?

  116. Basil: thanks so much. am dying to see your respose. having trouble finding private area on site. i was up all night working on that letter and other hillary stuff so I am even more dysfuncitonal than I normally am. Again Basil thanks a million.

    Glad to see we are getting those ads up in PA!!!

  117. I am finally cured of watching 24 hr news! It took this election to do it. My kids are overjoyed!
    So, anybody pls. fill me in or tell me where to go to find out about this monkey story!

  118. wbboei,

    OK. Saw your link at hills and sent partial uncommitted SD emails to you. Let me know if you got it.

  119. re 9/11 and Obama’s book AUDACITY:

    And then he says that he reassured a lot of Arabs and Pakistanis in the US in case there was some backlash on them…”I will stand by them”…

    Maybe they should come over here while he bombs Pakistan? (See him getting burned in effigy in Pakistan in summer 2007 for threatening to invade and/or bomb Pakistani territory.

  120. Wbboei,
    Go to
    1 – TableTalk
    2 – Hillaryis44people (4th one down)
    3 – Recent Posts (near bottom of the page)
    4 – SD Letter feedback (top post)

  121. Thanks Terrondt. Few people (especially incense burners) get the humor. Our favorite was “Arianna Huff n’ Puff”.

  122. rjk1957 right. Oregon also looks doable. Michael Barone thinks Hillary can win there too. What matters is Pennsylvania. The bigger the win there the bigger the wins later. It’s why Obama is worried.

  123. She needs a few big guns in N.C. I actually think Elizabeth Edwards would be the biggest get. I just think people feel comfortable with her. She’d actually make a good veep not withstanding her health issues. That is one lady with grit.

  124. admin
    Don’t forget the 31 delegates up for grab in SD and MT. Let’s see how Obama does on primaries out west and not Fracases.

  125. everybody tomorrow .. phonebank if you can. I’m telling you it will give you more support than you get for Hillary. Her supporters want to be reached out to..the more you talk..the better.

    Tell them like it is..Pennsylvania is do or die. They get the message .. Tell them he is spending enormous money to try to BUY their votes. They don’t like to sold a dud bill of goods.


  126. ADMIN,

    I’m still chuckling over the ‘internets.’

    Can you email me something with Geeks video embedded in it, or tell me how to include the link? i want to send it to Tweetie, Pumkinhead, Ogreman, Cadaverdy, Schitzer, Cr@pstal etc.

  127. hey how did Hillary do today with the general about the war in Iraq compared with Obama? I can t hear so Im curious what’ll happen?

  128. justmeinmountdorafl

    Obama sounded like a bag of wind going in circles and pretty much nowhere and Hillary was more to the point. TV pundits agree out of the 3 Hillary did the better job of questioning. Just goes to show once again who has a better grasp of the issues.

  129. thanks rjk1957, appreciate it! Heard Obama went on an all attack on purchasing ads for PA stations, sounding more desperate by the day

  130. rjk1957

    Goes to show you, if his speeches are not written in advance, he can’t think. uh, uh, uh, uh, he is so long winded

  131. ANYONE!!!!!!!!!

    I can’t download Geeklove’s video from the previous thread. I thought I copied it to Real Player but it’s not showing up. Can anyone tell me how to embed it or copy it so I can link it and send to all the talking heads featured on it??

    (Going to bed now but will check in the morning)

  132. wbboei ,
    There isn’t any such web site….takes time to compile. I have PA, NC, IN, CA, MD and WV. Adding states when I can. Let me know if you want.

  133. i read on realclear politcs that hillary started 5 new ads in pa. 2 weeks out and the airwar begins. YAY!

  134. wbboei,
    Can only email govs and senators. You can only email reps if you live in their district. Snail mail is a disaster b/c of security in congressional mail office. Best to fax. DNC members are hard to find as they often have no official designation. Have to dig.


  136. Ann,

    I have a partial uncommitted SD list that Diva sent me. By hitting control and clicking the link brings you to the individual email pages. I tried contacting Wbboei at hills but guess s(he) hasn’t found it.

    If you want, I’ll send you the SD list, too. Let me know.

  137. Chris Matthews’ Explosive Profile: Forced To Apologize To Clinton, Wants To Be Russert, Afraid Of Being Kidnapped

    Patrick Gavin at FishbowlDC has obtained an advance copy of this coming Sunday’s New York Times Magazine, which features a long, juicy profile of Chris Matthews by Mark Leibovich. In the piece, Matthews admits that MSNBC executives forced him to apologize for sexist remarks against Hillary Clinton and speculates that he would be an inviting target for a propaganda kidnapping, which is why he won’t visit Syria.

    The profile also reveals Matthews’ deep job insecurity: his contract expires next year and “NBC officials seem bent on conveying the message that they could get the same ratings, or better ones, for considerably less” than the $5 million per year he gets now. Matthews is particularly suspicious of David Gregory, who is commonly perceived to be auditioning to be is replacement.

  138. Obama Outspends: Barack Obama isn’t just outspending Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania; he’s outspending every politician ever:

    Obama is currently spending $2.2 million per week on television here, over twice what Hillary Clinton is spending and an unprecedented ad buy in Pennsylvania, according to Democratic media consultant Neil Oxman, who is not working for a candidate.

    “Nobody has ever spent 2.2 million in this state: not Rendell, not Specter, not Casey, not Santorum, not Bush, not Kerry,” said Oxman, naming the best-funded candidates to run statewide in recent years. “That’s unbelievable.”

    Unbelievable, yes and he is still going to lose BIG!!!

  139. I read the monkey story, but how about the one where Obama asks a SD to step down, is this the person?

  140. rjk1957 Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
    Obama Outspends: Barack Obama isn’t just outspending Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania; he’s outspending every politician ever:

    One good thing about this year’s contest — money isn’t always prevailing. Romney had tons of money but Huckabee did better. Hillary wins big states where Obama is out-spending her 4-1 iirc.

  141. Okay-
    I’m confused–
    a Hispanic WOMAN makes a comment –which may or may not have been intended to be offensive (I would say ‘no’)–but one neighbor hears it–the police arrive, and she is fined $75.
    An African American MAN preaches hate speak (not open to interpretation) every Sunday to thousands of people—and he is the spiritual advisor to a presidential candidate???
    I think we should all call Chicago PD and report Wright for offensive language and hate speak.

  142. Where do some of these Hillary supporters get my email? I don’t know many them but I’m getting a stream of emails linking me to this or that video.

    Don’t get me wrong. I love all Hill supporters, but I don’t get where they got email address.

  143. So Saint Barack is spend more in PA than any candidate ever. If he still loses to Hillary, the drumbeat for him to withdraw needs to be fierce! Anyone want to take bets on how many media slugs call on him to withdraw?

  144. well I just got another email from no neck Dean AFTER I told them to remove me from their list.

    I let that MF have it. I told him he should be ashamed to call McCain a Gaffe when the biggest GAFFE is not counting two whole states in the country who have PURPLE fingers just like the Iraqis that we are trying to lead to democracy.

    I told him this party is showing real leadership when they want to stop votes from being counted, cut off states from voting because they chose to go later…totally strip people who just went to vote on the designated day.

    I told that MFer that I’d support Mccain before I’d give another red cent to this party and their shitty treatment of voteres.

    I told him at LEAST McCain FOUGHT .. for what he believes .. which is far less than what is being shown by our party leadership.

    I told him to go back to Vermont.

  145. Uh, Oh. If Hillary did this (as blatantly, all campaigns do this stagecraft) MSNBC would go on emergency red alert Def Con 5 Triple A 5 Star mobilization:

    While the crowd was indeed diverse, some students at the event questioned the practices of Mrs. Obama’s event coordinators, who handpicked the crowd sitting behind Mrs. Obama. The Tartan’s correspondents observed one event coordinator say to another, “Get me more white people, we need more white people.” To an Asian girl sitting in the back row, one coordinator said, “We’re moving you, sorry. It’s going to look so pretty, though.”

    “I didn’t know they would say, ‘We need a white person here,’ ” said attendee and senior psychology major Shayna Watson, who sat in the crowd behind Mrs. Obama. “I understood they would want a show of diversity, but to pick up people and to reseat them, I didn’t know it would be so outright.”

  146. admin, this needs to be forwarded to all the media outlets! NOW OBAMA IS TRYING TO PLAY THE RACE CARD AND FOR THE MEDIA TO PLAY INTO THIS!

  147. filbert I got a email today that I totally sent to ip provider to check out for threat. These thugs are peeling our addy’s from back in the pages. I’m sending every name I don’t know from now on to my provider as a “threat”. They’ll take action, this is harassment.

  148. Admin, I was at the Town Hall thing she did on Feb 4th and I can attest that the Clinton campaign never told us where to sit based on color. It was first come first serve when it came to sitting on the stage.

    Obama folks are all about race.

  149. off topic .. poor Howard Stern on Greta. He’s giving Greta a real going over for the lying. He’s calling her out big time. At least Greta is taking it. Lin Wood good job. John O Quinn was dirty too. This whole fiasco was dastardly towards Howard.

  150. hey lets raise another 9,458 for the 111,000 signs Hillary wants to put up in PA

    hey lets raise another 421,845 for the radio ads Hillary wants to put up in PA

    hey lets raise another 70,446 for the online ads Hillary wants to put up to help win Hillary

    and finally, let’s raise 2,155,769 to have television ads


  151. filbert .. I know the ones that I was supposed to get. Should I know a Joseph who needs an immediate reply?

  152. Howard K Stern loves that baby girl so much. I feel for him, he still loves her so much. Boy that kind of committment is hard to find .. he says she was the boss over him. I always thought he got flogged by the media too. It was this time last year that I was watching with fascination at all the stuff.

  153. dot48 – what?

    Anyways, I got 3 emails for that one YouTube video entitled Mad As Hell.

    As I’ve posted yesterday, I like the video, but I think the person should monitor the comments or turn it off.

    Some of the comments from anti-Hillary folks are disrespectful and stupid.

    If I was going to post a pro-Hillary video, I don’t want any Obamabots throwing their trash in my backyard.

  154. Wow, lots going on. SUSA! SUSA! SUSA!
    We knew those lying bitch bastards like MSNBC were stacking polls, just as they tried before NH,TX & OH, etc.
    Our girl is running strong and tough. Now that SUSA has NC at -10% (what I’ve been dreaming of, striking distance) I call an all-out Hillary Hammering to Show The World Who BO is Once and For All approach.
    Even making it much closer in NC will effect momentum greatly, media aside. SD’s will notice.

    And oh, Elizabeth Edwards joining Center for American Progress is as close to an Edwards endorsement as we’ll see short of a press conference. IN the event it wasn’t covered here (didn’t see it), it’s run by John Podesta, BC’s former chief of staff.
    Major news there. So if the Edwards’ have gone this far….

  155. has the meter changed at all today? I’m a little miffed at the update of stuff but I know it’s not her fault she can’t be everywhere and do everything.

    She’s fighting an all out assualt.

    Interesting news on TweetyBird. I HOPE the fucker loses his job. His ratings are the lowest oMSNBC..heh h deserves to have to starve a few months. I HOPE he loses his job. If he was smart he’d get fair with Hillary and play fair with her. He MIGHT keep his job that way. He’s going down the tank if he doesn’t stop bashing her.,

  156. Pelosi Wants to Reduce the Number of Superdelegates, Curb Their Influence

    Nancy, I agree! Why don’t you and your daughter Christine take the lead and resign as Super delegates for the good of the party.

  157. rjk1957, sounds as if she’s aware that the superdelegates may be swayed to go Hillary’s way and wants to reduce the possibility of this happening

  158. can’t read the article .. is she trying to do this NOW. WTF is wrong with these people.

    She can’t make all the rules .. why don’t she just go back to her job.

    Lets bombard the bitch again tomorrow .. what say you all. Tell her to do the job we sent her to washington to do and STFU about other stuff.

    She really has some kind of complex .. she thinks she is some kind of god. She’s an asshole.

  159. “Get me more white people,”

    Wow Admin, just wow. We all know this made-for TV stuff goes on, but a little discretion maybe?
    No question, if it was on the other foot, I’d bet anything there would be universal calls for Hillary to drop out based on this.

    BTW, isn’t that analogous of the BO campaign?

  160. dot48, I dont that’d happen in this election year but apparently she’s learned something so to say this

  161. let’s not react to her in this manner let’s point out WHY Hillary should be our candidate and voice our OVERWHELMING SUPPORT for her and the liklihood that our votes may go to McCain or someone else should Obama be the candidate but let’s not TRASH the person

  162. For the person reporting on Greta’s show, could you please clarify what was going on? Howard Stern was accusing who of lying? And lying about what?

  163. Dot48

    She is talking about future elections. The primary system needs to be overhauled anyway, this proportional allocation of delegates based on congressional districts is what really has this election screwed up. Go back to winner takes all and be done with it. Maybe have a national primary day in June where the entire country votes on the same day.

  164. the other Howard lK. Stern that was with Anna Nicole Smith…he loved her so much. When Daniel Died he says Anna died a little that day too…later she died of an overdose andc the whole Larry/Anna/Howard/DanniLynn story came out. I felt for Howard cause I knew he loved that baby but that most likely it did belong to Larry. I still think Larry thought there was a ton of $ though…none though come to find out.

  165. we need more white people.
    While the crowd was indeed diverse, some students at the event questioned the practices of Mrs. Obama’s event coordinators, who handpicked the crowd sitting behind Mrs. Obama. The Tartan’s correspondents observed one event coordinator say to another, “Get me more white people, we need more white people.” To an Asian girl sitting in the back row, one coordinator said, “We’re moving you, sorry. It’s going to look so pretty, though.”

    “I didn’t know they would say, ‘We need a white person here,’ ” said attendee and senior psychology major Shayna Watson, who sat in the crowd behind Mrs. Obama. “I understood they would want a show of diversity, but to pick up people and to reseat them, I didn’t know it would be so outright.”

  166. As long as the election system maintains honesty .. we can overcome. We cannot overcome THIEVES who ito STEAL votes. We had our votes stolen by the supreme court and I didnt like it then and I don’t like the sound of it now.

    Virgie Howard hates Howard Stern .. Anna was estranged from her mother, she hated her own mom. She disgusts me.

  167. wbboei,

    Don’t have the link for that site anymore.
    Can you email me that piece at vcgroups@aol?

  168. If you can’t tell by now, when I FIGHT for someone I won’t back down. I’m in till the last dawg dies. I was with Howard till the end and he’s come out on top .. he’s getting them all back.

    I encourage all of you to continue to boycott MSNBC .. plunk their ratings. Boycott any programs on CNN that are Hillary bashing .. which IMO is all of them. I haven’t watched MSNBC except for Morning Joe.

    BTW, we all should send him a thank you for being nice to Hillary today. Maybe he sees where the bread and butter is????

  169. Pelosi is an idiot. It’s not the SDs. It’s the fricken proportional allocation. I think the only clear way out of this mess is a ntaional primary.

    I also think she is trying to undermine the SDs now as a tactical way of saying Hill shouldn’t win even if she has the pop and the SDs.

  170. I have a solution for the middle name issue for BO. Given his comment at a fundraiser this week about having more foreign policy experience than both HRC and McCain, I will now refer to him as:

    Barack “All I Needed to Know about Foreign Policy I learned in Kindergarten in Indonesia” Obama

  171. Is it just me or did Obama confuse Iraq and Iran today during his questioning?

    OBAMA: OK, let me shift to Iran.

    Just as — and, Ambassador Crocker, if you want to address this, you can. Just as it’s fair to say that we’re not going to completely eliminate all traces of Al Qaeda in Iraq, but we want to create a manageable situation, it’s also true to say that we’re not going to eliminate all influence of Iran in Iraq, correct?

    That’s not our goal. That can’t be our definition of success, that Iran has no influence in Iraq.

    So can you define more sharply what you think would be a legitimate or fair set of circumstances in the relationship between Iran and Iraq, that would make us feel comfortable drawing down our troops?

    AMB. RYAN CROCKER: Senator, as I said in my statement, we have no problem with a good, constructive relationship between Iran and Iraq. The problem is with the Iranian strategy of backing extremist militia groups and sending in weapons and munitions that are used against Iraqis and against our own forces.

    OBAMA: Do we feel confident that the Iraqi government is directing these — this aid to these special groups?
    Do we feel confident about that, or do we think that they’re just tacitly tolerating it? Do you have some sense of that?

    CROCKER: There’s no question in our minds that the Iranian government, and in particular the Quds Force, is — this is a conscious, carefully worked-out policy.

  172. Who was it collecting TX caucus reports? Anyway here is one I saw elsewhere (withholding the poster’s name).

    In Texas we held an election on March 4th which Sen. Clinton won. However, headlines will probably soon come out about how Obama won Texas. [….] Let me describe my experience with the caucus process and you judge whether this is a fair process and whether states which Sen. Obama has won through caucuses might well have had a different outcome if people had been allowed to vote rather than caucus.

    Before this year few in Texas understood what a caucus was, let alone how they should run or how one should participate in them. As a result there were many irregularities in the running of these caucuses. It began with who took initial charge of the proceedings. In Texas, anyone can act as the temporary chair, so many precinct chairs, who would be expected to know how to run the caucus, were pushed aside to let “Obama trained” supporters take over. They controlled the sign-in process which is where the irregularities began.

    My precinct was located with two others in an elementary school cafeteria and combined there were over 650 people in attendance. In this environment, I witnessed that no one confirmed that people in fact had voted in the precinct (required by law) and sign-in sheets were passed around (so you could sign in for your friends and family, evidenced by same hand writing on many of the forms); no ids were required; and, I know for a fact that the man elected to run our caucus proceedings actually signed in with another precinct. How many other duplicate sign-ins there were, I do not know. Later I heard from friends in other precincts that people were denied access to the sign-in sheets, were locked out of buildings and encountered general intimidation.

    The irregularities in this whole process were not limited to what happened that evening but extended to how the Democratic county office handled the results in the days following. There was a total lack of control and accountability of documents. There were no process controls in the office; results came in for weeks (3 days is the law); no one had to sign the packets in; there was no inventorying of packet contents; no control over who had access to the packets; materials were added with no date/time stamp; materials may very well have disappeared.
    Party officials were so excited with the turnout in our Republican controlled county, that they did not want any bad news to get out and had no intention of “making things right.” Further, I was to later learn that most of the board and office workers supported Obama which explains the favorable rulings and bias I have observed over the past several weeks.

    As an elected precinct delegate I was asked if I would serve on the credentials committee for the county convention. Was that an eye opening experience. The heads of the rules committee and credentials committee let everything go…no voter validation of caucus attendees, hap hazard voter validation of the delegates selected for the county convention, precincts were allowed to change delegates right up to the convention even though the law says they must be elected in the caucus on election day, as long as people voted somewhere they were allowed to caucus anywhere, and the good people who were brave enough to submit challenges to point out irregularities and election law violations were summarily dismissed on technicalities… the biggest fraud I’ve ever witnessed.

    The ultimate fix came in at the county convention. A friend who was on the rules committee responsible for tabulating the count of attendees at the convention (which determines how many of which candidate’s delegates go on to state) said they were asked to confirm an attendance count. They were led to believe it was one thing and then found out later it was something different. A whole group of attendees weren’t counted. The result was a 2 to 1 attendance count for Obama, something not born out by visual examination of people’s credentials on the convention floor.

  173. rjk1957 Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Disagree. The superdelegates protect us from system-gamers like Obama. They take a human, commonsense look at the whole picture and choose the BEST candidate, regardless of cheats that pile up empty numbers.

    Get rid of caucuses, devalue delegates from red states, fine. But keep the supers, free to choose.

  174. Just received an e-mail from Howard Dean to donate to the DNC. I let him know all my donations will be going to Hillary. I am ignoring him just like he is ignoring Fl & MI

  175. Clinton, speaking with FOX News Tuesday morning, said she was baffled by (Obama’s) claim.

    “I’m somewhat shocked by that since I don’t see any evidence of it,” Clinton said, chuckling. “This is, you know, kind of hard to square with his failure ever to have a single policy hearing on the only responsibility he was given, chairing the European and NATO subcommittee on the Foreign Relations Committee.
    “And as he admitted in the last debate, he was too busy running for president to pay attention to what we needed to do to improve our chances in Afghanistan and get NATO more involved. So, you know, I, I ,I don’t, I don’t know, I’m speechless. I mean, you know, making an assertion like that belies the facts and the record.”

    Obama is scheduled on Tuesday to chair the subcommittee’s hearing on the nomination of Kurt Volker to be the permanent U.S. representative to NATO. All three presidential candidates are in town for Senate hearings with Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker, the top U.S. military and diplomatic leaders in Iraq.

    According to the report, in his remarks Obama again mentioned his childhood years in Indonesia and family in Kenya, and blasted Clinton’s claim of visiting more than 80 countries.

    “When Senator Clinton brags ‘I’ve met leaders from 80 countries,’ I know what those trips are like. I’ve been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There’s a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then you go.

    Clinton on Tuesday scoffed at the notion that Obama is more in touch with other countries than her.

    “He’s apparently talking about his own experience, which is quite limited,” Clinton said. “You know, for 15 years I’ve been spending a lot of time in other countries,” she said, naming China, Ireland and Kosovo among the places she’s traveled to “where the conversation and discussions were substantive and lengthy.”

    “So I’m not quite sure exactly where Senator Obama has been. So far as I know, he’s maybe taken two trips. But that’s fine, I mean, he can say whatever he wishes about his own experience and we’ll leave it up to voters to determine who really is ready to be commander in chief and who is ready to restore America’s standing and moral authority in the world,” Clinton said.

  176. After watching the clip with Joe and Hillary……man Joe seems to have a serious crush going on. They would actually make a real cute couple. 🙂

  177. 1950democrat

    I agree we need the SD, but this current crop is the pits.

    As I see it there are 3 types of SD

    1) Freshman Senators and Congressmen who do not know what their role as a SD is (I endorsed because candidate “A” my children told me to)

    2) Senior Senators and Congressmen who have forgotten what their role as a SD should be (They seem to think the “will of the people is the most pledged delegates) Time to vote their sorry asses out (Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi and the list is to long to post them all)

    3) Party loyalists who will vote for the good of the party (Who has the best chance of winning in November and they also know that the Will of the People is the popular vote and not who won the most caucuses)

    Thank God group 3 is the largest voting bloc. I trust they will do the right thing and take into account the popular vote, which states were won, not the total states won and which candidate has the best chance of winning the electoral college. Which candidate has the most experience and the best understanding of all the issues.

  178. Oh, they are going after hill again on columbia. Saying Bill is for it. I think he said he’d probably support it to a reporter a while back, but that he doesn’t follow the details of that stuff much anymore. Who cares? He’s not running. Hill is.

  179. Hillary Rodham Clinton to Speak at Allegheny Dems Dinner

    The campaign of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has confirmed that she will be the keynote speaker at this year’s Allegheny County Democratic Committee’s Jefferson/Jackson Dinner.

    “We are both honored and excited that Senator Clinton has accepted our offer to speak at this year’s Jefferson Jackson Dinner,” said Jim Burn, Chairman of the Allegheny County Democratic Committee. “With so much National and International attention focused on this year’s Primary, and with Pennsylvania being a major player in a Presidential Primary for the first time in over 30 years, Senator Clinton’s presence at this Dinner will surely make it a huge success.”

    The Jefferson Jackson Dinner is scheduled to start at 6:30 p.m. on April 10 at Heinz Field in the North Shore. Tickets are $125 for one or $1,000 for a table of 10. The party expects more than 1,000 people to attend, Burn said.

  180. Basil and 1950 Democrat: take my comment at face value. nothing sinister was meant by it. it was a joke.

    1950 democrat: I agree, it was an arrogant thing to do.

  181. basil: I think this the link for the clip that you want. I had marked it as a favorite:

  182. dot48,you got that damn dean that mfr go back to vermont i was lol reading

    That book is called audacity O dope guys..

    basil ..i have looked and looked for that essay i cannot find it so im sure he never put it on the web basil here is his post maybe you have better luck scroll down to lamar

    that monkey thing is ridculous they make monkey’s climbing stiffed animals someone ought to send him one…for babies..the MONKEYS Group hey hey for the monkeys ..Obami he is so iggnorant iddiot.. tells ya he wasnt raised in USA..should not be President either..should have live here are your life..Where is his birth certificate..wonder if he doesn’t have one.

  183. Clinton Rips Media’s ‘Double Standard’
    April 08, 2008 6:47 PM

    ABC News’ Teddy Davis Reports:
    Asked about press accusations that the only way she can win is if she’s “willing to win ugly,” Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., told NPR’s “All Things Considered” on Tuesday that she has faced “something of a double standard” throughout her presidential bid.

    “Senator, I want you to react to something that I keep hearing among voters, and increasingly among people who cover the campaign — both those who are reporters and those who speak about the campaign on television, on radio — the statement that the only way that Hillary Clinton can win is if she’s willing to win ugly,” NPR’s Michele Norris told Clinton.

    “When you hear that,” Norris continued, “what does that mean to you? How do you react to that?”

    “Well, I don’t know what it means because there is no way for Senator Obama to win unless he also obtains a significant number of superdelegates,” said Clinton. “I understand that there has been, throughout this campaign, something of a double standard. I accept it; I live with it.”

    Asked what the double standard is, Clinton at first demurred.

    “Well, I think that it’s pretty obvious to anybody who has followed it,” said Clinton.

    When Norris followed-up again, saying, “Just in case it’s not clear to someone, I don’t want to assume. I just want you to tell me what you think the double standard is because I don’t want to assume,” Clinton unloaded.

    “No, but you know – for example, why is the question directed at me?” she said. “I mean, neither of us has the number of delegates to win. It is a problem for both of us. And Senator Obama’s supporters refuse to support a revote in Michigan, which I thought was rather odd for the Democratic Party to be against another vote. Senator Obama’s supporters wanted to end this contest and short circuit it so that the votes of the people in the next upcoming contest wouldn’t count because he has a slight lead. And it’s by no means definitive. It would have been like calling the championship game last night with two minutes left to go because somebody was ahead. And that’s not how it turned out.”

    Audio of Clinton’s in

  184. God did you see the 7 or 8 girls who kidnapped the one girl and beat the hell out of her. So I’m wondering what she wrote that was so bad.. This is a horrible thing

  185. Ummm…. Good! Karma’s a “B”!

    And then, seemingly out of nowhere, Oprah announced on CNN’s “Larry King Live” on May 1, 2007, that she would officially endorse her longtime friend Barack Obama for the presidency — the first time she had ever thrown her support behind a political candidate. “I think that my value to him, my support of him, is probably worth more than any check,” Oprah told Larry King. At the time, Oprah did not indicate whether she would campaign for Obama.

    Almost instantly, Oprah’s popularity in America plummeted. An August 2007 CBS News poll showed only 61 percent of Americans were favorably disposed to her — a considerable drop of 13 percentage points from a similar survey conducted just seven months prior. An October 2007 Gallup/USA Today poll that showed Oprah with a slightly higher 66 percent favorability still reflected a drop.

    The following month, with Clinton still dominating most national and statewide presidential primary polls, Oprah announced on Nov. 26, 2007, that she would go on the stump for Obama. To woo voters in crucial primaries, Oprah made appearances in Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire in early December 2007.

    Oprah attracted overwhelming attention — and media coverage (mostly positive for Obama) — during her swing through these states. More than 66,000 people reportedly attended the Oprah rallies, and Obama campaign staff members claimed they signed up more than 10,000 supporters at the events and recruited 650 volunteers in New Hampshire alone.

    But by the time Fox News/Opinion Dynamics asked Americans about their attitudes toward Oprah in a survey conducted about 10 days later, Dec. 18-19, Oprah’s favorability ratings had dropped even further — to 55 percent — the lowest level of favorability ever registered for Oprah in opinion surveys. Oprah’s negatives also spiked, with one in three respondents (33 percent) reporting unfavorable impressions of her.

    The results of a March 26, 2008, AOL Television popularity poll of television hosts reveal Americans may now embrace Ellen DeGeneres over Oprah by a wide margin. Forty-six percent of the 1.35 million people who participated in the poll said the daytime talk show host that “made their day” was Ellen, compared with only 19 percent who chose Oprah. Nearly half (47 percent) said they would rather dine with Ellen, compared with 14 percent who preferred Oprah.

    To be sure, Oprah remains one of the most popular figures in America, but recent data suggest her popularity has eroded. One possible explanation for this decline is that her endorsement of Obama and her support for him may have done more to damage impressions of her than to strengthen support for Obama.

  186. Hillary mispoke about the circumstances in Bosnia, and according to all the media she’s a BIG FAT LIAR

    but when BHO writes in Dreams of my Father about

    (reference: susanUnPC No Quarter

    He is 9 years old, living in Indonesia, where he and his mother moved with her new husband, Lolo Soetoro, a few years earlier. One day while visiting his mother, who was working at the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, Obama passed time by looking through several issues of Life magazine. He came across an article that he later would describe as feeling like an “ambush attack.”

    The article included photos of a black man who had destroyed his skin with powerful chemical lighteners that promised to make him white. Instead, the chemicals had peeled off much of his skin, leaving him sad and scarred, Obama recalled.

    “I imagine other black children, then and now, undergoing similar moments of revelation,” Obama wrote of the magazine photos in “Dreams.”

    Yet no such Life issue exists, according to historians at the magazine. No such photos, no such article. When asked about the discrepancy,

    Obama said in a recent interview,

    “It might have been an Ebony or it might have been … who knows what it was?”

    (At the request of the Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled.)



  187. “Clinton Rips Media’s ‘Double Standard’”

    Can anyone point to me where Hillary is “ripping” the media? Seems like pointed answer to an obviously leading question. Who writes these acrimonious headlines?

  188. well the yahoos over at yahoo screw her over in every headline . every poll as well. only better to win big in PA. get your fingers doing the walking…talking…truth telling…the country problems will get worse because he doesn’t know how to even do a press conference without a speech wrote out for him.

    Someday the media will turn on him .. some day. I can’t wait.

  189. this was from a poster at her site in nov when she went to sc..i saved it…
    Oprah lives in gary indiana she drives 3 hours everyday well she doesnt but her driver, in her limo, thru the worst down beatin with trash paper everywhere.homeless ones houses are shattered..she sees it 5 days a she comes down from her go to work to chicago. she doesnt suppport those terrible neighborhoods thru america she goes to africa,women busted there backs for Oprah,and this is what we get in return..ZIPPO!!!

  190. “Who writes these acrimonious headlines?”

    A bunch of devious douchebags. Of course that’s just my opinion 🙂

    But how long must trends be before they become facts?

    Cause it’s a loooooooooong trend.

  191. Hi everyone – it’s been a while since I’ve been on the site – busy getting the FL vote to count – we’ve got over 34K petitions signed in 4 weeks – 6 rallies planned April 26th in Tallahassee, Orlando, Tampa, Ft Lauderdale, The Villages, and Jacksonville -set up new petition groups in Lee, Collier, Sarasota, and Marion counties this weekend – FDR has more than 250 statewide volunteers!

  192. i havent watched her in years ,i didnt care for a bunch of crap like weight loss,then eat chocolate cake on the next days show…so then i thought thats nonesense one day dieting fest the next day eat cake … i liked phil d.

    use ht t p only
    Obama’s Donors Match the List of Resko’s Tainted Donors
    YID With LID
    2008-04-08 23:46:00
    Every Day this Rezko thing gets smellier and smellier. As described in the LA TimesIt’s [the trial] an unfolding, seemingly local political story that’s fascinating in its revealing details about the subterranean world of business, financial and family connections in Illinois and Chicago politics that helped take a virtually unknown black Chicago attorney, nurtured him politically and financially and turned him into…. the polished candidate who today thrills crowds of thousands across the country with his eloquence……..This story concerns two men, neither of whom face any legal

    Re: North Carolina’s superdelegates
    Under the Dome | North Carolina politics blog from The News & Observer in Raleigh, N.C. | newsob
    2008-04-08 18:16:41
    There are entirely too many negatives pertaining to Barack Obama. Please support Senator Clinton so the Democrats can win this election. There are many Clinton supportres will NOT support Obama because of the following: Pastor Wrights unAmerican antiSemetic comments. Obama has continued to support Wright regardless of his hateful remarks. Discrepancies about his upbringing pertaining to his father’s Muslim religion. Obama says he is not a Muslim, but has not told Americans that his father is a Muslim Past relationships with Anton Rezko in Chicago who is now on trial in Chicago. Obama denied

    merryfield does a great job and does a great job at this thing smelling fishy

  194. We need everyone’s help in a letter writing campaign to members of the RBC for the DNC – anyone interested?

  195. by chris he says it all right here
    Obama is doing two things here, reaching out to two very different audiences, on different wavelengths. First, for the hoi polloi, he is simply pandering in the most shameless way imaginable, throwing out talismans for his TV-addled audience to comfort themselves with: “You like JFK? I’ll be like him! You like Reagan? I’ll be like him too! You like the first George Bush? Hey, I’ll be just like him as well!” This is a PR tactic that goes all the way back to St. Paul the spinmeister, who boasted of his ability to massage his message and “become all things to all men.” Obama has long proven himself a master of this particular kind of political whoredom — much like Bill Clinton, in fact, another champion of “bipartisan foreign policy” who for some strange reason got left off Obama’s list of role models.

  196. CJ,

    Whoa. You agree with this?!?!

    “Obama has long proven himself a master of this particular kind of political whoredom — much like Bill Clinton”

    Want to see me go fuckin nuts?

  197. no i dont believe but i do believe he is he states ..but the article favors bami with that statement..thats why i w rote him and said he was crazy…

  198. Now this is Whoredom, from Axelrod;

    When is someone going to give him the scrutiny Penn received?

    What am I saying? Never.

    “In politics, Axelrod’s AKP&D is as partisan as they come. But ASK travels easily across the aisle. Gene Reineke, head of Hill & Knowlton’s Chicago office and former chief of staff for Republican Governor Jim Edgar, says his PR firm shared ComEd as a client and now works with ASK on the Children’s Museum. “Their firm is outstanding,” he says. “I think it’s one of the best in the field, to be honest.”

    Avis LaVelle, a former Daley press secretary who now runs Lavelle-Cousin Issues Management, also teamed with ASK on ComEd’s CORE campaign. She says their consultancies are practicing a new kind of PR, bringing tools and know-how from the world of politics into the corporate and nonprofit realms. “A lot of what is done to shape public opinion in political life,” LaVelle says, “can be applied to public affairs for corporations.”

  199. What’s most telling is from that article, linked from the most excellent RezkoWatch, is the accompanying photo of Axelrod whispering in the ear of none other than…

    Richard Wolfe, MSNBC “analyst” and Newsweek disseminator!

    Long Live the VRWC!

  200. I was wondering why Nelson let Obama go in front of him today, I guess he knew Obama would look stupid. He sat there smiling the whole time Obama went of that rambling questioning of Petraeus and mixed up Iran and Iraq

    Obama received some senatorial courtesy from Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., even though he’s a Clinton backer. Nelson should have gone before Obama in the questioning, but three hours into the hearing he let Obama go ahead so he could avoid a scheduling problem. Obama had two campaign fundraisers to attend.

  201. hi hillfans. just got home from work to check on my hillary news. i gotta get a snack. my wife brought home some tapioca pudding. gotta hit the fridge!

  202. im gonna try to catch a replay of the senate hearing on online. fast forward oddcourse to our girl.

  203. Obama’s foreign affairs claims leave Hillary Clinton ‘speechless’

    On a day when American foreign policy, primarily the Senate hearings on the Iraq war in which all three presidential candidates paraded their views for the cameras, is on the line, Sen. Hillary Clinton says she’s “somewhat shocked” and “speechless” over Sen. Barack Obama’s assertion that he has more expertise in the matter than she.

    As reported here Monday, Obama met with supporters at a Sunday night fundraiser in San Francisco after his Saturday night appearance in Montana.

    The freshman Illinois senator was asked about his thoughts on a potential running mate and provided a classically inarticulate quote that the Clinton camp and possibly John McCain’s vice presidential pick will have some fun with later in the year.

    Obama said: “I would like somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I’m not as expert on. I think a lot of people assume that might be some kind of military thing to make me look more commander in chief like. Ironically, this is an area — foreign policy — is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain.”

    The account of his closed-door fundraising talk, first reported by Huffington Post, made for some spirited public talk Tuesday morning on “FOX and Friends,” when Democrat Clinton, who ventured into the Republican-friendly TV camp, was asked about Obama’s statement.

    “Well I’m somewhat shocked by that since I don’t see any evidence of it,” Clinton said.

    “This is kind of hard to square with his failure to ever have a single policy hearing on the only responsibility he was given, chairing the European and NATO subcommittee (of) the foreign relations committee.”

    “I don’t know. I’m speechless,” she added. “Making an assertion like that belies the facts and the record.”

    –Mark Silva

  204. Well, my answer to Dean on that email about McCain gaffe fundraiser is not fit enough to be published here!

  205. BTW:

    I was working hard in a special election in my district last two weeks. Jackie Speier will be going to washington tomorrow and will be sworn in on Thursday.

    she is a hillary supporter…and I think this victory makes her a super delegate!

  206. carby,
    You read that thing?
    They’re telling you flat out the repub battleplan. BO is weak.
    They’re gonna Gorilla-dust him to death if they get the chance.
    SD’s should see this.

    “It is in this context that we must analyze Obama’s problems with the Rev. Wright and his emerging problems with former terrorist Bill Ayers. The American people are not about to judge Obama guilty by association, even with a lowlife type like Ayers and an anti-American like Wright. But they will see, in Obama’s tentativeness in handling these controversies and his “decency” in refusing to cut off his relationships and condemn these men, a sign of weakness that will hurt his campaign.

    There is in Obama something of the Democratic candidate for president in the 1950s, Adlai Stevenson. Both from Illinois, they share an eloquence that lifts them above normal political figures and a profundity of thought that lies behind it. But each was seen as weak, and Stevenson as indecisive. Obama’s over-intellectualization of issues and of the problems that crop up in his campaign will increasingly harden into a perception of a lack of sufficient strength to deal with America’s problems.”

  207. Sen. Obama, a graduate of Harvard Law School, claims he did not break any laws, that he was only guilty of being “boneheaded.” If I were Sen. Clinton’s campaign manager, every ad would have the video of Sen. Obama saying that over and over.and rev wright in the background yelling GD AMERICA.. He claims his judgment is so good that he knew we should never have gone into Iraq, yet he had no qualms going into the real estate deal with Mr. and Mrs. Rezko. No mention that he has very little experience in politics.

    read this earlier on a blogg…

  208. mp, speier running for speacial election? wich state and district? website for candidate handy?

  209. Hill’s camp -wary of over-hitting on Wright, needs to make judgment synonymous w/Wright.

    That’s what BO thought was his ace in the hole, anytime he was in a tight spot he pointed to Iraq & “judgement”.

    Well, what kind of judgement tells you not to shake hands with your opponent, while she’s right there with her hand out and greeted Teddy Kennedy despite Kennedy having tried to shive her that day!
    As you all know by now, I can go on and on and on.
    So let me stop.

    Hey, where’s the all-knowing SpaceGirl been?
    Haven’t had my loyalty questioned in a while…

  210. mp
    that is great news, but from what I have been reading the past few weeks she will be under a lot of pressure from Pelosi to vote for the pledged delegate leader. pelosi is in her neighboring district I believe. Pelosi will be in for a rude awakening Speier will not take crap off of her or anyone else after surviving that gunshot and left for dead in Guyana

  211. omg, i just read up on speier, she was part of rep ryan’s trip to jonestown in gyana in 1978. she got shot up too. wow.


  213. Speier was supported by Hillary in the special election. Speier’s opponent was supported by Obama. Speier is now a Hillary Superdelegate.

  214. WHOOP! great news admin. for once a speacial election winning superdelegate in hillary’s favor.


  216. Dick Morris is right: John McCain will have an absolute field day over the Bill Ayers scandal (which the press has ignored to date) if Obama were to get the Democratic nomination. Obama might be able to steal this primary election through electoral mischief (i.e., disenfranchising 2 key states and amassing pledged delegates from red-state caucuses), but he wouldn’t come close to beating McCain.

  217. That bit of Speier news was from CNN today so we should take it with a grain of salt. Speier has endorsed Hillary however.

  218. i bookmarked speier’s website and subscribed to her emails. i wished i could of kept up on lantos’s old seat. i would have donated something to her campaign. every bit i can spare have been going to hillary only lately.

  219. rjk1957, those new ads for hillary in pa are great. i hope she has enough dough to keep on saturating the airwaves with those ads. we know the punk has much more money to burn.

  220. guys, for laughs but can somebody tell the punk to put some meat on them bones. im afraid if he is elected he will fall in the cracks in the white house and never found again by the secret

  221. terrondt

    Obama is and has been spending 2.2 million a week in TV ads alone in PA and he is wasting his money. Ads will have no effect until the next week when people really make up their minds and in the other primaries so far this year the undecideds trend towards Hillary in the last few days. Hillary will win the state by a big margin and once again Obama will prove to the SD that he can not deliver a knockout blow even after outspending his opponent by more than a 5 to 1 margin.

  222. Why is it that every time Obama talks he as a grin on his face. He also has a look that I can’t describe but it seems as if he knows that people will buy anything he says and he loves it! He is the bush from the left.

  223. Oh yeah, I forgot, here is a nice story from Hill’s trip to Montana. She is doing well with the tribal leaders, and believe me they do have a little bit of pull there. I think the SDs will take it into consideration, in fact the one SD that revoked her support of Obama said she wanted to talk it over with the tribal leaders before taking a position and they tried to dissuade her from doing that.

  224. winhillary he has this stuck up attitude like he is the cat’s meow. some ladies call him handsome but my wife(not nearly as biased as i am towards him) called him average at best. she can’t get over how purple his lips, the ears, and no meat on him whatsoever. disclaimer my wife is ok with him or hillary. so looks is not a voting issue with the mrs.

  225. Did anyone see the video on cnn about african americans feeling pressure to vote for Obama. It is really the first video that I saw that shocked me tonight, I can’t believe CNN posted this video. If you haven’t seen this please watch. Im really glad CNN posted this.

  226. terrondt,

    Go to and on the front page to the right click videos and go down and it will have links and go to politics. It is the second video in the politics section. Please if you know how find a way to link this so we can show everyone, this is huge.

  227. the one think about me is i can never be pressured into doing something i do not want to do. the sad part is it is very easy for me to resist. i guess there are many in my fellow african-american communtiy that cannot stand up for themselves and sa”NO, I AM SUPPORTING THE BEST CANDIDATE I FEEL CAN LEAD US!” but weal kneed politicos and african-amercans cannot vote what they really want and go ahead and fell “obligated” or what is the in thing to do and suppor obama. this”well my fellow blacks are voting obama so i should” thing.

  228. terrondt,

    Though I am not african american, I can only imagine what if must feel like to be pressured by family and friends, because it is an amazing point in history to have an african american and women running for office. But just like myself many women and men tell me im voting for hillary because im a women. It really is a hard time for us right now. I wish that we could not have this momment that has turned out to be black and white. I wish we had no sight and we just listened.

  229. texan4hillary,

    How did you link that? I tried and I couldn’t do it. Everyone woman. Sorry for the typo, again I’m a really bad speller, I’ll admit!

  230. texan4hillary – that E Edwards piece on ABC – she says she would be happy with a Dream Ticket – Clinton and Obama –

    And then there was that strange Patti Solis Doyle Unity Ticket website…

    What the hell is going on?

  231. winhillary, that video just highlights the problem a lot of black hillary supporters but not me. i explained summer when i first began on this blog to other hillfans no body can play this black guilt trip on me becuase it damn sure will never work on me. i had a few “brothas” tried that shit on me and i told them where to go. i say i am secure with myself and too mentally strong to wilt under the pressure from other blacks.

  232. i think the camp is trying to reassure nervous sds that there will be unity when this is done. too bad so many dont see obama as the devisive one.

  233. sadly, millions of african-americans will and are supporting obama out of guit, pressure and getting a chance to support a black man for the highest office in the land. to me i don’t see it that way. i near fell out of my chair when i heard one of my ex co-workers tried to compare obama to MLK. needless to say this guy’s education or lack off history is a tragedy.

  234. i am lucky to have a black family that respects my choice of hillary. im not lectured or badgered to vote for obama. even though they are 70/30 in obama’s favor. that said if they did badger or try i love them but i would tell them where to go too. but there are many that cannot stand up for themselves. see john lewis as a prime example.

  235. The problem is that we have a man in a position that is a historical momment for america, which is bullshit because there should have never been racial issues in the history of time, but people are animals and they are ignorant. Obama is not qualified and it hurts me to know end because we are judged for standing up for these people and put down for not being there. What a push and pull factor we have here in history. I am so glad though to be here at this time where we have these candidates running. I wonder what men from the 1800’s would be saying right now!

  236. hillfans, i gotta hit the sack. i work wednesday eve then have thursday off. a routine doctor’s visit thursday eve . see ya later .

  237. texan4hillary – yes, I think it’s a super-delegate ploy too – that the SDs get a sense that there’s another way to resolve this without acrimony – through a unity ticket, but also, I think Clinton keeps her options open – if in the next months, more Obama scandals come out and make him unelectable, she can go with someone else like Edwards. keep all options open…

  238. I’m sorry these people meaning woman and african american. I hope that didn’t sound racist. I didn’t mean for that to sound like that. I am being bullied for supporting a woman because I am a women. So my comment above was ment for both.

  239. Obama would not win CA, he has already lost it and Nancy Pelosi is not going to be able to delivered for him.

    Obama is TOASTED!

    Notice I used past tense because he lost CA at Hello.

  240. Hillary has hit her low point in Pennsylvania and will now only Rise. New article is up. Terrondt, get some rest.

  241. I don’t buy that crap, nobody can intiminate you on your choice, your word must mean something or it doesn’t.

    I’m a strong black woman, I don’t break plus my family respect our individuality and it’s our choice…now my husband has his head in sand and don’t want any negativity on his precious Obama but he hears it anyway.

    The good thing about him is that he loves Hillary and will vote for her if she win the nomination. He thinks she will make a great president…He loves all the candidates and think the democrats has fielded strong candidates.

  242. FDRjim,

    Great work in Florida. 😀
    I sent my signed petition on Monday. I think I could help out with the RBC letter campaign. Let me know whatthe plan is. Also, you probably already have this info but I’ve compiled quite a list on the RBC kami-kaze ruling against Florida. Did you know, BTW, that Ralph Dawson, the one who introduced the motion to sanction Florida, is an Obama SD from NY?


    (if you lost my email it’s over at hillbill’s under members or Norma probably has it.),

  243. Watched both hearings and there is no other choice but Hillary as ou commander in chief.Her calm,her knowledge,her presentation,her words,serious demeanor,her respect,familiarity withe seriouness of the subject,were just amazing.

    Onthe other hand Obama gave us a close look at his unfitness for consideration as a valid choice.He was arrogant in his disregard for the time limitations placed on each senator and one that is historicaly respected by all members regardless of seniority or rank.He wandered through his littany of questions,interruptions,pauses,trying to remember what Hillary had said on the subjects.Where is the great orator that his cult members and the Repugs say about him.His tactics expose his lack of experience,arrogance,sincerity,and shameless illusions of grandeur.This music man belongs in vaudville.Al Jolson in reverse.The crock runneth over.
    I hope that you bloggers out there can see yhat I am ANGRY.No one is more resolute,than a 90 year old vet that sees his country on the verge of making a lousy choice for the toughest and most demanding job in the world.Hillary has been subjected to the worst that MSM can devise to destroy her and she is alive and rarin to go on day one.


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