Hillary Clinton’s Battle Cry Of Freedom

Yesterday, our own bcc captured in one single graphic what a thousand words cannot. bcc has captured, the Howard Dean aided, Obama theft scam – the 48 State Strategy. This is the flag we will carry into the “Democratic” National Committee Convention hall.

The Barack Obama/Howard Dean 48 State Losing Strategy

Taylor Marsh is flying the flag today too.

The damage already inflicted by Dean/Obama/Brazile will not be undone by a backroom deal which eventually seats the Florida and Michigan delegates.

The Obama/Dean/Brazile belief that they can force an Obama nomination and then seat the Florida and Michigan delegates thereby reversing the damage to Democrats in Florida and Michigan is delusional.

Every voter in Michigan and Florida will remember that Dean/Obama/Brazile have done everything possible to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan voters. The damage is done.

When Florida and Michigan needed an advocate for their civil rights, Obama voted “NO”.

Obama cannot win Michigan nor Florida in November. At every poll site Florida and Michigan voters will remember in November that Obama/Dean/Brazile will not protect their democratic rights.

Obama cannot be trusted with the civil rights of Michigan and Florida voters. Obama cannot be trusted.

The 44 electoral votes of Michigan and Florida will be decisive in November. John McCain and the Republicans will remind voters of the Obama/Dean/Brazile treachery at every turn. Florida and Michigan voters cannot trust Obama. None of us can trust Obama.

Obama cannot be trusted. Obama started his political career in Chicago by removing other candidates from the ballot. Now Obama/Dean/Brazile want to remove Hillary Clinton from the national ballot. Now Obama/Dean/Brazile want to remove states they cannot wiin from the ballot. Obama/Dean/Brazile want to shut down this election – the many states still left to vote will also remember in November.

Hillary Clinton has always understood Democrats cannot disenfranchise voters, let alone voters from two big swing states. When Michigan was declared a leper by the Democratic National Committee Hillary’s campaign warned that it would be foolish to rebuff an important swing state.

Hillary Clinton will win Florida and Michigan in November. Hillary Clinton is fighting, not just talking, fighting for the civil rights of Michigan and Florida voters – NOW – when those civil rights need defending.

Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday strengthened her pitch to allow the results of disputed primaries in Michigan and Florida to be counted in the nominating contest, noting the vote totals had been officially recognized in each state.

“Some say their votes should be ignored and the popular vote in Michigan and Florida should be discounted. Well, I have a different view,” Clinton said at a rally here. “The popular vote in Florida and Michigan has already been counted. It was determined by election results, it was certified by election officials in each state, it’s been officially tallied by the secretary of state in each state, and the question is whether those 2.3 million Democrats will be honored and their delegates seated by the Democratic party.” [snip]

Both states saw record turnout in their primaries and the former first lady won both contests. [snip]

The best way to block the back room deals by the hurley-burley trio of Obama/Dean/Brazile is for Hillary Clinton to win Pennsylvania. The bigger Hillary wins in Pennsylvania the more the cauldron fires of Obama/Dean/Brazile will be doused.

Sign the petition to in support of Florida and Michigan (LINK).

But the priority is a Pennsylvania victory. Let’s win the Keystone State and Block Obama/Dean/Brazile, as well as Big Media from stealing this election. Make calls.

DONATE for the Pennsylvania victory (LINK).

Help Hillary carry the battle flag of freedom.


373 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton’s Battle Cry Of Freedom

  1. admin…


    we are the fighting democrats.


    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  2. ADMIN,
    You have outdone yourself! Great article and fantastic FLAG!
    Just have to copy this comment from Joe Friday in reference to Deaniac’s appearance this morning on Stephanopolous.
    # Joe Friday Says:
    April 6th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
    “Had to peek at Stephanoupolous before leaving for the morning and Deaniac is on saying the popular vote is NOT what should determine the nomination and the SD’s should select their candidate by the end of June, that Florida and MI will be seated but not as in the normal primary process. He goes on to stress that popular votes AREN’T the criteria by which nominees are selected.”

    Ah, but then Dean proceeded to HANG himself with this statement:

    “This popular vote argument is all very interesting, but that’s not what elects the president”

    Quite true, it’s the electoral college that elects the president. So Dean just accidentally backed into Governor Rendell’s argument, that Hillary has won the states with a lot more ELECTORAL VOTES.

    I’m sure he will backtrack if confronted with his own words, but that’s just further evidence that he’s trying to have it both ways, which will not fly.

  3. texan,

    WOW! I skimmed through the article but can’t bring up the video without installing something. Did you watch it?

  4. Here is the link to the SNL skit from last night:


  5. BTW, we are thinking of writing about Donna Brazile tomorrow. Some of you have emails which clearly prove Brazile’s pro-Obama, anti-Hillary bias. CNN should know about this. If you have some of these emails please send them to us at admin@hillaryis44.org

  6. FINALLY, An SD that’s NOT in the tank and willing to say so.

    Jim Webb on This Week.

    Also, just for laughs, a Maher comment I saw on Riverdaughter after admin linked it.

    ‘And that is what is so great about the internet. It enables pompous blowhards to connect with other pompous blowhards in a vast circle jerk of pomposity.’

  7. ADMIN,

    I have other stuff from a couple of weeks ago. Let me know if you need them and I’ll search and send.

  8. @basil,
    After reading those quotes you pulled from that interview…it hit me….

    It isn’t whether Wright and Farrahkhan are a surrogates of BO but whether Obama is a surrogate of Wright and Farrakhan.

  9. Admin,
    I have some that I will forward…..they are a bit disturbing, I think. Need to know my identity will be kept confidential (work email). Ok?

  10. Texan,
    I downloaded flash and was able to pull up the video but will watch it later. It’s an hour and a half long!
    I emailed you some more quotes and the complete article. And I agree completely; BO is the slurrogate of Wright, Farakhan and god knows who else. Scary, isn’t it? I have to read some more but now i gotta do another newspaper letter, this one’s gonna be about disenfranchisemnt, the outrageously UNDEMOCRATIC democratic party and the rigging of election ’08. Check the link texan4hillary provided above.


  11. Ann, your identity will be confidential.

    basil9, please send them along.

    Why is Donna allowed on CNN but not Carville?

  12. Admin, maybe you can ask her what she thinks of being perceived as being some kind of nefarious puppet-master despite the fact she doesn’t even work for the DNC anymore in any capacity.

    I don’t like her anymore than the rest of you. But I think railroading a mere “talking head” isn’t winning us any points.

  13. All you Hillaryis44 & Taylor Marsh bloggers:

    We need your erudition and expertise to blog on-line comments in local papers in Indiana & North Carolina.

    BLOG where you can make a DIFFERENCE —-everyone here already agrees with you ;-}

    We need at least 40 people—We are currently trying to cover 3 states (PA, IN, and NC)

    HELP US spabeles@patriot.net

  14. Interesting that Penn has stepped down…just beware that the media is going to go nuts talking about how her campaign is falling apart, etc, so this will bring some days of bad press…I am not sure if he was doing more harm than good (he did after all come up with the 3am ad, which I believe won her TX and OH), however.

  15. She already hired another pollster a couple of weeks ago. Ickes is also already involved in the campaign.

  16. right MJ so I think Penn departed at the right time – remember a piece that the two did together (Ickes and Penn) I think Ickes would be good as a strategiest or maybe even Carville 🙂 and the new pollster will do well if not already

  17. Actually Penn i believe has gone to work with Gordon Brown and Labour in the UK, they had a meeting a short time ago and Brown offered him the job of the election campaign, i think thats how it will be spun.

    I saw an article on it today in uk papers.

  18. I just donated 25.44 for tv ads in Pa. and 10.44 for radio ads. She is going to win, I still can’t believe the SD’s would be stupid enough to back a man that can not win, although it seems BR is!

  19. Correct me if I am wrong. Fox has definitely turned negative on Hillary. I think it is an indication that they are sure Obambi is an easy prey. The know they could easily beat him.

  20. I just emailed letters to a dozen indiana newspapers. they sure don’t make it easy to contact them. 🙁

    What do you mean Brazille doesn’t work for the DNC? Wasn’t she on their staff when the Rules and Bylaws Committee made the Florida and Michigan delegate stripping decision or did she resign AFTER that ruling?

    I don’t understand.

  21. Admin

    Carville and Begala were banned from news shows after BO’S campaign complained they were too biased in favor of HRC.

    Strangely enough, BM evidently concluded the same wasn’t true of Brazille. 😈

    or maybe no one at HRC complained?????

  22. let’s start some kind of a movement where we send this link to at least five of our friends or family friends, sort of like ‘pay it forward’ movie


  23. I am on the fence about the Penn departure. This is not necessarily good news, IMO. He did come up with the 3AM ad, and even though he doesn’t do well on camera, he is quite brilliant. We just don’t need press like this right now. I wish f*cking Axelrod would step down.

  24. Let’s not forget Roland Martin he has been in the tank for Obama as much as Brazille has been and he still is on CNN every day. Fair is fair if CNN can ban Carville and Begula for being biased towards Hillary, these 2 win bags (Brazille and Martin) need to go as well.

  25. Per CNN, he will still be “advising the campaign…” He’s just lost his formal title with the campaign. He’s not going anywhere.

  26. Pollster Geoff Garin and Howard Wolfson are now in charge of Hillarys’ campaign (via Time website)

  27. I think that meeting with Columbia was ill-timed and not a demonstration of good judgement. Was he trying to hurt the campaign????

  28. Penn was in charge of spearheading Hillary’s case to the superdelegates (i.e. BO’s failure to win big, diverse states will be treacherous in November if (god forbid) he’s nominated; also the defense that Hillary is strongly attracting swing voters like women, latinos, catholics, etc).

  29. Admin, ALL,

    Here’s a link to a story about Carville and Begala being banned from CNN after complaints from Obama supporters.


  30. Sorry,

    Meant to add this from the Huffington Post on Jan., 24.

    ‘I’ve just learned that CNN has told top Dem strategists James Carville, Paul Begala, and Robert Zimmerman — who are CNN mainstays but are all Hillary supporters — that they will not be doing any more political analysis on the network until the Democratic primary has reached a conclusion.

    I’m also told that this move came after the Obama campaign repeatedly complained to high level officials at CNN about the presence of Carville and Begala on the network.

  31. … CNN caved to outside pressure from a political candidate. CNN could’ve just added a pro-Obama analyst, but Lou Dobbs would probably make a 12-year-old girl cry.


  32. hi hillfans from work. admin great idea on the flag showing only 48 stars. that’s what obama and his robots want. only 48 states counted!!

  33. Keep in mind guys that Begala still makes appearances on CNN as an analyst. On March 4th, he was giddy on the CNN panel re Hillary’s OH and TX wins.

  34. This is good to hear about Garin:

    “In politics, Mr. Garin has a well-earned reputation for helping candidates win in difficult circumstances. In 2001, Mr. Garin’s strategic research helped Mark Warner win the governorship in Virginia, despite the state’s strong Republican leanings. Mr. Garin has directed the polling and created winning campaign strategies for many of the leading Democrats serving in the U.S. Senate, including Dick Durbin, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Russ Feingold, Robert C. Byrd, Jay Rockefeller, Patrick Leahy, Max Baucus, Kent Conrad, and Byron Dorgan. In the 2004 presidential election, Mr. Garin was the polling advisor to General Wesley Clark and was the pollster for the Democratic National Committee’s independent expenditure campaign in the general election.”


  35. This is good news about Garin:

    “In politics, Mr. Garin has a well-earned reputation for helping candidates win in difficult circumstances. In 2001, Mr. Garin’s strategic research helped Mark Warner win the governorship in Virginia, despite the state’s strong Republican leanings. Mr. Garin has directed the polling and created winning campaign strategies for many of the leading Democrats serving in the U.S. Senate, including Dick Durbin, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Russ Feingold, Robert C. Byrd, Jay Rockefeller, Patrick Leahy, Max Baucus, Kent Conrad, and Byron Dorgan. In the 2004 presidential election, Mr. Garin was the polling advisor to General Wesley Clark and was the pollster for the Democratic National Committee’s independent expenditure campaign in the general election.”


  36. terrondt,

    That’s the irony, isn’t it? I’ve known about this since january and have posted it here a couple of times.

    What I wanna know now is someone said Brillo-head no longer works for the DNC but she WASN’T she an employee when the Rules and By-Laws Committee stripped Florida and Michigan of its delegates?? And if she’s no longer an employee, don’t her actions in support of BO constitute illegal lobbying? I mean, isn’t there a statute of limitations or something about when she can advocate for a particular candidate. Anyone have info about this? I don’t get it. When I called DNC last week I was told DB appears as an independent consultant on TV shows and the DNC has no say over that. i also read in one of the DB emails here that she said she has 3 jobs now, none of which are for the DNC. Don’t know where I put that post. Can anyone shed some light on her actual functions as a DNC memebr, or is she no longer on the DNC????????SHE A W

  37. From what I’ve read Penn wasn’t a well like personality on Hillarys staff or with her donors. His resigning may reinvigorate the campaign, particularly with Garin, who I’ve read is very popular in Democratic circles, being able to have input on planning.

  38. Obama cannot be trusted.

    Hear here!

    HRC is going to exceed all expectations in PA. People KNOW what he did to FL and MI, and there is no way that they’re going to let him cheat the Pennsylvanians too. Prepare for a landside victory!

  39. basil9,

    Obama complained to CNN about Carville? Carville’s been contributing for years!! If Obama doesn’t want to listen to him, he can just change the channel. They shouldn’t be silencing some of the strong supporters of HRC just because they understand (and talk LOUDLY about) how bad BO would be for the country.

  40. texan4hill,

    Well, I just watched the first 15 minutes of the 8/25/07 Rules and By-laws meeting and there’s no way i can do the whole thing in one sitting!!!!!!!

    So far, Roosevelt has said that Iowa and NH were selected for the open-primary window and then, in ‘order to add diversity and enfranchise AA’s in SC and Latinos in Nevada, those 2 states were also allowed to have early primaries.

    what he hasn’t said is WHEN, WHY and HOW SC and Nev were chosen over the other 13 states that applied. Since when is FLORIDA not ethnically diverse???????? This stinks of manipulation. Karen Thurman just started s her appeal and I’ll pick up with that tomorrow. This is a TOTAL crock!

  41. neetabug,
    Can’t stand Martin and he’s getting on Dobbs last nerve, too. The other night, when Martin got into a shouting match with one of the other guests Lou intervened and when MArtin said something under his breath Dobbs looked at him in astonishment and asked, “Did you just sa, What Ever?”


    Oh that Roland is a real class act.

  42. Watched Dodd expounding his love and confidence for OBama,as the one person that can cure all of world,s problem and be great president,What a crock.He who had a 1 percent approval rating in CT. where they can.t stand him along with ach der Lieberman.These men of poor character and their fear of being thrown off the cradle to grave gravy train is pathetic.They have no shame,no respect and no right to be returned to their seats,come the next election.The list of these greedy,sleezy ole boys will go on with the assault on our Hillary.Ladies do not let this happen.She must shatter the glass ceiling and we must fight for her and contribute to her campaign.Give her the oppertunity to sweep them and BHO out with the Bush trash.


  43. Penn Is Out As Clinton’s Chief Strategist
    UPDATE — 8:30 p.m.

    While the news of chief political strategist Mark J. Penn’s abrupt departure from Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign this evening took many in the Democratic political world by surprise, talk soon turned to how the move would impact the overall message of the campaign. One Democratic consultant, granted anonymity to speak candidly, predicted “a less combative campaign and more focused on her strengths.”

    Penn was a major influence in Clinton’s decision to focus on her toughness and readiness to be commander in chief during the campaign. He was one of the guiding forces behind the now-infamous “3 am” telephone ringing at the White House ad that sought to raise questions about Sen. Barack Obama’s (Ill.) ability to lead the country in the event of a national security crisis. That ad ran in the lead-up to Ohio’s March 4 primary, which Clinton won by double-digits.

    As recently as last week, Penn continued to push that line of attack on a campaign conference call with reporters. “Part of the vetting process is who is ready to be commander in chief,” he said, before adding: “We believe Senator Clinton is the most ready to be commander in chief.”

    During that same conference call last week, Penn argued that the race was far from over and that any number of twists and turns were possible before voting ended on June 3. He offered a quote (“Anything can happen in the last several months of an election campaign”) that seems eerily predictive of his own future in the campaign in retrospect.

    The shakeup was announced this evening in a statement issued by campaign manager Maggie Williams.

    “After the events of the last few days, Mark Penn has asked to give up his role as Chief Strategist of the Clinton Campaign,” Williams said. “Mark, and Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates, Inc. will continue to provide polling and advice to the campaign.” Sources close to Clinton insist Penn stepped aside and was not forced to relinquish his position.

    The events Williams is referring to is a meeting between Penn and the Colombian government as he sought to help them negotiate a bilateral free trade agreement between themselves and the United States. Clinton is on the record in opposition to the plan, and, Penn was forced to issue a quick apology once the news of his meeting was reported. Several labor unions called for Penn to be fired from the campaign, however, and it appears as though Clinton took the moment to rearrange her political operation.

    Stepping into the void left by Penn are Geoff Garin, a pollster and partner in Garin-Hart-Yang Research, as well as communications director Howard Wolfson — a longtime Clinton loyalist who has been intimately involved in each of the New York Senator’s campaigns.

    Reached tonight, Garin offered no specific thought on Penn’s decision to step aide. “The more I’ve been around Senator Clinton, the more I admire the strength of her character and her commitment to doing what’s right for people, so I’m happy to have the chance to help her if I can,” said Garin.

    The removal of Penn from his coveted slot atop the Clinton political team marks the end of a tempestuous tenure for the pollster. Penn’s relationship with the Clintons goes back to former President Clinton’s 1996 reelection race. Penn also served as the political strategist for Hillary Clinton’s first run for Senate in 2000 and played the same role in 2006 as the New York Senator prepared to run for president.

    Penn enjoyed the Clintons’ trust and loyalty as evidenced by the fact that he remained in the catbird’s seat even as the presidential campaign saw its original plan dashed by the candidacy of Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.). Penn occasionally clashed with other members of Clinton’s inner circle but the candidate always seemed unwilling to lessen his role within her orbit. (For more on Penn, make sure to read the piece penned by the Post’s Anne Kornblut.)

    Penn’s demotion is the latest in a series of moves made by Clinton as she seeks to convince voters and superdelegates that she remains in contention for the Democratic nomination. Campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle and deputy campaign manager Mike Henry left the staff earlier this year.

    Stories of staff shuffles rarely penetrate the average voter’s consciousness but Penn’s decision may be an exception as he was an extremely high profile member of Clinton’s team. We’ll be monitoring that fallout as it develops. Stay tuned.

    By Chris Cillizza | April


  44. Admin, I know that SpacegirlArt also had several email interactions with Brazille. You might want to email Artiste for more info too.

  45. Admin-you have probably already spotted this TL item; please see last sentence…

    WBBoei-is David McDonald a buddy of yours?

    Tiny Dancer-do you know this lawyer, David McDonald?

    There is so much on that August 2007 DNC tape at TalkLeft. It is appalling. I can’t even watch it all in one bite.

    Highlights are in the comments: Donna “rules, rules, rules”

    Axlegrease’s former roommate? partner? (can’t remember which) named Dawson providing a fatal blow to Fl delegation.

    Tears in Thurman’s eyes as she realizes there is nothing that will satisfy.

    A guy who prophsizes “this will lose the election for us next year…

    A guy named David McDonald from Seattle who might relent on the 100% stripping of delegates only if PROOF can be presented that EVERY single Dem official lobbied or pressured or pushed FL legislative members (2/3 Repubs) to move back the primary date…

    It is totally disgusting, but I rec it highly…

    At TL, they are talking abt how to get the video to the HRC camp and/or get it more widely distributed.

  46. AMB90

    I am so with you too, but am on SocSec like you (though I am fairly new to the system, so am on the new delivery timetable…no first of month for me…I have to wait til 3rd Wed, not so bad now, but when it’s around the 20th or so, it can be tough.

    Most times more month than benefits, if you know what I mean. Like you though, try to eek out some for our girl every couple weeks.

    Want you to know, I, for one, read your posts…I’m quite fond of WWII vets.

  47. Emjay,

    Sounds like you sat through the whole thing. Congrats. i got through 15 minutes and now I’m ready for bed but will resume tomorrow.

    Wish someone had video editing skills so they could pull out the most important exchanges.

    Night all.

  48. Birdgal,

    I’m afraid I don’t have the technology needed for the task…Heck, I can’t go to you tube and pull anything up…and one time I frustrated the heck out of a pink=pager because I only know how to use search engines like google, yahoo and wiki, etc., not a browser.

  49. Linfar

    Did you see my thank you note to you a couple nights ago? If no,
    I want to hunt it down and repost for you.

  50. I just asked a pal to put together a video for us of that DNC video… Will update when I have word.

  51. everyone!!!

    The NEW BLACK PANTHER is back up on Obama’s website!


    Quite a slap in the face if Obama won’t ‘denounce and reject’ their support, especially after his “race speech”. He must be laughing at how stupid so many ‘docile, non-offensive’ liberals are afraid to look racist by questioning his racism…

    Sad and Scary

  52. more stuff about Rezko: article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTllMGI1MWJiODc1MzZkODBmNzhkMmQ2MzkyOWM2N2U=

  53. Ann…. great articles! thanks for sharing! I particularly liked the first one…. more reasons why the SD’s should vote for Hill.

  54. pa, a little over 2 weeks away. man i cannot wait. worry it is getting a little tight there in the polls.

  55. hillfans, 3 blogs i love, here, taylor marsh(just starting to regulary post there)and hillaryclinton.com blog. but i wish they would update the threads better on hillary’s offical site blog. still a little too slow.

  56. i gotta be careful. i am on my job’s computer. i thought i would sneek a few comments here and there while in the office.

  57. I don’t think Hillary’s camp hires the best people. For instance, there’s this field director, Mike Trujillo, who I just found out is now the Field Director in NC.

    He was the FD in CA and in TX — two states Hillary ought to have won by significant margins, but didn’t. Each state showed Hillary leading by significant double-digit margins in weeks before their respective primaries; and then she ends up winning by single digits. The common denominator is Trujillo and Ace Smith. I’m familiar with them from both states.

    Let’s put aside, Ace Smith and talk about Trujillo… he seems very inexperienced IMHO. Very unappreciative of volunteers. Hardly acknowledges them.

    His style is not aggressive at all. It’s not about going out and wooing voters (like BO camp does); it’s all phonebanking. Phone banking, phone banking, phone banking. The team he assembles are usually too young to take up important tasks. I don’t get why Trujillo is moved from state to state.

  58. Terrondt

    Please, do not put yourself at risk…you are still new there, and besides, organizations have tracking bots; I know, because I got one for a large org for which I had responsibility.

    Almost all do it now. Careful, we are worth it, but will wait for you to get home, for you are more “worth it.”

  59. Just to add… the TX Caucus was a disaster for us b/c the 2 people – Ace Smith and Mike Trujillo — aren’t the GOTV type. They don’t hone their strategy to go door-to-door. It’s really all about phone banking and not getting out and talking to people. That’s just their style.

    There was no strategy to get out there and reach the Caucus goers.

  60. We have got to do more about FL and MI.. But what?

    From BTD on Talkleft (he has the CSPAN video of the DNC hearing with FL Dem party — heart wrenching to see these idiots in the party throwing away a golden opportunity to win in GE).. Anyway from a poster on BTD’s blog:

    Hillary Clinton and her team are repeating the mistakes of Al Gore in Florida and the 2000 election in this primary.

    In 2000, Al Gore let a lot of injustice go by, because he didn’t want to divide his country. He put his country first, or so he thought. He was gracious, but he didn’t see the utter disaster that followed.

    Hillary Clinton, her team, the democrats in Florida especially (and to a lesser extent those of Michigan) have tried again and again to be gracious in the face of bullying by DNC and the Obama team. Hillary is thinking that she is putting her country and her party first. Like Al Gore, she doesn’t understand that the country itself and its democratic principles that is, the soul of the country itself, are at stake.

    Why don’t the Florida democrats make a huge stink, complete with demonstrations and purple fingers, about their right to vote?

    The behavior of DNC, Brazile, Dean, and everyone else has been truely reprehensible.

    Last thing: Next time, when an idiot says that Hillary is dividing the party by staying, ask them to not be such wimps. I am not an American. However, I know that, not the First World War, nor the Second World War, nor the unrest of the 60’s stopped the American elections from going forward.

    So Pat Leahy, apologize to your fellow Americans and please stop being such a wimp. It’s disgraceful.

  61. I’m just glad Smith-Trujillo aren’t in PA to mess it up. We need a double-digit win. Eeking out a win in states you ought to have won by significant margins is not success IMHO.

    Where the hell is everyone?

  62. Terrondt

    If you get off and stay off, I will meet up w/ you here when you get home and give you one, maybe two more great places to visit.

  63. hey all, I think Penn’s departure will be a good thing for Hillary 🙂 Afterall he will continue to ‘advise’ the campaign so its not like a a distraction like the wright matter

  64. tched Hannity do the Obama voting record and his his 130 “present”votes to avoid taking a stand on any legislation that would expose his fence straddling for his political future.Also his “Sorry hit the the wrong button scheme to avoid being on the record.”He is a sad sack of you know what,in old Army lingo” Speaking of Army,Has anyone looked into his record.Might have used the old “FLAT FEET “excuse.All of this took place while he was an IL state senator on loan to REZKO.I cannot believe that a glib tongued teleprompter challanged person that introduced the RACE CARD to this campaign,to avoid being vetted,is so close to being in line for the toughest job in the world.What a tragic time in our history.Two of them in a row??? God Help This Great Nation…Hillary It HAS TO BE YOU !!!!!!


  65. we still have:

    $13,567 left for the 111,000 yard signs Hillary wants to put up all over PA

    $434,359 left for the radio airtime

    $72,592 left for the online ads

    $2,223,597 for the TV ads

    WE ALL KNOW OBAMA IS OUTSPENDING US BUT I GET THIS FEELING IF HILLARY WINS BIG IN PA OBama will start losing the money advantage because he’s been outspending us but losing to us in the critical states

  66. i seen that emjay lying cheaters thats what they do is cheating ……i wrote greta and told her to take it down,I also ask her to look at his website,witht eh new black panther on it..she will..and so will everyone else on her bloggs..
    you guys might wanna write her also,i told her it wasn’t hillary voters who done that,it was OBots
    they lie and cheat alott…i told her also to keep the rev. wright stuff coming there is alott of voters even repubs who want to know more,and his rezko dealings..
    Just like there canidiate BIG F LIAR!!!

  67. Clinton camp needs all hands on deck starting now for big wins in PA and NC – coupled with money bombs AND Obama revelations forced onto prime time by any brave journalist ready to take on mainstream media – are ya listenin’ Sean, Juan, Lou, Pat, Rush? BTW -Of course, BHO is the surrogate for Nation of Islam (employees many members), New Black Panther Party, and Rezko to Middle-Eastern ties/$. He poses as a visionary leader for the party, and is packaged as fresh, innocent, transcendent, blah, blah, blah. The plot reads like a Sidney Sheldon – replete with phoniness, thugs, threats, traitors, corrupt politicians, dirty favors and dirty money. Even a middle schooler could predict the storyline about BHO’s mysterious windfall funding and the payoffs for crooked inside party dems. It’s up to us – the still rational, patriotic Democrats to re-write the final chapters of the book, reversing the dangerous path this party and country are travelling.

  68. trujillo is a mixed bag. he helped hillary big time in ca-pulled off a huge effort in la which helped hillary carry the state. ace smith is one of the best-but ith such short notice im not sure what he can do. whatever they did in ohio replicate. tx was hard for me. hillary has some folks who frankly are dismissive fo volunteers and would call me 20 times a day. why? i had for a yr built an infastruture of volunteers etc here. they needed me to use my email list. wihtout htat things would have been worse. hillary is the smartest in the campaign-which often isnt the case in most! the campaign would not hire us grassroots folks i think bc of financial reasons-yet the way the office was run was sad! yall know ive worked like a dog so that hillary could be a sucess in tx. instead of coure deals were cut where other guys, some who were associated with obama’s campaign-yes u heard that right-to work in their office here. it was demoralizing. it was like a playground there. paid folks lounging round while we grassroots folks worked like dogs-to the point of collpse to save hillary here. bc of the 3am ad and hillary’s great close we stopped the blleeding-and trujillo did help turnout out amssive valley and rural vote. i iwhs more local grassroots folks would be hired by this campaign guys. it makes it hard when u lose a week waiting around a s astaff comes in from ca and mo to run things. the rest i wont type here but have decided to resubmit my complaint to the campaign. u do to filbert. hilary has many talented staffers i can assure u. but to me its about the grassroots and u must hire those grassroots folks who the community knows. obama hires grassroots. pa may be different bc the guv and much of the machine backs hillary. that is a huge difference. huge. the guv knows where votes are and liekly dictates ho is doing what. he has folks on the campaign now i bet. in ohio hillayr had the guv with her also and they pulled off a great win. also on tx-the caucuses im not sure we can blame the campaign on that. hy? aucuses disenfranchised hillary’s base period. obama’s folks were outright abusive verbally and physically. many assualts were reported, cops came to some locations in town. it was horrible. and the media and our party remains silent. its time to end that.

  69. cj

    I read somewhere some weeks ago that one of the BO campaign priorities on directive from Axlegrease, was to “control the internet.”

  70. Hi, I live in Cleveland, OH i volunteered at the campaign headquarters in University Hts. All we did was phone banking, phone banking, phone banking. We had people standing on corners with Large Hillary signs holding them up. They had a group of people from out of state canvasing/ During the debate we were standing on corners cheering and holding up CLinton signs We worked our tails off. As you know Cleveland is COLD in March.

    We would get calls when something special was going on. They wouldl call to make sure you were available on whatever day you sign up to volunteer.

    Our primary they changed it from May to March.

    I will be going to PA on April 18th

  71. neetabug I wish I could join you I would do whatever it takes to help Hillary! I’m way down here in Florida.

    Keep me posted, and goodnight my friends, my Hill-team

  72. very good post, T4Hillary. I have to disagree with Trujillo and LA. Hispanics love, love Hillary. I saw the same enthusiasm in Nevada. Hispanic casino voters would proudly walk into the caucu rooms wearing Hillary buttons and carrying signs. That’s not the work of Smith or Trujillo — that’s just deep love from the Latino community.

    There was no doubt she was going to carry Latino votes in LA. In other parts of LA that we should have won, we didn’t. We didn’t do well in other demos. CA was saved by the Latino vote.

    That’s the thing about Ace Smith — he gets at voters who we know support Hillary. His job is to get them out to cast that vote. Smith and Trujillo are NOT good at getting potential voters. Thus the phone banking strategy.

    Another thing you said, T4Hillary, that caught my attention is this the dismissiveness of volunteers. Very, very true. Trujillo hardly acknowledges volunteers when he goes in and out of the office. He prefers to stick with the staff (however young they are).

    The other problem is the under-utilization of qualified “professional” volunteers. These folks just went to waste doing menial things when they (and I) were willing to go the mile for Hillary.

    As I understand it, BO camp gives volunteers greater responsiblities and levity.

  73. emjay

    I read somewhere some weeks ago that one of the BO campaign priorities on directive from Axlegrease, was to “control the internet.”
    I heard that too..maybe ill write her again i forgot about it..

  74. Don’t know where this little gem was in the wee hours the other night, but Axlegease’s OTHER company, the astroturf one, is evidently in charge of the PR campaign in CHicago to smooth over the TUCC and Wright problems…hence, the flooding of the radio (even NPR!) and TV broadcasts with high level theological names to “teach” and explain Black Theology/History/writings/personages, etc.

  75. They had a group of people from out of state canvasing/

    Why would you send OOS volunteers canvassing when that should be the job of in-staters? Canvassing involves talking to people about local issues and relating to that potential one-on-one.

    I think they send OOS canvassing to help make them feel they are “out there” and doings. But that’s not a good strategy. If I’m from rural TX, I want the person who is ringing my doorbell to talk like me and think like me — not someone with a Yankee accent from NY.

  76. mj, dear, you’re from MA. Culturally and demographically, you’re not all that different from NH. Both New Englanders.

  77. I’m not saying Hillary’s camp is the only one doing it. I just don’t think it’s a good strategy. By phone, sure. But one-on-one, door-to-door — I want the best people out there who understands the local issues and local concerns. People have lots of questions and some feel much more comfortable talking to live people who know what they’re talking about.

    Mormons never come to my door. They think I’m a space alien and I think they’re a bunch of weirdos. Suffice it to say, we don’t have much in common.

  78. yep. i agree filbert. the big problem in tx was also this-hillary had great endorsees-benstsen and others. richards daughter was another. they werent used at all. i begged them to use these guys but it was exhuastive. if tx had a current staewide elcted like a guv that baked hillary i think she would have pulled a larger victory. having a guv in the state u need is invaluebale. in ohio i hear it was run very well-and that was obvious on election night. those same folks are now running IN. in IN evean bayh has of course deep roots and is a frmr guv. his father was a famous senator fromt he state. hopefully bayh has tapped those he knows who can do it there in IN. Bayh and Rnedell know they must ensure Hillary great victories or else. lets hope they do not make the same mistake and not tap local grassroots etc..u cannot waltz into a state and expect it to just flow. tap those u got on the ground-natives and give them the run of things. this is critical and i will again express this to the campaign. perhaps this new dude there will be receptive.

  79. Yes we had some from NY, they did a better job. They were much better than the ones here in Cleveland. The places they sent them to i would not have gone. They came back with good results. I asked one was he scared. He said no he was from the Bronz. He said a group of AA came along in a car and yelled Obama. They went to the car and started talking to them, some were surprised at what they had to say. I think they changed some of their thinking. We don’t have a problem with someone who has a different accent. There are all types here.

  80. I have an anecdote that relates to what I’m talking about. There’s some race comments and I hope you’ll bear with me.

    A guy from rural TX calls into the Austin HQ. He says he’s worried about “the blacks.” He says there “ain’t a lot of white people here” and he’s afraid if he goes to caucus, he might get beat up. He asked me whether there will be police there.

    Now, I’m from very liberal CA and we just don’t think or talk like that. I can’t relate to his situation. I’m trying to remember episodes from Dukes of Hazard.

    So this Californian tells him, “Sir, it’s a Precinct Convention. I’m sure people will conduct themselves well.” He repeats again, “There’s a lot of blacks in my area.”

    Anyways… it’s important to talk to people in the local language and relate to what they’re saying.

    I saw the caller as a racist and it was difficult for me to continue the conversation.

  81. There is going to be a big grassroots protest on April 11 in NYC in front of Radio City about the media bias. I found out about it on Taylor Marsh. If I lived in the general area I would go. Check it out. Go if you can!

  82. The April 11 protest i mentioned (11:40 p.m.) above is being organized through Hillaryclintonforum.com.

  83. neetabug, you know we lost Austin badly. Significant margin. In Austin, there are pockets of Latino communities. I went canvassing in some of the poorest Latino neighborhood I’ve ever seen in my life. All the stereotypes you can think of: high fences, pitbulls, dogs barking as soon as a stranger came by; shanties; the air reeking of garbage (it was trash day)…

    We did’t do a good job reaching out to the Latino voters in Austin. That’s just a sad fact. BO got all the the UT kids out and they came out.

    Anyways… so they send this white guy out to these neighborhoods. Many in this neighborhood didn’t speak English. We sent out flyers announcing small events just for Latinos voters ON THE SAME DAY or the day before the event.

    I’m glad Hillary took TX — and I knew she’d win — but I knew it wasn’t going to be by significant margins.

    That’s the work of Mike Trujillo.

  84. And Houston… why would Hillary lose Houston? It has a large Asian, Latino, and gay voting block.

    TX was fucked up. I was angry b/c in the weeks before, polls were showing Hillary up by double-digits.

  85. Ok, filbert. We get it. Houston also has a large AA population, and a large wealthy population. She was up in the polls but Obama had a huge string of victories and the media played Hillary for dead. She’s did the best she could.

  86. From John Corzine,

    There have been some who have tried to read my comments last week on CNBC’s SquawkBox as stepping back from my support of Senator Clinton. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    I personally know, respect and like both Democratic candidates. Both are qualified. Both will be an agent of change from years of profligate spending on a misguided war. Both will address the discontent that results from long unmet needs and the mismanagement of our nation’s economic affairs.

    That said, I truly believe Senator Clinton is the most qualified and prepared to be our next president. I unequivocally support her candidacy.

    My point on SquawkBox was and remains that superdelegates should consider a number of factors in their final decision, particularly after the primaries and caucuses have run their course.

    Clearly, the cumulative delegate totals must be considered. Absolutely, the cumulative popular vote is important. And, a practical analysis of electability and the electoral map must be weighed.

    For me, the most important of those factors is the popular vote since Democrats have rightfully and passionately long argued that every vote should be counted. Practically, that popular vote should include participation of the fourth and eighth largest states in the nation. Most Democrats agree that ignoring the voices of Florida and Michigan is a mistake and threatens to impact the outcome of the fall elections.

    Like many, I fear that not considering the wishes of millions of Democratic voters in those states will taint the attitude of voters everywhere about our ultimate nominee. Early polling in Florida has already indicated as much.

    Without a “do over” for those states, the short-term gain could well come with long-term pain for our nominee, the party and the nation.

    The party should be responsible and raise funds for a primary “do-over” in a way that doesn’t give the competitive edge to one candidate over the other.

    I believe, as I think most Democrats do, that the popular vote is the most democratic way to select a candidate. In fact, I recently signed legislation in New Jersey that joins the state in a compact to choose a president by direct popular vote.

    When we listen to all of the people in our party, we end up choosing the person the entire party can support.

  87. mj, you think I”m criticizing Hillary don’t you? I’m not. I’m criticizing Mike Trujillo and Ace Smith. You can ignore my posts if you want. If you don’t learn from your mistakes, you’ll repeat it.

    T4Hillary… I couldn’t have put it better. Hillary had lots of love from the people who knew or remembered the legacy of Ann Richards. They weren’t utilized at all. They appeared in an ad in Ann’s memory.

  88. The team here was on the ball. Stephanie Tubbs also made a difference. There was a guy here from NC he was saying how awful it was in NC. Complete opposite of what the news stated

  89. Filbert, I think things like her being outspent 4 to 1, and having the entire media basically declaring her dead were more significant. Bandwagoning has a serious effect. She won nearly every county in TX. Yes, these people maybe are not the greatest, but I think there were other factors that played a more significant role. For example, she did pull far more latinos out, and latinos have very low level of participation. She actually did a better job getting latinos out by far than BO african americans.

  90. BTW mj, a woman I know who worked in Houston said that over 70% of the people at her Houston office was AA.

  91. mj, if you were in TX, you’d know that the Latinos were going to vote for Hillary — just like they came out in NV. It had nothing to do with Trujillo. Trujillo wasn’t in NV.

    Latinos in TX are much more civic minded than in CA. As one lady at the Austin office told me, Latinos and AA are competing for the same sort of jobs and they didn’t feel that an AA president would represent their needs. They came out to vote out of necessity and out of sense of civic duty.

    I would agree with you about the media and being outspent. It played a significant role in this race.

    However, what I’m talking about are specific strategies that needs some correction.

  92. U guys see this one? I like it.
    In his face all the way, on everything. You Go Girl…

    Sen. Hillary Clinton made a blunt appeal to North Dakota delegates to switch their support to her, despite the fact that Sen. Barack Obama handily defeated her in the state’s caucus in February.

    In an indication of how tense the battle has become for each Democratic delegate, Obama abandoned the campaign trail in Pennsylvania and scooted to North Dakota for the state party’s annual dinner last night, despite the fact that he’s already won 14 of the state’s 21 delegates as well as six of the state’s seven superdelegates.

    The two candidates also will battle for votes tonight in Butte, Mont., when Democrats there hold their annual dinner. The Montana primary, which offers only a handful of delegates, is scheduled for June.

    Clinton made it clear to North Dakota Democrats last night that she believes there is no such thing as a pledged delegate and highlighted that stubborn streak in her appeal for delegates to switch from Obama to her when the Democratic national party holds its nominating convention this August.

    “I am here tonight because I am seeking your support,” Clinton said, adding that she never gives up.

    “I know what it’s like to stumble. I know what it means to get knocked down. But I’ve never stayed down. I never will and neither will America if we get ready to win this election in November,” she said.

    Clinton appealed to hockey fans in the crowd with a reference to the upcoming college hockey championship series, the Frozen Four.

    “Can you imagine if the Fighting Sioux [University of North Dakota hockey team] had played the Gophers [University of Minnesota hockey team] for a tie on Sunday and then given up? Well they kept fighting and that’s why they are going to the Frozen Four in Denver next week.”

    Obama kept up the hockey theme after accepting a University of North Dakota hockey stick from backer Sen. Byron Dorgan. Obama joked, “It will have a place of honor in my office, but I promise you I will not wield it because my hockey game is worse than my bowling.”

    Last week Obama bowled with potential voters, notable for the number of gutter balls he threw.

    Obama did not appear to be upset by his rival’s persistent push for delegates he seemingly had already won.

    “No matter how long or heated this primary contest gets, I believe that either Sen. Clinton or I would do a far better job of leading this country over the next four years than John McCain. That is something that we can all agree to,” Obama said and offered up his feelings for the unity of the Democratic party after the extended primary. “So I don’t worry abut the fact that this contest has gone on a long time. We’re doing fine.”

    He was more critical of Republican candidate John McCain, saying he’s offering “four more years of the very same policies that failed us for the last eight.”

    He said McCain offers a “can’t-do, won’t-do, won’t-even-try style of politics.”

    Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures

  93. filbertsf

    As a political organizer for over 15 years I think your summation of Trujillo relies on a limited view of what a campaign has to do to reach voters.

    I personally do not put the weight of a campaign on it’s grassroots director. There are many exterior forces that come into play.

    One area you fail to note is the role that unions play in grassroots elections. SEIU is probably the strongest and largest union in California, more specifically the in the LA and Bay area. Trujillo had an uphill battle. The same for Texas and most notably in the Houston, Austin, and Dallas areas. Union ground forces alone are sought after by many. Obama’s campaign had SEIU locked up.

    While I personally work hard to reward volunteers, the job is immensely stressful and one must consider the pressure put on the managers of these feats. And yes volunteers work their hearts out and need civility but need direction and if the top down direction is phone banking that is what the field director has to do, regardless what those of us believe otherwise.

    As far as OOS volunteers, basic training helps to acclimate them to each area, I wouldn’t sell them short for doing a great job anywhere.

  94. I put the 48 state flag on my MySpace page. Not that I get a lot of traffic, but you never know who might see it.
    If you click on my name, it should take you right there. (I will also be happy to add y’all as my friends if you are on MySpace.)

  95. Off-topic but: I have been looking at the Wayback Machine tonight and found a quote by Louis Farrakhan that makes me wonder if people like Wright, Meeks, and Pfleger make statements similar to Nation of Islam teachings in their churches. Wonder why Obama wants to meet face to face with anti-American dictators like Ahamadinejad? Check out this quote from 1997 by Farrakhan on how he thought the US should deal with Saddam Hussain:

    “On Sunday morning, Nov. 30, the Muslim leader was questioned on Fox television’s Tony Snow Show. Min. Farrakhan said he hopes President Clinton and his advisers will see the failure of policies toward President Saddam Hussein and immediately end the sanctions on Iraq.

    “Let’s sit down and talk to Saddam Hussein, leader-to-leader, human being to human being. And I do believe he wants a better relationship with America, and I hope when I go to Iraq that I will be able to report to the American people that here is a man that is ready to sit down talk with the American administration and come to terms with the disagreements with America,” he said.”

  96. Wow, ABC is reporting that Condeleeza Rice is actively seeking the VP nod. Perhaps trying to capitalize on us Hillary Dems that will defect if Obama is the nominee? Interesting……this might actually help Hillary if Rice is picked…..


  97. Condi for VP has been in the works for years.

    They figure they can cut into both the women’s & AA vote.

    Will just have to remind everyone it’s CONDI RICE!

  98. Blue Dem…I think people are serious about voting McCain if Obama is the nominee. I know I am…it would be a protest vote against the DNC. It think that if Rice were VP it would add another element to the race and might indeed pull more black/women votes for McCain IMO……

  99. I haven’t weighed in on this, and won’t say much other than people CANNOT seriously consider voting for John McCain, because he is not a serious nominee.

    He’s a joke. A living breathing sign of how intellectually (and morally) bankrupted the republican party is.

    He is not presidential timber, IMO, in any way shape or form.
    And then there are the nearly unique challenges the next POTUS will face, and McCain not being equipped to handle any of them.

    That said, Obama – and the thought of his sleazy backers gaining power – is out of the fucking question.

    It’s Hill – or die trying.

  100. blue dem, mccain is a joke but obama is a bigger clown. that said can i really fil in a oval next to a anti-choice, 100 year war mongering, conservative repuke? policy wise mccain is far to the right of me, but if i vote my heart and NOT my politics it would be mccain if not hillary hands down. i don’t know what to do if hillary is not on the ballot in november.

  101. if hillary does not make it im sure many hillfans will slap mccain stickers on thier cars before obama finishes his acceptence speech in denver. it is a personal choice that i will not judge. for me it my take me right up to the last minute in the voting booth to decide. 20 years of democratic voting will boil down to the last minute in nov. for me. hopefully i will not have to make that choice.

  102. Terrondt

    My face is about to freeze into that mask that happens when one’s brain is still firing, but the body is so sore and stiff that bed is the only answer.

    So this will be quick.

    When you get into the contribute site, there are other choices as well as the first 3. Just pick what you think reaches people.

    I put 1/2 to radio and 1/2 to TV.

    Here is one neat place to go…InsightAnalytical. Read for awhile. Great comments from her readers and no foul language or personal attacks. If you google it, it’ currently the third one down.

    And if you haven’t gone to TalkLeft except when linked by Admin.,
    try it and read the comments too. Ehey are smart, and care, like at Hill44.

    Stay off your work computer until you really know the rules…and what was in your employee guidelines, whether the booklet, handouts at the new employee meeting, or new policy handed out.
    Also, find a friendly HR person and ask what the policy is…if you didn’t hear or read one. Ask if it is in written form and GET a copy if so.

    Nitey night.

    CYA my friend.

  103. Rendell needed to stick a finger in Russert’s eye today on MI & FLA,
    and show once & for all just how unfair all this garbage is.
    He didn’t do it.


    Rendell needed to make a statement, instead went for trying to shame Casey/Obama into a revote.
    That’s fine if that’s the course – for now – but where is the deafening chorus? Hill’s been saying it, bit Big Dawg is going to have to snap everyone to attention as only he can.

    Time’s growing short. The whole dean/Brazille/BO plan is to waste this time, right now, on settling on a direction so that after May 6 they can claim there’s no enough time to set up revotes.

  104. Hillary write in will deny BO AND McCain anything resembling a mandate.

    Deny both of them a mandate and send a message to Dean, Brazile, McDonald and the rest.

    It will also give her power within the DNC.

  105. *********
    Men, it’s not your place to tell Clinton to quit the race

    Sunday, April 06, 2008 Connie SchultzPlain Dealer Columnist

    Someone tell me, please, how grown men in 2008 can believe it’s their right – their duty, even – to tell a woman when she should rein in her ambition and go home.

    Male columnists, male politicians, male talking heads, male “surrogates” – all of them harrumphing that it’s time for Hillary Clinton to stop it, just stop it, with all this talk of being president.

    Who cares if the race is close? So what if millions of Americans believe their yet-to-be-cast votes matter? Voters, schmoters. When was this ever about them?

    Hillary Clinton, they insist, must quit.

    Well, boys, you’d better sit down for this one: This is no longer the playground of your youth. The girls aren’t sitting in the stands keeping score and cheering whenever you’re at bat. In fact, the girls aren’t girls at all anymore. We’re all grown up, and we are so done with this notion that the trajectory of our lives must end at the border of your comfort zone.

    Hillary Clinton marched across that border miles ago, and she is not about to surrender. Not now, anyway, and not ever because you said so. And if you’ve got anything besides hubris knocking around in those heads of yours, you will take note of the potential backfire in your volley.

    “OK, now I’m mad,” a friend, Karen, told me last week. “Who do they think they are?”

    She supports Barack Obama, but the thought of finger-wagging men telling a woman what to do really set her off. She might change her vote, and anyone reading some of the comments on newspapers’ Web sites and blogs knows she’s not alone.

    I’m thinkin’ that’s not where you fellas were going with this one. But I also think I can help.

    The problem here is that you don’t understand the tenacity of American women.

    Men, it’s not your place to tell Clinton to quit the race
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    It’s not all your fault. Your history books were full of tales of manly men beating each other up and then taking the livestock and womenfolk as prizes. Frankly, you were misled.

    You didn’t learn about how women risked their lives birthing babies in open fields and harboring escaped slaves on their flight to freedom. You probably didn’t spend much time on how Alice Paul and her fellow suffragettes were tortured in prison because they dared to picket for the right to vote. And chances are you’ve never cracked the spine of the book “Women’s Letters: America From the Revolutionary War to the Present” by Lisa Grunwald and Stephen J. Adler. If you had, you would have seen the letter Abigail Grant wrote to her husband, Aszariah, in 1776 after she found out he had been less than heroic in the battle at Bunker Hill.

    “Loving Husband,” her note began. “I hear by Capt Wm Riley news that makes me very Sorry for he Says you proved a Grand Coward when the fight was at Bunkers hill & in your Surprise he reports that you threw away your Cartridges So as to escape going into the Battle. . . . [I]f you are afraid pray own the truth & come home & take care of our Children & I will be Glad to Come & take your place, & never will be Called a Coward, neither will I throw away one Cartridge but exert myself bravely in so good a Cause.”

    See, that’s the thing. You’ve got to remember that there’s a bit of Abigail Grant in a whole lot of us women. Granted, we hide it well. Most women are all fervor and no fanfare, running everything from companies and campaigns to families and food drives without so much as a plaque with their names on it at the end of it all.

    We’re full of fight, too, which is the only way we got the vote, the pill and the right to own property, as opposed to being property. We don’t beat our breasts and brag about this, though, which appears to be part of the problem. Some men apparently still confuse humility with acquiescence, and then they think we need their permission to make a difference.

    One mile at a time, Hillary Clinton is clearing a new road, taking hits for the rest of us along the way.

    “It feels so personal,” another friend, Mary, told me. “Whenever I hear men bash Hillary, it feels like they’re attacking me.”

    See, guys, that’s not good.

    Remember: Abigail Grant lives.

    To reach Connie Schultz:cschultz@plaind.com, 216-999-5087 (the wife of Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown)

  106. Thanks Emjay for your post because I’m getting really, really tired of all this…Go Home Hillary before you’ll win the race.

    It’s not because they think she will lose, it’s because they’re afraid she will win. This race is still very, very close and the more she is in it to win it. The more shrill and hysterical the pronouncements gets.

    Obama is a pussy!


    It looks like many Obama’s supporters do not use their brain cortex to justify their choice, but rather sub-cortical structures of the brain responsible for emotions, not logical reasoning. They display blind rage, aggression and pure hate towards anyone who has reservations about their favorite. (In science, we call such reactions as coming from the “reptile brain”.) Responsible people are using facts as a base to formulate their opinions and not hearsay, gossip or questionable sources.
    Since there are people here who are obviously using unreliable resources to obtain their information, it seems that one has to set the record straight again.
    So, here is another set of cold facts about achievements of both candidates.


    Updated: 12:42 PM ET Apr 1, 2008
    A misleading e-mail has been making the rounds, alleging that Clinton has fewer legislative accomplishments than Obama, and that they are less substantive. We’ve had questions about it from a number of readers, and blogs have jumped into the fray. So what’s the real story on the Senate careers of the Democratic presidential candidates?

    We find that the e-mail is false in almost every particular:
    It sets up a face-off between apples and, well, broccoli, comparing only the Clinton-sponsored bills that became law with all bills sponsored or cosponsored by Obama, whether they were signed into law or not.

    It includes legislation Obama sponsored in the Illinois state Senate, a very different legislative body.

    It tells us that Obama has sponsored more legislation than Clinton, when in fact he has sponsored less.
    It implies that Obama has passed more bills into law than Clinton, when the opposite is true.
    Contrary to the e-mail’s assertions, Clinton’s and Obama’s contributions are not qualitatively different, and quantitatively, Clinton has the edge.
    What impresses us is how misleading the e-mail is. Its anonymous author doesn’t apply the same standards to Clinton’s record and Obama’s, thus leading to false conclusions about their legislative records. For Clinton, the e-mail claims to examine bills that the senator has sponsored and that were passed into law during her Senate career. For Obama, however, it counts both sponsored and cosponsored bills, whether they were passed or not. And – something the e-mail doesn’t state clearly – it counts bills Obama sponsored in the Illinois state Senate, before he was a United States senator.
    An accurate comparison with the Clinton bills listed in the e-mail would have included only the bills Obama has sponsored that have been signed into law. This comparison favors Clinton heavily, since 19 of her bills in seven years have become law, while Obama has had just 2 (two) in his three years:
    We counted only bills for which Obama or Clinton was the sole, original sponsor. The e-mail inflates Obama’s numbers by counting his cosponsored bills, but Sarah Binder, a fellow at the Brookings Institution and an expert on legislative politics, tells FactCheck.org that often “cosponsorship does not require a commitment of time, energy or resources – let alone the political or policy ingenuity that might generate a bill idea in the first place.” Tallying sponsored bills, says Binder, is “a better metric of a senator’s agenda, efforts and interests.”
    Clinton has been in the Senate a little more than seven years; Obama, a little more than three. Using the numbers above, we calculate that Clinton has been the sole sponsor of a few more bills and resolutions per year – 51, to Obama’s 43. And she has steered twice as many through the Senate and almost four times as many into law per year, on average, as Obama has.

    Barack Obama all legislative achievements.

    S. 2125, A bill to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

    S. 3757, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 950 Missouri Avenue in East St. Louis, Illinois, as the “Katherine Dunham Post Office Building.”

    Here’s our list of bills solely sponsored by Clinton that became law (descriptions of each are verbatim from THOMAS.gov, the Library of Congress’ database of legislative information):

    110th Congress:
    S. 694, A bill to direct the Secretary of Transportation to issue regulations to reduce the incidence of child injury and death occurring inside or outside of light motor vehicles, and for other purposes.

    109th Congress:
    S. 272, A bill to designate certain National Forest System land in the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico as a component of the National Wilderness Preservation System.

    S. 1283, A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish a program to assist family caregivers in accessing affordable and high-quality respite care, and for other purposes.

    S. 2376, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 80 Killian Road in Massapequa, New York, as the “Gerard A. Fiorenza Post Office Building.”

    S. 2722, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 170 East Main Street in Patchogue, New York, as the “Lieutenant Michael P. Murphy Post Office Building.”

    S. 3613, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the “Major George Quamo Post Office Building.”

    S. 3716, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 100 Pitcher Street in Utica, New York, as the “Captain George A. Wood Post Office Building.”

    S. 3910, A bill to direct the Joint Committee on the Library to accept the donation of a bust depicting Sojourner Truth and to display the bust in a suitable location in the Capitol.

    108th Congress:
    S. 1241, A bill to establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in the State of New York, and for other purposes.

    S. 1266, A bill to award a congressional gold medal to Dr. Dorothy Height, in recognition of her many contributions to the Nation.

    S. 1425, A bill to amend the Safe Drinking Water Act to reauthorize the New York City Watershed Protection Program.

    S. 2838, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 10 West Prospect Street in Nanuet, New York, as the “Anthony I. Lombardi Memorial Post Office Building.”

    S. 2839, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 555 West 180th Street in New York, New York, as the “Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda Post Office.”

    107th Congress:
    S. 584, A bill to designate the United States courthouse located at 40 Centre Street in New York, New York, as the “Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse.”

    S. 1422, A bill to provide for the expedited payment of certain benefits for a public safety officer who was killed or suffered a catastrophic injury as a direct and proximate result of a personal injury sustained in the line of duty in connection with the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

    S. 1622, A bill to extend the period of availability of unemployment assistance under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act in the case of victims of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

    S. 1892, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 375 Carlls Path in Deer Park, New York, as the “Raymond M. Downey Post Office Building.”

    S. 2496, A bill to provide for the establishment of investigative teams to assess building performance and emergency response and evacuation procedures in the wake of any building failure that has resulted in substantial loss of life or that posed significant potential of substantial loss of life, and for other purposes.

    S. 2918, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 380 Main Street in Farmingdale, New York, as the “Peter J. Ganci, Jr. Post Office Building.”

    Obama Clinton
    Years in Senate 3 7
    Bills sponsored* 129 358
    Bills passed by Senate 7 32
    Bills signed into law 2 19
    Sponsored, per year 43 51.1
    Passed by Senate, per year 2.3 4.6
    Signed into law, per year 0.7 2.7

    *Sole original sponsor

  108. emjay – more on Tuzla

    Long discussion thread with good links:

    h t t p : / / http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×5218599
    google Camp Alicia and Camp Bedrock in Bosnia and discover the tense, often damgerous atmosphere which surrounded the ‘separation zone’ at Alicia and the field hospital at Bedrock. Indiscriminate fire was a concern for all of the soldiers there. One of the things mentioned was the tendency of the locals to fire into the air without concern about where those bullets fell.

    Contemporary news account, uncut:
    h t t p : / / wvgazette.com/News/200803110472

  109. Emjay: just saw your message. Don’t know this guy. He may be the son of Ken McDonald who is an old civil rights lawyer here in Seattle who I used to know. If he is still living he must be a spry 90 (whoops sorry ABM 90 wrong button) David is probably just an outside lawyer representing the DNC. The legal position he is taking is beyond ludicrous. Every represnentative . . . then he might. Can you give me a link so I can look at this first hand.

    By the way there were some parting is such sweet sorrow at TM on the Penn departure but as far as I am concerned it is manna from heaven. I say that for at leas 7 reasons, but the bottom line is this will absolutely energize the campaign. This is as imporant as getting Maggie Willams in there which has been all to the good.

  110. Both are qualified. Both will be an agent of change from years of profligate spending on a misguided war. Both will address the discontent that results from long unmet needs and the mismanagement of our nation’s economic affairs.

    I disagree with Obama being qualified for any of these items.

  111. winhillary 3:50 am

    When you accuse Obama supporters of having a brain (putting aside the question of its functionality) I think of the common courtroom objection which goes like this:

    “Objection: assumes facts not in evidence.”

  112. ABC News reporting that McCain also considering Gen. Patraeus as VP. I pass it along as all this VP speculation for McCain has to be trial balloons to see what will energize his base. I think that it also may be something that can affect the Democratic race (and maybe help Hillary in the long run).

  113. Admin and others – I sent an email to CNN asking them to either have Donna Brazile be designated as a Obama supporter or being taken off the air the same way Carville and Begala were.

  114. I meant to also say on the comment above that I encourage all of us to make a big push to get Brazile designated as an Obama supporter or taken off.

  115. And another good idea someone had was to constantly be hitting the Obama ads. Because when you hit the Obama ads they have to pay money. So it’s a good way to help Obama spend all those millions!

  116. TCB: you’re right concerning emailing cnn. We need to be more aggressive making sure Hillary supporters are represented on cnn and obama supporters are designated as that.

    What do you mean hit his ads?

  117. Sean Wilentz has a new article.


    If, while heeding the party’s rules, the Democratic superdelegates overturn those majorities, Obama’s supporters claim, they will have displayed a cynical contempt for democracy that would tear the party apart.

    These arguments might be compelling if Obama’s leads were not so reliant on certain eccentricities in the current Democratic nominating process, as well as on some blatantly anti-democratic maneuvers by the Obama campaign. Obama’s advantage hinges on a system that, whatever the actual intentions behind it, seems custom-made to hobble Democratic chances in the fall. It depends on ignoring one of the central principles of American electoral politics, one that will be operative on a state-by-state basis this November, which is that the winner takes all. If the Democrats ran their nominating process the way we run our general elections, Sen. Hillary Clinton would have a commanding lead in the delegate count, one that will only grow more commanding after the next round of primaries, and all questions about which of the two Democratic contenders is more electable would be moot.

    Under the existing system, Obama’s current lead in the popular vote would nearly vanish if the results from Michigan and Florida were included in the total, and his lead in pledged delegates would melt almost to nothing. The difference in the popular vote would fall to 94,005 out of nearly 27 million cast thus far — a difference of a mere four-tenths of 1 percentage point — and the difference in delegates would plummet to about 30, out of the 2,024 needed to win. Add those states’ votes to the totals, and take a sober look at Clinton’s popular-vote victories in virtually all other large states, and the electoral dynamic changes. She begins to look like the almost certain nominee.

    Instead, Obama’s campaign has tendered the startling proposal that he arbitrarily be allotted half of the votes already cast in Michigan and Florida. Of course, a large number of these votes — more than a quarter of a million in Florida alone — were not cast for Obama. He simply proposes that the party add these votes to his total, as though they were rightfully his. Saying that votes already cast for other candidates should go to him is a bold power grab, worthy of the Chicago machine organizations that claimed the votes of the recently deceased, their names gleaned from the voting rolls. By any definition of democracy, those votes do not belong to Obama; nor do they belong to Hillary Clinton, nor to Howard Dean. They belong to the voters. Obama can no more lay claim to them legitimately than his supporters can declare he has won the nomination before the remaining primaries take place.

  118. Wall Street Journal story: Obama May Not Have Fully Contained Damage From Ex-Pastor


    It has not been defused,” says David Parker, a North Carolina Democratic Party official and unpledged superdelegate. He says his worries about Republicans questioning Sen. Obama’s patriotism prompted him to raise the issue of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.’s remarks in conversations with both the Obama and Clinton campaigns.

    I’m concerned about seeing Willie Horton ads during the general election,” Mr. Parker says, referring to campaign ads that Republicans widely credited for helping defeat Michael Dukakis in 1988. Mr. Parker said the Wright controversy didn’t hurt his opinion of Mr. Obama.

    Recent polls suggest that, in key swing states, the New York senator fares better in head-to-head matchups with Republican nominee Sen. John McCain than does Sen. Obama. In Ohio, Sen. Clinton led Sen. McCain 48% to 39%, while Sen. Obama led Sen. McCain 43% to 42% in Quinnipiac University polls conducted in the last week of March.

  119. So let me get this straight. One the one hand we have Republican candidate McCain, whose pastor he calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, who believes that America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.” On the other, we have someone who wants to be the Democratic nominee in November, Barak Hussein Obama, a person who under Islamic law is considered a Muslim because he was born to a Muslim father, and whose “spiritual guide” for the last 20 years is an anti-white racist, pro-Islamic black radical. Looking at these two extremes, with both wanting to occupy one of the most powerful and potentially dangerous offices in the world, one might be tempted to ask a very relevant question. Are we nuts or what!

    Viewed from here, sitting at my desk in Beijing, it appears that Americans are suffering, like several other countries we won’t mention here, from group maladjustment to the strains of globalization. And what is most strange is that there is someone running for President, Democrat Hillary Clinton, who has no whacky spiritual advisors, who has a Yale law degree, tons of hands on experience as a Senator and exposure as a First Lady to the ins and outs of domestic and international affairs, is not personally at war with Islam nor in bed with it, who is just someone who would make one heck of a good old fashioned bread and butter and president. And guess what? Instead of being the hands on favorite for the job, she has been forced to fight for it inch by inch.

    It is sad to see my country in such a sad state of affairs. The voters are fiddling as the nation burns. Am I the only one who feels they are witnessing the end of the American era, if things don’t change soon? That is besides Hillary Clinton? Are there group rates for psychiatric sessions?

  120. I posted about these ” ADD ON SUPER DELEGATES” here on friday……..must of been over looked……but i think they are a big deal……..why else haven’t they been talking about them ???

    # djia Says:
    April 5th, 2008 at 12:29 am

    OMG!! Have any of you heard about this?? Could this be a good thing for Hillary?? Could this be the reason the Obamamites
    Are frothing at the jowls to push her out now??

    There are superdelegates, and there are superduper delegates
    WASHINGTON (AP) – Some of those presidential superdelegates Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are pursuing are more super than others. One delegate, one vote doesn’t apply to them. These prominent Democrats can name additional superdelegates, giving them control over multiple convention votes, and that could be the difference in a race that may not be decided until the August convention.


    Consider Art Torres, chairman of the California Democratic Party. He remains uncommitted, yet he could be the most powerful superdelegate of all. Torres gets to name five additional superdelegates, giving him control over six votes at the national convention this summer.
    “I am the super of supers!” Torres proclaims with a laugh.
    He and other state party chairmen will appoint most of the additional 76, known in Democratic ranks as “unpledged add-ons.”
    “They basically are gifts to the state party chairs,” Harold Ickes, a chief strategist for Clinton, said of the additional superdelegates.
    The 76 “add-ons” are doled out to each state based on population and Democratic voting strength. Every state but Florida and Michigan, which were penalized for holding early primaries, gets at least one. California’s five are the most.
    The extra delegates will be selected at state party conventions and committee meetings throughout the spring. In about half the states, including California, Georgia and Ohio, they must be chosen from lists compiled by the state party chairmen. If the chairmen list only one person for each slot, they effectively name the extra delegates.
    In other states the additional delegates can be nominated from the floor of the convention or by simply applying, turning mundane state party gatherings into spirited debates about the presidential candidates.
    Alabama’s extra delegate was decided by six votes on March 1, when Obama backer and labor leader Stewart Burkhalter was selected at a meeting of the state party’s executive committee. Burkhalter said he worked with the Obama campaign to get the nod.
    Aides to both campaigns say they are wading into local politics to try to make sure the new delegates are amenable to their candidate.
    Some state party chairmen will consult governors or senators when making their choice; others will simply pick like-minded delegates.
    That’s what Wyoming Democratic Chairman John Millin plans to do when he selects the state’s extra delegate in May. Millin, who has endorsed Obama, said he plans to choose another Obama supporter for the spot, though he hopes their votes are not decisive.
    In California, Torres has come up with a diplomatic way to select his five delegates. He said he plans to award them in proportion to the vote in California’s Democratic primary. Clinton received about 52 percent of the vote, so she gets three; Obama got 43 percent of the vote, so he gets two.
    Both campaigns lobbied Oklahoma Democratic Chairman Ivan Holmes before he picked the state’s extra delegate in February. It didn’t work.
    Holmes, who hasn’t endorsed Clinton or Obama, said he selected another undecided superdelegate, the state party’s chief fundraiser, Reggie Whitten.

    To read the entire article: tinyurl.com/6yvvgb

  121. Admin, I am working on something important. Do you or anyone here have links to Hillary SD supporters who were threatened to be primaried or threatened/harrassed in any other way for endorsing Hill?

  122. This is a bit long so scroll by if not interested. Texas4hillary provided the link.


    My notes from the Rules and Bylaws 8/25/07 meeting in Washington DC and the decision to strip Florida of 100% of its delegates.

    For those of you who want to see Brazille in action, scroll over to the end of the video say the last 10 minutes or so.

    My first impressions:
    All those who were strongly in favor of sanctioning Florida were AA’s except for Gary Shay, DNC member from CA.
    Those who argued strongly for the sanctions included:
    Ralph Dawson, the AA who brought the motion to sanction to the committee,
    Hartina Flournoy, DNC member from District of Columbia
    Yvonne Gates, DNC member from Nevada
    Alexis Herman, Co-chair of DNC
    Alice Germond, DNC Washington DC.
    AND, of course, the inimitable Donna Brazille.

    Karen Thurman, Terry Brody and others tried their best to present their arguments for a waiver of sanctions, citing several compelling reasons, including:
    The Republican Florida majority tied a crucial Property reform bill to the change of Primary Date and to NOT vote for it would mean the loss of millions of dollars in assistance to schools and public services across the state.
    Terry Brady explained why a huge turnout was needed to defeat the property tax reform initiative.

    The Florida Repubs tied the issue of creating an election paper trail to the passage of the Primary date change. Thurman and the Florida group explained that it was impossible for them to vote against that referendum in light of the problems with Florida voting in the 2000 and 20004 elections.

    A suggestion was made to hold caucuses instead but Jon (Issemann) pointed out that instead of 6700 primary sites there would be only 167 caucus sites and that would cut voter participation from several million to 100,000.

    That would also not allow for absentee voting, military voting, disabled voting, etc.

    Forgot to write his name but one man poignantly pleaded for ‘mercy not judgment.” But Ralph Dawson made a motion to accept the finding of non-compliance on the part of Florida and provide 30 days for the state to submit corrective actions or be full sanctioned with the loss of 100% of their delegates. He was NOY at all accessible, neither were the other DNC members whose names I list above. It was if they went into the meeting with the outcome already decided.

    Interestingly, in Vermont Dean said, with regards to Florida, that all democrats shouldn’t be punished for the sake of a few but the DNC evidently didn’t agree with him.

    Finally, before the final vote which, I have to say, was practically unanimous to sanction Florida except for one or two nays, Alice Germond went into a discussion of how the rules had to be followed and that Florida could hold a primary but it would be viewed as a “BEUATY CONTEST” or “STRAW POLL” and that the issue should NOT be taken to the Credentials Committee at the convention.

    That’s where BO got those terms, I guess.

    Brazille then went into a tirade, very passionate, about the RULES the RULES and how a 1981 SUPREME COURT decision said Dems could make and enforce their own rules.

    She also said she loves Florida, she’s been there 21 times, and she “HOPES to go back soon to WORK ON HER TAN!”

    Dawson then put the motion in play and announced:
    “Pursuant to the Rules Committee # —- We find Florida in non-compliance and recommend it be stripped of 100% of its delegates. If, at the end of 30 days, corrective action hasn’t been taken, the decision will stand.”

    More later.

  123. dedfg – When you are online there are Obama for President ads. Just like all ads on line when you click on the ad it takes note of the traffic. The more traffic the ad gets the more the advertiser (in this case the Obama campaign) has to pay. Does that make sense?

    Someone correct me if I’m wrong but that’s how I understand how on line advertising works.

  124. tcb:

    you are correct on the Ad cost

    everytime you click on the ad’s including the “sponsored links” on the right side and in the highlighted area at the top of the page
    they are charged per click.

  125. Admin, thanks for sharing the very enlightening WSJ article.

    Based on it, if to be a Democrat means to remain silent or to be silenced about someone who wants to be president while belonging to such a church as he does, then after lifetime of membership, I can not in good conscious continue doing so. This goes against the very principles our country is built on, that all persons, regardless of gender, race, or religion are held to the same standards. This applies even more so its leaders. Any Party or organization that promotes a policy contrary to this notion is poison to the very soul of this great nation. This issue has not been decided yet, but it the Party chooses to follow this erroneous course, it must be fought. I will not be gagged. I am not alone.

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  127. If anyone has links to the info about Donna Brazile regarding her not wanting LGBT issues to be included in the party platform and/or

    info on Obama not wanting to get his picture taken with Mayor Gavin Newsom of SF, please post it as I want to send it to my LGBT friends.


  128. Hi–

    I know you all are aware of the Media Protest scheduled for Friday in NYC. I thought you might be interested in this video “Hillary Clinton: Mad As Hell/Bitch” created by ShutTheFreudUp Productions a joint project my me and another Hillary “grass roots” supporter IndyRobin.

    Please view the video and if you can, see the video on YouTube and mark is as a FAVORITE, post a COMMENT, and RATE it. If we get enough traffic to the video, it will only raise it’s popularity which may in turn expose it to more people.



  129. That was totally stupid. I’m tcb and your Ronald!

    Ronald – Excellent. Thank you!!

  130. Gotta get outta here but after watching all 90+ minutes of the Rules and By-Laws meeting sanctioning Florida, it occurs to me perhaps we should target the specific members who were so opposed to providing “mercy” instead of “Punishment.”

    Here is the list of those who spoke for the DNC
    Ralph Dawson, who brought the motion to sanction to the committee,
    Hartina Flournoy, DNC member from District of Columbia
    Yvonne Gates, DNC member from Nevada
    Alexis Herman, Co-chair of DNC
    Alice Germond, DNC Washington DC.
    AND, of course, the inimitable Donna Brazille.
    James Roosevelt presided
    Don Towler, DNC member from SC, was the ONLY one who voiced objections to the EXTREME sanctions suggested and said that such a decision could come back to bite the Democratic Party in November but his appeals for reason were ignored.

  131. Maybe this is worth looking at. Someone on Hillary’s site said they googled their name, found out they donated money to the Obama campaign. She said she never donated any money to his campaign,

  132. This is what she wrote:

    Hillary – and all those who are working so hard in this campaign….. I am your staunch supporter and that will not change! I googled my name today and was shocked to see myself listed as a Democrat who had supported Obama with – get this – $1500! SIMPLY NOT TRUE!!! Pack of lies. I would not support him with 1500 pennies. This is just not true – where are these numbers coming from and who is “publishing” them??? I am apalled and alarmed to see this. What can I do?
    With whatever I have, I have been supporting you constantly and consistently – if I had $1500, believe me each penny of that would go to YOU! never to “B.O.”
    Somebody in his campaign is spreading lies about either their source of money of the amount of money.
    THIS IS FYI – and for everybody else’s FYI too that this is what’s going on in the Obama campaign

  133. Admin, I now only need two things. One, any link that discusses the friendship between Brazile and Rove. Two, any link that discusses Brazile’s run a DNC Chair in 2004.

  134. Great article in the Boston Globe

    @Ann did you know about this? Its only covered in the Op Eds???

    We should all send email to Therese Murray and the other representatives listed who are standing up for voters and not bowing to the old boy Kennedy/Kerry network.

    Fired up and ready for a nomination battle
    Globe Columnist / April 6, 2008
    IN MASSACHUSETTS, prominent Hillary Clinton supporters are fired up and ready to go after prominent Barack Obama supporters.

    Joan Vennochi Fired up and ready for a nomination battle

    Madeleine Kunin Let’s talk about racial and gender bias

    Last week, a group of Democratic women who support Clinton rallied in front of the State House. They want the state’s superdelegates – including Governor Deval Patrick and Senators Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry – to support primary revotes in Michigan and Florida.

    The men – all Obama supporters – are less than eager to take up their request. The women, lead by Senate President Therese Murray, have Clinton’s self-interest on their side. But they also have principle.

    By disenfranchising voters in two states, the Democratic Party looks less than inclusive; and, Obama, the candidate who promises a different kind of politics, looks like he’s practicing the same old, same old. That’s wrong, and it’s also shortsighted. If the Obama campaign works to stifle votes now, how can any Democratic nominee complain if Republicans do the same in November?

    The national party is still trying to figure out how to handle more than 2 million votes cast by Florida and Michigan Democrats. After both states ignored party rules by scheduling their primaries when they did, the Democratic National Committee stripped their delegates. With Obama opting to stay off the ballot, Clinton won 55 percent of the vote in Michigan. She won 50 percent of the vote in Florida.

    “The road to winning the White House goes through Michigan and that is why our voices need to be heard in selecting a Democratic nominee,” Governor Jennifer Granholm of Michigan said. “Nearly 600,000 people voted in the Jan. 15 Democratic primary and our votes must count and our delegates must be seated.”

    The party is wrangling over how delegates will be apportioned, with Obama forces working to keep Clinton’s share as low as possible. The obvious remedy – a revote – was derailed. “The Obama people didn’t want it to happen,” said a Granholm aide.

    However, Clinton supporters in Massachusetts – especially female elected officials – aren’t giving up.

    Clinton won the Massachusetts primary over Obama, despite his high-profile male supporters. Now, Clinton backers are pressuring the male political establishment to support revotes elsewhere.

    The State House rally also included Boston City Council President Maureen Feeney; Suffolk County Sheriff Andrea Cabral; former state treasurer Shannon O’Brien; and former lieutenant governor Evelyn Murphy. They are threatening to withhold support for the party nominee, if they don’t like the way the nominating process plays out.

    “Without us, there is no party. And if we leave, that wouldn’t be good,” said Murray, according to a State House News Service report.

    Earlier this year, Murray, the first woman to hold the Senate president’s post, chastised Kennedy and other prominent men for abandoning Clinton to support Obama. “I don’t want to be pushed aside anymore,” said Murray. “I don’t want to be patted on the head, saying, ‘You did a good job on that, but now we got this young person, we got this attractive man, because you can’t get elected because the media said you couldn’t, because the polls said you couldn’t. We’re going to put this guy out front.’ ”

    Kennedy backs a delegate-driven nomination, rather than one determined by superdelegates. It’s a position of some irony, given his stance during the 1980 presidential campaign, when he and incumbent President Jimmy Carter battled through a nine-month primary season. Kennedy came into the Democratic Convention with fewer delegates than Carter, and pushed unsuccessfully for a rule to release delegates from their voting commitment. A few years later, the party embraced the rule that prevails today; so-called superdelegates can pledge their vote to whomever they prefer.

    Kerry – the Democratic presidential nominee still haunted by how the votes were counted in Ohio in 2004 – told Clinton’s female supporters he cares about fairness, but has yet to finalize a meeting with them.

    Patrick finally agreed to a one-hour meeting set for Thursday, after repeated requests from women who were among his staunchest supporters during his 2006 gubernatorial campaign.

    Watch out, guys. Another revolution could be brewing in Massachusetts.

  135. We are still awaiting final results from Washington State, but one piece of County Convention news I can pass along is that it appears as though we picked up at least two delegates from the Texas County Conventions. This is big news considering the closeness of the overall delegate race.

  136. Thanks for all the comments here on the video. Sorry for the double post (admin if you want to delete the second, that’s fine by me.)

    Please everyone remember to RATE, COMMENT and mark it as a FAVORITE this will help spread the video.

  137. Great article. Posted by someone at TM comments section:

    cleveland.com/schultz/index.ssf?/base/living-0/12074706642 6150.xml&coll=2

    Men, it’s not your place to tell Clinton to quit the race

    Sunday, April 06, 2008

    Someone tell me, please, how grown men in 2008 can believe it’s their right – their duty, even – to tell a woman when she should rein in her ambition and go home.

    Male columnists, male politicians, male talking heads, male “surrogates” – all of them harrumphing that it’s time for Hillary Clinton to stop it, just stop it, with all this talk of being president.

    Who cares if the race is close? So what if millions of Americans believe their yet-to-be-cast votes matter? Voters, schmoters. When was this ever about them?

    Hillary Clinton, they insist, must quit.

    Well, boys, you’d better sit down for this one: This is no longer the playground of your youth. The girls aren’t sitting in the stands keeping score and cheering whenever you’re at bat. In fact, the girls aren’t girls at all anymore. We’re all grown up, and we are so done with this notion that the trajectory of our lives must end at the border of your comfort zone.

    Hillary Clinton marched across that border miles ago, and she is not about to surrender. Not now, anyway, and not ever because you said so. And if you’ve got anything besides hubris knocking around in those heads of yours, you will take note of the potential backfire in your volley.

    “OK, now I’m mad,” a friend, Karen, told me last week. “Who do they think they are?”

    She supports Barack Obama, but the thought of finger-wagging men telling a woman what to do really set her off. She might change her vote, and anyone reading some of the comments on newspapers’ Web sites and blogs knows she’s not alone.

    I’m thinkin’ that’s not where you fellas were going with this one. But I also think I can help.

    The problem here is that you don’t understand the tenacity of American women.

    It’s not all your fault. Your history books were full of tales of manly men beating each other up and then taking the livestock and womenfolk as prizes. Frankly, you were misled.

    You didn’t learn about how women risked their lives birthing babies in open fields and harboring escaped slaves on their flight to freedom. You probably didn’t spend much time on how Alice Paul and her fellow suffragettes were tortured in prison because they dared to picket for the right to vote. And chances are you’ve never cracked the spine of the book “Women’s Letters: America From the Revolutionary War to the Present” by Lisa Grunwald and Stephen J. Adler. If you had, you would have seen the letter Abigail Grant wrote to her husband, Aszariah, in 1776 after she found out he had been less than heroic in the battle at Bunker Hill.

    “Loving Husband,” her note began. “I hear by Capt Wm Riley news that makes me very Sorry for he Says you proved a Grand Coward when the fight was at Bunkers hill & in your Surprise he reports that you threw away your Cartridges So as to escape going into the Battle. . . . [I]f you are afraid pray own the truth & come home & take care of our Children & I will be Glad to Come & take your place, & never will be Called a Coward, neither will I throw away one Cartridge but exert myself bravely in so good a Cause.”

    See, that’s the thing. You’ve got to remember that there’s a bit of Abigail Grant in a whole lot of us women. Granted, we hide it well. Most women are all fervor and no fanfare, running everything from companies and campaigns to families and food drives without so much as a plaque with their names on it at the end of it all.

    We’re full of fight, too, which is the only way we got the vote, the pill and the right to own property, as opposed to being property. We don’t beat our breasts and brag about this, though, which appears to be part of the problem. Some men apparently still confuse humility with acquiescence, and then they think we need their permission to make a difference.

    One mile at a time, Hillary Clinton is clearing a new road, taking hits for the rest of us along the way.

    “It feels so personal,” another friend, Mary, told me. “Whenever I hear men bash Hillary, it feels like they’re attacking me.”

    See, guys, that’s not good.

    Remember: Abigail Grant lives.

    To reach Connie Schultz:

    cschultz@plaind.com, 216-999-5087

  138. geek
    i suggest reposting your link every hour or so as it shouldn’t be missed by those logging on later.

  139. So long, Mark Penn. We’ll miss you and your conflicts of interest. And your uninspiring presence as TV commentator. BTW, we here little people have been ponying up $10.44 here, and $25.44 there…maybe you could return some of Hillary’s money, the way you would any “important client” that gets a discount.

    And yes, media will try to portray it as “Clinton campaign in tailspin”, etc. (NY Times subheadline was “New Blow to Campaign”.). I’m not sure how it is a “blow” to the campaign by demoting (he’ll still be doing some polling work, supposedly) this guy… He was divisive, and fell short of trying to be Hillary’s “Karl Rove evil-mastermind”.

  140. rjb…actually, Penn is not going to be doing anything differently than he already has. I think it was pretty smart of the campaign to publicly remove his title. Not because it was necessary, but only to emphasis what his original role actually was (and never was).

  141. Kudos to Ellen for a great show with Hill this morning, she gave her a chance to talk about gay rights, health care and Bosnia. Hill was funny, fantastic and fabulous. She HAS to be President, and will be.

  142. I have a question for Senator Obama. You say that you are a Christian and I will give you the benefit of a doubt even though I do not consider your church a Christian one. What were you doing in Pakistan while in college?

  143. TO the male pundits that say Hillary Clinton should end her campaign, I say this:

    Hillary Clinton was the First Lady of the US. Now, she wants to be the First Woman.
    There is a difference. Those who are scratching their heads reading this dont understand the first thing about sexism.

  144. mj,

    Brazile has been a consistent supporter of glbt rights. As far as a close personal relationship with Rove not likely, but she does have several business frendships inside the republican party.

  145. debbie Says:

    April 7th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Brazile has been a consistent supporter of glbt rights.

    Nope. Didn’t you see the post at MyDD. She stopped LGBT from getting affirmative action delegates awarded to them by the DNC. Further, she’s friendly with Rove, I already found the article.

  146. It was a great video, I had quit watching Msm months ago and I had not seen all those c omments, it makes me mad as hell! It is just disgusting what has been happening, hopefully by putting them all together will show people exactly what is happening!
    What about this person that donated to Hillary and BO got the money? has anyone checked into that?

  147. henry-
    that’s what inspired my post
    still pissed off after watching that 😡
    but Im happy my republican mother is emailing it to all the women in her address book.

  148. ronald
    under another name i repeatedly asked you to read geek love and i believe you had confused it with another book. something about sexual expression in sf which is not what the book is about. its about cult mentality and a mothers love.

  149. also i have viewed geek loves video on you tube at least 5 times and the counter is the same as when i first viewed. do they only count unique viewings?

  150. neeta was posting a comment at Hill’s blog, not about herself. You google your name by going to google.com and simply seraching your name in quotes:
    “my name”

  151. My sister (barely in college) just donated to HRC. She is generally apolitical, and had never been part of anyone’s campaign before!

    But, she is not going to let HRC lose PA. Not for anything.

    I’m so proud of her.

  152. Now heres something Hill should be shouting from the roof tops.

    Obama fucks it up royally with another choice quote.


    When, and if, it comes time to look for a running mate, Barack Obama will be looking for “somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I’m not an expert on.”

    And then he goes on trying to say, I’m the expert on Foreign Pol, i have to laugh.

    Clearly the man knows nothing and has to have a vp who will do it all.

    Sounds Familiar, can’t possibly think where we have been through that before, can you, oh wait a minute?

  153. That video really shows the media bias, i wish we could get everyone to see it, most people would be appalled!

  154. I respect Condi Rice more than I will EVER respect Obama!

    So if she is the VP nominee…and BO is the DEM POTUS nominee…easier choice to make!

  155. I want to light another candle for Hillary, does anyone know how to do that? I forgot how to do it!

  156. And we thought Presidential wannabe mush-mouth off-the-cuff poorly constructed comments were limited to Shrub:

    Posted April 7, 2008 11:15 AM

    by Mark Silva

    When, and if, it comes time to look for a running mate, Barack Obama will be looking for “somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I’m not an expert on.”

    This was the senator’s word at a closed-door fundraiser last night in San Francisco, the Huffington Post reports. Obama fielded a question on what he’s looking for in a running mate, HuffPo”s Mayhill Flower writes.

    “I would like somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I’m not as expert on,” the senator is quoted as saying. “I think a lot of people assume that might be some sort of military thing to make me look more commander-in-hief-like. Ironically, this is an area–foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain.

    “It’s ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be commander-in-chief,” he continued. “Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world.

    “When Sen. Clinton brags, ‘I’ve met leaders from eighty countries– I know what those trips are like! I’ve been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There’s a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then–you go.

    “You do that in eighty countries–you don’t know those eighty countries,” he said. “So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa–knowing the leaders is not important–what I know is the people. . I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college–I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . .

    Bunch of stuff ?!!?

  157. hehe, the I travelled to pakistan when i was in college, you can bet, they’ll be digging to see where he went.

    Is it just me, or does Obama consort with dodgy places a bit too much?

  158. This guy is a whacko, and a sexist pig. I honestly laugh at women who support this idiot. They are as pathetic as he is. They can not see blatant sexism when it is staring them in the face.

  159. OK…so BO travelled to Pakistan as a college student…that is even more of a suspect for me to doubt this guy now!

  160. I’m really tired of him insulting her service as first lady.

    He says he knows what foreign trips are like, but he has no idea what she did when she traveled.

  161. he so should not have said that about going to pakistan as a student, Obama just has radical student written all over him, I’m sorry but i really think Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing, we see the media Obama, whats the real one?

  162. The unintentional hilarity just keeps on coming:

    When, and if, it comes time to look for a running mate, Barack Obama will be looking for “somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I’m not as expert on.”

    This moron must be stopped!

  163. Oh yeah…Rezko is Syrian!

    This guy has too much connections to the Muslim world for my comfort level!

  164. He must have went there with his Pakistanny room-mate. Where is this room-mate now? Anybody know?

  165. If Obama thinks it is so easy to be First Lady, then he should try it.

    Hillary Clinton was the First Lady of the United States. Now, she wants to be the First Woman.

    There is a difference that I dont think Obama understands.

  166. I bet Fox News has a special video of him in Pakistan just waiting to use in the near future, just as soon and DB and HD has managed to hoodwinked the SD”into nominating him!

  167. Hey Hill-team!

    We got to do better!

    Hillary needs to have the following areas helped out! These three are the most critical parts of advertising:

    Television Ads
    Online Ads
    Radio Ads

    Let’s channel our energy in helping raising funds for these three for PA!

    Go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com

    Also did any of you see the recent posting on Taylor Marsh? There was a suggestion there from Patti De Solis previous manager of Hillary’s campaign suggesting the two (yes….Hillary and Obama) to have a unity ticket, she even set up a wesbite encouraging people to sign the petition- http://www.taylormarsh.com – what you think?

  168. He will never get elected, now we know he went to Pakistan while in college, along with his buddies Wright, Farrahkan and Malcolm X’s philosophies. Every Republican, democrat will come out and vote against this man in the general!

  169. One of his college friend – Hasan – while at Occidental college was a UK born Pakistani…and probably lives in UK with ties in Pakistan

    But he also lived with an ILLEGAL Pakistan immigrant – Saqid – while in NY at columbia!

    Oh baby….directly abetting and supporting illegal immigration as a 22yrs old! No wonder he wants to give drivers license to them!

  170. WBBoei

    Here is where it was first posted…I can’t figure out how to copy the purple link:

    texan4hillary Says:
    April 6th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    McDonald first mentiond in comments 15, 16, 18, 20 and on down after the article on TalkLeft.

    The link to the full video is also in the TL article…the comments are almost as interesting, and full of information.

    That tape and ensuing discussion remind me of a graduate seminar in Ethical and Legal Issues in Management.

  171. justme,
    ‘There was a suggestion there from Patti De Solis previous manager of Hillary’s campaign suggesting the two (yes….Hillary and Obama) to have a unity ticket,’

    You’re kidding, right? I’m gonna check it now but it seems awfully presumptuous of Solis to have done that. Much as i respect Mario Cuomo’s opinion that both candidates should pledge to be on the ticket according to who the winner is, with the first place as Prez and second place as VP, I honestly can’t imagine the 2 of them together. I’ll go one step further; I will NOT vote for BO for either Pres or VP.

  172. justme,

    I checked the TM and the comments seem overwhelmingly AGAINST the idea and I AGREE!!!!!!

    Someone said it’s Dean pandering to the Hispanic vote. This is outrageous and I just hope Solis cleared it with her former boss before she took it upon herself to launch a petition! Reminds me of the Penn consulting with Colombians thing when he KNEW she was against the agreement.


  173. I’d never go for Obama as VP simply because we know of enough nutters associated with the Obama cult that would probably try and bump her off to make him President.

  174. I’m having a problem with going after black party leaders ie Donna Brazile because they don’t agree with us. Frankly I believe they are experts at race baiting, and will draw us into an unwinable fight. Trying to take down Donna Brazile at this point will be futile. Anything we say to disparage her, even if it is true will be looked upon as racist. Thats exactly where they want us.

    Donna Brazile is an Obama supporter. She applies her power for the benefit of the black community then all others second. She is self promoting and will align herself with whomever it will take to gain the power she wants. These are not secrets.

  175. Whoah! A “bunch of stuff I’m not an expert on”??!?? Is George Bush writing BHO’s speeches? Jesus.

  176. moonpluto,

    You beat me to it! I was getting ready to post the SAME thing!

    I do not trust BO and crew to be anywhere near the WH.

  177. debbie,
    ‘I believe they are experts at race baiting,’
    I agree, but what is the solution? how long can you hold your fire because you think the enemy may be offended? This is BLACKMAIL! If addressing the circumstances mean we risk being called racist, well, so be it. I’d rather fight a real fight than feel like I’m operating with one hand tied behind my back.

    And, TTTT, it’s not good for anyone! Not the country, not AA’s, not the world. Screw this fear of being called racist cr@p! They’re going to think whatever they want no matter what we do. (IMHO)

  178. oh good grief-msnbc all over hillary over the hosptial story. calling her a liar. gee so u are taking the hospital’s word on this? why has the hospjumped in this? but tis hillaryso she must be wrong. sick.

  179. Yeah, it probably is that Dean sees the end of BO and he wants to sweet talk Hillary into pulling across the finish line, I say NO, but if he was VP, I trust Hillary to run the show and to watch Mr. Bo very carefully!

    h t t p ://w w w.g r a t e f u l n e s s. o r g / c a n d l e s / e n t e r . c f m ? l= e n g

    Don’t forget to take out the spaces. This is the only way i could post this. Please light one for Hillary

  181. confloyd, this is from someone on Hillary’s site saying they googled their name, found out they were on O’s list of donors. They never donated to O’s campaign

  182. Neetabug, I finally remembered, you know I am one of those old women that supports Hillary, may be a little altzheimer’s creeping in!LOL!I lit on for her a few moments ago, thanks!

  183. confloyd,

    But what if the unimaginable happened? He would be next in line! I can’t accept that.

  184. Yes, I googled my name and apparently there is someone is Georgia with my name that is a republican, WOW, that shocked me! I am Ok, it just shows me as a blogger on the DNC blogsite.

  185. There is some blogger on Hill’s blog lashing out at her because she said Bush should skip the opening ceremonies in China of the olympics given China’s inaction on Darfur, and reprehensible activity in Tibet. Do you think this is just an Obama troll?

  186. Hillary was told of the hospital story by a cop why wouldn’t she believe a cop? second she never mentioned the name of the hospital that I heard…so why is this a lie?

  187. You know, I just don’t watch TV, I think most people don’t watch tv as much as us Political junkies do!

  188. Hi– Repeating a post from earlier as requested by some readers here for those who may not have seen it earlier. (I am sorry if this repost is against forum rules. If so, please delete.)

    I know you all are aware of the Media Protest scheduled for Friday in NYC. I thought you might be interested in this video “Hillary Clinton: Mad As Hell/Bitch” created by ShutTheFreudUp Productions a joint project my me and another Hillary “grass roots” supporter IndyRobin.

    Please view the video and if you can, see the video on YouTube and mark is as a FAVORITE, post a COMMENT, and RATE it. If we get enough traffic to the video, it will only raise it’s popularity which may in turn expose it to more people.



  189. One of the worst things for me, personally, watching this horrible sexist misogynistic HRC-bashing nomination is that I have lost all respect for and belief in the “Fourth Estate.” It’s like realizing there’s no Santa Claus. I will simply never be able to watch and listen to news confident that I’m being objectively informed by honorable professionals.

    I’ve tuned out and I seldom switch the tv on anymore except for Lou Dobbs. I’m almost at the point pf canceling my cable account. Heck, I’d save 50 bucks a month if I did.,

  190. basil9

    “I will simply never be able to watch and listen to news confident that I’m being objectively informed by honorable professionals. ”

    So True

  191. basil9, It took a while for me to even watch the video that’s on here, it make me sick! I think what she has gone through, she has got to be the strongest person on this earth!

  192. I was just forwarded this by my husband (who is an Obambi supporter…but I still love him), and there better be a DAMN GOOD EXPLANATION FOR THIS:

    h t t p : / / rawstory.com/news/2008/Clinton_campaign_chair_photographed_holding_

  193. solis’s site says it is sponsored by the Clinton/Obama 08′. Is she doing this by herself or does she have the support of the candidates, dnc or just a few people with like ideas!

  194. I will never ever vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket so they better stop that idea right now. At the beginning of this election, I would have not thought twice but now? Hell no. Obama has attacked Hillary, lied about her, I am not even sure if he is even patriotic. Don’t forget his Wright and Rezko problems. I say no to that ticket. But that’s just me.

  195. Win4Hill, going to Paskistan doesn’t mean you are not patrotic so let us stop right there. There are Pakistanis who are good people so let us not lump crazy Pakistanis with the good Pakistanis who believe in democracy.

  196. Given his questionably ethical background, coupled with the fact that he went to a country with numerous pockets of radical Islamic militants, all while he was an impressionable college youth, and now consorts with the type of people that currently hate America?

    You’d better believe I’d question his “patriotism.”

  197. i wonder what common ground does pakisthan have with US.. pakisthan was under military rule most of the times.. still.. it is US ally and was viewed very favourbly in 60′, 70′, 80′, 90′

  198. Hillary just announced a breast ca. plan. She is just so good, she must get elected! Many poor people have died because they didn’t have the $100.00 for a mammogram. I, previously worked as a mammographer early in my career have seen countless poor people without insurance or the money to catch it early enough to be saved. It is by far, one of the worst ways to die!

  199. Here’s a link to the origins of the Clinton/Obamam BS.


  200. basil9, I have no clue if Hillary approved that Solis site. All I know is that I HATE the idea of a Clinton/Obama ticket.

  201. >>I wonder if they had those madrassa schools in Pakistan when he was there?

    you bet… they had back then… they have even now… they used to train them and send them to Kashmir, INDIA through the borders… texxrrorist infiltration from pakisthan was major national security issue till 2000 for INDIA…

  202. back in 99 musharaff was in INDIA meeting with Indian prime minister.. while he was in INDIA, pakisthan army started occupying the indian territory… we fuxked the bastxxrds… ran away back to their country.. India could have taken out the pakisthan in the war of 71… indian army advanced till lahore… and retreted back… fuxcking tiny nation pain in the butt…

  203. Caroline,

    It just seems odd if Solis, who was basically fired, put up a web site that she didn’t run by HRC. Don’t you think?

    When I went back on TM it said this guy Adam, who used to work for SOLIS, had put up the site.

    I don’t get it.

    But I agree – no BO for me! 😈

  204. I read that raisingkaine. If Patti SD and Adam P want to set up a site, that’s their choice. They don’t work for Hillary any more.

    I support Hillary; I don’t care what other people are doing.

  205. doesn’t it seem odd that Patti Solis-Doyle and Terry McAuliffe both are on the blogs today with BHO stuff?

    Like the kids at BHO ran out of Koolaid and while going through withdrawals manufactured this stuff?

  206. hey debbie, you said you were a field organizer for 15yrs. How did you get involve with that?

  207. filbertsf

    started very early working with local politicians and issue campaigns. got my name around just by being involved then got hired by CA Dem Party, been involved on various campaigns throughout the years and then started working with unions.

  208. basil9,

    I was on that TM thread. Funny, it’s like the Stages: denial, anger, etc — at least my own posts went through those. So far I’ve got to IF Hillary decided to renew her offer to let BO be her VP, she’d have good reason and could handle the situation.

  209. do you guys think the obamaniacs manufactured that pic and are on the blogs trying to set this up? I do think Hillary can handle BO as vice, if she is thinking about this she must think they can overcome the wright debacle, even though we think it is impossible

  210. I am watching Ellen right now and Hillary is great as usual. Ellen showed a picture of her and Tweety dancing and he kind of had his hands over her boobies and Ellen was kind of falling. WTF was that? Ellen looked very angry and kept saying it wasn’t right. What happened in that Tweety episode? I hate Tweety.

  211. I”m looking it up on Wiki. Demo: 83% white; Pop. of 23K; median income is $20K. So it’s a small, blue-collar town.

    Oh. What. Fun.

  212. filbert, where were you in pitbull texas, I had to laugh, i have 2 american pit bulls, they are the beautiful docile ones. they are my babies, they sleep with me, ride in the front seat of my truck, I am truly a texan!LOL!

  213. birdgal, it is. You’re right. I just called the Johnstown and the guy said it’s the heart of Murtha supporter.

    confloyd — I was in Austin. The neighborhood I’m talking about is in a district called Dove Springs and another one was called Riverside. I am told the neighborhoods I went to are very high-crime and low-income.

    To be honest, I found the people there very nice.

  214. Well, Johnstown is about 70miles from Pittsburgh, so if I can always move back and forth.

    I would prefer to go to the big cities like Philly, but you go where you’re needed, right?

  215. Geek, your video is amazing and summarizes what we have known the media to be doing for so long.

    Guys, the polls are tightening in PA, we need to continue to call PA.

  216. Sen. Clinton will be on Morning Joe tomorrow around 06:20 ET.

    Grey | 04.07.2008 – 4:46 pm | #
    Got this from Taylormarsh’s site

  217. I’m with Blue Dem; I can’t vote for McCain. Did you all see this on TM?

    Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c—.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

  218. Just wanted to put a plug in for Hillaryresponders. Joined recently and it is really great. They put in links and goals and tips for writing letters to the editor. They make it really easy to go out and advocate for HRC. Best thing is that they monitor all the blogs and mags, etc and send out an email w/ links so that you can go and comment easily. It is a really good way for people to help – especially people not that comfortable about making calls.

  219. “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c—.”

    Yeesh. If you talk to your wife that way…

    We’re all in a pickle aren’t we? Can’t vote for Obama and can’t vote for McCain.

  220. Of course, I just read on TM’s comments that the guy who wrote the book with that included is a Hillary hater and Obama lover. Hmmm…

  221. Just reading the posts from today.my two cents on Clinton/Obama..if it gets her the nomination I have no problem with it. Right now she is in a real fight to get there…I don’t think we should overreact to any suggestions of a joint ticket if that looks like the way she can get to the presidency.

  222. For those of you who are making videos and putting them on YouTube, do us all a favor and monitor the comments. If you don’t have the time, then turnoff the comment option.

    I get emails from pro-Hill people linking me to this or that YouTube clip they’ve or their friends’ have made. The clips are good, but the comments are lewd and insulting to Bill/Hill — obviously Rethuglicans or Obamabots.

  223. mj Says:

    April 7th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
    There is some blogger on Hill’s blog lashing out at her because she said Bush should skip the opening ceremonies in China of the olympics given China’s inaction on Darfur, and reprehensible activity in Tibet. Do you think this is just an Obama troll?

    Ummm, yeah, probably just a troll-bot.

  224. Good call-to-arms email from Maggie Williams, today:

    Dear Democrats,

    Please take the time to listen, as I have, to the voices of our fellow citizens in Michigan and Florida.

    A supporter from Marion, MI put it simply: “We want to have our voice heard! We want to vote!” Another in Delray Beach, FL reminded Americans of what we all believe, “Our votes should count. We went to the polls in good faith that our votes would count and our voices would be heard.”

    Tens of thousands of people in Michigan, Florida, and all over the country are standing up and speaking out, urging that we live up to our democratic ideals. In our hearts we know that voters everywhere deserve the chance to make their voices heard.

    Hillary Clinton respects all voters and their right to participate in this historic contest. Their votes, along with all the others, will and should determine when this contest is at an end. It’s the American way — everybody counts in this country.

    I know you will join with Americans everywhere who are proudly standing with their fellow citizens in making sure the great states of Michigan and Florida have a voice in this race — along with all the states who will cast their ballots in the upcoming months. Today is the day to step forward for democracy. Today is the day to sign on to make sure that all American voices are heard.

    Click here to show your support for seating Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention.

    Thank you for all you are doing for our country and for our campaign.


    Maggie Williams
    Campaign Manager

  225. Obama: “I know foreign countries better than Sens McCain & Clinton.

    In fact, I’m also a citizen of.. uh ….. whoops.”

    Axelrod announces Obama to give major policy address on the perils
    of dual citizenship.

  226. Don’t forget ..

    April 16th, pennsyvania presidential debate, ABC
    8pm pacific according to my tv schedule, this might be eastern time

    no word yet on date for NC

    Clinton Agrees to Debate Obama in NC
    3 days ago

    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama have both signed off on a Democratic debate in North Carolina. Now comes the debate over when to have it.

    Obama had previously agreed to debate his rival on April 19 in North Carolina. On Thursday, the Clinton campaign said she has agreed to a debate April 27, sponsored by CBS. North Carolina holds its primary on May 6.

    “We had proposed a debate in North Carolina before the 22nd of April,” said Obama spokesman Dan Leistikow. “Apparently, the Clinton folks vetoed that. We haven’t made a decision whether the later date fits into our schedule.”

    The two candidates have agreed to debate in Philadelphia on April 16, a few days before the Pennsylvania primary on April 22.

    The contenders have debated 20 times during the presidential campaign. Their last meetings were in Texas on Feb. 21 and Ohio on Feb. 26 ahead of those states’ primaries on March 4. Clinton won both contests.

  227. Jesus Mary & Joseph,

    Anybody see something wrong in these two headlines?

    ‘A less combative campaign’…

    NYT: Clinton’s Superdelegate Lead Continues To Dwindle…

  228. sorry guys…i don’t buy that McCain quote..3 reporters heard this and didn’t report it…yet they pass this along to some guy for his book..of course they don’t want to be named…nope no time for this crap…i know he has a temper..we all do and i know his is legendary….but if this were said about bill and hill we would be jumping up and down about it..

  229. Dean: Deal to seat Fla, Mich delegations unlikely before summer
    Posted by joosting April 06, 2008 15:44PM
    AP PhotoDNC Chairman Howard Dean, seen here during a March 27 interview, expressed confidence that an agreement would be reached to seat Michigan’s deledgates.
    WASHINGTON — A deal to allow delegates from Florida and Michigan to participate at the Democratic National Convention is unlikely before summer, party chief Howard Dean said Sunday.

    Dean said that was partly because presidential candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama want to focus on the coming round of contests. Next on the schedule are Pennsylvania on April 22 and Indiana and North Carolina on May 6, followed by several other states and U.S. territories. Voting ends June 3.

    But he continued to express confidence that an agreement would be reached to seat delegates from both states.

    “It’s going to take some time to work that out because these candidates are really focused on these primary battles in … Pennsylvania and West Virginia and North Carolina and so forth and so on,” Dean told “Face the Nation” on CBS. “And so it’s going to take some time to work this out.

    “But I think we can work it out, and I want to work it out,” he said.

    During a separate interview on ABC’s “This Week,” Dean said “I agree” when asked whether a solution will have to wait until after the last Democratic contests in South Dakota and Montana on June 3, and after the remaining superdelegates have said which candidate they support.

    The Democratic National Committee stripped Florida and Michigan of their convention delegates — a total of 366 — for holding primaries too early in the process, violating party rules. Clinton and Obama agreed not to campaign in either state, and Obama joined other candidates in removing their names from Michigan’s ballot.

    Clinton won both primaries, and she and her campaign have been pressing for those results to be recognized. Obama objects.

    Both states have abandoned plans to hold do-over contests but are demanding to be included in the process. Dean has had talks with officials from both states, but says Obama and Clinton must be part of any deal.

    The former first lady trails Obama both in the popular vote and in the pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses, and has said she will take her fight for the nomination to the August convention in Denver if necessary.

    Dean also has urged the superdelegates — the nearly 800 elected and other Democratic officials who are free to vote for whomever they choose — to take a position soon after the voting ends to avoid a convention fight. More than half the superdelegates have said which candidate they will support.

    With only two candidates remaining, Dean said the nominee should be evident by June 1.

    “Unless this is a dead heat, there’s no reason to go to Denver, if the unpledged delegates will make their preferences clear and the voters will make their preferences clear, which they will by the third of June, then we’ll know who our nominee is and we can win,” Dean said on CBS.

  230. Anbritt,

    You’re right. Not that McCain couldn’t have said it.

    But the plague that has become of anonymous quotes is so under-the-radar and so dangerous.

    Just look at how many bogus stories on Hill haven’t been sourced
    and have dominated news cycles.

    Our corrupted media has made the critical matter of directly sourcing information obsolete. The alternative?

    Some one just has to say it – or think of it – or WANT IT OUT THERE – and print it/broadcast it.

  231. ambritt… it might accurate. Remember his reaction to a supporter calling Hillary a bitch? He laughed.

    He’s from an era where women should just be seen and not heard.

  232. Lest We Forget: An open letter to my sisters who are brave.
    By Alice Walker

    The author argues that we must build alliances not on ethnicity or
    gender, but on truth.

    March 27, 2008

    I HAVE COME home from a long stay in Mexico to find – because of the
    presidential campaign, and especially because of the Obama/Clinton
    race for the Democratic nomination – a new country existing alongside
    the old. On any given day we, collectively, become the Goddess of the
    Three Directions and can look back into the past, look at ourselves
    just where we are, and take a glance, as well, into the future. It is
    a space with which I am familiar.

    When I was born in 1944 my parents lived on a middle Georgia
    plantation that was owned by a white distant relative, Miss May
    Montgomery. (During my childhood it was necessary to address all white
    girls as “Miss” when they reached the age of twelve.) She would never
    admit to this relationship, of course, except to mock it. Told by my
    parents that several of their children would not eat chicken skin she
    responded that of course they would not. No Montgomerys would.

    My parents and older siblings did everything imaginable for Miss May.
    They planted and raised her cotton and corn, fed and killed and
    processed her cattle and hogs, painted her house, patched her roof,
    ran her dairy, and, among countless other duties and responsibilities
    my father was her chauffeur, taking her anywhere she wanted to go at
    any hour of the day or night. She lived in a large white house with
    green shutters and a green, luxuriant lawn: not quite as large as
    Tara of Gone With the Wind fame, but in the same style.

    We lived in a shack without electricity or running water, under a
    rusty tin roof that let in wind and rain. Miss May went to school as
    a girl. The school my parents and their neighbors built for us was
    burned to the ground by local racists who wanted to keep ignorant
    their competitors in tenant farming. During the Depression, desperate
    to feed his hardworking family, my father asked for a raise from ten
    dollars a month to twelve. Miss May responded that she would not pay
    that amount to a white man and she certainly wouldn’t pay it to a
    nigger. That before she’d pay a nigger that much money she’d milk the
    dairy cows herself.

    When I look back, this is part of what I see. I see the school bus
    carrying white children, boys and girls, right past me, and my
    brothers, as we trudge on foot five miles to school. Later, I see my
    parents struggling to build a school out of discarded army barracks
    while white students, girls and boys, enjoy a building made of brick.
    We had no books; we inherited the cast off books that “Jane” and
    “Dick” had previously used in the all-white school that we were not,
    as black children, permitted to enter.

    The year I turned fifty, one of my relatives told me she had started
    reading my books for children in the library in my home town. I had
    had no idea – so kept from black people it had been – that such a
    place existed. To this day knowing my presence was not wanted in the
    public library when I was a child I am highly uncomfortable in
    libraries and will rarely, unless I am there to help build, repair,
    refurbish or raise money to keep them open, enter their doors.

    When I joined the freedom movement in Mississippi in my early twenties
    it was to come to the aid of sharecroppers, like my parents, who had
    been thrown off the land they’d always known, the plantations, because
    they attempted to exercise their “democratic” right to vote. I wish I
    could say white women treated me and other black people a lot better
    than the men did, but I cannot. It seemed to me then and it seems to
    me now that white women have copied, all too often, the behavior of
    their fathers and their brothers, and in the South, especially in
    Mississippi , and before that, when I worked to register voters in
    Georgia , the broken bottles thrown at my head were gender free.

    I made my first white women friends in college; they were women who
    loved me and were loyal to our friendship, but I understood, as they
    did, that they were white women and that whiteness mattered. That,
    for instance, at Sarah Lawrence, where I was speedily inducted into
    the Board of Trustees practically as soon as I graduated, I made my
    way to the campus for meetings by train, subway and foot, while the
    other trustees, women and men, all white, made their way by limo.
    Because, in our country, with its painful history of unspeakable
    inequality, this is part of what whiteness means. I loved my school
    for trying to make me feel I mattered to it, but because of my
    relative poverty I knew I could not.

    I am a supporter of Obama because I believe he is the right person to
    lead the country at this time. He offers a rare opportunity for the
    country and the world to start over, and to do better. It is a deep
    sadness to me that many of my feminist white women friends cannot see
    him. Cannot see what he carries in his being. Cannot hear the fresh
    choices toward Movement he offers. That they can believe that millions
    of Americans -black, white, yellow, red and brown – choose Obama over
    Clinton only because he is a man, and black, feels tragic to me.

    When I have supported white people, men and women, it was because I
    thought them the best possible people to do whatever the job required.
    Nothing else would have occurred to me. If Obama were in any sense
    mediocre, he would be forgotten by now. He is, in fact, a remarkable
    human being, not perfect but humanly stunning, like King was and like
    Mandela is. We look at him, as we looked at them, and are glad to be
    of our species. He is the change America has been trying desperately
    and for centuries to hide, ignore, kill. The change America must have
    if we are to convince the rest of the world that we care about people
    other than our (white) selves.

    True to my inner Goddess of the Three Directions however, this does
    not mean I agree with everything Obama stands for. We differ on
    important points probably because I am older than he is, I am a woman
    and person of three colors, (African, Native American, European), I
    was born and raised in the American South, and when I look at the
    earth’s people, after sixty-four years of life, there is not one
    person I wish to see suffer, no matter what they have done to me or to
    anyone else; though I understand quite well the place of suffering,
    often, in human growth.

    I want a grown-up attitude toward Cuba , for instance, a country and a
    people I love; I want an end to the embargo that has harmed my friends
    and their children, children who, when I visit Cuba , trustingly turn
    their faces up for me to kiss. I agree with a teacher of mine, Howard
    Zinn, that war is as objectionable as cannibalism and slavery; it is
    beyond obsolete as a means of improving life. I want an end to the
    on-going war immediately and I want the soldiers to be encouraged to
    destroy their weapons and to drive themselves out of Iraq

    I want the Israeli government to be made accountable for its behavior
    towards the Palestinians, and I want the people of the United States
    to cease acting like they don’t understand what is going on. All
    colonization, all occupation, all repression basically looks the same,
    whoever is doing it. Here our heads cannot remain stuck in the sand;
    our future depends of our ability to study, to learn, to understand
    what is in the records and what is before our eyes. But most of all I
    want someone with the self-confidence to talk to anyone, “enemy” or
    “friend,” and this Obama has shown he can do. It is difficult to
    understand how one could vote for a person who is afraid to sit and
    talk to another human being. When you vote you are making someone a
    proxy for yourself; they are to speak when, and in places, you cannot.
    But if they find talking to someone else, who looks just like them,
    human, impossible, then what good is your vote?

    It is hard to relate what it feels like to see Mrs. Clinton (I wish
    she felt self-assured enough to use her own name) referred to as “a
    woman” while Barack Obama is always referred to as “a black man.” One
    would think she is just any woman, colorless, race-less, past-less,
    but she is not. She carries all the history of white womanhood in
    America in her person; it would be a miracle if we, and the world, did
    not react to this fact. How dishonest it is, to attempt to make her
    innocent of her racial inheritance.

    I can easily imagine Obama sitting down and talking, person to person,
    with any leader, woman, man, child or common person, in the world,
    with no baggage of past servitude or race supremacy to mar their
    talks. I cannot see the same scenario with Mrs. Clinton who would
    drag into Twenty-First Century American leadership the same image of
    white privilege and distance from the reality of others’ lives that
    has so marred our country’s contacts with the rest of the world.

    And yes, I would adore having a woman president of the United States .
    My choice would be Representative Barbara Lee, who alone voted in
    Congress five years ago not to make war on Iraq . That to me is
    leadership, morality, and courage; if she had been white I would have
    cheered just as hard. But she is not running for the highest office
    in the land, Mrs. Clinton is. And because Mrs. Clinton is a woman and
    because she may be very good at what she does, many people, including
    some younger women in my own family, originally favored her over
    Obama. I understand this, almost. It is because, in my own nieces’
    case, there is little memory, apparently, of the foundational
    inequities that still plague people of color and poor whites in this
    country. Why, even though our family has been here longer than most
    North American families – and only partly due to the fact that we have
    Native American genes – we very recently, in my lifetime, secured the
    right to vote, and only after numbers of people suffered and died for it.

    When I offered the word “Womanism” many years ago, it was to give us a
    tool to use, as feminist women of color, in times like these. These
    are the moments we can see clearly, and must honor devotedly, our
    singular path as women of color in the United States . We are not
    white women and this truth has been ground into us for centuries,
    often in brutal ways. But neither are we inclined to follow a black
    person, man or woman, unless they demonstrate considerable courage,
    intelligence, compassion and substance. I am delighted that so many
    women of color support Barack Obama -and genuinely proud of the many
    young and old white women and men who do.

    Imagine, if he wins the presidency we will have not one but three
    black women in the White House; one tall, two somewhat shorter;
    none of them carrying the washing in and out of the back door. The
    bottom line for most of us is: With whom do we have a better chance
    of surviving the madness and fear we are presently enduring, and with
    whom do we wish to set off on a journey of new possibility? In other
    words, as the Hopi elders would say: Who do we want in the boat with
    us as we head for the rapids? Who is likely to know how best to share
    the meager garden produce and water? We are advised by the Hopi
    elders to celebrate this time, whatever its adversities.

    We have come a long way, Sisters, and we are up to the challenges of
    our time. One of which is to build alliances based not on race,
    ethnicity, color, nationality, sexual preference or gender, but on
    Truth. Celebrate our journey. Enjoy the miracle we are witnessing.
    Do not stress over its outcome. Even if Obama becomes president, our
    country is in such ruin it may well be beyond his power to lead us
    toward rehabilitation. If he is elected however, we must,
    individually and collectively, as citizens of the planet, insist on
    helping him do the best job that can be done; more, we must insist
    that he demand this of us. It is a blessing that our mothers taught us
    not to fear hard work. Know, as the Hopi elders declare: The river has
    its destination. And remember, as poet June Jordan and Sweet Honey in
    the Rock never tired of telling us: We are the ones we have been
    waiting for.


    And with all my love,

    Alice Walker

    This is an e-mail I stumbled upon. Can you believe this type of bullshit is circulating around the African-American community??? Utter bullshit!!

  233. Howard Dean is a BIG FAT LIAR and a COWARD!!!!

    They thought Hillary would be a good little girl and let the DNC and party elites walk all over her, but she is not doing it and neither is her supporters.

    Yes, we have to work harder and deal with all this crap from are own party but this is a courageous fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic party.

    Too many people are counting on Hillary and us to fight for them and I will not be intimidated of demeaned or dismissed for my choice in candidate.

    That’s why I love Winston Churchill quote:
    I have always felt that a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents.

  234. Campbell withdraws Obama endorsement
    Posted on April 7

    By JODI RAVE of the Missoulian
    Montana Democratic Party vice chairwoman Margaret Campbell on Monday said she would officially withdraw her superdelegate endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama.

    The Montana Democratic Party was expected to release a statement Monday, said spokesman Kevin O’Brien.

    Even though the Illinois senator best represented her Democratic ideals, Campbell said, she told an Obama staffer on Sunday she needed to talk with voters, including tribal leaders, before making a public endorsement. The aide tried to dissuade her, Campbell said. Later in the day, the staffer told Campbell a national press reporter had already moved forward with the story.

    “The New York Times jumped the gun,” Campbell said. An online version of the Monday New York Times failed to mention Campbell’s endorsement.

    On Monday, Campbell said not only was she withholding an Obama endorsement, but that Montana Democratic Party rules prohibit her from endorsing a candidate until after the state’s June 3 primary. Montana Democratic Party Rule 10 specifies that the party’s vice chair – as well as the chair, executive director and paid staff – “shall maintain neutrality during primary elections for any office sought by more than one Democratic candidate.”

    Campbell is one of eight superdelegates in Montana. Overall, 795 superdelegates around the country typically can endorse a presidential candidate anytime throughout the campaign process. While most delegates are bound to support voters’ majority candidate, superdelegates can vote the way they please.

    Campbell, who lives in Poplar, is in a unique position because she holds an elected state position.

    Sens. Obama and Hillary Clinton both pressed her for an endorsement after each presidential candidate stumped for the public vote in Montana during a weekend of dinners, fundraisers and rallies. Both candidates gave speeches at the Montana Democratic Party’s annual Mansfield-Metcalf dinner in Butte on Saturday.

    On Sunday, Clinton called Campbell on her cell phone while she was driving back to her home on the Fort Peck Reservation. “She said she knew I had a tough decision to make,” Campbell said. The call included discussion of Campbell’s superdelegate vote.

    Earlier that morning, Campbell ate breakfast with three Obama staff members at an IHOP restaurant in Butte. She initially agreed to endorse Obama before deciding she needed more time.


  235. Everyone knows this is a non-story BM is running with, Penn will still contribute and the Clintons are the strategists, always have been.
    I hadn’t seen they were both pissed at Penn until this:

    Hillary and Bill Clinton forced out Mark Penn yesterday after the campaign’s chief strategist admitted meeting with Colombian officials to push for a trade agreement she opposes.
    On Friday, The Wall Street Journal reported that Penn met with representatives from Colombia’s government in his capacity as chief executive of Burson-Marsteller public relations firm on March 31 to push the Colombian Free Trade Agreement through Congress. Penn later apologized, calling it an “error in judgment.”
    Penn – who infuriated many other Clinton advisers by refusing to quit his private-sector job during the campaign – was given his walking papers by the angry Clintons over the weekend, campaign insiders said.
    “They made it clear it was time for him to go,” said a top staffer on condition of anonymity. “So he did the honorable thing.”
    Sources told Newsday that the Colombia story was the last straw for Bill Clinton, a longtime Penn defender who had for months resisted calls to replace the pollster after a series of embarrassing episodes and questionable advice.

  236. Hi everyone,

    Alice Walker could teach Leni Rifenstahl a thing or two. What a bunch of propaganda.

    Just checking in to say hello.

  237. Three Democratic power players — Kerry, Casey and Rendell — take time Sunday to tout their presidential candidates.
    %%headline%%BIG BACKERS
    Monday, April 07, 2008
    Of The Patriot-News
    Nearly four years ago, Sen. John Kerry stood outside the Capitol in Harrisburg, telling an estimated 20,000 supporters why they should make him their president.

    Sunday’s return visit to the midstate, which included two stops in Carlisle and one in West Hanover Twp., was a bit different.

    Stumping for Sen. Barack Obama, his appearance at the Local 520 union hall in West Hanover attracted about 50 people, most of them union members and Obama volunteers. Earlier in the day, Kerry had stopped at Obama’s Carlisle field office and mingled with supporters at a luncheon at Cumberland County’s Democratic headquarters.

    “We try to do these smaller events on purpose so people really have the opportunity to talk with them,” said Debbie Mesloh, an Obama spokeswoman.

    Now a surrogate for Obama’s presidential campaign instead of the Democratic nominee for president, Kerry is making his pitch without the spotlight that followed him in 2004.
    Hillary connects with people and no matter how hard obama goes out there and says he’s the fighter for the middle class, his values and actions says he’s for the elites and the haves. Too many times his actions went opposite the middle class and look at his team of advisors.

  238. Alice Walker: Hmmm…. Hillary gets slammed, when she doesn’t use Clinton, and when she does. What a screwed up world, we live in.

  239. filbertsf Says:

    April 7th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
    carby, thanks for the article. Finally some positive news.
    filbertsf there is positive news out there IF you go out and look for it or make your own.

    Don’t let the MSM propaganda mess with your head. You must be strong and tune out the crap and if you can’t do that then don’t listen because Obama is the establishment DNC candidate from the Howard Dean wing of the party.

  240. KEVIN ALEXANDER GRAY: Obama is being praised too much
    The Progressive Media Project

    The praise for Sen. Barack Obama is getting over the top. Novelist Alice Walker recently said that Obama is “our Mandela.” And after a recent Obama speech, I heard people say he was “a cross between Martin Luther King and Jackie Robinson.”

    To me, he’s more reminiscent of Tiger Woods: He wants to wear the green jacket and be part of the club but he’s not going to change the rules of the game.

    Until the controversy broke about his ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama himself frequently played the race card – on black people.

    Just before the Texas and Ohio primaries, Obama was speaking to a mostly black audience and said, “I know some of ya’ll, you got that cold Popeye’s out for breakfast. I know. That’s why ya’ll laughing. … You can’t do that. Children have to have proper nutrition.”

    In South Carolina, he told the state Legislative Black Caucus that a good economic development plan in the black community would be “cleaning up the garbage.”

    Now, if white politicians had said these things they would have been pummeled.

    And even in his much-heralded speech, Obama went out of his way to criticize welfare, decry “the erosion of black families” and stress the need for black fathers to spend more time with their kids.

    This Bill Cosby routine goes down well with white voters, but it further stigmatizes blacks.

    And while Obama gets points for not tossing his church pastor under the bus, he loses points for running away from the critique of American empire-building and oppression that his pastor offered.

  241. fillbertsf- it or maynot be accurate…but until some reporter puts his/her name to the story…its not going anywhere its so radioactive. why even peddle in that sewer..i am not saying he is a saint…btw are you in cali..i am assuming sf stands for the bay area? i am in socal

  242. who is willing to have 4 more years of: Iraq, paychecks shrinking in this economy, being unliked around the world, record high poverty and uninsured, the middle class disappearing, environmental disaster, loss of constitutional freedoms. corporate give aways and on and on.

    Would I be angry enough to wait should BHO be the nominee? thats what we are up against. this is what each campaign will be telling us if we don’t unite.

    I seriously had to ask myself this question and the truth is I’d rather have McCain than Obama, and yes I’d be willing to wait.

    should BHO becomes the nominee, I will take that day to re-register as an independent (I may do this either way) then I will write in Hillary’s name in November.

  243. “Every voter in Michigan and Florida will remember that Dean/Obama/Brazile have done everything possible to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan voters.”

    Yeah and you know how they will remember IF Hillary doesn’t get that nomination only because those states aren’t counted? Because I will do everything in my power to make sure they remember!!!

  244. If a HillStar volunteer from Arlington, VA had looked at his assigned 2 counties in Iowa and responded

    “Oh. What. Fun.”

    I would not have ever met one of the smartest, strongest and calmest Hillary supporters in the country.

    And I would not have been able to handle my precinct duties, much less track what was going on in the county, without his help, leading up to and through the caucuses, where we had a 300 % increase in attendence.

    I won’t even tell you the demos of this town, home to Hillary Swank’s family, Peggy Whitson, who has been orbiting over our heads for months as the spacelab commander, Dr.Harley Wilhelm, one of the most famous original members of the famed Manhatten Project, and many others; if I did, I know for sure you would think,

    “Oh. What. Fun.”

    You know what I think?

    “Oh. What. A. Snob.”

    If you are looking to be a Superstar Superman/Supergirl Savior of the campaign, go see a therapist.

  245. I just got asked by email about other states that weren’t penalized for doing what FL/MI did. Does anyone know offhand, and/or have the link for the transript of the DNC meeting where FL was judged and sentenced by Brazile et al?

    > Hey–I keep getting asked— Hillary said on Leno the other night that two
    > other states had moved up their primaries without being penalized–
    > Do you know which state and why DIDN”T they get
    > punished (since FL and MI did) do you know?

  246. 1950Dem,
    NH and SC. DNC sanctioned. you’ll have to go google to get the exact particulars but I think it had something to do w/ maintaining their place in line.

  247. 1950democrat,

    We have links at The 48 State Strategy, Part II


    The pdf file letter from Senator Levin has a lot of the answers:


    Iowa, New Hampshire were the other 2 states that “broke the rules” but did not get punished. South Carolina changed its date too.

    The video of the Brazile meeting where Florida was dumped is here:

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