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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

Barack Obama Diagnosis: Floriphobia and Michiphobia

Breaking News: In a failed attempt to revive his flagging spirits and droopy hopes with a retreat to the Virgin Islands, Barack Obama is also fighting a deadly case of Floriphobia and Michiphobia complicated with a virulent case of Wrightspepsia.

The onset of Floriphobia and Michiphobia as well as the Wrightspepsia was triggered by increasing public notice of “disconnects” between what Obama said before a certain “race” speech and what Obama said during the speech.

Extra incense is being burned round-the-clock in large bronze braziers by grieving acolytes in hopes of warding off an Obama collapse.

Early yesterday afternoon Obama’s Floriphobia was briefly immunized from the effects of a particularly vicious case of Wrightspepsia.

An anticipated appearance in a Tampa, Fla., church by Barack Obama’s former pastor and spiritual adviser — his first since his inflammatory sermons drew national scrutiny — has been canceled due to security concerns, according to the senior pastor at the church.

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. had been expected to speak at the Bible-Based Fellowship Church of Temple Terrace for three nights starting Tuesday evening. [snip]

Mason said the church was under no pressure from the Obama campaign to cancel the appearance.

However, the Wrightspepsia flared up stronger than ever later in the afternoon aggravating Obama’s Floriphobia as well as his Michiphobia.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, in a wide-ranging interview today with Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporters and editors, said she would have left her church if her pastor made the sort of inflammatory remarks Sen. Barack Obama’s former pastor made.

“He would not have been my pastor,” Clinton said. “You don’t choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend.” [snip]

The Clinton campaign had refrained from getting involved in the Wright controversy, but Clinton herself, responding to a question this morning, denounced what she said was “hate speech.”

“You know, I spoke out against Don Imus (who was fired from his radio and television shows after making racially insensitive remarks), saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that,” Clinton said. “I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving.”

Doctors on the scene applied cold compresses to Obama’s forehead as he feverisly mumbled “No way I can win Florida or Michigan now.” and “No Florida or Michigan delegates would make a nomination illegitimate.” “Ohh, Ohh.”

More incense was ordered burned.

The feverish Obama had to be restrained and strapped to bed when he overheard an incense burner suggest that the Wrightspepsia might flare up as a topic of discussion in a debate scheduled a few days before the Pennsylvania elections. Doctors fear onset of Pennsyphobia to further complicate an already complicated prognosis.

Medical professionals at Big Pink, a compassionate website, recommended a temporary treatment (below) for Michiphobia to the Obama worship team. No known cure, other than a fair representation of Florida voters, for Floriphobia and the complications caused by Wrightspepsia are known.

1,143 comments to Barack Obama Diagnosis: Floriphobia and Michiphobia

  • admin

    The newspaper interview:

  • mj

    I still want to know about that Tiffany’s purchase. Something doesnt smell right.

  • confloyd

    what do you mean mj, his whole candidacy doesn’t smell right, actually? This man scares the dickens out of me, maybe cuz I am a “typical white person”!

  • Irish1139

    They are killing Hillary on that Bosnia deal. I cannot believe the pundits have made such a big deal of it. Why can everybody else misspeak but Hillary can’t?

    Obama has lied through his teeth about almost everything but no one harasses him. The assholes won’t let it go. I would like to slap Anderson Cooper in the mouth. How could one statement negate her experience. Everyone knows about 9/11, Ireland, Bosnia, Katrina, China, etc. That is on the record and there are witnesses. How can they carry on like this and insinuate that she has no experience.

    I am so sick of these hateful men. I know it is because she is a woman and she rarely makes a mistake. But when she does, Oh My God, they are all over her.

    I cannot wait until this election is over with. I am sick of looking at Obama. I can’t even keep my TV on when he is on. I can’t stand to look at him. He gives me the creeps.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    Irish1139: I’m with you. I get the same reaction with Obama as I do with Bush. I can’t hear either of them speak and I immediately turn the channel when they come on.
    I want this election to end and in some ways I would rather put up with 8 more months of Obama in order to see him lose to McCain and not have to see him again for the next 4-8 years. I’m sick of the media and the Obamabots ganging on Clinton. It’s unbearable to watch. I wonder how she does it. I really wouldn’t be surprised if she cries regularly in private. How can anyone deal with this sh*t on a daily basis for years and years? It’s unimaginable. I would’ve quit by now.
    Obama is weak. He can’t even take this scrutiny without having to take a vacation in the Virgin Islands. Hillary rarely ever takes vacations. She’s constantly working day and night. She really is the one more qualified and capabale of answering that 3am phone call.
    Anglachel has another great post up: http://www.anglachelg.blogspot.com

  • rickroberts

    I’m with you, Irish. I’m just ready for it to be over, but I’ll keep sending Hill money until it IS over. If, after all this, Obama is the nominee, the DNC gets nothing from me. I will check out and stay out. It wasn’t supposed to be like this.

  • Berkeley Vox

    AWESOME post! Love it, admin.

    Another Michigan tune, from the Red Hot Chili Peppers:

    youtube.com/watch?v=zFxvJDi1HB4

  • warehouse553

    Listen up everybody,

    The new polls that came out today in PA and NC are meaningless. She will win PA! By how much is the question! It will be by more than 10 points. We must run the numbers up so that Hillary gets a 20 to 30 point victory! Its very possible. GOTV is the key! A 4 to 500,000 point win would seriously damage Obama. NC would then lean Hillary’s way and Indiana would fall! If she can overtake him with the popular vote without Florida or Michigan, his candidacy will be seen as an affirmative action choice and illegitimate! Hillary will be the defacto nominee because she won more votes and have a claim in 2012.

    If Obama steals the nomination, then we have to work to defeat him. Moveon.org and the Daily Kos cannot be allowed to take control of the Democratic Party!

  • Berkeley Vox

    That earlier email, from Bill Clinton:
    ——————

    Dear Democrats,

    You and I both want Hillary to win. So let me be frank about the challenge our campaign faces right now.

    It couldn’t be any simpler than this: we cannot be competitive politically unless we are competitive financially — and right now we are at a financial disadvantage. The Obama campaign is already spending more than $1 million on an aggressive ad buy in Pennsylvania. For us to win, we have to:

    * Fund critical voter contact efforts in Pennsylvania.
    * Get our ads on the air in Pennsylvania’s six separate media markets to avoid being overwhelmed by a $1 million, four-day Obama campaign TV ad blitz.
    * Produce a massive get-out-the-vote effort as April 22 approaches.
    * Put more resources into our campaign in Indiana, Kentucky, North Carolina, Oregon, Puerto Rico, and West Virginia so that we can capitalize on our momentum coming out of Pennsylvania.

    Despite the spirited support from Hillary’s best supporters, including you, we are still being outraised and outspent by the Obama campaign. He outspent us by more than $10 million in February alone. Let’s close the gap so Hillary can win in Pennsylvania, keep on winning, and be our next president.

    Your contribution of $50 came right as we needed it, and I would not ask again if it were not so important. Will you renew your commitment to our victory today with a $75 gift?

    Contribute today to help Hillary win.

    Just like Hillary, you’ve worked hard to get us this far. We cannot let up our efforts now and let this race be decided by a shortfall of funds.

    One thing I know for sure about Hillary — if we give her the support she needs, she will never let us down, not as a candidate and not as president. She’ll work just as hard for you in the White House as she is on the campaign trail.

    Let’s match Hillary’s efforts with our own. Contribute to help us raise as much as we can by midnight tonight.

    I appreciate everything you are doing for Hillary so much. Let’s keep working and winning.

    Sincerely,
    Bill Clinton

  • terrondt

    i will donate again but i wish they would keep the money bar up for a goal. as for obama skippin the country he is nuttin but a scary cat.

  • winhillary

    Hey guys I guess there is this can drive going on with young hill supporters, they are sending cans to the dnc for the message of “can” we get a revote for michigan and Florida, well it sounds good to me but the question is what kind of cans and I would think maybe empty ones at that. If you know anything about this respond with info please if not I will get the info and blog the bleep out of this site and others and ask you to do the same and start sending the dnc crap loads of cans! thanks!

  • wbboei

    Analyzing Obama’s Behavior from a Psychological Perspective

    ——————————————————————————–

    I am a Dr. of Psychology and thought you guys might find this helpful. I believe since BO has been attending Wrights Church for 20 years he is both racist and does not think much of America. He has another agenda. There is a term in Psychology called: Reaction Formation. It is when one goes to the opposite of what he is really feeling or doing. For example giving a speech on racial issues while one attends a church that is clearly racist. This means that we can look at many of what he is doing and saying realizing that perhaps he feels just the opposite.

    Here are some definitions:
    Reaction Formation occurs when a person feels an urge to do or say something and then actually does or says something that is effectively the opposite of what they really want. It also appears as a defense against a feared social punishment. If I fear that I will be criticized for something, I very visibly act in a way that shows I am personally a long way from the feared position.

    A common pattern in Reaction Formation is where the person uses ‘excessive behavior’, for example using exaggerated friendliness when the person is actually feeling unfriendly.

    Example
    A person who is angry with a colleague actually ends up being particularly courteous and friendly towards them.

    A man who is gay has a number of conspicuous heterosexual affairs and openly criticizes gays.

    A mother who has a child she does not want becomes very protective of the child.

    An alcoholic extols the virtues of abstinence.

    Discussion
    A cause of Reaction Formation is when a person seeks to cover up something unacceptable by adopting an opposite stance. For example the gay person who has heterosexually promiscuous may be concealing their homosexual reality. This may be a conscious concealment but also may well occur at the subconscious level such that they do not realize the real cause of their behavior. Reaction Formation thus can turn homosexual tendencies (love men) to homophobic ones (hate men).

    Freud called the exaggerated compensation that can appear in Reaction Formation ‘overboarding’ as the person is going overboard in one direction to distract from and cover up something unwanted in the other direction, such as a person who fears war becoming a pacifist, convincing themselves that war is wrong (rather than the ‘cowardly’ position that war is scary).

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  • texan4hillary

    the jewish repubs are calling obama out. and where is the adl etc?
    thehill.com/campaign-2008/republican-jewish-group-wants-obama-adviser-removed-2008-03-25.html

  • djia

    maybe this will cheer y’all up a little 😀

    How Bad is it For Obama in Pennsylvania?

    ust how bad is documented by some key findings from a series of polls, including the Franklin and Marshal College Poll, all released recently. Almost none of the results bode well for Obama. Across the board Clinton is winning and winning big. She has decisively stopped Obama’s earlier momentum in Pennsylvania–and seems set for a romp.

    Statewide among Democrats, Clinton holds a lead that ranges from 16 to 26 points. The Real Clear Politics consensus estimate is roughly 16 points. She is winning every major region of the state except Philadelphia, while Obama has actually slipped slightly with blacks and more substantially with younger voters–two demographics that are critical backstops for him in the contest. He has also lost support with other key constituencies including white males and evangelicals.

    Moreover Clinton is seen by voters as the overwhelming favorite to deal with the economy and healthcare, two of the three issues Pennsylvania voters care most about, and she is virtually tied with Obama as the candidate voters most support to end the war.

    Clinton has established her lead by accomplishing three critical campaign objectives: successfully appealing to several important voter groups, maintaining support across most major regions of the state, and convincing most voters she will deliver on the critical issues.

    Appeal among Key Groups of Likely Voters: Clinton leads among women (57% to 29%), whites (57% to 29%), ages 55 and older (55% to 29%), union member households (67% to 26%), and Born Again Christians (45% to 38%). She also leads among Catholics (26 points) and Protestants (23 points). Obama has the clear edge only among non-whites (76% to 12%). Obama and Clinton are tied or virtually tied (within sampling error) among younger, college-educated, and male voters. (Source: Franklin & Marshall College Poll)

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/how_bad_is_it_for_obama_in_pen.html

  • djia

    God Bless Phil Singer 😀

    on a conference call he is quoted as saying

    “When it comes to voting, Senator Obama has turned the audacity of hope into the audacity of nope,”

  • winhillary

    Here is a video from the 90’s talking about hillarys trip and the importance behind it. Please post this all over the place.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pef5AUt-tic

  • Kingsgrove

    Hillary talks about Gulf Coast with Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. She answers a question about hurricane recovery from publisher Richard Mellon Scaife

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nO0qyJrvLc

  • wbboei

    Here is some good ammo from mydd if the discussion turn to the subject of misspeaking, courtesy of mydd

    -Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama’s Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements
    Once again, the Obama campaign is getting caught saying one thing while doing another. They are personally attacking Hillary even though Sen. Obama has been found mispeaking and embellishing facts about himself more than ten times in recent months. Senator Obama’s campaign is based on words -not a record of deeds – and if those words aren’t backed up by facts, there’s not much else left.
    “Senator Obama has called himself a constitutional professor, claimed credit for passing legislation that never left committee, and apparently inflated his role as a community organizer among other issues. When it comes to his record, just words won’t do. Senator Obama will have to use facts as well,” Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.
    Sen. Obama consistently and falsely claims that he was a law professor. The Sun-Times reported that, “Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama’s primary [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter.” In academia, there’s a significant difference: professors have tenure while lecturers do not. [Hotline Blog, 4/9/07; Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/04]
    Obama claimed credit for nuclear leak legislation that never passed. “Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was ‘the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.’ ‘I just did that last year,’ he said, to murmurs of approval. A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks. Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama’s comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate.” [New York Times, 2/2/08]
    Obama misspoke about his being conceived because of Selma. “Mr. Obama relayed a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: ‘I meant the whole civil rights movement.'” [New York Times, 3/5/07]
    LA Times: Fellow organizers say Sen. Obama took too much credit for his community organizing efforts. “As the 24-year-old mentor to public housing residents, Obama says he initiated and led efforts that thrust Altgeld’s asbestos problem into the headlines, pushing city officials to call hearings and a reluctant housing authority to start a cleanup. But others tell the story much differently. They say Obama did not play the singular role in the asbestos episode that he portrays in the best-selling memoir ‘Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.’ Credit for pushing officials to deal with the cancer-causing substance, according to interviews and news accounts from that period, also goes to a well-known preexisting group at Altgeld Gardens and to a local newspaper called the Chicago Reporter. Obama does not mention either one in his book.” [Los Angeles Times, 2/19/07]
    Chicago Tribune: Obama’s assertion that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing ‘strains credulity.’ “…Obama has been too self-exculpatory. His assertion in network TV interviews last week that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing strains credulity: Tribune stories linked Rezko to questionable fundraising for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in 2004 — more than a year before the adjacent home and property purchases by the Obamas and the Rezkos.” [Chicago Tribune editorial, 1/27/08]
    Obama was forced to revise his assertion that lobbyists ‘won’t work in my White House.’ “White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was forced to revise a critical stump line of his on Saturday — a flat declaration that lobbyists ‘won’t work in my White House’ after it turned out his own written plan says they could, with some restrictions… After being challenged on the accuracy of what he has been saying — in contrast to his written pledge — at a news conference Saturday in Waterloo, Obama immediately softened what had been his hard line in his next stump speech.” [Chicago Sun-Times, 12/16/07]
    FactCheck.org: ‘Selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers pump up Obama’s health plan.’ “Obama’s ad touting his health care plan quotes phrases from newspaper articles and an editorial, but makes them sound more laudatory and authoritative than they actually are. It attributes to The Washington Post a line saying Obama’s plan would save families about $2,500. But the Post was citing the estimate of the Obama campaign and didn’t analyze the purported savings independently. It claims that “experts” say Obama’s plan is “the best.” “Experts” turn out to be editorial writers at the Iowa City Press-Citizen – who, for all their talents, aren’t actual experts in the field. It quotes yet another newspaper saying Obama’s plan “guarantees coverage for all Americans,” neglecting to mention that, as the article makes clear, it’s only Clinton’s and Edwards’ plans that would require coverage for everyone, while Obama’s would allow individuals to buy in if they wanted to.” [FactCheck.org, 1/3/08]
    Sen. Obama said ‘I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage,’ but Obama health care legislation merely set up a task force. “As a state senator, I brought Republicans and Democrats together to pass legislation insuring 20,000 more children. And 65,000 more adults received health care…And I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage.” The State Journal-Register reported in 2004 that “The [Illinois State] Senate squeaked out a controversial bill along party lines Wednesday to create a task force to study health-care reform in Illinois. […] In its original form, the bill required the state to offer universal health care by 2007. That put a ‘cloud’ over the legislation, said Sen. Dale Righter, R-Mattoon. Under the latest version, the 29-member task force would hold at least five public hearings next year.” [Obama Health Care speech, 5/29/07; State Journal-Register, 5/20/04]
    ABC News: ‘Obama…seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he made’ on ethics reform. “ABC News’ Teddy Davis Reports: During Monday’s Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he has made on disclosure of “bundlers,” those individuals who aggregate their influence with the candidate they support by collecting $2,300 checks from a wide network of wealthy friends and associates. When former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel alleged that Obama had 134 bundlers, Obama responded by telling Gravel that the reason he knows how many bundlers he has raising money for him is “because I helped push through a law this past session to disclose that.” Earlier this year, Obama sponsored an amendment [sic] in the Senate requiring lobbyists to disclose the candidates for whom they bundle. Obama’s amendment would not, however, require candidates to release the names of their bundlers. What’s more, although Obama’s amendment was agreed to in the Senate by unanimous consent, the measure never became law as Obama seemed to suggest. Gravel and the rest of the public know how many bundlers Obama has not because of a ‘law’ that the Illinois Democrat has ‘pushed through’ but because Obama voluntarily discloses that information.” [ABC News, 7/23/07]
    Obama drastically overstated Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance. “When Sen. Barack Obama exaggerated the death toll of the tornado in Greensburg, Kan, during his visit to Richmond yesterday, The Associated Press headline rapidly evolved from ‘Obama visits former Confederate capital for fundraiser’ to `Obama rips Bush on Iraq war at Richmond fundraiser’ to ‘Weary Obama criticizes Bush on Iraq, drastically overstates Kansas tornado death toll’ to ‘Obama drastically overstates Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance.’ Drudge made it a banner, ensuring no reporter would miss it.” [politico.com, 5/9/07]
    ——————————————–

  • djia

    Hillary get’s a new Endorsement

    Farnese, Clinton backed by lesbian, gay Democrats

    snip:
    The Liberty City group also voted to endorse Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for president, and announced that it would co-sponsor a presidential forum at 7:45 p.m. tomorrow at Woody’s, a gay bar on 13th Street near Walnut Street.

    philly.com/inquirer/local/nj/20080326_Farnese__Clinton_backed_by_lesbian__gay_Democrats.html

  • texan4hillary

    Ask the ADL to condemn McPeak and Obama’s close ties to a church that is antisemitic-and even runs hamas op-eds!
    texan4hillary

    Local-
    Phone: (713) 627-3490
    Natl-
    Anti-Defamation League
    (202) 452-8310

    Or contact via webpage-
    adl.org/contact_us.asp

  • Kingsgrove

    http://www.campaignnetwork.org/search.aspx?Sec=P&ID=3

    Monday
    Clinton Campaign on the State of the Race (1 hr. 4 min.)
    Washington, DC: Howard Wolfson, Clinton Campaign Communications Director and Phil Singer, Clinton Campaign Deputy Communications Director hold a conference call to discuss the state of the presidential race.

    Tuesday
    Campaign Conference Call on the State of the Race (47 min.)
    Washington, DC: Clinton for President Campaign Officials Harold Ickes, Senior Advisor and Phil Singer, Deputy Communications Director conducts a press conference call to discuss the state of the race.

  • djia

    Clinton camp tags Obama for ‘the audacity of nope’

    h t t p: / / weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/clinton_camp_tags_obama_for_th.html

    “It’s interesting that the Obama campaign often gets its back up when we say that their campaign is just words,’’ Singer said. “But I think few things illustrate this point better than what Sen. Obama is doing with regard to Florida and Michigan.’’

    Obama is campaigning with ads in Pennsylvania that speak of his record as a young civil rights worker, Singer says, but “now he only wants to count some of the votes.’’
    snip:
    “We could have avoided the entire Bush presidency if we had counted votes in Florida,’’ Singer said. “The fact that Sen. Obama is endangering and jeopardizing Democratic prospects’’ in two states vital to winning in November is “unacceptable.’’

    “The general election is going to be very, very close,’’ said Harold Ickes, a senior adviser to the Clinton campaign, calling Republican Sen. John McCain a “formidable’’ opponent.

    “Florida, I think we have a real shot at winning this year, if Hillary is leading the ticket… Slapping these people in the face is not the way to engender support,’’ Ickes added. “We still have time to do a re-do election.””The Obama campaign is trying to convince everyone that this election is over,” Ickes said. “I hope they don’t get their hands on the federal budget, because they can’t count.”

  • djia

    w w w . larouchepub.com/pr/2008/080324politico_pinochet.html

    The Pinochet Connection Is Running the Anti-Clinton Campaign

    March 24, 2008 (EIRNS)—Politico, the Capitol Hill newspaper and website which is at the center of the effort to force Hillary Clinton to withdraw from the Democratic Presidential nomination, comes from the right-wing sponsors of former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. As reported in the Sunday briefing, Politico is run by Robert Allbritton, the son of Joseph L. Allbritton, who was forced into retirement when the fact of his Riggs Bank laundering millions of dollars for the fascist Pinochet and his family became a public scandal in 2004. While the elder Allbritton first took over Riggs in 1976, by 2001 he had turned over the bank’s daily operations to son Robert (who was ultimately forced to sell Riggs to PNC Bank).

    Investigations showed that Riggs was not only laundering money for Pinochet, but also for the Saudi royal family, including former Saudi Ambassador to the U.S. Prince Bandar bin Sultan, whose bribes from the BAE scandal passed through accounts at Riggs. Jonathan Bush, the uncle of President George W. Bush, was also a top official of Riggs, having come into the bank as the result of Riggs’ purchase of his company in 1997.

    Also present when all of this occurred, was one of Robert Allbritton’s top lieutenants, Frederick J. Ryan, who was then a board member of Riggs, and is now the chairman and CEO of Politico. Politico reportedly gets almost all of its funding from Allbritton Communications, which is now run by Robert Allbritton.

  • paddy4Hill

    Writing things out often clears things up for me. This issue of the Obama supporters has been on my mind for quite a period. Why are they so fanatical? So mean? Why have so many previous rational people been hoodwinked by this fake? It took a long time for me to come to some possible explanation for this weirdness. So I wrote. This initially was meant for my own personal use, and maybe to be used as a basis for an article in a Chinese newspaper (they are just as bewildered). Although it is a tad long, I felt it should also be shared here with my friends. It may not be perfect, but not much in life is. But it may provide some food for thought. I am always open to comments from those here on this site. I value your opinions. It follows below on a separate post.

  • paddy4Hill

    The Rise (and Fall) of the Neo-libs

    When and where did the neo-libs come from? One might say that the first sightings of what would eventually evolve into the neo-libs were the various state level Green Party organizations that sprung up in the early 1990s. These were Americanized copies of similar groupings in Europe, mainly white university liberal arts graduates from upper middle class families. The Greens were strongly anti-establishment and radical environmentalists. Their slogan was “think globally, act locally”, and were the ones to first coin the “global village” concept.

    They never made it into the mainstream and peaked with the Green Party candidacy for President of Ralph Nader. It didn’t matter much. Although they themselves did not hit the big time, their ideas lived on. For soon, most of their political positions had been usurped by a new radicalized youth who began protesting against the global status quo at international gatherings. And unlike the more pacifist Greens, the protests grew more and more violent, culminating in the notorious Seattle riots. Lacking an organizational base, financial support and a cadre of capable leaders, these protests may have just faded into the haze of yesterday’s news headlines as just another of those leisure-time indulgences undertaken by the spoiled offspring of well-off families. But something else was simultaneously happening that would alter the landscape of political America. The very global system that the protesters were rebelling against was creating one of the biggest wealth transfers the world had ever witnessed.

    Globalization resulted in vast amounts of wealth moving to the United States. This wealth though was not distributed evenly among the general population, but instead enriched a new group of younger, well educated, liberal minded, high tech savvy, entrepreneurs and highly paid professionals, now often described as middle-class millionaires. They made their fortunes using new asset classes of investment such as hedge funds, private equity and venture capital, most out of the reach of the average investor. This group of new rich left stood in stark contrast with old money that had long identified with the conservative faction of the Republican Party. The new class, who described themselves as progressives, was for the most part well-heeled political clones of the radical student protesters. Hence they were very internationalist in focus, taking extreme positions on the environment, human rights, global working conditions, and a collection of various causes such as Tibetan independence, organic farming, fair trade, and opposition to international organizations such as the World Bank and IMF. There was then a marriage of convenience between the two. Sharing similar goals as to what the world should look like, the new rich left differed from their radical student soul-mates in that they had money and lots of it to achieve their political goals. On the other hand their student ideological allies would be the ones that would supply the manpower. As the old saying goes, “if you’ve got the money honey, I’ve got the time.”

    Its was this convergence of what was left of the Greens, the radicalized youth and the new rich left, that gave birth to what I am calling the neo-libs. This name was chosen deliberately to draw on the similarities between the neo-libs and the neo-cons who occupy the opposite end of the political spectrum. Both hold views that are not at this point part of mainstream American politics, both are by themselves small factions within the two major parties, both are more concerned about international than domestic affairs, both advocate interventionism, including the use of force if necessary, to obtain their political objectives, both pose a grave danger to world peace and security.

    But major distinctions exist between the neo-libs and neo-cons. The neo-libs actively seek to dominate the newest and fastest growing form of information, the internet, through the use of coercion and e-violence. The student wing because their comfortable life styles and affluence allows them the time and finances, is employed to contain opposition to their movement. A variety of intimidation tactics ranging from the use of gross profanity on anti-neo-lib blog entries, posting crude and rude comments on sites running unfavorable news articles, conducting web searches on active opposition bloggers in order to find personal information that can be used on-line in ugly ways, and even death threats on the web against political opponents, are becoming commonplace. The majority of political blog sites are controlled by the neo-libs and most use strict censorship to screen out entries they consider unfriendly.

    Political intimidation tactics are not confined to the internet. Polling organizations have close connections to the neo-libs and many poll results are obvious attempts to mislead the public to disguise real voter sentiment. During the Democratic caucuses, it was common place for neo-lib student radicals to intimidate voters into voting for their candidate Senator Obama. The censorship of anti-Obama stories in the media and their near worshiping of his holiness has been so obvious that a famous late-night comedy program started a series of skits poking fun if it. Such a wide range of political intimidation and information control has not been seen in western developed countries since the early days of the National Socialist movement in Germany. This kind of worshiping of a political leader by followers and media alike is also too reminiscent of the National Socialist Adolf Hitler to be comfortable. While the neo-cons were able to take advantage of the weak Bush conservative administration to give us such things as the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the neo-libs promise to give us much worse if they ever come to power. The neo-libs are no lovers of freedom.

    Grounded in the transformed Green agenda, relying on an infantry of radicalized youth from upper middle class families, and powered by the big bucks of the new rich left, the neo-libs as a coherent movement made their initial foray into the political mainstream in 2004 by backing their first candidate, the former governor of Vermont Howard Dean, in the Democratic presidential primary. Although not a neo-lib himself but a member of the ageing-liberal wing of the Party, he nonetheless utilized neo-lib support on an anti-war platform to run as an “outsider,” distinguishing himself from the ageing-liberal Kerry and the moderate Edwards. They failed miserably; Dean did not win one contest. The neo-libs ended up reluctantly backing as second choice John Kerry, who like all previous liberal Democrats before him, went down to political defeat in the general election.

    The neo-libs extracted as the price for backing Kerry ageing-liberal support in giving the leadership of the Democratic National Committee to Howard Dean. Next, the unpopular war in Iraq resulted in the crushing defeat of the Republicans in the congressional elections in 2006, encouraging the ageing- liberals to try one more time to get into the White House even if it meant doing so through the back door. The key to that door would be resurrecting the coalition with the neo-libs. This time it would be a neo-lib that would head the ticket, and for this they anointed the African-American junior Senator from Illinois, Barak Obama. Their strategy was clear from the outset. The ageing-liberals would not run anyone from their own ranks to oppose Obama in the primaries and would provide the necessary Democrat establishment backing the neo-libs lacked. For their part, the neo-libs would implement an improved version of the Dean 2004 campaign strategy. The new rich left would bankroll the operation, with the radicalized youth serving as foot soldiers for the campaign and running interference on the web and at the caucuses. They would enjoy the added bonus of the African-American vote going for a favorite son. The media, dominated by either ageing-liberals or younger neo-libs, would serve as the organs of Obama’s propaganda. Their goal: to prevent the moderates from re-taking control of the Democratic Party and defeat of the unpopular Republicans in the general election.

    But globalization had not only created the new rich left, but also one of the widest gaps between the haves and haves not in American history. The pain resulting from the global economic restructuring was creating great difficulties for the middle classes. In a final act of desperation for one last chance at gaining the White House in alliance with the neo-libs, the ageing-liberals, once their champions, deserted the middle class. As for the neo-libs, they have little sympathy for the average working American. They, along with the old money Republicans, see no need for government programs that benefit the middle class. They already have it all. They can afford the best doctors, their children attend the finest schools, and they are going to retire in comfort. Hence they are more interested in Tibetan independence, human rights in Kosovo, and the Kyoto climate pact, than universal healthcare, better public schools or meaningful social security reform.

    The so-called Regan democrats, who have been pushed out of the Republican Party by the costly foreign adventures of the neo-cons and the rigid moral positions of the religious right, found themselves stranded in a political no-mans’ land. That was until the moderate faction of the Democratic Party launched a challenge on their behalf in the candidacy of New York Senator Hillary Clinton. Their strategy was just as ingenious as the neo-libs. Clinton as the candidate of the moderates would represent not only the former Regan Democrats now re-termed Lunch Bucket Democrats, but also Latinos, Asian Americans, Jewish Americans and carry the additional punch of being the first serious female contender for the White House in American history. The moderates under Clinton have still many allies within the Party, those who refuse to surrender it to the neo-lib bullies.

    It is odd that the African-American voters can not see the obvious fact that they are being used. The neo-libs will have no use for them if they ever come to power. They should realize what more and more middle class Americans already have. The new rich left will continue to use international capital to enrich themselves at the expense of the common folks. The current economic mess that began with the sub-prime meltdown was created by them as they attempted to maximize the return on their investments by upping the risk factors. And with their wealth they will seek to use the government to remold global economic and political conditions to their liking, much like neo-cons on the right. It is just that the agenda will change slightly. They will send the country’s youth of all colors to liberate Tibet, to free some far-off country like Burma or Sudan from their oppressors, force the price of goods up for the average consumers via international environmental taxes, fair trade quotas and product boycotts, and increase international tension. After waiting patiently eight years for the nightmare of the Bush administration to end, the world might have to endure eight more years of worse mistakes, this time from a new tyranny of the left and not the right. And it could be worse than before. The neo-libs have already shown brown-shirt like tendencies in a willingness to use the radicalized youth as a force to achieve their goals. They feel so strongly that they are right that any means will justify the ends. Many in the political and working classes have already fallen prey to the sweet sounds of the neo-lib propaganda, that a world built on their principals will be one of peace and prosperity. What they don’t tell you is that the peace and prosperity will be built on the backs of the working people and that the benefits will go disproportionately to themselves for they already control the purse strings of international capital.

    As for this election, the neo-libs would rather win the nomination and lose the general election than lose the nomination. If they secure the nomination, they remain in control of the Party until the next round. This will allow them to bring in more of their own people and dominate the agenda for years to come. After all, it has already been eight years since moderates under Bill Clinton held the reigns of power in the Party. Many of his people will be leaving political life in the next few years as they retire. The neo-libs and ageing-liberals want to replace as many of them as possible with their own. If Senator Clinton and the moderates win, this will keep the neo-libs out and ensure that the Party is one that occupies the political center.

    The neo-lib alliance does indeed want to win the general election too if they can, even though that seems remote at this point given the new problems of their candidate. Then they could exercise complete mastery of the Party. With both houses of congress at their disposal, especially the House under the ageing-liberal ally Pelosi, they can re-make the world according to their own image without restraints. But since the White House is looking increasing difficult to take for Obama, the last thing they want is to lose the nomination to Clinton, because then they lose everything. If she does win the nomination, the moderates will control the Party no matter which party is victorious in November. This is why the neo-lib duet of Obama and Dean, and the ageing-liberals leadership under Kennedy, Kerry, and Pelosi, are so desperate to win the primary election at all costs, even if it means losing the general election. It is the nomination that counts most for now and for the future direction of the Party. It is better to have half the pie than none.

    As Senator Clinton often correctly points out, America has never faced such challenges as it does at the present. The stakes have never been higher. The Republican leadership for too long believed that the biggest challenge to their ideals came from Senator Clinton. They are now belatedly realizing that a much more serious threat, this time to the vital interests of the United States, is coming from the neo-libs. Better late than never. At the same time, many have decided that the Democratic Party is worth fighting for. And the great masses of the American middle class are finally awaking to the fact that the only way to avoid a mistake of catastrophic proportion for both the world and their own economic interest, lies is the election of Democrat Senator Clinton as President.

  • tcbequalityactions

    This was a great endorsement that I didn’t want people to miss:

    Liberty City Democratic Club Endorses Hillary Clinton

    Philadelphia, PA – The Liberty City Democratic Club, a key LGBT political group in Pennsylvania, overwhelmingly endorsed Hillary Clinton for President with two-thirds of the members voting for her.

    This club’s endorsement further demonstrates Hillary Clinton’s strong support in the LGBT community. The Liberty City endorsement follows a f endorsements from grassroots LGBT groups like the Steel City Democrats, the Houston Stonewall Democrats, Dallas Stonewall Democrats, and 27 of the 39 members of Board the National Stonewall Democrats.

    “We are proud to endorse Senator Hillary Clinton in this important primary cycle,” said Matthew Woodcock, Endorsement Chair of the Liberty City Democratic Club. “Her record of accomplishment is proof positive that she’ll be a fighter for the LGBT community in the White House and that’s what we need. We need her experience working for us.”

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6753

  • tcbequalityactions

    Irish1139 – I think they are just preaching to the choir at this point. Very few people follow the ins and outs of elections except for political junkies like us. And all of us our already firmly in one camp or another. Most in America know that Hillary is not treated fairly in the press.

  • Idunn

    Good morning…I’m sick as a dog. 🙁

  • Sherm Kader

    Idunn, please don’t let a little thing like being sick or dying or whatever stop you from posting. You keep the wheels greased here.

  • Idunn

    Just a few thoughts to share this morning (and they are not well thought out, so bear with me):

    I became a registered democrat when I was in college. My leaning then was liberal democrat. Probably sometime in my early 30’s, I began to move more to the center…and several years ago, I began to define myself as a moderate democrat. Our thgouths and views on life, of course, change as we get older, and my own personal political philosophies certainly have reflected that. I voted for Al Gore in 2000…BECAUSE I was fairly aligned with Al on most issues. I watched the Democratic party screw that win up. To be honest, I think even at that point, I had stopped voting by party affliation, but stuck by all because I agreed with the man. In 2004, I rejected the democratic nominee, John Kerry. I won’t go into ALL the reasons why…suffice it to say, I didn’t feel in good conscience that I could vote for him.

    2 years ago, we moved to Tennessee. My husband and I both went to register to vote, and I was dismayed to discover that, in Tennessee , you do not register by party. Technically, we are all Independents. I was truly bothered by that, because I had been faithful to the “ideals” of the democratic party my entire adult life. I expressed my thoughts to my husband, who said simply, “Why do you feel you’ve betrayed a political party that hasn’t represented you for several years now?”. I had to take a long hard look at that and admit the truth of it. There IS now place for moderate democrats in the democratic party anymore…we have been pushed out, if indeed, we were ever “in” to begin with. Despite all this, I continued to give financial support to the DNC. UNTIL I watched the DNC disenfranchise Florida and Michigan voters. That was the end for me. I now PROUDLY call myself an Independent.

    Here’s the real crux of my thoughts this morning, though. I have discussed my feelings about my party affiliation with MANY of my republican friends. To my surprise, many of them have come to the same conclusions wrt the republican party. Most of them happen to be moderate republicans, not conservative republicans. They feel they too have been pushed out of their party.

    I don’t know what the hell it would actually take for people like us, who feel pushed out of our parties by the extreme left or extreme right, to form a VIABLE 3rd party. But the INSTANT someone can figure that out, I’m on board.

    I just wonder if there are other “loyal democrats” here, who feel the same way I do.

  • Idunn

    Sorry for all the typos…I’m sick and I don’t need any other excuse. 😉

    (hi Sherm)

  • Sherm Kader

    My political views are centrist or moderate. I spent many years in the SF Bay Area where fighting the powerful liberal wing of the party was a constant battle. The state party was far more liberal than the registered Democrats in the state.

    Candidates often complained they could not run on the extremely liberal state party platform, and they were constantly attacked by their GOP opponents for things written there. They found it uncomfortable running against their own party platform. I thought the fight for a more moderate approach was worthwhile. However, I was a low level activist at the state and local level without enough influence to do a lot. We all just do our part.

    I loved JFK and RFK, but I can’t stand Teddy. When he endorsed BHO I read somewhere Hillary told BHO how relieved she was Teddy endorsed him. I loved it even if I couldn’t find confirmation of that.

    Now I live in Louisiana where in spite of having good people like Carville and Pulchritude, I find very little party activity to join. I’m thankful for the Internet, and especially for this forum.

    I’m afraid there isn’t much chance for a third party in this country. So far the only ones that make real noise are the extremists. I will just continue to be a part of the centrist section of the Democratic Party.

    However, like so many others here, I refuse to vote for Obama. I truly am afraid of letting him get the power to destroy this country. We like to think he would be prevented from doing that because of the balance of power, but Bush has shown how much a President can get around that. I’ve never voted for a Republican, but the repugnance I feel for BHO is strong enough to force me to take that step. I cannot remain passive to that threat.

    OTOH, I’m still convinced Hillary has a chance to win the nomination. I watch hopefully at what B. Merryfield and others are doing here. I fume over the behavior of the MSM, but I hope the American people still have an independent streak. We simply cannot let the media choose our presidents.

  • Idunn

    Great thoughts, Sherm. Thanks for sharing them.

    I’m hopeful that HRC can pull this off too (and I’ll continue to work my ass off to help her), but I’m also a realist, so I’m trying to figure out what I will do in the GE if she doesn’t get the nomination. The only thing I’m sure of, at this moment, is that I will NEVER vote for Obama. People are free to call me paranoid, but I honestly feel like putting this man in the WH is tantamount to hammer the last nail into America’s coffin.

  • Idunn

    hammer= hammering

  • dot48

    HILLARY WILL BE ON GRETA SHOW ON FOX TONIGHT AT 10pm

    lets give greta the biggest rating on tv tonight

  • moononpluto

    Yup Idunn, i agree, putting Obama anywhere near the WH is akin to putting our necks in a meat slicer.

    This guy’s record absolutely reeks of destruction from the inside out, it is like handing over the keys of a blood bank to vampires.

    If his association of friends are anything to go by, i’d be very afraid of Obama and so should you be.

  • anbritt

    Idunn
    I feel the same way. In college I was a liberal dem..now I am more conservative dem..when my 18 yr old registered in Jan she wanted to know which party…i told her dem but later i thought about it. she is moreindependent..she does not like BHO, likes HRC and JonnyMac..i can see she won’t be dem long and thats ok. I find I am more willing to vote mod repub these last few years…I know that in my family there are two votes for BHO, MY FATHER(WHO CAN’T GET BEYOND THE BLACK THING) and my bro in law( he is still not registered) i have had enough of the dems…

  • meiyingsu

    someone posted this at TM,

    Hillary’s Bosnian Fib Play

    By Craig Crawford | March 26, 2008 6:00 AM | Permalink | Comments (13)

    Given the endless parsing of Clintonian motives, it would seem fitting to suspect that the great Bosnian fib was not so accidental. It is possible that Hillary Rodham Clinton benefited from her “mistake,” as she called her recent assertion of once landing in Bosnia under sniper fire.

    Although seemingly embarrassing for her, this episode did serve to provoke repeated airings of video showing Clinton on her trip to Bosnia 12 years ago looking more like a Commander in Chief than like a First Lady. While hardly arriving under a hail of bullets, as she has repeatedly claimed, the video clips do show Clinton in a much grittier setting than anything that might be expected for a purely ceremonial visit.

    Not saying this flap was clearly purposeful. Just saying that the visuals are not entirely bad for Clinton. And this could be one of those stories where the pictures register with voters more than the controversy itself.

    Craig at the Virginia Festival of the Book
    Saturday (3/29) 2:00 PM EST
    Barnes & Noble, 1035A Emmet Street
    Charlottesville, VA (434) 984-0461

  • anbritt

    they keep saying hrc will do anything to win..but look at him he has no record to run on..there is nothing there..he has no business running at all..he can’t seem to shake her off thats because her support is intense but i wonder how much of her support will vote for him in the GE. Many say they won’t but when it comes down to it, most probably will..look at the GE matchups…he seems to do ok which means he is getting her supporters..well..not my vote

  • dot48

    no Hobama for me. The guys not been vetted, he’s wet behind the ears and his associations with crooks and liars…well, that does enough for me. He’s a uniter like I’m a rocket scientist.

  • moononpluto

    meiyingsu, i was thinking that just the other day, the video does show a lot more than just handing out flowers, i guess the public is wondering, funy we aint seen Obama doing this.

    The contrast i heard from some people yesterday was, on the news over easter they had Hillary videos from Bosnia and Obama walking the beach in the Virgin Islands, I asked some people which ones looked better, all 10 said Hillary’s looked like she was hard at work, Obama’s like he was laying around doing nothing.

    So there may be a silver lining here.

  • meiyingsu

    anbritt, BHO has nothing to run on but destroy Hillary to win.

  • dot48

    anbritt .. the pollsters this time have big agendas too. Don’t believe for one minute that Hillary support will just drop over to him. Won’t happen.

    Turn that around .. Hillary is beating him in the GE matchup against McCain .. so what does that mean?

    The polls are targeting a “certain” group of people right now, it’s amazingly easy to do. They are not random and I will wait on the voters out of PA to get a better gauge on what is happening.

  • moononpluto

    oh and by the way, i have a lot of people comment about Obama skipping Church over Easter, they didnt seem to like that fact.

    1 : They sort of thought he was avoiding stuff.
    2 : Many think his church going is playacting, if that gets traction in the public, he’s screwed.

  • moononpluto

    Yes Dot, i am quite sure certain pollsters are skewing polls deliberately to make bambi look good.

    Novak, who hates Hillary with a passion basically said yesterday, he’s seen all the internal polls of PA and Hillary is way way ahead and rising by the day.

  • JanH

    I listened to media last night try to say that Hillary was only commenting on Wright at this late date because she wanted to move on from her Bosnian slip up…

    Once again certain members of the media have been drinking the coolaid. How on earth is it conceivable that her small mistake could ever even be on the same scale as Obama and the Wright scandal? 😉

  • basil9

    Morning all,
    Fell better, Idunn. 🙁
    FWIW, testing the media waters and Scarface amazingly fair to HRC, even going so far as to confess he’s “in love” with her, just a little, because she is so darn tough! And he wasn’t being sarcastic! Mika was shocked.
    Scarface also saying that he doesn’t think BO can recover from the race stuff, that he has turned off white male blue collar voters and he won’t get them back.
    even Mika said it’s strange that BO was the one brought race up!
    Maybe this is gonna be a good media day, or at least a non-damaging one? Now playing a clip of HRC’s economic plan and Scarface REITERATING how tough she is! But then he stupidly says we should put the best and the brightest together. HRC in charge of finances and Cheney for the military.

    And this is NOT the time for her to get out of the race!

  • anbritt

    dot 48

    i a m with you on this…someone said any reflection in drop of support for him will not show until after he wins the nomination well i don’t to find out…i want her. really all anyone talks about is still wright….i don’t hear too much talk about bosnia except that it was a while age and as someone said..she did go there

  • JanH

    As a person of the Jewish faith, I have a hard time believing that any Jewish people would support Obama’s campaign. It would be one thing if his connections to terrorists, pro-palestinian/anti-Israeli existence, and persons of anti-semetic beliefs were few and insignificant. This isn’t the case.

    The idea that Steven Spielberg, someone who has fought long and hard to preserve Jewish history and rights is a contributer just doesn’t make sense to me. I am hoping that he along with others demand their money back and walk away.

  • dot48

    nope, Bosnia gaff isn’t going to damage her. It was a war zone .. one other reporter who was on the trip talked about the corkscrew landing .. the artice in 1996 by AP reiterated the same thing.

    I sent the article to Gregory yesterday and I wondered if he touched on it.

    I really believe that the mail is being censored to the hosts as well….how easy for the latte liberal punks to simply delete any mail that asks for clarification on Hillary.

  • basil9

    Should have said Scarface siad HRC should NOT get out of the race.

    And dizzy Dana Mill;bank flip-flopped and totally agreed, saying ‘who are we to say she should get out of the race. She is still a viable candidate.”

    Dot,

    Where should I send the impeach Brillo-head letter besides the DNC?

  • moononpluto

    Another thing we need to start hitting the msm with is, you are always hitting HRC over her records, Where are Obama’s state senate records, they are completely missing and no one is challenging him on it.

    Certain sites are starting to ask questions.

  • dot48

    I think Mika days are numbered. She has been trying to be the host of that show and I can see real strain in the duo….Joe will throw her overboard if he’s smart. Her dissy attitude, the sighs, the eyerolls that I’ve seen her do not represent a good host.

    Any debates verrified? I read one article that Hillary may not debate anymore, probably because the panel skewers the questions to Obama

  • dot48

    basil .. I wonder if it might not be a good idea to start sending Brazille’s comments to the superdelegates .. her bias on National Tv is not good for the party. The race isn’t over, Hillary still has a strong base of support and Brazil’s continued presence to slam Hillary is making the base mad.

    What do you think.

    I never did get any emails from you..can you elaborate on what you thought before that you were going to email me. I really want to know.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Idunn, I think that the conservative/moderate divide only really applies to the extremists in either party. I am VERY Liberal in most of my views, and probably disagre a lot on lure ideology with many of even my moderate Repub friends.

    BUT I truly believe that MOST voters are made up of the vast middle, who are not “conservative Democrats” or “moderate Republicans”, but what I call “the PRACTICAL wing” of both parties. I.e., we realize that we are not going to agree on everything, but are more than able and willing to debate, and compromise, and move forward to get things done for the country with imperfect but workable solutions. Our approach is similar to our approach to relationships in our daily lives – one does not have to agree on everything, or stubbornly insist on your neighbor or coworker TOTALLY swallowing one’s own view, in order to get along and get stuff accomplished.

    Both parties have a vested interest in magnifying every right/left disagreement to the point of the ludicrous, and keeping us at each others throats. It makes for more power for THEM. If the vast practical, common-sense middle of America (who are a majority) ever realized this, and rebelled, both the Neo-cons and the Neo-libs would lose their power.

  • basil9

    meiyingsu, moonpluto, dot,

    i was thinking the same thing about the Bosnia footage. First of all, she looks amazing int the clip; strong, competent, gorgeous and it’s quite a contrast that she, while approximately the same age BO is today, was traveling the world on US business and where is BO? Vacationing in the Virgin Islands. Frankly, i don’t understand WHY he went there – i don’t remember any other candidates vacationing in such ritzy spots and showing footage of it on TV. it smacks of hedonism, self-indulgence, an aversion to real work.

  • Hillary must have Dick Morris worried now, he is getting really desperate.

    March 26, 2008
    Hillary’s List of Lies
    By Dick Morris

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hillarys_list_of_lies.html

    Of course nothing tops the Obama my parents met and I was conceived at the Selma March when in fact he was born several years before the march.

  • moononpluto

    What they should do is Open Town hall debate, no podium where the questions are from the public and no journalists intervening, only a moderator.

    Then we’d see exactly Obama is all about.

  • basil9

    dot, I’m gonna try again with the email in a few minutes. I’m gonna cut and paste a few excerpts and send a fresh from-scratch message. Will get to it in a few minutes.

    Maybe I was pasting too much info.

  • basil9

    I really believe that the mail is being censored to the hosts as well….how easy for the latte liberal punks to simply delete any mail that asks for clarification on Hillary

    Here’s what I said yesterday;
    For those who wonder WHY HRC’s surrogates aren’t more visible and WHY she doesn’t get equal coverage, here’s my take.
    Aside from theTweeties, the Ogremans, the Shitzers, the Round-the World’s, who are beyond our grasp at this point, who do you think screens their emails, books their guests, schedules the shows, decides on video content? Most people in those support position jobs are youngish latte liberal types and I have no doubt they censor, edit and skew network correspondence toward the messiah. Don’t you think it’s strange that Lou Dobbs, a show that’s hardly popular with the liberals, has run two polls in a row that were hands-down HRC winners and yet the results favored BO? I think they’ve even infiltrated Lou coz he looked pretty shocked tonight and yesterday when the results were tallied.
    The tech savvy media workers of today know their way around a computer program and just as some on Forum have speculated that BO’s campaign has robo-callers, robo-emailing, those same techniques are used in BM offices. (IMHO)

  • basil9

    dot,

    just did a test at the wva addy.

    what’s the other one?

  • pm

    paddy4Hill Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 5:04 am

    The Rise (and Fall) of the Neo-libs
    ———————–

    Thanks for your writeup. I also am curious at how he tapped into the youth network — green party is one (I think someone on this board had put up a post about their caucus, talking about the young woman who was precinct captain and how she would go back to her party after this election — not a new young voter for the dems as they think she might be) and the other is something I have speculated. Don’t have any research to back it up. Samantha Power talked about her work on Darfur in one of the interviews (you can find it on YouTube) and she was talking about how they tapped into youth energy on college campuses to bring attention to that atrocity. Obama tapped into Power in ’04.

  • Here is a list of the names of pledges delegates from 9 states so far. Since pledged does not really mean they have to vote the way apportioned they can change their minds. The trick is trying to figure out who they are. Scroll down to see the names and congressional district they are from.

    http://www.goobergunch.net/45demconroll.html

  • meiyingsu

    this is from TM comment,

    Wanna know who said it first? Obama!

    From ABC:

    December 28, 2007 7:49 AM

    “ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told a crowd in Vinton, Iowa Thursday that he’s not going to pull a Tonya Harding on his rival candidates.

    “Folks said there’s no way Obama has a chance unless he goes and kneecaps the person ahead of us, does a Tonya Harding,” Obama joked, referring to the female skating champion who conspired to harm a competitor during the 1994 U.S. Figure Skating Championships.

    “We decided that’s not the kind of campaign we wanted to run,” he said.

    Obama said his campaign has been trying to point out differences with the other candidates without going negative.

    However the Clinton campaign has accused their Democratic rivals of negative attacks throughout the campaign.

    The final judge will be Iowa caucus voters in just one week. “

    Obama even plagiarizes himself.

  • basil9

    rjk,

    WOW! What a great list! Too bad emails aren’t included but maybe if people here contact some of these delegates we can somehow get a running list of addy’s

    How could we do that?

  • basil9

    meiyingsu,

    ROTFLMAO!

    So the BO campaign is recirculating past snipes. We gotta send that to tapper. bet he’d be real interested in that.

  • It will take work first seeing where the districts are and checking information to find the right person. I am sure that there are several people in the same districts with the same name. Board of elections would have all that information and I am sure they will not just give it out. Maybe people here from those states can do some leg work.

  • paddy4Hill

    pm, maybe the more radicalized youth were waiting to tap into somebody and he was it and not the other way around, or perhaps both were in need of a pick up. In any case, certainly a step up for these younger neo-libs. Obama did a better job than Dean in the primaries, but both will be poop-outs in the end. Neither could put together a winning coalition that could mobilize the majority. Hillary already did.

  • B Merryfield

    Good morning Hillfans. First of all a word to the wise — don’t link, quote or refer to Larouche. The mere mention of his name or linking to his website is discrediting. Read up in the Wikipedia on him to see.

    First RW article of the day is on McPeak.

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/one-degree-of-separation-klein-top.html

  • Universal

    I’ve written about it in some diaries and I’ll repeat it here — there is no way I will vote for Barack Obama, as many of you have said.

    The final straw for me was when it became clear that BHO was willing to disenfranchise FLA and MI for his own ambitions, dooming Dems in November. That was it, he lost my vote.

    But as I do more research, I am coming to the conclusion Idunn has: Barack as President would be a disaster.

    Does that mean I would vote for McCain? I don’t know, I’ve never voted for a GOP candidate in my life.
    Maybe I vote for Nader instead. I’m not sure yet.

    The more I read about the cesspool of Chicago politics and the problematic church-political ties that
    seem to exist in some of the Midwestern urban areas
    (e.g., 60 ministers or so have come out in support of
    Kwame Kilpatrick, who is 100% guilty based on the text messages I’ve read), the less I like or believe Barack. Even worse are the Odinga ties. And Wright. And the shady stock deals. And Michelle. And he’s vacationing like he’s the second Dubya.

    There are so many threads that haven’t even been tied together yet that are really damaging, and I think
    that things are going to get worse in terms of the connections Obama has had, and those connections’ connections.

    Simply put, I don’t trust this guy. He seems long on mouth and arrogance, short on getting his hands dirty and being sincere and truthful.

    People can say whatever they want about Hillary, or even McCain, but at least you know what you’re getting.

    With BHO, I don’t know what I’m getting, and I’m not the least bit eager to find out. Because the hints are not good at all.

  • basil9

    dot,

    My email got bounced back.

    here’s the addy i used.

    wvagal @ yahoo . com. Is that right? it is not going through.

  • dot48

    basil … wvgal571@yahoo.com

    don’t add “a” after wv … add 571 after gal

    wv gal 571 @ yahoo.com (move all letters together) whew, my addy.

  • Artiste

    Good morning gang!

    This si why i almost never drink cocktails! I came home last night from my client’s place….he had plied me with a few Bloody Mary’s….and I was reading all the stuff on Hillary and the Bosnia garbage…and promptly donated $100.44 to the campaign! LOL

    I had donated $25.44 that morning…which I could hardly afford! LOL

    Oh well…maybe I’ll get t go meet Hillary and see Elton in NY!

  • Idunn

    I never in a MILLION years thought I would vote for McCain if HRC didn’t get the nomination. Now…I just don’t know. I seriously doubt that, when push come to shove, I’ll actually be able to cast a ballot for McCain. I WOULD be content with casting a write-in vote for HRC, EXCEPT that I’m starting to feel it’s incerdibly important to do whatever I can to stop BO.

    I dunno. All I can do right now is keep working my ass of for HRC, and cross the GE bridge when I come to it.

  • basil9

    DOT,

    I tried twice, once through my outlook express and once linking to your addy as shown here.

    Got my fingers crossed.

  • Artiste

    B Merry…i LOVE the new Cluster Map tracker on RW! It just seeths of worry…(smile)

    I can see the Rezko-worriers and the press folks around the world sweating every time they log on!

    Makes me smile!

  • Universal

    Great stuff on BHO’s possible psychological issues, BHO’s lies and neo-libs. Thanks to the posters of those!

    The morning AA anchor on CNN is driving me nuts. Does CNN have ANY AA on-air people who are NOT Donna Brazile-level in the tank for BHO?

    At least FOX will have some AA guests on who haven’t been “John Lewis” arm twisted into total shills for BHO.

    I think it’s insulting, actually. It’s almost like a contest of which AA host/guest can be MOST effusive in their BHO praise.

    “No, I’m a bigger BHO backer.”
    “Nope. I’m his #1 fan.”
    “No, it’s ME!”

    I think it’s a very narrow and stereotyped approach to
    take, especially for a would-be progressive network like CNN.

    Thank God for Dobbs. At least he had Shelby Steele on and got some balance and diversity of AA opinion.

    Also, did anyone catch the meltdown Andy Cooper and one of his guests had as Lanny Davis SCHOOLED them last night? He took their weak questions about Bosnia and brought it back to Wright, etc. and I mean
    Cooper was just so frustrated and his producers were in his ear and the other guest was just flummoxed. It
    was spectacular. Lanny just destroyed them.

    Hope all are having a great morning.

    🙂

  • Artiste

    For those who have not read Paddy4Hill’s “written thoughts” near the top of this thread, it is a must. She has put into a cohesive form all that I believe we all have been thinking and have not expressed in such a concise form. Well done Paddy…I have sent it on to one of the most prevalent and published bloggers and writers I know.

    BO is a frightening figurehead for an even more dangerous group.

  • Universal

    Tony Harris is the morning CNN AA anchor. There’s another AA guy who follows him, I believe (I think his name is Don something), but he’s nowhere near as annoying in his Hillary-bashing as Harris is. It’s a bunch of BS.

    Idunn — good point. Maybe I’ll write in HRC’s name. I don’t know right now.

    Gallup just came out with a poll that 28% of HRC backers will support McCain if HRC doesn’t get the nomination. Obama could get less than 40% in the general, or right around that number.

    Last person at that number? Mondale, who was around 41% I believe (pop vote).

  • B Merryfield

    Artiste .. new map because those sneaky Google people hooked up with ClustrMaps and added ads when you opened up the map for details.

    Guess what? Because it is RezkoWatch, with an emphasis on BO, the whole doggone page was filled with HUGE ads for …. ta da ! you guessed it … BO !!!

    I sent them an email and told them why I had dropped their map and found this one. I like it better, actually. It not only shows where people have come from but who’s online when you are!

    They have ads, too, but not selected by meta tags.

  • Artiste

    If y’all are not sure of my new dress, I am the “spacey” artist type we have seen here. The name was messing up my Google searches from my clients.

    Hope you like the new dress.

  • nikki22

    Morning Gang! I know some of you were worried about that PPP NC poll. I found this from a commenter on TM:

    The North Carolina poll, explained:
    UPDATE: It turns out that PPP changed the structure of its sample over the past week to include people who voted in the 2006 general election (last week’s only counted 2004 and 2006 primary voters). PPP’s Tom Jensen attributes “some” of Obama’s jump to that decision.

    There you have it: PPP changed its methodology. PPP does not have a good track record under the best of circumstances and this does nothing to help in that regard.

    Grey | 03.25.2008 – 10:46 pm | #

  • Sherm Kader

    While I still believe Hillary can become our nominee, and certainly deserves to be, I have thought about how I would decide to vote in the GE if Obama bin Lyin was somehow awarded the nomination.

    I would go by the polls in the GE. If it looked like McCain was the clear winner, then I would either not vote at all or vote for Nader (just to take another vote away from BHO). If it looked close, or if BHO was leading, I would definitely vote for McCain.

    Things change in politics, but at this time it looks like a workable plan for me.

  • pm

    # paddy4Hill Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 9:02 am

    pm, maybe the more radicalized youth were waiting to tap into somebody and he was it and not the other way around, or perhaps both were in need of a pick up. In any case, certainly a step up for these younger neo-libs. Obama did a better job than Dean in the primaries, but both will be poop-outs in the end. Neither could put together a winning coalition that could mobilize the majority. Hillary already did.
    —————————-

    Yep, he is a fringe candidate propped up by a fringe support, the media and the DNC (because he can give a speech). People talk about what a brilliant campaign he has run — well, he has tons of money, media, establishment and speech writers (and teleprompters). Outside of the speeches, his occasional press conferences are near to a disaster, his debating skills are not all that good, he can’t talk policy, and lately his verbal gaffes to explain his previous gaffes had the campaign flying him to Virgin Islands.

  • Artiste

    Thanks B Merry. What a crock. That is why when I search for Hillary Stories, all I get is BO. Makes me sick. He is worse than any brand name ever. And his ads are just as annoying.

  • mj

    Guys, don’t let the media mess with your head. I remembered last night how they were all so sure Bill would be removed from office or forced to resign. It didn’t happen.

  • Universal

    Artiste — Nice dress 🙂

    Nikki — I never believed that new poll at all. Now things make more sense.

  • paddy4Hill

    thanks Artiste.

    I like your new name. Cute!

  • dot48

    DON’T FORGET HILLARY WILL BE ON GRETA SHOW ON FOX TONIGHT..10PM .BE SURE TO GIVE GRETA THE RATINGS TONIGHT

  • basil9

    ok Folks,

    I give up.

    i have spent the past hour trying to contact Jack Tapper at ABC about the origins of the Tony Harding reference and trying to email Dot!!!!!

    D@mn I HATE using up all this time for nothing!

    Gonna log off and try again later.

  • plural

    I don’t watch the MSM at all, but just now read the transcript of Anderson Cooper last night because someone above recommended it.

    Cooper’s bias for BO is so transparent — and he makes no effort to hide his animus toward Hillary (Lanny Davis had to challenge him for saying “the Clintons” all the time). He should have to declare himself as an in-kind contribution to the BO campaign.

  • basil9

    Universal,

    I agree. Don lemon is annoying but Tony Harris is obnoxious.

    I’ve written the networks and complained about the pro-BIO bias, not that it helped.

    🙁

  • mj

    Good for Lanny! That is the worst. It’s meant to diminish Hillary’s merit as a candidate when they refer to her as “the Clintons”.

    On another note, I am a retro-liberal, FDR type. That’s why I support Hill.

  • Artiste

    Thanks Universal.

    Idunn, I am sorry you feel so bad today.

    AS for Tony Harris, I couldn’t stand him BEFORE the elections started. He is an unprofessional cartoon, and reminds me more of Al Jolson than anyone else.

    And regarding CNN and all the other “news” outlets that have suddenly had a plethora of AA commentators.

    I was speaking with my AA lawyer neighbor abbout this the other day and she thought it a good thing. While I agree with THAT, as the white loony folks cannot speak TO the AA situation with cred, I told her that I believed it to be rather a matter of political expediency, as if they had ANY intent of expanding their REAL talking head stables, this would have happened BEFORE BO. It is getting on board the Soul Train after the music started up…IMO, and VERY transparent. In addition, the fact that SO MANY AA’s on television now are for BO is not shocking, as I believe it is part off the PRIDE thing, but to make it look like NO (or almost no) AA’s are NOT for BO is also disingenuous.

  • plural

    You have to excuse Cooper, he grew up a poor little rich kid and feels guilty about it. His mother is Gloria Vanderbilt

  • paddy4Hill

    It must be hard for a guy like Obama to choose a warm place to vacation this year. He can’t go to Florida like most folks, might get tar and feathered. Not very likely he would show up in sunny Mexico. Too many of their relatives live in Texas and California. Better to go to the Virgin Islands. His kind of voters!

  • Artiste

    Thanks Paddy, and GGREAT POST earlier on the neo-lib. I will be borrowing that! (and have already) but gave you credit…as best I could! LOL

  • paddy4Hill

    Sorry for the typo Artiste. I meant dress. gosh darn keypad.

  • Artiste

    lol Paddy….didn’t really notice!

  • plural

    rjk, aaaawwww, poor little Anderson. He could stand to take some courses in fairness.

    mj, “I remembered last night how they were all so sure Bill would be removed from office or forced to resign. It didn’t happen.”

    They did everything they could to force him to resign.

    I remember someone from the White House saying, “If the Lord Almighty told him to resign, he wouldn’t do it.” That’s my Bill. The Clintons are so tough. I love them for it.

  • mj

    Exactly, so no one here should worry so much about cable news. Really, few people watch it, and they are hardly ever right.

  • plural

    Imagine if “the Clintons” were spending five days in the Virgin Islands, what the MSM would be saying about them.

    Anderson Cooper was going on and on about her tax returns. So stupid — they went on the same way about her schedules, and what came of that?

    NADA. Zero.

  • Artiste

    @Paddy… “He can’t go to Florida like most folks”

    as his preacher could not either.

    I have heard several accounts locally about this as to WHY he canceled. NONE of them cited “security” that I have seen. The most repeated was CONTROVERSY. The local radio news said they the entire international press corps was there and that just made it a circus.

    WOW

    I cannot imagine the entire international Press Corp in Temple Terrace (Tampa) and the minister there had stated Wright was “getting a bad rap”

  • Universal

    Basil — Exactly. Harris’ style annoys the hell out of me, and he is a blatant BHO shill.

    Artiste — That’s how I feel. The networks woke up and said “Oh, sh*t! We’ve got a legit AA candidate for Prez, so let’s open up our Rolodex and start calling out for AA commentators.”

    If BHO wasn’t in, those commentators wouldn’t be there, which is why it seems so opportunistic and phony. It is.

    At least FOX tries to get difference in opinion with their
    AA commentators/guests/hosts. CNN seems to not even try, except for Dobbs. It’s very disingenuous, even if some of the primaries have been about 90/10 splits for BHO with the AA vote. The message is clear: if you’re African-American, you support Obama, period.

  • paddy4Hill

    Good point Artiste. It would have been better for him to have planned to go to Clearwater instead of Tampa. Not even the international press corp would have followed him there!

  • Artiste

    OMG…I just missed it. Geraldine Ferraro was just on LAura Ingraham! Did anyone hear her?

  • Artiste

    LOL Paddy…even I don’t go to Clearwater if I can help it!

  • moononpluto

    God, i know she’s a repug troll but Laurie Roth just went to town on Obama, bigtime.

    The RW is picking up bigtime on the terrorist connections, long may it spread.

    They basically are asking, how the hell does Obama get a security clearance.

    http://www.therothshow.com/home07.htm

    What do William Ayers, former Weather Underground, and Rashid Khalidi, the professor at Columbia University who arranged the Ahmedinejad visit and has direct ties to the PLO, and Barack Obama have in common? According to well placed sources, Barak Obama and William Ayers directed money to Rashid Khalidi, the Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University. Khalidi has long been at the center of controversy for his anti-Israeli, pro-Palestinian statements. In 2005, Khalidi was barred from participating in a teacher training program in the New York City public school system for his extremist statements.

    Here are the connections per my source.

    Allison Davis, who hired Obama into his small, Chicago law firm, Davis, Miner, Barnhill, in 1993, left the firm in late 1999 or early 2000 and became a housing developer. Davis then went into business with Tony Rezko, who he met when Rezko was a client of the firm. Rezko is presently under indictment for demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business under Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. In October 2006, Rezko was indicted for extortion of businesses seeking to do business with the Illinois Teachers Retirement System Board and the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board. He was also charged with wire fraud for staging false transactions of his pizza stores in order to secure $10 million in loans from GE Capital. Rezko is a fundraiser for Obama.

  • ABM90

    Last night,CNN’s Larry King,brought his long career to a long and hopefully short slide into the MSNBC and FOX,Septic TANK.He and his muck slinging clones,would this do us all a favor and take BHO with them.The REPUGS and the MSM are disgusting in their evil drive for eternal power and control of our great country.Hillary shows the world,every day,that she has the tooughness,experience,concern and the understanding that our next president must have in these dangerous times.I may be a 90 yr crusty supporter and I have seen the best and the worst of the candidates,but she is by far the NATIONAL TREASURE we need.
    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE ”

    WE love and and respect you HILLARY.MAde my 10th contribution today from my SS check and I know that she will protect the fund from Right Wing gang and their last great hope. I like to refer to them as “OBABA and the FOURTY THIEVES.

  • TPS

    NPR: Obama recreated portions of his 2002 anti-war speech for a television as

    Even in this era of YouTube and camera phones, a recording of Obama’s speech is all but impossible to find. The Obama campaign has gone so far as to re-create portions of the speech for a television ad, with the candidate re-reading the text, with audience sound effects.

    Via No Quarter USA

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/26/the-fake-iraq-war-speech-more-creative-embellishments/#more-1933

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88988093

  • paddy4Hill

    Artiste

    We are singing off the same sheet of music. Obamatoons! (Hope nobody here is from Clearwater).

  • moononpluto

    Now we see what kind of guy Obama is, he was the only one in congress who refused help.

    http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=38709

    In an article published Monday in The American Thinker, the man who secured the release of self-described Muslim Zionist Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was “the only member of the US Congress or Senate who passed on helping the imprisoned and tortured journalist.”

    Dr. Richard L. Benkin of Chicago said that he approached about 15 percent of the US House and “a handful of Senators.” Everyone took some action, he wrote, except Obama. Although The American Thinker is an influential journal of conservative thought in the US, Benkin makes it clear that this is not a liberal-conservative issue. In the article and elsewhere, he sites liberal and conservative members of Congress who went on record to protest Choudhury’s persecution.

    “Since I’m from Illinois, I naturally approached both of my Senators for help. Dick Durbin came through. He recognized the matter as “an important human rights issue” and wrote a letter of protest to the Bangladeshi government. Obama, however, was another story. I spoke with him personally on two occasions, met with his people in Washington, and sent them a ton of information on the case. I never even got a form letter. If everyone did the same thing as Obama did, Shoaib Choudhury still would be in jail-or worse.”

    Benkin also notes that when he brought the matter before his Congressman, Mark Kirk, he took immediate and powerful action, calling the Bangladeshi in his office where the three of them had an hours-long meeting. Three weeks later, Shoaib Choudhury was released.

    Surprised, in a word, no!

  • Obamas Gave Less Than 1% of Their 2000-2004 Income to Charity
    March 25, 2008 4:06 PM

    This is why politicians don’t like to release their tax returns!

    Bloomberg News crunches the numbers on Sen. Barack and Michelle Obama’s newly-released tax returns and finds:

    “The Obamas’ donations to all recipients totaled $2,350 in 2000, $1,470 in 2001, $1,050 in 2002, $3,400 in 2003, and $2,500 in 2004. They also paid federal taxes totaling $311,044 during the same period on their $1.2 million of income.”

    So much for Christian charity….

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/obamas-gave-les.html

  • moononpluto

    elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/26/gallup-poll-shows-many-democratic-voters-ready-to-vote-mccain-if-their-first-choice-doesnt-make-it-to-november/

    28% of Clinton supporters go to McCain if she’s not the nominee.
    19% of Obama supporters go to McCain if he’s not the nominee.

    Clearly HRC is more electable. Period

  • TriMT7

    Obama Campaign releases new easy-to-read memo to media explaining their post-racial perspective and how they expect the media to handle all issues of race from now on:

    photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v216/200/67/3402073/n3402073_37242693_4302.jpg

  • mj

    Tri, that’s funny.

  • mj

    I can not believe he reenacted his speech. What a phony! Hill should do an ad with her authentic human rights speech.

  • Oprah’s Obama backlask??

    Ellen named top TV host, Larry King least sexy-poll

    The poll by Web site AOL Television asked readers which daytime TV host made their day and Ellen, who opens “The Ellen DeGeneres Show” by dancing with her audience, trounced Oprah with 46 percent of the vote, while Oprah only won 19 percent.

    news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080326/people_nm/talkshow_aol_dc

  • rgb44hrc

    djia Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 2:09 am
    How Bad is it For Obama in Pennsylvania?

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/how_bad_is_it_for_obama_in_pen.html
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    djia, Thanks for the link. There are a few other delicious tidbits that were not included in your excertps:

    Convincing on the Critical Issues: On the issues that voters say are most important, Clinton is controlling the field. Among voters who say the economy is most important, she is up 15 points. Among healthcare voters, she is up 19 points. Among voters who rank leadership highest, she is up 30 points, and among those who say electability is most important, she leads by 15 points. (Source: Quinnipiac University Poll)

    But the Pennsylvania polls only tell why Clinton is doing so well; they don’t explain why Obama is doing so badly. And this too needs to be understood in assessing what might happen during the final month of the campaign.

    Among the reasons Obama is lagging in Pennsylvania is that he has not spent much time there, whereas Clinton has spent considerable time in the state since voting ended in Ohio and Texas. By some estimates she has invested twice as much time and made twice as many trips into the state. Equally important in understanding Obama’s problems is the week or so of rough patch he endured during the controversy over his church pastor. That period probably produced a greater increase in his polling “negatives” than any other in the campaign. From just mid-February to mid-March, he sustained a 10 point decline in his favorable ratings according to the Franklin & Marshall College Poll.

  • Hill still out-performing Obambi in the GE…

    Missouri: McCain vs. Obama Rasmussen McCain 53, Obama 38, Und 9 McCain +15
    Missouri: McCain vs. Clinton Rasmussen McCain 50, Clinton 41, Und 9 McCain +9

  • mj

    I think she will win Missouri.

  • Idunn

    Ugh…I put my head down on the desk and fell asleep. 🙁

    I would go by the polls in the GE. If it looked like McCain was the clear winner, then I would either not vote at all or vote for Nader (just to take another vote away from BHO). If it looked close, or if BHO was leading, I would definitely vote for McCain.

    Damn Sherm, you’re a smart cookie, cookie. I hadn’t even thought of that. 🙂

    ARTISTE…I MUST be really sick, I never put two and two together with respect to your name. For some reason, I thought you were Fashionista. 😯

  • mj

    Idunn, take care of yourself. Drink some OJ.

  • Idunn

    I’m turning orange from oj, mj.

    (that doesn’t cound right)

  • Idunn

    Anyway…what can I do to help today? Besides call…no way I can do that due to the coughing.

  • rgb44hrc

    Craig Crawford’s blog (he rose up nice and early to post it, notice):

    Hillary’s Bosnian Fib Play
    By Craig Crawford | March 26, 2008 6:00 AM | Permalink | Comments (102)

    Given the endless parsing of Clintonian motives, it would seem fitting to suspect that the great Bosnian fib was not so accidental. It is possible that Hillary Rodham Clinton benefited from her “mistake,” as she called her recent assertion of once landing in Bosnia under sniper fire.

    Although seemingly embarrassing for her, this episode did serve to provoke repeated airings of video showing Clinton on her trip to Bosnia 12 years ago looking more like a Commander in Chief than like a First Lady. While hardly arriving under a hail of bullets, as she has repeatedly claimed, the video clips do show Clinton in a much grittier setting than anything that might be expected for a purely ceremonial visit.

    Not saying this flap was clearly purposeful. Just saying that the visuals are not entirely bad for Clinton. And this could be one of those stories where the pictures register with voters more than the controversy itself.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    plus a comment posted by someone called “sturgeone”:

    Honestly outside of opposition hatred for Hillary I don’t understand why it is such a major issue. We would have to look long and hard going through a list of presidents that have not exaggerated their resumes.

  • DemHawk

    Some more dirt on BHO: corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2ZhODdkMGFhYmEwMDEwM2UwMWMwMzU1ZWZjYTY0OWQ=

  • JanH

    Obama started the “Tonya Harding” insult?

    This thug needs to go! Does anyone think he was not referring to his opponent or that he wasn’t hoping that it would get into the media drive?

  • moononpluto

    Actually guys, i just had an indepth look at that gallup defection poll and its worse than Obama than they are letting on.

    If you watch the video on Gallup,

    If Obama is the nominee, only 59% of Clinton’s voters will vote for him, 28% will bolt for McCain, leaving 13% voting neither of them.

    If HRC is the nominee, get this, 72% of Obamas voters will vote for her and 19% for McCain and 9% neither.

    So in reality, Obama loses 41% of Clinton voters and Clinton loses only 28% of his voters. I can see why the msm didnt want to go into the figures.

  • mj

    Do they have an ethnic breakdown? My hunch is outside of african american intelligensia, most aa’s are part of the 71% that would vote for Hill. I’m betting it’s the elite whites who say they won’t. Not that is something the media isn’t reporting.

  • neetabug

    Hi there,

    I am new to this site. Someone on Hillarys site recommended this site. This forum is great.

    On the Wright discussion, I am so glad Hillary spoke out. She should have mentioned Barak was one of the ones calling for Imus to get fired also.

    I am an AA I have called my pastor out many times. I would have not sit in a church that preaches such hatred. I am also tired of the AA pundits saying this goes on in all AA churches. I have e-mailed CNN, MSNBC and the radio stations to tell them so.

    I don’t know what is going on in this world, it seems as if the devils has arrived, remember he can make
    vinegar taste like candy. Watch out America, something is strange going on.

  • mj

    neetabug, welcome. I totally agree. I’m white, but I’ve been to a number of african american churches. Are they exciting, passionate places of worship? You bet. Did I ever hear anything close to Wright’s rantings? NEVER.

    Good to have you aboard.

  • Idunn

    I don’t know what is going on in this world, it seems as if the devils has arrived, remember he can make
    vinegar taste like candy. Watch out America, something is strange going on.

    Neeta, you sound just like my mom. Which is high praise indeed, by the way. 🙂

  • neetabug

    PS forgot to mentioned i e-mailed the DNC to let them know i as an AA will not vote for Obama if he gets the nominee if FlA & MI votes are not counted. I told them i am not the only AA who feels this way. So far i know Fifty AA that feels this way. Obama can fool some people but he can’t fool me

  • moononpluto

    I also remember my dear old mother, when she said,

    If it looks too good to be true, it is, and will taste like shit when you bite into it.

    Her words, she never minced them.

  • I gotta say, I think Tucker Carlson does much better as a “guest” than a “host”.

  • Idunn

    Speaking of my Mom, I forgot to tell you guys this: remember me telling you about my moms cousin, Ettie? The one who refused to speak to my mom because she was voting for HRC? She called my Mom on Easter Sunday and apologized. Said the Lord put it on her heart to call and tell my Mom that she was wrong.

    LOL…Ettie is a crazy old bird, but she’s got alot of intergrity. 🙂

  • BTW, I’ve said this many times, No Obambi for me. If he somehow manages to slime his way into the GE, well, McCain for prez. I will not accept Hill as VP either (although I don’t think that is likely). It is either Hill or bust.

  • Idunn

    Also Neeta, we have alot of AA’s that post here (I’m bi-racial), and we’ve had ALOT of Rev. Riding Dirty discussions around here since that story broke. I don’t know where these hateful, crackpot churches are, but none of US have ever been to one.

  • Artiste

    Hi Neetabug and welcome!

    Idunn….I cannot compare to Fashionista, but thanks! LOL

  • mj

    Remember how Brazile called Wright a moderate. LOL

  • neetabug

    Thanks guys,

    I will be going to Philadelphis on the 18th. We are chartering a bus to go to Philadelphia to help canvas the neighborhoods in Philly. Hope to see you all there. My T-Shirt will say I am sticking with Hillary all the way to the Whitehouse

  • Idunn

    intergrity?

    Lord…I need to get into bed. 🙄

  • birdgal

    Artiste: I don’t blame you for not taking that job. Nights suck.

  • Artiste

    @Idunn….syntax, please 😀

    “Said the Lord put it on her heart to call and tell my Mom that she was wrong.”

    that She, Ettie was wrong, or your mom was! LOL

    the former sounds like something MO would do!

  • Idunn

    Good for you, Neeta! make alot of noise when you guys get there! 🙂

    I’ll be hitting NC here shortly. Can’t wait!

  • Artiste

    opps THE LATTER is something like MO would do

    sorry

    caught that right when I hit send

  • Artiste

    MJ….with the exchanges I have had with DB, i can see how SHE sees as a moderate!

  • Idunn

    that She, Ettie was wrong, or your mom was!

    Seriously, shut up, Cracker! I told you I was sick! 😡

    Ettie called my mom to say that she, ETTIE, was wrong. Ya happy? 😉

  • Artiste

    Neeta…that sounds great. Where are you going from?

  • Artiste

    LOL Idunn….

    i luvs ya anyway.

  • Idunn

    I laugh every time I use the word “cracker” by the way. I never used that word in my whole life. See what Professor Obama has turned me into? 😉

  • mj

    Excellent, nettie. ‘m going to PA for the last week before the primary.

  • mj

    Professor Obama…you are so funny. 🙂

  • Idunn

    Ugh, I’m not only feeling like crap today, I’m also feeling useless since I can’t phone bank. 🙁

    Doesn’t anyone have some links we can pass around? Anything?

  • Artiste

    Idunn….make a cup of hot tea with honey and lemon…and a shot of Scotch

  • Idunn

    Professor Obama…you are so funny.

    Well, he’s lecturing all of us, even though HE’S the one in trouble, so it fits, doesn’t it? 😉

  • Artiste

    Idunn…B Merrys latest is ready to go out…On McPeek and his anti-Israel stance

  • mj

    Yeah, we need links.

    At the height of the Obama frenzy some woman on tv started to refer to him as Dr.Obama, I thought, oh sweetie, take of the hopium goggles, this guy is no Dr.King.

  • ^ Typical White Person

  • Artiste

    @mj “At the height of the Obama frenzy”

    CAN WE NOW SAFELY ASSUME THIS IS OVER?

  • mj

    Idunn Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 11:22 am
    Professor Obama…you are so funny.

    Well, he’s lecturing all of us, even though HE’S the one in trouble, so it fits, doesn’t it?

    My sister said that about him a year ago. She said he is so professory, an aa John Kerry. LOL

  • Idunn

    I think I sent the McPeek stuff out yesterday. Or maybe that was the Wright/Palestine stuff. Who knows? Everything is running together now. 🙁

    I’ll go check Rezkowatch.

  • mj

    Artiste Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 11:24 am
    @mj “At the height of the Obama frenzy”

    CAN WE NOW SAFELY ASSUME THIS IS OVER?

    I sense it is.

  • Idunn

    an aa John Kerry

    Ah HELL NO…ya’ll aren’t sticking Kerry on us! That’s the work of you blue eyed devils right there. 😉

  • ABM90

    News: MSM now paying their Trash Force of Has-Beens,Wanna-Bees and Retread Anchors,in Hard Cash.No more Checks.Just Pieces of Silver.

  • Artiste

    kaffeen….nothing typical about you doll! You have to be BO ganny (the white one) to be typical…

    but my tshirt should be arriving any day now…

    wonder if it is safe to wear! LOL

  • Idunn

    this guy is no Dr.King.

    Maybe the procologist, Dr. King.

  • Artiste

    Idunn…John Kerry IS a typical White Person

  • Idunn

    By the way, if you’re gay, you can not claim “typical white person status”. It’s in the manual.

  • Artiste

    Idunn….I gotta go put my DARKS in the dryer…do another load then put the WHITES in to wash

    BRB

    (please notice, the darks went first, and there are twice as many of them)

    LOL

  • Idunn

    Idunn…John Kerry IS a typical White Person

    You’re gonna have alot of praying to do tonight, my friend.

  • Artiste

    WEll Idunn…I can’t be typical gay either. I didn’t get THAT manual either. No backwards baseball caps, not a beer drinker, don’t care for football and I don’t have short hair.

  • Idunn

    You’re a rebel, Artiste. 😉

  • Artiste

    Idunn…why? JK PRIDES HIMSELF on his all-White background, where as the rest of US are mutts in one way or another

    perhaps that should have read JOHN KERRY is a TYPICAL White person

    😉

  • Democratic Presidential Nomination Rasmussen Tracking Obama 45, Clinton 45 Tie

  • Artiste

    Idunn….II have often thought that is also why I am single! LOL

  • mj

    kaffeen Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 11:32 am
    Democratic Presidential Nomination Rasmussen Tracking Obama 45, Clinton 45 Tie

    Well, that’s down for Hill. I honestly can’t believe this guy isn’t tanking.

  • Idunn

    Kaff, bear with me here, but didn’t he go up from the last Ras poll? Am I misremembering?

  • mj

    Both Obama and Kerry are cousins of Bush, right?

  • Don’t know Idunn….MJ ’tis Rasmussen, take it for what it is worth (very little).

  • Idunn

    I’m eating this soup and then I’m going to bed. Looks like it’s gonna be a slow news day anyway.

    (watch Bambi announce he’s dropping out right after I pull the sheets over my head)

  • Doesn’t appear that the Bosnia thing had any traction with voters though.

  • Idunn

    I knew it wouldn’t. Voters don’t care about stuff like that. Not to any GREAT degree anyway.

  • plural

    And the video proves she was in Bosnia, and it wasn’t a lavish ceremony or lots of parade. It was a war zone, and she was there, trying to help out.

    Bless her.

  • Idunn

    Trying to change the subject of Wright with the subject of Bosnia is alot like trying to put out a forest fire with a lawn sprinkler.

  • Idunn

    And the video proves she was in Bosnia, and it wasn’t a lavish ceremony or lots of parade. It was a war zone, and she was there, trying to help out.

    And no disrespect intended, did anyone ever see Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan or Jackie Kennedy ever do THAT?

  • Artiste

    Kaff…Idunn…also it seems pretty clear that the MSM reaction was SO Over the top about the Bosnia thing, it appears as another HIT JOB and GANG RAPE by Bambi and “His Boyz” that it will in fact help Hillary in the longer run.

    It was an OBVIOUS smoke screen by them for Wright and Obama’s lack of transparency on his RECORD, and his LACK OF DIRECT QUESTIONING by the PRESS

    People get it more and more that this guy is a COMPLETE PHONY

  • MSNBC is trying their best to make a story out of Hillary simply saying “Wright would not be my pastor”…..News articles with titles like “Clinton campaign RIPS Obama/Wright”….lol….this channel is such a farce. Hillary just said something very benign and something that reflects the majority of voters opinions about that. He wouldn’t be my pastor either, but then again, I’m just a typical white person…lol.

  • plural

    Eleanor R would have done it 🙂

  • Idunn

    He wouldn’t be MY pastor either…guess that makes me a typical…ummm…racial mutt.

  • Idunn

    Eleanor R would have done it

    True. But then, I see ALOT of similarities between HRC and ER. 🙂

  • Something tells me that Martin Luther King would never have uttered the words “typical white person” in public. Something also tells me that JFK would never have uttered the words “typical black person” in public. Let’s stop with the myth making, Obambi is not on the level of either of those men. He is, as is becoming my best analysis of him, “A Big Phony”.

  • Artiste

    Kaff…isn’t that COMPLETE BS about Hill’s comments on Wright…and the LOUDER they get about Hill’s comments, the more it sound like THEY support Reverend Wright

  • Idunn

    And FDR too, I might add.

  • Artiste

    OK gang…gotta get in the tub. I have a client (new) to meet at 1:30 and give her a price on a job before the BANK ARRIVES for financing!

    LOL….that doubles the price right there! LOL

    Ahhhh…Capitalism! Gotta love it!

    I’ll be back

  • Idunn

    The saddest thing is, I don’t think Bambi ever really got what was so offensive about that remark. He just tries to back peddle and say it’s a generational thing. But that’s every bit as bad! So if you’re white and you’re over 60, you’re typical?? How is THAT any damned better??

    He’s got to be retarded. Honest to god.

  • Idunn

    See ya, Arty.

  • plural

    And she actually knows about the New Deal, she doesn’t just talk about it.

  • Artiste

    ROFL Idunn….

    fee better…and if pulling the sheets up over your head makes Bambi drop out….what are you waiting for! GET TO BED!

  • Artiste

    LOL…..

    Idunn…maybe that ought to have been COVERS…not SHEETS!

    LMAO!

    BFN

  • plural

    “typical __________ person” tends to be offensive, whatever the blank is filled with.

  • OandrewD

    The Bosnia thing is a non issue

  • mj

    Actually, MLK got a lot of flack from a few prominent african americans when he began to include poor whites in his cause. I adore MLK. He is our modern day founding father. I studied him for years starting in grade school. His birth name was micheal, he was later baptized martin. Did you know that?

  • Idunn

    My mother always quotes this bible passage: out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

  • Ronald

    greetings all…

    Idunn- did you get the links I posted in the last thread about the BOs stock purchases? They made news last year when no one was paying attention to him but I think its a good story to push now. It really shows his hypocrisy.

    If he only gave 1% to charity that doesn’t make for good christian charity – or muslim charity for that matter which requires 10% of income be donated to charity.

    So what did he do with the 10% windfall from his book sales which is approximately $100,000? he bought stock in Skyterra and AVI BioPharma and then helped pass legistlation and secure funding for these companies to make Avian Flu.

    Hello? Ethics? Hello? Insider Trading? Hello? media????

    Obamas says in his defense, this wasn’t a whole lot of money. OK. Isn’t that more than twice the money Martha Stewart invested and went to JAIL for?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/us/politics/07obama.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

  • Artiste….what type of Artistic thing do you do. My wife and I just bought a house, doing some renovations. Got some ideas?

  • Ronald

    Idunn? I keep missing you!

  • Idunn

    I got those links and passed them around. I actually knew about the biopharm thing a long time ago, but there’s just so much dirt on this guy, I can’t even keep up with it all.

  • Tiny Dancer

    And no disrespect intended, did anyone ever see Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan or Jackie Kennedy ever do THAT?

    Bringing up Barbara reminds me of that quote of hers during Katrina. Where she said something about how all the people living in the Astrodome were underprivileged anyways so it was working out well for them.

  • Ronald very interesting….I will investigate that one more. That may be worthy of a news suggestion email blast to 3000 media contacts.

  • Idunn

    Kaff…google “spacegirlart”

  • Ronald

    How is it that Martha Stewart goes to jail and this guy goes on campaigning for exactly the same thing?

  • mj

    Actually, most christian religions ask for tithe of 10%.

  • AmericanGal

    Wow, not only is Hillary on Greta tonight but she’s on Hannity and Colmes as well! From the Fox News website:

    Hannity and Colmes:

    Wednesday, March 26:
    • Special Interview: Democratic presidential candidate Senator Hillary Clinton is in the fight of her life. From facing the Bosnia backlash to her views on Reverend Jeremiah Wright. She joins us …

    Greta On the Record:

    Wednesday, March 26:
    • A special interview with Hillary Clinton. She’s in the fight of her life, from facing Bosnia backlash to her views on Reverend Wright — Hillary Clinton goes ‘On the Record’

  • Idunn

    Where she said something about how all the people living in the Astrodome were underprivileged anyways so it was working out well for them.

    SAY WHAT??!!

    I never heard that quote. DAMN!

  • Ronald

    you cant even count the 1% since most of it went to that racist church as an investment to winning over the black community to back him in his political career.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Even Hillary realizes that 1. Fox has been halfway fair to her and 2. Fox has more than 2 viewers.

  • Idunn, is Artiste and Space one in the same?

  • mj

    Yes, Idunn, she said that. It’s a famous quote.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Oh Idunn! It’s the best.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/national/nationalspecial/07barbara.html

    There’s an actual audio quote of it somewhere too, you have to hear her saying it.

  • Caroline

    Yay…Hillary on Greta. I like Greta.

  • Independent Ben

    Hi all,

    I came this morning just so I could vent. 😉 After days of beating Hillary up over this Bosnia thing, I think MSM have moved on (she changed the subject).

    I wish they would leave her alone about her first lady years. She was a great First Lady, and she pretty much “broke the mold” as far as first ladies go. She was the first first lady to enter a war zone since Eleanor Roosevelt, and there was definitely a chance for sniper fire that they prepared for. I know Hillary wasn’t trying to intentionally mislead anyone by the way she told the story. I even think Robert Novak could have been right when he said that Hillary likes telling the story and that it maybe kind of “evolved” over the years. She’s very human, and I love her for that.

    As far as Hillary bringing up Wright – I love it 😉 She had every right to finally answer that question – and I’m glad she did. The Obama camp can jump up and down and whine about it all they want – but it’s a serious issue and he’s pretty much stuck with it.

  • Ronald

    Idunn-

    No its true. Babs was summarily sent back to Maine to tend to her petunias. The exact quote:

    What I’m hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them.

    hear it for yourself:
    marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2005/09/05/PM200509051.html

    And yes, there isn’t any comparison. At least HRC was in BOSNIA and not serving tea or baking cookies at the WH.

  • Idunn

    “And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this – this is working very well for them.” Barbara Bush

    Wow…the apple really doesn’t fall far from the tree, does it?

    Unbelievable.

  • mj

    What I’m hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas.

    What a b*tch!

  • Idunn

    Well damn, now I don’t feel so baad for saying she looked like George Washington. LOL!

  • HillaryforTexas

    Idunn, I can’t find the video of Barbara Bush talking about how people driven out of their homes by Katrina were actually “better off”, but yes, it was a real clueless Marie Antionette “let them eat cake” moment. What a cold-hearted witch.

    I do have audio: http://nosheep.net/wp-content/upload/bb.mp3

  • Independent Ben

    Oh, this morning on Morning Joe, he started off playing Hillary talking about the pastor, and he did everything but stand up and cheer. 😉 Poor Mika didn’t know what to say. Joe Scarborough really likes Hillary, and it’s kind of nice. 🙂

  • HillaryforTexas

    Audio of Ms. Bush being a cold-hearted witch. Add http.

    nosheep.net/wp-content/upload/bb.mp3

  • Idunn

    I think Hannity kind of digs her too. And I KNOW Buchanan respects her, because I’ve heard him say so many times.

    What can we say, she a Uniter. 🙂

  • Ronald

    Hey all!

    Its a good day for a money bomb! There is a contest to win tickets to see Elton John on the web site. Donate today!

  • Idunn

    I’d like to see a clip on her on Morning Joe. Is it on youtube?

  • dot48

    CALL DNC TODAY AND ASK FOR DONNA BRAZIL TO STEP DOWN AND TO COUNT THE VOTES IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN

    Main Phone Number:
    202-863-8000
    (For questions about contributions, please call 877-336-7200)

    I just called and let em have it with no holding back. I can tell they are getting bombarded.

    Come on folks. CALL.CALL.CALL

    Tell them NO MORE MONEY from us.

  • Idunn

    Aye aye, Dot…I’ll get on that before I head back to bed.

  • Idunn

    I feel bad enough today to actually WANT to bitch at somebody anyway, so it’ll feel good to go off.

  • Independent Ben

    Idunn, I’m not sure. I’ll check their website.

  • Idunn

    Look how I got you guys fetching for me today…and all just because I said I was sick and batted my eyelashes alittle. 😉

    But seriously, thanks. My brain is on the fritz for real today.

  • dot48

    Then he says in his speech that YES he was there.
    also, the media isn’t calling BO on his LIES about Rev. Wright .. He was all over the media when this story first broke saying that the NEVER was around or heard these controversial statements…

    Then on the radio he lies even more and says that he talked to Wright about the stuff when he said in the other interviews that HAD HE KNOWN he would have talked to him.

  • mj

    Idunn Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
    I think Hannity kind of digs her too. And I KNOW Buchanan respects her, because I’ve heard him say so many times.

    Buchanon is the big one. Hillary was the cause of his “culture war”. he called her a “radical feminist”, and predicted she would run for President in 1992.

  • If anyone wants to hound pledged delegates into switching sides here is a link with some states delegates. We only need around 80 of Obama’s to switch sides to get even in pledged delegates. I have found that many are state representatives.

    http://www.goobergunch.net/45demconroll.html

  • mp

    All the while while BO and others have been comparing BO as like a MLK/JKF/RJK/Ghandi/Reagan, well the one person he REALLY is like is WRIGHT!

    HE IS WRIGHT!

    not a JKF/MKL/others…!

  • mj

    In ’92 he predicted she would eventually run for Pres.

    I heard that Joe S. also said hes been extremely impressed with Hill and Chelsea in this campaign. Two women speaking out for waht they believe in. 🙂

  • Idunn

    In ‘92 he predicted she would eventually run for Pres.

    Well, so did her high school teachers. 🙂

  • mj

    Yes, but he wasn’t at all happy about it. Now he seems to prefer her of the three remaining.

  • Idunn

    Ugh…I’m really too sick to be on here. I gotta hit the bed folks.

    Scream loud enough to wake me if anything important happens. 🙂

  • Ronald

    Idunn- get some rest. you’re feverish
    :mrgreen:

  • jithendra

    >>Ghandi

    gandhii… hellow ????

  • dot48

    got a hold of the campaign in PA and passed on the Ron Fournier AP article .. also explained to them that the national office will not clean out it’s mailbox for messages and they won’t give you a live person to talk to.

    I told them to research the AP/Fournier article out real well and see if the outposts were what Hillary remembered…just a thought.

    Give em hell Hillary.

    Called DNC again too..used my cellphone and gave the HELL. I loathe Donna Brazil

  • dot48

    CLINTON EXPLAINS TO HALPERIN:

    news.yahoo.com/s/time/exclusiveclintonvowstopushon

  • rgb44hrc

    Yesterday, I mentioned David Brooks’ article mentioning other sources that narrow Hillary’s chances of winning the nomination down to 5 – 10%, and uses this as a means for suggesting she bow out “for the good of the party”. FAT CHANCE.

    We (and I don’t just mean “we” more activist-types here on this web site, the the We the people voters across the country who voted for her, or who want her to be on the ballot when their state’s turn comes up) want her to keep fighting, because neither candidaet is going to reach the committed delegate threshold. We ARE headed to a floor fight in Denver, and the next few months are a lead up to that.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Now, for some Talking Heads who aren’t smoking Obamopium: This Week’s McLaughlin Group, all panelists gave her healthy odds of winning the nomination, in the area of about 50%. Even Clarence. (Unfortunately, the transcript is not yet available from the 3/21 taping yet.) I suppose they a) understand that Obama can’t hit the committed delegate threshold to win without a floor fight, b) see the way the remainder of the primaries are starting to look, c) acknowledge that Obama has been under-vetted, and that recent revelations have more than tarnished his Golden Boy image.

  • I guess I’m on an optomism trip this morning. I mean, things shake down, the truth comes out, give a ‘uniter’ enough rope….

    As Crawford said, the videos of Hillary landing among soldiers, in a gritty setting, speak louder than the talking heads. She made 80 such visits, and got confused what happened which date? ALL our candidates should have such problems!

    Obama disses her Irish peace work, making it breaking news — and a lot of Irish big names speak out and get covered. If Obama hadn’t made it controversial, it would have stayed buried in an old resume.

    Okay, the following is woo-woo.

    We’ve seen all through this that ‘mr uniter’ is dividing groups that have never been divided. (All out of the Alinsky playbook: first ‘rub raw the sores of discontent’ and get people polarized and fighting, then step in to reconcile them; but when does the uniting start?)

    He’s divided Democrats, boomers vs youth, old Blacks against young Blacks, families (Kennedys, Jacksons). Now it’s Black church against Black church.

    If this trend continues, who’s next? Obama wants to show Trinity as non-controversial, get Wright out of sight. So the new pastor preaches another inflammatory sermon on Easter! Wright wanted to speak in Florida and it suddenly got cancelled. — Maybe at some point Wright will get tired of being treated like a crazy uncle. Wright vs Obama? The church could sell tickets!

    From a distance, it’s looked like the DNC was in the tank for Obama. But Dean has to have some survival instinct somewhere (he did try to get revotes). So at some point — Dean vs Brazile?

  • Berkeley Vox

    For anyone who hasn’t already gotten this, email from Chelsea this morning:
    —-

    Dear Democrats,

    When I heard that Elton John was throwing a concert in New York for my mom’s campaign, I knew it was going to be a night I didn’t want to miss.

    Want to join me there?

    My mom’s campaign is bringing two supporters and their guests to New York on April 9 for both Elton John’s one-night-only concert and the party after the concert. It’s going to be a great night and a great time.

    It’s such an important time to support my mom’s campaign. There are big contests coming up, starting with Pennsylvania, and I know she can win with your support. She’s working so hard out on the campaign trail, and I know that your support makes a real difference to her and this campaign.

    Enter now and you might join me, my mom, and Elton John for his one-night-only concert in New York on April 9. Make a contribution today.

    I talk to a lot of people who are excited to see my mom win and be the president we all need — and who are working hard to help make that happen. It means so much to me to know that there are so many people like you who believe in my mom and are working to help her win. I know that she’ll be such a great president and she will win, but not without all our help. And what better time to help than right now?

    Please contribute today. Enter and you might be joining me, my mom, and Elton John for a concert in New York!

    I’m so grateful for everything you’re doing to help my mom win!

    Thank you!
    Chelsea

  • wbboei

    RE CANTWELLS POSITION-

    Her campaign office called me today and clarified their position. You may recall that yesterday, their dc office read me an excerpt from the Columbian Journal which set forth the criteria she would use to select a candidate, i.e. most states, most pledged delegates and popular vote, with pledged votes being primary. Today they said nothing about which of those criteria would be primary and emphasized the conjunctive ‘and’. Also, they said Cantwell was emphatic that she still supported Hillary, this was accurately reported in the Columbia Journal but bloggers have “truncated” the message. I told them that their own dc office had done the same thing by not reading me that she still supported Hillary and they should perhaps look into that. I also suggested that they get out a press release to clarify her position since by their own admission a number of people and others have inquired.

    Bottomline: I will wait to see if there is a clarification, what it says and hold off sending Cantwell the fire and brimstone letter I wrote last night. I take them at their word that Cantwell still supports Hillary.

  • mei,

    If it matters, I think Obama used the ‘knee-cap’ metaphor back in 2006, perhaps in a New Yorker interview? Expressing lots of admiration for Hillary, saying something about if he runs he doesn’t want to ‘knee-cap’ her.

  • mj

    195, it was last summer when he announced he’d be more agressive with her.

  • LJ

    SO!!! I just met Hillary. It was truly amazing. She wanted to see all the interns from her senate and campaign staff in NYC and we all got to meet her and take a picture. She was wearing her pink top and black pants and she looked radiant. She was so sweet and warm and now she knows who I am. Best day of my life!

  • mp

    IDunn:

    The best way one can start a 3rd party is by calling on people who have not endorsed any candidate in any party and asking for their views and seeing if they can form a new party…even if they do not win, the idea is that we are VERY TIRED of this crap.

    I called 3 undecided superdelegate SENATORS this morning on this topic. I openly said that I strongly support Hillary but it looks like we need another option to think about besides BO!

    And two of the senators I called are on foreign policy/armed services committees….need for national security concerns tht would make us support McCain.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Nice, LJ! Wow!!

  • mj Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:55 am

    Do they have an ethnic breakdown? My hunch is outside of african american intelligensia, most aa’s are part of the 71% that would vote for Hill. I’m betting it’s the elite whites who say they won’t. … that is something the media isn’t reporting.

    Class-wise, look at the options. Obama’s latte liberals can vote for Nader (they’ve probabaly been voting for him for years). Blue-collars, including AA’s, don’t like Nader, so they’d be choosing between Hillary and McCain.

  • neetabug Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:57 am

    Hi there,

    I am new to this site. Someone on Hillarys site recommended this site. This forum is great.

    On the Wright discussion, I am so glad Hillary spoke out. She should have mentioned Barak was one of the ones calling for Imus to get fired also.

    I am an AA I have called my pastor out many times. I would have not sit in a church that preaches such hatred. I am also tired of the AA pundits saying this goes on in all AA churches. I have e-mailed CNN, MSNBC and the radio stations to tell them so.

    Welcome, Neeta! Are any AA churches or denominations speaking out as a group, saying “Don’t class us with Wright, Trinity is not a typical AA church”?

  • McCain is a known quantity. Four more years of Cheney/Halliburton, but McCain is sane and has some intelligence.

    Obama — is an incompetent nut who would have puppet masters pulling him all different directions and have no common sense to oppose them, and lord knows what he’d do to international problems.

  • mj

    Well, not all of Trinity is like Wright’s either. Wright is a special case.

  • mj

    My point was more that aa’s like Hillary. They are not voing against her, just for Obama.

  • mj

    LJ, that’s great! I’m jealous.

  • mj

    OMG! I love the Murtha vid on Hill’s blog.

  • Idunn Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 11:11 am

    Also Neeta, we have alot of AA’s that post here (I’m bi-racial),

    Idunn, sometime if you feel like it, what about telling us something about growing up bi-racial? There are a LOT of bi-racials in the post-1960 generation, though BO has been acting like he’s something unique. Since age 10 he was brought up by his white grandparents in a protected environment; these Black and other relatives were only around him in early childhood, or met after he was grown.

  • lninla

    Taylor Marsh links to this article about the double standards of the press and how despicably they have given a free-pass to FL and MI disenfranchisement:

    talkleft.com/story/2008/3/26/10312/3012

    By Big Tent Democrat

    Speaking for me only

    When the Media and the Left blogs deplore the negativity of the Democratic presidential campaign, especially from the Clinton campaign, they ignore that they are a major reason why it has happened. Why? Because they attack the Clinton campaign no matter what it does while ignoring or defending every negative attack and questionable tactic of the Obama campaign.

    The examples are legion. There is not an ounce of doubt that it was the campaigns challenging Hillary Clinton last fall that first engaged in negative attacks. The Media and some of the Left blogs were imploring the Barack Obama campaign to do that and certainly not a single word of reproach was written about it.

    Led by Tim Russert and Brian Williams in the October 2007 debate, and followed eagerly by the entire NBC network and many Left blogs, the attacks on Hillary Clinton, especially on her character, were applauded on a daily basis. More.

    I criticized the character attacks and dirty politics. I was quite alone in this at the time. (I dropped my endorsement of Chris Dodd as a result.) And Clinton suffered because of these personal attacks against her. To wit, Barack Obama was rewarded for his dirty politics last Fall.

    The Obama/Clinton rules were in full flower in the run up to New Hampshire. The Media and some Left blogs led the charge – cheeering negative attacks on Clinton, attacking and distorting the Clinton campaign’s responses and attacking her for trumped charges of negative campaigning. They were ready to dance on Hillary Clinton’s political grave.

    Since then the rules have been locked in. No matter what happens or is said – to NBC and to some Left blogs, Hillary is evil and Obama is without sin. The coverage of the Nevada at large district issue led to the most ludicrous charges of “disenfranchisement” from the Media and some Left bloggers.

    Then, expecting Clinton to be knocked out in Texas, NBC and some Left blogs were bitterly disappointed and argued Clinton should drop out even though she won both Ohio and Texas (some even float the idea that the Texas caucus results were the true contest in Texas, rather than what they were – proof positive that caucuses disenfranchise voters.)

    Indeed, disenfranchisement now becomes the key guiding principle of some Obama supporters – they support it at every turn. My own personal anger is tied up in the attitudes about the Michigan and Florida revotes. Everyone knows that Barack Obama blocked revotes in Florida and Michigan. No one outside of Michigan and Florida seems to care.

    Let me put it bluntly, the dirtiest politics practiced in this campaign was Barack Obama’s blocking of the Michigan and Florida revotes. There is nothing uglier in politics, nothing dirtier, than blocking voters’ chances to vote. The stain on Barack Obama for this will not wash away with me. (BTW, I am not saying Clinton would not have done the same thing, I THINK she would have. But she did not.) Especially since I believe it would have helped Obama in the general election.

    The Clinton campaign realizes that no matter what they do, they will be declared evil. They realize that no matter what Obama does, he will be declared a saint. In such an environment, both the Clinton campaign and the Obama campaign will feel no restraint to their behavior.

    The Media and some of the Left blogs have created this climate. Pols are pols and do what they do. I expect nothing else from them. I once expected honest assessments from some in the Media and from most in the Left blogs. I no longer do. Clearly neither do the campaigns.

    If the headlines and coverage do not change no matter what is done by the campaigns, then you can not expect the headlines and coverage to matter to the campaigns in terms of tactics. For all those in the Media and in the Left blogs deploring the negativity of the campaign, I suggest they look in the mirror for the main culprits.

  • Berkeley Vox

    1950Democrat wrote:

    Obama — is an incompetent nut who would have puppet masters pulling him all different directions and have no common sense to oppose them, and lord knows what he’d do to international problems.
    ——
    Yes yes yes. The thing that drives me nuts about Obama is that he has no vision. He’s a dyed-in-the-wool, traditional liberal (he’s been rated “most liberal” among all Senators) but somehow, he thinks he’s bipartisan, even though he has no track record whatsoever of bipartisan success. His entire schtick is basically, “well, when I’m President, I just plan on charming everyone into agreeing with me.” Only the most naive voter would fall for that.

  • rjk1957 Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    If anyone wants to hound pledged delegates into switching sides here is a link with some states delegates. We only need around 80 of Obama’s to switch sides to get even in pledged delegates. I have found that many are state representatives.

    http://www.goobergunch.net/45demconroll.html

    Ooooh, that sounds useful!!! Getting an Obama SD to switch would help us two points on the gap, and be bad momentum for him.

    So maybe we should be targeting some of their constituents.

  • wbboei

    MEMORANDUM

    TO: FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN VOTERS

    FR: DEAN, BRAZILLE, PELOSI AND OBAMA LLC.

    RE: HOW TO DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY

    1. First, you have no right to vote in the presidential primary because others screwed up and BO wont let us fix it. (Translation: fuck you).

    2. Second, you must vote for the candidate we choose in the general election for the good of the party. (Translation: relax and enjoy it).

    3. Third, you must contribute to the DNC because the Republicans want to destroy the country and we alone can save it. (Translation: oh wud sum powr the giftie gee us to see ouselvs as iters see us)

  • wbboei

    MEMORANDUM

    TO: FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN VOTERS

    FR: DEAN, BRAZILLE, PELOSI AND OBAMA LLC.

    RE: HOW TO SNATCH DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY

    1. First, you have no right to vote in the presidential primary because others screwed up and BO wont let us fix it. (Translation: fuck you).

    2. Second, you must vote for the candidate we choose in the general election for the good of the party. (Translation: relax and enjoy it).

    3. Third, you must contribute to the DNC because the Republicans want to destroy the country and we alone can save it. (Translation: oh wud sum powr the giftie gee us to see ouselvs as iters see us)

  • B Merryfield

    Good afternoon Hillfans.

    NEW OBAMA SCANDAL.

    Read links at RezkoWatch. Larry Johnson at No Quarter has the story (on RW page). No time for something new but all the background links are here.

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/one-degree-of-separation-obama_26.html

  • mj

    I’m not sure if everyone has already seen this particular footage, but there is a great news reel of Hill’s visit on Hillaryspeaksforme. The reporter describes her as going to one of the most dangerous outposts, one even the Pres did not visit(nor the celebrities). The reporter says she arranged the trip herself to let the soldiers know americans support tham and their mission. Reporter says she has to navigate carefully between looking like she is doing the President’s job and her own. Reporter says the outpost lies between the serb and muslim territory, and is surrounded by landmines. She looks so presidential!

  • mj

    I love how in the scaife video she says she could talk all day about Katrina and the board is like go for it. People really like her once they meet her.

  • lninla

    Yes, MJ – posted that video yesterday, though nobody seemed to have watched it:

    Clinton in Bosnia warzone outposts:

    youtube.com/watch?v=Pef5AUt-tic

  • admin

    Thanks Ininla. That article reads like what we wrote back in April 2007. When we wrote it many thought we were off the deep end. Now, it is conventional wisdom.

  • dot48

    MJ… is there a direct link for that footage..I can send it to the campaign if you can point me to it.

  • mj

    dot, it’s above.

  • mj

    Really, the story didn’t need any embellishing. That video and that reporter’s description of events is better than the story.

  • birdgal

    B. Merryfield: Just read about Craig on “Noquarter.” How is he getting away with this? How come no one has called him out? Especially, the Clinton’s? How can he work for Obama, if he was associated with the Clinton’s law firm? Has anyone sent this out to the media?

  • mj

    I hear BO is in greensbore stealing all of Hill’s kitchen table ideas and slamming her on wait for it…”lobbyist”.

  • lninla

    Admin – your infinite vision and wisdom prevail.

    Now – the issue is how can the liberal media tilt back to fair and balanced?

    Not only is the Clinton campaign battling the BO campaign, but now they have to smartly lay traps for the media itself! – Passport-gate and Ferraro vs. Wright might’ve played themselves out naturally to reveal big media’s hypocrisy, but I hope there’s more of this to come.

    (for B Merry) – I hope it’s Greg Craig.

  • winhillary

    HEY! No paper trail for Obama in the senate this is a must read everyone!

    thehill.com/campaign-2008/judicial-watch-obama-intended-to-leave-no-paper-trail-2008-03-26.html

  • lninla

    CNN – right now showing BO in Greensboro – funny they cut him off as soon as he talked about healthcare for seniors. The anchor then reiterates what BO said re: Wright:

    said he was not in chuch on the days that the most controversial statements were made, and that Wright gave 3 sermons a week per year and that media took the most offensive 5-6 clips…

    (blah, blah, lie, lie.)

  • Caroline

    Obama is nothing but a LIAR. I despise how media is not doing it’s job and not calling out the lies regarding Wright. The idiot still claims that he wasn’t in church when controversial statements were made but in his speech he said he was. Which is it Mr Obama Bin Lyin? This man that wants to be POTUS is trying to tell us that he had no clue about Wright after his BFF Oprah left the church years ago? What a LIAR and I can’t stand him.

  • dot48

    crossfire .. no longer on air
    in the money .. no longer on air
    paulazahnnow .. replaced by campbellbrown@cnn.com

    I’ve sent wolf and lou already.

  • Ronald

    Talk of the Nation on NPR taking calls now about Hillary Clinton. Should she drop out? CALL IF YOU CAN.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/talk/2008/03/name_that_political_junkie.html

    http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=5

    cant find the number ….

  • mj

    I can not believe he’s back to defending that church.

  • Ronald

    too late. its over. But, Leslie Bennetts ( author of the Feminine Mystique) did a great job defending her and refused to back down.

  • birdgal

    The point that people are not talking about, is the fact that BO belonged to a “church” that spewed white hatred, anti-seminitism, and anti-Americanism for years. He has exposed his daughters to this. Even if, he did not hear of those sermons, I’m sure he knew about them; especially, since Wright was his spiritual advisor and mentor. I don’t want a POTUS, that attended an organization like Trinity church. Would people want a member of the KKK, as POTUS? Trinity church seems like the AA version of the KKK. However, I do think, Trinity Church is an outlier for AA churches.

  • mj

    Of course he heard these sermons. I don’t believe that for a minute. He just said in his speech he heard “some” of them. Ok, which ones?

  • dot48

    The church SOLD those sermons on their website SO they must have thought THEY were pretty important ones. Enuf said

  • debbie

    off Hillary’s blog

    There is a petition that is going around which needs 10,000 signatures. They have 9,124.

    Please visit and sign this petition to have these delegates seated.

    http://www.seatourdelegates.com and
    http://www.jpetitions.com/petition/seatourdelegate

  • dot48

    americaspulse@foxnews.com .. the other one bounced

    don’t forget Hillary will be on Hannity and Colmes and on Greta tonight.

  • HillaryforTexas

    It’s not just the whites and the Jews. From a poster at Taylor Marsh, Obama’s Pastor is insulting Italians now…

    Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor emeritus of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago where Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has been a member for two decades, slurred Italians in a piece published in the most recent issue of Trumpet Newsmagazine

    “(Jesus’ enemies had their opinion about Him,” Wright wrote in a eulogy of the late scholar Asa Hilliard in the November/December 2007 issue. “The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans.”

    How many Italians in PA? Spread this around! Obama’s church spreads hate for LOTS of ethnic groups. I plan to let my husband’s entire Italian family know that they all have “garlic noses” according to Rev. Wright.

  • basil9

    Just got back and wanna post this before i forget.
    Rush in the car and it seems Wright has insulted yet ANOTHER group of white Americans. This time it’s the Italians. In the Nov/Dec issue of Trumpet, TCUU’s mag, he describes Romans as ‘looking down their garlic noses’ at JC.

    Can’t WAIT for Gerry to gear aboiut that. 👿

    OMG. I was really ROTF! Gotta admit Rush is quite the comedienne.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Um, no, WE and the press did not cherry-pick sermons. Those sermons were cherry-picked by the good Reverend himself as his BEST EVER, and released on video as such!

    HE is the one who said they were most representative of his real views, not US.

  • HillaryforTexas

    basil he actually said “Italians”, not “Romans”, which is even worse.

  • wbboei Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    RE CANTWELLS POSITION-

    Her campaign office called me today and clarified their position. You may recall that yesterday, their dc office read me an excerpt from the Columbian Journal which set forth the criteria she would use to select a candidate, i.e. most states, most pledged delegates and popular vote, with pledged votes being primary. Today they said nothing about which of those criteria would be primary and emphasized the conjunctive ‘and’. Also, they said Cantwell was emphatic that she still supported Hillary, this was accurately reported in the Columbia Journal but bloggers have “truncated” the message.

    Thanks for the encouraging news. That ‘AND’ is very important — I think some other SDs are using it too. Meaning, I suppose, that if a candidate doesn’t have ALL of the criteria mentioned, then all bets are off. 🙂

    I do think getting some other metrics circulating will help — figleaves for everyone. “Whoever the most Democrats voted for” “The most swing states” “The most electoral votes from swing states

    Last night I’d already sent her a nice note about HIllary being more electable, she’s shown the strengths that will be needed in November, etc.

  • Idunn

    The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans

    Not a crackpot church. Nope.

  • Tiny Dancer

    I’m Italian! Garlic noses recognize.

    So I’m a typical white garlic nosed person. ‘Sup stereotypes?

  • mj

    OMG, now he’s blaming italians for the Romans, and talking about garlic noses. Not only is this guy offensive, he doesn’t even understand basic history.

  • birdgal

    OMG! Garlic noses. Wright is a nut. His daughter, Jeri, works with the Trumpet newsmagazine.

  • Idunn

    You are NOT white if you are a garlic nose! Get your racial slurs straight, people!

    Incidentally, who would have EVER thought I would have an occassion in life to say, “You are not white if you’re a garlic nose”?

  • HillaryforTexas

    ‘Sup, stereotypes?

    LMAO!

  • Idunn

    he doesn’t even understand basic history.

    Well, maybe he doesn’t know much about history, but he sure knows his science. I mean, how many other scholars have figured out how to make a bomb that would target ONLY blacks and arabs? Huh? 😉

  • Idunn

    Skips right over the garlic noses and typical white folks.

  • mj

    Idunn, bwahahahaha

  • Idunn

    Anyone figured out yet what stereotype he has in his little black bag for me?

    Mudblood, maybe?

  • Tiny Dancer

    I get the typical white person from my moms Irish side. (She’s a wee bit german too). Have the Irish been offended yet?

    My dad was a very dark skinned Italian boy. He was also a tad bigoted. My mom liked to remind him just how close Africa was to Italy to piss him off.

  • basil9

    About HRC doing Hannity and greta tonight; that’s gonna f**k with Bo coz Channel 5 anchors have been trying to get BO on their shows for months and they’re PO’d that he won’t accept their invitations.

    In fact, one of the shows even has an Obama-watch for how many days have passed since he agreed to be interviewed and hasn’t shown up.

    *LOL*

  • MSNBC trying to float the Hill for VP thing again…..puke…..think again. I hope she fights till the bitter end……I’m not voting for Bambi as Prez even if Hill is on the ticket. No compromise there for me.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Idunn, what percentage black or Arab would one have to be? I mean, would the bomb pass you yourself over? Would mixed-race Obama be spared? Do you have to be “need a tan just to neutralize the fishy blueness” whitey white, or can you be brownish or olive and still survive it?

  • birdgal

    basil: the Obama-watch. Is that O’Reilly or Hannity? I think, it might be O’Reilly.

  • Idunn

    I’ll go ya one better, I doubt I’d vote for HRC for prez if Bambi was in the #2 slot.

  • Idunn

    I mean, would the bomb pass you yourself over?

    I think I might get by with just losing an arm or something. Unless it uses an actual gradient color chart, and then I might be screwed. 😉

  • I’d vote for Hill as Prez no matter who is VP. Just won’t do the same for Bambi. I refuse to let the media spin me into voting for that phony and fraud.

  • Idunn

    Anyone think maybe Reverend Riding Dirty has tourettes?

  • After kicking it around some….I’m going to vote for Hill even if she is not in the formal running for Prez. She is the best choice for President, period.

  • Idunn

    I think I might go with Sherms idea if the worst should happen. Watch the polls…if Obama is losing, I just stay home and take a bubble bath. If he’s winning, I throw on some clothes, get in the car, hold my nose and vote McCain.

  • Idunn

    Or maybe I’ll write in Rev. Wright. Seems like a fun guy. 😉

  • No matter what, if, God forbid, Obambi is the democratic nominee….he doesn’t stand a chance with everyone either writing in Hill, voting Nader, voting for McCain, or simply not voting at all.

  • mj

    Ok, his pastor is anti-semetic, anti-white, anti-american, anti-italian, and the media sits on it’s hands. Let’s imagine this is Hillary’s pastor. Would the media excuse it?

  • Idunn

    From your mouth to Gods ears, Kaff.

  • djia

    Obama Interviewed by they round table on January 28,2008

    he talks about politics and religion and Dr. Rev. Wright!!!

    w w w . religionandsocialpolicy.org/news/article.cfm?id=7644

  • No, from my hands lol 😉

  • dot48

    Idunn .. I’m training your thoughts. The DNC screwover of Hillary won’t be forgotten by November. The DNC screwover of FL and MI won’t be forgotten by November. The sicko Jeremiah Wright and his hate America speech won’t be forgotten.

    Just wait till the “patriot” Mccain starts using that photo of Obama where he refuses to pledge the flag..we’ll see how that floats.

  • Idunn

    MJ…you’re forgetting that Bambi is the antichrist. You can’t kill him with a scandal. You have to go to the Vatican and get the pope to give you some kind of special tools or something.

    Tell the Pope the garlic noses sent ya. 😉

  • Idunn

    Okay, I must be on the verge of delirium or something…I have no idea why this all seems so indredibly surreal to me all of a sudden.

    It’s like, when armeggedon comes, just before Bambi tries to make me renounce my faith in god, I’m gonna remember sitting here at this computer, saying, “Tell the pope the garlic noses sent ya.”

    :: cue twilight zone music::

  • Idunn

    And then Billy Mumy will walk out, stare me dead in the eyes and it will all be over. 😯

  • basil9

    Tiny Dancer,
    Not that I’ve heard but he did avoid most St. Patrick’s Day festivities.

    ANYONE,
    My pc is tanking and I tried sending the original Tonya Harding quote from December 2007 to Jack Tapper, the reporter who wrote up the recnt use of the term, but i can’t log onto ABC’s site.

    Can someone else try, please.

    😳

  • Tiny Dancer

    The pope is surrounded by garlic noses. Maybe I can make a call to my paesanos in Italy and have them pay a visit for us.

  • wbboei

    She must quit, she is dividing the party, tearing down precious, handing the election to McCain, my god Chiken Little (aka the BO/MSNBC Combine). . . the sky is falling in . . . . . .

    My bullshit detector has been going off on that lie now for some time and but I now have the best corroborating witness in the world to support me. Behold a political genius at work:

    Bill Clinton takes on Obama in W.Va. visit
    Mar 26, 2008 @ 01:13 PM
    Herald-Dispatch.com

    PARKERSBURG, W.Va. (AP) — President Bill Clinton says his wife won’t back down from a fight with U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, no matter how contentious the race becomes.

    Speaking to several hundred supporters in Parkersburg on Wednesday, the former president said division among the Democratic presidential candidates is nothing to be concerned about, and if politicians don’t want to get “beat up,” they shouldn’t run.

    Clinton rejected calls from some “elite” members of the Democratic Party who are suggesting his wife bow out of the race so as not to divide the party.

    He says now is not the time, as his wife is gaining ground on Obama.

    “Let’s just saddle up and have an argument. What’s wrong with that?”

    Clinton told the crowd that his wife has better plans than Obama on the economy, health care and the war in Iraq.

    Parkersburg is the first of three West Virginia campaign stops for Clinton. He also is scheduled to visit with seniors at the Gaston Caperton Community Center in the Kanawha County town of Chesapeake and an event in Beckley. All three appearances are open to the public.

    Hillary Clinton, a U.S. senator from New York, visited Charleston and Huntington last week, one day before her rival from Illinois made stops in Charleston and Beckley.

  • JAS

    So…. the only way any thing is going to “stick” to Obama is if they (MSMS) find a young boy or a dead whore in his bed, and… I don’t think that is going to happen!!!

  • Idunn

    Well, now hold on a sec, JAS…Tiny, you’re friends happen to have any dead whores lying around?

  • Idunn

    (sorry God, I’m sick. I’ll make up for that later, I promise)

  • basil9

    Dot,
    just called DNC and let them have it about brillo-head. it was an answering machine, but for some reason, the longer I spoke the more angry I became until i was screaming into the telephone that unless DNC IMPEACHED Brazille and Dean and seats Florida and Michigan and yadayadayada . . . Boy did that feel good!

    A typical white garlic-nosed italian. ROTF!

    Birdgal, can’t remember which show has the Obama watch.

    Kaffeen, have been thinking about what to do if BO is the nominee and the thing is, I’m afraid he could actually win if people like us don’t bump McCain’s numbers up and I’d rather have John than Barry.

  • mj

    Idunn, you are a great comedian. You really should get paid for this stuff.

    Michelle is so wrapped up in her own victimhood it’s ridiculous:
    “Because sometimes it’s easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your own ignorance. That’s America.”

  • “the former president said division among the Democratic presidential candidates is nothing to be concerned about, and if politicians don’t want to get “beat up,” they shouldn’t run.”

    Ha Ha, go Bill!

  • JAS

    Idunn…… CLASSIC!!!! that is too funny.

  • Idunn

    Clinton rejected calls from some “elite” members of the Democratic Party who are suggesting his wife bow out of the race so as not to divide the party.

    Good for you, Big Dawg!

  • Artiste

    I have to go back and read the links, but II just came in and saw Dot’s directive to call the DNC and complain!

    I did…and boy howdy did I get a snippy typical white girl in “Chairman’s Office”

    She told me that everything II knew about Florida and Michigan revotes was incorrect, also…she said DECLARITIVLEY (is that a word?) that “there will be a nominee. The Super Delegates will not be choosing the nominee”

    When I asked her about the DNC’s inequity in supporting the candidates, she said they were neutral (HA!) and when I asked her about does that neutrality include Dean turning his company over to his brother and giving OObama all his mailing lists she was incredulous. It just got better, but I did tell her that the Dems would be losing Florida. She said thatnk you for speaking fr thousands of florida voters. She was VERY rude and a real Bot.

  • Idunn

    Idunn, you are a great comedian. You really should get paid for this stuff.

    How many times do I have to tell you…I’m rich bitch! 😉

  • dot48

    Love that Bills in Wva today! My brother called this am and I was on the way out the door to take cat to vets .. I bet he was calling to tell me BigDawg was gonna be there.

  • Tiny Dancer

    I have some mafia ties, I’m sure I can come up with something. Let me give Big Tony a call.

    I have a cousin who keeps a pair of cement shoes on hand “just in case”. O_o

  • lninla

    From the article DJIA just posted (still BO does not show why he did not reject and denounce): religionandsocialpolicy.org/news/article.cfm?id=7644

    Preaching in church last Sunday [this means it was Jan 27 2008], your longtime pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said that Bill Clinton “Did the same thing to us that he did to Monica Lewinsky.” And he was criticized recently for his church magazine’s decision to give an award to Louis Farrakhan. Do you worry that the country is forming a certain impression of Jeremiah Wright that’s a different than the man who brought you to Christianity?

    ‘I Am Proud of Reverend Wright’

    It’s a tricky thing, anybody’s relationship with their pastor. Reverend Wright’s about to retire in a month. He’s at the end of a long and distinguished career.

    People who are familiar with the black church tradition know that Reverend Wright’s considered one of the greatest preachers in the country. Our church, Trinity United Church of Christ, even though it is part of a 95-, 97-percent white denomination, very much draws on the historical black church tradition and Reverend Wright’s sermons do as well. And that means that sometimes he’s provocative in ways that I’m not always comfortable with and in ways that I deeply disagree with occasionally.

  • djia

    In Letter, Top Clinton Donors Chastise Pelosi For Statements About Super-Delegates
    Twenty top Hillary fundraisers and donors have sent a scathing private letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, chastising her for publicly saying that the super-delegates should support the winner of the pledged delegate count and demanding that she say that they should make an “independent” choice.

    H t t p :/ / tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/in_letter_a_dozen_top_clinton.php

    The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
    Speaker of the US House of Representatives
    Office of the Speaker
    H-232, US Capitol
    Washington, DC 20515
    Dear Madame Speaker,
    As Democrats, we have been heartened by the overwhelming response that our fellow Democrats have shown for our party’s candidates during this primary season. Each caucus and each primary has seen a record turnout of voters. But this dynamic primary season is not at an end. Several states and millions of Democratic voters have not yet had a chance to cast their votes.
    We respect those voters and believe that they, like the voters in the states that have already participated, have a right to be heard. None of us should make declarative statements that diminish the importance of their voices and their votes. We are writing to say we believe your remarks on ABC News This Week on March 16th did just that.
    During your appearance, you suggested super-delegates have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd , whether that lead be by 500 delegates or 2. This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party’s intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984 as well as your own comments recorded in The Hill ten days earlier:
    “I believe super-delegates have to use their own judgment and there will be many equities that they have to weigh when they make the decision. Their own belief and who they think will be the best president, who they think can win, how their own region voted, and their own responsibility.’”
    Super-delegates, like all delegates, have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party’s strongest nominee. Both campaigns agree that at the end of the primary contests neither will have enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination. In that situation, super-delegates must look to not one criterion but to the full panoply of factors that will help them assess who will be the party’s strongest nominee in the general election.
    We have been strong supporters of the DCCC. We therefore urge you to clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August. We appreciate your activities in support of the Democratic Party and your leadership role in the Party and hope you will be responsive to some of your major enthusiastic supporters.
    Sincerely,
    Marc Aronchick
    Clarence Avant
    Susie Tompkins Buell
    Sim Farar
    Robert L. Johnson
    Chris Korge
    Marc and Cathy Lasry
    Hassan Nemazee
    Alan and Susan Patricof
    JB Pritzker
    Amy Rao
    Lynn de Rothschild
    Haim Saban
    Bernard Schwartz
    Stanley S. Shuman
    Jay Snyder
    Maureen White and Steven Rattner

  • dot48

    demand donna brazil step down

    call .. call .. call

    Brazil and the DNC is not being neutral.

  • djia

    @lninla

    that article proves he knew about the rev comments and that he definitely LIED!!

    and don’t ya just love the comment ” I’m proud of Rev. Wright”

  • Artiste

    OH! And another thing…the girl at the DNC said when I asked why they don’t put pressure on the networks to cover BOTH candidates fairly…

    She said (are ya sitting down?)

    “If we could control the media, they would be really scary”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    And I just fell off the turnip truck!

    ROFLMAO

  • Artiste

    they = that

  • jithendra

    ohhh boyy you people better watch out the things going on in this country

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341811,00.html

    NEW YORK, N.Y. — On any given day, log on to RevolutionMuslim.com and a host of startling images appear:

    — The Statue of Liberty, with an ax blade cutting through her side;

    — Video mocking the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl, entitled “Daniel Pearl I am Happy Your Dead 🙂 “;

    — Video of a puppet show lampooning U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq;

    — The latest speech from Sheikh Abdullah Faisal, an extremist Muslim cleric convicted in the UK and later deported for soliciting the murder of non-Muslims.

    Even more surprising is that RevolutionMuslim.com isn’t being maintained in some remote safe house in Pakistan. Instead, Yousef al-Khattab, the Web site creator, runs it from his home in the New York City Borough of Queens.

    • Click here to view photos.

    • Click here to view video mocking the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl.

    • Click here to view puppet show lampooning U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq.

    And, because al-Khattab enjoys the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, all the authorities can do is watch.

    Formerly known as Joseph Cohen, al-Khattab is an American-born Jew who converted to Islam after attending an Orthodox Rabbinical school, which he later described as a “racist cult.”

    The 39-year-old New York taxi driver launched RevolutionMuslim.com with the mission of “preserving Islamic culture,” “calling people to the oneness of God” and asking them to “support the beloved Sheik Abdullah Faisal, who’s preaching the religion of Islam and serving as a spiritual guide.”

    In 2003 Faisal was convicted in the U.K. for spreading messages of racial hatred and urging his followers to kill Jews, Hindus and Westerners. In sermon recordings played at his trial, Faisal called on young, impressionable Muslims to use chemical weapons to “exterminate unbelievers” and “cut the throat of the Kaffars [nonbelievers] with [a] machete.”

    Authorities believe Faisal’s sermons have influenced 2005 London transport bomber Germaine Lindsay and “shoe bomber” Richard Reid, who attended mosques where Faisal preached.

    At times, al-Khattab’s postings are farcical, such as a picture of him holding the book “Nuclear Jihad” with a wry smile on his face. Other messages call for radical Muslim rule worldwide.

    Al-Khattab claims the Sept. 11 terror attacks were an “inside job,” and he blames U.S. foreign policy for spawning the terrorism that carried out the attacks.

    He calls Daniel Pearl, who was kidnapped and beheaded in 2002 by Islamic extremists in Pakistan, “a convicted spy.”

    “I could care less about Daniel Pearl,” al-Khattab said in an interview with FOXNews.com. “I’m happy to see that he’s gone.”

    Click here to view RevolutionMuslim.com.

    The content changes constantly. One reason is that the fast flow of information allows messages to spread through cyberspace quickly. Another, terrorism analysts say, is to make it difficult for law enforcement to monitor the site.

    Despite his radical anti-Western views, al-Khattab says he does not support terrorism of any kind.

    Yet, RevolutionMuslim.com claims to be the official site of “North American representatives” for Sheikh Faisal, and it appears dedicated to spreading his radical doctrine.

    He says Faisal “never said to kill innocent people” and was unjustly imprisoned. He says the real terror organizations are the U.S. Army, the CIA, and the FBI — and the National Coast Guard, “to a lesser extent.”

    According to RevolutionMuslim, Faisal — who was deported to his native Jamaica in 2007 — is now receiving donations solicited on the site, including money for a new laptop and DVD burner to spread his message.

    It’s not illegal to post these messages or collect money for Faisal, but it would be if Faisal were designated a terrorist by the U.S. government. He currently is not listed on any government terror list; a Department of Justice spokesman could not confirm or deny if Faisal is being investigated for any terror related activity.

    RevolutionMuslim may look amateurish when compared with other extremist Web sites, but it is no less of a threat, says Mia Bloom, political science professor at the University of Georgia’s School of Public and International Affairs.

    “It may lead people who become radicalized by it to turn to other, more dangerous Web sites,” such as those run by terrorist organizations, she said.

    Bloom characterized al-Khattab’s message as “narrow” and “misinformed” and said he is attempting to “proselytize or radicalize people who share some of these same ideas.”

    “[He] has obviously been duped or is duping others because that’s not what Islam preaches,” she said.

    On his site al-Khattab appears to condemn the very democracy that guarantees him the freedom to express himself — a freedom he cites in a disclaimer on his homepage:

    “We hereby declare and make absolute public declaration that revolutionmuslim.com operates under the first amendment right to freedom of religion and expression and that in no way, shape, or form do we call for war against the U.S. government or adhere to the enemies of the United States elsewhere.”

    Under the law FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said it is difficult to bring criminal charges against the operators of Web sites like RevolutionMuslim.com unless specific threats are made against an individual or individuals.

    Kolko while not speaking directly about RevolutionMuslim said radical sites like these are not often prosecuted.

    “It’s usually a First Amendment right if they don’t cross the threshold of making any threats,” said Kolko. “There’s nothing we should or could do.”

    “Until the rhetoric reaches the point in which it’s no longer protected speech under the first amendment, it’s hard to stop it,” said security expert, Harvey Kushner.

  • Idunn

    Excellent post, Djia!

  • dot48

    Nancy Pelosi.. call that byotch as well

    District Office – 450 Golden Gate Ave. – 14th Floor – San Francisco, CA 94102 – (415) 556-4862
    Washington, D.C. Office – 235 Cannon HOB – Washington, DC 20515 – (202) 225-4965

    reinforce the letter above. She needs to clarify herself and remain neutral .. plus do her own friggin job for a change

  • The story you’re missing on superdelegates

    By Daniel Baer
    Wed Mar 26, 4:00 AM ET

    Cambridge, Mass. – It is now clear that superdelegates will ultimately decide the Democratic nominee for president, so the campaigns for both Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama have been making their case for what these party pooh-bahs ought to do.

    Senator Obama’s camp asserts that superdelegates need to vote for whoever wins more pledged delegates – almost certainly him. Senator Clinton’s team contends that her often-decisive victories in large and swing states – crucial battlegrounds in the November election – should compel superdelegate support.

    As in many political arguments, both claims have a hint of substance, but neither quite tells the whole story.

    The Obama position boils down to this: “The people have spoken; you can’t go against the people.” But that’s tenuous and counterintuitive. If that were the case, there’d be no need for superdelegates at all: The Democrats would simply have party rules that made the winner of pledged delegates – no matter how thin the margin – the nominee.

    What Obama’s people are right about, though, is that the people have spoken (and are still speaking), and what they’ve said so far is that Democrats have two great candidates, both of whom inspire large numbers of supporters.

    It is a superdelegate’s duty to reflect carefully on each candidate’s strengths, on how she or he would fare in a general election, and how he or she would perform as president.

    In wooing superdelegates, Obama’s campaign must make the case that he can go the distance, withstand Republican attacks, and reach beyond the core demographics that have supported him in caucuses and primaries thus far.

    Here’s where the Clinton campaign’s counterargument comes in: Her wins with key Democratic constituencies in large states and swing states, and a possible popular-vote edge, provide a compelling reason for superdelegates to tilt her way.

    But this, too, is only part of the story. The popular vote, like the delegate tally, is likely to be a virtual tie. And while her wins in critical swing states are significant, it is difficult for either candidate to make conclusive arguments about general election viability based only on performance in primaries or caucuses.

    Superdelegates shouldn’t meditate on particular numbers from caucuses and primaries alone, but must also look ahead to what we know about key factors in the general election.

    We know that there will be more focus on policy differences than there is in a primary, where voters often have the luxury of picking on personality. We know that in 2008, the economy, healthcare, and security are likely to be the top issues for voters. And we know that recent GOP wins have been built upon inroads with three groups: Latinos, so-called security moms, and working-class whites.

    Clinton’s campaign must continue to demonstrate that she has the substance – the Clinton track record on the economy, her nuanced command of foreign policy – and the strength with key demographics that will be necessary to win the general election, especially in states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida.

    There has been an inordinate amount of handwringing about the superdelegates among Democratic activists and the punditry:

    “Oh no,” they lament. “The unelected superdelegates are going to make the call. No one imagined this nightmare scenario when they created these party rules!”

    Hogwash. There is no reason to assume that the prospect of a virtual tie in pledged delegates didn’t occur to the designers of the system. Indeed, it is precisely in a case like this that having superdelegates makes sense. The purpose of such a format is to help the Democratic Party choose the best candidate when one has not been convincingly rendered by the primaries and caucuses.

    When the superdelegates inevitably act as a tiebreaker, there may be outcries from either side that the result is undemocratic. But it’s important to remember that this is not an election; it is the mechanism by which a voluntary association – the party – selects a candidate.

    The primary system need not be democratic – thankfully, else we’d have to reject caucuses. The solitary objective is to produce the best Democratic candidate: a person who represents Democratic values and, critically, who can win the real election in November.

    It may be politically difficult for superdelegates to bracket consideration of pledged delegates, but their hopefully principled commitment to the Democratic Party demands that they do so. After all, Obama has staked his campaign in part on reminding us that judgment certainly doesn’t mean following the crowd.

    As voters and caucusgoers, we have supported the person we believe in. Superdelegates have a special duty: As party leaders, they must set aside the passions of the moment, draw upon their experience and their judgment, and choose a candidate who can win and who can govern.

    • Daniel Baer is a faculty fellow at the Edmond J. Safra Foundation Center for Ethics at Harvard. He is a supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080326/cm_csm/ybaer;_ylt=AjYYcIndZoQ2.4_7YdD4uMph24cA

  • Hey guys/gals, I’m working on the design for a political website to go up soon. I need some people to dedicate some opinion papers, articles, videos, podcasts, and other content. If there is anyone that would be interested in doing this, please let me know. In addition, if anyone has some suggestions on what content and/or functionality they would like to see on a political website, I’d appreciate that as well. If anyone is interested in becoming a member of the community I am creating, send an email and I will put you on the email newsletter list to notify you when the site is up and running. You can contact me at k*a*f*f*e*e*n*@gmail.com (remove the asterisks). Thanks.

  • djia

    LOL! God I love bill, he’s always right on the money!!

    h t t p :/ /blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/bill-clinton-i.html

    Jake Tapper today wrote :

    Bill Clinton: ‘I Don’t Give a Riff About All This Name-Calling….Let’s Just Saddle Up and Have an Argument’

    March 26, 2008 2:06 PM

    Don’t like the tenor of the Democratic contest?
    Don’t look to former President Bill Clinton for consolation.
    Speaking to voters in Parkersburg, West Virginia, the 42nd president Wednesday said, “I don’t give a riff about all this name-calling that’s going on. They’ve been going on ever since Iowa. I’ve heard them say all these things about her.
    “Apparently it’s okay to say bad things about a girl,” he said laughing, in an apparent reference to his 60-year-old wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, per ABC News’ Z. Byron Wolf.
    “The only thing that matters is, what happens to you?” said Mr. Clinton. “That’s all that matters. If a politician doesn’t wanna get beat up, he shouldn’t run for office. If a football player doesn’t want to get tackled or want the risk of an a occasional clip he shouldn’t put the pads on.”
    Clinton also had a word to say about all the surrogates of both his wife’s and Sen. Barack Obama’s campaigns whom had been ejected, including former Obama campaign adviser Samantha Power, and former Clinton campaign finance committee member Geraldine Ferraro.
    “I don’t think any of these people oughta be asked to resign,” said the former president. “All these guys that say bad things about any other campaign, they say should they resign? My answer is no, they’re repeating the party line. They oughta stay right where they are.
    “Let’s just saddle up and have an argument,” he continued. “What’s the matter with that? That’s what America’s about, right?
    “All this moaning and groaning — none of these politicians are gonna have anything like the tough time half the people in this audience have already had for the last seven years. This is about you. Don’t you let anybody take this election away from you.”

  • dot48

    Perhaps Fox is leading up to something …..:wink:

  • dot48

    dayum .. Bill Clinton is giving the big FU to media. Love him.

  • lninla

    Admin, could you help me embed?

    you should totally watch this spar session between Jamie Rubin (fmr asst to Bill Clinton, and husband of Christianne Amanpour) tear Andrea Mitchell a new one – he debunks the media’s slanted telling of Bosnia, or Ireland; tears the BO campaign a new one for denigrating the work of an “important First Lady,” and he’s particularly tough on anti-Clintonite Andrea Mitchell.

    GREAT TV – someone on TM comments said, he should be Clintons’ spokesperson. Agreed.

    msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23812866#23812866

  • Idunn

    All this moaning and groaning — none of these politicians are gonna have anything like the tough time half the people in this audience have already had for the last seven years. This is about you. Don’t you let anybody take this election away from you

    That a damned call to arms right there. Big Dawg is letting us know the Clinton Machine is about to rev the engine. 🙂

  • Sherm Kader

    GOD DAMN CNN!

    GOD DAMN MSNBC!

    I lnow that’s crude, but it’s okay if I say that because I’ve also been nice to some people I actually like.

  • dot48

    that quote about advisers staying right where they are …hmmm leading up to some announcement I do believe. Can’t wait

  • djia

    @Idunn…… Thanks 😀

    @Dot48……hope your WRIGHT 😀

  • lninla

    ok – going to try this again Jamie Rubin tears Andrea Mitchell a new a-hole:

  • birdgal

    Andrea needs a new one.

  • basil9

    wbboei,

    LOVE that BC story! Reading that put a 🙂 on my face.

  • texan4hillary

    see what we are dealing with in tx. i wish hillary woudl do the same thing as obama-
    althouse.blogspot.com/2008/03/in-texas-obama-campaign-tries-to-win.html

  • Idunn

    hmmm leading up to some announcement I do believe

    I told you…the 28th. 🙂

  • basil9

    Artiste,

    Now I’m inspired to call again and try getting hold of a Bot-girl.

  • Paula

    “All this moaning and groaning — none of these politicians are gonna have anything like the tough time half the people in this audience have already had for the last seven years. This is about you. Don’t you let anybody take this election away from you.”

    I just love the Big Dog! 🙂

  • Tiny Dancer

    OT Christianne Amanpour is an idol of mine. Well was when I was in hs/college. I haven’t kept up with her recently, but I had great respect for work during the 90s back when CNN was halfway respectable.

  • wbboei

    Revelle, revelle, revelle– howard dean must by humming that old tune by Irving Berlin “oh how I hate to get up in the morning”

    And what about Precious? Is the still telling himsef that old lie that Hillary’s supporters will flock to him in droves if she is not the nominee, because they are democrats, he is the nominee, ergo vini vini viche.

    If so then he needs to listen to the lilting lyrics of that old Gershwin song from Porgy and Bess: “It taint necessarily so . . . . . . . .”

    And then he might want to ponder the polling results. Prior to today we knew the attrition rate would be 40% if current trends hold which they will because images of his racist minister will continue to reverberate through the blogosphere, whether or not Anderson Cooper faints over them and requires smelling salts.

    Today however the other shoe dropped. Hidden somewhere in that 40%number was an x factor of how many of them would merely stay home vs how many would actually cross over the bridge to McCain which would be a double whammy against Bwaaaaaak. Less for him and more for his opponent hypothetically speaking.

    Today we got the answer to that question. According to Gallup 28% would actually cross over to McCain–roughly one third. That is megapolitical. Chuck Todd will be as quick as he was in New Hampshire to dismiss them as racists, but the truth is Bwaaaaaak has managed to offend so many constituencies out there that it is more economical to speak in terms of who hasnt he offended.

  • lninla

    yes, love Christianne Amanpour too – love that her husband is smacking down Andrea Mitchell. Also, TM poster noted this:

    Dozen Clinton high donors smackdown Nancy Pelosi: tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/in_letter_a_dozen_top_clinton.php

    In Letter, Top Clinton Donors Chastise Pelosi For Statements About Super-Delegates
    By Greg Sargent – March 26, 2008, 2:34PM

    Twenty top Hillary fundraisers and donors have sent a scathing private letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, chastising her for publicly saying that the super-delegates should support the winner of the pledged delegate count and demanding that she say that they should make an “independent” choice.

    I’ve obtained a copy of the letter, which comes from some of the most influential fundraisers in the Democratic Party, including Hassan Nemazee, Steven Rattner, Maureen White, Stan Shuman, and Alan Patricof.

    Here’s a key excerpt:

    Several states and millions of Democratic voters have not yet had a chance to cast their votes.

    We respect those voters and believe that they, like the voters in the states that have already participated, have a right to be heard. None of us should make declarative statements that diminish the importance of their voices and their votes. We are writing to say we believe your remarks on ABC News This Week on March 16th did just that.

    During your appearance, you suggested super-delegates have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd , whether that lead be by 500 delegates or 2. This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party’s intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984 as well as your own comments recorded in The Hill ten days earlier…

  • HillaryforTexas

    birdgal, maybe if she had a new one she’d look a little less constipated all the time.

    Oh, and I LUUURV me some Big Dawg! He thinks like an ordinary person, not some Washington poobah.

  • filbertsf

    About the Gallup Poll… I think a major part of the division btw Hillary’s people and Obama’s cult followers is the Media. Specifically, why many of us can not bring ourselves to vote for Obama.

    For Hillary people (those who are ferociously loyal), the disparity btween how the media treats Hillary and how they treat Obama is what is fueling this anger. It’s comparable to the family dynamic in which the parent has a favorite child. The other child feels a sense of injustice and harbors resentment and anger against the favorite child. If it goes on for years and years, it turns into hatred not only for the parent, but the favorite child.

    For me, although I think Obama has run an under-the-radar dirty campaign and has blatantly stoked the flames of race-baiting, much of my hatred comes from the media’s blatant favoritism of the emperor with no clothes on.

    I realized this b/c of John Edwards. Edwards was the original ass to Hillary. Many of us are forgetting how below-the-belt he went in attacking Hillary. Unfortunately for John, the media dismissed him as persona non grata… so John became just a nuisance in this race.

    So with Edwards, I harbored a dislike of him, but I also realized he was another child left out.

    There’s a sense of injustice when you see one candidate continuously bashed and berated time after time; and the other candidate smothered with compliments and glowing praise. One candidate criticized for merely existing; while the other’s misdeeds requires persistence by mass organization for it to be noticed by the media.

  • birdgal

    filbert: just like a dysfunctional family.

  • Tiny Dancer

    28% will cross over, but what % will just stay home?

    And I heart Bill Clinton.

  • dot48

    that is what I find in phone banking. the pure despise of the media is fueling a lot of support for Hillary. I’m telling voters that she has her back against the wall and she needs every vote and that they CAN make a difference. They want to feel necessary and I’m helping this as much as I can.

  • Idunn

    I don’t have an issue with one candidate being an ass to another candidate, myself. I think that’s just politics. What’s driven me over the edge wrt Bambi is his whole pompous, “you can’t touch me” routine. And the sheer audacity of his hypocricy. He does know we can SEE him, right? 🙄

  • dot48

    also 7pm Shep Smith on Fox .. JUST THE NEWS .. no pundits, no discussion. Give HIM the ratings.

  • filbertsf

    And the Media sits back and wonders why the Democratic Primary has turned so bitter and angry.

    Tweety, Russert, Olbermann, the entire cast of CNN, NBC, NYT and WaPo sit back and wash their hands of it all when this whole thing comes to a conclusion.

  • dot48

    Obama: The Audacity of Hypocrisy….

  • Idunn

    Thanks for the spellcheck, Dot. 😉

  • “Today we got the answer to that question. According to Gallup 28% would actually cross over to McCain–roughly one third. That is megapolitical. Chuck Todd will be as quick as he was in New Hampshire to dismiss them as racists, but the truth is Bwaaaaaak has managed to offend so many constituencies out there that it is more economical to speak in terms of who hasnt he offended.”

    Brilliant analysis as usual, Wbboei!

  • Berkeley Vox

    Yesssssssssssssss! Big Dawg’s speech today was AWESOME!

  • Everyone should watch CNN right now, lots of interesting topics, Sexism, Pelosi not being neutral, Hill in it to win it, Dem defections to McCain if Obama gets nom.

  • filbertsf

    HillBill, don’t forget that Edwards was the original divider: he divided the “class” of Democratics. He wanted to start a class-warfare. However, b/c the media dismissed him — as they do Hillary — we don’t have that same hatred of John.

    In fact, many of us would gladly have Edwards as VP. I think the media played a big part in this bitter Primary in stoking division.

  • basil9

    Just got through to a Ms. “Mallory” at the DNC and when I expressed my concern about Donna Brazille exhibiting pro-Obama bias on National TV she informed me that Brillo-head is not ‘representing’ the DNC on the shows and she has the right to express any opinion she chooses. I then asked precisely what Ms. brazille’s position was in the DNC and what role she plays and she said she didn’t know. I said Brillo-head had been responsible for crafting the “Rules” which are currently prohibiting Florida voters from being heard and she informed me that Brillo-head had been a member of the committee but there had been a unanimous vote to sanction the states. I asked where I could find out more specific information about Brillo-head’s function in the DNC and she suggested I do a google search. :mrgreen:

  • Idunn

    Makes me wonder just how many of JE’s supporters are now running to hillary like they’ve been set on fire.

  • basil9

    Kaffeen,

    Count me in! you have my info.

  • Idunn

    Do you guys call BFF “brillo head” because her hairdo looks alot like an sos pad?

    Just curious.

  • Tiny Dancer

    I’m having a nice big Italian sandwich with lots of garlic for lunch in honor of Rev Wright. *Muah*

  • dot48

    Idunn .. that is why I call her that, her hairdo looks like my brillopads.

  • filbertsf

    kaffeen, I’m in.

  • Artiste

    Turn on FOX!

    AA minister saying BBO campaign shutting Wright down on speaking tours. Wright has canceled Texas too!

  • Idunn

    Enjoy that sandwich, garlic nose. 😉

  • Idunn

    Idunn .. that is why I call her that, her hairdo looks like my brillopads.

    LOL…I didn’t get it for awhile, until I thought about it. But I swear, it really does. Blocky, boxy, same color and everything.

  • basil9

    dot,

    “that quote about advisers staying right where they are …hmmm leading up to some announcement I do believe. Can’t wait”

    I don’t get it. translation, please. 🙁

  • wbboei

    Tiny- you saw my follow up posting on Cantwell I assume.

    How many would stay home: It seems to me that if 40% of Hillarys supporters will not support Bambi if he is the candidate and if 28% of those would cross over, then 12% would stay home (defined to mean stay home, write in Hillary, or vote for someone other than Bambi).

    My 82 year old mother who has voted for the Democratic candidate in every election since she was eligible to vote and has a visceral reaction to Republicans which goes back to the Depression, and who is still in full posssession of her faculties told me last night that if Obama is the nominee then she will vote for McCain because he is the lesser of the two evils.

  • Idunn

    Space, what else are they saying?

  • basil9

    Wbboei,

    ‘Bwaaaaaak has managed to offend so many constituencies out there that it is more economical to speak in terms of who hasnt he offended.’

    LMAO! You certainly have a way with words!

  • filbertsf

    For anyone who lives in Northern Cal…

    To update those not in the Bay Area, we are organizing a demonstration at our California State Democratic Convention in San Jose—on Friday March 28th when Nancy Pelosi will be speaking. The theme is Voter Disenfranchisement/Voter Issues. We are not wearing Hillary shirts, caps, buttons, etc. It’s NOT about the candidates. It’s about our votes…our voices…As stated in the petition, it’s not just MI & FL; I think we all agree that there is an underlying theme in our political parties that disenfranchising voters is acceptable. 1) DNC disenfranchised MI & FL voters 2) Caucuses – are these inclusive? We’ve seen how these work and how they disenfranchise voters and 3) Open primaries! So it’s okay for Republicans to vote in a Democratic primary, but vote Republican in the general election—throwing an election? Astonishing!

    Please sign the petition, and if you can, bring your hand made posters and join us at the SJ Convention Center at 4:30pm.

    I would love to join but I’ll in TX.

  • Ronald

    The audacity of experience NOT the audacity of hypocrisy

  • Berkeley Vox

    The Gallup numbers re: Clinton supporters abandoning Obama in droves if he’s the nominee prove what we’ve known all along: Obama has alienated virtually EVERYONE other than his core following of Obamabots. He’s turning off swing voters, he’s turning off moderates, and his campaign’s shrieks any time the media begins to try and vet him are turning more shrill by the hour.

  • lninla

    Filberts – will you email me that petition if it’s going around?

    Also, they should add that the elitist Dems who are calling on Hill to stop, are trying to disenfranchise the voices of those millions who will vote in the upcoming primaries, and to invalidate the votes of so many who voted for Clinton previously – in states where she won.

  • djia

    @filbertsf
    @Idunn

    Perhaps this is the “biggie” on march 28th!! Perhaps it’s going to end up seating FL and MI and Hillary will be the nominee!!

    “a demonstration at our California State Democratic Convention in San Jose—on Friday March 28th when Nancy Pelosi will be speaking.”

  • Tiny Dancer

    Yeah wbboei! I feel a little better about Cantwell now. There’s something about it in the TImes today and someone replied that she’s really indebted to Sen. Clinton for helping erase the campaign debt.

    My sandwich is amazing. Its frsh mozzerella with roasted peppers, garlic, olive oil on focaccetta. I’m also sipping Pelligrino and have a cannolli for dessert. If I’m going to be a stereotype I’m going all out.

  • Berkeley Vox

    Excerpted from Politico:


    TAXES: OBAMA PROSPERED AS HE SOARED

    By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 3/25/08 7:16 PM ES

    Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, pulled in $3.9 million from 2000 through 2006, according to tax returns posted Tuesday on his presidential campaign’s website.

    They gave $148,000 to charity in that span, including $27,500 to Trinity United Church of Christ when the polarizing Rev. Jeremiah Wright was leading the congregation.

    Curiously, the Obamas checked the box to set aside $3 for the presidential public financing system on their taxes between 2000 through 2004, but they did not do so in 2005 or 2006. Barack Obama, who has positioned himself as a champion for reducing the role of money in politics, has been criticized for backing away from his commitment to participate in the program as a presidential candidate.

  • Artiste

    LOVE THIS

    This is about you. Don’t you let anybody take this election away from you

    That a damned call to arms right there. Big Dawg is letting us know the Clinton Machine is about to rev the engine. 🙂

    Gotta make some coffee

  • Idunn

    Perhaps this is the “biggie” on march 28th!! Perhaps it’s going to end up seating FL and MI and Hillary will be the nominee!!

    For some reason, that was my gut reaction to it to. But the keywords here are “strategy” “communications” and “brilliant advisors”. Don’t ask me what exactly that means, because I have no clue. But there you have it. (for those who care to have it, and for those who don’t, just pass it by) 🙂

  • Idunn

    a demonstration at our California State Democratic Convention in San Jose—on Friday March 28th

    Oh shit! I AM sick! I read that twice and STILL didn’t see the connection! Damn!

  • Berkeley Vox

    OBAMA’S FINANCIAL SUCCESS LINKED TO WRIGHT; OBAMA PAID HIM BACK, TOO:

    From Politico:

    Nearly half the family’s income in that period came from payments in 2005 and 2006 related to Obama’s books — “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream,” which hit bookstores in October 2006, and “Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance,” published in 1996 and re-released in 2004 as Obama headed to an easy win in his Senate race.

    [Basically, Obama made massive amounts of money by selling a book named after one of hate-monger Jeremiah Wright’s most famous sermons]

    Then, Obama donated 275,000 to Wright’s church. Quid pro quo, anyone?

  • Idunn

    And here’s the weirdest part, after I did the “work”, I came in here and asked anyone if they thought there was any possible way Florida or Michigan might be seated on the 28th, and no-one had anything to offer, so I just dropped it. 😯

  • Berkeley Vox

    ^ meant to type $27,500 above (donation by BHO to Wright)

  • Idunn

    meant to type $27,500 above (donation by BHO to Wright)

    Huh…so is that figured into his annual 1% for charity? 🙄

  • Idunn

    DJIA, tell me more about this demonstration. Or can you point me to a link?

  • Artiste

    “Perhaps it’s going to end up seating FL and MI and Hillary will be the nominee!!”

    not sure`about this when I spoke to DNC Bot-girl she agreed with Brillo Head that seating after a nominee was chosen will be the course right now

  • mj

    Ok, I know no one here gives a crap, but damn it, what the hell was purchased at Tiffanys, who did the purchasing, and who was it for? I want to know. How do you accidently use campaign funds to buy stuff at Tiffs?

  • wbboei

    Tiny said: Christianne Amanpour is an idol of mine. Well was when I was in hs/college. I haven’t kept up with her recently, but I had great respect for work during the 90s back when CNN was halfway respectable
    ——————————————————————–
    She is still at it doing great reporting, and she is couageous enough to tell the truth withour pc or bamabibullshit. Michael Weir in Iraq is another great one. Ditto Dana Priest with Washpo.

    In the days when Britain commanded an empire on which the sun never set and Cecil Rhoades held sway from Capetown to Cairo, it was common for British families of means to send their least talented sons abroad so they would not be an embarrassment to their social standing. These lesser lights were called “remittance men”.

    Mindful of that precedent, it occurred to me that in the offices of CNN today the reverse custom is observed and the remittance men stay home.

  • mj

    wbboei, I learn a lot from you. Glad you are here.

  • Artiste

    Minister said BO is in hot water if it is apearing he is shutting Wright down. HE brouht race into tis and now he wants it to go away.

    He said(paraphrasing))
    “Every time Wright opens his mouth, the campaign knows it just brings attention to Obama in a way they don’t want”

  • mp

    DJIA, tell me more about this demonstration. Or can you point me to a link?:

    —-

    I will be there – demonstrating. 2 other people i know are organising it.

    djia: are you part of this group? If, we need to introduce ourselves!

  • lninla

    I’m hoping we did not spread the false Cantwell rumor too far and wide as the Obama trolls, even those commenting on TPM are constantly referencing us.

  • I have to laugh when the media says the campaign is getting dirty and nasty. They should cover some local elections if they really want to see dirty and nasty campaigns. This is nothing compared to so of the things I have seen over the years.

  • djia

    @MP

    it came from this posted up above, no i am not apart of it, i don’t even live in SF

    # filbertsf Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    For anyone who lives in Northern Cal…

    To update those not in the Bay Area, we are organizing a demonstration at our California State Democratic Convention in San Jose—on Friday March 28th when Nancy Pelosi will be speaking. The theme is Voter Disenfranchisement/Voter Issues. We are not wearing Hillary shirts, caps, buttons, etc. It’s NOT about the candidates. It’s about our votes…our voices…As stated in the petition, it’s not just MI & FL; I think we all agree that there is an underlying theme in our political parties that disenfranchising voters is acceptable. 1) DNC disenfranchised MI & FL voters 2) Caucuses – are these inclusive? We’ve seen how these work and how they disenfranchise voters and 3) Open primaries! So it’s okay for Republicans to vote in a Democratic primary, but vote Republican in the general election—throwing an election? Astonishing!

    Please sign the petition, and if you can, bring your hand made posters and join us at the SJ Convention Center at 4:30pm.

    I would love to join but I’ll in TX.

  • Is there a link about the demonstration?

  • Artiste

    @mj “How do you accidently use campaign funds to buy stuff at Tiffs?”

    the same way FEMA temp employees on hurricane response use FED credit cars to go gambling, buy girls, buy boats and steaks and stereos for personal use. You just DO IT and hope no one notices for six months. Then you are gone and they don’t come looking. These cards get passed around. As far as Campaign expenses, i am not sure, but i bet it was some little trinket for Michelle “Where’s the money” Obama for giveaway on the trip to Megan’s Bay

  • Paula

    wbboei, What’s the reason your mom dislikes Obama? Is it because of the media fawning over him? Just curious …

  • Artiste

    WOW Fox story says “Reid said “things will be done” before the Primary ends. Same message Bot-girl gave me on the phone.

    SOMEONE has made a deal.

  • Idunn

    Ok, I know no one here gives a crap, but damn it, what the hell was purchased at Tiffanys

    That’s still bugging me too, MJ. What do you want to bet it wasn’t the first “mistake”?

    Minister said BO is in hot water if it is apearing he is shutting Wright down.

    Doesn’t matter what he does now. It’s like trying to put bees back in a jar.

  • Idunn

    After a bunch of folks have already been stung, no less.

  • djia

    @ Berkeley Vox

    You wrote “Then, Obama donated 275,000 to Wright’s church. Quid pro quo, anyone?”

    I couldn’t find that in the politico article anywhere, can you share a link to this information?

    Thanks 😀

  • mp

    SOMEONE has made a deal.
    ——

    The FIX is in!

    Well we will not budge…remember there are 28% of us…we can make some difference!

    We need to make sure we live in the swing states to tip it to McCain!

    And YES WE CAN make a difference!

  • Artiste

    Idunn…your bees come in a jar?

  • Artiste

    The FOX story on Reid annd the DNC bot girl have me wondering about Barry’s vacation now.

    Was he away sulking, or, resting on his laurels that he is the winner?

  • mj

    I don’t think the DNC girl and Reid have the same scenario in mind.

    “Minister said BO is in hot water if it is apearing he is shutting Wright down.”

    It’s quite a pickle the Senator is in. Mr.Wright does not like to be slighted. That’s why he went after Powell and Oprah. Keeping him quiet will be quite a chore.

  • mj

    Artiste Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
    The FOX story on Reid annd the DNC bot girl have me wondering about Barry’s vacation now.

    Was he away sulking, or, resting on his laurels that he is the winner?

    No. He was finding a way to avoid Easter Sunday services.

  • Reid and his son are in Hillary’s corner (son officially and Reid himself says he is neutral). If a deal was made against Hillary he wouldn’t be saying that right now, he would be bitching about it.

  • mp

    Rev. Wright has his own agenda!

    Great – we need to see him talking more! and let him keep the BO connection alive!

  • Idunn

    Hmm…Bill issues a challenge today…”let’s saddle up”. Reid comes out and says “something will be done” before primaries end.

    What do you want to bet they are gonna try to shove a Clinton/ Obama ticket deal down our throats?

  • djia

    watch rove on fox now!!

  • lninla

    from Hillaryclinton.com

    3/26/2008
    Statement from Campaign Manager Maggie Williams on New Vote in Michigan

    In the wake of today’s court ruling regarding Michigan’s January 15th primary, we urge Senator Obama to join our call for a party-run primary and demonstrate his commitment to counting Michigan’s votes.

    Senator Clinton has consistently urged that the more that 600,000 votes cast by the people of Michigan be counted and if that is not possible, that a new election be held.

    Michigan voters must not be disenfranchised and the Obama campaign must not continue to block Michigan’s efforts to hold a new vote. Rather it should move quickly to announce its support for a party run primary.

    Michigan will be a key battleground state in November. Disenfranchising Michigan voters today will, in the heat of a general election, provide Senator McCain with a powerful argument to use against the Democratic nominee. We cannot allow this to happen.

    The people of Michigan must be counted and their voices finally heard. What the people of Michigan need now is just action, not just words.

  • Artiste

    mj….when I spoke to her, she was steadfast on that point. The Superdelegates WILL NOT BE MAKING THE DECISION, it WILL NOT come to that. THERE WILL BE A NOMINEE”

    now, Reid saying the same thing.

    Party Line Speak

  • OkieAtty

    From CNN (sorry if someone already posed this):

    (CNN) — Nearly 20 high-profile Hillary Clinton backers strongly criticized Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday over her recent suggestion that Democratic party superdelegates should not overturn the pledged delegate outcome at the party’s convention this August.

    In a letter to the House Speaker dated Wednesday, the backers said that position is at odds with the party’s original intent on what the role of superdelegates should be.

    “Superdelegates, like all delegates, have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party’s strongest nominee,” the backers wrote.

    “Both campaigns agree that at the end of the primary contests neither will have enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination,” they also said. “In that situation, super-delegates must look to not one criterion but to the full panoply of factors that will help them assess who will be the party’s strongest nominee in the general election.”

    In an ABC interview earlier this month, Pelosi said it was her belief whichever candidate ended the round a primaries with the pledged-delegate lead should be awarded the Democratic nomination by the superdelegates. That argument would benefit Barack Obama, whose current pledged delegate lead of 171 is virtually insurmountable given the party’s proportional delegation allocations, even if Clinton were to win each of the remaining 10 primary contests.

    In their letter to Pelosi, the backers urged the House speaker to “clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August.”

    The letter comes one day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid seemed to suggest Democratic leaders were in the process of working out a deal to ensure the party’s nomination fight does not go all the way to the convention.

    “Things are being done,” Reid told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

  • dot48

    Clinton/Obama I’d hold my nose and vote for .. otherwise a no go for me.

  • mj

    How in the hell could a federal judge rule the MI vote unconstitutional?

  • mp

    Any sign of that old drunken DINOsuar….Kennedy?
    Very quite last 12 days and counting!

  • mj

    Because, art, if you read between the lines of everything Reid said, it’s clear he favors Hill.

  • Artiste

    Okie, thanks!

    and thanks above for clarifying Reids position. I think I remembered that about his son.

  • mp

    Oh my god!…I need an editor or a spell checker BAD!

    DINOSAUR and QUIET!

  • Idunn

    Here’s my John McLaughlin psuedo-science routine: PREDICTION! Friday, March28, 2008: the democratic party announces a deal has been struck to run a Clinton/Obama ticket.

    NEXT!

  • Artiste

    Cant watch DICK on FOX…hope they realize every time he appears, we switch the channel! Maybe he will go away

  • As much as I no longer like the idea of a Clinton/Obama ticket, I could live with it. Party leaders have to think towards the future and not just November. A Clinton/Obama ticket will give the Dems a strong shot at controlling the WH for the next 16 years.

  • OkieAtty

    thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/24/obama-and-the-gay-issue-still-inconsistent-still-not-discussed/

    Obama and the Gay Issue–Still Inconsistent, Still Not Discussed
    by Diane Elayne Dees
    March 24th, 2008 @ 1:24 pm

    For several years, Barack Obama claimed he was opposed to gay marriage because of his religious faith. He belongs to a denomination that supports gay marriage, but no television host or reporter ever questioned him about this inconsistency. Now that political correspondents have learned more about Obama’s religion, he has stopped making this claim.

    The entire concept of gay marriage is, of course, totally phony, though no candidate or politician dares to point this out. All marriages in this country are civil unions; there is no difference between the “civil union” of a gay couple and the “marriage” of a straight couple. Without the paperwork, a marriage is not legal, no matter how many priests are present at the wedding ceremony. Giving gay couples the right to marry is the same as giving them the right to have a “civil union,” but rather than make the obvious clear, politicians keep stepping around the non-issue. Under any system, a particular church has the right to refuse to perform a ceremony, but that is the only factor involved. Otherwise, there is no difference between two straight people going to City Hall for the paperwork, two gay people going to City Hall, two bisexual people going, etc. Read more…

  • dot48

    well Michigan and Florida will just tell the Democratic party to kiss their asses come November.

    I’m glad to be leaving the party they are a bunch of stupid dimwits who don’t deserve to be in charge of the White House. I’m ashamed of the party.

    Democratic Party = LOSERS

  • mj

    Is there a lawyer here? I can not for the life of me understand how a judge could find the MI vote unconstitutional.

  • Artiste

    Idunn…if thhat happens, I am moving up there and we are gonna open a psychic drive-thru on a Tennessee mountain road somewhere and make a fortune off of you!

  • mj ask okie she is an attorney

  • Idunn

    MJ, you dolt…read Okie’s name! LOL!

  • OkieAtty

    Idunn, you and your predictions…. 😳

  • OkieAtty

    mj, just got here and haven’t read the entire thread. Of what do you speak?

  • Idunn

    Idunn…if thhat happens, I am moving up there and we are gonna open a psychic drive-thru on a Tennessee mountain road somewhere and make a fortune off of you!

    LMAO! Well, we’d go broke then, because I don’t have a psychic bone in my body.;)

  • mj

    I know okie is a lawyer. I didn’t know if she was around. Okie, have you had a chance to look at the MI decision? I can’t understand it.

  • Idunn

    Idunn, you and your predictions

    yes yes…but was I WRONG?

  • dot48

    One thing Obama could learn under Hillary’s leadership is to grow a fucking spine. Quit whining and take your licks…

    Hillary’s proving she brings the big states and the big coalitions of voters. Obama brings AA and rich liberals. In reality they are the dream ticket .. BUT only if Hillary is on the top because she happens to be the one with the real solutions.

  • Artiste

    Wolf just caught himself…

    What will the next president do (speaking of the Shuttle) Will HE keep American’s in space? (pause) will SHE keep Americans in space?

    ROFL

    get used to it fellas

  • OkieAtty

    Okay- googled it and am reading. Here’s the link if anyone else wants to read it:

    marcambinder.theatlantic.com/greenparty_v_land.pdf

  • TPS

    WRIGHT ATTACKS THE ITALIANS IN DEC 2007

    Wright writes

    At an event in Greensboro, N.C., Obama referred to his outright condemnation of his former pastor’s incendiary comments in last week’s speech, before reiterating that Wright’s words needed to be considered in historical context.

    “This is someone who was preaching three sermons, at least, a week for 30 years, and they were boiled down into a half-hour, and I mean a half-minute sound clip, partially because it spoke to some of the racial divisions” in America, he said.

    Meanwhile, Newsday’s Glenn Thrush has the details of an article Wright wrote in December 2007. Unlike the other previously reported controversial comments, these were made in writing:

    The irrepressible Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is at it again, this time taking aim at Italians — expounding a two-millennium grudge against the sons and daughters of Rome — and their (allegedly) breath-altering predilection for scampi and pesto.

    From the Wright-written eulogy for scholar Asa Hilliard in the December 2007 edition of the Trumpet magazine: “[Jesus’] enemies had their opinion about Him … The Italians, for the most part, looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans.”

    After calling Jesus’ crucifixion “a public lynching Italian-style” executed in “Apartheid Rome,” he goes on to claim that white supremacists run the U.S. government:

    “The government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse; from the Capitol to the Klan, white supremacy is clearly in charge, but Asa, like Jesus, refused to be defined by an oppressive government, because Asa got his identity from an omnipotent God.”

    All this was written before his friend and former parishioner vaulted to the front of the Democratic pack — and before Obama denounced his previous comments on race, AIDS, etc.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Wright_writes.html

    By Avi Zenilman 03:27 PM

  • Idunn

    LOL Arty! That’s gonna be some kind of adjustment, huh?

  • Idunn

    Good Lord, there’s so much offense in that article I’d be hard pressed to be outraged at just one! 😯

  • Artiste

    Idunn….I can’t wait!

    now…as for the drive-thru psychic

    is your prediction we will go broke? LOL

  • OkieAtty

    OMG- reading the decision now. Seeing Celotex and Mashushita is like a giant flash back to Civ Pro when I was a 1L. Aw, my aching brain….

  • Idunn

    From article Okie linked:

    Damn you, Hillary! Just drop out so the superdelegates can nominate someone who has no chance to win the GE! Sure, we’re headed towards the worst financial disaster since the fucking depression and we’re in the midst of two global clusterfucks, but this whole “Let the voters decide” routine will hurt Obama’s feelings! Obama! Don’t you even give a shit about Him?!

    Have you no shame?! God!

    ROTFLMAO!!

  • mj

    Oh well, Obama didn’t read that article. He had no idea. Really.

  • Idunn

    Look how the author capitalized “Him”. Wonder if that was an accident or just some truly brilliant snark. 😉

  • Idunn

    Oh well, Obama didn’t read that article. He had no idea. Really.

    And even if he did, so what? This is NOT a crackpot church, garlic nose!

  • birdgal

    Senator Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton
    are coming Back to the Bay Area & Central Valley!

    Please join us for these exciting events!

    Sunday, March 30th, 2008

    Lunch Reception with President Bill Clinton in Modesto:
    At 12:30 p.m. join President Clinton for a lunch reception in Modesto at the home of Rupinder & Amarjit Dhaliwal, M.D. The cost of the event is $1,000 per person. For more information or to RSVP, contact Sabra Foley at 415-402-0303 or go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/modesto

    Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008

    Reception with Senator Clinton in Menlo Park:
    At 6:00 p.m. please join John Doerr in welcoming Senator Clinton for a reception in Menlo Park at the Quadrus Conference Center. The cost of the event is $500 per person. To attend the 5:00 p.m. VIP reception the cost will be $2,300 per person and will include a picture with the Senator. For more information or to RSVP, contact Marina Costabile at 415-402-0303 or go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/menlopark

    Thursday, April 3rd, 2008 (*please note time change)

    Breakfast with Senator Clinton in San Francisco:
    At 8:00 a.m. join Senator Clinton for breakfast at The Merchants Exchange Building in the Julia Morgan Ballroom in San Francisco. The cost of the event is $250 per person. To attend the 7:30 a.m. VIP reception the cost will be $2,300 per person and will include a picture with the Senator. For more in formation or to RSVP, contact Sabra Foley at 415-402-0303 or go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/sanfrancisco

    Thank you for your support! We look forward to seeing you at these upcoming events!

  • Artiste

    I heard a good bit of McCain’s speech on the radio in Cali today. He sounded like Obama and Kerry. It was freaky. I was thinking this will drive even MORE republican voters to Hillary in the GE. He really DID sound like a latte-lib.

    Hillary REALLY IIS the only one in all this with a spine

  • JAS

    Idunn: Regarding March 28th…. I was hoping or a dead whore in the bed!!!!

  • Tiny Dancer

    You know its not just MI/FL who are getting disenfranchised. If including MI/Fl change the race and they’re ignoring those two states for that reason then by extension any state that voted for Hillary is also being disenfranchised

    Or this garlic nose is smoking crack.

  • dot48

    OKIE, I’ve been suggesting another MASSIVE money bomb for Hillary…

    Maybe this coming Monday would be good .. we really need to push everywhere for donations. The money bomb last time just started folks giving online and sometimes just seeing something makes us come up with a drap more.

  • lninla

    interesting site – alleged anonymous superdelegate answering questions about the process – maybe we can ask him what happens if a certain anonymous pastor renders a certain anonymous candidate completely unelectable?

    What then Mr. Superdelegate?

    mistersuperdelegate.org

  • filbertsf

    lninla Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
    Filberts – will you email me that petition if it’s going around?

    Will do.

  • Idunn

    I was hoping or a dead whore in the bed!!!!

    Well don’t look to ME for that, I’m a lowly mudblud. Hook up with gralic nose over there…maybe she can help you out. 😉

  • Artiste

    JAS – ROFL!

    Dot…i had three bloody mary’s last night, came home and sent $100.44 to Hillary! (After I had donated $25.44 in the morning!)

  • dot48

    From the looks above Hillary is starting to do more fundraising .. I’d rather she was on the campaign trail. Even more reason for our online fundraising drives.

    Time for another MASSIVE moneybomb.

    Okie ..

  • Idunn

    Pass the edit button please. And then spellcheck. 🙄

  • dot48

    I’m already charging my donations and I’m going to pay them off with my rebate check. I can’t think of a better use for my money.

  • JAS

    Again, too funny. Well can’t wait till Friday, what a great day to drop a FART and let it fester all weekend!!!

  • Berkeley Vox

    djia wrote:

    @ Berkeley Vox

    You wrote “Then, Obama donated 275,000 to Wright’s church. Quid pro quo, anyone?”

    I couldn’t find that in the politico article anywhere, can you share a link to this information?

    Thanks 😀
    —————————
    That was my own inference. Seems to me, it’s pretty clear what’s going on here: Obama is allowed to use Wright’s title of his sermon, to go and make millions off book sales, and in exchange, Obama dmakes a hefty donation to Wright’s church. No wonder the two are so close…

  • dot48

    Lets stay on the DNC too .. seat Florida and Michigan BEFORE the convention

  • Artiste

    After I heard McCain speaking today (and maybe it was taileored to his Cali audience) I don’t think I could vote for him either.

    Perhaps Ralph will have to do….

  • Tiny Dancer

    I don’t know if I can come up with a dead whore in 2 days, but I can try. I might be able to come up with a dead horse…

  • I think they are sending a message to the DNC and certain superdelegates that are up for re-election with these fundraisers. That message is, you still need us and DO NOT forget it.

  • dot48

    tiny dancer .. I’ve got a whole herd of horses but you can’t have one of them.

    LOL makes me think of that commercial where they put the horses head.

  • Artiste

    TD…after Wright’s Italian comments, a dead horse may be more effective!

  • Idunn

    I might be able to come up with a dead horse…

    Funniest line of the day! Well done, TD! 🙂

  • Idunn

    I think they are sending a message to the DNC and certain superdelegates that are up for re-election with these fundraisers. That message is, you still need us and DO NOT forget it.

    That was my first thought too.

  • basil9

    artiste,

    What do you mean by this?

    ‘The FOX story on Reid annd the DNC bot girl have me wondering about Barry’s vacation now.

    Was he away sulking, or, resting on his laurels that he is the winner?’

    Are you saying BO has the nomination sown up??????

  • dot48

    aren’t the fundraisers simply for her campaign though? I’m confused.

  • Idunn

    Last comment from me today:

    Every time I see Bambi’s face, I can’t help thinking of Stewie Griffin saying, “They should put a diaper on his FACE…that’s where the crap comes out.”

  • JAS

    I’ll take a dead horse!!!! that is a start 🙂

  • Artiste

    Basil…no….but it seems funny that the DNC Bot I spoke with AND Harry Reid are saying the same thing…that is…IT WILL BE FIXED before SD’d enter into it.

    so…i had to wonder about Barry’s vacation. Perhapps it was just that, and t get away from Wright. But it could be more, in that he knows he will be #2 and doesn’t have too work so hard, or, that he has been ousted. We KNOW Hillary won’t go for a deal that will put her out.

  • wbboei

    lninla Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
    I’m hoping we did not spread the false Cantwell rumor too far and wide as the Obama trolls, even those commenting on TPM are constantly referencing us.
    ——————————————————————-
    Ininla: your point is a good one but it really goes to Cantwells office and how they manage the message. Re-read my two posts if you like and you will see what I mean. I initiated a call to arms only after speaking to their office. Turns out the guy I spoke to did not have the complete information–which happens. We need to be proactive on these matters, we certainly were and we can only proceed on the information we are given. Let me know if there is a problem and I can respond. Thanks.

  • Artiste

    UNLESS…Nancy Pelosi has been asked to step aside “for the good of the Party”

  • true2party

    well, i’m back.

    i thought this was yet another message board taken over by GOP thugs or Obamicans, so i left for a bit. but, i see i was wrong.

    speaking to all those who have almost given up on Hillary:

    DO NOT GIVE UP. DO NOT LET THEM SWAY YOU. as a friend reminded me while watching the sunday bobbleheads trash Bill and trash Hillary, those who quit, lose. plain and simple.

    so, keep up the good work, admin!

    the democratic party has been through worse. we are a strong party. let the chips fall where they may, but we’ll still be the party with a soul. and as Tracy Chapman says, “all that you have is your soul”……

    and my soul says to support Hillary, so that’s what i’m doing from here on out.

  • dot48

    Yes and for Hillary’s GE campaign, but the DNC is practically broke and showing them that the Clintons can still raise a lot of cash does not hurt. They can not afford Bill and Hillary to go on vacation until after the GE.

  • Idunn

    Give up?

    I don’t think we know that word. What does it mean?

  • Artiste

    Hi there True2Party…

    I don’t think you will find anyone here about to “quit” Hillary! Glad you are among us!

    BBut as for true to the DNC? Not me if they stay this course.

  • dot48

    Hillary’s Cashionistas can help too. Continue to show Hillary the LOVE.

    Don’t forget tonight 10pm .. Greta

  • filbertsf

    true2party, don’t know what you’re talking about, dude. The people here may be overzealously reporting everything negative the MSM and pundits are saying (like a freakin’ stenographyer) as they’re watching CNN or MSNBC) but I don’t think anyone here has ever given the impression that they’ve given up on Hillary.

    Those who have given up just don’t show up here anymore. There’s a few I haven’t seen for a while.

  • Idunn

    Ininla, Wbboie…personally, I didn’t take any action on the Cantwell thing. It read more like a “what if” to me, so I didn’t touch it.

  • Artiste

    WOW….Shuttle was supposed to land at 7:05. CNN now reporting landing is scheduled for 8:39PM!

    I saw the shuttle come over Houston at 5am once on its way to Florida to land. It was AWESOME.

    Any FLA residents…go look for a nightime landing….

    fire in the sky! It’s AMAZING

    go to nasa.gov to see flight plan

  • dot48

    We’re with Hillary till the last DAWG dies. Now past that .. I know where my vote will go IF she isn’t the nominee and it won’t be for the Democrat. Not being snide..I don’t trust anyone but her as the leader and the DNC can’t force Obama on me. I have the right to vote a different ticket and I most likely will never return to the party if I go this time. Not grandstanding .. I just don’t like how the party is treating one of its own…

  • Idunn

    Heck, even as we speak we’ve hatched a major plan to put a dead hooker in Bambi’s bed. We’re on top of things over here, don’t you worry. 😉

  • meiyingsu

    from TM comment,

    Please, Don’t Forget to Sign the Petition to Count the Votes in FL & MI.

    It’s almost at 10,000. Let’s send 12,000 signatures to Howard Dean.

    http://www.seatourdelegates.com/
    Save Our Democracy | 03.26.2008 – 5:46 pm | #

  • Artiste

    ROFLMAO!

    Hillary related to Madonna to!

  • basil9

    An interesting analysis of the SD math Title is HORRIBLE but the content is fairly objective and the bottom line, according to Romana, is what we’ve been saying here; it ain’t over until Brillo-head sings.”

    http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/26/could-clinton-drop-out-on-may-7.aspx

  • Artiste

    OMG

    did y’all just hear the CNN “Just IN” story?

  • Idunn

    This teacher was only HALF wrong though, so I hope they cut her some slack.

    elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/26/delaware-teacher-sorry-after-mother-complains-she-told-class-obama-is-a-scary-muslim/

  • djia

    @Artiste

    I didn’t I have been on fox today, what is “just in”??

  • Artiste

    CNNN Just in

    Saddam Intel paid three US Lawmakers and brouht them to Iraq just before the war…

    three from and/or money went to DETROIT

    more to follow

  • Idunn

    Damn it, Arty, you know I don’t get cable! What?!

  • Artiste

    I know Idunn…i’ll start sending you half my bill!

  • meiyingsu

    Feds Say Saddam Officials Arranged Secret Pre-war Iraq Trip for U.S. Lawmakers
    Wednesday, March 26, 2008

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    Federal prosecutors say Saddam Hussein’s intelligence agency secretly financed a trip to Iraq for three U.S. lawmakers during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion.

    An indictment in Detroit accuses Muthanna Al-Hanooti of arranging for three members of Congress to travel to Iraq in October 2002 at the behest of Saddam’s regime. Prosecutors say

    Iraqi intelligence officials paid for the trip through an intermediary.

    In exchange, Al-Hanooti allegedly received 2 million barrels of Iraqi oil.

    The lawmakers are not mentioned but the dates correspond to a trip by Democratic Reps. Jim McDermott of Washington, David Bonior of Michigan and Mike Thompson of California. There was no indication the three lawmakers knew the trip was underwritten by Saddam.

  • Artiste

    Obama :”I am not afraid of annyone! I hope we don;t get distracted by thie (his minister’s story)

  • tcbequalityactions

    Definitely check out the latest post over at TM by Joseph Wilson –

    “Smears and Tears: How Obama’s National Security Week Turned Into the Mendacity of Hype
    Expert Guest Post by Joseph C. Wilson
    originally posted on Huffington Post

    Josepher C. Wilson
    The past week marked the fifth anniversary of the Iraq War and the milestone of the 4,000th American soldier killed in that disastrous adventure. Commemorating and underscoring the urgent need for a new policy direction, Senator Clinton delivered a serious and detailed address clearly setting out her vision for and commitment to ending the conflict. Her approach includes a direct critique of the most glaring failures of the Bush administration: its unwillingness to use political pressure and intense international diplomacy to effect a resolution of the outstanding differences that have driven the region into a proxy war within Iraq with the United States manning and supporting combatants on all sides. For years American generals have been telling the administration, the Congress, and the public that Iraq is not a situation that lends itself to a military solution and will only be resolved politically. While the focus of American opprobrium has been on the Iraqi government for its failure to find those solutions, Senator Clinton, in her speech, is the first presidential candidate to spell out in a precise plan the elements required for an international effort, including co-opting and controlling the enablers of the ongoing violence in Iraq, to promote political reconciliation and reform.

    Understandably, Senator Obama’s speech on race relations overshadowed Senator Clinton’s policy pronouncements. While laudable in intent, Senator Obama would never have made the speech had his relationship with fiery pastor Jeremiah Wright not become a public relations nightmare for him. Among other things, Wright preaches that the United States government unleashed the HIV virus in Africa to kill blacks. (Having worked in Africa for much of my adult life, including with one of the early AIDS researchers, Dr. Jonathan Mann, I can safely say that there is absolutely no evidence to sustain Wright’s reckless charge.) Obama had no choice but to address his 20-year close relationship with a man he still considers, as he made clear in his speech, a mentor.

    In the immediate aftermath, the Obama campaign dispatched several foreign policy surrogates to blitz the airwaves, supposedly to offer alternatives to Clinton’s recommendations. But that’s not what happened. Instead, Hillary was subjected to yet another round of personal abuse, denigration and ridicule rather than a serious debate of the issues. The real subtext of the Obama campaign was to attack Hillary in order to distract from Obama’s association with his anti-American preacher. National security went un-addressed. Rather than filling in his largely absent record, Obama had his surrogates engage in what can be termed the mendacity of hype.”

  • Blue Democrat

    Jamie Rubin should be Hillary’s ONLY spokesperson for the remainder
    of the campaign.

    Where the FUCK has he been?

  • moononpluto

    Funny how all this Iraqi money leads to Detroit, I bet Obama’s mixed up in it somewhere, no doubt.

    Federal prosecutors say Saddam Hussein’s intelligence agency secretly financed a trip to Iraq for three U.S. lawmakers during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion.

    An indictment in Detroit accuses Muthanna Al-Hanooti of arranging for three members of Congress to travel to Iraq in October 2002 at the behest of Saddam’s regime. Prosecutors say

    Iraqi intelligence officials paid for the trip through an intermediary.

    In exchange, Al-Hanooti allegedly received 2 million barrels of Iraqi oil.

    The lawmakers are not mentioned but the dates correspond to a trip by Democratic Reps. Jim McDermott of Washington, David Bonior of Michigan and Mike Thompson of California. There was no indication the three lawmakers knew the trip was underwritten by Saddam.

  • Idunn

    Federal prosecutors say Saddam Hussein’s intelligence agency secretly financed a trip to Iraq for three U.S. lawmakers during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion.

    For what purpose? Any idea?

  • Artiste

    meiyingsu…thanks

    this will be interesting

  • texan4hillary

    some superds mad at hillary for being devisive-this si what we are up against.
    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/26/820834.aspx

  • Idunn

    Muthanna Al-Hanooti

    Start googling.

  • dot48

    Yeah, Obama wants to run as fast as he can from his “spiritual advisor” and “uncle”. Karl Rove on Fox today, still hammering it home. The architect is already weaving a plan of “judgement” “inexperience” and “false hope”…

  • confloyd

    I fired off two e-mails to the DNC last evening reinterating that I will vote for McCain and my family will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee. I also said that he is finished and can’t possibly win the general after the Rev. Wright, Farrahkan, New Black Panther Party and the Nation of Islam connections>

  • moononpluto

    Funny how money goes to Detroit from Iraq through this guy, how long before, Auchi, Rezko and Obama’s names crops up in it.

    It certainly would explain the anti iraq war stance from certain quarters.

  • texan4hillary

    also why is hillary going on fox tongiht? im not comfortabe with this at all-remember these guys are not our friends.

  • meiyingsu

    texan4hillary, those superds are BS. the only one who is devisive is BHO. He is the only who will destroy democratic party.

  • dot48

    212.790.2299

    CALL MSNBC . Race for the White House/ David Gregory

  • JAS

    Okay… I live under a rock… what is TM?

  • filbertsf

    Did any of those three lawmakers endorse Obama?

  • dot48

    T4H .. because she can’t get on the other programs .. simple

    They freeze out her surrogates and then they freeze out her. Its part of the DNC plan.

    Hillary needs to come out strong in PA, WV and IN and keep it very close in NC….we all got work we can do to help her win. Let us just continue to work.

  • true2party

    per googling mike thompson endorses hillary. i think it shows that he was concerned enough to go and check it out in person.

  • JAS

    what are the current poll numbers for IN.???

  • wbboei

    1950democrat @ 2:52: very perceptive. If SDs are serious about winning the election then it stands to reason that the electoral vote count must be considered in selecting the nominee. I believe Senator Bayh raised that point recently.

  • basil9

    Just saw the Murtha/HRC clip on HRC blog. I noticed there were a LOT of men in the audience. That’s a great sign, I think. Other rallies I’ve seen seem to have had a preponderance of women voters. Anyone else notice that?

    Love Murtha. And he was passionate in his introduction.

  • dot48

    Bush speaking in MidApril about status of troops in Iraq…wouldn’t it be something if he starts a quick drawdown within weeks…holy sheet!

  • lninla

    filbertsf – I was wondering about the relevance of the Saddam-financed trip for U.S. lawmakers too to this site.

  • meiyingsu

    from TM comment,

    Watching David Gregory now. Dem party is very nervous about Hillary’s supporters voting for McCain- 28%. Joe Scarborough think superdelegates may try to make a move which is probably why Carville made the Judas comment last week.

    Folks, remember every member of House of Reps is up for re-election this year. IF YOUR CONGRESSPERSON IS A DEM AND HAS NOT ENDORSED YET, LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE EXPECTING THEM TO WAIT UNTIL EVERY STATE HAS VOTED!!!!!

  • Caroline

    Those that post comments from TM should give credit on who made the comment. I saw a comment I posted on TM posted here a few days ago with no credit. It is very very annoying.

  • JAS

    What is TM??????

  • filbertsf

    Off-topic: “A-Rod denies allegations of steroid use – Canseco’s claim”

    I wonder if Conseco is the sports version of Joseph McCarthy. Dumbass has been dropping names left and right. Even rumors of steroids use could jeopardize someone’s career.

  • filbertsf

    JAS, not “what,” who. Who as in the lovely Taylor Marsh.

  • wbboei

    tcbequalityactions at 6:03 pm

    BO=THE MENDACITY OF HYPE

    May I please have another? yes!

    ACTION TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS

  • JAS

    filbertsf: I should have known that… as I said before, I live under a rock 🙂

  • filbertsf

    Caroline, welcome to the world wide web… pretty soon, Obama is going to claim you stole his idea.

  • skmf12

    artiste,

    can you find a funner name please?

  • Idunn

    Crap…I found nothing on Muthanna Al-Hanooti. Tried Rezko, Auchi, Alsamarre…zip. I think I’m just to sick to find a connection though. I’d bet my bottom dollar there’s one SOMEWHERE. 🙁

  • mj

    Texan, you worry way too much. Hill will do great as she always does. What the heck would going on CNN or MSNBC do for her?

  • Tiny Dancer

    Her name should be the “artist formerly known as spacegirl”

  • Hi everyone. I received a nasty email from an Obamabot yesterday that got my email address from this website. Someone asked last week if there was a place we could swap info privately.

    I have created a safe space on my politwix.com forum specifically for hillaryis44 members that want a place to strategize, swap emails, etc, away from prying eyes. go to:

    politwix.com/kt

    I’ve made a private section called Organizing that is only accessible once I have set up permissions for you for it. If you would like to use this area, please register first with the same name you have here and I will give you permission for this area.

    That should eliminate the need to post private emails here since my forum allows you to send private messages to each other. I am not trying to suggest you use my site instead of this one — I’m just trying to provide a safe place for more sensitive communication since the bots are being particulary obnoxious. Maybe admin would even like to place a link and offer this as a part of hillaryis44?

  • djia

    @IDUNN

    I missed something, why are we to google muthanna ?

  • filbertsf

    lninla Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
    filbertsf – I was wondering about the relevance of the Saddam-financed trip for U.S. lawmakers too to this site.

    I was just being glib. However, if it’s true that Thompson guy endorsed Hillary, they’ll try to bring her into this. They always do. PA woman gets run over by a car… CNN NEWSFLASH, “Could a ‘Hillary4President’ sign have distracted the driver?”

  • Tiny Dancer

    Canseco is a first class a-hole. He and ARod were tight at one time. Alex has burned a lot of bridges though I have no goodwill for him either.

  • mj

    David Bonior was Edwards campaign manager, so I’m sure that will overshadow anything else.

  • Idunn

    I missed something, why are we to google muthanna

    Just trying to see if there was any connection to the folks I already mentioned. I couldn’t find anything, so nevermind.

  • djia

    good idea hillbillylover!

    I have often thought this site as it is known so well should focus mainly on Hillary in a possitive light rather than the major focus being on Obami and how much we despise the media. I know i am new to posting here, but believe me I have been lurking a long time and tried for along time to post as well before i actually could LOL

    just my .02 cents

  • texan4hillary

    why hillary is comming out against wright-and why the nitwits in our party should have weeks ago-he is hruting hillary and bo int he general now. wright’s assoc with obama is hurting our party. hey nancy-stop trying to seal it for obama and start distancing the party from wright
    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/163651/860

  • skmf12

    dancer,

    i dont think she wanted her last one linked to her new one…
    cause you know, she’s had problems…

    but whatever…
    i just wanted here to have a fun happy name…

  • filbertsf

    Tiny, I like more evidence before an athlete gets tagged with steroid use than a claim by a loser like Conseco. He was always full of himself. Mr. Me Me Me. Look at my muscles, ladies!

    Yeah. Your muscles full of anabolic steroids.

  • djia

    @IDUNN

    but what is he connected to that initiated the idea to google?

  • mj

    texan4hillary Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
    why hillary is comming out against wright-and why the nitwits in our party should have weeks ago-he is hruting hillary and bo int he general now. wright’s assoc with obama is hurting our party. hey nancy-stop trying to seal it for obama and start distancing the party from wright
    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/163651/860

    It’s an election. Buckle up elections are bumpy. She isn’t “coming out against Wright”, she’s simply answering a personal question asked of her. Would she have stayed? No. The entire Party should have told BO to disassociate from this wingnut, unless their superduper plan is to lose the GE.

  • debbie

    every house member that endorses Hillary, will get any piece of legislation they try tp pass thrown in the trash by Pelosi.

  • Idunn

    Just Iraq. Made me wonder if there was any connection to Auchi or Rezko. Or Alsammare. That’s all.

  • moononpluto

    So this Muthanna guy is the leader of the biggest islamic charity and a terrorist front for Hamas, funny HAMAS seems to be making a big noise over the last week, with Wright, Trinity and Obama. What a surprise.

    One of those investigations apparently involves Hamad’s close ties to Muthanna Al-Hanooti, Mohammed Alomari, and their charities, LIFE for Relief and Development and FAAIR (Focus on Arab American Issues and Reform). Hidden in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Southfield, Michigan, LIFE is believed to fund Hamas via contributions to Hamas front groups identified in 2001 by FBI Assistant Director for Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence, Dale Watson. One such front, Human Appeal International, believed by the FBI to be Hamas’ Jordanian operation, was listed in LIFE tax returns as one of three supported organizations receiving millions in contributions. Human Appeal and another organization LIFE works with, Human Relief Foundation, are listed as participants in the “101 days campaign” website of Sheikh Youssef Al-Qaradawi, spiritual leader of terrorist group Muslim Brotherhood. The site is believed to raise money for homicide bombings Al-Qaradawi supports.

    Funny how Hamas seems to becoming a big noise lately.

  • Artiste

    dija…please!

    that would be your .44 cents! ;-D

  • Tiny Dancer

    Filbert – I wasn’t implying ARod did steroids just that Canseco is an a-hole for implicating someone he was such good friends with. The part about me not having any goodwill for ARod has more to do with being a bitter Seattle Mariners fan. Personally, I think Alex really is just that talented. He also works his ass off.

    Canseco is just a jerk, period.

  • Idunn

    I caught that same article when I did a search, Moon…but did post it here because of where it came from. Interesting, though.

  • mp

    Tht guy from WA also endorsed Hillary!

  • Idunn

    did=didn’t.

  • mj

    debbie Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
    every house member that endorses Hillary, will get any piece of legislation they try tp pass thrown in the trash by Pelosi.

    But Nan doesn’t control the pork. That would be Murtha and Rangel.

  • Artiste

    and my bad typos djia…sorry anbout the name

    skmf….

    Arty was my nickname for YEARS on other sites. It’s kind of a fit.

  • Idunn

    Tht guy from WA also endorsed Hillary!

    Well, that’s no big deal. Unless it means we lose him as an sd.

  • mj

    mp Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    Tht guy from WA also endorsed Hillary!

    So? It’s irrelevant.

  • djia, you have permission set up now for the “safehouse”. LOL

  • dot48

    nothing is going to happen to these people .. they didnt even know who underwrote the trip .. however I do find the timing of this a bit strange..

  • mp

    somebody mentioned about those 20 fundraisers in CA:

    Yes they are part of hillary’s campaign but I came to know one of them in the last few months.
    these folks have raised millions for the DEMS and believe me, they are mighty PISSED right now!

    so if anybody wants a 3rd party….well these people may be the ticket for funding! Just like those FL fundraisers…they might want their money back from Nancy/DNC!

  • mj

    dot48 Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
    nothing is going to happen to these people .. they didnt even know who underwrote the trip

    Correct.

  • filbertsf

    mj, how much you want to bet MSM will work Hillary into this story somehow and someway.

    I think Ininla’s suspicion may prove to be true.

  • Idunn

    anyone online articles about it up yet? Like I said (a thousand times) I don’t have cable. 😉

  • filbertsf

    mp, are you planning participate in the protest rally on Friday at the SJ Convention Center? I actually know one of people who are involved in organizing it. It’s she who sent out the petition and emails.

  • mj

    Perhaps, but no legs.

  • Artiste

    INteresting thing on that Detroit story…AP has a dateline of 2007.

    Why is it NOW coming up on CNN?

  • Just a reminder that Hill is going to be on Hannity and Colmes and Greta tonight!

  • filbertsf

    Idunn Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
    anyone online articles about it up yet? Like I said (a thousand times) I don’t have cable”

    Wat ja say? Don’t they teach you English in TN?

  • Ronald

    Idunn-
    I found some old info on debbie schlussel.com but I couldn’t get through it.
    Try googling Muthanna Al-Hanooti rezko

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/columns/

    see what you can find….

  • Artiste

    “Move over Zel Miller and Joe Lieberman, for Senator Obama is coming to join you. The Republicans are benefitting from Obama’s naivete. They are sitting back and joyously rubbing their hands together, as they watch their foe (who embodies the ideal of social justice in America) is being eviscerated by one in her own Party! If things don’t work out Ms. Clinton, do what Benedict Arnold Joe Lieberman did, consider completing your journey as an Independent Candidate! America needs you!”

    obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008_03_09_archive.html

    LOVE the name of this blog!

  • Idunn

    Wat ja say? Don’t they teach you English in TN?

    You can’t pick on me when I’m sick. 😥

  • I loved some British paper talking about “if Mrs. Clinton flounces out to start her own party.”

    I’ll come, wearing ruffles and a big picture hat!

    Gosh I wish it were that easy!

  • Idunn

    Try googling Muthanna Al-Hanooti rezko

    I did. Tried every Rezko connection I could think of, and came up empty. But if there’s a there there, Larry over on NOQUARTER will find it. I’m giving up.

  • Idunn

    I loved some British paper talking about “if Mrs. Clinton flounces out to start her own party.”

    I’ll come, wearing ruffles and a big picture hat!

    I’ll supply the band. 🙂

  • mp Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    somebody mentioned about those 20 fundraisers in CA:

    Yes they are part of hillary’s campaign but I came to know one of them in the last few months.
    these folks have raised millions for the DEMS and believe me, they are mighty PISSED right now!

    so if anybody wants a 3rd party….well these people may be the ticket for funding! Just like those FL fundraisers…they might want their money back from Nancy/DNC!

    Even if they would do to Pelosi what the Obama people did to John Lewis — put up a challenger to Pelosi for her Congressional seat!

  • Idunn, are you a musician?

  • 1950dem, I sent you an email.

  • admin

    Quick word of warning on a new Wall Street Journal/NBC poll that is being touted on MSNBC and other outlets showing Hillary dropping significantly all over the place and hurt more than Obama by the Wright story.

    This sentence from the NBC First Read report is one you will not hear about:

    “In addition, we oversampled African-Americans in order to get a more reliable cross-tab on many of the questions we asked in this poll regarding Sen. Barack Obama’s speech on race and overall response to last week’s Rev. Jeremiah Wright dustup.”

    Got it? The poll oversamples Obama supporters.

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/26/821438.aspx

    We have not yet seen the full poll to comment further.

  • debbie Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
    every house member that endorses Hillary, will get any piece of legislation they try tp pass thrown in the trash by Pelosi.

    Mm. I think Pelosi is using bad judgement and being unfair and needs a kick in the constituency as a wake-up call. But accusing her of planning revenge later … well, I wouldn’t spread threats she may not even be making….

  • Idunn

    Meh…I never really put too much stock in polls anyway. 🙂

  • mp

    Filbertsf:

    Yes I am joining the protest on Friday…the SHE organiser (initial of her first name is P) asked me and well I just could not say no!

    And I also met a lady in the local library yesterday and she called me up today and also will be joining in!

  • filbertsf

    Idunn… when I was in TX, I met a guy from TN. I’ve never met anyone from TN before. This guy embodied every preconceived stereotypes I had about Southerners.

    He had an “accent” as thick as molasses. He was from a town of 3,500 and his mannerism came straight out of Mayberry. I could’ve sworn I was talking to Sheriff Andy Taylor.

    Do y’all really say y’all and “yes, sir/ma’am” and “no, sir/ma’am” in every sentence? It gets pretty tiring to be so polite all the damn time.

  • filbertsf

    mp Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
    Filbertsf:

    Yes I am joining the protest on Friday…the SHE organiser (initial of her first name is P) asked me and well I just could not say no!

    Oh, Jesus Christ. This is a small world. I wonder if I know you, too.

  • Idunn

    Southerners are generally well raised and polite, yes. 🙂

  • Idunn

    And at 40, I still address my elders as Ma’am and Sir. 🙂

  • Tiny Dancer

    The fact that its an NBC poll should tell you what their motive is.

  • djia

    # HillBillyLover Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    djia, you have permission set up now for the “safehouse”. LOL

    Thanks……Okay… Project “Plotting in private” under way! LOL

  • filbertsf

    Why in hell would Hillary be “hurt more by the Wright story?” File that under WTF!

    What is up with AA supporters these days. I bet they think Hillary is behind it.

  • mj

    Oh lord, if that poll is true, then Dem’s are dumber than doornails.

  • mj

    filbertsf Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
    Why in hell would Hillary be “hurt more by the Wright story?” File that under WTF!

    No kidding, That’s freaking absurd!

  • Idunn

    dumber than doornails

    LOL…DEADER than doornails, DUMBER than Door Knobs. 😉

  • dot48

    well if we “oversampled” we could warp the results as well. They must think people are really stupid

  • djia Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    I have often thought this site as it is known so well should focus mainly on Hillary in a possitive light rather than the major focus being on Obami and how much we despise the media. I know i am new to posting here, but believe me I have been lurking a long time and tried for along time to post as well before i actually could LOL

    There are lots of sweet positive Hillary only sites, I think. One place to start might be hillaryclinton.com I think ours is pretty well balanced, though sometimes a lot of us need support at once and come here for it.

    We deal with negative facts that we will need to answer in debate elsewhere, but mostly we deal with them in a positive, can-do, Hillary style fashion. 🙂 We do oppo on Obama, but fair and accurate and not too personal.

    What was the problem with ‘before you could post’? The only problem I’ve heard of is that ordinary complete url’s get delayed in a spam filter, and sometimes by the time the post goes up, the poster has gone offline and doesn’t know it went up.

    (The cure is to use h t t p or just cut that beginning out altogether.)

  • filbertsf

    All of the sudden, Ms. Idunn, who is supposedly ill, awakens to correct the proper grammatical structure of an insult. Classic!

  • birdgal

    filbert and mp: do you have a link for the protest on friday? I live in northern CA.

    gailfahey@yahoo.com

  • Idunn

    All of the sudden, Ms. Idunn, who is supposedly ill, awakens to correct the proper grammatical structure of an insult. Classic!

    Well…that hurts my feelings. 😉

  • basil9

    I HAD to post this, both for a laugh and as a cautionary tale about the Dem. Party’s archaic and counter-productive rules.

    Rush listening in the car and a caller from Texas gets on the line and says he followed Rush’s strategy of registering as a Democrat and voted for HRC.

    Rush asks if the caller, Terry, is a Repub and the guy says yes.

    Then Terry says he not only voted for HRC, he CAUCuSED for her and THEN he was elected to be one of the caucus state delegates and he may be appointed a Denver participant.

    Rush of course is Laughing his a$$ off (I gotta admit, some of this stuff is classic Keystone cops) and then Terry says he doesn’t know what to do NOW and asks for Rush’s advice!

    Rush asks if he’s comfortable staying undercover and Terry says it’s the most fun he’s ever had, his neighbor is the head of the Democratic whatever (terry is from Austin) and SHE doesn’t even know he’s a Republican.

    This is our party, folks. 😳

  • filbertsf

    birdie, here’s the Petition and the email I received from “P”. Private info will be excluded.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/countFLoridaandMichigan

    Folks in CA and other states,

    I received the below petition from Houston, Texas…I know we’ve signed other petitions before, but not since the decisions that have been made recently (at least I haven’t). To update those not in the Bay Area, we are organizing a demonstration at our California State Democratic Convention in San Jose—on Friday March 28th when Nancy Pelosi will be speaking. The theme is Voter Disenfranchisement/Voter Issues. We are not wearing Hillary shirts, caps, buttons, etc. It’s NOT about the candidates. It’s about our votes…our voices…As stated in the petition, it’s not just MI & FL; I think we all agree that there is an underlying theme in our political parties that disenfranchising voters is acceptable. 1) DNC disenfranchised MI & FL voters 2) Caucuses – are these inclusive? We’ve seen how these work and how they disenfranchise voters and 3) Open primaries! So it’s okay for Republicans to vote in a Democratic primary, but vote Republican in the general election—throwing an election? Astonishing!

    Please sign the petition, and if you can, bring your hand made posters and join us at the SJ Convention Center at 4:30pm. Please rsvp to this email address if you can make it Friday…If you are not in CA you may organize a demonstration at your state convention… signed “P”

  • rgb44hrc

    Spreading the Good Word:

    I’ve made friends with a guy who runs a newsstand here in Philly, and a few months ago, we both started talking about the election, and both shared the feeling that Hillary was by far the best candidate. And over the weeks, we’d talk about this topic or that (how’s things looking in State X?).

    So today, I finally thought to ask him if he had internet access. He said yes, so I gave him this web site, and told him about all the useful info and nice people that can be found here.

    A nice change from turning on the TV every night and going, WTF??!!!

  • Idunn

    Okay…THAT’S the funniest thing I’ve heard all day, Basil. 🙂

  • mp

    No link…but send you the email….

    filbertsf: maybe I met you in TX…did you lose a jacket in my car?

  • Tiny Dancer

    I suspect we’ll be seeing a lot of polls that oversample Obama’s base popping up over the next few weeks.

  • Idunn

    Terry says it’s the most fun he’s ever had, his neighbor is the head of the Democratic whatever (terry is from Austin) and SHE doesn’t even know he’s a Republican.

    hey, wait a sec…that’s ALOT of info on old “Terry”. I bet we could smoke him out, maybe send him a little “thank you” gift just to mess with him. 😉

  • wbboei Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    1950democrat @ 2:52: very perceptive. If SDs are serious about winning the election then it stands to reason that the electoral vote count must be considered in selecting the nominee. I believe Senator Bayh raised that point recently.

    I’ve seen several bigwigs quoted as raising it. Maybe their nuances aren’t getting through the press, but I wish while they’re at it they would emphasize a bottom like of ‘electoral votes in swing states’, since most of BO’s come from red states.

  • filbertsf

    mp, I was in Austin. I recall you saying you were in Houston and Dallas. I was nowhere near there.

    But I’m always in need of jacket. You can pretend it’s mine and send it my way.

  • Artiste

    TD…if that is the case (and thank you Admin for the heads up on that poll)) then when they get the PANTS BEATEN OFF THEM, the polls will be totally discredited AGAIN as will the MSM who use these!

  • confloyd Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    I fired off two e-mails to the DNC last evening reinterating that I will vote for McCain and my family will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee. I also said that he is finished and can’t possibly win the general after the Rev. Wright, Farrahkan, New Black Panther Party and the Nation of Islam connections>

    Heh. Let’s say that no delegates won before Wright Day should count. Declare amnesty for all those delegates and voters to switch to Uncommitted. Last month was the politics of old, from now on is the politics of new!

  • johnflint1985

    Obama-church newsletter: Israel making ‘ethnic bomb’

    Accuses ‘apartheid’ state of creating weapon ‘that kills blacks and Arabs’
    By Aaron Klein

    JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama’s Chicago church published an open letter from a Palestinian activist that labels Israel an “apartheid” regime and claims the Jewish state worked on an “ethnic bomb” that kills “blacks and Arabs.”

    The letter, discovered by the blog Sweetness & Light, was published on the “Pastor’s Page” of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks prompted the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech last week.

    “I must tell you that Israel was the closest ally to the white supremacists of South Africa,” wrote the letter’s author, Ali Baghdadi. “In fact, South Africa allowed Israel to test its nuclear weapons in the ocean off South Africa. The Israelis were given a blank check: they could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs.”

    The June 10, 2007, newsletter, which is still available at Obama’s church’s website, identifies Baghdadi as an Arab-American activist, writer and columnist who “acted as a Middle East advisor to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the founder of the Nation of Islam, as well as Minister Louis Farrakhan.”

    The piece is titled “An open letter to Oprah,” referring to talk show giant Oprah Winfrey, who last year accepted an invitation to visit Israel offered to her by Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel. Winfrey had been a member of Obama’s church but reportedly departed in 1986.

    Baghdadi’s letter originally was printed in the Palestine Times, a pro-Palestinian newspaper published in London.

    Obama’s church hosted Baghdadi’s letter stating Palestinians face “genocide and ethnic cleansing … every hour of the day.”
    “For many centuries, Jews escaped the discrimination and death they were subjected to in Europe, and found safety and refuge among us,” writes Baghdadi.

    But the activist doesn’t address the more than 800,000 Jews who were expelled or left Arab countries under threat after Israel was founded in 1948.

    Continues Baghdadi: “Muslims believe in Christianity and Judaism. The Quran states there is no distinction between Muhammad, Jesus and Moses.”

    In contrast to Baghdadi’s declarations, Sheik Taysir Tamimi, chief Palestinian Justice and one of the most influential Muslim leaders in Israel, told WND during a recent interview Moses and Jesus were really “prophets for Islam.”

    “Your Torah was falsified,” stated Tamimi during the interview.
    Tamimi is considered the second most important Palestinian cleric after Muhammad Hussein, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Tamimi said Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus were “prophets for the Israelites sent by Allah as to usher in Islam.”

    Continuing in the church newsletter, Baghdadi writes: “During the Second Intifadah, the uprising against Israeli occupation, Muslim and Christian activists, chased by the Israeli death squads, were given refuge in the Church [of the Nativity in Bethlehem].”

    Baghdadi was referring to an episode in 2002 when gunmen from several major Palestinian terror organizations holed up inside the nativity church while fleeing a massive Israeli anti-terror operation. More than 200 nuns and priests were trapped in the church after Israeli hostage negotiators failed to secure their immediate release. Following the ordeal, which lasted 39 days, scores of church clergy thanked Israel for securing their release.
    Some clergy told reporters of deplorable conditions inside the church. Four Greek monks told the Washington Times the Palestinian gunmen holed up with them seized church stockpiles of food and “ate like greedy monsters” until the food ran out, while the trapped civilians went hungry. They said Christians were forced to sleep in cold floors while terrorist leaders occupied the priests quarters and slept on beds and mattresses.

  • Caroline

    basil9 that is funny. LMAO

  • johnflint1985

    worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f…w&pageId=59884

    Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto

    The latest revelation about published material from Obama’s church follows the discovery last week by BizzyBlog that Trinity United Church of Christ reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group’s official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America’s Declaration of Independence.

    The Hamas piece also was published on Wright’s “Pastor’s Page.” It was written by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the publication as a “deputy of the political bureau of Hamas.”

    According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the “brains” behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group’s policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S.

    Obama e-mailed the Jewish Telegraphic Agency a statement regarding the Hamas publication in his church newsletter explaining he “certainly wasn’t in church when that outrageously wrong Los Angeles Times piece was re-printed in the bulletin.”

  • Idunn

    can’t possibly win the general after the Rev. Wright, Farrahkan, New Black Panther Party and the Nation of Islam connections

    You forgot William Ayers. 🙂

  • Tiny Dancer

    I just got home and I’m trying to watch the Andrea Mitchell/Jamie Rubin video and I can’t get past Andrea. She can’t form a coherent sentence, it’s like she’s drunk.

    MSNBC needs to bulldoze their on-air staff. The Muppets would do a better job reporting the news than the current crew over there.

  • Artiste

    For Florida fans…and those who may be watching in Mexico and the Gulf…

    Shuttle landing groundtrack for 8:39 pm eastern.

    I will be outside looking south east at about 8:15!

    http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts123/080324tracks/index2.html

  • mp

    Yes…I was in houston/dallas…it is rather troublesome…I gave a ride in my car to this volunteer from SF, and have forgotten her name…she left the black jacket…I called the office many times in Houston but nobody knew her name.

  • Artiste

    TD….

    I would again watch MSNBC…

    “The Muppets would do a better job reporting the news than the current crew over there.”

  • Idunn

    MP, is the jacket leather?

  • johnflint1985

    http://www.israelmilitary.net/showpost.php?p=27999&postcount=2

    part of this article above

    …….The freshest controversy, however, may be tougher to douse. The American Spectator, a conservative magazine, uncovered a 2003 interview with U.S. Army Gen. Merrill “Tony” McPeak, currently a co-chairman of the Obama campaign and — like Obama — an early and consistent critic of the Iraq war.

    In the interview with The Oregonian, McPeak faulted the Bush administration’s Iraq policy in part for not being part of a broader Middle East strategy. Asked who is at fault – the White House or the State Department – he answered: “New York City. Miami. We have a large vote – vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it.” The reporters pressed McPeak to assign responsibility to a faction within the Bush administration, but he insisted on returning to Israel and its US supporters…..

  • texan4hillary

    yes i understand “buckle up.” ive worked for jim webb, john kerry, al gore, harold ford, chris bell, and many others.

  • filbertsf

    mp, then nevermind about the jacket. A ladies jacket wouldn’t suit me well.

    I met a few people from CA, two from SF — although I never saw them at the HQ.

    Austin folks were a great bunch. So many were from out-of-states. Some came as far as NY. Hardworking as hell.

  • Tiny Dancer

    I have the PERFECT song for this primary, I’m just trying to find a downloadable version of it. It’s just so fitting.

  • I don’t know much about the DNC but there have been at least two factions in it since 2004. At that time Dean got in as new head, but he can’t have got rid of all the old people yet, even if he were trying. I think a friend of the Clintons’, McAuliffe, was the old head. Brazile has been in it (and acting stupid) at least since 2000.

    So there have got to be some Clinton supporters left in it, plus some neutral people who have common sense and want to win this election!

    I’d like to see something that really explains all this and tells us how to put some real pressure on Dean, like supporting an opponent to him — and how to get rid of Brazile!

  • rgb44hrc

    Andrea can’t form a complete sentence?

    &&
    What about that um, uh, that debate guy, uh, Osam…, i mean, uh, Obama. I agree with everything that um, uh, Hillary, just said, about that Government index thingie. But I just want to add that I slightly disagree with her, in that, um, people will cringe when she says it, but they’ll get behind me when I repeat it verbatim. Thank you for believing in my believing in you to believe in yourselves, that you have, um, faith in me. And God Bless….uh-merica.

  • filbertsf

    And as I understand it, I might have met Ininla’s LA buddies and not even know it.

    I never saw kaffeen there.

  • Idunn

    have the PERFECT song for this primary,

    SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL, maybe? 😉

  • mp

    Oh my god…this terry guy from Austin sounds a hoot!

    Actually this is becoming frightening…the DNC does not even who’s who in their party and now the candidates do not even know who their supporters are.

    Idunn: If I came to TN, would you go with me to see Gore and personally ask him to form a new party!

    Remember Gore is rich, especially today …he has been give 10,000 shares (or options) from APPLE

  • johnflint1985

    Obama Advisor Blames US Jews for Lack of Mid-East Peace

    (IsraelNN.com) Once again a furor surrounding US Presidential candidate Barack Obama has erupted, this time over a senior military advisor to the Obama campaign with a history of anti-Israel remarks. He has strongly criticized pro-Israel Jews in the United States for allegedlytorpedoing peace efforts in the Middle East.

    In a 2003 interview with The Oregonian newspaper unearthed by The American Spectator magazine, General Merrill “Tony” McPeak, a former chief of staff in the United States Air Force who is a candidate for secretary of defense in a potential Obama administration, claimed that efforts to bring peace between Israel and the Palestinian Authority failed because there is no US-written “playbook” to create peace.

    An interviewer asked General McPeak “So where’s the problem? State? White House?” McPeak pulled no punches. “(The problem rests in) New York City. Miami. We have a large vote – vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it…nobody wants to take on that problem. It’s just too tough politically. So that means we can’t . . . you can’t develop a Middle East strategy. It’s impossible,” he said.

    Even prior to the Oregonian interview, McPeak was known as a long-time critic of Israel’s presence in Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan Heights. In a 1976 article in Foreign Affairs magazine, he criticized Israel for refusing to withdraw from areas liberated in the 1967 Six Day War, even as he wrote poignantly about the vital security advantages Israel obtained by conquering those areas.

    “At the Suez Canal, Israel had the best ‘tank ditch’ in the Middle East. The Gaza Strip, long a nursery for Egyptian-supported terrorism reaching to within a few miles of Tel Aviv, had come under Israeli administration. On the Golan, Israel at last held the high ground. The bulge of the West Bank, an implicit threat that Israel would be cut in two, had been superseded by the line of the Jordan River. More important, the air threat to Israel had disappeared, at least for the moment. Tel Aviv had been 12 minutes flying time from Egyptian bases in the northern Sinai,” he wrote.

    Yet the same article calls for an Israeli withdrawal from those areas, and seems to suggest that despite Israel’s legitimate security concerns, “genuine security depends on regional accommodation, which the Arab states say cannot occur until all of the occupied territory is returned.”

    Latest storm
    The storm surrounding McPeak is the latest in a series of anti-Israel revelations to tar the Obama campaign in recent months. Obama has long been a favorite son of left wing elements in the United States, but has been strongly criticized for failing to cut ties with radical preacher Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Wright has called Israel a “racist country,” said that “Israel” is a dirty word, and claimed US foreign policy was responsible for the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Another anti-Israel activist, Arab-American Ali Abunimah, has claimed to know Obama well and to have met him on numerous occasions at pro-Palestinian events in Chicago.

    During his tenure as a junior air force commander McPeak spent time in Israel and participated in joint exercises with the Israeli air force. He acknowledged that he enjoyed his experiences here, “but that’s maybe the more cosmopolitan, liberal version of the Israeli population,” he added.

    Zionist Canard
    McPeak also charged Jews and Christian Zionists with dual-loyalties, and said that concern for Israel manipulated American foreign policy in Iraq.
    “Let’s say that if one of your abiding concerns is the security of Israel as opposed to a purely American self-interest, then it would make sense to build a dozen or so bases in Iraq,” he said.

  • mp

    No leather jacket…sorry!

  • basil9

    IDUNN,

    He’s from Austin, he caucused and was elected a state delegate. And IDUNN,

    He’s from Austin, he caucused and was elected a state delegate and his name is Terry. Yup. We could find out. TTTT he didn’t sound like such a bad guy (unlike the BO thugs) and it sounded like he was in it just to have a little harmless fun only he got dragged in over his head. I can just imagine poor Terry; he goes back to the caucus that evening and his neighbor, the head of the precinct or whatever you call it, nominates him to be a delegate and how can he say no without tipping them off he’s undercover? So the charade continues.
    Meanwhile Rush has an exploding cottage industry with his Operation Chaos merchandise and is encouraging Ohio voters NOT to be afraid of being indicted for voter fraud coz he (Rush) will take the rap for everyone and will broadcast his show from his jail cell. ROTF.
    Then he plays audio from the attorney who’s prosecuting the voter fraud, suppression and intimidation case and she sounded pretty d@mn serious! :-D.
    Rush ALSO touched on the fact that if HE and his listeners are indicted (which, of course, is exactly what Rush is praying for (His ratings will sky-rocket even more) that BO should be indicted, too. So I guess all that Democrat for A Day stuff we’ve been sending him sunk in..

  • Tiny Dancer

    LoL Idunn!

    I can’t find an mp3, so I’m going to link to a cheesey youtube slideshow. It’s from the Broadway show Avenue Q, which is kind of a Sesame Street for adults complete with puppets and people.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbwNSNLPIfw

    Ave Q is the best. I’m not sure why I didn’t think of it before.

  • Artiste

    1950Dem….somewhere near the top of this thread, Paddy4Hill wrote a VERY good treatise about the Dem Party. Now, and where the Clinton/Dean connections split.

    Well worth the read. She did a great job. IMO

  • true2party

    has anyone seen this crap?

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/hillary-clin-12.html

    it says that by way of Hillary MENTIONING Hoover, she’s alienating young voters. huh???

    i’m a young voter and I know exactly who Hoover was, and I know exactly what she was saying/implying. does this writer think that young voters don’t know who Hoover was? should Hillary go around listening to Nelly on her iPod and playing a gameboy or something to connect with young voters?

    this trash-Hillary-and-assume-everything’s-bad shit just never stops, does it?

  • Idunn

    Another anti-Israel activist, Arab-American Ali Abunimah, has claimed to know Obama well and to have met him on numerous occasions at pro-Palestinian events in Chicago.

    I believe it was Abunimah who said Obama would run for the postition of King Of The World, if there was such a position. (but I might be thinking of someone else who said that, so don’t quote me ).

  • lninla Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
    I’m hoping we did not spread the false Cantwell rumor too far and wide as the Obama trolls, even those commenting on TPM are constantly referencing us.

    I think there’s a balance, a fine line to walk. SOMEBODY will spread such things anyway. The Obamas are VERY well organized; I doubt if they need to get their national gossip from us. If we discuss such rumours here early, we can find out and share answers.

    Maybe the key is to discuss them AS RUMOURS, AS UNCONFIRMED. Keep arguing that XYZ has not been confirmed, has not appeared on the persons’ website, etc etc. Tell posters to challenge bots for cites when they try to spread such rumours. REPROACH them for spreading gossip without evidence, or for spreading soundbytes without context…. Tell them they need to learn to distinguish between myth and reality, talk and facts….

  • Artiste

    Laura Ingraham hosting O’Reilly

    starts off with BO

  • djia

    @ Artiste Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    dija…please!
    that would be your .44 cents! ;-D
    Ok….what did I do now LOL!!

    @1950dem 
    I am not sure why it was so hard for me to post, I wasn’t posting links at all just trying to say hello 😀

  • Idunn

    DAMN IT ALL TO SHIT!! Even Sesame Street doesn’t know the meaning of the word “racist”!! Now we’re gonna have a whole new pack of ankle biters coming up screaming, “That’s racist!” “She a racist!” “My hamburger tastes racist!”

    ARGGGGG!!!!!!

  • ABM90

    Sad Times in America: So much has been developed for our citizens to tap into and be informed about just about any subject.We now have been become a nation subjected ti lies,misinformation,cherry picking and editing our information processes.Seeing,Hearing,Reading,have been altered for special interests.It is called mind control.Shame on the MSM and all its many threads and tennacles.Clean out the whitehouse and bring in truth,trust,openess,and wisdom. GO Hillary.

    ” IT WILL TAKE THIS WOMAN TO FIX OUR VILLAGE ”

    By ABM90

  • Independent Ben

    true2party,

    I don’t think anybody here has given up on Hillary.

    I know I’m getting SICK of MSM covering that stupid Bosnia story. Hill made a mistake, she’s human, she admitted her mistake. Geezus!

  • debbie

    I know exactly when I decided BHO would never get my vote

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOVHf9HPEJM&eurl

    and should Hillary not prevail..I will have no problem voting for any independent
    (sorry can’t vote McCain, don’t like the republican platform), nor will I lose any sleep watching the Dem party go down the tubes.

  • Artiste

    LAURA doing Garlic noses!

  • Independent Ben

    Isn’t this campaign amazing. Hillary giving an interview to, of all people, Fox News. 🙂 Greta is a Hillary supporter, I think. Hillary should give an interview to O’Reilly too (I think he has a secret crush on her).

  • basil9

    Tiny Dancer,

    Hey! No muppet-bashing allowed! We are a politically correct ethnically mixed forum. 🙂
    Caroline,
    Well, you had to hear Rush’s delivery, especially the way he say O-Ba-MA in a baritone voice with reverb. It’s hysterical. And now he’s gotten complaints from Bo people that the WAY Rush says O=Ba-Ma is RACIST coz it conjures up street-thug images. And Rush is taking that to the bank, adding to his long list of banned BO subjects; His middle name (Hussein) the fact he’s a liberal, the tone of voice with which one utters the name O-Ba_Ma.
    But after you stop laughing you realize how truly scary this is! Censorship!

    Uh-OH! HAHAHAHAHA! Listening to Bill-O and the old ‘garlic-nose’comment” is up.

  • I know, I wish they would give half as much attention to Obama’s lies, half-truths and inconsistencies!

    politwix.com/kt = safehouse

  • djia

    OMG!!! on O’reilly just now, that new quote from rev wright about the government, is one i sent them late last night!!! 😀

  • rgb44hrc

    Donna Brazierre needs to pick one “job” and stick to it.

    1. She’s trying to be an allegedly “impartial” committee-person in some capacity: help decide rules, booster party morale, bring in AA’s into the fold. But she’s doing a lousy job at it becuase of conflicts of interests (see items 2 and 3).

    2. She’s trying to be an “impartial commentator” talking head, because of all her “expertise” (please note the election she helped Al Gore win in 2000). But she’s doing a lousy job of that because of item 3.

    3. She’s an Obama supporter, working very diligently to craft the rules and massage the conversation in MSM to help him at every step. So far, that’s worked pretty well. But if her cover gets blown, there goes job numbers 1 and 2.

    You shouldn’t be working at cross purposes, and lying to your “employers”. The DNC donations that help pay for whatever shit she does is coming from regular party stiffs, who don’t necessarily appreciate where she’s dragging us down to.

  • Tiny Dancer

    LoL, no Basil I LOVE the Muppets! They practically raised me! But they’d be MUCH better than the MSNBC crew, seriously!

  • Garlic-noses, put your hands over your ears!

  • Idunn

    LAURA doing Garlic noses

    Bet that’s a sentence you never thought you’d string together, eh?

  • Artiste

    OMG!

    the Press and the REpus and to some extent, the Clinton Campaign are enjoying seeing this (Wright) stuff come up BECAUSE IT MAKES BARACK OBAMA MORTAL!

    Obama spokesperson on FOX

  • Artiste

    Idunn…Laughing out loud at that!

  • Independent Ben

    # djia Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    OMG!!! on O’reilly just now, that new quote from rev wright about the government, is one i sent them late last night!!! 😀

    Cool!

  • Tiny Dancer

    I’m watching Fox… Laura Ingrahm is so much more tolerable than O’Reilly.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Her jacket is very bright though.

  • “Makes Barack Obama Mortal”????

    Uh, I thought that was God that did that…

  • Idunn

    Hope somebody makes us a garlic nose, T-shirt. That’s the funniest shit I ever heard.

    (no offense intended, garlic noses)

  • true2party

    when i decided to not vote for Obama and to absolutely vote/support/donate for Hillary is when I learned through research that Hillary is a hard worker and knows so much more than Obama.

    Just 2 years ago, he was stumbling over his words, looking scared on the Senate floor and in committees (if he was even there), not knowing how to talk to the witnesses, not even knowing what they were talking about.

    on the other hand, Hillary had done her homework, grilled witnesses, worked hard, lead committees when she wasn’t even supposed to…..can you say PREPARED? i can…..Hillary’s prepared.

  • Tiny Dancer

    I have an “Everyone Loves an Italian Girl” shirt I kind of want to modify to “Every Loves a Garlic Nosed Girl”

  • Artiste

    djia…great job!

    OK gang

    going Shuttle hunting

    Back at 8:40

  • debbie

    better garlic nose than garlic breath

  • Independent Ben

    This morning, Joe Scarborough started out his show playing the clip of Hillary finally answering the “pastor” question. When it was done, he clapped his hands together and said “Yessss! The toughest woman in politics!” Then later, he played the clip of Chelsea slapping down that guy who asked the Monica question. He liked that two and confessed, “I just have a weakness for Clinton women.” LOL

    What do y’all think? Should Hillary put him in the campaign?

  • mj

    Um, ok, the new Yahoo headline “Is Clinton the Tanya Harding of politics”. WTF? My husband noticed months ago the anti-Hillary bias of Yahoo.

    Please, folks, stop saying if BO is the nominee…That’s just what the MSM wants you thinking. Hill will be the nominee.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Wasn’t Scarborough one of the worst Clinton haters a couple of months ago? Or he was at least humping Obama’s leg. Or was that just his MSNBC marching orders?

  • dot48

    Yahoo is so up Obama’s ass. The always do negative headlines on anything Hillary. I go rate the stories to try to keep the negative stuff off front page…I also rate Mccain stuff to keep it up.

  • Ha 66% of Dems want race to go on, 22% wants Hillary to drop, 22% wants Obama to drop out!

  • filbertsf

    mj, I noticed it, too. So much so that I changed my homepage to HillaryClinton.com. I didn’t want negative news about Hillary to be the first thing I read when I turned on the computer.

    For the longest time, it was yahoo.

  • Idunn

    Ha 66% of Dems want race to go on

    That’s right, DNC…saddle up bitches!

  • Independent Ben

    Tiny Dancer,

    He’s gone back and forth, but I think he’s always been pretty neutral, since he’s a repug. His opinion of her has changed through the course of this campaign. He said that a few days ago when he had Tucker Carlson as a guest, and Tucker agreed with him as well. 🙂

  • mj

    Hillbilly, where did you read that?

    Indie, thanks for the write up.

    Tiny, no, Joe has never been an Obama boy, always decent to Hill.

  • basil9

    STILL Laughing!
    Flicked past Ogremann looking for Idol and heard he was not as spiteful as usual and so listened in.
    Properly chastend he was, discussing the poll that shows if HRC were the nominee 19% of BO’s voters would stay home but if BO were the nominee 28% of HRC’s supporters would vote McCain!
    Not even HE can spin that one, although he did cite another poll that said since January McCain has gone down in electability, HRC has gone down slightly and BO’s perceived electability only went down 7 POINTS!!!!!!
    Loooooove to see Keithy squirming. He almost looked like he was gonna cry for his BO-blankey.

    BTW – guess HRC is on Hannity and not Bill-O.

  • moononpluto

    Ok we should all lay bets now, on who Obama and Wright are going to piss off next, i think they have covered most groups bteween the 2 of them.

  • HillaryforTexas

    “My hamburger tastes racist!”

    LMTWAO! Idunn, you made me choke on my Chinese food! (I am sick too, so we ordered out for dinner – I am NOT cooking feeling like crap!)

  • filbertsf

    TinyDancer, as I understand it, he was a Rep at the time of the Clinton impeachment.

    He’s still a Repug, but a fair guy. Moreso as a result of Olbermann’s popularity on MSNBC.

    When it comes to HRC, Scarborough is a hit and miss.

    Then again, I haven’t really watched Morning Joe since early January.

  • Independent Ben

    @basil9 – Hillary’s interview is on Greta’s show tonite at 10:00 pm

  • Tiny Dancer

    Wasn’t Scarborough the one who’s BlackBerry was blowin’ up everytime Obama made a speech? I’m getting everyonce confused nowadays.

  • Are you talking about the 66%? It was just reported on Fox TV

  • HillaryforTexas

    Joe is a Republican, and makes an effort to be fair most of the time. Not perfectly, but much better than the rest. You can tell that he at least RESPECTS her. He is critical at times, but not usually nasty.

  • Idunn

    T4H, I can always count on you not to let the really good ones pass. 😉

  • From h t t p ://www.mrsuper.org/

    This is a great site!!! By an anonymous Super, answering questions in a very clear, level headed way. Sounds very experienced. 🙂

    Sample entry:

    March 20, 2008
    There Are No Undecided Super Delegates

    Or at least, there are very few of them. The majority of undeclared Supers are just that – undeclared. It doesn’t mean they don’t have a clear preference. Keep that in mind when people are talking about the need for the candidates to lobby or not lobby the Supers more often. Because the truth is, it’s really not that necessary.

  • djia

    OOOOps i went to check what i emailed and I guess it wasn’t my comment i sent them after all

    but i am so happy they did air what they did!!! bambi has got to be feeling a bit crisp by now LOL

  • Idunn

    LMTWAO

    OMG….I’m totally LMMBAO!!! I just figured out what you meant!!!

  • filbertsf

    Ben, that’s EST? So 7PM for us West Coast folks.

    I never watch Fox, but I’ll make an exception for Madame President.

  • Idunn

    Wish I was Italian now, so I could LMGNAO!

  • Tiny Dancer

    LMTWAO

    OMG….I’m totally LMMBAO!!! I just figured out what you meant!!!

    So am I LMGNAO?

  • Tiny Dancer

    LoL Idunn.

  • Independent Ben

    Tiny Dancer

    Not really. After Obama’s “race” speech, his approach was: “OK, Obama gave a nice speech…. BUT” And then he went on to describe what the speech didn’t answer, and BHO’s continued electability problems.

  • basil9

    Tiny Dancer,

    Is it yellow?

    Idunn, how about bumble-bee yellow ‘I’m a garlic nose t-shirts?’

    BTW, FWIW you sound as completely off the wall when you’re NOT sick as you do when you alledgedly are. *LOL*

    Artiste – are you spacegirl?

  • Idunn

    Ya’ll (yeah, you heard right, Filbert!) are too funny tonight!

    I gotta take my mudblood ass to bed though, before I pass out.

    Night, stereotypes. 🙂

  • Idunn, what does the second M in LMMBAO stand for? (in my case it would be Massive)

  • Paula

    Joe Scarborough think superdelegates may try to make a move which is probably why Carville made the Judas comment last week.

    Could someone explain what this means?

  • Tiny Dancer

    Ben, it was before that, like way before that. Maybe even Super Tuesday night. One of the MSNBC guys was on saying that everytime Obama gave one of this soaring speeches his Blackberry (and he held up his BB) went off, even from the Republicans. I swear it was Scarborough. Or maybe it was during my DU days and they were just inflating stuff.

    I do remember him really getting on Michelle Obama over her “for the first time im my adult life” comment. So much so that you could tell he was getting orders in his earpiece to tone it down and he kept ignoring it. It must be hard to be a repub at MSNBC right now.

  • Idunn

    mud blood 😉

    Cause I’m all an unholy mix and what not.

  • basil9

    mj,

    So what if the Media thinks WE think their sh!t don’t smell.

    It’s good for us to throw ’em off the scent.

    djia,

    good job with the wright comment!

  • Independent Ben

    filbertsf,

    Yes, Greta’s show is 10:00 pm est

  • dot48

    Hannity schedule not showing Hillary .. Greta schedule is .. I could have swore that they said today that Hillary would be on Hannity…

  • Ah, got cha. goodnight Idunn, hope you feel better tomorrow.

  • filbertsf

    Idunn Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
    mud blood

    Cause I’m all an unholy mix and what not.

    Unholy my ass. You ripped that from J.K. Rowling. I thought you were Tolkensian.

  • basil9

    mj, meant to add if you check the Tapper article on Political Punch you’ll see he’s mocking the whole comparison and even ends with, “if HRC is Harding and BO is kerrigan guess that means McCain is Oxana Baiul.’

    LMAO!

    Someone posted way upthread the ORIGINAL HARDING comment from a 2007 speech and I sent that to ABC and Tapper for reference. (of course, the original journalist also works for ABC but guess there’s no inter-department communication.)

  • Paula

    BTW, that NBC poll just shows Hillary and Obama tied. They do say it busts the myth his campaign is in trouble, but we all know the Wright thing is going to hurt him in the GE more than the primary. That’s where the damage will be worst.

    http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_nbcwall_street_journal_na.php

  • admin

    We got this via email and thought we would share (thanks ABC person):

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/30/richardson-urges-obama-and-edwards-to-end-negative-campaigning/

    New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson called on his fellow White House hopefuls Tuesday to cease “negative campaigning” right before he filed for the New Hampshire primary.

    “You see how some of the candidates in our own party are starting to get negative,” Richardson said. “We’re not going to do it. We’re going to talk about the issues.”

    “To all the Democratic candidates, let’s stay positive,” Richardson said. “Let’s get rid of all this negative stuff that I’m seeing.”

    Richardson then singled out Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and former Sen. John Edwards, D-North Carolina, for their critical remarks of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York.

    “I’ve become very concerned about the negative tone of the campaign,” he said. “I think that Senators Obama and Edwards should concentrate on the issues and not on attacking Sen. Clinton.”

    “The differences on the issues should be highlighted, but personal attacks I believe should not take place,” he said.

    In recent days, Obama and Edwards have spoken out against Clinton’s decision to accept contributions from lobbyists. Richardson defended Clinton and reiterated that calling her “integrity into question,” was unnecessary and “personally negative.”

    “There’s going to be plenty of time to get negative with the Republicans but now is not the time to start food fights,” Richardson said.

  • Independent Ben

    Tiny Dancer

    Yeah, I guess the only ones at MSNBC who are fair to Hillary would be Scarborough and Pat Buchanan. I will watch Dan Abrams as well because he is at least fair. I think he’s a closet Hillary supporter.
    Last night Abrams defended Hillary on the Bosnia issue, stating “Is this really important?” and “How can any of you state for sure that her exaggeration was intentional?” Abrams also defends Hillary when everyone is pressuring her to drop out (like now).

  • basil9

    rgbhrc44,

    When i called the DNC today to register my Brillo-head complaint I tried to find out what the f*** it is that Brillo-head actually does and Ms. Mallory was unable to explain other than to say when she appears on TV she’s an independent, not representing the dem party, and can say whatever she wants.

    HUHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

    Exactly what ARE brazarro’s official DNC titles?

  • Tiny Dancer

    Basil – It’s a reddish color and it has little pizzas and hearts on it. I got it from Urban Outfitters. It’s too cute.

    Like this but red and with pizzas where the shamrocks are. Same company though. I might wear it tomorrow.

    http://www.irishteeshirt.com/ftid_326/everyone_loves_an_irish_girl.jpg

  • lninla

    I don’t know how the superdelegates are supposed to be these wise-beings able to transcend their own personal political preference.

    We all know at this point, people are dug in, can’t think rationally – superDs are like jurors who’ve been watching and reading everything and forming their preference before the trial even starts. How fair is that?

    Can’t they just create a non-biased group of Puerto Ricans as Superdelegates – these are people who chose a primary over caucusing because they realized it former is more democratic; they have their heads on their shoulders.

  • DemHawk

    Just a warning, toe-sucker Dick Morris will be coming up in the O’Reilly Factor.

  • rgb44hrc

    Let me guess, the poll that shows Hillary and Obama tied is going to be headlined as either:

    a) Obama on steady path to nomination
    b) Clinton campaign imploding

  • admin

    More from our email lurkers (Nick):

    Anne Lewis vs. Mike Allen and a great question typed in at the end:

  • basil9

    Ben,

    I thought she was doing 2 interviews?

    i caught the Scarface stuff this morning. he actually CONFESSED he may be in love with HRC. hahahaha! Mike didn’t look too happy. Yup. Scarface sure has changed his tune the past few weeks. it was the Wright stuff (Right Stuff) that pushed him over the edge and now he says the Wright stuff hurt Bo so much with white men he can’t recover and isn’t electable.

    Not that Scarface knows anything but it’s such a relief to hear ANYONE on BM saying ANYTHING even remotely critical of BO. Isn’t that PATHETIC!!!!!!

  • Artiste

    WOW

    DIRECTLY OVERHEAD at 8:28!!!!! With a LONG view from the time it appeared!

    Double Sonic Booms (nose and vert stabilizer) 8:33

    ONLY reason to live in Florida!

  • Independent Ben

    omg, why does Fox continue to have Moose Face Dick Morris on?

  • OandrewD

    All my websites are in the Obama camp. Huffingtonpost I used to love – not any more and now Yahoo which I still use a lot. I don’t watch Cnn or MSNBC I can’t stomach the sunday morning shows and daily kos has become daily Hate. Hillaryis44 is my only salvation (and Taylor Marsh).

  • dot48

    donna Brazil is a Member of the Rules Committee. Don’t let the DNC try to act like they don’t know WHO that byotch is.

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/25/dnc-sanctions-sunshine-state/

  • Tiny Dancer

    The lurkers should join in! We don’t bite (well, maybe Idunn does…). But thanks! And thanks to admin for sharing. I saw that Ann Lewis video somewhere else. They pretty much admit bias in it. Nioce.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Arty (I really want to call you Space…lol). I used to want to be an Astronaut when I was little. Then the Challenger exploded and I decided I wanted to be a dinosaur instead. Not sure how I planned on achieving that goal.

  • Independent Ben

    Well, one thing is comforting: Dick Morris’ predictions about Hillary are usually 100% wrong

  • djia

    LOL………..Ingram sure shook Dickie morris’s tree!!

  • Paula

    You need to read TM’s latest post on how Wright is hurting ALL Dems, and why Hillary is doing what she is right now.

    This diary is sobering, too:

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/163651/860

  • dot48

    what’s asshole predicting now? Watching Moment of Truth LOL

  • Independent Ben

    The Obama camp is sweating PA big time. They did the same dog and pony show prior to Ohio and Texas – trying to get Hillary to drop out.

    I’m sure the fact that over 4 million democrats are registered for the PA primary scares them as well. If Hillary can thump him good there, say 60-40, she can take a big chunk out of his popular vote lead.

  • djia

    hey is it just me ? but dick morris reminds me of some actor i’ve seen somewhere before…….I can’t stand his voice OMG
    it’s like cat claws on a black board !!!

  • Artiste

    TD…if I knew then what I know now…space would have been for me too. My dad was an engineer for Lockheed. I use to go to C-130 christenings for fun! LOL And he was very instrumental in what is NOW the wing of the C-5B

    the original C5A was designed, in part, in London. I lived there then.

    As for Space, that is fine…i just dont want the whole handle out there

  • Tiny Dancer

    I knew Wright would end up hurting the Dem party as a whole eventually. Rush Limbaugh has been using the Rev. to paint all Dems with a really broad anti-American brush.

  • rgb44hrc

    Basil9, who wonders what Donna Brazierre’s official title is… From he own web site, http://www.brazileassociates.com, we learn that of all things, she is the Chair of the DNC ***VOTING RIGHTS INSTITUTE***. Is this the part that helps disenfranchise Florida voters, or disenfranchise Michigan voter????

    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me, RIGHT???

    &&&&&&
    From her web own site:

    Donna Brazile is Founder and Managing Director of Brazile and Associates, LLC. Brazile, Chair of the Democratic National Committee’s Voting Rights Institute (VRI) and an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University, is a senior political strategist and former Campaign Manager for Gore-Lieberman 2000 – the first African American to lead a major presidential campaign.

    Prior to joining the Gore campaign, Brazile was Chief of Staff and Press Secretary to Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton of the District of Columbia where she helped guide the District’s budget and local legislation on Capitol Hill.

    Brazile is a weekly contributor and political commentator on CNN’s Inside Politics and American Morning. In addition, she is a columnist for Roll Call Newspaper and a contributing writer for Ms. Magazine.

  • djia

    Ind.Ben

    I am sure he is sweating, his crowd today was nearly all AA and Hillary’s was mainly white with some AA

    I am possitive the polls after PA will show the same as MO

  • Independent Ben

    dot48

    He just says, “this is over.” He’s been saying that for a week or so. I think he actually has some role in the Obama campaign now. Morris says that the only reason Hillary is staying in is to cause Obama to lose, so she can run in 2012. I think he’s the most disgusting human being on the planet. Everytime I see him on TV, I want to punch his fat face through the screen

  • terrondt

    hillfans, ever notice when call girl havin dick morris talks he talks out of one side of his mouth? what a retard!!!LOL.

  • Independent Ben

    Here he goes, saying Hillary fabricated story about Chelsea on 9/11. This was debunked a long time ago, yet he continues to repeat it. The issue is addressed right now on Media Matters.

  • Artiste

    rgb..want to be even MORE amazed about DB?

    Go here and read this http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/03/dnc_voting_righ_2.php

    especially the pdf of the entire testimony

  • djia

    @Ind Ben

    We should all email O’rielly factor and others about Dick morris and Media Matters debunking and ask them to bring on dickie
    and have him discuss the debunking LOL

  • Independent Ben

    djia

    They are both in NC today, which is my home state. Hillary will be in Winston-Salem tomorrow, which is just 35 miles from where I live.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Dick Morris should have to be labeled “Clinton Hater” when he appears on TV. Like Carville has to be qualified as a “Clinton Supporter”.

  • lninla

    indie Ben – I could swear I read something about Dick Morris and Obama working together on some sort of Africa project.

  • rgb44hrc

    every Obama cockroach apologizer / hack / Hillary-assassin need to be brought out into the bright light, and have their lies exposed, and have their credibility obliterated.

    Axelrod: Dead man.
    Greg Craig: Dead man.
    Donna Brazierre: Dead.
    ….. I can see this is going to be an extremely long list, but please, a couple more…
    Keith “I used to watch your show until you became an Obama-shill” Olbermann…dead.
    Howard Dean Wormer: dead

  • Independent Ben

    djia

    I’m going to e-mail O’Reilly the info on this. I’m sick of his fat lying mouth. The Media Matters article has the exact quotes from Hillary when she appeared on Dateline NBC a few days after 9/11.

  • djia

    Ind Ben;

    I will email it as well 😀

  • Independent Ben

    djia,

    But whatever you do, don’t say to O’Reilly that the info is from Media Matters. O’Reilly hates Media Matters since they call him out on some of his garbage

  • lninla

    at this point, Tiny Dancer – all media should probably wear candidate affiliation badges.

    Here’s a cute cartoon for ya:

    davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/20/mea-culpa-3/

  • filbertsf

    Why does Dick Morris hate Hillary so much? Did she take his parking space or something? He’s made a career out of being anti-Clinton.

  • basil9

    artiste (spacegirl????)

    Are you STILL on the Ingraham ‘doing garlic noses” thing?

    “Double Sonic Booms (nose and vert stabilizer) 8:33”

    😀

  • HillaryforTexas

    Morris went to Kenya as a paid consultant for Obama’s bloodthirsty cousin, Odinga. The radical who lost the recent election, and has been causing all the unrest over there protesting and burning villages and stuff.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Morris had to resign from the Clinton administration because he got involved with a hooker. He even let the gal listen in on converstaions he was having with Pres. Clinton. NICE. I guess he’s still holding a grudge.

  • Independent Ben

    Here is the link to the Media Matters story on Morris, in case anybody else wants to send to O’Reilly. Again, I would stress that Media Matters not be mentioned

    mediamatters.org/items/200803250010?f=h_latest

  • dot48

    Hillary told Dick Morris his weeny was teeny. She caught him naked in their swimming pool.

  • rgb44hrc

    Artiste, thanks for the link. It turned up this beauty:

    &&&&&&&&
    In her testimony, Brazile pointed out that, “The rise in voter harassment and voter intimidation is a direct result of some political operatives – often with the blessing of their political leaders trying to gain an electoral advantage at the ballot box. This practice of discouraging people from voting, from schemes that misinform or challenge the electoral status of eligible citizens to participate, should be outlawed in this nation.”
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    But it’s okay for your candidate to (as they’ve accused HRC) “say/do whatever it takes to win”?? Where’s your outrage now, Ms. Chairperson of DNC Voting Rights Institute?

  • djia

    ok, that’s done!

    this is what i sent them 😀

    You should have Dick Morris back on the show and ask him why he is still spewing

    BS about Chelsea Clinton and Hillary Clinton even after it was debunked by media matters

    I as a viewer would really love to hear his [excuse] reasons for his pursuance to spreading lies.

    mediamatters.org/items/200803250010?f=h_latest

  • Tiny Dancer

    LMGNAO
    in his 1997 book Behind the Oval Office, Morris wrote that, following an argument in the Arkansas Governor’s Mansion, he strode toward the exit and was tackled by Clinton. In 2003, Morris further stated that Clinton cocked his arm back to throw a punch, but Hillary Clinton pulled her husband off Morris. In both versions of the story, she consoled Morris and apologized to him, stating that Bill only behaved such with those he cared for most.

    Oh Hillary, you should have let Bill clock him.

  • basil9

    Dot, RJB, So doesn’t that mean there is a certain non-biased objective standard she is required to follow as an official rep of at least on branch of the DNC?

    I don’t get it! How is she allowed to get away with this??????

    ‘Chair of the Democratic National Committee’s Voting Rights Institute (VRI)’

  • djia

    # Independent Ben Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Here is the link to the Media Matters story on Morris, in case anybody else wants to send to O’Reilly. Again, I would stress that Media Matters not be mentioned

    mediamatters.org/items/200803250010?f=h_latest

    Oh Sure NOW you tell me!!! 🙁

  • rgb44hrc

    Ah, maybe “Dick” Morris has it in for the Clintons because he was caught / disgraced with a “paid professional”, whereas Bill was able to convince the intern into a consensual freebie?

    Bill always damn persuasive.

  • moononpluto

    loving this Hillary aint taking anymore lying shit from Obama Bin Lyin.

    Hilarious

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6752

    She’s decided to belt him over the head with his lying head on. Go Hillary

    Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama’s Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements

    Once again, the Obama campaign is getting caught saying one thing while doing another. They are personally attacking Hillary even though Sen. Obama has been found mispeaking and embellishing facts about himself more than ten times in recent months. Senator Obama’s campaign is based on words –not a record of deeds – and if those words aren’t backed up by facts, there’s not much else left.

    “Senator Obama has called himself a constitutional professor, claimed credit for passing legislation that never left committee, and apparently inflated his role as a community organizer among other issues. When it comes to his record, just words won’t do. Senator Obama will have to use facts as well,” Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.

  • djia

    Ok, sorry

    but why don’t you mention media matters?? ( i’m having a red head moment LOL)

  • HillaryforTexas

    LOL! Yeah, maybe Dickless Morriss is still pissed because he had to pay for some, and the Big Dawg NEVER had to pay. 😀

  • HillaryforTexas

    djia, BillO considers media matters a left wing nut site. So best not to mention this is where the info came from.

  • rgb44hrc

    Basil, yes, I believe we have a direct conflict of interest with Brazile. The “overwhelming evidence” needs to be gathered and presented to the party heads, if there are any left not under Obama’s spell/influence. Like the video montage the Repubs put together of Obama’s Worst Hits (Wright, Rezko, Wright, flag pin, Michelle Obama, etc.).

    As chairperson, has she investigated the flagrant abuses in caucuses? Does she only care when AA voters are disenfranchised, but not whites, asians, latinos???? Answer, woman.

  • filbertsf

    I’m really nervous about the TX Convention this Saturday. No. I don’t have any inside knowledge. It was such a mess on March 4th. Obama thugs were employing intimidation, misstatements, lies and all sorts of sneaky tactics. On top of it all, how do you get/convince people who experienced the chaos and intimidation to come back and experience it all over again.

    Wish us luck in TX.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Good luck filbert! I have to do the convention thing the week after in WA. I didn’t particularly enjoy caucusing the first time around, I’m not looking forward to doing it again.

  • djia

    H4T

    Thanks for letting me know

  • filbertsf

    Thanks TD. If you guys need help in WA, let me know.

  • Artiste

    TD…and all

    this off the HC.com blogs.

    VERY IMPORTANT – NEW PROCEDURE FOR WV DELEGATE SELECTION!

    Hello,

    I was reading the Herald-Dispatch this morning. I was very disturbed to read about the new procedure in selecting our delegates that will attend the national conference in August. It states that the Democrat Executive Committee in EVERY county must have a convention to select the delegates from each of the counties. It didn’t say what the deadline is for the county conventions. The state convention will be held on June 13-14 in Charleston, where the county delegates will select the state delegates that will be attending the national convention in Denver. We must get the word out about this. Contact your local Democrat Executive Committee to inquire about the date of your conventions. We no longer have the delegates to vote for at our primary. We have to attend these events, so we can get Hillary as many delegates as possible!

    Thanks!

    by MissyD77 at 3/25/2008 11:25:35 PM

  • basil9

    rgb,

    i’d love to get a written record of her ‘job description, duties and responsibilities’ in her capacity as DNC chairperson. How can we get that info? Any ideas?

    H4TY,

    If (and we know he MUST be) he’s dickless he probably don’t want any. *LOL*

  • basil9

    Tiny Dancer, Filbert, all,

    UGH!!!!!! Caucusing sounds horribly similar to the few times I was FORCED to do LUNCH DUTY with 500+ screaming shrieking cabin-fevered kids!

    You have my deepest sympathies.

  • Independent Ben

    Argh,

    On Dan Abrams show it was mentioned that Hillary exaggerated her role in SCHIP. Geez, they really are just using all of Obama’s talking points. Anyway, here’s a link to factcheck.org which supports Hillary’s involvement in SCHIP (sigh).

  • wbboei

    debbie Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
    every house member that endorses Hillary, will get any piece of legislation they try tp pass thrown in the trash by Pelosi.
    ——————————————————————-
    debbie . . . . . you dont really believe that do you? If so then why did her trusted lieutenant, her choice for House Majority leader, Murtha endorse HRC? Do you think he is worried about his legislation being thrown in the trash. I do agree she is a partisan in her sentiments but she can get in trouble if she does that given the role she is in.

  • MerrimackValley

    admin Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    We got this via email and thought we would share (thanks ABC person):

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/30/richardson-urges-obama-and-edwards-to-end-negative-campaigning/

    New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson called on his fellow White House hopefuls Tuesday to cease “negative campaigning” right before he filed for the New Hampshire primary.

    “You see how some of the candidates in our own party are starting to get negative,” Richardson said. “We’re not going to do it. We’re going to talk about the issues.”

    It would be fun to string together a bunch of Richardson videos that were positives for Hillary and put them on YouTube. Anyone out there with the talent?

    One question I’d like Obama to answer should there happen to be reporters lurking here: when is the last time you brought your kids to see your grandmother in Hawaii? An Easter vacation would have been the perfect time, no?

  • basil9

    Arty, rjb,

    I’ve read that so-called ‘testimony” as well as her explanation for why Florida and Michigan were penalized. Total BS. i know I saved it SOMEWHERE.

  • Artiste

    this was in an email to me from Donna Brazille;

    “Guess what? I do not work for the DNC. Please call them at (202) 863-8000
    and find out what is going on. I work four jobs — yep. Four jobs and not
    paid by the Democrats.”

  • mj

    Ok, wait, the Fox poll,was that an internet poll or a real poll? Also, this:
    66% want primary to go on, 22% want Clinton to drop out, 22% want Obama to drop out…

    Doesn’t add up, HillBilly.

  • dot48

    she’s as good as Ali with the bob and weave and rope a dope.

  • Artiste

    Donna’s own words to me in a series of emails (I strung them together, no edits) more to follow

    The rules stipulate we are independent and not have to go a certain way. Besides, I am an at-large super. Secondly, we have given Florida officials months to come up with a plan. Find. They defied the rules on timing. We penalized them. They sued. We won. Now what? We can’t vote on seating people who are not even attempting to play by the rules. Our rules are crystal clear. Timing, equal representation, proportional, etc. It’s a tough call, but if you go back and look what we were up against, we had no choice. Just wished more citizens got involved before the process and not afterwards. I am not blaming this on the populace, but what the heck you want me to do? I am not running your local party. In 2004, I confronted my party here in DC when the city council moved our date.

    Come on leadership starts where you are.

    And lastly, let’s not smear. The last thing the Clintons need is “guilt by association.”

    I am sick and tired of the boneheads running her campaign. She’s much better than the jerks who believe it is simply about them.

    If you have more time, email them.

  • basil9

    Hahahahaha!

    brazille’s book called “Cooking with grease.”

    Is there a theme here?

    How about campaigning with grease?

  • lninla

    BO’s tactics are so predictable with his distraction techniques – get the media to “vet” Clinton, Bosnia and SCHIP, so they’re too busy to vet him.

    Didn’t Bush call BO – just “smoke and mirrors” – if the Repubs can see this, WTF is wrong with Dems?

  • filbertsf

    basil, TD and T4H has it much worse.

    I’ll just be an observer to make sure chaos doesn’t break out or that the Obama thugs don’t intimidate, lie or violate Convention rules.. I suspect this Convention will go somewhat smoother than Mar 4th b/c… well b/c who the hell is masochistic enough to want to do it all over again unless they’ve got the procedures down pat.

  • basil9

    Arety, i wanna call you spacegirl. Why’d you change? 🙁

    Thanks for the emails. I do have an idea for a letter but i wanna cover all the bases.

  • Artiste

    more DB

    Not piling on and since I get no credit for two straight years of being pro Clinton in the media, I believe you’re the one with bias, anger and worse disrespectful. Stay tuned, read my previous postings and if you’re friends with any Obama folks ask them to share my emails. Trust me, I don’t play dumb. I play to win and will help the nominee.
    With pleasure, respect and admiration for your time and commitment to equality for us all. (and then:) The DNC did not quit you, ignore you. But you have to read my column. We
    need the locals to come up with a process and it’s up to all 48 states who
    abided by the rules to determine if they delegates chosen will get a seat at
    the table. Sorry, the time for the DNC to act has expired. Now, it’s up to
    voters in the other states who abided by the rules.Guess what? I do not work for the DNC. Please call them at (202) 863-8000
    and find out what is going on. I work four jobs — yep. Four jobs and not
    paid by the Democrats. So, please allow me time to earn a salary. Since
    Katrina, I am supporting loads of my people. So, I am getting worried that
    my work will not get done. Hillary and Obama do not feed my family I do

    Positive please. Since Katrina, I work four jobs and I like reading good news. Trust me, the world is full of hate.

  • Artiste

    Basil…SA juveniles cutting and pasting were screwing up my Google search engines ( I pay for promo through Google ) and if some one is looking for me by that name they get all this crap from the teeny boppers there

  • tcbequalityactions

    What time is Hillary’s interview on here on the West coast?

  • Tiny Dancer

    Thanks filbert! I might take you up on that. I haven’t heard a thing about the convention as of yet. I just have the little card they had me fill out and have done the rest of the research on my own. Caucuses suck arse. I’m going to bring my camera and my phone that can record video and my blackberry. I’ll keep everyone updated. (damn, that’s a lot of electronics)

  • confloyd

    This is the first time I really looked at Dick Morris, he certainly looks slimey. What’s with lip movement, UUG! He also uses hand gestures with the lip movement. He also has long fingernails. Yah know with a little makeup he’d look like Ghoul!!!

  • djia

    what is “SA” ?

  • Artiste

    Dot are you here?

  • wbboei

    filbertsf Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
    I’m really nervous about the TX Convention this Saturday. No. I don’t have any inside knowledge. It was such a mess on March 4th. Obama thugs were employing intimidation, misstatements, lies and all sorts of sneaky tactics. On top of it all, how do you get/convince people who experienced the chaos and intimidation to come back and experience it all over again.

    Wish us luck in TX
    ——————————————————————-
    Cameras, tape recorders and quite possibly mace are indicated. I spoke to my Texas regional director a moment ago and like you she is gearing up for this weekend. I will be making calls to Texas delegates tomorrow. I have been torn between going to Pennsylvania and North Carolina. I have now determined that Pennsylvanis is the priority. And then I have the delegate stuff here in Washington. Full dance card. Best of luck to you this weekend.

  • djia

    @confloyd

    LOL!! I didn’t notice the long finger nails…..but that certainly goes with my comment up thread about his voice being like “cat claws on a chalk board”

  • Artiste

    djia Something Awful….

  • basil9

    Arts, all,”Going to bed now. Hold the fort.

    😀

  • Artiste

    confloyd…FUNNY STUFF about DICK

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    Hey guys how are you all doing, what’s new for Hillary that’s good?

  • Artiste

    k basil…sweet dreams! But you will miss Hillary on Greta!

  • rgb44hrc

    Artiste,

    Brazile’s own words are so dismissive of her having any responsibiltiy. “You little people get your own local things in order”.

    Like she’s going to get away with pretending that she doesn’t have clout, although she a) testifies in front of committees on voting right b) is involved in DNC rules making c) commentating on national TV. What’s next, Oprah saying she’s just got a little ole tv show???

    and then here’s another fucking idiot saying “the rules are the rules”. As Levin wrote in the NYTimes, NH moved up their primary date from third spot in January to second. Dean flinched, wouldn’t punish them. Then MI/FL was like “if they can break the rules…”. So ENFORCEMENT of the rules is selective.

    Nice touch, though, Artiste, getting Brazile to email you, and providing us all that juicy ammunition.

  • ABM90

    Why the MSM Pundits and anchors have sour dispositions.

    BLITZER–Would like to wear a Napoleon Uniform .

    MATTHEWS-Restless Legs Syndrome

    CAFFERTY-Sour stomach and Aging Process

    MIKA B. Reverse Menopause Hopeful

    JOE – Mika Taking Over all Discussions

    DICK MORRIS-Not Enough Toes in his contract

    BILL O.-Illusions of Grandure.

    HANNITY-Over Inflated Gall Bladder.

    TIM–Heartburn and Gout -Sallowed Too Many Corks

    TUCKER-Juvenile Pretender No one Listens to him

  • Artiste

    Hey mtDora…did you see/hear the Shuttle come in?

  • Artiste

    ooops…sorry MtD

    forgot about the hearing

    😳

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    wow, did you see http://www.taylormarsh.com – it states due to Wright, Obama will lose Missouri, and if Obama is the nominee he may lose California to McCain!

  • I know, that struck me as funny! Typical polls!

  • Artiste

    It’s funny as hell watching the neo-libs trying to defend Obama via Wright

  • JAS

    I was just watching Hannity, and I had this thought. We (Hillary 44 ) sent information out last week regarding Rev Wright, and what he said about the Jews and Hamas. We never heard anything about it, yet we heard about the Garlic Nose comment. I think FOX is holding off until or when FL. has it’s re-vote. FL. a large Jewish population and that would be devastating to Obama. Tell me if I am off track???

  • carbynew

    I love how Bob Beckel democratic stratigist is back peddling all over the Dr. Wright new comments and Hannity isn’t letting him get away with it. This is what they get for trying to crown Obambi King. What a tool, I’m so disappointed in our leadership…what a bunch of losers!

    LOVING FOXNEWS RIGHT NOW!

    I’m really loving how the Democratic leadership can’t fight the Dr. Wright issue. It won’t go away because OBAMA made Dr. Wright mentorship a cornerstone of his life and campaign.

    “chickens is coming to roast”

    Hillary 08

  • mj

    hillbilly, where did you get those numbers? They don’t add up. 66% want contest to continue, 22% hill drop out, 22% obama drop out. That equals 110%.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    artiste, did you change your name?

    I didnt know about the shuttle, opps but that’s okay, Im a typical white person I wouldnt know.

  • Artiste

    rgb…actually Brazile has been quite good at answering most folks emails. She is rather dismissive tho. I imagine she is tired of all this crap too.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    Senator Clinton goes On the Record tonight at 10:00 PM on FOX with Greta. Greta has been pretty fair to our candidate. Let’s all watch and blog our support for Hillary on Gretawire tonight.

  • Artiste

    yes MtDora!

    Does this dress make me look too fat?

  • basil9

    arty,

    no, i turn the tv around so i can see it from the bed.

    Thought she was supposed to do hannity, too.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Is Colmes sick or does he always look like Skeletor?

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    wow new inflammatory statements by reverend wright uncovered breaking news on FOX

  • Artiste

    JAS…there’s no tellin’ what is up Hannity’s sleeve

    and Wright is tanking Obama BADLY

  • CJ

    Hillary up next greta..more statments let him keep it up..he is mr obama wrong

  • basil9

    YAYAYAAAYYYYY.

    MORE controversial comments from Reverend Wright on gretta.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    check this out and forward this to your friends or family in NC:
    GO TO : http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/03/25/211300

    CLICK ON “FIND OR PLAN AN EVENT” BUTTON TO RSVP

    The Clinton campaign today announced new details about Hillary’s visit to North Carolina this Thursday, March 27, attending campaign events in Raleigh, Fayetteville, and Winston-Salem.

    All events are free and open to the public. No tickets are required.

    Hillary Clinton Delivers Economic Policy Address
    Wake Technical Community College
    9101 Fayetteville Road
    Raleigh, NC
    Doors Open: 9:00 a.m. EDT
    Event Begins: 10:30 a.m. EDT

    Hillary Clinton Attends a “Solutions for America” Event
    Terry Sanford High School Gymnasium
    2301 Fort Bragg Road
    Fayetteville, NC
    Doors Open: 12:00 p.m. EDT
    Event Begins: 1:30 p.m. EDT

    Hillary Clinton Attends a “Solutions for America” Event
    Forsyth Technical Community College Gymnasium
    1300 Bolton Street
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Doors Open: 4:00 p.m. EDT
    Event Begins: 5:30 p.m. EDT

  • Tiny Dancer

    Hillary looks really tired. Poor gal. She should have popped up in the VI with Obama. All “HELLO! Miss me?”

  • dot48

    Newsday .. reporting MANY more inflammatory comments to come. Greta reporting.

  • Artiste

    TD…he is the anti-Sean Sean+big powerful square-jawed Conservative

    Colmes – skinny, weak, freaky skeletor Liberal

  • filbertsf

    Thanks wbboei. Definitely bringing a camera and camcorder.

    Like you, I was torn btw PA and NC.

    Anywho… I’m going to Pittsburgh. I told the volunteer coordinator that I wanted to go to a big city. I wanted Philly, but she said Pittsburgh just opened and they need help there (well, all the offices would love to have as much help as possible). So Pittsburgh it is.

  • Artiste

    ooops + = = LOL

  • CJ

    he cant even talk right in front of those people obama..yes obama we are distracted with your disgusting mentor pastor…step out of the race now

  • wbboei

    moononpluto Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
    loving this Hillary aint taking anymore lying shit from Obama Bin Lyin.

    Hilarious

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6752

    ——————————————————————
    A phony resume just like Professor Henry Hill in the Music Man mentioned by Admin a week or so ago. Hardly surprising.

  • Artiste

    # Tiny Dancer Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Hillary looks really tired. Poor gal. She should have popped up in the VI with Obama. All “HELLO! Miss me?”

    ROFL! Good one!

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    artiste, nice change of name! what for though?

    also please you all Hill-Team, forward this to your friends/family

    CLICK ON “FIND OR PLAN AN EVENT” BUTTON TO RSVP

    The Clinton campaign today announced new details about Hillary’s visit to North Carolina this Thursday, March 27, attending campaign events in Raleigh, Fayetteville, and Winston-Salem.

    All events are free and open to the public. No tickets are required.

    Hillary Clinton Delivers Economic Policy Address
    Wake Technical Community College
    9101 Fayetteville Road
    Raleigh, NC
    Doors Open: 9:00 a.m. EDT
    Event Begins: 10:30 a.m. EDT

    Hillary Clinton Attends a “Solutions for America” Event
    Terry Sanford High School Gymnasium
    2301 Fort Bragg Road
    Fayetteville, NC
    Doors Open: 12:00 p.m. EDT
    Event Begins: 1:30 p.m. EDT

    Hillary Clinton Attends a “Solutions for America” Event
    Forsyth Technical Community College Gymnasium
    1300 Bolton Street
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Doors Open: 4:00 p.m. EDT
    Event Begins: 5:30 p.m. EDT

  • Artiste

    MtDora…thanks

    Scroll up to 9:46 post from me

  • Tiny Dancer

    Someone on Fox just quoted the WSJ/NBC poll saying Clinton was hurt more by the Bosnia remark than Obama was by Wright. But he has this awful smirk on his face.

    No one mentions that 25% of that poll was AA…

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    gotcha, artiste 😉

    On Fox they’re saying the Wright comments are hurting Hillary more then Obama? Huh?

    Im lost

  • Artiste

    ADMIN….the WJSNBC poll beings sited everywhere now

    thanks for the heads up

  • rgb44hrc

    If Hillary wins the nomination, we’ll have to thank some of her biggest supporters: Rev. Wright, and Mr. Rezko.

    Your support has been invaluable.

    They gave, and kept on giving…

  • filbertsf

    TD, how much you wanna bet that Fox fool is wrong? Does he really think middle America cares more about something as quaint as Bosnia versus a supposed man of God damning America?

  • dot48

    go vote at gretawire.com

  • Artiste

    MtDora…saying Bosnia gaffe hurting HC more than Wright hurting BO

    and citing a poll from WSJNBC

    ADMIN did a great post farther up the thread letting us know details of that poll that are being omitted by pundits…in short…poll was skewed because in order to get a “good” sample of BO support, more AA’s were polled…

    so, it’s effectively an AA poll of Obama’s damage from Wright

  • Tiny Dancer

    Yeah, thanks for the heads up admin! That poll has one goal – to make it look like Hillary is slipping. That’s why 177 of the 700 polled were AA. I bet they undersampled women. Oversample Obama’s demographics and undersample Hillary’s!

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    WJSNBC poll – what does it say?

    Im surprised how Obama is saying we’re feeding too much into the 30 minutes of Wright’s 20+ years of sermons! How about this HOW STUPID IS HE FOR SITTING IN THE PEWS TOLERATING ANY TYPE OF HATE SPEECH? I agree with the person who has psychology background, he’s having reaction formation

  • Clinton/Obama again? If Hillary thought it worthwhile, I’d respect her judgement. Maybe she could put Bill in charge of damage control and WORM.

  • Artiste

    I don’t want this to sound funny…but is it me, or all the Bambi surrogates REALLY SNIPPY with their responses?

  • birdgal

    Thank you for posting the total letter to Pelosi. I was on another site, and the thread title was:

    “Wealthy Clinton Donors Blackmailing Pelosi Over Superdelegates”

    I came back to this site, copied and pasted the entire letter on the other site. Already, a few people have thanked me for posting the entire letter. I am sick and tired of things being taken out of context, and parsed to fit someone’s worldview.

    Obviously, the letter was well-written, stated facts and concerns, and there was nothing inflammatory about it.

    Here is the infantile response from the Obama camp:

    Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton called the letter “inappropriate.”

    “This letter is inappropriate and we hope the Clinton campaign will reject the insinuation contained in it,” Burton said. “Regardless of the outcome of the nomination fight, Senator Obama will continue to urge his supporters to assist Speaker Pelosi in her efforts to maintain and build a working majority in the House of Representatives.”

    Thank you, to all of you for posting more reliable information.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Jonathan Martin could have at least ironed his shirt before going on. It looks like he just rolled out of bed.

    This guy with the mustache BUGS me. Who is he?

  • Artiste

    Birdgal…thanks for doing that

  • Artiste

    The mustached guys last argument was LAME

  • Artiste

    we will now here all the bots say “Yea…if she is sleep deprived, how can she answer the phone!”

    BARF. That is just a STUPID argument and he should have been slapped for it.

    :slap:

    there, I did it

  • Tiny Dancer

    NBC, which is clearly partisan for Obama, should not be allowed to sponsor a poll. WTF. They’re not going to have an objective poll. The only thing that would have been worse is if they had Zogby do the polling.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    HEY SHES ON NOW ON FOX

  • Tiny Dancer

    I know! I guess Obama is going to guarantee us that he’s going to get 8 hours of sleep EVERY night while he’s president.

  • admin

    BTW, our Tawana Brawley post is a “featured post” on Memeorandum:

    http://memeorandum.com/

  • rgb44hrc

    birdgal, where can I look up the unabridge version of the Pelosi letter? I looked further up on this site’s web page…

  • admin

    Birnbaum has a mustache which reminds us of Axelrod.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Greta is confused on a lot of things isn’t she?

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    doesnt Obama’s crowd look uhmm bored lately?

  • dot48

    she is amazing. brilliant

  • GaryinDCandLA

    My first post, but I wanted to share something. My partner attended the event at Constitution Hall in DC this evening to hear Hillary speak. I couldn’t be there but had encouraged him to go – it’s the first time he’s ever gone to any political event and he’s been contributing what $ he can to the campaign. Again, the first time he’s ever done that.

    He called me afterwards and was raving about what a wonderful, intelligent, and warm person she is. He even remarked there were moments that he got goose-bumps listening to her. The audience response was awesome and his most revealing comment was “it’s nothing like they show on TV. There you just see a lot of white people or a lot of black people in the pictures. But there were SO many people of all types there! Asians, Middle Eastern, Indian, young, old, just a whole cross-section! And they were all there just for Hillary.”

    I wish I could have been there.

  • dot48

    I wish Hillary would remind the media that she has been discussing the issues in speeches, etc now for months .. and say where you been?

  • dot48

    nobody else watching?

  • Tiny Dancer

    Worst part of watching Fox (aside from Rove and Dick Morris) – I get the Viva Viagra commercial stuck in my head for DAYS.

  • Ronald

    Im watching… FOX NEWS. unbelievable.

    I really sense the tide has turned…

  • dot48

    I’ve watched Greta since she had that cnn show

  • Blue Democrat

    Excellent excellent job of representing Hill& the Campaign
    by Kiki McLean on CNN.

    Combined with Jamie Rubin taking it to Andrea Mitchell earlier, today was easily the best on-air representation Hillary has had the entire campaign.

    Please keep these two in place as the 1-2 on-camera surrogates.

  • Tiny Dancer

    My mom loves Greta.

  • Artiste

    I’m watching Dot

    ZIINGER! re FL & MICH

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    wow, she’s good! She said a Democract nominee will not win either Florida or Michigan if you don’t count these two states. I love how she said, “well, hello?”

  • dot48

    Obama turned his back on Michigan ..

  • Artiste

    gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/oops-she-did-it-again-michelle-obama.html

  • djia

    @justmeinmountdorafl YES!! I was thinking that last week and especially today about his crowd!! LOL

    @dot48 I am not watching it right now … men in tree’s is on 😀 but am going to catch the repeat of greta later
    and i hear ya about the media “over looking” how she is the only one discussing the issues

    @tiny dancer LOL!!
    and my hubby wants to know if greta ever had a stroke? LOL

  • Tiny Dancer

    She just hit Obama on blocking the MI revote. ‘Sup disenfranchisement!

  • dot48

    she’s going to the Credentials Committee ..

  • admin

    Yay Hillary for calling out Obama’ on his Floriphobia and Michiphobia. Yay, credentials fight. Yay, Yay Yay. Can’t wait for the Youtube on this.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    dont forget the mayor of Philadelphia wrote a really passioniate support of Hillary in the opinion section of the newspaper, check it out

  • Artiste

    She also just laid out the PLEDGED DELEGATES can vote how they want to!

    YOU GO GIRL!

  • Artiste

    ADMIN…you are SO CUTE!

    Yay, yay, yay!

    😉

  • jr

    What exactly did Obama do to prevent Michigan from a re-vote??

  • Tiny Dancer

    If I were HIllary I’d be calling Obama at all hours of the night “Hey, hypothetically, there’s a situation in Iran right now, what would you do?”

  • rgb44hrc

    Welcome, GaryinDCandLA!

    I would love to meet Hillary too. I’m planning on it too, because I work in Philly, and for some strange reason, she’s been all over the state recently. I just can’t figure it out!!

  • Ronald

    anyone notice she is wearing PINK!

  • Artiste

    # Tiny Dancer Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    If I were HIllary I’d be calling Obama at all hours of the night “Hey, hypothetically, there’s a situation in Iran right now, what would you do?”

    LOL

  • Ronald

    jr- he totally blocked the re-vote. both the DNC and HRC campaign signed off on it and he refused to say yes or no and waited it out until the state legislature went on a break.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/oops-she-did-it-again-michelle-obama.html

    FORWARD THIS TO FOX!!!! AND ANY OTHER NEWS OUTLET!

  • filbertsf

    Isn’t one of Greta’s sister a Democratic strategist, or something like that?

  • Artiste

    Does FOX have good 10pm ratings?

  • dot48

    Please send Greta a big thank you.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    Artiste yes – remember FOX has been tops in news so far lately

  • Ronald

    I think Hillary logs on to Hillaryis44.com every night before bed. i wonder what her screen name is… is that you Space? Dot? Idunn?
    😛

  • Artiste

    # Ronald Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    jr- he totally blocked the re-vote. both the DNC and HRC campaign signed off on it and he refused to say yes or no and waited it out until the state legislature went on a break.

    Ron…when I called DNC today, I brough this up…Botgirl on the phone said “That is not true! The State didn’t come up with a viable plan!”

    Can you believe that?

  • rgb44hrc

    jr, just about all re-vote scenarios were denoted as having to be approved by authorities X, Y, and Z, including BOTH campaigns.

    David Brooks in his NYTimes coluimn this past Monday “credited” Obama’s lawyers for doing the politically smart thing, to SAY you’d LOVE to do the re-vote, but for reasons p,q,r,s, and t, it “wouldn’t be fair”. Of course, this is only “smart” in short-term thinking. Anyone can see that in the longer term (general election), Dems are going to lose FL because of this. And there goes the whole enchilada.

  • Artiste

    PLEASE EVERYONE CALL THE DNC AND ASK ABOUT THIS

  • Tiny Dancer

    Okay, I have to turn Fox off before Rove comes on or my TV will need an exorcism.

  • HillaryforTexas

    She ROCKED! She basically called out the stupidity of the DNC. We cannot win without Michigan and FL. Says take it to the convention and fight it out! Let their asses go on record as refusing to seat MI and FL, 3 months before a general election. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

    She upped the ante. She called their bluff and made it clear that it THEY want to play chicken with her, she is not backing down. Bring it on. Wooooo!

  • admin

    Headline for tomorrow is that Hillary is going to the convention – credentials fight in Denver. Expect an explosion from the Chicago gang.

    Obama is now boxed in: a legitimate nominee who respects the millions who voted in Michigan and Florida or an illegitimate nominee who ignores the voters in Florida and Michigan and premises his path to nomination on disenfranchisement.

    Yay, Yay, Yay (Thanks Artiste, we’re blushing) 😉

  • birdgal

    rgb44hrc Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    The full letter was posted by djia today at 3:33p.m.

  • Ronald

    uh Space=Artiste

  • jr

    So there is tangible evidence. She should really go off on this at the next debate.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    HillaryforTexas

    I heard there’s something about seating delegates this weekend? I hope people for Hillary will be there

  • HillaryforTexas

    Artiste, the state HAD a viable plan, that the DNC said met the rules, but the legislators said they would not vote on it unless BOTH candidates supported it.

    Hillary said “Sure!”, Obama weaseled out. NO way is it the MI legislatures fault. They were waiting for BO’s okay, and he refused to give it.

  • filbertsf

    Admin, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you post so… colloquially before.

  • admin

    GaryinDCandLA, LJ met Hillary today in the New York offices and is just as happy as your partner.

    Belated congratulations to LJ.

  • Ronald

    does anyone know about this:
    The Illinois Governmental Ethics Act (apparently last changed in 1995) provides:

    (5 ILCS 420/2-110)

    Sec. 2-110. Honoraria.

    (a) No member of the General Assembly shall accept any honorarium.

    .. but on his 2000 Schedule C-EZ, Barack reported that he received $16,500 as a “Foundation director/Educational speaker” and on his 2002 Schedule C, Barack reported $34,491 for “LEGAL SERVCES / SPEAKING FEES.”

    volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_03_23-2008_03_29.shtml#1206496543

  • dot48

    Rove .. calling out Obama as a LIAR. Rezco is going to come back to bite Obama

  • admin

    Giddy from Hillary’s fighting spirit filbertsf.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    admin you are doing a great job! I love your post today! Keep it up!

    WE HAVE TO HELP HILLARY WIN BIG BIG AND BIG IN PENN, then in NC a CLOSE ONE with the WIN, then WV and SO ON

  • Tiny Dancer

    GaryinDCandLA – Welcome! Hope to see you hang around these parts.

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    also we have to KEEP pushing Michigan and Florida we cant just depend on Hillary or the campaign but we have to have the grassroots to do it as well

  • rgb44hrc

    States didn’t have a viable plan… (trying to prevent barfing).

    Cute. Very cute.

    Actually, they do have a plan. “Seat our *&$%$#%^ delegates!!! And if you don’t, don’t expect everyone in our lovely state to jump up and support the exact candidate who didn’t want to hear from us ten months earlier”.

    And the wealthy donors in FL having been asking (or threatening to ask) for their big fat donations to the DNC back. And Dean has sheepishly had to acceed to their wills: “Come in and see us again soon?…”

  • djia

    @justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/oops-she-did-it-again-michelle-obama.html

    did anyone besides me read comments further down at this link?? in case you didn’t here is the one that “shouted at me”

    it included this link : h t t p:/ / volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_03_23-2008_03_29.shtml#1206496543

    Anonymous Neo said…

    Did Barack Obama Violate the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act?

    The Illinois Governmental Ethics Act (apparently last changed in 1995) provides:

    (5 ILCS 420/2-110)

    Sec. 2-110. Honoraria.

    (a) No member of the General Assembly shall accept any honorarium.

    .. but on his 2000 Schedule C-EZ, Barack reported that he received $16,500 as a “Foundation director/Educational speaker” and on his 2002 Schedule C, Barack reported $34,491 for “LEGAL SERVCES / SPEAKING FEES.”

    There’s some splain to do.
    5:52 AM

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    I didnt see that. we should also forward this as Obama always claims himself as a campaign of ETHICS, please!

  • Ronald

    dija-
    I read that too. Lets push that out to MSM immediately. Nice morning headline.
    He is a very naive, though arrogant politiician. nothing more.

  • Artiste

    Ron, yes….I painted space into a corner! LOL

    ADMIN :smooch:

    H4T…I KNOW, but to speak to the bot at the DNC, it was like bambi had NOTHING to do with it

    She was VERY rude to me

  • rgb44hrc

    birdgal, thanks for pointing out where the Pelosi letter was posted.

    Great point. If Obama leads in pledged delegates by 2, is that fair? 10? 34? Where exactly do you draw the line.

    The answer to that is in the DNC bylaws or whatever, where they stipulated the “wiinning threshold” for delegates (what is it, like 2025?). If you don’t win outright, the “game” goes into “overtime”.

    Ahem, THE RULES ARE THE FUCKING RULES!!!

  • Artiste

    Check this out from HC.com blog!

    HILLARYIS44.ORG

    Great web page. Thanks!

    GO HILLARY 08!!!
    GO HILL TEAM!!!

    by VirginiaMom4Hill at 3/26/2008 8:20:39 AM

  • djia

    @justmeinmountdorafl
    @Ronald

    I agree let’s pass it on, but first i would like to know from any attorney here what they think, is this for real?
    and perhaps we should slow down just a moment and check his tax returns to make sure we have the facts straight

  • justmeinmountdorafl

    djia, I agree, Do I hear you’ll do it?

    Guys Im off to bed! Goodnight my Hill-team!

  • Artiste

    Ronald Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    I think Hillary logs on to Hillaryis44.com every night before bed. i wonder what her screen name is… is that you Space? Dot? Idunn?

    god I would LOVE it if she was doing this! Even if she didn;t post or have a screen name at all…just to read here in our support of her!

    Hillary…if you are reading! YOU GO GIRL! We’ve got our back!

  • Artiste

    Ronald Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    I think Hillary logs on to Hillaryis44.com every night before bed. i wonder what her screen name is… is that you Space? Dot? Idunn?

    god I would LOVE it if she was doing this! Even if she didn;t post or have a screen name at all…just to read here in our support of her!

    Hillary…if you are reading! YOU GO GIRL! We’ve got your back!

  • Artiste

    sorry…tried to catch a typo!

  • Tiny Dancer

    Hillary should have ended that interview with “Bitches get stuff done!” That would have been awesome.

  • Artiste

    Gotta love the Bush Administration…helping our allies again in the war on terror

    Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Wednesday, March 26, 2008 — 11:01 PM ET
    —–

    Supplier Under Scrutiny on Aging Arms for Afghans

    Since 2006, when the insurgency in Afghanistan sharply
    intensified, the Afghan government has been dependent on
    American logistics and military support in the war against Al
    Qaeda and the Taliban.

    To arm the Afghan forces, the U.S. has relied on a fledgling
    company that has provided ammunition that is more than 40
    years old.

  • djia

    justmeinmountdorafl Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    djia, I agree, Do I hear you’ll do it?

    I can certainly do the investigating of tax returns, but i am no attorney and so…perhaps OkieAtty can do the checking on the
    other part?

  • MJ if you are on here you now have access to the Organizing section at the “safehouse”

  • TinyDancer, you are now in the “safehouse” too.

  • Blue Democrat

    Gov. Ed Rendell just hammering the hell out of MSNBC on Charlie Rose.

    “Keith Olbermann should be on Obama’s payroll!”

  • debbie

    artiste

    here is the daily rankings on cable news shows

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp

  • Tiny Dancer

    Thanks HillBillyLover!

    “Keith Olbermann should be on Obama’s payroll!”

  • What a great line…I hope that ends up on Youtube!

  • Tiny Dancer

    That was supposed to have a LOL after it.

    Dang, Hardball’s ratings are ass. Why do they keep Matthews around? For comedy relief?

  • wbboei

    Paula-somewhere upthread you asked me why a lifelong democrat like my mom is unalterably opposed to Obama and would hold her nose as it were and vote for McCain.

    First, she thinks the world of Hillary. She is impressed with her intellect, appearance, moral courage and enduring commitment to our country. Beyond that she believes deeply in the platform Hillary is fighting for.

    Second, she deplores the hatchet job msnbc and nbc have done, on Hillary and feels Baracks camaign is in pare delicto. I warned her of this early on but it never really sunk in until the Philadelphia debate/ pile on which Tweetie hyped and Pumpkin head co-moderated She identifies with the slings and arrows Hillary has been forced to endure i.e. the sexisim, gotchas, bullying and negative reporting. It keeps her awake at night worrying for Hillary’s sake.

    Third, she sees Obama as a pretender to the throne and complains routinely about his audacious lack of experience. She sees him as a business as usual tool of special interests. She is convinced as many people are that Barack would be a disaster for the country. She deeply resents Oprahs shameless promotion of Obama, and believes if that had not happened he would not be where he is.

    Fourth, I really believe that she and some asian american friends I brought to the precinct were traumatized by the caucus experience. It has been more than a month and only now are they willing to talk about it. I had to drop them off there and go to another voting place but I did interact briefly with Bambis precinct captain. He rushed up to me wild eyed and demanded to know who I was voting for. They come from a generation that is inclined to be polite and are disinclined to tell him what I did which was: who the fuck are you the house detective? Also they told me the Obama people were so loud that they had to move the Hillary people to another room. And of course we lost that precinct.
    I do think that experience adversely affects her impression of BO.

  • filbertsf

    Blue, what’s the context of the statement? Is the topic about the media’s bias for BO and against Hillary?

  • filbertsf

    Olgermann’s ratings are still significantly high. I want him to tank just like bow-tie boy.

  • carbynew

    Log Cabin Insulted by Howard Dean’s Remarks
    Democratic National Committee chair Howard Dean came under attack for speaking out against conservative gays and lesbians as well as Republicans of color.

    “They can’t become more diverse,” Dean said at a speech at the University of Wisconsin-Madison on Tuesday. “Who in their right mind, if they were African-American or Hispanic or Asian-American, if they were gay or lesbian, would join the Republican Party?”

    LGBT conservative group, Log Cabin Republicans issued a statement Wednesday against Dean’s comments. The group’s president, Patrick Sammon, said in the statement that Dean’s assertions are insulting to African-Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans, or gays and lesbians who support the Republican Party. Sammon also called for Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton’s and Barack Obama’s stances on Dean’s words.

    “Governor Dean needs to explain his callous assertion,” said Sammon. “It’s unfortunate that the chairman of the Democratic Party would rather divide people than engage in a thoughtful debate about policy ideas or a vision for our country’s future.”

    Dean is currently involved in a lawsuit by the party’s former LGBT outreach director Donald Hitchcock. The suit claims that party officials discriminated against him and his partner Democratic activist Paul Yandura, who criticized the DNC for not being proactive on LGBT issues. (The Advocate)
    ***************************************************
    What is the problem with Howard Dean? My aunt and uncle were republican because of Lincoln freed the slaves. She voted Democrat in the national but on local and state she voted for the person.

    This is what happens when you have these elites running the party apparattus…you don’t criticize the voters you just disscuss why the democrats have better solutions. Geesh, I’m starting to really getting ticked off by all these stupid comments by Dean & Co.

  • Blue Democrat

    filbertsf,

    Entirely. Rendell’s gone to town on media bias against Hill, and lambasted NBC, Brian Williams, Olbermann, citing SNL skit, etc.
    Went in the NY Times article on BO’s support of nuclear energy and how he watered down the bill under pressure.
    Quoted editor of Philadelphia Enquirer saying he didn’t even know of story, it had so little in the way of legs.
    Said Philly Enq. would have run that story on the front page had they known.

    Today should go down as Exhibit 1 as far as on-air representation and the difference it can make. Hill was served extremely well today by Jamie Rubin, Kiki McLean, and now Gov. Rendell.

    Tiny,
    They keep Matthews around to pollute the airwaves –
    the way they want them polluted!!!

  • CJ

    im with ronald i think it everyday
    sometimes when she is off to hotel whereever.before sleep logs on she reads lotts thats why she is so smart her reading and english skills are out of this world….i bet she laughs at us..lol..
    sometimes i think its admin..lol..

  • Artiste

    Carby…send this to Dean re his comments below!

    “They can’t become more diverse,” Dean said at a speech at the University of Wisconsin-Madison on Tuesday. “Who in their right mind, if they were African-American or Hispanic or Asian-American, if they were gay or lesbian, would join the Republican Party?”

    http://www.lindasog.com/archives/2008/03/dear_democrats.html

  • confloyd

    I think Greta was very nice, she did not try to hang her up, well maybe once! You could tell that she admired our candidate! I watched Rove and even he wasn’t too bad to Hillary! He hammered Obama with all the past indiscretions! He reinterated them at least twice, I loved it. Well, I wonder what tomorrow will bring? I still can’t imagine anyone being worried about the Bosniagate. Colmes destroyed that headline about the miitary being pist at Hillary because the brass that was saying nasty things about her works for Obama!! Way to go Obama, keep on digging that hole deeper.

  • Artiste

    debbie…thanks for the media bistro link

  • filbertsf

    Thanks Blue. Gosh, I remember a time when Olgermann was must-see-TV. How times have changed and people’s real intent are revealed. Olgermann is scum.

    Carby, with all due respect to your Aunt and Uncle, I agree with Dean. Conservative gays/lesbian is an oxymoron. To register as a GOP and vote as one because “Lincoln freed the slaves” is to not understand that after FDR, the Dems and Pugs flipped sides.

    In essence, during Lincoln’s time, Dems were Pugs and Pugs were Dems. Lincoln would not be welcomed in the GOP today.

  • Artiste

    @CJ “sometimes i think its admin..lol..”

    that would be funny as hell…but I think ADMIN is a great surrogate in any case!

  • Blue Democrat

    Filbertsf,

    “I remember a time when Olgermann was must-see-TV. How times have changed”

    That’s just what Rendell said. Said (paraphrasing) he once loved watching Olbermann but now you’d think Obama could walk on water listening to him, while Hillary can nothing right.

  • filbertsf

    I have this theory that Admin will reveal herself/himself on when Hillary takes the oath of office. Afterall, her/his job is complete.

  • Blue Democrat

    Beautiful intro here by Chelsea, talking about the “grandchildren she knows her mom wants her to have”

    Also said every time she can’t be more proud, Hill outdoes her.

    On CSPAN now, for those interested….

  • Emjay

    Tex4Hill…please note

    Please read what Texas4Hill has to say re the

    Texas County Conventions

    THIS SATURDAY!

    She posted @3:56 pm

    I just got an email list of Texas Hill delegates to call, to both reinforce and also, I suspect, to see who has already been picked off, from a friend who was on the ground for Hill’s campaign here in the midwest.

    Now I think that is how he picked off the Edwards delegates from here last week at the county conventions.

    He has to be watched at every step of the way!

    If you read what Tex4Hill posted in Ann’s blog, you can see what BO is doing…

    PICKING OFF HILLARY’S DELEGATES.

    If you want to help, give me a shout. We only have til tomorrow night.

    If I’ve put it together right Tex4, please say so…if I’m off, slap me down quick, cause I’m getting barfy again from stress.

  • rickroberts

    Geez, I really hate those fuckers over at Huffingtonpost. Just get a load of the headlines on the politics page. “Hillary’s Approval Rating Plummets In NBC/WSJ Poll,” “Poll: Pastor Controversy Hasn’t Hurt Obama,” “Paul Krugman Slams… Hillary,” “Voter Registration Shows Signs Of Promise For Obama In PA.”

  • Independent Ben

    Hey, a great interview for Hillary tonite. It’s funny that she has to go to Fox in order to get a few softballs from the media. But it was great that she was able to talk about (gasp) the issues some and her vision for the country.

    Saw a clip of Bambi from North Carolina, and he didn’t seem too comfortable – and he’s talking about Wright in his stump speech. He’s now saying he never heard any comments at all, which is back to where his position was “before” his big speech. How many lies of his are the media gonna let him get away with? He’s been caught so many times this campaign. He’s told a “series” of lies about his association with Rezko, starting with when he was first mentioned in that debate. He was caught lying in NAFTA-gate.

  • tcbequalityactions

    Hillary punked Obama in that interview with Greta.

  • rickroberts

    Yeah, who the heck is Admin? Carville perhaps? Begala?

  • tcbequalityactions

    Take away line from the interview with Greta?

    “The voters keep bringing me back!”

  • filbertsf

    rickroberts, then perhaps you shouldn’t go there and then come here and post their scummy headlines. If I wanted a snapshot of HuffPost’s headline, I’d go there.

  • tcbequalityactions

    Fabulous interview. Completely on her game. Knocked it out of the Universe.

  • Blue Democrat

    rick,

    Day after day after day. Beyond sickening…

  • Universal

    A diary I just wrote about Hill’s great day which should buck-up any possibly dispirited Clinton supporter:

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/22139/0780#58

    Hope you enjoy. Please recommend it if you like it.

    🙂

  • debbie

    I plan a protest vote in the GE if BHO, Pelosi, and Dean get away with this disaster.
    I will vote against every democrat on the ticket..and then we can talk about BHO’s coattails.
    I personally am so angry about that trio, I won’t give a damn if this so called “democratic party” falls flat on its face. It surely isn’t my party any more.

    Hey you vendors in Denver, better think twice about doing business with the DNC, they aren’t going to have any money to pay you!

  • tcbequalityactions

    Independent Ben – Rove gave the complete (well almost complete or as complete as we know up to now) litany of Obama lies and fabrications; not a professor, parents didn’t meet the way he mentioned in his book, first he wasn’t in the pews then he was in the pews. It went on and on. Obama is toast. Put a fork in him. He’s done.

  • Blue Democrat

    You see Filbertsf, that’s not right.

    You like when I bring you info because you like the info.

    But heaven forbid someone posts info you don’t like – even if it is highly relevant in showing what the enemy is up to – you have something to say and seek to scold the poster.

    Fuck that noise.

    Good night.

  • rickroberts

    Yeah, sorry, fil. I don’t know why I torture myself.

  • Universal

    Sorry, that was a comment link. Let’s try again:

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/22139/0780

    😉

  • Independent Ben

    Hillary is hitting hard on Michigan now, and people are listen. And dammit, she has very right to talk about it because it’s in the best interests of the party that MI/FL are included.

  • tcbequalityactions

    debbie – I’m with you. I say fuck the Democratic Party. If they screw Hillary then I’ll vote straight Republican just to spite them. The bastards!

  • confloyd

    Well, guys if Hillary does log on, I would like to thank her for telling us that she will take it to the convention and not cave in to the bots. I feel so strongly about not letting the White House get into the hands of a President Obama! This man is so dangerous for this country, it scares me.

  • filbertsf

    Blue, the problem is I already know what’s out there. I know the rampant negativity. I know about Huff Post… I used to visit it daily until it turned into a blog just to bash Hillary.

    I don’t think it’s necessary to bring all the noise here. It’s deafening as soon as you leave this place.

  • Emjay

    Blue Dem

    I can’t find chelsea…have c-span up…where is she?

  • tcbequalityactions

    Anyways, all in all a good day for Hillary and a good day for America. Good night folks.

  • rickroberts

    Woo! Go, Hillary! Are you reading? Go get some sleep!

  • confloyd

    Looks like Jay Lenno is following in the footsteps of his network in portraying Hillary in a bad light. I guess, that another network to banish from my living room. So far, I banished Msnbc, Cnn and now Jay Lenno and Oprah!

  • mj

    Paul Krugman slammed Hill? That sucks. He seemed on her side.

  • Blue Democrat

    filbertsf,

    I know what you’re saying better than anyone, believe me.
    The rampant negativity couldn’t be more deafening – though it won’t stop them from trying.

    That said, I’ve never taken a poster to task for bring information here, good, bad, or indifferent.

    I have certainly not received such non-judgmental treatment in return, and I don’t like seeing it done to anyone else, either.
    I don’t think it’s right.

  • filbertsf

    my, what’s going on with Krugman?

  • debbie

    filbertsf Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
    Blue, the problem is I already know what’s out there. I know the rampant negativity. I know about Huff Post… I used to visit it daily until it turned into a blog just to bash Hillary.

    me too!

    they lost all credibility, and they aren’t worth my time.

    it is hard to read negative things about Hillary on here though

  • Independent Ben

    tcbequalityactions,

    I suppose, but how much media play will stuff get? Obama still has his media. The boys at CNN, MSNBC, and CBS. After Obama’s big speech they pretty much fell back into the tank. I suppose they fed into Obama telling us that we would be committing a mortal sin if anybody ever talks about Wright again.

    At least Fox has more viewers, but they’re probably more independents and such, rather than Democrats.

  • texan4hillary

    jerome armstrong is doing good things for hillary on mydd right now. he showing how obama’s failure to address wright is hurting our party-hillary is behind in key states as well. we will all pay the price for obaam’s blunder. does anyone have armstrong’s emailcontact? i want to thank him. email-texan4hillary@gmail.com

  • texan4hillary

    emjay-whatever info u haveon this obama move in tx u need to email it on to me please. thigns are trying as it is here and clinton’s attys and deleagtes must know-texan4hillary@gmail.com

  • jr

    If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination, she should tear up the whole Democratic party by running as a third party candidate. She would win NY definitely, Florida could be up for grabs (She got 200,000 more votes than any of the other candidate), California could definitely be hers. Arkansas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan could seriously all be up for grabs.

  • wbboei

    rgb44:David Brooks in his NYTimes coluimn this past Monday “credited” Obama’s lawyers for doing the politically smart thing, to SAY you’d LOVE to do the re-vote, but for reasons p,q,r,s, and t, it “wouldn’t be fair”. Of course, this is only “smart” in short-term thinking. Anyone can see that in the longer term (general election), Dems are going to lose FL because of this. And there goes the whole enchilada.
    ___________________________________________________________
    rgb44: I agree that Brooks is wrong. I am surprised he is that ignorant. It is never a smart thing to refuse to do what is politically right based on legal techicalities when your opponent is saying lets do what is politically right and not let the legal tail wag the dog. And that is true even in the short run because sds being politicans understand the political imperative. It is as if BO is using his own lawyers to protect him from the voters, or to coin a phase would do anything to win.

  • Blue Democrat

    See, now I’m pissed but can’t help posting this because it’s potentially important;

    From the NYT: “(Obama) also disputed the notion that his trip was a vacation, given that it lasted two-and-a-half days. “It’s a long weekend that most Americans get about 50 times a year,” he said.

    Motherfucker, me and nearly everyone I know work weekends trying to survive! I haven’t had a vacation in decades!!!

    That’s more than a little out of touch.

    Hill should bash him over his friggin’ head with that one!

  • Emjay

    Universal

    love your mydd piece tonight…will go back and try to read most of the comments later.

  • Independent Ben

    We should take most polls with a grain of salt right now. The Obamabots and their media are spinning them all over the place. There is some NBC/WSJ poll out that tries to spin that Hillary has taken a bigger hit for the Bosnia stuff than Obama has for Wright. It’s a poll of likely Democratic voters. But I wouldn’t believe it or trust it for a second. If you read actually read it, you see that they only polled about Obama’s speech, and didn’t ask how voters felt about Wright in general.

    I think Obama has already been severely damaged with independents and swing voters, and some of these polls will try and cover that fact up. This is why they truly fear the voters of PA.

  • Emjay

    50 times a year??

    you can tell HE’S been a gummament worker or a revenooer for too long.

    Time to send him back to the private sector!!

  • MerrimackValley

    Is Barack Obama a Muslim wolf in Christian wool?
    By Reuven Koret March 27, 2008

    The glib handling of criticism of his relationship with the anti-American (“God Damn America!”) and anti-Israel (“a dirty word for Negroes”) Reverend James Wright may have bought him a little time. But the legacy of dissimulation about his long-concealed identity is about to come crashing down around the ears of Barack Hussein Obama, courtesy of the assembled testimony of his family, friends, classmates and teachers.

    The accumulated research indicates that Obama was in his childhood a devout Muslim, the son of a devout Muslim, the step-son of a devout Muslim and the grandson and namesake (“Hussein”) of a devout Muslim. He was registered in school as a Muslim and demonstrated his ability to chant praise to Allah in impressive Arab-accented tones even as an adult. Just as he has not disavowed his “uncle” Jeremiah, neither has he disavowed his Muslim faith that he was born into, raised with, celebrated and never abandoned. He just covered it over with a thin veneer of his own self-styled “Christianity.”

    Although as an adult he would register as a Christian, and occasionally attend a Christian Church (but apparently not often enough to listen to the preaching of his pastor, or so he would claim) this was a necessary step for a man who from earliest boyhood has nurtured the precocious ambition to be President of the United States.

    web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm

    A long article with a lot of research on Obama’s childhood. Kind of reminds me of one of those 666 movies.

  • CJ

    artiste..admin is great supporter,lol..it would be funny admin and hill and paul carville all took turns as being admin..lol..yes hillary go get some sleep.forget about MR Wrong,youll win.
    hes losing his voters left and right.and rove can keep smacking him down for you.i think rove will get him to bow out.

  • Emjay

    Independ Ben

    In the footnotes posted this afternoon about that poll, the pollsters pointed out they had over-weighted a portion of the population…wanna guess which part of the population??

    You’re right!!! The AA community, because the pollsters were interested in their reaction to the Rev Wright fla-fla.

    There are lies, statistics and lying statistics.

  • djia

    @bluedem

    and how many of us get to spend our “non” vacation “weekend” in the virgin islands on a whim???

    bambi is Deranged!!

  • mj

    Filbert, it was one of the huffpo headlines bluedem posted.

    Hey all, my husband had on Fox for a moment tonight. He said jaun williams was slamming BO saying he never takes responsibility. He’s trying to blame everyone else for Wright.

  • wbboei

    Artiste Says:

    March 26th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
    Carby…send this to Dean re his comments below!

    “They can’t become more diverse,” Dean said at a speech at the University of Wisconsin-Madison on Tuesday. “Who in their right mind, if they were African-American or Hispanic or Asian-American, if they were gay or lesbian, would join the Republican Party?”

    ——————————————————————- Dean asks a fair question. Now let him answer one:

    Who in their right mind would vote for a party that disenfranchises 2.5 million voters in the primary, and then asks them to vote in the general election for a nominee they did not choose who has corrupt friends, no experience and a marked tendency to play fast and loose with the truth?

  • Gee, I’m trying to remember the last time I vacationed in the Virgin Islands…it was back in 19NEVER!

  • Blue Democrat

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, as of 2007, quotes 35% of Americans as working weekends (at least one day), in addition to overwhelming numbers logging longer workdays, nevermind those working at home, for which the numbers have skyrocketed.

    That’s a lot of voters!

    Hill should crack him for being the prissy little out of touch bitch
    that he is.

  • mj

    Hey, what’s the address of the anonymous super?

  • Blue Democrat

    I didn’t post any HuffPost headlines!

  • Tiny Dancer

    I just went outside and there’s SNOW! In Seattle. At the end of March. It’s the apocalypse!

  • Blue Democrat

    btw, when you add multiple job holders, that number moves to 59% of people working at least one day on the weekend.

    And those numbers are as of 2006, not 2007 as I mistakenly posted previously.

    For sure, they’re worse now and headed in the wrong direction.

  • mj

    Ok, sorry, blue. Someone did upthread. I thought it was you.

    Sure, Dean made a point you make at home. But honestly, that’s a stupid thing to say. Voters never reward you when you attack their intelligence.

  • Blue Democrat

    Tiny,

    How many times do we have to say it?

    No weather updates here unless the forecast bodes favorably for Hillary’s upcoming campaign appearances.

    PLEASE!!!

  • texan4hillary, you have access now to the “safehouse”

  • Emjay

    Tex4Hill

    What I know came from your comment this aft around 3pm. You posted a link to Ann someone, and I read the whole thing.

  • mj

    anyone know that web address of the super d?

  • Emjay

    Rendell is being fabulous on Charlie Rose right now re our girl!

  • Independent Ben

    MerrimackValley,

    Wow, that Israel Insider is taking a pretty hard line against ole’ Bambi. 😉 I honestly don’t think he could a single jewish vote in the country, unless it’s a voter who is totally uninformed.

  • Good diary here, substantial links with good news from polls and other places:
    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/22139/0780

    Linked to:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/22_of_democrats_want_clinton_to_drop_out_22_say_obama_should_withdraw


    Wednesday, March 26, 2008
    A solid majority of Democrats, 62%, aren’t ready for either candidate to leave the race.
    ….
    Twenty-two percent (22%) of Democratic voters nationwide say that Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race …. an identical number—22%–say that Barack Obama should drop out.

  • Independent Ben

    1950, I’m familiar with the Rasmussen that says 62% of Democrats want this race to go on. 🙂

  • jr

    Does anybody have a video of Rendell?

  • debbie

    rarely will you find I offer this for readers, but Coulter does have a point here
    some of you might have already read this or deliberately passed it by
    it’s a Coulter thing so if you cant look at it, it’s understood

    news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20080319/cm_ucac/throwgrandmaunderthebus

  • Someone at TM says the DNC doesn’t have enough CASH to pay convention expenses! (Maybe that’s why they cancelled FL/MI hotel rooms. 🙂

    So Bill and Hillary spend a nice weekend in California near Pelosi’s home district doing fundraisers (for I presume Hillary’s campaign) and get a lot of big wig donors from there to write a letter to Pelosi telling her to shape up….

    Brilliant, I calls it!

  • wbboei

    true2party at 7:55 pm: I agree with you. The truth is most people today think Hoover is a vaccuum clearner. I saw clips of him once at the 1960 republican convention.

    Anyone with a sense of history will recall that he was a brilliant man who believed in markets uber alles and was utterly incapable of dealing with an unfolding economic crisis–remind you of anyone. He always believed in the business cylce and waited in vain for something positive to happen. It finally did when he left office and FDR took the reigns.

    Meawhile Wall Street traders stood on the ledge of office buildings to test the law of gravity, shanty towns grew up in major metropolitan areas called Hooverville, people I once knew rode the rails looking for work and soup kitchens were established in every city.

    And that is the glorious the legacy of Herbert Hoover who this LA Times blogger worries Hillary offended? He is either ignorant or delusional.

  • djia

    WOW!! Gov Rendell is such a great spokesman for Hillary!

    He’s really smackin home it tonight!

  • djia

    1950dem

    the DNC doesn’t have the money for the convention or to campaign against McCain……….bummer!

    I got an email earlier that i just laughed at, here it is (notice they only 1000 donations so far LOL )

    Dear deborah,

    Since we launched our Fight Back campaign last week, we’ve almost hit the goal of 1,000 donors.

    Your contribution gives us the resources to hit back with an aggressive media campaign. We’ll put Republicans on the defensive for spying on innocent Americans and protect Democrats who stood up to President Bush. Take this campaign over the top and contribute now.

    http://www.DemocracyforAmerica.com/DavidBeatsGoliath

    Thanks for all you do,

    -Rachel

    Rachel Moss
    Finance Director

  • rgb44hrc

    # mj Says:
    March 26th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Paul Krugman slammed Hill? That sucks. He seemed on her side.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    MJ, I read the most recent Krugman column, if that’s what is being referred to here (unless it is something else, like from his blog)…and it was extremely even-handed. He took all three candidates to task for their being clueless (McCain), disingenuous (Obama), or namby-pamby (Clinton).

    He calls it as he sees it. It’s refreshing to see a little fairness, based on sound technical analysis.

    Long live the Krug.

  • Blue Democrat

    Now would actually be a good time for Coulter to get out their and flame the hell out of Obama on Rev. Wright.

    I was wondering where she was. She’s holding her fire, as many on the right are. She said she’d vote for Hillary, so she should get her skanky ass out there and do her thing!

  • OkieAtty

    Hey, y’all. Sorry I disappeared earlier. Had an important call I had to take and it lasted past work hours. Tomorrow is a swamp and a good friend’s hubby died suddenly today.

    I wish I could go to TX this weekend, but it’s just not in the plans. No wheels yet since the accident and prolly have to attend a memorial service.

    I never got all the way through the MI case filed by the ACLU. If anyone has time tomorrow, you might track down the ACLU spokesperson and get the organization’s line on MI and FL not being counted. It could be something to use in a blog post or circulate.

    Anyhow, it’s Midnight here and I have court (again) tomorrow. I cannot say how proud I am of Hillary taking the DNC asshats to the woodshed. Next on the agenda, the 👿 bots. Let’s attack the Big Blogs and their organization. Anyone ever notice all the same memed posts go up within minutes of each other?

    Anyhow, g’nite.

  • mj

    Oh, that article? That was hardly slamming Hill.

    So, again, anyone know the website of the mystery super d.

  • debbie

    Blue Democrat

    I think she did a fairly good job here

    news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20080319/cm_ucac/throwgrandmaunderthebus

  • wbboei Says:
    March 27th, 2008 at 12:58 am

    The truth is most people today think Hoover is a vaccuum clearner. I saw clips of him once at the 1960 republican convention.

    Upright or canister?

    g,d,r

  • mj

    I’m 34 and I know who Hoover is. Sad if young people don’t know of Hoover. Hoverville. Who doesnt know about Hoover?

  • birdgal

    mj Says:

    So, again, anyone know the website of the mystery super d.

    mrsuper.org/ I think this is it.

  • Tiny Dancer

    Coulter was on some radio show on Friday all batshit insane like usual. She’s still saying she’ll vote for Hillary over McCain, but she said to note that she has not said she’d vote for Obama over McCain. She also said that the only way she’d vote for McCain is if he had Romney as the VP, but she didn’t think McCain was smart enough to choose him.

    Coulter is crizzazzy!

  • birdgal

    Hoover dam

  • Blue Democrat

    What I saw from Coulter seemed pretty restrained (for her), and toned down. She did off a few zingers, though her on-air presence has been zero lately;

    “Imagine a white pastor calling Condoleezza Rice, “Condoskeezza Rice.”

    “We treat blacks like children, constantly talking about their temper tantrums right in front of them with airy phrases about black anger.
    I will not pat blacks on the head and say, “Isn’t that cute?” As a post-racial American, I do not believe “the legacy of slavery” gives black people the right to be permanently ill-mannered.”

  • djia

    just sitting here watching the re run of greta and Hillary…….wow hill looks so nice!

    she should wear red more often!!

  • wbboei

    1950 Democrat: Wednesday, March 26, 2008
    A solid majority of Democrats, 62%, aren’t ready for either candidate to leave the race.
    ….
    Twenty-two percent (22%) of Democratic voters nationwide say that Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race …. an identical number—22%–say that Barack Obama should drop out.
    ——————————————————————-
    1950: if we can infer that the 22% who want Barack to drop out want Hillary to stay in (gosh that includes me!) then by my math 84% of democratic voters want Hillary to push on through the primary and most likely the convention as well.

    This poll can be used to rebut the argument that Hillary is damaging te party by continuing this race. How now brown cow Howard, Donna, Nancy, BO&MO who are wailing and nashing your teeth in the outer darkness because if Hillary pushes forward she might . . . . win.

  • lninla

    watching rerun of Greta – interviewing Rove now – who seems to have a very detailed laundry list of all the fibs that Obama has told from Selma to Life Magazine – nice to see someone call out Obama’s hypocrisy when it comes to honesty.

    Greta brings up a good question – where the hell is Howard Dean to answer all these questions?

  • djia

    Ininla

    my re run hasn’t gotten that far yet LOL but its nice to know what’s coming! 😀

  • lninla

    djia 😉

    I’m watching a DVR version – don’t have a time machine.

    I’ll refrain from posting, so I don’t give away anything.

    But the voting results for Gretawire poll is very good indeed.

  • lninla

    watching Greta again in real-time: Go Hillary – talking about seating the FL and MI delegates one way or another.

    I have to say – what is up with the camerawork on Fox – they can’t get Clinton in focus, can’t keep the camera stable, and Greta looks like she’s 3 ft tall compared to Clinton.

    Surprising that top 5 rated news channel seems to be so frugal – they couldn’t get a good camera person or good lighting. Jeesh.

  • wbboei

    1950: since he was a republican I can only assume he was upright–to a fault. Hell even Larry Craig is upright even when he is lying.

    mj: you are a very smart person who is very aware of what is going on. Have you noticed that many people around you are not that way. Take the case of Cansecco–the moody slugger for the Oakland Athletics who never achieved his full potential for various reasons. If you asked him who Herbert Hoover was do you think he would know? Ask him about a Hoover vaccum cleaner however and he will know what you are talking about. Not saying he is stupid only that he has different priorities and they do not sit around the clubhouse cracking jokes about Herbert Hoover.

    One thousand delegates in Texas to be called tomorrow and who’s to do it??? Me I guess. So its off to bed now. Good night all.

  • mk

    lol at the camera work on Greta. I couldn’t tell where they filmed the interview. It looked like they were in a small closet. And the hand held camera made me queasy. And were they both standing? What, they can’t afford chairs.

    Anyway, I thought Greta was great. She didn’t have that hostility and anger going for her that every other media person has when they interview Hillary.

  • djia

    Ok, I wish i had DVR HDR and TIVO LOL

    her interview part is done now (she was fabulous!!) I especially loved the way she said “because i love my country”
    I have to admit something here , I think she is the first politician I have ever heard say that so deeply & sincerely
    How refreshing!! 😀

    rove up next

  • Independent Ben

    djia

    It’s a great interview for her 🙂 She actually got a chance to talk about some issues, and her vision for the country. And I love the way she’s hitting Obama hard on MI and FL.

  • For anyone that didn’t catch it up thread, I made a private section of my website for Hillaryis44 people to strategize or trade info back and forth away from prying eyes. Last night I got a nasty email from a bot and they got the email address here. I decided to make a “safehouse” for people so they don’t have to post their personal info.

    politwix.com/kt is the address.

    Register with your name here so I know you are a Hillaryis44 person. Once I see you have registered, I’ll give you access to the Organizing section.

    Only Hillaryis44 people have access to this section, so its pretty secure. You can use this forum to send post email lists, SD information, letter samples — basically anything to info to help Hillary win. There is also a messaging feature, so you can send private messages to each other. There is a calender feature so you can post events, meetings, etc. The primary dates are already on the calendar. Play around with the forum, you can do alot of stuff there.

    It isn’t a substitute or this place, just a place to safely swap email addresses and more sensitive info.

  • Thanks Wbboei! Good night!

  • Independent Ben

    @HillBillyLover Good idea. I’ll get registered there.

  • djia

    Ind. Ben

    Yes, I loved how she put it all out there in very plain english on how Obama has hung up the re vote process

    I wish she had said more about how everyone had agreed and that the DNC had said the proposal was with in the rules
    but obama yet still said NO

  • Independent Ben

    mk

    It was a good softball interview for Hillary, where she could say some stuff she wanted to say. 🙂 Probably the biggest interview of Greta’s career. It’s so ironic that Hillary has to go Fox News to get anything other than some “gotcha” interview.

  • carbynew

    Independent Ben Says:

    March 27th, 2008 at 12:01 am
    tcbequalityactions,

    I suppose, but how much media play will stuff get? Obama still has his media. The boys at CNN, MSNBC, and CBS. After Obama’s big speech they pretty much fell back into the tank. I suppose they fed into Obama telling us that we would be committing a mortal sin if anybody ever talks about Wright again.

    At least Fox has more viewers, but they’re probably more independents and such, rather than Democrats.
    *****************************************************
    Let me tell you a secret. These guys don’t mean SHIT It’s the American voters who will determine the next president and things like Obama’s pastor and father figure views impacts hugely in the minds of the voters.

    And no amount of propagandizing by the media is going to change voter’s mind, especially when it’s involves your belief system. Hate speech from anybody is deplorable.

  • Independent Ben

    carbynew

    I agree. 😉 I think I’ll repost what I posted on Universal’s diary over at MyDD. I was trying to reason with some of the Obamabots:

    “The NBC poll you refer to is an obvious piece of spin from the Obama media. It tries to state that Hillary has taken a bigger hit from the Bosnia thing than Obama has from the Wright issue overall. Well, I think the voters have a little more sense than that, and there is ample evidence that damage has already been done to Obama nationally with independents and swing voters.

    In that NBC poll of likely Democratic voters, if you read it you’ll notice they only polled voters about their reaction to Obama’s “speech” and not their reaction to the Wright thing in general.

    Let’s allow the voters in Pennsylvania to be heard, and then start taking a serious look at overall electability. Come on guys, this General Election is serious business, and we can’t afford to lose it. There is too much at stake. The other day, old John McCain made a speech on the economy and said that we should basically do “nothing” about the current crisis we’re in.

    Already we know that Obama has shown no ability to connect with Latino voters. They’re an important group of swing voters who are leaning Democratic this year – but there’s plenty of evidence that Obama would lose many to McCain. Add to that the swing voters (Reagan Democratics) and Independents that he has lost – and will continue to lose when the GOP 527’s start playing Wright’s greatest hits to the country – and we’ve got real problems.”

  • Blue Democrat

    BTW, Charlie Rose said tonight he’d made numerous interview requests but had obviously been yet to land Hill.
    I’d love to see her do that show, as it’s the most serious format on TV, and though I’ve had some issues with Rose he’s about the fairest at-length, in-depth interview she’s likely to find.

    She could really use the airtime to get her message out, to both lay out her vision and describe in-depth the race and impending delegate battle as she sees it – and would like to see it.

    And of course I’d love to see her use the opportunity to lay some really really REALLY hard hits on BO, her hardest yet.
    I know she’s tired, but it’s the kind of thing I’d like to see her take the whole day to prepare for, and I think it’d serve her well.

  • Ininla, you now have access to private area.

  • texan4hillary

    hey-what is pelosi’s email again??

  • Hillary gives me so much hope! That the problems of the country and the world aren’t big and spooky, a little common sense can take care of them.

    When everyone is caught up in dirty work plotting (like now about Pelosi/DNC tanking the convention, or earlier about the Las Vegas caucuses and whatever flap was before that) … Hillary just blows it out of the water by doing some straightforward honest old-fashioned campaign thing!

    In Las Vegas she suddenly got all the news coverge — just by walking down a street knocking on doors. Then in those rigged casino caucuses — she brought in a bunch of other union workers from the other side of the strip, still well within the district, strictly within the rules….

    So here she blows Pelosi out — just by spending the weekend fund-raising and one little letter….

    And standing up for MI/FL and offering to fight for them in Denver. Really it makes sense — offending those voters could do long harm to the party, even longer than November.

  • lninla

    taylor marsh poster just noted Jerome Armstrong’s latest: mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/212852/240

    (excerpts only below)

    The point of the post though, was to show that Wright has done damage to Obama. Much deeper than anything previous that has been done to him. This isn’t “concern trolling”, it’s reality. Obama didn’t deal with Wright correctly (if he possibly could have), and its hurt his standing vs McCain, especially in Red and purple states.

    Arkan