Barack Obama In The Wright House

Barack Obama listened to Jeremiah Wright in person or on audiotape for more than 20 years, going back to college days, and now Obama wants us to believe he did not know Wright was saying what Wright was saying.

Barack Obama was friends with Antoin “Tony” Rezko for about 20 years, going back to college days, and now Obama wants us to believe he did not know Rezko was a slumlord who tormented Barack Obama’s African-American constitutents in buildings Obama himself helped Rezko obtain.

Is Rezko still a friend?

“Yes,” Obama said, “with the caveat that, obviously, if it turns out the allegations are true, then he’s not who I thought he was. And I’d be very disappointed with that.”

Slumlord Rezko, who tormented African-American constitutents of Barack Obama in vermin infested, heatless tenements is still Obama’s friend. To hell with the people who froze, Obama has chosen whose side he is on.

Superdelegates and voters in upcoming primaries must know that Obama sided with the rich and powerful in his state senate district and turned a large deaf ear to the suffering of his constituents. Now Obama wants a promotion to help the rich and powerful nationwide and turn both ears away from Americans without health care and suffering from Republican rule.

Shameless, Obama once again thinks Americans are stupid.

Sen. Barack Obama is trying to air his dirty laundry — even some items that might appear just a little wrinkled — as he prepares a full assault on Sen. Hillary Clinton over ethics and transparency. [snip]

With a gap between campaign contests, Obama is trying to unload controversies. On Friday he held extended conversations with the Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times about his longtime relationship with indicted developer and fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko. [snip]

Obama again rejected remarks of his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, calling them “incendiary” and encouraging Americans to look past racial divisions.

“If all I knew was those statements that I saw on television, I would be shocked,” he said. “We’ve got a tragic history when it comes to race in this country. We’ve got a lot of pent up anger and bitterness and misunderstanding.”

Obama has spent the past year expressing befuddlement as to how Rezko found out about the lush side yard whose sale allowed Obama to purchase a house he could not afford. Now a wealth of detail is recalled by Obama as to how Michelle and he plotted to bring the topic up with slumlord pal Rezko. As the Rezko trial progresses, we will find out more facts. Obama must be vetted throughly before the Denver convention.

Likewise, Obama, who listened to “Pastor” Wright’s sermons 20 years ago in college (presumably the speeches of a 20 years younger Wright must be humdingers with even more vivid “God Damn America” language) is expressing befuddlement that such language could ever be used by his close friend and “Pastor”.

Obama must think Americans are really really stupid – a hall mark of all flim flam artists is well disguised contempt for those he flim flams.

Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times:

Sen. Barack Obama, who had been declining to reveal earmarks he requested in 2005 and 2006, finally did so Thursday and probably would prefer the story to be about how his campaign challenged Democratic presidential rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, to do the same for her entire Senate tenure.

Instead, since I have some reporting history here, I am noting a pattern that has emerged: This is Obama’s third ethical conversion of convenience — taking on a higher standard, but only when it appears to be politically expedient. Obama is making government transparency and ethics a centerpiece of his presidential campaign.

The Obama record:

• • Obama took 23 subsidized rides on corporate jets in 2005, the first year he was in office. In January 2006, the very week he became the lead Senate Democrat on ethics, his office announced that in the future, his political war chest would pay the entire cost of using private planes.

• • Obama took donations from federal lobbyists and political action committees for his House and Senate races and his own Hopefund political action committee. He only stopped taking this political money — speaking out against it — when he launched his presidential campaign in February 2007.

• • Obama did disclose earmark requests he made in 2007; however, his office has been refusing since June, without explanation, to disclose earmarks Obama had sought previously. Thursday’s decision to disclose came on the very day the Senate voted on a one-year earmark moratorium. It failed 71-29. Clinton and Obama voted in favor.

Obama and Clinton have signed on to this moratorium measure knowing one of them will face the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain, who is leading the drive against earmarks and does not request them. Last month, McCain taunted Obama on lack of earmark disclosure. Obama will seek no earmarks for Illinois this year.

Obama’s presidential campaign hosted a conference call Thursday to trumpet his new disclosures even as they were being posted on the Internet. The call featured Obama ally Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.). McCaskill praised Obama’s openness and said, “And I think if we are not willing to share things, like, you know, appointment calendars or earmarks, I think it is a bad sign for truly making a change in the way this place operates.”

Since McCaskill raised the point: Obama has provided bare-bones information about his Senate schedule. I asked McCaskill about this. “I would think he would be happy to share information about how he spends his days,” she said. He is not. [snip]

Earmarks are tucked into legislation, controversial because they bypass review. Obama requested and did not secure $1 million for a hospital pavilion at the University of Chicago. Obama’s wife, Michelle, is vice president for community and external affairs, now on leave, at the U. of Chicago Hospitals. Obama also sought money for the Center for Neighborhood Technology, where his neighbor Jacky Grimshaw is a honcho.

In 2005, Obama asked for $500,000 for Kids Voting USA, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization encouraging young people to vote.

In 2006, Obama requested $250,000 for the Chicago Park District’s Obesity Prevention-Affordable Fitness Centers. He also asked for $8 million for a defense contractor linked to General Dynamics. Obama’s Illinois co-finance chairman, Jim Crown, is on the company’s board of directors.

We’ll await the Obama assault on Hillary and we will respond in kind.

We do wonder if the gorgeous mansion Obama lives in was built on some sort of native American burial ground and therefore all sorts of calamities befall dwellers in the house of comfort. Like a sequel in the Poltergeist films, the Obama/Rezko house has many ghosts. The latest ghost is none other than “Pastor” Wright – who “blessed” the house.

It is hard to imagine, though, how Mr. Obama can truly distance himself from Mr. Wright. The Christianity that Mr. Obama adopted at Trinity has infused not only his life, but also his campaign. He began his presidential announcement with the phrase “Giving all praise and honor to God,” a salutation common in the black church. He titled his second book, “The Audacity of Hope,” after one of Mr. Wright’s sermons, and often talks about biblical underdogs, the mutual interests of religious and secular America, and the centrality of faith in public life. [snip]

In an interview in March in his office, filled with mementos from his 35 years at Trinity, Mr. Wright recalled his first encounters with Mr. Obama in the late 1980s, when the future senator was organizing Chicago neighborhoods. Though minister after minister told Mr. Obama he would be more credible if he joined a church, he was not a believer. [snip]

Still, Mr. Obama was entranced by Mr. Wright, whose sermons fused analysis of the Bible with outrage at what he saw as the racism of everything from daily life in Chicago to American foreign policy. [snip]

In “Dreams From My Father,” Mr. Obama described his teary-eyed reaction to the minister’s words. “Inside the thousands of churches across the city, I imagined the stories of ordinary black people merging with the stories of David and Goliath, Moses and Pharaoh, the Christians in the lion’s den, Ezekiel’s field of dry bones,” Mr. Obama wrote. “Those stories — of survival, and freedom, and hope — became our story, my story.”

Mr. Obama was baptized that year, and joining Trinity helped him “embrace the African-American community in a way that was whole and profound,” said Ms. Soetoro, his half sister.

It also helped give him spiritual bona fides and a new assurance. Services at Trinity were a weekly master class in how to move an audience. When Mr. Obama arrived at Harvard Law School later that year, where he fortified himself with recordings of Mr. Wright’s sermons, he was delivering stirring speeches as a student leader in the classic oratorical style of the black church. [snip]

In the 16 years since Mr. Obama returned to Chicago from Harvard, Mr. Wright has presided over his wedding ceremony, baptized his two daughters and dedicated his house, while Mr. Obama has often spoken at Trinity’s panels and debates. Though the Obamas drop in on other congregations, they treat Trinity as their spiritual home, attending services frequently. The church’s Afrocentric focus makes Mr. Obama a figure of particular authenticity there, because he has the African connections so many members have searched for. [snip]

Despite the canceled invocation, Mr. Wright prayed with the Obama family just before his presidential announcement. Asked later about the incident, the Obama campaign said in a statement, “Senator Obama is proud of his pastor and his church.”

In March, Mr. Wright said in an interview that his family and some close associates were angry about the canceled address, for which they blamed Obama campaign advisers but that the situation was “not irreparable,” adding, “Several things need to happen to fix it.”

Asked if he and Mr. Wright had patched up their differences, Mr. Obama said: “Those are conversations between me and my pastor.”

Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job.

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”

Obama wants us to believe that for over 20 years of listening to “Pastor” Wright he never heard anything wrong.

Obama wants us to believe that he distanced himself on the day he announced he was running for president from “Pastor” Wright, although he never heard anything wrong.

Obama wants us to believe the house Rezko bought and Wright blessed should not keep him from moving to the White House.

Obama wants us to believe in him. The facts tell us not to believe in him or what he says.

Obama is trapped in the house of Rezko – the house Wright blessed.

Obama won’t get to the White House. Obama is trapped in the Wright house.

479 thoughts on “Barack Obama In The Wright House

  1. Obama expressed his “pent up anger” in “dreams of my father” – his first book.

    I sensed this anger when i read his book nearly 4 months ago. Since then I changed my mind about Obama as a candidate for anything that has to do with national security.

    I do not want a person with pent up anger in the WH. I NEED a president who will remain calm and will work hard to provide solutions for people with pent up anger.

  2. From politico – Obama’s church accuses media of character assassination:

    Otis Moss II, the current pastor of Trinity United Church, used his pulpit to defend his congregation and its past minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., from a wave of controversy stemming from inflammatory statements made by Wright.

    The church also released a statement that began: “Nearly three weeks before the 40th commemorative anniversary of the murder of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.’s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe.”

    Trinity United, an 8,000-member church on the South side of Chicago, came under intense scrutiny over the past week for statements made by Wright that harshly criticized American society as racist and blamed U.S. leaders for the Sept. 11 attacks.

    Moss delivered a fiery sermon Sunday, defending the African-American church’s right to speak out about social issues. He stressed Trinity’s work in its still-impoverished community, mentioning the church’s scholarship programs, drug counseling, SAT prep classes, and missions to Africa.

    Does Moss agree with Wright’s statements? I hope a sharp reporter will ask Moss this question.

  3. ‘YOU GOT THAT WRIGHT”…

    ‘WHITE IS WRIGHT’…A NO, NOT THAT….

    ‘WRIGHT ON’ OBAMA. ‘WRIGHT ON’ !!!!

  4. Great post admin.

    Everyone, please run, do not walk, over to mydd and recommend the diary on Peter Daou’s challenge to Hillary’s bloggers.

    If you recommend it, it stays up longer and tons more people will read it.

    And it is very good. Peter really lays it out. No negatifve campaigning by Obama is a myth and bloggers can prove it.

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/16/18538/8961

  5. The letter I am sending to all undecided SDs tonight.

    As an American, the recent disclosures about Senator Obama’s pastor are deeply disturbing. I am outraged that someone who is seeking to lead our nation has long associated himself with someone who so clearly seethes with hatred for America and all for which she stands. It does not matter if Senator Obama was “in the pew” to hear any particular sermon, this is clearly a world view a philosophy that Rev. Wright holds dear. It is inconceivable that Senator Obama was not aware of Rev. Wright’s views during a 20-year, deeply personal (by the Senator’s description) association. Frankly, any claim that is case, insults my intelligence.
    As a democrat, I now believe Senator Obama to be unelectable in the General Election. Americans are nothing if not patriotic. Love of our country and a deep desire to keep it safe are a core tenet to what it means to be an American. We have seen time and again that American’s are willing to subjugate many other values in the name of Patriotism. Rev. Wright’s horrific accusations and damning of our country, fly directly in the face of that Patriotism. One can only imagine how the Republicans would use this in the Fall to once again paint the Democrats as overly-liberal, weak and America-hating. One can picture the ads now. They will be very, very ugly.

    He can’t brush this off as random comments from a surrogate because by his own admission Wright was his chosen minister, his “spiritual advisor,” his mentor for 20 years.

    I simply don’t see how we can have Senator Obama as our nominee when he has shown such questionable judgment and given the Republicans such ammunition. If this goes on much longer, it will continue to damage not only Senator Obama but any democrat running in the fall. The nation’s response to this should be watched very, very carefully by the Democratic leadership. I have come to believe that if should nominate Senator Obama, we would be facing a defeat on par with McGovern losing by 49 States in 1972 or Carter (a sitting President) losing by 44 States in 1980 or Mondale losing by 49 States in 1984. This in a year when Democrats were supposed to storm into the White House. I urge you to consider this when making your decision as to whom to support as the Democratic nominee for President.

  6. SORRY REPEAT ON THE RIGHT ON…..

    I’M DREAMING OF A ‘WRIGHT’ CHRISTMAS…

    OBAMAS JUST ‘WRIGHTEOUS’…

  7. What is this assault that B.O supposedly has planned for Hillary? More RW tactics from Mr Hope and Change??

  8. Ann Says:
    March 16th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    great letter, Ann!

    Let’s all follow suit and write to the SD’s (in a polite way) about this!

  9. I am new to this site but I am glad to find other people as mad and upset about Obama and Wright . I have been wondering how many voters will not vote fo Obama . I blog on at Hillary,com under1627.and I donate there.I can’t even guess what he could do to assault Hillary.

  10. Bill Clinton Meets with Brad Pitt, Volunteers to Promote Katrina Rebuilding

    NEW ORLEANS — Former President Bill Clinton met with actor Brad Pitt and hundreds of volunteers in the Lower 9th Ward on Sunday at the site where a foundation headed by Pitt plans to begin building affordable homes for Hurricane Katrina victims.

    h t t p (only) elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/16/bill-clinton-meets-with-brad-pitt-volunteers-to-promote-katrina-rebuilding/

    No doubt, Bill will be talking about this during his interview tomorrow night. A President who actually cares about people…. how refreshing!

  11. TAYLOR MARSH:

    BREAKING: Clinton’s Internet Director Challenges Bloggers to Cover Obama Campaign Tactics

    Well, this is a first.

    Peter Daou is Clinton’s Internet director. I just found out that he has sent out an email to a group of bloggers with a challenge: “I challenge my online friends to call this “full assault” on Hillary’s character for what it is.”

    I got a copy of the email he sent out so I’m going to post it in its entirety. The subject title reads as follows: Barack Obama’s “Full Assault” On Hillary Clinton. The email text is below:

    I’m writing this to a group of bloggers. Some of you are Hillary supporters, some not, some neutral.

    I want to address a pervasive misconception, namely, that Senator Obama hasn’t run a negative campaign against Hillary. I think it’s time to put that misconception to rest.

    The truth is that for months, the Obama campaign has been attacking Hillary, impugning her character and calling into question her lifetime of public service. And now the Chicago Tribune reports that Senator Obama is preparing a “full assault” on her “over ethics and transparency.” To those who contend that Senator Obama is the clear frontrunner, I ask, to what end this “full assault” on Hillary?

    On CNN last Tuesday, Senator Obama said, “Well, look, Wolf, I think if you watch how we have conducted our campaign, we’ve been very measured in terms of how we talk about Senator Clinton. … I have been careful to say, that I think that Senator Clinton is a capable person and that should she win the nomination, obviously, I would support her. You know, I’m not sure that we have been getting that same approach from the Clinton campaign.”

    The facts of this election stand in stark contrast to that statement. Senator Obama and his senior campaign officials have engaged in a systematic effort to question Hillary’s integrity, credibility, and character. They have portrayed her as someone who would put her personal gain ahead of the lives of our troops, someone who would say or do anything to win an election, someone who is dishonest, divisive and disingenuous. They have adopted shop-worn anti-Clinton talking points, dusted them off and unleashed a torrent of unfounded character attacks against her. Among other things, they have described Hillary – and her campaign – as:

    “Disingenuous”

    “Too polarizing to win”

    ‘Divisive’

    “Untruthful”

    “Dishonest”

    ‘Calculating’

    “Saying and doing whatever it takes to win”

    “Attempting to deceive the American people”

    “One of the most secretive politicians in America”

    “Literally willing to do anything to win”

    “Playing politics with war”

    To top it off, they have blanketed big states with false radio ads and negative mailers — ads and mailers that experts have debunked time and time again. They have distributed health care brochures using Republican framing. They have tried to draw a nexus between Hillary’s votes and the death of her friend Benazir Bhutto. And one of Senator Obama’s top advisers (who has since left the campaign) recently called Hillary “a monster.”

    This “full assault” on Hillary comes from the very top of the Obama campaign, not surrogates and supporters.

    This “full assault” is being directed at someone I personally know to be a thoughtful, brilliant, principled, compassionate person, someone the world knows as a good Democrat, a trailblazer, a lifelong champion for children and families, a respected former first lady, a senator, a presidential candidate.

    This “full assault” is targeting a staff of hundreds of hard-working, dedicated Democrats, who I’ve had the privilege of working with for the past 14 months.

    This is a hard-fought campaign – as it should be. Like any candidate for elected office, Hillary has made clear why she thinks she would do a better job than her opponent. She has laid out comprehensive policy proposals, put forth her 35-year record of accomplishment, and spent countless days introducing herself to voters across the country. She has said that she is far better prepared to take on John McCain on national security. She has contended that she is the candidate with the experience to confront the GOP attack machine. She has argued that she is more electable. She has said that Senator Obama’s words are not matched by actions. And she has challenged him to live up to core Democratic values and goals such as universal health care.

    I recall indignation online at the suggestion that Senator Obama has not made the case that he is ready to be Commander in Chief — the concern being that this would be terribly detrimental to him in a general election. As I blogged recently, and as many of you know, I spent 2004 in the Kerry-Edwards war room, and I understand full well that national security will be front and center in the general election. It’s not a matter of choice. And the reality is that the public views Hillary as better prepared to take on Senator McCain when it comes to national security. Democrats must factor that in as they nominate a candidate to win in November.

    If that suggestion is potentially harmful to Senator Obama in a general election, how exactly do the personal attacks against Hillary (which echo and reinforce rightwing talking points) help her in the event she wins the nomination? I recall no similar outrage at those harsh attacks on her character, many of which were directed at her when she was the clear frontrunner and seen as the likely nominee.

    Both candidates are running a vigorous campaign. Both have had surrogates or supporters who have crossed the line and made offensive statements that they rejected. And these offensive statements are an unfortunate part of a long and close campaign. Those who make a habit of automatically assuming and ascribing to only one candidate the worst motives, ignoring more reasonable and benign explanations, who substitute conjecture for fact and then use those assumed ‘facts’ as a foundation on which to pile more conjecture about only one candidate’s intentions, who express anger at negative campaigning and perceived dirty tricks but focus on only one candidate’s words and actions, risk losing credibility. And those who conclude from that one-sided reasoning that Hillary ought to stop seeking victory, should ask themselves if quitting in the middle of a hard-fought – and winnable – contest is a desirable attribute in a future president.

    Hillary has rightfully stated that as Democrats we should be proud of our field of candidates. And it is truly inspiring to see the level of enthusiasm among voters this cycle. We should encourage as many people as possible to become part of this process and to forcefully advocate for their candidate of choice. But there is a sharp line between supporting a candidate (and excusing their faults, which all supporters do to some degree) and conducting a “full assault” on an opponent’s integrity and character. The Obama campaign’s unabashed attacks on Hillary’s honesty and trustworthiness should give every Democrat pause.

    We are all entitled to support and oppose whomever we choose, but I challenge my online friends to call this “full assault” on Hillary’s character for what it is.

  12. Thanks Spacegirl.

    now i wanna find addys to all Penn, Indian and north Carolina media so I can blitz them, too. 😈

  13. More Reasons to Love Hillary:

    She has not only withstood attacks and betrayals that have run the gamut from the outlandish to the deeply painful but has grown in the grace of God and deepened her commitment to fight injustice and to work to improve the lives of all Americans.

    In 1995 she stood boldly, defiantly, and proudly in Beijing and proclaimed “women’s rights are human rights;” a simple and powerful clarion call to women and all those that support equality and peace to step up to the plate and continue to do all the hard work necessary to improve the lives of all that inhabit this planet. In that speech Hillary Clinton said “By gathering in Beijing, we are focusing world attention on issues that matter most in our lives — the lives of women and their families: access to education, health care, jobs and credit, the chance to enjoy basic legal and human rights and to participate fully in the political life of our countries.”

  14. 😳
    Forgot to repost the letter.

    The video-taped comments of Jeremiah Wright denouncing America, blaming the US for having provoked 911, disseminating the AIDs virus, and making racial insults against former and current US Presidents, their families, and Senators brings into question the trait that Senator Obama so proudly proclaims as his primary claim to the presidency, his judgment.

    Following are just a few of Reverend Wright’s incendiary remarks.

    “What’s going on in white America, U.S. of KKKA?”
    “What we are doing is the same thing al-Qaida is doing under a different color flag.”
    “God damn America for treating us citizens as less than human. God damn America”
    “They want us to sing God Bless America? No no no. It’s God Damn America.”

    Senator Obama has belonged to Trinity United Church of Christ for over twenty years. During that time the church has made no secret about Reverend Wright’s controversial positions, even advertising tapes of his sermons through their official website, http://www.tucc.org/home.htm. and offering them for sale to the general public.

    It is implausible that a man of Mr. Obama’s intelligence and education was unaware of Reverend Wright’s extremist views as those principals underlie the framework of the congregation’s “Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian” perspective as stated on their website’s home page. Among their 10-point Vision are the following:

    We are an African people, and remain true to our native land.
    We are a congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
    We are a congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
    We are a congregation committed to LIBERATION and RESTORATION.

    Imagine, for a moment, the damage Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups could cause with such rhetoric, smacking eerily of Islamic propaganda, coming from a Potential President’s Pastor and disseminated at weekly sermons attended by the candidate for the past 20 years.

    This is one of the many reasons Senator Obama is unfit to become Commander-in-Chief. It is clear by his two decades long association with such a blatantly militant, separatist church that he does indeed lack the ‘judgment’ to be president.

    Sincerely,

    ,

  15. Now I understand Michelle Obama’s crassness and her unfounded sense of entitlement.

    I quote:

    From these bleak generalities, Obama moves into specific complaints. Used to be, she will say, that you could count on a decent education in the neighborhood. But now there are all these charter schools and magnet schools that you have to “finagle” to get into. (Obama herself attended a magnet school, but never mind.) Health care is out of reach (“Let me tell you, don’t get sick in America”), pensions are disappearing, college is too expensive, and even if you can figure out a way to go to college you won’t be able to recoup the cost of the degree in many of the professions for which you needed it in the first place. “You’re looking at a young couple that’s just a few years out of debt,” Obama said. “See, because, we went to those good schools, and we didn’t have trust funds. I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that Dick Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!”

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/10/080310fa_fact_collins?currentPage=3

    A house purchased with Rezko cash and a salary increase she received as a result of her husband’s ability to secure earmarks for her employer, a job wth a WAL-MART affiliate as a result of her husband’s status as Senator, a full-time maid, piano lessons for your overfacilitated daughters and all the other perquisites of one’s status of wife of US Senator, and this woman still believes we should “give her something?” Michelle, American society is not a welfare program, and you actually have to earn your way. Take your sense of entitlement somewhere else, skank.

  16. She still seems to think America OWES her everything in life.

    I’ve never had anything given to me, I’ve worked my arse off for what I’ve got ..

  17. from TM comment,

    I read one poster say that her husband (an african american) was voting for Obama because he and many others, thought that Obama would dole out the reparations, and they would get a bundle of money.
    sarainitaly | Homepage | 03.16.2008 – 7:10 pm | #

  18. re: pulchritude at 7:25 PM – Health care is out of reach (“Let me tell you, don’t get sick in America”),

    Especially at the University of Chicago Hospitals where those for whom health care is out of reach (the uninsured) are charged 3 times more than what the insured are charged. I guess that universal coverage might mean that they wouldn’t be able to charge 3 times as much as everyone would be covered.

  19. merrimack,

    and michelle’s salary could not be tripled if the uninsured was not filched by the organization for whom her husband attempted to secure tax dollars that would ultimately fund the mansion they could not afford.

    MICHELLE OBAMA IS A WELFARE QUEEN. “GIVE US SOMETHING HERE.”

  20. I sent this email to Fox this morning. I didn’t even bother sending to the others, no way will they do it:

    It’s time to connect the dots.

    How can Obama condemn his pastor and dissassociate from him, when in Mississippi, Obama used words from a speech by agitator and Muslim radical Malcom-X “bamboozle” and “hoodwink”. Here is the Malcom-X Speech:

    Malcolm X: “I must emphasize at the out start that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is not a politician. So I’m not here this afternoon as a Republican, nor as a Democrat; not as a Mason, nor as an Elk; not as a Protestant, nor a Catholic; not as a Christian, nor a Jew; not as a Baptist, nor a Methodist; in fact, not even as an American, because if I was an American, the problem that confronts our people today wouldn’t even exist. ”

    “So I have to stand here today as what I was when I was born:

    A black man.

    Before there was any such thing as a Republican or a Democrat, we were black.

    Before there was any such thing as a Mason or an Elk, we were black.

    Before there was any such thing as a Jew or a Christian, we were black people!

    In fact, before there was any such place as America, we were black!

    And after America has long passed from the scene, there will still be black people.

    I’m gonna tell you like it really is. Every election year these politicians are sent up here to pacify us!

    They’re sent here and setup here by the White Man!

    This is what they do!

    They send drugs in Harlem down here to pacify us!

    They send alcohol down here to pacify us!

    They send prostitution down here to pacify us!

    Why you can’t even get drugs in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    You can’t get prostitution in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    You can’t get gambling in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    Every time you break the seal on that liquor bottle, that’s a Government seal you’re breaking!

    Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had!

    Ya been took!

    Ya been hoodwinked!

    Bamboozled!

    Led astray!

    Run amok!

    This is what He does….”

    Jeremiah Wright uses many of these same expressions, and as a matter of fact, the sermon on September 16, 2001 by Wright in which he declares that “America’s chickens are coming home to roost” is actually from a speech by Malcom-X called that he gave December 4th, 1963. “God’s Judgment of White America”.

    Per the website Malcom-X.org:

    “This speech is sometimes called “The Chickens Come Home To Roost,” because of an answer Malcolm X gave in response to a question following the speech. The question concerned the late President John Kennedy. It was Malcolm X’s answer, that the Presidents death was a case of “chickens coming home to roost” — that the violence that Kennedy had failed to stop had come back to him, this resulted in the Elijah Muhammad silencing him. Malcolm X left the Nation of Islam a short time later.”

    Here is one of many inflammatory passages from that Malcom X speech:

    “White America is doomed! God has declared that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad is your only means of escape. When you reject The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, when you refuse to hear his message or heed his warning you are closing your only door of escape. When you cut yourself off from him, you cut yourself off from your only way out of the divine disaster that is fast approaching White America.

    Before your pride causes you to harden your heart and further close your ears, and before your ignorance provokes laughter, search the Christian Scriptures. Search even the histories of other nations that sat in the same positions of wealth, power, and authority that these white Americans now hold…and see what God did to them. If God’s unchanging laws of justice caught up with every one of the slave empires of the past, how dare you think White America can escape the harvest of unjust seeds planted by her white forefathers against our black forefathers here in the land of slavery!”

    We all remember the horror that occurred on September 11th, 2001 and the strong emotion felt afterward. It was a shared pain that affected most people, regardless of race, in a similar way. But apparently not Jeremiah Wright.

    How could Obama bring his sweet little girls to hear this hateful rhetoric. It is a disgrace. Obama has done nothing but divide us, we need to move forward, not back.

    Please connect these dots for America.

  21. I read the ABC story on the Bill Clinton interview; there was nothing in it that’s remotely controversial, lol.

  22. Idunn
    hows the antiquing ? any good finds? Chris wallace on FOC today started an “obama watch” and he is keeping it up until 😈 comes on the show to answer questions about wright LOL I tell you they have something on him and thye are gonig to take him down. now the church has attacked them back so it’s now a challenge fox wont back down form this is gonna be good i think:)

    heres one for ya
    hillaryworldwide.org/media/1/20080316-newcabinet255.jpg

  23. Further reasons to love Hillary:

    Her life long dedication and work on behalf of equality and civil rights. In 1962 she went to listen to MLK Jr. give a speech in Chicago titled “Remaining Awake Through a Revolution” and learned from him the importance of equal rights for all. Hillary as a young woman and student at Wellesley addressed civil rights in her college commencement address. After finishing law school she went to work for Marian Wright Edelman to fight segregation in schools and challenge discriminatory practices and soon after that she was working to register blacks and Hispanics to vote. In the late 90’s she began calling for the government to treat kids as “child citizens not “minors” under the law. Hillary Senate voting record is rated 96% by the NAACP indicating a pro-affirmative action stance. As Presidential candidate she has vowed to end the military’s “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy and frequently quotes Goldwater “Gay soldiers need to shoot straight, not be straight.”

    All those that support gender equity will have a beautiful and talented role model who caries herself with grace and dignity.

  24. Bill is being a good boy 😉 No one could possibly twist that story as controversial.. Not even the Obamabots 😛

  25. BMerry posed an interesting question upthread yesterday: how many people have been influenced by his (Obamas spirutual advisor’s spirtual advisor’s) vitriolic sermons?
    _________________________________________

    One of them may well have been Oprah. I have it on good authority that she is anti-white as well in her off camera statements. This information comes within her show. There is a confidentiality agreement they all sign which prohibits such disclosure so it is credible.

    The question is not merely who is influenced but who is attracted to go back to that church for twenty years on a routine basis. What parent out there hasn’t told his or her child at one time or another to stay away from someone because they are a bad influence. The same principle applies here–or to personalize it a bit:

    Michelle if you cant run your own house what makes you think you can run the white house?

  26. Evening all. I’ve got a few thoughts on this Obama-Wright situation so bare with me. I didn’t always dislike Obama. Early last year I was actually leaning towards his candidacy. But after a few months I concluded that, although he was charming and a gifted speaker, he was not ready for the presidency and there just wasn’t enough substance to go along with the lofty speeches. I still respected him as a good Democrat, but I became a Hillary supporter. Despite all the attacks and low blows from him and his camp I just chalked it up to politics as usual- this is just how the game is played. However, this Jeremiah Wright story is just too much. Forget the politics, how could he have ever embraced a man that is so consumed with hate? Even if BO didn’t know about all his racist & crazy rants, highly unlikely I know, why in the world didn’t he condemn THE MAN not just his words? Why is he still a member of this church even today? I’ve watched repubs for years embrace right wing crazies like Falwell and Robertson. I never thought I would see a member of my own party do the same. And make no mistake Wright is just as bad, maybe even worse than that bunch. It’s just sad and disappointing.

  27. Idunn
    hows the antiquing ? any good finds?

    Okay, now you’re creeping me out. How did you know I went antiquing today?? And yep got a gorgeous 1940’s tablecloth for $14 . No butterchurn I could afford though.

    Now I’m sitting here having coffee and trying to catch up on the political news of the day. 🙂

  28. Here are some Martin Luther King Jr. Quotes so you can compare a moderate with the rhetoric of Dr. Wright.

    A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus.

    A lie cannot live.

    A man who won’t die for something is not fit to live.

    At the center of non-violence stands the principle of love.

    Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.

    Have we not come to such an impasse in the modern world that we must love our enemies – or else? The chain reaction of evil – hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars – must be broken, or else we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.

    I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. This is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant.

    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

    Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.

    Life’s most persistent and urgent question is, ‘What are you doing for others?’

    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

  29. nikki22 – That’s a great point in equating Wright with Republicans embracing the likes of Falwell and Robertson. They are different sides of the same coin.

  30. hey – how are you all doing?

    How come her website hasnt had any new posts? There’s none from today – unusual for her

  31. For a woman who has been treated so badly by the U.S. media, one would never know, that she has made the list of most admired women in the world, several times. She has been called “a monster,” hateful, polarizing, divisive, racist, will do anything to win, dishonest, secretive (I wonder why?), calculating, a fear mongerer, bitch, arrogant, condescending, and numerous other negative names/labels. The Obama campaign and the U.S. media have portrayed a very accomplished woman, a former First Lady, and current Senator as a pariah. This so shameful.

    12/26/2007
    Gallup Poll: Hillary Clinton Most Admired Woman
    For 6th Straight Year, Hillary Is Named Most Admired Worldwide
    For the sixth consecutive year, Hillary Clinton was named the most admired woman in the world in a Gallup poll released today. She was picked by 18 percent of respondents, her highest standing since 2000.

    “Americans know Hillary has been fighting for children and families for 35 years,” said Clinton Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle. “They admire her commitment and strength to make change.”

    It was the 12th time Clinton has been named the most admired woman in the world. She has finished first or second in each of the last 15 years.

    Gallup has asked the most admired man and woman questions in all but two years since 1948.

    hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4915

    It can be verified by other sources.

  32. I am ashamed of my country for portraying such a competent woman in such a negative light. The DNC should be ashamed of themselves.

  33. Ok, I think there are three african americans on this thread presently. I do not believe Donna Brazile at all when she claims there is a “civil war” in our Party. i think Obama’s supporters use that rhetoric to fan the flames and scare white liberals who don’t know better. What do you guys think? And, will there be some african americans who come forward and tell her, and other Obama supporters(most of whom do this, are white) to stop fanning the flames? I mean, take this Wright thing, for example, Juan Williams seemed to share no allegiance with Mr.Wright, and he said Obama’s response was unbelievable, while Donna defended Mr.Wright and sought to further accussations against Hillary. Will some come forward to inject some realism into the discussion?

  34. justmeinmountdorafl – If you are talking about HRC’s website that is not true. Wolfson did his usual HUBdate. This one title “Full Assualt.” It’s Sunday and having only one post like this is pretty common for a Sunday.

  35. Remember that Saturday night skit where Barack came on the set took off the mask and behold underneathe it was another Obama, the implication being what you see is what you get.

    At the time I blogged that he needed to take off that mask too because there are different people under it that we need to know about.

    In the movie Anatomy of a Murder lawyer Jimmy Stewart makes the profound observation that “nobody is all one thing”. Thus if he had continued taking off the masks we would have found his 20 year spiritual advisor underneathe all he fluff. He is part of what Obama is.

    If you believe Barack didnt know about Wrights racism after 20 years, that he kept it in a heremetically sealed container whenever Obama was in the pews then you must also believe in the tooth fairy. And he knowingly brought him into his capaign with a wink and a nod.

  36. Some more Martin Luther King jr. quotes that I’m sure you have NOT heard Obama utter.

    We must develop and maintain the capacity to forgive. He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love. There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies.

    We may have all come on different ships, but we’re in the same boat now.

    We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools.

    War is a poor chisel to carve out tomorrow.

    The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people.

    The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.

    Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.

    Never succumb to the temptation of bitterness.
    ***************************************************
    Donna Brazile needs to STOP and really Think about what’s coming out of her mouth…No Way Would MLK and Dr. Wright be compared together and that is what she did by excusing that Hate filled man.

  37. They have two posts. One by wolfson, which is the hubdate, and a second about the full assualt by Peter Daou.

  38. BASIL!
    “Thanks Spacegirl.

    now i wanna find addys to all Penn, Indian and north Carolina media so I can blitz them, too. :twisted:”

    ALL PAPERS contact HERE : newslink.org/panews.html

  39. I wish we knew how to reach Hillary’s Internet guy Peter Daou ..

    her campaign needs to have one entire team who will work with the tone that these reporters are putting in headlines…it is out there that Obama camp has a whole team of people who do nothing but send emails to reporters .. THAT IS WHERE THESE OFFENSIVE HEADLINES ARE COMING FROM

    her campaign needs to ratchet up the contact with these reporters and ask for a change in the tone.

    The headlines are negative and don’t portray what the real article says.

  40. did you guys see the article on http://www.mydd.com – talking about how the DNC, Gore, and others may meet to try to broker a deal to have Hillary serve as a senate majority leader – check it out, and post your comments, I think its the most bizzare idea!

  41. Indiana and North Carolina might be really important as for media contacts .. the race is 6 weeks away but the campaigns are there and Hillary needs good editorial and good reporting in both states.

  42. mj – I think more and more black, bi-racial people, other minorities will begin to speak out against this hate speech by Wright. But we are again in an environment of intimidation. It was the same back after 9/11 and people were afraid to speak out against war or in support of privacy rights. People like Pelosi, Kennedy etc think they are doing the country a service by promoting someone like Obama – that he will be able to heal the racial divide and move the country forward. However, they are losing sight of two important facts. One is he had little chance in my estimation of winning in the GE before the Wright revelation and now I don’t see how he wins in light of this new information. And he has used race in the most demeaning and negative way that has been so harmful that he has actually created more harm than good. It’s like he just keeps scratching and scratching at this blistering sore called race relations.

  43. tcbequalityactions, what I am referring to specifically is not Wright, but the notion that if BO is not the nominee we are a Party at war with itself. I don’t believe that. But, that’s the talking point. I was wondering how african americans here(clearly, not to generalize, but my thought is their perspective is more relevant than mine)felt about that, and if they thought some prominent african americans would call on people like Brazile to tone down the rhetoric.

  44. My love for Hillary continues to flow:

    The “Mad Money guy” Jim Cramer believes Hillary is the number one Presidential candidate on the economy because of her sophisticated understanding of how the economy works and that her call for and approach to stabilizing the housing market is completely correct.

    She’s been a voice for those voters that are disenfranchised by the caucus system. And she has been a voice to ensure that the voters of Florida and Michigan are not disenfranchised. Going back as far as the 1970s she worked to pass a Constitutional Amendment to allow young people 18-20 to vote. The Democratic Party has always stood (to the best of my knowledge) for making voting as accessible and easy as possible at the same time ensuring accuracy as much as possible. Now those in the Party that are arguing any thing different are on the wrong side of an issue that our Party has stood strong for in the past.

    Hillary Clinton knows how to harness talent and bring those that want to participate in solving America’s and the world’s problems to the table to actually have a conversation where people listen to one another and respect one another. This has been proven in reality many times during her adult life; in 1978 she chaired the Legal Service Corporation in President Carter’s administration that worked to give poor families across America access to legal aid, in the 1980’s she led her church to found the largest daycare in Arkansas, also in the 1980’s Hillary worked with Evan Bayh, Al Gore, and others to rejuvenate the Democratic Party from within, and in her role as U.S. Senator representing the state of New York she has reached out across the aisle to improve and ensure veteran’s rights and benefits.

  45. mj – I understand now that you were making a different point. Interesting how people read their own thoughts into things. However my point is still valid – intimidation has been a consistent theme in this election; at the caucuses, black on black, fear of being labeled a racist if you have a different opinion, and so on.

  46. Nikki, Carby, Idunn, any thoughts on what I asked you?

    MJ, I was pondering how to respond to your question, but I don’t think I really understand what you are asking. Try again, and just ask in plain language. 😉

  47. mj,
    I don’t buy the civil war notion either. Look I just think that once BO proved he could win white voters with his Iowa victory he was going to get the majority of the black vote. I know we on this board don’t like him or think he’s qualified, but for a while the average democrat liked both Hillary and Obama. Hillary consistently gets like 80%+ favorability ratings with black voters. Yes, BO has really die hard black and white supporters who will throw a fit if he isn’t nominated. But if Hillary has the popular vote by the convention & gets put over the top by the supers that is completely fair. I don’t see mass defections from HRC in the GE.

  48. Sorry for the late reply but I just got on line. It is Monday morning in Beijing which is 12 hours ahead of EST.

    basil9

    Hi. I think that membership in an organization can be legally determined by many factors and not just signing something. Probably other aspects, like attending on a regular basis for 20 years, participating in rituals etc. could be convincing enough in a court of law or the court of public opinion. Membership is probably defined in the church by-laws which is a public record. If you write to the church and request a copy, they have to send you one. It’s the law.

    I liked the stuff you wrote. We need to keep the focus on his belonging to a racist organization. Whatever we can do to make this point will help Americans see the truth of this issue. The other side will do what it can to change the focus to just the sermons of Dr. Wright. Let’s keep going on this. Thanks so much.

    Fran

    Hi and thanks for your support on this issue too. I am sorry that I can not log on to your site from China. Ever heard of the “Great Chinese Fire Wall?” The Chinese government blocks lots of sites. It especially hates any site that has the word blog in the address line like yours (the censorship of foreign sites will get worse now that there are problems with the Tibet). So I could only access you blog via my proxy server which does not allow me to log on to a site. Can only read stuff. Sorry. I can not oblige your request to re-post my entry on your blog. Can someone else on this blog do it for me? Thanks. Sorry for the bother. Again, thanks Fran for your support on this issue. SOMEONE WHO BLEONGS TO A RACIST ORGANIZATION CAN NOT BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

    Dear others,

    My remark in an earlier post about Obama needing to increase his security detail was a sincere one. I only have political differences with Senator Obama and no personal ones. I don’t want any harm to come to him or his family. Any attack on his person would be a tragedy to the nation of the first degree. The NRA spends lots of money to make sure just about any nut can buy a gun. Since we have a history of political assassinations the government has a responsibility to protect him. Hence the need to up his security detail. We can be mad at him for now but we should still love him too. And pray for his protection.

    Note: Obama’s attendance at his church is guaranteed by the US Constitution. People are free to even attend Nazi and Klan meetings if they want to. But SOMEONE WHO BLEONGS TO A RACIST ORGANIZATION CAN NOT BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

  49. so will tomorrow be a good day for Hillary? Now that Obama plans to go on a all-time full assault on Hillary

  50. Does anyone know of a very well thought of AA minister that could speak up to bring folks back together? I have been trying to find one that has been speaking out against the hateful rhetoric in the speeches and bring some perspective to this situation.

    With so many AA’s defending Wright, and ministers complaining out about Obama “distancing himself” from his pastor, it leaves an impression that all AA ministers agree with this approach and most AA’s go along with his perspective. I know this isn’t true by some of the posts I’ve read here but I would love to see someone out there condemning this divisiveness and promoting unity.

  51. Ok, Donna Brazile is running around saying there is a civil war in the Party, and that the Clintons are at fault, and this is all on the issue of race. the talking point is aa’s won’t support her ever. I tend not to believe that, polling data suggests that is not true. But, I’m not african american. I know you can not generalize for everyone, but what do you think of what Brazile is saying? And, do you think any african americans, will come forward to tell her to tone it down?

  52. Thanks, Nikki. My father who is a non-practicing polical scientist said exactly this:
    nikki22 Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
    mj,
    Look I just think that once BO proved he could win white voters with his Iowa victory he was going to get the majority of the black vote.

  53. I wish a 527 would go ahead and produce the Jeremiah Wright ads we are sure to see in the fall if Obama is nominated. Go ahead and finish him off now. I’d rather have my pain sooner than later.

  54. re: justmeinmountdorafl

    It’s hard to argue with the suggestion that Clinton is one of the most polarizing figures in recent American political history. This would make FDR-style consensus governing a tricky task for her as President, but would be irrelevant as Senate Majority Leader. Her record as a Senator certainly suggests she would excel in the position. She has done an excellent job of reaching across the aisle to get things done, wooed over thousands of hostile upstate voters (including members of my own family), and learned the ropes from former Majority Leader and anti-war Dem Robert Byrd. Way back in November 2006, Joshua Green wrote in the Atlantic Monthly,

    It seems to me that her Senate record would also be very useful in the position that she is currently seeking.

    It would be hard to make the same argument for Obama – that he has done an excellent job of reaching across the aisle to get things done. He hasn’t gotten anything done (pardon my english). Think about it: would anyone want Obama as Senate Majority Leader? He’d actually have to get things done instead of making speeches all day.

  55. mj,
    To your second point about AAs speaking out: I think Hillary should have her black supporters and surrogates out there making her case. HRC has some really impressive AA supporters- Dr. Calvin Butts, Vernon Jordan, Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Magic Johnson, Quincy Jones, David Paterson, Maya Angelou, Michael Nutter, Maxine Waters etc. I think she should utilize them more to push back when BO tries to play the race card. I love seeing Maxine and Stephanie chew out some of these clueless pundits.

  56. Nikki

    What you wrote touched me, and I feel a lot like you. I know you don’t know my personal story, but I was born in the deep south USA, family came from Ireland, so I had a thick Irish accent and dressed funny we were poor. I was shunned, made fun of and taunted by white southerners,. I spent hours in front of the mirror trying to make my mouth move and talk like everyone else did. My first and only friend was a young black girl named jeanette. And I was called names for having her as a friend. We got on well because we were “both” different and we “both” accepted each other as we were. I then lived in New Orleans for a while an all our neighbours were Black, I felt at home there because we were all different and we were all poor and I was loved and cared for by the black family next door when my Mum was at work.. Now, later in my life there was the Irish struggle for civil rights, it was much the same here as in America. People here created the Northern Ireland Civil Rights Assoc and we saw Dr Kings Selma march on the news and copied it here, people sang “we shall overcome” but they only knew those few words, it was inspiring and we loved Dr King here, even today you can see his face painted on some buildings here. Irish people were beaten horribly on that march (and many many more) but at the same time people were inspired and that was the beginning of the civil rights movement in N Ireland. So all my life I looked forward to seeing a black president as well. Like you, I was torn at first, I liked Obama because of my strong convictions for racial equality, yet I knew the Clintons, what they did for us here in Ireland. I remember just how really bad it was here and in America (Georgia), even now I cant believe the awful things I witnessed, sometimes I marvel at what I’ve seen in my life so far. But I had to end up supporting Hillary because I knew how bad off the world was and with Hillary I knew Bill’s wisdom and intelligence would be there AND combined with hers, that combo made me feel safer for the future of this world of ours. I had hoped so much in the beginning that the DNC would play it smart with these two people, give it to Hillary now with Obama VP and when she finished he’d get the next 8 years so we Dems would get 16 years to un-screw the mess that exists from Bush. Sadly, when I saw the first you tube video sent out from Obamas people , the 1984 one I knew the jig was up, since then It has appalled me to no end the use of the race card by Obama’s people. It became predictable, before primaries. Then this wright thing. Its too much… I lived outside of Atlanta in 1960’s and I loved Dr King, he gave me hope for America and Ireland. I believe he would never approve of what is taking place now. Like him, I too have dreamed his dream. I am so hurt inside, because For the FIRST time in my 52 year old life I feel “white” and I hate it, Obama did that to me,he made me feel white, and for that I can never forgive him

  57. I am referring to specifically is not Wright, but the notion that if BO is not the nominee we are a Party at war with itself. I don’t believe that.

    I don’t think we are there yet, no. But could it go that way along racial lines? I don’t know. I know VERY few people AA’s who would vote McCain if it came down to choosing either him or HRC alone. BUT, when people (Obama, Brazile, Sharpton, etc.) make it about color, AA voters might be inclined to take an “us against them” view of things. Would they vote McCain? I doubt it. Would they make a conscious choice not to vote at all? I think some would, yes.

    and if they thought some prominent african americans would call on people like Brazile to tone down the rhetoric.

    I SINCERELY hope so. Because my honest opinion is that the ONLY people making this about color, are the ones who are backing Obama. For them, it’s a political tool…for the majority of the rest of us people of color, it’s about not allowing an election to be stolen from a black man simply because he IS black. If BO and Co. keep crying foul on the race issue, whether it’s true or isn’t (and in my opinion, it isn’t), they will convince many AA’s that it is true. THEN we have a problem. Let’s be honest here…no party elders can tell HRC to tone down the racial stuff, because she isn’t doing it. So it’s time they start laying down the law with BO, because if he keeps this shit up, we’ll lose the GE no matter WHO the nominee is.

    Just my opinion.

  58. Merrimack–

    Interesting you shouldmention FDR. He has been considered the most polarizing figure in American history. Went through Clinton rules politics for 4 terms in office. Intersting, no?

  59. Where was Barack the first Sunday after 9/11? That shouldn’t be too hard a thing to figure out. Most religious people were in church that Sunday because we all needed comfort. Brian Ross, Jake Tapper, someone can find this out. Hell, I’m a nobody, and I can look at my calendar and plane tickets going back years and figure out where I was.

  60. Birdgal @ 8:45: the Obama campaign and the U.S. media have portrayed a very accomplished woman, a former First Lady, and current Senator as a pariah. This so shameful.
    _________________________________________
    The reason Obama is escalating this conflict is because he thinks he can stampede the superdelegates into ending the race before Hillary captured the popular vote. Brazille is functioning as his Tokyo Rose.

    In game theory this ploy is known as protection racket–pay me not to burn down your house. The Peter Dao article calls the game on this and I expect the campaign will share it with every superdelegate who supports Hillary or is uncommited. If a civil war is to ensue it must be clear who fired on Fort Sumpter and who the traitors to the party and country are.

    he has manufactured by lining up behind him. In the south side of Chicago this is called a protection racket. Pay me not to burn down your house.

  61. Thanks, Idunn. My belief is Hillary will run with an african american, though maybe not BO. Do you think that will help? It’s my sincere belief that is where we are heading.

  62. Merrimack, you’ve got to be kidding me. FDR consensus style governing? The Roosevelts were very polarizing. They were detested by Republicans. He passed his programs because he had a strong D-Congress.

  63. Here’s a little background on Ayres:

    Obama is well acquainted with 1960’s leftist radical William Ayers of the militant and violent Weather Underground, who claimed responsibility for bombing the Capital building and the Pentagon. Ayres admitted to the bombings but could not be prosecuted because of procedural failings. These speeches, coupled with Obama’s association with William Ayers of the Weather Underground stirs apprehension in some quarters that some kind of an internal leftist coup is in process.

    Ayres fully admitted to participating in the bombings of the New York Police Headquarters in 1970, The U.S. Capitol building in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972.

    On September 11, 2001, the New York Times quoted him as finding “a certain eloquence in bombs.” Did he regret what he had done all those years ago? “We didn’t do enough,” said Ayres.

    Under the category of “You’ve got to be kidding”, William Ayers is now a “Distinguished” Professor of Education and University Scholar at the University of Illinois.

    Who could blame Americans for being a little uneasy about Obama?

    Ayres and Obama served as directors of the Woods Foundation that figured in grants made to Chicago area Palestinian groups.

  64. Birdgal @ 8:45: the Obama campaign and the U.S. media have portrayed a very accomplished woman, a former First Lady, and current Senator as a pariah. This so shameful.
    _________________________________________
    The reason Obama is escalating this conflict is because he thinks he can stampede the superdelegates into ending the race before Hillary captured the popular vote. Brazille is functioning as his Tokyo Rose.

    In game theory this ploy is known as protection racket–pay me not to burn down your house. The Peter Dao article calls the game on this and I expect the campaign will share it with every superdelegate who supports Hillary or is uncommited. If a civil war is to ensue it must be clear who fired on Fort Sumpter and who the traitors to the party and country are.

  65. Get on board the Hillary love train:

    She’s gone out onto the wicked world and slain a dragon or two and looked fabulous doing it. Think of that moment when she walked into the President’s State of the Union address in that power red suit as comfortable and confident as ever; or when she went in bright yellow to speak to the State of the Black Union with nothing but love in heart – political courage draped around her neck like an understated strand of pearls.

  66. I am really beat tonight.

    Two diaries in one day is one too many.

    Thanks to all who traveled about and recommended or commented.

    I really like Peter Daou’s call to arms. It’s time for bloggers like us to put the kaboche on this idea that Obama hasn’t been negatively campaigning. If you travel over to mydd to see the Peter Daou story there–all the links are live now to all the hateful, negative stuff the Obama campaign has been spewing about Hillary.

    Daou has issued a call to arms. Let’s answer and prove once and for all that Negative is what Obambi has been doing from the beginning.

  67. I received this e-mail. some of you might be interested:

    Thank you for signing the Florida Count the Vote petition. Please forward it to everyone:
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    I am asking for your help again. Please read this email, and then pass it on to others.
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    No Obama-bashing allowed; entries will be removed. This site is about sharing the reasons Hillary is the BEST choice for President. If you want to compare her record vs. his, great; but no ’attack mode’ entries.

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    You can tell people, quickly, why you voted for her (one entry per person) through the Quick Note Form (email address required for possible publishing consent):
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    The Blog also has an event calendar. Use the ‘comment’ link on this post to tell me about any Hillary events:
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    Take Care, Sharon – hillary-clintons-voice.com
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  68. I don’t think our party will ever be the same it is going to take a long time for some to heal and the last 2 times that we went to the floor split it didn’t come out well . I know that AA and women have always been faithful to the Party and thats why I wonder what Kennedy and Kerry were thinking and Majority Leader for Hillary seems out of the Question to me.And at this point I think he has a snow balls chance in Hell in the GE

  69. re: rickroberts

    That was a quote from a site link. I don’t know how to quote blocks here but I should set off the quote and my response a bit better.

  70. Thanks, Idunn. My belief is Hillary will run with an african american, though maybe not BO. Do you think that will help? It’s my sincere belief that is where we are heading.

    I pray that if she does choose an african american vp that it isn’t BO, because I’d have a VERY hard time accepting him on any ticket. But to answer your question: if there is an african american that she feels is qualified (I could pick several for her btw) I think that would go a long way in repairing some of the damage BO and Co. have done to the party. I’d certainly welcome it, provided her choice wasn’t a sleazy, lying , snake oil salesman. 🙂

  71. “The reason Obama is escalating this conflict is because he thinks he can stampede the superdelegates into ending the race before Hillary captured the popular vote. Brazille is functioning as his Tokyo Rose.”

    I agree with this statement but I think it goes a step farther. Obama is scared to death that the Wright situation is going to kill his ambitions. He is willing to do whatever he can to get the media off his back and right back onto hers. He is the one who will do anything to win the election!

  72. Idunn
    it’s so ad now that she probably would have to pick him and the DNC would put manners on him, make him tell his supporters he was happy with this and if they supported him then support the ticket, I jsut dont see a way out other than this sadly, it’s gone so far now the division all due to obama, i believe it is the only real solution.

  73. experience-matters-vote-hillary, I disagree. May be true for his far left supporters, but for other african americans, I don’t think that is true.

  74. Obama attended Hate America sermon when Wright preached Hate of America

    newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_hate_America_sermon/2008/03/16/80870.html

    Obama lied again

  75. experience-matters-vote-hillary: Wow! Your story is very powerful. You should be sending it out everywhere. It could really help wake people up.

  76. Guys, I’m feeling so frustrated over this Wright thing. I’m afraid media are sweeping it under the rug. Somebody besides the Clinton campaign really needs to go nuclear on it. I hate to sound so mean, but this is the future of our country we’re talking about here.

  77. mj

    I hope you are right, but this has gone so far off track racially that it might be the case. DNC cant be seen to screw AA’s and they cant have people in the streets and black members walking out. #
    mabye wright will save us from all this by destroying obamas chance at anything

  78. Very nice post Nikki.

    I just wish our AA sisters and brothers could tell the nation what we can do to remove the scars caused by so many hurts. I am in a mixed marriage, one white, one Asian. Every race has a bit of pride. This is only being human. But the kind of racism displayed by Dr. Wright reveals some deep pain here. After the dust has settled, I hope this entire episode has allowed us to at least to be reminded there is some serious work still be done on race relations. And I sincerely believe that only Hillary Clinton, being a woman, a mom, is the one to begin this healing. This is a woman’s job.

    Funny thing, when Americans are living overseas, no matter what color, religion, or whatever, they realize how much in common they have, how close they are compared to non-Americans. We have over the few hundred years of our history forged our own American identity through blood and tears that is shared by all. God bless America and not God D***n America. Thanks Nikki for sharing.

  79. paddy: Funny thing, when Americans are living overseas, no matter what color, religion, or whatever, they realize how much in common they have, how close they are compared to non-Americans.

    Excellent point.

    It’s not really race “relations”. It’s rooting out systemic, institutional racism, and Hillary plans to address this. I think she will, and I think the country is ready to, finally.

  80. Well, my first pick would be Wes Clark. Can’t help it, I adore him. Maybe we could dig through his background and discover some AA in there. 😉

    Harold Ford would be a good choice. I know some people would disagree with that, but I’m a fan. 🙂

  81. Eugene Miller for VP any day. Love that man.

    Another good choice.

    The problem though, is that she needs military cred from her vp. We need an AA Wes Clark. 🙂

  82. rick roberts: FOX is covering the Wright story, and they don’t seem to be dropping it.

    Wbboei: Thanks for the feedback. Old Chicago-style politics has been the name of his campaign. It is very hypocritical. By throwing everything at her next week, is a good diversionary technique to take the focus away from Wright.

  83. BTW, I went to that link about the majority leader rumor and a post about Michael Kinsley came up instead, lol.

  84. Idunn Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
    Eugene Miller for VP any day. Love that man.

    Another good choice.

    The problem though, is that she needs military cred from her vp. We need an AA Wes Clark.

    Well, no one will like this but I had thought ultimate unity with Colin Powell. She has two prominent AA general’s supporting her. Maybe one of them.

  85. mj

    paddy4hill

    what you say has some truth. During this election I do feel very isolated here, because I was born in america and i love both countries so much. I dont know any americans here, just you guys online

    This election is more than important for america, it’s important for the world:)

  86. All the more reason to get your story out there experience-matters-vote-hillary. I went and had lunch yesterday with two friends that are just remotely interested in politics compared to me. They understood full well what was going on. That told me that the people are smarter than the media and the DNC. Hillary is going to win this. Just you wait and see. Not everyone has spoken yet.

  87. The military creds wouldn’t hurt Hil, but we must remember the most important facet of VP qualifications.

    Ready on day two.

  88. SpacegirlArt Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
    The military creds wouldn’t hurt Hil, but we must remember the most important facet of VP qualifications.

    Ready on day two.

    That’s why the military creds are important, to a large extent, IMO.

  89. Well, no one will like this but I had thought ultimate unity with Colin Powell

    Love Powell, but he’s got WAY too much Bush baggage now. Can’t go there.

  90. justmein: FORWARD THAT STORY to every news site, blog, and campaign official available. (ON Hillary’s team and McCain’s team)

    I’d love to see Obama stuttering about this in the next debate.

  91. I think Powell would be good. He would be seen as a Bushie by the right wing and he is also remembered fondly for disagreeing with and finally quitting the Bush administration over Bush and Cheney’s stances in the middle east by the left wing 😀

  92. The military creds wouldn’t hurt Hil, but we must remember the most important facet of VP qualifications.

    Ready on day two.

    Yep, and that’s what would hurt Ford in the vp slot. 🙁

  93. mj – I haven’t bought the argument she needs a military VP. She can get all kinds of military support through cabinet positions and the American people know that. I think Americans are more flexible with her on VP choices.

  94. tcbequalityactions Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    Oh I hope she will win this somehow, but it is bound to be messy either way. I jsut hope the DNC sees the light and gives up on their creation before it gest much worse for the country. we will see, it may take them time to see the wright stuff wont go away and it mustnot go away!!

  95. The thing that’s frustrating for me is that there are so many more important things to talk about when it comes to race relations in this country and a hell of a lot more important issues facing african americans. There’s black on black crime, failing schools, disparity in the prison sentences w/ respect to crack v. cocaine, the alarming school drop out rates for young blacks and hispanics. And yet hours of airtime is spent on Bo and these faux scandals.

  96. I trust Hillary can win the General Election regardless of Bambi’s actions now…unless he says something EXTREMELY lethal and false about her.

    However, many people will still yell at Hillary if she is the nominee and doesn’t pick obama…UNLESS there is enough HOUSEHOLD NAME type baggage to the lengths of how Monica Lewinsky and Swiftboating are now commonly known…to erupt the Obama nuisance. In that event that his flaws can be widely publicized by larger extents than they are now…THEN, Hillary can say, without fear of losing voters, that she will not be having BO as the nominee.

  97. Idunn Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
    I think she needs the military cred ONLY to stack up against McCain.

    Yes, but the election question is c in c, and her VP needs those creds as well. i still think Ford works in this regard. He’s a very practiced politican. I think that’s likely. Remember that school in Virginia who has a great track record predicting elections forsaw Clinton/Ford a coupls of months back.

  98. I’m not thrilled with Powell either. I think it’s because he has been advising Obambi. Maybe if he hadn’t done that AND lied to the U.N. (was it?) about wmds (was it?) I might be more open to him. I’d rather see some real new blood in her VP choice. That’s why Miller or Tubbs-Jones excite me.

  99. paddy4Hill Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
    expeirence-matters-vote-hillary

    are you wearing green today?

    >>>>>>>>>>.

    LOL it’s 2AM im in my pajamas LOLOL
    but I will when I get up in a fwe hours tho!! we have the parade today here and everyone wears shamrocks, real ones tho, we take them out of the pot , wrap the roots in tin foil and pin them on our shirts, you wont see anyone without it today:)

  100. nikki22 Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
    The thing that’s frustrating for me is that there are so many more important things to talk about when it comes to race relations in this country and a hell of a lot more important issues facing african americans. There’s black on black crime, failing schools, disparity in the prison sentences w/ respect to crack v. cocaine, the alarming school drop out rates for young blacks and hispanics. And yet hours of airtime is spent on Bo and these faux scandals.

    Yep. Institutional, systemic racism. Hill has plans to address a number of those issues, and I fully expect her to.

  101. I agree with everything you wrote, Nikki. Up until the last line. I think these things coming to light about BO are fair game. What irritates me is that he chose to run before people really knew him. OF COURSE we were gonna vet him. Did he think we wouldn’t? The issues that matter are being buried because we’re all having to spend so much time digging to discover just who the hell this guy is. It’s stupid. He couldn’t have gotten a few more years of seasoning under his belt…started letting people know who he was and what he stood for…given us all some concrete accomplishments to look to, BEFORE he launched himself for the most important job in the world??

  102. JAS

    I am sure Fox has something up their sleeve. Obama was a fool to deny ever hearing Wright’s hate mantra in person. Just the tone of the questions Obama was asked on Fox during that interview was like he was on the witness stand being set up by a prosecutor for a perjury charge. Fox either has or thinks they have something on him. It wouldn’t surprise me if they waited 4 weeks to drop the fatal bomb shell right before PA.

  103. Remember that school in Virginia who has a great track record predicting elections forsaw Clinton/Ford a coupls of months back.

    You mean Washington-Lee? I knew they picked HRC in the mock convention, but II didn’t know about Ford. I’ll have to look that up. 🙂

  104. ADMIN: Please post GREEN-DAY MONEY BOMBARD for TOMORROW – Let’s send Hillary Irish Luck!

    It’ll be the day of DONATION!

  105. Well, expeirence-matters, have a very nice day. Don’t forget it is the American tradition that we are all Irish today. So I will wear some green too, not that many here will understand. It makes me feel more American than Irish. Isn’t it true that in Ireland Paddy is not a girl’s name but a boy’s? Funny (for me at least).

  106. RJK, If Fox is smart, they will publicize and widely circulate Obama’s statements that he has NEVER personally witness Wright’s divisive comments…and try to put a good light on him….and then BAM hit him and quickly and massively publicize any evidence, video, photo, witnesses, etc that they have of Obama BEING IN THE PEWS during the Wright hate speeches.

    That would be the best path and way to go for them.

  107. watch OBama’s excuse if he IS found to have been in the pews? LOL

    “I was asleep during that one sentence I think..a.nd cannot recall it…”
    “That must be another barack Obama”
    “I pushed the wrong button…” lol

  108. Obama was a fool to deny ever hearing Wright’s hate mantra in person.

    You could have just stopped at “Obama is a fool.” Because honestly, that’s MY biggest issue with him.

  109. I also like Powell. He argued against the war and said we should only go in if we had an exit plan (which we didn’t). Bush hung him out to dry at the UN. Sucks. I would have voted for him when they were floating his name as presidential candidate.

  110. Yep, idunn, I agree. He does a lot of politically stupid things, IMO. He should have built a record in the Senate, and given up that church when Oprah did.

  111. Powell COULD’VE beent he first Black nominee and president. Instead…they are trying to stuff Bam Bam down our throats. O_o

  112. Me too, HillBilly. The reason he didn’t get nominated by the dumbass Repub’s is because he believes in affirmative action. They blew a huge opportunity there.

  113. experience-matters-vote-hillary Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
    yep it’s nice but your shirt gets a bit dirty LOL

    you wont see any one without one tomorrow, you buy them in tiny pots, in grocery stores on the corner shops all over

    How sweet! Sounds like something in a novel.

  114. Obama doesn’t appear to ever have on original thought, and never speaks an original word.

    Speaking of which, I’d be happier voting for Deval Patrick than Obama. I actually LIKE Deval…althought, he’s not qualified either. 🙂

  115. I don’t think a Hillary nomination will split the Dem party. The only people who are going around saying stuff like that are rabid Obama supporters like Donna Brazille. I cannot imagine African-Americans in impoverished urban areas like Detroit voting for the Republicans. Hillary and her campaign will have to work a little harder to get AAs to the polls in November and she’ll need the support of local AA politicians. But these folks know what’s at stake here. Everybody is terrified of another four (or eight) years of Bush-like economic policies. That’s the bottom line.

    I would like to think that Obama would be gracious when defeated and that he would use his oratorical skills to unite the Democrats and mobilize AA and young voters. Maybe he’d only do it for the sake of his own future political career, but it would help. At the very least, I hope he won’t whine or act like a sore loser.

  116. Idunn,
    I wasn’t talking about the Wright stuff and the vetting of BO that’s finally taking place. I was refering more to the fake outrage in the media about HRC’s comments re LBJ and MLK or when the big dawg compared Obama’s win to Jesse Jackson.

  117. GOOD SpacegirlArt 😀

    I think we should start sending that story out to some of Obama’s superdelegates…particularly that fat back-stabbing bastard Ted Kennedy and his horse-faced anorexiz twin, Kerry. 😡

    Let’s distribute that story to EACH AND EVERYONE of Bam Bam’s superdelegates and then ask whether they would like their names dragged down in the mess? 😀

  118. OMG SPACEGIRL ART!!!

    :bow:

    WE NEED TO TAKE THIS ONE AND RUN WITH IT. I WANT TO SEE RADIO ADS, ONLINE ADS, CHAIN MAIL, NEWS COVERAGE, MAGAZINE COVERS, AND NEWSPAPER COVERS COVERING BAM BAM IN THE PEWS. EVERYWHERE.

  119. EMVHH yes!

    then some supporter said “look, he has gone there for twenty years. I am sure that someone will dig up a tape or a story showing him the in the church, then the story will be he was lying. Look, he probably doesn’t even remember all the times he has been there. I am really outraged by the story”

  120. I wasn’t talking about the Wright stuff and the vetting of BO that’s finally taking place. I was refering more to the fake outrage in the media about HRC’s comments re LBJ and MLK or when the big dawg compared Obama’s win to Jesse Jackson.

    Don’t forget the Obama pic in the somali toilet paper get up. 😉

  121. he is brown bread dead

    LMAO! This HAS to be some quaint irish expression. What on earth does it mean? And where did it come from?

  122. A thought… Is there a private school affiliated with Rev. Wright’s church? If so, have the Obama girls ever attended school there? I hope not, for their sake. They’re adorable little girls and the idea of those two living in the White House as First Daughters is the only thing about an Obama presidency that I can stomach. But if they are, or have been, educated in a school run by Wright or someone like him, that would REALLY make voters shake in their boots.

  123. “The idea that you can merchandise candidates for high office like breakfast cereal – that you can gather votes like box tops – is… the ultimate indignity to the democratic process.”

    ~Adlai Stevenson, speech, Democratic National Convention, 18 August 1956

  124. I am personally outraged too. As an American, I expect my President and future President to at least be patriotic and have pride and vision for the country. The kind of vision and pride that Barack Obama and his good two-decade long friend, Reverend Wright, CLEARLY lack. Anyone who stilil supports these two anti-white, anti-American, anti-freedom, and pro-division public figures should not call themselves American any longer.

  125. Rob Parsley is a nut case too. (McCains guy)

    Looks like Hils boring Methodist minister is the only good guy!

  126. Lots of AA women at the volunteer sites here in pgh and lots at the saint patty’s day parade with thier children. mostly young white guys with bambi signs. and very big mouths.

  127. Idunn, you have got to take it on the road. You are laugh out loud funny. You’re a riot!!!

    Nikki, thanks for your insightful comments. You make a lot of sense.

  128. MJS, I sent it to at least six producers at both, the presidents of both and some talking heads at both

    they cannot say they did not know

  129. It looks like financial stuff will be in the news tomorrow. JPMorgan is buying out Bear Stearns for $2 (they were $160 a year ago) a share, the stock market futures are down pretty big, the dollar is down to new lows and Japan is down three percent. And the Fed cut commercial bank discount rates a quarter point today. I can’t ever recall a rate cut on a weekend. I have no idea as to what will happen in the morning but if the rest of the year is like this, Americans will be screaming for experience and policy expertise.

    It’s too bad that the next debate is so far away. Obama would be playing Wright defense while Hillary could show her positives on the economy.

  130. send this story to ALL of the local news organizations in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Indiana, Florida, Michigan, and add Illinois there too 😀 (to get rid of him as my Senator in the future 😉

    We must not give Bambi an inch! We must FORCE him into a corner and have to defend every single word of his 😀 even if HIllary’s team is not doing the vetting this time 😀

  131. Idunn Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
    Obama doesn’t appear to ever have on original thought, and never speaks an original word.

    Speaking of which, I’d be happier voting for Deval Patrick than Obama. I actually LIKE Deval…althought, he’s not qualified either.

    Deval’s my Governor. I was totally in the hopium with him. He has yet to prove himself a good Governor yet, but he’ll get there. However, he is far more selfless than Obama. He’s not an ego guy. He will need to distance himself from Trinity first, though, I think. 😉

  132. But really, let’s leave the girls out of it.

    Absolutely agree. They should be left out of the conversation here entirely.

  133. U guys are so lucky 😡

    When Obama loses the nomination, u’ll likely never hear from him again…but he’ll still be my senator from Illinois here grr 😡

  134. MJS Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
    U guys are so lucky

    When Obama loses the nomination, u’ll likely never hear from him again…but he’ll still be my senator from Illinois here grr
    >>>>>>>>>>>

    You poor thing!! But think of it, you get to see him every day looking rejected as the old !has been” or “almost ran” please send pitiful photos to us so we can share:)

  135. MJS you should see those people who Obama supposedly represented and see how they feel about Obama esp with neglecting to upgrade the living situation and what their thoughts are

  136. SpacegirlArt Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
    I had a crush on Marsha

    and Mighty Mouses Girlfriend Nell
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    OMG I hated the mousekateers, that show as as bad as Captian Kangaroo , although I did like Mr Green jeans and bunny rabbit ROFL

  137. Kennedy, BB, Dean, Kerry, Obama…another one in the string of losers in the DNC

    (I know Gore is here too, but he didn’t lose)

  138. I went on MYDD and read Peter Daou’s Challenge post. It was great and as I read down I was enjoying the comments for a change they had great back and forth for Hillary and then I came across this comment. Now I am a believer Hillary’s my gal but I didn’t know this story and my guess there a lot of others who don’t. So I’m going to post it as it was on MYDD Please read on it’s a fantastic story of Hillary:
    I’m pretty sanguine about the fact that politics is politics. I wish everyone would accept this, and drop the “holier than thou” narrative that Obama has tried to take the high road all along, while that awful Hillary has been running the gutter campaign to end all gutter campaigns. In fact, way back in Iowa, it was the other candidates who mounted an all-out attack on Hillary’s integrity while she focused on staying positive and emphasizing how the overriding goal was to beat the Republicans in November.

    But sometimes, even though politics is politics, there are things that you just can’t quite get past. Here is one of them:

    Today, as Axelrod basks in his profession’s highest glory — shaping a historical presidential campaign — he is experiencing one of its nastiest turns: in a tiny and ideologically promiscuous world, you often need to go to war with your friends. (If Obama hadn’t run, Axelrod says, he would have sat out this presidential race, and he says he told all of his other former clients that early on; he hasn’t had much interaction with them since.) There is Dodd, and there is Edwards, but perhaps most poignantly, there is Hillary Clinton. It’s a matter of epilepsy. David and Susan Axelrod have three children in their late teens and early 20s. Their eldest, Lauren, has developmental disabilities associated with chronic epileptic seizures and now lives in a group home in Chicago. But for years her illness required enough of her parents’ time that it kept Susan Axelrod out of the work force and kept David from moving to Little Rock during the 1992 presidential campaign. Susan and two other mothers of children with epilepsy started a foundation, Citizens United for Research in Epilepsy (CURE), which Susan runs, to promote research and raise funds for a cure. Because of David’s political work, they have had political celebrities do fund-raisers: Bill Clinton, Tim Russert, Obama. But few have done as much for the foundation as Hillary Clinton.

    It was January 1999, President Clinton’s impeachment trial was just beginning in the Senate and Hillary Clinton was scheduled to speak at the foundation’s fund-raiser in Chicago. Despite all the fuss back in Washington, Clinton kept the appointment. She spent hours that day in the epilepsy ward at Rush Presbyterian hospital, visiting children hooked up to machines by electrodes so that doctors might diagram their seizure activity and decide which portion of the brain to remove. At the hospital, a local reporter pressed her about the trial in Washington, asked her about that woman. At the organization’s reception at the Drake Hotel that evening, Clinton stood backstage looking over her remarks, figuring out where to insert anecdotes about the kids. “She couldn’t stop talking about what she had seen,” Susan Axelrod recalled. Later, at Hillary Clinton’s behest, the National Institutes of Health convened a conference on finding a cure for epilepsy. Susan Axelrod told me it was “one of the most important things anyone has done for epilepsy.” And this is how politics works: David Axelrod is now dedicated to derailing this woman’s career.

    I just can’t manage to get my head around the fact that, after all Hillary Clinton has done for David Axelrod’s wife and daughter, Axelrod is now dedicated to portraying her as an unprincipled, dishonest, race-baiting bitch in order to win an election. Oh well, I hope he gets a good job in the Obama administration.

  139. My sister was ON Captain Kangaroo…and mom made her sahare her Colonial Creme Filled Cupcake with me and she was pissed

  140. @experience: I’ll be sure to do that 😀 but then again, the look on Michelle OBama’s face should amuse us for days on end 😀

    @spacegirl: I hope so…but Obama will worm his way outta that one most likely, =/

    @mj: My sympathies 🙁 two pathetic, “has been” senators who both failed miserably while seeking the presidency. One popularizing the term “swift-boat” and the other forcing the retarded primary system we now have O_o

    @justmeinmountdorafl: they prbbly feel pretty damn awful, but then again, will prbbly blame it on someone else because of all the kool-aide Obama has been doling out.

    Eh…at least this election will give Bam Bam’s next opponent some ample dirt 😀

  141. wouldnt that be a good idea? To do a youtube video with people thta lives in the area where Obama represented in Illinois Senate to see how they feel knowing that Obama overlooked them with Reszo’s maipulation etc

  142. MJS, very funny. you made me laugh.

    Idunn Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
    Kiss my ass, ya’ll…I got stuck with (shudder) Bob Corker!

    Eww! Corker! Yuck!

  143. (this may not be for the squeamish or sensitive)

    I believe all of us who are behind Hillary probably feel bad one way or another that this election was wrongly affected by the machinations of Barack Obama. More so, that the people of America were.

    I have another point; this problem will live way past the ’08 election cycle. It will take years to repair the level of damage the entry of race has played in this campaign. I think it was a few people in here that said they will be looking at their relationships with AA’s somewhat differently now, wondering if deep inside their friends hold comparable views of the Rev. Wright. With some, there will not be any guessing.

    I am so angry at Barack Obama, his wife, and his associations for bringing this firestorm into this election, And I’m angry he told the black/AA community they were bamboozled, hoodwinked victims of America, for bringing anger to the ignorant whites and other people of color, who no doubt will spit the very venom of Rev. Wright back at every Black/AA.

    Do not dare call me racist! I have been working on civil rights in one way or another all my life. I am angry that a stupid ass egocentric black man has flushed years of work to right the wrongs of the past down the toilet.

    Spare me the song of his praises. The change he sought was to divide this country and he did just that. Hope for Change Mr. Obama? Well I damn well hope you change your fricken arrogance and get the hell out of this election.

  144. justmeinmountdorafl Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
    wouldnt that be a good idea? To do a youtube video with people thta lives in the area where Obama represented in Illinois Senate to see how they feel knowing that Obama overlooked them with Reszo’s maipulation etc

    Nah. These poor people have been overlooked by most politicans. I don’t think they would make that connection.

  145. SpacegirlArt Says:

    March 16th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
    My sister was ON Captain Kangaroo…and mom made her sahare her Colonial Creme Filled Cupcake with me and she was pissed
    >>>>>

    there you go talking about american food again DAMN you!! trying to make me suffer here

    what about moonpies they were nasty LOL

  146. Eww! Corker! Yuck!

    I just brush Corker under the rug. Our Governor is Phil Bredesen…and I heart him, so he’s all that matters to me. 🙂

  147. rjk1957 Says:
    March 16th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
    I am sure Fox has something up their sleeve. …. It wouldn’t surprise me if they waited 4 weeks to drop the fatal bomb shell right before PA.

    That might help us — but why would Fox WANT to help us? They wouldn’t rather run against HIllary after all this, would they?

  148. mj, I’ve driven past Obama’s district…and let me tell u, I wouldn’t feel comfortable making a Youtube video there…or really even stepping foot there….

    The state that Obama’s handling of that district has left it…*shudder*. It’s horrible. It’s truly a very slumy place with thugs and gangsters abound. People walking around with more tattoo than skin, with guns, knives, all sorts of stuff.

    I feel really terrible for this district. The way bambi and past politicians have handled it has been atrocious when within 5 miles, you have rich and glitzy Michigan Avenue and Navy Pier.

  149. Really, debbie? I don’t have any second guesses about my friends. Again, I think you are reading too much into this. I think Hill will run with an african american and the Party will celebrate it, and that person will likely be president in eight years. I do resent BO running without the resume.

  150. EMVH…moon pies are nasty still!

    LOL

    I have to hit the sack guys. It’s getting late. I really am having a hard time adjusting to the time change. I’ve been sleeping til 8am!

    maybe going to bed earlier will resolve this!

    y’all keep up the good fight. MtDora, send that link to the campaign either thru news or tips

    night gang

  151. Hasn’t Fox’s head, Rupert Murdoch, been on generally good terms with Hillary since she announced her bid?

  152. mj

    MJS

    there is a vidoe already made by some people who live in obamas district, I think I have it on one ofmy sites, it shows the terrible nieghbour hoods and how run down and poor it is, the fellow that made it was anti obama and lived there , ill see can i find it hang on

  153. Hey all, goodnight my friends,

    Be sure to light a candle, I think truly this and prayers swayed the way for Hillary!

    Think happy thoughts!

    Also donate some of those GREEN dollars tomorrow to wish Hillary luck on St. Patrick’s Day!

  154. Ok, but you can’t blame South Side Chicago on Obama. It’s been decades of neglect by several dozens of politicians.

  155. EMVH, i saw the video too, and the area is every bit as bad as the video shows it to be, if not worse. If I lived there, I would fear walking about anytime after 5:00 PM.

  156. mj, true, but Obama could’ve at least TRIED to help them? Look at how, say, Rudy Guliani (as much as I despise the man) helped lower the crime rate in NYC and such compared with Bam Bam’s handling of his district. Rudy had the second largest city in the country to handle and he handled it well. Obama was representing a small district that needed some well-funded programs, stricter police force, and more outer investment. Just providing these THREE things could’ve improved his district SO much more…but did he? No. He did the exact same lazy thing that politicans before him did.

  157. Actually, Rudy was extremely divisive and much like a facist in his efforts to lower crime. You want to know what resally lowered crime in NYC? COPS, and the demographic change in those years.

    But, yeah, BO was a slacker. I’m just saying it didn’t start or end with him.

  158. MJ, BO has consistenly been a slacker 🙁 that’s the disturbing part. If it was just in his representation of District 13, then fine…but this is a common thing with him.

  159. Yeah, MJS. I’ve said that. Hes almost 50 and has nor record of accomplishments for the people. Sure, personally, he’s written some books, but that doesn’t put food on anyones table aside his own.

  160. mj Says:
    March 16th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
    I think Hill will run with an african american and the Party will celebrate it, and that person will likely be president in eight years.

    Now, that’s a dream ticket!

  161. tim, I’m talking about age of residents, which over those years the young went down. COPS was implemented and crime rates in major cities went down overnight. Beat on the street.

  162. I just sent Nancy Pelosi an email telling her as a Party leader I expected her to remain neutral. I also told her that it looked like she needed some friendly reminding about why she should love Hillary. And gave her some good reasons. I am staying on top of these folks until they do the right thing.

  163. hey all…
    just logging in to repost my post on mydd regarding Peter Daou

    Barack Obama does not speak for me. He claims to be a different kind of politician but he is not. Pull back the curtain and you see that he is coldly calculating and deceptive. He is very good at it -but he does not offer a new kind of politics. From the lies and attacks he has put forth against Clinton from the begining of his campaign, to his shifting stance on Rezko and Wright, to his denials about NAFTA and even the cornerstone of his campaign- IRAQ, this man speaks with a silver forked tongue. He tells everyone one what they want to hear- in beautiful rhetorical language while doing exactly what he accuses others of behind the scenes. He won his first election to the state senate by having his opponent’s name taken off the ballot by contesting the nominating signatures. He won his senate seat by revealling his opponents divorce records. All the while financed by the slum landlord Rezko- I guess that’s his idea of community organizing.

    Who the hell is he to point a finger at Hillary Clinton? Where is the media? Why is SNL the ONLY outlet to see the transparent idiocy and comedy in this? Why is the media treating Hillary Clinton the way they treated Al Gore in 2000 and WHY is everyone buying it? Once again, the experienced knowledgable, tested candidate is deemed too boring, too nerdy, too unlikable.

    Hillary is not perfect. BUT, unlike Obama, Hillary does not pretend to be someone that she isn’t. She doesn’t put on airs as the new messiah. She doesn’t say change and hope and hope for change. She specifically explains what she has done, what she will do and why.

    The kids dont get it. Im not a believer, Im a thinking adult.

    Hillary Clinton speaks for me.

  164. Why would Fox try help Hill? Not so much to help Hill, but derail BHO.

    Just a hunch: think of what they think BHO is… An America-hating, Muslim-appeasing, trojan horse propped up by the far-left wing of the Democratic Party who they (Dean-Pelosi-Kennedy) hoped would slip past scrutiny.

    The thought of him somehow sitting in the OO is enough to make them vomit. They may not like BC and HRC for whatever personal reasons, but it sure isn’t for the reasons they *fear* BHO.

  165. Yeah, right, Debbie. Saying he’s a 50 year old man with no record of accomplishments for the people, and no resume for Pres. is really defending him. Indeed, my point to you wasn’t about BO at all.

  166. Have spent last couple of hours reading blog and listening to news. Here are thoughts on Obama/Democratic Party/Future:
    -Point needs to be stressed over and over and over that African-Americans, by supporting Obama, with a decidedly un-American name (Hussein) and a racist, hate-mongering pastor like Wright will ruin the hopes and aspirations for their entire race…………Think about it. There are fabulous African-American leaders who absolutely have what it takes to lead this country. They have integrity and HAVE LIVED THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE THEIR ENTIRE LIVES ON THE MAINLAND OF THIS COUNTRY. They are NOT filled with hate and rage,and do not want to further divide this country and set us all back fifty years. African-Americans really need to admit that Obama’s ties to Rezko and the Middle East, Wright and radical African-centered “Christian”churches will not result in a November victory. Coupled with Obama’s lack of experience, and VERY poor judgement -will mean a democratic defeat against McCain for sure. Obama is really not one of them after all. The DNC mistakenly thought his soaring rhetoric would compensate for his emptiness – they did not give the people of this country enough credit. The sooner they accept these facts, the sooner we can salvage a fractured Democratic Party and win in November.
    -The DNC must go through all the stages of grieving – denial – anger – bargaining and finally acceptance. When this has happened, suddenly Dean in all of his infinite wisdom, will SEE THE NEED TO SEAT THE DELEGATES THAT HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN. I’ve heard Obama say that his name wasn’t even on the ballot. That’s right. HE took it off. No they didn’t actively campaign in Florida, BUT OBAMA RAN ADS THERE ANYWAY. DEAN ET AL – SAVE THE COMMITTEE, THE STATES AND CONTRIBUTORS (BY NOT HAVING TO REFUND MILLIONS) MULTI-MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, SWALLOW YOUR DAMN PRIDE -ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE AND SEAT THE FRIGGIN’ DELEGATES!!!!!!!!!
    -Get the word out to Obama camp and MSM to not engage in full-scale Hillary assault. Let Obama know straight up that there is too much BAGGAGE and the DNC will not be alble to salvage his nomination.
    -Also, and this is extremely important, since like Tip O’Neill said – all politics are local: SD must abandon Obama quickly for the good of the party and their own viability. They represent us, and we care about them.
    -Finally, lovers of this country -Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are the winners, because nothing could have ever forced Democrats to switch to Fox, nor Republicans to realize the danger of a truly radical leftist and racist possible candidate like Obama. We come away realizing that, just like after 9/11 -when we were all just Americans, the hate-filled tirades from the Obama-mentor, radical Wright, that has sucker-gut-punched us and slapped us all in the face has made us once again – Black, White, Asian, Latino – realize that we have lapsed into a protectionist-mode and want to preserve Lady Liberty at all costs -even at the threat of once again, being labeled racist – and not allowing her good name to be hijacked and further ridiculed by the World.

  167. got fox on..rivera and juan on bashing bo his baggage is way to much from barack ob especially from wright.. per juan williams

  168. wagner1jc, fox has to vet BHO now. if they wait till BHO is nominee to vet him, they will be painted racist successfully by BHO camp which they don’t want.

  169. Don’t forget you can support Cindy Sheehan to replace Nancy Pelosi. She has her own website set up for contributions. This would be a good take down of the Pelosi – Kerry – Kennedy – Dodd group.

  170. OW Supports Senate Resolution Promoting Diversity in Media Ownership

    March 5, 2008

    Comments of NOW President Kim Gandy on legislation introduced today by Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) to reject Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations that would expand the ability of media conglomerates to increase their cross-ownership of multiple media outlets in a single community, reducing the diversity of local voices.

    At the National Organization for Women, which is the nation’s largest grassroots women’s rights organization, we are extremely concerned about the state of media today, particularly media ownership.

    Not a day goes by that women don’t call and write to us to express their frustration at what they see, hear and read in the media. They are outraged by sexist, racist, homophobic comments. They are disturbed by the high level of sexual exploitation and violence. They ask why more women experts aren’t featured on news and political talk shows. They are dismayed at the lack of substantive coverage of women’s issues. And they long for better role models for their daughters and sons.

    I believe this condition is a direct result of the lack of diversity in ownership Women own just five percent of commercial broadcast TV stations and six percent of all full-power radio stations. Whenever the FCC allows big media companies to gobble up more stations, it leaves fewer and fewer outlets for women and people of color to purchase. And often the big companies are buying stations from women and people of color.

    It is critical that we not let the FCC further relax its ownership rules. If the media giants grow even larger, women and people of color will suffer as their voices and viewpoints become even further marginalized. I applaud Sen. Dorgan for standing up for the people’s interests–not for making big business even bigger.

    NOW is calling on its members and all women’s rights supporters to write to their Senators today, urging them to vote ‘yes’ on the Senate resolution to reject the FCC’s disastrous new rules.

  171. MJS Says:
    March 16th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    However, many people will still yell at Hillary if she is the nominee and doesn’t pick obama…UNLESS there is enough HOUSEHOLD NAME type baggage to the lengths of how Monica Lewinsky and Swiftboating are now commonly known…to erupt the Obama nuisance. In that event that his flaws can be widely publicized by larger extents than they are now…THEN, Hillary can say, without fear of losing voters, that she will not be having BO as the nominee.

    Well, you see, that PROVES the whole Wright scandal is Hillary’s fault!!!! She knew when it was coming, so she DEVIOUSLY offered BO the VP spot FIRST, so he would reject it!

  172. ^ I would support Cindy but I worry she would be a thorn in Hill’s side. Sorry for her loss, of course, but I think she is unstable mentally, a loose cannon.

  173. wagner1jc – You can still support Cindy without to much worry that she will defeat Pelosi. The name of the game is to demonstrate power and make her have to work a little for her re-election. Every little thing helps.

  174. mj – See above. We need to apply pressure in any way we can. Cindy will not win against Pelosi. San Francisco is Obama country so they will not vote out Pelosi. However, we can put up a fight through Cindy.

  175. HERE IS A HILARIOUS POST FROM eripsote at LEFT COASTER:

    The Clinton Rules and The Obama Rules

    by eriposte
    One of the useful side-effects of the Jeremiah Wright brouhaha is its ample illustration of The Clinton Rules and The Obama Rules for this campaign. These rules are based on the Brilliant and Thought-Provoking JournalismTM of some of the major, allegedly, “progressive” blogs and the traditional media outlets that they have become extensions of (more on that here).

    Vastleft at Corrente is the inspiration for this post. Vastleft sarcastically says (emphasis mine):

    I’m beginning to develop a moral sense about this stuff, but it’s still kinda cloudy for me. For example, I know this to be true, but I don’t quite know why:

    If Obama gets the nomination and loses, it will be the fault of Hillary and her supporters. If Hillary gets the nomination and loses, it will be the fault of Hillary and her supporters.
    I am going to borrow Vastleft’s insightful observation to craft my version of The Clinton Rules (TCR) and The Obama Rules (TOR).

    A. The Clinton Rules (TCR)

    TCR 1.0. If anything bad happens to the Democrats in this campaign, it can and should be blamed on Hillary Clinton.

    TCR 2.0. Every statement of any supporter or surrogate of Hillary Clinton is a reflection of Hillary Clinton’s personal views or directives.

    COROLLARY to TCR 2.0: Statements by any supporter or surrogate of Hillary Clinton that might cast her in poor light are most definitely a reflection of Hillary Clinton’s personal views or directives – regardless of whether she distances herself from those statements, supporters or surrogates.
    TCR 3.0. If Sen. Obama gets the nomination and loses, it will be the fault of Hillary Clinton and her supporters. If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination (through her evil machinations) and loses, it will be the fault of Hillary Clinton and her supporters.

    Once you know The Clinton Rules, it is easy to derive….

    B. The Obama Rules (TOR)

    TOR 1.0. If anything good happens to the Democrats in this campaign, it can and should be attributed to Sen. Barack Obama.

    COROLLARY to TOR 1.0: All the good stuff that has happened and will happen is because of Obama’s unifying and positive campaign of change and his brilliant 50-state strategy (the resounding success of which is evident from the fact that he has so far already won in states with 193 electoral votes, while Clinton has only won in states with 263 electoral votes).
    TOR 2.0. NOT every statement of any prominent supporter or surrogate of Barack Obama is a reflection of Barack Obama’s personal views or directives.

    COROLLARY to TOR 2.0: Statements by any supporter or surrogate of Barack Obama’s that may cast him in poor light, are most definitely NOT a reflection of Barack Obama’s personal views or directives – regardless of whether he distances himself from those statements or supporters or surrogates.
    TOR 3.0. If Sen. Obama gets the nomination and loses, it will be the fault of Hillary Clinton and her supporters. If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination (through her evil machinations) and loses, it will be the fault of Hillary Clinton and her supporters.

    I welcome more additions to TCR and TOR from both Clinton and Obama supporters. This is fun!

    http://www.theleftcoaster.com/

  176. tcbequalityactions Says:
    March 16th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Don’t forget you can support Cindy Sheehan to replace Nancy Pelosi. She has her own website set up for contributions. This would be a good take down of the Pelosi – Kerry – Kennedy – Dodd group.

    Woops, better vet Cindy first. This blog at her site appears to support Obama AND Wright. See
    h t t p : / / salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/2705/blog/comments.jsp?blog_entry_KEY=21092&t=

  177. Sweet dreams Hillary and everyone:

    Hillary is the peace candidate. She is rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record. She will end the war in Iraq safely and strategically and vows to invest in long term solutions such as education and economic development especially in countries that are “hot beds” for anti-American feelings. In November of 1999 Hillary Clinton said “The smartest strategic choice is peace.”

  178. cindy sheehan-for her qualities to stand up against the war was great. i actually like pelosi-and i feel if enoguh dems tell her to pipe down on the nominee process she will stop. better yet-tell her no money to the dccc unless she shuts up. sheehan’s views on israeland other issues i feel very uncomfortable with. pelosi will carry her district easy. if hillary becomes president-dont expect pelosi to be speaker long

  179. Dang, bad timing…the world stock market is reacting to the US Fed rate cut. If overseas markets crash or if something happens with the dollar that will dominate the news tomorrow. CNBC is running live market updates.

    Maybe Hillary should give an economic speech tomorrow rather than an Iraq speech…

  180. 1950Democrat – You read the blog wrong. I read it and it was NOT pro Obama and Wright. Please read more carefully before posting.

  181. who can take dodds place..i cant stand him…or kerry kennedy…dont people get tired of them being in there for so long oust them out with new..and responsible ones

  182. Generation Obama? Perhaps Not.
    By WILLIAM KRISTOL
    Sunday evening, Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner held a “Generation Obama” fund-raiser at Boston’s Rumor Nightclub. In case you’re not up on the Boston club scene, I should tell you that Rumor “brings together the sexiest and hippest people from around the globe” and “has raised the bar in Boston’s night life” (if Rumor may say so itself). Presumably, Ben and Jennifer raised the bar a notch further on Sunday.

    Which is fine. Obama supporters are allowed to have fun. And celebrities are entitled to headline fund-raisers. But one has the sense that elsewhere in this great land the bloom is coming off the Obama rose.

    For one thing, it’s becoming clear that Obama has been less than candid in addressing his relationship to his pastor, Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ. For example, Obama claimed Friday that “the statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity.”

    It certainly could be the case that Obama personally didn’t hear Wright’s 2003 sermon when he proclaimed: “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, not God bless America, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. … God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human.”

    But Ronald Kessler, a journalist who has written about Wright’s ministry, claims that Obama was in fact in the pews at Trinity last July 22. That’s when Wright blamed the “arrogance” of the “United States of White America” for much of the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks. In any case, given the apparent frequency of such statements in Wright’s preaching and their centrality to his worldview, the pretense that over all these years Obama had no idea that Wright was saying such things is hard to sustain.

    This doesn’t mean that Obama agrees with Wright’s thoroughgoing and conspiracy-heavy anti-Americanism. Rather, Obama seems to have seen, early in his career, the utility of joining a prominent church that would help him establish political roots in the community in which he lives. Now he sees the utility of distancing himself from that church. Obama’s behavior in dealing with Wright is consistent with that of a politician who often voted “present” in the Illinois State Legislature for the sake of his future political viability.

    The more you learn about him, the more Obama seems to be a conventionally opportunistic politician, impressively smart and disciplined, who has put together a good political career and a terrific presidential campaign. But there’s not much audacity of hope there. There’s the calculation of ambition, and the construction of artifice, mixed in with a dash of deceit — all covered over with the great conceit that this campaign, and this candidate, are different.

    Which brings us back to the “Generation Obama” event. If you go to the Obama campaign Web site and click on “people,” you’ll see 14 categories of people you can choose to hook up with — women, labor, people of faith … and “Generation Obama.”

    What is Generation Obama? It’s a “grass-roots movement led by young activists with a simple goal: electing Barack Obama the next president of the United States of America,” the Web site says, adding that “you and other members can utilize the many talents of our country’s next great generation in support of the campaign in a variety of meaningful ways.”

    So in fact, “Generation Obama” is just a fancy name for young activists for Obama. But the (remarkable) conceit is this: The “next great generation” of Americans can appropriately be called “Generation Obama.”

    Now I’m actually a believer in the next generation, which one might call the 9/11 generation. Many of its members seem more serious and impressive than we baby boomers were when our elders were foolishly praising us, 40 years ago, as the best-educated, most idealistic generation ever. Many of the best of this young generation are serving their country — either in the military or otherwise. Some are in politics, working for various causes, liberal and conservative, and for various candidates, Democrats and Republicans. But surely there’s something creepy about a campaign claiming them as “Generation Obama.”

    With no particular dog in the Democratic fight, many conservatives have tended to think it would be good for the country if Obama were to win the Democratic nomination, freeing us from the dreary prospect of the return of the House of Clinton. Now I wonder. Might the country be better off with the cynicism of the Clintons than the conceit of Obama?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

  183. Yes, but Dodd and Kennedy have passed some of the most important domestic legislation in the past 20 years. Kerry’s a do nothing. Deval Patrick will probably take Kennedy’s spot at some point. Kerry will definately be contested in the next election, but he didn’t have a primary challenger this time around, so another six years. :/

  184. I stand corrected. It is not pro Obama but is pro Wright (ok – don’t support Cindy) From the blog on Cindy’s website.

    “Senator Obama also denounced any remarks that “disparaged our great country.” Hmm…does he denounce remarks that his own wife made about being proud to be an American for the first time in her “adult life?” I wish I could be proud of a nation that tortures people and imprisons them without basic legal rights. I wish I could be proud of a nation that has a sitting president that has been responsible for killing almost a million innocent Iraqi people in a misadventure that was based on lies and is for profit. I wish I could be proud of a nation that rapes its poor people to feed the already rich in a demented reverse Robin Hood affect. I wish I could be proud of a country where over a million children are homeless and hungry every night. I wish I could be proud of a nation that left our black brothers and sisters hanging off of their roofs after Katrina. The list can go on and on. Senator Obama needs to denounce me, because the policies of our government do not make me proud and oftentimes endlessly disgust me.”

  185. March 17, 2008
    Op-Ed Columnist
    Generation Obama? Perhaps Not.
    By WILLIAM KRISTOL

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?hp

    “The more you learn about him, the more Obama seems to be a conventionally opportunistic politician, i
    mpressively smart and disciplined, who has put together a good political career and a terrific presidential campaign.
    But there’s not much audacity of hope there. There’s the calculation of ambition, and the construction of artifice,
    mixed in with a dash of deceit — all covered over with the great conceit that this campaign, and this candidate,
    are different.”

  186. thanks mj ..good i hope whoever it is. beats him by far..that kerry …

    off subject!omg rivera ranting at manson..and manson sits there says ok man..rivera keeps at it…and manson says gett em ghost..lmfao…that guy is crazy..there night be more people that is sad after all these years..

  187. Obama’s preacher sanitizes website
    Removes radical ‘Black Value System’ from church ‘About Us’ page
    Posted: March 16, 2008
    10:56 pm Eastern

    A black Chicago church attended by Democrat presidential frontrunner Barack Obama has removed from the “About Us” page of its website an entire section outlining a radical belief system for blacks, WND has learned.

    Trinity United Church of Christ, which describes itself as “unashamedly black,” drew fire last week after inflammatory sermons by its senior pastor were broadcast on cable TV news.

    Obama responded he was shocked to hear the profane anti-American and anti-white rhetoric delivered by his Rev. Jeremiah Wright and strongly objected to it.

    While critics say the sermons reflect militantly segregationist views, Obama says they were taken out of context and do not reflect the broader message of his preacher and church.

    Until recently, however, Trinity’s website outlined a controversial code of ethics written by blacks for blacks called the “Black Value System.”

    It asks members to commit their time, money and talents to the black community, black businesses, black institutions and black political leaders. The program also demands black members disavow “the pursuit of middleclassness.”

    The 160-word section has since been deleted from the About Us page, replaced by videotaped testimonials from church members extolling the virtues of the church, including a white official from the parent United Church of Christ who said she feels welcome at predominantly black Trinity.

    “These black ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever blacks are gathered,” the original webpage said.

    Here is the entire text of the section before it was redacted:

    “Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

    1. Commitment to God

    2. Commitment to the Black Community

    3. Commitment to the Black Family

    4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education

    5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence

    7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect

    8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”

    9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community

    10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions

    11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System

    12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.”

    Critics argue Wright has used his tax-exempt church to exercise a radical political agenda.

    A longtime friend of Nation of Islam founder Louis Farrakhan, Wright has called for divestment from Israel and refers to Israel, as well as America, as a “racist” state.

    “Theologically he believes that the true ‘Chosen People’ are the blacks,” said Caroline B. Glick, an editor for the Jerusalem Post. “Indeed he is a black supremacist.”

    “He believes that black values are superior to middle-class American values,” she added, “and that blacks should isolate themselves from the wider American society.”

    Wright currently is on “sabbatical” and unavailable for comment. Trinity did not immediately return phone calls seeking explanation regarding its revised webpage.
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59169

  188. This morning I offered a rebuttal to Bill Bradley the dullest man on the face of the earth. I disputed his assertion that bambi would commandeer all of Hillary’s supporters if he is the nominee. I pointed out that according to polling data taken BEFORE the Wrightgate scandal erupted there would be 20% attrition. I went on to state my personal belief that the number would rise to 25-40% prior to the general election which suggested a major concern to the DNC.

    Well I gotta admit I was wrong. As of today Gallup/rasmussen poll 40% of Hillary voters will not vote for barrack vs 10% of Baracks voters doing the same. In other words the attrition number is correct but his slide is immediate rather than gradual. My sense now is that we have not hit bottom.

    The more interesting question is whether these voters just stay home or cross over to McCain. I can only speculate on that question because I have no data. But my sense is that with a little prodding a majority would actually cross over which would be a double whammy to the candidacy of the golden calf if the party is stupid enough to make him the nominee. In that case they would singlehandedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  189. wbboei, that is a precipitous fall for Obama. 40% will not vote for Obama. I agree that number is going to rise.

  190. pls. answer this someone, is Obama planning a full onslaught of negative campaigning on Hillary tomorrow? If so, I wonder, if all this vetting on a Friday, means that everyone knew ahead of time and are in on the planning! I can’t believe what I am hearing and reading here! I also earlier that Edwards may endorse Hillary tomorrow, is that a good tidbit of gossip or not?

  191. I LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO, NO FFFING WAY ARE WE PUTTING CINDY SHEEHAN IN PELOSIS SPOT…

    AGAIN, NO EFFFFING WAY !!!

    PELOSI CAN GO, BUT WE ARE NOT PUTTING A ‘DEAD HEAD’ SANDLE WEARING LIBERAL IN ANOTHER SPOT ..!!!!

  192. “Point needs to be stressed over and over and over that African-Americans, by supporting Obama, with a decidedly un-American name (Hussein) and a racist, hate-mongering pastor like Wright will ruin the hopes and aspirations for their entire race”

    But again, most of Obama’s supporters are white. It’s not African-Americans’ responsibility to rid us of this jerk. He’s in this position because of the stupid Democratic Establishment. Telling people “hey, don’t vote for this guy, he will make you all look bad” is only going to make people angry. Wouldn’t you be annoyed if people told you that you needed to take action aganst some candidate of your ethnic background before he made everyone look bad?

  193. what can he possibly say about Hillary that hasn’t already been said? People have been making nutcrackers of her, calling her a bitch, witch, etc since the beginning and yet she’s still the most admired Woman in the world…so…what the HELL could he dig up on her?

  194. timjcain – I didn’t like that part either but I have decided not to be paranoid about it. People are waking up to the real Obama and Hillary will come in to save the day. Mark my word.

  195. He is going to throw out the race card and blame the Clinton for Wright and excuse his own behavior.

    I was talking to my brother he knows my position…He thinks Hillary is going to win the White House because he think Obama will be…

    But he did say Obama handle this crisis wrong and he lied all over tv and it will come back to haunt him because there was no way he didn’t know about his church beliefs…he knew about Wright and we live in Los Angeles.

    So that doesn’t wash but he was dissappointed how quick Obama threw Wright under the bus and this is not the first time he done that..Farrakhan and others…it makes him weak and untrustworthy. He believes you should stand by your friends even if you don’t subscribes to their belief system you still stand.

    That’s not a trait a person running for the POTUS should have…he think the Superdelegates will turn to Hillary because he doesn’t see how Obama can win know. He lied on TV and it’s going to be shown that he lied…because he doesn’t believe a word Obama said and most people he talk to don’t believe his excuse either.

    He’s hoping that Hillary will offer the VP position to him because he can learn under Hillary….I was ROTFLAMO and told him I don’t think Obama’s ego could handle that and why should Hillary have that loser on her team.

    Also he went to Church today and everybody was talking about Dr. Wright/Obama and one the ladies said Obama must think we’re stupid to buy that lie and she thought he was arrogant.

  196. “Kerry will definately be contested in the next election, but he didn’t have a primary challenger this time around”

    Yeah he does, Ed O’Neill.

  197. any one have a link to snl i found the morgan piece disgusting and as they bombarded for bambi i figured i’d respond in kind. it was just not funny it was ugly. tried going to sight but it takes me through some bs nbc thing.

  198. Need to saturate the blogs with the ENTIRE BLACK VALUES SYSTEM from TUCC-cHICAGO that they took off hours ago. They think if they can keep the vast majority of Americans from reading and realizing what they really subscribe to, then they can lie about their mission right up until November. “Unashamedly Black”? I don’t think so. Hypocritical and opportunistic? Definitely. EVERYONE – POST THE ENTIRE BLACK VALUES SYSTEM FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE.

  199. If you ever wondered why certain entrenched interests within the party perfer a novice like Obama to a tested leader like Hillary at a time in our history when leadership is so critical to our future, here is a general answer submitted by a thoughtful blogger at Taylor Marsh:

    It is jealousy. The Clintons are smarter than the whole bunch put together and Bill won the presidency by doing it his way. The Dems know they cannot control Hillary, she is her own person with an agenda. They want to be the puppet masters of whoever is in the whitehouse and no way that will happen with Hillary. The Clintons have been tolerated and their popularity drives establishment Dems crazy.
    abycat | 03.16.2008 – 10:40 pm | #

  200. The Wright story is on BBC website. It is presented neutrally but the bottom line is the story is getting out. Soon everyone will have heard about god damn America and all the rest. The majority will not want to trust the Presidency to someone who has a 20 year relationship with someone that holds these kinds of beliefs. Obama in the article stated that he fully expects his opponents to use this against him. Yes, that is right because you have bragged for this entire election about your judgment. I find that you have horrible judgment to pick a separatist as your spiritual adviser.

  201. As a black person I do understand the need for it but under Rev. Wright leadership it has become a sword/weapon instead of a guide to repair their neighborhoods and communities.

    So much bitterness and hatred which is not in the teaching of MLK and others who follow the teaching of Jesus Christ.

    It’s the blame game and holding grudges…but one of the things I noticed about Chicago is how segregated it really is with some people never leaving their areas…southside vs northside vs westside.

  202. timjcain,
    The diarist was a bit emotional, so don’t count the projection for too much. The really interesting thing is that people largely really are getting fed up with Obama. Basically they’ve been hoodwinked. They’ve been had. They’ve been took. They’ve been led astray, led amok. They’ve been bamboozled.

    And they’re starting to feel it.

  203. Wbboei:
    It is jealousy. The Clintons are smarter than the whole bunch put together and Bill won the presidency by doing it his way. The Dems know they cannot control Hillary, she is her own person with an agenda. They want to be the puppet masters of whoever is in the whitehouse and no way that will happen with Hillary. The Clintons have been tolerated and their popularity drives establishment Dems crazy.
    abycat | 03.16.2008 – 10:40 pm | #

    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That is the smartest posting I have read!!!!!! It speaks to the truth.

  204. All-‘her voters will vote for me but mine will not vote for her’ – Barrack

    Gallup/rasmussen poll 40% of Hillary voters will not vote for barrack vs 10% of Baracks voters doing the same.

    DA Chickens………………………………………..have finally come HOME!!!!

    TO ROOST!
    HuffoBanned | 03.16.2008 – 10:03 pm | #

  205. TCB QUALITYACTIONS,

    TAKE A PILL?

    IS THAT SUPPOSE TO MEAN SOMETHING TO ME?
    WAS THAT SUPPOSE TO BE SOMEKIND OF BITTING REBUKE OR SOMETHING?

    CAUSE BEFORE I TELL YOU WHERE TO GO, I’LD LIKE TO BE SURE, YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE PUTTING ME IN MY PLACE….

  206. just a heads up from China, the Chinese government has taken the unusual step to cut off access to all foreign media sources due to the Tibet problem. Must be pretty serious. I can not read the news on line and had to use a proxy server to by-pass the clampdown. Wish I could just turn on the news at times like this. Hate being so blind. Cherish our freedoms as Americans. Thank goodness, looks like the Obama train is derailing, otherwise we might have worry about his media buddies censoring any negative Obambi press if he gained power.

  207. DemAC – Agreed it’s that people are starting to feel bamboozled by Obama.

    skmf12 – I’m not feeling you. I don’t know, anger management?

  208. Yes, Chicago has a very segregated feeling to it. I really didn’t know there were whole churches devoted to black supremacy and milking white guilt. I have gone to Glide Memorial Methodist church in San Francisco that is lead by the wonderful Cecil Williams – a black man. His church is what I call a true Noah’s Ark of openness and inclusion. This stands in stark contrast to what I am learning about Wright’s teachings. I don’t need people like Donna Brazile to tell me what is right and what is wrong. Wright needs to come to terms with his own personal demons before he goes out and talks hate.

  209. Curiosityhasme, wtf are you saying? Please, STFU!

    Gemond, absoutely correct! This idea of blaming african americans is absurd.

    Carby, Boston is atrocious. We don’t have a large african american pop, but the city is the most gentrified in the country. By design, poor african americans are kept to the outskirts. It’s disgusting. We need to deal with systemic, institutionalized racism in this country. That’s something Bush has not done a thing about. But, Hillary has a lot of plans in that direction, and I think after all of this, the country may be ready to do the hard work.

  210. THATS RIGHT, ANGER MANAGEMENT, I NEED IT, DONT BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF IT…

    WHO ARE YOU EXACTLY?

    IF YOU SAY SOME F*CKING STUPID REMARK TO TRY AND ‘BITCH SLAP’
    ME, WE WILL HAVE WORDS…

    ARE YOU TRYING TO PUSH CINDY’S AGENDA HERE?
    DO YOU LIVE HERE IN THE CITY?

  211. I should say, by design, historically, but its created a lasting chasim. Boston was not always as gentrified though, as it is increasingly becoming.

  212. Oh, wait, carby, I think you mean even in the high income neighborhoods. Is that correct? I read that once about Chicago.

  213. yeah mj, it is a royal pain in the you-know-what when this happens. I feel sorrier for the folks in Tibet. Must be pretty scary for them right now.

  214. reading some youtube comments lol

    I was wondering what Michelle Obama meant with her “proud” comments, is there any doubt what she meant now. I was an Obama supporter but not anymore. This country needs an enema in the worst way and I thought Obama was the man with the water bag!

    here is one you guys should comment obambots
    there trying to erase comments but there is so many defecting..they cant keep at it..lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81O_o3giJJ0&feature=related

  215. Since I can only get news via the proxy server at the moment, I can not copy paste links. But I did find a good news item I want to share so here it is in its entirety:

    Wrighting Dirty
    By George Neumayr
    Published 3/17/2008 12:08:32 AM
    The videos of Barack Obama’s pastor of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, surpass Saturday Night Live parodies. As his congregants are hopping up and down like hyperactive children and fellow pastors are clapping him on the back, a sashaying Wright allows himself a range of rancid and conspiratorial musings that might even give Cynthia McKinney pause. The feverish racism reaches its high point of buffoonishness when Wright accuses the so-called first black president, Bill Clinton, of “riding dirty,” exploiting the black community as he exploited Monica Lewinsky.

    Under pressure, Obama is crying uncle, literally. He is casting Wright as the unhinged relative with which most American families are saddled. But how many Americans have their bonkers uncle preside at their wedding, baptize their children, and give them a title to a book? This is like finding out that, say, David Duke had served as best man at John McCain’s wedding.

    Obama now says he would have walked out of the church had he heard Wright’s “God damn America” sermons. But look at the videos: none of Obama’s fellow congregants look appalled or ready to walk out; they are practically doing somersaults of joy down the aisles. Wright’s raise-the-roof racism was his customary style and an immense crowd-pleaser. Obama never saw this in his 20 years of attending his sermons? That’s not plausible.

    Even as Obama claimed ignorance of the sermons in media interviews last Friday, he contradicted this denial by describing Wright as a man of “anger and frustration” whose time had passed. How did he know? Did he just learn that in the last few days?

    A SYMPATHETIC MEDIA, eager to change the subject, quickly notes that Obama has a new pastor, Otis Moss. Well, that’s reassuring. Moss was rooting Wright on and shares many of his radical views, having apprenticed under him.

    Notice also that the media (the oh-so-irenic-and-thoughtful David Gergen, for example, dusted this one off on CNN) is recycling a tired multiculturalist rationalization in Obama’s defense: that the “black church” experience deserves a generous interpretation from whites and that pastors who have suffered discrimination deserve a rhetorical mulligan or two.

    Creeping into the news coverage was even a note of admiration for Obama’s loyalty to Wright — that he didn’t “repudiate” the man, but only his views. This from a media that egged McCain into calling Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson “agents of intolerance.”

    While the media worked hard to try and find a conservative Christian equivalent to Wright in McCain’s life, they couldn’t come up with one, and since McCain’s interest in religion is wan no one really cares anyways.

    THE WRIGHT CONTROVERSY threatens to cement Obama’s reputation as a stealth radical, cooler in his temperament than overt radicals but equally committed to their goals. It is not surprising to hear Obama casually talk on the campaign trail about confiscating the profits of oil companies given that Wright’s “liberation theology,” which is Marxist in its premises, has shaped his worldview for over a generation.

    And why would Americans want to turn their country over to a candidate who attends a straightforwardly separatist church that views America with suspicion if not contempt? Look at the church’s official literature: it is openly separatist, mirroring the white racism of “separate but equal” almost perfectly. A pressed Wright even used the separate but equal defense in an interview on Fox News, saying that separate does not mean superior. The church’s literature touts a “Black Value System” and states, “We are an African people, and remain ‘true to our native land.'”

    Shoehorning racial separatism into Christianity destroys it, as St. Paul admonished when he wrote that in Christ there is “neither Jew nor Greek,” and a hyphenated Americanism that prizes the African while holding the American in contempt is also destructive. If this is the “audacity of hope,” which is Wright’s phrase, America is in trouble.

    One reason to doubt Obama’s sudden displeasure with his pastor’s comments is that his wife makes similar ones and he doesn’t seem to care. “As a black man Barack can get shot going to the gas station,” she said, before more recently commenting that she is finally “proud” of her country. Perhaps before this is all over Obama will enlist that old explanation for male church attendance: my wife made me go.

    George Neumayr is editor of Catholic World Report and press critic for California Political Review.

  216. pulchritude Says:

    March 17th, 2008 at 1:09 am
    i despise michelle obama. am i allowed to insult her here?

    Of course. I can’t stand her either. My husband can’t stand her. No one I know can stand her.

    I particularly hate how she acts as though she isn’t rich. Man, I’d feel pretty rich living in that mansion. I decided I didn’t like her the first day I heard her say “If you can’t manage your own house, how can you manage the WH?” I knew exactly what she meant. Just totally inappropriate, vile thing to say.

  217. Paddy, that article is funny. The MSM is filled with hypocrits. David Gergen…who is he fooling? As though it’s commen to have an african american pastor tell his congregation on christmas morn that Bill Clinton “rode them dirty”. LOL

  218. Which group do you think will have the largest percentage of defections from the BO camp – latte liberals, African Americans, college students/youth?

  219. don’t fret about the world markets. They are down, Hong Kong about 8%, Tokyo, London, Frankfurt are all down too, but no crash. We have half a day left. They could come back a bit before the markets close in three hours in Asia. may not dominate the morning news in America.

  220. mj – Ditto.

    As though it’s commen to have an african american pastor tell his congregation on christmas morn that Bill Clinton “rode them dirty”. LOL

  221. yep firestorm is right there is lotts writing on the youtube comments..lotts are watching because you can see all the different names ..beloew the videos one had 17 watching it..

  222. Yeah, Michelle sometimes reminds me of that eye-rolling moment at the Oscars where Halle Berry went on and on about how she suffered growing up poor and black on the streets of cleveland. Only the problem is this: I’m from Cleveland and Bedford is pretty solidly middle class. Secondly she’s been winning beauty contests since she’s been a teenager. I don’t care what color you are beautiful hot people ALWAYS have it easier than normal looking people. My guess is that an overweight or obese white women has faced FAR more discrimination than she has.

    My other guess is that Michelle hasn’t faced all that much discrimination either.

  223. Sometimes after reading this blog and Taylor Marsh, I like to review what I have learned:

    I am expected to believe that for twenty years, Obama was unaware that his pastor preached hatred. At the same time, I am expected to believe that Obama did not know that his benefactor, Rezko, was under investigation for fraud and god knows what else. I am also expected to believe that Obama, the community organizer was unaware that some of his community had no heat in a very cold winter.
    I also must believe that Obama was unaware that the few thousand that he first said he had received from Rezko was really $250,000 (so far).
    I certainly should not worry that the house that just happened to be bought on the same day as the lot next door is now the result of a request by the Obamas to the Rezkos. I shouldn’t read anything into that favor being repaid by letters from Obama to get Rezko the slums he couldn’t heat.

    I understand that it is a mere oversight that the nuclear bill Obama takes such credit for passing was rewritten by Exelon and never actually passed. I am trying to believe that the homophobic tour was to start a dialog and the Spanish ads accusing Hillary of being against Latinos was not an attack ad. I am supposed to believe that Obama pressed the wrong voting button 5 times.

    Lord knows why he couldn’t vote for a bill keeping sex shops away from schools or why he was for CAFA denying class action lawsuits to many. But I am now tired and I can’t convince myself of any of this.

  224. cj – I think you are right. Do the AAs defect at anything that would be called significant?

  225. St. patricks day tommorrow..so maybe alott are off work and spring break for some..thought they watched wright videos and bo denouncing..see like 2 bo supporters on most of them the rest are just bashing him thats good..

  226. Oh okay, paddy, I had no idea you were in China! Yeah–I know cross country web use can be difficult for a number of reasons. I’ll post your important essay at my blog–thanks for letting me and thanks for writing it! It’s no bother me posting it. I just wanted to make sure you were okay with people posting it elsewhere.

    I see Newsmax has NAMED A NAME. Jim Davis.

    newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_hate_America_sermon/2008/03/16/80870.html

    –This is stronger “eyewitness” evidence. They’ve gone further than their first report stating Obama was in the pews, wherein they didn’t name a reporter; I and others posted about that here when Ben brought up the link. Here’s my post there:

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=534#comment-112814

    In my opinion, OBAMA WAS THERE THAT DAY. Which means BUSTED. His repeated claims he hadn’t heard that hate stuff from Wright are lies–or maybe he’ll now say he’d been wearing earplugs during that service?

  227. i think latte liberals will defect first – they’ll understand buyer’s remorse and an investment with diminishing returns. College students are on break; plus, some will probably agree with Wright.

  228. Fran, is that the day of 9/11. Or just that day, which I am sure is typical, with the anti-white rant of Pastor Wright.

  229. mj,

    blow job queen michelle hussein obama is a welfare queen who believes everything should be handed to her.

    i quote the new yorker:

    “You’re looking at a young couple that’s just a few years out of debt,” Obama said. “See, because, we went to those good schools, and we didn’t have trust funds. I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that Dick Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!”

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/10/080310fa_fact_collins?currentPage=3

    Give you something? You have a full-time maid, a salary over $300,000, a mansion Rezko helped you finance, and you want us to give you something? You have a personal trainer you visit four times a week, and your family only consumes organic food, and you believe complete strangers should GIVE you something? Take it somewhere else, honey. i am not a welfare program.

    and the presidency is not a government handout, skank. you were handed your job at the university of chicago hospitals, and you were handed your raise as a result of your husbands ability to obtain earmarks for your employer, but i will not just hand you my vote, you indolent welfare queen. and yes, i understand you were allowed to sit on the board of tree house foods, a wal-mart affiliate, as a result of your husband’s position of us senator, but you will receive no handouts, government or otherwise from me, michelle hussein. go suck on something else, for i am not a welfare program.

  230. Question: From this point forward (think Mclaughlin report) will any Republicans cross over and vote for Obama? or will they be petrified that he could actually become the President and they now will absolutely not vote for him?

    bye bye…

  231. remember that Obama was careful to say that he wouldn’t reject Wright because he’d heard one or two things about these inflammatory sermons, so even if they find one where he was present, he’ll probably try to write that off – do we have to wait for 3 strikes, you’re out?

    I’m telling everyone to watch Fox. Drive up their ratings, so they’ll keep reporting on Wright.

  232. if blow job queen michelle obama needs someone to GIVE HER SOMETHING, then she can go hunt for some rezko cash.

  233. lninla Says:

    March 17th, 2008 at 1:32 am
    i think latte liberals will defect first – they’ll understand buyer’s remorse
    your right because of the buyers remorse..yepp..i forgot buyers remorse..then college kids

  234. i just watched Bill Clinton talk to a reporter from CNN in New Orleans, Bill said the democrats in Florida were forced by the republicans to sign on to an earlier date, is this true?
    I also wanted to tell you all that I called Gov. Dean’s ofc. last week and spoke with his secretary and I asked her the same question, she told me the democrats were not forced to do anything and that was a lie being spread around. SHe also said, you can see the legislation yourself if I would look at it. The DNC is not going to recogize Florida and that it because they broke the rules.
    If Bill Clinton knows what happened to the dems in Florida, why doesnt the DNC? Of coarse I know the answer, but would like to see if anyone else agrees with me!!

  235. pulch, “university of chicago hospitals” That group of hospitals is known as seriously corrupt. I think the IRS was even investigating them. I heard about it on NPR a couple of years ago. They sit on this huge stash of money, give their exectuives lucrative bonuses, but then don’t treat the poor, and charge the poor tons more than the insured.

    She says this stuff about trust funds, sell it somewhere else sweetie. Most americans don’t have a trust fund. You can bet your ass her kids have trust funds because the Obama’s are now rich, so what the heck is she complaining about?

  236. Confloyd, Bill was right, and the DNC did lie to you. The move up was attached to a bill that went through the Florida legislature, and the Dems attempted to reschedule thier primary for Super Tuesday but weren’t allowed to by Florida’s Republican legislature. File it under yet another “DNC doesn’t want you to know” comment.

  237. confloyd Says:

    March 17th, 2008 at 1:38 am
    i just watched Bill Clinton talk to a reporter from CNN in New Orleans, Bill said the democrats in Florida were forced by the republicans to sign on to an earlier date, is this true?

    Absolutely, it’s true. That secretary doesn’t know what she is talking about. Also, 40% turnout among Dem’s in that primary. Record turn out. Their voice was heard, just not by the DNC.

  238. yes, the university of chicago hospitals is seriously corrupt. and michelle obama is out of touch. discussing trust funds with voters in south carolina, asking them to give her something? take it to rezko, skank; at least he will hand you a wad of rezko cash.

  239. cj – Sean Hannity was totally reasonable about this. Colmes was an idiot. I wish he would be half that emotional and indignant when he is arguing good Democratic/progressive causes.

  240. and blow job queen/welfare queen michelle hussein obama has the appearance of a drag queen in this video, where she claims hillary clinton cannot run the white house as a result of bill clinton’s philandering

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc

    at least hillary can buy her own house, michelle. hillary did not have to beg for rezko cash. and she discusses role models in this video. welfare queens seeking handouts are not roll models, michelle hussein. take it to someone who will buy your bankrupt rhetoric, skank, for i am not a government program that exists to GIVE YOU SOMETHING.

  241. March 17, 2008
    Time to Buy Hillary Clinton
    By John McIntyre

    Three reasons why it may be wise to become bullish on Senator Clinton becoming the next U.S. President.

    1) Senator Obama’s “problem” in regards to his long-time pastor is a real issue. Brian Ross’ report Thursday on Good Morning America, and more importantly the surfacing of the incendiary video(s), make this an explosive subject that will not go quietly away.

    2) The very serious meltdown in the financial markets is likely to focus the country’s attention on the health, stability and future of the American economy. Fairly or unfairly, Senator Clinton will benefit from her association with Bill Clinton’s administration in the prosperous Nineties, and that perceived experience on the economy will stand in stark contrast to Senator Obama’s dearth of experience.

    3) The mostly unnoticed switch of Puerto Rico from a caucus on June 7 to a primary on June 1, gives Hillary Clinton a very real opportunity to surpass Barack Obama in the popular vote count. If Senator Clinton can “win” the popular vote, this will provide undecided superdelegates ample rationale to go with the less risky general election option of Senator Clinton.

    Currently on Intrade Senator Clinton’s odds to become the next president stand at 17.9%, down from a 2008 high of 47.5% on January 22. With Senator Obama unlikely to win another primary until May, it is time to be buying Hillary Clinton.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/time_to_buy_hillary_clinton.html

  242. mj, the newsmax article says July 22, 2007.

    The article says Wright said that day: “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened….Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering.

    It also says:

    “If Obama’s claims are true that he was completely unaware that Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ has targeted “white” America and Israel, he would have been one of the few people in Chicago to be so uninformed. Wright’s reputation for spewing hate is well known…”

    –Carby had said the church had a reputation.

    ““In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in the church-affiliated magazine Trumpet four years after the attacks. “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”

    –I’m no fan of this country’s past meddling, invasions and other crap toward other countries. I think stupid greedy american government actions have helped fuel some of the hatred toward america. But I also think some people from other countries would do violence no matter what, they’d hate here (and elsewhere) no matter what. They’re fanatics who can’t be reasoned with.

    Wright’s comments really are nauseating. He sounds like a sick fuck sometimes. Does he think only white people died on September 11th? Even if he doesn’t give a shit about the white people who died, what about people of other races? September 11th attacked AMERICANS. Does he not understand this? People like him want americans separate in their race corners.

  243. You know, What the heck has happened to our democratic party, I thought we were the party of the people, We the People, certainly isn’t on the minds of Howie and his hatchet men, is it. I come from a long line of yellow dog democrats, and I’m sorry, but I just can’t vote for the numb nut Obama. My parents were of the generation that coend the phrase “yellow dog”, my mom was very political and screamed at the tv regularly when Bill was being railroaded by the repulicans. I miss her terribly, but I am glad she is not here to see how DNC has screwed its loyal voters. My parents belonged to the communication workers of America Union and my dad still does and he is 85. He and I voted and caucassed for Hillary in Texas on March 4th!!

  244. Fran, I agree with you completely. I also think this article proves the obvious. Anti-white sermons were always served up on Sunday.

  245. I just got home and want to catch up but my mouth hurts almost as bad as when I had my surgery so I think I’m going to have to take a pain pill and go to bed. These pills give me scary dreams. The other night I had some Bill Clinton/Project Runway/Richard Simmons hybrid thing going on. :/

  246. Yeah Brad’s there too! I love Brad Pitt!

    But Clinton is a hack who never did any good for this country and just screwed everyone over like he did Monica! ::stomps foot::

  247. Oh, that’s Brad’s green housing project. neat. Yeah, CGI is part revival/part convention. BC has done a lot of good.

  248. DemAc@12:03: “We should never despair when wisdom comes late because too often it never comes at all” (Felix Frankfurter, Supreme Court of the United States, circa 1950). Case in point your wonderful posting excerpted below.

    “I have repeatedly insisted I would vote for Obama. I said I could scarcely imagine a scenario which would cause him to lose my vote. I’ve maintained that position even in the last few days, perhaps more in an attempt to convince myself of it than anyone else. The tide’s been turning for awhile, though, and I’ve finally reached the point at which I can openly say, “This is the last straw.” So what was the last straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back? Technically, the breaking point was a petition, which I first saw last night, that demands Senator Clinton’s immediate withdrawal from the race because she has, “increasingly appealed to and sought to increase resentment against others based on the color of their skin.” Oh, really? How nice of you to say so. Don’t be subtle about it. Make sure everyone in America knows Hillary Clinton is a filthy racist. Obviously, everything she and her husband have done in their lives is a testament to that single irrefutable fact. Yes, obviously. There’s no reason to have any opinion to the contrary, and if you do, you’re probably a racist as well.

    I’m not blaming the people who sign this petition. Not really. I’m not blaming African Americans or anyone else who has come to believe that the Clintons are race-baiting degenerates. I’m blaming Barack Obama himself. He’s the ones who should be held accountable.”

    I commend the author for his willingness to revise his opinion in response to new evidence. It is a mark of intelligence. Beyond that however he recognizes something that many people overlook which is that the leader of an organization is the one who creates the culture, and the culture in turn influences the behavior of its participants.

    Thus when Barack Obama, Axelrod, Burton, Plouffe and Gibbs decided to play the race card they sent an implicit message to their supporters that this form of behavior is not only permissable but de rigeur. As a result, supporters adopted tactics which became increasingly extreme. And now, as Obama announces a full frontal assault against Hillary the Hitler Juegen will treat that as a call to arms and a new cycle of extremist attacks by the Hitler Juegen will commence.

    According to Eriposte at Left Coaster: the Clinton campaign’s response to the fraudulent accusations by Obama surrogates and the Obama campaign was weak on two fronts.

    First, they should have highlighted the fact that Sen. Clinton☼ was being swift-boated using those false charges. Specifically, Sen. Obama’s surrogates or in some cases his campaign staff or advisors were repeatedly making false charges of racism against Sen. Clinton while Sen. Obama pretended to be above the fray by mouthing the usual platitudes about her – this is a pretty standard version of the swift-boating tactics used against Sen. John Kerry☼ ; the Obama campaign has not been that careful – and they didn’t have to be since the media has been in the tank for him for quite a while now).

    Second, the Clinton campaign should have taken the strong stance that those who make false charges of racism are morally not that different from the racists they denounce.

    Now that Obama has announced a full frontal assault the Clinton campaign will have a chance to redeem itself. Todays article by Peter Dao is a critical first step. It calls the game, defines the base line and clarifies the fact that Obama is the aggressor. How they respond to this new wave of attacks is critical. (See my prior posting on point).

  249. Yeah, Bill’s been good to us. One of the biggest things that made me turn on Obama is how his campaign has treated Bill. There’s too many honorable Dems who’ve had their reputations attacked in O’s rush to the presidency.

  250. This is great, found it on abcnews.com comments:

    “Bush looked into Putin’s eyes and saw a good soul, that only took a few minutes.

    Obama looked into his Pastor’s eyes for 20 years and did not see or hear anything.

    Obama must be worse then Bush. Great another dummy for the White House.”

  251. Just sent this rant to my media list. I want them to know how pissed we are.

    New polls indicate Democrats will leave the Democratic Party in droves if black separatist Barack Obama is elected the nominee. There is clear evidence that the public has tired of his arrogant and hypocritical campaign where he has simultaneously touted himself as a new kind of politics but at the same time leading a concerted effort to take down his opponent at all costs. Just today he indicated a full out assault is coming. Obama wants the Presidency. He feels it is owed to him. And he will do anything to get it. He’s been doing the bamboozling and hoodwinking all the time accusing others of the same. Big media has been in on the game. Of course we are used to this now. Since big media helped elect the worst President ever – twice. And helped defeat the great statesman and now Nobel Peace Prize winner Al Gore. This is the same big media that helped sell George Bush’s war. So no big surprises here.

    But now enough citizens will be awakened from their cozy slumbers because Obama’s campaign of deceit is unraveling. Go to YouTube to get a good feeling for what people are thinking. The defections from camp Obama have begun. Every story has it’s arc and now it looks like Obama’s arced last Friday.

    Sorry Keith Oberman and Anderson Cooper you will have to find another man love. Sorry Tweety someone else will have to send a tingle up your leg. Sorry Axelrod you will have to find another candidate to create your dream with and some else to blame Bhutto’s death on. Never did I think someone would stoop so low to use the death of a woman leader for political purposes.

    Yes thank Obama and Axelrod for creating one of the dirtiest political environments in decades. Donna Brazile is right there is a civil war in the Democratic Party. And the unity and hope starts when?

  252. His repeated claims he hadn’t heard that hate stuff from Wright are lies–or maybe he’ll now say he’d been wearing earplugs during that service?

    Heh! I think he gets abducted by aliens during the inflammatory parts of the service and then gets returned during the more spiritual parts.

  253. If Obama is forced out ( and I think he will be), who gets his delegates? They are pledged. How and when does the race come to a formal close? His name is on the ballot in the remaining states and he could win a protest vote in NC by the AAs even if he has dropped out.
    Edwards only suspended his run. I wonder if he thinks he can come back and go after the Obama delegates. Who knows what he will announce on Thursday if anything. Luckily he is broke. He can’t do much. Not enough time left to raise money to compete in the reamining states. Let’s hope instead he just endorses Hillary soon and that will put more pressure on the SDs (and Obama to quit).

  254. Ok, here’s an interesting, yet unasked question…he started listening to the tapes at Harvard, so is that what pulled him to Chicago, Pastor Wright?

  255. “he’d have to be ripvanwinkle to sleep through 20 years of sermons.”

    mj, you are so funny sometimes.

  256. You know, it is weird because I agree with a lot of the things Wright is saying, it is just the bitterness and blame-without-solutions that gets to me.

    And the pulpit humping.

  257. He makes a few good points about social justice but then totally distorts them. Just remember he did not invent those points. But, his distortions are his own.

  258. lol mj! I fell asleep during mass once. I was an altar girl and so I was up behind the priest. I find Catholic masses dead boring anyways, but they’re even more boring when there’s not a hymnal to thumb through to keep you busy. I fell off my chair. Wound up saying penance for a week.

  259. And there might be an interesting debate at the next session of the Jewish World Congress as to if Jewish people consider themselves as blacks (Negroid), anthropologically speaking. The historical Jesus according to Christians was Jewish.

  260. HillBilly, even lunatics probably have moments of sanity.

    Being very angry at an injustice is one thing; HATING because of that injustice is another thing, especially when knee-jerk hating those you think don’t look like you do, who don’t have your genitals, and/or your ancestry and ethnicity.

    Speaking of which, I’m a bit amazed at all the white hating Wright does. Am I the only one who’s noticed he’s very light skinned? I’ve got Italian relatives who were darker than he is. Could Wright have some white/european ancestry farther in his background, could I have some black/african–how can anyone be sure of this stuff? (On the other hand, there are normally different degrees of skin pigmentation among africans, europeans, etc., usually based on specific locations within those areas.)

    Methinks Wright needs to do less hating and more soul-searching….

  261. You know the Clintons had to know about all this stuff a while back but couldn’t say anything. Can you imagine how much they had to pretend knowing that Obama was a real live black separatist that would do anything for power? The press knew earlier too. They just sat on it because they thought they would use it in the GE. But when it looked like maybe Obama could really win the nomination and the GE they got scared. So they decided they better knock him out here and now.

  262. Does anyone have an address for Geraldine Ferraro? I wanted to send her flowers with a note of thanks. Thank you for your courage, Ms. Ferraro.

  263. …He looks like he’s mixed race in his background somewhere, but I don’t want to make assumptions based on appearance only. People can come out looking many different ways no matter their backgrounds because each person’s unique.

    But if people even posed a question to him about his background, got him thinking alone those lines, he might faint if he found out he were–gasp!–part-european in ancestry.

  264. I’ve always thought it likely that sicilians in particular might have african in their near-ancestry (my father’s italian family was probably sicilian). But I don’t say so to them because some of them might faint too. People are nonsensical about this stuff; their racism is nonsensical, at least to me.

  265. I thought everyone is African at their roots. It’s the cradle of civilization. So at some point each and everyone of us can be tied back to Africa.

  266. Obama’s mixed race too, and I think he probably dislikes white people, so he would also have that irony thing going on. Maybe they both know they have white ancestry in their background (Wright just doesn’t admit it), and maybe that’s part of their attraction to each other all these years of their close relationship…all these years of their close relationship where Obama claims he never knew of Wright’s hatreds…right. I believe that.

    But I’m wildly speculating here about Wright’s background. His appearance just made me pause because I really thought he was european/white when I saw his pictures….

  267. Yep, tcbe, hominids most likely first came from africa, but I think some europeans have even nearer-in-time african ancestry–they just won’t admit it.

  268. Re. Obama: “False charges of racism are the last bastion of soundrels”.

    -H.L. Menken (paraphrase)

  269. admin-
    repost the jackson lee contact info. obama is targeting her here. its bad. we must stand up for her.
    my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/organizing/4xx8

  270. Says Taegan Goddard:

    “The voters get to decide. I think we should just celebrate this. If we just chill out here and let all the voters have their say, my gut is it’s gonna come out all right.”

    – Bill Clinton, in an interview to be aired Monday on Good Morning America.

  271. “i just watched Bill Clinton talk to a reporter from CNN in New Orleans, Bill said the democrats in Florida were forced by the republicans to sign on to an earlier date, is this true?”

    Yes. The Republican-controlled legislature moved the date (by only a few days, btw) by attaching it to a rider providing a papertrail for electronic ballots. Jeez, you’d think Dean would see how important verified voting in FL is, but thankfully at least the Fl Dems did. They had to vote yes or lose out on the paper trail. The national Democrats got all bent out of shape because sacred Iowa and New Hampshire cannot be challenged by states where people live holding primaries. They asked teh FL dems to agree that their results would not count. They refused, so Brazille stripped them of 100% of the delegates even though party rules only allow them to strip 50% (the Republicans stripped FL of 50%), so much for the sacred riules. Unreal that teh DNC is lying. I hope they publicly contradict Bill and he blasts them.
    Btw, in MI, they had an agreement not to move up their primary, but NH had teh same agreement. NH moved their primary, the DNC did nothing. MI assumed teh agreement was off and moved up theirs as well, the DNC went postal on them. Consistency.

  272. Shoot, couldn’t sleep so here I am again. Wrote this to Pelosi. She’s really pissed me off.

    Dear Ms. Pelosi,

    As a life-long democrat I would like to protest the blatant pro-Obama bias I have witnessed from yourself and others associated with the DNC.

    Why is everyone trying to cram this guy down our throats? Now, before you go to your script, I am NOT a racist. I just am not comfortable with the lack of experience and poor judgment Obama has shown in his associations. Intelligent democrats around the country are wondering how the DNC has managed to let someone get this far in the process without proper vetting. Also, your proclaimation that the superdelegates should vote with their constituents and that the popular vote doesn’t matter is like you essentially telling us that the race is over. Be careful what you wish for, because mark my words, there is NO WAY that Obama wins the general election. You underestimate the damage that has been done. If the DNC manages to have another circular firing squad and we lose the White House, you have no one but yourselves to blame. Obama has been extremely divisive, less than forthright, and has probably set white/black relations back a decade. If we lose we deserve to. But I will be writing in Hillary Clinton in November.

  273. So Florida has submitted their request to the DNC that since it is impossible to have a re-vote, that the DNC seat the delegation with 1/2 vote each. Naturally the Obama camp is still crying, tough shit get over it!!

    The bigbest reason he is crying IMO is not that he cuts into his delegate lead much (net loss 19 votes) is that if the DNC approves it, the popular vote will count in the national totals cutting his lead almost in half virtually assuring Hillary will win the national popular vote. In other words all his claims that the will of the people not be ignored means that the superdelegates should vote for Hillary.

  274. It is OVER for Obama. There are 4 videos in this diary, all made by amateurs, which are basically would-be commercial spots run against Obama by the GOP:

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/17/3623/12487

    The spots are even more effective than I thought they would be, and this is the work of non-professionals.

    It’s over for Obama, totally over. I don’t think he will even be given the VP spot.

    Watch those videos. Unreal.

  275. Whoever has the media email lists, please send these videos along to the MSM. This demonstrates how devastating the various acts and words of Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Rev. Wright would be to Dems in November.

    It’s over. Once the MSM gets ahold of these tapes and plays them for people to see, Obama is finished.

  276. Universal: It is OVER for Obama. There are 4 videos in this diary, all made by amateurs, which are basically would-be commercial spots run against Obama by the GOP:

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/17/3623/12487

    The spots are even more effective than I thought they would be, and this is the work of non-professionals.

    It’s over for Obama, totally over. I don’t think he will even be given the VP spot.

    Watch those videos. Unreal.

    I agree completely. Obama is finished, at least in the GE. If the democrats are stupid enough to make him the nominee for President, kiss the General Elections goodbye!!!

  277. Rjk @ 3:56: you are absolutely right. If there is a revote in Florida that will cut into Bambi’s lead in the popular vote. That is why he and his supporters–Wexler, Dean and Brazille want to disenfrachise Florida.

    Trinity Church video= Potemkin Village.

  278. Why didn’t CNN, MSNBC, and other vastly wealthy MSM outlets tell us about this stuff with Obama’s church? Can they claim they didn’t know? They should have known. It’s their job to learn these things. It’s their job to inform the American people on important matters. Were they deliberately deceiving us, or were they asleep at the wheel? Apparently the information was readily available.

    Someone, possibly amateurs, have been notifying the MSM about this for some time. Only Fox News took up the challenge, and they were late to the game – until it looked like Obama might be the nominee. Hannity was running a “Stop Hillary” campaign for many months before he got involved.

    I believe the MSM should have to suffer in their ratings and in their profits for the damage they have done. They should not get a free ride for blatantly misinforming and misleading the American people.

    CNN, why didn’t you tell us? MSNBC, why didn’t you tell us? Shame on you!!

  279. Do you all remember the color revolutions of the last 10 years or so? These were where through broad based non-violent popular uprisings, dictatorships were overthrown. Successful ones took place in the Ukraine, Serbia, one of the new Stans in central Asia (forget which one), and the Georgia republic. The forces of the status quo and a government controlled media were solidly behind the dictators. But through hard work, persistence and lots of determination, the will of the people prevailed.

    Why am I mentioning it on this blog? Because we are witnessing what might be called the YouTube Revolution. I checked around on some of the web news sites (some are up and running again in China, many still blocked) and you guessed it. Hardly any mention of the Obama-Wright scandal. Just a few weak stories on the bottom of the page somewhere. Most stories are the same old anti-Hillary propaganda. Just like in those former dictatorships, the media status quo is stubbornly refusing to fully inform the nation about Obama and his racist friends. But through the newest weapon of mass democracy, the internet and YouTube, a way is being forged to get around the solid wall of censorship. This is great. History in progress and we are making it.

    “Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?”

    Patrick Henry

  280. Sen. Dodd says the American people don’t rely on guilt by association. This article says differently:

    “But guilt by association will still influence some voters. Just take a look at what has happened in this race for President alone. Mitt Romney lost votes because of his association with the Mormon Church irregardless of the fact that we have freedom of religion guaranteed by the Constitution. Voters did not agree with what they perceived to be the ideals of the church, Romney belongs to the church, therefor they do not agree with Romney no matter what his political views.”

    politicallore.com/presidential-candidates/will-the-reverend-jeremiah-wright-jrimpact-the-election/182

    Hillary has been accused of racism based almost exclusively on comments made by her surrogates. Now people are finding Obama very closely associated with Wright.

  281. Fox hinting about Obama being present at wright sermons. saying Obama said he was never present for any of the hate rants. Saying that may or may not be true.

  282. THE SMOKING GUN: He said he was never there in church when those inflamatory statements were made. Well . . . . guess what. . . Falso in uno-falso in omnibus.

    http://www.newsmax.com
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    Obama Attended Hate America Sermon

    Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM

    By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size

    Obama claims he was completely unaware that the Reverend Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ targeted “white” America.

    Contrary to Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.

    Senator Obama has sought to separate himself from his pastor’s incendiary remarks, issuing a statement Friday rejecting them as “inflammatory and appalling” but failing to renounce Wright himself for his venomous and paranoid denunciations of America.

    In his press release, Obama claimed, “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation.”

    Appearing on cable news shows this past weekend, Obama claimed when he saw recent videos that have Wright making such comments as “God damn America,” he was “shocked.” Obama implied that the reverend had not used such derogatory language in any of the church services Obama attended over the past two decades.

    If Obama’s claims are true that he was completely unaware that Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ has targeted “white” America and Israel, he would have been one of the few people in Chicago to be so uninformed. Wright’s reputation for spewing hate is well known.

    In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama. [See: ”Obama’s Church: Cauldron of Division.”]

    In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.

    Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”

    Obama’s most famous celebrity backer, Oprah Winfrey began attending Wright’s church in 1984. Last year, Newsmax magazine reported that Winfrey abruptly stopped attending years ago, and suggested that she did so to distance herself from Wright’s inflammatory rhetoric. She soon found herself a target of Wright, who excoriated her for having broken with “traditional faith.”

    The Reverend Wright’s anti-white theology that Senator Obama expressed surprise over is evident on the church’s website. The site says the congregation subscribes to what it calls the Black Value System, which is described as a disavowal of “our racist competitive society” and the pursuit of “middle-classness.” That is defined as a way for American society to “snare” blacks rather than “killing them off directly” or “placing them in concentration camps,” just as the country structures “an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.”

    “In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in the church-affiliated magazine Trumpet four years after the attacks. “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”

    The Relationship Unravels

    Senator Obama now is attempting to minimize his long and close relationship with the controversial minister.

    On Friday, John McCain’s campaign distributed a Wall Street Journal op-ed “Obama and the Minister” written under my byline based on my reporting for Newsmax going back to early January of this year.

    The op-ed included details of a sermon Wright gave at Howard University blaming America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs, shamelessly supporting Israel, and creating a racist society that would never elect a black man as president. [See: “Obama’s Minister’s Hatred of America.”]

    Obama’s campaign quickly responded to the Wall Street Journal op-ed, posting a statement on the Huffington Post. In his statement, Obama acknowledged that some of Wright’s statements have been “inflammatory and appalling.”

    Saying he strongly condemns Wright’s comments, Obama continued, “I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it’s on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.” [emphasis added]

    Again, Obama moved to narrowly distance himself from specific comments Wright had made, while still praising his minister in recent interviews for leading him to Jesus and preaching a “social gospel.”

    Obama went on to claim that he first learned about Wright’s controversial statements when he began his presidential campaign. But this assertion conflicts with the fact that just before Obama’s nationally televised campaign kickoff rally on Feb. 10, 2007, the candidate disinvited Wright from giving the public invocation.

    At the time, Wright explained: “When [Obama’s] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, “a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”

    According to Wright, Obama then told him, “’You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.’” Still, Obama and his family prayed privately with Wright just before the presidential announcement.

    Apparently Obama never foresaw Wright’s sermons making national television or becoming a sensation on YouTube. But lending graphic detail to the saga, ABC News and other networks began running a 2003 sermon in which Wright said, “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible, for killing innocent people … God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” [Click Here to see video]

    Obama has described Wright as a sounding board and mentor. Wright is one of the first people Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Obama consulted Wright before deciding to run for president. The title of Obama’s bestseller “The Audacity of Hope” comes from one of Wright’s sermons. Obama’s “Yes We Can!” slogan is one of Wright’s exhortations.

    Apologists for Wright have said that what he says is normal in black churches, and many blacks claim such preaching cannot be understood by whites.

    “If you’re black, it’s hard to say what you truly think and not upset white people,” the New York Times quoted James Cone as saying. Cone is a professor at Union Theological Seminary and the father of what is known as black liberation theology.

    But Juan Williams, a Fox News commentator and author of “Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America,” tells Newsmax that Wright’s sermons reflect “the victim mindset that is so self-defeating in the black community and one that is played on by weak black leadership that chooses to have black people identified as victims rather than inspiring them as people who have overcome. In posing as victims, they say the most prejudiced and vicious things, not only about whites but about America. They call it theology. In fact, it’s nothing but bigotry.”

    In failing to condemn Wright himself and claiming that he was unaware of the preacher’s hate-filled speech, Obama is continuing a longstanding pattern.

    Obama often refers to Wright as being “like an old uncle, who sometimes says things I don’t agree with.” Wright is not Obama’s “uncle” — a person born into a blood relationship — but a man he has cultivated for decades as a close friend, mentor and adviser.

    After Newsmax broke the story on Jan. 14 that Wright’s church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan in December for lifetime achievement, Obama again sought to denounce his minister’s action without criticizing Wright himself.

    Like Wright, Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews (calling Judaism a “gutter religion”), whites, America, and homosexuals. He has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government, the media, and some black organizations.

    After the Newsmax story, Obama issued a statement purportedly addressing the issue.

    “I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan,” Obama said.

    Again, Obama was careful not to condemn Farrakhan himself or Wright who had spoken adoringly of Farrakhan and put their church behind the award to the controversial Nation of Islam leader.

    “When Minister Farrakhan speaks, black America listens,” Trumpet quoted Wright as saying. “His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening. He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”

    Obama adroitly said, “I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree.”

    In fact, Trumpet is published by Wright’s church using the church’s offices. Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.

    Having gotten away with sidestepping Wright’s adoring comments about Farrakhan, Obama told Jewish leaders flatly in Cleveland on Jan. 24 that the award was because of Farrakhan’s work with ex-offenders. To date, no news outlet has pointed out that Obama’s claim is false.

    Obama went on to explain away Wright’s anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state’s support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his claim that the award to Farrakhan was made because of his work with ex-offenders, Obama made that up. Wright’s statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way.

    On Fox News’ Hannity & Colmes on Saturday, Obama said he would have quit the church if he had “repeatedly” been present when Wright made inflammatory statements. He was not asked why he did not quit the church when it gave an award to Farrakhan.

    Having considered Wright a friend and mentor for two decades, Obama now often mentions that his pastor recently retired. Wright suggested to the New York Times last year that he and Obama might have to do something of a distancing act in the run up to the election.

    “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Wright was quoted by The New York Times. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said, ‘Yeah, that might have to happen.'”

    Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com. View his previous reports and get his dispatches sent to you free via e-mail. Go here now.

  283. I guess our emails to Fox got read. Obama caught lying not once, not twice, but several times Friday, Saturday and Sunday saying he never heard Wright make any of those comments. Bye… Bye… Bambi….

  284. Thank you again for those posts
    Got up early this morning to crack open the Sunday Pittsburgh Post-Gazette I was sickened to discover that following the previous days record shattering St Patricks Day Parade there was nothing on the front page nor in the entire front section. A us senator, former first lady and presidential candidate walked with the governor and the youngest mayor and that didn’t merit a front page blurb. However, on page A-8 was a 3/4 page story with a picture of baby bambi with his young mother The headline—- The dreams of his mother drove him!!

    and to really insult directly across on the next page the headline read– Rules relaxed when predator is a woman? the article did not pertain to Clinton but I doubt it was an accident. And that story was carried over from page one and pertained to a new jersey school teacher. I am repulsed.

  285. Caveat: after posting the news max article here under the heading smoking gun, I went over to taylor marsh and found she was already aware of it, apparently Obama disputes the eye witness account and she is not going with it because it is new max. The only way to be certain is to check with the secret service and I am sure obama would be more than happy to let reporters speak with them to clear the air. Therefore my suggestion would be to treat this as raw intelligence until it can be independently confirmed or rejected.

  286. wbboei
    The newsmax article was discussed here last night and everyone was emailing it to every news organization we could think of. I will bet the only Fox reports it. well, they just did report ir. It will get big air time tonight with the Fox anchors screaming loud and clear Obama lied!!

  287. rjk 1957: mea culpa. It just showed up in my inbox so I assumed it was current. In any event we shall see what comes of it. (Note: I do recall some discussion yesterday about checking with the secret service and this must have been it).

    timjcain: the associated press covered the st. patricks day parade and it showed up on yahoo. It would have been simple enough for them to cut and paste. Do you intend to follow up and see why it was not in the paper? It sounds like you are a subscriber. Perhaps they will reprint. I assume it was well covered by local television news programs. If we are going to have a problem with that newspaper we might as well know it now and be guided accordingly. Your decision.

  288. sherm says

    “Sen. Dodd says the American people don’t rely on guilt by association”

    Then we had better release from Bush’s hell hole in Cuba that American guy captured in Afghanistan who was hanging around with the wrong crowd.

  289. The story was all over the local tv news (self included) but i didn’t get around to the paper until this morning. It jest seemed logical to me that a record breaking parade with that star power would have warrented something. the high estimate for the crowds was 500k which would be twice the largest previous record. but one pic in the region section.

  290. Tim, about that parade, sometimes newspapers don’t get all of their little ducks in a row in time to meet a deadline. They often follow up at the next opportunity. Odd things happen in the newspaper business.

  291. The lack of a story on the parade featuring Hillary et. al. vs. the presence of a story on baby bambi is either intentional or coincidental. . . . Is that a republican or a democratic newspaper or do you know?

  292. I hope that is the case. It just seemed odd for the biggest area newspaper to not have coverage and then to have a 3/4 page article including photo with obama and his mother. Outside of sports this is a pretty boring place.

  293. The Dem’s can not nominate this guy. Are they kidding me? I almost feel bad for Obama, because I think he must be a very confused and conflicted person. But he’s proven himself a pathological liar. And, why in God’s name, did he run as a religious type Dem? This is political poison. Shame on the press for hiding this. Man, why didn’t he at least have the judgement to leave when Oprah did?

  294. my perception had always been that this was a pretty staunch democratic town. Never got a sense that the paper leaned strongly in any direction. It was then final eddition i was reading so perhaps they had more in the early and figured that the story had played itself out, but i still think a picture of the senator-the mayor and the governor would warrent a picture outside of the region section.

  295. TPS: interesting how kristol endorsed Bambi a couple months ago and is now repudiating him. Could it be that there is no honor among thieves –strike that Republicans.

  296. texan4hillary: you asked for more examples of caucus misconduct in Texas. You may wish to have someone contact my regional field director
    and I will alert her via email that someone may be contacting her. As you may recall we in Laredo and covered part of south texas where things went well thanks to the tremendous support Hillary has among texas hispanics-some of the finest people I have had the pleasure of working with.

  297. Another liar uncovered…. Ben Affleck while hosting a fund rasier for Obama last night was asked about the Wright sermons. Affleck responded that he had not seen them and had no comment…

  298. texan: for some reason the email address did not copy-as you can see from the blank spot in the prior email. The her email address is:

    ccole@hillaryclinton.com

    coincidentally, she is a former reporter for the Boston Globe and has a keen eye for things.

  299. timjcain: thought maybe they had a Mellon or two left in that venue running a newpaper in which case a republican angle was possible.

  300. well i am sure they have a copy of the paper in the office but i will drop it off any event. I just hate the cold weather here.

  301. TOP OF THE EVENIN TO YA !!!!
    DRANK A WEE BIT MUCH OF THE GREEN STUFF…
    SORRY IF THIS IS A REPEAT…
    SOME NCE FUNNY PERSON ON TAYLOR MARSH 🙂

    CNN and MSNBC in a competitive race for biggest Obama ass-kissing network. We are unable to make a projection at this time. Stay tuned.

    Wonk the Vote | 03.17.2008 – 5:05 pm | #

    UPDATE: we are now getting some numbers in. Let’s go to Joker King with the big stupid map.

    Joker King: as you can see the map is split into dark blue and light blue. The dark blue is MSNBC and the light blue is CNN. Right noe the whole map is practically dark blue, you’d think that means MSNBC is winning pretty impressively, but those areas all get lower ratings than the light blue, and they don’t win the demo. Once we start getting numbers in from these strongholds for CNN where all the ratings are, then we’ll have a much clearer picture of the race.

    Wonk the Vote | 03.17.2008 – 5:26 pm | #

    Update #2, for 30yrdem and ginaswo:

    Welcome back. Let’s go to Soledad “Latinos-are-switching-over-to-CNN” O’Lyin and Will “only-the-riff-raff-vote-for-MSNBC” Snide-r. They have some exit polling results for us.

    Will Snide-r: We asked viewers what is most important to them when choosing a news channel.

    Facts 5%
    Bullshit 95%

    90% of MSNBC viewers chose bullshit. Surprisingly, 90% of CNN viewers chose the same.

    An astounding 10% of CNN viewers chose Facts. Only 2% of MSNBC viewers chose facts. The remaining MSNBC viewers must have gotten distracted by their X-Box.

    Soledad O’Lyin: Oh, that’s so fascinating, Will. It looks like CNN has the edge with the fact-based community. And, according to our exit polls, CNN also gained 10 points over MSNBC in the viewership of South Americans, so CNN is clearly cracking into MSNBC’s Mexican base, too. Must have been that Mind of Mencia endorsement.

    Will Snide-r: That’s exactly right, Soledad. I am too tired to pick apart the holes in your logic, and I am just doing this job for the money, I don’t really care about statistics. All in all a very good day for CNN.

    Wonk the Vote | 03.17.2008 – 6:05 pm | #

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