We warned against enabling MSNBC/NBC. Last night Tim Russert and Brian Williams perfumed the air for Barack Obama and tried to hurt Hillary Clinton with “gotcha” questions and videos. Big Media tool Barack Obama cooperated with his Big Media trainers. Hillary still beat them.
Invoking a Saturday Night Live sketch, which mocked Big Media adulation and protection of their tool, Hillary put Tim Russert and Brian Williams on notice that she was prepared to take them on as well. That warning probably prevented a full out assault against Hillary. Still, the assault on Hillary was ugly. Even other Big Media outlets took notice of the bias:
I sometimes find the Clinton campaign’s complaints about the media hard to take, but that was a bit of an SNL re-enactment.
Russert just grilled Clinton, hard, on Nafta, and on her unfilled pledge to bring jobs to Upstate New York.
Williams’ question to Obama on experience: “How were her comments about you unfair?”
PINOs, Naderites and Barack Obama supporters applaud Big Media and the anti-Hillary bias of the broadcasts and print coverage. They have all lost the right to complain when Big Media trains its fire on behalf of John McCain and Republicans.
* * *
For a long time, we have discussed the Stinky Politics represented by Obama and his henchmen. We wrote:
Want to know how ’stinky’ the 2008 presidential race is going to get?
In the week of December 17, 2003 a very dirty advertisment appeared on Iowa television. The spokesman and (one of three) leader for the group that ran the ad was Robert Gibbs. Robert Gibbs is also the current communications director for Barack Obama.
The 2003 advertisment, just before the Iowa caucuses, morphed the face of Osama Bin Laden with the face of then frontrunner presidential candidate Howard Dean.
We quoted the Chicago Tribune regarding the Obama team’s thuggery:
Despite often lofty rhetoric that he plans to bring the nation a “new kind of politics,” Sen. Barack Obama has surrounded himself with operatives skilled in the old-school art of the political backstab. [snip]
When Obama assembled his crew early this year, he brought together a team with a long track record of the sort of caustic rhetoric he has pledged to avoid, just as other presidential candidates have done by hiring people similarly talented in the art of opposition research and attack. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) even hired some of the very people who trashed his 2000 presidential bid.
From his campaign headquarters in a high-rise on Michigan Avenue, Obama’s political warriors range from a research director with extensive experience in throwing darts from Democratic National Committee’s offices to a communications director who once worked for a group that ran a controversial ad that used an image of Osama bin Laden to attack Howard Dean.
Obama’s latest campaign hiccup started with documents that sarcastically questioned Clinton’s ties to India that were pitched to reporters on a not-for-attribution basis. The documents later became public, angering many Indian-American supporters.
Today, a real Professor, writes about the gap between Senator Barack Obama’s promises of a pure, soul-cleansing “new” politics and the calculated, deeply dishonest conduct of his actually-existing campaign. Professor Sean Wilentz continues where we left off:
Misleading propaganda is hardly new in American politics –although the adoption of techniques reminiscent of past Republican and special-interest hit jobs, right down to a retread of the fictional couple [Harry and Louise], seems strangely at odds with a campaign that proclaims it will redeem the country from precisely these sorts of divisive and manipulative tactics. As insidious as these tactics are, though, the Obama campaign’s most effective gambits have been far more egregious and dangerous than the hypocritical deployment of deceptive and disingenuous attack ads. To a large degree, the campaign’s strategists turned the primary and caucus race to their advantage when they deliberately, falsely, and successfully portrayed Clinton and her campaign as unscrupulous race-baiters–a campaign-within-the-campaign in which the worked-up flap over the Somali costume photograph is but the latest episode. While promoting Obama as a “post-racial” figure, his campaign has purposefully polluted the contest with a new strain of what historically has been the most toxic poison in American politics.
The Obama campaign gay bashing, gay baiting tour of South Carolina was also “egregious and dangerous”. Obama sought to exploit stereotypes, prejudice and ignorance to divide two jewels of the Democratic base, African-Americans and Gay Americans. That gay bashing tour was the dress rehearsal for the race baiting Professor Wilentz describes.
More than any other maneuver, this one has brought Clinton into disrepute with important portions of the Democratic Party. A review of what actually happened shows that the charges that the Clintons played the “race card” were not simply false; they were deliberately manufactured by the Obama camp and trumpeted by a credulous and/or compliant press corps in order to strip away her once formidable majority among black voters and to outrage affluent, college-educated white liberals as well as college students. The Clinton campaign, in fact, has not racialized the campaign, and never had any reason to do so. Rather the Obama campaign and its supporters, well-prepared to play the “race-baiter card” before the primaries began, launched it with a vengeance when Obama ran into dire straits after his losses in New Hampshire and Nevada–and thereby created a campaign myth that has turned into an incontrovertible truth among political pundits, reporters, and various Obama supporters. This development is the latest sad commentary on the malign power of the press, hyping its own favorites and tearing down those it dislikes, to create pseudo-scandals of the sort that hounded Al Gore during the 2000 campaign. It is also a commentary on how race can make American politics go haywire. Above all, it is a commentary on the cutthroat, fraudulent politics that lie at the foundation of Obama’s supposedly uplifting campaign.
Read the entire Sean Wilentz article. We’ll discuss it further in subsequent articles.
Today is Chelsea Clinton’s 28th birthday.
We all watched her grow up in the White House. We saw her parents protect her from the press, and make sure she had as normal a childhood as possible in the media glare. We were all proud of her when she went off to Stanford, and then on to a successful career in New York City. And, during this campaign, from coast to coast, Americans were awed by how much Chelsea has stepped up to the plate to support her mother on the campaign trail. I’ve never met Chelsea, but I’m so very proud of her, and so happy she has been making a difference reaching out to young voters for her mother.
I just contributed $28.44 to Hillary’s campaign, in honor of Chelsea’s 28th birthday, and .44 in honor of Hillary becoming the 44th President of the United States.
Can you match my contribution and get others to do the same?
https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=3
I usually spend about $10 a day buying lunch, so, I figure, if I just brown bag it for the 3 days left in this week, that covers it.
Let’s send a birthday message to Chelsea, and encouragement to Hillary after her fantastic debate performance last night (from Cleveland, Ohio — my hometown!).
Kevin DuJan
Chicago, IL
the sean willenz race article is must reading for everyone
hang in there hillfans..if she can..so can we
I’m going to go take a nap, and then get back on the phone for Hillary. What a long, dreary day here in East TN.
(repost from other thread)
We’re not allowed to say his name coz that’s fear-mongering.
We’re not allowed to view pictures of him coz that’ fear-mongering AND idolotrous. (You shalt not make images of God and You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.)
We’re not allowed to say Jackson won SC coz that’s racist.
We’re not allowed to point out his inconsistencies on policies because that’s anti-affirmative action.
CENSORSHIP!!!!!!!! Repeal of Freedom of Speech!!!!!!!! Overturning the First Ammendment!
And today even rush (who I listen to while driving as he’s the only radio station I get)
did a similar routine about the hands-off Obamarama thing and said (this cracked me up) “since we can’t say his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, I guess that means we can’t initialize his name, as we do with many presidents, GWB, LBJ, RR,. and I guess that means I’ll have to refer to him as BO.
I just call him HWSNBN.
He Who Shall Not Be Named
basil9 : LOL at him actually calling him BO.
you guys are really funny today….but we do need to have a good laugh in all this seriousness.
H44 admin, just want to say that I think your predictions were so right….
IDunn: didn’t Prince do something like that before….had no name?
that’s it….he had a symbol for his name.
Idunn,
I like HWSNBN. Or maybe we should just start calling him YAHWEH.
@idunn: we’re really close… youre in east tn and i’m in west nc… it snowed here last night! its fuh-reeezing here!!!
p/s if anyone wants the email addys of unommitted SDs… i have the dem govs and senators… let me know!
dedfg,
Yup. he renamed himself ‘The Artist Formerly Known as Prince’.
@fran: what predictions?
The Candidate Formery Know As Barack Hussein Obama.
Here’s his symbol ^=^
yes, send that in an email to Rush: HWSNBN lol
diva,
just got back.
Are these lists different from what you posted earlier? If so, could you send them to hilaryhawke at mhcable dot com?
Diva, aren’t you in Ashville? That’s about an hour and a half from me.
What this site said/showed in Stinky Politics http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=230, that the race would be stinky….
Ooops, my last post was meant for Diva….
Diva Bunny, thank you for the nudge and the link!!!!
My letter to John lewis:
Dear Rep. Lewis, I am so extremely disappointed in your decision to desert Hillary Clinton as this moment, when she MOST needs your visible support. I find your decision to back Barack Obama embarrassing, confounding and YES, cowardly. Since I am not a resident of GA, you might consider this none of my business. But as an American, I feel I MUST repeat how deeply, DEEPLY disapponted I am in your behavior. You have ruined my day, sir, by reinforcing one of the most terribly deperessing lessons I have learned from this campaign: that in politics, we cannot trust even our closest and longest-known friends. Hopefully you have not also ruined America’s chance to have a truly extraordinary president in Hillary Clinton. I have watched while Hillary has been abandoned by her colleagues, friends and constituents for a new, fresh face with less experience. Shame on all of you.
I’ve had 3 replies from the governors I contacted today. My old stomping ground Wva Governor sent more of a form letter…Bredesen of Ky just sent a thank you.
My governor here in Tennessee sent a really heartfelt response .. covering Tn issues as well as encouragement for the election itself. I got warm and fuzzy, even though it’s cold as ice outside and snowing bits all day.
Idunn, it is dreary, dreary, here and I don’t feel like I’ve gotten much accomplished today.
Off topic .. has anyone here known anybody who has had Testosterone Pellets implanted in the hips for testosterone replacement/osteoporosis treatments? Hubby is -3 on the bone density scale, takes Actonel and an injection every day of Forteo .. now they want to implant these T pellets in his hips.
admin: What is a PINO?
Hey all,
I have posted the cnn video that begins today’s thread at mydd. Please go and recommend it now so we can get it out there all day today.
Finally!!!
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/27/15507/6279
Dot, you must be tired. You wrote “Bredesen of KY”.
please go ahead and comment on Wilentz’s article and show your support for what he is saying (because I think this is the truth and I know you think so too). Commenting is easy — you don’t have to register.
http://www.tnr.com/talkback.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304
anyone? What is a PINO?
TPS: I believe it’s Progressive In Name Only. It seems there are lots of those floating around america….
What is a PINO?
Please Incinerate Narcissistic Obama?
(I really don’t have a clue)
Fran,
Good to see you here.
Idunn…yes, I’m exhausted. Ky = Beshear … too many B’s today LOL.
$4.00 gas prices by spring MY GAWD! Hurry up warmer weather so I can head out on the motorcycle. Hubby only drives his big diesel truck now to go to the dump. My car is 10 years old but still runs really good and gets really good mileage.
Idunn…can I get that laundry detergent recipe. Already, doing the homemade dog food.
I hope the congress passes something to cut gas tax.
::giggling::
That pic of HWSNBN in somali gear does look alittle like someone T.P.ed him.
I have a pressing mathematical question.
If SNL claims MSM is in the tank for BO (aka HWSNBN,) and DNC is in the tank for BO, does it follow that DNC is in the tank for MSM or vice versa?
Idunn, funny ^=^.
Idunn…can I get that laundry detergent recipe. Already, doing the homemade dog food.
Sure. Want me to post it here or send it to your email?
See this amazing TV appearance by Lanny davis Hillary supporter on MSNBC via NoQuarterUSA
Truthtelling from Lannie Davis (What about “Iron My Shirt”?) »
By SusanUnPC on February 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Patrick Fitzgerald, Tony Rezko, Iraq | 0 Comments
noquarterusa.net/blog/
Lanny effectively points out Obama’s wishy-washy Iraq record and defends Hillary magnificently. Even Jow Scarborugh admitted that President Clinton’s “fairy tale” remark was addressed to Obama’s war record. Lanny also points out that it is the Obama campiagn that played the race card. Watch it yourself.
As much as I love the Ann Richards video, I had a feeling something like this might happen especially since I have not heard anything about Cecile Richards endorsing Hillary like she did for her Senate runs.
youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/27/son-of-late-texas-gov-richards-objects-to-clinton-video-alluding-to-moms-support/
Heads up–
The cnn video is powerful and now the obamabots at mydd are trying to make it disappear. Please don’t let them do it. Go and recommend it and please tell anyone else you know to recommend it too.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/27/15507/6279
I’ve got a splitting headache
I’m feeling sick all over. Fast, someone send some ObamaHolyWater my way and one of his used hankies. I’m sure the one he blowed his nose on would heal me of all future illness coming my way as well.
Hubby can maybe strap one of those used hankies on his hips (ewwww) and be healed as well.
Wonder when they’ll start selling HopeInABox.
Hi again, Jan–nice to see and hear from you too
D.
Keep at it, everyone,
Fran
@idunn: an hour and a half is nothing, “in these parts”… did you guys get snow last night?
@fran: thanks! i didnt know if it was some astrological prediction…
@basil: check your email.. ive consolidated it so that the addys are all in one place. it makes it MUCH easier to email them…
@dot: ive gotten some responses too, but just acknowledging that they received my message, not saying “YES! Of course i will endorse Hillary!!!” oh well… i’ll keep trying!
Fran, welcome back and thanks for the PINO explanation. Hope you are doing well.
Dot, here’s a good link for the laundry soap.
http://www.thefamilyhomestead.com/laundrysoap.htm
I don’t make mine exactly the same way though. I use 1/2 bar of fels naptha soap, 1/2 c. borax , and 1 c. washing soda.
If you can’t find fels naptha soap easily, use a whole bar of Kirks Castille Soap or a whole bar of Octagon Soap.
I pour my prepared soap into old gallon detergent bottles that I cut the little spout out of. You’ll need to vigorously shake the soap before each use. It’s alittle “gloopy”. Works great though and costs about .60 cents a gallon.
@tps: i did see that on morning joe this morning. lanny was H.O.T.!!!
i just wish everyone would have been so adamant abt this iraq issue a month ago!!!
About John Lewis. This guy has fought the good fight his whole life. He is being called a traitor to his race and they have found a young guy to run against him. I feel sympathy for him. I wish he hadn’t caved, but they have threatened his whole life. I am sure the pressure has been beyond unbearable. And he has held out a long time. What we have to do is make sure people know he was pressured into it by some very unscrupulous obamathugs.
an hour and a half is nothing, “in these parts”… did you guys get snow last night?
Yep. And still having bouts of snow. Normally, I love it…today it’s just another pain in my ass.
“Gov. Matt Blunt of Missouri also opened with a joke about a fellow, if Democratic, governor and the party’s leading candidate for president in the delegate chase: Sen. Barack Obama.
“What a great crowd!” Blunt told the crowd. “At least, that’s what Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick told me to say.”
Deval, an influential member of the Obama campaign, has lent the senator from Illinois some phrases, which have led some to accuse the senator of plagiarism in his speeches.”
weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/obama_jokes_dime_a_dozen_at_11.html
You’re welcome and I hope you’re doing well too, TPS! I’m still at it–won’t stop till I drop.
Cut and paste “happybirthdaychelsea.blogspot.com”
http://happybirthdaychelsea.blogspot.com/
idunn.. email me: wvgal571@yahoo.com
^^ excuse above .. I need to get off the net, I’m seriously out of whack today. Hmm..wonder what my horoscope says. I’m a 10/31 have no idea what time I was born.
PINO=PROGRESSIVE IN NAME ONLY
DOT, before you go see the link I provided for the soap recipe!
I sent Mr. Lewis an email. I simply wished him well and expressed my disappointment that he “bailed”. Short and sweet. I’m not proud of him at all.
I call him a frenenemy. Friend while the going is good, enemy when the going gets tough.
Sorry folks, that is my humble opinion. I hope Hillary and Bill keep little black books.
Fox news reporting that McAuliffe says Clinton and Obama could be the ticket … only if she is on top. Over my dead and ranting body. That is the only way that arsehole would have me check a box by his name.
@dot48,
I have this vision of Mrs. Obama fighting Bill Clinton for the right to decorate the White House for Christmas…lol… Somehow I think it is Mrs. Obama that will fight to the end for top billing.
dot48 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I sent Mr. Lewis an email. I simply wished him well and expressed my disappointment that he “bailed”. Short and sweet. I’m not proud of him at all.
—————-
I also sent him a message on his web page saying if a man of his principles and convictions cannot stand his ground, who else can?
No-one will ever coerce me into voting for HWSNBN…not on ANY ticket.
wow……..what a powerful article.
For most of us that do not see the underbelly of most campaigns this is very insightful as to how the Clintons lost support among black voters, and shamefully so.
It’s absolutely refreshing to see a writer tell it like it is, without denigrating the persons, but the actions of others.
We can only hope (why is that word ugly to me now) that more media will stick to reporting the news than making it.
hahaha. People are watching the cnn video at mydd and going nutz. One guy insisted it wasn’t a ‘real diary.’ Then when he was called out on that he said the link didn’t work anymore. These obama people will say anything.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/27/15507/6279
Recommend it to keep the video up on the site all day. Over 2,000 people belong to that website. It’s worth a few clicks…
Divabunny, I think that is exactly the point that Lanni Davis was making. They HAVE been trying to hammer this point home, but the media REFUSES to listen. In New Hampshire, that is EXACTLY the point that Bill was hammering home, and instead of listening to his broader point and investigating, they crucified him for being “racist.” At the South Carolina debate, Hillary spelled it out very forcefully and the media did not care to listen. They HAVE been trying to hammer this point about Iraq out over and over again, but it is REALLY difficult for the message to get any traction at all if the media just won’t cover it, or if they just discredit it by saying whoever said it is a racist. I mean I have friends supporting Obama who, to this day, think the fairy tale comment was about race and don’t care what Bill Clinton really said. It is awful, but I just want to point out that they have tried, and they have tried hard, to get this message out there but it is impossible when the media keeps censoring them.
Dot, I think McAuliffe was saying it like “Sure, it could happen” not that it will happen, even if she is at the top of the ticket. Also, remember what IDunn said about things being revealed March 8-12, I have read about the significance of these dates for him elsewhere too, so I think it is an important time to watch. Opening statements for Rezko start March 6th…
Obama says he wants to do away with lobbyists and corporate influence in Washington, then why has he accepted more money from Utility Companies supporting burning coal than Hillary? He has received $248,000 this cycle compared to Hillary’s $200,000. I would say something about a pot and a kettle, but do not want to be called a racist.
youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/27/coal-interests-come-on-strong-in-crucial-election-year/
2 more days in February and then we’ve come to March and now the scales will balance out. We all knew this month was going to be the hardest one yet but Hillary is still standing, the race is still very close with all the media tampering.
Remember, Hillary won those states dems have to win come November, NOT Obama. So when Obama and the media keep saying it’s a given that he can win those states Hillary Clinton won…just say FLORIDA! That state only is pissed at him…then say California…I.DON’T THINK SO….correct that, I KNOW HE WON’T WIN THAT STATE, TOO MANY MISTAKES and a very popular republican Governor. I could go on but I know my state and where the true power lies and it ain’t Oakland.
For some reason I feel very, very good about our chances at the convention. Obama has been getting a free ride from the media and getting away with saying nothing on his plan but copying Hillary’s. Which is a huge compliement for Hillary, since Obama like it so much.
Remember Obama is a Ponzi Scheme that will eventually collapse and what will be interesting is how many people he will bring down with him.
Oh crap!! Bill Cunningham now saying he is supporting Hillary. Just what we need…….
How the words “fairy tale” could be taken as relating in any way to race is beyond me.
It shows how cynical they are, and how determined to call the Clintons racist, no matter how far fetched.
linfar: The father of Douglas MacArthur won the Congressional Medal of Honor at the Battle of Missionary Ridge in the Civil War. Looking back on it 40 years later he marvelled at how his life from that day forward had been defined by what he did in the short span of 16 minutes.
There are times when a leader needs to hold the high moral ground even though the troops want to surrender. I remember when Lewis praised Clinton for her commitment to civil rights and called Obama a Johnny Come Lately.
NO problem rjk, she will denounce his endorsement, and he might encourage some repubs to cross over and vote for her in texas and diminish the impact of obama’s crossovers
Luntz’s focus group from last night
youtube.com/watch?v=iDjt8BF-h1o
wbboei, I hear you. And I know it is sad. I think if all John Lewis had to do was hold his ground for 16 minutes he could have done it. In fact he has held his ground for months and months. But the pressure has been unrelenting. That is why I think we need to write all the super delegates who are holding firm for Hillary and thank them. But a lot of them are not experiencing the kind of pressure put on Lewis and some of the others. It has been murderous. Still, I think thank yous are in order.
Please go and recommend this one to keep the cnn video up at mydd.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/27/15507/6279
Hi folks,
There is supposedly a youtube video circulating which is from the debate last night.
It’s that “jump ball” question that Russert threw out there about Russia. The video highlights that when the question was asked, BO immediately turns toward Hillary. She, of course, answers it. It’s obvious that it was a question that BO had no clue about.
Has anybody seen the video of this?
thoughts…
ive been trying to compile the contact info for the uncommitted SDs… i did fine for the senators and governors, but its a nightmare trying to get through to the state reps. it seems as if you have to live in their district to be able to send them an email.
think we should just skip ‘em???
@mango: i know what youre saying abt the msm… and i am not being negative here, but i have seen lanny on several shows and this was the very first time that i heard him be as emphatic as he was this morning on the issue. same thing with hillary last night. she spelled it out last night better than ive heard her do any other time in the campaign. i’m happy and i just hope its not too late!
The Democrats neo-lefts are turning off their moderates and non Obama worshipers with their outrageous behavior. It will not help them in the GE.
But I feel very strong about this, Hillary is weathering the attacks from TEAM OBAMA and she is still standing even with all the establishment backing given to Obama. Because when you really honest about Obama, there is this nagging thought that he is not ready for the job of “President and Commander in Chief.”
So let the delegate counting continue…Hillary Clinton is the true grassroot candidate and represents core democrats…yes even some African Americans support Hillary.
You have to fight back against Thugs and not let them get away with this crap.
Admin. excellent post and I totally agree with you about arrogant MSNBC/NBC.
Regarding CNN video, I’ll will believe they’ve will correct the bias or is just covering their behind but SNL embarrassed CNN and I hope SNL keep showing the media in the “tank” for Obama.
Hey wbboei, I hear you. I think if all Lewis had to do was stand his ground for 16 minutes he would have done so–and in fact he did–for months and months. The pressure on him has been murderous. What we have to do is publicize that pressure. And I am also going to thank the super delegates that are hanging strong for Hillary. And there are a lot of them too.
Please don’t forget to recommend this one to keep the cnn story up at mydd
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/27/15507/6279
Well, almost time for my phone calls. I have gotten to hate doing this, but I will do it.
These contests just matter so much
Sorry. Can’t get this to post. hope it’s not a duplicate. Here is my SD letter.
Dear Senator ,
As a long-time Democrat and an ardent Clinton supporter, I urge you to endorse Senator Clinton as the Democratic presidential nominee.
She is the superior candidate on issue after issue, from her plan for Universal health Coverage, to her determination to create Green jobs, to her unwavering resolve in confronting international crises. She clearly possesses the experience, the knowledge, the temperament and the intellect for the position of president of the US.
In addition, I have been appalled at the obvious DNC bias toward Senator Barack Hussein Obama from their refusal to consider seating the Florida and Michigan delegates to suggestions Senator Clinton should concede the race.
Perhaps you are not aware of the Mr. Obama’s nasty strategy for attacking a fellow democrat and its similarities to the Karl Rove attack machine of the 2000 and 2004 presidential races. Mr. Obama has not only falsely portrayed Senator Clinton’s positions on NAFTA, the Iraq War and Universal health coverage, he has also launched a campaign to convince Republicans and independents to cast their vote in the primaries and caucuses for him as a way to defeat Senator Clinton.
As a result, approximately 9% of his voters have come from factions that will invariably abandon him to vote for Senator McCain in the General Election.
This reprehensible strategy, called “Democrat for a Day,” urges non-democrats to switch parties during the primaries, a tactic that smacks of Voter fraud and disenfranchisement. The skewed results are clearly not representative of the will of real democrats with whom Senator Clinton maintains a solid lead.
Here are links to the Obama materials I cite.
WANNA BECOME AN OBAMACRAT?!!!
By Obama Florida 2008
Published: April 24, 2007
….
That’s why “Democrat for a Day” was launched this spring by ObamaFlorida2008. Using the official forms provided by all Supervisors of Elections offices, you may re-register as a Democrat for that one day — when the primary is likely to be held — on February 5, 2008. You must do so before the end of 2007, to make sure it is done 30 days before the primary.
But this is not about some “hard sell” to recruit voters to become permanent Democrats. Not at all. After the primary, you may re-register back to the
Republican or Libertarian parties, or revert to your previous status as an Independent! There will be plenty of time before the general election in November 2008.
….
But we’re finding that up to 20 percent of Obama supporters are registered Republicans.
In fact, during the first couple of weeks in April, some 150 Republicans indeed became “Democrats for a Day.” You might call them “Obamacrats!”
A similar flyer was distributed in Nevada by an Obama precinct captain and there is another circulating in Texas.
Finally, I find it ironic that Howard Dean and the DNC are calling for donations to help prevent John McCain from ‘breaking the law by ignoring the campaign spending restrictions for the Republican primary that came when he asked for federal matching funds.’ If Mr. Dean is so outraged about Senator McCain, it seems he should be equally outraged that Mr. Obama is manipulating the Florida and Michigan delegate controversy to his advantage in order to deny Senator Clinton a fair shot at the nomination through sleazy political schemes his “Wanna Be an Obamacrat” pitch.
In conclusion, I sincerely hope you will take into consideration Senator Clinton’s long public service record, her unflagging dedication to the Democratic Party and her superior
Qualifications in deciding who, as a Super Delegate, you will support.
Thank you for your time,
Basil: Great letter.
For most of us that do not see the underbelly of most campaigns this is very insightful as to how the Clintons lost support among black voters, and shamefully so.
As Bill said, Blacks supported Jesse Jackson Sr in about the same proportions. They didn’t turn against the Clintons, they just came out for someone of their own group as soon as he looked like a ‘viable’ candidate.
What the ‘racist’ thing did was cause a lot of confusion and make Bill and others afraid to say anything.
bama & Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright & Farakahn: One Degree of Seperation Add to Hotlist
by dem dem, Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 03:45:39 PM EST
Last night in the debate when Russert asked Obama about Louis Farakahn’s endorsement of him, the discussion got bogged down in the semantics of the word “reject”. What wasn’t mentioned was one of the greatest risks of choosing Obama as our nominee, the relationship between Obama’s friend and Pastor, the Rev. Wright and “Minister” Louis Farakahn and why it took Obama twenty years and a Presidential campaign to get around to finally condemning it.
Obviously Obama is not a “secret muslim”, he’s a Christian. He is no antisemite, and I assume he’s never even met Farakahn.
Obama doesn’t have a Farakahn problem, Rev. Wright does.
But Obama DOES have a Rev. Wright problem, which means so do we.
Image and video hosting by TinyPic
There are hundreds of churches on the South Side of Chicago that Obama could have chosen from, but he selected the one that was headed by Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Obama has called Wright his spiritual mentor, his moral compass and his sounding board. He was the man who gave Obama the term, “The Audacity of Hope” after all. The church also is the largest recipient of Obama’s charitable donations. The pastor married Obama and his wife Michelle and baptized his two daughters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wr ight
Trinity United Church of Christ IS Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
When Wright became the senior pastor in 1972, the church’s membership totaled 87. It now has the largest congregation in the United Church of Christ with over 8,000 members.
The problem is Wright also is a supporter of Louis Farrakhan, a man who called Judaism a “gutter religion”. Farrakhan has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government, the media, and some black organizations.
In the 80s Rev. Wright traveled with Farrakhan to visit Col. Muammar al-Gaddafi, archenemy of Israel’s and a confirmed terror supporter responsible for the bombing of the TWA jet over Lochabee Scotland that took hundreds of American lives .
http://www.adl.org/travels_with_tyrants/libya.asp
After their trip to Libya, in 1985, the Col.Gaddafi spoke by satellite to Farrakhan’s NOI’s Saviour’s Day Convention in Chicago, and told Farrakhan supporters that he was prepared to provide weapons to a black army in the U.S. to destroy “white America.”
Now thats some crazy talk indeed.
Like Farrakhan, the anti-Israel statements of Wright have been well chronicled.:
The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for almost 40 years now. It took a divestment campaign to wake the business community up concerning the South Africa issue. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community up and to wake Americans up concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.
On the Sunday after 9/11, Wright said the attacks were a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later, Wright suggested that the attacks were retribution for America’s racism.
“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just `disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”
In one of his sermons, Wright said,
“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”
Just before Obama’s nationally televised campaign kickoff rally last Feb. 10, the candidate disinvited Wright from giving the public invocation. Wright explained: “When [Obama's] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, “a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”
According to Wright, Obama then told him, “‘You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.’” But privately, Obama and his family prayed with Wright just before the presidential announcement.
But if Obama rejects Wright’s warped view of this country, why does he continue to attend his church, raising the question of whether Obama secretly agrees with his friend and mentor? At the least, Obama’s membership in Wright’s church suggests a lack of judgment and an insensitivity to views that are repugnant to the vast majority of Americans .
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/obama_distances.html
In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said “truly epitomized greatness.” That man is Louis Farrakhan. The “Honorable Minister” Louis Farrakhan received the “Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer” Award at the 2007 Trumpet Gala at the United Church of Christ. Wright is quoted in the magazine offering praise of Farrakhan.
Hailing Farrakhan’s “integrity and honesty,” Wright said,
“He is one of the 20th and. 21st century giants of the African American religious experience” “When Minister Farrakhan speaks, black America listens,” Wright said. “His depth on analysis when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening. He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”His love for Africa and African-American people has made him an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change, and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose.”
Last month the Sun Times reported:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/ob ama/743050,CST-NWS-sweet16b.stng
Following a column in Tuesday’s Washington Post noting that a magazine linked to Obama’s minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, honored Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, Barack Obama said he condemned “the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan” and disagreed with a decision to honor him.
Obama said in the statement. “I assume that Trumpet Magazine made its decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree.”
This statement by Obama is a political maneuver that should be given little credence. Obama is very actively involved in his church; he knew of this award long before Richard Cohen publicized its grant to Farrakhan. Furthermore, Pastor Wright has had a long relationship and alliance with Louis Farrakhan. Obama did not object to these ties between Pastor Wright and Farrakhan before; nor has Obama rejected the anti-Israel diatribes of Wright. Regardless, Obama adheres to a church and a minister that have long espoused positions that were pro Farakahn and his Nation of Islam and inimical to the American-Israel relationship.
Has he called for change in the anti-Israel approach of the church? No.
Has he called for Wright and Trinity to reject and condemn Farakahn ? No.
For nearly two decades, Obama has identified strongly with Trinity and hasn’t been shy about discussing his closeness to its pastor.
Again, Wright’s use of “audacity of hope” in one sermon inspired Obama to borrow those words as the title of his best-selling book, “The Audacity of Hope.”
In an earlier memoir, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama also tells how he was moved to tears during that sermon by Wright, an early proponent of the black liberation and black theology movements that gained ground in the 1960s.
Obama describes what he calls “a forceful wind carrying the reverend’s voice up into the rafters” and how he “felt for the first time how that spirit carried within it, nascent, incomplete, the possibility of moving beyond our narrow dreams.”
According to a 2006 article on the United Church of Christ’s Web site,”
He said he was drawn to Trinity because, “I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world.”
A world where Trinity’s Pastor travels with America’s best known antisemite to meet with enemies of both Israel and the US.
Rev. Wright called Obama “the nation’s first (and maybe even only) honest candidate offering himself for public service as the person to occupy the Oval Office.”
But remember, he also called Farakahn a man “of great integrity and honesty”.
My worry is, does the relationships shared between these three men, between Obama and Wright and Wright and Farakahn show a problem of such individual bad judgment, that it justly puts our Party at risk of losing the most important election of our lives.
linfar, if i did it right, i recommended your post, and let a few comments as well…artistes will do that sometimes ;-D
Basil,I would just say Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton if you are going to use BOs full name. Yes, it is stupid, ITS HIS NAME, but I think it is better to balance it with her full name,.
bail: great letter and pm: great video. I am actually amazed how over a period of time the American people have the ability to figure out the difference between empty words and action, hot air and specifics. This is why I am becoming more and more confident that Hillary will win Ohio and Texas fairly comfortable. She will go on to win Pensylvania and the Barack’s star is fading.
What Wilentz wrote is absolutely correct. I have been working on a ‘race card’ diary over at that Orange Satan place for over a month or so, and it is obvious from the facts that Team Obama made a very conscious and calculated decision to bring out the race card after New Hampshire. I’m sure Nevada helped as well, but it was the shocking NH defeat which brought out the full brunt of the BS race crap from Team Obama before the all-important South Carolina primary.
So far, this has been one of the most embarrassing, pathetic nomination contests I can recall. Democrats (well, actually Indys and GOPers — Dems have supported Hillary) are on the verge of one of the largest political blunders I can recall, and that is going back further than my own lifetime.
This is the kind of rare thing you can see happen when you get a combination of factors such as outright media hatred for a candidate combined with malicious crossover voters (and Indys), a 20-year GOP plan to destroy a family and an almost zombie-esque demonstration of lock-step identity politics.
Make no mistake: We are on the verge of calamity here.
That John McCain ‘rebuke’ of the speaker who kept referring to BO as ‘Barack Hussein Obama?’ Yeah, put that in the scrapbook, because you won’t be hearing or seeing that for long.
Limbaugh is already in steady BO-trashing mode, with a dedicated, ‘official’ AA Obama criticizer. The guy reads his stuff in ‘normal’ English, and then in Ebonics.
As many have lamented that HRC is the first legit female POTUS candidate, as many or more lament that BO is the first legit AA POTUS candidate. It is a travesty, IMO.
The most ridiculous, pathetic thing of ALL of this is that after EIGHT FREAKING YEARS of Dubya, we are
about to almost ensure that we will have 4 more years of GOP White House presence. That is the reality which is the most troubling to me. If Dems can’t win the White House after 8 years of Bush, when are we going to win it?
Nothing is over yet. There is still much to be done. However, as soon as the nominee is locked up, it is time to immediately begin the reforms process for how we choose a nominee. No more superdelegates;
no more open primaries (including Indys); no more caucuses; no more Iowa and New Hampshire first bullsh*t; etc.
DEMS need to pick Dem nominees, and superdelegates should have no say. Closed proportional primaries are the only way to go. And the absurd proportionality given some districts in TX, for example, over others, needs to be reined-in as well.
No more amateur stuff — time for FULL reform. In 4 years, when we’re looking for someone to knock off McCain (or hopefully when McCain steps down and the Oval Office is open), our Party needs to have ALL of its act together. No more crap, no more malicious Republicans screwing things up, etc.
We are almost finished utterly blowing this nomination process. Hopefully, that can be changed before the ruinous end is reached.
But, even if it cannot, the challenges ahead are clear: We must take steps to overhaul these primaries and make them as good as they can be, which is one hell of a long way from where we are today.
If and when Obama wins the nomination, there is going to be a change of narrative the likes of which
he and his supporters are not ready for, and it’s going to be ugly, swift and heavy-handed.
As a Dem, I am not looking forward to that.
I hope that McCain’s term is not overly disastrous. But if it is, I know who will deserve one hell of a lot of the blame.
But for now, Go Hillary.
@basil: awesome letter!!! check your email… i just sent you a bunch of email addys… i put them in a word doc so its easier… those are the ppl i emailed today.
IDUnn….gas prices will probably not go down. The house just passed an $18 BILLION dollar tax increase (has to get thru the Senate, I guess) to the Oil Companies. Look forward to trickle down economics.
I wrote John Lewis a few weeks ago. Today he said the decision was harder than walking across the Edmond Pettis Bridge, where he was beaten to within an inch of his life.
Again, the thugs of racism raise their ugly heads.
God Bless John Lewis.
I’m watching Neil Cavuto on Fox, and he’s saying the same thing I’ve been trying to point out… Hillary doesn’t need to win Ohio and Texas because the delegate count is so close at this point that as long as she stays close and keeps her advantage in big democratic states she still has a chance. FINALLY someone who agrees with me!!
I think the Hillary Campaign is starting to warm to this idea too, as they are already starting to downplay expectations in Texas. Just now on Fox, a news correspondent in Ohio explained that Hillary’s campaign was talking more and more about how they expected to do well in Ohio, regardless of what happens in Texas.
Did anyone else here see that?
hey… did anyone see the exchange btwn mccain and obama abt iraq today?
i just watched the clips on hardball… take notice of the way obama was talking… was he TRYING to impersonate bill cosby??? he sounded like he was either drunk OR doing one of those jell-o pudding commericals???
@Universal “Make no mistake: We are on the verge of calamity here.”
as i wrote earlier today in the other thread. And to all the Radiotalkers.
I could not agree with you more either in the present or about the future for this Party and it’s process.
Good post.
@levon: i didnt see it, but we talked abt it last night… i couldnt agree more… regardless of texas, if she wins ohio, its a no brainer for her to stay in!
theres a trend w/barry… he cant win the working middle class, therefore if he’s the candidate, the dems lose in the GE… i think this should influence the DNC, party elders and SDs…
i feel ill… mccauliffe said today that its a strong possibilty that hrc and bho will end up on the same ticket.
vomit!
diva, unless he self-destructs, which could happen between now and august…rezko is coming,
Diva,
Got it! great. I will start sending the email now, after a couple of tweaks to the letter. Don’t know why some words and punctuation don’t show up on forum.
Mangomist,
yes, you are right. Rather than using his full name (though i Lurve it – as dot would say) I’ll use Senator as the tilte for both of them.
Also just now on Fox, they reported that McCauliffe mentioned that Hillary and bambi could possibly be on the same ticket. That, combined with the earlier news about her going on after March 4 regardless of the outcome, makes me wonder if she is trying to vie for the VP slot. I sure hope they aren’t thinking that way.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece
divabunny: how can Clinton and Obama end up on the same ticket?
New Poll
Rassmussen, on National Security
McCain beats Obama 55-30
Among Dems Only (are they REAL Dems?) still not great for Bambi
51-29 over McCain.
SHE MUST keeppressing Natl Security Credentials. The RW will take care of the ME questions. We may actually end up with a fair fight.
Also, BBill Cunningham just said (and I don’t know if it is blowing smoke) that he has a meeting with Team Clinton in about “a week and a half” to endorse her! LOL
@divabunny: did you hear that McCauliffe described it as a ’strong possibility’? When it was reported on Fox, they just said he thinks it could be a possibility. The word ’strong’ was missing from their language.
Levon, I have heard a few of those stories today. I THINK it might be because they are hearing that SO MANY HC supporters will vote McCain if Stinky ends up as the nom.
I can’t see it.
But politics make strange bedfellows.
Also, they must head off the thoughts that the six degrees of seperation with Rev Wright, Farrakhan and Rezko is starting to get problematic.
I think it is a bait and switch. Use with caution.
there is NO way they could be on the same ticket!!! gawd i PRAY she isnt thinking that way!!!!
Levon, I don’t think so. From a reliable source inside the campaign, it is unlikely she would accept the VP spot. Can’t say more, but at least this person indicated he/she would be very surprised.
@SpacegirlArt: is Hillary beating McCain 51-29 on National Security? There is no explanation for the 51-29 number.
remember i posted abt the seiu 527 that is dumping 700k in texas & ohio this week???
here is one of the pro-obama spots their running:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssoLxWHHqWk
CNN is about to do a story on the Farrakahn/Wright connection, and also one on Obama’s record on the Foreign Relations Committee.
Follow the money.
THOUSANDS of people have no doubt written to the DNC about
Their unfair treatment of Clinton
Their screw up with Florida and Michigan
Their compliance in the MSM gang rape of OUR SENATOR
The SD problem
The Dem for a Day debacle
The caucus stuffing and vote flipping
and people , these THOUSANDS of people, are saying “Screw You”.Dean’s money tree is losing it’s leaves.
Hillary Clinton just became releent
relevant
IndependentBen! Really?
there must be ANOTHER God.
SpaceGirlArt and mangomist3:
wonder why McCauliffe would put that out there? are they trying to make it easier for bambi’s supporters to vote for Hillary, knowing that a vote for her wouldn’t leave bambi out of the picture? that idea makes some sense to me.
it’s on now…
Happy Birthday Chelsea…I sent $28.44 to your moms campaign in your honor.
WOW
And look at Dodd in full CYA mode.
LOL Obama has to JUDGEMENT to not NEED hearings HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
……: where’s my magic wand :………
ANNOTHER apologist…his resolution is strong going forward…about IRAQ..this is about AFGHANISTAN!!!!!
Bugala taking it on…
LOL
I’ll stop with the play-by-play
CNN’s piece is not that hard-hitting though. It annoys me that they are ONLY doing this after Hillary called the media out on SNL…
Go Begala!
@levon: i heard it on hardball… ive been flipping back and forth.
Of course LEvon, and it leads me to “wonder” that the SD’s and DNC may be having some smoky-room discussions after all.
Okay, I’m waiting now for this Farrakahn story. Did anybody in the debate notice that he denounced Farrakahn’s “anti-semitic” remarks, but didn’t say anything about the “anti-white” remarks that Farrakahn has made. And he said nothing about his pastor’s (Wright’s) connections to Farrakahn.
mang…i agree…but a win is a win.
they are TALKING (sorta)…not worshiping
that is a win
old habits die hard
just watch the development of the turning the MSM ship
From TM.. I looked for the author’s email but could not find it — will be a good idea to send him the link to Wilentz’s article in TNR.
I found this in the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Obama’s lies are finally starting to catch up to him.
Spread the word
http://www.cleveland.com/letters/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1204018291153120.xml&coll=2
Nancy | 02.27.2008 – 3:24 pm | #
Spacegirl: what are these “smoky-room discussions about? Pro-Hillary or Obama?
Does anyone know, if a 527 group is contributing to Senator Clinton’s campaign? i have reached my limit.
“LOL Obama has to JUDGEMENT to not NEED hearings HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!”
–What the–who said that? Dodd? Is it about the no-meetings-Obama-not-doing-his-job stuff? How dare that person. To keep smooth ties with other places and a whole bunch of other things today, this country likely NEEDS those meetings. This should not be about OBAMA; this should be about AMERICA.
No more thugs in office, and no more incompetents!
this is one SEIU union member that says “they” suck…I do not stand for their opposition to Hillary, nor will I campaign for BO even at the risk of losing my job for not doing so. I have to look at their leadership..powerful women that won’t be outdone by another powerful woman, huh? Anna Burger Sec/Tres of SEIU International and Prez of Change to Win. You are a disgrace to this union and the union members that disagree with you.
Ben..give it time. As I wrote….Even if Hillary had to suspend..(she won’t have to)…she will be 44
Farrakhan and Wright are POISON to centerist AMERICAN voters, even AA’s
@ben: i didnt think about it until you just posted it…. great point! you know why they didnt do it…. bc then THEY would be racist… msnbc would be called out for injecting the race card and they wouldnt just be able to blame it on the clintons!
Universal,
I agree that we need to get rid of the ‘open’ contests and the caucuses. But we need the superdelegates — they’re a correction factor that may help us survive the current mess. They are free to look at the WHOLE picture, and make a realistic judgement about whose support is legitimate, and who will make the best candidate in Nov.
Without the supers, we’re stuck with the delegate and vote totals that Obama has managed to manipulate — and probably we’d be having recount lawsuits about every hanging chad.
Levon, I think it is smart politics. Polls show most people support a double ticket, that is just a reality. I think Hillary’s team is aware of that. So, I think one of the things that happened at the LA debate is that people saw that Hillary is better to be commander-in-chief, and Obama is better for the VP slot. By allowing that idea to circulate, it is more likely that people who like Hillary but don’t want to let Obama go will vote for her. I think if Hillary actually wins the primary and she cannot possibly win without Obama then yes, she will do what is necessary to win. If Obama wins the primary, I do not think he will take her as VP, and even if he offered, I do not think she will accept. BUt I think it is to Hillary’s advantage to keep that idea out there because then people feel like they can get both, with her in the driver’s seat, which most people would agree she is more prepared for. I do think, however, that once the media really starts to scrutinize Obama (and CNN’s puff piece today does not really count as scrutiny) we may see that he does not hold up…
irs investigating obama’s church… now the irs are racist!
Fran…That was the “let’s condense what they said” editorial by yours truly about why Obama has not DONE HIS JOB
OMG! Does not need meetings? Isn’t a committee formed to make joint decisions? Since Obama has not held meetings, has he made any decisions that reflect upon the group??
DNC wants a Obama/Clinton ticket, I can just sense it.
he sounded like he was either drunk OR doing one of those jell-o pudding commericals???
Link please.
BTW, I thought he looked like he was on…something…during the debate last night.
diva, I still think it’s notable that Obama, in his comments, didn’t denounce Farakhan totally, but only denounced his “anti-semitic” remarks.
I personally don’t care now what MSNBC says about anything. They are pitiful. Thank goodness only about 50 people nationwide watch their dumb shows.
irs investigating obama’s church… now the irs are racist!
Racist AND fear mongering!
A more sinister conclusion (and one that the Right will no doubt use (hint, hint…hello out there) is that ACTUALLY having hearings on Afghanistan war and terror situation, and offering solutions to get rid of Muslim extremists my offend some in Bambis peripheral camp…
say much, do nothing
follow the money
oh berkeley i bet youre right… i saw dean interviewed yesterday and when asked abt the SDs, his answer was that he is confident “this thing” will work itself out before the convention!
funny they didnt ask him abt seating florida and michigan… hmmmm.
Live streaming of Hillary’s rally in St. Clairsville, Ohio. It’s near Pittsburgh.
Starting in about 15 min, around 6PM EST.
w*w.wtov.com
Link on front page.
BirdGal…Dodd is on same committee. And Dodd covered his ass in a 2 second soundbite
but only denounced his “anti-semitic” remarks.
If I was a “blue eyed devil” I’d be pissed right about now. No problem with LF’s anti-caucasion statements, Bambi?
@mangomist3: once again you have enlightened me! seriously though, I do appreciate your thoughtful answers to my questions. I had the same hunch but you explained it for me very well.
“Every major US Agency has been penetrated by foreign hackers”
CNN
diva,
I just watched that seiu video on u tube, they are using seiu employees not union members…I know some of them personally because I work for seiu.
Speaking of Florida, there’s a new poll out today that shows McCain beating BO by about 2 points. A big chunk of that comes from Florida. I read a SurveyUSA study that showed McCain beating Obama in Florida by about 13 points.
IDunn…as a blue-eyed devil myself, we white folk in America roll our collective eyes to such rhetoric about US. Get offended (some, more than others) at Israel attacks, and just see him as “another crazy”.
I have learned in this debate and this election we have done so to our peril.
This whole Cunningham thing is actually not bad
. BHO’s middle name is Hussein and he should not be ashamed it. It got a lot of media attention now.
@idunn: i cant find the link to the clip, but they showed it on msnbc and on fox…. i’m sure they’ll be playing and replaying this all night… if you dont get cable, i’m sure you can probably catch it on the nbc nightly news…here’s the link to the story. they even make reference to hardly being able to understand obama…
firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/27/709573.aspx
2 hour call block starts at 6:30 ish. Conference call at 6.
This will be fun. TExas or Bust!
Does anyone have any info on the American Leadership Project (ALP)? They were supposed to be gathering money to run spots in Texas and Ohio. I live in Texas but haven’t seen any of their commercials on TV as of today. Just wondering what their status was.
On the other hand, I’ve seen plenty of the pro-bambi SEIU ads.
Thanks Diva. I’ll read the article then see if I can find the link to video.
Joe Friday, can you please post the link? Thanks
spacegirl: thank you. Dodd was cya. Amazing, can’t a meeting be held without the leader? sometimes, we have meetings, when the leader is on vacation or sick. whatever.
Berkley@ 5:41 DNC wants a Obama/Clinton ticket, I can just sense it.
If so, then they are floridly delusional.
OF course meetings can be done without a leader. But that speaks to BO’s agenda of being the prez. And….we have a prez now who is already ON vacation.
We need LEADERSHIP!
HIILLARY!!!!!!!
@idunn: you have to read this!!!
look at what the TN Repub Party has to say abt bambi!!! LMAO!!!
digbysblog.blogspot.com/
p/s i looked and still cant find the video if i see it i’ll post
wbboei…see my post above about DNC and voter backlash…
ie
complaints and $$
Story about Farrakhan/BO is still coming up on CNN.
Lou Dobbs ripping MSM re: Obama
Lou Dobbs – slamming MSNBC’s debate!
| Posted by pm317
329 of 391 | warn tnr | respond
Excellent. Finally, somebody speaks truth to the deluded. But do they recognize it as truth, no, because it hurts too much, judging by the screams.
——————
I say it again, please go and comment on Wilentz’s article at TNR. Also, if CT constituents are on here, send a copy of the article to Dodd.
wbboei: “DNC wants a Obama/Clinton ticket, ”
I think that this is something that should be squashed right away from clinton supporters (I am assuming Hillary is not wanting VP)
Once something like this takes hold, it’s hard to stop.
sorry wrong person wbboei
Lou Dobbs said Russert gave Hillary a “pop quiz” on the name of that Russian leader, and that a question like that should have been directed to ‘Bama.
I’m thankful at least a FEW more people saw the same debate I did.
Heard a funny commercial on radio for a mattress store:
“We don’t only talk about change, we deliver it. Free delivery!”
@ben: where is lou? what channel… cnn? ive only got wolf…
But I have CNN on now and LOud Dobbs isn’t on? Was that a preview for his show?
Diva,
OK. Sent 10 emails to 10 senators. Now that I’ve tweaked the letter and figured out the steps, I’ll keep going tomorrow and try to do a dozen a day.
Berkeley Vox Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
————
Let us stop this right here (don’t want to repeat what you said). We’re in it to win the nomination and she will be the nominee.
pm, right on!
Yeah, Lou Dobbs was on CNN’s The Situation Room – just did a short piece with Wolf on the debate last night.
People, let us make it a point for each of us to email the “Race Man” article to every single major news network today. If they get flooded, they might decide to have the author on to talk about it.
Diva…lol! What can I tell ya, whether we’re democrats of republicans, we Tennesseans don’t play.
wbboei: “DNC wants a Obama/Clinton ticket, ”
No, No. That would be death for Clinton. she would be so shut out of the circle of power. She would be better off staying in the Senate, if she does not get the nomination. IMHO.
Caroline,
w*w.wtov9.com/video/15416182/index.html?CFID=617064&CFTOKEN=2826880
Hillary to be accompanied by Senator John Glen and Governor Ted Strickland.
They are running about 20+ min behind because of the weather.
Link also can be followed from main page:
w*w.wtov.com
“DNC wants a Obama/Clinton ticket, ”
Yeah? And people in hell want ice water too.
I’ll do it, mangomist3. That Race Man article is one of the best pieces I’ve read on what’s been happening in this campaign.
# mangomist3 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
People, let us make it a point for each of us to email the “Race Man” article to every single major news network today. If they get flooded, they might decide to have the author on to talk about it.
——————
I am encouraging everyone to comment as well — it is easy. There are lot of comments from grateful Hillary supporters — I was happy to see that.
Here is the link again:
http://www.tnr.com/talkback.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304
Wow, Rendell is gonna be on Wolf’s show – and they Farrakhan story is still coming up. LOL. Hillary really got to them with that SNL “in the tank” reference
Levon Says: wonder why McCauliffe would put that out there? are they trying to make it easier for bambi’s supporters to vote for Hillary, knowing that a vote for her wouldn’t leave bambi out of the picture? that idea makes some sense to me.
Yes, Obama as VP might satisfy a lot of his teenyboppers. Maybe she could make it conditional on no big scandals coming out for him. Even after the nomination, Eagleton was replaced when a scandal came out.
spacegirl,
OK. Translation, please.
What does this refer to.
‘LOL Obama has to JUDGEMENT to not NEED hearings HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!”
Idunn,
‘BTW, I thought he looked like he was on…something…during the debate last night.
’
Yeah, when i saw segments today it looked like he’d taken a happy pill.
Wolf said we can’t report on stories every single day??? huh??? except when its bad news for Hillary huh wolf!!!
basil9,
Wolf did a piece on Obama as co-chair of the Foreign Relations Subcommittee. It came out (debate last night) that Obama has held no oversight hearings, had basically done nothing. Chris Dodd appeared on the show and defended Obama, and stated that attacking Obama over the lack of hearings was “petty”.
Watching the local coverage of HRC in Ohio (she’s running 1/2 hour late) and I’m wondering, where is it NOT snowing?
it looked like he’d taken a happy pill.
Maybe alittle valium to calm his debate nerves?
UGH…the local Ohio channel just played a HWSNBN ad.
I need a barf bag.
Basil- I really liked your letter to superdelgates.
Democrat 1950- I liked your comments of role of superdelegates.
Just a few thoughts:
1/ While I thank Lou Dobbs for calling out MSNBC for yesterday’s debate disaster, it makes me wonder whether he has ever called out his own network, CNN, for doing the same thing during their own debates.
2/SNL is to be greatly thanked for ridiculing the medias slant towards Obama. This thing has legs and CNN isn’t a happy camper!
Sean Wilenz on F**ker about BO’s camp instigating racism and F***er is listening.
Oh I agree, and Hillary would make a far better President than Obama. We all know that. The fact that McAuliffe says that they could be on the same ticket is a way of indicating to undecideds that hey, even if you vote Hillary, you can still get Obama as the VP.
I tend to agree with McAuliffe and think a Clinton/Obama ticket would be electrifying, personally. But a VP discussion is really just a parlor game at this point… must. stay. focused. on. OH. and. Texas!
I thought Hillary ROCKED that debate last night. Articulate, graceful, intelligent, and tough.
cnn to do a segment on the “pesky campaign phone calls” coming up….
WTF IS THIS??? from wtov: Some Ohio Valley residents said they’ve been watching her all along and she’s been heavily criticized for showing up at different events with different personalities and they are anxious to see which Hillary Clinton will show up in St. Clairsville.
Excuse me I have a ton of differences depending on the circumstances. why is that being pointed out…oh never mind, shes just a woman. (don’t shoot me but isn’t that what is being implied) Can it be possible to have anyone that shows emotion in the WH. Well don’t look too far back, we had a monkey in there doing tricks for years.
Just announced on conference call we raised 35 million this month! Congrats guys!
I just talked with the Student Group leader for John McCain on campus, we had a lil’ summit
I said if the nom gets stolen from us, I will be willing to help behind the scenes, and help with the Latino vote. I told her, I know Senators Clinton and McCain are friends, and I and her supporters have been put through so much sh** by obama supporters on this Chicago-like campus, so I will “facebook” you so we can keep in contact.
JanH,
Nevertheless, maybe this will create a battle between MSNBC and CNN. MSNBC might do some stories highlighting CNN’s examples of bias. Either way, it’s some decent coverage for Hillary.
cnn to do a segment on the “pesky campaign phone calls” coming up….
Screw ‘em. They aren’t gonna make ME feel guilty.
petty?? It’s his job.
Idunn,
I think it’s the robo calls that people are objecting to – the ones received at all hours of the night, etc.
@debbie: they have never ever said a thing like that abt a man…never!!! everyone has seen bush’s dancing skills from his trip to africa last week…. no one said anything abt how ridiculous HE looked!!! its total sexism!
# basil9 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Sean Wilenz on F**ker about BO’s camp instigating racism and F***er is listening.
———-
just missed him.
YES WE WILL… good news LJ
What a laugh riot!!!!!!!! Petty???? If Dem’s are dumb enough to elect someone who says he was too busy campaigning to do his job, then they get what they deserve.
basil…on the phone…hang on
Oh Boy!
listening to cnn, Msnbc. One show talking about how the BO camp played the race card, not the Clintons.
The other, Blitzer has a story about jeremiah Wright, Farrakhan and BO.
hehehehehehe!
Can’t find Dobbs, though.
whatre you guys talking abt “petty”? i missed it.
LJ, you should post that wonderful endorsement video you made on that new site.
Dodd said it was “petty” to nitpick over Obama neve holding a meeting for that subcommittee he chairs.
Hawk, my husband is just waiting for Obama to get the nom. before he pounces on the McCain train.
Me? Ummm…I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.
@Independent Ben,
Oh I agree with you. It will be interesting to see what happens and I really hope this does even a smidgen of damage to Obama’s grin.
@mj: omg! gimme a break…
LJ, where did you hear that $35 million announcement?
MJ: Dodd said it was “petty” to nitpick over Obama neve holding a meeting for that subcommittee he chairs.
Well, I’ll be damned! Being concerned about foreign affairs is “petty.” Dodd is a jerk.
basil9,
Who on MSNBC was doing a show about the race card?
WTF? A different personality? I’ve been watching her for 15 years, and that is a bold faced lie.
TPS…conf call w/ McAuliff
re 35Mil
John Lewis Youtube video is a living, breathing testament to Obama thuggery. He said the decision was harder than the Selma march when he was beaten. He said his family is at stake. He seemed almost comatose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXXcaGNY1yc
Maybe, SNL will do another skit this weekend. It certainly had more effects, than other things have had during this campaign.
basil…dobbs on at 7 eastern
linfar: it is because of this type of behavior by the Obama camp, that I will never vote for him. Can you imagine, the White House being full of thugs? If you don’t do what I like, then I will take your family out. Shudders.
Independent,
Believe it or not, F***er was interviewing Sean Wilenz about his recent article regarding BO’s race-baiting tactics. It’s off now. I skimmed through the Wilenz article and it is a SCORCHING indictment of the BO double standards.
Wbboei,
Thanks. Tweaked it some more after posting and have sent it to 10 senators. Will go through the rest of the list in the next few days.
linfar : He seemed heartbroken over it.
I can see an SNL skit:
Russert (to Hillary): If Mongolia were to cancel it’s trade deal with Poland, and then suffer a terrorist attack, what effect would this have on the American dollar?
Hillary: (answers)
Obama: I agree with Senator Clinton!
Levon Says: I’m watching Neil Cavuto on Fox, and he’s saying the same thing I’ve been trying to point out… Hillary doesn’t need to win Ohio and Texas because the delegate count is so close at this point that as long as she stays close and keeps her advantage in big democratic states she still has a chance.
As long as she gets to the convention with delegates within maybe 400 of Obama’s, she has a very good chance. Last I knew there were about 400 Superdelegates uncommitted, who can vote for whoever they think is the best nominee — after looking at where Obama’s delegates actually come from: packing caucuses in little red states and “Dem for a Day.”
And that’s just on the first ballot. After that I think all of them are free to vote as they wish.
I’m not sure what people mean by ’staying in.’ Even if she just coasted along without a lot of campaign appearances or money spent, she’d still get lots of votes/delegates in the good states. She doesn’t have to ’stay in’ — she IS in. She’s on the ballot for the convention, and that’s all that matters.
Not that any of this matters, as I’m sure she’ll keep fighting big time and win bigtime, now that we’re back in the real world of big blue states.
What’s the plan if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination? I cannot vote for Obama. I will either not vote, or vote for McCain. What’s Obama gonna do when all those Dem/Repugs vote Repug and all Hillary’s votes go for McCain. Sure will wake him up. He is so arrogant that I can’t even look at him.
basil9,
Yeah, I read that article. It’s stunning. Did Tucker agree with him? Too bad there’s only about 50 people that watch Tucker.
The local reporter is getting that “different personalities” crap from Russert and Brian Williams. That was their line before the debate last night, asking which Hillary will show up.
birdgal, dedfg– he was heartbroken. I hate those race baiting bastards who did this to him. Hillary, of course , will be the first to sympathize. She knows what they have been doing. It has been like torture. And yes. John Lewis is now an example of what the Obama campaign will do to get its way. I feel so angry. The guy was beaten at Selma, for pity’s sake, and they have challenged his commitment to AA’s. Someobody ought to take Jesse Jackson Jr. out behind the woodshed.
Irish,
I’ll vote for Nader before I vote for Obama or McCain. But I don’t think it’s going to come to that
A reporter said that???????????? Talk about media blatant bias.
Well, F***er actually LISTENED to Wilenz’s perspective and kept saying, “That’s very interesting,” like he meant it.
BTW – F***er says he was listening to the debate last night and his impression was that she’d swept it and had sewn up the nomination but when he talked to his colleagues no one agreed.
For me it is anybody but Obama. Because he played the race card.
I feel like there is a nuclear weapon pointed at us and if the country doesn’t vote for Barack Obama, it will go off. Jeez!
Independent Ben, that is very funny. He has copied her answers from day one in the debates. Obama is Hillary’s positions now. He just steals ‘em. Then his repug advisors tweak ‘em so his republican backers won’t get too upset.
((((John Lewis)))
Fuckers.
no “ifs” we’re fighting for Hillary here!!!!
Do not panic Hillary supporters.Pay no attention to the polls they are the MSM’s way of influencing the outcome of the election.Do you really believe that the media really pays for a service that they can manipulate at no cost.Have you ever seen an actual poll take place.Have you or someone you know has ever been polled?It is mind control and the power of suggestion being used to hi-jack an election.We are all watching a battle of the media to improve ratings and take credit for success.BIG BIG money at play by the Networks,Wall Street,Banking,Contracting and the GOP.MSNBC,CNN,FOX,NEWS PAPERS,and all the HUMAN MAGGOTS that paid millions,to derail Hillary,nominate BHO and then destroy hin short order.Gigantic effort,big money and no scruples. You can take this scenario to the Bank.America do not let it happen.Been watching this method of operation for most of my 90 yrs.This one makes Hitler look like a mad Houspainter that he really was.Millions of helpless people died,countries were devasted,families forever separated.All of the present political and cult movement plan has brought Religion into the picture as a rational,for its existance.Heads up,Eyes open.Listen and watch.
If the worst case scenario should happen, I’m almost 90% positive my answer will be to write in HRC.
I don’t think my conscience would allow me to do anything else.
Hubby, on the other hand , will help McCain win.
Lou Dobbs about to do a piece on Obama not holding any meetings for the sub-committee that he is the Chair of.
ABM90, none of us are panicking. We are diehard Hillary supporters. We believe in her, we support her all the way, and we are going to do our best to ensure that she is our next president.
In fact, after typing that, I’m now 100% sure that I will vote for HRC in the GE no matters what happens.
That makes my soul feel at ease, so it MUST be the right answer.
ABM90,
WOW! You really said it! And you’ve seen this before! I’ve read a lot about the Rise and Fall of the third Reich and for months that is exactly what BO’s campaign has seemed like to me.
Great post.
(((John Lews)))
I felt so sad, after seeing that clip. I felt worse, for feeling so negative about him, earlier today. That guy is a Hero for standing up as long as he has.
birdgal, I have met John Lewis. He is a very nice gentleman. A very decent soul. Imagine the pressure Obama and his thugs brought on him.
Irish1139: I find also that it seems to have gotten really weird…
To say that the Obama camp should be ashamed is an understatement.
A new kind of politics? You bet your ass it’s new. But it sure ain’t improved.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/27/about-the-nation-of-islam-and-obama/
DID EVERYONE READ THIS ARTICLE?
when the media gets involved the way it has and to be so intentionally biased…I have to say has greatly surprised me
“A new kind of politics? You bet your ass it’s new. But it sure ain’t improved. ”
You said it, I guess this is the new politics.
Link to the Ohio HRC rally:
http://www.wtov9.com/video/15416182/index.html?CFID=617064&CFTOKEN=2826880
Put CNN on Dobbs about to slam Bambi
WATCH HARDBALL RIGHT NOW…. watch when the show the video of bambi and mccain fighing abt iraq today…. i swear bambi is on SOMETHING!!!! either that or he’s trying to imitate bill cosby! hurry its coming up!
RJK, give me an update on what Dobbs says, RJK. I’m watching the local coverage of the Ohio rally.
anyone else feel, the media is about to do its destroy part of of its “build and destroy” play its been doing the last few months.
They have had fun building Obama up but i think tey realised they can’t control the guy and now its time to take him out.
I think Hillary will have to just do a sit back and watch what happens soon. The media smells blood on Obama, they will soon be in for the kill like sharks.
moononpluto,
I saw a story the other day about the press – and that Obama is now really controlling their access to him. If you don’t give the press access, they will turn on you – every time
Diva, try to find me that clip. I don’t get MSNBC.
Lou Dobbs is doing a pretty good hit piece on Obama’s – and the lack of oversight hearings.
TPS: Thank you. He must of been, under incredible pressure.
Sounds like Chicago-like thuggery. “old” politics are the “new” politics. What a farce, and people are believing this. Incredible.
diva
Dobbs slamming Bambi for not holding meetings of oversight committee on Afghanistan
What kind of response is it “I have been too busy campaigning for President to hold meetings”?
He looks peeved.
way to go DOBBS!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!! Dobbs was really tough on bambi. That’s as scathing an indictment that I’ve seen on him from MSM.
Yeah, Obama does nothing while Afghanistan goes to hell. These hearings are the only way to hold Bush’s feet to the fire – and Obama has failed!
The obvious response. How could CNN let Dodd get away with saying calling out Obama on not doing his job is “petty”?
birdgal, I think people are waking up. There is a quotation from Lincoln:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
I don’t think Obama can fool all of the people all of the time! People are beginning to wake-up from the hoodwinking and bamboozling.
Hillary taking the stage…
If its any indication of what the last 2 days turnaround is, then when Rezko kicks off, they are going to slaughter Obama.
I’ve said this all along, Clinton will get a rough ride until Obama’s dirt starts cracking then the MSM will kick off. Obama’s about to feel the heat of the attack wing of the media, its not going to be pretty, lets see if he can take what HRC’s had to take for 3 months.
element of cuteness in Obama campaign LOL
John Glenn, Ted Strickland and Hillary taking the stage.
moononpluto, how about six months? Hillary has been taking this since last October at the least.
lou dobbs was critical of it
Lou Dobbs is getting in some digs tonight about Obama
Hahahahaha!
Watching Dobbs now. Yup, he’s tearing BO a new one.
About BO, he says to Crowley, “What kind of sense does that make. (about the Afghanistan Committee which BO chaired but never convened and the McCain-BO barbs today)) To me this is so nonsensical you’d hope the national press corp would ask him some follow up questions and round things out with some facts. Is the obama campaign being too ‘cute?” . . . .
Go Lou!
“The bumper sticker said Clinton: either one.”
LMAO!
On Matthews’ show, all they talk about is Hillary’s remark about getting the first question, of course . . .
What bumper sticker? That’s cute.
Jesus, they’ve been parodied. Then seem to reinact the parody last night. And the still don’t get it. Idiots.
Someone official from Ohio said he saw that bumper sticker on the back of a car.
heh heh heh…pretty funny.
John Glenn was excellent. Right to the point.
Incredibly, on Hardball, Norah O’Donnell slams Hillary, talking about her using different personalities and trying to get sympathy. Howard Fineman, on the other hand, says: “I think she’s got a gripe.” Matthews then chuckles and says, “Ah, the sensitive man…” What a Pig Matthews is. I can see that – and I’m a red-blooded American man.
And Hillary seems to be having alot of fun tonight.
did you all see the piece where the two families members went after each other and one got stabbed?
Its awful but I really feel like I could hurt somebody. This election has been the biggest farce on America. It’s to the point of being entirely irrelevant. Honest that is how I feel.
If Hillary is not the nominee…there has been so much bullshit laid down, so much ho pium spewed and promised…we will lose a whole generation of Democrat voters because the country CAN NOT run like Obama tells these idiots that it can. Kennedy, Dodd and others KNOW this but they don’t want to see a woman, who is telling the American people straight up what it’s going to take) to be in the White House.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more the white elite Washington bunch set this up..how better to stifle the first woman president as present the first black man with all the “establishment” behind him. Think about it.
Kennedy, Dodd, Kerry care jack shit about the American people. Obama cares jack shit about the American People. Hillary Clinton has been fighting and getting THINGS done all of her life.
America will suffer from this. The wake up from the “dream” will be harsh reality. Let us just keep working hard for Hillary so that dumb ass Obamabots won’t have to face it. If it weren’t that it’s Hillary taking the fcuking beating from this biased, sexist ole boyz club .. I’d personally sit back in the wings and say fcuk them all and just wait for the big ole crash to come.
She’s been outspent and he has paid ground forces out and hitting up Texas big time. Does she have no organizations that are willing to hit back at him. Are they all scared shitless of being called racist or what? The republicans are as we speak building a file to whip his ass with…Hillary is the only Democrat who can beat McCain. The republicans are hoping for an Obama nomination, McCain is not afraid of Obama.
Awesome…she just told folks to sit down because she’s going to do an impromtu town hall.
YOU GO GIRL!!!
Nora O’Donell? What a tool.
Yeah, right, Fineman’s a sensitive man. This “personality” effing crap must be sexist Obama’s new talking point. Axelrod’s is passing out xeroxed copies to the news media. Jesus, we’ve known her for 15 years. Ain’t no Hillary, but hillary.
That Nora is a c*** (rhymes with hunt). And she’s a real wimp. just challenge her, like with Stephanie tub ….. and she wilts like a limp you-know-what.
@oh ben…. nora odonell is an absolute disgrace!!! she makes andrea mitchell look fair and balanced! i cant believe how she goes after women… she’s pregnant…. wonder if she’s gonna feel some of that backlash??? i just hope for that child’s sake that its a boy and not a girl!
Matthews is examining Hillary’s statement that she would like to have her vote back – on the war in Iraq. Matthews thinks this is something new . . . sheesh. Hillary has said that for years.
Geez…I’m glad I’m watching Hillary and not the negative crap ya’ll are watching.
My problem with Obama and the Iraq question is that he thinks it’s a joke. McCain calls him on taking the troops out and then bringing them back if there is another terrorist surge and Obama just grins and goes for a sound bite that makes no sense. There are Americans fighting for their lives in Iraq and he doesn’t have a clue what to do…grrr…
Well, an ex-military guy on Hardball is supporting Hillary. Hell, go to Hillary.com and there’s a list of 27 Generals and Flag Officers who support Hillary. I’m an ex-military man, and I sure do. I wish the MSM would publicize that – like they do EVERY endorsement that ‘Bama gets.
Guys, I am sure this is JUST a rumor, BUT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/27/153044/184/615/465173
Patrick Murphy of PA on Tweetie’s show and going to bat for HRC!
Great surrogate for her.
I actually thought it was quite effective because she was so clear. Also, it showed she’s had to make tough decisions and holds herself accountable. Obama talked about something that was unanimous and while it lead to something intrusive was not nearly as tough a decision. Also, he called himself a professor. Boring.
h t t p://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/27/153044/184/615/465173
I am sure this is not true, but just wanted people to know this rumor is starting…it doesn’t make any sense given the strong fundraising numbers this month, a strong volunteer effort continuing, etc.
dot….
“If Hillary is not the nominee…”
thats a no no!!!
I can’ get the link, but there is a rumor on a daily kos diary that she is dropping out Friday based on something a Boston radio host said based on a conversation with a DC media person. I don’t believe it, it doesn’t make any sense, but I just wanted people to know the rumor is out there.
Sorry! Meant to say Congressman Joe Sestak. Murphy is an Obamanite.
Ha! She’s talking about Bambi’s Harry and Louise flyers! LOL!
HUGE applause!
Lou Dobbs had these remarks regarding bambi not holding ANY oversight hearings:
“The reality is this man, for 13 months, has had a responsibility to hold oversight hearings on Afghanistan, the conduct of that war, and has not done so. And for the national media to watch as he waves a wand and says ‘Well it’s been inconvenient’, because he took the chairmanship at the outset of his campaign, what kind of response is that? And Christopher Dodd suggesting that there is some sort of analog between being responsible for holding those hearings and attending the meetings? Please Senator Dodd don’t be so disingenuous. The American people aren’t complete fools. What is going on here?”
mangomist3: isn’t daily kos a pro obama site?
oh please. that’s crap. She’s not dropping out.
mangomist3,
No way that can be true. Someone on here earlier said that Hillary has opened an office in Wyoming. Doesn’t sound like she’s dropping out to me.
Watching her fire up the crowd in Ohio right now. Sure doesn’t look like a candidate about to drop out to me.
I know, I don’t believe it for a second, but rumors on the web spread like wild fire so I thought it better to let everyone know it is going around. I have tried to paste the link, but it keeps getting caught in the filter. I also emailed tips to let them know the rumor is starting.
DOt,
“Actually, the more I think about it, the more the white elite Washington bunch set this up..how better to stifle the first woman president as present the first black man with all the “establishment” behind him.’
Yup. I agree. Race trumps gender every time.
John Lewis may have been a hero at one time but his spine must have been hit with crippling osteoporosis. You don’t wrestle with a decision like this for weeks. He knew Obama was running when he endorsed Hillary. I believe in loyalty to a fault. John Lewis is a smart man, he surely knows that Bill or Hillary Clinton are racist and that race has been injected in this campaign by none other than the man of color himself.
Believe me…our enemies would welcome another inexperienced wack job in the whitehouse. We’re about finished off right now in the eyes of the rest of the world, we need a strong leader who will build our support back.
The inactivity by Bambi on this committee proves that he does not know what he is doing. Doddo coming to his aid just shows that American voters sensed he was full of crapola and that is why he never made if off the ground in Iowa. I get the sense Dodd wants to be useful now…
Dodd also just came back from overseas with none other than JOE BIDEN. Keep you ears peeled.
@jan: i am sooo with you! he wants to stump abt how he made a speech… like it was so hard! and now that we know what a theif he is… it probably wasnt even his f’ing speech!!! so can someone tell me where this tool gets off challenging ANYONE on iraq???
at least with clinton and mccain, you can tell that they respect each other and there is a reverence abt serving their country… with obama… i dont know… there is just so much…i cant put my finger on… all he has to do is make speeches and surround himself with the right people and serve less than a year in the senate and HE gets to go down in history as our first AA president??? it just doesnt seem right. he doesnt deserve it. if i were an AA that had worked hard and had been in office and showed up and voted and took a stand on things, i would be OUTRAGED!
mangomist3: isn’t daily kos a pro-obama site?
The day Joe Biden endorses HWSNBN is the day I turn my back on the DNC forever.
I’m sure Obama people are getting anxious right now – and will try to create pressure for Hillary to drop out. I can see a definite turn in some of the media coverage. It’s like a slow leak has started in the Obama balloon. NOW, if only Rezko would kick in, we’d have something going!
That’s bullshit! And IF it was true why would she drop out on Friday before Ohio and Texas?
Dot: I am on the same wavelength with you today….things you have posted here I have been thinking about also.
Mangomist,
O….. Don’t say that or, paste the link.
It may not be getting through if you don’t delete the http// www part.
Yeah, we do wanna know what’s out there but that’s a pretty serious allegation so if you can post the link please do.
Hotdog!!!!!!! Farrakhan story coming up on Dobbs.
Mangomist,
Don’t say that! Or, at least post the link. You have to delete the h t t p part to get it through the filter.
Idunn,
What a great crowd, eh ?
She’s surfing on their energy.
John Kerry is another mealy-mouthed surrogate for Obama. Earlier today on Morning Joke, Scarborough interviewed and asked him: “Do you think Obama would have known that question about the Russian leader.” Kerry replies: “Oh yes, I’m sure he would have . . . he’s on the foreign relations committee . . . ” blah blah. The man is SO transparent.
I would like to throw out a dare to our “media friends.” How about you switch camps for 7 full days and be pro-Hillary and anti-Obama?
Just think of all the investigating you could get done during that time…sigh…
Dot,
Weren’t Biden, Dobbs and 2 other politicians in a helicopter emergency in Afghansitan last week?
Gotta go! Dobbs report about BO trying to distance himself from an endorsement by Farrakhan. goody goody gum drops.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/27/153044/184/615/465173
BILL AND HILLARY ARE NOT RACIST
I’m going to bed folks. My nerves are shot and I’m getting the flu.
mangomist3: isn’t daily kos a pro-obama site?
Yeah Joe, Ohio loves our girl! And she is talking to them like they are sitting around her kitchen table having coffee.
Here we go…taking questions from the crowd!
Yes, dedfg, but you gotta know what rumors are starting to stop them.
Actually Lou Dobbs stated Hillary was heading to West Virginia? to do a walk with the poor (something like that)
Why the hell doesn’t this news anchor shut up and get back to the rally?
those rumors have been for the last week, when the Obama camp became increasingly desperate, because they know they can’t beat Hillary
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23369851#23369851
dedfg, i heard that too. i thought it odd, but then i wondered if it could b a john edwards link? TOTAL speculation…
she is doing a poverty tour, which a few other presidents have done in the past. it was a poverty tour that first led to the creation of the food stamp program.
there is nothing new as daily kos (a pro-obama website)
they have said much worse about Hillary for months….so actually this is nothing new
Wow, Lou Dobbs is doing a piece on Jeremiah Wright. It’s spooky. They showed a clip of Wright preaching a sermon and guess what he was saying. None other than: “Yes We Can!”
@dot: amen abt lewis!!!
after everything this man went through for civil rights, why would he want someone like obama to be the fist black president??? why??? this guy was crooked BEFORE he got to washington. the way that he even got his seat was crooked!!! he screwed over a well respected AA to get his seat! he belongs to a divisive church! he knew rezco was letting the poor, many minoroties freeze in his slums. four of those buildings were in barry’s district!
how can any aa that has fought for equality want this guy to make history as the first aa president, to be the beneficiary of all of their hard work and sacrifice??? he acts like he’s entitled to this!
Roland Martin is an Obamtron hack, making excuse after excuse for Bambi concerning wright and Farakhan.
As a person of color, I am pressured constantly by some family members to vote for Obama out of duty. I KNOW what that pressure feels like on a small scale. I can not imagine what it must feel like on the grand scale John Lewis must be experiencing.
It’s very easy to condemn someone when you don’t have to walk in their shoes.
(And that’s all I have to say about that.)
vote on lou dobbs about preferential treatment now
@dot 48: all of what you said. I have been saying and thinking the same things for weeks.
Do you believe that the press is giving preferential treatment to Senator Obama over Senator Clinton?
vote now at http://www.loudobbs.com
VOTE at LOUDOBBS.COM now. regarding whether or not the media is favoring bambi.
Idunn,
Maybe John Lewis has been getting death threats, like Tavis Smiley got after critisizing HWSNBN aka ^=^..
@rjk: whats new??? anytime race is injected into this campaign, cnn pulls roland out. i swear, they could catch bambi in the act of killing puppies and roland would have an excuse for him!
I don’t know, Basil. I do know that I have family members who are no longer speaking to me. It’s a diffcult situation to be in, and it does hurt. I fell for John Lewis.
LOL…feel. Not “fell”. Although, he was probably a real cutie back in the day.
okay… lets put lou on our email list… to send stuff to… he might cover some stuff.
omg! roger simon is a tool! she doesnt want to appear victimized!!! she is just sick of that a**hole getting time to think up his answer and copying her answers!!! are these commentators really that stupid OR do they think we are???
mangomist,
Thanks. Now I understand. Someone told someone who told someone who told the poster who even says it’s rumor, hearsay and unsubstantiated although the original source is, according to this poster, very accurate.
I don’t beleive it.
Dobbs still slamming Bambi over no oversight hearings
I think we’ll rock Ohio. I’m a little worried about Texas, though. Just pray our latino brothers and sisters there put us over the top.
You know, as I’ve watched this campaign, and seen pundits, politicians, etc. go over to the Obama camp – you know what it reminds me of?
Invasion of The Body Snatchers!
I feel for Lewis too. Given what happened to Tavis for merely chiding Obama for being a no-show at the State of the Black Union event I wouldn’t be surprised if threats were a factor. ObamaCult is filled with thugs.
Damn…the Lou Dobbs poll asking if the media favors Obama over Clinton stands at 63% yes to 32% no .
Wow…wonder if even HWSNBN supporters agree that he’s getting a free ride.
Ben,
I meantioned that a few weeks ago saying it looks like a few pods have not taken. Refering to Hillary supporters.
Idunn: ((hugs))
if thats the case, then lewis should have gone public with the threats. tavis did!
Lou Dobbs was never an Obama KoolAid drinker.
don’t worry the comedown for these Obama junkies will be worse than being on crystal meth.
As far as Texas, what really worries me is republicans who go to the polls and just request that Democratic ballot. But I heard Rush Limbaugh has a campaign going for Republicans to grab that ballot and vote for Hillary. Maybe that will have some affect.
Idunn: that’s quite a tough situation
The thing about Travis Smiley that gets to me, is that for ages AA’s have held him up as a shining example, and applauded the work he’s done on behalf of the community.
Now that he doesn’t support Obama, many label him an “uncle tom”.
WTF???
Just remember everyone, if Obama is speaking in your town DO NOT fall asleep!
Idunn: that’s quite a tough situation
It just is what it is, you know? I’ve made my choice and shit like that isn’t going to distract me. Says more about them than it does about me, right?
@ben…yeah, rush has it on his site… “pimp yourself: vote hillary!”
i posted it this morning… heres the link.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022608/content/01125110.guest.html
if thats the case, then lewis should have gone public with the threats. tavis did!
Yes well, Tavis Smiley can’t be voted out of a job by angry AA’s either.
Idunn: you are absolutely right
people have no right to pressure you (even when it is loving family
)
I think it shows your integrity
@diva LOL, go Rush! (never thought I would say that)
Campbell Brown’s new show is on. Is she in the tank for ‘Bama?
Smiley was fantastic at the SOTBU. he made sure HRC was welcomed
appropriately and even had the audience applaud twice becuase his first announcement of her appearnace she wasn’t yet in the building so he had to repat his welcome.
YUP! Dobbs poll is official. 67% think BO gets preferential press treatment.
Never thought I’d say “Go Rush”….LOL
Idunn, hillary’s african american supporters are some of the strongest people in this country. The pressure is unreal. There are some good videos at that new site from african american supporters and a lot of them speak to that.
I love tavis smiley. always have. i think the covanent is good for all americans.
the ONLY place Hillary is leaving is her home in New York…
She’s moving into the White House!!!!
up to 76% now. Once the moonies see it they will vote the other way over night.
So basically the republicans have admitted, they are not voting for Obama, just a wipe Hillary vote, gee thats comforting, so every state so far, the repugs have infiltrated the vote, inflating Obama and then stick it to him in the GE. The Dem party are assholes if they get taken in by this.
mj: I watched the Lewis interview about his half-hearted endorsement of Obamamessiah. He looked like he was going to cry for his regret of it.
when will hill be in texas?
Independent Ben Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Campbell Brown’s new show is on. Is she in the tank for ‘Bama?
She is in the tank.
@idunn: i dont get it either… i hate to come off sounding like a hardass, but lewis has been through worse than being strongarmed abt his SD vote. and like others have said… he should have never come out and endorsed in the first place.
i love tavis… he does so many good things! i wish his show was on earlier here… i can barely make it through charlie rose and tavis is on after him! this is just another example of barack being all rhetoric! he calls himself a “uniter” yet he’s dividing his party. he’s a “uniter” yet he’s causing discontent amongst AAs in this country on all levels, powerful and public AAs all the way down to families like yours…. its crazy!
If we can some of these people on record saying they are being threateneed to vote for Obama it will kill his campaign over night.
Hopefully now that BO is getting some initial vetting, the gloss over his campaign will hit a reality check and March 4 will be for Hillary.
DC, that’s so sad. I blame Obama for letting his co-chair strong arm people and for not speaking out and telling his voters everyone gets to support whomever they want. Why isn’t the msm talking about this? It speaks to a lack of character on Obama’s part.
Jeebus, when will the Democratic party get a friggin’ clue and make ALL primaries closed to BOTH independents and republicans??
moon, tavis already said that. and, several at the sotbu said they had to change their numbers mulitple times. the msm is turning a blind eye.
yeah i have never understood open primaries. They are just stupid.
If this was closed primaries, Hillary would have won months ago
People, I must state it like I see it: in my opinion, this is yet ANOTHER example of an elected official going back on his word, failing to support the people, failing to remain courageous. Why does Lewis seem to be getting such a nice pass for abandoning Clinton? Hint-hint: people have repeatedly complained about Obama getting one because he’s black; I think this is the same damn thing with Lewis.
How many people in the Dem party–of ALL colors and sexes–have behaved deplorably? First over abetting Bush and now over abetting Obama? No free passes, I don’t care if some people are implying they’ve been threatened (or people are seeing some implied threat–see below). All the more reason to stop this person BEFORE he would have presidential powers. Can you imagine the level of thuggery then?
I’ve never seen Lewis before. But in the video, he doesn’t seem like he’s being coerced at all. He referred to doing this Clinton-abandoning for his friends and family, implying Obama’s his friend? Obama’s supporters are? …Or does he mean these people are just black so he must do this for them?
I’m sorry, but no more icon-worship. Humans are humans, and it seems that, today, a lot of them have practically NO courage to stand up to the collapse that is imminent in America, to the corruption. Elected official after elected official has ultimately behaved both cravenly and deplorably. Enough!
At this point, I don’t really feel for anybody but the AMERICAN PEOPLE who are being screwed over and WILL be screwed over.
The black people who continue to resist Obama—THEY are the truly courageous ones. Save your sympathy for THEM.
LOL…well, as my mama says, “That’s the crazy side of the family right there!”
Her response to one of my cousins calling her a disgrace? “Well Ettie, I hope the lord continues to bless your crazy ass.”
LMAO!
Wow….watching emmanueal cleaver on CNN now. Cleaver describing lewis as having been “bludgeoned” and “pressured” to change. powerful stuff.
moon, if the rules had not been changed from winner take all in ‘84, hill would have won on TT.
Rep. Cleaver, on Brown’s show: He understands Lewis was under pressure, and he states there are others who have been under pressure. I wish somebody would give more DETAILS about this pressure.
moonopluto, superdelegates have come out and said they were being pressured, such as cleaver, lewis’ robo calls, etc, have been made public but it has not yet ended his campaign. why? the media have not made hay of it. the media decides what is acceptable and what is not. it is not okay to fumble a question about drivers licenses for undocumented immigrants, but it is allright to threaten superdelegates, to bend at the will of exelon, to accuse decent people of being racists, to say you are proud of your country for the first time, and the list goes on…
@mj: tavis is the only person ive heard that has spoken out… elected officials probably wont since theyre being threatened with their seats…
@idunn: i agree that they cant threaten tavis with his elected seat, but tavis’ livelihood is rooted in the aa commuinity and if they turn against him, then he’s worse off than any elected official. i applaud him for standing up for himself and his family.
Ah, no, fran. first, his constiuents went heavily obama. second, this man is a national treasure. third, walk a mile in his shoes, he was being threatened from the sounds of it.
Fran: you do have a good point.
ok, now I’m torn…..
mangomist3, exactly. And, the media has let these folks down.
Cleaver says….something going on here that is fundamentally wrong. No one has questioned kerry and kennedy as to why they haven’t switched. there are many white candidates in states that went for clinton that haven’t been asked why they haven’t switched.
All the questions about going w/ districts seem to coming to AA.
Cambell brown – is it about race?
Cleaver….it’s a fact – AA are experiencing pressue. MA went heavily for Clinton. No questions raised about Kerry and Kennedy and their support. Why?
Cleaver…..In this race….somethings going on under the microscope that will concern people who are fair.
Need THIS on youtube. THIS IS POWERFUL
“he was being threatened from the sounds of it.”
–So why didn’t he call the secret service or someone, hmmmm?
I’m sorry but there should be no special treatment for people caving in to the madness.
dedfg, you don’t have to be torn unless you want to be torn. It just is what it is.
The repugs are going nuts over Obama’s schiavo “mistake” comments. He may have cost himself a lot of those repug and independent votes.
Also, then if his constituents went heavily Obama, all of Clinton’s superdelegates, where their constituents went heavily for HER, they need to switch to Clinton. Tit for tat.
Ann, I agree, it was powerful, but then the Obama supporter was all like no, no, nothings going on, this is a great election.
So why didn’t he call the secret service or someone, hmmmm?
And say what exactly? AA’s will boot my ass out of office if I don’t back Obama?
Pretty sure there’s not a damned thing the secret service can do about THAT.
well, on the one hand I want to feel for him, but on the other hand this is someone we want to stand up for himself and not be pressured.
Well, Lewis can always switch BACK. I have faith that he eventually will.
you know the thing is, is that Obama could easily run in 8 years time…and really it would be better because he would be older.
@ann: kerrey was on morning joe and there was no questions asked abt his SD vote!
i honestly hope kerrey and kennedy dont switch… then no one can say sh*t abt hillary taking this to the convention and winning there!
did we ever find out if the SD votes at the convention are public or private??? couldnt someone say i’m voting for obama and then cast their vote for hillary at the convention?
This is a mans livlihood we’re talking about here…a lifetime career. Easy to say YOU would stand your ground when you don’t actually have to be the one to put your whole life on the line.
what’s the huge push right now?
turned over to American Idol and this chick is singing:
“You’re so vain”
LOL. Made my day with this Obamashit churning all day!
Fran, after seeing that youtube video, I am sorry, I have to give Lewis the benefit of the doubt. I have had really uncomfortable conversations with close friends about the election and I have basically resigned myself to keeping my opinion to myself becuase I don’t want to lose friends forever. I speak my mind, but I don’t press the issue too far. When a friend said the other day that the Clintons were racist, I said I don’t believe that, I believe Obama exploited race, and she said I don’t think so, and I said we agree to disagree. It is tough, a lot of Obama supporters are REALLY aggressive, and as much as I may not like it, I can understand the pressure Lewis is under…
Let us not be like many of the crazy Obama supporters. Let us follow Hillary’s example and give Lewis the benefit of the doubt. We can be bigger people than his crazed supporters that pressured Congressman Lewis.
just for starters write to head on, legal zoom , vector west, these are advertisers on Cambell Brown cnn let the know you do not support biased reporting
Tell all the media you wont patronize their advertisers if they don’t start having impartial media coverage
So what should people being “threatened” do–wait till Obama’s (hopefully not) graced with presidential powers, like all the illegal ones Bush created, and then call the secret service?
Now is the time to act to prevent further thuggery.
This isn’t even about race. This is about, as I’ve said, elected official after elected official over the past eight years caving into nonstop corruption. These people are ultimately not acceptable–they’re too mediocre. Americans don’t (or at least shouldn’t) elect officials only for when times are easy. When times are tough is when elected officials are supposed to really work–and shine. If they don’t, they weren’t good enough, in my opinion. And it seems that there’s barely been a good enough federal one all these years.
Just wait a few weeks when Rezko is in the news every night. Obama supporters will be jumping off that sinking ship like the rats they are.
Nov 29, 2007 … During Dem debate coverage, will CNN’s Campbell Brown disclose her husband’s role in Romney’s campaign?
She’s not for BO she’s just anti Hillary
the thing with Lewis…cnn and media is OVERPLAYING it…like SD’s are peeling off from her left and right. Cambelltit Brown is another bytch who’s so over the heel for bambi. She kept cutting off the guy who can’t understand why there is no pressure on the Kerry and Kennnedy.
hone mission of mine tomorrow and I hope everybody here will join:
Call Kennedy and Kerry .. put pressure on them to vote the way their voters did….switch to Hillary.
Hey guys, I just called Texas for over an hour. Of the actual live bodies I got on the phone, 11 were for Hillary, 3 were undecided, and 1 was for Omega.
I also donated an additional $100.44 because we HAVE to close this $1.9 million gap.
Donate, call, donate, call!! Let’s do this for Hillary.
Fran, show so heart. back off a bit on this. it’s not as easy as you make it sound. if the media were doing it’s job all this time lewis probably would not be in this situation.
rjk, you said it. In fact, HWSNBN is just now getting a taste of the media turning and his minions are about to have siezures over it.
Just wait til the Rezko hits the fan. This is gonna be effing fun!
I’ve had the Obama girl song stuck in my head all freakin’ day. It’s to the point where I want to inflict pain upon myself to stop it. I swear if I wind up with an injury because of this song I’m going to sue. DAMN YOU OBAMA.
@rjk: oooooh how i hope you are right!!! i am really hoping that the media continues on this path… they still have the blinders on, but at least their unfairness has become a topic!!! maybe by the time rezco starts, they’ll actually cover it!!!
On CNN – they miss the damn point of what Hillary said and it’s so DAMN FRUSTRATING! It’s not that she doesn’t want to answer the questions – it’s simply that it’s unfair to let Obama sit there and say “Me too” and then wander off on other junk he wants to say.
I wish someone would do a montage from these debates, of every time Obama has been able to say, “I agree” when a major policy question is asked – usually to Hillary first!
Of course Dicko Morris tells OReilly that he has “one million” ways for Hillary to right the ship and Oreilly told him “spit one out or don’t come back to this show LOL”
anyways he said something about Generic Prescriptions…
I just turned on CNN and Campbell Brown made a HUGE production out of pointing out that her panelists hadn’t endorsed, or contributed, etc to a campaign. HAHAHAHAHA.
mj, I’m worried more about showing some SENSE and BRAINS. Lots of people using their hearts over their heads is how we got into this mess….
I’ve had the Obama girl song stuck in my head all freakin’ day
Could be worse…you could be like me and have that stupid Stevie Wonder scale thing replaying over and over.
Ooooooo BAHMMMMM AHHHHHHH…..OHHHHH Bahmmm aaaaaaa.
HillGuy : that’s good news
I beleive John Lewis loses crdibility by switching to BO. It screams this is all about race. Cleaver is a man who can not and will not be pressured into changing his vote,
@tiny (b*tchslap!) THERE! is it gone???
tiny dancer: go to youtube and find the hillary song
Good for OReilly.
I wish somebody would find a video of “Yes We Can” from the preacher and put it on YouTube and then send it to media…be sure Rush Limbaugh knows it..
His rally cry is even STOLEN! Seems there is nothing sacred to this man. I bet he stole the friggin offering plate on his way out too.
ben, campbell is just mad that SNL made fun of her, and then Hillary did it too.
Wait, Morris mentioned generics?
Hey everyone! Hope you all are doing well!
We are close with the campaign fundaising of 1.9 million, we are now are:
882,324!
Let’s do it people!
How’s Texas looking for Hillary?
divabunny: lol
I have a story I am sending to a feminist site, please read if you have time (it’s long):
Women and the US Political System Today
By Cody A. Eliff
The state of women in America. It is a very complicated issue. Today, we have made much progress from decades ago. We now have 16 female US Senators. There are female governors in Kansas, Arizona, Michigan, Washington, Hawaii, and Alaska. There are many female Representatives in the House. We have certainly come a long way from the early and mid 20th Century, and even the late 20th century to an extent. Jeannette Rankin, Bella Abzug, Margaret Chase Smith, and Hattie Caraway would be in good company now. We have women candidates for every position of government these days, even the presidency. We, in the 2008 election cycle, have seen history made. A woman, for the first time in US history has won a presidential primary contest. As a matter of fact, she has won many, including huge states like California, New York, Michigan, Florida, Tennessee, and Arizona.
This campaign has seen the media and many Americans begin to look at the issue of gender. Gender in America is a topic not talked about often enough. Women comprise a majority of the United States’ population, yet are still held back in many respects. In some ways, they are doing this to themselves. In others, there is an old guard of male domination still present in our society to a large extent in a variety of arenas. Whether it be sports, career opportunities, religion, and of course, as I am discussing, politics.
I want to take this opportunity to talk about this election and how it has played out. We have Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton running for the Democratic nomination against rival Senator Barack Obama. Both are popular figures in their party. One is well versed in policy, statistics, government affairs, and foreign affairs. The other is charismatic and fresh, and seen as someone from “outside of Washington.” One is a former First Lady. One is a former state senator.
When Clinton announced she was “in it to win it”, she made history. She became the first First Lady to run for president. She has already broken a similar glass-ceiling in becoming the first First Lady to be elected to office, also becoming the first female senator from the state of New York. Hillary Rodham Clinton has already been honored by the National Women’s Hall of Fame, but I think we should look at how amazing this woman truly is.
Hillary came from a middle-class home in Park Ridge, Illinois, where she grew up in a conservative home. She attended an all girls college, Wellesley, as an undergraduate. She became the class president and gave the commencement address upon graduation, an address that challenged a sitting US senator on his call for the students to resist the urge to become anti-Vietnam War. The address received a standing ovation, and she was put on the cover of a major magazine.
She met Bill Clinton at Yale Law School, and the moved to Arkansas. There she transformed Arkansas’ schools and proved to be an asset to Bill’s campaigns. She even went to a press conference held by one of Bill’s opponents and corrected him in front of the press after he mischaracterized Bill’s stances on issues. In Arkansas she and Bill raised daughter Chelsea to be a good kid and she certainly has fulfilled that.
When Bill ran for president in 1992, the nation was introduced to Hillary Rodham Clinton, a forceful, professional woman that exuded intelligence and strength. She stirred up controversy then, and still does. I think this says a lot about a woman. Obedient, submissive, quiet, lackluster women never make history, never create bug change. Look at the women that have changed women’s roles in America up until today; Victoria Woodhull, Eleanor Roosevelt, Shirley Chisolm, Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, or Ann Richards for example, these were some outgoing, outspoken women. Eleanor Roosevelt transformed the role of First Lady. She was very much involved in her husband’s successful presidency, and involved in government after his death. Hillary caused controversy more than a few times during the 1992 campaign. She would become the nation’s first First Lady with a post-graduate degree, and had her own professional career outside of being the First Lady of Arkansas. She was attacked by the media by saying she could stay at home and bake cookies, but she chose not to and instead had a career of her own. The ridiculous media uproar forced Clinton to come out with a cookie recipe of her own……no I am not kidding.
She also got heat from the media regarding remarks the media and some others saw as offensive when she mentioned Tammy Wynette and standing by her man. This was during the time when the media was asking about Bill Clinton’s marital infidelities. Bill Clinton is a political genius, a personal hero of mine as a moderate Democrat, and a very smart man, however I think his record on marital fidelity has angered many women and it frustrated me. Since this piece is on Hillary, not Bill, I want to look at her role in all of this. Hillary Clinton had to handle the national spotlight, the media, and all of the while had a family to deal with, a daughter to raise, and aging parents to consider. She represented what many American women went through, and still do today, to a greater extent. She was under tremendous pressure. And she handled it gracefully as ever. She persevered, and no matter how you feel about how she handled herself as First Lady when it came to marital problems, it was HER choice, and she had to decide, not the media, not women as a whole, Hillary Rodham Clinton had to decide. After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, some women and some in the media were telling her to end her marriage. I found it sickening that the US Congress impeached a president for lying about such a personal, non-government related issue. I am of the opinion that one should be impeached for leaving thousands upon thousands of US citizens stranded on rooftops in one of our largest cities as dead bodies float down the street, rotting in the hot southern sun. I found it inspirational on the other hand, that this woman, this amazing woman got up, and kept on fighting. They beat the impeachment trial in the senate and this ridiculous thing was over, for those of us that were sane. The media obsessed and obsessed itself with the scandal. They proved how unworthy they were, and still are in many respects, to serve the American people. The media ignored things that really mattered like a war in Bosnia, economic growth, and US strikes in Afghanistan. Instead they became obsessed in a tabloid news-like fashion with Monica Lewinsky and the president. This whole thing should have ended when Hillary forgave Bill.
Hillary Clinton proved to be an enormously successful and involved First Lady. She negotiated to open borders to allow refugees to pass in Kosovo. She traveled to Beijing, irking the Chinese government, to denounce that nation’s executions of girl babies because of their gender, and spoke out on women’s rights and that these rights are human rights. She helped to create and pass the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) which now covers 6 million children and is the largest expansion of healthcare since Medicare.
In 2000, she ran for the United States Senate from the state of New York. She won there with 55% of the vote, breaking the glass ceilings I have already stated. She was New York’s senator on September 11th, 2001, after which she became something of a hero to the first responders that worked in Ground Zero in the following weeks for being one of the first people to speak out about possible health consequences of breathing in asbestos and benzene that filled the air that day and those after. She made history in the senate by becoming the first senator from New York to serve on the Armed Services Committee.
She was re-elected to the senate in 2006 with 67% of the vote, including winning all but one of the counties George Bush won in his 2004 race, most of which are in northern, conservative New York. This was when rumors peaked about her possible presidential bid. They had been going since 2004, when on Meet the Press, she was asked that in the event of a brokered convention, would she step in and take the nomination, and she said no then. This time was different.
Hillary announced she was running for president in January of 2007. She looked like the frontrunner at that point, a feat in itself for a female candidate in America. The media scrutiny began. Her main rival, to this day, is Barack Obama. The young, charismatic, fresh-faced African American senator from Illinois soon became the media darling. He was the “rock star”, the rockin’ new pol with an appeal to kids because of his age, and because he hopes for change and changes for hope and hopes for hope and changes for change. Meanwhile the mainstream media began to question Hillary’s pant suits, her hair, her laugh, her cleavage, her singing, and her voice. She was asked the tough questions at debates; What would your reaction be to a nuclear strike inside the United States Senator Clinton? And Senator Obama, what are you going to wear for Halloween? And as a follow up, what if UFO’s attacked us? Senator Clinton, who is Vladimir Putin’s successor and what is his name? This was only the tip of the iceberg. The soft ball questions to Senator Obama did not end. The real, tough, important questions to Senator Clinton kept coming, and she kept answering them fabulously. Yet the media called it for Obama. He was so damn hopeful! Saturday Night Live summed it up wonderfully. A sketch in February had a debate between two actors portraying Senators Obama and Clinton. The moderator, “Campbell Brown”, started of by saying that as others in the media are, they too were “totally in the tank for Senator Obama”. That summed it up nicely.
The media analysis on Sunday talk shows like Meet the Press and Late Edition all brought in panelists that just adored Barack Obama and spent the entire length of the discussion taking jabs at Hillary, Bill Clinton, and the Clinton Campaign. Meet the Press had most panels consist of a woman and 3 men, 4 if you include Russert. Russert is a story in himself. At the debates he co-moderated, he had a “gotcha” question for Hillary every time. Not one for Obama. He asked Hillary if she agreed with her husband’s quote on torture after not disclosing who said the quote and asking; He also asked the Russian President question recently where he tried to catch her not knowing the successor’s name, even though she did. NBC and their affiliate cable news network seems to have a hatred, or at the very least, a bias against not only Hillary, but her husband. MSNBC had a morning show with Joe Scarborough (who was fair to both candidates), Mika Brzezinski, and Willie Geist, along with frequent guests like Pat Buchanan, Eugene Robinson, and Chris Matthews (I will address him separately). Mika Brzezinski was one of the worst on the network in showing her bias for Obama openly. Her father advises Obama, and some of her family members work for Obama, yet only a few times did I see the show disclose this, almost never did they do this.
Chris Matthews deserves his own paragraph, so this one’s for you my friend from Philly. He had a strange habit of talking about Barack Obama as if the senator from Illinois was John F. Kennedy, the war hero, 8 year Congressional vet JFK. The senator from Illinois who was a community organizer and a state senator. He talked of a “thrill going up” his leg when Obama made a speech. He compared Obama to JFK countless times, especially after the only living Kennedy brother, Ted Kennedy, lobbed his endorsement onto Obama. Chris talked of Hillary less then kindly. She was, according to him, only elected to the senate because Bill had an affair and people felt sorry for her. She was shrill, she cackled. Hillary made him mad because she got him with a great back-and-forth at an AFSCME debate in 2007. He was not to be made fun of or pushed around by a WOMAN! How dare she try to play on his level. Look up the exchange from the AFSCME debate on you tube or online somewhere else, it is quite funny to see how frustrated he gets when someone in the audience shouts “ask a real question!” Hillary answers the questions in al debates gracefully, and with more knowledge than any candidate I have ever seen about or read about. She talked extemporaneously in an interview about issues ranging from Global Warming to Healthcare to suicide rates among gay teens. She answered the questions she was asked, usually first, and then Obama would follow up with “I agree with what Hillary said”…..and then he would say that the difference is he is hopeful to make change.
Now, I am going to shift focus to the supporters of Senator Barack Obama. I certainly respect their decision to choose him over Senator Clinton. I respect them and their candidate. The same cannot be said for them. From what I, and other Clinton supporters I know, and Hillary herself have had to put up with from this cult-like following of his is asinine. Whether it be phrases like “Bros before Ho’s”, or “Get Back in the Kitchen Hillary”, or the use of the RANCID, PUTRID, DISGUSTING word cunt to describe her, I have been shocked and sickened. And the most disgusting thing about it is that these words are coming from the mouths and thoughts of so-called democrats or liberals, or even from feminists. I have been so turned off by this. That is not the way a democrat talks about a woman, no matter who she is. No republican should either. The Obama supporters I know have used the disturbing word I referenced above, and they act like it is no big deal. I would never call Barack Obama the N-word. I would never do that. I am a democrat, a democrat that will ALWAYS be with my party. These people don’t have a single loyalty to our party for the most part. They are truly “Obama-crats” and will never understand how politics truly work in America. Republicans are crossing over in droves to choose our nominee to suit their needs for the General Election. I have read a comment put out on the website Republicans for Obama dot com, where they call on Republicans to cross over and vote for Obama, because he is a blank slate that can be defined and Hillary is not as easily beatable. I cannot believe true democrats are trying to nominate another, yes ANOTHER unelectable northern liberal candidate. Have we not learned our lessons? Do we not remember what they did to John Kerry, George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, and what they have done to others because of different, yet similar issues, like Harold Ford Junior? Is our collective memory that short as a party? Are we that intoxicated on the Obama Kool-aid and Hope-ium that we are falling for a candidate that, mark my words, will be defined as a Chicago liberal elitist that is inexperienced in most issues facing our country right now? Are we seriously going to put that up against John McCain? John McCain, the war hero, prisoner of war, Armed Services committee ranking member John McCain? Are the Obama fans serious? He cannot hope John McCain gives in to hope and change. John McCain is no pushover, please. All of the while, people are passing up the opportunity to elect a nominee that also serves on the Armed Services Committee, has been to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan 3-4 times, has been to over 80 countries on our nation’s behalf, has withstood years of attacks from Fox, Rush, and all of those other asses, and after being attacked, became a US Senator? A woman that has video footage of John McCain saying on Meet the Press that she would be a great president (good commercial for the GE Hillary)? A woman that personally knows Pervez Musharraf, Hamid Karzai, Nuri al Maliki, the leaders of Northern Ireland, Jordan, Israel, China, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Japan and so many other leaders? She is someone to take on John McCain.
And to make things better, she is a woman! DUH! Imagine what this would say to the world. Women are everywhere, in every culture. Women in Africa who know her from her visits there would say “the most powerful nation on earth has a woman in charge, I can do anything”. Women in China will say “I remember when she came here and changed our lives with one speech, she inspired us to go out and create NGO’s and businesses, and now she is the president”. And American dads can finally tell the truth to their daughters when they say you can be any thing you want to be, to say that now is a lie. They can tell their daughters this confidently, not just their sons. A personal story: I was at a Democratic event in Iowa this past summer and when she spoke, she walked through the crowd, shaking hands, and she stopped to take pictures on the way out. I saw a little girl with a sign that said “I can be president”. Tears formed in my eyes. She then led the crowd in singing happy birthday to a boy of about 10, and after she talked with him and his friends, they ran to their parents saying “the president sang Happy Birthday to me!” That caused me to tear up again. I realized, a woman is actually running for president and doing really well. Wow. That took me back.
After a while, I am beginning to question whether or not America is ready for a woman president. People say they are. I disagree. I whole-heartedly know I am. I know my family is. I know they, and I, want it to be Hillary Clinton. I know we are ready for an African American president. The difference is that most Americans agree with me on my last point, not the former one. Polls say one thing, but I disagree. Why, I would ask, do you see white men and African Americans breaking for Obama? The white men in this nation would rather a man do the job. That’s how it is. A woman with Barack Obama’s resume, as Dee Dee Meyers has pointed out, would not get anywhere in a primary. He has no foreign policy experience when we have 2 wars going on and terrorism as a problem, and Russia re-entering the Cold War days, and China rising. He has little experience on economics, when we have a faltering economy and a massive deficit. He has no experience with the military when we will be facing a republican nominee that served in the military and continues to work with them. Imagine if a woman with this list of like 2 accomplishments ran. She would be laughed at by everyone. ESPECIALLY against John McCain.
I always ask people that say that they are ready for a female Commander in Chief but not Hillary, who? They say Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas, or others that have not yet arrived on the scene. I say, first of all Kathleen Sebelius is a conservative Democrat from a tiny state that never votes democratically and is a very, very boring person frankly. Secondly, I say there will be no one in a VERY long time with as much preparedness and ability as this woman. No woman can match her on Foreign policy, on Military policy, on popularity in her party, name recognition, her famous and VERY popular husband, her knowledge on healthcare and education, and so much else. No one can become a president against the massive republican attack machine as easy as she can. I always assumed the first female president would be a republican conservative like Elizabeth Dole or Kay Bailey Hutchison, but we have a chance here for the first time to elect a woman president. A woman who has a proven record. A woman that can defeat McCain so easily. A woman that, as her husband admitted, was part of the only Democrat to beat a republican president and a challenger to get two terms since FDR. He remains popular today among not only Americans but among the people of the world. Now is the time. People picking the stuffed suit that will be handily defeated by John McCain, know this; I am a member of the University Democrats Executive Board where I go to school. I am a Latino. I am gay. I have a heavily unionized family. If we nominate Barack Obama, I will start a write-in campaign to write her in. This IS the time. SHE is the woman. She is the ONE. We can make history and give over half of the world and our country’s population what it is due now, LONG OVER DUE.
Weird…now I have the Beatles “Everybody has something to hide ‘cept for me and my monkey” playing in my head.
I swear this board has demons infesting it.
I don’t know who Cleaver is, but if he will stay where he is, people should be supporting and sympathizing with him and Clinton’s other black supporters and members of her campaign, etc. Any support and sympathy given to the one’s who’ve fled and will flee is like taking away from the ones who’ve stayed. Her black true supporters are likely under the same amount of pressure to switch, and if they don’t, they probably need extra support–and should get extra rewards.
Hawk…lol…Honey, that’s a book right there!
I just flipped to Fox and they’re doing something on Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus and now I have that running through my head.
MUCH better.
guys have you notiiced that most of the numbers we call on the make-calls thing is for women only?
Yes MJS. I’ve noticed that.
Fran, he’s an Ohio congressman.
meanwhile, our opponent’s caller thing has males and females…
Well, to be fair women vote more. In CA, I think, women were 60% of the vote.
How do you know that, MJS?
in other words. If you want a better idea of how Hillary stands in Texas, the opponent’s caller thing gives a better idea of all the voters, not necessarily just female voters.
Idunn, while I did not make any calls, I checked on that site and all the nices varied from male to female and hispanic, etc.
MJS, I had a significant number of males on my call list today…AND they were all for Hillary. No worries.
interesting
Fan, once this is over, I plan to fundraise for thse folks. It’s very hard to stand for Hill in the aa community right now, which shows you how bizarre this election is.
Did anyone see The View today? They talked about media bias and sexism. I could put it on YouTube if you like.
Welp, I’m off to bed.
Maybe people should be sending Clinton’s superdelegates–like Cleaver–some nice letters of support, applauding them for sticking by her. They’re probably amazing like she is.
Found this. So Hussein Obama may not even carry NY in the GE
.
My survey for Obama’s middle name
asked around about Obama’s middle name in my department (A NY investment bank). Less than 10% people know it. And people who voted for him on Super Tuesday felt regret. NY people are so afraid of Muslim and they remember 911 was a Muslim attack.
This is sort of a counter to the Repugs voting for Omega in TX, but my friend was making calls today and a Democrat voter stated she was voting for McCain! LOL
Hawk,
One word about Mika – she was in the tank for Obama, for a while. But Obama has recently distanced himself from her father – because her father, as NSA under Jimmy Carter, was pro-Palestine and not a friend of Israel. Since Obama made that break, for political purposes, Mika has been sliding away from Obama a bit. She even said this morning: “I’m not in the tank for Obama.”
Yeah, MJS, I have been calling about an equal number of men and women.
Hill guy, for me, I got noticeably fewer male names. The same when I was calling Wisconsin. While I understand this strategy, I think that calls should be made to anyone and everyone who is likely to vote instead of a concentrated demographic.
Please donate! How many of you have donated?
And how’s Texas looking for Hillary?
There comes a time when you just shake your head and go whattttttttttt?
The guy is connected to a 60’s terrorist bomb maker…an anti-semitic church leader…to Resko…to…to…
How many of these connections does Hillary’s opponent have to have attached to himself before media/people realize he is just bad news???
MJS,I think it also has to do with the time of day that you called. When I called during the day time, I was surprised because most people were home, I think because it was targeting seniors.
I have not had any males on my call center.
Let us all send a support mail to Mr. Cleaver.
Poor Tiny.
Sounds like a nasty case of ear worms.
@ben: thanks for posting that. i have never liked mika…i think she is one of the most smug, pompous people on tv… i have never ever ever seen her interview ANYONE without interrupting them… she is flat out rude and disrespectful.
ive had a problem with the fact that she rarely discloses her connections to the campaigns. she can say what she wants, but she’s still in the tank for barry! i watched her this morning and she’s completely obvious. although i would have to say that she is MORE in the tank for bloomberg… she always acts like she has some inside knowledge that he is going to enter the race.
diva, I don’t think Mika has much credibility with ANYBODY. She appears pretty weak to me. Seems like she just wants to look cute – and she’s kind of pitiful trying to get a word in – over Scarborough.
convinced my mom and her husband to vote for hillary in Rhode Island
mangomist3 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
————–
pl. let us not repeat everything we hear. There is early voting going on in TX (and may be OH too). Why the hell are we doing this?
This is sad. Cleaver and Smiley and even Lewis are calling out for the media to hold BO accountable. To recognize what is going on here. WTF? This is a story.
@ben: omg!!! i thought hubby and i were the only ppl that see her checking herself for three hours straight in the monitor and then primping and shifting in her chair…. its hilarious!!! actually it isnt, its pretty gross. glad you see this too though!
@mj: what are you watching? cnn still?
Hawk: you must have been reading DeeDee blog. me too. hope you posted your thoughts there
I have a really good feeling about Texas. Call me hopeful (ugh I now hate that word). The support on the phone has been exuberant; I called this one male voter, and he had me hold on to speak to his wife who was so excited to talk me (I could hear her in the background!) It was great!
Also, like CA, I really REALLY think the polls are under-representing Latino voters. If you look at SUSA’s most recent poll, only 28% of those polled were Latino. They stated they were basing this on “expected” turnout. However, as we ALL know, the turnout in CA for Latino voters was HUGE, and some experts predict the TX Latino turnout to be anywhere from 40-50%.
Tiny Dancer: I wouldn’t mind seeing it.
if you remember, not even a couple of weeks ago, some of us were saying that somebody knows something and they aren’t telling us…well folks strategically all the cards are never played in the first hand…I’d bet money the best is yet to come!
be patient, stay with the phones, and contribute… Hillary is in it toWIN!!!
Greetings… just got off phone banking and a conf call.
With regards to who’s name comes up on the call feature on the web page, the whole thing is programmed. Depending on where you live and who the campaign is targetting, you get a different list of people to call. My calls from here in massatoosets go to Rhode Island and I have been getting mostly seniors and lots of men. My friend who is women is getting mostly women.
The campaign has been trying to connect people from similar demographics to an extent with seniors calling seniors, women calling women and so forth but it is not a very tight feature of the calling program
That is going in as many ocal journals as possible, we as students can post books if we want, so this isn’t too long compared to toher things I have read.
AND…we have Ace Smith in charge of Texas. The man is an organizational genius. And they don’t call him “The Stopper” for nothin. He was credited for bring SoCal Latino voters to the polls in droves.
Off to a date auction for charity at a bar downtown! Bye! I donated today and yesterday. Keep it comin up.
Ronald,
LOL – Massa-TOO-setts! I wonder why Obama can’t pronounce that. Another Bush maybe?
so how does Texas look? I know polls have it close but? Isnt it really that close?
Also DONATE DONATE DONATE!
I hate when he says Pakistan, Taliban, and Massa-TOO-setts. Ugh. He’s such an idiot.
Just Bill Clinton’s rally in TX on C-Span. Nothing can beat that!
@ben: dont forget abt POCK-a-STAAHHN.
mj, I would be very interested in hearing more about this. what do you mean? where did you hear that?
And hearing the good vibes about texas warms my heart.
@ben: TAH-LEE-BAHN
I just wanted to speak a bit here today, but I’ll go back to keeping my heretical thoughts to my own places.
I’m just really depressed over what a mess america has become. Like, ugh. I’ve been extremely disappointed over many of the people who were supposedly “something” different, or supposedly were better than average. As a nihilist largely, I never thought they were that big a deal, I thought many people in government and out were probably overrated, but, geez, can’t they do better than this?
Gore? Where are you? You won’t endorse Clinton? Well, fuck you. Yet another disappointment in a long line of eight years of disappointment.
Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver Kansas City
816.842.4545
Independence
816.833.4545
Washington D.C.
202.225.4535
*****
He cannot accept email from anyone who is not in his state.
Call this man tomorrow.
I salute HIM. Nice to see some backbone.
Remember these numbers tomorrow
Fran
It aint over…keep saying that, stop looking at your tv, and reading the delusion bashers out there.
Stay here where we support Hillary no matter what!!!
I am just connecting the dots. Smiley stated publically he was getting threats. Cleaver’s comments are upthread. Lewis seemed heart broken and said he had to think of his family. At this point, the media is supposed to step to the plate and ask what is going on here?
I am in love with Hillary’s upcoming schedule:
02/28: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for America” Rally in Houston!
02/29: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for America” Rally in San Antonio!
03/01: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for America” Rally in Fort Worth!
03/01: Join Hillary for a “Solutions for America” Rally in Dallas!
03/03: Join President Clinton for a “Solutions for America” Rally in El Paso!
Fran,
It’s really hard to stay encouraged with weapons being thrown from all directions at Hillary. It’s especially hard to realize that the DNC could do what they are doing. Even so, Hillary is fighting for her life and whether Gore or anyone else endorses her, she is an amazing lady.
It’s hard to stay positive but I just love how she doesn’t give up…no matter what is thrown at her.
@fran: i am hopeful that good will conquer evil in this election!!! vent. get it out. whatever. but keep envisioning hillary in the white house. keep envisioning her acceptance speech in denver, etc… i believe in “the secret”… it works!!! keep seeing it in your head… i know it sounds hokey, but it works!!!
Karl Rove getting ready for the ObamaTakeDown(tm)
Tell em Karl…never thought I’d like Karl Rove….
Im hoping that she has another rally in Austin
I know, Debbie, I don’t look at any news or read any mainstream articles–I’m still rooting for Clinton, I feel that someway, somehow, we’ll likely get what we want in the very end as the media tide suddenly seems to be turning against BO. However, I’m still disappointed at how craven so many people have turned out–that cravenness and other disappointing behavior will have still happened no matter how the election turns out.
Eh, maybe that will be a bit of a good thing in the end: at least people will know more about what others are really made of….
Donated $28.44 to honor Chelsea and Hillary. You can see the love and closeness between the two of them at the debates, reading each other’s thoughts and minds. Chelsea has been her saving grace IMHO. About “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” – exactly. This is how I described this Obamamania phenom at the beginning of January. Seemingly intelligent people just losing all rationality overnight. Wonder if they all turn into giant green pods at night? They are certainly robotic in their lack of sensitivity and lack of conscience as to what they are throwing away – democracy in America. Every time I think of Obama/Farrakhan/Wright and TUCC, I become nauseous. My grandfather, who fought on the Hindenburg line during WWI against Kaiser Wilhelm – was a “Democrat’s Democrat” and would tell you real quick that FDR saved this country. He cried every time he talked about it. At the end of WWI, upon returning from overseas, he spoke reverently about the ship entering New York Harbor, the clouds breaking and seeing a relatively new Statue of Liberty, breaking out in song “God Bless America”. Woodrow Wilson was on board. He lived to celebrate 103 years, died believing the Democratic party was the only hope for this country. If he knew that this country was on the verge of electing someone like Obama with ties to Nation of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan and TUCC- a racist, separtist church, and had no real credentials he would roll over in his grave. People – this is the most dastardly act that these clueless, spiritually-empty Americans can inflict upon us all – to elect a candidate with known ties to a Jewish and Gentile hater. I truly believe when this country turns it’s back on the Jewish people and Israel, this country will see the wrath of God like it never has before. If you believe in God, I implore all of you to pray and yes – give testimony to everyone you see – because this country has not only lost it’s way – we are doomed beyond hope if Obama leads this country. If you have no religious thoughts and don’t subscribe to a higher being – I still call on you to reject the hate and racism that Farrakhan and his supporters represent. How do these mindless people – void of conscience – do this? Where is the outrage from the Fundamentalist AA masses who know that anyone who covets someone like Louis Farakkhan may as well be the devil himself? These Christ-filled AA know that this is not what Martin Luther King Jr. would do. God help us if people don’t wake up to the truth.
@dot: what do you know? spill it sistah!
diva: we all need to get in on the “secret”. Envision folks…yes, she can win this.
We must be all the targets of a vast right wing conspiracy, because I am liking Karl Rove more and more everytime I see him. God, I wish it was November 5th already.
dot what do you know abt rove??? has he said anything new?
Fran, I am totally feeling you with your frustration. I have never been so disappointed in my life. There are times when I just feel like crying and I ask myself WTF are people thinking? Am I living in a twilight zone? But, when I see Hillary everyday still fighting, I keep on believing. She will be rewarded.
justmeinmountdorafl: I too wish she had another rally scheduled in Austin, but Bill has been there a couple times in the past week.
But she will be blanketing Florida over the next three days, and I am so pleased that she is having RALLIES where her message can he heard by the masses, rather than these “roundtables”, which, although effective, don’t reach as many people at once.
Maybe Hillary should do another town hall meeting with Texas Ohio Rhode Island and Vermont? It could be televised like the last one.
what do you guys think?
Karl Rove on Hannity….I’mm getting the gist that Farrakan is going to be Obama’s blister. Karl Rove, Shaun Hannity both had some interesting things to say. Farrahkan, the flag pin, Michelle’s remarks…
Also, I take it that Michelle Obama’s thesis is going to come back to Haunt her …. BOO HOO
Karl Rove just tonight throwing out a few things to chew on…he is just getting warmed up. Hannity is getting ready to zoom in bam,bam on bambi.
I can’t really explain what I heard but it is not going to go well for Bambi. Karl says Hillary can still come back even though the Texas caucus is skewed to Obama.
Hillary needs to ride it out…the scrutiny is going to come onto the chosen one in the light and he’s going to take some hits.
Ronald, she IS having one, but only in Texas. This from her website:
Save the Date: On Monday, March 3 at 6:30-7:30 p.m. CST, Hillary will host a ‘Texas-Sized’ interactive town hall in Texas. The town hall will be broadcast live on Fox Sports Network Southwest and on the Internet at HillaryClinton.com.
Ronald,
I think the ST eve town hall meeting was a waste of money. Many people who get the hallmark channel do not even know that they could get it and therefore did not watch. I would do what they did back in 92 do 60 minutes sunday night.
Dot, that is great news from Karl Rove. Never thought I would say that.
Wait, why is she going to Florida?
Dot makes a fascinating point. We have all these Republican strategists saying “Don’t count Hillary out”, “She’ll make a comeback”, etc.
Even THEY know she’s not done. The ONLY ONLY people who want her to be done are Obama’s supporters. We already know the Republican Machine is wiser than they are.
just what we’ve been discussing…
“HRC’s black supporters pressed to support Obama”
dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=5CD04699-3048-5C12-00306357C4F1617C
Anti-Obama Attacks Zero In on Farrakhan Support, Israel Policy
by FOXNews.com
elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/27/anti-obama-attacks-zero-in-on-farrakhan-support-israel-policy/
on CNN Headline News (I don’t know the host’s name) guest Stephen Hayes (Weekly Standard) flatly said that the Obama campaign was quick to play the race card with the somali pictures and to point at Hillary’s campaign even as they acknowledged they did not know where it came from. Goes back to show Wilentz is right.
hey guys, she will have a texas-sized interactive town hall but it will also be streaming on her website so you can watch it there as well!
yeah, tell me about Florida, I live there, so whats up
Those dates that Idunn gave us March 5 through March 8 … something besides Rezco. The church of the chosen one is now under investigation. That will even by IRS admission take some time so it is not that.
Michelle Obama is his weakest link……
Also, Sean Hannity basically told republicans in Texas to vote for Hillary.
Hillguy,
why is she going to florida???????????
Good night folks. Keep the faith – there’s still plenty of time left in this campaign!
dot48:
Rush Limbaugh has also been pushing this idea for the past 2 days. He is calling on republicans in Texas to vote for Hillary to keep the race close and cause further havoc within the democratic party.
We need a list of every African American super delegate. While I don’t think this is going to the superdelegates…we need to show that Hillary supporters care enough to send an email to them and tell them to STAND FIRM.
Please somebody smart…start a list.. we need to call those people as well as phone banking, giving $, etc.
I cannot contribute again until the first of the month. I’m honestly broke
Fox has definitely turned the page. Looks like they out to fry Obama now.
Where in Florida, Spacegirl and I will be there!
dang…somethings really wrong with me..I’m actually watching Fox
Bill Cunningham coming up on Fox again. He must have moved in for the day.
Hillary lost a major endorsement, Lewis, he went for Obama
at this point I don’t give a flying fig what it does to the “internal” democratic party. They have done NOTHING to stop what is happening.
If Howard Dean would devote l/4 of the time to getting on media shows and point out the unfairness of this all nonstop Obama lurvefest and encourage a full and fair coverage as well as vetting of all the candidates…as he does to try to frickin bum money … well we would be a whole lot better off.
The DNC will never get another red cent from me.
The party should be encouraging fair play and COUNT EVERY VOTE.
Don’t leave Florida or Michigan out.
wait… i show her in tx through march 1st…
politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/schedules/upcomingevents/index.html
does anyoen think its weird that bambi is only doing one event on the 28th and hrc has three on the 28th…?
debbie:
Don’t be too hard on yourself
A lot of us are watching and listening to stuff that just 8 weeks ago we would have never dreamed of!
I think it’s less of a reflection on us, and more of one on how MSM has treated Hillary.
Basil, I didn’t say anything about Hillary going to FL. Someone else did I believe. I have no knowledge of a FL visit. All upcoming visits for her look to be in TX.
LJ, are you here? You did it! I love you. Great video. You are adorable!
Sorry hillguy. It’s been a long day. I’m gonna get off now.
Instead of Barack Hussein Obama .. they want it to be Barack HolyOne Obama…..the dude has a middle name .. whats wrong with it.
For those worried about Texas, you know the state where up to 45% of the voters could be Hispanic?:
New Poll: Hillary Maintains Commanding Lead Among Hispanics in Texas
Austin, TX – With less than a week before Latinos cast their votes in the Texas primaries, a new poll released today shows Senator Hillary Clinton with a commanding 41 point lead over Senator Barack Obama.
A new Latino Decisions Texas Poll found that Hillary leads her opponent among registered Latino voters in Texas 62% to 21%, with 15% undecided.
The poll also shows that in head to head general election match-ups, Clinton outperforms Obama against John McCain by a margin of two to one.
“While we are taking nothing for granted and working hard to earn every vote, Senator Clinton have a strong relationship with the Hispanic community in Texas dating back to 1972,” said Congressman Solomon Ortiz (TX–27). “She’s been working with the community for 36 years, and they understand that she’s been tested, is fighting for them, and that she’s the candidate who has the best chance of beating John McCain in November.”
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6241
hillguy,
just doublechecked. You said this.
‘But she will be blanketing Florida over the next three days, and I am so pleased that she is having RALLIES where her message can he heard by the masses, rather than these “roundtables”,’
That’s wht confused me. So IS she going there?
Basil, SORRY!! Major typo. Meant to say Texas. I apologize.
Whew!!!! Needed confirmation that I’m not imagining this.
I’m going to bed.
In celebration of Hillary’s sustained Hispanic support in Texas, I am listening to J.Lo in Spanish.
read this peeps! dont skip!
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/003455print.html
maybe this is whats coming????
taken from noquarter.com
“simple questions for mr obama”
Not complicated. No nuance. Very straightforward. First, is there any member of your staff–presidential campaign or senatorial office (including district staff)–who is a member of the Nation of Islam? If no, then never mind. We will condemn Debbie Schlussel for spreading a vicious unfounded rumor. But if the answer is yes, then you have a problem.
There are certain groups and individuals that should not be allowed anywhere near an office of public trust like the Presidency. Nazis, KKK, David Duke, and the Nation of Islam. This is not about being anti-black. If the individuals in question were members of CORE or the NAACP no problem. Those groups push for equality. They don’t preach a form of racism and hate. It is up to Senator Obama to be very clear and precise–no member of his staff will belong to or associate with any organization that preaches hatred and racial division.
lol, i wonder if any of well-known endorsers of Hillarys will go to Vermont or is that a lost cause?
Im upset that Lewis gave in to the Obama-pressure
Signing off for a bit… Keep it POSITIVE PEOPLE!
Donate, donate, donate!
The terrorist connection to Mr. Obama is going to come back to possibly bite him on the ass. When he has to continue to “denounce and reject” .. well, the more you stir poop.
Drip..Drip..Drip
Okay, I am leaving for the auction, I recommend the VERY popular Puerto Rican group Wisin & Yandel (Rakata, Sexy Movimiento, Mayor Que Yo), very very popular with the Latino youth….PR power if they did something for Hillary. Bye all!
omg!!! it gets worse!!!
READ THIS!!! WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABT THIS???
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/003339print.html
THIS IS A MONTH OLD!!!
YOU GUYS!!! IT GETS WORSE… THIS IS A MONTH OLD AND NO ONE’S TALKING!!!
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/003339print.html
http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/1
Good article, copy/paste it and share it! shows who he really is
I really feel guilty that I watch Fox New all the time. I was watching Bill Cunningham just now and I agreed with him completely. I wish Hillary could say what he said about Hussein Obama. Maybe I am a closet conservative????
@hawk: if youre getting auctioned off… i hope you are REALLY REALLY expensive!!!
dot48:
Rush Limbaugh has also been pushing this idea for the past 2 days. He is calling on republicans in Texas to vote for Hillary to keep the race close and cause further havoc within the democratic party.
**********************************************
I.DON’T.CARE!!!
The DNC let this process become a joke because they wanted anybody else but Clinton. The only time they say something is when Donna Brazile start threatening to leave the democratic party…I say good riddance.
I’m putting the blame on the DNC, elite democratic leaders, arrogant media jerks who think election tampering excludes them and the Neo-Left idiots who think they are the majority in the democratic party. They’re not, they are just a segment that is over representated in leadership positions in the DNC and in the media.
When this is said and done, and a review is underway I hope an independent panel look into the abuses the media played in this election and does something about it. I don’t trust the media to handle it themselves because they never see themselves as wrong or crossing the line but I’ am fed up with this crap.
MSNBC too a large part use their power to do payback on the Clintons for daring to call them out on their B.S. and shameless shilling for Obama and kingmaker. Tweety and Pumpkin Head, Playmate mika, Pimpman Shuster and repug Joe have been the worst offender because they think the American voters don’t understand what they’re doing.
Keith Blowhard need to really look in the mirror before he open his big mouth again about anybody else when it comes to fairness and honesty, because he sure doesn’t walk the line.
fox is ..well fox,, their debate watchers said overwhelmingly there should be Hillary/BO ticket, overwhelmingly said she was better on foreign policy, overwhelmingly said she has more experience…then fox says Hillary had a slight lead in the debate….go figure
so fox is good
.
btw. maybe Hussein Obama’s anti-war no flag pin wearing action would be painted by the GOP as terrorist friendly. They will make sense of everything. I think it will happen
. Go Fox.
please read these stories peeps! i think this is major stuff!!!
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/003339print.html
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/003455print.html
divabunny, we should forward the links to fox. Hussein，Arabs，Palestinians，anti-war，donations, wow, all the right keywords.
justmeinmountdorafl, that is a great article from Houston Press. make sure it to email it to the admin.
http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/print
EVERYONE, READ THIS ARTICLE AND CIRCULATE IT.
It is from a reporter from a small Hyde Park, Chicago community paper who covered Obama when he was in the state senate.
The article clearly shows what a dangerous phony Obama is.
Question for Tim Russel and the MSNBC staff:
Is that anyway to talk to the former First Lady of the United States?
@TPS, I read the article. It gives a lot of information on Hussein Obama. Some people may think the reporter is just being jealous though. Ugh.
carbynew:
When I posted that bit about Rush I was not implying it was necessarily a bad thing. I’d be more than happy to see that non-democratic vote evening out a bit.
“# Ronald Says:
Question for Tim Russel and the MSNBC staff:
Is that anyway to talk to the former First Lady of the United States?”
That’s a good question. Actually is that even a way to talk to a lady? Never liked that pig head Tim Russel.
Jubjub,
its true. and I seem to be the only one who noticed how during the Austin debate, when Hillary shook Obama’s right hand, he used his left hand to squeeze the back of her arm in a very quick and subtle way- he basically grabbed her. He was trying to throw her off by squeezing the back of her arm, near her breast.
Its a very offensive thing to do to a woman, particularly and older woman.
Ronald,
Really? I did not watch the debate because I just absolutely can’t stand Hussein Obama. I don’t think he has a thread of gentleman in him.
jub,
no of course he doesn’t but he certainly comes off that way. Watch the clip of the end of the debate when Hillary gives her awesome closing statement and then graciously shakes Obama’s hand. Its very fast but its there. In any other setting most women would have slapped him. I would have and Im not a woman.
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/brattleboro-reformer/TB1K3HPRA03NA6G1N#lastPost
Please go comment on this article
3 commendable reps who also need to be thanked.
Ron,
I always want to slap Hussein Obama
. What’s the deal with his lips. Does he drink a lot of grape juice?
divabunny:
Thanks for posting those links. Here’s one posted yesterday I believe, that also explains the bambi/Said connection:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/the-swiftboating-of-obama_b_88279.html
jub,
no. I am convinced his lips are blue from his long history of heavy smoking. Its called cyanosis and it shows he isn’t getting enough oxygen from his lungs- likely due to early emphysema
Hey there everyone…
back from call and email land. I’m catching up on the blog.
did y’all see this?
Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, February 27, 2008 — 9:34 PM ET
—–
Michael Bloomberg Confirms He Will Not Run for President
Michael Bloomberg writes in an op-ed in Thursday’s New York
Times: “I listened carefully to those who encouraged me to
run, but I am not — and will not be — a candidate for
president.”
Read More:
http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na
divabunny:
thanks for those links. great info. here’s one that was posted yesterday I believe, and has some more info about the bambi/Said connection, as well as his relationship with Ayers.
w w w.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/the-swiftboating-of-obama_b_88279.html
See this YOUTUBE VIDEO of OBAMA where he sounds like George McGovern trying to cut defense (via Marc Ambinder). The Republicans will have a field day with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs&eurl=http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/
back from calling Texas and sending emails
did y’all see this?
Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, February 27, 2008 — 9:34 PM ET
—–
Michael Bloomberg Confirms He Will Not Run for President
Michael Bloomberg writes in an op-ed in Thursday’s New York
Times: “I listened carefully to those who encouraged me to
run, but I am not — and will not be — a candidate for
president.
See this YOUTUBE VIDEO OF OBAMA sounding like George McGovern trying to cut defense. The Republicans will have a field day with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs
Ron,
I was just joking. A Chinese friend of mine told me purple lips are a symptom of weak kidney according to the Chinese medicine. I like your theory too. No wonder he can’t talk like an intelligent person. Apparently he does not have enough oxygen from his lungs to his brain. Now everything make sense
.