The REZKO Cometh

We have written for a long time that like all con artists, three-card monte thieves, and flim-flam men, Obama is running to keep one step ahead of the law.

Obama’s great gamble has always been that he can get the Democratic Party nomination before the trial of his benefactor and indicted slumlord friend gathers attention from Big Media. Once the Democratic Party nominated him, Democrats then would be forced to protect Obama as well as his slumlord dealings. The gamble has thus far paid off. The odds however are increasing that Obama is about to crap out on his big gamble.

Thanks to Rezko watchers here at Big Pink, and the increasingly formidable RezkoWatch, the slumlord’s friend faces the possibility that the slow wheels of the law will run him over:

In one sense, Barack Obama is quite fortunate that Tony Rezko’s trial doesn’t get under way until March 3, because it’s unlikely to have any effect on the crucial contests taking place in Texas and Ohio the following day. If Obama wins in either state, as James Carville said recently, “this thing is done.”

However, if Clinton manages to hold serve in Texas and Ohio, the ground shifts to Pennsylvania, which doesn’t vote until nearly six weeks later on April 22. At that point the Rezko trial will be most likely be in full bloom.

Furthermore, if Obama does manage to knock Clinton out on March 4, the Rezko trial immediately becomes part of the general election narrative. Though Obama hasn’t been accused of any wrong doing, it’s clearly not helpful to have one of your major political benefactors on trail for fraud and corruption while you’re trying to win the White House.

Kudos to the Hillary campaign for beginning to question what Big Media refuses to question. Howard Wolfson:

Much is known about her [Clinton’s] finances. There’s an awful lot of information disclosed by her, and if Senator Obama is actually, really interested in transparency, there are many questions — for instance, about his relationship with indicted political fixer Tony Rezko that he could answer, that he has not. What was the exact nature of his relationship with Mr. Rezko? How many fundraisers did Mr. Rezko throw for him? How much money did Mr. Rezko bundle for him? How many business meetings did Senator Obama attend that Mr. Rezko was at? What was he doing at those business meetings? What favors did Senator Obama perform for Mr. Rezko? So there’s an awful lot of information that, if Senator Obama is interested in transparency, that he could come forward and offer the American people.

The slow wheels are turning:

Already, anonymous sites like RezkoWatch have popped up, ready to detail all the sordid ins and outs of the trial and speculate as to what it all means for Obama. The Chicago media will certainly cover the trial closely, and national outlets will pick up pieces of it as well. It will definitely be part of the media bloodstream.

And there are other issues out there for Obama that will get more exposure as well, as Timothy Burger details today. The Clinton campaign hopes this will play into their contention that their candidate is the one who has been “fully vetted” by the national media, while Obama has not.

As we wrote, the “Catch Me If You Can” candidate is running as fast as he can to outrun the law and the truckload of unanswered questions:

Hillary Clinton questions whether Barack Obama would be able to withstand what she calls the “Republican attack machine.” If Obama does become the Democratic presidential nominee, his Chicago ties might provide the fuel.

While the Illinois senator has never been accused of wrongdoing, some of the associations he formed as a community organizer and politician in Chicago may provide fodder for attacks, Democratic and Republican political experts say.

Besides his relationship with indicted businessman Antoin Rezko, Obama might face Republican criticism over contacts with a former leader of the Weather Underground, a banker with ties to a convicted felon and even his church.

“He has had relationships with individuals who are controversial, he has had relationships with individuals who are in trouble,” said Cindi Canary, director of the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform.

Canary says that “there has been no link whatsoever that ties him to their troubles.” Even so, that may not immunize him from attack. In 2004, Massachusetts Democratic Senator John Kerry, the presidential nominee, was subjected to unfounded criticism about his service in the Vietnam War.

The assertion that there is no link that ties Obama to “their troubles” is myopic at best, simply blind more likely. Does anyone really think that Obama bought a gorgeous house with lovely mahogony fireplaces only to have the former side yard turned into some sort of development? Does anyone really think that Obama would buy a house whose side yard and future “developed property” is ONLY accessible by walking past his own mansion and be content with the idea of months, if not years of construction? Does anyone really think that Obama bought his house without knowing if there would be a Quik-E-Mart next door, or some other commercial or large scale residential development? And of course there is the FBI mole/informant that contradicts Obama’s assertions that he barely knew Rezko.

“I think that it is inevitable that the media and Republicans will try to resort to these tactics,” said Julian Epstein, a Democratic strategist. Epstein says he isn’t affiliated with any campaign, though he has raised money for Clinton, given advice to Clinton and former candidate Bill Richardson, and would advise Obama if asked.

Alex Conant, the Republican National Committee press secretary, said that if Obama “wants to be commander-in-chief, he’s going to have to answer to his record in Illinois.”

Unanswered questions, questions, questions:

Still, Obama’s past endorsements and donors may give opponents material to work with. One target might be his 2006 backing of Democrat Alexi Giannoulias, who was elected Illinois state treasurer.

During the campaign, the Democratic speaker of the state House and other party leaders criticized Giannoulias because of loans his family bank made to Michael “Jaws” Giorango, a convicted felon. Obama stuck with Giannoulias after the revelations, though he did call on him to explain the matter.

“I’m going to ask Alexi directly what is happening,” Obama said in April 2006, according to the Chicago Tribune.

More recently, Obama has conceded it was “boneheaded” of him to buy a home in June 2005 for $1.65 million with the involvement of Rezko, who was under federal investigation at the time. Rezko was indicted 16 months later on unrelated corruption charges, and is awaiting trial in jail. Over the past year, Obama, 46, has returned about $85,000 in campaign contributions given or raised by Rezko.

When Obama bought the home in Chicago’s Kenwood neighborhood, Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased, for $625,000, adjoining land that the house’s owners insisted on selling at the same time. Seven months later, she sold the Obamas one-sixth of her lot, for $105,000, so they could expand their yard. [snip]

Besides Rezko and Giannoulias, Obama could face questions about his relationship with William Ayers, a former member of the radical group the Weather Underground who is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois in Chicago. Ayers donated $200 in 2001 to Obama’s Illinois state Senate campaign and served with him from 1999 to 2002 on the nine-member board of the Woods Fund, an anti-poverty group.

The Weather Underground carried out a series of bombings in the early 1970s — including the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon. While Ayers was never prosecuted for those attacks, he told the New York Times in an interview published Sept. 11, 2001, that “I don’t regret setting bombs.” [snip]

Even the candidate’s church, the Trinity United Church of Christ, and its pastor, Jeremiah Wright, have come under scrutiny. Last month, Obama “strongly” condemned anti-Semitic comments made by Louis Farrakhan after the church’s magazine published an article praising the leader of the Chicago-based Nation of Islam.

In what may be a preview of the attention to come, the church has been barraged with so many questions about its association with Obama that it now responds with an automated e- mail that describes the candidate as a member “for nearly two decades.”

Either Superdelegates will get the answers to Obama entanglement questions or the Republicans will. The REZKO Cometh.


476 thoughts on “The REZKO Cometh

  1. It’s about time this REZKO/Obama dirty dealings came out in the open – fully!! Nobody talks about this because it has to do with the media darling – the next messiah – he who walks on water – OBAMA!! I was so thrilled when Hillary said it in the debate about the slumlord Rezko. It’s only since then we’re hearing a little bit more, but not enough. Can you imagine the constant coverage IF this were about Hillary???

  2. BMerry

    I tried to establish an acct at RW and evidently don’t know what I am doing. It said I already had an acct and I should sign in. Where?

    Anyway this was my comment under Nina Burleigh’s post this morning:


    I graduated from Bloomington (IL) High School 50 years ago this coming May (June?), U of I 46 years ago. I knew Adlai and his family, read the Pantagraph daily, was in Chicago (for another professional meeting) during the convention in 1968, and was in the park with my husband when the hotel windows were smashed in.

    For the sake of the Democratic Party, for Illinois, and for my misguided grandchildren…I beg the Puppet’s Master Manipulator:
    call off this premature presidential run. It is going to be a monumental folly, and ruin many innocent people in the process.

  3. This is very good. And at dkos! hehehe

    A Hillary Clinton supporter speaks
    by BlueMoon
    Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 01:02:20 PM PST
    I have been in lurk mode ever since the nominating contest started but I feel that I finally need to say a few things.

    I have been amazed at how much negativity and even hatred against Hillary Clinton has spilled on this website. Reading it, I feel as if I am reading entries on a Rush
    Limbaugh bulletin board. It is a strange and disappointing feeling.

    I have been trying to get to the bottom of this as well as analyze the sudden
    emergence of Obama as a candidate. Follow me below the fold for some thoughts.

    BlueMoon’s diary :: ::
    First, I can very well understand why a lot of the more liberal, or “grassroots” as you like to call them, Democrats dislike Clinton. Yes, she is not liberal enough for you. Heck, a lot of you will never forgive her husband for NAFTA which (rightly!) challenged the power of trade unions. A lot of you will never forgive Bill Clinton for dismantling large parts of the safety net (unemployment benefits etc) that had been in place before him. And, given that this website has focused obsessively on the Iraq war to the near-exclusion of almost anything else, I can very well understand how the purists among you will never forgive Clinton’s vote on authorizing force in Iraq.

    However, I think some mix up is in evidence and some clarifications are in order. First, there is a tendency to lump together Bill Clinton’s record with Hillary’s positions. I think that her agenda on health care, poverty, the rollback of the Bush tax cuts and the environment can withstand even the most careful liberal scrutiny. As all of you know, her first attempt to reform health care was even more liberal than that. Yes she failed at the time but boy do half of you here imply she somehow wished to fail. I think she has learned a lot from that first attempt and I also think that her added political experience from her time in the Senate has become a major asset for her.

    The Iraq vote. I mentioned the word “purists,” above, and I will mention it again. This website has become a home to an unabashed purist movement that seeks to hound anyone who ever voted for the war. I wish to remind you a few things. First and foremost, at the time, the Bush administration managed to make a compelling case for the war. You may not like it, but there was NOT sufficient pushback to refute the “evidence” that was then presented to the country. I understand how you feel — because I feel the same way — but, unfortunately, I cannot think of a single case in human history where a war was stopped by a principled movement on just the basis of “war is bad”. And this is what happened. The administration made its case — it was of course lying — and the media and the public largely bought it. They did, whether you like it or not. So then we found ourselves in the position of a defense attorney who had been outmaneuvered by the prosecution. And, of course, once the war started the “rally round the flag” effect took hold. Hapless idealists, from Lenin and Trotsky to poor president Hoover have forever expected the “court of public opinion” to react with outrage to the very notion of war and by the very power of its reaction, stop it in its tracks. It NEVER happens. To expect otherwise is to dream unwise dreams. And so Hillary voted for the resolution. I listened to her pained explanation at the last debate. And you know what? I believed her. I find it mindboggling that the same crowd here who have embraced John Edwards and swear by his every word has somehow forgiven him his vote but continue to harp about Hillary’s vote. Oh and trust me on this — you DO NOT KNOW how Obama would have voted if he had been in the Senate. Why? Well, it is one thing to be a state senator, it is another thing to be a US Senator.

    I have not met Hillary personally and so do not have the benefit of Markos’ insight. He claims she is a wonderful and warm human being. I believe him. But think of all the slime that has been directed at her over the years. Think if this had been you. Wouldn’t you have become just a tad more guarded, a tad less open, a tad more steely. WEll, she has. And I love her for it. She has been through the wringer and taken it all with a smile. And — not to belittle Obama’s message of hope — but anyone who has been through all that and who can continue to fight for what she believes in IS THE REAL INSPIRATION for me. She is a leader I can follow with trust AND hope.

    These are not all the reasons I support Hillary. There are pettier ones too. I have suffered through the dark ages of the Bush presidency, foisted on us by the republican party. If she is the one they find most unacceptable — I WANT them to have her. I want them to sputter every time they see her speak on TV, I want THEM to reach for the Valium when she pulls the troops from Iraq and ends their pretty war, I want them to weep when she appoints liberal judges to the Supreme Court, and to scream in impotent rage when, at the stroke of a pen she will undo most of the Bush presidency. Most of all, I want them to have her because they so fear and abhor a woman with a career, a woman in power. Nothing like a healthy dose of reality to shatter the bubble they live in. And, so there is no confusion, let me make it clear that I am a white male.

    Finally, a word on Obama. I have mistrusted mass hypes for a long time. Heck, it took me four years to convince myself to start reading Harry Potter. I have the distinct impression that the Obama candidacy has been created and carefully nurtured by the media. I do not necessarily see sinister conspiracies in this — maybe they genuinely like the guy. He seems “likable enough.” I am really astonished how with all the professed mistrust of the media, so many of you have bought the latest story wholesale. Did I find the right metaphor? How’s “have swallowed the hook, lead and sinker…” Well never mind. The truth is Obama is fresh faced, younger and male. And is the less qualified candidate. If Hillary and Obama were applying for a job on the strenths of their resumes she will make the shortlist. He probably won’t. I should know — I do this for a living. But the truth is he is younger, charismatic and male. Did I mention he is male? The media is once again telling us who to vote for. And a lot of you have started to nod in agreement. This is the same media that brought you the “Dean scream” — longer, louder and uncut, who repeatedly told you of Gore’s “exaggerations” and Kerry’s flip flops. We can only hope they don’t have the picture of our latest Dorian Gray stashed somewhere in the attic for later viewing. Well we know how well hope turned out before.

  4. Not sure if this has been posted yet… lol…but I love it!

    Must Read: Newspaper Cited in Obama’s OHIO NAFTA Mailer Calls it “Misleading”
    From Newsday:

    “Obama’s use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading…It’s an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office.”

    To see Senator Obama’s “misleading” mailer:

    Below is the full text of today’s Newsday story:

    NAFTA: Us, Hillary and the “Boon”

    The Democratic campaign has moved in earnest to Ohio, where times are tough and NAFTA has become a dirty word. In an effort to score points, Barack Obama has been dropping a mail-piece (left) that repeats a charge he has made several other times during the campaign — that “Hillary Clinton believed NAFTA was ‘a boon’ to the economy.”

    This attack has attracted a flurry of attention, from Clinton’s campaign and some reporters. As it turns out, the primary source is us. Back in Sept. 2006, an abbreviated chart printed on Newsday’s Spin Cycle page compared Hillary with her Democratic US Senate primary challenger Jonathan Tasini on a variety of issues. The issues chart included this:

    “FREE TRADE JONATHAN TASINI: Tasini favors scrapping the Bill Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it drives down domestic wages.

    HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: Clinton thinks NAFTA has been a boon to the economy, but voted against the Central American-Dominican Republic Free Trade Agreement, saying it would drive jobs offshore.”

    Because it’s raised questions — with Clinton criticizing Obama for making “false claims” in the mail piece — we’ve looked into the chart. In it, we did not have the Clinton campaign using the word “boon” in describing NAFTA. The word was our characterization of how we best understood her position on NAFTA, based on a review of past stories and her public statements.

    Tasini called for scrapping NAFTA in 2006. She did not.

    We do not have a direct quote indicating her campaign told us she thought it was good for the economy at that time. Also, for that matter, Clinton’s campaign did not contact us to question the item after it appeared in print.

    Obama’s use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading. The quote marks make it look as if Hillary said “boon,” not us. It’s an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office. That said, we should have been clearer.

  5. Hi, everyone! I don’t post here so often because the comment section has gotten so large and unwieldy. And congrats to admin for getting it there. You have done a brilliant job of turning this into a must-visit website. And I know from personal experience that you’ve served as the database for many a primary diary.

    I’m going to begin calling for Hillary and do my part for the 1 million calls. Also, I’ve hammered all my friends into donating to Hillary as well. Some of us are pretty broke right about now, but we’re still sending what we can.

    B. Merryfield – I want to say that Rezko Watch is brilliant. Thank you so much for doing it. Just think, you may play a major role in changing the history of the United States. Good work.

    I’m still here every day, just not posting as much. It’s been a rough few weeks, but I’m confident it will all bound to our venture. And Hillary surviving this will be a much stronger candidate.

    Thank you again Admin!

  6. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I love it!!!

    Must Read: Newspaper Cited in Obama’s OHIO NAFTA Mailer Calls it “Misleading”
    From Newsday:

    “Obama’s use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading…It’s an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office.”

    To see Senator Obama’s “misleading” mailer:

    Below is the full text of today’s Newsday story:

    NAFTA: Us, Hillary and the “Boon”

    The Democratic campaign has moved in earnest to Ohio, where times are tough and NAFTA has become a dirty word. In an effort to score points, Barack Obama has been dropping a mail-piece (left) that repeats a charge he has made several other times during the campaign — that “Hillary Clinton believed NAFTA was ‘a boon’ to the economy.”

    This attack has attracted a flurry of attention, from Clinton’s campaign and some reporters. As it turns out, the primary source is us. Back in Sept. 2006, an abbreviated chart printed on Newsday’s Spin Cycle page compared Hillary with her Democratic US Senate primary challenger Jonathan Tasini on a variety of issues. The issues chart included this:

    “FREE TRADE JONATHAN TASINI: Tasini favors scrapping the Bill Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it drives down domestic wages.

    HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: Clinton thinks NAFTA has been a boon to the economy, but voted against the Central American-Dominican Republic Free Trade Agreement, saying it would drive jobs offshore.”

    Because it’s raised questions — with Clinton criticizing Obama for making “false claims” in the mail piece — we’ve looked into the chart. In it, we did not have the Clinton campaign using the word “boon” in describing NAFTA. The word was our characterization of how we best understood her position on NAFTA, based on a review of past stories and her public statements.

    Tasini called for scrapping NAFTA in 2006. She did not.

    We do not have a direct quote indicating her campaign told us she thought it was good for the economy at that time. Also, for that matter, Clinton’s campaign did not contact us to question the item after it appeared in print.

    Obama’s use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading. The quote marks make it look as if Hillary said “boon,” not us. It’s an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office. That said, we should have been clearer.

    It’s from Hillary’s site. hillaryclinton/news/relesea/view/?id=5994

  7. Michael Medved ( one of the more restrained right wing talk show host out of Seattle) is calling Obama a phony.

    He is saying that this story is breaking about the same pattern of women fainting at Obama’s rallies with the same comments from him and from one woman i.e
    Woman faints
    obama says, make way so she can be helped, do you need a water bottle
    another woman – screams’ what a man’

    He said that a WSJ journalist, a Canadian journalist and one of his co-radio friends in Seattle have chronicled this happening at least 4 times.

    He is saying that the woman is a plant and Obama a phony.

    He says that Obama answers the same way when these woman faint- he said that this should be the story line coming up to the WI primary next week. He also said that these women are plants and this is an incredibly embarrasing thing for Obama.

    A supporter of Obama called in- Medved sai that his style is phony if it is based on these events.

    He’s going on that America doesn’t like a shyster. He’s watching a video montage of all 4 of the events and saying that it is the same thing playing over and over,
    someone faints,
    he asks them to make way
    throws a water bottle
    a lady shots, ‘what a man’
    summons the paramedics

    I could have sworn that I saw someone write about this either on this sight or TM this week or last week. What do you guys thing?
    I can tell you that I’ve listend to right wing radio all week and all through the primaries and this week, it’s all Obama, Obama with nary a word about Hillary.

    It’ all hope and change that Obama is spewing but no substance. They’re ripped apart his speeches and laughted at , ‘we are the ones we have been waiting for’ and now this.

    Hmmm… The Repub machine has awakened.

  8. The whole “Obama has the upper hand on the Iraq vote vs. John McCain” thing is soooo easily torn apart by anyone who’s paying attention:

    1) He wasn’t IN The Senate

    2) He’s on record saying he doesn’t know how he would have voted for the war if he WAS in the Senate, and has even gone further:

    RUSSERT: You were not in the Senate in October of 2002. You did give a speech opposing the war. But Sen. Clinton’s campaign will say since you’ve been a senator there’s been no difference in your record. And other critics will say that you’ve not been a leader against the war, and they point to this: In July of ’04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war. And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of ’04. And this: “I think” there’s “some room for disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war.” It doesn’t seem that you are firmly wedded against the war, and that you left some wiggle room that, if you had been in the Senate, you may have voted for it.


    1. Massive phone banking party tonight from 5:30 to 9:00 pm. We are all bringing our cell phones and are going to rock Texas for our gal! 🙂

    2. Volunteer meeting/caucus training Saturday morning with none other than DOLORES HUERTA, who will be here helping get out the vote for Hillary! We’re going to fan out and canvass neighborhoods, go door knocking. Woot!

    3. More of the same on Sunday, this time with AMERICA FERRERA. More door-to-door, face-to-face with voters, keeping it real one household at a time. We are MOVING, folks, and San Antonio LOVES Hillary!

    I’m off shortly to pick up some people to go to the phone-bank party who needed transportation. 😀

  10. BTW, I’m writing in reference to the linfar article above. Speaking of DKos, I’ve sworn off that place because of the nutjobbery and Obama cultism nurtured for Markos’ naked political ambitions. If only Markos weren’t wrong so much!

  11. Oh man…I want to know more about the fake fainting! LMAO!!

    So….the antichrist is also alot like Ernest Angely with his fake healings? Lord, this just gets better and better and better. 😆


    Still afraid to debate Clinton in Wisconsin. Guess he’s fearful he could scuttle his lead if he has to explain where he stands on the issues.

    Clinton hits him hard in this ad, especially on health care. But people shouldn’t forget Obama’s weakness on Social Security. Paul Krugman said it best back in November:

    Why, Barack, why?

    The great Social Security debate of 2005 was a seminal moment for American progressives. Conventional fiscal wisdom in the Beltway was that the aging population is THE big problem — when the truth is that grim long-run fiscal projections mainly reflect projected health care costs. And conventional political wisdom was that the Bush administration’s fear-mongering on the issue would work.
    But a determined defense by progressives in the media, on the blogs, and in Congress beat back one spurious argument after another, while the American people made it clear that they really want a program that guarantees a basic retirement income that doesn’t depend on the Dow. And Social Security survived.

    All of which makes it just incredible that Barack Obama would make obeisance to fashionable but misguided Social Security crisis-mongering a centerpiece of his campaign. It’s a bad omen … .

    Obama’s voted “present,” ducked votes, including ducking out on the debate in the Senate. Look what happened as a result: he got MoveOn’s endorsement. No consequences, baby, so he has no intention of changing now.

    Oh, and by the way, wingnut radio has started in on Obama. Hannity’s “Man on the Street” did something very simple, following up on the Frank Luntz focus group tactic. Hannity simply asks people being interviewed to name one accomplishment of Barack Obama. Then he asks: Shouldn’t someone running to be the President of the United States have more experience and at least some achievement to his name? Most of the people interviewed were for Obama, and to a person they all answered “yes.” This is just the lighter side of what we’ll face, but it just might be the most effective tool they’ve got. McCain is a very weak campaigner, but his biography is simply unimpeachable. The negative ads against Obama will be a breeze and we haven’t even gotten into Obama’s record. They’ll cream him on guns alone. Obama’s record will do all the talking.

    “Do you support state legislation to … ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns?” asked one of the three dozen questions.

    “Yes,” was Obama’s entire answer. … ..

  13. Is Hillary Due for a Comeback?
    February 15, 2008 02:23 PM ET | Michael Barone | Permanent Link

    There has been some scoffing at Clinton pollster Mark Penn’s memo issued yesterday arguing that Hillary Clinton can still win more delegates than Barack Obama. The memo contains a certain amount of campaign boilerplate:

    Hillary is the only candidate who can deliver the economic change voters want—the only candidate with a real plan and a record of fighting for health care, housing, job creation and protecting Social Security.

    But, hey, he’s paid (and very well) to say things like this. And there’s independent polling data that seem to support his argument.

    Start with Pennsylvania, which votes April 22. Quinnipiac today released a poll showing Clinton leading Obama there 52 to 36 percent. Whites back Clinton 58 to 31; blacks back Obama 71 to 10. Since Pennsylvania’s population is only 10 percent black, that accounts for Clinton’s big lead.

    Then look at Ohio, which votes March 4. Here Quinnipiac shows Clinton ahead 55 to 34 percent. Whites back Clinton 64 to 28; blacks back Obama 64 to 17. Ohio’s population is 11 percent black. Quinnipiac’s Peter Brown (whom veterans of the campaign trail will remember as a first-rate reporter) explains why Clinton seems to be doing so well in Ohio (and, by implication, demographically similar Pennsylvania) after losing eight straight contests:

    Ohio is as good a demographic fit for Sen. Clinton as she will find. It is blue-collar America, with a smaller percentage of both Democrats with college educations and African-Americans than in many other states where Sen. Obama has carried the day. If Clinton can’t win the primary there, it is very difficult to see how she stops Obama.

    Quinnipiac’s result is similar to two other recent Ohio polls. Rasmussen has Clinton ahead 51 to 37 percent; SurveyUSA has her ahead 56 to 39 percent. The only Ohio poll taken in January, by the Columbus Dispatch, showed Clinton ahead of Obama 42 to 19 percent. Obama has apparently made gains since then. But so has Clinton.

    In the other big state that votes March 4, Texas, it seems that there has been no public poll since last April(!). Texas’s population is 12 percent black and 32 percent Hispanic, so we can expect the Democratic primary electorate there to be about 20 percent black and perhaps 15 to 20 percent Hispanic.

    One primary Penn did not stress in his memo was Wisconsin. The Clinton campaign line has been that the post-Super Tuesday February contests are all dismal ground for their candidates. But the Wisconsin polling data tell a different story. Scott Rasmussen shows Obama leading Clinton by only 47 to 43 percent. This is similar to Strategic Vision’s Wisconsin survey, which shows Obama ahead 45 to 41 percent. Wisconsin’s population is 6 percent black and 3 percent Hispanic.

    How can Clinton be doing so much better here than she did in Maryland and Virginia? One reason is that there are smaller percentages of black voters in these states. Another, probably more important, reason is that the white Democratic primary voters are different. In Maryland and Virginia, they tended to be quite upscale and on the young side, especially in the big suburban counties outside Washington, D.C. In Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, they’re much more downscale. At a time when Clinton and Obama are essentially tied in national polls, it stands to reason that if Obama is ahead in states like Maryland and Virginia, Clinton will be ahead in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

    Texas is another, interesting story. Texas doesn’t have party registration, and, historically, huge numbers of white voters participated in the state’s Democratic presidential primary—1.3 million in 1980, 1.8 million in 1988, 1.5 million in 1992. That number plunged downward to 786,000 in 2000 and 839,000 in 2004, even though the state’s population grew from 14 million in 1980 to 22 million in 2004. The obvious conclusion: An awful lot of white Texans began voting in the Republican primary again. This year’s Texas Democratic primary could turn out to be largely a battle of minorities, with blacks voting heavily for Obama and Latinos, as in most other states so far, heavily for Clinton. In this battle Obama will undoubtedly have an organizational advantage, both because his campaign— unlike hers— has done organizational work in the post-Super Tuesday states and because of the strength of pre-existing black turnout organizations. As for white Democratic primary voters, upscale Texans still tend to be heavily Republican, though a little less so than 15 or 20 years ago—very much contrary to the pattern in Northern Virginia and Montgomery County, Md. White downscale voters in southern states have generally gone for Clinton, but not by overwhelming margins. Of the four states we’ve looked at here, Texas appears the most problematic for Clinton, though she’s on far stronger ground there than in the already concluded post-Super Tuesday contests.

  14. “Yes,” was Obama’s entire answer. … ..

    Alot like his response to the MS patient who asked him if, as president , he would support raids on sick people who smoked marijuana for medical reasons. Bambi turns to aid behind him, has info whispered in his ear for wuite a while, then turns to the MS patient and says, “No. I wouldn’t arrest them.”

    Wait? That’s it? No explaination about WHY you wouldn’t? No statement about needing more research into the benfit of medical marijuana?


  15. the guns position will play in TX, WI….they do like their guns there…..however, in a dem primary…this may not be a big factor. in the GE…it will sway some voters.

  16. i have to say – I LOVE America Ferrera – saw her appearance on Larry King and she was flanked by two Obama supporters, John Legend and Will.I.Am who made that Yes We Can video, and she was so articulate and smart, and talked about policies – amazing. She blew the others away.

  17. DEMOCRACY FOR AMERICA is smoking crack. I unsubscribed after receiving an email from them to sign this petition on their website:

    The funny part of the email which is an outright lie. They call Donna Brazille a Hillary Clinton supporter. What fucking planet do these morons live on:

    Even some super-delegates are listening. Here’s what Hillary Clinton supporter and super-delegate Donna Brazille said on CNN:

    “Our role is to help build the party not to decide elections… as a super delegate, I believe (my) vote belongs to the American people. Therefore I will withhold committing to either candidate until the voters decide.”

  18. i like America Ferrera too! She’s not just one of these celebs that just spout out at the mouth re: a candidate. I think she really looked at the positions…did her research and….of course 🙂 is now backing the right candidate.

  19. I appreciate your effort but would like to suggest you fact-check the following claims VERY CAREFULLY: never forgive her husband for NAFTA which (rightly!) challenged the power of trade unions. A lot of you will never forgive Bill Clinton for dismantling large parts of the safety net (unemployment benefits etc) that had been in place before him. Beware of granting Leftkook talking points which may not be true, or not altogether true.

    Here’s what I’d like to say to Blue Moon:

    Remember also that Bill Clinton only had a Dem congress from 1992-1994. After that it was increasingly GOP till finally in 1998 they had enough power to impeach him. So almost everything he signed into law had to be some sort of compromise. So it’s not fair to compare Bill’s results with the Leftkook ideals — we should compare them with what the GOP would have produced without Bill’s fight to moderate them.

    As to NAFTA vs unions, what Hillary wanted (and Bill too I’m sure) was for the trade agreements to already include many of the pro-labor standards that had to be fought for by unions here.

  20. Donna Brazille a HRC supporter!?!?! HAH! (chris matthews laugh)

    R they f***in’ retarded!?!?!?!?

    She is so pro-obama I am surprised she hasn’t announced that she is leaving the DNC to join his campaign. She is rediculously obvious about being a Hillary-hater.

  21. Sorry, my line about what I’d like to say to Blue Moon should have been at the TOP of my post; it was ALL directed to Blue Moon, who wrote the diary, not to the person who quoted it here.

  22. If anyone has contact information for out-of-state volunteers in Texas, Wisconsin and other upcoming primary states please send them to us at admin AT

    Any information on accomodations for out of state volunteers, phone numbers or email or information of that type would be appreciated. We have the Ohio information and would like to do a post tomorrow for those wishing to travel to help on the ground in the upcoming primaries.


  23. We have to get to the phones, people!

    This was posted by a UCLA student on Hillary’s facebook page, who has been making phone calls today for Hillary:

    “So i talked to this lady in Wisconsin today.

    Basically, she was COMPLETELY misinformed about Hillary’s health care coverage plan and thought OBAMA was the one with universal. I set her straight and she was saying how one oher local congressmen held a rally for Obama and essentially lied to them and she would tell all of her friends what she just learned.

    She was really upset because she was informed that he had universal health care and that hilary wanted single-payer converage only mandated towards KIDS. Man oh man, thank god we are calling people and letting them know about these kinds of things.

  24. LMAO! Isn’t it about time for Obama and his robots to start whining…no fair…

    I’m so glad that at least some of the media is getting “it” finally!

  25. TriMT….good gosh…just like HRC’s economic plan….Barack is now using her healthcare plan to woo voters. This guy is a sham.

  26. Yep, I’ll be back on the phones this evening. Everyone, please dedicate as much time as you can to this effort over the next 2 weeks.

  27. As i said earlier, Obama would still have to make it to late August and confirmed, i bet he gets hung by this way before then!

  28. Someone has posted the information of how to make calls for Hillary on dkos and on mydd. I am very, very concerned that if safeguards are not in place, the people on the call list will get anti-hillary calls. Can someone find out what safeguards are in place? Not what they are because someone might try to hack them. But if there are adequate safeguards?

  29. One quibble w/ the barone article- there have been recent polls out of TX with Hill leading. Other than than its nice to see a beltway journalist look at this race with facts instead of the BO hype. And of course Barone is a republican/conservative anaylyst with Fox News.

  30. “Someone has posted the information of how to make calls for Hillary on dkos and on mydd. I am very, very concerned that if safeguards are not in place, the people on the call list will get anti-hillary calls. Can someone find out what safeguards are in place? Not what they are because someone might try to hack them. But if there are adequate safeguards?”

    I am very concerned too and have sent a few messages on this board. For what they are doing at, there is no way to verify whether you are a real Hillary support or BObot. It’s an honor system and definitely could be misused by bad people such as BObots.

  31. I’m sure the campaign will think of this, but one security measure on our phone bank would be to limit it to people who have donated.

    I know this would leave out some good phone people, so it may not be worth it. I guess that would depend on how easy it is for the bad guys to get those numbers elsewhere.

  32. Obama said something today about “when Hillary feels down”. WTF? And, it’s not the first time. He makes these little sexist comments all the time. How can some woemn ignore this?

  33. and…I love how he swiped the “Yes we can” tag line from the Latinos “Si se puede” and the latinos vote hillary : )

  34. 1950democrat

    Limiting it to donors would not work. I am sure many Obama fanatics would gladly donate $10 to be able to make calls and distrupt Hillary’s campaign.

  35. I am trying to figure out if HRC campaign can do a “sampling” of the people called and see how they contact from our phone banking is….just a sort of “follow up” so to speak.

    They could follow up with the lists of the last week and see exactly what kind of feedback they get.

    If indeed it is being abused by the Obamabots we will know…

    I also understand that this system is absolutely checkable…via cellphone and landline.

    Patriot Act is at least good for something wink, wink,

  36. Nancy Pelosi is selling out to Obama. From the Page:

    I thought Pelosi and Clinton were friends. I don’t actually know much about her. But this is aweful

    1)Says she doesn’t want superdelegates to make a “counter-decision” against the will of the voters.

    2)Also suggests Michigan, Florida delegates should not be seated in Denver.

    3)Apparently for first time, Pelosi puts finger on Obama side of the scale on key issues.

    The Page, 5:06 PM

  37. ChicagoGal,

    “soon obama’s people are going to sell flowers in the airports” hahaha…

    sigh…that’s a scary thought.

  38. If this is true, it’s par for the course with Pelosi. She could have done so much in her position but to date has really failed to make any impact at all.

  39. SEIU endorsed BO. In the same story, the nyt is sticking to lewis casting his vote for BO. Of course, all BO supporters are pushing real hard to have the voters do it for them.

    With John Lewis, the Democratic Congressman from Georgia and former civil rights leader, indicating on Thursday that he intends to cast his vote as a superdelegate for Mr. Obama, the S.E.I.U.’s endorsement is expected to further build momentum for Mr. Obama after his wins in eight consecutive contests.

  40. I’m not surprised voters are confused about which plan includes universal coverage. Obama’s been lying about his plan for months; Hillary and her campaign calls him on it repeatedly, but since the media ignores them, the public fails to hear the truth.

    As for Edwards: The ABC article from a few days ago said if he were going to endorse, it would be before March 4. There’s still time.

  41. mj: We Hillary supporter have no voice with the Party elite. They are completely ignoring us.

    Well, right. You have to organize. That’s what the BO ppl do. I suspect by the time ppl get po’d enough about being shut out of blogs, the media or watching the lies spewed by interest groups, it’ll be too late.

  42. admin – also sent you info re: volunteering in TX – this is a west coast contact, probably organizing more for west coast people interested in volunteering.

  43. You know what I really like? Birds. Birds could give a rats ass about bitches like McCaskill, Shriver, Pelosi , Oprah. Birds could care less about lofty empty speeches and political smoozing. Birds just go about their business, day after day, looking beautiful and getting the jobs done that they need to get done.

    Oh, how I love to watch birds.

  44. I still say the endorsement by Edwards will show his true colors. That is why IMO he is having trouble. The “real” man who has worked for poverty and little man tells him to go with Clinton. The “head” man tells him to join the boys club. Not all men are like this but it’s obvious men are afraid of Hillary…the reality that a woman is actually that smart and they know deep in their heart that she is right for the country. Many just can’t use the right “head”. And by the way Putin…your real “soul” showed today in your remarks…eat dodo.

  45. So, if Hillary wins the most votes in this election, the super delegates should endorse her, right? I assume that’s what Pelosi means by “the will of the voters.”

    OK, I’m really confused about John Lewis. Did he switch or not?

  46. Question:

    The SEIU endorsement…could it go the same way as what happened in Nevada? Even if the biggies endorse, their union members don’t necessarily fall in line?

  47. I think Obama people are calling our numbers and inserting his name…that is why people are getting confused. If this can be proved and really quickly. Sting operation is due but how would we do it?

  48. Union endorsements really are just good for the news cycle. Hubby was union, whole family is union…it don’t mean jack for the higher ups tell you to do. MOF some rank and file say “up yours” to the union leaders cause most of the leaders are in the company back pocket after it is all said and done.

    It might mean some help with organizing cause some sheep will do exactly as told.

    If he thinks these will hand him Ohio and Texas…wrong time in history to be depending on this.

    IMO that is, being from union household.

  49. BO’s speech pattern:


    BO: “…..Future…Hope…Change…Change…”
    BObots: “Yes We Can”
    Obama: “… That is not true … Change…Change…At this moments, we see
    big changes…”

    BObots: “We Will Change”

    Repeat the above 5-8 times

    BO: “… Change we believe in”

    BObots: “Yeah”

    End of speech

  50. Paula,

    As best I can tell, Lewis has feigned towards switching.
    That’s why you have the two most prominent newspapers in the country with contradictory stories.
    Looks like Lewis fed the NYT the “I’m switching” story, which includes a complimentary quote towards BO but no out-and-out statement of switching, then gave WaPo, who quoted his staff, an indirect “That’s not accurate” when trying to confirm the Times piece.

    How does a prominent member of Congress delicately try to signal a potential change of support – while keeping his options open?
    I think we just saw it…

  51. ok. Might as well sound off. I can’t make calls because I don’t have long distance–I use a card and it is tooo hard that way. I’ve also written diaries until my fingers are sore, but I’m wondering today who on earth they are reaching. I have sent money, emailed every one about everything. Lol. And I want to do more, justg don’t know how. Wouldyou believe that I had just sent Pelosi emails not to do what she did. I emailed Abrams and said I cried when I saw the clip of him talking about the media insantity when it comes to Hill. I used to be a news reporter with the AP. We lost a lot under Reagan when they got rid of fairness in coverage being manadated. I believe the rightwing is going to steal this electiion Again. They are doing it as we speak by ‘dem for a day’ handouts and rigthtwing endorsements: Kristol, The Weekly Standard, George Will. Did you know 40 percent of those who voted for Obama in Iowa were Republican? They are backing him in “our” primaries to get the one they can beat. I am not being negative. Please don’t lash out at me. I just sometimes hit a wall. And I need to say how unfair it all is–sorftof get it off my chest. We are waging an uphill battle and it is so fucking unfair. Thanks for listening.

  52. “and…I love how he swiped the “Yes we can” tag line from the Latinos “Si se puede” and the latinos vote hillary : )” says Chicago Gal

    Yeah, he took that from the farm workers, which we have the support of, including the cofounders, and the founder’s family. Yuck. That is an insult to Latinos.

  53. I think you’re going to see a lot of Dem leaders agree with the idea of not seating FL and MI because they want to get this campaign over with. They’re anxious to pick a nominee to face McCain, and if they screw the voters in those two states and Hillary in the process, so be it.

    And when Obama gets obliterated by the GOP come November, I don’t want to hear a peep out of them. They were warned what was coming, and they had their heads up their asses, as usual.

    And does anyone really think we’ll win FL in November after this, if Obama’s the nominee? Give me a friggin’ break.

  54. linfar,

    you dont need long distance to make calls. You dial the number toll free and the system call your phone when you make a connection.

    how’s that for a constructive solution to what’s bringing you down?

  55. Did you know 40 percent of those who voted for Obama in Iowa were Republican? They are backing him in “our” primaries to get the one they can beat.

    Exactly, and the Dem establishment is too damn stupid to see that.

    BTW, thanks for the explanation, Blue Dem. What you say makes sense.

  56. Ronald, are you serious??? I didn’t see how to dial the number toll free. Are you sure. But if this is true I am gonna make some calls 🙂 whoohoo

  57. Pelosi needs to get her head out of her ass. She says the FL and MI delegations should not be seated if they will decide the nomination. If they are seated, the delegates required to win the nomination will rise to to over 2200 and it is highly unlikely that either candidate could win the nomination without the superdelegates anyway.

  58. I will switch my affiliation to independent and will NEVER give to the DNC ever again. They are running a circus up there, much like the Chicago Circus b.o. is running. Ugh. They had better seat these delegates. I cannot vote for barack obama. I just cannot. On all of my core issues, I have heard and seen nothing from him. He is non-existent in the Latino community. In GLBT affairs, the only thing good he has done is vote against the FMA, but otherwise, Donnie McClurkin, he refuses to have cameras when he goes to a glbt event with Gavin Newsom (prior to when Newsom endorsed HRC), he says glbt rights are not civil rights (coming from a supposed civil rights lawyer that only tried 1 case himself). I can’t believe him. NO WAY JOSE (my dad is Jose lol 😉 )

  59. The big silver lining in all this: Hillary can run against McCain in 2012. She won’t be that old, and I bet McCain will be a one-termer because of his age.

  60. what can we do to start a grass roots organization on the ground in Florida that will let the Florida voters know that their votes are for nothing if they are not seated at the convention.

    I know Hillary needs gotv now in all states but what about a “we already voted” canvassing with petitions etc in Florida.

    I tell you I don’t want to place blame…but saying.

  61. Just talked to a strong Hillary supporter in Wassau, WI. She really wants to see Hillary in person. Anybody know if there’s going to be anything going on around there this weekend?

  62. “Pelosi: 1)Says she doesn’t want superdelegates to make a “counter-decision” against the will of the voters.”

    Who are “the voters”? Republicans or Democratics? I really can’t believe how dumb these people are to even believe those independent or Republicans would vote for Democratics in GE. And those f*ing caucuses.

    Can’t stand DNC anymore. Will definitely vote for McCain if BO is on the ticket. Again, we really need to be heard that LOTS of Hillary’s supporters will not vote for BO in GE, period.

  63. He is the biggest pussy, excuse my language. Someone pointed this out here before, if he can’t stand up and debate HRC, how is he going to stand up to the Ayatollah, al-Qaeda, Chavez, Castro, etc., etc. ? Let alone stand up and debate McCain.

  64. Can we start a petition or some sort that IF Hillary did not get the nomination, we will NOT vote for BO? If we can collect a lot of signatures, that might mean something.

  65. I don’t think she’ll be near Wausau…she’s in Milwaukee tomorrow night…but I think that’s a closed “Founders Dinner”

  66. Paula Says:

    February 15th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
    The big silver lining in all this: Hillary can run against McCain in 2012. She won’t be that old, and I bet McCain will be a one-termer because of his age.

    What the hell are you talking about?!

  67. jubjub,

    Yes. It would mean that Obama has once again lied that he can get her votes but she can’t get his.

    I think a petition is a great idea.

  68. linfar,

    It looks like they have changed the system around. It used to have a toll free number to call. You could try calling the campaign to see how to do it. If there is a campaign office near you, you can also go there and make calls with their phones…

    I will look into this further.

  69. “JanH Says:

    Yes. It would mean that Obama has once again lied that he can get her votes but she can’t get his.

    I think a petition is a great idea.”

    JanH, so what do we need to do? If we can collect a lot of signatures, we may get some attention from the media. Anybody has idea how to do this?

  70. The DNC better get a clue. I live in Palm Beach County, ground zero for historic democratic losses.

    I will never vote for Obama unless the ticket is preceded by “Clinton.”

    The Democrats are throwing Florida away. My mother is an independently registered wage worker in an office of other women. They will all vote for Hillary, but won’t support Obama for various logical and illogical reasons. Whatever the reasons, however, he’s not getting their votes, period.

  71. I think reed has also sent instrutions via the old system.
    I just can’t see how to do it. Sigh.
    On subject of petition, not sure its a good idea.
    More like a poll would be better. Then you get the point across without idea of bashing party unity.

  72. I agree Linfar, we will need obamabots when we win the nomination. I know I will not vote for him, my Latino brothers and sisters won’t, independent women will not, and if we nominate him, I will throw a party for us all to roast proverbial marshmallows over his crashed and burnt campaign.

  73. linfar, I understand your concerns about petition, but the fact is, IF BO got the nomination, there would be NO party unity. He is just this big lier making these claims that he would get Hillary’s voters. Almost all my friends will never vote for him.

  74. jubjub,

    I wish I could help but I’m pretty hopeless and this computer stuff…sigh…

    Hopefully someone else knows how to start a petition…a grassroots petition to tie Obama up in knots.

  75. kaffeen. I don’t get an email. I am just moved along on the website until I go to the numbers to call. I made a lot of calls in Califonria primary because then they just gave me callers in my area code.

  76. This may have been posted already but at the link below there are 5 video links to the “Obama Fainters” – it’s hilarious – same MO each time. Lots of people seem to be buzzing about it. I’m sure none of us would be surprised to learn that Golden Boy traffics in cynical theatrics and staged interactions – but it would be nice if the MSM took note…

  77. Woohoo, going to see the Big Dog!

    Join President Clinton for an office opening at our Texas headquarters in Austin! Come at 8:00 PM and volunteer in our office and stay to hear President Clinton at 9:00 PM.

  78. Obama can talk the talk, but for walking the walk, I haven’t seen him do that as of yet. If he wins the Democratic nomination, I’m voting Republican.

    I’m getting sick and tired of him saying how these Presidential Candidates that have been Senators since he was a mere child, would make great “advisors” for him. Pffft. How arrogant and disrespectful.

  79. Keep up the good work with posting RW’s link on forums and blogs. The site visits are exploding. Of course, the TIME/RealClearPolitics link plus Big Pink’s link has things all going jiggy now!

  80. Excellent post, Admin! I’m calling WI now and all weekend.

    I sure hope Rezko, wrong buttons, present votes, plagarism, flip-flopping, Rev. Wright’s church and the rest will finally become known to the remaining primary voters/caucus goers.

    Hawk: I am an independent woman and I can promise you I will NEVER vote for the arrogant, mysogynist BHO.

    On a lighter note: Here’s a new blog, taking on Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn, in a perpetual fainting swoon over BO. Please contribute (and get him a bottle of water).

  81. Congressman Cleaver is on NPR saying that members of congress have been threatened by BOs people. If they dont switch to BO they will have someone running against them supported by BOs people in the next election.

  82. Pakistan Criticizes Obama on Comments

    Friday, August 03, 2007
    Associated Press

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan criticized U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday for saying that, if elected, he might order military strikes against terrorists hiding in this Islamic country.

    Top Pakistan officials said Obama’s comment was irresponsible and likely made for political gain in the race for the Democratic nomination.

    “It’s a very irresponsible statement, that’s all I can say,” Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khusheed Kasuri told AP Television News. “As the election campaign in America is heating up we would not like American candidates to fight their elections and contest elections at our expense.”

    Another presidential hopeful, Colorado Republican Tom Tancredo, also came under criticism Friday by a Pakistani official after saying that the best way to deter a nuclear terrorist attack on the United States would be to threaten to retaliate by bombing the holiest Islamic sites of Mecca and Medina.

    Tancredo spoke at a town hall meeting in Osceola, Iowa on Tuesday.

    In Washington, the State Department disavowed Tancredo’s remarks, which some diplomats fear could damage U.S. ties with the Muslim world and hurt efforts to counter Islamist extremism.

    “It is absolutely outrageous and reprehensible for anyone to suggest attacks on holy sites, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Jewish or those of any other religion,” deputy spokesman Tom Casey told reporters, adding that the comments were “absolutely crazy.”

    In Pakistan’s national assembly on Friday, Minister for Parliamentary Affairs Sher Afgan said he would open debate next week on recent American criticism of Pakistan, including Tancredo’s remarks.

    In a speech Wednesday, Obama said as president he would order military action against terrorists in Pakistan’s tribal region bordering Afghanistan if intelligence warranted it. Many analysts believe that top Taliban and al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, are hiding in the region after escaping the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.

    President Gen. Pervez Musharraf has come under growing pressure from Washington to do more to tackle the alleged al-Qaida havens in Pakistan. The Bush administration has not ruled out military strikes, but still stresses the importance of cooperating with Pakistan.

    “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again,” Obama said. “If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will.”

    Pakistan’s state-run news agency reported Friday that Musharraf, asked about the possibility of U.S. military operations in Pakistan, said the country was “fully capable” of tackling terrorists in the country and did not need foreign assistance.

    Pakistan used to be a main backer of the Taliban, but it threw its support behind Washington following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. Since then, Pakistan has deployed about 90,000 troops in its tribal regions, mostly in lawless North and South Waziristan, and has lost hundreds of troops in fighting with militants there.

    On Friday, 1,000 tribesmen rallied in Miran Shah, the main town in North Waziristan tribal area, condemning recent military operations and chanting slogans against the United States.

    “We will teach a lesson to America if it attacks us,” local cleric Maulvi Mohammed Roman told the rally.


    Clyburn: Superdelegates should keep quiet on candidate support
    By MEG KINNARD – Associated Press Writer

    COLUMBIA, S.C. –House Majority Leader Jim Clyburn said Friday some of his fellow Democratic Party superdelegates have been too quick to endorse presidential candidates and said he disagrees with those who base their support on election and caucus results.

    “We’re supposed to be unpledged delegates,” Clyburn said during a discussion with reporters. “We are not supposed to be pledged.”

    Clyburn has not said which Democrat he supports for the White House. He is one of the party’s superdelegates – the people who are not assigned to a candidate based on primary or caucus success, unlike normal delegates.

    Clyburn, the third highest-ranking Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives, said he thinks superdelegates should wait to announce their support for candidates until closer to the nominating convention. He said the historical role of a superdelegate is in part to be ready to act in case of an emergency, like to throw support behind a runner-up in case a front-runner cannot continue after the convention.

    “We’re supposed to be playing the role of being there as a safety valve, if something were to go wrong,” Clyburn said. “They are there to make whatever midcourse correction needs to be made, and that’s the role that we’re supposed to play.”

    As of Thursday, the overall delegate count stood at 1,276 for Barack Obama and 1,220 for Hillary Rodham Clinton, though she leads in superdelegate support.

    While Clyburn said he’d prefer superdelegates not announce their support until much later in the nominating process, he said he also doesn’t agree with superdelegates shifting support from one candidate to another based on how their constituents vote in a primary or caucus.

    He addressed the issue several days after a former Clinton supporter announced his intent to vote for Obama at the Democratic National Convention. Georgia Rep. David Scott said he felt compelled to change his allegiance after more than 80 percent of his district voted for the Illinois senator in the Feb. 5 Georgia primary.

    Clyburn said superdelegates are not in place simply to mirror the popular vote. “I don’t think people are really thinking through what they’re saying,” he said.

    It takes 2,025 to clinch the nomination – a number Clyburn said Friday he didn’t think either candidate will be able to reach before the convention. The August convention in Denver is where the superdelegates will have their say, he said.

    “Nobody is going to have 2,000 votes when this is over,” Clyburn said. “The superdelegates are there to provide the rest of those votes. That’s why we were supposed to be unpledged.”

  84. Jan, there are free services online. Just google “online petition” then plug in your info and hit enter. It’s that easy. Like setting up a blog but waaaay easier. Takes about 5-10 mins.

    Now this:

    # Idunn Says:
    February 15th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Right now, I’m going to get off here and go do as the birds do. 🙂

    You mean, shit on my car?!? I was thinking those pigeons were getting kinda big. Or that it was 👿 swooping in during the day on his vampire wings to mess with my head.

  85. “BO’s people?” This is Howard Dean, run amok. BO’s people are none other than the DFA, previously known as “Deaniacs.” They were redeployed unsuccessfully to Kerry and now are deeded to BO. Shame on Howard Dean, for bringing this on the party! HIS days are numbered!

  86. Hi hillfans, let talk less voting Republicans in case that republicans who monitor this site organize cross-over republicans to vote in democrat primary. let work hard to win WI, TX and OH.

  87. Larry Johnson has a donate to Hillary link on his blog,, and has a piece up attacking the Daily Kos (or as he called it “F*** Kos). lol.

  88. B-Merry, you rock! Did I ever tell you you’re my hero? You’re everything, everything I wish I could be…. 😆

  89. hawk, I saw larry’s piece. It’s hysterical and right on. Markos does seem to have some political ambition. I wonder if it includes presidential kneepads of his very own? ;D

  90. Well, it’s a comforting thought if the worst happens.

    Paula Says: Hillary can run against McCain in 2012. She won’t be that old, and I bet McCain will be a one-termer because of his age.

    I’d hate to see another 4 years of GOP, but hopefully it would destroy Obama so Hillary wouldn’t have to fight such sneaky Democratic dirty tricks in 2012!

  91. “# Ronald Says:

    Congressman Cleaver is on NPR saying that members of congress have been threatened by BOs people. If they dont switch to BO they will have someone running against them supported by BOs people in the next election.

    BO is a thug! Don’t they see it!!!!!!

  92. “Run someone against them?” Well, BO endorsed Dorothy “the hat” Tillman for Chicago 3rd ward alderman against my friend and reformer Pat Dowell. Tillman has spent most of the last ten years ranting about reparations, and almost no time serving her ward. Pat Dowell cleaned her clock.

  93. I just wanted to share a few thoughts on some subtle shifts taking place in Obama’s coverage in the media (print, news magazines, and yes TV). I have been reading various blogs, newspaper reports and columns posted over the past week about Obama’s rhetoric and campaigning style.

    The media narrative so far has been that Obama is the “hip and cool and inspiring” candidate. Hillary, according to them, is the “uncool and boring” candidate. This is what drives the uninformed youth support to Obama. They want to be with “cool” and avoid “boring.” Those of us who have teenage kids, cousins, nephews, and friends understand this. None of them know anything about what he is going to do. It is just that they have heard he is “inspiring” and he wants to bring everyone together. Who could be against bringing people together? This is why the elite (and effete if I may add) liberals are also supporting Obama. They are rich and they don’t care about specifics. As Hillary said yesterday speeches don’t put food on the table. But, these wealthy liberals are not worrying about food on the table, gas for their SUVs, or health insurance for their kids. They have it all.

    In the last week, the narrative has begun to shift. Now, various commentators, columnists, and talk show hosts are beginning to mock the “hope” and “change” and “future” rhetoric. They are beginning to make fun of the “cult of personality.” This is not a flood yet but it is more than a trickle. The right wing talk show hosts are leading the way here. Laura Inghram, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Charles Krauthhammer, Joe Klein and others have started mocking rhetoric such as “we are the future we have been waiting for.” Joe Klein wrote a column in Time complaining that the Obama campaign is narcissitic and self-referential. Krugman also complained about the “cult of personality” in his column. There are newspaper cartoons beginning to appear making fun of his candidacy. I predict before too long late night talk show hosts will be doing skits making fun of this rhetoric.

    Here is the unavoidable danger for Obama. Once this starts, Obama is no longer the “cool” candidate. He becomes uncool and becomes a figure who is not the messiah but a kind of a joke. At that point, the youth vote will start peeling away from him becuase associating with him means then they become uncool. They will move to some other rock star type figure given their short attention span.

    The Republicans are being very clever in trying to marginalize him this way. They have started this process and they will continue relentlessly. This is what they did to Gore in 2000 ( the apocryphal stories about inventing internet, love canal, and so on) and to Kerry in 2004 (he helped them tremendously with his sailing and water skiing in tights). This is why McCain has started saying that Obama never deals in specifics (and he doesn’t) and Obama reacts by scheduling a “policy” speech the right next day (a little too reactive and desperate wouldn’t you say) by stealing Hillary’s proposals. It almost feels like Obama craves McCain’s approval (the missing father figure).

    The Republicans have started the process of knocking Obama off his pedestal. If this continues over the next three weeks, it can help Hillary tremendously because she is a grown-up and is considered a serious candidate. The working class voters care more about specifics than empty and vapid inspirational rhetoric. I think Obama is on the verge of becoming “uncool” and “unserious” in the popular narrative.

  94. jubjub
    I geard that from others as well. that they are threatening everyone. can this be investigated as a black mail? like a criminal proceedings?

  95. Glad that Cleaver is talking about the “squeeze” from BO and the threats – this is going to turn other SD’s off.

    Also, post those “fainting” videos – the cult storyline here is working.

  96. When we get the first article, from a legitimate news source, comparing Obama to the Anti-Christ, then I will know the perfect storm has arrived. 🙂

  97. Yes, do post the fainting videos. If the fainters were set up, or even if it just looks like it, that will be the beginning of the end. Some mocking for your reading pleasure:

  98. TPS – yes, brilliant analysis. Was also the same as when Al Gore insisted on using examples from the audience that were not completely authentic. He was crucified for it.

  99. hey guys. I’m going to start doing some more phone banking. How has it been going for u guys? smoothly i hope? (phone banking) 😀

  100. The parallels between what happened to Al Gore and what is happening to Hillary are amazing and need to be empahsized.


    Dont fall for the hype. Dont drink the koolaid.

    Hillary Clinton is the SMART choice.

  101. I heard the fainting-gate on the radio today. It was pretty funny all the incidents sounded exactly alike. Someone called in and defended BO and said there’s not a lot different you can do when someone faints. The host pointed out that these were a little too similar for that to be the case. And then he kept saying “PHONY PHONY PHONY PHONY”

    1, 2 the GOP is coming for you.

  102. Taylor Marsh did a blog story on Jessie Jackson Jr. threatening black super delegates. I have sent the story to the hispanic chambers of commerce in Wisonson and Texas. And I have sent it to various student group at Universities in TX, OH, and Wisconson. I sent it to the Asian American, Indian, Chinese, Latino, and Jewish student groups so that they are aware of the intimidation that is being used by the Obama campaign. I would suggest others spread the story around as much as possible because what they are doing is wrong and people should know about it.

  103. Everyone, do you see how Obambi is becoming a caricature? Very interesting. This could be the beginning of the end. People are beginning to not take him seriously.

  104. Okay, I’m confused. I’ve been in another state for over a week helping elderly parents and except for one day have not had access to a computer.

    Help me out…what is this Larry Sinclair/Obama thing you have mentioned?????

  105. johnflint1985, Rush Limbaugh did a mock commercial on him today. Here is a commentry from Taylor Marsh describing this:

    “Today on Rush’s show, he had an actually funny mock commercial which featured a bunch of Paris Hilton-soundalikes talking about why they supported Obama, saying things like: “The past is so… yesterday, and then there’s change because you have to want change.” Essentially, it was a riff on the words hope, change and future.

    Unlike much of Rush’s nonsense, this one is actually funny and actually can be repeated in polite company without having to feel ashamed of it. And it’s true and to the point. This is what is going to nail Obama in the general election.
    SilverScreen | 02.15.2008 – 5:06 pm | #”

    According to Tburones Laura Inghram started this morning’s show by dissecting his Super Tuesday speech. Charles Krauthhammer has a WP column on this today. There was also a Weekly Standard column on this. I referred to the Joe Klein article. Someone referred to a MIchale Medved radio show where he points out this women fainting episode. I saw a video on Taylor Marsh of Sean Hannity asking a focus group if they can cite a single accomplishment of Obama and none of them could. They don’t refer to it as “uncool.” If this marginalization continues he will become “uncool.”

  106. ok, some of these people seem pretty hostile….

    is it becuz they’ve been getting massive amounts of calls or is it just because they don’t like hillary 🙁 ? what’ve been ur results so far?

  107. Thanks JanH and Informed in Illinois. I think this is why Obama is a weak candidate for the GE. The Republicans will turn him into a joke by the fall.

  108. Just saw on MSNBC (I know I shouldn’t be watching) that obama supporters are going to be very disappointed if he is elected because he will be an incrementalist when it comes to change. So those expecting change will see very little during an Obama presidency.

    Is msnbc changing their tune or did I just tune in at a weak moment for them?

  109. Yo Ronald, I am in socal. I followed kaffeen’s instructions and got somewhere. Dialed into a conference call. But when I emailed the moderator as instructed for a call sheet the email addy wouldn’t go through. lol

  110. As we all know the BM takes its marching orders from right wing media. It won’t be too long before this meme jumps over to BM.

  111. can anyone tell me how their calls have been going? I’m kinda shocked. 2 hang ups after I said that I was working for the hillary Clinton campaign. And they were both women.

  112. mj, agreed. I hope this occurs sonner than later. The republicans do not want to face Hillary in the fall. That is why they are crossing over and voting for Obama in these red states.

  113. Just keep trying MJS….you will get hangups, there is nothing that can be done about that. Wouldn’t matter if you said you were God, you’d still have hangups.

  114. mjs – I haven’t called Wisconson but those over at Taylor Marsh have gotten a really good response and they said everyone has been friendly. So keep trying. You just got a couple of bad eggs.

  115. well, I’m calling delavan, wisonsin right now.

    I just called a woman who was like “it’s ok, i already voted absentee” and when i tried to inquire who she voted for she’s like “no, it’s none of your business” and hung up 🙁 ugh.

  116. call the local campaign office and they can talk you through it. I had a special number for calling from Massachusetts

  117. Another Texas endorsement for Hillary!

    State Senator Leticia Van de Putte Endorses Hillary for President
    State Senator Van de Putte joins other Latino Elected Officials Backing Clinton
    Citing her experience and commitment to universal health care, State Senator Leticia Van de Putte today endorsed Hillary Clinton for President.

    “Hillary Clinton is the only presidential candidate, from both parties, left in this race that has a universal health care plan,” said State Senator Van de Putte. “We need a president who’ll deliver real solutions to the urgent challenges we face – even when the going gets tough. It will take someone with strength and experience to fight to provide quality, affordable health care for every man, woman and child in America. I know that Hillary will bring the voices and values of all Americans to the White House,” added Van de Putte.

  118. is it dinner time right now? really? lol. oops. my bad. I guess I’ll stop.

    I usually have dinner at around 7-8. mybad. 🙁

  119. rjk – probably due to his “frontrunner” status – media, even MSNBC (unbelievable!) is finally going to vet him – everyone’s fearful of sudden buyers remorse with BO.

    with slim margin of delegate behind BO, I am very glad that the target is off Clinton’s back right now; she can focus on garnering those votes while the media will finally hit Obama.

  120. ok, I’ll wait till around 8ish lol. 🙁 i guess ppl really aren’t in the mood for politics when there’s food onthe table.

  121. TPS:

    great post. I was having the same feeling.
    I found BO a joke already much earlier in this contest and really hope that more people wake up soon.

  122. BO is sending an email to his supporters asking them to send in email to Superdelegates telling their BO story…..

    Let see. I was at a rally- I got paid to go and hold a sign. Suddenly, there was a strange weird feeling going up my leg. I looked down and saw a dog was peeing on me. Oh well. That’s OK I thought Im at an Obama rally. Then I was suddenly overcome by BO. Maybe it was the unwashed youngster near by who mistook the rally for a dead head event I dont know. I was so overcome with BO… I fainted. And then, this tall black man gave me some water. Like I was baptised or something. What a man.

  123. Alot of the voters you will be talking to are probably going to be older. In my experience, these people eat early, go to bed early, and wake up early. Everyone has their own times for dinner, but 6-7 is probably the average.

  124. highly doubt media will hit Obama.

    btw, there are hundreds of Illinoisers in ohio at the moment right now. Obama campaign has provided free housing and bussing and minivans for designated groups this weekend. They are canvassing Ohio as we speak.

  125. MJS, my responses were all really great. A few Bambi supporters, quite a few Hillfans, and a handful of undecideds.

    People were really nice though. Even the Bambi supporters were polite.

  126. did anyone post the fainting videos – if not, here’s the link: (type the html part)

    and here on WSJ –

  127. a few more days of Obama embarassment media moments and maybe it could become an avalanche. The media has always been fickle so maybe a trickle will become a waterfall!

  128. i think the hillary campaign has most likely already passed than number and will probably increase that number to 2 million phones 😀 lol

    how many voters ARE there in Wisconsin anyway? lol. Anyway we can help contact them all? 🙂

  129. ok, my friend in Ohio is just sent me a taunting email. He says the obama campaign has provided them with three per hotel room, breakfast buffet, and discounted diner dining for the weekend. They’ve each been given a box of Obama supplies like buttons, signs, stickers, etc.

    oh boy. they are hitting Ohio hard. Hope the Hillary campaign will combat this chicago-em-masse immigration.

  130. MJS I just called a woman who was like “it’s ok, i already voted absentee” and when i tried to inquire who she voted for she’s like “no, it’s none of your business” and hung up

    Kind of have to agree w/ her … here’s why many people won’t caucus, they like the private ballot.

  131. WASHINGTON — There’s no better path to success than getting people to buy a free commodity. Like the genius who figured out how to get people to pay for water: bottle it (Aquafina was revealed to be nothing more than reprocessed tap water) and charge more than they pay for gasoline. Or consider how Google found a way to sell dictionary nouns — boat, shoe, clock — by charging advertisers zillions to be listed whenever the word is searched.

    And now, in the most amazing trick of all, a silver-tongued freshman senator has found a way to sell hope. To get it, you need only give him your vote. Barack Obama is getting millions.
    This kind of sale is hardly new. Organized religion has been offering a similar commodity — salvation — for millennia. Which is why the Obama campaign has the feel of a religious revival with, as writer James Wolcott observed, a “salvational fervor” and “idealistic zeal divorced from any particular policy or cause and chariot-driven by pure euphoria.”

    “We are the hope of the future,” sayeth Obama. We can “remake this world as it should be.” Believe in me and I shall redeem not just you but your country — nay, we can become “a hymn that will heal this nation, repair this world, and make this time different than all the rest.”

    And believe they do. After eight straight victories — and two more (Hawaii and Wisconsin) almost certain to follow — Obama is near to rendering moot all the post-Super Tuesday fretting about a deadlocked convention with unelected superdelegates deciding the nominee. Unless Hillary Clinton can somehow do in Ohio and Texas on March 4 what Rudy Giuliani proved is almost impossible to do — maintain a big-state firewall after an unrelenting string of smaller defeats — the superdelegates will flock to Obama. Hope will have carried the day.

    Interestingly, Obama has been able to win these electoral victories and dazzle crowds in one new jurisdiction after another, even as his mesmeric power has begun to arouse skepticism and misgivings among the mainstream media.

    ABC’s Jake Tapper notes the “Helter-Skelter cultish qualities” of “Obama worshipers,” what Joel Stein of the Los Angeles Times calls “the Cult of Obama.” Obama’s Super Tuesday victory speech was a classic of the genre. Its effect was electric, eliciting a rhythmic fervor in the audience

    — to such rhetorical nonsense as “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.

    (Cheers, applause.) We are the change that we seek.”

    That was too much for Time’s Joe Klein. “There was something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism … ,” he wrote. “The message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is.”
    You might dismiss The New York Times’ Paul Krugman’s complaint that “the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality” as hyperbole. Until you hear Chris Matthews, who no longer has the excuse of youth, react to Obama’s Potomac primary victory speech with “My, I felt this thrill going up my leg.” When his MSNBC co-hosts tried to bail him out, he refused to recant. Not surprising for an acolyte who said that Obama “comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament.”

    I’ve seen only one similar national swoon. As a teenager growing up in Canada, I witnessed a charismatic law professor go from obscurity to justice minister to prime minister, carried on a wave of what was called Trudeaumania.
    But even there the object of his countrymen’s unrestrained affections was no blank slate. Pierre Trudeau was already a serious intellectual who had written and thought and lectured long about the nature and future of his country.

    Obama has an astonishingly empty paper trail. He’s going around issuing promissory notes on the future that he can’t possibly redeem.

    Promises to heal the world with negotiations with the likes of Iran’s President Ahmadinejad. Promises to transcend the conundrums of entitlement reform that require real and painful trade-offs and that have eluded solution for a generation. Promises to fund his other promises by a rapid withdrawal from an unpopular war — with the hope, I suppose, that the (presumed) resulting increase in American prestige would compensate for the chaos to follow.

    Democrats are worried that the Obama spell will break between the time of his nomination and the time of the election, and deny them the White House. My guess is that he can maintain the spell just past Inauguration Day. After which will come the awakening. It will be rude.

    Charles Krauthammer is a 1987 Pulitzer Prize winner, 1984 National Magazine Award winner, and a columnist for The Washington Post since 1985.

  132. Hillary needs to hit Barack on his consistencies. His Iraq war votes. She should straight up ask him, “If you thought this was a dumb war, why would you vote for it” and then hammer his BS excuse by noting that after he announced his run for president, he voted against the war. Then hammer into his vote or “non vote” on the sense of the U.S. Senate resolution that designated the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization by simply stating that “Barack you were a co-sponsor of legislation that did just that. Then tear into his contraditory voting record on the legislation that capped interest rates. His excuse was so stupid. I just can’t believe . Then delge into his 2005 support for Dick Cheney’s Energy Bill. And finally on his flip-flopping on his managing style. At one debate he said experience didn’t matter and that he was not an operating officer and it wasn’t his job to manage the bureaucracy, but “set the vision” for where the bureaucracy needs to go” (whatever that means). At the last debate he said that he was going to manage the bureaucracy. She should just tear into him.

  133. I’m still on the brazile trail. 😀

    For those interested, here’s a link to her testimony to the HOR Committee on the Judiciary on 5/7/07, entitled:
    “Election Deception and irregularities.” HA!

    I haven’t read the entire study but she starts out saying half of all AA’s have been disenfranchised in the voting process.

  134. Don’t be so sure the “vetting” of BO is underway, because it is not.
    It will be at best a 50% vetting, because big media cannot move on Obama until Hill’s out of the picture.
    So what you’re seeing is a lot of head fakes, because the media knows now it should be giving BO the full front runner treatment, which would normally (excepting our current president when he was a candidate of course) include a serious and thorough examination of all things Obama.
    But guaranteed nothing on BO will reach the breathless, intense coverage – the feeding frenzy – until and only if Hill’s out of the race.

  135. PARTICULARLY posts like this:

    ok, my friend in Ohio is just sent me a taunting email. He says the obama campaign has provided them with three per hotel room, breakfast buffet, and discounted diner dining for the weekend. They’ve each been given a box of Obama supplies like buttons, signs, stickers, etc.

    oh boy. they are hitting Ohio hard. Hope the Hillary campaign will combat this chicago-em-masse immigration.

  136. Idunn, my friend “in Ohio” meaning he is in Ohio right now from Illinois. He just went today because of the long weekend and senior ditch day.

  137. I’m still on the Brazile trail.

    For those interested, here’s a link to her 5/7/07 testimony to the HOR Committee on the Judiciary entitled:
    “Election Deception and Irregularities.” HA!

    I haven’t read the whole thing but within the first couple of pages she’s already said that half of all AA’s are DISENFRANCHISED by the voting process!

  138. Found this…, I don’t know… somewhere.
    Oh, TPM Cafe:

    What may turn out to be the worst thing to happen to the Obama campaign has been the Intrade Prediction Market’s new bullishness on his candidacy. Now up to a 70 percent probability of winning the nomination (compared to 29 percent for Hillary Clinton, 1.2 percent for Al Gore, and 0.2 percent for John Edwards), Obama’s stock has never been higher. Unfortunately for Obama, Intrade’s indices throughout this campaign cycle have been incredibly reliable indicators of what would not actually happen.

    On the Republican side, for example, the markets back in July had Giuliani and Thompson neck and neck for the nomination, with McCain languishing hopelessly below 10 percent — where he flatlined until November. Giuliani dominated the markets throughout the second half of ’07 notwithstanding widely available information about his unfitness for national office.
    On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton’s stock remained high throughout ’07, plummeted after Iowa, soared after New Hampshire, then basically tanked again over the past week or so. The smart money, this year anyway, ain’t so smart.

  139. Fox will have a good battle between our surrogate (the Ohio governor), and their surrogate (Gov. Doyle- Wisconsin’s governor)


    Here’s a link that lists all 30 members of the Rules and Bylaws Committeee.

    Since HRC would be ahead in delegates if FL and MI were counted, doesn’t anyone think it might help to contact the committee members?


  141. * These people are utterly useless. They are completely divorced from reality – even a so-called straight shooter (HA!) like Hack Cafferty. Read Gloria Borger’s rationale for not scrutinizing Obama UNTIL he’s nominated. Of course, she doesn’t explain why Hillary’s isn’t getting a similar free primary pass from the press. Oh, Gergen makes a cameo as The Sole Voice Of Reason.


    Aired February 14, 2008 – 18:00 ET

    BLITZER: Those contests in Wisconsin and Hawaii next Tuesday. This spotlight on Barack Obama is heating up. His increasingly strong shot at the White House is raising some questions about his ability to deliver on his promises.

    Let’s talk about that and more with our senior political analyst, Gloria Borger. She’s here in Washington. Our own Jack Cafferty. He’s in New York. And our senior political analyst, David Gergen. He’s at Stanford University in Palo Alto. They’re all part of the best political team on television.

    We’re going to show our viewers, Jack, a new cover of “The Economist” magazine. It says you know what, he really hasn’t faced the heat — the heat that he could expect to face if he is the Democratic presidential nominee, specifically from the Republicans — Jack.

    CAFFERTY: Yes, well neither has she. I mean when you get right down to it, she hasn’t had anymore heat, if you want to call it that, on the issues and on campaigning for the White House than he has. She’s faced some heat for some other reasons. And her husband faced a lot of heat while he was spending eight years as the president of the United States.

    I don’t know what heat she’s faced. And, you know, the purpose of these campaigns is to let people find out where these folks stand on the issues and make up their minds. But on many of the issues, the positions of Clinton and Obama are very, very similar.

    GLORIA BORGER, SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Exactly. You know, with all due respect to the economists, this race on the Democratic side is really about the issues only at the margins, Wolf, because, as Jack just said, there are some marginal differences between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on health care and how they would fine tune the economy or how they would fight a recession.

    But what this election is about is the larger picture — somebody who can walk across the aisle and walk — and work with the other side of the aisle, somebody who’s not polarizing. So it’s more about bigger things than smaller things.

    BLITZER: Is that what you think, as well, David?

    DAVID GERGEN, SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Not exactly on either count. On facing the heat, I think she has faced more heat than Barack Obama has in national campaign politics. She went through two presidential elections — very hard-hitting — in which she was right by the president’s side and had to — had to both defend him and stand in a lot of — under a lot of attacks. And she faced the heat in the White House over the health care reform, which she lost. So I think she has had more experience. I think that’s a legitimate claim.

    Barack Obama is holding out a very different kind of promise. And that is he can mobilize the voters of the country to overcome the polarization in Washington, that he can not only play the inside game — he’s learning more that — in Washington itself, but that he will be much more effective at mobilizing voters.

    But I think it’s a fair question to ask now, can he deliver? And he does deserve the scrutiny. I think many people think he will come out well in that will scrutiny. But he certainly deserves that kind of scrutiny as we go forward.

    BORGER: Well, I think any — any candidate at this level deserves that kind of scrutiny.

    GERGEN: Right.

    ************** TRUTH SLIP! TRUTH SLIP! **************

    BORGER: And I think if he were to get the nomination, obviously, you know this, David, we in the press like to get someone to the top of the mound and then we start sort of…

    GERGEN: Sure.

    BORGER: … taking another look at him and knocking him down a peg or two. And I’m sure — I’m sure Barack Obama will go through that. But if he beats Hillary Clinton and this question of is he tough enough, well, he’s beaten Hillary Clinton. That’s pretty — being pretty tough…


    BORGER: … you know, if he wins, you know?

    ************** TRUTH SLIP! TRUTH SLIP! **************

    GERGEN: Yes. Here’s the other thing, Wolf. I do think one thing that’s now become apparent is that the question or the argument that the Hillary Clinton campaign was if you want charisma, vote Obama, but if you want competence, vote for Hillary Clinton.

  142. From the Caucus, August ’07. Note that Iowa, NH, SDC were ALL given SPECIAL PERMISSION to change their primary dates.

    August 25, 2007, 1:56 pm
    D.N.C. Sanctions Sunshine State

    By Michael Falcone

    The Democratic National Committee took steps today to punish Florida Democrats for deciding to hold the state’s party primary on Jan. 29, 2008 — a week before the first date allowable under D.N.C. rules.

    The Rules and Bylaws Committee of the D.N.C. voted to strip Florida of all of its delegates at the party’s national convention next summer. The D.N.C. gave the Florida Democratic Party 30 days to submit a revised plan, ordering it to push the primary date back.

    At the D.N.C. gathering today in Washington, representatives from the Florida Democratic Party asked for “mercy” from national party leaders, and complained that the move amounted to disenfranchising Florida voters.

    Democratic party rules stipulate that Feb. 5 is the earliest date most state party organizations can decide to hold nominating contests. Four states — New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and Nevada — previously received special D.N.C. approval to hold their primaries before that date. (Both political parties and the wide field of 2008 candidates have been wrestling with primary front-loading, especially the logistical and practical issues revolving around the big “Super-Duper” Tuesday or “Tsunami Tuesday” of Feb. 5. Two dozen or so states have moved their primaries forward to remain competitive and give voters a voice before nominees are chosen.)

    The Republican-controlled legislature in the battleground state of Florida went even further this year, passing a bill setting Jan. 29 as the official date for the state’s primary. At today’s meeting, state Democratic party officials asserted that they had tried to fight the move.

    “We took all provable positive steps in good faith to prevent the legislative effort that caused the earlier primary,” said Karen L. Thurman, the chairwoman of the Florida Democratic Party.

    In pleading the state’s case, Ms. Thurman was trying to meet the committee’s threshold for complying with party rules that require evidence that officials mounted a serious effort against the state legislature’s action.

    “Florida Democrats did what they could, but in the end we failed to prevent the state of Florida from setting a primary date in violation” of national party rules, Ms. Thurman added. (The state’s Democratic Senator Bill Nelson yesterday vowed to fight any sanctions.)

    But most members of the D.N.C.’s Rules and Bylaws Committee seemed unpersuaded by the Florida Democrats’ arguments, expressing reservations about whether they had done enough to stop the bill before it was signed in May by Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican.

    One member of the D.N.C. rules committee, Donna Brazile, said that Florida should not be allowed any “wiggle room” on its primary date.

  143. Kingsgrove, Gloria Borger, jack Cafferty, Roland Martin, Donna Brazille all Obama supporters (it is just that they haven’t officially declared but it is really obvious) These are the pernicious kind. Media people acting as if they are impartial but are really Obama supporters.

  144. KingsGrove,
    They’re trying to influence the american public with negativity, half-truths, lies, and perhaps most damaging, what they DON’T cover.

    Seen through that lens, it all becomes quite clear.

    The Real Question is WHY?

  145. From ABC:
    “There are two competing moods in America today,” Bill Clinton said. “People who want something fresh and new — and they find it inspiring that we might elect a president who literally was not part of any of the good things that happened or any of the bad things that were stopped before. The explicit argument of the campaign against Hillary is that ‘No one who was involved in the 1990s or this decade can possibly be an effective president because they had fights. We’re not going to have any of those anymore.’ Well, if you believe that, I got some land I wanna sell you.”
    Note this lame comeback from BO Camp:
    Obama campaign spox Bill Burton tells ABC News in response, “It appears that the man who once told us ‘Don’t stop thinking about tomorrow’ has changed his tune and is now singing ‘Yesterday’ everywhere he goes.”

  146. if anyone’s interested in Ohio – I have out of state volunteer contact person. Please email me at babyellen2008 (at) gmail

  147. That is a lame comeback, lol.

    BTW, glad to see Rep. Cleaver talking about the Obama campaign’s race-baiting tactics against SDs. Very brave of him.

  148. # MJS Says:
    February 15th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    ok, some of these people seem pretty hostile….

    is it becuz they’ve been getting massive amounts of calls or is it just because they don’t like hillary 🙁 ? what’ve been ur results so far?
    MJS, I got 1 lady who after I asked for her but before I identified who I was, she said, ‘are you calling for Hillary’, I said yes and she hung up. I got another lady who said that she had gotten 4 calls in 1/2hr and that she would make up her mind on Tuesda.
    I’ll call for another 30mins and then switch to Texas.

  149. guys the video with sean hannity and Obama supporters knowing nothing about his “good deeds” – is becoming very popular on another forum – any more?

  150. Hopefully the viewers, if there are any left that is, can see the doubletalk for what it is. CNN…the best political team? Not a chance!!!

  151. Happy (belated) Valentine’s Day!

  152. This is what AA SDs who support Hillary are facing:

    Cleaver notes that some members of Congress who support Clinton are experiencing threats — not from fellow members but when they return home.

    They have been told that they would face opposition in their next election if they do not support Obama, and Cleaver says some — such as John Lewis — have become the victims of “robo-calls.” In Lewis’ case, the calls said “very, very derogatory things about him.”


    Cleaver, too, has experienced some troubles.

    “I had a person in my district send out a newsletter, for which I know he didn’t pay, distributed primarily in the African-American community, in which he suggested that I had been paid by Sen. Clinton to support her. I don’t know if there’s anyone who [is African American] who hasn’t taken some grief for supporting Sen. Clinton.” .. …

  153. Love the Big Dog:

    The explicit argument of the campaign against Hillary is that ‘No one who was involved in the 1990s or this decade can possibly be an effective president because they had fights. We’re not going to have any of those anymore.’ Well, if you believe that, I got some land I wanna sell you.”

  154. # MJS Says:
    February 15th, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    ok, my friend in Ohio is just sent me a taunting email. He says the obama campaign has provided them with three per hotel room, breakfast buffet, and discounted diner dining for the weekend. They’ve each been given a box of Obama supplies like buttons, signs, stickers, etc.

    oh boy. they are hitting Ohio hard. Hope the Hillary campaign will combat this chicago-em-masse immigration.

    I particularrly don’t care what your Obama ‘friend’ has to say as to what they are doing. if this is true, it is out of our control. What is in our control is that we donate and call.

  155. An interesting article on Obama’s cult of personality.

    February 11, 2008
    Obama’s Politics of Collective Redemption
    By Kyle-Anne Shiver
    “Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic.” Pope Benedict XVI

    A messianic fever grips a segment of the American populace and media. A great leader seems to them poised to redeem our collective sins and change nearly everything, bringing about a new era in which permanent solutions are found to age-old conditions.

    Whenever I watch Barack Obama, listen to his eloquent but nonspecific oratory, and see the near-swooning young people who invariably follow him wherever he goes, I cannot help but think of the pied piper and wonder toward what destination he is marching our youth. Obama is having this pied-piper effect not only on kids, but also on a large swath of Democrat and not a few independents and Republican voters, too.

  156. Over one million in one day. Amazing. Congrats to us. We are a force

    We should be able to to do 10 million calls in no time

    Let’s make sure they are the highest quality, just like our candidate

  157. I give up on the spam filter, you might get 20 of this one youtube video soon.

    Anyways I posted that link to counter the argument by some Obama supporters that people were told their votes wouldn’t count so they stayed home.

  158. Hi All, my second post! Is anyone else here in AZ? After helping HRC win this state, I want to organize a fundraising group – I used to work in the fundraising shop of the AZ Democratic Party – I have all the resources we need to raise a ton of money for the campaign. I left a message for the head of the steering committee and he didn’t return my call. Again, I have everything we need to raise big money, I need a little help finding a ‘name’ to make the calls. My email is:



    Barack Obama & His Cult of Personality

    “We don’t know much about him. He’s almost like a spirit. People like the feeling they get when they’re in his presence.”

    Sounds like Jesus,doesn’t it?

    Actually, Democratic media strategist Dan Payne is talking about Barack Obama in a CBS News interview.

    Payne goes on to say people “couldn’t tell you three things he’s done or stands for. We’re at that weird stage where candidates get so magnetic that it almost doesn’t matter what they say.”

    There is a name for this sort of thing. It’s called a cult of personality and many nations,through the years, developed it–Russia,Germany,Italy, Spain,China, Argentina,Chile to name but a few.

    This is not to suggest that Obama will be the next Stalin,or Franco, or Mao, or Hitler. But, if we are going to drink the Kool Aid Obama and his backers are serving up, we should at least know what’s in it or we run the risk of downing a potentially toxic brew.

    George W. Bush asked us to trust him. In exchange for our trust we got a mind numbing war in Iraq, partial dismantling of the Bill of Rights, and a foreign policy that says it is okay to invade another country simply because we think it poses some future risk.

    Obama, in many ways, is a cipher. And, as such, he allows us to superimpose on him what we want him to be. That should not be good enough to get a man or woman elected President of the United States.

    Some young people swoon when they gaze upon Obama–One New York Times reporter yesterday said there is almost something sexual about it. There is nothing wrong, of course, with a political candidate with sex appeal–Kennedy had it, Clinton (Bill) had it, even the over six foot tall George Washington had it.

    But, there should be something more than that to get the crowds all worked up. They should be worked up about his ideas, his programs, his blueprint for the future. They should not be worked up because he is a “spirit.”

  160. Jim, call the Virginia campaign headquarters and choose the option for finance from the mailbox. They are quite

  161. Paula @5:40

    Would you please bring the citation for the Republican % to the board.

    I have some folks waiting to see it (the citation.)

  162. This is what AA SDs who support Hillary are facing:

    Cleaver notes that some members of Congress who support Clinton are experiencing threats — not from fellow members but when they return home.

    They have been told that they would face opposition in their next election if they do not support Obama, and Cleaver says some — such as John Lewis — have become the victims of “robo-calls.” In Lewis’ case, the calls said “very, very derogatory things about him.”


    Cleaver, too, has experienced some troubles.

    “I had a person in my district send out a newsletter, for which I know he didn’t pay, distributed primarily in the African-American community, in which he suggested that I had been paid by Sen. Clinton to support her. I don’t know if there’s anyone who [is African American] who hasn’t taken some grief for supporting Sen. Clinton.” .. …
    Well if those AA superdelegates know that this is an organized campaign from the Obama camp…then they need to STAND and FIGHT because if they let this THUG get away with this, they would forever be known as COWARDS and can be intimidated to do the wrong thing.

    They’re suppose to be leaders and they do have support….Obama is going down and those who supported this dirty campaign don’t be surprise when you go down too. There are a lot of Black leaders like Maxine Waters and Ron Dellum who support Hillary with Pride and Conviction.

    Don’t give in to the threats. FIGHT!!!

  163. well cnn is already writing her obituary…lkl panel is already figuring how to campaign against Obama in the GE…haha…..

    McCain will do whatever it takes…

    Just keep counting her out.

  164. just once I would like to see a panel on CNN that was evenly divided with pro-Hillary and pro-Obama talking points. I used to be such a fan of that network. Now I just cringe if I accidentally come across it.

  165. love seeing Sean Hannity sweat and squirm…now to get to watch him do it when Hillary knocks bambi out of the ballpark.

  166. Don’t believe the hype…the MSM are a bunch of propagandists doing psychological warfare on it’s on citizens. This is called Election tampering 101….so IGNORE THEM AND GIVE FOXNEWS and ABC YOUR BUSINESS. DONT REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR!!!!


    These networks are unamerican and don’t share the values and traditions of a free and fair press.

  167. Sean, practically without words…LOL

    Sorry Kat!

    Oh,God … Meat Cleaver Murder…this is not funny but boy good this bring on some good comments. (Sympathies to that poor woman and her family .. this is one heinous crime)


    Friday, February 15, 2008 @ 5:23pm

    Obama Campaign Theatrics

    –Producer Phil writes

    A Wall Street Journal writer, James Taranto , has uncovered a hilarious and puzzling coincidence at 5 different Sen. Obama campaign speeches over the last few months, including the recent speech in Seattle.

    Dori and listeners have found one other Sen. Obama incident posted on YouTube where a person near the stage faints. Sen. Obama responds to each incident with the same routine and phrases.

    Is it phoney, orchestrated, manufactured campaign theatrics or is it merely physiological coincidence? You be the judge.

    VIDEO circa Feb. 24th, 2007-Sen. Obama in Los Angeles, CA

    VIDEO Sept. 8th, 2007–Sen. Obama in Santa Barbara, CA scroll to 6:29

    VIDEO Dec. 8th, 2007–Sen. Obama in Des Moines, IA scroll to 1:45

    VIDEOJan. 8th, 2008–Sen. Obama in Hanover, NH

    VIDEOFeb. 4th, 2008–Sen. Obama in Hartford, CN scroll to 6:05

    AUDIOFeb 8th, 2008 Sen. Obama encountered another fainter at his Key Arena speech in Seattle

  169. maybe we could look up the Meat Cleaver guy and send him after the little wing(nuts) over at Msnbc…look out Tucker and Matthews LOL ,, I’m so tired tonite I’m a little wingy

  170. hey guys! just trying to catch up… i posted earlier, but just an fyi abt the fake fainters… i received the email from a friend of mine that is a rebublican. he told me that this email is being circulated in the right wing circles. if i post here you wont get the links.

    if you would like the email with the links to the original articles, plz email me at
    i’ll send it to you.

  171. well now, the Obama is stealing Hillary’s answer on the iraq war pullout…”convene the generals and get a plan” … Hillary has been saying this for months

  172. this is not the night I should be watching tv…

    how many calls did everyone else make today?

    I’m going to start keeping a record of mine and I’m going to go back and do followup with them afterwards…

  173. MJS, I hope you are still calling!!!

    I have to be honest… I have gotten calls from Hillary campaign… I am a volunteer; I went to NH and went out to the polls in NY and know plenty of people here in connection with the campaign. I have been giving Hill money since 2006! Yet still… I have gotten calls and been very curt with people on the phone BECAUSE…. I AM A CRANKY BITCH!! ;0 I don’t like getting calls on my cell phone, especially if I am in the middle of something (but I don’t have a home phone, so there’s no other option!) but I am still a HUGE HILLARY SUPPORTER! And I will turn around and make these same calls to other people! ;P

    So DON’T lose hope and don’t take it personally!!! Please just assume that the people hanging up on you are cranky, tired folks who don’t like chatting on the phone. That’s it! 🙂

    Hope that helps!!!! xoxooxox

  174. By ABM90
    Obama boasts of the Repubs that are spporting and voting for him and thinks he can include them in his Admin.Obama you are being SNOOKERD and you are so self centered that you can’t see what is headed your way.You will look like Choppod Liver when the are finished with you.Your entry into this race(Ego Trip)will have four Cult followers in Bread and unemployment lines for years to come.Don’t forget REZKO-REZKO-REZKO- is COMING

  175. TPS, maybe we could send some cyber smelling salts in advance of the Obama rallies.

    This is so fake. This guy just has to have SO MUCH attention. Can’t you imagine what the oval office would be like with him in it? Bet media wouldn’t be too happy to have to cover his press conferences that he’d have to call every day to feed his ego. He doesn’t realize that the Presidents job is actually pretty lonely and requires a lot of hard work. He’d not be able to function without the adoring swooners at his every move.

  176. hate cnn, but i LOVE that anderson cooper is doing a piece on sexism v. racism! AND anderson calls her “Senator Clinton” NOT “hillary”. at least he’s showing a little respect. there is no way he could be for barry… the gays hate him! well, at least my gays do. his stance in gays is complete BS! “oh i’m for unions and equality”… unions are NOT equality! marriage is equality!

  177. okay… what is UP? i am listening to a republican strategist, jane junn and i am totally agreeing with her… ??? well, i can tell you i would have neber seen that one coming!!!!!!!

  178. Was reading here tonight about Wisconsin calls. I made a bunch (before dinner time) 😉 and only got ONE totally committed HRC voter. She was 91! HOWEVER, I had a lot of answering machines, and a few hang-ups, but i did at least get a disgruntled McCain voter (whose wife is a nurse and as he said “Surrounded by all the Hillary-supporting nurses – his words) to look at Hillary again. HE gave me all the typical Republican stuff. And we had a twenty-minute conversation about economy, war, healthcare…all the usual suspects. He was not in the least hostile, and by the time we finished, I BELIEVE I left him with some real things to think about. 🙂

  179. Can you imagine this guy in the oval office.Dos not like paper work,Would have both parties guiding him by appointing peaple from both sides to join his cabinet. Then he could just say present and and push the wrong buttons.Perhaps even the one in the BLACK BAG.His supporters or survivors would call it JUST A CHILDISH MISTAKE. “SHADES of ALFRED NEWMAN”

  180. Some odd and offbeat news tidbits for tonight:

    The latest issue of the Globe tabloid has the story about Weatherman Bill Ayers donating to Obamas campaign and holding a series of fundraisers for him over the years.

    Larry Sinclair, the guy on the Obama sex/drugs YouTube video, has been offered $100,000 to take a polygraph test by the website. I’ve heard a couple radio interviews by this guy and while it’s a crazy story he is consistent when he tells it. He is certainly facing an immense slander lawsuit at some point from Obama.

  181. Paula-the motivations of the SD’s are likely to change after 3/4. Hint: think about it like Karl Rove would and the why of it will be obvious.

  182. Evenin’ Idunn darlin’ and thanks! I also donated mo’ money and will be calling this weekend. The blogs are great. People there REALLY pumped up and calling and writing DNC/Edwards and anyone else they can think of. It’s fiun to read the real excitement in the rank-and-file Hillary folks. Me included! This woman just ROCKS.

  183. @mj: you really should put it on cnn… they’re talking abt latinos now.

    the panel was made up of three women, aa, latina & asian… they were talking abt racism v sexism… aa woman said that she identified as female long before she had to identify as an aa… the latina said why do you have to vote based on your identity? why not vote on the ISSUES that affect you… who is going to help my small business, who is going to do something abt the economy? whatever issue is important to you, not race or gender… the asian woman said that those issues are defined by your race and/or your gender…. good discussion. it’ll be on agaim tomorrow from 1-3. theyre doing a two hour special on race, gender and politics

    good piece on the latino vote coming up… looks like they are backing hillary in tx… said he’s doing radio ads in spanish… but the latinos they interviewed said, yeah, he’s probably a good guy, but we just met him. he’s going to help aas, not latinos…

    its worth watching (i think)… i havent thrown anything at the tv yet! which is rare these days when my husband is watching the news…

  184. I too have noticed a slight shifting in the BO worship tday by BM. I was working (paiinting in a ho me)) today and CNN was on. Although there was the usual drivel, it was not QUITE as fawning.

    Also turned a friend on mine in Media on to TaylorMarsh and here. She is a HUGE Hillary fan and her husband is a producer for local TV. They are both smart as whips, and GET IT with Bambi. No selling by me needed. Maybe some of these things will be looked at by local media a bit more too.

  185. It’s called a cult of personality and many nations,through the years, developed it–Russia,Germany,Italy, Spain,China, Argentina,Chile to name but a few.
    This is not to suggest that Obama will be the next Stalin,or Franco, or Mao, or Hitler.

    Okay, now what about people who have tried this technique but NOT gone on to USE the powers for evil. Have some of them been deflated and not achieved lasting power?

    If it’s a known technique, are there known means for deflating them before they get real power?

  186. Ok. I’m going to make a one-day trip to Wisconsin this upcoming Sunday or Monday to canvass for Hillary.

    + I’ll see if I can track down some Bambi rallies and hold up some “Show me the REzko!” or “RezBama for President!” signs during the rally 😀

  187. well did the 2 union endorsements get the “bow down and worship even more” or “get the fatted calf” treatment today for the messiah?.

  188. @spacegirl: i know… this morning before he went to work he told me, “babe you need to chill…” to which i replied.. “chill? chill? this is the future of our country. you dont understand the impact of this election! this is the future of our future children.. yada yada yada…” needless to say, he wont be telling me to chill again anytime soon!

    btw… congrats on that call!!! that is such great news! good for you!

  189. ok yeah. my calls ended up ok i guess.
    3 definitely for HIllary
    1 for bam bam
    a whole hella lotta messages
    and I just called somone 10 minutes ago who scolded me before I even said “hillary clinton campaign” (thank god) and told me she and hubby her a-sleepin in bed….

    but it was good 🙂

  190. Thanks Diva….it was really a very interesting conversation. I think he figured out I was not a “bot” but actually could speak to issues, respect his point of view, agree with SOME of it, argue that which I did not and all was well….

    I did not just say “YES WE CAN OR ELSE, you *^&#*$@(*@”


  191. aND WHATT WAS SUPPOSEDLY bAMBI’S POJNT TODAY WHEN HE SAID SOMETHING, IN HIS oh so TYPICAL AND CONDESCENDING WAY about “Well, we all know that when Senator Clinton gets down….BSBSBS”


  192. I got one elderly lady today who was a real sweetie. We talked for quite a awhile, and then she said her husband was an Obama fan. I whispered just low enough for her to hear….”you know he’s the antichrist right?” At that, she turned from the phone and screamed, “HARRY! I TOLD YOU THAT SOB WAS THE DEVIL!”

    (just kidding, never happened, I’m a liar)

  193. It’s official. Taylor Marsh has called it swiftboating, and I agree with her assessment. I’m not sure if my comment over there in this thread will make it past the moderators (I’ve had problems with that in the past when I spoke up about it previously) but I think we need to rally around this problem.

    Clyburn, Superdelegates and Robo-Call Threats

    I originally tried to draw attention to the language and rhetoric that AA women were reporting being subjected to in an effort to get them to identify with their race instead of their sex. When a person doesn’t perceive a discernable difference between candidates, it’s likely that identity politics will have an impact on their choice. AA women have been assaulted with rhetoric that shamed them into voting according to race. (I can’t find the link to the blog run by an AA woman where I saw the comments written by someone who quoted some of the nastiness that she encountered at other AA blogs. I can only say that I was taken aback by what I saw.)

    In any case, it seems that now that the AA base has been brought in line with these tactics, BHO’s supporters are now targetting Superdelegates. The appalling comments by JJJr, have been widely reported but I suspect that the assaults are not limited to him. When even Rep. Lewis, who has experienced and endured actual violence against the strength of his convictions, is now waivering, we know that the rhetoric has reached critical levels.

    Swiftboating is swiftboating, but because this is Dem on Dem swiftboating, I think Hillary needs to respond with a delicate hand. The perpetrators are attempting to break us from within. My advice to Hillary is to frame her predicament as a kind of Hillary’s Choice between preserving the gains and hard fought position of AAs and the need to heal the country in the wake of the George W. Bush. Hillary is, regretfully, in the position of making Sophie’s Choice, but perhaps she can overcome this by calling on Democrats, to make Solomon’s Choice.

    PS: Sorry if this has been discussed, I haven’t yet had a chance to catch up on the discussions here.

  194. LMAO! Wouldn’t you just love to do that? Hey, IDunn, do you use your Obama “voice of the day” when you are making calls? Channel MLK or James Earl Jones or Oprah while stumping for HRC? ow about you get your OBAMA voice down! HA!

  195. i got this young lady who before I even spoke said “I’m damn for HIllary, and don’t u try to suade me” before I said that i was with the HRC campaign lol

  196. MJS, cool! that counters the woman who said “I am 100% against Hillary Clinton” and hung up on me. I just made another call. Can’t change em if they don;t stay on the line. BEsides, it wasted time! LOL

  197. There is an old Texas saying. It goes like this: Dont fuck with Hoppy.

    Mindful of that wisdom I am amazed that Barry Inc is telling superdelegates that they have no discretion, must vote along racial lines if they are black and if they fail to do so he will destroy them in their districts.

    Is this perchance the unpublished chapter of The Audacity of Hope? Or did another mask just come off.

  198. i think we need to get Ann Coulter out there to rally up the republicans for Hillary 😀

    At least make it an even playing field in case repubs decide their own race is too boring :-*

  199. Well MJS, I did have some POLITE folks who were not interested in telling me who (what party) they were voting for. I simply said “thank you for your time and have a good evening” The VERY FEW who really were rude…well…either they were in that unexplainable “I hate Hillary” camp and had probably been so for years, or, they were BOTS, but I doubt that. BO supporters, I have found, want you to KNOW that are voting for Bambi. MUST get his name out there. So I figure they were just republicans…real right wing ones. But that is conjecture.

  200. yay, MJ. 🙂 i mean, i know they have stupid reasons for backing Hillary, but Coulter is one of the few people out there who doesn’t GIVE A SHIT what anyone thinks about her or anything she says 😀 she’ll call bambi out, call him a pussy, and anything else and just STILL be “Ann Coulter” 😀

  201. Spacegirl, I really hate rude people. It’s one thing to differ on opinions, but do these people not see how hard we are working on this campaign? At least have the courtesy to say “i’m not interested, thanks, goodbye” or something! Don’t just hangup! 👿

  202. Maybe it’s a thing like “don’t screw bunnies”…cause it might be fun in THAT moment, but then you’re over run with the damned things.

    Or not.

  203. Obama is running on Hillary hate. I f he becomes the nom people will suddenly realize they hace two crappy candidates to choose from and they will wonder why on earth they hated Hillary so much.

  204. MJS, don;t take it personally. I know it does not excuse them, but that is THEIR problem, not yours. Just call more and SMILE 🙂

  205. basil9 Says:

    February 15th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Here’s a link that lists all 30 members of the Rules and Bylaws Committeee.

    Thanks Basil9 I’m going to post the names so that we can put a stoplight on their shenanigans and people can see who they are and call and send emails.

  206. I hate that Crazy Bitch Ann Coulter but she will call O every name in the book if he is the nominee. She just doesn’t give a SH*T! lol

  207. guys, I’ve been learning about this new “positive” religion thing or something like that, where if you concentrate ALL your energy and your feelings on a POSITIVE outcome, the positive outcome will come :D.

    well, right now, I am POSITIVE, Hillary will be the next president of the US of A and for sure, the democratic nominee 😀

  208. cnn…. clinton is huge with the asian vote. she beats him 70/30 in exit polls…

    if you look at the 80-20 initiative (s.b. woo), they are the largest asian american group and have an email list and have asked all asian americans to support hillary. the reason woo said they did this is bc they asked the candidates questions and their endorsement came from the candidate’s answers.

    holy hell… i just realized… i’m liveblogging anderson cooper!!! someone help me!

    btw… after listening to your experiences…you guys have me scared to make the calls tomorrow! AND i have worked on campaigns and was in hardcore pharmaceutical sales for 10 years… cold called my ass off, but i’m afraid of getting some crazy obamaite on the phone…

    btw… does your personal phone number come up? i dont want ppl to know my cell number… how does that work?

  209. mj, buyer’s remorse is real, but so is pride. many may just suck it up and take the big O off their cars. I for one, will never vote for him for President.

  210. after listening to your experiences…you guys have me scared to make the calls tomorrow!

    Oh stop. It’s a cake walk, honest. As fierce as YOU are, it won’t be any big deal. Believe me.

  211. Who’s on the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committees?


    Alexis Herman (co-chair, Washington, D.C.)
    James Roosevelt, Jr. (co-chair, Massachusetts)


    Harold Ickes, Jr. (Washington, D.C.)
    Donna Brazille (Washington, D.C.)
    Donald Fowler (South Carolina)
    Allan Katz (Florida)
    Elizabeth Smith (Washington, D.C.)
    Mark Brewer (Michigan)
    Ralph Dawson (New York)
    Hartina Flournay (Washington, D.C.)
    Carol Khare Fowler (South Carolina)
    Alice Germond (Washington, D.C.)
    Jaime Gonzalez, Jr. (Texas)
    Janice Griffin (Virginia)
    Alice Huffman (California)
    Thomas Hynes (Illinois)
    Ben Johnson (Washington, D.C.)
    Elaine Kamarck (Massachusetts)
    Eric Kleinfeld (Washington, D.C.)
    David McDonald (state of Washington)
    Mona Pasquil (California)
    Mame Reiley (Virginia)
    Garry Shay (California)
    Michael Steed (Washington, D.C.)
    Sharon Stroschein (South Dakota)
    Everett Ward (North Carolina)
    Jerome Wiley Segovia (Virginia)
    Sarah Swisher (Iowa)
    Yvonne Gates (Nevada)
    Martha Fuller Clark (New Hampshire)
    Look! The fix is in…see how over represented Washington, D.C. is and how the east coast dominate this powerful committee?

    PLACE THE SPOTLIGHT ON THE DIRTY 30! Bring them out under their rocks and let the people see those elites denying the right of MI/FL citizens their votes.

  212. Diva, there are MUCH more experienced ppl on this site that can speak to that. And no, don’t be afraid. It’s really easy. AS for your number showing, you could always use #67 ( think that is it) however, there was this posted on BLOG yesterday. I have not tried it so I have no idea re: veracity. Perhaps someone else can offer input/verification with this info?


    by hillaryfansMD 2/13/2008 4:26:38 PM Description
    The WI Primary is on February 19! We HAVE to help Hillary!

    This is the same system we used, dialing in and the campaign calling us back. This system is free, does not show your ID and you decide when to start and stop.

    WARNING: Do not call after 9:00 CST!!! It is illegal!


    Ready Your Phone

    1. DIAL IN: 1-866-258-4600

    2. The automated voice will ask you, “If this is the phone where you would like to receive your calls, please press pound.”

    3. PRESS #

    4. The automated voice will ask you for your extension. You do NOT have an extension if you are making these calls from your home phone.

    5. PRESS #

    6. Then the automated voice will offer to read you the instructions. If you’ve never made ACTIVATE calls before, you should listen to them. Otherwise, the automated voice tells you that you can enter the Agent ID.

    7. AGENT ID: 401 673 #

    8. The automated voice will tell you to enter your PIN.
    PIN: 2008 #

    9. The automated voice will tell you to hang up your phone.


    11. WAIT FOR YOUR PHONE TO RING in 30 seconds or less

    12. When your phone rings, ANSWER YOUR PHONE.

    13. You will hear some tones confirming your entrance into the system, then silence.

    14. WAIT TO HEAR A BEEP: this means that you are on the line live with a caucus goer.

    15. When you hear the beep, say:

  213. Idunn, Spacegirl: it means that if the other guy is bigger than you are, or has got the hammer over you, it is generally unwise to offend him. And when his name is Hoppy and he is the meanest junk yard dog in Rusk County Texas it can also be unhealthy.

  214. i’ve been very careful to say:

    “In Hillary’s campaign, we understand that this election is about real results for the American people. It is a chance to share the voices and concerns of all Americans everywhere.”

    ^or sumthn along those lines with every call :p

  215. omg! idunn… you watch project runway dont you???? “fierce”???

    off topic, but I. CAN. NOT. WAIT. FINALE!!!

    i’ll be fine after i get it down… i havent worked on a campagin since the mid 90s…

  216. i srsly think that right now the race in Wisconsin is tied. Maybe a slight Hillary lead because of rural areas and workers, but factor in the republican douches, and u prbbly have a tie =/

  217. I say, following basic campaign script, say what you are comfortable with. Just make sure to get date right and, if you can. Also, if I have someone favorable, I ask if they need help getting to the polls, then write that back to campaign. I

    I have NOT used the system I just posted, I use the numbers, but apparently there are two different links now on the site for calling.

    Thanks wbboei! Where is Rusk County? I lived in Harris and Galveston for three years. I LOVE texas. When I get out of Fla, I wil be there or back up on the Cape

  218. thank you so much you guys!!! i’m nervous/excited… i hate ppl that are rude though…

    i like that verbage mjs…

    BTW… MY LINKS TO REZCO ARE OVER AT HUFFPO! yippeee…. lets see if i get bashed? i’m sure a bunch of hillary haters will be on that article bc its exposing the media for kissing his ass and trashing her!

  219. On Friday, the Texas Credit Union League released a poll conducted by the Republican firm of Public Opinion Strategies and the Democratic firm of Hamilton Campaigns.
    It showed that, overall, Clinton leads Obama in the state by 49 percent to 41 percent.
    Among Hispanics, she led as she has in other key states by a margin of 2 to 1. Among Hispanic women, the lead was more than 3 to 1.

  220. Idunn 🙁

    wow. i don’t know what to say. my eyes welled up.

    the media is out of control. Its what they did after Anna Nicole’s death too and Heath Ledger, etc.

    And now this O_o

    Why can’t they leave people alone? Focus on the news, don’t be detectives and try digging for a deeper story. leave people be 🙁

  221. carbynew
    I wouldn’t read to much into that list. many of those listed as from DC are political hacks who are from all over the country and are now based in DC. They are not elected officials from DC ( in that case cause to worry) just work there as political consultants.

    It is the credentials committee we need to get control of in order to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations.

  222. omg! idunn… you watch project runway dont you???? “fierce”???

    That EXACTLY where I got it from. I love that little smurf, Christian! Nearly died laughing when Chris said, “Someone needs to give him a bottle and send him to bed.” 🙂

  223. Figured I’d try to relax and watch Bill Mahrer. Mistake!

    He’s been totally infiltrated. Two segments loaded with on “Yes We Can” lingo, a Bill Clinton sex joke (a Hillary cries jokes too), then onto a McCaskill interview and coming up – Andrew Sullivan & Frank Luntz.

    Heaven help this country.


    IDunn…that poor man lives about an hour from me. I hate it for him and all those families.

  225. Me too, Spacegirl. I feel bad for people like that, trainwrecks like Anna Nicole and Britney Spears, Princess Diana…all of them. I don’t watch tv news, entertainment shows or read tabloids. I won’t contribute to shit like that. Period.

  226. Bill Maher is a sexist pig. WTF? I am so over Bill Clinton sex jokes and what about the countless men who have cried. She didn’t even cry.

  227. If I am forced to pick up a People Mag in a doctor’s office or someplace, I only know who the heck they are talking about if I see Madonna or Tom Cruise. The rest I am clueless.

  228. I hear you. When I tell people I don’t buy that kind of tabloid trash or watch it on tv, they earnestly ask, “What do you do for entertainment?”

    Ummm…I read. I hike. I birdwatch. I garden. I make’s the sweet love to my man…ya know, REAL stuff. 🙄

  229. OH! I forgot, the disenchanted McCain guy I spoke with tonight DID say “Obama’s record will come out. The republicans will investigate him”

    Can’t believe i forgot that!

  230. Well folks, I have about 3 chapters left of The Seduction Of Hillary Rodham…think I’ll go polish them off and hit the sack.


  231. Idunn, Who wrote that book again?

    David Brock. I really like it, because it’s not sugary sweet, and it’s not full of irrational hate. Just an honest account of her life.

  232. David Brock is a pretty controversial writer. His own life story makes for a fascinating read.

  233. Idunn,

    So it’s a balanced study of Hillary’s life. Why can’t CNN have David Brock on the show instead of that other idiot who wrote that kamikaze attack on her?

  234. Brock doesn’t gloss over the rough patches in Hill’s story, but he obviously has ALOT of respect for her. Don’t think he’s real crazy about Bill, kinda takes the stance that Bill has always brought Hillary down. BUT, I don’t neccesarily share that opinion and he doesn’t be-labour that point in the book.

    It’s a good read.

  235. Well gang. I have a crazy client to deal with in the morning. Gonna head to bed and lull myself to sleep with some REAL news at Americas Coast to Coast AM….

    Tired of hearing about bots for a while. Need some real good UFO visitations, shadow people or conspiracy theories….

    More calls tomorrow. I THINK we are having a calling party at a friends house. If not, I will make calls anyway.

    Keep the faith and we will win this! GO HILLARY!

  236. I know he wrote it before he turned agains the right wing, but it’s supposed to be pretty fair.

    Actually, it was BECAUSE he wrote a fair account of Hillary’s life that the right wing turned against HIM. THAT was what opened his eyes up to the horrors of the “hate wing” in politics.

  237. love this post abt barry at huffpo:

    “JFK. As one swept up by “Camelot” in the 60’s, I’m realistic enough now to know that he was a pill-popping womanizer who made Bill Clinton look like an amateur.
    Eugene Robinson may be a good columnist, but he’s right in there with Matthews and Scarborough bashing women.”

  238. Idunn, if I recall, when he went to write the book, he was expecting to do a hatchet job on her, but when he researched her, he found out he respected her and what she went through. You’re absolutely right.

  239. Spacegirl: I love Galveston. I love it for its people, its beaches, and its 19th century buildings. It was once the leading port of South Texas, but that was not destined to last. The hurricanes of 1875, 1900 and if memory serves there was also one in the 1920’s caused the shipping interests to relocate to Houston–or so I was told.

    Rusk County is located in southeast Texas 2 hours west of Sheveport La. South of Tyler, closer to Marshall and Lufkin. I have close friends in Laneville. They are ranchers, town leaders and Republicans–who are voting for Hillary. Some pretty tough rednecks in that area even now. Saturday nights are for drinking and fighting, etc. Lots of Hoppys.

  240. Did anyone read Lawrence O’donell’s piece on Huffpo? I’d read it but I don’t ever visit their homepage. The Hllary hate is more than I can stomach.

  241. @mj: and hell no! i cant stand him… he’s been on the talk show circuit spewing his bs all week… mustve decided to come out from under his rock this week…

  242. ARRRGH! I lost a truly amazing insightfully written (okay, I’m prone to hyperbole) comment in Spacegirl’s Spam filter!

    The post was about this commentary by Taylor Marsh:

    Back in January, I happened upon a blog run by an AA woman (I’ve since lost the link). At that site, there were disturbing comments by other AA women who described some of the rhetoric they had encountered at many AA blogs. Back then, the target was AA women who had made the assessment that Hillary was the better choice in this primary. The rhetoric was brutal.

    My thoughts at the time were that Hillary’s campaign needed to formulate a strategy that allowed her to win the nomination without forcing AA women to be subjected to this kind of assault. Bear in mind that this was about the time of SC and had it been possible to implement that strategy then the campaign may have been able to make a more concerted effort in some of the states that swing wildly in favor of BHO on Super Tuesday. That’s water under the bridge now but the problem remains.

    Now that AAs are consistently firmly in the 80% to 90% range in favor of BHO, his campaign has set its sights on AA superdelegates using techniques that can only be described as Dem on Dem Swiftboating. The assault cannot be ignored, but because it is Dem on Dem, it must be handled with a deft touch.

    My proposal is that we frame the dilhema as Hillary’s Choice. Hillary is in a position where she must make the choice. Swiftboating a Democratic candidate by a Democratic candidate cannot go unaddressed, however, she also cannot destroy her attackers because they are an integral part of the Democratic base.

    It is my hope that Hillary is able to reframe her dilhema. If she can work her magic and transform this Sophie’s Choice into a Solomon’s Choice for voters, she might be able staunch the bleeding and heal the party at the same time. It’s a delicate balance, but swiftboating cannot go unanswered. Voters need to see that she is absorbing the assault not ignoring it. They need to know that she’s doing it for the sake of the voters who are making, arguably, the most deeply personal decision for President that they will make in their lifetime.

    Perhaps, some of the AA superdelegates, who are reportedly waivering, can be persuaded to understand that their constituents were allowed to vote with their hearts because they have hard boiled representatives who could be counted on to vote with their heads. Voters can be fooled into voting against their own best interests, our Superdelegates need to get beyond the rhetoric and tricks and vote to preserve those interests, especially when it’s easier to follow than it is to lead.

  243. From Saturday’s NY Times:
    Another close ally of Mr. Gore’s, however, said: “He recognizes the need for a few party elders to stay on the sidelines to ensure, if needed, that the process is fair and honest. It could very likely take a group of senior party people, including Gore, to settle this, but the only way they can settle it is if they stay on the sidelines now.”
    Kalee Kreider, communications director for Mr. Gore, said that he “has no present plans to endorse a candidate,” though she added, “He has not ruled out that possibility prior to the convention.” Ms. Kreider declined to discuss Mr. Gore’s private conversations with party leaders.

    But four close associates of Mr. Gore’s said senior party officials had actively consulted him for his advice about what the superdelegates should do if neither Mr. Obama nor Mrs. Clinton amassed the 2,025 delegates necessary to win the nomination after the final Democratic caucus in Puerto Rico on June 7.

    Party leaders described Mr. Gore as a potentially crucial mediator because the putative head of the party — and the man who chose him as his vice president — Bill Clinton, is hardly a neutral observer when it comes to his wife’s candidacy.

    “Because President Clinton is very involved on one side, there is an opening for him to be a more neutral force and an honest broker,” said a close associate of Mr. Gore’s, who like most of the associates spoke only on the condition of anonymity. “He’s probably the only unaligned person with the kind of stature to step in to that role and have a real impact on this.”

    Several allies said that because of Mr. Gore’s bruising defeat in 2000 presidential voting in Florida, he would have the credibility with Democrats to carry the message that the will of the people should be respected.

    Both the Clinton and Obama campaigns are aggressively lobbying the superdelegates, a battle that received new attention after Representative John Lewis of Georgia, who had endorsed Mrs. Clinton, said late Thursday that he would cast his superdelegate ballot for Mr. Obama if the battle for the nomination went to the convention.

    The Clinton camp has Mr. Clinton making frequent calls, and Mr. Obama’s surrogates are pushing for superdelegates from states where he won primaries or caucuses to pledge their support to him.
    But there was no sign of any wholesale shift in support toward Mr. Obama on Friday. Representative James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, the Democratic whip and highest-ranking African-American in Congress, said he intended to remain neutral and let the primaries play out even though Mr. Obama won overwhelmingly in his district and state.
    “If I were to only reflect my state, then that may not be good enough for a national candidate,” Mr. Clyburn said. “So I think we ought to use our collective judgment to do what is in the best interests of our party.”
    At a private dinner that Mr. Edwards, a former senator, held at his home last Saturday for a dozen close friends, he said he had spoken recently with Mr. Gore about the benefits of neutrality, someone who was at the dinner said. Although a number of his supporters had been urging him to endorse Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton has actively sought his backing, Mr. Edwards said he intended to remain on the fence for the time being, the person said.

  244. Hey…I had to dash back thru and leave this. A post that is encouraging from a blogger at Mother Jones in response to an article titled “Obama Steals Clinton’s Base” (I was hoping it would be about STEALING her base, but alas, it was just another nana poopoo against her. But this is a post inresponse:

    I continue to be amazed at the outpouring of love for Mr. Obama without anyone checking facts. As a neighbor to his state of Illinois, you should be aware that there was a reason he only won 5 counties out of 115 in Missouri. We KNOW him tooo well! He raised BIG money for Senator McCaskill so she was indebted to him. Even with her support and the support of the Carnahans, we couldn’t cast our votes for him. Nominating another Liberal with no experience in economics or foreign policy is handing the election to the Republicans. I know Missouri, they will never give the state to someone who isn’t a moderate dem and a fiscal conservative. They see his proposal of $845 billion dollars for other countries as a joke. How can you propose giving away billions of our tax money to other countries when we are sliding into recession, borrowing billions from China, and sinking deeper into debt? Also, for the people who keep saying that the Clinton’s set up NAFTA – check your facts, I remember this around in the 1970’s.

  245. From WaPo:
    Lyndhurst, Ohio — Sen. Hillary Clinton has upped the imperative ante, countering Sen. Barack Obama’s call of “Yes, we can!” with “Yes, we will!”

    Sometimes a rallying cry is born on a whim. At a Democratic Party fundraiser in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, Clinton was on attack mode, criticizing Obama’s health care policy. “I believe that the Democratic nominee in 2008 has to stand firmly on universal health care,” she said. “My opponent has given up on the fight …”

    One of her supporters yelled out, “Yes, we can!” Sensing an opportunity, Clinton quickly retorted: “Yes, we will!”

    Clinton later brought that slogan to a packed rally of about 3,000 at Lyndhurst’s Charles F. Brush High School. Fighting off a cold, she touched on familiar issues during a 20-minute speech. She promised to change the tax code if she’s elected and told the crowd that there would be no jobs exported out of Ohio. She spoke of green-collar jobs, a reference to the country’s need to be more energy-efficient. After talking about health care, which she calls “a moral right,” she led the mostly young and boisterous crowd into chanting: “Yes, we will! Yes, we will! Yes, we will!”

  246. Max, I love what you wrote here. It has legs…IMO

    “My proposal is that we frame the dilhema as Hillary’s Choice. Hillary is in a position where she must make the choice. Swiftboating a Democratic candidate by a Democratic candidate cannot go unaddressed, however, she also cannot destroy her attackers because they are an integral part of the Democratic base.

    It is my hope that Hillary is able to reframe her dilhema. If she can work her magic and transform this Sophie’s Choice into a Solomon’s Choice for voters, she might be able staunch the bleeding and heal the party at the same time. It’s a delicate balance, but swiftboating cannot go unanswered. Voters need to see that she is absorbing the assault not ignoring it. They need to know that she’s doing it for the sake of the voters who are making, arguably, the most deeply personal decision for President that they will make in their lifetime.

  247. I am not sure what you meant about losing stuff in spacegirl’s spam filter, but i’m sorry if something i did made you lose your missive. See y’all later. And Wbboei..we’ll talk texas someday. I love it there. The south beaches are the most beautiful anywhere.

  248. Thanks Spacegirl. It’s a delicate position that requires nuance and skill to pull off, but if anyone can do it, it’s most certainly Hillary Clinton.

    Heh heh, re: spam filter. I seem to remember that you have mentioned a contentious relationship with the spam filter where you were having trouble getting posts to show up when you had attached links. I might be confusing you with someone else, though.

    (In the original post, that still hasn’t showed up, I tried to use tricky hypertext to get past the site’s aversion to http links, but I didn’t fool it one bit.)

  249. Lawrence O’Donnell is an (at times) insightful guy who is not now – nor has he ever been – in the Clinton’s corner.

  250. The Clintons took on the NRA, directly, and won – at least in the short term. They should be hitting BO on this – hard.

    From ABC:
    “Obama has been careful, throughout the campaign, to play down the issue of gun control, no doubt mindful that to do so would alienate many of the independent and Republican voters he is hoping to win over.

    In fact, in the speech Obama gave immediately after the Virginia Tech shootings last April, he never uttered the phrase “gun control.”
    Today Obama reiterated his support for tighter enforcement of laws already on the books – such as stronger background checks and enhancing programs to trace the provenance of guns used in crimes. He would also seek to close the loopholes that currently apply to firearms purchased at gun shows.

    But asked today about the DC handgun ban currently being reviewed by the US Supreme Court, Obama declined to take a position for or against its Constitutionality but did express broad support for the rights of local jurisdictions to make such decisions for themselves.

    Watch the VIDEO HERE.

    “The city of Chicago has gun laws, so does Washington, DC,” Obama said. “The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can’t initiate gun safety laws to deal with gangbangers and random shootings on the street isn’t born out by our Constitution.”

    Obama often boasts, in his stump speeches, that he would be a President who understands the Constitution because he has taught the Constitution. Today a reporter asked for his interpretation of the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, which gun owners often cite in their arguments against gun control.
    Obama said this: “There’s been a long standing argument by constitutional scholars about whether the second amendment referred simply to militias or it spoke to an individual right to possess arms. I think the latter is the better argument. There is an individual right to bear arms, but it is subject to common-sense regulation just like most of our rights are subject to common-sense regulation. So I think there’s a lot of room before you getting bumping against a constitutional barrier for us to institute some of the common-sense gun laws that I just spoke about.”

  251. I know MJ. It’s just that I’ve been listening to O’Donnell’s bullshit for years and wanted to rant – and no one else I know cares!

  252. Do all of you get Left, Right and Center on NPR? Well, tonight the “left” represented by Bob Shearer said something along the lines of Hillary Clinton was “just a wife” who didn’t distinguish herself by allowing her husband to make a mess out of the White House (subtext: Lewinsky) – OK, something like that, and I’ll have to get the transcripts or listen to the pod-cast, but I was unbelievably offended.

    Of course, Arianna Huffington was also on the show, and she said nothing, even though some could make the case about her own personal life.

    I can’t believe these men on the show, and just because it’s a left leaning show doesn’t mean commentators can’t be sexist – and the women (don’t care if it’s Arianna – miss Clinton hater herself) don’t stand up for themselves or other women. Unbelievable. I’m going to contact NOW about this, and where in the hell is the Media division of NOW to watchdog against this kind of sexism?

  253. mollyjrichards – (and anyone else calling WI voters), Hillary will be in De Pere (very near Green Bay) on Sunday.

    And from the Green Bay Press Gazette, it says there will be a Wausau event.


    # Clinton will host a town hall meeting in De Pere on Sunday afternoon. The event will be at Schuldes Sports Center on the St. Norbert College campus. The doors will open at 12:30 p.m., with the meeting from 2 to 4 p.m.


    # Clinton has stops planned for Milwaukee, Madison, Eau Claire, Wausau and Oshkosh. No additional details as of today.

  254. Also, for the people who keep saying that the Clinton’s set up NAFTA – check your facts, I remember this around in the 1970’s.

    Didn’t the GOP congress pass that with a veto-proof majority during Bill’s term?

  255. hi hillfans, checkin my hillary news and was estatic about the million calls made to voters in wisconsin, texas, and ohio. YAY!!!

  256. oh Hillary is going to Osgosh,Wi…its a cool town with the big jean factory.dont forget appelton to ..15 min away,
    you guys did loots,and loots of calls..
    GO Hillary!!!

  257. there is always a a damn bo supporter on all these websites that bill is on the comments time to hit em back..texan4hillary shall we sign up..and everyone post a coment to that goon//its Houston..

  258. I can see it now, RJK:

    “Obama turnaround: Zogby has Obama up by 15 in Ohio, 25 in Texas, 30 nationally”

    I seriously don’t understand how Zogby could have any credibility after his Super Tuesday debacle. I only really trust Rassmussen, Quinnipac and Survey USA–especally Survey USA, almost dead on for most states.

  259. Good morning Hillfans. I’m reading around the news and blogs and came across a comment that because Rezko’s trial doesn’t start until March 3rd, and the Texas elections are March 4th, there’s not much likelihood that it will have any impact because of the timing.

    Can those of you with Texas blog knowledge try to get the RezkoWatch link plastered in blogs, newspaper links, etc., as much as possible?

  260. mj,
    worse than that….he said “when she PERIODICALLY feels down…..” please that is about as transparent as it gets. Don’t let the woman in….whenever she’s on her period she’ll be a bitch.

  261. Admin,
    Tried sending you an email as requested re: volunteering in upcoming states but it bounced back so posting it here….

    Have tried to sign up through campaign web site but I’m not hearing back. I live in MA and can volunteer in Ohio the weekend before the primary. Will likely be driving (although may fly). If I drive, I can pick up people along the way (have mini-van and can seat anothre 5-6). I will get a hotel room so I won’t need accomodations. Need to know which area needs most help.

  262. Really cute “book” cover on politico..

    Barak Obama
    “The Paucity of Achievement”

    Get a Grip Folks, He Hasn’t Done Anything Yet

  263. Ann – I’ve got the out of state volunteer coordinator name and email and number if you need to find out what cities need help. Do you need? email me babyellen2008@gmail

  264. Ininla,
    Yes…thank you. Will email you right now. Sometimes my spam filter at work blocks emails to gmail accounts. Look for it now if you can and we’ll see if it goes through.

  265. Does anyone have a link to the Cleaver interview on NPR? I think this helps us a great deal, BTW. Know all will have to think twice about switching because they won’t want to be seen caving to bullying.












  267. wow and wow. the nyt is standing behind their lewis story??? lewis’ spokesperson is exprected to release another statement today regarding lewis’ sd vote.

  268. My thinking this a.m……media needs to start looking at this angle

    let’s see when do dems lose….when we lose the middle of the party –

    1952 and 1956 – Eisenhower creams Adlai Stevenson not once but twice in GE…..with the help of whom….middle of the road dems
    1972 – Nixon beats McGovern handily w/ help of national-security minded moderate dems
    1980 – Reagan bests Carter when middle of the road dems defect in large numbers
    1984 – Middle of the road dems stick with Reagan – result is a Mondale route
    1988 – Middle of the road dems still with Repubs supporting Bush 1 over very liberal Dukakis
    1992 – finally lunchbox dems come back to the party when a moderate dem runs – who other than Bill Clinton

    Anyone thinking same won’t happen here if we nominate Obama is not studying their history.

  269. has anyone heard of “bill and emily’s list” ? i’m seeing this referenced on a few blogs saying that they need to go off on obama and expose him. any info?

  270. nevermind… found it…

    their mission:

    EMILY’s List members are dedicated to building a progressive America by electing pro-choice Democratic women to office. We believe in the power of women as candidates, as contributors, as campaign professionals, and as voters to bring about great change in our country.

    When women are involved in the political process, our democracy is truly representative. When women make policy, the needs of women and families are not ignored. When women vote, Democrats — who share our values and priorities — win.

    EMILY’s List is committed to a three-pronged strategy to elect pro-choice Democratic women: recruiting and funding viable women candidates; helping them build and run effective campaign organizations; and mobilizing women voters to help elect progressive candidates across the nation.

    EMILY’s List will win today and build for tomorrow. Our immediate focus is to win elections to turn back the Bush Republicans and their right-wing agenda. At the same time, we are making a long-term investment in women to develop their political skills and cultivate resources so that we can bring more women into politics and elected office. Only then can we build a progressive majority and construct a society built around equal opportunity for all, civil rights, diversity, and compassion.

    By working together, we can make a difference — and change the face of American politics.

  271. Emily’s List and others need to call him on the “PERIODICALLY DOWN” comment yesterday….talk about code words to his male base!

  272. divabunny said ” wow and wow. the nyt is standing behind their lewis story?”

    Kindly explain. I missed the NYT story

  273. Mccain on Obama’s pledge about public financing:

    “It was very clear to me that Senator Obama had agreed to having public financing of the general election campaign if I did the same thing,” Mr. McCain said after a town-hall-style meeting here. “I made the commitment to the American people that if I was the nominee of my party, I would go the route of public financing. I expect Senator Obama to keep his word to the American people as well.”

  274. @laney: here’s the link:

    basically the nyt’s reporter that broke the lewis story abt him switching his sd vote from hrc to bho bc thats the way his district voted is sticking by his story AFTER lewis’ official spokeswoman said yesterday that lewis wasnt changing his vote to bho and that he wanted to leave his options open.

    the reporter is quoting lewis as saying:

    “When I talked to Congressman Lewis last night, he said, “look, the voters in his district on Super Tuesday in Georgia overwhelmingly supported the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama. And he said he would quote, “never ever do anything to go against the action of them.” So he says, if this comes down to be a super-delegate vote — which he hopes and believes it will not — that he will support Senator Obama. But even more than that, he says he’s concerned about this campaign going into a long fight to the convention. He said it would be damaging to Senator Obama and to Senator Clinton. And he said unequivocally that he would cast his vote for Senator Obama.”

  275. zcflint09, the only polls that you should trust are SurveyUSA, Quinnepec. DON’T even look at Rass even though Hillary might be leading by 40. He to is another Zogby. He had her loosing both California and NJ too. So, I will say right now, SurveyUSA is the poll to go by.

  276. OBAMA THE CHANGE AGENT Obama said he goofed on votes angered fellow Democrats in the Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago’s West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed! Also announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6. The next day, he acknowledged voting “present” on a key telecommunications vote. He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. “I pressed the wrong button on that,” he said. Obama was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. “I pressed the wrong button by accident,” he said. But two of Obama’s bumbles came on more-sensitive topics, he backed legislation to permit riverboat casinos to operate even when the boats were dockside. The measure, pushed by the gambling industry and fought by church groups whose support Obama was seeking, passed with two “yeas” to spare — including Obama’s. Moments after its passage he rose to say, explaining that he had mistakenly voted for it. Obama would later develop a reputation as a critic of the gambling industry, and he voted against a similar measure two years later. But he was clearly confused about how to handle the issue at the time of his first vote, telling a church group that he was “undecided” about whether he backed an expansion of riverboat gambling. And, months earlier, he had voted in favor of a version of the bill. Obama’s vote sparked a confrontation after he joined Republicans to block Democrats trying to override a veto by GOP Gov. George Ryan of a $2-million allotment for the west Chicago child welfare office. being responsible,” said Sen. Rickey Hendon, accusing Obama of voting to close the child welfare office.Obama replied “I understand Sen. Hendon’s anger, I was not aware that I had voted no on that piece of legislation.

  277. Emjay, to answer your question from yesterday, to post a comment, all you have to do is go to the Comments link at the end of each article. I do have comments in moderation now due to Obamabot nastiness. As soon as I check the ‘in-coming’, I post valid comments, just as admin does here.

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