Valentines Day In Ohio

It’s Valentines Day. Hillary will be in the most crucial state of the last election – OHIO. This November Democrats must win Ohio – not lose it.

Once again in 2008 Ohio will be crucial for Democrats. Ohio votes on March 4, 2008. This time we need a fighter who will not be swiftboated and someone who has been throughly vetted.

Hillary will be in Columbus, Ohio today. Give Hillary some love, Ohio. The event with Hillary will begin at 6:00 p.m. Doors open at 4:30 p.m. (EST).

The event will be at the French Field House, 410 Woody Hayes Drive, Columbus, Ohion 43201. Map HERE.

Also, meet the first American in outer space to orbit earth – Senator John Glenn.

Those wishing to help with the event should go to the front door of the French Field House at 2:30 p.m (be prepared to volunteer from 2:30 – 7:00 p.m.) RSVP and information at Hillary Clinton – Columbus.

Volunteer in Ohio information HERE.

Hillary will also be in Lyndhurst, Ohio on Friday, February 15, 2008 at 4:00 p.m. – 7:00 p.m.

Astronaut and Senator John Glenn endorsed Hillary:

“With all of the challenges facing Ohio and America, we need a leader who can deliver real solutions on her first day in office,” Glenn said in a statement released by Clinton’s campaign.

“Hillary Clinton will immediately go to work turning around our economy and rebuilding the middle class. She has the strength and experience to take on the Republicans in November and win Ohio and the White House.”

In 1962, Glenn, a Marine pilot, was the first American to orbit the Earth, becoming an instant national hero. In 1998, shortly before retiring from Senate after 24 years, he became the world’s oldest astronaut, returning to space aboard the Shuttle Discovery at age 77.

The Columbus Dispatch endorsed Hillary:

The next president will face a mountain of challenges, including reining in deficit spending, managing U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, controlling illegal immigration and restraining the spiraling costs of Medicare and Social Security. And that’s just the start.

The 44th president should have a strong resume of government experience. When the nation’s voters go to the polls in November to choose that leader, the major-party candidates should be those who require the least on-the-job training. Of the contenders remaining in the Republican and Democratic races, the most experienced are Republican Sen. John McCain and Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton. [snip]

Clinton’s background also features years of public service. She has been in the Senate since 2001, winning election in New York as she was reaching the end of her time as the nation’s first lady. In addition to what sometimes was characterized as a co-presidency with her husband, during his two terms in office, she was first lady in Arkansas for 12 years.

She hopes to become the first woman to win a major-party presidential nomination. While her husband was president, she was one of the most politically involved first ladies in U.S. history. Her activism on a variety of issues earned her the kind of loyalty and opposition usually reserved for presidents.

In the Senate, Clinton serves on the Armed Services, Environmental and Public Works, Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committees as well as the Senate’s Special Committee on Aging.

Her opponent, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, has mounted an impressive campaign for the nomination, but Obama, who was an Illinois state senator before his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, lacks his rival’s experience.

Unlike some years, this year Ohio will be not be an afterthought in the presidential primaries. Though McCain’s lead is substantial, the Democratic race remains very close, so the Ohio vote on March 4 could be decisive.

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  1. It is time to remind Democrats in the States which are yet to hold their primaries, that not to nominate Hillary Clinton is equivalent to voting for the Republicans. No matter how weak the Republican nominee it takes Hillary’s strength to win.

  2. From today’s NYT: Mrs. Clinton’s advisers, after some discussion about whether to focus exclusively on Ohio and Texas for the next three weeks, finally decided to send her for three days this week to Wisconsin, which votes next Tuesday.

  3. Where have we heard THIS phrase before?

    ““We don’t think our lead will drop below 100 delegates,” David Plouffe, Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, said in an interview. “The math is the math.”

    from the same NYT article

  4. I am reposting this article of Joe Conason because it is important that MSM focus on this.Repug attacks on BO would be much harder than this. This is just a sample. Repugs are not going to disclose all the dirt that they have on BO till he gets the nomination because they want Democrats to commit the blunder of this century nominating BO.

    Joe Conason: New York Observer: (All we feared) – REZKO

    What’s Waiting for Obama
    By Joe Conason

    For the next month or so, the conservative valentines will arrive every day at the headquarters of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. The Illinois senator’s image will be illuminated by the bipartisan aura of admiration from prominent Republican commentators and strategists, as they savor the promise of his victory over Hillary Clinton, long the object of their hatred. He may well imagine that they really like him — and surely some of them do, at least for now.

    Such happy feelings are easily conjured these days, when William Kristol hopes Democratic superdelegates will do “the good deed” of pledging their ballots to Obama, when George Will urges Democrats to choose Obama as “the party’s most potentially potent nominee,” and when Peggy Noonan promises that Obama will be “bulletproof” against Republican attack.

    Meanwhile, in the bleaker precincts of the blogosphere, lesser figures prepare to welcome the Democratic front-runner should he secure his party’s nomination. Evidently, they will celebrate his triumph with poison gas and bombshells rather than confetti and champagne.

    If you listen closely, you can already hear the test rounds exploding.

    The target is Obama’s favorable but hazy persona, which Republican operatives must redefine in negative and even threatening terms. Assuming that the Republican nominee will be Sen. John McCain, they will aim to contrast his tough, aggressive stance against Islamist terrorism with his opponent’s alleged weakness and naivety. But as usual, they will do worse, spreading slurs and smears that depict Obama as a dupe or even a sympathizer of Islamic radicals.

    False accusations about Obama’s religious affiliation have surfaced in anonymous e-mail campaigns, with little impact so far. But the easily denied charges about his supposed Muslim upbringing are gradually giving way to more concrete allegations. The latest round involves his political intervention in Kenya, the home of his late father, where violence between ethnic and partisan factions has erupted in the wake of a disputed presidential election.

    As usual, the right-wing narrative melds half-truths and lies with facts to create a seamless indictment.

    Leading conservative blogs and publications charge that Obama recklessly aligned himself with opposition leader Raila Odinga of the Orange Democratic Movement. Followers of Odinga, a member of the minority Luo tribe, have perpetrated horrific atrocities against members of the Kikuyu tribe because incumbent president Mwai Kibaki and the nation’s ruling elite are Kikuyu. One of the worst incidents occurred in the village of Eldoret, where dozens of Kikuyu Christians burned to death when they sought shelter in a church that was then set afire by their rampaging pursuers.

    These events are set within the broader story line of an alleged Muslim plot to overthrow the Kibaki government, which is friendly to the United States and the West, and replace the secular constitution of Kenya with sharia law, creating a haven for al-Qaida — which blew up the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi a decade ago and still operates there, according to American diplomats. During the Kenyan election, the Christian evangelical movement in Kenya circulated a “memorandum of understanding” allegedly signed by Odinga and a group of Muslim clerics that would commit his government to instituting Muslim strictures against pork and alcohol, setting up sharia courts and ending cooperation against terrorism with Western governments.

    Denounced as a forgery by Odinga and Muslim authorities in Kenya, which it almost certainly is, that document nevertheless still circulates via the Internet and is quoted by American publications. The point is to raise questions about Obama and his connections with Odinga — who claims to be his cousin — and to infiltrate those doubts into the mainstream media.

    It is true that Obama, whose family is Luo, lent support to the opposition leader during a visit to Kenya two years ago — and that they have maintained contact ever since. While that gaffe infuriated the Kibaki regime, it proved only that Obama lacked diplomatic expertise. During the current crisis in his homeland, he has tried to play a constructive role by taping radio announcements for the State Department that urge both sides to stop fighting and resolve their differences without violence.

    Yet the outlines of the coming assault on his fitness and character are clear enough, just as the Swift Boat campaign against John Kerry opened fire many months before the public noticed. The Kenya tale is a single aspect of a multifaceted strategy to portray Obama as a callow politician with dubious associations, who cannot be trusted with power. He will be subjected to the same ruthless treatment as the last Democratic nominee. Let’s hope he is better armored to withstand the incoming fire.

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/02/whats_waiting_for_obama.html

  5. My heart is in my throat. I want Hillary to win all three states plus Wisconsin so badly. Please everyone in Ohio, Texas, and Pennsylvania–please volunteer and help. I wish I could travel, I would go myself. I voted for her in Florida which it seems is not going to be counted. I have given money and will give more. I wish I could do something else. This is so important. Go Hillary!!!!

  6. Here’s one test round:

    Obama takes hit on economic policy
    Campaign’s a ripoff of Clinton’s, her supporters, McCain adviser maintains

    February 14, 2008
    BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter/apallasch@suntimes.com

    White House hopeful Barack Obama’s economic platform set off a three-way fight Wednesday as aides to Republican John McCain and Democrat Hillary Clinton accused Obama of stealing Clinton’s ideas.

    Obama fired back that McCain lacks economic know-how.

    “Obama’s plan today is the most shameless piece of potential plagiarism that I have ever seen,” McCain economic advisor Kevin Hassett said. The Clinton campaign helpfully e-mailed his comments to reporters.

    “He basically took Clinton’s words and Clinton’s policies and called them his own,” Hassett said. “If I were a professor I’d give him an F and try to get him kicked out of school for something this terrible … I remember Mrs. Clinton saying shared prosperity and I remember the bill that she introduced in August for infrastructure. The fact is these are things Obama has taken as his own without crediting the source of the ideas which was Mrs. Clinton.”

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/794128,CST-NWS-campweb14.article

  7. Let McCain vet him..we won’t have to. McCain has got to do something the next 3 weeks. Obama has a big bullseye on his back. He and his team say they are unstoppable and got it all wrapped up.

    He will be defined one way or the other. McCain has got to talk about something and since it looks like Obama is “the one”…have at it. I love it myself.

  8. ClintonDem….I am glad to see this out there in print. Not that the MSM will pick up on it until it is too late to make a difference. Rovian tactics are SO all over this campaign it is frightening.

    I was very suspicious when Rove chose Arkansas, of all places, to install his completely unqualified buddy for the US Atty position, and then went there himself when he left the WH.

    I am sure there was some nefarious reason as it related to HRC. It never occurred to me that they would be working the backside as well, with the either sinister or foolishly duped complicity of BO.

    This will be a slaughter for BOO, should he get the nomination, and I already receive emails from my radically hateful conservative “friends” on all the stuff this article mentions. And they are just warming up.

    I SO WISH the Clinton Camp would start getting tougher on his record, and maybe we could avoid all this “new kind of politics” Obama promises to bring to America. Thanks for the post. I am off to work now.

  9. dot48,

    agreed. Just watch MSM hang on McCain’s every word while dismissing Hillary. After all, McCain is a man so he must know what he is talking about.

    ON a positive note, Im going to meet HRC at a Boston fundraiser on 2/24! I cant wait to shake her hand (again) and tell her what an inspiration she is.

  10. Ronald, you lucky dog! I would do anything to meet her. As a disenfranchised Florida voter, I feel so rotten that I have not had that opportunity.

    All I can do now is support her with the little money I have, blog like hell out there, make calls and pray.

    Shake her hand for me too, please. She is my first real-life hero. Thanks 🙂

  11. I will tell her SpacegirlArt sends her warm love and adulation from the sadly estranged state of Florida.

    BTW… she is incredibly genuine and charming in real life. She came into the phone bank in Boston on her way to NY for the Letterman show. She shook everyone’s hand and looked everyone in the eye and answered everyone’s questions- intelligently.

    It so different with BO. Whenever I hear him speak I feel like he thinks Im stupid. He is so incredibly patronizing. Am I the only one who sees that???

  12. Vote for Hillary! An intelligent woman who respects your intelligence.

    Solutions not Platitudes.

    Answers not Rhetoric

    Original thinking not copycat policies

  13. brains not beauty

    Democratic Principles not mindless unity

    solutions not promises

    seriousness not disingenuousness

    specifics not speeches

  14. Dear All,

    as I am not a US citizen I am learning many things since I am following the primaries on this blogg.

    One thing is sure: I do not wonder why there are not so many democrats who made it to president.

    The rules of the DNC make the whole primary process undemocratic and unefficient and hurt either candidate:

    I can really not understand the caucus system where within a few hours peoeple have to show up and stand the post? Basically intimidating people to cast their real vote (because they might be afraid of husband, neighbours etc.) and leaving many peoeple out as they can not find this time to stand there?

    I can also not understand that in may states independents and republicans can vote for a democratic candidate. I think it is very clear that the 8% republican vote in VA is more an avoiding Hillary than a pro Obama vote. Can the DNC not see this? Are they blind or do they really not want to win the GE?

    From what I am reading here it seems quite obvious that IF Hillary looses Texas, it will be exactly for the non-democratic voters.

    And while MC Cain can start a GE campaign the DNC does not seat Florida and Michigan delegates which will cost them the GE in any case.

    Maybe I am wrong, but it will be hard work to clean this mess up when there is finally Hillary the nominee.

  15. experience not naivity

    knowledge not cross your fingers and hoping for the best

    accomplishments not the promise to accomplish… something

    a track record not a hidden record

  16. Obama the plagiarist hoodwinks and bamboozles he becomes Malcom in SC and becomes Edwards in Wisconsin. The only thing that you can be sure about him is that he is an authentic fake.

  17. European, I think many of us Americans were also unaware of the election laws in our own country.

    Now that people know, maybe something can be done about it. But it’s complicated and difficult, given that most election law is set by the individual states.

    In Florida, for example, the Republican legislature moved the primary date up deliberately, knowing that the DNC didn’t want that done and that it would cause trouble for Florida Democrats. (Unfortunately, the DNC seems to be falling right into the trap.)

  18. This from a recent news search…

    Ohio

    Clinton, a U.S. senator from New York and former first lady, led Obama 55 percent to 34 percent, in a poll released Thursday by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

  19. I hope the campaign see this article, the strategy does concern me, but seems like they are getting it together now.

    From the NYT:

    “Knocked Off Balance, Clinton Campaign Tries to Regain Its Stride”

  20. European, The original intent of Super delegates is to neutalize the kind of problems you are talking about. They are supposed use their judgement to correct undue influence of Republicans trying to disrupt the result.

  21. This may come off as a stupid question but is Bill Clinton a superdelegate? I don’t see why he can’t be one but Al Gore is?

  22. The New York Post says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) is considering endorsing Sen. Barack Obama.

    According to aides, “she’s weighing whether a public endorsement would harm her ability to function in her job.”

  23. Mark McKinnon, a top adviser to Sen. John McCain, reiterated his earlier pledge “that he will step down from the Arizona senator’s presidential campaign if the presumed GOP nominee faces Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in the general election,” ABC News reports.

    Said McKinnon: “I would simply be uncomfortable being in a campaign that would be inevitably attacking Barack Obama. I think it would be uncomfortable for me, and I think it would be bad for the McCain campaign.”

  24. Said McKinnon: “I would simply be uncomfortable being in a campaign that would be inevitably attacking Barack Obama. I think it would be uncomfortable for me, and I think it would be bad for the McCain campaign.”

    WTF?! What the hell does that mean? They are running a campaign. Is McKinnon AA?

  25. Hmm. He’s switched sides once before:

    “McKinnon, who worked only for Democratic candidates before signing on with Bush in 1997…”

  26. Unfathomable that Polosi would even consider endorsing at this point in her position. Too, I hope all women voters are taking note of the female politicians who will not support a fellow female within their own party. Women, and I’m one, can be so (blank) stupid.

  27. It is looking more and more like Hillary’s campaign braintrust was only preparing for Super Tuesday. I hope Maggie can bring some energy and kick their butts into shape….oy, what am I talking about, this is the woman who puts gunpowder in her cereal! Go Maggie!

  28. Idunn, He is no aa but he is a Democrat who worked on Bush campaign as the Ad maker according to Abc Political radar.

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/mccain-adviser.html

  29. Mei quoted: According to aides, “she’s (Pelosi) weighing whether a public endorsement would harm her ability to function in her job.”

    LOL, she’s weighing whether she’ll automatically lose her leadership position if she backs a loser. I think that House Democrats should let her know in no uncertain terms, that “Yes, indeed, she will be losing her leadership position should she decide to endorse a candidate.”

  30. I don’t under stand why the hell ANYONE of a campaign would have issues going after an opposing candidate? That’s how the game is played, for chrissake. Does McKinnon think Obama is the second coming of christ too, and therefore he must be “hands off”? What in the hell is going on here?!

  31. I saw this article in today’s NYT’s about HRC’s strategy for moving forward. Not for those who want only postive news, still, it does highlight some of the steps that can be taken to challenge BO’s delegate lead.

    A good overview of her new direction. I post this because I subscribe to the the idea that a problem can be fixed if it’s recognized.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/us/politics/14clinton.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ei=5088&en=e2bffe5462ae07ef&ex=1360731600&partner=msnbcpolitics&emc=rss

  32. Hmmm…I wonder if they ferretted out a mole in the McCain camp. This is all way too strange. The one thing I know now after reading what McCain put out is that the country would, indeed, be well served by a McCain vs. Clinton General Election.

    I’m sure I’ll change my mind when things get going, but if the man has the wisdom to show contempt for Obambi, he can’t be ALL bad. It’ll be work to win against him, but, wow, how refreshing it would be not to be horrified by the prospect of losing.

    All I can say is, “Thank God for Ghouliani.” I think he really took the wingnuts for a ride to the cleaners. He’s probably the reason they’re in such disarray. Huckster or McCain…good for us, sux for them.

  33. I’ve just posted a comment over at TM regarding the interview I heard last night on NPR’s All Things Considered. Actually, my husband heard it on his drive home and told me to listen to it. It is Michelle Norris interviewing Mark McKinnon, a senior adviser to McCain. The clip is about 4 minutes long. The interesting thing about the interview was McKinnon stating that if Obama was the Democratic nominee, he would not work on the McCain campaign in the GE. He made reference to a confidential memo to the McCain campaign when he came on board and also talked about these comments in a magazine called the Texas Monthly. He said he met Obama, read his books and could not take part in a campaign that will inevitably attack him. Does anyone know what this is about? I am very curious.

  34. basil, I read that earlier this morning. I am confounded that Obambi had a better “organization”. It is very disturbing, but I too subscribe to the idea that a problem can be fixed if it’s recognized. Hillary needs to fight for Wisconsin and pick congressional districts in other states where she can be competitive and pickup delegates. I think Ohio and Texas will swing big for her, but I just don’t think that should be the only prize.

  35. OOPs – as I’m off to court this morning I didn’t read all the posts and see that there is already a discussion. Will catch up this afternoon!

  36. Oh god, Patrick Healy and Kit Seelye.

    I tend to disbelieve anything the NYTimes prints about the Clintons.

    They are at least going to present any information in an unfavorable light.

  37. Does anyone know whether Kennedy and/or Kerry will campaign for BHO in OH, TX, and PA? Could we be that lucky? I hope so.

    It seems I read some place where Hillary told BHO she had breathed a sigh of relief when Kennedy endorsed him. I hope that’s true. It’s very funny.

    Please ignore this old “Big News” garbage, but I look for help wherever it may be found. LOL

  38. Yesterday in the States: In Wisconsin, the campaign opened new offices in Green Bay, La Crosse, Madison and Milwaukee and named Wisconsin native Teresa Vilmain State Director . In Ohio, the campaign announced its Leadership Council, made up of more than 100 elected officials and community leaders from across the state. In Texas, the campaign unveiled a new web page.

  39. The Clinton campaign is fine. Step back a minute. Just look at the timing of the Solis-Doyle news. It came at the beginning of a news cycle not as a Friday night dump before a weekend that the campaign had to know wasn’t going to go well for them.

    The news could have been buried if they wanted it to be. The timing of the deputy’s resignation also came at a time when the narrative needed to shift. This looks more like a campaign seizing control of the media more than it does of a campaign in disarray.

    I don’t know about anybody else, but I feel more energized and electric about the campaign and we’re still not even over the hump yet. I like the news out of WI, a win or a close loss will do wonders for morale.

    There’s no reason to believe that BHO will be able to get over the huge hurdle of appealing to the Democratic base. No matter how the media try, they won’t be able to break the superdelegates who know exactly what to look for in a nominee. That’s why they’re superdelegates…and it’s all within the rules. These people are professional politicians, and if Obama is not reaching the people who voted for them, then he’s got real problems. They know full well who their constituents are and it’s not the “Democrats for a Day.”

  40. Not to stir the pot, but TIme’s The Page is reporting that the Obama campaign is announcing a “major national endorsement” in their noon (ET) press conference.

    thepage.time.com/

    Any chance it could just be an SEIU endorsement?

  41. I was looking at SurveyUSA website. Their polls have the best median error of all polls so far (according to their statistics, which I do not see information on where they derive their data and as such must be recognized). Still, they are at +-2 median error. Their Ohio poll has Hillary up by +17.

  42. First off: “McCain lacks economic know-how?” OMG! This coming from a man who knows even less about the economy and has to steal talking points from Hillary over and over again?

    Secondly: If I were McCain, I would fire McKinnon on the spot. How on earth can he trust this guy if he’s in what’s-his-name’s pocket???

    Thirdly: Pelosi’s track record is so weak that if she does support him who cares. Shame on her for even considering it!

    Finally: Thanks Ronald for the pep talk!!! 🙂

  43. KAFFEEN,

    “Obambi is now proclaiming he is ready to debate McCain.”

    LOL…and we all know what a great debater he has been so far….NOT!!!!!!!!!! 😉

  44. I LOVE the fact that Hillary went straight to the people. Now, all she has to do is have an amazing GOTV in TX as overall AA are usually more motivated to vote.

    **As I was turning the tv to Disney ch 40, I happened to pause on MessMSNC ch 41 this morning- on Morning Joke, I heard Andrea Mitchell ask Chukie about Hillary’s chances in TX- she said, paraphrasing- I saw that she had a good reception in TX and she seemed pumped up but isn’t there a chance that TX might not work out for her? Chuckie: Well, a lot of people think that because TX has a large Hispanic population that it would go for her but what they forget is that they equally have a large AA population and places like Dallas, Houston along with their quirky primary/caucus system, it could not work out for her.

    What a retard! Anyone worth their salt and who has a minute to do the research would know that Tx Latino population dwarfs the AA population. This is why it is not good for your mental health to trust the media and/or listen to anyone on MessMSNBC! BTW, Andrea had a nice little smirk/smile on her face when she asked that question.

    CNN:
    Watched it for 5mins last night, John King did some analysis on his light up board and said that if either Sen. Clinton or Obama were to win all of the upcoming races with a 60 or 70% margin, none of them would be able to get to the magic # of 2025 delegates.

    That’s where we are, so perception and late wins of these 3 large states will play an important role and then the superdelegates. clinton has got to win Tx and Oh. If she does that, I think that she can carry PA.
    tiburones | 02.14.2008 – 10:05 am | #

  45. Chelsea Clinton Goes to Hawaii

    Clinton’s daughter to spend three days, including this weekend, on Obama’s home turf — campaigning in Oahu and Honolulu — leading up to Tuesday’s primary.

    thepage.time.com/2008/02/13/chelsea-clinton-goes-to-hawaii/

  46. I found this while googling some things…..I think the person who wrote it could be a tin hat for the opposition (based on some of his comments and sources), but it gives a good idea of what the opposition will use against Obama (and is actually an interesting read)….

    02/14/2008
    It’s Time For The Media To Look At Obama’s Record, Associates
    By Herb Denenberg , The Bulletin

    The mainstream media has already canonized, deified and elected Sen. Barack Obama to the presidency of the United States. They’ve gone to a thesaurus and coughed up every adjective in the language to praise him. They’ve told us everything we don’t need to know and nothing about what we need to know. They’ve gushed on and on, omitting only his record and his associates.

    So let’s fill in a few of the blanks and connect the dots. First, you have to remember that Mr. Obama is nothing close to a moderate. He is a hard-left, extremist liberal that dances to the every musical note of the Democratic Party line. What’s more, his associates are of the same ilk, with extremists in key positions. This is not just my opinion, but inconvenient facts that have been echoed by virtually every observer who has taken the time to examine the man’s record.

    Amanda B. Carpenter, a former editor at Human Events, summarized his record perfectly: “While Obama has a knack for portraying himself as an even-handed politician, who is inspired by traditional religious values, he has earned 100 percent ratings from Americans for Democratic Action, Naral Pro-Choice America, the National Organization for Women, the NAACP and the NEA.” To score 100 percent with all five of those groups you have to be on the extremist edge of the Democratic Party. And he is clearly a phony on major issues. Ms. Carpenter notes on the Illinois Senate vote on banning partial-birth abortion, he voted “present.” In other words, he didn’t want to vote against the ban but didn’t want to vote for it. So he didn’t vote by being present but not voting. His oratory flows with principles, but his voting record is devoid of them. His voting record is a profile in hedging his bets, not in courage. (If you want more on Mr. Obama, get the free publication of Human Events, “Barack Exposed!”)

    And here’s what the highly respected National Journal had to say: “Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal’s 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.” This suggests Mr. Obama abandoned principles with his run for the presidency and shifted to the left to please the far-left voters in Democratic primaries.

    When you show up as more liberal than Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Kerry, look out. Remember, as this column and others have documented, the extreme left of the Democratic Party is allied with anti-American types such as George Soros, with those with anti-American-values and with those who lack the will to defend America against its enemies.

    Here’s a summary of Mr. Obama’s record by the National Journal: “Overall in NJ’s 2007 ratings, Obama voted the liberal position on 65 of the 66 key votes on which he voted; Clinton voted the liberal position 77 of 82 times. Obama garnered perfect liberal scores in both the economic and social categories. His score in the foreign-policy category was nearly perfect, pulled down a notch by the only conservative vote that he cast in the ratings, on a Republican-sponsored resolution expressing the sense of Congress that funding should not be cut off for U.S. troops in harm’s way. The Senate passed the resolution 82-16 with the support of both Obama and Clinton.”

    Then there is his lack of experience, which is even more frightening, as it means we’d be having amateur night at the White House right in the middle of a war against Islamofascism along with all kinds of severe domestic and other foreign policy problems. The man has no experience and no record.

    Dramatic proof of his record came home when Fox News pollster Frank Luntz asked a focus group on live television a simple question: You’re for Mr. Obama, so tell me about one of his accomplishments. Not one in the group had any to offer, not a single one. He has supporters who are obviously willing to buy the proverbial cat in the bag or pig in the poke. Sean Hannity saw this focus group in action. So the next time Mr. Luntz had assembled another focus group of Democrats with many Obama supporters, he asked Mr. Luntz to try the same question. Again, no one in the group could name a single accomplishment of Mr. Obama. He’s been in the U.S. Senate for about two years and in the Illinois Senate for eight, and he had a career before that, but his supporters can’t even hint at even one achievement, legislative or otherwise. (And note, he really has no U.S. Senate experience to speak of, as most of his time there has been spent running for the presidency.)

    Then, I saw one of his supporters – a congressman from Virginia, Bobby Scott – being interviewed. The interviewer noted that the voters couldn’t name a single achievement of Mr. Obama, but surely someone in the political arena could. The congressman made a feeble effort to suggest accomplishments but finally fell back on the platitudes and slogans that are Mr. Obama’s stock and trade. The congressman said things like “he will bring us together,” and “he will get things done.” Unfortunately, neither Mr. Obama nor his supporters can tell us what happens after we’re all brought together, or how he’ll bring us together in the first place. By like token, they can tell us Mr. Obama means change but know little or nothing about what, if anything, will be changed.

    I’m sitting here on the night of the Chesapeake primaries (Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia), with Mr. Obama becoming the clear frontrunner, with enough momentum to perhaps carry him to the Democratic nomination. Even at this late date, his adoring supporters seem to know nothing about what he stands for or who he is.

    Those supporters and the media better stop fawning over Mr. Obama, and start talking about what he stands for and where he is coming from on important matters, because if they wait until after he is nominated and elected, I suspect they are in for major surprises.

    As already noted, the mainstream media is virtually ignoring his record while heaping boundless praise on him with every edition. Only political columnist Joe Klein started making some sensible noise about Mr. Obama in a recent issue of Time (Feb. 18): “Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause – other than an amorphous desire for change – the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is.”

    Mr. Klein noted an element of the messiah and savior about Mr. Obama’s positioning: “And yet there was something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism – ‘We are the ones we’ve been waiting for’ – of the Super Tuesday speech and the recent turn of the Obama campaign. ‘This time can be different because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different. It’s different not because of me. It’s different because of you.’ This is not just maddeningly vague but also disingenuous: The campaign is entirely about Obama and his ability to inspire.”

    I’ll tell you why the campaign is different. Because the media and the voters, at least thus far, are letting someone come dangerously close to the Democratic Party nomination based on a trail of hot air and almost silly platitudes. No one wants to say that, because it may not be politically correct. But then I came across someone who is not universally loved but should be listened to on occasion. That’s because she has the ability to call it like it is, unfettered by the politically correct.

    I’m talking about Ann Coulter. Only she could put it so bluntly, yet in my view so truthfully. She wrote, “Only white guilt could explain the insanely hyperbolic description of Obama’s ‘eloquence.’ His speeches are a run-on string of embarrassing sophomoric Hallmark bromides.”

    She actually starts to ask questions about the meaning of his gaseous emissions: “He took a strong stand against the anti-hope crowd, saying, ‘There are those who don’t believe in talking about hope.’ Take that, Hillary!” After we all get together and sit around and hope, what’s Mr. Obama’s second act? No one knows, and that probably includes Mr. Obama. All we know is that he may introduce legislation establishing a national day of hope. I hope not.

    And here’s another look beyond the surface of Mr. Obama’s oratory. Ms. Coulter writes, “Most weirdly, he said: ‘I recognize there is a certain presumptuousness in this – a certain audacity – in this announcement.’ What is so audacious about announcing that you’re running for president? Any idiot can run for president. Dennis Kucinich is running for president. Until he was imprisoned, Lyndon LaRouche used to run for president constantly. John Kerry ran for president. Today, all you have to do is suggest a date by which U.S. forces in Iraq should surrender, and you’re officially a Democratic candidate for president.”

    The total lack of the experience and background that should be demanded of any would-be president makes his parade of platitudes and his filling the halls with Hallmark slogans more concerning. If he had a record of many years of public service and solid accomplishments, we wouldn’t be so disturbed by hearing only glittering generalities. But most know nothing of Mr. Obama, so they might appreciate him actually saying something and discussing concrete ideas.

    I keep listening for him to say something, and I just keep getting that standard pep talk, with a few new wrinkles. But it all adds up to sound and fury – producing nothing but the cue for the applause of the uninformed and unquestioning Obama supporters.

    As I listened to his victory speech after the Chesapeake primaries, he went on and on about change, about the American dream, about how we can do it, about hope, about not just listening to Wall Street but listening to Main Street, about the Bush tax cuts for the rich, about the war that should have never been authorized or waged, about his teenage mother and about being fired up and ready to go. But where’s he going, and where is he taking us?

    And then there is the matter of his associates. I’ve previously written about his closest advisor and pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who seems to be a bigot, a racist and an anti-American, painting the U.S. as a most evil society. Rev. Wright also associates closely with one of the big-time bigots and racists, Minister Louis Farrakhan. Do birds of a feather flock together? See my earlier columns on The Bulletin’s Web site: “Media Doesn’t Give Us Obama’s Real Character” (Jan. 8) and “The Company Obama Keeps Says A Lot About Him” (Feb. 6).

    This Rev. Wright gave his (and Mr. Obama’s) church’s highest honor to Louis Farrakhan, a well-known racist and bigot. When questioned about the matter, Mr. Obama said, “I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan.” Mr. Obama then also condemned his church’s award to Mr. Farrakhan and his minister’s close relationship with him. But Debbie Schlussel, an investigative reporter in Detroit, reports that despite Sen. Obama’s attempt to distance himself from Mr. Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam, he still “employed and continues to employ several Farrakhan acolytes in high positions on his Illinois and U.S. Senate campaign and office staffs.”

    Ms. Schlussel writes, “But it’s not just that he employed these individuals in positions of power in his office. It’s that when the former associate raised objections, he says Mr. Obama’s position was that he saw nothing wrong with the Nation of Islam and didn’t think it was a problem. If true – and the fact that Ms. Mason [another of the above-described Nation of Islam employees] still holds her prominent position bears that out – Obama’s condemnation of Farrakhan, this month, is phony.”

    Ms. Schlussel also reported that Mr. Obama’s Illinois state Senate district contains prime Nation of Islam territory. She says it is not possible to win in that district without the Nation of Islam’s blessing. Nation of Islam members held prominent positions in Mr. Obama’s state Senate campaign, consultant Skakir Muhammed among them.

    There’s a great deal of other material raising questions about Mr. Obama’s close associates and advisors. For example, Robert Malley, a principal Obama foreign-policy adviser, has written articles with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority leader Yasser Arafat, and has called for negotiations with and aid for Hamas, a terrorist organization. Mr. Malley has also blamed Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in 2000. This is refuted by all the key players in those negotiations, including former President Bill Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and the then-primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East, Dennis Ross. Other top Obama foreign-policy advisors seem to take the same kind of pro-terrorist and anti-Israel positions. Other key advisors raising concern include Samantha Powers and Zbiginew Brzezinski. The latter was a key to fashioning Jimmy Carter’s disastrous foreign policy, and should be enough to scare off supporters. Mr. Obama’s foreign policy experience is thin enough, but with Mr. Brzezinski on board, a disaster would be inevitable.

    I have said there are too many unanswered questions about Mr. Obama to take him seriously. Surely, all voters want to know and ought to know everything about anyone they plan on electing president, commander-in-chief and leader of the free world. Isn’t it about time the media start doing more than blind hero worship? This is all the more important with a candidate such as Mr. Obama, who is in short supply of experience and achievement.

  47. from bill o’reilly

    Got it. Faith and charity are good, too. We love hope, faith, charity, all that. But that doesn’t wipe out the Taliban inside Pakistan or pay for a trillion-dollar entitlement: universal health care.

    As with Senator McCain, the folks want specific solutions to difficult problems. How will illegal immigration be dealt with? What happens if Iran threatens Saudi Arabia after you pull American troops out of Iraq? That kind of thing.

    Now call me crazy, but I’d like a president to put forth a health care package that includes me not being blown up by Muslim killers currently hiding in Pakistan. File that under preventive medicine.

    So the advice “Talking Points” is giving, the love we are sharing, if you will, is the same for both Obama and McCain. Get real on tough issues. Get solutions that will benefit the entire country. With the primary season winding down, rhetoric should be replaced by creative solution.

    Happy Valentine’s Day to all the candidates. Here’s hoping you take the advice.

    And that’s “The Memo.”

  48. I wonder how major and national this endorsement is . . . if it was Edwards or Pelosi, wouldn’t it be better to have it captured by cameras so that it can be replayed over and over again? If BO is in Chicago with no scheduled public appearances and the announcement is coming via teleconference, how major can it be?

    Unless BO not having public events today means he traveled to visit JE in NC?

    Anywho, endorsements don’t really matter (look at Kennedy/Kerry in MA) and Hillary is doing great!

  49. Edwards is a fool if a couple of plagiarized policies would bring him around.

    Or he just wants to run as VP again. Since he can’t win his home state, I don’t know why anyone would choose him as a running mate.

  50. It would make sense, mj. This election is turning into who has the most support: the center-left faction, or the extreme left faction of the party.

    Also, Chelsea is making a visit to Hawaii.

  51. mj,

    I read in one of the posts above that one of the newspapers (I think NYT but could be wrong) says that she is rumored to be thinking about endorsing him.

  52. Major Endorsement For Obama at 11am (Russ Feingold??)
    by Djneedle83, Thu Feb 14, 2008 at 10:29:55 AM EST

    The Obama campaign will reveal the mystery endorsement at 11 am this morning. I wonder which individual publicly throws out their support for Obama that the campaig would leak this information to the media beforehand. Does Russ Feingold’s name ring a bell?

    Anyway, the argument goes do endorsements really matter? In the long run, economics would teach us that political endorsements have very little marginal utility on shaping the outcome of a race. However, in the short-run, the loads of free-media, and frenzy, created by these endorsement based new conferences can help create/continue positive momentum for a particular candidate heading into an election.

    My bullshit prediction is that Russ Feingold or John Edwards is publicly throwing their support towards Obama. I’m leaning on Feingold since the Wisconsin election is next Tuesday.

    Short-list for Support

    Russ Feingold
    John Edwards

    Nancy Pelosi (those are just rumors lol)
    http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/14/obama -camp-teases-major-national-endorsement/

  53. This Rev. Wright gave his (and Mr. Obama’s) church’s highest honor to Louis Farrakhan, a well-known racist and bigot. When questioned about the matter, Mr. Obama said, “I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan.” Mr. Obama then also condemned his church’s award to Mr. Farrakhan and his minister’s close relationship with him. But Debbie Schlussel, an investigative reporter in Detroit, reports that despite Sen. Obama’s attempt to distance himself from Mr. Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam, he still “employed and continues to employ several Farrakhan acolytes in high positions on his Illinois and U.S. Senate campaign and office staffs.”

  54. Major Endorsement For Obama at 11am (Russ Feingold??)
    by Djneedle83, Thu Feb 14, 2008 at 10:29:55 AM EST

    The Obama campaign will reveal the mystery endorsement at 11 am this morning. I wonder which individual publicly throws out their support for Obama that the campaig would leak this information to the media beforehand. Does Russ Feingold’s name ring a bell?

    Anyway, the argument goes do endorsements really matter? In the long run, economics would teach us that political endorsements have very little marginal utility on shaping the outcome of a race. However, in the short-run, the loads of free-media, and frenzy, created by these endorsement based new conferences can help create/continue positive momentum for a particular candidate heading into an election.

    My bullshit prediction is that Russ Feingold or John Edwards is publicly throwing their support towards Obama. I’m leaning on Feingold since the Wisconsin election is next Tuesday.

    Short-list for Support

    Russ Feingold
    John Edwards

    Nancy Pelosi (those are just rumors lol)
    thepage.time.com/2008/02/14/obama -camp-teases-major-national-endorsement/

  55. Can anyone point me to a site that shows Hillary has lost basically the same states that Bill did when he was running?

    I need it to make a point in another discussion.

  56. WI editorial page…

    Dear Editor: As a family physician and mother, my biggest concern in this election is affordable health care for all. I have looked at both the Obama and Clinton plans and the Clinton plan is much better because it insures everyone. Studies have shown that the Clinton plan would cost half of the Obama plan per person.

    Paul Krugman, a professor of economics and international affairs at Princeton and a New York Times columnist, has compared the two plans, and he says it flatly: “If Mrs. Clinton gets the Democratic nomination, there is some chance we’ll get universal health care. If Mr. Obama gets the nomination, it just won’t happen.” I’d like it to happen, and that’s one reason I support Hillary Clinton’s candidacy.

    Victoria Vollrath,

    Madison

  57. Dramatic proof of his record came home when Fox News pollster Frank Luntz asked a focus group on live television a simple question: You’re for Mr. Obama, so tell me about one of his accomplishments. Not one in the group had any to offer, not a single one. He has supporters who are obviously willing to buy the proverbial cat in the bag or pig in the poke. Sean Hannity saw this focus group in action. So the next time Mr. Luntz had assembled another focus group of Democrats with many Obama supporters, he asked Mr. Luntz to try the same question. Again, no one in the group could name a single accomplishment of Mr. Obama. He’s been in the U.S. Senate for about two years and in the Illinois Senate for eight, and he had a career before that, but his supporters can’t even hint at even one achievement, legislative or otherwise. (And note, he really has no U.S. Senate experience to speak of, as most of his time there has been spent running for the presidency.)

    Then, I saw one of his supporters – a congressman from Virginia, Bobby Scott – being interviewed. The interviewer noted that the voters couldn’t name a single achievement of Mr. Obama, but surely someone in the political arena could. The congressman made a feeble effort to suggest accomplishments but finally fell back on the platitudes and slogans that are Mr. Obama’s stock and trade. The congressman said things like “he will bring us together,” and “he will get things done.” Unfortunately, neither Mr. Obama nor his supporters can tell us what happens after we’re all brought together, or how he’ll bring us together in the first place. By like token, they can tell us Mr. Obama means change but know little or nothing about what, if anything, will be changed.

  58. And he is clearly a phony on major issues. Ms. Carpenter notes on the Illinois Senate vote on banning partial-birth abortion, he voted “present.” In other words, he didn’t want to vote against the ban but didn’t want to vote for it. So he didn’t vote by being present but not voting. His oratory flows with principles, but his voting record is devoid of them. His voting record is a profile in hedging his bets, not in courage. (If you want more on Mr. Obama, get the free publication of Human Events, “Barack Exposed!”)

  59. A track record of fighting for national security NOT a muslim ancestry and a history of support from the Nation of Islam

  60. There’s a great deal of other material raising questions about Mr. Obama’s close associates and advisors. For example, Robert Malley, a principal Obama foreign-policy adviser, has written articles with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority leader Yasser Arafat, and has called for negotiations with and aid for Hamas, a terrorist organization. Mr. Malley has also blamed Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in 2000.

  61. I’ll tell you why the campaign is different. Because the media and the voters, at least thus far, are letting someone come dangerously close to the Democratic Party nomination based on a trail of hot air and almost silly platitudes. No one wants to say that, because it may not be politically correct. But then I came across someone who is not universally loved but should be listened to on occasion. That’s because she has the ability to call it like it is, unfettered by the politically correct.

    I’m talking about Ann Coulter. Only she could put it so bluntly, yet in my view so truthfully. She wrote, “Only white guilt could explain the insanely hyperbolic description of Obama’s ‘eloquence.’ His speeches are a run-on string of embarrassing sophomoric Hallmark bromides.”

  62. Kaffeen, I enjoyed that article you posted. That’s the kind of thing I’ve looked for all along. I hope more of that happens. This campaign seems to still be waiting for the MSM to get onto this. That wait is a total waste in my opinion. I don’t believe the MSM will do anything about it. I also don’t think we should wait for McCain to save our bacon.

    I wish the next debate would be the one in which Hillary finally takes off the gloves. She has so much she can say. Some of it was in that article. I want her to point out what an empty shirt the guy is.

    At this point, what does she have to lose? I believe she can preface her remarks with how she had waited in vain for the MSM to do it. It has to come out before this contest is finished. Then, if the wingnuts want to continue to vote for him, then this country will just have to suffer for it. Hopefully we can survive it, although it would be a struggle at a crucial time in our history.

    I believe she owes it to the American people to tell the truth in this matter. Maybe she doesn’t have to be the one to do it, but I don’t can’t imagine how anyone else can take on this important task.

    To quote that famous philosopher, W.C. Fields, it’s time to take the bull by the tail and look the situation squarely in the face.

  63. Okay, last time I’ll ask…does anyone know where I can find a list of states Bill Clinton lost when running for the dem. nod?

  64. If Pelosi is worried about her leadership role she should probably look more towards her “Impeachment is off the table” stance than fretting over endorsing BO.

    I had such high hopes for her. I still get misty when I watch Bush introducing her at the 2007 SOTU. The Dems KILL me I swear, can’t one of them have a backbone?

  65. Idunn, I think if you look in yesterday’s comments, there is that information. Penn wrote something about it as well, so you could look up his press release.

  66. Idunn, I’ll save you the trouble. I was just reading it… coincidental, eh?

    “As history shows, the Democratic nomination goes to the candidate who wins the most delegates – not the candidate who wins the most states. In 1992, Bill Clinton lost a string of primaries before clinching the nomination. He ceded Iowa, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maryland, Arizona, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Delaware, Vermont and South Dakota. Similarly, in 1984, Walter Mondale also lost a series of major primaries before winning the nomination, including New Hampshire, Vermont, Florida, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Indiana, Virginia, South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi, Colorado, Ohio, and California. And in 1976, Jimmy Carter lost twenty-three states before winning the nomination, including: Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, West Virginia, South Carolina, Alabama, Illinois, Mississippi, Minnesota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, California, Arizona, Alaska, Hawaii, and Utah.”

  67. Idunn,

    As history shows, the Democratic nomination goes to the candidate who wins the most delegates – not the candidate who wins the most states. In 1992, Bill Clinton lost a string of primaries before clinching the nomination. He ceded Iowa, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maryland, Arizona, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Delaware, Vermont and South Dakota. Similarly, in 1984, Walter Mondale also lost a series of major primaries before winning the nomination, including New Hampshire, Vermont, Florida, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Indiana, Virginia, South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi, Colorado, Ohio, and California. And in 1976, Jimmy Carter lost twenty-three states before winning the nomination, including: Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, West Virginia, South Carolina, Alabama, Illinois, Mississippi, Minnesota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, California, Arizona, Alaska, Hawaii, and Utah.

  68. Regarding the endorsement… glad it’s Chafee and not Feingold. Feingold is a powerhouse in WI and could easily sway anti-war Democrats. Besides all that, I have a personal admiration of Feingold. He’s a man of principle and a true blue Democrat.

  69. chafee? a good guy but at the end of the day he helped keep the gop congress in power which got us roberts and alito, and is for privatizing social security and a total free trader

  70. Former GOP Senator to Endorse Obama

    By MICHELLE R. SMITH – 24 minutes ago

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — Former Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee is endorsing Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.

    The Rhode Islander told The Associated Press he is endorsing Obama in a conference call Thursday. Chafee left the Republican Party last year and became an independent.

    He was one of the Senate’s most liberal Republicans before he lost his seat in 2006 to Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse.

    But despite losing, he remains popular in the Ocean State. His approval ratings on election day were 63 percent.

    Rhode Island holds its primary March 4.

  71. if it’s chafee i dont see who cares outside of rhode island and he couldn’t get reelected in rhode island. but then again looking at chafee’s record sort of a rockefeller republican he’s probably very well aligned with obama on economy and trade, its just many voters don’t want to get caught up in stuff like that because it’s not “the big picture” right?

  72. another_reader, I think Chafee voted against Alito and voted with the Dems on many important legislations. He’s pretty much a RINO, same with Olympia Snowe from ME. If there are such things as good Republicans, they would be it.

  73. I am sorry to say this because I had such high hopes for Nancy Pelosi, but she sucks at her job, which is to lead the majority to get things done for the American people. And, she has done nothing – except capitulate to and water down bills for the Bush administration.

    So, Nancy can endorse whoever, but I would rather see her get something done in Washington…instead of blinking a hundred times a minute. (Sorry, that was sort of wrong…)

  74. Pelosi is good. She is a role model too.

    I have a feeling she will support Hillary in the end and she said in a recent NPR interview that she wont decide until the convention.

  75. February 13, 2008
    POLL: Gallup Daily Tracking

    Gallup Poll
    http://www.pollster.com
    National
    Obama 45, Clinton 44… McCain 51, Huckabee 29, Paul 6

    Economic Conditions
    Poor 34, Excellent/Good 23
    Getting worse 80, Getting better 13

    — Eric Dienstfrey

    It will be interesting to see what the national #s look like today after the Potomac Primaries. Cautiously, I’m optimistic as this shows that her base is firm.

  76. i mean with obama we get what happened with chafee, when push comes to shove the republicans get what they want, chafee could’ve pulled a jeffords but he didn’t. again i think chafee is a decent guy but he didn’t turn “independent” until after he lost his senate seat and if he thought bush/gop were wrong he didn’t fight them very hard. it’s all talk

  77. Ronald, Pelosi was on CSPAN talking about who would make a good president. She wouldn’t say who, but her talking points could have been written by Camp Obama.

  78. Developing news out of Mideast. Everytime I hear violence there, I shudder to think of anyone other that Hillary at the helm. Wonder if McCain has any pull in a Republican-controlled administration to wag the dog at various junctures, thus taking focus off economy long enough to put it squarely back on foreign relations – his AND Hillary’s strong suit. You would think that the majority of rational and reasonable adults, not under the BHO “spell” – would realize how enormous the stakes are domestically (recession – hello?) and internationally (wars and keg of dynamite in Pakistan). We can’t allow this Cult – clueless youth and aging Woodstock-wannabes to hijack our country, our security in the world, our futures. Anyway, many of these newbies have never had to slog down an assembly line all day, or the corridors of a hospital, or teach math, science, literature, history, geography to robotic, clueless youth only intent on texting in the back row of their classes, trying to disguise their earpiences under their jackets and hair.
    No, they’re still on mommy and daddy’s dole – in addition to lousy job market, incapable of holding down a job – and these are the people that will make all the decisions? NOT.

  79. But she remains very popular in San Franciso. I say this b/c I do like Pelosi and know that she’s in a very difficult situation. The Democrats have a razor-thin majority and the GOP are spoiling for a fight. They don’t want to see any Democratic legislative victory, so they’ll vote against anything that Nancy and crew propose.

    As one person puts it “the Republicans continue to block progress all the while insisting that Congress now has ultimate power and refuses to use it.”

    I hope she doesn’t endorse Obama.

  80. Plural,

    Didn’t know about Healy and Seeleye as I am fairly new to all things political. Thanks for the heads up.

    Kaffeen,

    Yes, I do think HRC’s campaign has been more traditional and I just don’t think that works as well in the internet era. Still, I have confidence that she’ll be the nominee.

  81. Hi,

    Two new Quinnepac polls:

    Ohio – Hillary up 55-34%
    PA – Hillary up 52-36%

    And other Quinnepac polls in these two states showed that she’s winning women by 20 pts and is getting 64% of white voters.

    So much for these stories that Hillary’s base is coming apart. 😉

  82. Independent Ben, yesterday there was a comment that linked to a very well done article on demographics and why the most recent primaries/caucuses falsely show an erosion of Hillary’s base.

  83. Glad it’s Chafee and not Edwards or Feingold. That endorsement might help Obama in RI. We’ll see.

    Anyway, I’m with the others here who say they’re glad to see problems have been recognized and new strategies are being put in place. kaffeen, I’ve known for a while that Obama had a better organization, largely because he relied on thousands of volunteers – and he had more money. I’m not sure how that happened, but there’s no time for second-guessing now.

    The good news is, Hillary now has the funds to compete, and I’m thrilled they’re going to be contesting every state from here on out, and putting more emphasis ion GOTV and volunteers. WI is close enough that she can pull off a win there, or at least come pretty close.

  84. Someone posted this link yesterday….I think it is relevant to the MI/FL discussion today…

    Obama knows his way around a ballot
    Some say his ability to play political hardball goes back to his first campaign
    By David Jackson and Ray Long | Tribune staff reporters
    6:48 PM CDT, April 3, 2007
    The day after New Year’s 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.

    There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city’s South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama’s four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.

    Fresh from his work as a civil rights lawyer and head of a voter registration project that expanded access to the ballot box, Obama launched his first campaign for the Illinois Senate saying he wanted to empower disenfranchised citizens.
    But in that initial bid for political office, Obama quickly mastered the bare-knuckle arts of Chicago electoral politics. His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer.

    A close examination of Obama’s first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.

    One of the candidates he eliminated, long-shot contender Gha-is Askia, now says that Obama’s petition challenges belied his image as a champion of the little guy and crusader for voter rights.

    “Why say you’re for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates?” Askia said. “He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?”

    Sounds a lot like what he is now trying to do to MI and FL.

  85. I thought BO is pushing that SDs need to support the winners of their states? Last time I checked, Pelosi represents a district in CA.

  86. Chaffee, can i laugh loud please, if the Kennedy endorsement couldnt swing Mass. Chafee aint gonna sway RI.

    Another nail to hit Obama with, he appeals to anyone who’s not a democrat. This is beyond ridiculous now.

  87. If we can win Wisconsin and Rhode Island, on top of Puerto Rico, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Texas. And then keep the other states competitive and within single digits (overall). Obambi can kiss his Koolaid Kampaign goodbye.

  88. If Obama isnt winning Ohio and Texas after his string of wins last week and Tuesday, they are not going to be swayed. Clinton’s got those in the bag.

  89. if hillary can keep winning till end starting from WI, then it wll be very hard for BHO to claim he is the nominee.

  90. If it’s Chafee, and it’s already been leaked, I’m wondering if it’s someone else that is even bigger for the 11 a.m. announcement.

  91. I can’t say this emphatically enough. The super delegates will *not* support a candidate that loses historically strong democratic GE electoral states by double digits. It just ain’t gonna happen.

  92. Rhode island is not an open primary. Last date for registration Dec 5, 2007 . I guess Chafee repugs can not vote for Obambi.

  93. I thought BO is pushing that SDs need to support the winners of their states? Last time I checked, Pelosi represents a district in CA.

    You know Obama. He’s an ordained hypocrite from the Church of Jerkdom. Remembered how he admonished union support of Edwards and HRC in IA, but then refused to ask the Culinary Worker Union to back off their attacks on Hillary in NV?

  94. i dont think chafee can sway ri. whitehouse will help carry it for hillary just like mayor of boston did in mass. working class voters in ri will go for hillary. the economy is tough up there. has been for a while.

  95. No Chafee is not a delegate, let alone super. He is Republican turned Independent and in Rhode Island, Independents can cast their ballots, etc. In other words, it’s an open primary. Still, not a big deal, and Whitehouse beat Chafee and endorsed Clinton this summer.

  96. moononpluto, Good point about Chafee. When I heard it was a “major national endorsement,” I expected something a lot more impressive than that, lol.

    As for McKinnon, McCain will just replace him with someone who actually has balls. Since he’s the presumptive nominee, he’ll be bolstering his staff with hard-boiled veterans of other campaigns and will have access to fundraising he never had before, too.

  97. If there are too many potential superdelegate “king-makers” waiting to muscle in at the convention, it could reek chaos as well as some very dirty bargaining.

  98. What is the point of a Democratic Primary if Independents can vote in it?

    I’m biased, but I like the way California does its thing. There’s a cut-off time to register, absentee ballots, and not caucuses!

  99. About Rhode Islanders who have endorsed Hillary:

    Senator Sheldon Whitehouse
    Rep. Jim Langevin
    Lt. Gov. Elizabeth Roberts
    Secretary of State A. Ralph Mollis
    Treasurer Frank T. Caprio
    State Senator Juan M. Pichardo
    State Rep. David Caprio

    BTW, the Governor is a Republican…so BO may get him! (j/k) 😉

  100. filbertsf,

    California got it right with this one, that’s for sure.

    and anyone who lived in SF knows filbert is a street not a name… duh.
    🙂

  101. One of my favorite lines from yesterday’s press pool report from San Antonio:

    Highlight was one woman in a frenzy, running out of her home with a box of Kleenex for Clinton to sign. “I didn’t have anything else, Mrs. Clinton,” the woman said.

    And

    Later Barnes explains why she’s supporting Clinton: “Because she’s got more balls than anyone else I know,” she says. “Wait, can I say that?”

  102. filbertsf- not just independents but 7-8% of the vote in VA were REPUBLICANS! unbelievable, that the caucus system can be gamed that easily.

    Pelosi better not endorse – the Senate has a lot more to do in its this session, and to create that kind of dynamic within in would be completely egotistical and despicable.

  103. Good morning everyone! I saw the posts regarding mystery endorsements.

    I really don’t think endorsements mean much. Just before Feb 5, Obama got the endorsement of Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy and Maria Shriver and the media played it up as much as it cpuld.

    Obama lost Massachussetts, California, New York, and New Jersey among big states.

    I don’t think voters in Ohio or Texas or Pennsylvania care about these people much.

    The Governor of Ohio Ted Strickland and John Glenn have endorsed Hillary. In Ohio that matters more.

    In Texas, Dolores Huerta and Bolognes Brothers are campaigning for Hillary. That matters more for the Latino cmmunity.

    We should not let ourselbes “hoodwinked” and “bamboozled” by these phony endorsements for a phony candidate.

    I know several of us are working hard in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Texas. The poll numbers look good. Let us turn out the vote and bring it home.

  104. kaffeen,

    Yeah, I’ve seen it. I’m such a junkie 😉 It was a pretty obvious that those scary numbers out of Virginia were the result of the huge numbers of college-educated liberals in the northern part of the State that went for Obama. Their votes inflated his numbers in a lot of demographics. Pundits were wildly spinning those numbers: “Obama beat Hillary with women!”

    Obama really had his republican cross-over ground game going though, with 8% Republicans, 17% Ind., and only 64% Democratic.

  105. Thanks for those who came in to respond to my question. I’d already handled it elsewhere (sometimes my memory surprises me), but it’s still interesting to read those thoughts about Carter and Mondale.

  106. Ronald…..

    The article says this about Palmer later in the article….She became a special assistant to the president of the University of Illinois and is now retired.
    The reporter who wrote the article would know where she is.

  107. an 8% vote from republicans means Obama would be ahead in reality by 16%. So 16% of his ahead figure in Virginia, was republicans. I mean wtf, they are deciding our primaries.

    If you work it out. If Clinton had 37% and he had 63% when you take out the repugs, the true figure was 45% to 55%. hell of a difference.

  108. Happy Valentine’s Day everyone 🙂

    Happy Valentine’s Day Hillary and Bill.

    Happy Valentine’s Day to Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and the others.

    Happy Valentine’s Day to me 😉

  109. independent ben – team obama has been very consistently good at voter manipulation (arguably legal, 100% despicable) – i found this off a website last night as a reminder re: Iowa:

    11. Encouraging college students to register, but not telling them the truth about the whole process.
    “…Those students can come caucus, but they will have to change their registration to Iowa. Once they do so they will not be legally entitled to vote in Illinois. Again, the Obama campaign isn’t mentioning that at all. The argument can be made that they can just switch back to Illinois the day after the caucus, but that seems awfully close to lying on the voter registration form, where you certify that you are a legal resident of Iowa, etc. It also leads to the possibility that these students could come back to Iowa, register here, caucus, then go back home, re-register in Illinois in time to vote in the Illinois primary on February 5. To many people that just does not seem either right or fair….”
    12. 144 Iowa High Schools had Barack Obama Student Groups.
    “…His campaign Web site lists 144 Iowa high schools with Obama student groups. That’s 40 percent of the state’s public high schools, and it translates to thousands of teens who say they’re committed to caucusing for Obama. The group at Hoover High has about 25 active members. On the Web site, students can check out a map and a pull-down bar with contact information about their schools’ Obama groups or how to start one. Iowans as young as 17 can caucus provided they’ll turn 18 by next year’s general election. It’s a significant pool: An estimated 38,500 high schoolers are eligible to caucus in the state’s 1,784 precincts, including in rural areas where a handful of unexpected participants can sway the results. That’s comparable to the combined student populations of Iowa State University and the University of Northern Iowa….”

  110. I really like the new slogan, “The candidate of solutions, not promises”. I hope they use that frequently. Nice way of saying, Truth versus Bullsh*t.

  111. I don’t think it would be wise for House Speaker Pelosi to endorse BO.

    Republican support and funding of BO isn’t just to defeat Hillary. I think it has to do with the 29 Republican House seats that are becoming vacant. Republicans need to hold onto those seats, and getting the weakest Dem nominee is just part of the strategy. BO will not have any coattails. In fact, if BO is a horrific disaster in the presidential campaign (and I think he would be, if he’s the party’s nominee), House Speaker Pelosi could go back to being just Rep. Pelosi. The Democratic majority in the U.S. House is pretty thin.

    BO seems to believe that if the Republicans attack him, he’ll just claim racism and that will end it. It worked with the Clintons, right? It makes me sick that the Democratic Party is coming close to creating the worst election disaster of the century for Democrats.

  112. kaffeen
    I really doubt it will go that far. If she will get TX and OH and somehow (I have no doubts about it I just don’t know how big) – it is effectively over cause she should be able to receive a big boost.she badly needs money – advertising is expensive in these states. I read BY times article which blames her loses on not enough money in her purse. I can believe that. So provided financial limitations will be out of her way and with new strategy – more feisty, more on the issues and more distinction from Obama as well as debates – she should be able to get all of that. One things though – she should point out their BIG differences. they are not the same on the issues. I am sick of hearing that they have the same plan about everything – it is BS. And she should point a few times – that this is not truth.

  113. HillaryLandRocks,

    He actually hasn’t said that. What the Obama folks are saying is that ALL of the SD’s should support whoever is ahead in overall pledged delegates.

  114. John, I hope she does point out the differences in upcoming debates. I also hope they don’t go back to a negative campaign. They need to “outsource” that stuff (i.e. swiftboaters, et al).

  115. B, let me suggest a site for you….www.statcounter.com.

    Free tracking and lots of great tools (including IP tracking). That could be useful for you in many ways. I suggest you do it now.

  116. I was just reading some of the earlier posts about Mark McKinnon’s comments.

    I’m all for not swiftboating when it comes to the presidential race, but why draw the line when it comes to BO? So if Hillary is the nominee, she’s fair game, but if it’s BO, McKinnon will quit?

    This is beyond bazaar. If this is how a cult hero lives, then I want to be part of that world.

  117. kaffeen
    Negative stuff should be posted by us. I try to do this as much as possible if not to sway anyone to the other side – but t least give Obama people bad mood for the day. LOL

  118. just gave another $14.44 ….donate, donate, donate. she needs to hire staff and open offices and fight for the small states.

  119. good for a laugh…from a likeninded soul on Politico

    If you repeat “Obama Nation” three times really fast, the new word that comes out of your mouth is very revealing.

    Obama Nation = Abomination.

  120. GUYS – it’s obvious to me about Mark McKinnon’s comments – he said it slyly yesterday on NPR, that he doesn’t want to criticize Obama …subtext – I don’t want to be seen as a racist; I don’t want the McCain campaign to be seen as racist which will be inevitable b/c Obama would play the race card.

  121. moononpluto,

    Exactly, it’s why his win in Virginia outperformed polls, which of course are targeted to Democrats.

    A good example – without cross-over republicans, Hillary easily wins Missouri on Super Tuesday. Mr. Obama definitely plays hardball. I just hope leaders in the party know what is going on.

    This crap is going to be a problem in Wisconsin, since you can register on the day of the primary. But I think Ohio will be ok.

  122. John, I live in Austin, Texas. Home of latte liberals and UT students. As you can imagine, it is not easy, especially when alot of my friends are in those categories. When I go to a party, everyone asks me, “So, your the guy with the Hillary bumper sticker?”….lol…I’m going to Hillary’s campaign office this afternoon (it just opened yesterday).

    BTW, if everyone could help me figure out what to shout at Obambi when he comes to Austin for the debate, I’d appreciate it. I will try to do it when media coverage is there.

  123. Hey Kaffeen – say hello to Mike Trujillo if you go the Austin campaign office – I’m pretty sure he’s there – he was staff at the Los Angeles office.

  124. Oh, earlier on MSNBC there was some Obama surrogate on, and he was trying to again spin Obama as the underdog. LOL. Did Obama not enjoy his one day as the frontrunner?

  125. B, email me at (Hillaryis44 username)@gmail.com. I will help you set it up. You will be able to see where your getting hits and from what IP (including city/state). Might help you see who is coming to your blog and could become a useful investigative tool as well (if you get my drift).

  126. kaffeen, where is the Austin office located? I’ve been going to Hillary’s site daily hoping the Texas field offices would be listed, but so far, nada.

    If you’re comfortable giving out that info here, can you email it to me?

    greatgarbo1@yahoo.com

  127. re: austin and college towns – I think the only point to go there is to harness the grassroots student groups for Hillary and get more on-the-ground boots.

    Top 10 things to shout at Obama – any takers?

  128. I also read on Taylor Marsh’s site that two of Hillary’s Web people also left, so maybe they’re being replaced by people who are more tech-savvy. That’s another area needing improvement.

  129. Idunn,
    Can you please post those stats in how the Illinois congressional delegation voted on Iraqi resolution…I want to put it in a Politico post.
    Thanks,
    AMB

  130. Ininla, I take it that you’re not planning a trip to Austin? 🙂

    There’s something to be said about college students: they’ve got stamina and lots and lots and energy. Texas is a big state and we’re going to need all that energy.

  131. kaffeen, I am fascinated by the internet prowess of you, B Merry, and others. How do you find out all this IP hits and so on?

  132. LoL, Obama is both the underdog, but the only one who has a chance of getting the nomination, the only one with a chance to beat McCain and the only one who can change the nation. But he’s the underdog.

  133. B Merry, I am also impressed how you got this site up and running so quickly. I am kind of jealous , I don’t know how to do these things.

  134. Paula: two of Hillary’s Web people also left, so maybe they’re being replaced by people who are more tech-savvy

    I was hoping that they were just saving money 😉

  135. TPS, you leave a trail wherever you go. Pretty easy to track. You could write your own javascript to do it, but there are plenty of “out of the box” solutions (i.e. statcounter.com)

  136. Idunn,
    Can you please post those stats in how the Illinois congressional delegation voted on Iraqi resolution…I want to put it in a Politico post.

    I didn’t post those stats, Ann. You have me confused with another poster, I think.

  137. kaffeen, that is good to know. At least I am not a mean person saying mean things to people like the Obama nuts. Aren’t they worried when they say nasty things (like to Taylor Marsh and Erica Jong) that people will find out who they are and report them to FBI or something?

  138. I’m still waiting on people to help me figure out the best thing to yell at Obambi. I probably won’t have much time, and I’m not sure if, or how long, he will be making himself available at the UT campus, so it needs to be short.

  139. I may go to Dallas or Houston -Filbertsf – I know you saw that email, they have offices opening everywhere and will need people everywhere.

    yes, I think that’s right – re: college students, and the Hillary campaign has not done enough to maximize the college grassroots (including PR – how many people not political junkies like us know that Hillary won 18-24 in CA and MA)?

  140. Kaffeen,

    If you do end up going the mega phone route…make sure you’re in Clinton-friendly spot. The Obama Robots are likely to get physical if you try to tarnish you-know-who! 😉

  141. Filbertsf…..I have to call the finance HQ to determine the location. I called two days ago and they weren’t sure, they thought maybe the Kinky Friedman offices (lol).

  142. Yeah, Ininla. Everywhere, but not knowing TX very well — apart from the fact that it’s big — I want the location so I’ll be able to find housing close by.

    She won 18-24 in CA and MA? Cool!

  143. Ann, i was the won who posted the IRAQ WAR POST with Illinois numbers. Go to my DK post:

    dailykos.com/story/2008/1/19/82643/0724/310/439036

  144. kaffeen, Hillary has a finance office in Los Angeles and I, too, called them on Tuesday. They said to just keep checking the official site.

    We’ll find out soon enough, I suppose.

  145. YES – she did win 18-24 in our state and MA – and that’s a PR gap that the campaign needs to fill – PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW this stuff because it affects the psychology that YOUTH are for Hillary too.

  146. Do any of you fine Texas folk have an inkling as to where she is putting campaign offices? I’m heading there at the end of the month and am split between Dallas/Ft. Worth, San Antonio and Austin, although I’d tend to think Austin is a lost cause. But it would be fun to paint the whole town Hill and piss off some Obamb-tons in the process. I’d really apprecaiate some help because I really want to make it out there and help out.

    If you want, email me at zachary.j.cook@gmail.com

  147. zcflint, Austin is a good “home base”. It is within a couple of hours of every major city. Then you can spend your time in places like San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, et al.

  148. The Austin Hillary HQ (campaign, not finance), is in Kinky’s old office….

    701 E. Ben White Blvd.

    Per the finance office, they are still setting up internet/phone/et al. The office should be open tomorrow. No phone yet, but soon.

  149. kaffeen, did you see my suggestion for your shout out? Sometimes, it is easy to miss things in these threads. If you don’t like that we can think of other things.

    Paula, tahnks. This is actually something Hillary said two days ago in El Paso.

  150. Was it you….Blue Democrat?

    Looking for the details on the votes of the Illinois delegation on Iraqi war resolution…looking to debunk another “wasn’t Obama courageous for “voting” against the war” poster on politico…..

    AMB

  151. ohio polls from q, ras, and susa looks good. rass has wisconsin obama at 47% to hillary’s 43%. i hope she can keep it close or win.

  152. Some Texas demographics info:
    african-american – 11.9% latino – 35.7%
    Median income for the state is about 3,000 below the national average.

    quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/48000.html

  153. I have friends that worked Nevada in Wisconsin now, one in Madison and one in Green Bay. Hopefully this all pans out and we win Wisconsin. That would be a wonderful upset.

  154. Obama Campaign Used Spanish-Language Phone Banking, Texting to Get Out the Potomac Vote

    The use of technology like blogs, mass texting and online phone banks has been key to Sen. Barack Obama’s surprise sweep of recent primaries.

    The Illinois senator’s campaign has been making use of a range of technologies — from ringtones to SMS — to inspire Obama-mania. And it’s working. Obama’s recent parade of victories in the primaries has given him a slight lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    “They’ve been using [texting] to get out the vote, which is incredibly smart because it gives people a way to take immediate political action,” says Julie Germany, director of the Institute for Politics, Democracy and the Internet. “It’s just what mobile technology is suited for.”

    The Illinois senator is not the only candidate whose campaign is using online technology and mobile phones, but his has been one of the most effective in its embrace of new tech strategies.

    On Tuesday, for example, Obama supporters who signed up with the candidate received a text message reminding them to vote. The text message included a phone number to help them find their polling station, a key feature that helped get out the vote.

    Other campaigns have experimented with texting, but haven’t been as effective, Germany says. Last summer, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards’ campaign used text messaging to notify supporters of a televised speech. Germany, co-author of a study on the use of mobile phone technology in politics, says Edwards’ campaign might as well as have used e-mail.

    This week, the Obama campaign organized volunteers to make thousands of phone calls to get out the vote using an online phone-banking tool.

    The technology helped the campaign target rival Hillary Clinton’s base of Hispanic voters and female voters. The Obama campaign reports that volunteers made 5,000 calls in Spanish in Virginia alone, using its online Spanish phone-banking tool.

    The tactic appears to have been successful. Initial exit polls on Tuesday evening showed that Obama won 54 percent of the Hispanic vote, a much bigger chunk than was expected of the electorate that up to now has mostly been voting for Clinton, according to inside-the-Beltway newspaper and website The Politico.

    The campaign is encouraging supporters to use the online phone bank to reach possible Clinton supporters in Wisconsin and Texas, also. Wisconsin’s primary is next Tuesday, and the vote in Texas is scheduled for March 4. Texas and Ohio (which also holds its primary March 4) have the potential to tilt the nomination quest in a decisive direction.

    Hoping to take advantage of a surge of supporter excitement and momentum Tuesday night, the campaign immediately sent out a text alert around 10 p.m. Eastern time. It let supporters know that CNN had called the primaries for Obama. Campaign organizers included a request to spread the word.

    “Fired up? Ask friends to join our movement by texting HOPE to 62262,” the victory message read.

    Online groups have also helped Obama. MoveOn.org, whose members recently endorsed Obama, raised $500,000 for him. MoveOn also created an online Endorse-O-Thon widget that enabled its members to engage in a peer-to-peer online endorsement campaign by sending out 500,000 e-mails and Facebook messages to their friends recommending the candidate.

    Obama supporters all over the spectrum have in the last few months engaged in a multimedia viral marketing campaign with online music videos and humor.

    All this wasn’t, however, enough to win over a majority of voters in the big states of California and New York on Feb. 5.

    The Obama campaign has also been using blogs and photo galleries to keep supporters jazzed and “fired up,” hoping to spread enthusiasm for the campaign virally through the internet.

    The campaign is even offering a ringtone mashup of Obama’s speeches — a 21st-century version of the campaign bumper sticker that is sure to be a conversation starter.

    What could broadcast your hip, geeky, socially conscious status better than a phone with Barack Obama’s voice ringing out to a club beat with: “We can have universal health care in this country! We can do that!”

    http : // abcnews.go.com/Technology/Vote2008/story?id=4290708&page=1

  155. terrondt,

    It has closed up some since Hillary went on the air there. When she actually gets on the ground there, will be even better.

    Just heard that Obama has no events scheduled today. Sheesh, an entire day without seeing an Obama pep rally? lol

  156. On February 11, a senior Republican in one of the red states confirmed to a friend of mine that during this election cycle the Republican National Committee has been directing State Republican Parties Affiliates to tell Republican voters and Independent voters to go to the Democratic Caucuses en masse and vote for Obama. He said this occurred in his own state and others. He was gleeful that Democrats had not seemed to catch on.

    He said the grand strategy of the Republican National Committee is to use Obama to defeat Hillary in the Primary, and then destroy Obama in the General Election. He was emphatic that the Republican Party does not want to run against Hillary. He went on to say the Republican National Committee has enough damning evidence on Obama to destroy him in the General Election. That evidence relates to Rezko and other shady dealings which occurred in the State of Illinois. He said the Democratic Party has some of that evidence as well, but cannot use it against Obama because it would divide their party.

    (Comment: this is all hearsay evidence of course, but it does seem to fit with many other things we have seen and heard. Also, there is a story that Obama met with Rove and Bush in the White House shortly before the primary season and if that is true and if this is what they discussed well then we now know what he means by the word unity.)

  157. Ann, I think I might have an article relevant to what you’re asking about. I don’t want it to get caught in the filter:

    ericblackink.minnpost.com/2008/01/25/obamas-iraq-speech-prescient-but-not-a-profile-in-courage/

    Excerpt:

    “Fri, January 25 2008, 11:00am Follow-up

    Good Friday morning Fellow Seekers,

    This piece is cross-posted at my new home, MinnPost.com.

    I’ve written before, admiringly, about the October 2002 speech Barack Obama gave opposing the war in Iraq, the same month that Congress voted to authorize the war.

    On one such recent occasion, a comment in the thread by Centauri argued that Obama’s stand against the war was not lonely and therefore may not have been as courageous as it is sometimes portrayed.

    His chief fact in support of that argument was this: The great majority of Illinois Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War resolution.

    I checked the congressional records and confirmed that eight of the 10 Illinois Dems in the U.S. House voted No on the resolution. Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois also opposed the resolution authorizing the use of force.

    All eight Illinois Republican congressmen plus GOP Sen. Peter Fitzgerald voted Aye. The Chicago newspapers were editorializing in favor of the resolution, and polls showed that a majority of Americans and the majority of Illinoisans favored the use of U.S. military force to remove Saddam Hussein.

    In the last Dem Prez debate, Obama did claim that:

    “It was not [politically] smart for me to oppose the war at the start of this war, but I did so because it was the right thing to do.”

    I take that to be a claim that it was an act of political courage.

    It had not previously occurred to me that the question of whether Obama’s speech demonstrated good judgment, and whether it demonstrated political courage, could be separated. But they can, and perhaps should.

    If the climate in Illinois was such that most Democratic elected officials opposed the war, it hardly seems that the decision of a state senator who was presumably contemplating a run for Fitzgerald’s U.S. Senate seat qualifies for a Profile in Courage award for taking the same position.”

  158. wbboei, atually, this makes a lot of sense to me. In NotLarrySabato somone made a posting that in Virginia, republican voters were asked to vote for the weaker Democratic candidate in their open primary.

  159. Top 10 things to shout at Obama – any takers?

    Lets see

    1 : Not even an underdog, just a dog!
    2 : Yes you can, do what?
    3 : You think Obama can ask Rezko for a house discount for me?
    4 : Which of Hillary’s policies is he ripping off today?
    5 : Well. you’re likeable enough, just!
    6 : Is he bringing the teleprompter today?
    7 : Which accent is he channeling today?
    8 : When’s Oprah being wheeled out?
    9 : Which republican is he going to hug today?
    10: you want Republican lite with your fries?

  160. Thanks for the info on where I might best be of use. The driving times aren’t extreme for Houston but it’s a 16 hour drive from Phoenix and even San Antonio and Dallas are streching it for me (12 and 13 hours respectively), so I may have to head for Dallas. We’ll see what happens–I have to make hotel reservations shortly–just trying to figure out how to make the trip as cheap as possible.

  161. Ann, I am the one that posted what you wanyed. Look at my DK post.

    dailykos.com/story/2008/1/19/82643/0724/310/439036

  162. zcflint09, before you make hotel reservations, contact this person. She’s helping out-of-state volunteers find housing. I’ve spoken to her and she’s a fine lady.

    tarrant4hillary.com or call 817 887-5516

    “Lots of organizing, phoning, door to door, GOTV activities going on in North Texas also.

    Texas is BIG state. Any outside volunteers welcome! We can provide some housing. Go to tarrant4hillary.com or call 817 887-5516 to get involved. If no answer, please leave message. We WILL get back to you.

    We LOVE Hillary!! “

  163. How about “REZKO WATCH!”

    or “ANSWER THE REZKO QUESTIONS!”

    or “HE’S THE ANTICHRIST!”

    Just kdding about the last one. Would be a riot though.

  164. hillfans, the latest polls out of wisconsin is hillary is with single digits of obama there. this with all the good press obama has been getting. i hope susa is in the field there also. im done donating until next week. i donated 4 times within the last 7 days.lol.

  165. This needs to be passed along. I came upon it yesterday as I defended myself from Obamanauts over at MyDD.

    Obama — NOT the DNC or Edwards or Richardson or anyone else — is apparently the person who came up with the ‘take my name of the Michigan ballot and disenfranchise the voters’ strategy. If this is true — and it appears to be true based on the sourced info from the Iowa Independent publication — he 1000% deserves what he got in Michigan, and those delegates need to be seated IMMEDIATELY:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/1/25/183713/960

    “What TPM does not realize is that the removal was an attempted power play by Obama because he knew he could not run well in Michigan and thought that the pressure of Iowa (protect the whole first thing) would allow him to shut down the possibility of a Michigan beauty contest being deemed meaningful. And indeed Obama’s hardball ploy worked. Michigan was not covered.”

    You reap what you sow, Barack. You played a cynical game, and you’re about to get burned for it. It serves you right. NEVER mess with disenfranchising voters.

  166. call Wisconsin this week and weekend. Let’s push there.

    Moononpluto – hilarious. I like the more subtle stuff – “You’re likable enough.” and “where’s Oprah?”

  167. This needs to be passed along. I came upon it yesterday as I defended myself from Obamanauts over at MyDD.

    Obama — NOT the DNC or Edwards or Richardson or anyone else — is apparently the person who came up with the ‘take my name of the Michigan ballot and disenfranchise the voters’ strategy. If this is true — and it appears to be true based on the sourced info from the Iowa Independent publication — he 1000% deserves what he got in Michigan, and those delegates need to be seated IMMEDIATELY:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/1/25/183713/960

    “What TPM does not realize is that the removal was an attempted power play by Obama because he knew he could not run well in Michigan and thought that the pressure of Iowa (protect the whole first thing) would allow him to shut down the possibility of a Michigan beauty contest being deemed meaningful. And indeed Obama’s hardball ploy worked. Michigan was not covered.”

    You reap what you sow, Barack. You played a cynical game, and you’re about to get burned for it. It serves you right. NEVER mess with disenfranchising voters.

  168. Kaffeen – maybe a sign (or a bunch of them) is better than a shout to get more press – organize a Seat the FL and MI Delegates group. Get the press to talk with you and get it on local TV.

  169. We need to get our AFSCME, AFT, Machinists, and ANA and other unions out to West Virginia where that is the nation’s most heavily unionized state. Get an early foothold in a place where we already lead.

  170. yay hawk, i just saw it. $14 million on the 14th day. TAKE THAT OBAMABOTS!! HILLARY HAS GRASSROOTS SUPPORT TOO AND A DONER BASE TO BOOT. I WISH SHE COULD HAVE TAPPED THAT BASE EARLIER.

  171. yeah, i got this obamabot at work gloating obama is rasing 1 million a day, well hillary has $14 million in 14 days this month. HA!!!!

  172. Levin doubts fairness of caucus
    Gordon Trowbridge / Detroit News Washington Bureau
    WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen. Carl Levin said Friday “it would not be practical or fair” to hold a second Democratic presidential contest in Michigan, placing a major hurdle in front of an idea some Democrats have floated as a way to make sure the state’s delegates are recognized at the national convention in Denver this summer.

    “I don’t see a practical way to hold a caucus in Michigan,” Levin said in a written statement. “Given that 600,000 Michigan voters participated in a (Jan. 15) primary that was held in accordance with Michigan law, it seems to me that it would not be practical or fair to throw out the results of that election.”

  173. I still want to know where his money is coming from. I’d bet my last dollar alot of it comes from people who aren’t U.S. citizens. No way to trace that, of course.

    I still also want to know why the hell he’s in Chicago today.

    Ugh, this asshole is going to give me a stroke.

  174. Any word on New Mexico?

    Would love to see that finalized in our favor,
    followed by Richardson & Edwards endorsements.

    Then again, I’d like to see a lot of things……

  175. good new ad with the soldiers and veterans – she had the testimonials of firemen and military during Iowa and NH – she needs to release those. TimJCain – this is when the firemen’s endorsements and taping them and making them advertisements will help.

    Rudy’s out of the race – so, she can claim she’s the one who stood up for workers of 9-11.

  176. JanH wrote: If there are too many potential superdelegate “king-makers” waiting to muscle in at the convention, it could reek chaos as well as some very dirty bargaining.

    I think we have to be very careful about how we think about this issue. We need to resist the urge to believe that BM has any integrity and gets some points right. They do not have any integrity and our superdelegates are tough cookies.

    Try to remember that most superdelegates are elected officials currently serving in office. They know exactly who their constituents are and who their base supports. They will not be swayed by special interests from other constituencies. AAs will have influence where they are responsible for electing their representative, latte liberals will also hold sway in the places where they are a significant voting block.

    Pelosi is probably comfortable supporting Bambi because he enjoyed a certain amount of success in her area. She might also see the writing on the wall that there’s gonna be a new pecking order if Clinton gets the nomination, she may be politicking in an effort to secure her position. She knows how to play politics, I just wish she was more interested in pushing a Progressive Agenda (For contrast, the republicans were able to force some pretty severe legislation through a Clinton Whitehouse…Nancy either does not believe in a Progressive agenda or doesn’t have the ability to play hard ball with this Whitehouse.)

    Bottom line is that superdelegates will most likely vote in concert with the core democrats who elected them. If for no other reason than for self-preservation. That favors Hillary, because Bambi can’t seem to convince real democrats to vote for him in the Democratic strongholds (i.e., the places where Democrats are currently in office and therefore SDs).

  177. Pelosi should not endorse; as speaker she should be neutral – even if he did well in her district; CA went for Clinton – that will not be looked upon well by Californians.

  178. In this corner, the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world!

    On WMAL-AM yesterday in an interview with Chris Plante, former President Bill Clinton implied the media has been unfair to his wife, stated that she was standing up to sexism when she took on NBC, and — when asked about MSNBC’s David Shuster’s comments about his daughter, Chelsea — said there was a double standard.

    “If he had made a racial slur against Senator Obama, he would have been fired,” Clinton said.
    “I think she has been the underdog ever since Iowa,” Clinton said. “She’s had, you know, a lot of the politicians, like Senator Kennedy, opposed to her. She’s had, the political press has avowedly played a role in this election. I’ve never seen this before.”

    He said they’d done well considering their slim budget. “We’ve gotten plenty of delegates on a shoestring,” he said.

    Of his wife’s recent travails, he said, “the caucuses aren’t good for her. They disproportionately favor upper-income voters who, who, don’t really need a president but feel like they need a change.”

    Asked Plante: “You said, Mr. President, that the political press has played a role in this. Do you think the press has been unfair to Senator Clinton, and excessively generous to Barack Obama?

    Clinton said of the press, “they’ve been active participants in this election, and you know what the objective studies done. And they’ve, many of them are willing to be quoted on the record. But I don’t want to talk about the press. I want to talk about the people. That’s what’s wrong with this election, people trying to take this election away from the people.”

    Plante asked about Sen. Clinton’s reaction to the comments Shuster made about Chelsea being “pimped out” by the campaign: “There have been other incidents on MSNBC, where Keith Olbermann, for example, said President Bush was pimping General David Petraeus, where Erin Burnett referred to President Bush twice as ‘the monkey,'” Plante said. “Inappropriate things are said by the press. Do you believe it’s really appropriate for senior government leaders to come down on reporters when they become angry with things that they’ve said?”

    Said Clinton, slowly, “I think it was inappropriate for him… to refer …to my daughter ….in the way he did.”

    He went on, “it was representative of the kind of blatant, careless, crass, cruel remarks that are altogether too common. And I wouldn’t use disrespectful language referring to General Petraeus or anybody else. But I think that it is remarkable how many sexist things have been said in this campaign that have not been reprimanded.

    “Hillary never complains when people say things about her or me. But when he involved my daughter, she complained, and I think it was the right thing to do.

    “Look, free speech runs two ways, they had to decide, MSNBC decided, they have certainly given their reporters a lot of latitude, their commentators. But free speech runs two ways. And I think that when somebody says something like that, if he had been, made a racial slur against Senator Obama, he would have been fired.”

    Added the president, “She just stuck up for her daughter, and for girls everywhere, and women everywhere, and it’s about time somebody did after a lot of the rhetoric we’ve been through in this election.”

  179. mj – new york observer I believe is where it came from – I could be wrong. and it’s rumor, and probably bambi fueled rumor.

  180. NYCMax,

    I agree completely with you, but given the opposition’s tactics to date, I don’t think they are going to give up easily. I do think that Hillary will be triumphant though!

    I would like to know why Dean is procrastinating about Florida and Michigan. Is he thinking it will just go away nicely?

  181. SOMEBODY with ties to the campaign…

    PLEASE GET THEM TO USE THAT ENDORSEMENT OF THE FIREFIGHTERS IN AN AD…GET A COUPLE OF FIREFIGHTERS AND SHOW THAT HILLARY WORKED FOR THEM.

    THIS WILL HELP WITH ME AND OTHER WORKERS…IT’S IMPORTANT THEY KNOW WHO TAKES CARE OF THEM WHEN IT ALL SHAKES OUT.

    SHE IS LOSING A BIG OPPORTUNITY BY NOT CAPITALIZING ON THAT ENDORSEMENT…THEY THINK IT WAS FOR NEW YORK I GUESS…..

    HOWEVER, THOSE FIREFIGTHERS ARE AMERICAS HEROES AND ANYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THEM…WELL AMERICA LOVES THEM.

    SORRY TO SHOUT,,,MY CAP IS LOCKED UP

  182. Ininla, I will be working with the campaign headquarters to form a group of people that can go to the UT campus when the debate comes to town. I won’t do anything the campaign doesn’t want done, but I suspect we can put together some form of action.

  183. i checked new mexico and still no final results. every 4 years new mexico election officials are always having counting problems.

  184. I’ve been watching MSNBC all morning, and I must say that Hillary is getting decent coverage from them. I mean, a couple of weeks ago, they would have never…NEVER put up a poll that showed Hillary leading Obama. Heh, she must have really scared the pants off those boys when she pulled out of that debate. 😉

  185. mj,

    The Pelosi thing is a total rumor that some ‘reporters’ have put out in the blog sphere.

    Just like how Gore was going to endorse BO.

    It’s meaningless…

  186. mj

    I think the pelosi talk is coming from this site and no where else. Its all RUMOR. She has said she will not make a comittment until the convention and I dont think she will change her mind on that.

    The first post here is from meiyingsu at 9:41

  187. Jan, early on Super Tuesday when MSNBC was trying to push the idea that Bambi was gonna win in New Jersey, I saw Chris Matthews brutally, and I do mean brutally, go after Senator Menendez on his endorsement of Hillary.

    He threw everything at him and I do mean everything. Things like, “So you are willing to go against the wishes of the voters of your state?” The Senator was polite but firm in his position that Superdelegates serve a specific function in the nominating process. I think he was able to be so firm because he was confident that regardless of the outcome, his core constituency was in favor of Senator Clinton.

    If the people who elected the Democratic Senator or Representative, are in favor of one candidate or the other, s/he’s not likely to vote against their wishes because of how the voters in SC or GA voted. SC and GA voters can’t really vote him out of office. There are exceptions, of course, like Kennedy and Kerry, but they’re not likely to lose their seats any time soon…mostly, I guess, because no matter how foolish they are, they always seem to find themselves on the correct side of legislative issues. I think that kind of job security is rare.

    Bambi isn’t winning the votes of Democrats and the superdelegates are noticing. It doesn’t really matter what tactics the opposition uses. Polls have to protect their jobs and voters are notoriously fickle when provoked.

  188. mj,

    Well, if he gets his Obama, he will be a seriously tainted GE candidate. Since Obama is on the record to not seat the delegates, do you think Democrats in Michigan and Florida would turnout and vote for this man? Hell no, they won’t. You can put those two states in the Red column.

    Hopefully most of the superdelegates can see this problem.

  189. Just off a conference call with NY campaign people – they have Ace Smith (who ran the CA campaign) running TX and Robbie Mook (who won the NV campaign) running OH, so that is good news. As to volunteer needs, they want people making calls right now to WI – those numbers are up at HC.com. They also want people to go to OH.

    Also, she described how complicated the primary/caucus deal is in TX, and asked that we all seriously consider making a real commitment to helping in TX. Apparently, people vote twice, in the primary and then must get to the caucus in the evening – I am not sure why. Idiotic, yes. They will be working to train TX Hillstars – it’s a 5 day commitment with training and field work – from March 1 – 5. I would check the HC site by tomorrow to see if they have posted more info about TX.

  190. NYCMax,

    “Bambi isn’t winning the votes of Democrats and the superdelegates are noticing.”

    Okay, I’m convinced. Excellent post/breakdown.

    Thanks very much.

  191. MJ – that’s right Pelosi rumor, it came from timesonline in the UK, and then, Drudge, the asswipe picked it up. That’s why it’s circulating. But, have to hand one to Drudge – he posted the Obama supporters are cult-like by Jake Tapper and that has taken hold too.

  192. Afternoon all!
    Great news about Hill’s fundraising. Tuesday was BO’s high point. HRC can keep it close or win in WI, then on to OH & TX where she’s in great shape. Pennsylvania and RI are strong for her too. Indiana and N Carolina I’m not too sure of, but I can see her winning Kentucky as well.

  193. Independent Ben, you hit the nail on the head.

    The only time I’ll EVER vote for a ticket with the name Obama on it is if it’s preceded by the name “Clinton.”

    Florida democrats (closed primary, imagine that) overwhelmingly supported Hillary. Preciousssss came in with less votes than Mitt Romney.

    Indeed, far from “voters staying home because they figured their vote wouldn’t count,” one can even make the argument that it was a better attended primary than expected because of the property tax initiative.

  194. Interesting poll from Ohio: african-americans Obama 64% Hillary 36%
    Does this mean that Hillary is getting into Obama’s base in Ohio? hehe

  195. MJ, if you do Ctrl+F and type “Pelosi,” then click to do the find, the first post you’ll get on this page is to meiyingsu’s comment about The New York Post reporting on Pelosi.

    This is not the first rumor, however, there have been others reported on threads the past couple of days. You can search each thread for mentions of Pelosi.

  196. Good one Independent Ben re:Hillary cutting into African American base – I will tell you if Obama wins HI, their campaign will start spinning that they’re cutting into Asian Americans – it is crap talk, smoke and mirrors.

  197. I am worried about being concerned about a rumor I heard or read somewhere about a possible endorsement, delegate count, or poll that would really suck if it were true. Can anyone confirm this?…:)

    Let’s try to stay positive and productive. Happy Valentines Day!

  198. nikki22,

    Well I think Hillary can actually play in North Carolina. It’s a closed primary and the most recent poll has her down only 10. I think I’ll try and rustle up some demographics for it.

    And Kentucky is a great state for Hillary, pretty similar to Tennessee.

  199. If you’re concerned about a rumor, do an internet search. That’s how I found the HuffPost piece. Often there’s nothing there.

  200. lninla,

    Yeah, if that poll is accurate then there’s some actual movement of voters there. Since SC, that vote has been going for him like 85-90, right?

  201. campaign office phone # … 1.703.469.2008

    Call them if you think the Firefighters should be used. Ads, phone calls, campaigning with Hillary.

    Suggest it.

    I did.

  202. Caroline

    NM is counting 17000 provisional ballots…that’s why it’s taking so long…they have to make sure the voter is registered, is for real, and didn’t vote absentee or in another location.

  203. You would think that the first female House Speaker would be enthusiastic supporting a potential first female President. Alas, I don’t understand the ways of politicians.

  204. Obama’s gotten a 20-point bounce in the last 4 days in Rasmussen’s national tracking poll, which leads me to think that we need to stop his momentum in Wisconsin, urgently. Just saying.

    Call, canvas, donate!

  205. Irish1139,
    What about putting up a website giving the international view of Hillary? Then we could link to it. You could watch the media over there and quote and link favorable op-eds and op-eds that are sceptical of Obama. Give us some perspective from outside the US — but a website of your own would be the best way.

  206. My understanding of the TX primary is that most of the delegates will be chosen via the primary, 100+, then in order to participate in the caucus later you have to have voted in the primary. Am I right or do I need to look at it again?

  207. Berkeley Vox – I wouldn’t wrap dead fish in a Rasmussen Poll. They are connected to the Obama campaign and are totally tea-bagging the guy.

  208. North Carolina: 2/12 SUSA
    50-40 BO +10

    Black (34%) O 80-15
    White (60%) C 53-34
    Hispanic (2%) C 76 – 24

  209. nikki2 – I think you are right – I am not clear on how it all works but it sounded like the campaign thinks the system in TX is confusing enough that it requires training for volunteers.

  210. How accurate is a national tracking poll now that over half the states have voted? And how accurate are tracking polls anyways?

  211. ^^ not “used” .. I mean their endorsemnent used more. It’s an important one..and I think it trumps many of the political endorsements

  212. Jan

    go to real clear politics: click polls at top, then click on delegate cout out of left column.

    They update as states report their numbers.

  213. Universal,

    Thanks for the info on California! Hillary’s big wins should be touted more often in comparison with her opponents tiny caucus wins…just saying. 🙂

  214. Yeah, just nationally, Ben. Google “Rasmussen daily tracking poll”

    Ohio and Texas are still holding very strong from what I’ve heard though.

  215. JanH,
    I think sometimes even HRC supporters on this board forget how big she’s won already. I’ve been really impressed how she won MA without the blessing of Ted Kennedy (gag), had a great ground game in NH to help fuel her comeback, and winning by double digits in FL even though there was no active campaigning.

  216. I think Obamas “plan” is to use that CAUCUS part of Texas to just drown out the primary part….many people will not know that they gotta go back and be part of the caucus???

    This is so confusing and VOTERS have got to know how to participate and get their vote counted.

    Those Rallies need to be getting the info out loud and clear to voters…

    The Obamamoronationites will try to take over the caucus and I say that is the plan.

  217. nikki22,

    Exactly! And the media sure isn’t advertising any of that. Hillary has done very well so far and will continue to do so. 🙂

  218. I’m going to admit my prejudice against Obama based upon color. I was born in Louisiana, but lived most my life in other places. I’ve never been prejudiced against black people, and therefore that is not a problem for me.

    I’m not against BHO because he is a black man.

    BHO is very inexperienced, so I’m against him because he is a GREEN man.

    I hope people won’t choose a Green Man as our nominee.

  219. pay no attn to any polls other than SUSA or Gallup…they have no dogs in the fights. Zogby, Rass and ARG are the worst.

  220. I was just arguing with 5 Obama people who just informed me that Dean is seriously considering having caucuses in both FL and MI. I got spooked here – is it truth? cause I said it is BS and will never should be allowed. anyone knows anything about that?

  221. ARG, Rass and ARG are just bad pollsters, especially ARG and Zogby. Why they’re still in business is beyond me.

    Zogby and ARG can’t seem to predict squat.

  222. Yup Emjay.

    I think someone in Ohio should buy a large van, probably an old, big one and paint hundreds of sentences on it that say all of Hillary’s accomplishments on it, spread out on the body of the van, and drive it to events. Her accomplishments for the economy, her plan to fix the economy, her bills to help the national guard, her schip accomplishments, etc, etc. Just an idea.

  223. Well, that Rasmussen poll has Obama leading 46-41 nationally with women. There’s absolutely no way that’s right. They must have gone into Richmond, VA and done that poll right after the primary.

  224. Obama says he’s ready to debate McCain?

    Then for goodness sakes someone set that up so we can watch! If he’s still ducking debate with Hillary, maybe she should invite McCain to take her place.

  225. johnflint, this is what is happening. DNC said to FL and MI, if you want your delegates counted, you must switch to a caucus system.

    Carl Levin doesn’t like the idea.

  226. johnflint – look at your sources…I’ve doubt they’ve crosses that bridge to make the decision – and think if Dean really considers caucuses – it will just throw light on the undemocratic method of caucuses – look at Washington 4 million registered Democrats and only 50,000 (and probably many Republicans) caucused. In Florida 1.7 million vs. the measly amount that will participate in caucuses. The DNC are idiots. Dean and Brazile should go.

  227. filbertsf
    well I do understand Levin and Nelson – Obama will have a clear advantage and also why they should re-vote? they did already.
    Bottom line if DNC will force this somehow – it will be the end of Democratic party after that.

  228. In Texas – 2/3 of the delegates are assigned via the primary vote, with the remaining 1/3 via the caucus later that evening.

    San Antonio starts this weekend with caucus training at headquarters EVERY NIGHT til March 4th. It is a hurdle, since some people don’t know about the caucus part. Texas has never really been in play before, so it has never been a huge issue before now. But we are working and have been working hard on getting our people out to caucus after they vote.

    There is a good explanation about how it works on the Burnt Orange Report site:

    http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4877

    How Texas’ 228 Delegates are Allocated

    Texas has a mixed primary-caucus way of selecting delegates, in addition to “super delegates” — but the process works well because it rewards the candidate that gets voters to the polls on election day.

    193 “pledged” delegates decided by the primary-caucus system
    35 “unpledged” or “super” delegates
    The “super” delegates are self explanatory — so let’s see if we can’t help you make sense of the primary-caucus mix of “pledged” delegates. Again, thanks to the Lone Star Project for doing a lot of our work for us.

    How Texas’ 193 “Pledged” Delegates Are Allocated — Primary/Caucus Hybrid

    126 delegates are “primary-chosen” delegates, allocated based on the results of votes cast on March 4. The 126 delegates that are allocated by the “regular” primary system will be the only ones that Senator Clinton and Senator Obama can add to their tally after March 4. These 126 delegates are divided based on the voting strength of each candidate in the 31 State Senate Districts across Texas.

    67 delegates are “caucus-chosen” delegates, allocated at the state convention.
    Overall, the vast majority of delegates that can be won in Texas are based on the voting totals — because the “caucus-chosen” delegates are only assigned based on who shows up to the local precinct conventions the day of the election.”

  229. lninla
    accoridng to my opponents – the decision is squarely in DNC hands and Hillary has no say in it. If thsi is true – it means DNC is uner Obama influence. Dean argues that dem’s cannot igonore 2 such important states

  230. Nikki, let’s not forget NH. Obama will win in a landslide!

    The only goddess of polling is Ann Seltzer. She’s not a pollster, she’s a seer.

  231. JohnFlint, I don’t believe Dean has the power to declare a caucus will be held in any state. I believe that’s up to the state party.

  232. Has Hillary been to Wisconsin?

    http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/272477

    Says voters are feeling neglected…and that they may go to Obama if she doesn’t go there. Isn’t she going Saturday through Tuesday??

    She needs to try to get there asap….they want a reason to vote for her…read some of the comments on that site.

  233. Dean and the DNC have openly pushed the idea of having “do-over caucuses” in FL and MI. MI’s party has said FU in no uncertain terms and FL has done the same. Keep pushing the story of how three other states- IA, NH and SC all broke party rules (same one) w/o punishment. Also, please note that Dean is as broke a dick as there gets in all this. He’s letting our party willfully disenfranchise FL voters bc of what the Florida GOP did in the legislature against Dems’ strenuous objections. Dean is a f-ing tool. He is getting used by the GOP to mess up the FL vote and create party turmoil. He is getting used by 👿 to fudge delegate counts. Stoooooopid fucker. I hope he gets ass cancer. In his mouth. :mrgreen:

    Idunn and Kaffeen, the chant when 👿 is near is “GIVE BACK THE HOUSE!!!” Always will be.

    Filbert, John Zogby couldn’t predict himself taking a squat even if he had a turtlehead nudging at his backdoor. 😆

  234. # johnflint1985 Says:
    February 14th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    lninla
    accoridng to my opponents – the decision is squarely in DNC hands and Hillary has no say in it. If thsi is true – it means DNC is uner Obama influence. Dean argues that dem’s cannot igonore 2 such important states

    Idunn, quick send the DNC several barrels of holy water! The anti-christ is near…

  235. No, Ben. At this point, I don’t care for any polls — good or bad.

    We know what we need to do: win OH, TX, PA. If WI would be icing on the cake.

  236. this is tearing the democrats apart – unbelievable, but I will believe it when it becomes real, not when Obama supporters talk about it. Sure, Dean ignores 1.7 million voters so that the biased few can get their say. what a freakin mess; rather they just seat 50% of the delegates – which would be more fair than a caucus. any way, let’s focus on March 4. Still much to be decided.

  237. If DNC redoes fl/mi with caucuses just to get out of this mess they created I’m leaving the country. I assume they sanctioned them to appear big and bad and don’t mess with us like and never figured the race would be this close. They assumed someone would pull far enough ahead that the delegates wouldnt override the results and then invite them to the party and yay everyone is happy. Except it is close and it does matter and A LOT of people voted and FL/Mi matter more than anyone could anticipate.

    I think Deans strategy now is to wait and see if Obama pulls far enough ahead OR that the earth gets swallowed into a vortex and it doesn’t matter. It must really suck to be him right now.

  238. Debbie Dingell says DNC suggests caucuses in Michigan, Florida
    The Associated Press

    LANSING — The Democratic National Committee is pressuring Michigan and Florida to hold Democratic presidential caucuses so the delegates they’ve lost for holding January primaries can be seated at the national convention, a top Michigan Democrat said today.

    DNC member Debbie Dingell said it’s unclear whether either state would hold caucuses since they’ve already held primaries, Michigan on Jan. 15 and Florida on Jan. 29.

    But she said the DNC is asking the two states to consider such a plan as the likelihood grows that the selection of the party’s nominee could come down to the national convention.

    “There’s obviously going to be a lot of intense pressure to figure it out,” she said.
    DNC spokesman Damien LaVera said the committee is not applying new pressure to either state.

    “We have consistently said that we want states to submit plans that are in compliance with the rules,” he said.

    Florida Democratic Party spokesman Mark Bubriski said the party has no intention of holding another election and has not had any discussions in recent months with the DNC about a caucus.

    “We’ve said all along that we’re going forward with our delegate selection program using the vote on January 29,” he said. “We’ve got more delegate applications than ever.”

    Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer said the DNC isn’t saying anything it hasn’t said before to Michigan and Florida.

    “Everybody involved, the candidates, the DNC and we, need to remain open-minded. So if someone comes up with a creative way that meets everyone’s interests, we can do that” and get the delegates seated, he said.

    LaVera said the Michigan or Florida primaries didn’t count under DNC rules, so they can’t be used to allocate delegates. He added that the only way to get delegates seated is to submit a revised delegate selection plan — such as holding a later election — that meets DNC rules or to appeal to the convention Credentials Committee, which will meet this summer before the Aug. 24-27 Democratic National Convention in Denver.

    The stakes are increasingly high as Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton compete for the delegates they need to win the party’s presidential nomination, a contest that could stretch to the spring.

    The decision could end up being made at the Democratic National Convention, which makes the question of whether the Michigan and Florida delegates are seated an important strategic point.

    Clinton won both states’ primaries. Obama was on Florida’s ballot but had pulled his name from Michigan’s ballot because the state broke DNC rules by moving its primary to Jan. 15. That forced his Michigan supporters to vote for “uncommitted” and hope for a share of the uncommitted delegates.

    It’s unlikely that Clinton would favor holding caucuses, which could open the door to Obama victories in two states she has won. But there also is pressure to hold some kind of alternative election that meets DNC rules so the states don’t have to wait to find out if the delegates will be seated.

    Both states were stripped of their delegates for violating DNC rules by holding early primaries. Democratic leaders in both states expect the delegates will be seated at the convention, and Clinton recently said she would ask her delegates to support seating the Michigan and Florida delegations.

    So far Obama has not heeded her call to do the same, and it’s unlikely he would if it means Clinton would get the larger share of delegates from both states.

    Florida has 185 pledged delegates and 25 superdelegates who face not being seated at the convention; Michigan has 128 pledged delegates and 28 superdelegates.

    Brewer said he has continued to talk to both campaigns, stressing that Michigan is an important state for either candidate to win in November. Florida officials have said their swing state also could be crucial to a Democrat getting into the White House.

  239. JanH

    Howard Dean cannot make the decision you want. Neither he nor Donna made the decision to “punish” MI and FL.

    It was, and is, the responsibility of the Rules Commitee. Members of the Rules Comm and the Credentials Committee will be the “deciders” of who is seated at the convention.

    That is not to say that pressure won’t, or can’t be applied to each member, but pressure comes with politics.

  240. Idunn,
    there was something from the HIllary campaign recently saying they had won and lost the same states more or less that Bill did. I haven’t been able to find a detailed list at a third party site. Try factcheck.org? factcheker.com? something like that.

    IF you find it, I’d like to see it too.

    h t t p : / / 1950democrat.livejournal.com

  241. if it comes to a caucus in florida .. everyone that can must get involved and show them how “strong arm” tactics by Big Pink hits the Obamamorons. I’m in. I’ll get a lein on my car to get the funds.

  242. Tiny, no Dean sucks. I won’t say what put think lower and think it belongs to 👿 .

    This whole mess is his own doing. Fucking with two states we need in the GE so that he can be in good with the Dem establishment is just rump-humpery. We cannot afford these shenanigans. Even if Hillary didn’t win those two states, I’d be against taking away their votes. Hell, I was against it when they made the announcement before the elections were held. No offense to Hawk and other IA folks here, but I think it’s BS to have IA be first every time. Rotate that shit. Let RI be 1st some time. Or OR. Or KS. It makes no sense to have IA first just because someone ages ago thought it be cool to show off some farmers. *yawn*

    Besides, it’s embarrassing to see our future POTUS candidates be shown off like prize cows at a 4H event. Have some dignity, man.

  243. The mess in MI and FL happened on Dean’s watch. He should find a way to fix his own mess. I suggest he find a way to do it in a way that appeases the winner in those two states, and not the loser.

  244. I must say, the Republicans must be laughing now re: deja vu of Gore/Bush 2000 Florida, but that it’s happening within our own party instead. Dean should freakin leave the DNC.

  245. 1950democrat Says:

    “What about putting up a website giving the international view of Hillary?”

    1950,
    That’s a VERY strong idea. I’m more than willing to do a lot of the news gathering for such a thing.

    Can you can set it up?

  246. Filbert, I will not be an independent. OK has no 3rd party and with a closes system, I’d never get to vote.

    I mean what I say- I will switch registration to Republican. I will never give another dime to Democrats. I will vote for John McCain if this crap persists. Our party is sexist. It is dirty. It rife with assholes like Obama and his sycophants. I cannot, I will not support such a party. And I will not by my association be guilt of disenfranchising lawful voters.

    I just won’t.

  247. Guys,
    You know I NEVER criticize Hillary on this board. But I have to say I don’t understand why she signed that 4 state pledge. I get why Edwards & BO didn’t want any part of MI and FL- they knew they’d get smoked. They wanted the focus on Iowa because it was Hill’s weakest state. Maybe it was one of Solis Doyles’s moves? Anyway, its over and done with now so I’m not complaining. I think in the end those delegates will be seated.

  248. this is a reply from Obama guy just sent to me

    The state has to agree to it, it is true that it isn’t unilateral, but the state party can’t be unilateral either and insist that their current election results hold and their delegates be seated when they broke the national party’s rules, so Dean has to get them to agree to some kind of alternative, no matter what they do they will not get their current election results to stand.

  249. Nikki, all of them had to sign it. They had a gun to their head. Only the rules don’t apply to 👿 . He gets to run ads there with no problems. He gets to campaign in person with nary a word from the DNC.

    I’m starting to think his dick must taste like candy with as much sucking it gets from Howie and the DNC.

  250. “no matter what they do they will not get their current election results to stand”

    They don’t know that. No one knows yet how it will turn out. You can assert just as well and plausibly that the delegates will *have* to be seated.

  251. I was just looking on the internet, about the beginnings of the GOP smears about Obama: Larry Sinclair? First of all, that is absolutely DISGUSTING! And downright just WRONG to spread that crap around.

    But, if this is any indication of how far the GOP will go to prevent a man with the middle name Hussein from becoming the Commander in Chief, they will stop at nothing to smear him. Trust me, a man with that middle name will simply not be elected POTUS. However racist and bigoted it is, it will NOT happen. It just won’t.

  252. John, the :evil:bot is just messing with you. Dean has to solve this. He cannot force them to have a caucus. he cannot do anything other than let the count stand, give them 1/2 their delegates or deny everyone of them. The latter is not an option as we still have November to deal with. So it will all or 1/2. He’ll try for 1/2, but the states will let it drags out. They will get the media focused on the inner sanctum of the DNC which he doesn’t want since it could start federal investigations. Plus, 3 other rule breaking states ended up with no punishment. If 👿 got a nomination under such facts, the legitimacy of his nomination and Dems as whole will be under attack from here on out and we WILL lose the WH.

  253. OKie, I’m actually very torn at the moment. I can’t imagine casting a vote for anyone but Hillary. But if the GE match-up is btw BO and McCain, I’m lost.

    My number 1 issue is the Supreme Court. Unlike Iraq or the economy, it is a decision that will effect infinite generation to come. Think Brown vs Board of Education and Roe v Wade. Imagine if Earl Warren wasn’t Chief Justice.

    Obama will waver and cower to the GOP and pick a moderate Justice who will not move the court back to the left. McCain will surely choose a conservative. It’s a lose-lose.

  254. OkieAtty
    well I hope so. this guy has his usual information from Obama headquoters and he is Canadian (funnily enough) . I argue that it is not possible to throw away so many votes and force them to revote until the results will satisfy Obama’s grand vision. But it is a big worry of mine. Provided there will be a re-vote there – it is a majot problem to us.

  255. 1950 democrat,

    I read daily English, German and Italian Press! You will not find a lot of anti-Obama articles.

    I think they just translate articles from US. I am really annoyed that they do not do more research.

    Not that they hate Hillary – In fact the Europeans love her – but the press ia taking on this hope and change theme and even some politicians are trying to copy it.

    I hope Obama looses, also for those European politicians to loose this theme!

  256. If Hillary hadn’t won those states I’d want the votes counted as well. I’m dismayed that anyone would support them not beaing seated. Its basic civil rights.

    Way too many people voted. These states could have given the dem party a big fuck you and not voted at all, but they didn’t.

  257. Do you guys think HRC and her team are thinking about how to prepare for the general during all this? Apparently, this thing is going to the convention. She’ll only have a few months to work on McCain.

  258. Your DNC is really a mess.

    How can they expect a caucus in Fl and MI after millions of people have voted?

    What then? 200.000 go to the caucus and they will accept happily this new result of much less people?

    I dont get it. As I posted before, it looks like your DNC is doing everything to loose the next GE.

  259. johnflint1985,

    As a resident of Florida, I can tell you that my state will not be holding a caucus or any other form of a re-do. The FL Democratic Party before, during and after the vote repeatedly stated that January 29th was final and binding.

    In fact, my state will be allocating our 121 district level delegates (+25 alternates) on March 1, as scheduled. []

  260. weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/hillary_clinton_barack_obama_a.html

    She also delivered a backhanded compliment to Obama’s oratory skills.

    “Over the years you’ve heard plenty of promises from plenty of people and plenty of speeches. And some of those speeches were probably pretty good. But speeches don’t put food on the table. Speeches don’t fill up your tank. Speeches don’t fill your prescriptions,” she said. “My opponent makes speeches. I offer solutions. It’s one thing to get people excited. I want to empower you.”

    Clinton contended that Obama, who visited a GM plant in Janesville, Wis., a day earlier to unveil an economic growth plan, were “modeled “ after proposals she launched last year.

    “There’s a big difference between us—speeches versus solutions. Talk versus action,” she said. “You know, some people may think words are change. But you and I know better. Words are cheap.”

    Posted by Mark Silva on February 14, 2008 1:47 PM | Permalink

  261. Sinclair seems on the up-and-up. He could be sued if he did not have the ability to back it up. His only defense for such a slanderous charge is truth.

    I lean towards it being true.It also means he committed adultery since he married in ’92.

  262. I agree with you filbert, if the supreme court wasn’t such a big issue this election I could see myself voting McCain no prob, but its way too big an issue to ignore.

  263. nikki,
    All this talk about having to hurry and select a nominee because the repubs have their’s is a bunch of bull.
    John McCain is a PATHETIC candidate and Hillary will kick the shit out of him – I don’t care if she’s got 24 hours to prepare.

    It’s these caucuses against the son of Jesus – translated through a completely corrupted media – that are a bitch!

  264. Home / News / RSS

    Inside the Clinton Turnaround Strategy
    By Gary Reese
    Florida Insider

    February 14, 2008 — In recent days, news organizations have increasingly focused on the seemingly desperate shape of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s battle for the Democratic nomination for president.

    Various scenarios for a Clinton win at the Democratic convention have mainly focused on a likely battle for the Democratic Party’s elite “super delegates” – elected officials and other party insiders whose vote at the national convention are not bound by popular votes in primaries or state caucus results.

    Only in the past few days has there emerged serious consideration about the “unseated” delegates from Florida and Michigan. Those states’ delegates are now banned from being counted because they held their primaries earlier than the date called for by Democratic National Committee.

    But sources close to the Clinton team have told our Florida Insider reporters that the strategy for seating the Florida delegates won by Clinton in that state’s primary on Jan. 29 will fit hand-in-glove with arguments about the super delegates that are being put forward by the Obama team.

    “[The Obama camp] already is arguing that the super delegates’ decision [about which candidate to commit to] should reflect the overall will of the [committed] delegates. In other words, if he’s ahead by 50 delegates going into the convention, then he should get the support of the super delegates.

    “So let’s get this straight,” our source said. “[The Obama campaign] believes the super delegates should have to play by newly created rules that just happen to benefit Obama. Meanwhile, the votes of over a million Democratic voters who came out in record numbers in Florida should be disregarded.

    “Do [the Obama people] not understand that if it weren’t for the unfair punishment placed on Florida by the DNC, Clinton would be in the lead in elected delegates right this minute?”

    The Florida source says that if the convention fails to seat the delegates that were chosen Jan. 29 in the state, then the Clinton camp should argue that the super delegates’ ultimate decision should reflect “the will of the people,” and not “the will of Barack Obama.”

    “You can expect one hell of a protest if they don’t count the vote down here,” our source concluded. “Not at the convention, but long before that.
    “This was a date imposed on us by a Republican-dominated legislature and governor in Florida. Howard Dean and the DNC know damn well that’s the case.”

    http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_214_216.aspx

  265. European
    I think the whole of democratic party is like that. In 2000 they have a stupid cionfusing ballot in Florida. In 2004 no one chcked the voting machines in Ohio – so people were standing in line for 11 hopurs until polls closed and they didn’t vote due to machine problems. No we have this shit. all this completely f…d up system of proportional votes, superdelegates that don’t know whom they support and states that don’t count. It looks to me – no one in dem party have any clear idea how stupid they really look. if a national party is not able to create normal elections….

  266. RE: Sinclair, how much ya wanna bet he has the limo charge slips to back it up? Or the equivalent of the blue dress?

    I wonder how much of the AA vote will stick with him when they see that video? I bet there won’t be much change. He was receiving, not giving which would be a lot worse and mean he is a punkassbich.

  267. Clinton comes out swinging in Ohio
    Posted by Mark Naymik February 14, 2008 11:54AM
    AP Photo/Carolyn KasterDemocratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Clinton is shown under the hood of a new Chevrolet Cobalt as she makes a campaign stop at the General Motors Assembly Plant in Lordstown, Ohio, Thursday.
    Hillary Clinton held up a pair of boxing gloves inside the General Motors assembly plant in Lordstown Thursday, making it clear that Ohio is a fight she must win.

    “We need a fighter and a champion in the White House,” she said, referring to area boxing hero Kelly Pavlik.

    Clinton was on the first stop in a two-day swing through Ohio that will also include Dayton, Columbus and Lyndhurst.

    Her message was one squarely targeted at middle-class voters. She touted proposals to take on oil companies, credit card companies and manufacturing companies that move overseas. She proposed forcing oil companies to invest in alternative energy which could spur jobs with existing manufacturers or those companies that have to face windfall profit taxes. She also said she would work to reduce high interest rates on credit cards and would fight to force health insurance companies to accept all people regardless of pre-existing conditions.

    She also took several swings at her Democratic opponent Barack Obama.
    In a reference to his popularity spawned in part by his popular speeches and rallies, she said: “Speeches don’t fill up your tank. He makes speeches, I offer solutions.”

    She also complained that Obama had begun distributing a misleading mailer in Ohio. “My opponent puts out a mailer with all kinds of false claims,” she said, adding that Obama doesn’t have much experience in creating jobs. She also knocked him for his efforts to save jobs at a Maytag plant in his home state of Illinois. “The union at that plant supports me,” she said.

    blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/02/clinton_comes_out_swinging_in.html

    About Kelly Pavlik; In his last fight, he was knocked down and barely survived the round, only to come back and KO his opponent in the NEXT ROUND…:)

  268. Bringing this over from comments at taylormarsh.com

    I just saw this on Barack Obama’s website blog in the comments section. This is what they’re up to…

    “I probably shouldn’t say this, but I use Hillary’s new phonebanking tool for us. I call her numbers and use our scripts (I copied and pasted them from a few previous calls).

    shhh….”

    after this comment, someone came on and said that they shouldn’t do it because it lacks integrity. That didn’t last long, after that, this comment was made:

    ” By Alpha Today at 2:08 am EST
    No, don’t stop. That is very clever and accomplishes two things. 1. gets our message out. 2. eliminates a phone number from their message.

  269. February 14, 2008

    POLL: ARG, Gallup Daily Tracking

    American Research Group

    National
    Obama 47, Clinton 45… McCain 54, Huckabee 31

    Gallup Daily Tracking
    http://www.pollster.com Ras has it as O 49 C 37 12pt O

    So far, his bounce hasn’t been borne out in any meaningful way except the Rasmussen poll. It’s 2 days after the Potomac Primaries. I’m interested to see where the #s are on Fri and Sat.

    Gusy, calll, call, call. While WI is close, it worries me about same day registration if true.
    Don’t worry about Pelosi. There is no way that she can endorse now and retain any air of neutrality if this comes down to SD or conventin. It won’t happen now.

    National
    Obama 46, Clinton 45… McCain 51, Huckabee 29

    — Eric Dienstfrey

    February 14, 2008 in Poll Update

  270. From CBS News’ Fernando Suarez:

    LORDSTOWN, OH – Slamming Barack Obama during a campaign stop at a General Motors plant, Hillary Clinton claimed the foundation of his candidacy is built on speeches, not results. “That’s the difference between me and my opponent,” Clinton said, “I offer solutions. It’s one thing to get people excited, I want to empower you to live your dreams so we can all go forward together.”

    Clinton added, “Now, over the years, you’ve heard plenty of promises from plenty of people in plenty of speeches. And some of those speeches were probably pretty good. But speeches don’t put food on the table. Speeches don’t fill up your tank, or fill your prescription or do anything about that stack of bills that keeps you up at night.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/02/14/politics/fromtheroad/entry3831351.shtml

  271. I for one will not only vote for but CAMPAIGN FOR McCain if Obama wins this. I disagree with him on a lot of things, but I have NO confidence that Obama would appoint better justices than he.

    Obam is dangerous. I refuse to validate him with my vote, and in fact, will make it my mission in life to make sure he crashes and burns in the general, and the Democratic Party with him. Maybe they will learn not to take women and faithful Democrats for granted anymore, and we can start over in 4 years.

    I have NEVER in my life supported anyone but a Democrat. I am as loyal to party as they come. No more. If they let this travesty go forward, THEY WILL PAY, from me as a woman. Enough.

  272. 1950….don’t worry about those few that do this. They are far and few. Plus, most of the action is taking place with vetted Activate callers who they know are the “real deal”.

  273. what language, Okieatty!

    that would explain the donnie mclerkin thing. the majority of the AA church-going crowd are totally against anything gay.

    me? i’m more worried about his past. has he ever shown his papers from the IL legis.? where are his friends? why did he write a book glorifying his dad (who gave him his unfortunate name and dumped him) and doesn’t even TALK about his mother; where’s HER book? what kind of judgement does that show?

  274. At first glance it looked like a good night for Barack Obama here at Gilley’s, the legendary Dallas honky-tonk. Hundreds of supporters crowded the room, sipping longneck bottles of Shiner bock and milling around the mechanical bull made famous by John Travolta in “Urban Cowboy” (back when the bar was located in the Houston area). TV screens overhead beamed in the news that Obama was sweeping the so-called Potomac Primary and building momentum for the delegate-rich Texas primary slated for March 4. Throughout the room folks were pledging to volunteer to help usher first-time voters to the polls. What made the night all the more promising for the Obama field team on the ground in the Lone Star state was that the campaign, which had only recently begun setting up shop in Texas, hadn’t even organized this gathering. “What’s crazy and wonderful, astonishing even, is that [the locals] organized themselves before we even got here,” said Adora Andy, an Obama staffer who flew in from San Antonio for the Dallas event. “We’re just backup.”

    But a closer look at the crowd indicated the challenge ahead for Obama and his allies. This audience of some 600 was overwhelmingly African-American and Caucasian; there were only a handful of Hispanics on hand. No line of volunteers formed in front of the “Latino Outreach” placard, which briefly fell to the floor, despite the plea for Spanish-speakers posted on the online invitation to the event.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/111041

  275. I put up a post “Obama’s Ann Coulter Moment” on my Universe, where’s my country? blog. Click on my name above and if you have any links and info to add that supports what I think is his closet conservatism, please post it in the comment section.

    Not sure I’ve ever seen a bigger fraud than him. That some people are falling for the fraud continually amazes–and sickens me.

  276. HillaryforTexas
    you are right in this. there is no point to vote for him. He is only about “feel good” promise, but how about delivery? and even if she is less inspiring to someone than he is – she is a real candidate with real ideas and real solutions. If someone lives in a dream world – by all means vote for him. but if you are about reality – than he is not your guy.

  277. RE OKIE ATTY: “Sinclair, how much ya wanna bet he has the limo charge slips to back it up? Or the equivalent of the blue dress? I wonder how much of the AA vote will stick with him when they see that video? I bet there won’t be much change. He was receiving, not giving which would be a lot worse and mean he is a punkassbich.”

    Now easy does it, Okie. That’s a pretty homophobic thing to say, if I am reading you right.

  278. # Ronald Says:Can anyone locate this Alice Palmer from Chicago? SHe would do great in an NPR interview right about now….

    As of the Iowa caucus, she was with Hillary’s group, according to Lynn Sweet iirc. After what Obama did to her in 1996 she quit politics and took some prestigious job in a (Chicago?) university and sfaik is still there. All those details come up on a search.

  279. I figurd the Obama shitheads would use hillarys phone bank. Are those comments stll up one his blog? Someone needs to take a screen capture of them. I’d do it but I’m on a phone not a computer.

  280. True, Sorry. I have a mouth on me especially when pissed off like I am currently. I have been know to make grown men cry themselves to sleep and then try to off themselves when they find out how horrible and weak they are.

    Realist, Gilley’s in Dallas is not legendary. Gilley’s was in Pasadena, and someone co-opted the name for a spin-off. Dumbasses. I lived down the road from the old old. The one in Urban Cowboy. My bedroom was the old bedroom of Travolta’s cousin in the movie. Dallas? HA!

    I think we should follow Michelle around and ask her about Mr. Sinclair and whether they have discussed technique.

  281. February 14, 2008, 2:01 pm
    Clinton Appeals to Texan Soldiers

    By Ariel Alexovich

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, looking ahead to the March 4 Texas primary, has a new ad up in the Lone Star State that zeros in on its large active and retired military population.

    She’s the best friend a soldier could have, the ad suggests, because she’ll increase veterans’ entitlements and stick up for them in Washington.

    “She hears you,” the announcer says.

    The emotional ad intersperses images of disabled veterans and a soldier saying goodbye to his girlfriend with photos of a strong, hard-working Mrs. Clinton.

    “Voice Soldiers” is her fifth ad in Texas. Mrs. Clinton has a pair of ads playing in Wisconsin, which holds its primary Tuesday, and one ad running in Ohio, which also votes March 4.

    Here’s the script for “Voice Soldiers”:

    For every soldier who serves so bravely over there but is ignored over here, she hears you.

    For every National Guard and Reservist who leaves their family behind, she hears you.

    That’s why Hillary Clinton reached across the aisle to expand access to health care for the National Guard and is pushing to protect the bonuses of wounded soldiers.

    She’ll never stop fighting for those who fight for us and give voice to those who have none.

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/clinton-appeals-to-texan-soldiers/

  282. THU., FEB 14, 2008 – 12:55 PM
    Clinton to step up Wisconsin campaign
    JASON STEIN
    608-252-6129
    jstein@madison.com
    After sending only surrogates to the state while her rival has held rallies and media events here, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed today to campaign in Wisconsin in the days leading up to Tuesday’s primary.

    “I intend to be in Wisconsin starting on Saturday,” Clinton said In a conference call with Wisconsin reporters. “We’re going to be campaigning hard for four days across the state.”

    Clinton, who campaigned in Ohio this morning, renewed her call for a debate in Milwaukee with primary opponent Barack Obama and said she would be the best “leader and commander-in-chief on Day One” to reach goals such as providing universal health care and protecting national security.

    http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/272544

  283. OkieAtty Says:
    February 14th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    That’s Newsweek, not me. I’m a New Yorker who wouldn’t know Mickey Gilley from Mickey Mouse…:)

  284. LORDSTOWN, Ohio (Reuters) – Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton accused rival Barack Obama of lacking substance and experience on Thursday as she fought for political traction after a string of losses.

    Former Republican candidate Mitt Romney, working to unify his party behind one-time rival Sen. John McCain, decided to endorse the all-but-certain nominee McCain with a ceremony planned in Boston.

    Brandishing a pair of blue boxing gloves given to her at a General Motors automobile plant, Clinton portrayed herself as a fighter and Obama as someone who makes a lot of speeches that sound good but do not offer solutions.

    “That’s the difference between me and my opponent. My opponent makes speeches. I offer solutions. It is one thing to get people excited. I want to empower you,” the New York senator said.

    It was a new line of attack for Clinton, the one-time front-runner for her party’s nomination who now finds herself in political peril and forced to scramble for sweeping victories in Ohio and Texas on March 4 and in Pennsylvania on April 22.

    She focused on an area that some Democratic strategists say is a weak spot for Illinois Sen. Obama — his tendency to give uplifting, inspirational speeches that offer little in the way of specifics about how he would lead the United States if elected in November.

    “Now, over the years, you’ve heard plenty of promises from plenty of people in plenty of speeches. And some of those speeches were probably pretty good. But speeches don’t put food on the table. Speeches don’t fill up your tank, or fill your prescription, or do anything about that stack of bills that keeps you up at night,” Clinton said.

    The new rhetoric comes days after Clinton shook up the top level of her campaign staff and is attempting to re-energize her White House bid, as Obama rides a wave of momentum from a winning streak that reached eight states in a row on Tuesday.

    A new poll showed that at this point, she is in a strong position in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

    The Quinnipiac University poll said she leads Obama 55 percent to 34 percent among likely Democratic voters in Ohio, and 52 percent to 36 percent in Pennsylvania.

  285. postivelyclintonian, I’m pointing out language in the AA community. 👿 could take McClurkin out on the campaign trail to summon up anti-gay animus and he can take a blowjob from another man which makes him a hypocrite. I know, and you know- we all know, that gays are viewed very badly as a general rule in AA communities. If he stirred up that animus to rally folks, esp since our girl is better on gay rights, while hiding his own adulterous activities, then he deserves what he gets.

    I don’t believe in outing folks, BUT if they dump on gays and lesbians for their own benefit while getting their freak on secretly, I have a problem and think they should be called on it from the highest mountain top. BTW- I have been here for months bitching about the McClurkin thing. It made me spitting mad. I have tons of gay and lesbian friends who get shit on by folks like 👿 and it’s wrong. They should enjoy the same rights as me and my hubby. They have a right to be miserable, too. 🙂

  286. Apparently Hill gave a rather blistering speech.
    I like the tone – A LOT!!!

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) trashed an array of corporate interests in an economic speech in Ohio Thursday, vowing that as president she would go after oil, credit-card, insurance, pharmaceutical, investment, and loan firms.
    Delivering a major economic address ahead of the Buckeye State’s crucial March 4 primary, Clinton also slammed Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) as a lightweight, declaring: “My opponent gives speeches, I offer solutions.”

    “My opponent says that he’ll take on the special interests,” she said in her prepared remarks. “Well, he told people he stood up to the nuclear industry and passed a bill against them. But he actually let the nuclear industry water down his bill – the bill never actually passed.”
    Clinton has put a new emphasis on populism as she attempts to recover from a string of eight consecutive losses to Obama, and she continues to court the endorsement of former opponent John Edwards.

  287. OkieAtty

    Hope you are feeling better.

    Reason for this note: Didn’t I read here (or maybe RezkoWatch) that Wilhelm was one of the partners in one the multi-million $$ groups set up to “invest” Illinois Public Employee (teachers?) pension funds monies? That he and BO were tight because of that, so it was no surprise that he endorsed BO.???

  288. Realist, I know. I’m bitching about them. I was just addressing your post and making sure you knew they were full of it.

  289. Following the campaign and being part of it has been a very humbling experience. Each day feels like a week and I’ve learned to enjoy every small morsel of good news.

    I can’t believe it was only last week we were celebrating our victory in CA. Someone mentioned that FL’s primary was on Jan 29th. That felt like years ago.

  290. Excerpts:
    —“We’ll take on the oil companies and harness their record profits to create millions of clean energy jobs – high-wage jobs you can raise a family on. I’ll end their special tax breaks and give them a choice: invest some of your profits in alternative energy, or we’ll do it for you.

    —“We’ll take on the credit card companies so that you and your families aren’t drowning in debt. Here in Ohio, payday lenders are actually taking Social Security checks from our elderly. That’s outrageous. And I’ll ban those hidden fees and sudden rate hikes, because credit card companies shouldn’t be able to bait and switch you and your family.”

    —“We’ll take on the insurance companies and tell them they can no longer discriminate against the sickest people who need care the most. They spend more than $50 billion a year trying to figure out how not to cover people. Well, I’m going to save them a fortune and a whole lot of time, because here’s the new policy: No more discrimination period. So even if you have a pre-existing condition, you can get the health insurance you need – no questions asked.”

    —“And I’ll go after drug companies and insurance companies that are overcharging consumers and the government – it’s time to end their profiteering at our expense.

    —“We’ll take on Wall Street and tell them: you’re going to finally pay your fair share in taxes. Because it’s outrageous that a teacher making $50,000 pays a higher tax rate than some Wall Street investment managers making $50 million.

    —“We’ll take on the student loan companies and tell them no more ripping off our sons and daughters. Because we should be making it easier for our kids to go to college – not harder.”

    Whoa! Now we’re talkin’….

  291. Blue, as my text said- we have to donate so she can make our voices heard. She is the better candidate on every level. If she were male, the nomination would be hers. If 👿 were white, he’d never have gotten this far with his scarwny resume (I hate admitting I agree with Anthrax Coulter).

  292. is anybody else starting to feel ALOT better about our chances, new polls, better strategy, 1MIL a day online!!! Chelsea in Hawaii! Mag Williams! More offices in smaller states! GO HILLARY!

    am I the only one feeling more optimistic the last couple of days?

  293. OkieAtty Says:
    February 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    I hear you about the homophobia – it is something I feel personally, myself being a woman who wears comfortable shoes… I wasn’t reading your statement carefully enough. I guess my antennae went up too soon. I am sure your heart is in the right place!

  294. “They spend more than $50 billion a year trying to figure out how not to cover people. Well, I’m going to save them a fortune and a whole lot of time, because here’s the new policy: No more discrimination period.”

    THESE are the themes, Hill’s found her groove.

    I wanna hear her repeat this till she’s too hoarse to speak (which is hopefully March 5th 🙂

  295. Okie-

    The piece is about Barry’s utter lack of Hispanic support in Tx…

    “But a closer look at the crowd indicated the challenge ahead for Obama and his allies. This audience of some 600 was overwhelmingly African-American and Caucasian; there were only a handful of Hispanics on hand. No line of volunteers formed in front of the “Latino Outreach” placard, which briefly fell to the floor, despite the plea for Spanish-speakers posted on the online invitation to the event.”

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/111041

  296. true, I can be. Right now, I’m just spitting mad.

    I hate Dean and the DNC for what they doing to legitimate voters. They wouldn’t even go to bat for OH in 2004, so why should this surprise me….

    And I’m mad at the “evil: bots for making excuses for their Messiah’s bad behavior. If he got a gay BJ while married, while high on crack and then led an anti-gay parade thru SC for votes, I swear I will lock him in a bathroom with Larry Craig and give them both tap shoes.

  297. Speaking of the new feisty Hillary, just saw her a while ago on MSNBC. She’s speaking and holding up a pair of boxing gloves. LOL. Too bad the anchor was talking and I couldn’t hear what she was saying . . . but it appears The Gloves Are Off!

  298. I’m right there with you rigso! There’s been so much positive news about ground work coming out the last few days! I feel I’ve heard more about the ground game since Monday than I had in the previous month! (I swear Washingtons ground game consisted of 3 people, a sticker and a donkey, it was sad). I’m amped.

    HOLLA!

  299. Postive, I know what you mean. It sounds better than it reads. I swear. 🙂

    Realist, I caught that angle but I grew up there for 10 yrs and I hate when dumb reporters don’t do their jobs and inflate and make up stuff. Or worse, don’t report the news as we have all seen for far too long.

    TPS- I have always loved Hillary (wait, does that make a lesbian now?!? 😉 ) I love her feistiness right now bc it mirrors how I feel. I’m mad as hell and I’m not taking it anymore.

  300. You know, attacking these issues with such BRUTAL honesty
    is really the best way to obliterate the halo surrounding the CandyMan.

  301. rigso,
    I’m always optimistic about our girl. Well, maybe a few times right after Iowa I got down in the dumps. But you’re right. I think she can even pull out a win in WI(hoping!). Regardless, it’ll be close and then we get to switch to the beer track.

  302. Blue, I just wanna know who can do a better softshoe. 😉 I am going to post that link everywhere I can.

    I hate hypocrites.

    Hey, Idunn. Doesn’t Revelations say something about the Anti-Christ being a hypocrite? Or something about the giant sound of sucking?

  303. BTW- a friend of mine in DC said the Sinclair story has been making its rounds for some time. It’s old news to them.

  304. I just rewatched that video. It happened once in the limo and again 2 days later in a Gurney hotel room. Once might be drunken (or high antics), twice means he liked it and had no remorse.

  305. 1950Dem,
    It doesn’t have to be “based” overseas (can gather everything here), but I do need help getting setup.

    Technically speaking, I’m a real imbecile.

  306. filbertsf,

    I know exactly what you’re saying. And daily, it’s becoming more important that Hillary Clinton win this nomination.

    rigso,

    I feel like Hillary is in the driver’s seat for this thing right now.

  307. there’s a case going on apparently. maybe okieatty can find it? i think sinclair is the plantiff b/c he’s getting death threats from 👿 ‘s attacking swarm of bullies. and 👿 and the mustache man and disinfranchising DNC are the defendants? is that true?

    personally, i think it’s not true. but the drugs part? maybe.

  308. Hey, Idunn. Doesn’t Revelations say something about the Anti-Christ being a hypocrite? Or something about the giant sound of sucking

    Revelations chapter 13 vs. 6:

    And the minions shall flock to him, O Foulest Of Hypocrits , and they shall fall to their knees before the beast and there will be great sounds of sucking.

  309. idunn, you are obsessed with this anti-christ thing, aren’t you? i doubt the so-called real anti-christ would be black and have a middle name hussein…..too easy to be scared of. the anti-christ has already been here: dubya…..or as Molly Ivins used to say “Shrub”

    god, i miss Molly Ivins. I wonder who she’d endorse? probably kucinich. we miss you Molly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  310. I don’t like it when the Sinclair deal gets brought up in any Hillary blog. It reeks of tabloid scandal and gop smear. I think we’re better than that. There’s so many other things to hit him on. :/

  311. Maggie Williams is a phenomenal and fabulous person. Also, she is one of those Clinton team members that Howard Dean awhile ago alluded to being rather…umm…’rough.’

  312. i doubt the so-called real anti-christ would be black and have a middle name hussein…..too easy to be scared of.

    See THAT’S the evil game plan. Get you all messed up thinking it’s too obvious, and BAM! next thing ya know, you’re sporting the mark and marching off to your doom.

  313. 1950 democrat

    Regarding your last post, I missed the discussion regarding hillaryworldwide. com but I would be very happy to register it and pay for two years registration. I have another domain at bluehost now and am not using it, as I understand I can host sub domains, whatever that means. But I think it means I could host the Hillary site there at no extra cost, anyone understand this? I used to do websites 10 yrs ago, but my code is really rusty. I’m more of a graphics person. If there is a coder out there who wants to tackle the code, I’ll be happy to do the graphics. I have all the graphics software. I do have dreamweaver mx and flash mx for building sites but haven’t a clue how to use them. Could probably send them to someone who can use them tho:) If anyone wants to work this out let me know, happy to help in any way!!

  314. Independent Ben,
    Maggie Williams has been w/ the campaign since NH I think. I’m not sure what her official title was though. I’ve been trying to read up on Hill’s campaign operation. From what I’ve found so far it seems like there has been an effort to remove Patti Solis Doyle for months but Hillary resisted. Doyle’s been with her a long time and she trusted her. HRC was supposed to replace her after Iowa but put it off until Maggie threatened to leave. Ms. Williams sounds like an impressive woman.

  315. experience-matters-vote-hillary,

    If you could register it (Now?), I’ll help cover any costs too.
    The look isn’t a big deal right now, just getting a simple blog up for starters works, then we can switch to whatever we like.
    let me know if you need me to do anything – BlueDem

  316. experience-matters-vote-hillary:

    A subdomain is something like: subdomain1.domain.com, subdomain2.domain.com, etc

    What you are looking for is creating a domain pointer — does your bluehost acct allow you to do this?

    You will make sure the DNS for hww.com points to bluehost’s DNS servers. Then you create the domain pointer using the admin panel. This will make a folder for hillaryworldwide.com for you to place html docs, regardless of the current domain name you’re using.

    When people browse hillaryworldwide.com, they’ll get redirected to the site in the new folder.

  317. nikki22 – around NH – I think Patti Solis Doyle – official campaign manager and Maggie Williams – unofficial campaign manager.

  318. I just called her campaign office again…703.469.2008 and told them what the Obamabots are doing. Their phones are ringing off the hook~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Anything else you find PLEASE call them they said.

    —–

    They want to know what is happening on the ground with arm twisting, dirty dealing, etc.

    Phone banking by US will eliminate them getting those numbers….

  319. From a politico post….you know I have never been big on conspiracies….but I really think this may be happening…

    Exactly what is happening! Republicans (I am a Republican) voted for Obama and some are sending money to him but will not vote for him! In my state Hillary won! Republicans have no candidate they can all support – can not tolerate a Hillary Clinton as president. I am a Republican and don’t want to see Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton! Strategy is to get Hillary out during nomination process by the Dems. A lot of Dem primaries are open. Republicans don’t do this for good reason!

    Obama will be easy to get beyond the rhetoric in his speeches because there is no substance to what he is saying. The real beef will come out in the general election conerning they fact that he is extremely left wing and the “Yes We Can” will not work with america.

  320. That these people are dirty bullies of the dirtiest bulliest kind has been clear to me for some time now. I keep spreading the inference that: dirty bully on the campaign trail equals dirty bully in office.

    No more gangsters in the white house!

  321. And another…

    For the record, I do know of 3 Republicans locally and personally that voted for Obama simply to vote against Clinton. Clinton won AR, but still I was really surprised to see them do this.

    They couldn’t decide which candidate to pick on the Rep side, but just knew they didn’t want to have to deal with Hillary this fall.

  322. …If some Rs think Obama’s “extremely left wing,” I really think that shows how off-the-scale into the exosphere far-right crazy they are….

  323. I just made my Valentine’s Day donation to HRC. I encourage everyone who can to give. The more we give the better her numbers look.

    As far as Republicans voting for Obama I have posted before that I know Republicans in Mo. who voted for him just so they could vote against HRC.

    I’m tired of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton talk. The reason we are in this place is because of Brazille and her inept campaign for Gore and all those pure liberals and progressives that had to vote for Nader. Add to the mix a whimpy Kerry and there you have it.

  324. LOL, on MSNBC Tucker Carlson says he thinks movement of SD’s is fluid, and going in the direction of Obama. That’s simply not the case. I’ve seen a trickle of endorsements on each side, but no one SD leaving Hillary and going to him.

  325. oh my god………no idea if this is real but if it is…..

    WANNA BECOME AN OBAMACRAT?!!!
    By Obama Florida 2008

    Tens of thousands of people in Florida are already supporting Barack Obama for president.

    But, you know what? You won’t be able to vote for him in the all-important Florida Primary next February unless you are a registered Democrat, or unless you re-register as a Democrat.

    See, Florida law mandates a “closed primary” for presidential primaries. Even if you’re an independent, these archaic laws will not let you vote in either major party primary.

    Put another way — you have been legally disenfranchised.

    That’s why “Democrat for a Day” was launched this spring by ObamaFlorida2008. Using the official forms provided by all Supervisors of Elections offices, you may re-register as a Democrat for that one day — when the primary is likely to be held — on February 5, 2008. You must do so before the end of 2007, to make sure it is done 30 days before the primary.

    But this is not about some “hard sell” to recruit voters to become permanent Democrats. Not at all. After the primary, you may re-register back to the
    Republican or Libertarian parties, or revert to your previous status as an Independent! There will be plenty of time before the general election in November 2008.

    ObamaFlorida2008 recognizes and respects all citizens who have varying points of view. We just want to make it make it possible to vote for Barack Obama in the primary — or for that matter — anyone you wish.

    Duval, Hillsbrough, Pinellas, Alachua, Leon, Volusia, Nassau, Clay, Okaloosa, Polk and St. Johns voters are already re-registering in the “Democrat for a Day” program.

    Within weeks, it will be expanded to all 67 counties in Florida.

    And, from the standpoint of the Obama campaign, it is a win-win situation! For example, how many Republicans do you think will re-register to vote for our respected opponent Hillary Clinton? That’s right … virtually no one.

    But we’re finding that up to 20 percent of Obama supporters are registered Republicans.

    In fact, during the first couple of weeks in April, some 150 Republicans indeed became “Democrats for a Day.” You might call them “Obamacrats!”

    And this is without any official launch of the program.

    The goal is 100,000 new voters for Obama in Florida by the end of 2007.

    For more information, contact your local Obama groups in the counties mentioned, and if you are in a different county, make sure they get it started!

    For more information, call ObamaFlorida2008 Director of Voter Registration Aaron Hoffman at 904 879 2904, or email him at ahoffman@obamaflorida2008.com.

    In the Tampa-St. Pete area, contact Tom Squires of the Tampa Bay O-Train through the national Obama website (BarackObama.com).

    You may also call 904 379 5469.

    Get involved. Become an Obamacrat! Get your friends and other supporters to do so as well!

    And we’ll see you at the polls for the Florida Priimary on February 5, 2008!

  326. I just convinced a friend of mine who is an Asian American to contribute to Hillary. I find that many Asian Americans really love the Clintons. Anyone, has a good explanation for this?

  327. basil

    they are elected, not appointed.

    I have said 1 million times, divided by at least 10,000, that if you want to make the rules, get involved w/ the local party, work hard, take on projects, meet people, keep getting assigned upwards and upwards and become a louder voice in the party structure.

    I get so frustrated w/ people on any site who monday-morning- quarterback everything from what I did door-to-door in rural Iowa to what well-meaning, hard-working party faithfuls are doing in committees all year long, every..damm..year..not..just..election years when you all become intense—and bossy and demanding, and may I say…sometimes quite nasty.

  328. Does anyone know WHO is on the DNC Rules and Regs committee besides Dean and Brazile? And who appoints the committee members?

    Or how I can find out?

    BTW- saw the ABC clip. Poor HRC sounds soooo hoarse but she looks amazing.

    I like that she’s now referring to BO as her opponent.

  329. heh heh heh…is it awful that I’m now thinking a Hillcrats thing urging repugs to vote for Huckabee would be awesome?

    (yes, I’m awful. Shame on me for even thinking that)

  330. please, phonebank to Wisconsin. She is going to be there Saturday – Tuesday. I wish she could go tomorrow. I think Wisconis can be won.

    Love the new tone she has set. This is a woman on a mission.

    Speeches are great…we want results. Results like she has been giving for years. It’s a different take on her experience but it comes across much more interesting.

    Go Maggie.

    Go Hillary.

    Don’t forget tomorrow…more $ for Susan B. Anthony day. Don’t let them outraise us.

  331. Well, if it is an actual flier passed out by his campaign, it’s proof that he was in fact campaigning in Florida. Kind of takes the wind out of his argument on not counting votes because he didn’t campaign,

  332. hey, i dont’ care is the sinclair thing on here is discussed. i guess we all know it’s not true, but we can still have fun with it.

    obamakos kiddies were having fun with hillary eating babies and killing vince foster. all’s fair here, i think.

    obama and larry sitting in a limo
    S-U-C-K-I_N_G
    first comes coke
    then comes crack
    then comes sinclair
    stroking bawack!

    ha ha ha ha ha

    :biggrin:

  333. Yeah, I think he did the TV ads in Florida too. But Obama and his campaign are not being punished by the party, only Clinton and her wins are. In my opinion, there’s a clear double-standard, which says: he can go do wrong, she can do nor right.

    People should continue to report this stuff to the Dem powers-that-be. Let them know that the people are watching their corrupt biased behavior.

  334. Re: Michigan and Florida, if they do have to re-vote, I say we keep a record of all of Obambi’s comments about how their votes should not count, BO officials laughing at the thought of Clinton in Florida the night she won, etc. and reply them for them so they know it was only Hillary who stood up for their right to vote. BTW, I read somewhere that Levin and Nelson both said there is no way their states will re-vote again.

    Without Clinton Democrats Risk Michigan and Florida:

    blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/02/without-clinton-democrats-risk.html

    Levin and Nelson: No Re-votes:

    blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/02/13/levin-and-nelson-no-revotes.aspx

  335. Emjay,

    I’m not being critical or complaining about the process. I simply don’t know enough about it. I’m trying to gather info and educate myself.

    Maybe one day I will be able to get more involved besides reading on this blog and sending in donations.

  336. If anybody has a way to secure one of those pamphlets from Florida … if its true. Of course they’ll try to pin it on one person but still, it could be proven differently if a lot of people have those

  337. someone on these pages, I think it is kafeen, is a software engineer and you might ask him abt the internat’l Hillary site. He has done a bunch of consulting w/ folks here lately, just helping out.

  338. experience-matters-vote-hillary,

    Thanks so much! I’ll start gathering materials – got some awesome stuff.

    Please advise when you have the domain name registered.

  339. In my opinion, for what it’s worth, the caucus revoting would likely be a disaster for Clinton as I think Obama’s bullies would somehow come out en masse for those caucuses, and simply that the powers-that-be keep discussing do-overs shows they’re corrupt. This one thing, their behavior, really does make me lose hope. I think Americans want her, the Democratic Party does NOT. No matter how many wins she’s picked up, I don’t trust the party to ever give her the nomination. Some people inside it are doing whatever it takes to make sure she doesn’t win.

    People can’t let those caucuses happen.

  340. didn’t somebody post the phone # for DNC … I’ve called it several times. I want to call again.

    I think we should just start telling whoever answers those phones .. COUNT THE VOTES. They want to go into this spill about legalities, etc. etc. etc. CVA for Dean and such.

  341. DNC numbers:

    202-863-8000 (DC)

    877-336-7200 (Utah, works for DC)

    Call ‘em, Call ‘em alot. Be Nice, but give ‘em hell about disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan.

  342. didn’t bambi learn about those big union endorsements in Nevada?? Working stiffs are not going to told how to vote. Working stiffs listen and make up their own mind. Working stiffs earn our money the hard way. Working stiffs don’t give jack shit about what the party bosses say. My husband used to get letters and such from his union and they get thrown out. Caucus might scare people but primaries allow people to stand in the booth and choose themselves.

    This endorsement will of course give him one more evening of ObamaWorship(tm) by the Chris Matthews of the world…gosh, I wonder if Chris will feel it still going up his leg.

  343. Fran,

    As I understand it, Carl Levin is on it in Michigan.

    Very powerful ally to have.

    In Florida, the people have just fuckin’ had it with being disenfranchised.

    The DNC’s not the be-all, end-all.

  344. Link to listen to Hillary’s press avail today, where she said, among other things:

    “The last time we debated was in California, and I convincingly won California, which may be why Senator Obama doesn’t want to have a debate in Wisconsin.”

    i.timeinc.net/time/2007/thepage/08-02-14-hillary-WI-conf-call.mp3

    and yes, SEIU set to endorse the opponent
    (thepage.time.com/2008/02/14/seiu-set-to-endorse-obama/)

  345. Blue Democrat

    Yes, of course it does. The Cityedition thing just goes a little deeper down the rabbit hole. I’m not sure I’m ready to believe that there could be a connection between Obama and Karl Rove, but who knows.

    I did find one interesting article on Politico. It stated that Obama and John McCain had signed an agreement to both accept Federal funds if they faced each other in the GE. It’s strange because it would remove all of Obama’s heralded advantages in fund raising – and it makes you wonder if the guy really wants to be president.

  346. WOW! Hillary is knocking it out of the ballpark with her speeches now. While her opponent is high on spiritual empty promises, she not only delivers solutions, but reveals him for what he really is…an empty balloon.

    LOL…maybe someone should send Maggie to visit Dean. 😉

  347. It’s strange because it would remove all of Obama’s heralded advantages in fund raising – and it makes you wonder if the guy really wants to be president.

    That’s VERY weird. 😯

  348. please, phonebank to Wisconsin. She is going to be there Saturday – Tuesday. I wish she could go tomorrow. I think Wisconis can be won.

    I would love to phonebank but I don’t have a cell phone and only local service on my housephone. I’m disable, but I’m willing to do anything to help Hillary.

  349. I phone banked some this morning, plan on hitting it again for a bit after dinner. I do sound alot like Hillary at this point though, hoarse to the point of breaking. 🙁

  350. Idunn, Obama is now back tracking saying public financing is only an option not a pledge.

    Okay, hold up. When did he make the original statement about agreeing with McCain on public financing?

  351. LawSchoolDem,

    He’s afraid to debate…would lose whatever tiny momentum he seems to think he has. She always shines in these forums. He rarely does.

    Of course it would be nice if the questions were evened out so that maybe he could get a few that above kindergarten-level.

  352. Fran, it’s just a fact that Hillary’s base doesn’t caucus well. Lots of working people who can’t get there, and then you have lots of older folks. A Florida caucus would be an epic disaster.

  353. dot: if a candidate accepts federal funds they accept a limitation on what they use for the general election (i.e., they cannot privately fundraise). The funds are provided by the government through a trust established as part of the IRS, where a person can check a box and opt to donate $3 of their return to the general election fund. I believe the fund is approximately $60 million per candidate.

  354. Some video footage of San Antonio rally last night, and reactions from some San Antonians afterwards, here:

    http [space]
    ://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1119159856/bclid1119228005/bctid1417315521

    Yes, we had a Mariachi band! 🙂

  355. Just a thought, but if caucas format is the last resort-breaking point to get those delegates, would it work to come to a compromise, i.e. two times for caucus’s, morning and then evening so that even shift workers could vote?

  356. If he is agreeing to this it is undoubted that he knows that his funding “sources” will be drying up come the GE….but doesn’t he have to have so much of the $ he gets right now set aside for the GE. I’m confused.

  357. HILLARY HANDS OUT VALENTINE’S CHOCOLATES
    Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:30 PM by Mark Murray
    Filed Under: 2008, Clinton

    From NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones
    Clinton wished the press a Happy Valentine’s Day and handed out chocolates on the plane before taking off to a stop in Dayton, OH Thursday.

    “Happy Valentine’s Day,” she said. “I apologize to all of you who are not spending Valentine’s Day with your significant others.”

    Clinton said she had received chocolates and a dozen roses from Bill and talked to him this morning and said they had spent almost every Valentine’s Day together.

    She then surprised everyone, by speaking with the girlfriends of the CBS embed Fernando Suarez and the Politico’s Ken Vogel — after asking the reporters to call the women on their cell phones.

    Suarez’s girlfriend was sick and Clinton told her she had something that “just won’t go away either”, it just hangs on and hangs on. She then spoke with Vogel’s girlfriend and ended by telling the press plane, “Happy Valentine’s Day…forging ahead here.”

    Before Super Tuesday on a flight from Little Rock, the senator served peach cobbler to reporters.

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/14/665393.aspx#comments

  358. My mom is pretty high up in her union and she says she doesn’t understand why any union would support Obama. She thinks they all should have gone to Edwards, then Hillary and Obama last.

  359. mj,

    LOL…I’m not for a do-over, but if there is a stalemate, it was just a thought.

    Sorry, didn’t mean to upset.

  360. experience matters .. read up thread. Obama08 in Florida suppossedly pushed a pamphlet during the Florida primary about being a “dem” for a day.

    There is a long post which quotes the pamplet.

    If those pamplets existed…it sure would be nice to get a hold of them.

  361. h t t p : / /comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/19606/19972.html#msg-19972

    A sensible article with a rational comment string. I wasn’t asked to register, and my comment went right up:
    Posted by: 1950democrat
    Comment: #229
    Feb 14, 03:19 PM

    “Presidential elections now are settled by about 30% of the electorate that occupies the independent center.”

    Bzzt! Only when the latte liberals run latte liberal candidates. When a Clinton runs, he/she brings out the common sense blue-collar base that stays home most years but came out in 92, 94, and so far this year in the states that have primaries not caucuses.

  362. Wednesday, February 13, 2008
    NM Dem Caucus: All Unofficial Results Except Provisionals
    Yesterday, the Chairman of the Democratic Party of New Mexico Brian S. Colón announced that the final totals for the regular and absentee ballots. See below the fold for the tallies.

    “Today’s canvass results for regular and absentee ballots provide hard evidence that New Mexico Democrats are ready for change in the White House,” said Chairman Colón. “From ending the war in Iraq to providing solutions on health care and education, these two candidates have energized Democrats in every part of our state. With an official turnout of 54% more than the last caucus, the 2008 Democratic Caucus turnout was absolutely unprecedented.”

    In this year’s Democratic Caucus, a total of 157,354 cast an absentee, regular or provisional ballot for a Democratic Presidential candidate. Whereas, according to final tallies from the Democratic Party approximately 102,100 Democrats voted in the 2004 Caucus.

    “These canvass results also confirm the regular results from election night, and the quality of the work done by volunteers in the middle of an unprecedented turnout,” said Chairman Brian Colón. “Each of these votes have been scanned into a computer, tabulated and where there was an undetermined vote, members of both campaigns and a caucus judge reviewed the result—and I appreciate their commitment to accuracy and fairness.”

    The provisional ballots are still being qualified. Approximately 7,000 out of more than 17,200 provisional ballots have been qualified so far. Volunteers are conducting a second search of the voter file to assure every registered vote counts.

    17,276 Provisional Ballots are currently in the process of being qualified and scanned. Counting of the provisional ballots is began today and is expected to be finished late today or sometime tomorrow.

    Statewide
    Democratic Party of NM Democratic Caucus Canvass Results
    (Unofficial, Do NOT include provisional ballots)

    Absentee Ballots
    Barack Obama 1,593
    John Edwards 646
    Christopher Dodd 3
    Dennis Kucinich 103
    Bill Richardson 61
    Joe Biden 7
    Hillary Clinton 1,648
    Write-In 3
    Uncommitted 0
    Undervote/Overvote 0
    TOTAL 4,082

    Regular Ballots
    Barack Obama 65,417
    John Edwards 1,424
    Christopher Dodd 67
    Dennis Kucinich 433
    Bill Richardson 1,175
    Joe Biden 105
    Hillary Clinton 66,436
    Write-In 184
    Uncommitted 398
    Undervote/Overvote 375
    TOTAL 136,014

    Regular and Absentee Ballots
    Barack Obama 67,010
    John Edwards 2,070
    Christopher Dodd 70
    Dennis Kucinich 536
    Bill Richardson 1,236
    Joe Biden 112
    Hillary Clinton 68,084
    Write-In 187
    Uncommitted 398
    Undervote/Overvote 375
    TOTAL 140,078

  363. TPS, if – God forbid – Obama and McCain do face each other in the GE, McCain will clobber him with that issue if he tries to back out. McCain is big on campaign finance reform.

  364. The Service Employees International Union executive board will meet tonight via conference call to consider an endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential bid, according to sources familiar with the organization.

    The expectation is that SEIU — one of the largest and most influential labor groups in the country — will vote to endorse Obama, though until that decision is made later tonight it remains an open question.

    blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/

  365. “The last time we debated was in California, and I convincingly won California, which may be why Senator Obama doesn’t want to have a debate in Wisconsin.”

    Oh, SSSSNAP!!!!!!!!! 😀

  366. And here will be the response to the ssssnap, “Well, ummm , as I’ve already said , umm, errr, we’ve had 180 debates, ummm, a whole town wiped out…and uh,….”

  367. Hillary has to make the point that they’ve had JUST ONE debate head-to-head, and that he’s scared & duckin’.

  368. According to the study, Obama’s PAC and campaign committe have given out $694,000 to such superdelegates. Some 40% of the supers who support Obama received cash from him, the study finds.

    Hillary’s PAC and campaign committee, meanwhile, have donated only $195,000 to supers, less than a third of what Obama has, and only 12% of supers supporting her have received her money.

    tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/report_obama_far_outpacing_hil.php

  369. Clinton’s Austin headquarters opening Saturday

    By W. Gardner Selby | Thursday, February 14, 2008, 02:12 PM

    Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign has invited the public to the grand opening of her Austin headquarters Saturday.

    United Farm Workers co-founder Dolores Huerta, a Clinton campaign co-chair, will headline the Texans for Hillary headquarters grand opening from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. Saturday at 701 E. Ben White Blvd.

    I’d blogged earlier this week that Sen. Barack Obama’s Texas HQ would have a kickoff event Saturday, but those plans have not been finalized — or at least not announced.

    Evidently, the Clinton HQ is at the same location occupied by independent Kinky Friedman when he ran for governor two years ago. See the scoop here.

  370. I’d luv to see Hill do an Ali-like taunt on Obama.

    “I’ll come to your house at 2 in the morning to debate!!”

    “Look at me! I’m loaded with confidence – and can’t possible be beat!!!”

  371. Clinton’s Texas campaign headquarters are in a familiar spot – deep South Austin, at the old Kinky Friedman camp.

    Kinky.jpg
    According to former Kinky staffers, her sign covers his face on the building that sits on Ben White Blvd. (Ave? St.?), home of the humorist, songwriter and writer’s attempted overthrow of Gov. Rick Perry during the 2006 gov campaign – one of the most watched since the GWB/Ann Richards matchup in 1994.

    Anyway, I didn’t catch this episode, but Kinky staffers who are still close with him said Kinky endorsed Hillary – possibly recently on the Bill O’Reilly show, they say. Still looking for the official endorsement comment.

  372. Idunn

    From what I get is that Hillary has about a 1000 vote lead and they are checking the 17,000 provisonal ballots for a second time to make sure they did not miss any qualified ballots.

  373. Thanks for saving my brain from a meltdown, RJK. Excellent news if true.

    Now, what would that mean in terms of delegates? Nothing would change in that respect would it?

  374. I pulled the ssssssnap from LawSchoolDem’s post!

    And I love BlueDemocrat’s suggestion, too:

    “I’ll come to your house at 2 in the morning to debate!!”

    Heeee! YEAH! I love it!!! Hill, talkin’ trash and coming with the come on! LET’S DO THIS THING!

  375. I’ve been banned at Dk. Oh, well. I’ll just do another one. Bastardbots. They can shove 👿 where the sun doesn’t shine (which was a comment made to me there). *shaking head*

    I think SEIU leaders have been riding in limos again. :mrgreen:

    BTW- I’m thinking of heading south to Tejas to do some gotv work. I have digs to stay in, just need to be pointed in the right direction and given some whiskey.

  376. Of course, you’d never see MSM come out and say so if Hillary actually won NM.

    I need a drink. A tall one. No ice. In fact, just give me the whole damned bottle.

  377. Hi everyone…as we have all discussed over and over again…no do-overs for Florida and Michigan…period…seat the delegates and count the votes…this is the USA…the Florida republican state legislature wrote the primary date into law to mess with us…the Florida Democratic party told everyone to vote on that day…the DNC knew that…over one and a half million voters went to vote where the official voting machines and authorized poll workers were…end of story…

    my feeling is if the DNC does not seat the delegates and COUNT THE VOTES – they get no $$, no votes in GE and a very loud and big headache and protest at the convention…it is absurd that when they call the states two important and large states would not be called…and then they would expect the voters to support them in the GE…no way…it would be a mockery of democracy…

    the irony here is that supposedly Dean was trying to create a 50 state strategy and give less influence to Iowa and NH…and instead it has backfired…it seems everyone thought we would have established our nominee so it would be moot and then they would be seated…now it is a crucial point in determining the nominee and there are over two million votes at stake between the two states…this is Dean’s fiasco…and they can completely forget the idea of a caucus…

    …my friend in Los Angeles sent me an email stating that if Obama is the nominee, our buddies out there will not vote for
    Obummer…hadn’t heard that one yet…I know it is silly, but Obummer!!!

  378. Don’t know if it’s true…
    but I just saw a pdf on a site that was the first page of a suit brought against Obama and his campaign manager by Larry Sinclair.

    dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=1&subcatid=2&threadid=374221&CurrentPage=8

  379. Today Austin is in the low 70’s during the day, but this will be short lived. It goes up and down a bit. Anywhere from 50-70 during the day (sometimes colder if a cold front) and 20-30 degree’s cooler at night. Cloudy, overcast, and windy.

  380. S, please use the politically correct reference to you know who- 👿

    Idunn and I are psychically protecting Big Pink from the anti-Christ, 👿 . If we let up, he will mind meld us and make us drink the kool-aid. Then he will make us smoke hopium and talk about changiness. I know that Hillary is introducing federal legislation to make holy water available on every street corner in case a coordinated 👿 bot attack.

    I’m doing research on sacred woods now and the burning of witches.

  381. I think a lot of Clinton people probably wouldn’t vote for him, especially female people, especially THIS female, because his disgusting sexist boy’s club campaign alone has been a total turnoff. So the Dem party would probably lose quite a number of votes–and also the R votes that went to him simply to beat her. Those R-voters won’t be voting for him in the GE. As I’ve said, I think his support has been overstated.

  382. Ann, I thought you said that Obama’s campaign MANAGER is Larry Sinclair! I dont’ have my glasses on….

    that would be quite interesting if Sinclair was he manager!

  383. Filbert, Austin can get chilly at night. It is also very hilly so take comfortable shoes that are not slippery (no leather soles).

  384. LawSchoolDem Says:

    February 14th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
    According to the study, Obama’s PAC and campaign committe have given out $694,000 to such superdelegates. Some 40% of the supers who support Obama received cash from him, the study finds.

    COMO SE LLAMA OBAMA? PAYOLA–CHICAGO STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  385. Isn’t SXSW where KT Tunstall got her big break?

    I first heard her tunes years ago while in austin listening to the NPR station there.

  386. SXSW has movies, film, television, music, entertainment, art, et al……it is a bit of everything and you will see alot of famous people here during that time.

    Reminder about Austin. Parking sucks. Bring a bike.

  387. SXSW sounds fun. But I doubt there will be time for anything but work.

    Hope I can rent a bike. No way I’m bringing my bike on the airplane.

  388. Billy Bragg will be at SXSW!!!! He’s from London and is a very funny story teller and singer/songwriter. usually acoustic geetar.

  389. No, it’s right after March 4th! So, after a couple nights rest, you’d be ready to go. God, I wish I could go.

  390. It doesn’t look like many out-of-state volunteers will get to see SXSW. Most, like myself, will probably be gone on March 5th.

    SXSW doesn’t start until the 7th.

  391. one more thing…and a lot of those votes that came into Florida were from early voting…so how does the DNC take all of that into account…the early voting went on for about one week prior to Jan 29…

  392. Junior Brown will be there too! They’re an Amerciana music genre band. A little like country, but more like Steve Earle.

  393. filbertsf…..the city is going to be packed during that time (SXSW). It won’t be easy to commute at all. Driving and parking in Austin (and around it) is a nightmare. It may be to your advantage that you are not going to be there during the havoc. Still, it will be alot of fun!

  394. My b-day is after SxSW. Last time I was there was right after it had
    ended and that town was DEAD. Partied out.

    I love Austin. Love it. Love it. It’s a lot like where I live in Norman. Just bigger with a shitty freeway system.

  395. Well, maybe if Hillary gets some VIP passes, she could do a raffle. This would be WONDERFUL to attract young hipsters.

  396. know what MJS meant last night. 2 union endorsements set to be unveiled today by bambi. He thinks he can swing Latinos in Texas with the one…blue collar in Ohio, Penn with the other.

  397. Does anyone feel the excitment? I’m starting to sense the energy gathering around us. Clinton does best when down. I think she’s gonna kick him flat on his booty!

  398. Damn! I would love to see SXSW!

    Anyway… I could always do GOTV stuff in TX or OH! Although RI is much closer. I am totally broke so I have no idea how I’d do it, though…

    OKieAttny! For organizing/volunteer info on TX, email the TX contact: tchalhoub @hillaryclinton.com (only WITHOUT the space between the name and the @)

  399. filbert, you may want to bring your own bike…..the hike and bike trails around Austin and Town Lake are the best in the country. You will love it.

  400. It is time to remind Democrats in the States which are yet to hold their primaries, that not to nominate Hillary Clinton is equivalent to voting for the Republicans. No matter how weak the Republican nominee it takes Hillary’s strength to win.
    ********************************************
    The democrats elites and DNC are arrogant they think people are stupid and believe that democrats will win because GWB and Cheney admin is so hated. I keep saying Republicans get elected all the time and some are popular with independents and democrats…California should be a prime example of this.

    If Obama can’t win the big states and the states democrats need to win now, why do you think he can win it in the GE where the caucus system is not in play? He can’t

    My husband had drunk the kool-aid and he really thought that democrats will lock step behind the nominee and I said, you really think that? The driver license for illegals is enough to lose California in the GE and when I told my husband that…he didn’t believe Obama promised that, he then shook his head and said I guess you’re right.

    I love Hillary’s new soldier video.

  401. Boston Globe:

    Clinton wins New Mexico caucuses
    Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor February 14, 2008 05:19 PM
    New Mexico Democratic Party officials announced this afternoon — nine days after their caucus — that Hillary Clinton narrowly defeated Barack Obama.

    Clinton received 73,105 votes to Obama’s 71,396 votes, but they will split the 26 delegates because of proportional division.

    More than 200 volunteers helped with the count, particularly of provisional ballots, officials said. They said that the turnout nearly reached 150,000 and was the highest in decades for a nominating contest.

    The state was one of 22 holding Democratic contests on Super Tuesday. Obama had won 13 and Clinton eight, pending the New Mexico result.

    Obama had won eight contests since, but this announcement sort-of-breaks that streak.

    Clinton’s campaign immediately bragged about the win, issuing a statement from her that said, “I am so proud to have earned the support of New Mexicans from across the state. From strengthening the economy to providing healthcare for every American to jumpstarting a clean energy future, New Mexicans want real solutions to our nation’s challenges.

    “As president, I will continue to stand up for New Mexico and will hit the ground running on day one to bring about real change.”

  402. you know – I like her new way of saying things. She was way too polite before. I guess she has nothing to loose now: either she wins OH adn TX and can continue or she is out. So all methods are good at this point. besides – she should stop apologizing all the time to BO. he is not a a god and if he cannot take any criticism – get out of politics. so far she leds in both states. she should make an effort in WI and Hawaii. if she will pull one of these as well – it is a big bragging issue and will shut this baffoon out for a few days.

  403. Clinton wins New Mexico caucuses
    Posted: 05:16 PM ET
    (CNN) — Hillary Clinton has officially won the New Mexico Democratic caucuses, more than a week after the state’s February 5 Election Day.

    After a nine-day vote count, Clinton now has one more delegate to add to her total. Clinton and Democratic rival Barack Obama were separated by just 1,709 votes — 73,105 for Clinton, 71,396 for Obama.

  404. jdog19 Says:

    February 14th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
    Boston Globe:

    Clinton wins New Mexico caucuses

    I know they split the delegates, but like a man who has been in the desert for a week without water, this tiny drop sure feels good!

  405. meiy,

    Texans don’t really care for unions. It’s a very blue collar state for the most part but extremely conservative. OK is a right to work state (anti-union shop) and Texas is in the same vein.

    It might help in OH or PA, but really, that endorsement is pretty late especially since he is long on rhetoric and short on results or ideas. Lunch bucket Dems remember what you do for them, not what you promise.

    I’m still laughing at what Sinclair did for 👿 Bwahahahahahahahaha

  406. Kaffeen, I never considered it before, but I think I’ll take your advice. Bringing my bike will afford me some freedom in Austin as I get to and from the HQ.

    I’m excited and nervous at the same time. We need Texas and Ohio. There’s no other way to spin it.

  407. Hillary Clinton became the official winner of the New Mexico’s February 5 Democratic Caucus on Thursday, defeating Barack Obama by 1,709 votes.

    The announcement came nine days after the caucus date.

    The official tally gave Clinton 73,105 votes to Obama’s 71,396 votes. Clinton wins 14 delegates while Obama claims 12 in the race for the party’s nominee.

    New Mexico was the last of the Super Tuesday states to release its final results due to what many voters called a fiasco at the polls. The state Democratic Party admitted it underestimated turnout by thousands of voters. Some polling places had lines lasting more than three hours.

    The biggest challenge was the over 17,000 provisional ballots cast on February 5 due to voters reporting to the wrong precinct or not appearing on voter rolls.

    Hundreds of volunteers assisted in the final tabulation of the votes, which were released Thursday afternoon.

  408. Things one must do in Austin (when not campaigning for Hillary)

    1) Listen to Live Music (Antoine’s, Continental Club, Stubb’s, et al)
    2) Get drunk on 6th Street
    3) Eat Amy’s Ice Cream
    4) Hike and Bike (Greenbelt, Town Lake)
    5) Go to Whole Foods and buy some yummie stuff
    6) Have coffee and desert at Mozart’s
    7) Visit Waterloo Records
    8) Walk South Congress (Eat Guero’s)
    9) Watch the Bats at South Congress Bridge
    10) Kayak Town Lake

  409. Richardson needs to endorse Hillary now that NM has spoken. Call him, and be nice as nice can be!

    Gov. Bill Richardson (NM)*
    505-476-2200

  410. um, looks like Obama’s campaign will be coordinating something for his campaign staff for SXSW….

    Obamaustin!
    m e a n r a c h e l – February 11, 2008
    I’ll be there, seeing what sort of C-list celebs turn up!TX Welcome Party at Victory Grill for Campaign Staffers (Organizing) It’s official. Texas is the next big battleground state. The campai… »
    where: Victory Grill
    what: Elections, Barack Obama, Politics

    source: meanrachel.blogspot.com/2008/02/obamaustin.html

  411. Just had to share this for a laugh…

    “Obama robot dolls, get one before Christmas 2008. With catch phrases like Yes we can, and Hope, and Change.” Comes with a bonus “Will I am” cd.

  412. kaffeen, how could you skip the part about the capitol of texas! um hello???? like the basement and museums. it’s quite spectacular. But, I like nerdy things that have to do with politics….

    when I was there, there was sort of protest going on on the capitol steps. forget which one….i’ve been in so many

  413. Yay NM! I was beginning to think we wouldn’t find out the results until afer the GE. Its VERY refreshing to see them take the time to check voter registration and stuff.

  414. Good evening all….interesting blogs today. I have scanned them otherwise it will be tomorrow before i finish.

    Hey, I came in and turned on TV, Breaking News on MSNBC about Hillary winning New Mexico…and of course, since it was on the National Barack Corporations television channel, Matthews blew it off and was talking to Wisconsin Gov. James Doyle and he was SO PISSY, complaiining HRC is attacking BO. HA!

    And then they never said anything else about NM. I have been away from tv/news all day. I did hear about another REPUBLICAN endorsing him…and this is worrisome? AS for Nancy Pelosi…what a jerk. Whether she endorses anyone or not. I am so glad to be here! 🙂 Makes my evening fun!

  415. oh and guess who is also going to be there playing as SXSW and will be seen on the street no doubt?????!!!! R.E. f*7king M!

  416. true, lot’s of music here, for sure. I was hoping Jack Johnson and Ben Harper would make it this year, but it looks like they are surfing and smokin’ dope somewhere else 🙁

  417. I was at the satanic site today (GOP) and found this interesting article. Whilst they are trashing Democratic spending, I found it still interesting that they are saying O-booHoo has no substance and is copying Hillary. Well, he has to get his ideas from someone intelligent, just like his speeches!!

    Thursday, February 14, 2008
    Obama: Clinton Copycat?

    Short On Substance, Obama Borrows Clinton Economic Proposals, Calls For Billions In New Spending
    Yesterday, Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Unveiled Billions More In Spending During An Economic Policy Address:
    Obama: “In the end, this economic agenda won’t just require new money. … We’ll be called upon to take part in shared sacrifice and shared prosperity.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks On Economic Policy, Janesville, WI, 2/13/08)
    Obama Proposed A National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank At A Cost Of $60 Billion Over Ten Years. Obama: “I’m proposing a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will invest $60 billion over ten years.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks On Economic Policy, Janesville, WI, 2/13/08)
    • Visit The Obama Spend-O-Meter To View His New Spending Total Of Over $874 Billion: http://www.obamaspendometer.com
    • Obama Is Quickly Catching Up To Sen. Clinton’s Total Spending; Visit The Clinton Spend-O-Meter To View Her Spending Total Of Over $888 Billion: http://www.clintonspendometer.com
    The Clinton Campaign Observed That Obama’s Infrastructure Bank And Other Economic Ideas Proposed Yesterday Weren’t So New – Sen. Clinton Had Offered Them Months Ago:
    Neera Tanden, Policy Director For The Clinton Campaign, Charged Obama With Introducing Sen. Clinton’s Economic Ideas As His Own. Neera Tanden: “Those covering Senator Obama’s economic speech in Wisconsin … could be forgiven if it felt like deja vu all over again. Voters may ask themselves that if Senator Obama cannot produce his own ideas on the campaign trail, how will he solve new problems as President? Senator Obama’s only ‘new’ ideas were ones that Senator Clinton proposed months ago …” (Ben Smith, “Claiming Theft,” The Politico’s “Ben Smith’s Blog,” http://www.politico.com, 2/13/08)
    Gene Sperling, Senior Economic Adviser To The Clinton Campaign: “Well the irony of it … was that Senator Obama seemed like he wanted to cling incredibly specifically to Senator Clinton’s ideas. You know nobody owns words but just on her … theme shared prosperity, he went after that theme some. She put out a very explicit five million jobs through green energy efficiency goal. He chose exactly to do the five million goal. And then the national infrastructure idea which Senator Dodd had proposed and Senator Clinton but not Senator Obama had proposed … he kind of came out with.” (Bloomberg News’ “Money & Politics,” 2/13/08)
    Sperling: “He was trying to show he had a bit more detail, but he seemed to be leaning a lot more heavily on Senator Clinton’s detail than I probably would have recommended had I been advising him.” (Bloomberg News’ “Money & Politics,” 2/13/08)
    “Obama’s Plan Includes … Creating An Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank That Will Invest $60 Billion Over 10 Years, Generating Nearly 2 Million New Jobs, He Estimates. Clinton’s Campaign Said She Proposed An Infrastructure Bank On Aug. 8, 2007.” (Abdon M. Pallasch, “Obama Takes Hit On Economic Policy,” Chicago Sun-Times, 2/14/08)
    • FLASHBACK: On August 2, 2007, Sen. Clinton Signed On As A Co-Sponsor Of The National Infrastructure Bank Act Of 2007. (S. 1926, Introduced 8/1/07)
    o NOTE: Obama Was Not A Co-Sponsor. (S. 1926, Introduced 8/1/07)
    “Obama Also Pledged To Invest $150 Billion Over 10 Years To Establish A Green Energy Sector That Will Create Up To 5 Million Jobs. Clinton’s Campaign Said She Proposed To Create 5 Million New Green Jobs In November.” (Abdon M. Pallasch, “Obama Takes Hit On Economic Policy,” Chicago Sun-Times, 2/14/08)
    This Isn’t The First Time Obama Has Copied Sen. Clinton’s Ideas; He Had That Habit In The Senate As Well:
    FLASHBACK: In The Senate, Obama Repeatedly “Lifted Ideas And Text From Clinton’s Bills And Repackaged Them As His Own.” “Obama has liberally lifted ideas and text from Clinton’s bills and repackaged them as his own when filing legislation in the Senate, a review of congressional rec ords show. [In April 2007] Obama unveiled a sweeping measure to help veterans, titled ‘Homes for Heroes’ – similar to Clinton’s older plan, ‘Heroes at Home.’ … Obama has cribbed ideas from Clinton’s bills on everything from voting rights to improving medical treatment, homeland security to helping veterans.” (Ian Bishop, “Barack’s Bills Hint Of Clinton Pinchin’,” New York Post, 4/16/07)
    “Political Pros Say Obama’s Pilfering Of Clinton’s Measures Is A Way To Puff Up His Slim Resume As Voters Begin Scrutinizing The Presidential Mettle Of The Contenders.” (Ian Bishop, “Barack’s Bills Hint Of Clinton Pinchin’,” New York Post, 4/16/07)

  418. Today’s endorsement of Obama by former Senator Lincoln Chaffee is hardly surprising. It can be viewed as one more predicate act in furtherance of the RNC strategy to checkmate the Democratic Party. For details see my posting at 12:39 above.

  419. TPS – yes, Asian Americans could be a gold-mine of grassroots money for Hillary – I wish on these phone banking calls we were also collecting emails because the enthusiasm I got even from Chinese Americans in VA and especially the women, were very very positive towards Clinton.

    As an AA (the Asian kind) myself, I will say that Asian American Democrats (because many are Republicans) trend towards what we know, who we know, and who has delivered and has a track record. Asians are not huge risk-takers and Obama is obviously a roll of the dice.

  420. Dot48
    I have been taking copies of the nytimes report on fdny’s endorsement of hillary to the local fire depts here in pgh. I printed up a bunch of copies i walk in I simply state that this is something that they might want to read. If they are receptive i then tell them that i lived in ny during and after sept 11 and was at first myself hesitant about hrc but as you can see they did not endorse the other but the woman who truly had thier backs. Very effective in my experience. We all have a fire department and in most royal communities they garner alot of respect. The same piece speaks to ems and police as well

  421. ya know, there’s also some locals who regard SXSW too corporate now. the bands that play in the alternative/anti SXSW a couple years ago were punk bands, who aren’t that bad.

    There’s also other groups who get together that have NOTHING to do with SXSW. They’re good too.

    God, I wish I could go….

  422. kafeen, i don’t live in Austin. i live in Atlanta, the other Austin, without a 4th or 6th street…hee hee hee

    ok, i have to go do the V-Day thing. have a good one all!

  423. the Obamabot doll is absolutely brilliant idea someone posted earlier – the one that chants Yes We Can! the earnings would be huge, and we can donate the proceeds to who else?

  424. I am just shaking my head today about what I read.

    Obama spends 600k to corrupt superdelegates? And that is legal?

    I thought the US are the cradle of democracy? I am really disgusted.

  425. Idunn

    For up to date results, every day,, go to realclearpolitics, click on “polls” scroll down left hand side and explore…it’s great, and updated as soon as states relase their numbers.

  426. Okieatty

    Do you have a list of the superdelegates that receive money from Obama’s foundation? We need to spread the word that he is buying delegates.

  427. Some analysis…

    Obama is worried that should Clinto win Ohio and Texas- she can then go hard at ‘winner-take-all’ 62 Puerto Rico delegates, PA and Kentucky- it isnt something he is hoping for. As Chris Matthews even said on MSNBC- Obama’s best chance to finish Hillary is March 4- he had to pick either Texas or Ohio and go all out- should she prevail- the face of the race takes a drastic turn.

  428. filbert, nope, i just love SXSW and austin. i’m broke and have to move soon. i live in atlanta. austin and atlanta and athens are pretty similar….i think…..at least the music. things here have died down a little though lately…..or maybe i’m just getting older! oh geeze….

    ok, now i’m leaving….

  429. LMAO! I posted a link about NM in another discussion, and an Obamaton responded by saying, “Oh, is New Mexico officially significant now?”

    To which I replied, “You mean as opposed to Delaware or Nebraska?”

    No reply back. Heh heh heh.

  430. Was just reported that the Edward’s camp has accused Obama of “shamelessly plagiarizing” his economic plan. Whether he stole Edwards’ or Hillary’s, could this mean the Edwards endorsement is finally coming her way?

  431. Just registered my 20 yr old nephew to vote he was leaning towards obama because he was under the impression that he was going to legalize marajuana he and all of his friends believe that to be the case. I had about 50 registration forms but i only reg’d my nephew as i was able to convince him of the bigger picture. He’s 20 and has sole custody of his own 18 mo old daughter. makes 15 an hour but has no health insurance. when i explained to him that his daughter does because of hrc and that he may soon be able to afford it himself he was swayed.

  432. rjk, No. I do not. I wasn’t aware the superdelegates were being paid for certain although I heard something about HopePac a number of months ago buying endorsements and coordinating with the campaign.

  433. Independent Ben Says:

    February 14th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
    Was just reported that the Edward’s camp has accused Obama of “shamelessly plagiarizing” his economic plan. Whether he stole Edwards’ or Hillary’s, could this mean the Edwards endorsement is finally coming her way?

    Source? Quotes?

  434. Clinton declared winner of New Mexico caucus
    New Mexico Democratic Party officials say Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has been declared the winner of the state’s caucuses, nine days after the Super Tuesday vote.

    After 17,000 provisional ballots were counted by hand, the final statewide count gave her a 1,709-vote edge over rival Sen. Barack Obama, 73,105 to 71,396, the Associated Press reports.

    The national delegate count now stands at 1,276 for Obama and 1,220 for Clinton, according to the AP’s running tally.

    blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/02/clinton-declare.html

  435. Clinton Targets Proposals For Hawaii
    Ahead Of Tuesday’s Caucuses, Democrat Offers Plans To Rejuvenate Tourism; Chelsea Clinton Will Visit Over Weekend

    AP) Hillary Rodham Clinton pledged Wednesday to “pay special attention to Hawaii” with plans to rejuvenate tourism, reduce reliance on foreign oil and help veterans as the islands prepare for their Democratic caucus next week.

    Clinton’s “Solutions for Hawaii” plan comes ahead of a difficult caucus vote Tuesday in the islands, where rival Barack Obama was born, raised and graduated high school.

    “I know we face an uphill battle in the state, but we plan to run a vigorous and successful campaign,” Clinton said.

    Neither candidate has planned campaign trips to Hawaii, but the Clinton campaign announced on Thursday that Chelsea Clinton will visit Hawaii over the weekend to campaign for her mother.

    The former first daughter is to appear in Honolulu tomorrow and Saturday before appearing Sunday at a rally on Maui.

    James “Kimo” Apana, Clinton’s Maui coordinator, said he hoped the appearance would “fire up” local Clinton supporters and help them feel more connected to her presidential campaign.

    Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, is also campaigning for him locally.

    If elected president, Clinton said her programs would strengthen Hawaii’s economy, invest in renewable energy and remedy a shortage of public school teachers.

    “I will pay special attention to Hawaii because I know how tourism-dependent Hawaii is,” Clinton said in a conference call with reporters from San Antonio, Texas.

    Clinton said she, too, has strong ties to Hawaii because she has visited the state five times since 1993. Also, former President Bill Clinton was responsible for signing the 1993 Apology Resolution that recognized the overthrow of the kingdom of Hawaii in 1893.

    There are only 20 delegates at stake in Hawaii on Tuesday – the same day as the Wisconsin primary – but a Clinton victory would put a dent in Obama’s recent string of wins in eight states.

    Clinton emphasized that her broad plans have specific benefits for Hawaii.

    She said she would maintain military spending, support a proposed light-rail system in Honolulu and sign into law a proposal recognizing Native Hawaiians.

    “We can make investments like light rail as we grow the economy,” Clinton said. “I will certainly help Hawaii and Honolulu deal with these problems.”

    Obama has not yet released proposals targeted at Hawaii, but campaign spokesman Brian Schatz said his views more closely reflect those of island voters.

    “Obama’s foreign policy is more in line with Hawaii’s perspective. He got the war right the first time,” Schatz said. “We think that his understanding of diversity comes from his upbringing here.”

    Clinton said her “Tour America Initiative” would bring visitors to Hawaii through a federal government-funded marketing campaign that would create a Web site to promote tourism in the United States and dispel misperceptions about difficulties of traveling to the United States.

    Her proposed $50 billion investment in researching, developing and deploying alternative energy would directly benefit Hawaii, which currently imports about 90 percent of its fuel, she said.

    A $1 billion Green Building Fund would improve energy efficiency in 84,000 buildings in Hawaii. Together, these energy programs would create 2,100 jobs in Hawaii and lower energy costs, the campaign said.

    More than 100,000 veterans living in Hawaii would benefit from Clinton’s programs by improving health care, offering loans for their business ventures and enabling Filipino World War II veterans to bring their families to the United States, she said.

    Clinton has released similar state-specific initiatives in several other states, a campaign spokeswoman said.

  436. Independent Ben

    Was just reported that the Edward’s camp has accused Obama of “shamelessly plagiarizing” his economic plan. Whether he stole Edwards’ or Hillary’s, could this mean the Edwards endorsement is finally coming her way?

    After Super tuesday I heard her speaking and she referenced Edwards and his wife many times. She also said some vague reference to Edwards somehow being involved, i believe in her healthcare plan if she were elected. Few days later it came out she had been to see him. Obama was also scheduled to visit him but that visit was cancelled, when pressed the Obama camp said it was cancelled and was not re-scheduled. Wish he’d get off his arse. She would use the endorsement NOW!!!
    Maybe this recent thing with Obama will do the deed. Obams getting so full of himself I think he is a loose cannon!! I say, give him enough rope…………………………………….

  437. Just announced: Hillary wins New Mexico! And picks up an extra delegate — and as we all know, COUNT EVERY DELEGATE!!!

    😀

  438. rjk1957, to win a caucua, you need oraganization on the ground. hillary may have majority of people support her in HI, but she needs an oranization to get people to caucus.

  439. Idunn
    if I cannot vote for hrc on ballot then i am writing in your name. each day i get a littlekick out of you

  440. that sounds like campaign language from the Edwards campaign “shameless plagiarizing” – I am optimistic something actually happening with Edwards.

  441. Idunn
    my older brother was not happy today when i emailed him and told him if he had ann coulter tied to a stake ready to be burned that he had to let her go as you had given her a reprieve

  442. Asian Americans Outraged by CNN Election Report

    New America Media, News Report, Jun Wang, Posted: Feb 14, 2008

    Editor’s Note: A CNN report that blames Asians’ support of Clinton on their hesitancy to vote for a black president is insulting and inaccurate, argue Asian Americans.

    Asian Americans are outraged over a recent CNN report that attributes their support for Hillary Clinton to their hesitancy to vote for a black president.

    The three-minute video piece, “Asian Americans to Vote for Hillary Clinton Across the Nation,” aired on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees on Feb. 8.

    People with different Asian accents unanimously spoke out one name — “(Hillary) Clinton” — when asked for whom they planned to vote. The report identified two major causes for Asian Americans’ support of Clinton, according to viewers: that they were “fearful of a black presidential candidate and/or fearful of change.”

    Samson Fu, 27, a health care project manager with no former political experience, started circulating a petition among the Asian community on Feb. 10. The petition gained sponsorship from the “80-20 Initiative,” an Asian American political action committee headquartered in New York.

    The petition called CNN’s coverage “a misleading portrayal behind why 75 percent of Asian Americans voted for Sen. Hillary Clinton. Gary Tuchman (the reporter) seems to insinuate those Asian American votes as racially motivated and/or fearful of change.”

    On the contrary, the petition points out that Asian Americans, especially first generation immigrants, “by their choice to come to a new land, are by and large the least fearful of changes.”

    It urges CNN to take the video off of their Web site and run another segment with balanced reporting and include the rise of political cohesiveness within the Asian American community.

    The petition collected more than 2,000 signatures and about 900 comments in two days. A copy of the petition letter, with more than 800 pages of signatures and comments, has been sent to CNN.

    Samson Fu and S.B. Woo, the former lieutenant governor of Delaware and founder of the “80-20 Initiative,” have been in conversation with CNN’s top executives. John Liu, New York City councilman, plans to hold a press conference late this week if CNN doesn’t respond to the petition.

    The CNN video is “biased, more of an opinion piece than investigative reporting,” Fu told New America Media. “CNN should be held responsible for making Asians appear racist, which is not true. Fu added that many of his friends were equally insulted by the report. “I initiated the petition to capture their feelings.”

    Asian American viewers were also critical of CNN’s choice to interview only Asian Americans with heavy accents. One comment on the petition asks, “What is up with white people choosing only the non-fluent Asian population for the interviews… making Asian people look like dumb-asses, who don’t know English? I’m thinking prejudice and racism… What do you think?”

    Another comment on the petition agrees, saying, “Many Asian Americans are educated and speak English very well. Perhaps you should represent our community more accurately.”

    From Filipinos to Asian Indians, Asian Americans are a diverse group, says Samson Fu. They come from dozens of countries and cultural backgrounds. In cities like Seattle, Fu adds, it isn’t hard to interview a larger variety of Asians – instead of just talking to people in a Japanese teahouse.

    Born in Hong Kong, Fu came to the United States at the age of five and spent 19 years in South Carolina before moving to Los Angeles three years ago. He says he didn’t know any other Asians in South Carolina.

    “South Carolina’s population is black and white,” he says, “but I experienced no racial tension there at all. My black friends invited me home and cooked for me. They treated me like everyone else.”

    As an Asian American growing up with black friends in South Carolina, Fu says he appreciates the idea of having a black president of the United States. “If you’ve ever traveled outside this country, you know that when people talk about America, they think of Caucasians, white people,” says Fu. “A black president will let people know we’re a multiracial country.”

    Asian Americans have supported Clinton in large numbers for a variety of reasons, Fu argues in his petition. “One important factor in Asian Americans’ preference of Sen. Clinton over Sen. Obama may be the endorsement of Sen. Clinton by the 80-20 Initiative, because she signed an iron-clad promise to bring equal opportunity in workplaces for all Asian Americans a month and a half before Obama did.”

    The election is “not about race and skin color,” Fu adds. “We African Americans, Asian Americans and other racial groups are one America.”

    S. B. Woo, who was born in Shanghai and moved to the United States in 1956 at the age of 18, shares Fu’s perspective of the unity of Americans and is hoping for a “win-win” resolution with CNN.

    news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=44cb40c466e5c8e91f4d0e557ef911bc

  443. Amazing, isn’t it? Anyone who doesn’t support Obama do so because he’s black.

    New Hampsters didn’t give Obama the win b/c they’re “secret racists.”

    Nevadans and New Mexicans chose Hillary b/c they’re Hispanics and Hispanics just won’t vote for a black man.

    I must a racist, too, b/c I despise the phony.

  444. The Florida Michigan piss-fest is gaining more and more news. Cafferty, quote from Clinton last year ““It’s clear, this election they’re having is not going to count for anything.”

    That is an OBSERVATION, not an AGREEMENT.

    They are going to spin this for all they can, as we know.

    It’s just like Rendell’s statement about some people “not ready to vote for an AA”

    It’s an observation, not a biggoted remark. These people kill me.

  445. thx for that post Carbynews – I saw that CNN segment on Asian Americans and why they support Clinton, and the last woman they interviewed has a heavy Chinese accent and literally says she likes the “white lady” referring to Clinton. It was a totally offensive segment. I hadn’t seen the petition, but hell, I would’ve signed it.

  446. woohoo! Asian Americans bringing CNN down now. Yes, yes, yes, This shitty media needs to be flushed down the toilet. IDunn, please use your powers to arrange that big satellite to split in 3 pieces to destroy CNN, MSNBC and FoxNews. Preferably midnite shift so noone is hurt but then again if just parts fall at certain desks…oh, well.

  447. The tie is broken: Absentee voters help Clinton carry Syracuse
    Posted by John Mariani February 14, 2008 9:53AM
    Categories: Breaking News, Government, Politics
    The tie is broken in the Democratic race for president in Syracuse.

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton wound up tied in the city with Sen. Barack Obama when Onondaga County election officials added up voting machine totals on primary night, Feb. 5.

    Each received 6,001 ballots.

    A re-canvass of voting machines and the addition of absentee and other paper ballots broke the deadlock in Clinton’s favor. Her city total now stands at 6,449 votes, compared with 6,363 votes for Obama, county Republican Election Commissioner Helen Kiggins said.

    The totals remain unofficial pending certification, which could happen as soon as today, Kiggins said.

    Countywide, Clinton received 23,907 votes, about 61 percent, while Obama polled 13,928 votes, about 36 percent. John Edwards, who dropped out before the primary, came in a distant third with 448 votes, about 1 percent.

    On the Republican side, the paper count nibbled into John McCain’s victory margin, but the Arizona senator’s total grew to 13,169 votes, or 49 percent of the GOP total, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 7,881 votes (29 percent), former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee with 2,906 votes (11 percent) and Texas Rep. Ron Paul with 1,339 votes (5 percent).

    Some 39,066 Democrats entered the voting booths or cast absentee ballots, about a 44 percent turnout, while 26,916 Republicans voted, about 30 percent of the party’s county registrants.

    The figure doesn’t count 812 people who voted by affidavit ballot but had their ballots rejected by the Board of Elections, Kiggins said. Nearly three-quarters were rejected because they were not enrolled in the party whose primary they sought to vote in, Kiggins said.

    blog.syracuse.com/news/2008/02/the_tie_is_broken_absentee_vot.html

  448. Would you guys rather have Fl and Michigan not seated or have another caucus/election?? I just wish they would do something about it, quickly. The chances of them seating the delegates at this point is slim and this whole situation is just ridiculous. They are already trying to taint this as “Hillary won because she’s an insider” with the delegates and such.

  449. CarbyNew…there was a post on thr HC.com blogs after this story ran that was the most eloquent response I have read. This article mirrors her stance. Also, the only Asian CNN interviewed who spoke with an “american accent” was for…gee….i’ll give you three guesses….

    Now, on other News (hack) David Broder just described Bambi as “A better EXECUTIVE”, based on his campaign organization.

  450. Good evening, Hillfans. Could I enlist your help in spreading a couple links?

    This is the one about Bambi’s superdelegates, including the new report about his “donations” to the ones endorsing him.

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/one-degree-of-separation-obamas.html

    This one is about Bambi’s SD David Wilhelm, who is also involved with Blagojevich and Rezko.

    rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/one-degree-of-separation-obama.html

    Thanks. I really want to drive some traffic to those links right now.

  451. Also, the only Asian CNN interviewed who spoke with an “american accent” was for…gee….i’ll give you three guesses….

    Ummm…Connie Chung?

  452. Dot…the US military will do that satellite thing for you. They are going to try their Star Wars technology again to blast the defunct spy satellint out of the sky.

  453. On Super Tuesday, Clinton and Obama vied for 26 of New Mexico’s 38 delegates to this summer’s Democratic National Convention. Twelve so-called superdelegates are not bound by caucus results.

    New Mexico awards Democratic delegates proportionally, based on statewide vote totals and on the results in individual congressional districts.

    In two of the state’s three congressional districts, Clinton and Obama equally split an even number of delegates at stake. In District 2, which had an uneven number of delegates, Clinton won the additional one by outpolling Obama by 55 percent to 41 percent, according to unofficial results.

    Nine statewide delegates were at stake. Obama and Clinton evenly split the eight delegates already awarded. The final one was assigned to the statewide popular vote winner.
    http://www.star-telegram.com/464/story/474967.html

    Hey, Obama and Axelrod! Which of you guys is going to tell Bill Richardson he has to support HIllary now? And tell the other 12 NM delegates, who under the Old Guard Rules of the Past were free to choose who to support.

  454. “Now, on other News (hack) David Broder just described Bambi as “A better EXECUTIVE”, based on his campaign organization.”

    But in the 90s, when speaking of Bill Clinton, Broder sneered and said Campaigning is the exact opposite of running the executive branch.

    Hypocrite.

  455. wrong link
    i was hoping to find the presidential endorsement which i cannot find but
    still think it would be relevent if we all stopped into our local firehouses with the endorsement of the fdny. The true heoes of 9/11 recognize herand i think a little ground work by us in reminding them of the endorsement could go far. I have said before in small towns the ems/pd/fd carry alot of weight. If we all simply dropped off copies of the endorsement it might help. esp pa and ohio

  456. I hope Cafferty’s head explodes, he is absolutely despicable. He ranks right up there with Hannity and Matthews.

  457. Idunn..no!!! I’m disappointed in ya!

    Sean used to get all agitated in this seat and say “we got to stop the Hillary express”. I hope he gets ass cancer and we burn him

  458. iDUNN.. THE guy WHO SPOKE CLEAR AMERICAN ENGLISH was an Obamabot. The Hillary supporters were all women, with very heavy Asian accents. It was a PATHETIC story.

  459. tim, you can google it.

    newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny–nyprimary-firefig0131jan31,0,913060.story

  460. THE guy WHO SPOKE CLEAR AMERICAN ENGLISH was an Obamabot.

    Figures. Anyway, I’m glad Asian Americans spoke out. Good for them.

  461. If more people could get their mind around the fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton really is the candidate of the people, and Obama is the candidate of wealthy elites we would win this election hands down.

    For me the proof statement is the fact that at the very beginning of her career she was offered a clear choice between working for a big salary at a K Street law firm or a small salary working to help children, and she chose the latter.

    How many Yale Law School Graduates like her do you believe would do that? One out of ten if you are lucky and none of them would have the immense talents that she has. So this is really a rare thing. It shows a commitment to social justice reminiscent of Bobby Kennedy.

    At the end of the day that is what the right wing and vested interests do not like about her: her commitment to social justice . And why is that? It is because they live in a safe secure world where activist government means taxes and their response to that is pavlovian. But for the rest of us effective government action can be the difference between a decent life and a miserable one. Maxine Waters said it so succintly: we do not need more hope. We need help.

  462. bambi’s website has more than 20 events planned within a 100 mile radius of Pittsburgh my zip 15227 Hillary = 0

  463. tim, I suspect, and I don’t know this for sure, they are concentrating on Ohio, Texas, with some Wisconsin thrown in right now. Their money is short, so they are probably having to make some difficult choices. If everyone keeps contributing, it will happen.

  464. Was just reported that the Edward’s camp has accused Obama of “shamelessly plagiarizing” his economic plan. Whether he stole Edwards’ or Hillary’s, could this mean the Edwards endorsement is finally coming her way?

    That’s exactly what it sounds like, they’re setting it up;
    I said this morning I wanted New Mexico, Edwards & Richardson today.

    That Hill has a wicked new stump speech makes this a turning point kind of day. We even won Syracuse!

  465. I am Asian AMerican and I will never ever in a thousand years support Barack obama OVER Hillary Clinton.

    In fact, if Obama were to win the nomination, I start campaigning, phone banking, donating, and canvassing for McCain and will divulge Obama campaign tactics to the McCain campaign.

    That’s how much i DISLIKE the idea of an Obama presidency now. face it, our country right now is screwed and only a person with plenty of experience and know-how can clean it up. Does Obama fit that description? no. He’s all fine and dandy if you want to go play in a flower garden with him or decide that he should run for president of the kindergarten class, but the skills required to be the PRESIDENT OF THE US of A should be skills built up and perfected through decades of experience.

    And so far, Obama doesn’t even truly have a full YEAR of hands-on American political experience. ALl he has is dirty tricks, his empty lame suit, and that shitty attitude of criticizing two of the best people the American public has had working for them for nearly forty years now.

  466. Ohio Secretary of State re: Clinton huge lead in Ohio. “It will close considerably since the Clinton’s are playing the race card”

    Bastards.

  467. Was just reported that the Edward’s camp has accused Obama of “shamelessly plagiarizing” his economic plan.

    He’s said that in the past too. So again, before we all go nuts over this, I want to see a link to a source proving that it’s current.

  468. Taylor Marsh had copies of the Dem for a Day fliers posted on her website. You should be able to find the link there. I’d also suggest just doing a Google image search for it. I find lots of things that way.

  469. Idunn
    I have been doing that for two weeks
    i have been well rec’d and depending on how well i was rec’d i would then proceed to let them know that i was in new york before during and after. that it was my home. and that she came through for all of new york but especially for first responders, the reason that i posted my results was that i hoped maybe if each of us visited our local departments and just left copies of the endorsements it could have an effect- look at what belzabub has been able to do with the collegiate set. I keep screaming that these service depts carry weight in small towns and tx oh pa wi have a lot of those.

  470. Arianna Huffington, polishing more Obama Knob:

    “Even as Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign was blasting Sen. Barack Obama for his ties to the Exelon Corporation, the firm of Mark Penn, Clinton’s chief strategist, was earning hundreds of thousands of dollars from the very same nuclear energy giant.
    This past week, Burson Marsteller, Penn’s powerhouse consulting agency, was paid more than $230,000 by Exelon to help renew a nuclear energy license in New Jersey, the Huffington Post has learned. The payment was for work that took place over several months, and Burson is still employed by the company.

    “They did some work for us in New Jersey between June and November,” said Craig Nesbit, vice president of communications for Exelon Generation, a subsidiary. “That bill was invoiced on December 12 and it just took that long to pay these things… We still are paying them a little bit but it is ramping down.”

    It has been public knowledge that Exelon is a client of Burson. But news of the recent payment comes less than two weeks after the Clinton campaign, and Penn himself, took Obama to task for what they implied was preferential treatment for the company.”

  471. WELL FUCK THE OHIO SECRETARY OF STATE. FUCK ANYONE WHO SPEWS MISOGYNISTIC CRAP ABOUT HILLARY. FUCK ANYONE WHO CALLS ANYONE WHO HAS THE BALLS TO CRITICIZE OBAMA ON STUFF “A RACIST.” I HOPE ALL THESE OBAMBI LIARS AND HYPOCRITES JUST DROP DEAD.

  472. spacegirl,

    LOL. :D! Obama Beer!

    “Kenyans are going crazy for it but McKenzie says maybe it’s coz it’s very strong and very cheap.” :LOL:

    BTW – I’m trying to find out more about Donna Brazile. I saw on the DNC site that she’s the chair of the Voting Rights Institute, a committee to protect voters from fraud and disenfranchisement. So why isn’t she supporting the rights of Fl and MI voters?

  473. Huff can polish his knob all she wants, but how does a campaign strategist and his company that employs him have anything to do with writing legislature for Exelon?

  474. Ohio Secretary of State re: Clinton huge lead in Ohio. “It will close considerably since the Clinton’s are playing the race card”

    What race card? What the hell is it now? Bill said he liked Billy Graham better than Al Sharpton? Hillary said Barack was a good guy, and thus actually meant that she loved the good ole boy system down south?

    GOD, this shit is so lame!

  475. SpaceGirl,
    You heard that, huh? The guy’s a criminal, steered the ’04 elections to Bush. Blackwell’s just doing his job trying to damage the Clintons.

    Remember that next time you hear Hill’s dead. If so, why are they still attacking?

    Networks thus far from what I’ve seen haven’t shown Hill’s stump speech. She must keep giving it, adding to it’s intensity, over & over.
    Then it can’t be ignored.
    Plus I’m sure it’s getting lots of local media attention.

  476. MJS, YEAH! Well said.

    ++++++++++

    On another note, I hate MSNBC. I have to go make dinner. Hillary Haters from Ohio paling around with Matthews. I hate Matthews too. And CNN. Maybe it’s time for a movie. And I hate it that my EVENING “news” has turned into total BS about Hillary Clinton, wall to wall.

    I am going to love to see these A**H**** eat their words. But they won’t, and they will blast her for eight years. I hate these guys.

  477. sorry for blasting off there, but seriously, these idiots PISS ME OFF. HOW STUIPD do American people have to be to allow this idiot to even have a SHOT at the nomination? PATHETIC. If Americans ever nominate him, I will only remember how stupid the majority of AMericans are and how ashamed I am to be an American.