Today Is Fight Back And Donate Day

Update: ‘Albenda’, from the comments, says: let’s tell our husbands, spouses and significant others !!!!!!! SKIP THE FLOWERS AND MAKE A DONATION TO HILLARY!!!

A testimonial from the Hillary Clinton front page: “Go Hillary! When we elect the next President, she will be the 44th President of the U.S. Every payday and days in between, I pledge to contribute to the campaign at least $14.44, in the spirit that Hillary will be our 44th President.” – Jill from Pompano Beach, FL

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Today is the day to donate. February 12, 2008

Contribute directly to the campaign:

CONTRIBUTE

LawSchoolDem writes:

If you have a Facebook account, write a note encouraging others to participate in tomorrow’s today’s money bomb. If you have a MySpace account, write a bulletin encouraging others to participate in tomorrow’s today’s money bomb. If you have access to the internet, e-mail your friends and co-workers or post an ad on Craigslist encouraging others to participate in tomorrow’s today’s money bomb.

I have copied the text of OkieAttny’s web site and used it as my announcement, included here for your use:

We’ve got a unique opportunity to help our country by helping our candidate of choice, Hillary Clinton. She’s been there for us time and time again, so let’s show our support and the strength of our cause by each donating $10.44 on February 12, 2008.

Here are the reasons:

First, Obama supporters think they own democracy. Let’s show them they don’t. Democracy belongs to the people and leaders should be in it for the people, not for cult-like adulation.

Second, if they can give $5, we can give $10. If they can give a pint of blood, we can give two. Point is, our resolve is bigger than theirs. We will make it hurt twice as much because we are stronger and our candidate is better.

Third, the 44 cent designation shows we have faith that she is destined to be “44.” Hillary Clinton is and will be the 44th President of the United States of America.

Fourth, the small amount is doable for the majority of people. If you question whether it is for you, forgo eating out that day or give another amount, but leave the 44 cent designation to show you know Hillary is 44.

Fifth and more importantly, we have our girl’s back. She’s not only fighting a tough campaign, but she is also fighting the MSM, the GOP and the rampant sexism ingrained in our society. We have her back, and in times like these where her message is being drowned out by the evil that men do, we can help buy her a little more voice so that our voice, the voice of the people- the voice of the disenfranchised voters in Florida and Michigan, the poor, the elderly, the infirm without access to medical care, the veterans deserted by their own countrymen……. IS HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR.

So join us on February 12th and show some love for our girl. Go to HillaryClinton.com and donate $10.44 and make sure the rest of the world hears the message that Hillary is 44!

If you want to see Hillary as the 44th President – donate to her campaign. If you value all the work Hillary has done for 35 years – donate to her campaign. If you want to bring a smile to Hillary and her campaign staff and volunteers – donate to her campaign. If you want Universal health care – donate to her campaign. If you want to feel good and powerful and energized – donate to her campaign.

If you are sick of all the Big Media attacks on Hillary — If you are sick of MSNBC and NBC with all those twitching boys and girls who have yet to grow up — If you are sick of attacks on Chelsea and Bill and Hillary — If you are sick of all those big name Democrats endorsing Obama — If you are sick of all those big name Democrats not standing by Hillary — If you are sick of the smell of sulfuric Orange sites attacking Hillary — If you are sick of Josh and Arriana and assorted other PINOs and Kooks — if you are sick of all the attacks on Hillary – Donate to her campaign.

The easiest way to help the Hillary campaign right now is to donate money to help get the message out. Get family and friends to contribute too. Campaign suggestions help, calls help alot, volunteer time donated is a big contribution – but right now the quickest and easiest way to help all those campaign workers and volunteers, and Hillary, is to send some cash. Help make Hillary 44 by making a donation.

Go HERE to find out more about the online fundraiser scheduled for this Tuesday, February 12, 2008. $10.44 is the ticket.

Please distribute the news of this online fundraiser on as many blogs and lists as possible. Send the news of the fundraiser to as many contacts as possible by email too.

Contribute directly to the campaign:

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Contribute Directly To Hillary Above — Add .44 cents to the dollar amount of your Hillary For President Campaign contribution in order to let Hillary know of her grassroots support.

Every time the campaign sees .44 cents as part of the contribution, the Campaign will know the contribution comes from the real netroots/grassroots.

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1,053 thoughts on “Today Is Fight Back And Donate Day

  1. Awesome! – so here’s a tongue-in-cheek idea for Money Bomb and Craigslist – put it in the Women 4 Women section!

  2. hi hillfans, i just contributed my $10.44 for the 12th of feb online fundraising drive. i will do more the next payperiod. feels great being a part of this. LET’S RAISE $20 MILLION!!!! YAY!!! THEY ARE HOPPIN ON HILLARYCLINTON.COM BLOG ALSO.

  3. Great terrondt. You were one of the very first comment writers on this site so thanks for all the support to the Pink site too.

    BTW, did you see that the Hillary Clinton front page has a comment from someone in Florida who donated and added 44 cents? It’s the next to last comment. The last comment is very touching.

  4. C’mon Hillfans — this is when she NEEDS US MOST. 🙂

    This is a historic, epic, and heavyweight battle of a primary, and it’s time to give whatever you can: your donation, your labor, and your support.

    The long road to Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania will be built by all of us. Let’s get to work!

  5. good morning, everyone! donated already (yes, with the 44 cents) to help make our girl competitive and then win. every little bit helps.also, asked my friends and coworkers to contribute whatever amount they can afford.

  6. For those of you (like myself for many months) who just read from this site but have not written yet, maybe after you give Hillary your contribution today you can log on and say hello. Don’t be shy. Would be nice to hear from you all. Let’s create some enthusiasm! For Hillary!

  7. mollyrichards, that $10.44 is fine. that number will add up if 125,000 give that amount. for months i have the hillary campaign take out $10.00 automatically taken out monthly from my checking account. it is what i can afford. almost anybody can afford $10.44. tax refunds are due also so many people will be able to give some money.

  8. i will be home all day tuesday except some errands. i will stay away from big media tuesday night. i will get the primary results from here. hillary will gain delegates tuesday. obama will not pull heavily away like big media is trying to lead us to believe.

  9. Two stanzas from a poem which help me stay focused on the ultimate goal through the ups and downs and ups of life:

    -IF-

    By Rudyard Kipling

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
    But make allowance for their doubting too,
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

    If you can dream–and not make dreams your master,
    If you can think–and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

    Hillary is 44

  10. * Repost (Originally posted: February 11th, 2008 at 6:19 pm) :

    CONTRIBUTE:

    operation104goodbuddy.blogspot.com

    contribute.hillaryclinton.com/

    120,165 DONORS IN FEBRUARY

    UPDATED: 123,489 DONORS IN FEBRUARY

    “Donated $50.00 last night and another $50.00 tonight to answer the call! I’ve never contributed to a campaign before. i wasn’t sure I’d ever live long enough to see a woman President! I can’t tell you how that means to me! I am so greatful to this strong courageous woman for walking this path.”
    – Teresa from Decatur, GA

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    “I am an independent voter, a a veteran and a generally cranky conservative. My wife and I and my daughters have all contributed have all contributed to you Hillary and we will again. This is too important a time to have you run out of money. Stay strong and Good Luck.”
    – Phil from Tempe, AZ

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    “I am so happy I just gave a $10 donation and I plan to give another $10 next week. I hope this can help Hillary. I wish I could send her more. I will try my best to give her as much as I possibly can. Go Hillary!! You can do it!!!!!!”
    – Audrey from Staten Island, NY

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    “I am a 43 year old woman who has never voted in my lifetime. Within the last 6 months, I have been inspired to not only get involved in the political process and have registered to vote, but I want to be part of history by electing Hillary Clinton as President of the United States. I have just made my second contribution to her campaign. Go Hillary!”
    – Susan from Pottstown, PA

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    “I just asked my wife where I can take her for dinner on Valentine’s. She said it would really mean a lot more to her if I contributed the dinner money instead to Hillary. I just did.”
    – Rene from Sugar Hill, GA

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    “Go Hillary! When we elect the next President, she will be the 44th President of the U.S. Every payday and days in between, I pledge to contribute to the campaign at least $14.44, in the spirit that Hillary will be our 44th President.”
    – Jill from Pompano Beach, FL

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    “I donated 10 dollars last night and will donate more tonight. I am 22 years old, married with 2 children. I am not even in the middle class. I am low class. I will donate and work as hard as I can to help Hillary win. My two daughters are 2 and 4 and we chant and cheer for Hillary at every speech we see. I want them to know anything is possible.”
    – Paul from Clearfield, PA

  11. B. Merryfield, “disgusting” and “deceptive” are synonyms for Obama.

    BTW, texan4hillary posted the link to Hillary hitting Obama on Rezko. Best defense is a good offense. We like that Hillary is hitting the media on its bias and bringing up Rezko at the same time. Good. [Hope Texan4Hillary is right and that Maggie is bringing a “fight” philosophy to the campaign. Maybe now they will bring up the freezing tenants.]

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/PoliticoWJLA_wrap.html

    JOHN HARRIS: But, Senator, you and President Clinton have spent most of your career up till 2000 in public service. Since then he, on behalf of both of you, made a lot of money and that money is now playing a role in the campaign since you made a loan to your campaign. Why not give that information to voters while it still makes a difference in the Democratic contest? If transparency’s important, just do it now.

    SENATOR CLINTON: But, John, we have. I mean, all of our sources of income are public information. The $5 million that I gave as a loan to my campaign comes out of my money. There isn’t any surprises here. And, in fact, you know, our financial situation has probably has been more investigated than anybody who’s ever been in public life in America. We still don’t have a lot of answers about Senator Obama and his dealings with Mr. Rezko. So I don’t mind answering questions, but I find it only fair that we have questions going to the other side as well, and I don’t see that happening. You know, we have been on the front line of full disclosure. I’ve been examined one side up and the other side down. I’m more than happy to have that. But I think it’s fair that we have the same standards apply to my opponent.

  12. Doing my morning solo think-tanking on Rezbama and came across the following. This really puts the red flags up — especially the mention of ROVE.

    The day after Obama won the Senatorial election, President George W. Bush called him, announcing, “You’re one articulate fella!” The two ended up chatting for 10 minutes, according to one of Obama’s aides. Two weeks later, Obama accepted an invitation to the White House and had breakfast with President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and political strategist Karl Rove.

    http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan05/cover.php

  13. rjk1957, I do think that this WAS when the Repugs figured out the plan of attack and they’ve been at it ever since. Can you imagine Hillary ever having done such a thing?

  14. Lack of judgement on his part. Seems like his ego got the best of him right off the bat. Interesting that when he took his Senate seat with the 2006 class he got them all together and warned them all to be leary of Senior Senators and their agendas.

  15. Notice that ten weeks after the Bush phone call Rezbama gets called back for a meetup with Bush, Cheney and Rove. Looks like somebody did their “vetting” right then and wanted face time to size things up.

  16. I just posted at
    http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/101526/ShowForum.aspx?ArticleID=2184207

    The stock is going up as long as it is going up. — Adam Smith

    Different candidacies need ‘momentum’ for different things. Some needed it for contributions and media coverage (they’re out now). Obama seems to have unlimited money but needs to be seen as a movement, energy of the moment….

    Personally I think of Hillary’s money as unilmited, but when she transferred $5mil and people thought she needed money, lots of people sent her some. (Today is another money bomb day.) For many of her core supporters (blue collar, and little old ladies like me), there’s no queston of supporting anyone else, just of how much energy we spend. Bad news for Hillary, or insults in the headlines, brings us out to donate or to vote (nothing brings us out to caucus except safety in numbers, as in Las Vegas). And we’re counter-impressed with a candidacy (or a media) that puts much stock in ‘momentum’.

    Why 100 suiperdelegates are supporting Obama I don’t know, but hopefully the other 700 remember 1972. (McGovern has endorsed Hillary already; presumably he learned something.)

  17. Just did it. Hope many, many more do as well.

    First time posting on the site….have truly been appalled by the media bias and piling on. One thing is clear to me….in their desperation to seem hip, cool and relevant by embracing the new, new thing; most media mavens have lost the one thing on which their credibility lies – objectivity.

    We have to keep up the good fight.

  18. Just made my online contribution for $10.44 – fourth donation this month – and happy to do so. Pray Hillary turns loose after tonight and lets him have it, no holds barred. Understand why she has to hold off to a great degree until after tonight, but after that – Katy bar the door. She needs to come out swinging against NBC, needs to name names, etc. Let’s keep the faith, and pray for her health and her staff’s health right now – both mental and physical. We so need her leadership at this crucial juncture in our nation’s history. AND CALL FOR SEATING FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN AS THEY STAND! FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN NEED TO CALL OUT FOR VOTE AS IT STANDS! THEY ALL NEED TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION TODAY!

  19. S ,

    Welcome! Your ideas are great, especially “big, small, colorful, clever…kids for hillary…husbands for hillary…republicans for hillary….get them where the cameras can see them at all times…”

  20. Incidentally, while I’m not a traditionally religious person (I’m a Qabalist), I do believe in God and the power of prayer. For those of us who are people of faith (whatever faith that may be)…let’s ALL send up some powerful prayers for our girl today.

  21. Now we are getting to the core of where the media brought racism into the campaign. Same article, re Bob Herbert’s 06/04/04 NYT article (cited below) BEFORE his DNC speech:

    On June 4, New York Times columnist Bob Herbert pitched for Obama.

    “In a political era saturated with cynicism and deceit, Mr. Obama is asking voters to believe him when he talks about the values and verities that so many politicians have lied about for so long. He’s asking, in effect, for a leap of political faith.”

    Herbert crafted two cover stories, as to why voters should support Obama: 1. He is a left-of-center candidate whose message transcends partisanship; and 2. He is black. (Actually, Obama is biracial; one can only call him “African-American” by reading his white mother out of his genetic code. If anyone tries to read me out of my biracial son’s genetic code, I’ll knock him on his butt.)

    Forget number one. Herbert wants Illinoisans to elect Barack Obama to the Senate, because Herbert has defined him as black. Imagine how Bob Herbert and millions of other black and white “liberals” would react, if a white columnist called on voters to elect a political candidate, merely because the latter was white (or was defined by the writer as white).

    And Herbert is an Obama cheerleader on all the info-news shows. Easy to see how we got here from there.

    query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F07E1D81231F937A35755C0A9629C8B63

  22. Sorry, Idunn, but the question has been bouncing around for weeks about who was first to bring racism/the race card into the campaign. Here it is simply explained. Better to know the where/why and be able to explain it than have to defend Hillary and Bill against the accusations.

    It was the media and the power brokers bringing it to the fore nearly FOUR YEARS AGO.

  23. And for all those who have been saying that Bill is wasting his time going to speak in AA churches, there may be some truth to that — except that it does bring a % of the AA to Hillary she may have not gotten otherwise — comes from the same article:

    Abigail and Stephan Thernstrom wrote in America in Black and White, “while black candidates can usually count on almost every black vote, whites who run in a racially diverse setting have no such advantage.” Black candidates have won white majorities in cities with small black populations, but white candidates running against black opponents must usually write off the black vote.

  24. By the way, I’m DELIGHTED to see Hillary punching back at Bambi for a change. It’s long overdue.

    Thanks Maggie!

  25. In the presidential campaign it is MO that injected racism when she remarked “Black America will wake up and get it”

  26. This is weird… Christopher Kelly headed Blagojevichs’ campaign fund and was indicted for tax fraud.

    thecapitolfaxblog.com/2007/12/13/chris-kelly-indicted/

    When I scanned Kelly’s name for more info, the first link was to OB’s site and a blog done by Christopher Kelly.

    This HAS to be just a coinincidence, doesn’t it? It couldn’t be the same Chris Kelly.

  27. CD99

    Aided and abetted by Eugene Robinson followed w/in 10 minutes by Chris Matthews, both of whom were trying to understand BO’s NH loss to Hillary.

    Robinson brought up “the Bradley Effect”, they went to commercial and updated returns, and by the time Chris Matthews chimed in when they were back on camera, the Bradley Effect was the answer.

    Further, it was the fault of the racially biased NH citizens who had come out in large numbers at the last minute for Hillary.

    And we were off to the racist races…all because Eugene Robinson wasn’t man enough to accept the loss without blaming someone.

  28. I donated today, added my .44 at the end and said prayer for Hillary first thing this morning.

    Will be sending support messages to her throughout the day. Everyone let them know in your support messages that they also need ground troops in the states….

  29. Oh how delicious, repugs are already swarming the Rezko thing!

    But a source familiar with the case confirmed that Obama is the unnamed `political candidate’ referred to in a section of the document that accuses Rezko of orchestrating a scheme in which a firm hired to handle state teacher pension investments first had to pay $250,000 in `sham’ finder’s fees. From that money, $10,000 was donated to Obama’s successful run for the Senate in the name of a Rezko business associate, according to the court filing and the sources…. Rezko, who was part of Obama’s senatorial finance committee, also is accused of directing `at least one other individual’ to donate money to Obama and then reimbursing that individual–in possible violation of federal election law.”

    These revelations represent just the tip of the iceberg, according to U.S. intelligence sources, who confirm that the Rezko trial will be full of surprises.

  30. Just a thought.
    Remember when Caroline Kennedy indicated her kids had urged her to support BO, and she did?
    I know Tweetie has 3 college age kids coz he talks about them on his show. His daughter, he says, may one day take over his position. One of his sons is an ‘aspiring’ actor. Forgot about the other one.
    My point is, I’ll bet they’ve encouraged his biased BO coverage. i wonder just how many of these ‘kids’ are spinning BO to their influential media parents and woouldn’t it be ironic if it worked?
    (Posted now coz i just woke up and will forget if I don’t write it down).

  31. ********TEST********

    Long time reader, but my posts never go through

    Just donated to the .44 drive

    Go Hill. You can do it

  32. Emjay… It was really an embarassing moment for the MSNBC crew when Pat Buchanan pointed out that it was not Bill Clinton in SC but Tweety in NH that brought up the race issue. I wish I could get tape of that.

  33. basil9, unfortunately that is what has happened in a lot of cases, I think. In Maine one woman was asked why she was voting for bho and she said because her kids liked him. Same story at a bho rally in the d.c. area.

  34. B Merryfield, I think it was you who tossed around nicknames for
    BO the other day

    I’m am fond of calling his supporters “BO Sniffers”

  35. Hillary Comes Alive
    The conventional wisdom says Clinton is doomed. Don’t believe it.
    By John Dickerson
    Posted Monday, Feb. 11, 2008, at 7:23 PM ET

    Hillary Clinton
    The best news for Hillary Clinton’s campaign may be that it’s headed over a cliff. In a campaign season where conventional wisdom has been so wrong so often, she can take heart that the current view among the political class is that Obama is marching unstoppably toward the nomination.

    Obama has won the last five primaries by wide margins and looks on course to win all three contests on Tuesday. The Clinton campaign predicted this would be a good period for Obama and that they could take this in stride, but their nonchalance crumbled when Clinton replaced her campaign manager this week. (We’re winning; time to fire the quarterback!) Obama is also ahead of Clinton for the first time in a national poll and outperforms Clinton in head-to-head matchups with likely opponent John McCain. Obama has more money, can raise it easily, and still draws those blockbuster crowds. (He should travel with his own overflow room since they are so often required at the venues he uses.)

    But all is not lost for those who support Hillary Clinton. Here are a few reasons to keep hope alive (why let Obama own that phrase?):

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    1. Clinton has a floor: Despite Obama’s successes, he has been unable to make significant inroads with key voting blocs. Women, Latinos, and less-prosperous voters all have continued to support Clinton. Obama is the candidate who is supposed to have the crazed supporters, but when the Washington Post recently asked Democratic voters how adamantly they supported their candidate, it was Clinton whose troops were more committed.

    These are the groups that helped sustain Clinton in big states on Super Tuesday after Obama won in Iowa and South Carolina. Obama has had a few scattered wins among them (leading with women in Iowa and Maine), but he has not had great success reaching into these still-for-Clinton groups.

    Clinton’s support among these key demographics also provides her with her electability argument as she tries to make the case that Obama is a modern-day George McGovern—the pet rock of the party’s wealthy liberal wing. “How can we have a nominee who can’t win the votes of working-class people?” says one Clinton strategist. It’s a good question.

    Clinton is banking on her loyal constituencies for her comeback day on March 4, where she hopes working-class whites in Ohio and Latinos in Texas will give her victories. An early test of whether blue collar voters are holding for Clinton might come in pockets of Wisconsin, which votes next week. The college towns will go for Obama, but much of the state resembles Ohio. These areas should back Clinton. If not, she’s in trouble.

    2. Front-Runner Blues: Who would want to be the front-runner in this race? Every time someone is thus anointed, he or she falters. This isn’t just superstition. There are specific pressures that come with being at the front of the field. Buyer’s remorse can set in. As more Democrats look at Obama in nominee focus, they might start to worry over his general election liabilities. He may have experience, but he’s never really been tested. (These unresolved qualms may explain why voters who make up their mind on Election Day go with Clinton).

    The press might start pushing harder on Obama, too. The stories that weren’t followed up on during the galloping horse race stage of the early primaries might get a second look. Plus, there are more reporters covering fewer candidates, and perhaps the press will feel compelled to extensively vet a candidate who looks like he’s on his way to the nomination.

    3. Cynics for Clinton: The Democratic nomination may come down to the 796 superdelegates. How these Democratic elected officials and party insiders will vote is a mystery. They could back a candidate based on their own independent judgment; they could opt to follow the will of the voters; they could split on that question. If Obama scores some upsets in states he’s not supposed to win, he may be able to convince a big chunk of superdelegates that he’s the candidate, and that’ll be the end of it. But if the race remains close, the backroom battle seems to favor the Clintons. They have more ties to these party insiders, and they know how to play the game (that’s in Part 1 of the arguments Obama is making against them). Obama can stir a crowd of 20,000, but it’s the Clinton team that can make the insider case. For example, when Clinton talks about being able to fight the Republican attack machine, party insiders who have seen the combat up close may be apt to buy the argument that despite Obama’s inspiring language, only the Clintons understand what’s necessary to combat the GOP.

    In a race where so much that seemed certain has not been, any struggling candidate can find a reason to persevere, especially perhaps a candidate who was once seen as inevitable

  36. B Merry That is a nice site. I used it a few time to translate from English to Pig latin to post at Dily KOS. LOL

  37. But you have to remember that in Jan 2005, within a week of starting in the Senate, bho started his college campus training program using the Hopefund money. He trained his activists first. Who could ever anticipate what the plan was? It was all kept pretty low key. So, in a few weeks in early 2005 he trains his trainers and had the whole college-based outreach / followers in place two years before he officially announced his run. Can you imagine how many of these stormtroopers were in place by then?

  38. Apologies for the length of this, but it’s a good one! About whether Rezko will hurt bho:

    Barack Obama’s association with Antoin Rezko is bound to cause him trouble in his chase for the White House for several important reasons: First, the national news media loves scandal. There doesn’t have be an actual scandal; the mere appearance of scandal is enough to light the fire and the media will fan the flames until it is a raging inferno. The rather thin argument will likely be that the public has a right to know. You know the drill by now: We didn’t make the story, we just followed where it took us. (It doesn’t matter that the news media will follow a possible scandal with the same dogged determination as a trial lawyer chasing an ambulance).

    I personally don’t care one way or the other because I’m not an Obama supporter, but if recent history is any indicator, this story will loom large nationally. The reason? There’s only one thing the American people love more than an underdog, and that’s a scandal. Real or imagined, it’s all the same to us.

    Another reason this story will be problematic for Obama is because he has held himself out to the American people as an outsider, as one who doesn’t get his hands dirty with the slime of politics. In reality, Obama is chest-deep in the slime. The only reason he hasn’t gotten his hands dirty so far is because he’s managed to hold his hands above his head while maintaining a precarious balance in the slime.

    Soon, that won’t matter anymore, though, because if the media doesn’t knock him off-balance, Hillary Clinton will come up for air. When that happens, he’s going down faster than Paris Hilton on a weekend pass. He had better have an oxygen tank because he’ll be there for the duration of the campaign. Nobody plays slime politics better than Hillary Clinton. She’s the original bottom-feeder. She’ll leave no stone unturned in her quest to discredit him because he represents what she perceives to be the only real obstacle between her and the Oval Office.

    It’s really a shame that this story has to play out this way. I was rather looking forward to a clean, honest, wholesome campaign. Just once, I’d like to tell my kids with a straight face, in total honesty, that this is what politics is supposed to be like. Oh, well. There’s always 2012. Can you say Pee Wee Herman?

  39. Idunn, I seriously doubt good old John is going to endorse Hillary. No matter how much else I’d heard here and elsewhere about the pros/cons, I just don’t think he’ll break ranks with the boyz club.

  40. Don’t forget guys, Obama has to make it right through to August to be confirmed as the nominee at convention, I’m fully sure that Rezko will bring him down and hang him by then and they will have no alternative but turn to the Clintons to bail them out yet again.

  41. Comment by Don
    February 12th, 2008 at 7:53 am
    I Switched to Clinton at last minute. Well Just Voted in Maryland and although i was a Obama supporter, after seeing him last night in Baltimore. It was very energetic and i left the arena feeling very good. Than on the way home i really thought about what i had heard. Alot of saying change, but not saying how, these left me feeling very nervous. Last night i watched the later version of the factor and normally would never listen to anyting karl rove had to say but he made a point of how clinton could win. He also brung up the lack of experiance and that really had me concerned. Up til now Obama was my guy, he has brung so much to this election. However i now see what the republican machine is going to after him with. So

  42. I will contribute later to day. Guys, don’t forget to make phone calls. I did it for the first timelast night. I called about 16 people, got 5 def for Hillary, 1 absentee for Obama, 1 busy tone, 1 repub and 8 messages-voice mail.

    These 2 things can help her tremendously. I called Wisconsin.

  43. Morning all! I’ve already donated too. About that Salon article-what nat’l poll does he lead in? I haven’t seen any. Other than that I pretty much agree with what was said. I personally feel great about Hillary’s chances for the nomination. She has a strong base coming up for these later primaries and we’ll make sure she has the money to compete. Go Hill!

  44. No phone banking for me today, I’m afraid. I can’t scratch out more than a hoarse whisper.

    But I got in alot of calls yesterday, before my voice gave out, so that’s something at least.

  45. Comment by Obama’s Pockets
    February 12th, 2008 at 8:41 am
    According to an analysis by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics of donations over $250, Obama’s presidential warchest has received $194,750 from 150 Exelon Nuclear employees, with top executives of the company sending in the checks. Exelon workers, bundled together, rank sixth in Obama’s top donor groups. Obama supports

  46. Comment by Obama’s Pockets
    February 12th, 2008 at 8:41 am
    According to an analysis by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics of donations over $250, Obama’s presidential warchest has received $194,750 from 150 Exelon Nuclear employees, with top executives of the company sending in the checks. Exelon workers, bundled together, rank sixth in Obama’s top donor groups. Obama supports those who lines his pockets. He protected Exelon from the state of Illinois fining them for enviromental damages. Obama is looking for Obama. His real estate deals follow this trend. Go ahead Google Exelon and Obama and start finding out who he really is. Hillary has until April just like every American to deal with her taxes. Obama should release his real record of dealing with Exelon and Resko. Voter’s beware of him

  47. He’s a lying sack of shit, and just the worst kind of politician that lies to to your face then will stab you in the back with no morals at all. I don’t think he’s actually got a concience.

    With Hillary you know what you get, with Obama, he’d pull the plug on a dying mans respirator if he thought it would do him some good.

  48. GM just posted record losses. Honestly, how the hell can Democrat’s be so stupid? What is it that the Ben Smith’s of the world see in this guy? He’s a fad. He’s like a pet rock. There is no substance. The country is fubar, and these people are nominating someone whom from what I can tell has never held a full time job before becoming a Senator. I mean, what the hell kind of conservative leaning independents are voting for a guy who brags about his wife paying off his school loans?

  49. On Super Tuesday, Clinton easily won majorities in many rural counties in Missouri and Tennessee, which share some of Virginia’s demographic and cultural traits. Clinton has also been doing well with white women, which could give her a major boost in Northern Virginia while undercutting the GOP advantage in some conservative counties this fall.

  50. Idunn, it’s nuts. Hillary won the damn white evangelical vote in Tenn. I mean, she literally beat out the Republicans on that vote. Can you imagine? This is someone who would actually win TENN and ARK, and MO, and AZ, and more. She would win the latino vote, the catholic vote, and bring in single women, all the groups Dem’s struggle with. I can not believe the Dem’s who have become so hyperbolic over a pet rock, when we have this kind of nominee.

  51. I contributed just now (though I don’t like to announce it). I will vote in MD today for Hillary, of course, in about an hour. My husband already did. During the weekend he led a hike (he is a hike leader for Northern VA Hiking Club) and wore his 44 button proudly.

  52. I think it bears repeating that Va. and TN have ALOT in common wrt voters, demographics, etc. etc. When people think of Va. they think of Va. Beach, Norfolk, Richmond. Won’t they really don’t seem to get is that Va. also has a very large rural make-up. Also, women voters are VERY active in Va.

    I don’t see disaster there today. Not at all.

  53. peeped into msnbc just now

    KiKi McClain ROCKS…she put the squeeze on Mika..

    This is what needs to happen, these spokepeople gotta get on media and push back. This was really good.

    Also, see that Hillary is doing the messnbc debate…guess she has to do so to take him to the mat.

  54. B Merryfield Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 4:59 am

    The day after Obama won the Senatorial election, President George W. Bush called him, announcing, “You’re one articulate fella!” The two ended up chatting for 10 minutes, according to one of Obama’s aides. Two weeks later, Obama accepted an invitation to the White House and had breakfast with President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and political strategist Karl Rove.
    ——————–
    Not surprising! something weird (sinister?) is going on. Didn’t he say his family tree on his mother’s side included Bush now (and has said, Cheney, earlier)? He says that mockingly but is code for something else, I think. I was also talking to a Obamabot last evening and it occurred to me that when we were scratching our heads at some of the things he said, he was saying those things to his base, the 20-25 year-olds, repubs, and so on.

  55. Here’s another good one regarding Va. demographics.

    tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=280357a1-02a8-4168-b000-ad83d7f2475c

  56. Well, after looking into it, I’m aware now. 🙁

    I’ll stop eating crabs if he wins in MD. MD, you’ve been put on notice!

  57. According to LA times -via Fluff post

    Despite those bleak signs, the Clinton camp has quietly mobilized to exploit “some unique opportunities,” said Mo Elleithee, a national Clinton spokesman who was brought in to work on Virginia strategy. Even if Obama captures the popular vote in Virginia, Clinton aides say, they hope to carve off some delegates, who are all chosen proportionately.

  58. I’m glad so many of you are positive about Virginia. I didn’t expect our girl to win any of these potomac primaries because the demos don’t favor her- DC&Maryland have large % of black voters and a lot of people who work in DC live in MD. I don’t much about VA but I assumed it was very similar in terms of having a lot of wealthy, elite types from DC. But if she can get a win that’s fantastic! I just don’t want us all to get discouraged today and believe the beltway bs.

  59. Hi everyone!

    I am an Edwards supporter and I just wanted to stop in to give you a word of encouragement today. A LOT of us die hard Edwards supporters do NOT understand why the media keeps reporting that we would go to Obama. The majority of us are ADAMANTLY opposed to him. He has not been vetted by the media! I wanted you to take comfort in the fact that the majority I have spoken with refuse to support Obama, even if John does give him an endorsement and we have made it very clear to John how we feel. He is shutting down his official blog today by the way.I am also a VA voter and do not understand the polls saying Hillary is so far behind either, EVERYONE I know is either voting for Hillary or Republican and I am in the Richmond area. Just wanted to wish you all well and to let you know that many, many Edwards voters would not have an issue with supporting Hillary…it is NObama we really can’t stand and his trolls that would come daily and wreck our blog did him no favors either…yeesh. Well once again, GOOD LUCK!

  60. I know but when are these elites oing to get their heads out of their asses. This guy just has no qualifications at this point and the country is in the toilet. This really is not any time for on the job training.

  61. Obama in his interview was more restrained, though he did take a moment to push back on the idea that he hasn’t been vetted — and compared the Clinton machine to the proverbial Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

    LMAO! Guess Bambi thought we were gonna just keep playing nice for ever and got alittle caught off gaurd by the sudden poke and jab. 😉

    I can hear him stuttering right now. LOL!

  62. These people are nuts, when Republicans are saying in the primaries, they want to run against Hillary, it means they want to run against Obama, have people not worked that out yet.

  63. The primaries coming up should only be looked at as opportunities to pick up delegates. The popular vote is not important right now. Hillary just needs to take away all the delegates from Obama that she can. When March rolls around, that is when our time will come for popular votes and the lions share of delegates.

  64. i.timeinc.net/time/2007/thepage/ClintonCall_021108.mp3

    just listened to the Wolfson conference call yesterday that was posted here by . . . . forgot….will get back with that.

    What a great interview. He and Penn fielded questions for a good half hour after a 15 minute or so opening statement. He reiterated (as the original poster said) at least 4 times that BO was in agreement that SD should be permitted to fulfill their original function.
    Tape is long, 45 minutes, but I felt energized after listening.
    Highly recommend, especially for those seeking encouragement.
    tn

  65. Interesting that Big Media is mentioning that Hillary brought up Rezko’s name but nobody is inclined to bother doing any REAL investigative reporting outside of the Chicago papers. You KNOW they’re just sitting back and waiting to launch! :mrgreen:

  66. moononpluto, You would think support for BO from ultra consevatives like Bill Kristol would be a dead give away as to whom they love to run against.

  67. mj: When did it become so pro-bama?

    1. He has very motivated grassroots organizers, esp in PG and Balt areas.
    2. 188 volunteers for BO arrived in College Park yesterday (UMCP)
    3. About 40% of the electorate is African American. There aren’t enough Clinton appointees in that bloc to make a statistical dent.
    4. Demographically, the white population is like CT’s.

    3) + 4) is already 60% + of the electorate.

    Campaign has not put much effort into MD — there’s only been volunteer organizing. How much money are you going to throw into a state where you start with a 32pt deficit?

  68. I don’t think Kristol is set on running against BO, I think it’s more that he is terrified of Hill being president because he knows she will accomplish big things and the Repub’s will likely never win the WH again in his life time. That’s why when BC was elected he immediately wrote this little column to his Repub friends: Kill UHC or you will not see a Repub president again in our lifetime. That was the gist.

  69. I don’t much about VA but I assumed it was very similar in terms of having a lot of wealthy, elite types from DC.

    1). the AA percentage is about 18%
    2). Va. is largely rural. People forget that because they think Richmond, Norfolk, Va. Beach.
    3). The demographics are alot like TN, which Clinton won.

    Now, could it go to Bambi? Yes. Could also go to Clinton. My point is, it shouldn’t be a given that it’s going to be a rout. I seriously doubt it.

  70. kafeen-absolutely right. Hillary didn’t expect to do well in Feb but she’s confident (and should be) about the upcoming states where her base is. After today she has weeks to prepare for OH,TX etc.

    mj- I’m not a wealthy elite so I can’t give you any inside information. This is just the way its always been for the last few decades for the democrats- generally the elites go with one candidate and the rest of the party go with someone else. I’m generalizing obviously but overall that’s the pattern.

  71. HLR, I guess they are like CT but very Catholic(which Hillary is much stronger among than Obama). Also, she has so much institutional support there. But, yeah, point taken about the black vote.

  72. mj: She’s winning all the key demographics. It’s lunacy.

    The black vote is a key demo. It’s largely not available. MD, CT are states where upper-income white are a significant bloc. Finally, our performance w/ the youth vote has been variable from state-tos-tate. In many states, the youth vote is offsets the 65+ vote. While that has not been historically true, BO is specifically encouraging youth turnout.

  73. I don’t mean that, HLR. I mean what dem’s need in a GE. It’s lunacy that the latte liberal set refuses to acknowledge how strong she is for a GE.

  74. You guys will think this is off the wall, but I’ll throw it out there anyway. I really believe that we took Super Tuesday because ALOT of these Obama kids didn’t make the voter registration deadline in time to vote in the primaries. Maybe what we are seeing now, is youth vote registration in action.

    I don’t know.

    Friggin’ kids.

  75. mj: Also, she has so much institutional support there.

    It’s not worth much. Here’s why. O’Malley is too new for a statewide machine. More importantly, the MD-Senate election in ’06 posed a racial conflict that BO will benefit from today. What happened was that MD Dems ran a white ‘establishment’ pol from the Balt area — Ben Cardin for Sarbanes’ open seat. His only credible opposition was Cong. Mfume, former head of the NAACP, who did not get any backing or support for a variety of reasons. Mfume was narrowly defeated w/ the vote splitting largely along racial lines. Next, Cardin faced Michael Steele, a black Republican. MD Dems asked their large and loyal constituency to vote against the black candidate, not once, but two times! It really caused problems.

    (cont)

  76. In fact, several prominent black PG politicians threatened to defect from the Dems to the Republicans over this issue.

    I will also mention that Obama got an “early start” in MD, as the Dems dispatched him twice to MD — first to smooth over sore feelings about Mfume’s primary loss, and then to promote Cardin over Steele.

  77. Good morning to all,

    I am a regular visitor on this site as I am a big Hillary Clinton supporter, though from Europe I cant help you a lot, not even donate to her campaign.

    It is good to see all your effort to make her 44. I am sure the whole world will love it.

    P.S. Cant figure out after so many hours spent of reading her what Kool-aid Drinking means… Can anyone explain it?

  78. Yay – I was finally able to post!

    I tried to post a link to The Great Orange Satan, but it was rejected.

    No worries 🙂

    I just posted a diary over there which is entitled

    “Tonight is the Beginning of the End of Obamania 2008,” and the Obamanauts are going bezerk.

    Surprise, surprise!

    As this article says here on Hillis44, now is the time to
    donate, because Hillary’s time is now and all of the states coming up save Mississippi and North Carolina are states she will have a great chance to win. Yes, there are still 4 caucuses left, but one of them is Puerto Rico, so that shouldn’t be a problem.

    Hillary supporters, our time is now. The BHO people will likely crow tonight, but after then, it is OUR time to carry our girl to victory!

    Let’s give and volunteer, please, until she is our next Dem nominee. Let’s go Hill!

    🙂

  79. From wiki:

    [edit] “Drinking the Kool-Aid”

    Contrary to popular belief, Kool-Aid was not used in the infamous punch at JonestownThe idiomatic expression, “drinking the Kool-Aid”, was originally a reference to the Merry Pranksters, a group of people associated with novelist Ken Kesey who, in the early 1960s, traveled around the United States and held events called “Acid Tests”, where LSD-laced Kool-Aid was passed out to the public (LSD was legal in the U.S. until 1966). Those who drank the “Kool-Aid” passed the “Acid Test”. “Drinking the Kool-Aid” in that context meant accepting the LSD drug culture, and the Pranksters’ “turned on” point of view. These events were described in Tom Wolfe’s 1968 classic, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.[4]

    Having “drunk the Kool-Aid” now commonly refers to being a strong or fervent believer in a particular philosophy or mission — wholeheartedly or blindly believing in its virtues.[5][6]

    The term is also closely associated with the 1978 cult suicide in Jonestown, Guyana. Jim Jones, the leader of the Peoples Temple, convinced his followers to move to Jonestown. Late in the year, he then ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape-flavored Flavor Aid laced with potassium cyanide. In what is now commonly called the “Jonestown Massacre”, a large majority of the 913 people later found dead drank the brew. (The discrepancy between the idiom and the actual occurrence is likely due to Flavor Aid’s relative obscurity, compared to the easily recognizable Kool-Aid.) The precise expression can be attested in usage at least as early as 1987[4]. The saying “Don’t drink the Kool-Aid” now commonly refers to the Jonestown tragedy, meaning “Don’t trust any group you find to be a little on the kooky side,” or “Whatever they tell you, don’t believe it too strongly.”[7] Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly is famous for using the term in this manner.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid

  80. good golly miss molly….i got so shook when i saw the word anti-christ, i lost my ability to spell….should say…informed :S

  81. mj: my god, we are electing a president here.

    Here is the problem — the bar is low. The reason the experience argument isn’t working w/ black voters is because they say — looked what a FU’d mess it’s been, might as well give the black guy a chance.

  82. Yes, Idunn you did. You may be right! 😈

    The biggest underlying problem as I see it for the Rezbamabots is that they think this is American Idol and they’re just entertained until next season, and they don’t have any concept of anything past 25 or 30. They forget that they have parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents whose needs Hillary addresses, among other things.

  83. Well, ok, I understand with aa’s, though that’s extremely irrational but people vote that way. But, why so much white band wagoning? Identity is not at play there. I mean, it’s like David Brooks’ column, experiential shopping, but this is absurd.

  84. mj: Well, no wonder Cardin never endorsed Hillary.

    Exactly! He’s in a tough, tough position. That’s also true for Steny Hoyer, who I think favors Hillary. However, his district also has a solid black %.

  85. why so much white band wagoning

    In a word: white guilt.

    (and I say this as a woman of color, so I’m allowed. LOL.)

  86. HLR, are there no hopeful signs for Hillary there? I had hope the white kool aid drinkers may wake from their stupor. No such luck, huh?

  87. i have two sons…one married . Both under the age of 30. I didnt have to say anything. They saw…all by themselves…BO is an empty suit. I am so proud. I donated 100.44 today. Thank heavens for tax refunds. Cant think of a better use than that 😀

  88. I had hope the white kool aid drinkers may wake from their stupor. No such luck, huh?

    Think of The New Kids On The Block. The hysteria will, of course , fizzle. But that might take awhile.

  89. Hi everyone!

    I am an Edwards supporter and I just wanted to stop in to give you a word of encouragement today. A LOT of us die hard Edwards supporters do NOT understand why the media keeps reporting that we would go to Obama. The majority of us are ADAMANTLY opposed to him. He has not been vetted by the media! I wanted you to take comfort in the fact that the majority I have spoken with refuse to support Obama, even if John does give him an endorsement and we have made it very clear to John how we feel. He is shutting down his official blog today by the way. I am also a VA voter and do not understand the polls saying Hillary is so far behind either, EVERYONE I know is either voting for Hillary or Republican and I am in the Richmond area. Just wanted to wish you all well and to let you know that many, many Edwards voters would not have an issue with supporting Hillary…it is NObama we really can’t stand and his trolls that would come daily and wreck our blog did him no favors either…yeesh. Well once again, GOOD LUCK!

  90. mj: why so much white band wagoning?

    It’s a ‘feel-good’ thing: hope, optimism, ‘end’ of racial issues, easy answers. Americans LOVE simple feel-good solutions to difficult problems, I think.

  91. # mj Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 9:18 am

    pm, you are in md, what the heck is going on? When did it become so pro-bama?
    ————————-
    Not so sure, it is pro-obama. Driving around Bethesda, I noticed more Hillary signs than Obama (anecdotal evidence, of course). we can’t believe the polls, just like we can’t believe anything big media says. My speculation is there is a latent energy that will drive majority of Marylanders to Hillary’s corner. Gov, Lt. Gov(who is Black), Senior senator, PG county exec, they are all for Hillary. My sense is that we will do fine here, in spite of large AA percentage going to Obama. I am cautiously optimistic.

    I just saw HLR’s post. She seems to have better information. Logically, because of Steele, is it possible that many Blacks may have moved to the republican side? — I don’t know. This is a closed primary.

  92. mj: I had hope the white kool aid drinkers may wake from their stupor.

    MD had a real anti-establishment/insurgency wave in ’06. Many of BO’s foot soldiers come from that sector. I do believe he will win comfortably.

  93. The Obamanauts are likely to think they’ve got things all wrapped up after tonight.

    It’s going to be humorous to see them scrambling when HRC starts rolling in the contests to come and Barry goes bye-bye.

    Can’t wait.

    🙂

  94. HillaryLandRocks Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 9:34 am
    ————–
    MD AA percentage is 29.5% from tnr article up thread. Steele and other republicans may have claim to some of it and it is a closed primary. It is not all CT — eastern shore, northern pan handle are quite rural and socially conservative. But, again I defer to better information.

  95. pm — I’m not saying black voters left MD Dems permanently. What I’m saying is that O’Malley/Brown/Mikulski can’t push hard on this issue, because it’s a sensitive one after the ’06 race.

  96. After losing four states to Barack Obama over the weekend, Hillary Clinton has replaced her campaign manager trying to reignite her campaign. But it won’t be easy. Senator Obama is expected to win tomorrow in Virginia, Maryland and D.C., and will likely take the delegate lead.

    As “Talking Points” has pointed out, if Obama beats Clinton in the direct vote, he will get the nomination. The Democratic Party could not use super delegates at the convention next summer to override the votes of the folks. If that happened, the party would fracture.

    So Senator Clinton is really up against it. She has to win both Texas and Ohio on March 4 or it is over.

    Barack Obama has one big thing going for him, and that’s Barack Obama. Millions of Americans like him, and he has energized many people who usually don’t follow politics.

    Senator Clinton has two things going against her: her controversial image and the left-wing media that has decided Obama is the better candidate. It’s hard enough to run a presidential campaign, but when an entire news organization like NBC is openly helping your competitor, that is really tough. So were you surprised when NBC News correspondent David Shuster said this?

  97. Doug Wilder, Obama surrogate, is a jack@ss.

    He was on CNN last night — and in print on Sunday — trying to play up the whole (competley debunked for over a month) ‘fairy tale’ theme about Bill Clinton in preparation for tonight’s 3 heavily AA contests.

    I am SO freaking sick of this ‘race card’ BS by Obama and his surrogates. When will the MSM EVER call them on this crap.

    When you lose, Barack, it will have been your OWN fault for pigeonholing your own candidacy; no one else did it for you.

    What a disgrace.

  98. pm, mj: Democratic registration in MD

    Prince George’s: 330,462 (majority black)
    Montgomery: 274, 701
    Balt City: 265, 263 (majority black)
    Balt County: 271, 483
    Anne Arundel: 132, 117

    Garrett: 4, 895 (western MD)
    Allegany: 16,461 (western MD)
    (cont)

  99. pm: It is not all CT — eastern shore, northern pan handle are quite rural and socially conservative.

    Talbot: 10,080 (eastern shore)

    That is true, but in a Dem primary, the black electorate is 35%-40%. You’re quoting statewide. And in a Dem primary, it’s PG/MoCo/Balt that dominate, see numbers above. Finally, the eastern shore is home to a historically black university — UMES — so expect the shore dem primary to have a BO presence.

  100. The fact that the Clinton campaign didn’t expect to do well in the month of February and ended up getting delegates anyway…whether as much as her opponent or not…still looks to me as a victory for her. She has kept Obama from a clean sweep so far. So I guess not everyone is as enamored with him as he seems to think.

    His people flip back and forth with their arguments. He wins a state (primary or caucus) and that’s all that matters. He loses a state but gets the same delegates as his opponent, and that’s all that matters. He wants superdelegates to pledge one way. He wants them to pledge another way.

    I’m still waiting for a candy bar to be named after him!

  101. Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. He looked down at his obviously copious notes every few seconds throughout the speech. Unlike the typical Obama oration where the words flow with unparalleled fluidity, he stumbled over his phrasing repeatedly.

    Oh now, that is just unfair. I mean, c’mon , Barack himself admits he’s not very good with paperwork and organizing things. 🙄

  102. I’m still waiting for a candy bar to be named after him!

    What would we call it, I wonder? The Oh Brother Bar? The Very Barry Bar? Chockful-o-nuts?

  103. # HillaryLandRocks Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 10:06 am

    pm — Bethesda: signs in public places or at houses? We have Cardin’s old office in Bethesda.
    ———————–
    Both, yard signs, and signs on medians and such. Cardin’s (old) campaign office on Wisc. Ave is now Hillary’s office (same spot).
    I went to Bowie State Univ. Townhall meeting for Hillary and the crowd was a good mix of Black and White and Asian. With Steele’s cut and overt support of PG Exec and Lt. Gov for Hillary, I don’t know if Obama has a monopoly on that segment — again I don’t have numbers to back this up.

  104. This is ridiculous:
    ‘SUPER’ LATINO SLAMS CLINTON
    By MAGGIE HABERMAN

    February 12, 2008 — A prominent member of the national Democratic Party has circulated a sharp e-mail saying the removal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle was disloyal to Hispanics and should give “pause” to superdelegates and voters.

    The e-mail from, Steven Ybarra, a California superdelegate who heads the voting-rights committee of the DNC Hispanic Caucus, was sent to fellow caucus members in the hours after word broke that Solis Doyle – the most prominent Latina in Clinton’s campaign – would be replaced by another close Clinton loyalist, Maggie Williams, who is black.

    The e-mail noted that Clinton, who is looking to Latino voters for a boost in the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4, scored heavily with Hispanics in her California win.

    “Apparently, loyalty is not a two-way street,” he wrote. “Latino superdelegates like myself . . . will have cause to pause.”

    Ybarra told The Post yesterday that the loss of Solis Doyle, a child of Mexican immigrants, just weeks before the Texas primary, where 36 percent of the population is Hispanic, was “dumb as a stump.”

    Contacted for comment, the typically press-shy Solis Doyle told The Post that Ybarra was writing on “false information,” and confirmed she’s staying on as an adviser.

    Team Clinton insisted that the decision to switch from Solis Doyle to Williams, revealed on Sunday afternoon, was amiable.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/02122008/news/nationalnews/super_latino_slams_clinton_97237.htm

  105. What the heck are you talking about? Do you have any idea how many muslims there are through out the world? That’s just offensive.

  106. pm — Wayne Curry (former PG exec) is an interesting guy. I am pleased we have his support. He does have a lot of influence in Prince George’s and sometimes moves votes for a candidate, particularly in local races. However, I still believe BO will dominate black PG. BO’s PG group has been organizing since last Feb.

  107. My husband has drunk the “kool-aid.” He believes what the media is feeding him and since he from Chicago…he says it’s just old time Chicago Politics.

    The people of Chicago are so use to this kind of politics because that is all they know…since generations have been raised under the Dailey political machine.

    I was gagging at the news this morning, watching Obama talking about “bring it on” and all that me, me, me. Obama is believing his own press and not thinking about how this come off to other people that not into him or have different experiences with the “Cult of Personality” at the top of their government.

    P.S. We have to start teaching civics in high school again, the average voter don’t understand the process. It’s very important more than every to not assume our institutional systems (i.e. the press) will not become corrupted. All we have now are propagandists (talking head) with a political agenda.

  108. # Idunn Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. He looked down at his obviously copious notes every few seconds throughout the speech. Unlike the typical Obama oration where the words flow with unparalleled fluidity, he stumbled over his phrasing repeatedly.

    Oh now, that is just unfair. I mean, c’mon , Barack himself admits he’s not very good with paperwork and organizing things. 🙄
    —————–

    Alan Greenspan on his book tour went around citing Bill Clinton’s genius when Bill had to give a State of the Union speech from memory (because the teleprompter did not work).

  109. whatever i don’t care we just dont like them back in India… we are spending so much money to protect our borders from pakisthan, such a tiny country … mad people.. we dont like them…

  110. mj: This is ridiculous:
    ‘SUPER’ LATINO SLAMS CLINTON

    I am seriously exhausted by all the identity politics in this primary. Donna Brazile isn’t the only one thinking of checking out of the Dem party. I’ll assume this noisemaker is a BO supporter.

  111. Good mornign everyone. Very happy to see the positive energy here today. I am maxed out contribution wise having contributed several times since last year. I feel jealous that I cannot join you all in contributing today. I have been forwarding the money bomb to friends and at least some of them have contributed.

  112. We have to start teaching civics in high school again, the average voter don’t understand the process.

    That and economics. Kids coming out of highschool today don’t have a clue about money management, mortgages, etc. etc. It’s scary.

  113. B Merryfield: Ybarra is a Howard Dean stooge.

    I hope the Dean wing of the party understands that their ‘unity pitch’ will fall on deaf ears after all of this BS.

  114. >>I thought India had the largest muslim population in the world.

    no, indonesia has largest population in the world followed by pakisthan, India..

    in India, majority of people are hindus.. 80% of population is hindus and 18% of population is muslims.. we just pray they just leave our country and go back to pakisthan & bangladesh

  115. John Glenn to Endorse Hillary Clinton

    ABC News’ Jake Tapper Reports: Sources close to Senator Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign tells ABC News that former astronaut Sen. John Glenn, D-Ohio, will endorse Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, tomorrow in Columbus, Ohio, at 1 pm local time.

    Glenn will appear at the endorsement event with Gov. Ted Strickland, D-Ohio, another prominent Clinton-backer in the must-win state, which will hold its primary in three weeks.

    Clinton will not be there.

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/john-glenn-to-e.html

  116. I had an interesting talk with my sister on Saturday. She is so pro-Obama it isn’t funny. She couldn’t tell me why though, just that he was a good speaker. Just didn’t think Hillary had any right to be running for president.

    Needless to say I lost my cool.

    I wish I could donate but I’m a Canadian and I don’t think that’s allowed.

  117. From B Merry’s link: Ybarra was using a variation on a derogatory slave term used to denigrate blacks perceived to be following a white agenda. Historically, slaves who labored in the house rather than in the fields were said to have received better treatment and to have been more loyal to the slave owner.

    A master manipulator!

  118. The endorsements will start coming after the primaries. News to deflect some of the psychological impact of Obambi winning popular votes. Very good idea I think. It will be particularly good if Edwards is one of the upcoming endorsements as well.

  119. The Morning HUBdate: February 12, 2008
    by Howard Wolfson, Communications Directorin News2/12/2008 9:26 AMNew Ad: The campaign will soon unveil a new ad in Ohio and Texas. Stay tuned.

    On Tap: Today, voters in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C. head to the polls… Tonight, Hillary will hold a “Solutions for America” rally in El Paso, Texas… Tomorrow, Hillary will campaign in McAllen, Robstown and San Antonio, Texas…On Thursday and Friday, Hillary will campaign in Ohio.

    Big Endorsement: In Ohio, former Senator John Glenn will today endorse Hillary at a press conference with Governor Ted Strickland in Columbus.

    Donating to Hillary: Supporters continue to contribute online in significant numbers…”My husband has been out of a job for 6 months but he insisted that I send Hillary a donation. It was only $25 but it comes from our hearts.”…”This is my first ever political contribution in the 40 years that I’ve been following politics. I will be making additional contributions at regular intervals to make sure my daughter grows up knowing it will be possible for her to become President.”… “I am a poor graduate student and I just made my third $25 contribution after taking a good, long look at my checking account… I also will try to make phone calls over the weekend.”

    Winning in November: Hillary is the Democrat to beat Sen. John McCain. Hillary has withstood Republican attacks, has the strength and experience to win on national security and has built a strong coalition of women and Latino voters. These two groups made the difference in 2004, swinging the election from Sen. John Kerry to President George Bush. Read more.

    Students for Hillary: Yesterday, hours before Hillary spoke at Dr. Larry Sabato’s class at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, students stood outside, “shivering in the cold, waving signs, clapping and chanting, ‘H, I! H, I, L! H, I, L, L, A, R, Y! Hillary!’ (Clap, clap, clap.) ‘Our nominee!'” During her address, “students gave her a standing ovation, cheering and snapping photos with cell phones, and then the whole auditorium swayed, arms around each other.”

    Save the Date: On Thursday, February 21 at 7 p.m. CST, Hillary and Sen. Obama will debate in Austin, Texas. Univision, CNN and the Texas Democratic Party will co-host the debate. Sen. Obama refused to debate Hillary in Wisconsin, Washington, D.C., and Maine.

    Green Jobs: In White Marsh, Maryland, Hillary yesterday toured a GM Allison Transmission Plant and detailed her plan to create 5 million good-paying, “green-collar” jobs by investing in energy efficiency and renewable energy. Read more.

    FactCheck: In Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, D.C., Sen. Obama is running a radio ad that claims his health care plan provides “universal coverage.” Independent health care experts agree Sen. Obama’s plan is not universal and would leave 15 million people uninsured

  120. mj Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 10:35 am

    This is ridiculous:
    ‘SUPER’ LATINO SLAMS CLINTON
    By MAGGIE HABERMAN
    ————

    She will campaign for Hillary and that will silence people. I am still searching for that article where I read how she would sob sitting in the cab after saying goodbye to her little kids week after week (paraphrasing) — if anybody else has better luck, pl. post it here. It seems like a genuine reason that she should leave for her family’s sake — of course, the media has to twist it and turn into something else.

  121. More proof Obama shouldn’t leave home without his teleprompter and someone whispering answers into his earphone just like Bush’s:

    The other day, I watched Obama at a press conference in Seattle. He said something substantive about policy, something I have rarely seen him do. He announced a proposed program to reduce carbon consumption by 80 percent. That this is a ridiculous goal isn’t so bad. Lots of candidates make statements with ridiculous goals. But then he went on. How would he achieve such a goal? He stated he would fund a 20 billion dollar effort focused on biofuels. Someone raised their hand noting a recent study that showed that biofuels were a net loss in terms of carbon use. This isn’t actually new news. It’s been known all along while we have been pushing ethanol.

    In response to this point of information from the press, Obama stammered. He backtracked. That’s something we’ll have to consider, he said. And there went his major policy statement of the day up in smoke.

    He was then asked about nuclear power. Was he in favor of its use? He talked about how his state uses a considerable amount of nuclear power. But then he stated that no nuclear power wasn’t a good future energy source. There were problems with safety and storage of waste. What were the safety problems with new designs? No one asked. And what about storage? I’ve heard Obama say in that past that proposed storage of waste was “bad science.” Sorry, but I know about the science. The science is actually quite good. What is bad is the politics. So much for honesty.

    fortyquestions.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-vague-i-will-vote-for-whoever-is.html

  122. jithendra, There is no place for your anti muslim rhetoric here. This is a Hillary support website. There is no place for those comments here.

  123. jith, you should’s say things like that you hope muslims will leave India. They are Indians as much as you are. I am going to assume that you were just joking and didn’t mean this seriously.

  124. Why is it every single day I come in here there has to be some kind of back and forth calling out thing?

    If you want something to stop, don’t keep posting about it.

  125. jith, you shouldn’t say things like that you hope muslims will leave India. They are Indians as much as you are. I am going to assume that you were just joking and didn’t mean this seriously. India is a democracy with a secular constitution just like U.S. is. In neither of these countries is anti-minority rhetoric acceptable. It is certainly not acceptable in this website.

  126. Hi all, middle aged white broad on board.
    Just made my 10.44 donation, wishing it could have been more!
    Must say thank you for being my port in the insane Obama Storm raging through this country; for saving my sanity and supplying me with information so I can stay away from the bias that is MM; and for making me laugh. Dot 48, I’m still chuckling over the “blind leading the blind.” Not to mention so many other funnies from you all.
    I gotta say Vanity4H yours is the best fund raising story I’ve read. God love your sister.
    Hugs all round. Go Hillary 08.

  127. Ms. Solis Doyle says her biggest problem isn’t running the campaign per se but living apart from her two young children, who remain with her husband in Washington. Ten days ago she flew home to try to pack about two weeks’ worth of Christmas decorating, shopping and baking into about 24 hours, including making sopa de fideo Mexican noodles for her 9-year-old daughter and 5-year-old son. Ms. Solis Doyle has missed teacher-parent conferences and her children’s holiday programs at school this year. When she left for the airport to return to Iowa, she sobbed in the cab.

    [excerpt from the WSJ article linked above]

  128. Merryfield, Hillary in not pro-nuclear. Her plan rely’s on solar, wind and thermal. I am more inline with her plans, as is Gore. No to nuclear.

  129. And if you keep calling them out on it, who’s making it worse?

    yesterday it was people suggesting other people were trolls. This stuff just gets old, ya know?

  130. B Merry, Youre teleprompter comments reminded me of this:

    RICHMOND, Va. — Barack Obama, caught up in the fervor of a campaign speech Tuesday, drastically overstated the Kansas tornadoes death toll, saying 10,000 had died.

    The death toll was 12.

    “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed,” the Democratic presidential candidate said in a speech to 500 people packed into a sweltering Richmond art studio for a fundraiser.

    Obama mentioned the disaster in Greensburg, Kan., in saying he had been told by the office of Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius that the state’s National Guard had been depleted by its commitment to the Iraq War.

    “Turns out that the National Guard in Kansas only had 40 percent of its equipment and they are having to slow down the recovery process in Kansas,” Obama said, his shirt sleeves rolled up and his head glistening with sweat.

    As the Illinois senator concluded his remarks a few minutes later, he appeared to realize his gaffe.

  131. # jithendra Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 10:43 am

    whatever i don’t care we just dont like them back in India… we are spending so much money to protect our borders from pakisthan, such a tiny country … mad people.. we dont like them…
    ———————-

    Please, speak for yourself. Such blanket statements are offensive to the rest of us who don’t share your view.

  132. I saw a youtube clip where someone asked Obama about medical marijuana. OB started to answer, then an aid beside him whispered in his ear, and Obama then gave a 2 sentence answer and quickly beat feet away from the guy who asked the question.

    It was weird.

  133. Idunn, I disagree very strongly. You are suggesting a moral equivalence between someone saying something wrong and those who are correcting them.

  134. What the heck? Dean is set on dividing the Party so Obama gets in. If Obama get’s in he will replace Dean for one of the Chicago Boys in a heartbeat.

  135. No, I’m saying it goes on and on and on if you don’t let it drop. People have commented plenty already, the point was made, let it go.

  136. Well several of us made a remark at the same time. We cannot coordinate and choose one person to make a remark for all of us. By criticizing those who were offended you extended this issue. I am going to drop this now.

  137. I support the full legalizition of marijuana, both medicinal and otherwise, on commerce clause grounds. But, I know I am in the minority. It’s my libertarian streak.

  138. I think Hillary could have potentially made a mistake with Doyle. It is very possible that their friendship combined with the fact that back in the day, Hill was considered a sure thing, clouded the judgment to put her in charge of the campaign. I think she is a valuable asset to the campaign, but it my personal opinion that someone else should have run this thing from the start and with the view that it was not a “sure thing”. We would be in a better place right now, however, I still think our girl will get the nod, but it could have been easier.

  139. Last word on the subject from me.

    I was only playing around with alliteration and the rumor that got posted about OB being a muslim. Didn’t say one damned thing about muslims that was offensive.

  140. Oh, sure, I think as a matter of commerce, americans should have the right to produce and sell marijuana. Remember, early on, the Constitution literally called on our founding fathers to produce Hemp. Put simply, I do not think the federal government has the right to interfere in what should be a legitimate business operation. There is no justification as I can tell. Further, it’s bad for the economy.

  141. I wish more AA would be like Mildred Walker below. On the other hand, a lot of Obama supporters are like this guy below:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/12/AR2008021200778.html?hpid=topnews

    “Walker, who is African American, said the candidacy of Illinois Sen. Barack Obama had provoked intense interest among her family and friends, most of whom were voting for him. But she decided differently. “With Barack, there’s a certain pride,” the 58-year-old interior designer said. “I’m glad he’s in the race. But when I narrow it down, Hillary is the best one.”

    Long lines snaked out from the center’s gymnasium and down a corridor, as voters waited up to 20 minutes this morning to cast ballots. Erik Tejero, 28, a graduate student in physics, said with a shrug that he had voted for Obama but couldn’t really explain why.

    “He just aligned with more of my views, I guess,” said Tejero, who is white.” “

  142. mj, is your point that marijuana is no worse then cigarettes and alcohol both of which are legal. Would you favor a Dutch style system wher it is regulated?

  143. Yes, to the dutch. No worse? Actually, it has far more medicinal purposes, and it doesn’t insight violence the way alcohol can, nor has it been found to cause cancer.

  144. Can you think of a time before this when this country was so consumed by a cult of a personality that they were willing to overlook everything? I cannot see one and I cannot beleive what I am seeing now. It is all so weird. I feel that this country is taken over by some cult.

  145. I just made this page on MyDD (http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/12/112810/946). I sent an e-mail last night to at least 50 friends of mine who are pro-Hillary, many of whom have already responded that they gave for the first time in their lives. I’m anticipating that today will be tough, but I want to make sure that people know Hillary ain’t goin’ nowhere! BTW, I voted today in VA and am hoping for a decent outcome. Take care everyone! Mike

  146. I like this voter:

    “Several other voters at the polling station at Marsteller Middle School said they chose Clinton over Obama. “I voted for Clinton because I remember when she was first lady, she tried to get insurance for single mothers like me,” said Francisca Mu¿oz, 68, of Bristow. “Obama is a good speaker and he’s charismatic, but there’s no substance to him.”

  147. mj, when I said no worse I should have been clearer, I meant no worse in terms of addictive properties. The knock against drugs is generally that they might promote addiction. On that score one arguement could be that marijuana is no worse than cigarettes and alcohol and it has more medicinal properties. On the other hand, people against legalization argue that often one moves from softer drugs to harder drugs and there is a danger people could move from marijuana to something else. Am I summarizing this fairly?

  148. Good lord, Obama sure gets alot of play out of the fact that his mother had cancer.

    That’s creepy, imo. Is that REALLY something one should use as a political stump?

  149. ohh my bad.. GM posted $722 million loss in 4th qtr…

    citigroup posted 10 billion loss merrill lynch posted 10 billion loss in 4th qtr… hmmm 🙁

  150. See the stark difference in these descriptions of the candidates. “battle-scarred fighter” vs “something new.” Something new, how vague can this get for Obama? That is why ultimately he won’t win this nomination. Thete is no substance to the guy.

    “Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama offered himself as “something new” at a pair of spirited, arena-size rallies in Maryland yesterday, while his primary rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, portrayed herself as a “battle-scarred” fighter for the middle class at more intimate events held across the region on the eve of today’s primaries. ”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/11/AR2008021100919.html?hpid=topnews

  151. And, no, marijuna is no more a stepping stone than beer. How many people do you think tried marijauana then coke, but not a beer. It’s illogical. Most people I know who smoke marijuana are in their late 30’s an dhave never stepped beyond. What’s the logic? When does the stepping stone kick in? Are these people going to suddenly try coke in their 60’s? It’s illogical.

  152. Yes…….

    Facing the worst recession in a generation.
    Competing in world markets with India and China
    Losing influence in all parts of the world
    Fighting a war on multiple fronts

    ..and let’s elect a President who has been in the legislature at the Federal level for two years. Has everyone gone stark, raving MAD?

  153. Idunn Says:

    February 12th, 2008 at 11:40 am
    Like just saying that his mother had cancer makes his healthcare plan more sound.

    Hehehehehe. Too true.

  154. hmmm.. why do people use marijauana, coke… such a great country work hard and make it even more strong… i like USA 🙂

  155. mj, I was just summarizing the arguement of those against legalization. I really don’t have a strong view on this and an open to new evidence. If there are studies that show marijuna is no more likely to lead to the next level than alcohol or cigarettes then it would convince a lot of people.

  156. I wasn’t kidding…I really thought it was indian. Maybe because of the Ganges river.

    (I’m shutting up before my ignorance betrays me yet again)

  157. >>Competing in world markets with India and China

    competing with India in service sector and with china in manufacturing sector..
    china is strong for manufacturing sector..

  158. TPS, I appreciate you curiosity. I was enjoying our conversation. However, studies have shown all this since Nixon. This countr has a hard time admitting when it’s wrong.

  159. hey all – that’s great re:MJ the ganja type, etc…but make calls. Seriously, Wisconsin calling tool is active is still active on the hillaryclinton site, and let’s get to them before the negative, media tidal wave hits tonight.

    I myself still making calls to Chinese Americans in VA, making sure they are voting.

  160. dollars to donuts his mom didn’t have trouble getting treated for her cancer either.

    I am one of those who can counter that I had real trouble..

  161. I live in Boston, not India….I run a company that has a site here and I am visiting. Yes….we should all be making calls.

  162. mj. I didn’t know that. The Dutch have had this for many years and it seems to be working there. The one thing that I have always wondered is why are the people against legalization don’t seem to mind alcohol being legal but don’t want marijuana to be legal? There is clearly an intellectual inconsistency there.

  163. another 100.44 donation from me…trying to get my bro to donate..he kinda tight with his money..would prefer to squeeze the buffalo off a nickel…but im tryin

  164. Idunn you are a riot..your sense of humor is like min…do you get in trouble alot. mine only comes out around family now..

  165. I posted this on MyDD just a bit ago (http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/12/112810/946). I sent an e-mail last night to about 80 people who are pro-Hillary and I sent text messages this morning to about 25 other pro-Hillary people. I anticipate that today will be tough, but I want to make sure people know that Hillary ain’t goin’ nowhere. BTW, I voted today in VA – here’s hoping for a decent turnout. Wishing everyone the best, Mike

  166. “Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), another of Clinton’s high-profile supporters, predicted yesterday that Clinton would be competitive in Maryland, especially in rural parts of the state and the Baltimore area. Mikulski said Clinton is particularly popular with the “night-shift crowd,” such as hospital workers and first responders.”

    These are the people who will be hard pressed to attend those anti-democratic caucuses.

  167. I can stand a liar and unless Obama has made changes to his Healthcare plan…his video where he states he has a universal heathcare, USING his poor dead mother to tug on the hearts of Democrats shows me his true character.

    I believe in medical marijuana it helps my husband with his digestion and with eating since he has cancer.

  168. Welp, I just lost a huge pine tree due to the winds, so I better go get the chainsaw and break bad.

    I’ll check in later, folks.

  169. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-te.primary11feb11,0,5811221.story

    If the Maryland vote is relatively close — that is, if Obama fails to run up landslide margins statewide and in most key congressional districts — he and Clinton will walk away with a near-even split of delegates, and Clinton will probably retain her national lead.

    So what does the Maryland primary fight — hundreds of thousands of advertising dollars, countless phone calls, mail pieces, volunteer hours and in-person visits by the candidates and their surrogates — boil down to?

    John T. Willis, a former Maryland secretary of state with deep experience in Democratic rulemaking, calculates that when all the votes are counted, the primary is probably a fight over no more than six delegates.

    “Clinton would be pleased to hold Obama to between a four- and five-delegate advantage,” he said, while Obama “is trying to get an eight-to-10-delegate advantage, out of the 70” that will be allocated by tomorrow’s primary.

    The competition is so tight, he explained, that “one of the reasons Bill Clinton is going into Battle Grove” — the historically influencial Dundalk Democratic club where the former president campaigned yesterday — was to try to hold Obama to a one-delegate net gain, rather than three, out of the 15 delegates that are allocated on the basis of the statewide vote.

  170. Thinking about going to Ohio (live in MA) the weekend before the primary to help…canvas, visibilities, etc. Anyone know how I can get in touch with people organizing in Ohio?

  171. I love Barbara A. Mikulski! Having her on Hillary’s team; her bench is so packed full of heavy hitters and crafty pitchers. I love it!

    It’s official, I have been banned from ABCNEWs commenting. I swear there’s a mean-spirited Obama supporter on staff at the moderator station there.

  172. true2party…..go to politico…..it is fun fighting with the hordes of obama supporters on that site and you can comment as much and as quickly as you like

  173. I posted a diary on MyDD this morning about the Hillary money bomb – let’s hope it gets some traffic. I sent an e-mail last night to about 80 people who are pro-Hillary and I sent text messages this morning to about 25 other pro-Hillary people. I anticipate that today will be tough, but I want to make sure people know that Hillary ain’t goin’ nowhere. BTW, I voted today in VA – here’s hoping for a decent turnout. Wishing everyone the best, Mike

  174. Merryfield….
    I took the double dare ya. I posted over at Republicans for Obama about todays drive for money. It was such an uplifting experience. 😀

  175. Idunn, pine trees have shallow roots and tend to be top heavy. They come down easy. No, don’t go out there if it is still bad! I’d hate for Hillary’s campaign to lose you to being conked on the head by a falling tree!

  176. I live in Amsterdam Netherlands and the legalised soft Drugs in coffee shops (marijuana, and psycadelic mushrooms) are not a problem at all.

    In fact the legalised status makes them much less interesting. I have never been in such a coffee shop!

  177. Obama healthcare plan benefit the Heath Insurance…it will not bring costs down. How do I know…I worked for a major Health Insurance and is board certified in my position. So I know the talk and gargon and where the bodies are buried.

    The most important thing you must remember is that Health Insurances don’t think of themselves as providers of Healthcare but as Financial Delievery Systems for Healthcare when they go to Wall Street or lobby to the government. So the fix is in to not promote Healthcare because it will bring down profits.

    I could go on but when I say that Hillary’s Healthplan is excellent and will change to system so that the focus is on truely providing HEALTHCARE again.

  178. European, I have friends who have been to Amsterdam and that is what they about two kinds of coffee shops: ones that serve only coffee and the others that you described.

  179. No worries, HRT. I’m deep in the Cherokee National Forest. The yard part of my house is treeless except for a few oak. The pines coming down are all up hill in the woods by our pasture. If I don’t go out, I’m safe.

    And I’m NOT going out. 🙂

  180. This is what I would like translated into Spanish (its actually from the post above). If anyone can help.

    “We’ve got a unique opportunity to help our country by helping our candidate of choice, Hillary Clinton. She’s been there for us time and time again, so let’s show our support and the strength of our cause by each donating $10.44 on February 12, 2008.

    Here are the reasons:

    First, Obama supporters think they own democracy. Let’s show them they don’t. Democracy belongs to the people and leaders should be in it for the people, not for cult-like adulation.

    Second, if they can give $5, we can give $10. If they can give a pint of blood, we can give two. Point is, our resolve is bigger than theirs. We will make it hurt twice as much because we are stronger and our candidate is better.

    Third, the 44 cent designation shows we have faith that she is destined to be “44.” Hillary Clinton is and will be the 44th President of the United States of America.

    Fourth, the small amount is doable for the majority of people. If you question whether it is for you, forgo eating out that day or give another amount, but leave the 44 cent designation to show you know Hillary is 44.

    Fifth and more importantly, we have our girl’s back. She’s not only fighting a tough campaign, but she is also fighting the MSM, the GOP and the rampant sexism ingrained in our society. We have her back, and in times like these where her message is being drowned out by the evil that men do, we can help buy her a little more voice so that our voice, the voice of the people- the voice of the disenfranchised voters in Florida and Michigan, the poor, the elderly, the infirm without access to medical care, the veterans deserted by their own countrymen……. IS HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR.

    So join us on February 12th and show some love for our girl. Go to HillaryClinton.com and donate $10.44 and make sure the rest of the world hears the message that Hillary is 44!”

  181. I noticed on MyDD there’s a grassroots, Obama petition to make sure MI and FL delegations don’t get seated. I think possibly after today’s money bomb, we should start a similar petition arguing that we must not strip the franchise away from the millions of people in Florida and Michigan. We must honor their votes and let their voices be heard. Everyone was on an equal playing field in both of those elections because no one (except Obama in FL) campaigned in those elections.

  182. Everyone was on an equal playing field in both of those elections because no one (except Obama in FL) campaigned in those elections.

    Which reminds me….where the hell does Bambi get off suggesting that Floridians didn’t vote for him because they never got to know who he was? HELLO?? People in friggin’ CHINA know who he is! I mean, let’s get real.

  183. Ok guys, let’s have a little fun. I got $10 that says the next Zogby poll will have Hillary behind by 12pts in Ohio! Any takers?

  184. TPS,

    a coffeeshop is the selling point of soft drugs where you also can have a coffe and other drinks.

    A place where they sell only coffee and drinks they ususally call Café here.

    And- some people mix the coffeeshop situation with general attidtude to drugs. In Netherlands they really are strongly against any sort of drugs.

  185. Everyone had an operation in FL. It was very competitve. Hill won. She should have pointed out that she got nearly 200k more than McCain there.

  186. just a comment about the marijuana. I have been an alcohol and drug counselor for over twenty years. Marijuana is addictive. It is very harmful to our youngsters. Alcohol is probably the most dangerous drug there is to the human body. Marijuana can cause lung cancer…just like cigarettes. Not all people who use become addicted. But to those who do…marijuana is one of the hardest drugs to stop…due to its long half life. Someone who uses it and is addicted…will continue to have urges to use….and test positive for usage …up to eight weeks. No other drug does that..because it goes in the blood stream. Marijuana is stored in the body fat….and prefers the fat around the brain and the sex organs. Much more research needs to be done. I do believe it can be adjusted to be helpful for those who needs its affects due to a serious illness. The same as alcohol was once used as a pain killer. Now we have other things that are safer…and more effective. Just a comment. I do know that those under 18 prefer marijana because it is easier to get. In fact…it is passed out like M&M’s to kids in high school. Again…because someone uses it…doesn not mean they are addicted. To be addicted…you have to meet certain criteria. Addiction is a genetic thing.

  187. Sorry, I completely disagree with your assessment. Kids have more access to marijuana than alcohol or cogarettes precisely because it is not part of the regulated market.

  188. rigso,
    HRC has won 2 caucuses-Nevada & NewMexico(pending recount). I think in places where she can get her voters out she can kick butt in a caucus.

  189. Martin Frost’s view about MD & Virginia

    Barack Obama, hot on the heels of Hillary Rodham Clinton, hopes that Tuesday’s Chesapeake primary (in Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia) will give his campaign the necessary momentum for the rest of the primary and caucus calendar.

    In order to do this, he probably needs to carry all three by significant margins. Conventional wisdom now says he will do just that.

    If he does not meet expectations, it is possible that he could fall short because of the Maryland vote.
    Though now considered a heavily Democratic state and a generally liberal enclave, Maryland has a long — but little-known — history of racial division that may cut into Obama’s margin. It is not by accident that the Mason-Dixon Line (separating the North and the South) is the northern boundary of Maryland.

    Let’s look at a little history. President Abraham Lincoln had to struggle early on to keep Maryland in the Union at the start of the Civil War, and pro-secessionist forces actually caused the first casualties of the conflict in Baltimore.

    Maryland Democrats in 1966 nominated segregationist George P. Mahoney for governor (he lost to Republican Spiro Agnew, then an obscure county official). And segregationist George Wallace won significant electoral support in Maryland in his 1968 independent bid and his 1972 pursuit of the Democratic presidential nomination.

    Fast-forward to 2006. Ben Cardin, a white Democratic U.S. representative, defeated Kweisi Mfume, former NAACP president and congressman, in the Democratic Senate primary. He went on to defeat a black Republican, then-Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, in the general election.

    Maryland has a large black population, which would seem to favor Obama. The black vote could be even larger than normal because of a contested congressional primary in Prince George’s County and a sliver of neighboring Montgomery County. In the 4th District, community activist Donna Edwards is challenging Rep. Albert Wynn from the left; both candidates are black, and the primary will be held the same day as the presidential voting.

    However, for a variety of reasons, the dynamics of the Maryland presidential primary may boost Clinton’s support. White voters on the Eastern Shore and in the western part of the state are very conservative and may be reluctant to vote for a black candidate.

    The liberal bastion of Montgomery County in the D.C. suburbs contains many former officials from Bill Clinton’s administration, and Hillary Clinton’s share of the women’s vote could be very strong there.

    Also, largely ignored is the fact that Maryland has a sizable Jewish population. When I was a young man in the 1960s, my Maryland relatives used to kid me about the fact that Baltimore had a larger Jewish population than the entire state of Texas, where I grew up. Texas has probably caught up by now, but the Jewish population of Maryland is still very large and very politically active.

    Exit polls from Feb. 5 showed Clinton winning more than 60 percent of the Jewish vote in New York and New Jersey. In other states — such as Massachusetts, California and Connecticut — Obama did comparatively better among Jewish voters. The question is whether Maryland will behave like New York and New Jersey or like the states with more liberal suburban Jewish populations.

    In addition, both Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley and Sen. Barbara Mikulski have endorsed Clinton.
    Obama must also win a contested race in Virginia to run the table Tuesday night. He enjoys the endorsement of that state’s popular governor, Tim Kaine, and can be expected to attract a number of white liberals in the burgeoning Northern Virginia suburbs. The state also has a sizable black population.

    Keep your eye on Maryland. Clinton might do just well enough there to keep this race muddled. A mixed bag of election results Tuesday night would help her, because large states such as Pennsylvania and Ohio, which vote in the next two months, are bastions of labor activism, which has already provided her significant support. Texas, another big state, is less clear.

    The large Hispanic population will help Clinton on March 4, but Obama will enjoy the support of the sizable black community and will do well among liberal whites who are a factor in Texas primaries — though not in the state’s general elections.

    Maryland could wind up being a state that either propels Obama forward or slows his momentum. Keep your eye on this fascinating state that no one notices — except when the Ravens win the Super Bowl or the Orioles make a run at the American League pennant.

  190. i agree, thats why i hope she is working to get supporters into those few texas caucuses, latinos, older folks, anyone we can!

    also, anyone know what its looking like in Wisconsin?

  191. I noticed on MyDD there’s a grassroots, Obama petition to make sure MI and FL delegations don’t get seated.
    **********************************************
    That won’t happen because the DEMS will lose the GE this fall, and the DNC knows it, but what I do believe they will TRY to do is push that do-over with caucuses or split the delegates 50/50.

    We must keep pressure on the DNC to seat the delegates as is and support the states fight to be seated as is.

  192. Nikk1, I would not take that bet! 🙂

    I’m sure that he is lying in wait, and will resurface 2 days before March 4th. Ha-Ha.

  193. Feds Announce Plan to Delay Foreclosures

    14 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Bush administration, trying to deal with a worsening housing slump, announced a new initiative Tuesday aimed at helping homeowners about to lose their homes. For qualified homeowners, it will put the foreclosure process on hold for 30 days.

    Dubbed “Project Lifeline,” the new program will be available to people who have taken out all types of mortgages, not just the high-cost subprime loans that have been the focus on previous relief efforts.

    The program was put together by six of the nation’s largest financial institutions, which service almost 50 percent of the nation’s mortgages.

    These lenders say they will contact homeowners who are 90 or more days overdue on their monthly mortgage payments. They will be given the opportunity to put the foreclosure process on pause for 30 days while the lenders try to work out a way to make the mortgage more affordable to the homeowner.

    “Project Lifeline is a valuable response, literally a lifeline, for people on the brink of the final steps in foreclosure,” Housing and Urban Development Secretary Alphonso Jackson, said at a joint news conference with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.

    He said the goal was to provide a temporary pause in the foreclosure process “long enough to find a way out” by allowing homeowners and lenders to negotiate a more affordable mortgage.

    Paulson said that the new effort was just one of a number of approaches the administration was pursuing with the mortgage industry to deal with the country’s worst housing slump in more than two decades.

    In December, President Bush announced a deal brokered with the mortgage industry that will freeze certain subprime loans, those offered to borrowers with weak credit histories, for five years if the borrowers are unable to afford the higher monthly payments as those mortgages reset after being at lower introductory rates.

    “As our economy works through this difficult period, we will look for additional opportunities to try to avoid preventable foreclosures,” Paulson said. “However, none of these efforts are a silver bullet that will undo the excesses of the past years, nor are they designed to bail out real estate speculators or those who committed fraud during the mortgage process.”

    Lenders will begin sending letters to homeowners who might qualify for the new program in coming days. Homeowners won’t qualify for the program if they have entered bankruptcy or if they already have a foreclosure date within 30 days or if the home loan was taken out to cover an investment property or a vacation home.

    The Mortgage Bankers Association reported that at least 1.3 million home mortgage loans were either seriously delinquent or in foreclosure at the end of the July-September quarter.

    Private economists are forecasting that the number of foreclosures could soar to 1 million this year and next, about double the 2007 rate.

    Officials did not have an estimate of how many people might be helped by the new “Project Lifeline” program.

    Democratic critics said the administration was still not doing enough to help with a serious crisis which has slowed the overall economy to a near standstill and raised worries about a full-blown recession.

    In a statement, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, said that last year she had called for a 90-day moratorium on subprime foreclosures. She said the administration has been slow to react to the unfolding crisis.

    “The administration’s latest initiative is welcome news, but more remains to be done,” she said in a statement.

  194. my addictions include diet cokes, french fries, and Cspan (politics). i think it’s genetic b/c my mother is addicted to current events. my sister is addicted to working and cigs.

  195. Hi albenda, here is a translation of the text you wanted.

    Tenemos una oportunidad única de ayudar a nuestra nación apoyando a nuestra candidata preferida, Hillary Clinton. Una y otra vez, ella ha respondido cuando la hemos necesitado. Demostremos nuestro apoyo y la fuerza de nuestra causa, contribuyendo cada uno $10.44 el 12 de febrero. 2008.

  196. HILLFANS, DONATE TODAY,PHONEBANK, AND VOTE IN MD,VA,AND WASH DC ALSO. MONEY BOMB DAY. LET’S SHOW BIG MEDIA AND OBAMA HILLARY HAS GRASSROOTS SUPPORT AND WILL NOT GO AWAY!!! GO HILLARY GO!!!!

  197. tiburones,
    LOL! I’m surprised he hasn’t gone bankrupt by now. I mean how wrong can this guy get before he finally goes under.

  198. nikki – why do I feel there wont be any takers for your bet ?!!
    This is how its going to play out :
    Zogby will now come out with polls for OH and TX that show a single digit lead for Hillary.

    A week before the election, that lead will be in the low single digits and he’ll be screaming about BO “momentum”.

    3 days before the election, they’ll be tied in his tracking poll with him ahead by a point or two.

    2 days before the election, he’ll be up by 5 pts.

    1 day before and that lead is up to around 5-10 points.

    Election day- BO ahead by 13-15 pts !!! and the ObamaTards(ht Wonkette) will be jumping up and down..

    He’s got it all planned out, the numbers are ready, he’s just waiting for the right time. Did you read his explanation for CA ? “We overestimated the black turnout and underestimated the hispanic vote” , LMAO !!

    Mr Zogby, shameless and corrupt, can go F** himself .

  199. And what the heck is Martin Frost talking about? H4T has told us the black population in Texas isn’t that much of a factor outside of Houston.

  200. I used to live in Pikesville, MD and I can tell you that there is a HUGE contigency of Jews living in certain pockets of MD. Pikesville is in Baltimore Cnty.
    I hope that they go for our girl. I’m also counting on Mo. Cnty, Eastern Shore, Allegheny, Carrol, Fredricksburg etc voting for her.

    I know that she won’t win any of the states today, but I’m hoping and praying that it’s not a blowout and that the delegates are kept close.

    Guys, continue to call Wisconsin- I know that they have counted this state off for her but it’s possible.

  201. Hillary also has the same strategy in VA, to hold the delegate differential down. That’s why Bill was campaigning where he was there.

  202. Awww. Is this an AA session w/o alcohol…? I am addicted to many things, including pizza, code red mountain dew, men, HRC, and speculative blogging.

  203. If you all get a chance, it’ll only take a second, can you go onto MyDD and recommend the diary by “unabashed dem” about the Hillary Money Bomb. I’m hoping if it gets enough recs that maybe it’ll be on the recommended diaries list.

  204. “”We cannot wait to stop global warming,” he said. “We cannot wait to bring this war in Iraq to a close. We cannot wait to fix this country.”

    Well woopdeedoo. WE can’t wait to hear just how the hell you plan to do that, Barry. 🙄

  205. dt,

    Thanks for reminding me how Zogby operates. “underestimated the hispanic vote” in CA, he actually said that?

  206. Now, to speculate. I am looking forward to the primaries in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island on March 4th, and then to Kentucky, North Carolina, Oregon, Indiana (?) , and Puerto Rico (my fav).

  207. Never underestimate the Latino vote. I am surprised the DNC is so stupid as to throw away a massive swing vote to John McCain by disenfranchising Florida. He is so dumb. I hope they all realize that this vote is not the democratic party’s, it is either HRC’s, or John McCain’s if BHO is nominated. I hope they make the right decision.

  208. Hold tight guys and stay away fromt he tv tonight and tomorrow. LEt’s hope and pray that his ‘bump’ after tonight doesnt’ take him more than 4-6pts in the nat’l polls.
    Does anyone know if there is a time diff. in Wisconsin. I’m on EST and I won’t be free until 9:15pm EST tonight. I wonder if I will have time to make calls for 30mins. I’m hoping that they are 1 hr behind me.
    Does anyone know.

  209. Yeah, “we cannot wait,” so the other day he talked about cutting emissions by 2050. Through both natural causes and environmental destruction, he and many of the rest of us will probably be dead by then; that’s some plan.

    He’s NO environmentalist, in my opinion. I think he’s the opposite, another Bush. The kind of person who should NEVER be in office, especially right now. I’m gonna keep saying this. I can’t help it. If the shoe fits….

  210. zogby is still living down his big leads for obama in nh and california. don’t believe him. HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY!!!

  211. I only have $14 left this month…and I have contributed 3 times this month. Still, I’d like to add to today’s donations. I don’t think I can make it on $4 for the next two weeks.

    Maybe there should be an Obama dessert instead of a candy bar. BlackBarry Crumble comes to mind.

    I’m sorry. I usually behave myself.

  212. Zogby had BO leading Hillary 13 pts on TT in CA. I did not know of this till after TT because I made it a point not to visit mydd and other sites on TT knowing that I would be pissed with the polls there. Am so glad I did that because if I had seen those numbers, I would have gone crazy ! Yes, that was his explanation. “Underestimated the hispanic turnout “. Still makes me laugh – she won by 10 pts !! What credibility does he have left ? (not that he had any to begin with !)

  213. Planning for my usual states dismissal tonight.

    Maryland: something about crabs. (lol)
    Va.: something nasty about Doug Wilder and superglue
    DC: so much joke fodder to choose from, where will I begin?

  214. rigso, he is further ahead there I think. We have an uphill battle there. As I predicted, obama won Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Missouri (by a lil’ bit), Kansas, Colorado, and all of these midwestern states. This is and will be HRC’s tough spot on the electoral map. The thing is, in the general, with HRC, we win Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Michigan, and others in the midwest, but we also make up for losses in the midwest with wins in the west in New Mexico, Nevada, and Colorado, and maybe this year, Texas, a majority minority state. Obama doesn’t win in the west. We do.

  215. the only recent poll in wisconsin is the arg poll wich came out is a week or so old. it had hillary up 50% to obama’s 41%. but arg is suspect plus we have to wait for this week when other polling outfits are in the field there if not there already.

  216. I’ve just donated $100.44 to HRC. I don’t know where this campaign is going. What I do know is that I have never felt so strongly about a candidate in all my years of voting. I will vote and donate to Hillary and Hillary only. If I have to write her name in I will do that. Barak Obama cannot count on my vote and neither can the Democratic Party. If she comes out swinging and fighting, I’ll continue to donate and fight. I will give up only when she does and not a second sooner.

  217. Idunn’s link to CBS @9:02 also leads to Hillary’s 60 Minutes appearance-it’s a very clear and sharp picture-better than my TV.
    BO’s interview w/ Steve Croft is also there.

    Thanx Idunn!

  218. hillfans, i can’t wait to see how many new doners we have and money raised by tonite. my only gripe is hillaryclinton.com will not put up a baramometer to track the money raised and they take forever to post the results.

  219. hawk Says:

    February 12th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
    Never underestimate the Latino vote. I am surprised the DNC is so stupid as to throw away a massive swing vote to John McCain by disenfranchising Florida. He is so dumb. I hope they all realize that this vote is not the democratic party’s, it is either HRC’s, or John McCain’s if BHO is nominated. I hope they make the right decision.
    ***********************************************
    The Latte liberals from the east coast are so out of touch with their own party. That’s why the DNC should be moved out of D.C and settled in the westcoast so they will get a true 50 state prespective, they have tunnel vision.

  220. terrondt,
    It seems like we’ve had all sorts of suspect polls/pollsters this cycle. I never take any 1 poll too seriously positive or negative, but I try to look for trends over time.

  221. meiyingsu Says:

    February 12th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
    is low turnout in MD good or bad for hillary?

    Yes, because aa’s are motivated. They will make up more of the electorate if turn out is low, just like LA.

  222. …People should know by now that this day will likely not be a good one for her. That’s been predicted all over the place. People shouldn’t be getting their hopes up.

    Instead, try posting lots of positive stuff about her and lots of negative stuff about him. I think her supporters have to be the media; the mainstream one overall isn’t do its job against him. It’s pro-him. It’s his right-arm.

    The Glenn endorsement will be nice. I hope she gets some more over the next few days.

  223. eveyone try to make calls in VA and MD/DC if you can, remind folks to get out and go to polls!! I will be making some soon, when i get out of class

  224. nikki, evidently that idiot thinks that 11% of the population, almost all centered around Houston or Dallas, is a “sizable” AA vote in TX. It is around 25% in Houston, drops to 6% or LESS in a lot of the rest of the state. I think there are whole counties in TX where there might be 5 African Americans.

    Of course, the Latinos outnumber them by more than 3 to 1, but they won’t mention that. Many Latinos are not registered Democrats, either – they are swing voters concerned with national security, which is how Bush won Texas. They will vote Hillary, and NEVER vote Obama. The black population is not going to help him much in TX outside of Houston and maybe a bump in Dallas.

    Latinos will win TX for Hillary. And these Latina women we will be sending to caucus are NOT going to be bullied. They are STRONG!

  225. Fran, I am pissed. Hillary should have people calling all her voters in MD and getting them to the polls. Low turnout is an opportunity missed by Clinton, IMO.

  226. i know that lawschooldem linked to techpresident and the Robin Morgan essay again, but this snippet is a good reminder for us all:

    “Our President, Ourselves!”

    Time is short and the contest tightening. We need to rise in furious energy—as we did when Anita Hill was so vilely treated in the U.S. Senate, as we did when Rosie Jiminez was butchered by an illegal abortion, as we did and do for women globally who are condemned for trying to break through. We need to win, this time. Goodbye to supporting HRC tepidly, with ambivalent caveats and apologetic smiles. Time to volunteer, make phone calls, send emails, donate money, argue, rally, march, shout, vote.

    Me? I support Hillary Rodham because she’s the best qualified of all candidates running in both parties. I support her because her progressive politics are as strong as her proven ability to withstand what will be a massive right-wing assault in the general election. I support her because she knows how to get us out of Iraq. I support her because she’s refreshingly thoughtful, and I’m bloodied from eight years of a jolly “uniter” with ejaculatory politics. I needn’t agree with her on every point. I agree with the 97 percent of her positions that are identical with Obama’s—and the few where hers are both more practical and to the left of his (like health care). I support her because she’s already smashed the first-lady stereotype and made history as a fine senator, because I believe she will continue to make history not only as the first US woman president, but as a great US president.

    As for the “woman thing”?

    Me, I’m voting for Hillary not because she’s a woman—but because I am.

  227. mj, they HAVE been calling. Don’t blame Hillary and her campaign every time something does not go the way we’d want.

  228. I know, mj. But the demographics don’t tend to favor her there. That should be people’s focus now, downplaying any wins of his. He’s winning certain states because his base, AA voters primarily plus snooty rich faux-leftists, make up larger amounts of the population. That won’t be the case in the general.

    Someone posted an article above saying: “Obama has won the last five primaries”–I may be mistaken but shouldn’t that be caucuses mostly? We gotta keep on top of the spin out there and unfortunately still being brought in here….

  229. Right, but if Obama’s latte liberals are not showing up anyway, she could take the opportunity and get her voters to the booth.

  230. ohh yeah.. low turn out means chances are high for hillary.. her campaignt team must get all HRC supporter’ to voting places… if she had campaign team on groung in LA, she could have pulled upset victory..

  231. Can someone email the campaign and light a fight under them then? That’s better than complaining about it here, where the campaign is probably not reading….

  232. media is horrible… i never imagined AC 360 is such a weird guy…
    i used to respect CNN a lot.. oh gosh it has been horrible watching that channel now knowing that they are bluffing

  233. Latinos will win Texas for us, you are absolutely right. They will win us all of the areas outside of dallas/houston, and I think women will come out big too. Texas looks good. I think if we focus heavily on Texas and Ohio, we can pull this off easily, and make it look damn easy too.

    The scenario will beas follows in the GE:

    BO vs McCain= Latinos break for McCain on his prominence in immigration battles, on the right side of the issue. Also he is from the west and well respected on Latino’s number 2 issue, NTL. Security. Obama loses the Latino vote, many independent mom’s go for McCain, and he loses us the GE.

    GRC vs McCain= Latinos break for HRC. She has been in the community since 1972 with Raul Yzaguirre, she worked on several Latino college scholarship and grant programs (GEAR UP is huge), Latinos love HRC and WJC. McCain loses against HRC on Ntl. Security, because if he wants to get bin Laden so bad, and al Qaeda, why aren’t we leaving iraq and headed to afghanstan? We win the independent women, Latinos, and some skeptical republican women, and thus we win the GE.

  234. As someone who attends school with ALOT of journalists wannabe’s, let me generalize here and say that most have NO integrity, if somoene is telling them to do something and cover it in a certain way, predatory or not, they will do it….

  235. mj, jithendra – alright, I concur, good point. i think the issue is the grassroots organizing – where the campaign seemed to have more traditional volunteer organizing efforts. the grassroots is starting now because we’re realizing there’s a gap, but precisely from people like us – the grassroots; can we catch up is the question?

  236. There’s no given in politics only through hard work and that’s why I love Hillary, she makes me proud to see her out there campaigning and fighting for us. There is no “Cult of Personality” but hard work at getting results that benefit all Americans.

    The Swamp is writing about Texas and Latinos:
    weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/by_frank_james_it_looks.html

  237. I don’t know how…haven’t had a chance to look into it. I’m sick today with cramps, have barely slept in days. I’m also afraid I can’t control my dislike if someone–a woman especially–tells me s/he’s voting for BO. I’m a very passionate uninhibited speaker. Don’t want to do more harm than good.

    I’m trying to do my part here using my writing voice and ideas, trying to keep this place from self-destructing. I think there are various ways to support the campaign….

  238. Hillary4Texas,
    RE the black vote & TX- That’s what I thought. As long as Hillary is strong with latinos and women there I don’t see BO winning even with the caucus part of it.

  239. Go to the Hillary site, and let’s BLITZ Wisconsin with CALLS! Whine about how the campaign should have done more? I don’t think so.

    We ARE the campaign. WE need to do more!

  240. CNN is horrible now. They and MessNBC are vying for the lowest of the low in this election.

    Also sis just told me something about Dan Abrams last night browbeating a superdelegate cause he had lunch with Chelsea Clinton. Said he made snide remarks about this young man who I tlhink is 21 and kept hammering him about never having voted…hey, the kid would have been about 17 or so during the last presidential election.

  241. Some additional thoughts about TX- Ron Kirk didn’t win the senate seat a few yrs ago and the mayor of Houston, Bill White, is caucasian. So clearly AAs aren’t a political force in the state.

  242. Hawk and everyone else…we should get a group together to go to PR if it comes down to it! That’s going to be freaking awesome, she could seal the nom there….party! Who’d think PR could possibly play a huge role in this election?

    I heart the latinos.

  243. We need to make sure HRC wins these LAtinos, I hope my people aren’t duped into drinking any of the koolaid of lies he is going to tell them. We need Dolores Huerta and our other Latino reps down there immediately.

  244. “epic blow out.”

    –Did they use this term? More propagandist reporting. How come no one said Clinton’s big wins in the necessary states to win was an

  245. Tiny Dancer, I am down. I will be out of school by then. I am going to do everything I can to make sure that he does not steal Latinos from us by lying to them. He is a nobody to us, and should remain that way.

  246. just donated to Hillary….and damn it, i forgot to add the .44 [i’ll donate again later today]

    i understand that the latino votes are crucial in texas, but lets not forget the asian votes, they are solidly behind hillary…..we need to get them to vote.

  247. Fran,
    I’m very selective in what I watch too. I don’t consume 24 hr cable news its just such a giant waste of time-inaccurate reporting, pundits don’t what the h*** they’re talking about. The sunday shows don’t have any appeal unless someone I like or respect is on. For me its mostly local news, internet, local paper, and international news outlets.

  248. “I am so disappointed to read about VA.”

    –Why on earth are you so disappointed? You’ve been here for days. Practically everyone’s been saying he’d win today, that the demographics and polls favored him.

  249. Isn’t it a little too early to be wringing our hands about VA? Its only 1pm there. What time do the polls close?

    Look we know she doesn’t have a good chance today. Lets deal with that and look forward. If I want negativity I’ll go back to DU at least then I’ll be getiing the negativity from the Obama camp, not the clinton one.

  250. Geez, mj, we have been saying on here for DAYS that the point today was to pick up a few delegates, and focus on March. No one else here is surprised or disappointed.

  251. I voted for Hillary an hour ago. I was overcome as I looked at my final ballot with her name on it. I hope we win MD for her.

  252. “The person who wrote it is a hillary supporter.”

    –So? I’m sorry, that person’s behaving foolishly, in my opinion. Does she hear Obama supporters calling Clinton’s Florida win an “epic blowout”? Did he? Of course not. He supposedly said Florida doesn’t count.

    As I’ve gone on and ON here, propaganda affects people’s minds no matter if they want it to. Some supposedly Clinton-supporting people are spinning things the same biased way the mainstream biased media is. They seem to think this is the way “reporting is done.” Yeah, it is sometimes, and it’s called BAD JOURNALISM. I’m a writer. I think I know propagandist rhetoric when I see it.

  253. mj,

    If you get nervous or feel like you can’t take it, try finding some of HRC’s interviews on YouTube. Her 60mins interview was fantastic! You will feel so much better. I know it helps me if ever get discouraged. I remember those dark days before NH when everyone was writing our girl off. I was watching Access Hollywood and Hillary did a sit down with them. She was just incredibley calm, serene. It seemed like she didn’t have a care in the world. She’s incredibly confident and it rubs off on you.

  254. lol, mj, I’m not gonna forgive you because you didn’t really do anything to forgive. You do sound nervous. People need to relax and STOP READING AND THEN POSTING propagandist rhetoric. If people have numbers to post, post them, but anything that uses soaring complimentary pro-Obama language (“epic,” “powerful,” “extremely gifted,” “nonstop victories,” “nonstop defeats,” “powerful momentum”), turn your mind off to it as soon as you see it and do NOT fill this place with posts of that stuff. The Obama lunatics have the bulk of the mainstream media to whore for them. Must THIS side help HIM too? That’s FOOLISH.

  255. Mj I saw the post you’re talking about and his prediction is based on the emails he’s getting, which is beyond unreliable. If you based the election on internet response Obama would have blowout wins in every state.

    Ignore that stuff and wait for the polls to close. I don’t expect a win today, but if she can keep the delegates within reason I’ll be estatic.

  256. Agreed 100% Fran; well-said. Let’s all stop the pointless fretting.

    After two consecutive blown presidential elections, Democrats need a candidate who can beat John McCain. We need someone with substance, who can clean up America’s economy and the mess in Iraq. Hillary needs our support, and this is the time for all of us to roll up our sleeves and get to work.

  257. About that “epic blowout” .. people are still voting, but, really now, Hillfans, how many voters do you think are checking the blogs to find out how the vote is going before they go to the polls?

    Calm down. Cool it.

    Here’s some REALLY interesting reading from over a year ago. See comments 25 and 37 first.

    thecapitolfaxblog.com/wp-mobile.php?p=3018&more=1

  258. hey all – get angry! Incompetence will not occupy the White House. (put http:// in front).baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.hillary12feb12,0,94551.story

    from Joe Wilson in the

    Battle-tested
    Hillary Clinton fought the Republican attack machine, and emerged stronger

    By Joseph C. Wilson IV
    February 12, 2008

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    With the emergence of Sen. John McCain as the presumptive Republican nominee, the choice for the Democrats in the 2008 presidential election now shifts to who is best positioned to beat him, in what promises to be a more hard-fought campaign – and perhaps a nastier one – than Democrats anticipated.

    Sen. Barack Obama’s promise of transformation and an end of partisan politics has its seductive appeal. The Bush-Cheney era, after all, has been punctuated by smear campaigns, character assassinations and ideological fervor.

    Nobody dislikes such poisonous partisanship, especially in foreign policy, more than I do. I am one of very few Foreign Service officers to have served as ambassador in the administrations of both George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton, yet I have spent the past four years fighting a concerted character assassination campaign orchestrated by the George W. Bush White House.

    Sen. Hillary Clinton is one of the few who fully understood the stakes in that battle. Time and again, she reached out to my wife – outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson – and me to remind us that as painful as the attacks were, we simply could not allow ourselves to be driven from the public square by bullying. Mrs. Clinton knew from experience, having spent the better part of the past 20 years fighting the Republican attack machine. She is a fighter.

    But will Mr. Obama fight? His brief time on the national scene gives little comfort. Consider a February 2006 exchange of letters with Mr. McCain on the subject of ethics reform. The wrathful Mr. McCain accused Mr. Obama of being “disingenuous,” to which Mr. Obama meekly replied, “The fact that you have now questioned my sincerity and my desire to put aside politics for the public interest is regrettable but does not in any way diminish my deep respect for you.”

    Mr. McCain was insultingly dismissive but successful in intimidating his inexperienced colleague. Thus, in his one known face-to-face encounter with Mr. McCain, Mr. Obama failed to stand his ground.

    What gives us confidence that Mr. Obama will be stronger the next time he faces Mr. McCain, a seasoned political fighter with extensive national security credentials? Even more important, what special disadvantages does Mr. Obama carry into this contest on questions of national security?

    How will Mr. Obama answer Mr. McCain about his careless remark about unilaterally bombing Pakistan – perhaps blowing up an already difficult relationship with a nuclear state threatened by Islamic extremists? How will Mr. Obama respond to charges made by the Kenyan government that his campaigning activities in Kenya in support of his distant cousin running for president there made him “a stooge” and constituted interference in the politics of an important and besieged ally in the war on terror?

    How will he answer charges that his desire for unstructured personal summits without preconditions with a host of America’s adversaries, from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Kim Jong Il, would be little more than premature capitulation?

    Contrary to the myth of the Obama campaign, 2008 is not the year for transcendental transformation. The task for the next administration will be to repair the damage done by eight years of radical rule. And the choice for Americans is clear: four more years of corrupt Republican rule, senseless wars, evisceration of the Constitution, emptying of the national treasury – or rebuilding our government and our national reputation, piece by piece.

    In order to effect practical change against a determined adversary, we do not need a would-be philosopher-king but a seasoned gladiator who understands the fight Democrats will face in the fall campaign and in governing.

    Theodore Roosevelt once said, “It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again … who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly.”

    If he were around today, Roosevelt might be speaking of the woman in the arena. Hillary Clinton has been in that arena for a generation. She is one of the few to have defeated the attack machine that is today’s Republican Party and to have emerged stronger. She is deeply knowledgeable about governing; she made herself into a power in the Senate; she is respected by our military; and she never flinches. She has never been intimidated, not by any Republican – not even John McCain.

    Barack Obama claims to represent the future, but it should be increasingly evident that he is not the man for this moment, especially with Mr. McCain’s arrival. We’ve seen a preview of that contest already. It was a TKO.

    Former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV was in the Foreign Service for 23 years, and served in Iraq in the years leading up to the Persian Gulf war. He is the author of “The Politics of Truth.” His e-mail is jcwivwdc@yahoo.com

  259. argh – my links never post, so this from the Baltimore Sun. my original message: Get Angry! Mr. Incompetence will not occupy the White House. From Joe Wilson:

    Battle-tested
    Hillary Clinton fought the Republican attack machine, and emerged stronger

    By Joseph C. Wilson IV
    February 12, 2008

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    With the emergence of Sen. John McCain as the presumptive Republican nominee, the choice for the Democrats in the 2008 presidential election now shifts to who is best positioned to beat him, in what promises to be a more hard-fought campaign – and perhaps a nastier one – than Democrats anticipated.

    Sen. Barack Obama’s promise of transformation and an end of partisan politics has its seductive appeal. The Bush-Cheney era, after all, has been punctuated by smear campaigns, character assassinations and ideological fervor.

    Nobody dislikes such poisonous partisanship, especially in foreign policy, more than I do. I am one of very few Foreign Service officers to have served as ambassador in the administrations of both George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton, yet I have spent the past four years fighting a concerted character assassination campaign orchestrated by the George W. Bush White House.

    Sen. Hillary Clinton is one of the few who fully understood the stakes in that battle. Time and again, she reached out to my wife – outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson – and me to remind us that as painful as the attacks were, we simply could not allow ourselves to be driven from the public square by bullying. Mrs. Clinton knew from experience, having spent the better part of the past 20 years fighting the Republican attack machine. She is a fighter.

    But will Mr. Obama fight? His brief time on the national scene gives little comfort. Consider a February 2006 exchange of letters with Mr. McCain on the subject of ethics reform. The wrathful Mr. McCain accused Mr. Obama of being “disingenuous,” to which Mr. Obama meekly replied, “The fact that you have now questioned my sincerity and my desire to put aside politics for the public interest is regrettable but does not in any way diminish my deep respect for you.”

    Mr. McCain was insultingly dismissive but successful in intimidating his inexperienced colleague. Thus, in his one known face-to-face encounter with Mr. McCain, Mr. Obama failed to stand his ground.

    What gives us confidence that Mr. Obama will be stronger the next time he faces Mr. McCain, a seasoned political fighter with extensive national security credentials? Even more important, what special disadvantages does Mr. Obama carry into this contest on questions of national security?

    How will Mr. Obama answer Mr. McCain about his careless remark about unilaterally bombing Pakistan – perhaps blowing up an already difficult relationship with a nuclear state threatened by Islamic extremists? How will Mr. Obama respond to charges made by the Kenyan government that his campaigning activities in Kenya in support of his distant cousin running for president there made him “a stooge” and constituted interference in the politics of an important and besieged ally in the war on terror?

    How will he answer charges that his desire for unstructured personal summits without preconditions with a host of America’s adversaries, from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Kim Jong Il, would be little more than premature capitulation?

    Contrary to the myth of the Obama campaign, 2008 is not the year for transcendental transformation. The task for the next administration will be to repair the damage done by eight years of radical rule. And the choice for Americans is clear: four more years of corrupt Republican rule, senseless wars, evisceration of the Constitution, emptying of the national treasury – or rebuilding our government and our national reputation, piece by piece.

    In order to effect practical change against a determined adversary, we do not need a would-be philosopher-king but a seasoned gladiator who understands the fight Democrats will face in the fall campaign and in governing.

    Theodore Roosevelt once said, “It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again … who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly.”

    If he were around today, Roosevelt might be speaking of the woman in the arena. Hillary Clinton has been in that arena for a generation. She is one of the few to have defeated the attack machine that is today’s Republican Party and to have emerged stronger. She is deeply knowledgeable about governing; she made herself into a power in the Senate; she is respected by our military; and she never flinches. She has never been intimidated, not by any Republican – not even John McCain.

    Barack Obama claims to represent the future, but it should be increasingly evident that he is not the man for this moment, especially with Mr. McCain’s arrival. We’ve seen a preview of that contest already. It was a TKO.

    Former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV was in the Foreign Service for 23 years, and served in Iraq in the years leading up to the Persian Gulf war. He is the author of “The Politics of Truth.” His e-mail is jcwivwdc@yahoo.com

  260. Guys,
    I’ve been thinking about Hillary’s courtship of John Edwards. He has to have something she wants. I just can’t figure out what it is.

  261. Just donated my $10.44.

    BTW Hillary was discussed today on the HOT TOPICS portion of THE VIEW. Joy and Whoopi both discussed how unfair the media coverage has been towards Hillary. Joy also discussed how if Obama ends up being the nominee, that the GOP will swiftboat him.

  262. Excerpt from Connie Schultz’s column:

    “I don’t think every woman should support Hillary Clinton just because she’s a woman. Smart women disagree all the time, and that has never been more obvious than in our heated discussions about Clinton.

    I do, however, think every woman should support the notion of Hillary Clinton. That means judging her by her record and her plans for our future, not by her marital stamina, her choice in suits or her version of femininity. Even if we can’t support her as a candidate, we ought to acknowledge the history that she is making — for us and for our daughters and granddaughters. And we ought to point out to them that making history sure has a downside.

  263. I have no idea mj, obama supporters perhaps. Its not even 2pm yet. Lots of people vote after they get off work. They don’t have reliable exit data at this point and exit data isn’t reliable anyways. There’s still lots of ballots to be cast and absentees to be counted. Its way too premature to be fretting about the results.

  264. aubry9, it really is an amazing article by a strong independent woman. I have three daughters and I completely understand what Connie is saying in that column.

  265. I don’t understand why anyone would think that given the Clintons vast political experience, that they don’t know exactly what they are doing, whether it is getting the vote out or addressing the media. To suggest that they don’t know what they are doing or that any of us know more about getting the vote out just seems odd to me. And anyone lurking that’s an Obama fan is probably smirking that we would think there is a weakness in the campaign. I don’t think this is the right message to send, but that’s just my opinion.

  266. Please forward the column by Connie Schultz to your friends. As Aubry9 said, it is a powerul column from a woman who has had it enough.

  267. Whoopi is absolutely right. The repubs will tear BO to shreds, but they aren’t the only ones. His best friends in the media will join in to help. That’s what’s so funny about their fawning and lack of scrutiny- they LOVE MCCAIN even more than him. He DESERVES TO WIN according to Tweety Matthews. I think Hill will get the nomination but oh what fun would it be to watch the Georgetown Social Club turn on their own creation.

  268. Dot – James Carville and Paul Begalia managed Bill. There’s and awesome documentary about Bill’s first campaign entitled The War Room that you and everyone else should check out! It shows Carville, Begalia and Stephanapolous in the trenches. I love it. It should be a must watch.

  269. I may not be a father, (at 18 I’m certianly not planning) but my sister has 2 daughters and my brother has 2 daughters, my nieces. They are just precious, and to know that by tearing Hillary Clinton down, bashing her, amplifying the double-standard, it hurts them too. It just dissapoints, and angers me.

  270. Thanks JanH. Just in case anyone ignored what you wrote, here’s the repost. I couldn’t have said it any better:

    I don’t understand why anyone would think that given the Clintons vast political experience, that they don’t know exactly what they are doing, whether it is getting the vote out or addressing the media. To suggest that they don’t know what they are doing or that any of us know more about getting the vote out just seems odd to me. And anyone lurking that’s an Obama fan is probably smirking that we would think there is a weakness in the campaign. I don’t think this is the right message to send, but that’s just my opinion.

  271. Tiny Dancer, Dot – I said this on another thread, but the documentary filmmakers of “The War Room” acknowledge it was Hillary who coined “war room” – so she knows what she’s doing. it’s on the DVD intro.

  272. I voted in Virginia today afternoon. There was one other voter besides me in the hall. My wife voted a few minutes later. I saw a couple of Obama signs and a couple of Ron Paul signs at my location. The whole thing was over in less than 5 minutes.

  273. Has anyone asked the campaign to give a total for what todays money bomb has accumulted too.

    Maybe we should schedule such a drop weekly. I’m using my grocery $ and cutting back on the snacks.

  274. Ininla. Yeah she does. She may have underestimated Obamas grassroots support and the impact of these !@$@ caucuses, but I have complete faith in her campaign. She’s tough, wicked smart and reslilent. She’s been target #1 on the media and GOP list for a long time and she’s still standing. No woman has made it this far in a presidential campaign before. No one talks about how a WOMAN won CA, NY, NJ etc. That’s historic and pretty freakin’ awesome.

    One thing that keeps me warm at night is knowing that if by some chance Obama pulls this out the media and gop will come at him full force and I will have NO sympathy when his supporters cry foul. None.

  275. If you’re a politics junkie and a Clinton supporter, “The War Room” is the greatest documentary of all time. 😉 I own it on DVD and have probably watched it a dozen times.

    Its lessons are powerful, and are still being followed by successful Democrats today:

    1) NEVER turn your back on ANY constituency of the Democratic party. You fight for every vote. You don’t insult factions of the Democratic party. You invite EVERYONE to join you. And after that’s done? You reach out to swing voters and practical, reasonable moderates.

    2) The media are predictable, if you understand how they work. Use your understanding to your campaign’s advantage.

    3

  276. Ni Hao (hello) everybody!

    Did my little part today (besides donating), sent an email to the author of “Hillary Comes Alive”, he had originally said BO won all the primaries this weekend, and I noted that is should be corrected to mostly caucuses.
    _____________
    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:10:02 -0500
    From: “John Dickerson”
    To: Psymac
    Subject: Re: Caucuses, not Primaries

    LA held a primary so they weren’t all caucuses, but it’s been fixed. Thanks for the note.

    __________

  277. JanH,BMerryfield- Comment of the week. Hillary’s made some moves I didn’t agree with but like you all said she and Bill having been running campaigns for decades and have forgotten more about politics than I’ll ever know.

  278. so she is runnin ads in wi-and gotv ground? dont know\
    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/12/657845.aspx

  279. I own the war room too. Maybe I’ll see if I can get some parts up on youtube when I get home. Carville’s speech at the end gets me right here…

  280. In my opinion, not only has Obama been given a free pass by the media, by the party, he’s also been coronated. Nonstop Obama love from the get-go. There is NOTHING impressive to me about people voting for him under those circumstances.

    In contrast, Clinton has been given NO passes by the media, by the party. It’s been a nonstop hatefest toward her, from everything to her ankles to her face to her daughter to her husband to her breasts to her crotch–she’s been viciously misogynistically attacked from day one. In spite of being bombarded all that negativity, many voters have been ignoring it and pulling the lever for her anyway; she’s won big repeatedly, and the voters still love her. In spite of all that negativity, she’s still able to raise a lot of money over a short period of time. This place’s posts generate hundreds of comments, over a thousand each. I and it seems plenty of other people never made a campaign contribution till her campaign. She’s STILL able to keep her poise and intelligence and expertise with details when she’s speaking on TV, in a factory—wherever!

    In light of all this and so much more, I think she and her campaign have done fantastic. SHE deserves the grand accolades.

    …Yet in spite of that, supposedly Clinton-supporting people (one who I’ve named before here but shall remain nameless right now) are STILL complimenting Obama and his campaign and its “strategy.” I have NEVER—not once—seen his crowd complimenting Clinton and her campaign. What are complimenters like that thinking? For them, is it just support the party over everything else? Will they just pull the lever for him anyway if he’s the nominee, just ignore all the evidence that shows he’s behaved just like Bush? Will they help put this person in office, work for his campaign if he gets the nomination, simply because he has a D in front of his title? Will they continue to give the party their votes no matter how the party behaves, no matter how misogynistically, and thereby condone that party’s behavior, because why should the party do what the constituents want if no matter how it behaves–pro-what the constituents want, anti-what the constituents want–THE PARTY STILL HAS THEIR VOTES.

    Obama’s a thug, in my opinion. His campaign and its “strategy” has been a nauseating thuggish repeat of the thug Bush’s campaign and strategies. From where I’m sitting, I see nothing to admire there in the Obama crowd, nothing to compliment, and doing so, only hurts CLINTON’S side. It’s a slight on her. It’s taking something away from her and giving it to him: positive attention. He’s gotten a boatload of that already; she’s barely gotten any.

    How can some people not see all this by now? Have all these years of Bush taught them nothing? Or maybe they’ve grown used to living in a country run by thugs? Maybe the bar of tolerance for thuggery has been raised? All I can say is: ICK.

  281. Thanks BMerryfield and nikki22.

    I’m in my fifties now and I can’t remember a more exciting time that when Bill Clinton was running for office the first time. Hillary repeated that energy when she won New York so convincingly. Bill Clinton was up and down and up and down …definitely a nail biter. It made his win all the more satisfying and no matter what happens this time, Hillary will stand tall.

  282. JanH, BMerry, nikki22, all great points. One thing Hillary couldn’t have predicted six months ago was the amount of fawning coverage Obama would get and the amount of negative coverage she is getting. Yet, she is still standing ahead in popular vote and essentially even in delegates.

  283. geez, i just got home from a little grocery shopping. awww, i just recieved a thank you letter from hilllary in my email in box. it had a cute photo and letter album on supporters who gave money even when they cannot afford to give. i was riding in my car listening to talk left on sirrius radio when i hear lynn samuels. hillfans, samuels is no fan of obama that’s for sure but i get kinda tired of her using the c-word and f-bomb in every sentence. he callers are even worse. i think she is one of the few hillary supporters on talk left. anybody listen to her on talk left?

  284. HOT PEPPERS?!!

    In the Leon Harris interview from this morning, toward the very end, she’s asked about here eating hot peppers for health. NOW I know why I bonded with this candidate on a subconcious level (I’m a hot pepper lover too). Reason number 531 why I support HRC!

  285. Fran, great post. I essentially agree with everything you say on that post. By the by, did you read that column by Connie Schultz?

  286. Tiny Dancer – in addition to her historic wins, this whole campaign has really exposed the underbelly of this sexist society and especially the media who continue to downplay her achievements, continue to render what she’s done invisible (like many women feel in this society) – I think this the campaign has done something else historic, it has influenced so many women (and even men), including myself. I never thought that there might be a potential second coming of a feminist movement – I hope it truly ignites, and if so, would carry her through in the GE.

  287. Tiny Dancer, I never watched the war room (I better duck and run). I will appreciate it, if you could post clips of it on you tube whenever you can. I have heard so much about it.

  288. Yeah, Psymac, I pointed that out above, about that article being wrong. This is so damn frustrating! The media is continually spinning him into much more than he is. To me it’s so OBVIOUS.

  289. The media has been reprehensible this election. I only wonder how things would have been different if they weren’t giving Obama a hand job every 2 minutes. Edwards might still be hanging around.

  290. Fran, might I suggest you start writing to every newspaper and internet site .. fantastic read regarding Hillary. Cnn Cafferty File would be a great place to shoot the first one..

    I have come to the conclusion that the men on tv media are flat out jealous of Hillary Clinton. They know she is brilliant and they become those green monssters. Yes, she has withstood the assaults just fine. This is h

  291. “In VA (on notLarrySobato) there is THIS report:

    “UPDATE #2- Virginia Run, one of the most Republican precincts in Fairfax County has had 230 Democrats and 130 Republicans so far. WTF? Poll workers there just called me and said some Republicans have admitted being told to take the Democratic ballot and vote for the weaker candidate.”

    Hillary seems to be getting GOP votes in this precinct, if that trend continues, she will do better in overall numbers. i don’t imagine any HRC fans will complain, but it is a crappy way to get votes, I suppose. “

  292. If they are voting for the weaker candidate, they are voting Obama. Let’s hope this is some of those Repub’s for a balanced budget.

  293. No, TPS–haven’t read it.

    I’m a hot-pepper lover too. Saw that in Clinton’s interview. Is that REALLY why we’re all supporting her? lol Chili/hot peppers supposedly aren’t addictive, at least capsaicin doesn’t seem to be. Still, I’ve been wondering if something else about them is addictive. I do crave them sometimes….

  294. I don’t think it’s so much that the media doesn’t know what they are doing. I think they know exactly what they are doing. What upsets me is that it’s not just the male reporters but also the female reports who are going after Hillary with a sledgehammer. They don’t like her. They don’t want a woman in the White House.

    The fact that they are now trying to negate the moral wrongs on that comment about Chelsea is a case in point.

    Personally, I think Hillary’s higher intelligence level intimidates them. The media are just bullies and have really lost all integrity.

    What continues to amaze me though is how she responds to their childish humor, with grace and a slight rap on the knuckles.

    Let the media make fools of themselves. Let them build a shrine to Obama. Something tells me Hillary wants none of that. Something also tells me that the damage they are doing to their careers will be irreparable in the end.

    I think Obama could

  295. hillfans, remember even if hillary nets say 40% in md and va she will gain delagates. same in wisconsin. bottom line, obama will be ahead by 60 or so delagates next tuesday. this is not a big lead at all so don’t fret. texas is a lock but keep our eye on the ball in ohio and pa. don’t panick and waver. HILLARYIS44!!!

  296. did anyone just watch dan abahms interview sarah rice??? is she not the biggest liar? she makes me sick the way she spins. it also makes me sick how msnbc commentators just let her go on and on and on without interruption! ugh!

  297. Obambi’s Free Pass:

    Fran’s right about BO’s free pass, that MSM media first propped him up, then put him in a tie, now declares his clear path to the nomination, and why won’t Hillary just drop out “for the good of the Democratic Party”. Nice try.

    But the other side of it is, What the Press Giveth, the Press Can Taketh Away. Imagine just how fast they could turn on Obama “Jeez, he’s only had two unremarkable years in the Senate, and knows diddly about foreign policy”. We know that’s what will happen.

  298. I’ve been checking out the web today. Seems we’ve got some real traction with “Operation 10-4, Good Buddy.” I’m totally stoked that this idea has and is catching on like it is.

    Thank you….each and everyone of you who has spread this far and wide. If you check out the blogs at HC.com you’ll see hundreds of folks talking about it and moving it forward today. It’s overwhelming to know that each of us can and will make a difference by today’s end.

    WOW!

    So, I think the next idea should be something insane. How about something involving our veterans? They are an important part of this campaign and Iraq and Afghanistan are still ongoing. Let’s show them that Hillary and her supporters have nothing but love for our men and women in uniform. Any ideas for that or anything else can be sent to me at okieatty@gmail.com.

    WOOT!

  299. divabunny, it is been long known here to stay away from big media, ASPEACIALLY MSNBC AT THIS TIME. for every hillfans sanity.

  300. Taylor put a great blog up:

    Get a grip.

    February is a tough month for Clinton. I warned you that the calendar favored Obama. He’s having a remarkable string of wins and deserves credit for it. But how many large states has he won? Illinois. It’s not enough. We’re not going to win South Carolina in November, nor Nebraska; but maybe Missouri, which Obama won by a very narrow margin. Clinton has won New York, California, Massachusetts against the entire Kennedy clan, plus quite a few very red states. Texas and Ohio are coming up and that’s where she’s focused right now, doing satellite interviews all day why many of you, let’s see how to put this… … whine.

    Quit channeling Eugene Robinson. You’re falling into the trap they hope you stay in, especially with the polling coming out today showing Obama ahead nationally. Don’t trust polls.

    If you listen to some Republicans, you’ll see that this Obamamania has got them licking their chops. Pat Buchanan on “Morning Joe” made the point of all points yesterday. Obama has made a huge mistake in this campaign. He has not defined himself. That makes him incredibly vulnerable as a general election candidate. Never mind I don’t see a national strategy for him to win. Again, Idaho won’t do it, even as impressive as his rallies have been. He deserves a lot of credit for the inspiration he’s delivering, but there is no beef. In a general election, it simply will not be enough.

    One Republican showed himself today, which I think is instructive to everyone. Robert Bluey voted for Obama. Bluey director of the Center for Media & Public Policy at The Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C.

    It’s partly for this reason that I decided to cast my vote for Barack Obama today. Although national polls give Obama a small advantage over John McCain in the general election, I firmly believe that McCain would handily defeat the inexperienced Obama. Secondly, I fear what the Clinton attack machine would do to McCain. Their ferocity would be worse than George W. Bush’s ugly attacks in 2000. Anyone who reads this blog regularly knows how much I dislike negative campaigning, and a Clinton-McCain matchup would be just that.

    Because my vote for Obama will likely be ridiculed by many friends on the right, I want to explain exactly why I chose to cross party lines to back the Democrat senator from Illinois.

    1) Electability. According to Real Clear Politics, McCain would beat Clinton by 1.2 percentage points. McCain, however, loses to Obama by 3.7 percentage points using the same polling average. Despite what these polls indicate today, I predict the numbers would flip once Democrats pick a nominee.

    As Clinton pollster Mark Penn told Chris Cillizza, “The Republican attack machine redefines the Democratic candidate.” Fortunately (or unfortunately) for Clinton, there’s nothing left to define. But in the case of Obama, there are millions of Americans who know little about him or his far-left views. His lack of experience makes him even more vulnerable. It is for this reason that I would give McCain the edge in a head-to-head matchup with Obama. I’m not so sure the same is true against Hillary. … ..

    The wingnuts are floating trial attack balloons aimed at Obama. So far they’re pitiful. But since Obama hasn’t defined himself, you can bet they’ll get busy doing it for him. They’re saving their big guns in case Democrats make the mistake and give him the nod.

    Follow Clinton’s lead. Put your energy to good work, people. Start calling for Clinton.

  301. @janh: i couldnt agree with you more… the locker room mentality from the men in inexcusable, but the fact that female commentators have stooped so low is incomprehensible!

    this is a vey good article on the treatment of hrc by the msm. i would engourage all to take a gander. this speaks volumes about why the GOP is happy to have barry out front!

    thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

    p/s i just got slammed by one of the lemmings on huffpo for calling barry, “barry”… wow! i love it! didnt know they were so easily offended seeing that he went by this name during his younger years???

  302. BTW tthis part is in quotes:

    ” It’s partly for this reason that I decided to cast my vote for Barack Obama today. Although national polls give Obama a small advantage over John McCain in the general election, I firmly believe that McCain would handily defeat the inexperienced Obama. Secondly, I fear what the Clinton attack machine would do to McCain. Their ferocity would be worse than George W. Bush’s ugly attacks in 2000. Anyone who reads this blog regularly knows how much I dislike negative campaigning, and a Clinton-McCain matchup would be just that.

    Because my vote for Obama will likely be ridiculed by many friends on the right, I want to explain exactly why I chose to cross party lines to back the Democrat senator from Illinois.

    1) Electability. According to Real Clear Politics, McCain would beat Clinton by 1.2 percentage points. McCain, however, loses to Obama by 3.7 percentage points using the same polling average. Despite what these polls indicate today, I predict the numbers would flip once Democrats pick a nominee.

    As Clinton pollster Mark Penn told Chris Cillizza, “The Republican attack machine redefines the Democratic candidate.” Fortunately (or unfortunately) for Clinton, there’s nothing left to define. But in the case of Obama, there are millions of Americans who know little about him or his far-left views. His lack of experience makes him even more vulnerable. It is for this reason that I would give McCain the edge in a head-to-head matchup with Obama. I’m not so sure the same is true against Hillary. … .. It’s not Taylor saying that…

  303. What is happening to Hillary Clinton in 2008 is exactly what happened to Al Gore in 2000. The more competent, experienced and proven politician is dismissed for the more likable guy you “wanna have a beer with”.

    The same thing happened in 2004 to a lesser extent to Kerry.

    But now is different. We have learned from history. We can’t let the media distort elections in the name of feel good stories that increase their ratings.

    TIME FOR COMPETENCE.

    TIME TO PICK A PRESIDENT.

    TIME FOR HILLARY CLINTON.

    This is our moment. Let’s get to work and get Hillary’s message out past the misogynistic media. Read Joseph Wilson editorial above. She knows what she is doing. She has been down this path before and if anyone can pull out a victory past all this bias and this airy useless feel good group thinking it is her. Make a call. Make a $ X.44 donation. Want something easy? Click on the link below t Joe Wilson’s editorial and email it to everyone in your address book. Its one of the most cogent arguments in her favor in a long time.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.hillary12feb12,0,94551.story#comment-form

  304. I think back to the medias coverage of Iowa and how they were all wetting themselves after Obama won and yet the same coverage was not afforded to Hill’s win in New Hampshire. In fact the only one who seems to point out that Hillarys campaign is also historic is Hillary. Hopefully the history books paint a better picture.

    I for one am proud to be a part of it and proud to say I voted for a woman, something my mom never thought she’d be able to do and only dreamed I’d get the chance to.

  305. dot, I honestly think that she isn’t getting even more female support because…she’s pretty. She always was pretty, she always will be. She’s one of those people you just like looking at her/his features; they’re pleasing. In sexist society, females have been taught to hate pretty females; many females seem to think pretty females have easy, blessed lives. Maybe if they’re models or actors they do, but anywhere else, NOOOO.

    PLUS, Clinton has brains. People–both male and female–are allowed to have one or the other, beauty or brains, but both? Nope. They’ll often get attacked left and right then.

    W.r.t. my writing, I don’t know, dot. I’ve been attacked, shunned and censored so much, I don’t solicit it anymore. But feel free to send that post elsewhere! Use this version with the corrections:

    In my opinion, not only has Obama been given a free pass by the media, by the party, he’s also been coronated. Nonstop Obama love from the get-go. There is NOTHING impressive to me about people voting for him under those circumstances.

    In contrast, Clinton has been given NO passes by the media, by the party. It’s been a nonstop hatefest toward her, from everything to her ankles to her face to her daughter to her husband to her breasts to her crotch–she’s been viciously misogynistically attacked from day one. In spite of being bombarded with all that negativity, many voters have been ignoring it and pulling the lever for her anyway; she’s won big repeatedly, and the voters still love her. In spite of all that negativity, she’s still able to raise a lot of money over a short period of time. This place’s posts generate hundreds of comments, over a thousand each. I, and it seems plenty of other people, never made a campaign contribution till her campaign. She’s STILL able to keep her poise and intelligence and expertise with details when she’s speaking on TV, in a factory—wherever!

    In light of all this and so much more, I think she and her campaign have done fantastic. SHE deserves the grand accolades.

    …Yet in spite of that, supposedly Clinton-supporting people (one who I’ve named before here but shall remain nameless right now) are STILL complimenting Obama and his campaign and its “strategy.” I have NEVER—not once—seen his crowd complimenting Clinton and her campaign. What are complimenters like that thinking? For them, is it just support the party over everything else? Will they just pull the lever for him anyway if he’s the nominee, just ignore all the evidence that shows he’s behaved just like Bush? Will they help put this person in office, work for his campaign if he gets the nomination, simply because he has a D in front of his title? Will they continue to give the party their votes no matter how the party behaves, no matter how misogynistically, and thereby condone that party’s behavior, because why should the party do what the constituents want if no matter how it behaves–pro-what the constituents want, anti-what the constituents want–THE PARTY STILL HAS THEIR VOTES.

    Obama’s a thug, in my opinion. His campaign and its “strategy” has been a nauseating thuggish repeat of the thug Bush’s campaign and strategies. From where I’m sitting, I see nothing to admire there in the Obama crowd, nothing to compliment, and doing so only hurts CLINTON’S side. It’s a slight on her. It’s taking something away from her and giving it to him: positive attention. He’s gotten a boatload of that already; she’s barely gotten any.

    How can some people not see all this by now? Have all these years of Bush taught them nothing? Or maybe they’ve grown used to living in a country run by thugs? Maybe the bar of tolerance for thuggery has been raised? All I can say is: ICK.

  306. divabunny,

    OMG! That article needs to be posted far and wide. What a travesty of dirty pool. Train wreck is right!

  307. JanH,
    Right on the money! They don’t like her, don’t want her to win, and honestly believe if they just say enough times “Hillary’s doomed” it will come true. I have no respect for these people so I don’t watch them, but from what I gather here they refuse to give her a fair shake. We have to remember the source when you hear these things about “momentum” & “flailing campaign”. Its coming from people who have never supported HRC and don’t want her to get the nomination.

  308. Fran, I think women who don’t support Hillary are joyless. They can not just enjoy the fact that one of their own is becoming President.

  309. So it may be that Repub’s are voting for stupid Obama today to stop Hill. We already have confirmation one of them is.

  310. Virginia has no party registration. So anyone can vote in either party’s primary.

    In Maryland, it’s the opposite. Party registration, and no crossovers, even by independents.

  311. What is happening to Hillary Clinton in 2008 is exactly what happened to Al Gore in 2000. The more competent, experienced and proven politician is dismissed for the more likable guy you wanna have a beer with.

    The same thing happened in 2004 to a lesser extent to Kerry.

    But now is different. We have learned from history. We can’t let the media distort elections in the name of feel good stories that increase their ratings.

    TIME FOR COMPETENCE.

    TIME TO PICK A PRESIDENT.

    TIME FOR HILLARY CLINTON.

    This is our moment. Let’s get to work and get Hillary’s message out past the misogynistic media. Read Joseph Wilson editorial above. She knows what she is doing. She has been down this path before and if anyone can pull out a victory past all this bias and this airy useless feel good group thinking it is her. Make a call. Make a $ X.44 donation. Want something easy? Click on the link below t Joe Wilson’s editorial and email it to everyone in your address book. Its one of the most cogent arguments in her favor in a long time.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.hillary12feb12,0,94551.story#comment-form

  312. OkieAtty,

    I like the idea of donating something to veterans familes on her behalf. It could be like donating to a charity that funds the education of kids of our veterans. We could add “44” cents at the end. That is putting money to a good use. We could pick a day and do it all on that day. What do you think?

  313. Fran,

    I think sometimes women (and I’m not saying all women) are their own worst enemies. They attack their own just so they can be a part of the “boys club.” What they don’t realize is that they are just being used. When their expiry date comes along, those so called “boys who want to be men” will kick them to the curb.

    If Hillary wins, and I do believe she will, I think history will be all the better for it. She will turn your country around in spite of those idiots!

  314. Fran I know you are frustrated but Hillary knows what she’s doing. Obama has drunk the kool-aid and let him…I.don’t.care. Let the media show him at his “best” light. The spolight need to be shown.

    What I care about is focusing on what we have to do. Do not underestimate Team Obama…that way we’ll fight back hard and not let him get in the back way. No surrender!!!

    Re: The media…the media has it’s own agenda and although some journalists might have “drunk the kool-aid, their bosses have not and this is about media consolidation.

  315. “He’s having a remarkable string of wins and deserves credit for it.”

    –There she goes again…sigh. No, that isn’t “remarkable” and he does NOT deserve credit.

    This isn’t high school, he didn’t do a good homework assignment. This is an important election in a near-death country. Obama’s behaved like a thug, he’s had a silver-spoon in his mouth all along. He’s divided your party, and he and his followers have behaved sexistly toward Clinton–another woman–repeatedly. Why defend him? Why compliment him? What kind of strategy is that? A strategy of appeasement maybe? Oh yeah, that works; after all, look how well it worked when appeasing Bush.

    Statements like that support Obama at Clinton’s expense. I cannot emphasize that enough.

  316. mj, this is amazing. Do you guys see what you can do!?! You are awesome. That whole thing started here at Big Pink. Here. Where we bitch and moan and discuss and rehash and share the ups and downs of this primary.

    Just know this: if we can do this, we can help our girl get elected. She’s not on that trail alone. We are with her and sometimes we have to show how much we are with her. We have to step up to the plate a little more often with more money bombs, more phone banking, more handing out flyers, going to precinct meetings, more everything. She can’t take back our country without out our help.

    So give yourselves a pat on the back, but then get back to work. And I’m serious about sending on ideas. We’ll figure out the next viral plan and we’ll make it work. We’re Americans damnit, and we can do anything we set our minds to- including making Hillary is 44 a reality on 1/20/09.

  317. Fran I just read your post. Well said!

    And a big hand to everyone who donated. I rallied some friends today too however I forgot to donate before I left today. I’ll make sure I do it when I get home.

    And I’ll get put some clips from The War Room up if I can figure out how.

  318. He’s having a remarkable string of wins and deserves credit for it.”

    Um…how is this a remarkable set of wins. A smidgen of state populations vote in caucus and he gains some delegates. Hillary wins BIG in state primaries and that doesn’t matter?

    As my mother used to say…OY VEY!

  319. What is happening to Hillary Clinton in 2008 is exactly what happened to Al Gore in 2000. The more competent, experienced and proven politician is dismissed for the more likable guy you wanna have a beer with.

    The same thing happened in 2004 to a lesser extent to Kerry.

    But now is different. We have learned from history. We can’t let the media distort elections in the name of feel good stories that increase their ratings.

    TIME FOR COMPETENCE.

    TIME TO PICK A PRESIDENT.

    TIME FOR HILLARY CLINTON.

    This is our moment. Let’s get to work and get Hillary’s message out past the misogynistic media. Read Joseph Wilson editorial above. She knows what she is doing. She has been down this path before and if anyone can pull out a victory past all this bias and this airy useless feel good group thinking it is her. Make a call. Make a $ X.44 donation. Want something easy? Click on the link below t Joe Wilson’s editorial and email it to everyone in your address book. Its one of the most cogent arguments in her favor in a long time.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.hillary12feb12,0,94551.story#comment-form

  320. TPS, don’t congrats me. It was someone else talking out loud here and then a consensus of readers. It was everyone here and at other sites. Period. And don’t ever think it wasn’t. We are all united for Hillary Clinton on this day and everyday.

  321. LJ, I said in another thread that ALL those admitted instances of Republicans voting for Obama as an antiClinton vote should be pulled together into one article and broadcast far and wide. Obviously, those people hate Clinton so she wouldn’t have their vote in the general election. But neither would OBAMA.

    In my opinion, because of those republican antiHillary votes going to him, when Obama’s wins are extrapolated to the general election, his GE support will likely be overestimated. He has less support than his current wins show.

  322. I did my part and donated $44.44 today.

    Ballots are secret! How would anyone know that Hillary is picking up the Republican votes “for the weaker candidate”? This is just more propaganda–“weaker” must mean Hillary!

    In fact, there is too much evidence to the contrary in previous primaries and caucuses. Republicans vote in Democratic primaries and show up at Democratic causes to support BO. We know that because CNN interviewed some Republicans attending the Iowa caucuses to do just that, and BO always seems to win caucuses in Republican stongholds. There is no doubt in my mind that Republican interference in Democratic contests have skewed the results in favor of BO (and, no, those same Republicans are not going to vote for him in the GE) just as there is no doubt in my mind that Republican dollars have seriously inflated BO’s fundraising. Doesn’t anyone else think there is a logical disconnect between raking in gobs of money but having your base of support be mostly young folks?

    I too think that Bill and Hillary Clinton have forgotten more about politics and running a race than I will ever know. Therefore, this current political cycle was probably anticipated by the campaign. The only problem I have with the situation is the headache I get from the propaganda from the news media–and I don’t even listen to MSNBC or CNN. But in no way do I blame that on the Clintons. They can try to influence the media but they cannot control it. It’s up to US to fight it!

  323. It is a great idea about the veterans…but you know, Hillary needs to get into office so she can push her agenda for the veterans. We know the repubs are funding Obama so we got to continue to get her $ .. I think we may need to do the bomb weekly.

  324. ronald, the difference between what happened to gore in 2000 and to hillary in 2008 is the primaries. gore destroyed bradley and wrapped up the nomination the 1st month. here hilllary is in a struggle with obama in the primaries. big media turned on gore in the general.

  325. Okay, Fran I just read the Taylor Marsh post…yep, she too complimentary on Obama. It’s still about saving the party in the GE but she’s talking to the wrong group.

    Team Hillary is not the ones causing the problems, Team Obama is for the dems in the fall.

  326. I tried to post an article yesterday that’s a memo fromthe Obama camp in Seatle basically encouraging Republicans to come out and vote for him. To paraphrase it says “you can vote for Barack Obama in the democratic primary today and go back to being a republican tomorrow.” The link didn’t go through though. I’ll try to find it when I get home.

  327. Yeah, I have to say Hill’s african american supporters I have met on the blogs are some of my favorite people. 🙂

  328. Okay, I felt so guilty about not being able to make calls today that I stuck another $20.44 in the pot.

    Ya’ll happy now? I screwed myself out of pizza for dinner.

  329. Tiny Dancer, The Obama people have been playing this dangerous (for them) game all through. As I have said before, personally, I will not vote for him in the GE if he is the nominee.

  330. Hi Jan and yes about females self-harming when getting in with nasty males. Those females probably think they’ll be the exceptions, they won’t be mistreated like other females have been (those I-want-in females probably automatically blame women for how they’ve been treated), but that’s not how it works. They’ll still only be females in the end, so second place in the eyes of sexist-type males.

    And thanks for your nice supportive posts here–this place can always use them!

  331. Volunteers slog through ballots in NM caucus

    Associated Press – February 12, 2008 2:45 PM ET

    ALBUQUERQUE (AP) – The Democratic Party has completed its canvass of regular and absentee ballots in the party’s presidential caucus in New Mexico.

    New Mexico remains the last of 22 Super Tuesday states to announce a result from the February 5th balloting.

    Volunteers are still counting more than 17,000 provisional ballots that will determine whether Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama is the caucus winner.

    Clinton leads Obama by 1,123 votes with all but the provisional ballots still to be tallied.

    State Democratic Party Chairman Brian Colon says 157,354 Democrats cast absentee, regular or provisional ballots.

    He says that’s a 54% increase from the party’s first presidential caucus four years ago.

    Colon says he’s confident the party can beat a Friday deadline for certifying the caucus results.

    http://www.kvia.com/global/story.asp?s=7860632&ClientType=Printable

  332. Convention battle likely: Cleaver
    “It looks like we’re going to the convention in Denver without a nominee,” Rep. Emanuel Cleaver told reporters today.

    Cleaver — a superdelegate committed to Sen. Hillary Clinton — said he thinks even if the decision on a nominee isn’t reached until August, party unity can still be achieved.

    The problem, Cleaver said, is that unity “takes a lot of time. And we don’t have a lot of time” against Sen. John McCain.

    Cleaver said he believed Clinton is, in his words, “way ahead” in delegates to the convention to date. Virtually all independent counts show Clinton and Obama neck-and-neck in delegates, even counting committed superdelegates

    primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/10017

  333. Former Ohio Senator and astronaut John Glenn announced his endorsement of Hillary Clinton today.

    “With all of the challenges facing Ohio and America, we need a leader who can deliver real solutions on her first day in office,” Senator Glenn said.

    “Hillary Clinton will immediately go to work turning around our economy and rebuilding the middle class. She has the strength and experience to take on the Republicans in November and win Ohio and the White House.”

    Sen. Glenn was the third American to fly in space aboard the Friendship 7 in 1962, and received the Congressional Space Medal of Honor in 1978. After retiring from NASA, Sen. Glenn served the people of Ohio in the United States Senate from 1974 to 1999, the longest tenure of any Ohio Senator in history.

    He began his career as a Marine Corps and Air Force pilot, flying combat missions during World War II and later Korea.

    “I am deeply honored to have the support of Senator Glenn, a true American hero,” Clinton said. “With his help, we’ll bring our message of change across Ohio.”

  334. 796 Insiders May Hold Democrats’ Key

    By Matthew Mosk and Paul Kane
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Sunday, February 10, 2008; A01

    For months, Patsy Arceneaux sat on the fence as key aides to the presidential campaigns of Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama made gentle but persistent inquiries. Ann Lewis, a close Clinton adviser, called weekly. The 2004 Democratic nominee, Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), called, urging her to jump behind Obama.

    They all wanted to know the same thing: how she planned to vote in her role as a superdelegate at this summer’s national convention.

    Last week, the Baton Rouge party loyalist, one of 796 Democratic insiders who may well determine the eventual nominee, got the call that finally persuaded her — from former president Bill Clinton, the man who 10 years earlier gave her husband a job.

    “When the president called, I said to him, ‘I guess I’ve moved to the top of the food chain,’ ” Arceneaux laughed. “He was very persuasive.”

    The calls were just one aspect of the aggressive campaign underway to win what could be the most important and least understood contest in the race for the Democratic nomination. As a group, the “superdelegates,” a category created by party leaders in 1982 to give elected officials more clout in the nominating process, constitute a prize worth twice as much as the state of California.

    [View a full list of Democratic super delegates (PDF)]

    Though Clinton and Obama have pursued the support of superdelegates for a year, the courtships have intensified in recent weeks as it has become clear that the two are locked in a virtual dead heat for delegate support. Party insiders say this could be the first campaign in more than two decades that reaches the national convention in August without a clear nominee, making the votes of superdelegates — a group made up of current and former top elected officials and Democratic National Committee (DNC) members from around the nation — potentially decisive.

    “Right now, everyone is busting their chops to try to get the remaining superdelegates to commit. And they’re having a real hard time of it,” said Mike Berman, a Clinton supporter who worked on Walter F. Mondale’s 1984 campaign, the last one in which superdelegates were a factor.

    So far, 213 superdelegates have publicly committed to backing Clinton and 139 have pledged their support to Obama, according to a survey by the Associated Press.

    The potential for superdelegates to play a critical role has some party leaders worried that the situation could lend the appearance that the nominee will be selected by insiders rather than by rank-and-file voters.

    That appearance is not helped by the fact that so many superdelegates have clear allegiances. Bill Clinton, for instance, is a superdelegate by virtue of his tenure as president, as are Clinton campaign chairman Terence R. McAuliffe and longtime Clinton ally Harold Ickes. Though Hillary Clinton has a clear edge, former senator Thomas A. Daschle (S.D.), a strong Obama supporter, and Alan Solomont, Obama’s Northeast finance chairman, are superdelegates as well.

    Some have significant financial ties to the campaigns. The Clinton campaign paid Ickes’s company, Catalist, a broker of voter contact lists, more than $125,000 last year. Obama’s campaign also paid Ickes’s firm, spending $25,000 to rent a mailing list.

    A company run by Mark S. Weiner, a Clinton supporter who became a superdelegate by virtue of his party leadership role in Rhode Island, has been paid more than $800,000 for campaign bumper stickers, signs and other paraphernalia.

    Both said in interviews that their company contracts will not influence their votes as superdelegates. “We’re not in anybody’s pocket,” Ickes said.

    Within the Clinton and Obama campaigns, though, the only concern has been amassing support.

    At a recent House Democratic Caucus retreat in Virginia, members who had already committed to a presidential candidate used every spare moment to lobby their colleagues.

    “There’s a concerted effort in both camps to talk to as many people, as many superdelegates, as possible about your candidate,” said Rep. John B. Larson (Conn.), who was originally a supporter of Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.).

    Larson and Rep. Rosa DeLauro (Conn.), another former Dodd supporter, officially endorsed Obama on Feb. 2 and joined a growing network of members of Congress who are organizing an outreach effort to line up more superdelegates for him. With Clinton ahead in superdelegate endorsements so far, Obama supporters are making lists of undeclared House and Senate Democrats and setting up meetings to pitch their candidate.

    “It will be a door-to-door campaign on my part with my colleagues,” DeLauro said, adding that she has set up about a dozen meetings with House Democrats for the weeks ahead. “It will be a formidable operation.”

    Democratic operatives not affiliated with either campaign consider Clinton’s operation in the superdelegate race much more formidable. Rep. John D. Dingell (Mich.), the longest-serving member of the House, never received a call from the Obama campaign, according to a source close to the Energy and Commerce Committee chairman. Last week, Dingell endorsed Clinton.

    And some superdelegates can be worth more than others, particularly those who have the ability to bring along others with them.

    Sen. Evan Bayh (Ind.), who endorsed Clinton last year and is viewed as a vice presidential possibility, is trying to lock down the five DNC members from Indiana who are superdelegates on behalf of Clinton, according to a source close to Bayh.

    Obama’s campaign is working hard to catch up.

    While three members of Connecticut’s congressional delegation have endorsed Obama, the state has six DNC members who are also superdelegates. Two days after Dodd’s campaign flamed out in Iowa, Obama was on the phone, telling Larson about his bid and the high-minded effort to refashion the way campaigns are waged.

    “Obama made the best pitch himself. Sometimes seeing is believing,” Larson said, recalling that both candidates and Bill Clinton called the weekend after the Iowa caucuses. “I heard from him. I heard from Hillary. I heard from Obama. . . . It’s not as if they were beating down the path to me. They were beating down the path to everyone.”

    The calculation of whom to endorse can be complicated: Superdelegates must think not only about their personal views but also about how their votes will be viewed by constituents, said Ickes, who has chased their support on behalf of candidates since 1988.

    “You try to figure out, what factors influence them? Who do they talk to about presidential politics?” Ickes said. “Sometimes, it’s two or three close confidants, sometimes it’s a chief of staff, or someone who raises money for them. Maybe there’s an issue that’s important to them.”

    One adviser helping to oversee Obama’s superdelegate efforts said the Clintons entered the contest for support with a significant edge, by virtue of Bill Clinton’s ability to get on the phone and “try to call in all the chits that they believe they have.”

    The Obama adviser thinks those delegates are all spoken for at this point. “They got all of the low-hanging fruit. The ones left are the ones much harder for them to reach,” he said, referring to the Clinton campaign.

    With more than half of the superdelegates unclaimed, both campaigns remain hard at work. And even those whom they believe are secure could move. Arceneaux, the Baton Rouge delegate whose husband was named by Clinton in the 1990s as head of Sallie Mae, the nation’s largest student loan company, said she is well aware of the fact that superdelegates are not firmly bound to a candidate until they stand up at the convention in August.

    “I always have the option of changing my mind,” she said.

    Research director Lucy Shackleford and research editor Alice Crites contributed to this report.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/09/AR2008020902703_pf.html

  335. everyone who has grannies and granpaps who love you to pieces…get them to donate ..(they love you so they’ll do it for the sake of the country )

    get mom and dad on board to donate.

    get kids on board to donate.

  336. 2/12/08
    Former Congressman Charlie Stenholm Endorses Hillary Clinton

    Posted: Feb 12, 2008 11:42 AM PST

    Former Congressman Charlie Stenholm announced his endorsement of Hillary Clinton for President Tuesday.

    “Hillary has the type of pragmatic leadership we need to get our country back on track,” said Stenholm. “Hillary’s always been a ‘doer,’ and she has the experience we need to lead our country on Day One. My wife Cindy and I are proud to support Hillary and look forward to campaigning for her throughout Texas.”

    “I am honored to have Charlie’s support,” said Hillary. “Charlie has spent a lifetime fighting for our Farm Families and is one of our nation’s most respected and voices on the importance of balancing our nation’s budget.. I look forward to having his help spreading my message throughout the state of Texas.”

    Congressman Stenholm, a member of the U.S. House of Representatives for 13 terms, was born in Stamford, Texas and graduated from Texas Tech University. Congressman Stenholm was elected in 1978 to serve the 32-county, 17th District of Texas in Congress.

    Mr. Stenholm is a strong advocate for agriculture and budget matters, serving on the House Agriculture Committee for his 26-year career and as the Committee’s ranking Democrat for his last eight years in Congress. While in Congress, he earned a reputation for building bipartisan alliances in agriculture, resource conservation, food safety, Social Security, energy, health care, and budget. Stenholm is also one of the founding members or the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Caucus.

    http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=7860609&nav=menu69_2

  337. carbynew,

    Dean and Brazille do not want unity. If they did, they would have seen the folly of their ways a long time ago. If the party doesn’t clean up it’s act soon, it’s going to end up shooting itself in the foot. The Republicans wont have to do a darn thing and will laugh all the way to the bank.

    The party will definitely owe the Clintons big time when they pull them out of this mess!

  338. Leave it to the Democratic Party to screw up an election we should have in the bag. To vote for Hill in the TN primary I had to officially declare myself a democrat. Was that a mistake?

  339. Hi, Friends: I am having a very busy day here at the office, so this is the first time that I’ve “tuned in” – but, I just took a minute to send another $100.44 for today’s “bombe de surprise” fundraiser. Go, Hillary!

    Re the ridiculous assertion that Hill is drawing the R vote, I believe that the evidence points to the contrary: BO won counties in rural parts of red and swing states like Nevada and Kansas, which are unlikely democratic strongholds – unlikely democratic ANYTHING.

    More tonight – if you haven’t done it yet, dear readers, DONATE!

  340. Idunn, eggs are good, but prices are high. They use to be cheap not so much anymore. Think of all the folks who can’t even afford eggs. Or milk. We’re donating so they can have a president worried about them and their problems. Someone who is committed to them and fighting to make this country a better place for them and their children.

    Don’t ever forget that.

    We are the lucky ones. We owe our communities for the embarrassment of riches we have. We have wisdom, and maturity and real hope in our candidate. We don’t need to drink the kool-aid to believe. We can look at her record and KNOW.

  341. Hi, carby. I’m not doubting she and her campaign knows what they’re doing; I’ve actually been defending that. Plus, they’re behind the scenes; most of us here are not. People shouldn’t worry unless they hear worry from the horse’s mouth, which I haven’t heard.

  342. I am not liking these reports of repubs crossing over to vote in the democratic primary. In fact, I am utterly sick of bambi being uplifted by repub support and finances! Does anyone if any of the following primaries are closed to democrats only, esp. Texas, or Ohio?

  343. OkieAtty, I had an email from a big blogger today telling me that I needed to change YOUR web page because it looks like MINE. I checked, they do look like the same person created them!

    Also, new post up.

  344. Md. Democrats Torn Between Clinton, Obama
    Some Maryland Democrats at the polls today said they struggled to choose between two candidates who are facing off in what some called the closest presidential nomination battle of their lifetimes.

    At a precinct in Takoma Park, staff writer Steve Hendrix talked to a voter who said he and his wife had been wavering the last few days between Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. After dismissing Obama early on as running a “substance-less campaign,” lawyer Josh Whitaker said he had been swayed toward Obama recently.

    “His speeches have been pretty persuasive,” said Whitaker, waging a debate with himself as the line of voters moved slowly past the table of baked goods being sold by the Piney Branch P.T.A. “Lately I’ve been thinking more about who can beat McCain.”

    Emerging from the voting booth a few minutes later, Whitaker said he finally decided to cast his ballot for Clinton.
    “I’m pretty much an establishment Democrat,” he said. “I don’t think she’s going to win, but I think she’d make a fine president.”

    Meanwhile, at the student union precinct at the University of Maryland College Park, staff writer Megan Greenwell interviewed a medical student who said he, too, was torn between the two senators.

    “I talked to my parents and my family, but I wasn’t decided till I prayed about it this morning,” said James Houston, 32. “Then I decided to vote for Obama.”

    At a Silver Spring precinct, voter Joel Greer summed it up. Asked by staff writer Nelson Hernandez who would win Maryland’s presidential primary today, Greer said: “The Democrats.”

    Greer, a Democratic campaign worker, had a reason to be enthusiastic. Of the 338 people who had voted at East Silver Spring Elementary School by 10 a.m., 310 of them were Democrats. There were 11 Republicans — outnumbered by 17 people voting in the “other” category, Greer said.

    blog.washingtonpost.com/annapolis/2008/02/md_democrats_torn_between_clin.html?nav=rss_blog

  345. Here are a few pro-Hillary blogs. I don’t go to the Huffington Post or TPM or Politico or any mainstream political blogs anymore because they are all Obamabots now. It’s good to know that there are some sane people left out there blogging and rooting for Hillary:

    http://www.taylormarsh.com
    http://www.riverdaughter.wordpress.com
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/
    http://www.anglachelg.blogspot.com
    http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com/sugar_n_spicea_meeting_pl/

  346. nikki, my hubby is not a HRC fan, nor is a fan of any party. When he got home last night he related how our 👿 supporting buddies are worried about the superdelegate count and think Hillary is queering the deal for 👿 who they think wears a golden crown.

    Hubby told them it was a delegate race and to get over it. Now privately at home, he is more to the point that Democrats looked like they had the thing sown up after how badly Bush and the GOP have bungled things, but that now, if there is a brokered convention or worse the decision is made by super delegates after taking away MI and FL delegates, that he thinks the Dem party will irretrievably fracture. He put in terms of “leave it to a Democrat to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”

    I just yawned at him and told him it was bedtime.

  347. # mp Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Republicans voting for the “weaker dem candidate” will continue in TX, ?OH and PA!

    I am a little worried.
    *****
    Unless I’m reading it wrong, I take it to mean that in their minds, they are voting for Hillary not Barrack. Am I missing something here?

  348. Tiburones, I hope you are right and they are voting for Hillary. I just worry that the GOP leadership, which is not stupid, knows just like we do that Bambi is by far the weaker Dem candidate and might be stealthily encouraging Repubs to vote for him. If was in their shoes, I would certainly do so

  349. In TN we don’t register by party, so really we’re all Independent. Is my state the only state that does this?

  350. Fran,
    I like your style. We should lobby all these big magazines to hire you. I’d love to read you in Vanity Fair. I’m ashamed to say I subscribe mostly for the celebrity and society news. But I’ll have another reason if your there!

  351. “I talked to my parents and my family, but I wasn’t decided till I prayed about it this morning,” said James Houston, 32. “Then I decided to vote for Obama.”

    –A medical student who finalizes his voting decisions…based on praying? Will he someday be praying before finalizing medical diagnoses? If I ever come across him at some doctor’s office, I’ll be running in the other direction before letting him lay a hand on me.

  352. Honestly, even if there are Republicans/ independents voting for him, is that really what the Democratic Party wants to happen? He can’t get enough democrats to vote for him now so the scenario is that if some are stupid enough to get him the win (not going to happen) do they think these same Republicans/independents are going to vote for him in the general election?

    I can’t believe that the Democratic Party is that stupid.

  353. I’m actually using my grocery money to donate so I’m going to be eating pretty lean for the next while. No snacks…eggs here are close to 3.00 a dozen…milk 5.15 a gallon, my dogs neato little food raised last week from .74 to .85, cereal , bread, coffee and everything else has risen. I feel the need to not only help Hillary but to help the country.

    Does anyone besides me feel there is a sort of quiet, serene feel about HillaryCamp right now? I can’t help but think they have whiff of something big. Just a gut feel. Nice to know that Bill is on the phone with the superdelegates and who cares if he calls in some favors .. he’s made careers for a lot of these people.

    We all know that Patti and Maggie were happening so it’s not big story.

  354. my dogs neato little food raised last week from .74 to .85, cereal ,

    Yeah, we have alot of animals. Feed is killing us right now. THAT’s another reason we need Hillary. If she isn’t 44 my animals are gonna starve.

  355. Dot48,

    I think there has always been a quiet and serene feel about the Hillary Camp. It’s just the public and media who go manic at times…lol… I firmly believe that Hillary’s campaign is on track. There might have been a few unexpected bumps along the way, but unlike the other camp who whines and cries when things don’t go their way, Hillary and company hunker down and get on with the job!

  356. I agree that the Democrat party is not unaware of what is happening in the primary. The repubs are screwing Hillary so that they can possibly have the hope to run against Obama. It’s a plain as the nose on your face. Those numbers don’t lie and these superdelegates won’t be swayed by the grandiose of what will be known as the biggest hot air balloon to ever hit an election.

  357. Nikki–thanks a bunch for such nice compliments! Hehe, you can lobby those places for me if you want. I wish I could make some money at writing. Haven’t been able to so far. Writing’s been one loooong struggle with no rewards.

  358. Washington doesn’t register by party either Idunn. Although my voter registration says D on it so maybe you have that option. On the primary ballot you have to agree not to vote for the other party in the caucus but for the caucus I really just had to be breathing to cast my vote. No one checked ID. Wash i was RIPE for voter tampering.

  359. Bayh: Indiana’s primary may prove pivotal
    February 12, 2008

    Indiana’s presidential primary is still nearly three months away, but Democratic Sen. Evan Bayh expects it could help decide the race between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.
    Bayh, who endorsed Clinton last fall after he dropped his own presidential bid, said Monday he was not disappointed in her campaign and continued to support her because of her political experience.
    After primaries today in Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia, the next major contests will be in Texas and Ohio on March 4 and Pennsylvania on April 22. An undecided Clinton-Obama race at that point would turn national attention to the Indiana and North Carolina primaries May 6.
    “Given the nature of our rules, it’s going to be very difficult for either one of these candidates to get a very big lead, which makes it very likely that Indiana will be important,” Bayh said.
    At stake in the Indiana primary will be 72 pledged delegates to the Democratic convention in August. Twelve or 13 lawmakers or party officials will represent the state as superdelegates and are free to vote as they wish.

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080212/LOCAL/802120386/1006/LOCAL&template=printart

  360. N.H. superdelegates split, too
    Party leaders could sway nominating process
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    By LAUREN R. DORGAN
    Monitor staff

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    Feb 12, 2008

    Like other New Hampshire Democrats, they’re closely split between presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton – and some can’t say how they’ll vote until they actually do it.

    But the state’s “superdelegates” aren’t like their neighbors in that they haven’t cast their most important vote yet, and they won’t until the Democratic Nation Convention this August in Denver.

    Nationally, with the Democratic presidential race between Clinton and Obama still tight, increasing attention has been turned to the 796 party leaders and elected officials who will serve as superdelegates to the convention and are free to vote as they see fit. The Democratic nomination could hinge on their choices.

    New Hampshire has seven superdelegates, two of whom have endorsed Clinton and three of whom back Obama.

    Two are officially undecided: state Party Chairman Ray Buckley and Gov. John Lynch. Some insiders expect them to break for Clinton – pointing to signs like the fact that Lynch’s wife, Susan Lynch, endorsed Clinton before the primary – though both men’s offices say they are neutral.

    Obama has the backing of the two Democratic members of the state’s congressional delegation, Carol Shea-Porter of Rochester and Paul Hodes of Concord, who are superdelegates. He also has the endorsement of superdelegate and state Sen. Martha Fuller Clark of Portsmouth.
    As speculation about superdelegates’ importance has picked up, campaigns have devoted considerable energy to wooing their votes and several news organizations have tried to count them. Gaetan DiGangi, a Democratic National Committee member from Merrimack and a superdelegate who has endorsed Clinton, poked fun at his title.

    “I’m wearing my cape right now,” DiGangi joked. “I’m getting called constantly.”

    DiGangi, who said he’s been committed to Clinton for “some time,” demurred when asked about whether he’d change his vote. “We’ve got a long way to go yet,” he said. “I don’t think anybody can say ‘Hey, this is over.’ ”

    Supporters of the superdelegate system say the pool of undeclared votes gives wiggle room to the party in case of pre-convention disaster while providing enough votes to deliver a solid win to a leading candidate whose margin falls shy of clinching the race.

    But here in New Hampshire, most of the superdelegates appear to be firmly committed. Shea-Porter spokesman Clark Pettig said he hasn’t heard a word that would lead him to believe she’d switch from Obama; while DNC member Anita Freedman, a fellow superdelegate from Portsmouth, said she knew what she’d do at the convention.

    “Sure, support Hillary,” she said. “No question.”

    Nationally, according to the Associated Press tally, Obama has accrued 1,108 delegates to Clinton’s 1,136 before today’s primaries in Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C. The threshold for winning the nomination is 2,205.

    Clinton holds the edge nationally among superdelegates, according to the AP, with 243 backing her. Obama has secured 156.

    Another factor in New Hampshire as big as superdelegate swing are the delegates pledged to John Edwards, who suspended his presidential campaign Jan. 30. Edwards’s third-place finish in New Hampshire was projected to give him four delegates. (Clinton and Obama each won nine, though Clinton edged her rival 39 percent to 37 percent in the popular vote.)

    “I know that everybody’s hot to trot on those Edwards people,” said Ann McLane Kuster, a delegate pledged to Obama.

    So far, the party has picked 14 of the delegates who will go to convention, according to party spokeswoman Pia Carusone: six each for Obama and Clinton and two for Edwards. Those 14 people will be charged with picking nine more delegates at a meeting on April 26: eight pledged to a candidate and one unpledged.

    Before that, Carusone said, the party will calculate how many delegates of the nine each candidate should get based on their portion of the vote total and how many candidates are still in the race. Since Edwards has technically only “suspended” his candidacy, he will be up for more delegates on that date unless he drops out before then.
    —— End of article
    By LAUREN R. DORGAN

    http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20080212&Category=FRONTPAGE&ArtNo=802120313&SectionCat=&Template=printart

  361. Idunn, we make our dog’s food. He actually eats better than 90% of the world. Lean beef hand-chopped, frozen mixed veggies, barley. With food costs, many days he eats better than me even.

    I’m confident. I never thought this would be a cake walk. 10 months ago when I started here at Big Pink, I said it be Huck or McCain. And I said it will be Hillary. I stand by that. I know TX and PA are ours. OH will be too with hard work.

    Admin, my contacts aren’t certain we can get money bomb numbers from finance at today’s end. Any chance you can help us with that? Or can any of you out there? My e-mail is okieatty@gmail.com.

  362. Idunn, our grain bill for the horses (down to 4 now) has actually doubled. Hay has tripled, we had to order from Texas this year and it literally broke us. We own Tenn Walkers and they are show horses and we’ve had a lot of fun showing and raising but we are trying to sell out right now, horses, trailers, all tack, show equipement..hate to see them go cause I’m very attached but it is just getting to be too much financial for us now. When we showed we could recoup the feed, hay, show expenses but now they are simply stalled and pastured. Hubby can no longer ride and train and they are just expense for us right now.

    Emjay…got an offer on the house already.. we are close, I think your tip has helped.

  363. Last night on Hannity and Colmes they had a Frank Luntz focus group of voters from D.C. and it was very favorable for Hillary. I can only find a video of part I, but it is very encouraging. Although all of them pretty much think that Obama is inspirational, they agree that Hillary has the substance and will be able to get the job done, and many will be voting for her. Also, Hannity asked them to name a specific accomplishment of Obama’s and again the group couldn’t come up with anything substantial.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/

    I find this very encouraging overall. I have a good feeling about the voting today, and maybe Hillary will pull off another NH tonight.

  364. Last night on Hannity and Colmes they had a Frank Luntz focus group of voters from D.C. and it was very favorable for Hillary. I can only find a video of part I, but it is very encouraging. Although all of them pretty much think that Obama is inspirational, they agree that Hillary has the substance and will be able to get the job done, and many will be voting for her. Also, Hannity asked them to name a specific accomplishment of Obama’s and again the group couldn’t come up with anything substantial.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/

    I find this very encouraging overall. I have a good feeling about the voting today, and maybe Hillary will pull off another NH tonight.

  365. Oregon’s 12 Democratic ‘superdelegates’ lobbied for their votes
    2/11/2008, 10:03 a.m. PT
    By JULIA SILVERMAN
    The Associated Press

    SALEM, Ore. (AP) — With Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois so closely tied in delegate counts, the race for the Democratic party’s presidential nomination could come down to the so-called “superdelegates.”

    Those are party leaders and elected officials, who are free to change their minds and pick their candidates, despite the sentiment of voters in their state.

    Oregon has 12 superdelegates, but only three of them have made endorsements so far. U.S. Rep. Darlene Hooley and Gov. Ted Kulongoski have endorsed Hillary Clinton; U.S. Rep. Earl Blumenauer has endorsed Obama.

    A spokeswoman for U.S. Rep. David Wu said he intends to remain uncommitted for at least the next few weeks, or perhaps until after the primary. Sen. Ron Wyden has said he hopes to avoid having to take sides, because he wants to be able to work with the eventual winner on health care reform.

    The other elected officials who are superdelegates are Secretary of State Bill Bradbury and U.S. Rep. Peter DeFazio.

    Five of Oregon’s Democratic superdelegates are party committee members; all five say they will remain neutral at least until the state’s May 20 primary. But several said they’ve been getting frequent calls from the candidates’ surrogates, trying to woo them, and from national media, wanting to know if they’ve been wooed.

    In the latest overall totals in The Associated Press count, Clinton had 1,136 delegates to 1,108 for Obama. A total of 2,025 delegates is required to win the nomination.

    On the Republican side, the picture is clearer, with Sen. John McCain far ahead of former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Texas Rep. Ron Paul in the delegate chase. Oregon has just three superdelgates, one of whom, Oregon GOP chair Vance Day, has said he’ll remain neutral until after the state’s primary, or until there’s a single candidate left standing.

    The other two delegates were both supporters of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who suspended his campaign last week.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/news-23/1202753358156850.xml&storylist=orlocal

  366. If this thing comes down to superdelegates. I definitely give the advantage to Hill and her team. They’re very savy about the back room stuff.

  367. okie, can you share the recipe for this dog food. My min pin is so spoiled that she wants to only eat “Little Cesars”..about 4 cans a day. She loves the cats food but it is not healthy for her. I have a blue heiler who is also pretty spoiled with her food. My 4 cats won’t eat anything but Friskies in the brown bag. I tried to switch my animals after the dog food/catfood scare and I didn’t have any luck with the Iams or ScienceDiet.

    Honest, I spend more on horse grain, hay, dog food and cat food than I do for my own groceries. It’s a terrible habit to love animals.:)

  368. I take that back, it’s an open primary. So long as you don’t vote in the republican primary you can vote in the Democratic primary. They stamp your voter registration card with a stamp showing that you participated in the primary election. But you stay a member of that party for the rest of the year.

  369. I think the Obama crowd, the Obama voters are sounding more and more cultish. This is scary. I’ve spent the past eight years feeling scared too often. I don’t want to go through this again.

    I’m disgusted that this person ever had the nerve to run when he’s barely entered the starting gate as a federal elected official, and even more disgusted that the establishment end of the dem party have supported his running so fervently. This should have been Clinton’s time. I wish he’d bow his head and take all his toys–his misogyny and petulance and demagoguery–and go back home.

  370. IDunn, when I registered here to vote I can’t remember if they asked affiliation. But when I voted in the primary they asked which ballot did I want Rep or Dem.

  371. As a AA I have to get this off my chest. The AA community is not the main problem…it’s white people.

    Yes, most AA are supporting Obama but c’mon, Adriana Huffington, Chris Matthews, David Shuster, NBC/MSNBC CNN and others more than make up the numbers of AAs. And many AA still want to vote for Hillary Clinton if she win the nomination.

    Don’t fall for Obama’s kook-aid…that’s a tactic he’s using on the Democrats leadership to get his way. He’s burning bridges that took decades to build.

    You noticed he couldn’t pulled that “strong arm” crap in California. Maxine Waters would had broke his knees…She does not play that crap.

  372. Texas..caucus..oh drats. HillaryCamp is well versed now on caucus though and I’m sure her
    ground team is in fighting shape.

    Should this go to Indiana, I have a brother who I could go stay with and help volunteer in that state. He is a diehard republican due to his abortion views but he is behind Hillary for the democrat nomination and is extremely impressed with her.

  373. SurveyUSA/Ohio

    Clinton Looks Ahead to Next Firewall State, Ohio, Where Women and Whites Give Her Hope: In a Democratic Primary in Ohio today, 02/12/08, the day of the Virginia and Delaware primaries and 3 weeks till Ohio votes, Hillary Clinton tops Barack Obama 56% to 39%, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for WCPO-TV Cincinnati, WCMH-TV Columbus, and WEWS-TV Cleveland. Clinton’s lead comes entirely from women, where she leads by 29 points. She and Obama are tied among men. Whites vote 3:2 Clinton. Blacks vote 3:1 Obama. Obama runs strongest in Western Ohio, where he holds Clinton to 50% and trails her by 5 points. In Eastern Ohio Clinton leads by 18; in Central Ohio she leads by 30.

  374. hillfans, some goodnews from the polling front for hilllary. ohio survey usa poll hillary 56% to obama’s 39%

  375. Note: SurveyUSA has been the most accurate pollster of 2008 thus far.

    Dailykos has a diary (I won’t run the link so you see it this week) entitled Best Pollster 2008.

  376. In these ‘obnoxious media’ times, we must keep saying that we have the best candidate — by far.
    We will back her and support her and work to get her the nomination. It will most probably work because we are correct.

    There is always the chance that somehow the obvious will be overlooked and/or other factors will prevail, but it isn’t a good chance and I believe we will win in the end.

    Sometimes it’s hard being right. But Democrats will figure it out and see what we mean. Courage!

  377. Caucus System Muddies Assessment of Democrats
    Shift of a Few Delegates Could Be Key This Year;
    Politics Is Indeed Local

    By JUNE KRONHOLZ

    online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120278068751360997.html

  378. There’s an Obamanut who DJs the afternoon show on what used to be my favorite radio station 1077 The End. I just tuned in and he was spewing hate about Hillary saying that Obama didn’t have his name on the ballot IN FLORIDA and didn’t campaign there and no one came out to vote but she flew down there to claim victory over nothing. And a bunch of other things I won’t repeat because we don’t need that here. But the jist is that Obama is pure and good and above dirty pollitics and is taking the happy inicorn high road to the White House.

    I just wanted to share how twisted the Florida story gets with the Obama crowd. No one came out to vote in Florida?? Wtf.
    I feel sp bad for Florida and Michigan. Denying people the right to vote and having fellow americans say their votes don’t count just because it would adversely affect the chosen one. How does this look to other countries?

    He just lost me as a listenee, btw, but I was gone long before this incident.

  379. “I wish he’d bow his head and take all his toys–his misogyny and petulance and demagoguery–and go back home.”

    Well said Fran. He’s been planning this for the last 3 years ever since he entered the Senate. His fundraising and his organization has been in the works for a long time. His ambition matches his immense ego, thats why he’s had the nerve to run. He doesn’t care if he is the most inexperienced man to ever run for president. Its all about him and his ego.

  380. Dot, it’s easy. We have this frydaddy/slowcooker/steamer thingee we bought at Wal-Mart for $20. It’s non-stick and heats up pretty nicely up to 500 degrees.

    We use lean stew meat, ground beef or roasts (cubed). We buy frozen mixed veggies (carrots, peas, green beans and corn although we’ve recently started buying the carrots/peas and gb’s separately now bc dogs don’t digest corn). Then use either quick barley or rice. The ratio is:

    beef- 50%
    veggies 40%
    grain- 10%

    Borwn the meat on high. Add water to ground beef to make it a finer crumble while cooking it. When meat is brown add veggies and then enough water to cover. Simmer 45 mins or so until nice and cooked. Add enough grain to cook in remaining water in mix. If there’s not enough water, add more. Minute rice, leftover rice from Chinese takeout and quick cooking barley are great for this. You can also use small chunked potatoes in a pinch, but remember to keep grain ration lower than meat and veggies. Our Boston has lost weight on this mix and is healthier, less gassy, more spry and has a prettier coat. He also makes less waste.

    Adjust the ratios as needed for your dog and like always, check with your vet. Some breeds have weird needs. Some good rules to know- NO salt, mushrooms, grapes, raisins, onions, garlic or macadamia nuts. You can give a dog cubed bread with it if they need more starch, but we rarely do.

    My hubby likes to get a good carmelization on the meat so a good gravy is made when water is added. The gravy then soaks into the veggies and grain. The better the gravy, the better the “piggy stew.”

    We store it in a plastic dish from the dollar store. Since our Boston is pretty naturally larger (30lbs), we make food every 4-5 days. 2lbs of meat, 1.5 lbs of frozen veggies and .5-.75 cups of grain with enough water to cook it all. He gets 3/4 to a full cup 2x a day.

    Cube the meat small (3/8”) if you can. Trim away fat. If using ground beef use 4%. Don’t worry about draining off any drippings when it’s that low. Chicken is okay but can be rich for some dogs. Same thing with pork and mutton. And they’ll love corn, and so will the birds. :0 I can tell you we never have to pooper scoop because the birds just eat away at it.

  381. Zogby is looking at the SUSA OH numbers and going “uh oh.. perhaps I need to release the OH numbers that I wrote up last month, real soon…”

  382. Anyone want to make a wager (which the winner will contribute to Hill) about whether nor not Hillary will win Va. and Maryland tonight?

  383. its amazing how many half truths..misinformation and down right lies….the obamanuts spew. Probably that way…cause they interpret his non specific rhetoric to mean what they would like him to say…comes with the kool-aid i believe. Lots of smoke and mirrors.

  384. When Hillary wins, without any spousal attacks on her opponent, it will be done cleanly, respectfuly, and above all fairly.

    Her opponent hasn’t run a clear, respectful, or fair campaign since day one. I won’t go into spousal attacks from his side.

  385. Hillary’s voters tend to vote early (elderly and housewives), with the freezing rain and snow storm hitting the mid-atlantic states that should cut down on turnout as rush hour approaches. So beware of exist polls tonight. Depending on what time of day they were taken the weather could skew results. Wait for actual votes to be counted.

  386. Wow so many typos up there. I was a little worked up lol.

    Anyway today is a good day! John Glenn, the money bomb, the fact that Hillary rocks! Holla!

  387. dt,
    “the most inexperienced man to ever run for president.”

    “That should be a main line of attack.

    This country faces historic problems and the answer is not the most inexperienced man to……..”

  388. Dot, we had our dog on Science Diet Light prior to the scare. After Hill started having recalls, enough was enough. That’s why we made the switch. He’s happier by far. And sure, it takes time and such, but we are responsible for him and his health, we don’t take that duty lightly. He comes before us just like our own children would.

    BTW- I know several folks who lost their pets. One of them is a good buddy of mine who is now stationed in Iraq. He lost his Dobie to kidney failure due to tainted pet food. That was a sad, sad day.

  389. okie, thank you so much. It sounds like the “stew” that Beneful is pushing now in the little tins. I’m definitely going to make a batch and see if I can steer both of mine to this. Heck, I may decide this stuff is better than my beef stew and start ladling it out for myLOL.

  390. I say she’ll hit a homerun tonight (well, not counting DC).

    And if she doesn’t, I have my State insults all ready to go. 😉

  391. hey, gov. strickland voted for hillary to highlight early voting. hopefully hillary can bank early votes in ohio.

  392. Wow, John Glenn!! Thanks a bunch!!!

    BTW, in the huge Hunt for Delegates:
    1) how many California delegates still need to be allocated?
    2) how would the current State of the Race be altered if they counted all of
    a. FL (HRC got 50%, BO ???)
    b. MI (HRC got 55%, “undecideds” got 45%)
    3) or how would it be if the Dems did like the Repubs did, water down their delegates by 50%, to punish them, but not cut off their (the GOP’s) own nose to spite itself.

  393. FRAN @ 3:19 RE THE MEDICAL STUDENT…I DON’T KNOW WHY BUT I CAN’T STOP LAUGHING AT THAT….thats why i come to this oaisis…sometimes i need to laugh i know whats going on outside..i just need to hear from like minds and i don’t give a good god damn who is lurking..

    TERRONDT–no work today?

  394. mj, one thing to keep in mind. There was a fairly large undecided number in these polls. Hillary tends to underperfom in polls compared to actual voting. I suspect that her demographics tend to get underrepresented in these polls. This is not to raise your expectations, by any means. I think you are righ that she is expected to lose all three contests today and also Wisconsin and Hawaii.

  395. Bush was attacked no end for his “inexperience ” by the democrats. At the Repub convention in 2000, they showed a documentary of Bush, working at his ranch and stuff, to show what a “regular” guy he was. And the immediate criticism by the DNC was that the guy had nothing to show for and had such a razor thin resume so to fill up the time, they had to include some “ranch” footage. I distinctly remember Joe Lieberman saying at the Dem convention that it was not Bush’s time for the presidency, considering how little experience he had.

    Who would thought that a democratic candidate would best that “inexperience” 8 yrs later.

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    Hillary Clinton: I pass ‘commander-in-chief’ test
    by Jim Tankersley

    CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. – “Let’s talk politics for a minute,” the guest speaker told Larry Sabato’s American Politics 101 class this afternoon at the University of Virginia. Actually, she went 75 minutes – and the crowd was more than happy to indulge.

    Several hundred students waited up to an hour in near-freezing temperatures to pepper Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) with questions on her presidential campaign and her policy fine print. It was the third event on a four-stop day for the co-Democratic frontrunner, who started her morning at a roundtable in Washington and continued at a tour of a hybrid car plant in Maryland – all in advance of tomorrow’s “Potomac Primary” that includes the nation’s capital and its sandwich states.

    The crowd at this, the university Thomas Jefferson founded, was anything but a typical campaign rally. It was a cross-section of politics students, with equal parts seeming to support Clinton and rival Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and more than a few Republicans thrown in for good measure.

    Clinton sat in a leather chair onstage next to Sabato, the oft-quoted political guru whose past class guests have included Presidents Ford, Carter and Reagan. Her tone was soft and conversational, at times academic and occasionally dipping into Jeffersonian references.

    She never swiped at Obama by name. But she followed her “let’s talk politics” line with an extended riff on why she would be better positioned to beat Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in November, including a claim that she can cross “the commander-in-chief threshold” in a general election – and an implication, perhaps, that Obama cannot.

    Republicans, Clinton said, will not give up the White House with a fight despite what she called the failures of the Bush administration. (“I wish they would,” she added. “It would be the polite thing to do.”) She said the Democratic nominee would need to contend with the full force of a GOP attack “machine,” which she said she has survived already. “There is very little, if any, new information about me,” she said, adding later: “that’s a huge advantage for me.”

    She discounted many of the states Obama has carried in this primary season – such as North Dakota, Alaska, Nebraska and Idaho – as unwinnable for a Democrat in a general election. She said she won the states that matter most for a Democratic victory, including Arizona, Michigan and Florida. (She didn’t mention that Obama did not contest Michigan or Florida, or that he carried the swing states of Minnesota and Missouri.)

    And Clinton said her base of support is stronger for a general election, including women, Latinos and “people making less than $50,000 a year who need a president.”

    Her comments expanded on a memo the Clinton campaign released earlier today from strategist Mark Penn, who contended that Clinton – and not Obama – would beat McCain, a Vietnam war hero, on national security. Penn also said that voters’ perceptions of Clinton are fixed, but that Obama was vulnerable to attacks that would erode his support. When the attacks come, he said, Obama’s coalition “may even crumble.”

    Sabato’s students had more on their minds than electability. They asked about the pros and cons of biofuels, the effects of the Bush tax cuts and her favorite Republican. Someone asked whom she considered her greatest political influence; her winding answer ended with a story about Nelson Mandela bringing three of his former prison guards to his inauguration as president of South Africa, a gesture that Clinton said taught her “You have to give up whatever hate you have. You have to forgive.”

    A student from the Philippines asked whether Clinton believed she had risen to her place in American politics because of – or in spite of – her gender. “I don’t know how to answer that,” Clinton replied. “It’s probably a little of both.”

    Asked about making college more affordable, Clinton lamented the increased difficulty for middle-class families to pay for school and touted her plan to cut costs. The candidate, who last month loaned her campaign $5 million of her own money, also said she empathized with families struggling with tuition costs: “Families like mine,” she said, “we’ll scrape it together and send kids to college.”

    The crowd applauded her warmly but split on its support at the polls. Jackie Gascoigne, a freshman from New Jersey, said she’d already voted for Obama – “I’m just ready for something new” – while her friend Carrie Bauer, a freshman from Alexandria, Va., supports Clinton. “I’m pretty impressed with the position she has in politics,” Bauer said. “For a woman to get there, it’s pretty amazing.”

    Crinstina Kesler, a 29-year-old research assistant in microbiology who just completed her doctorate, entered undecided but left leaning Clinton. She said she had seen Obama last fall in person. “I heard a lot of principles from him – which I loved; I was clapping – but with her, I heard details,” she said.

    weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/hillary_clinton_i_pass_command.html

  397. mj, the polls are like 52 Obama and 38 Clinton in Maryland, so there is undecided vote out there. I also don’t know how strong Obama’s support is.

  398. “As a AA I have to get this off my chest. The AA community is not the main problem…it’s white people. Yes, most AA are supporting Obama but c’mon, Adriana Huffington, Chris Matthews, David Shuster, NBC/MSNBC CNN and others more than make up the numbers of AAs. And many AA still want to vote for Hillary Clinton if she win the nomination.”

    –Yes, carby. You’re right. There’s lots of weird mental stuff going on right now in this election. It seems many white liberals are using this election as a vote for something other than an actual candidate, some philosophical position, or prejudice, or anti-prejudice, or prestige, or something. If one good thing comes out of this mess, I think it is: at least what some people are made of has become clearer.

    I also think eight years of Bush has taken a mental toll on many americans. As a result, too many are having difficulty thinking clearly….

  399. “Senator Barack Obama proposed for the first time setting a deadline for withdrawing troops from Iraq, as part of a broader plan aimed at bolstering his foreign policy credentials. Because if you don’t know your foreign policy, you might only get elected president twice.” — Amy Poehler

  400. 2/19 thru 2/29 for early voting in Texas primary. I still don’t understand the caucus/primary deal there. How does it work?

  401. wbboei:
    So glad you posted the Kipling poem – thanks! Did you know that Joni Mitchell has set it to music? It’s the last track of her new album, “Shine” (sold in Starbucks stores – of all places). I haven’t noticed if it’s downloadable or could be posted here for everyone to enjoy. It’s the best track on the album, and I always listen to it when the turkeys get me down. Makes me think of the qualities of courageous leaders – like Hillary.

  402. dot, Beneful and other processed dog food are made with “4D” meat. Diseased, dying, dead or disabled. One site I visited that had lots of good info was http://www.dogfoodproject.com . The ingredients list scared the bejeebus out of me. I may eat those things, but I shouldn’t feed them to my dog. Well, unless he really, really begs for part of my Peeps. 🙂

  403. Wow…..I just realized something.

    I have been wondering where this guy came from…..how could he possibly organize all those states so well in 1 year’s time? Where did all that money come from? Why so many big time endorsements?

    Then it dawned on me….this is another epic battle between the Clintons and the old guard in the democratic party that never liked them. They wanted to stop Hillary in the worst way and they picked the picked the perfect puppet to do so. Why is he “perfect?”

    1. he is black. The Clintons have historically won at least partially on the strength of the AA vote. In order to beat them, they had to syphon off those votes.
    2. he is young so could appeal to
    3. relatively unknown and untested…no real voting record to attack
    4. relatively new to washington so could wear “outsider” mantel
    5. he is a good speaker

    This would be laughable if it wasn’t so tragic. All those Obama supporters who think they are backing someone who is going to change washington….hah – He is the annointed one of the Washington insiders. HAH!!!!

    I really think this analysis is sound. Please, if you agree post something similar every possible place you can. It might get some people thingking.

  404. dt,
    You’re right. The democrats just don’t get it. There’s a reason you’ve lost 7/10 presidential elections.

  405. Idunn..wth is he talking about now? Is there a whole article for that?

    I tell you he is making huge BLUNDERS now and Hillary needs to have these front and center, as well as her surrogates and start pounding him.

    Did he not yesterday say he voted against the war? Honest to you all..my brother cannot be convinced he did not vote against the war…he has heard this till it’s sunk in..I can’t get him to go the the websites to get info. His wife and daughters are all HRC..he says he is for Hillary but he goes on and on fanatical about babmi.

    He is the one who mentioned to me about men voting against Hillary…Loyal Order of the Masons

  406. let’s tell our husbands, spouses and significant others !!!!!!! SKIP THE FLOWERS AND MAKE A DONATION TO HILLARY!!!

  407. Fran Says:

    February 12th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
    Thanks, everyone :). Sorry about the typos–think I left a word or two out. Really not feeling good today
    ****
    Fran, take care of yourself and feel better. Remember, no tv 🙂

  408. “no one came out to vote but she flew down there to claim victory over nothing.”

    –When his side says things like this, it’s nonsensical and foolish, in my opinion. He got votes in Florida too. He and his crowd are also insulting his SUPPORTERS when he claims the Florida election means nothing. Do they expect those primary voters for him to also vote for him in the general when he’s declared they don’t count?

    Though I’ve tried to downplay his caucus wins especially, obviously some of the people in those places voted for Clinton too. All those votes should count. BUT-but, but, but, my beef is with how MUCH they count (especially given the admitted fake votes for Obama from republicans). The media and the Obama crowd are overinflating that worth compared to where she’s won and how much she’s won there. A gazillion people have discussed this, have analyzed the states and the patterns of those wins, what needs to be won in the primaries and how that likely translates into a GW win, etc.

  409. albenda…GREAT IDEA. Thursday is the day. I know hubby has a few bucks set aside for box of chocolates for me. He donated today as well…we will both starve and I don’t need the chocolates.

  410. Ann,
    Entirely right. Now check this out.

    Last night Willie Brown was on Charlie Rose. He spoke of how Ted Sorenson (JFK’s speechwriter) is writing most of Obama’s stuff to blend JFK’s oratory with RFK’s folksier appeal.Then, Obama adds in some touches of MLK for what they view as an unbeatable combination.

    Except for the record & specifics, that is.

  411. B Merryfield,
    RezkoWatch is really awesome – be it greenish or grayish. Your reporting the last week has been outstanding! I’m finally beginning to think that everything will be unearthed eventually. Big Media clearly will continue to display the same sloppy attitude until it’s either too late or it doesn’t matter anymore. However, RezkoWatch and Big Pink are immensely useful nonetheless. Although Big Media isn’t paying attention – our superdelegates are… They don’t want to risk giving the nomination to someone who will be crushed in November. In this case the truth shall set us free.

    If anyone hasn’t visited yet:
    http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/

    Btw, I donated every cent I had left earlier today, so now Hillary has better be 44. 🙂

  412. Blue Dem,

    Yes…..we need to post this point everywhere. Email it to pundits. Make them feel like the sheep they are. They will HATE that. Put it on every Obama log, every forum on politico. It will start to sink in.

  413. How many people actually remember JFK and RFK. MLK’s speeches are played all the time, so those people have heard.

    But when was the last time anyone heard even JFK”s inaugural address?

    I remember all three of them, and this empty suit doesn’t remind me of them at all.

  414. [b]Except for the record & specifics, that is.[/b]

    absolutely.

    nothing about this man is real. He is stealing from 3 real men to make his fakery.

  415. lol, Blue Democrat.

    BTW, that Taylor Marsh post is great. I agree Obama’s vulnerability is that he’s a blank slate the Repubs will be eager to rip to shreds.

  416. I know we are all stretched on resources, but Ben Graber who is opposing Congressman Robert Wexler in the Florida congressional primary could use some support as well. Wexler is the only elected Florida Democrat who is supporting Obama thus he is supporting disenfranchising the voters of FL by not having the FL delegation seated. Ben Graber has endorsed Hillary and we need to send a message to those opposing the seating of FL and MI delegates at the convention.
    Every little bit helps.

    http://www.graberforcongress.com/

  417. To OkieATt:

    How about in honor of Valentine’s day, we donate $14.44 for a rose for Hillary:
    get it the $14 for Valentine’s day Feb 14 and .44 for Hillary will be our 44th president.
    We should do this on the night of Wisconsin 2/19th .

  418. I think if Obama were losing we would know by now because he would be down playing expectations. But, coming in close would be good.

  419. I’ll DKOS a diary Ann,

    Y’all get over there and help out. I’m going to try to find that C. Rose int….

  420. DemAC, thanks. 8)

    Actually, there are some Big Media types lurking about. I emailed back and forth with a prominent AP reporter yesterday and I know that at least two Chicago newspaper reporters are checking in on a regular basis. Today I had that email from a big blogger. So, they ARE out there. Also, at least two Chicago bloggers are citing and linking to my original posts. Word is spreading. Yesterday was my biggest day — almost 1,000 hits.

  421. somebody please capture this, I can’t do it here.

    Go to YouTube and enter:

    Charlie Rose – Willie Brown

  422. B Merryfield,

    You are a true Hillary warrior for getting the message out and doing the media’s footwork for them.

  423. It seems like everyone who attends BO’s rallies come away totally hooked on him. Maybe he is playing subliminal messages. Why else would everyone be going overboard. I have heard him talk and he does absolutely nothing for me. There must be something going on. I don’t remember people going this crazy over Kennedy or Clinton.

  424. YES, PLEASE DONATE AS I HAVE ALSO DONE, BUT ALSO NEW YORKERS HILLARY IS HAVING A FUNDRAISER ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, FEBRUARY 20TH AT 7PM AT HUNTER COLLEGE. TICKETS RANGE FROM $50 – $250. CALL 212-213-3717 AND PURCHASE YOUR TICKET TO THIS EVENT!!!!

  425. It looks like Wexler is going to be the first in my “little black payback book”. I’m in for a small donation.

    Maybe someone could do a blog for Mr. Graber and help him get more donations from Floridians who come here or who are elsewhere on the web and see that he upholds their votes.

    Word needs out that Wexler wants to cut the hands of those who feed him.

    We can take names and kick them out of office for their arrogance.

  426. Idunn — VA doesn’t register by party either. Today’s voting is open. MD’s primary is closed — last chance to change voter registration was 1/22.

  427. Thanks, JanH. It’s also been a bonus since I set up the Tips link. One of today’s posts was inspired by a conversation I had online. All thinkers invited to share, even if the thoughts don’t seem to make a lot of sense. After mulling them over, they often do.

  428. dot: 126 of those delegates will be chosen at the district level, but differently than in other states where they’ve been allocated based on Congressional district: they’ll be chosen based on totals in 31 state senate districts by caucuses in more than 18,000 precincts. The remaining 67 pledged delegates will be chosen by statewide primary vote.

    So the Texas primary gives only a delegate catch of 67 delegates, less than, say, Minnesota.
    On the same date, in the evening, precinct caucuses will be held across the state and to participate one has to have voted in the primary earlier in the day. That is where the big prize of 126 delegates will be chosen.

    ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=514

  429. B Merryfield,
    That’s just excellent. Apparently they recognize and appreciate quality reporting when they see it. KUDOS!!!

  430. I think it would be useful to research past democratic nominees’ roads to the nomination. I think a lot of us on the board are young (including myself) and use the 2000 and 2004 cycles when the nominees were chosen early as our point of reference. But I’ll bet that’s the exception rather than the rule. Hillary talks about Bill in 92 finishing as low as 3rd in some places and losing many contests.

  431. Idunn I’ll bet the first taker $10 that she wins BOTH Va. and MD. tonight.

    I’ll take that bet, but I’ll ask you to donate my winnings to Hillary’s campaign.

  432. Just musing with some friends last night about whether anyone will right about the goings on in this election when it’s all said and done…a complete expose maybe.

    How will this go down in the history books?

  433. I’ll take that bet, but I’ll ask you to donate my winnings to Hillary’s campaign.

    Okay, and if I win you donate. 🙂

  434. “Hillary talks about Bill in 92 finishing as low as 3rd in some places and losing many contests.”

    1992 was agony. He wasn’t the clear nominee until June, after getting trashed unmercifully by the media through the whole first half of the year. And he was third in *national* polls at about that time, after Bush and Perot.

  435. LawSchoolDem..still don’t get it LOL. Will it be the shouting, shoving, grudge match like the other caucus deals? Is this normally how Texas does this. I’m afraid that most Hillary voters would not go caucus because the behavior of the thugs of Obama is wellknown. Or do I totally not get it?

  436. Can you save a copy?

    Not sure I follow. I can save it to favorites and pull it up whenever I want. But my computer won’t handle more than that, I’m afraid.

  437. dot: to be honest, as a native Texan, a lot of us are confused. I am hoping the MSM does a better job explaining the situation to the residents of Texas. We have apparently always done it this way, but it has never mattered as much as it does this year. I’m not sure how it will play itself out, but I will vote absentee and then travel back to my home town to attend the caucus and make sure that my county is a Clinton County. The good news, the majority of votes come from primary voting and not caucuses.

    Also, for all the Texans on here, Hillary ads should have started their rotation in Texas forty-five minutes ago:

    After today, the Clinton campaign will have five television ads running in the three states of Ohio, Wisconsin and Texas. “Falling Through” has started running in Ohio and “Obligation” has started running in Wisconsin today.

    It appears as though the Clinton television ad blitz is more centered on Texas, however. In addition to the Spanish ad Nuestra Amiga, which debuted for Feb. 5 states, the Clinton campaign has three English ads running in the state.

    “Lifetime,” “Obligation,” and “Dignity” (the one with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Cesar L. Chavez — Cesar Chavez’s grandson) will begin airing in the state at 3 p.m. today local time. All markets except San Antonio will be running “Obligation” and “Lifetime” 50-50. For now, San Antonio will remain as “Dignity” 60% and “Lifetime” 40%.

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/12/658924.aspx

  438. Oh, wow. I took Tib’s idea for another money bomb and the idea of Susan B. Anthony and did some checking. Guess who’s 188th birthday is Friday? Yep. Susan B. Anthony.

    Susan B. Anthony for those who don’t know was a leader for women’s suffrage and took the fight to the highest levels of government. without her, women would have never gotten the right to vote. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_B._Anthony

    Let’s do the money bomb again on the 15th and this time get it circulated thru NOW and Emily’s List in honor of Susan B. Anthony.

    Any ideas for names? I need a name to set up a site.

    And as for the veteran idea. Someone passed me info on the Wounded Warrior Project. I have a call in to their HQ for more on their financials, etc.. They do lots of stuff and spend 77% of every dollar on actual projects and not admin overhead. Will some of you take a look and let me know what you think? Also, give me an idea of how we can go MASSIVE with it. You know, different blogs to go thru, maybe a reporter in a local area might give us a line or two. http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/

  439. eww. it sounds like Hillary’s campaign is suffering the same unmerciful treatment. So she knows exactly how to handle this and that is why she is so strong. She also knows the outcome regarding Bill.

  440. Hello everyone…first Hillary was fantastic last night at the ABC interview…starting with the visuals, she looked beautiful…dressed in blue with the blue hue background was perfect…she exuded once again a commanding presence and total confidence…you could easily imagine her in Presidential press conferences taking questions and answering them thoroughly and then with that glaze that she has, proceeding on to the next (I almost can hear her saying “Next question”)

    just as an aside of humor…don’t know if any of you caught the bit Jon Stewart did of Hillary and, I think her called it her ‘glare’ from the debate where Obama threw the first jab about Walmart…and I am sure you all remember that she stood there and did glare back at him (you know she was just waiting to strike back) anyway Jon Stewart inserted sort of a red laser beam coming out of her eyes reaching across the room on to Obama…it was really funny…but I bring it up because she does have so much power that comes out of her eyes…you can see her thinking and we have all said it, but it bears saying again…she amazes me at how quick she is with her response…you just know these journalists are loosing sleep trying to think of ways to knock her off and rattle her and boom…she answers and puts the question to bed and turns to the journalist for the next question…she is frankly, one in a million…and she is a commander in chief personified…

    Fran…your comments are so on target…part of the issue is that as we know the MSM in Washington/NY hate the Clintons…so of course they have all banded together to try to convince the public to hate them too…what surprises me is how obvious they all have become and evidently do not care about the concept of journalistic objectivity and have no shame at all…what really is unforgivable to me is that Obama has exploited this in every way possible…when it first began I thought surely he would stand up for Hillary but silly me…no, he reiterates and uses every slight of her to his advantage and for me, the straw that broke the camel’s back, was when Obama took it to the extreme of using every single negative Republican talking point he could find to attack Hillary…so now after his supporters hear him making those kind of attacks on Hillary, they begin to continue the attacks on her…and on a fellow Democrat, I might add so as to weaken the possible democratic candidate in the general…that did it…that was the dealbreaker for me…

    Dot 48…I agree with your comments above about Patti being at every event and on stage with Hillary…in fact, I hope they will use Patti to speak out and outreach and go to the latino community and speak to them in Spanish, etc…make it high profile for all to see …put Patti in an ad or on utube…have her speak spanish with the college kids…the thing I noticed about Patti when I saw her on TV was that she was very nice and kind of soft spoken (I don’t know her so I could be wrong) Hill needs toughies on TV…but in outreach we need our kind and gentler people to communicate…

    1950 Dem…thanks for those kinds words above many comments ago…

    ok…I am off to make my donation and will be back…I am feeling our second wind starting to swirl…it may not be visible tonight…but you know how the winds are they come out from nowhere…and we are rustling…hang in there and be strong…we can do this…

  441. San Antonio it should be noted is a media market that transcends just the metropolitan area. It reaches down into South Texas where Hispanic support for Hillary is strong. Both ads that are running on a higher rotation pattern in San Antonio are well positioned to remind Hispanic voters about why they have always been Clinton supporters.

  442. I can hardly see thru my tears…Many of the old timers here may remember I get fresh milk, cream, eggs, (vegetables in season) and a chicken each week from my Amish friends.

    Wanting to donate again today, I sent word that I would rather have an extra bag of eggs and no chicken, no cream for these 2 weeks to save some money.

    Well, Sarah just brought my food, and there was no chicken, no cream…but, there was a medium beef tongue…extra from the monthly slaughter and she said she can’t use it…so I should put it to use, no charge.

    Well, that’s a fib, and we all knew it, the Amish use EVERY bit of their food supply but she insisted and then she and 2 of her daughters wanted to hear more about Hillary.

    Most Amish are apolitical, but all three of them are just so absorbed in my fight for HRC. It filled my heart. And my pledge this morning won’t bounce.

  443. BTW WWP (WoundedWarriorProject), has been working on the traumatic brain injury stuff, too. I wonder if they worked with Hillary’s DC office in writing that legislation? 😀 If so, they be perfect for the vet project. (Oh and thanks to the anonymous person who sent me that idea!)

  444. Blue Dem

    Charlie usually gets his interviews up w/in 24-36 hours. He has his own site now, is not on PBS’ site anymore. just go to Charlie Rose.

    It’s pretty east to use the search function..W. Brown’s name will do it.

  445. Emjay, I’m moved by your story of Sarah and her daughters. Just reading that and all of the wonderful posts at hc.com, makes me realize how important this battle is to so many. I’m actually starting to tear up a bit.
    Thanks you for your sacrifice, and thank you for sharing your passion with your friends.

    Idunn, folks are forgetting the new rules: we must use 👿 in place of any word reference to he who must not be names.

    For those who do not know how- type: : evil : without the spaces.

    Using that shorthand may save us an extra exorcism or two. It also keeps us from being googled.

  446. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter,
    That was a fascinating article. I usually don’t like and don’t care about the inside baseball stuff, but that was good & informative.

  447. I’ve been 1000% Clintonista since 1992 and they are brilliant. But their campaign is only 99.44/100ths perfect, not 100% perfect. Sometimes a little feedback from people on the ground is needed.

    For example — I know I’ve been harping on this but it would have made a difference in my area — offering a meet and carpool to the caucus would have got us at least one more delegate in our precinct. I think it’s very good to share such specific, from the ground problems and solutions.

  448. See, y’all. Do it like Idunn. She’s got spirit, Yes! She does! She’s got spirit! How about you?!? :mrgreen:

    The votes tonight will probably not go our way. No matter. We will still be in the delegate hunt. But not only that, we will still make history.

  449. dot48, here in San Antonio, we have some STRONG Latina women to go caucus, and they are not afraid of any Bambi bullies – they will get up in their FACE! I pity the koolaid drinker that tries to intimidate one of these women or anyone in their group. They might find their ass on the floor shortly thereafter.

    🙂

  450. Hillary Clinton says NO to Vogue, YES to US Weekly.
    Written by: Yuli
    02/12/2008 12:25 AM

    Hillary Clinton says NO to Vog…
    We might not see Hillary Clinton on the next Vogue cover, but she will be definitely getting her own spread at Us Weekly, on newsstands February 18th.

    While you probably wonder about Mrs. Clinton decisions, you must admit a woman has sense of self humor, and here is why:

    The new US Weekly issue will feature Mrs. Clinton’s own picks of her all-time worst outfits accompanied by US Weekly-worthy self-criticism.

    Mrs. Clinton pulled few punches against herself in the four-page spread, disowning outfits like the high-waisted striped pants from her college days (“It’s not my fault,” her comment read. “It was the ’60s.”) and a long, shaggy, violently multicolored coat (“I’m a big believer in recycling — even carpets!”). The unflinching portfolio also included pictures of Mrs. Clinton in baggy shorts, a polka-dot dress and a Christmas sweater that would make Bridget Jones blanch.

    Again, I would personally pick Vogue, but I bow to her courage to do US Weekly.
    http://www.nowpublic.com/world/hillary-clinton-says-no-vogue-yes-us-weekly

  451. I can’t imagine that this type of caucus bullying was what the party had in mind when they thought up this idea. Then again maybe they did…survival of the fittest…er…biggest bully.

  452. Carby made yet another excellent point above:
    Carby made yet another excellent point above:

    “Let the media show him at his “best” light. The spolight need to be shown.”

    — She’s right; put him under well-lit scrutiny so people can see what he really is. I think this may be happening already. Too much attention can actually wind up being a bad thing, depending on the individual getting the attention.

    Sometimes it seems like the more Obama’s in the spotlight, the more people are noticing his flaws. That may be why some of his supporters have started making the cult connection–at least one article has come out about that. Spotlights draw out even more bad behavior from narcissists especially–they’re in their narcissistic element then. So they screw up more.

  453. Breaking: Clinton Firewall rock solid in Ohio
    by Jr1886, Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:06:56 PM EST

    The first Survey USA poll out of Ohio show Hillary leading Obama by 17%. Clinton leads among women by a wide margin by 29 points and tied Obama among men. It’s still early to know how the race is going to go but right now it seems Hillary has the clear advantage.

    Ps. With Hillary playing the Giuliani strategy, we’ll see if she can hold on to her firewall.
    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollRepo rt.aspx?g=d557457d-00cb-4628-9549-16029e 76b808

  454. i subscribe to the Finanical Times daily newspaper not b/c I paid for it but b/c my sister gave it to me for Christmas.

    Something that I’ve noticed is that Obama quotes it a lot or sometimes doesn’t even at least quote it….and show respect to it.

    Anyway, this bothers me lately b/c I’m pretty sure FT is on the Obamalama bandwagon. So, Obama has to show that he’s well-read in economic stuff, so he jsut reads it daily as if cramming for a test. not much of a test, huh? no one’s asking him hard economic questions.

    Since the economy is important these days, i’m glad he’s reading about it, but just reading about it won’t get you there. you need to know what you’re reading first.

  455. H4T- 👿 . Use it. 🙂 He is the anti-christ.

    Here’s an election day ditty

    If you hate 👿 and you know it, clap your hands (clap clap)
    If you hate 👿 and you know it, clap your hands (clap clap)
    If you hate 👿 and you know it, then your face will surely show it
    If you hate 👿 and you know it, clap your hands. (clap clap)

    If you hate 👿 and you know it, stomp your feet (stomp stomp)
    If you hate 👿 and you know it, stomp your feet (stomp stomp)
    If you hate 👿 and you know it, then your face will surely show it
    If you hate 👿 and you know it, stomp your feet. (stomp stomp)

    If you love Hillary and you know it, shout “Hillary!” (hill-a-ry!)
    If you love Hillary and you know it, shout “Hillary!” (hill-a-ry!)
    If you love Hillary and you know it, then your face will surely show it
    If you love Hillary and you know it, shout “Hillary!” (hill-a-ry!)

    If you hate 👿 and you know it, do all three (clap-clap, stomp-stomp, hill-a-ry!)
    If you love Hillary and you know it, do all three (clap-clap, stomp-stomp, hill-a-ry!)
    If you love Hillary and you know it, then your face will surely show it
    If you love Hillary and you know it, do all three. (clap-clap, stomp-stomp, hill-a-ry!)

  456. What, no “atta-girl?” Doesn’t everybody get a shout-out from y’all when supporting Hillary? Good luck – keep up the great work, B. Merry. Bye, now.
    PS – that Willie Brown interview made me want to hurl.

  457. European Says: I am a regular visitor on this site as I am a big Hillary Clinton supporter, though from Europe I cant help you a lot,

    Welcome, Eurpoean! And you can help a lot!Can you post quotes from European papers and websites that support HIllary? Some ignorant people in the US think she is disliked over there, or worldwide.

  458. I thought Gloria Estefan was, and I think she did help elect Bush, so I think she still is, but wouldn’t it be nice if she switched for HRC. Cuban Vote in the general. But anyways….news?

    Love the John Glenn endorsement. Also, the story posted a few posts up about the Ohio Firewall we have and we do have the same in Texas. Viva Hilaria!!