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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Let The Sunshine In

[Send some Sunshiny love to the Great Congresswoman Maxine Waters from the Great State of California for her Great Endorsement of Hillary today. (323) 757-8900 and (310) 642-4610 Thank the Congresswoman's great and friendly staff too.]

* * *

Barack Obama wants to disenfranchise Florida voters. Obama calls the votes of millions in the Sunshine state a “beauty contest”. That’s an ugly remark. Florida Democrats were disenfranchised in 2000 and the entire nation and world suffered. Florida Democrats Will Demand To Be Heard. The lessons of 2000 will not be forgotten.

* * *

Having followed all the foolish directives from the Democratic National Committee, Hillary tonight will be the first in Florida after the DNC blockade is lifted.

Hillary Clinton plans to end a five-month Democratic campaign boycott of Florida tonight by hosting a public rally in Davie to thank her supporters and prepare for the general election.

The doors will open to the Signature Grand Ballroom at 7 p.m., just when voting ends for the state’s presidential primaries. The event is set to begin at 8 p.m. at 6900 State Road 84.

The rally will draw elected officials and party leaders as well as grass-roots activists.

“Sen. Clinton will come to Florida the first minute she can,” said U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Weston, a Clinton supporter. “She will come as soon as she has an opportunity to show Floridians how important we are and our issues are.”

Florida Sen. Bill Nelson plans to endorse Clinton’s campaign while introducing her at the event.

“For too many years, too many Americans have been invisible to their own government. In this primary, some even tried to silence our state,” Nelson said in prepared remarks released to The Associated Press. “Hillary Clinton will never let that happen.” [snip]

Democratic candidate Barack Obama has accused Clinton of violating that pledge by planning large fund-raisers. Clinton’s camp accused him of breaking the pledge by running television ads in Florida on cable news network MSNBC.

The rally tonight does not violate the pledge because it comes after the polls close, said Mo Elleithee, a Clinton campaign spokesman.

Exit polls will start to be released at 5:00 p.m. (ET)

Florida election results HERE (other links too).

* * *

Today’s earlier post noted Obama’s nasty snubs of Hillary and Florida, and 15 Million Americans on healthcare. We posted one of several photographs showing Obama’s latest nasty snub.

Readers of Big Pink knew long ago of Obama’s nasty anti-Hillary demeanor.

Jut Jaw

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1,067 comments to Let The Sunshine In

  • skmf12

    WOW, A PICTURE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS…

  • TheRealist

    Florida Exit Polls: From The Naples Daily News (state results expected at 5PM et–vote Mitt!)
    National Review ^ | 01/29 03:33 PM | Jim Geraghty

    Posted on 01/29/2008 1:24:48 PM PST by propol

    For Those Seeking The Usual Leaks…

    I’m told not to expect any word of exit polls until around 5 p.m. …

    UPDATE: For extremely localized results, the Naples Daily News is publishing its exit poll results as they get them. Their numbers so far:

    Republican presidential primary

    Mitt Romney – 107

    John McCain – 66

    Rudy Giuliani – 32

    Mike Huckabee – 15

    Fred Thompson – 3

    Ron Paul – 2

    Democratic presidential primary

    Hillary Clinton – 48

    John Edwards – 15

    Barack Obama – 15

    Joe Biden – 2

    01/29 03:33 PM

  • mj

    Ok, so someone posted some exit polls, but I do not get them. Were they delegates or vote percent?

  • Amen to that skmf12.

    If dem dem pops up here, I have sent three emails since this morning and have received no response. Sorry. Time to watch the teevee.

  • TPS

    whoopi on Obama’s snub on VIEW:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlzD9l1N5kk

    She takes him down.

  • HillaryforTexas

    mj that was vote percent in Naples only.

  • TheRealist

    someone?

  • hwc

    The exit poll demographics posted in the previous thread are pretty much in line with the demographics from the 2004 Florida primary. Maybe slightly higher Latino/Hispanic turnout (9% last time, more than 1 in 10 this time).

  • TheRealist

    Some highlights of preliminary data from exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks in the Florida presidential primary Tuesday:

    RISING IMPORTANCE FOR FALLING ECONOMY

    Given four choices, nearly half of Florida Republican primary voters said the economy is the most important issue facing the country. Terrorism, Iraq and immigration each were picked by fewer than two in 10. The economy also was the top issue out of three choices for voters in the Democratic primary, which none of the candidates contested because of questions over whether Florida’s Democratic delegates will be seated. The economy has been seen as increasingly important since the start of the 2008 presidential nomination season.

    AND HOW’S THE ECONOMY DOING?

    Republicans were more likely than Democrats to rate the national economy positively, though few in either party rated it excellent. A third of Republicans but fewer than one in 10 Democrats rated the economy good. Half of Democrats called it poor, compared to only about one in seven Republican primary voters.

    THE GRAYING OF THE PRIMARIES

    Both parties’ electorates were older than in any other presidential contest this year. A third or more in each primary were at least 65 years old. In earlier Democratic contests no more than a quarter were senior citizens, and on the Republican side only the Nevada caucuses came anywhere close to Florida in the proportion of older voters.

    MORE DEMOGRAPHIC TIDBITS …

    • Eight in 10 Republican primary voters were white and a little more than one in 10 were Hispanic — about half of whom were of Cuban heritage. There were few blacks on the GOP side. In the Democratic primary, two-thirds were white, about one in five were black and a little more than one in 10 were Hispanic.

    • About one in seven voters in each party’s primary described themselves as independents.

    • About three in 10 Republican voters called themselves moderates. Slightly more Democrats identified themselves as moderate.

    DECISIONS, DECISIONS

    There were fewer late-deciding voters in both parties in Florida than in most earlier contests.

    ___

    From partial samples of 970 Republican primary voters and 989 Democratic primary voters conducted by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International in 40 precincts across Florida on Tuesday. The samples include 235 Republican voters and 294 Democratic voters who voted early or absentee and were surveyed in the past week by telephone. Margin of sampling error plus or minus 4 percentage points for each primary.

  • TheRealist

    Seniors, economy voters and a higher than expected Hispanic turnout bodes well…

  • CJ

    I told ya whoppie would be all over it..lol

  • Just watching CNN’s little promo……”We Demand Truth”……CNN = Politics……”all sides”……LOL!!!!!

    CNN = Rev. Obama

  • GA4HILL

    Hey folks. I have been lurking for months…this is my first comment. Decatur, GA here. Gay man and Hillary supporter for two decades!!!!!!!
    I just called Gov. Richardson’s office to ask for his endorsement of Hillary. Female answered the phone, took my name and comment. She sounded really tired and not at all friendly.

  • Caroline

    Ok that picture is just so sad. But it is funny you have to admit. He’s such a prick. Ewwww….

  • HillaryforTexas

    I love Whoopie!

  • TheRealist

    Groovy video Admin…cough, cough, like, far out!

  • mj

    GA4HILL, welcome. :)

  • GA4HILL

    Thanks MJ. Very happy to be here (officially)

  • Caroline

    GA4Hill….welcome to this great site.

  • CJ

    hillary needs maxine and whoopie joy to kick butts lol..is it .3 million on the view watches that show..

  • Ugh….the pigs have landed, wings clipped, and sent squealing home for Rev. Obama’s pork dinner.

  • GA4HILL

    I am a massage therapist in private practice. I campaign for Hillary throughout every session LOL

  • mj

    What is Congresswoman’s Waters email again? I’d like to drop her a thank you.

  • TPS

    welcome GA4Hill, there are more and more of us who are just tired of the big media bias and nastiness and joining here.

  • mj

    GA4HILL, that’s great retail politics. ;)

  • GA4HILL

    Are you kidding me???? I emailed Chris Matthews tired butt two weeks ago. I told him that I am a nightly watcher, and that I will no longer be viewing Hardball. That should take his viewership down to single digits.

  • admin

    Come on Realist, give us a break here on the groovy video. :)

    You should see what the other choices were – a video with floating syringes (the “sunshine” being a potent hallucinogenic).

    We want to let the Sunshine State in.

  • GA4HILL

    I have convinced two Obama leaning voters to vote for Hillary just this week on my table. I have a very successful line I use.

  • limabeans

    Admin, I love you so much right now. Both for posting that song (which is seriously cheering me up) and for posting the picture of Sen. SnootyPants being a diiiiiiiiiiiiick!

  • mj

    GA4HILL, funny. But he already is in the single digits ’cause I quit him two months ago. LOL.

  • TPS

    Here is a piece on Inside Edition on Obama SNUB. Again very negative for him:

    youtube.com/watch?v=QXWsMZLRsT8

    Once it goes to popular media everyone will know.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    Express your views on the disenfranchisement of Floridian voters on MSNBC’s field notes:
    fieldnotes.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/29/617700.aspx?p=0

  • GA4HILL

    LOL…His Hillary obsession is freaky. Always wondering why she won’t come on his show. She gets more viewrs at a neighborhood diner

  • hwc

    I’m on strike at both CNN and MSNBC. I’m a FoxNews guy these days. They hate Democrats, but at least they hate them all equally.

  • dot48

    welcome, ga4hill…I live in a place called Decatur as well. Decatur,Tn

  • TPS

    GA4HILL, I have been doing a one-man boycott of MSNBC, TPM, DailyKooks, AriannaPOst

  • GA4HILL

    Awesome dot48

  • GA4HILL

    Decatur, GA is (was) Cynthis McKinney’s district

  • CJ

    welcome all the new people too..ga4hill welcome…
    and all the new woman who are reading this site come on board…men too…

    I would never go on date with BO if he was single,he snubs women…bad for the Country…I dont see alott of men that do that,I think infact he is the first one that i know of…would do that to a woman…lot of divorced women who are fiends with there x’s expecially after having children.get along with out making that kinda of face…very disrespectfull of Barack o.b…

  • hwc

    On the snub:

    Isn’t it ironic that Mr. Kumbaya is getting taken down because he can’t hide his inner asshole self?

  • mj

    Ah, CJ, he’s not nearly the first man to snub a woman. Are you kidding?

  • GA4HILL

    I tell my clients the simple truth (no negativity)…

    Sen. Obama may be a good man. However, so is Jimmy Carter. Jimmy was sent to Washington without the political network to be successful. While his intentions were good, he was not setup for success. Therefore, we ended up with 12 years of republicans. Obama is simply not ready to make change.

  • clintondem99

    Despite Kennedy Endorsement, Obama Faces Uphill Fight In Mass:

    There is an article by Sam Stein on Fluff(Huff) post. It would be hilarious if BO looses in MA after kerry and Teddy campaign all over the country for him.

    With roughly a week to go before Massachusetts’ voters cast their ballots in the February 5th primary, Obama is trailing his chief opponent, Sen. Hillary Clinton, by a substantial margin. A recent Survey USA poll had the New York Democrat beating Obama in Massachusetts by a nearly 3-to-1 edge: 59 percent to 22 percent.

    Caroline kennedy thinks I should listen to her childern and vote for BO ????

  • TPS

    hwc, I agree with you. I believe in karma, It catches up to you.

  • mj

    GA4HILL, very good analysis.

  • mj

    clintondem99, and the Governor.

  • hwc, he is just “misunderstood”.

  • TheRealist

    Admin-

    Just a little humor…

    I liked it, and as one of those who was there (Not that I actually remember, mind you) the 60’s, I couldn’t help but fall back into the vernacular.

    PS the coughing wasn’t about embarrassment…:)

  • fashionista

    You guys are saving me from cable news withdrawal. I haven’t been able to stomach watching MSNBC and CNN for the past couple of days, and for a news junkie such as myself, that has been very difficult indeed.

    I can’t believe how vicious some Obama supporters are towards Hillary. As a thirtysomething year-old single woman, it personally offends me how they are getting away with it via MSM’s coverage. A few hours ago, KGO radio Ronn Owens show in San Francisco had this personality expert on for an hour saying awful stuff about Hillary having the worst personality out of all the candidates, Rep and Dem. He said that Hillary’s “cackle” was fake and that she’s basically unlikable. I was so angry that I had to pull over into a nearby grocery store’s parking lot, I didn’t believe my ears. Then the “expert” went on to say that Obama is the most charismatic politician he’s ever come across. I’m glad I didn’t eat breakfast ’cause I would’ve puked inside my car.

    I’ve never given to campaigns before, but I’m going to go over to Hillary’s campaign website to make a substantial donation. I was going to treat myself by buying this Marc Jacobs handbag I’d had my eyes on. Instead I’ve decided to donate that money to the Clinton campaign. So keep the sexism coming boys, I’m not rich but I have a good amount of disposable income to donate AND I vote!

  • GA4HILL

    and…do you really think that Reid and Pelosi (with decades of Washington experience) are going to pass the agenda of a congressional novice? Bush has been a puppet for 7 years…Obama would be way in over his head.

  • CJ

    i think that is the first one i know of ,……mj…thats true…

  • mj

    Well, CJ, you haven’t been around a long time then. ;)

  • HillaryforTexas

    Welcome, GA4Hill! Admin, killer video. :-)

  • GA4HILL

    Thanks HillaryforTexas

  • mj

    You are the best, fashionista! Way to sacrafice for the common good! We all appreciate it!

  • dot48

    at this time next Tuesday….we will be awaiting the Tsunami Tusday results….

    Godspeed Hillary, wind at your back and spring in your stride. You are well on your way to Jan 09 inaugeration.

  • GA4HILL

    I enjoy telling friends and clients the simple truth.

    Hillary Clinton is stronger than Margaret Thatcher ever thought about being. Hillary has had everything (including the kitchen sink thrown at her). She will be one hell of a strong preident.

  • DemHawk

    fashionista, don’t worry. there is a cable network that is very fair to Hillary. And that network is Fox. They have defended her quite a bit, especially with Bill C. An example:www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322780,00.html

  • admin

    We added Congresswoman Maxine Waters’ phone numbers to the front page.

  • HillaryforTexas

    GA4HILL, that is why my husband ended up liking her. He is a retired military officer, and has come to have the UTMOST respect for her. He knows leadership when he sees it, and says she has it.

  • Hillfan435 (formerly Informed in IL)

    Just donated to Hill again. And, folks, I’ve changed my name– don’t deserve it in such informed company. Thanks for being so much more positive, but informed and fair than anywhere else!
    Anyway, that photo captures the true BO. Bravo!

  • Kingsgrove

    Rep. Maxine Waters lays the SMACKDOWN on Noruh! [4:00]

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22808812#22900729

  • dot48

    fashionista, welcome aboard and thanks for your contribution to her campaign.

  • TPS

    Welcome Fashonista. Like you I am also a recent cable news refuge here.

  • CJ

    oh ive been around along time…but i guess i was brought up to respect :my grandma taught me that… and so was the people around me…if she was alive today she would be throwing books at that tv…and all the stuff that comes out of there mouths…

  • TPS

    admin, thanks for making the You Tube videos easily accessible.

  • mj

    CJ, that sort of treatment happens everyday.

  • Vanity4hillary

    Hey guys I have gotten two of my gay tranny friends to vote for Obama.They was going to vote for him til I gave them a break down bout this man from rezko to him no even having a real plan.He just keep saying change.And blk people thought changed just meant he was saying as in its time for change to have a blk man in the white house.I told them that is no reason to vote for some damn body.We got heated a lil bit but they listened to me.And i did my job
    im so proud of myself

  • clintondem99

    Please clarify;

    My understanding is any candidate with one vote majority at the convention could seat all florida delegates. It only needs a simple majority.

    Am I right?

  • Southern Born

    Grandmother, Jaz, did you see OUR senator hovering behind BO and him saying that the reason he turned away from Hillary at the SOTU speech last night is that he was responding to something OUR senator said and certainly not because….

    OUR senator has been sticking to BO like super glue the past two days.

  • mj

    Southern Born, it’s pathetic. She has this look in her eyes like the highschool mathlete hanging around the captain of the football team, who dissed the student body president(Hill).

  • The more this snub is being played in the press, the more it is looking like a very smart moveon Hillary’s part not to do any interviews last night. You know she would have been asked about it and she would have probably said she did not take it as a snub. By not commenting the media is running with it and Obama is now on the defensive. That backstabber McCaskill said on CNN it looks like someone is looking for a fight. Who does she think is looking for a fight? The Clinton camp has not commented and the glares Obama was giving Hillary last night are letting the whole world know who is looking for a fight OBAMA!!

  • mj

    She said it was “old” politics. WTF does that mean?

  • TPS

    rjk1957, that is very astute analysis.

  • fashionista

    Done. I just went on the website and donated a one time $1000 to Hillary. A quick question though, it asked for me to provide my employer and occupation so that they could keep track of any donors who donate over $200 in any campaign cycle. What does that mean for me? Are they going to contact my employer in any way in the future if I decide to make more contributions? Just asking, I’ve no skeletons in the closet or anything. BTW, I’m a Nurse Practitioner.

  • hawk

    Don’t watch msnbc if you are. John Kerry is going to be on……ugh. He is sooo rediculously boring and slow.

  • MJS

    Oh boy…History sucks.

    60% of my classroom is hardcore republican and the only dems I know in there are pro-obama.

    The class discussion the State of the Union went something along the lines of:

    -Bush is trying to unite everyone!
    -OMG, did you see nancy pelosi acting like a bitch?
    - Bush only focused so heavily on the war in Iraq to promote stability and national security.
    - I believe Bush will accomplish many things this year, regardless of the elections.
    - It’s right to terminate those 121 useless programs for $18 Billion.

    and I countered with:
    -well, if Bush just terminated his Oil company subsidies, that’s $50 Billion right there.
    - The economy can’t be resuscitated by tax breaks and rebates. The only way to help people is to fix the economy for the long term…like the price of oil, our dependence on foreign resources, loss of jobs, etc.
    - He said the samet hing about uniting the country in 2000. Look where that’s gotten us?

    And finally, we talked aobut experience in nominating/electing a person and the Repubs as well as the pro-bamas basically leapt at the comment.

    Stupid lunk-headed teens. I just know that there is a future-Bush in our class…i just kNOW IT.

  • mj

    fashionista, you can only donate $2300 in 6 months, total of 4600 a year, I think. They have to report contributions to the FEC. It’s just procedure.

  • mollyjrichards

    Hey yall, I am sittin here watching the pigs flyin around on tv. I see them as sort a morphed version of the flyin monkeys in the Wizard of Oz.

    All kiddin aside, we saw last night a mismatch between Bo’s talk and his action. He talks the vision and language of change from business as usual. He talks the talk of coming together, or uniying. But he can’t even have the decency to shake Senator Clinton’s hand. eventually more and more people will notice that he has all this grandiose talk of a unifier. but none of the actions. IF you cannot model the behavior you expect in others well….this is NOT what leadership looks like.

  • admin

    ClintonDem99 the simple answer is yes. But there is a credentials committee too and other complications. Simple answer is with a majority of votes things happen.

  • TheRealist

    He’ll have to answer about it during the debate, Tony REZKO-GATE too.
    It was supposed to be all hearts and flowers for Barry after the Teddy endorsement, but just like the arrogance that he flashed in the last debate, (”You’re likeable ENOUGH) his immaturity, hubris and ARROGANCE was again on display for a national audience. When BM decides to turn on him, they will fall on him like a ton of bricks.

  • hawk

    Where has John Edwards been? Plotting with obama and axelrod for the convention?

  • HillaryforTexas

    fashionista, they have to disclose what “sectors” all the large donations come from. So yours would go under “healthcare industry” and your employer if it is a big enough corporation, like HCA or something. I’m a nurse, so mine are under that as well. Personal info is not released, just the categories.

  • mollyjrichards

    This kind of egocentric individual almost always turns of people who’ve helped him in the past. I’d look for that to happen with BO. Indeed, it already has. I believe both Hill and Bill campaigned for him when he was running for the Senate.

  • Sherm Kader

    Minor point of interest: I heard Zogby on radio saying the votes already received before the polls opened set a new record for votes in both parties. He said there are long lines at the polls today, so this is going much higher.

    The point of all this, in my opinion, is this size vote has to get some attention in the media. They absolutely cannot ignore this election regardless of what they have been saying.

  • fashionista
    They do that for the FEC. If they see a lot of donations linked to the same employer, they may check just to make sure an employer is not presuring employees to donate or making donations in employees names to get around the limit.

  • TheRealist

    # mj Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    fashionista, you can only donate $2300 in 6 months, total of 4600 a year, I think. They have to report contributions to the FEC. It’s just procedure

    It’s 4600 TOTAL for the entire election cycle (Primaries and GE), meaning 2300 primary and 2300 GE money per household member. As a maxxed out contributor, I know…:)

  • clintondem99

    Southern born, may be they should bring back Bob Holden and beat the crap out of CM in the next election.

  • terrondt

    obama is a lowlife with no class. hillfans, it maybe a outlier but ras has hillary and obama tied with 40% in connecticut. i have to see a second poll to see confirm this.

  • mj

    TheRealist, thanks. Couldn’t quite remember. I’ve never given that much.

  • hawk

    Way outlier from the polls I have seen as of late.

  • clintondem99

    I profess I do not know much about Bob holden

  • mj

    Terron, I have not seen anything like that. Sounds like an outlier.

  • TheRealist

    terrondt-

    What’s the Hispanic population in CT? Don’t think that ras poll makes any sense.

  • dot48

    loved watching Norah Odookey get the smackdown!!!!!!!!

    delicious. we need more of this kind of straight talk in the media.

  • TheRealist

    mj-

    I was disappointed when I found out that it wasn’t 4600 per year, but for the ENTIRE ELECTION. I only wish I could give/do more.

  • hwc

    fashionista:

    They simply report your employer and your occupation on the FEC filings. It’s purely informational.

    You could put “nurse practicioner” and leave your employer blank if you felt like it. They have to ask. You don’t have to answer.

  • CJ

    edwards is in tenn,and mo,..shown him this morning when i woke up..lol..i switched real quick..

  • dot48

    well if I had the dough I’d fork it over in a new york minute.

  • Ronald

    ARROGANT.

    Thats all Im saying. The man is arrogant.

    Lets see- last time we had a uniter (not divider) elected… he was arrogant too! and where did that get us??

  • terrondt

    9.4 hispanics, 8.7 african-american in ct according to the almanac of american politics 2006

  • Caroline

    Poor Edwards. Even though he annoys me, the coverage needs to be fair so they need to cover him. No one will know he was in this race because of the MEDIA. The MEDIA just has too much influence on this election and it is just not right at all.

  • terrondt

    i agree therealist, i saw that poll also.

  • welcome new posters.. you’d be of great help..can someone post some exit polls?

  • Kingsgrove

    You’re absolutely right Caroline. But I won’t be shedding any tears, either, you know?…..

  • mollyjrichards

    Wish I had seen that dot48. What channel is that on? How come nobody mentions on tv that Obama campaigned in FL?

  • hawk he is in GA siphoning off hillary supporters.. wat an ass!

  • terrondt

    the exit polls that are trickling out are incomplete and confusing as hell. don’t believe them anyway.

  • OkieAtty

    Edwards is staying out of the line of fire….

    I LOVE the idea of Edwards as Attorney General. I think he’d be a class act there and would be the new RFK.

    I LOVE the idea of Precious as sewer maintenance. Why? ‘Cos that man brings everything down to gutter politics.

    BO= Audacity of Hubris

  • oh btw kingsgrove thanks for the video.. that was a good smackdown!~

  • fashionista

    Thanks for clarifying, everyone. It’s a sad state of affairs when Fox News is considered the watcheable news network. I think I will cautiously tread over there now to see some live news, first time in a few days.

  • mp

    Fashionista:

    they will not contact your employer; they like to know that you are employed and can afford to contribute your own money.

  • Kingsgrove

    Did anyone hear what Patti Solis Doyle had to say on Ed Shultz today?

  • yayyyyyyyyyyy veryone tune into msnbc… flipflopper john kerry will be on soon!!!

  • clintondem99

    mj, you are right. I remember the governor campaigned in NH where BO lost.

  • fashionista… most probably you will get 100% pro hillary coverage from this board :)

  • Has Wolf Blitzer been asleep all month? Just said that Democrats have voted in NEAR record numbers in the states that have voted so far. Last time I check the records have been shattered in every state so far. I take that back I am not sure about Michigan.

  • dot48

    molly..see kingsgrove 6:10 comment…link to video provided.

    I am very perturbed as well that nobody mentions that Obama has been running ads in Florida.

    I wish there is a way Hillary can highlight that tonight…no wait. Bill Nelson would be best one to do so….let American in on the news that indeed SOMEONE in the campaign broke the promise and now he calls their votes a “judging vote in a beauty contest”

  • mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz… i m already sleepy

  • TheRealist

    Exit polls won’t include early ballots, which number in the tens of thousands at least. I expect Hillary to win by approximately the aggregate numbers at RCP, between 15-25%, with broad and deep demographics that will establish the template for her sweeping victory on 2/5.

  • dot48

    any poll news…I am committed to staying away from the tv

  • JAS

    Connecticut:
    1/27/08
    Rasmussen 899LV
    HRC 40
    BHO 40

  • Hillfan435 (formerly Informed in IL)

    He has the SNUBACITY of DOPE.
    Keep up the wonderful work. I’m going home now. G’day, friends!

  • clintondem99

    You think they would totally ignore Hillary’s rally in Florida? I plan to attend Bill’s rally at SIU Edwardsville tomorrow.

  • jas.. the ct poll is crap.. i promise you

  • CJ

    I wish there is a way Hillary can highlight that tonight…no wait. Bill Nelson would be best one to do so….let American in on the news that indeed SOMEONE in the campaign broke the promise and now he calls their votes a “judging vote in a beauty contest”
    I agree^
    yep it needs to get out there people dont know whats going on…yes and let ben nelson do it..and watch bo’s mouth jaw drop lol///

  • OkieAtty

    Hey guys- the results will be live posted here:

    http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/

    Just cut and paste with NO www. It’s an http link.

  • hawk

    That Conn. poll is way off……..don’t stress.

  • dot48

    connecticut poll gotta be wrong.

  • TheRealist

    Hispanics not answering the phone?

    Crosstabs on the poll are hinky also.

  • CJ

    I wish there is a way Hillary can highlight that tonight…no wait. Bill Nelson would be best one to do so….let American in on the news that indeed SOMEONE in the campaign broke the promise and now he calls their votes a “judging vote in a beauty contest”

    I agree

    people dont know what going on lotts of dems voters
    and ben nelson let him do it…i wish i could see his bo’s mouth jaw drop..lol

  • Jaz

    I also think the poll is wrong…

  • dot48

    it took me a minute to figure out who the heck William Richardson III was….

  • mollyjrichards

    Kerry hittin hard at Hillary and giving BO a frew commercial on MSNBC.

  • mollyjrichards

    make that a free BO commercial

  • MJS

    Hillary needs to knock this speech outta the park. If she does, this may be the cascading set of momentum that we desire. It will outshadow Barack Obama’s South Carolina win by a mile.

    But Hillary must hit the right notes and sing the right chords to her people and let everyone know that she will not disenfranchise ANY voters, no matter if they have delegates or not.

  • Edwards going to come in 2nd for Florida? Any indications?

  • Editor’s note: Today the Daily News Staff and Marco Eagle Staff will be conducting exit polls throughout the day at area precincts. The results are based on voters willing to share how they voted. Vignettes from polling places follow:

    Republican presidential primary

    • Mitt Romney – 130

    • John McCain – 91

    • Rudy Giuliani – 49

    • Mike Huckabee – 24

    • Ron Paul – 5

    • Fred Thompson – 4

    Democratic presidential primary

    • Hillary Clinton – 75

    • Barack Obama – 27

    • John Edwards – 19

    • Joe Biden – 2

  • Jaz

    Screw MSNBC, why are we still watching that crap?

    Or… If you want to watch it, I suggest a letter writing campaign.

  • Wow, now *that* is a rout :)

  • anbritt

    the previous polls were pre sc what we need to see are polls post sc the latest ras from conn includes the sc bounce

  • anbritt

    i think they are going to be very tight now but i suspect the campaign already knows this and they know what they are doing

  • MJS

    Mitt Romney numbers looking good! I kinda do hope Romney eeks one out.

    Though he may be slick as a fish, I hear he was a pretty moderate governor of Mass.

  • hawk

    Wouldn’t that be awesome if it turned out to be like 65%-20%-15% or something like that. I would be happier than ever.

  • mj

    MJS, he sucked as a Governor. He is an empty suit who has no business running for president.

  • MJS

    i would have a BALL if Edwards swamped Obambi.

  • Hillfan435 (formerly Informed in IL)

    Just saw this from Capitol Fax (Rich Miller – Springfield-watcher and columnist for Daily Southtown)

    REZKO’S STINK A minor uproar ensued yesterday when Gov. Rod Blagojevich appeared to be excluded from a press conference held by five statewide constitutional officers to push Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. It didn’t go unnoticed that both Blagojevich and Obama have a “Rezko problem,” which only served to highlight a bad situation for Obama.

    As you know by now, Rezko is sitting in jail after his bond was temporarily revoked yesterday. The feds raided his house before dawn and hauled him downtown, where a judge didn’t buy his lawyer’s explanation that an Iraqi-born billionaire’s $3.5 million loan was completely innocent and wasn’t part of a scheme to flee the country.

    While it’s true that Obama and Blagojevich have been linked to specific allegations regarding favors done by and/or for Rezko, it’s also true that all but one of those statewides at yesterday’s press conference have their own campaign finance connections to the guy.

    According to a Sun-Times report last year, Attorney General Lisa Madigan’s campaign received $43,000 from Rezko. Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn got $32,000. Secretary of State Jesse White took over $23,000. And Comptroller Dan Hynes was the beneficiary of $22,500. Only Alexi Giannoulias appears to be Rezko-free – and that’s probably because the freshman came to the game so late.

    The lesson is that Rezko was simply everywhere. He gave to everybody who was anybody in Chicago politics. He even contributed almost $19,000 to Jim Edgar’s campaign fund and apparently raised quite a bit more. George Ryan got $500 from the man. Rev. Sen. James Meeks, a media darling, received $20,000.

    Unlike Obama and Blagojevich, there’s not a lot that links many of those other politicians to Rezko beyond mere campaign contributions and fundraising events. But his stink is everywhere. And as yesterday’s press conference and court action showed, there’s going to be no way to avoid his ugly shadow in the days leading up to Super Tuesday. The Senator might want to just avoid his home state altogether.

  • OkieAtty

    Precious shouldn’t have dogged the FL voters while the polls were open. When delegates are seated (and they will be), he could cost himself the nomination if it were close. What an arrogant putz.

  • I saw on the news this monring that an estimated 450,000 voters will have voted before the polls opened today with early voting and absentee ballots. Problems with optical scanners could cause the absentee ballot count to take up to 17 hours.

    Shouldn’t matter on the Democratic side, but Reps may have a long night ahead of them.

  • hawk

    Panhandle polls close in 3 minutes.

  • JAS

    gladiatorstail:
    I agree with you I have never been sold on Rasmussen I beleive Survey USA is correct.

  • MJS

    well, Romney was apparently very good with the economy in Mass and generated a lot of state funds through removing tax loopholes and increasing tax on gasoline.

    but either way. Hill ALL THE WAY

  • terrondt

    GO MITT!!!! LOL

  • hawk

    If edwards came in second I would laugh my ass off. Wow. But anyways, this is a great night for us. We win no matter what. I am excited.

  • anbritt

    those numbers don’t seem to add up…am i missing something..somebody explain

  • Jaz

    When do polls close?

  • forza mitt ehehehehehe

  • hawk

    Now for those in FLorida’s central time zone in the pan handle.

  • mj

    I doubt Edwards will come in second.

  • hawk

    Yay! Craig Crawford will be on.

  • Jaz

    Surprise surprise.. ABC isn’t bothering to put up the democratic results on its frontpage.

  • MJS

    An Edwards second would really make my day! :D

  • mj

    Does anyone know what the dem tournout was like?

  • MJS

    +, tonight is the death of Rudy FOOLiani’s campaigN! which, btw, has been THE worst campaign in history probably.

    SRSLY, Living in FLorida for a few months? What an idiot.

  • TheRealist

    Absentee ballots could push Hillary’s numbers up into the sixties. It would be very hard for BM to ignore that kind of dominance. Hillary finishing in the sixties tonight would make Admin look like, “The Amazing KRESKIN”,
    especially in light of the video of the 5th dimension in full psydellicality…

  • admin

    ABC Nightly News had terrific coverage of the “snub” moment. They explained the situation then followed with several sequential photos of the snub clearly showing Obama as the snubber.

    The icing on the cake was Hillary saying her hand is always stretched out in friendship. Really good coverage.

  • dot48

    sorry america but Barack Obama will never be the new Camelot Prince. yahoo headline….obama new camelot. Hillary is now the underdog

  • johnflint1985

    Guys this snub thing is all over the news CNN and MSNBC – they picked it up on it. Obama is explaining again. What a retarded candidate with no class whatsoever. :lol:

  • HillaryforTexas

    Those exit poll numbers have to be wrong at 6:52. It adds up to more than 100% on the Dem side?

  • I am loving this, CNN and Lou Dobbs can not stop speaking about the SNUB.. The pictures do not back up Obama and McCaskills’s excuse that she asked him a question and he turned towards her to answer. In the pictures they are facing towards each other , but not looking at each other and neither appears to be talking.

  • Ronald

    He is arrogant.

    This could really bring him down. He has started to believe the hype about him. Say what you will about Hillary, but when you listen to what she says, you realize she is humbled by her history making quest for the WH. It comes with maturity.

    arrogance comes with immaturity.

  • mj

    Please don’t use the word retarded in such a way.

  • dot48

    is it true that the kennedy woman is running nationwide ads with pictures of her dad and obama and campaigning for obama.

  • terrondt

    hillfans, we expected but big media is already trying to discount the florida vote. *ssholes.

  • MJS

    for those who think McCain will win…don’t bet on it.

    FLorida is a closed Primary

    :D

    Which also means Obama NEVER had a shot here.

  • hawk

    Oprah is going to help in Cali for obama……yuck.

  • hawk

    Yes on the ad with Caroline Kennedy

  • MJS

    Um, how about Oprah just SHUT HER TRAP? I hope Whoopi, Barbara Walters, and Chelsea will all go beat her to the punch and knock out any voice of hers.

  • Hillfan435 (formerly Informed in IL)

    Ronald, I agree. She is truly gracious.

  • hawk

    They are talking about Hillary “campaigning in FLorida” via telephone messages and an AFSCME mailer. She is not in control of afscme, first of all, and second of all, obama campaigned there with TV ADS. Ugh.

  • johnflint1985

    here is a perfect picture of this snub

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/29/obama-i-didnt-snub-clinton/

    mj

    I am sorry, got carried away a bit. But you know what I mean

  • Making calls to Oklahoma tonight for Hill….I encourage everyone to do this (call campaign headquarters if you are not on the list). In addition, I know Hill has deployed her “truth squad”, do they have a phone number? Can someone give me that number for my more belligerent folks tonight?

  • dot48

    well oprah is not listening to her viewers then. i knew it was a matter of time before she went back out. Hillary really, really needs to hold that lead in California. That is going to be the battleground state going into next Tuesday. This is going to be a real tsunami people.

  • dt

    Rasmussen is crap. the other day he had a 5 pt spread in CA or something, wasnt it ? When all the rest shows her at the minimum 12-15 pts ahead in CA. But trust the Obamabots to start jumping up and down looking at the CT poll. But anything goes, even an obvious outlier, to distract from the whacking in FL tonight !

  • Jaz

    Votes coming in:

    HC: 63%
    BO: 17%
    JE: 15%

  • Ooooh, JE please finish 2nd…

  • Caroline

    Come on JE.

  • TheRealist

    # dot48 Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    sorry america but Barack Obama will never be the new Camelot Prince. yahoo headline….obama new camelot. Hillary is now the underdog

    Excellent! We WANT to be seen as the underdog, even if we’re 20 points up in the polls. lol
    Let them prattle while we work. You have seen exactly what kind of a “sore winner”, Barry is; His two most arrogant moments coming on the heels of his only victories. Let HIM believe his own press clippings and sycophantic cult members, he’s likely to do something even uglier.

    Women are ALWAYS the underdog, sad to say, but people LOVE the underdog, just ask my GIANTS how much love they’re getting during SuperBowl week!

    When the demographics of tonight’s win are posted, it will be hard for us to get anyone to believe that Hillary is the underdog, but with BM on our side (as in totally against us) we may still be able to pull it off…:)

  • wasabigirl

    Results starting to come in at CNN:

    Clinton: 45%
    Obama: 25%
    Edwards: 25%

    Very early!

  • dot48

    anything to crown the next prince of camelot it seems. if by chance he becomes the nominee, say hello to another 8 years of Republican rule.

  • TheRealist

    If she can pull in the high 50’s prior to counting the absentees, we could have an historic night on our hands here…

  • dot48

    i hope she whips him tonight and in the future like a rented mule!!!!!!

  • 45 25 25 is very competitive.. are you telling me Obama really had that much bounce?

  • Come on Edwards finish in 2nd

  • MJS

    from msnbc website:

    Worried that Obama is ‘too soft’
    As for Clinton’s rival for the Democratic nomination, Teske said, “I’m worried Obama is a little too soft. He just seems a little young and smushy. I want smart and strong, someone who can sit down and make a decision and stick behind it.”

    Another Jacksonville Democrat with doubts about Obama was retiree and Marine Corps veteran Virginia Newman who voted for Clinton Tuesday. “My daughter works full-time as a teacher and can’t even afford to carry medical insurance on her children. That’s bad, isn’t it?” She wants Clinton to fix the insurance problem.

    As for Obama, “I don’t trust him because he’s too young. And there’s something there, I’m not sure what’s going on, but I just have a feeling that there’s someone backing him and that he’s not really his own person. I’ve had that sense all along. He came up too quick.”

  • If Edwards finishes above Obama in Florida, he will join Hillary is support of seating the delegates.

  • is oprah going to tell “he is the one” again and again? hate her.. she started the whole race crap..

  • HG

    admin,

    I too saw the ABC news “snub” moment. NY times provided them with four-frame time-lapse photos that caught the entire episode. Charlie Gibson did a very good job! I hope we get a video soon :-)

    Where I live, ABC news is followed by Inside Edition with Deborah Norvil. The lead-in story this evening was THE-SNUB-HEARD-AROUND-THE-WORLD !!! Yeah, the whole world saw it. ;-)

  • TheRealist

    58-21-17 18,000+ to 6,000+ for Hillary

  • AmericanGal

    58% Hillary 21% Obama 17% Edwards 1% reporting from CNN

  • Paula

    gladiatorstail, What’s wrong with a 20-point lead, lol? That’s about where the Fla. polls were pre-SC.

  • dot48

    hillary needs some 9/11 ads…showing her work with the newyork firefighters,,,she needs ads with Katarina victims to show her work for Katrina…she needs ads that contrast HER WORK vs the hope of the Kennedy camelot dream. Show they cannot dream up a proven fighter for this country.

    show her working…america loves hard workers

  • MJS

    so for florida, I’m hoping:

    Mitt Romney in 1st
    John in 2nd
    Ron Paul in 3rd (IT WILL BE A HUGE LAFFF ABOUT GULIANI)

    and for the dems:

    Hill in 1st DUH
    Edwards 2nd
    KUCINICH 3rd (A GUY CAN DREAM, RIGHT?)

    ANd that other guy…whose name I can’t pronounce…LOL

  • Keep in mind Obama has been saying since SC that FL does not matter. That did not play well with Floridians..

  • Joe Friday

    Brian Williams/NBC Nightly News doing a story on Rezko/Obama.

    Hard hitting.

    Including that Obama could NOT have purchased the house without the lot being sold at the same time, as seller demanded. Realtor states “It was a requirement of the listing that they both close on the same day“. She says that Obama COULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THE HOUSE unless SOMEONE bought the lot at the same time, and Obama could not afford to buy the lot.

    OUCH.

  • TheRealist

    Florida Department of State site getting faster results than CNN

  • CJ

    joe that is OUCH..

  • ra1029

    I hope Romney wins on the republican side. I hate media anointed candidates.

  • fashionista

    Oprah…umm you mean the self-important Oprah whose good judgement gave us unethical, publicity whore Dr. Phil, phony memoir writer James Frey, and that cosmetic surgeon hack who operated on Kanye West’s mom? That Oprah?

    Funny, Shepard Smith on Fox isn’t as buggy-eyed as I remembered. No Obama lovefest so far…crossing my fingers. How bias and effed up do CNN and MSNBC have to be for my Dennis Prager-listening, Giuliani-voting brother to say to me that he feels sorry for Hillary and prefers her over Obama if he had to vote for a Dem?! BTW, my brother isn’t as loony as he sounds, for some reason he also likes Bill Clinton….I know Prager, Giuliani, and Clinton, he’s in a demographic all by himself.

  • JAS

    When does HC give her speech??

  • Kingsgrove

    Anyone worried about an Oprah effect in California (wonder how her & Barry’s condescending southern preacher shtick plays there?) should take a look at this. (Politico yesterday):

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8156.html

    Poll: Obama trails Clinton in Calif.

    By: David Mark
    Jan 28, 2008 03:59 PM EST

    Barack Obama continues to trail Hillary Rodham Clinton in California by a wide margin, according to a new Politico/CNN/Los Angeles Times poll….

    Clinton won the support of 49 percent of those polled by telephone by Opinion Research Corporation from Jan. 23-27, a period that covered several days in advance of the South Carolina Democratic primary and one day afterwards.

    Obama came in second place with 32 percent to 14 percent for John Edwards.

    The poll surveyed 690 likely Democratic primary voters, and margin of error was plus or minus four percent.

    The results are similar to a Politico/CNN/Los Angeles Times poll taken Jan. 11-13, in which Clinton led 47 percent to 31 percent, with Edwards claiming 10 percent.

    And perhaps most promising for the Clinton campaign, the new poll found that only 4 percent of likely Democratic primary voters had not made up their minds.

    Moreover, 70 percent of Democrats said they were certain of their choice, while only 30 percent said they might vote for someone else.

    [SNIP]

    California is the delegate-rich anchor of the Feb. 5 “Super Tuesday” bloc of primary states.

    Fifty-two percent of Democratic national convention delegates will be chosen that day, compared to 41 percent on the Republican side.

    [SNIP]

    Among California Democratic primary voters, the poll found, Clinton rates best by wide margins at being able to handle the economy, health care and the situation in Iraq.

    Even on Obama’s signature line – calling for “change” in the way things are done in Washington – the Illinois senator beats Clinton only 40-39 percent.

  • terrondt

    only cnn and foxnews is showing the dem results. msnc are pricks.

  • sandy1938

    I am calling Maxine Waters in the morning. Maxine is a very big catch here in California. She has been influential in blocking WalMart (unlike Obama in Illinois, who voted to allow WalMart into town) from Inglewood. She was the face of sanity and healing immediately after the Rodney King riots. She was one of the few senators who stood up and demanded more recounts in 2000, even going against Al Gore’s own concession. She carries a lot of weight and clout here in Los Angeles, and is very admired in the AA community and the community at large. I am so proud that she is endorsing our girl.

    Things are looking very good for Hillary here in Los Angeles. There are Hillary signs all over West Hollywood, a predominantly LGBT community. But what was fantastic was the other day, when I went for a walk in McAurthur Park, a predominantly Latino neighborhood, there were Hillary signs up everywhere…..on hair salons, on nail salons, on clothing stores , on restaurants.

    I am hoping that during this next week mayor Antonio Villaragosa and Maxine get together and agressively get out the vote.

    As for the TV ads here……..I have not seen any Obama ads on television yet. Hillary ads usually play during the local 6pm and 11PM news on KABC-7, the number one local news in Los Angeles. The one that plays over and over is the Alternative Energy one. My theory as to why she has chosen to play THIS PARTICULAR ad is to appeal to Hollywood types, who are often prone to the “SHINEY NEW” like Obama. West Hollywood, as a city, prides itself on being “The Greenest City in America” , green referring to environmental regulations. This ad should play well for Angelinos.

    I have to admit, it was sad that the Kennedy’s endorsed Obama. But I am encouraged by the fact that the Culinary Workers endorsement didnt mean much in Nevada (from where Obama snuck out of town without saying boo).

    With the media attacking Bill Clinton relentlessly, there is an interesting article linked on Real Clear Politics about a possible “ANTI CLINTON BACKLASH-BACKLASH” which basically speculates that there is a growing resentment among voters that the ELITES in Washington (like the Kennedys) are turning their backs on the Clintons.

    All I can say is this: Hillary has shown us time and time again, there is no fight she is not willing to take on. She will not let her supporters down. She will not let America down. She will fight tooth and nail for every vote, and is in this contest to win the Whitehouse, not to pontificate on flowery themes.

    Perhaps thats why she is so inspiring to many of us.

  • TheRealist

    Lake county; 330 votes, all for Biden. That’s GOT to be a glitch…

  • Paula

    fashionista, I loved your post earlier about donating money to Hillary. :-)

  • HillaryforTexas

    WOOOOOOOOO!!!!! GO, HILLARY!!!!

  • hawk

    Lou Dobbs poll, TAKE IT!

  • TheRealist

    it’s a 2-1 margin right now, 54-27%…

  • Joe Friday

    admin,

    ABC Nightly News had terrific coverage of the ’snub’ moment.

    How about their video of Bambi on the plane with Claire McCaskill peering around his shoulder like a cat that ate the canary as Bambi issues a NON-DENIAL denial about not snubbing Hillary ?

    Good stuff.

  • Gorto

    Hey all, finally I’ve cought up with all the posts!!
    I hope there is a video of that ABC report of the snub, would love to see it.

    And now Oprah, you have got to be KIDDING me!!??! Sheees baaaack!!
    :O Can’t she just go away??!! Many people saw her endorsement of BO as a ’snub’ for women by rejecting the woman candidate. But to go out of her way to campaign for him, again? is just taking it too far, in my view. And bringing out oprah, isn’t the obama campaign announcing that they think they are in trouble?!!!

  • Paula

    52.7 – 25.1 now

  • clintondem99

    Blobberman, Tweety think Iowa an NH are more important than Fl and MI where do you think they have thir heads????

  • Paula

    And bringing out oprah, isn’t the obama campaign announcing that they think they are in trouble?!!!

    Good point.

  • mollyjrichards

    Yes I heard that O. was going to visit California for BO. Anything to upstage Hillary, substance and anything having to do with Rezko.

  • hawk

    I am watching cnn, still a sad excuse for a network, but a lil’ better.

  • HG

    Sandy1938,

    I agree, we’ll see a big anti-clinton backlash.

    Looking at the Florida numbers, I believe the “backlash” is in motion already! :-)

  • TheRealist

    Hillary will get over a MILLION votes tonight. Try to tell the country that doesn’t count.

  • wasabigirl

    Does anyone know Florida well enough to give the demographics of the counties that are reporting?

  • CJ

    hey sandy thats good in la,like san diego and suburan areas..like santee there is Hillary signs all over to from what my neice told me..

    GO Hillary Go come on edwards place 2nd ..

  • TeamClinton08

    No worries about Oprah in Cali.. California has a large population of Latinos who favor Hillary by a wide margin. I love the coverage of hanshakegate on the nightly news. This will very likely turn off many women voters for Obama. Hillary is kicking booty in Florida! GO HILLARY :)

  • Joe Friday

    Andrea Mitchell on NBC Nightly News claiming that while campaigning in New Jersey and Ohio today, it was clear President Clinton had been restrained.

    Silly Rabbit. Nobody restrains the Big Dog.

  • fashionista

    Thanks Paula, so I lose out on a cute handbag but gain new pride when I know that I’ve contributed even just a tiny part to a greater cause. My real respect is with those of you who donate your valuable time to call and canvas for Hillary. Me, all I do is click on keys on the keyboard.

  • Paula

    52-29 with 9 percent in.

  • Jaz

    6%

    52/29/16

    I guess BO’s advertising didn’t go down too well… Hillary’s speech has to got to be direct and amazing today I hope. :)

  • Gorto

    So how many votes is it realistic to hope for, for Hillary?
    Can she reach the magic number??

    I feel myself rooting for edwards here, lol, come on breck girl give that arrogant a@@ a run for his money!

  • JAS

    How meany total delegates does FL. have??

  • hawk

    SHe just needs Dolores Huerta, Antonio Villaraigosa, Gavin Newsom, Fabian Nunez, Maxine Waters, Diane Watson, Lynn Woolsey, Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Diane Feinstein, Rob Reiner, and all of her other supporters there to get out and GOTV. It will be fine. Screw Oprah, she is a burden for obama really, so she needs to stay put in chicago where she belongs, with all of the other sleezeball politicians and high profile people from there.

  • hwc

    Amazing. Major networks don’t even show the results of 1 million Democrats voting in Florida and not a peep of protest from the DNC.

    I think it’s pretty clear why Bill Clinton is the only Democrat to win the White House in 36 years.

    Democratic Party = the party of losers

    The party poobahs are like battered spouses. They are so used to being abused by the media, they don’t even recognize it any more.

  • Paula

    JAS, 210 in the Dem primary.

  • mollyjrichards

    So are we all contributin’ tonight, I mean, those who are able.

  • mollyjrichards

    hwc: They are used to the dem elites leadin’ em around

  • clintondem99

    What they are not telling you is that both Teddy’s endorsement and the great SC do not seem to have any effect.

  • Professor on CNN talking about disenfranchisement

  • CJ

    yeah a million votes…and a million of them,with pundits lying can they imagine if they keep saying florida and Michigan doesnt count…they will block cnn from there view and msnbc..thats quite a few voters from both states and Hillary is going to let them know she cares about them too..

    Oprah will get those letters back on her sight if she does…her viewers have gone down tremendously…
    she better stay at harpo…they’ll be about rezko on there then

  • meiyingsu

    RESULTS: FloridaSTATE INFORMATION: 27 electoral votes

    10,208,431 total registered voters — 41% Democratic, 37% Republican, 19% Independent,
    3% Other

  • terrondt

    50/20 in hillary’s favor. i want it up to 60%. go mitt!!!!

  • hawk

    msnbc reported a memo from the obama campaign that oprah will be in cali this week or early next week.

  • hawk

    How’s Romney doin?

  • TheRealist

    Hillary is on track to pull around 1.3 million votes…

  • terrondt

    29% obama. my bad.

  • 49/30 on the Florida site

  • hwc

    They are used to the dem elites leadin’ em around

    Yep. Teddy Kennedy has been effin’ up Democratic presidential races since 1980. Same old, same old. Kukakis, Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle.

    Just amazing.

    I think the reason they hate Bill Clinton is that he won – twice.

  • hawk

    This does not include absentees right?

  • JAS

    Paula: Thanks.

  • HillaryforTexas

    From Taylor Marsh, and I agree. We should email MSNBC, and tell all we can to do the same.

    I wrote MSNBC, and I encourage others to do the same:

    Your job is not to do the bidding of the DNC. Your job is to cover the news. MILLIONS of Florida Democrats are voting, and you refuse to cover it?

    You do not deserve the title of “news organization” any more. Your license should be revoked by the FCC.

    viewerservices@msnbc.com

  • Florida Dept of Elections Website…

    enight.dos.state.fl.us/

  • Per Florida elections….10,203,112 voters.

  • alot of ‘em disenfranchised.

  • TheRealist

    No Hawk, she’ll add 2-3% points when they count the absentees, at a minimum. It’s an HISTORIC night!

  • Kingsgrove

    blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/01/29/a-clinton-backlash-backlash.aspx

    29.01.2008
    A Clinton-Backlash Backlash?

    God knows I’m the last person to dismiss the Clinton backlash apparently underway in establishment circles, but you do wonder: Is it possible that all the establishment types now turning on the Clintons are laying the groundwork for a backlash of their own? Washington’s esteem for the Clintons may be falling by the day. But, for all their faults, the Clintons, particularly Bill, are still pretty popular among rank-and-file Democrats. It wouldn’t shock me if some of these voters–to the extent they hear about it–feel like the rush to demonize the Clintons is a little unfair and premature.

    –Noam Scheiber

  • JAS

    I think we should write letters to the parent company of MSNBC which is General Electric, it couldn’t hurt!

  • terrondt

    i just shot msnbc a email protesting them shunning the democratic vote totals in florida.

  • hawk

    Just emailed msnbc myself.

  • Kingsgrove

    *Hillary’s Florida VICTORY speech will be tonight at 8:45pm/et

    email MSNBC right now! viewerservices@msnbc.com

  • Berkeley Vox

    Florida is a CRUCIAL swing state — the most important of them all — and we need a Democrat who can carry the state. Hillary’s getting more votes than McCain!

  • Caroline

    What are the Repulican results?

  • JAS

    Oprah, in CA. too little too late!!

  • CJ

    bfox ..Hillary’s getting more votes than McCain!
    Oprah wont have no effect on calif…nah…she picked the wrong person and she started that race crap to hes the one..yeah right!!!!women will not fall for her crap

  • MJS

    REthugs:

    Mitt
    John
    GULIANI!! HAHA HE is clocking a few percent above Huckabee…though he LIVED in Florida for basically a month. lol

  • clintondem99

    Landslide Hillary! Next Potus! This is a real landslide.

  • MJS

    CJ..some women are not bright. Just as some men are not bright. Expect Oprah to shift some votes or at least garner HUGE headlines…which is the Obama goal.

  • hawk

    They just projected Hill the winner….duh.

  • dere.. cnn calls for hill!!!

  • Paula

    McCain’s up 34-31.

  • TeamClinton08

    YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY Go Hillary! :) I still say Oprah will have minimal effect if any in Cali.

  • another_reader

    hahah tweety freudian slip taking about the headlines being the significance of this about bara.. romney. :)

  • Gorto

    hmm, I was hoping for hillary to reach 60%, but now she’s below 50%, come on Hillary!!

  • hawk

    Come on Mitt……come on. You have to win this.

  • MJS

    Guliani is LAME. Can’t believe hillfans use to view him as a threat.

  • MJS

    hillary gets 49%!

  • Gorto

    another hmm, cnn’s numbers don’t agree with themselves, on the big screen they say hills got 52%, but on the tiny screen on the tv, it’s 49%

  • dt

    absentee ballots have still to be counted..she’ll break 50 easily..

  • Paula

    CNN exit polls say Hillary got 27 percent of the AA vote. Definite improvement over SC!

  • Gorto

    bill schneider on cnn is saying if this trend continues for obama, getting so low % of the white votes, as was also the case in SC, he’s in trouble.

    So this is good, they are covering this!!!

  • another_reader

    am i crazy or does it probably HELP hillary for a lot of people to see dc establishment going wild over obama

  • MJS

    ROMNEY! WIN, DAMNIT

  • TeamClinton08

    Im rooting Romney too lol! Romney is a much weaker candidate and would be much easier to beat in the GE.

  • hawk

    Miami Dade and Broward are not in yet.

  • MJS

    Gorto…they are trying to inject race again….prbbly trying to attract ppl who will vote for Obama just to say “I’m white, and I’m not racist”

    ugh.

  • MJS Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
    ROMNEY! WIN, DAMNIT

    hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

  • mollyjrichards

    I just gave our girl a little dough. I wish I could do more. I’d given on South Carolina day, too. I just feel so frustrated wanting to do more and can’t. A nice lady from California called so I gave her some money. I also wrote a little letter to MSNBC. They grown more obnoxious by the day. The free commercial for the campaign by John Kerry was certainly the “highlight” thus far tonight. I hope for a backlash-backlash as mentioned above.

    MK

  • Jaz

    Exit polls:

    Hispanics broke 60:30:10
    Black: 30:70
    Religion Catholic, Jewish 60:30 to clinton

  • Hawk, Date and Broward will be huge for Hillary!

  • mollyjrichards

    mj i mean for mollyj

  • HillGuy

    CNN claiming BHO getting 30% of the latino vote, Hillary got 59%. This is an improvement in the latino vote for BHO, but as Hawk said, Miami/Dade results aren’t in yet.

  • mollyjrichards

    The numbers look good yall

  • romney or mccain – regardless, they are nothing compared to hil. imagine the debates…

  • CNN projected, based on these exit polls and SC results, Obama will be lucky to get 1/3 of the delegates on Super Tuesday.

  • MJS

    ooh…Miami numbers should push our girl to 53+ i think.

  • mollyjrichards

    Do you think just by doin’ the demographics yall they are trying to race bait again?

  • Paula

    But Hillary improved among AA voters, too.

  • MJS

    LMAO. HAHAH Obama only getting 1/3 of 1400-1700 delegates? LOL

  • MJS, yes, coming from Florida, I know there are huge Clinton fans down there.

  • Gorto

    I don’t think they are doing that (yet), they are reporting the statistics as they have all along, showing the % of the latino votes hillary has so far, if I remember it was 60%, and etc… It’s important stuff.

    And this could indicate whether Obama has become the black candidate instead of just a candidate who happens to be black.

    But this result from Florida has been clear long before SC, so it’s not like white people suddenly didn’t like so many aa voting for obama, so they changed their vote. This could be obamas ticket out of the race. (and I don’t mind)

  • MJS

    i can see McCain basically having a stroke if our girl Hill calls him out on something…lol

    and Romney would probably just keep flip flopping like no tomorrow.

  • mollyjrichards

    I got the sound down on CNN right now (BIll Bennett) and I saw the heading “Ronald Reagan Library.” First phrase that went through my mind was “comic books.”

  • dot48

    already got a call from someone who says a backlash against establishment turning on the clintons will hurt obama. they see this as a classic slap in the face…especially with Bill Clinton on the Kerry deal. It is just now starting to sink in to people.

  • mollyjrichards

    You know I remember President Clinton saying that Hillary would have a much more difficult time in the primary and I can see that. I think her debating McCain or Romney would be so sad for them. Not that I’d be sad.

  • Canaan

    “As for Obama, “I don’t trust him because he’s too young. And there’s something there, I’m not sure what’s going on, but I just have a feeling that there’s someone backing him and that he’s not really his own person. I’ve had that sense all along. He came up too quick.”

    That’s interesting. Maybe Kennedy is pulling Obama’s strings all along?

  • ROMNEY! WIN, DAMNIT lol hiihi: )

  • another_reader

    hahah, norah odonnell doing her best to make the case that votes for hillary by people who made up their mind earlier somehow dont count as much as other votes. WRONG

  • JAS

    Winning FL.will bring momentum and money!!!

  • hawk

    Glitches in Dade and Broward machines

  • MJS

    OMG

    THE REPUBC RACE IS INTENSEEEEEEEEE

    34/33 McCAIN ONLY ONE POINT AHEAD OF OURRRR BIG HUNKY MAN, ROMNEY!!

    GO ROMNEY GO!

  • hawk

    Look at the republicans….wow.

  • TeamClinton08

    Obama has a serious problem on his hands.. Hillary beats him 2-1 with Latino voters, White females, the 50+ crowd and basically ties her with men. Obama can’t beat her with A.A and the under thirty crowd alone. These advantages should help Hillary win a majority of the Feb 5 states.

  • Hawk, what else is new? lol

  • dot48

    people don’t watch msnbc…they are hell bent on derailing anything positive for Hillary. this is the mess they are.

  • hwc

    Exit polls:

    White 53% – 22%

    Latino 59% – 30%

    Af Am 27% – 70%

  • alcina

    HRC to speak @ 8:45PM per msnbc

  • TeamClinton08

    LOL MJS GO Hunky MITTSTER! :P

  • plural

    I made up my mind a long time ago and haven’t voted yet. I guess Norah would say my vote doesn’t count either.

  • Paula

    I didn’t know Bill Bennet had gotten so fat …

  • another_reader

    msnbc breaking: “obama will finish second behind clinton..”
    bias anyone??

  • CJ

    come on mitt… fit..close

  • AmericanGal

    Fox pundit Krystol saying that exit polls show the late deciders in Florida split between Obama and Hillary and that means they have an even playing field going out into the Feb. 5 states. Oh good grief, they probably split late deciders evenly because no one got to campaign there or have a GOTV effort there…

  • TeamClinton08

    WOW Obama is in serious trouble with Whites and Hispanics.. A.A alone will not win it for him.

  • mollyjrichards

    Will anybody show her remarks? And is that time eastern?

  • MJS

    lol. You KNOW HOW WE LIKE EM: RICH, SLIPPERY, AND GRAY . :D

  • alcina

    msnbc-pukes already dissing HRC vote due to early voting, before their beloved “took hold”……barf.

  • hwc

    CNN percentages for the incoming vote are not correct. Based on the vote totals, it’s really 52% to 32% right now.

  • hawk

    Downplay FLA, Downplay FLA, the new obama mantra up until the 5th. Now for those endorsements…….

  • MJS

    MR. GREASY HUNK IS ONLY 10,000 VOTES BEHIND. GO GO GO

  • mollyjrichards

    HOw could we make a boycott of MSNBC effective?

  • hawk

    51-28 on fla elec. site

  • plural

    Have the absentee votes been counted yet?

  • hwc

    BTW, according to the exit polls 59% of the voters were women and Hillary won those 55% to 29% to 13%

  • Paula

    As if all the early voting happened while Hillary was perceived as having momentum. Not!

  • MJS

    7,000 votes now…c’mon shitty mitty…

  • alcina

    hawk

    also heard BO quote of him “keeping his word” in regards to the no-campaign pledge.

  • clintondem99

    Admin, Is there any way we could take the results of Florida put it on one paper and add it as a part of Sunday suppement of every newspaper in the country.

  • another_reader

    that is not logical from kristol. in every state, there are people make up their minds earlier and there are late deciders. if hillary overwhelmingly wins people who make up their minds early, and ties obama with late deciders, than that says hillary has kept her support all that time. late deciders votes are not super votes or anything!

  • Absentee votes are usually counted last in Florida.

  • terrondt

    yeah, the aa vote is 18% of the dems in florida and he won 70% of them. i agree, not enough aa votes to get him over the hump. he is the african-american vote only candidate.

  • clintondem99

    I meant supplement

  • plural

    If they haven’t counted the absentees, how can Hillary’s total now reflect early voting?

  • MJS

    darn it! old McCain is leading by two now

  • hawk

    It doesn’t yet.

  • Paula

    Romney falling further behind. Darn!!!!!!

  • dot48

    cnn does give best coverage…john king with those maps is superb. I just despise the rest of their coverage

  • only 70? thats surprising.. well Obama didnt campaign there.. so maybe.. otherwise he would have gotten 82%..miami dade county results coming in.. hill will kick ass in this in this county!

  • TeamClinton08

    LOL MJS, Common Grease Monkey MiTTENS :P

  • another_reader

    sorry for confusion, i dont think hill’s total has absentees. i mean exit poll data showing, from people who voted today, when those people made up their minds. (i think. msnbc wasn’t very clear.)

  • nikki22

    another reader- Kristol is one of the most antihillary pundits on fox. After Hillary won by double digits in Michigan, Kristol actually tried to argue it was “encouraging” for Obama going into Nevada! LOL!!!

  • Plural, I’m not really sure how they are getting that “voted early” stuff.

  • Paula

    glad, How do you know what counties are coming in?

  • howard steinman called Obama JFK by half??? WOWWWWWWWW..

  • MJS

    lol Clinton08, I’m gonna make myself hurl…but…

    C’MON SLICK DELICIOUS SHITTAY MITT! U CAN DO IT.

  • TeamClinton08

    Hot Damn.. That damn old man can’t be beating that HUNK OF GREASE MITTENS.. Come on you slippery BASTARD! LOL

  • clintondem99

    Do we get to see Hillary’s winnig celebration?

  • alcina

    if we’re lucky, cspan will cover HRC’s speech live @ 8:45 EST. cspan is great. no BM-pukes destroying the moment of V-I-C-T-O-R-Y!

  • HillaryforTexas

    Obambi only pulled 29% women? ROOOOOOOARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! :-D

  • Nearing a million dem votes and only 35% in. This will be the biggest turnout of all primaries/caucuses combined.

  • hawk

    County reults by clicking on presidential election link on florida website.

  • TeamClinton08

    LOL he only got 29% of women??! Guess his rude and snooty attitude didn’t charm them to his side :P

  • HG

    Wow, Hillary is receiving the highest number of votes, beating McCain and Romney!

    Florida is THE most important swing state. If we want to win the general, Hillary is without doubt the strongest candidate.

    The Messianic candidate chosen by the Washington insiders/elites/losers/misogynists is being soundly rejected by the PEOPLE.

  • MJS

    Hill4Tex, that 29% of women includes the snobby “i’m too good for hillary” kind and the cowards who don’t want to be labeled as sexists.

  • Gorto

    hehe, hillary is fighting mcCain for more votes, she above 400,000 now tho!!

  • admin

    Looks like more voters in Florida than all the previous states combined. Maybe CNN will total the numbers from the previous states and compare them to the huge vote totals in the Sunshine state.

    Obama is Bush to Al Gore tonight. Obama wants to get elected by ignoring the popular vote.

  • Paula

    Who’s Howard Steinman? You mean Howard Fineman?

  • palm beach obama will kick ass… those limo owners think teddy endorsement is sooo coool!

  • hawk

    Palm BEach County hasn’t come in either…wow.

  • MJS

    I’m NOT LOSING FAITH IN YOU, MY DEAREST ROM ROM.

  • yeahhh sorry my bad.. newsweek Howard Fineman

  • hawk

    Hill’s on cnn.

  • Gorto

    Here is Hillary!!!!!!!!!!

  • hawk

    Bill Nelson too.

  • Very very very strong turnout county by county. Amazing numbers for a Primary.

  • MJS

    is hill speaking?

  • I do not know why everyone wants Romney to win. McCain is a 1 issue candidate (Iraq) and will not bring out the Republican base in November. Romney on the other hand has more economic experience than McCain both in the political and private sector. McCain has said the economy is not his strong suit. Remember “it’s the economy stupid”
    I do not care what the polls say as the economy worsens Romney will give Hillary a much tougher fight in November. Also keep in mind it is not a fluke that a sitting Senator has not been elected President since JFK. Americans tend to vote for Governors over Senators because they have much more executive experience.

  • alcina

    GO TO CSPAN

  • clintondem99

    Hillary on cspan

  • wowwww wolfie just threw in recount word… hehe.. this will kick ass for slick mitty.. he should challenge old man, give him heart attack.. this ad on kos sometime earlier was AWESOME…!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiCqxKLIVDY

  • TheRealist

    My email to MSNBC

    As a democrat, I am outraged at the insult to the millions who are voting in the Florida Democratic primary, and your denigration and minimization of it’s significance in the nominating process. Does momentum come from WINNING or accumulating delegates? Your shunning and ridiculing the vote and by extension, the democratic voters of Florida, who will cast more votes tonight than all of the previous states COMBINED, is either a drug-induced editorial decision or evidence of a blatant favoritism towards one candidate.

    The voters in the 2/5 states don’t care much or KNOW much about delegates, but they will sure as hell know what vote totals represent, and so do you. The deliberate attempt to propagandize the democratic results by minimizing the fact that Hillary Clinton scored as large a victory in a multi-racial, diverse state (10 times as large as any previous state) and a VITAL swing state in the general election to boot, re-inforces the pro Obama, anti-Clinton slant that at least one of your on air talking heads has had to publicly apologize for.

    This is an HISTORIC win for a female candidate in a presidential primary. Your network didn’t make much of Hillary’s FIRST IN UNITED STATES HISTORY primary win by a woman candidate, and now you seem determined to NOT acknowledge her amassing over a MILLION votes for the nomination, a WOMAN, and I bet that the demographics you won’t show will indicate that she captured almost every demographic.

    You won’t show it because your network supports a candidate who HASN’T captured across the board demos since his fluke win in Iowa. You won’t show her demographics because your network is dedicated to promoting the fallacy that it is she who is tearing the democratic party apart, and not the candidate with 80%+ support from ONE group in each of the contests prior to this one. Dedicated to promoting the candidate who FAILED to garner a majority of DEMOCRATS until his AA powered win in unrepresentative SC.

    I have been a long time viewer of Countdown, but I have been so appalled at the blatant bias shown by even Keith Olbermann, someone I respected, that I am taking his show off my tivo until whoever gets to send out the memo, orders you to act like JOURNALISTS instead of paid shills for one guy.

    XXXXXX XXXXXXX
    (Former viewer)

  • Gorto

    got a link?

    cnn says they will show her speak

  • nikki22

    Guys I know some of you are worried about McCain in the general but I’m not. Look for all the talk of the antihillary vote in the dems primary there really is an anitmccain vote in the repub primary. Like I said earlier conservatives hate McCain. A lot of them will vote for him if he gets nominated but he won’t have all their footsoldiers- the evangelicals & talk radio.

  • Caroline

    Wait a minute. Hillary, is beating McCain in vote totals and she didn’t even campaign there? WOW….

  • Canaan

    “msnbc breaking: “obama will finish second behind clinton..”

    he’ll finish second in a two-way race — good for him.

  • Can’t stand these media bastards, Cspan, please.

  • Very strange how the Repug who wins has the Nom, but the Dem who wins means nothing (according to media pundit idiots).

  • plural

    Cspan has her rally on now.

  • Gorto

    she isn’t speaking yet, but soon.

    got a link to cnn span, i go to the main page but see no link to watch

  • Over 100K for Hill over McCain

  • brit hume is such a sucker… LOLLL… he is funny.. i like him for some reason..

  • Hill is on CSPAN…hurrah!

  • Gorto

    cnn online is also showing hillary’s rally now it seems

  • alcina

    GORTO go to cspan now

  • Caroline

    what did brit hume say?

  • plural

    Alcee Hastings making fun of the “beauty contest” remark.

  • TheRealist

    59% women turnout!

  • Gorto

    great, a speaker before hillary is taking on the ‘beauty contest’

  • hwc

    Kristol is the guy who came up with the strategy of demonizing Hillary to defeat health care reform in 1993.

  • Paula

    Now it’s 50-29 Hillary!

  • ı love you hillaryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

  • alcina

    HRC must keep the “beauty contest comment” and “florida voters count” front and center.

  • ra1029

    rjk1957,

    I want Romney to win because McCain is the media candidate and I hate the media.

  • fashionista

    Oh please Mitt, win this one for me…..I love a man with Brill cream hair!

    Is it really true what Krystol said, about voters voting today splitting evenly among Hillary and Obama? It could mean a tighter race in our California. I think we need something to counteract Oprah. Maybe we should have a team of West Hollywood fabulous Gay stylists trail Oprah at all the events, distract the targeted women audience by offering free makeovers. It’s shallow, yes, but also just as shallow is Obama’s premise that women will fall weak at the knees for him and Oprah. What a nitwit, disrespecting women while having another, prominent woman do his dirty work.

    I used to live in Pasadena and West Hollywood, I’m more comfortable that Hillary will win there. C’mon WeHo Gays and Santa Monica power Lesbians, we need your help! Actually, I’m more concerned by the other bastion of Democratic hold, the SF Bay Area. I think Obama might do better over there.

  • ra1029

    Like alcina said, go to CSPAN. Hillary is on there.

  • Hillary is going to beat O by more votes tonight than he received in SC total

  • hillary hillary hillaryyyyyyyy

  • HillaryforTexas

    no fashionista, it is not true. Kristol is pulling that out of his ass.

  • Paula

    fashionista, Don’t worry about Kristol. If Hillary’s ahead in a state, and the undecideds break evenly, she still wins.

  • Paula

    Besides, you’d think after SC and the Kennedy endorsement, he’d do better than break even anyway.

  • MJS

    YAY. CLINTON WINS BY 21% (so far)

    IF THESE ARE THE RESULTS and delegates were in…she’d have an additional 100+ delegates :D

  • DemAC

    Sen. Bill Nelson speaking at the rally now…

  • mp

    Hill live on c-span now !

  • MJS

    whose kristol?

  • Hill is talking on CSPAN *now*

  • they love her on fox.. LOLLLLL

  • DemAC

    Nelson: “So goes Florida, so goes the Nation”

  • MJS

    I’M GOING TO MURK INTO THE MUD GUYS. I’M ABOUT TO CHECK OBAMALAMADINGDONG FAN REACTIONS

  • HG

    Bill Nelson —

    I endorse Hillary Clinton!

    And, I give you the next President of United States!

    Amen! :-) :-) :-)

  • Jaz – You mean 70% of Blacks for Obama in Florida? I’ve been seeing higher. If 70% is right, then when we get final figures, somebody should track Obama’s loss curve for Black support:

    NV 83
    SC 80
    FL 70

  • another_reader

    andrea mitchell is awful – this is ‘ginned up’ and a ‘potemkin village.’ :) heheh. now, just a few weeks ago making iowa out to be the deciding contest in the entire race was not ginned up, was it.

  • HG

    Oh, Hillary looking so very pretty! :-)

  • Canaan

    “Is it really true what Krystol said?”

    I can say confidently that the answer to that question is always no.

  • AmericanGal

    Krystol is an idiot on Fox. He doesn’t get it at all…keeps trying to say that because Hillary had higher numbers from earlier deciders and was even with Obama in later deciders that this somehow is a plus for Obama. This does not make sense. It’s because she has those loyal voters who decided early that she was the one that she is ahead. Polls show that these voters are solidly in her camp. They are not going to split from her and the late deciders are not enough to make the difference for Obama.

  • ra1029

    Why do you guys watch MSNBC? You know their biased coverage is not accidental. They are doing it on purpose. Don’t expect it to change.

  • plural

    Florida is a potemkin village?

    How insulting can they be.

    I love the crowd behind Hillary — they’re having such a great time.

  • CNN saying Hillary will be interviewed on the program later this evening . . .

  • Paula

    1950Democrat, That was what the CNN exit polls showed, 70 AA for Obama and 27 for HRC.

  • DemAC

    AmericanGal,
    Plus, early deciders = older voters, late deciders = younger voters, so this is not at all unexpected.

  • AmericanGal

    CNN reporter asked how Obama camp is responding to Hillary win..she says they are “laughing at it”

  • DemAC

    Hillary with 51% now at 40 % reporting. :-)

  • another_reader

    rjk1957. i think you are right about romney. he is talking about economy. probably knows a lot about that and can get support on that. mccain is easier to beat.

  • HillGuy

    AmericanGal, Suzanne Mulveaux is in love with Bambi. She’s an idiot.

  • plural

    Laughing at millions of voters in Florida. That’s smart politics.

  • MJS

    apparently guys, the four big ones:

    Gore, Dean, Kerry, and Kennedy had pledged beforehand to STOP an HRC nomination for personal reasons? (from newsmax I think…found in on bambi site)

    gore–hillary siphoning key resources for his candidacy towards NY senate race

    Dean–pressuring washington insiders not to back Dean (the clintons)

    kerry–Hillary not doing all she could do even though she pledged to help him get elected

    Kennedy–disturbed by Hillary’s hawkish war stance.

    what a load of bull crap, and if this is true…I say FUCK THE LOAD OF THEM. I WILL HELP TO PERSONALLY MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALL OUT OF OFFICE BY THE NEXT ELECTION

  • TeamClinton08

    Wow, can Obama and his camp get more childish and arrogant! UGH!

  • CNN said Obama is laughing at the Florida results. Now, that is the sign of a great potential President, eh?

  • Paula

    Just what I was about to say, plural. Also continues the pattern of arrogance we saw when Obama wouldn’t shake HRC’s hand.

  • another_reader

    looks like mccain is probably gonna beat the mittster. i say good. hardcore conservatives hate mccain. go huck go, take those votes from mitt. i dont want to run against a guy who can write his own campaign tens of million dollar checks.

  • I’m calling Obama’s headquarters tomorrow. I don’t appreciate being “laughed at”.

  • MJS

    Teamclinton, don’t worry. This will backfire in their face. Especially if the Hilary team knows aobut it…oh boy…she can GRILL ‘EM about it.

  • Paula

    CNN showing Rudy headquarters, lol. Talk about a collapse!

  • Kingsgrove

    MJS, what are you talking about?

  • DemAC

    Says Amy Walter (CNN): The absentee votes alone outnumbers the total votes in 2004…

    That’s really cool.

  • MJS

    Kingsgrove: found this on bambi site:

    Insider Report Special Edition

    Who Will Al Gore Endorse Now That
    Teddy Has Spoken?

    Sen. Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination should come as no surprise to readers of Newsmax’s Insider Report, which has disclosed Kennedy’s membership in the so-called “Gang of Four” Hillary Clinton haters.

    The Four — Kennedy, John Kerry, Howard Dean, and Al Gore — have pledged to stop Hillary from getting the nomination, and each has his own reason for detesting Clinton.

    Newsmax has learned from Democratic sources that Gore is said to be waiting until after the primaries on Super Tuesday, Feb. 5 to enter the fray with an endorsement.

    Story continues below . . .

    The word in political circles is that if Obama appears the winner that day, Gore will endorse him — in hopes of driving the final nail into the coffin of the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    As the Insider Report has disclosed on several occasions beginning in June 2005, Kennedy and Gore have been disgusted by Bill and Hillary Clinton’s moderate politics.

    Both were disturbed by Hillary’s hawkish stance on the Iraq war. Early on in the 2008 race, Kennedy had even endorsed Kerry for the 2008 nomination.

    In his endorsement speech Monday, Kennedy praised Hillary Clinton, but then made veiled comparisons with her and Obama, noting that the Illinois senator opposed the Iraq war from the beginning and that he does not “demonize” his opponents.

    Who could Uncle Ted be referring to with those comments?

    Former White House hopeful Gore blames his 2000 loss on Hillary, whom he says siphoned off key resources to her Senate race.

    Howard Dean blames the Clintons for his 2004 campaign woes. A year earlier, Clinton had launched a behind-the-scenes campaign to pressure fellow Democrats not to support Dean for president.

    As the Insider Report disclosed in July 2006, Dean supporters were unhappy with Clinton’s stand on Iraq and her cautious shift to the center. And Sen. Kerry feels Hillary stabbed him in the back, promising to go all out to support his 2004 White House campaign but then doing as little as possible to help him.

    Newsmax.com cited Kerry’s membership in the Gang of Four on Jan. 10 after Kerry announced his endorsement of Obama for president. Now Kennedy has joined him.

    Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, has not yet endorsed a candidate, but insiders say he

  • Kingsgrove

    Nevermind. prob BS.

  • Come next Wednesday they will all be wetting their pants. When Hillary wins the nomination she will clean house at the DNC and throw them all out.

  • LJ

    So I just did some quick math. Here’s what’s up, I pretended Delegates from Nevada and Iowa were actually votes and then I didn’t count Uncommitted for one vote, and one for the other….

    Without uncommitted, as it stands with Florida:

    Clinton totals: 1,045, 580

    Obama totals: 544,996

    With committed, which I’m adding all, not factoring in Edwards either is: 782,758
    Which means: 1 million strong want Hillary as 44… and about half that want Obama. You do the math.

  • Gorto

    That’s right, the clinton camp should go all out with this ‘obama camp laughing at florida voters’. not good for him, but good for us.

    What an asshole, is he looking past his ego at all? he seems trapped in it. If he won, how does he suppose he would get florida to come out and vote for him in the GE with this kind of a behavior?

  • Kingsgrove

    Thanks MJS. I wouldn’t be all that shocked if it was true but, let’s consider the source.

  • DemAC

    MJS,
    That’s just a crap load of BS. Or perhaps a transcript of Obama/Rezko’s wet dream.

    Howard Dean, for example, can’t endorse anyone – he’s the Party chairman.

  • Jaz

    Great Introductions :)

    Gore would be stupid to endorse obama…

    yes exit poll (cnn) says 70% black supported obama.

  • TPS

    Great, Great, Blowout VICTORY for HILLARY!!!

    This is the true test and Obama and Edwards failed miserable. The networkls are covering this
    appropriately! People went out and voted. They saw all the all-Obama-all-the-time coverage
    from all the networks. He has had amazing press in the last 3 days. Yet, Hillary will win
    by 21 points.

    HUGE LOSS FOR OBAMA however they try to spin it.

  • hawk

    Hope obama knows aughing at the most populous swing state is a really fuckin stupid idea. What an arrogant prick, yet again. I can’t wait until we hit it big on the 5th of february.

  • Paula

    And Gore’s not endorsing anyone either.

  • HillGuy

    Love how CNN will show hours of Huckabee rambling, but only showed 2 minutes of Hillary. Bastards.

  • Jaz

    Lmao, Huckabee has his charms..

  • Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee…

    the clintons supported mcauliffe (sp?) for dean’s position as chairman but as we all know now, dean won. so there are grudges spread around the clintons. all from proven presidential alsorans. i didn’t say losers.

  • Kingsgrove

    When Hillary wins the nomination she will clean house at the DNC and throw them all out.

    Can’t wait! The Dems are so out of touch.

  • TeamClinton08

    Got that right MJS.. On super tuesday Hillary and her team will get the last laugh. Can’t wait to see Obamahype, his team and the traitor ( Kerry and Kennedy) eat CROW! That will be priceless :P

  • fiscalliberal

    Regarding even coverage and John King maps. Send complimentiary letter to CNN citing fairness and information and how you went to them 100% and send a blind carbon copy to MSNBC

  • TPS

    We will beat the OLD DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT and put the true CHANGE candidate, HILLARY CLINTON, in the WH.

  • MJS

    ew…Obama has a hotline phone thing designed specially to call women voters??

  • hawk

    Can’t wait for kennedy, kerry, patrick, and kennedy-schlossman to eat it when we win Massachusetts.

  • Paula

    imagine44, McAuliffe was head of the DNC already, prior to Dean.

  • Canaan

    “Gore, Dean, Kerry, and Kennedy”

    All four presidential losers.

  • DemAC

    Obama/Rezko’s taking advantage tonite of media’s preoccupation with Florida to give away more of Rezko’s money:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/01/29/politics/p165430S79.DTL&type=politics

  • clintondem99

    They want to give some one who got 170000 votes 30 mi and Hillary got half a million no time.

  • Joe Friday

    another_reader,

    “…romney. he is talking about economy. probably knows a lot about that and can get support on that.”

    Willard Romney was a corporate raider. Cost a lot of working people their jobs.

  • Headline on Hotline:

    Obama Won’t Commit To Seat FL Delegates

    Obama Campaign manager David Plouffe brushed off the question of whether he would support or oppose seating Florida’s delegates.

    “That’s obviously a long way down the road, he said. “…Obviously this could end up being a very, very close delegate race where we’re fighting for every delegate.” (St. Pete Times)

  • MJS

    has hlil given her speech yet?

  • alcina

    yup, every voting citizen in florida should wake up to the headline that they’re a big joke, big laugh to mister BO.

    HRC’s response should be “you’re not a joke to me”.

  • hawk

    Hill spoke already.

  • Obama Gives Away Money Tied to Donor

    By JIM KUHNHENN | Associated Press Writer
    7:00 PM CST, January 29, 2008

    WASHINGOTN – Barack Obama is giving to charity more than $70,000 in contributions linked to an indicted Chicago businessman whose past connections to the Democratic presidential candidate have created a distraction and raised questions about his judgment.

    The campaign announced the decision to shed the money Tuesday evening, saying it was the result of a further review of contributions related to Antoin Rezko, a real estate developer and fast-food magnate who has been a long time political figure in Chicago, Obama’s hometown.

    Overall, the campaign has now given to charity nearly $150,000 in contributions received by Obama’s House, Senate and presidential campaigns that came from Rezko, his employees, his associates and his family.

    Obama’s relationship with Rezko came under greater scrutiny this week after prosecutors disclosed Rezko received $3.5 million from an Iraqi billionaire while claiming to be broke. He was jailed on Monday and a federal judge on Tuesday refused to reinstate his bond.

    The campaign’s timing for its announcement seemed designed to avoid major news coverage. It came as political attention was focused on Tuesday’s Republican presidential contest in Florida. Earlier this month, the campaign announced it would give more than $40,000 to charity on the same day as the Republican primary in South Carolina and the Nevada caucuses.

    The charitable contribution announced Tuesday came after Obama ordered a more detailed review of contributions related to Rezko, Obama spokesman Bill Burton said. The money covered contributions from Rezko family members and employees and from others who may have given to Obama’s 2004 Senate campaign.

    “By refunding these donations, the campaign has returned any and all funds that could be reasonably credited to Mr. Rezko’s political support,” Burton said.

    Rezko has been a patron of Illinois politicians for years and Obama’s connections to Rezko go back more than 15 years. Rezko has contributed thousands of dollars to the campaigns of both Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Neither has been accused of any wrongdoing.

    Besides the contributions, Obama has fielded questions about Rezko’s role in a June 2006 real estate deal involving Obama’s home on the South Side of Chicago. On the same day the Obama’s purchased the house, Rezko’s wife bought an adjoining lot. Obama has said that the sellers had required that both of the lots had to be sold simultaneously. He has called the arrangement a “boneheaded” mistake, but has said Rezko was not doing him a favor.

    Prosecutors have charged Rezko with fraud, attempted extortion and money laundering in what they allege was a scheme to get campaign money and payoffs from firms seeking to do business before two state boards.

    His campaign s just keeps changing it’s story, after getting rid of the first $40,000 they said they hadno more donations related to REZKO. When the Sun Times reposrted on another $40,000 the day after NV they donated that to charity as well saying that they can find no more money tied to REZKO.
    Now after ABC does a story tying more money to REZKO they are donating this to charity as well.

    My guess is as long as no one reports it they feel safe in keeping the dirty money and once caught and only when caught do they get rid of it.

  • Gorto

    ok, I gotta get up early, so off for a GOOD nights sleep,.

    Night all!

  • alcina

    when do the MA polls, post kennedy endorsement, come out? god, i hope she whipes their asses next week.

  • Paula

    Canaan, Gore won, at least in my book.

  • anbritt

    guys..think about it..they are not laughing..they are pouring over the exit polls figuring out what the hell is going on. they know there is trouble for peter pan…and if you look at the exit data from cnn..the kennedy endorsement resulted in a vote for bho for 25% of those voting..however even with that how do we know that they were already not planning to vote for him..in other words i can;t see where it helped that much..anybody else have an opinion

  • dot48

    yeah, florida obama voters… as per your saviour your vote sucks…doesn’t matter.

  • Caroline

    Do the idiots in the Obama camp and the news media think Florida will not sit their delegates? They are dreaming. I am looking at HRC’s numbers and she has way more than McCain and she DIDN’T even campaign there. Imagine telling over a million voters that their votes don’t count and then you want them to come out for you in November? Dream on.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    Where can we find video of the entire speech? These bastards gave her about 1 minute before going back to the Republican primary. This is so outrageous. OVER 500,000 Floridians voted for Clinton yet she doesn’t get 5 minutes on television. What does this say about our voting system and the MSM? 500,000 people, more votes than any Republican candidate and Hillary gets absolutely no recognition or respect. This is disgusting.

  • hawk

    Alcee Hastings was awesome tonight talking about Hillary at the event in Davie, Florida.

  • alcina

    holy crap…the next seven days will be totally insane.

  • DemAC

    Hillary holding steady at 51 % with 47 % reporting. :-)

  • plural

    He’ll ask that his FL delegates be seated but not hers. LOL.

  • Jaz

    Caroline –
    For sure, if Hillary does not wipe the board on super-Tuesday… then it will go to delegates. At some point, the DNC will realise that people voted in a fair election in florida and will have to include the delegates.

  • hawk

    Still no Palm Beach, Miami-Dade, or Broward counties.

  • Bill Schneider on CNN said going over exit polls and calculating in the Super Tuesday states, unless Obama changes his support among Latinos and Whites his percentage of the vote for Super Tuesday will be in the low 30’s.

    Super Tuesday could be a lot more SUPER than we thought.

  • admin

    Over one million Democrats have voted and we are only at 50%

  • fox news calls for mccain.. damn.. this will get nasty between hillary and mccain..

  • DemAC

    Obama’s Talking Points Memo notes that their candidate is sending negative mailers against Hillary in… North Dakota!

    tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/negative_obama_mailer_hits_hillary_on_nafta.php

  • hawk

    He’s the one republican I am worried about.

  • alcina

    HEHSupporter – try cspan.org campaign network. they may have the HRC speech.

  • admin

    HillaryHub has the Miami Herald headline: Hillary Wins In A Rout

  • JAS

    BO laughing tonight…. HC will be laughing next Tuesday.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    Is anyone in Florida or the HRC campaign planning to set up a petition for people to sign demanding the DNC to make their votes count? This is ridiculous. Expect another 2000 election if Florida isn’t counted.

  • chaz356

    Guys I read Hillary and team like Fl had the early vote in CA already
    we are in very good shape there
    A very good head start
    Debate Thursday Hillary will nail it and setup Super tuesday
    Oprah sorry but too little too late

  • Paula

    glad, It would get nasty no matter who the nominees are on both sides. The Repubs aren’t giving up the WH without a fight.

  • Caroline

    Poor Guliani. What a total disaster. I think I feel sorry for him…NOT.

  • hawk

    McCain wins…..shit.

  • hawk

    I wanted Romney.

  • HillGuy

    Caroline, I would feel bad for Giuliani too if he hadn’t been such an asshole to Hillary all these years.

  • JAS

    BO needs to realize that the youth vote and the AA vote will not get him the nomonation.

  • nikki22

    With McCain at the top of the ticket the Reagan coalition is pretty much dead. Thats how the r’s have dominated the white house for so many years. I wouldn’t be shocked if we see a conservative 3rd party candidate. Now if Bloomberg jumps in McCain will really have trouble cause he’ll cut into his indy vote.

  • no but romney atleast looks good when he is pissed… mccain looks like a ghost!!!

  • JAS

    ABC projects Mc Cain the winner

  • pulchritude

    Hawk, I did not realize Romney is your type. You “wanted” him?

  • hawk

    see my post at:

    rjk1957 Says:

    January 29th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    romney will give Hillary a tougher fight, throw out the polls.

  • jas he has 8-10% limo liberal vote!

  • hawk Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    McCain wins…..shit.

    LOL! i can just imagine the look on yours and mjs’s faces. it’s okay, have faith in our girl.
    regarding guilliani, isn’t karma a bitch?

  • Canaan

    “Canaan, Gore won, at least in my book.”

    Oh, I’m sorry about that, I just reacted. Gore hasn’t endorsed and I hope he has the good sense to stay neutral. I do want to say Gore’s website current.tv is absolutely fantastic. Truly the edge in web technology. Everyone should join. He should get another Nobel just for that website.

    And I’m not really mad at Kennedy either. My bet is Kennedy knows O is going to get creamed on Super Tuesday, and he wants to keep him alive for 2016.

  • Sherm Kader

    Obama will be hoping he and Edwards together can muster enough votes that combining them will give Obama the victory so Edwards can have a place in his administration. I don’t know how possible that may be, and I’m not certain of just how it would be done. Many delegates may not obey when told for whom they should vote other than the candidate for whom they voted.

    From what I understand, Hillary does not have to win more delegates than both of them as long as she has enough super delegates who will join her at the convention. If she has enough delegates to be in the lead, she can ask that the Florida and Michigan delegates be seated. The idea is for that to give her enough votes to win the nomination. I hope she wins enough delegates outright to avoid having to do that, but I’ll take her win anyway I can get it.

    If anyone knows different from what I’ve tried to describe, I would love to be instructed on the matter.

  • leneh

    This campagin is getting me sick. Obama breaks the ban running a national ad and including Florida – but Hillary gets hit. But – let’s put all that aside and talk about the 2.5 million Floridians who have just been told by the media, Howard Dean and Obama – that their votes don’t count. They don’t support women – they have no problem in gutting them – and their supporters who have had to deal with the fact that women were the last to get the vote – a half-century after black men. No one talks about that – no one talks about the violence against women – no one has a debate or forum about women’s issues – but raise one question about Obama – and you are called a racist. What is it that people hated about the Clinton years – was it the peace, was it the prosperity, was it the way we were held in high esteem internationally (I know, I traveled over 100,000 miles internationally during those years). What do they hate – was it Hillary saying women’s issues are human issues – what did they hate? What did our mothers fight for all these years – we are resurrecting the dead to endorse. How the heck does anyone know what Caroline Kennedy’s mother or father would feel about this – that is only a comment an idiot would make – we are as bad as the Republicans who are trying to raise Reagan from the dead. Yes, I am mad – I am mad as hell that this campaign has turned into a race where it is OK to “beat up” a woman – but we can’t ask one question of a man – wake up America – wake up American women – this election is about you – and we will not have another chance for a very long time -

  • hawk

    :) Pulchritude.

    Mitt is not exactly my type :)

  • MJS

    CALL THE DNC TO DEMAND THAT FLORIDA COUNTS. IT IS A CRUCIAL SWING STATE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION AND DEMOCRATIC VOTERS FEEL ALIENATED BY THEIR OWN PARTY. DO WE WANT REPUBS TO TAKE THIS STATE AGAIN?????

  • MJS

    phone # for DNC: 1-877-336-7200.

  • Jaz

    I’m concerned about Hillary… Some of the red states are strong for obama.

    However, we will win and SHOULD give a huge delegate lead CA, NY,NJ, TN, AZ, AR, CT, MA
    Obama: IL,CO, KS, UT, GA, ID, ND, AK, DC

    Either: NM (depends on Bill richardson endorsement), AL, MO

    Note: Hillaries states all have more delegates. She could have a pledged lead of over 400 on tuesday.

  • hawk

    A little old for me, almost 40 years too old, I think. How old is he? :)

  • Paula

    That’s OK, Canaan. :-)

  • guliani thought hillary bashing will give him rethug nomination!!

  • pulchritude Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
    Hawk, I did not realize Romney is your type. You “wanted” him?

    hawk wants a “daddy”…na na na na na!LOL!

  • alcina

    in regards to the GE, like ted kennedy would say “we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it”

    ( i know, it’s a bad, old joke..couldn’t resist )

  • Blue Democrat

    MSNBC gives more time to Guiliani dropping out than Hillary who is taking the most votes out of Florida – for either party tonight.

    Am I wrong?

  • rigso

    what do people think Hillary’s chances are against McCain?

  • another_reader

    romney will give Hillary a tougher fight, throw out the polls.
    thats what i think too. hope huck stays in and keeps taking mitt votes

  • hawk

    Notice most of those obama states, which seems right, are all tiny and ones we won’t carry in the ge anyway. New Mexico will go for us, we will have the closest races in Missouri and Tennessee.

  • pulchritude

    Hawk, I do not know. But I am excited about the prospect of Hillary garnering over 1,000,000 votes tonight.

  • hawk

    At least McCain can be spun too look too old and senile for the job and he has a bad position on Iraq for independents.

  • chaz356

    People lets donate to Hillary
    This is it
    If you can please donate
    Those losers will not prevail(Kerry, Kennedy etc)
    Ps Canaan you have every right to be mad with Kennedy –
    Obama blew it he got greedy he was not ready
    Harold Ford in after Hillary

  • Blue Democrat

    This diary has a nice quad of the “snub” photos, but perhaps most telling is the one of Obama grinning ear-to-ear with George W. Bush!!!

    Coffee pot at the ready, looks like I’ll be doing some posting tonight!

  • rigso

    “It’s the Economy Stupid” was the slogan in 1992 and the way things are going now it will be again in the Fall of 2008.

    McCain has no clue on economic issues, look at the last debate when Ron Paul asked him that question about the council of economic advisors, he had no idea of what Paul was talking about.

  • hawk

    imagine44 :)

    Maybe I do. Not a republican that’s fo sho.

  • anbritt

    cnn reported that the florida late deciders went to HRC..bho people have to be very concerned with the outcome as bill scheider says…they are not laughing..you cannot ognore this many voters..if bho were to get the nom with these numbers we would lose florida for sure somebody wakeup!!!

  • MJS

    LOL me and romney? BLAH. i think hawk has an eye on Romney’s sons though…;)

  • DemAC

    leneh,
    I actually think the core of the hate is hatred of ordinary people. Both Clintons are larger than life figures. But both Clintons are, at the same time, great inspiring role models for ordinary people. They are extraordinary people but they don’t come from extraordinary circumstances. And this is the great danger – that ordinary Americans think that they have opportunities, and have a say and have value.

    The essence of Hillary hating is (although sexism is an important factor too) that ordinary people should know their proper place in society. Hillary transcends societal hierarchies and she’s a torn in the side of almost every elitist group in American society.

  • hawk, i take it back. soowweee…

    leneh said: What is it that people hated about the Clinton years – was it the peace, was it the prosperity, was it the way we were held in high esteem internationally ?
    it’s the fact that the clintons are smarter, more articulate and winners (despite all the odds stackedagainst them). so formidable that they can’t put down at all. they hate that.

  • pulchritude

    I personally subscribe to the practice of always having a daddy or two at one’s disposable. Regarding Super Tuesday, I desire to see polling data from this week before prognosticating the outcome of any particular primary or caucus.

  • Jaz

    We need a Bill Richardson endorsement to nail the latino vote. Then Obama wont have a chance. Imo.

    Bill for VP! Originally I wanted Obama as VP..but he’s shown he’s a total jerk this week….

  • Canaan

    admin, you know the sun will be in Aquarius on Super Tuesday.

  • hawk

    jk imagine, but you are right about the Clintons. I hope the republicans know that we will do everything we can to prevent them from even getting near us in november.

  • MJS

    i say the clintons have the right idea in dealing with republicans in that when they strike, you strike back not just once, but twice as hard!

  • hawk

    Romney called “socialized medicine” Hillarycare…..ugh. He just dissed teacher’s unions too.

  • alcina

    OMG..reverend romney..can’t take it.

  • nikki22

    DemAC- That is the best explanation of clinton derangement syndrome ever written! It is sooo true.

  • I guess Mitt looked at the Democratic exit polls too!! Sounds like he is campaigning against Hillary. At least the Republicans know who the Democratic nominee will be even if the old guard of the democratic party do not.

  • TeamClinton08

    Hillary is leading in all but two of the Feb 5th states.. I think she’s losing GA and Ill

  • Berkeley Vox

    Absolutely, MJS. As the Big Dog himself once joked, it’s hard for your opponent to say bad things about you if your fist is in his face :)

  • Paula

    CNN says Rudy in talks to endorse McCain.

  • Idunn

    I just caught a video on youtube called ” Obama’s Failures In Illinois…from gangs to the ghetto”. If you guys haven’t seen it, please do. I cried like a baby watching those images.

  • MJS

    When Hillary is the nominee, she will wipe the floor with Republican tears.

  • admin

    Canaan, will Jupiter align with Mars? :)

  • hillary said “deck” them”. they won’t know what hit them. while she smiles sweetly…

  • LJ

    just said CNN will have Hillary on….

  • admin

    Wolf announced Hillary will be interviewed on CNN.

  • hawk

    Yay! HRC on CNN. Take em’ to task for ignoring Florida!

  • LJ

    ugh….an ad for barack?

  • jaz

    Obama : CO, KS, UT, GA, ID, ND, AK, DC

    are you sure???? firstly DC is not red state. it is blue to the core.

    I will believe UT. KS, CO and AK vote for Obama when I see it. I cannot imagine these states voting for Obama. Are you sure you know the demographics? Trust me, if Obama doesnt have 15+% of AA vote in a state, he wont win the state. Thats factually accurate.

  • admin

    Obama ad on CNN. He did cash in – with Rezko.

  • DemAC

    Says Taylor Marsh:


    After 2000, Florida matters.

    We’re calling this a win, a big win. No Democrat campaigned in Florida, but Clinton got the most votes by a mile. Obama can continue his sour grapes strategy, even with a Florida cable ad buy. We gave him credit where it was due for South Carolina. It would be nice to see some class from him, but after The Snub I won’t hold my breath. Today, Clinton wins Florida and she won it big.

  • HillaryforTexas

    DC itself is about 80% AA, I’m pretty sure, gladiator.

  • wbboei

    Paula-when Bennet gives up one addiction (gambling) another one inevitably sets in (glutony). Even when you are moralistic.

    On the other hand he could emulate Rush and do a 2 fer (drugs)+ (gluttony). I should not joke about this. For him Romney goes down like a mouth full of grass burrs. Better post a suicide watch for ditto head, in case he decides to slit his wrists for Mitt.

    Speaking of Mitt, where the hell is the family Irish setter Seamus ? Lashed to the top of the family car with hershey highway heading down the windshield . Shit! Call out the pita brigade with firehoses. They can help Mitt celebrate his Florida victory.

    CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR GIRL! Just wait til I get sober. Called Maxine Waters office and left message we love her, and that interview.

    CAUTION FOR US. If Mitt gets the ultimate nod (rather than McCain who likes Hillary) then its scorched earth. Hillary knows how to deal with it but Bambi would be a deer in the headlights. The Bushies support Mitt and they have the attack dogs. Watch the driftwood on NewsMax and you will get a feel for this.

  • Okay lets count how many times McCain says “My Friends” in his voctory speech

  • LJ

    did hillary speak in a teleprompter? or is she the only one tonight who spoke from the top their head?

  • MJS

    Hmm, at this rate, I think the best endorsement for Barack would be by George W. Bush :D

  • hawk

    DC will go obama, but I disagree with Utah. Hill is the only candidate who has been there, if only for fundraising.

  • hawk

    Top o’ the head.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    Wow. Over 700,000 Floridians voted for Hillary today. That’s what you call a route. It’s just unbelievable to me that their votes don’t matter!
    I just called the DNC and I was on the phone for about a minute. The operator just told me that he understands my concern and he would pass it along to the DNC chairman. Who knows if that will happen but I recommend all of you to call. It’s toll free anyway.

  • Jaz

    DC will go BO…not many delegates though… So it’s pretty irrelevant imo.

  • AmericanGal

    These are the CNN late decider numbers:

    Voters who made their decision in the last 3 days (including today):

    Hillary 37% Obama 34%

    Voters who made their decision on election day:

    Hillary 35% Edwards 31% Obama 27%

    If you remove the last minute deciders and have look at those voters who made a decision over the weekend

    Obama 45% Hillary 40%

    So perhaps there was some kind of backlash to the Kennedy endorsement (or perhaps the snub?)

    politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/29/exit-polls-clinton-wins-late-deciders/

  • Idunn

    Hey, the Obama camp started it by running those tv ads. All we did was finish it. Decisively, I might add.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    The only places I can think of where Obama has a very, very good chance of winning are Alabama, DC, Georgia, and Illinois. Those southern states have larger AA populations and more whites who would rather vote for someone incompetent over a woman and especially Hillary Clinton. I expect for Edwards to split votes with Clinton in those southern states but she has a very good chance on the east and west coast.

  • admin

    The lesson of the McCain win for us is “never give up”, never get distracted, never get depressed.

    The man’s campaign collapsed last year but he kept chugging along.

    Hillary also keeps chugging along – even when all Big Media, PINOs, Naderites, and old boys network tries to stop her. These boobs have talked themselves out. Today and next week the voters speak.

  • hawk

    Absolutely admin, I thought he had died proverbially.

  • alcina

    biggest 7 days of our campaign lives coming up, boys and girls. let’s keep it positive all the way!

  • mccain’s speech is very moving.

  • DemAC

    Am studying Florida polls for future reference. If the results we’re seeing now stands SurveyUSA had very accurate results in their two last polls, both the Dem and the GOP primaries we’re almost spot on.

    LA Times poll was also very accurate in predicting the Dem result, but a bit more off in predicting the GOP. LA Times had however a correct order of finish also for the GOP.

    ARG on the other hand was totally lost as usual. This season ARG is the polling equivalent of Rudy’s campaign. Or perhaps ARG is Aquarius – far, far out there…

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    AmericanGal: Those numbers aren’t good. I’m hoping there isn’t a huge backlash. I think CA is going to Clinton anyway since 50% are absentee and have already been sent in. I think MA and NY will go to Hillary even with the Kennedy endorsement.
    Hopefully the snub photo will change a few minds and Bill Clinton going around the country talking about the issues instead of Obama.
    Clinton still got 30% of the black vote in Florida which I think is good. Anytime Obama gets below 75% of the black vote, that is not a good sign for him. He counts on the black vote. Clinton even got a lot of the youth vote in Florida which surprised me.

  • hawk

    Yeah, moving me to sleep.

  • fashionista

    I’m more worried about McCain simply because Americans have a track record of voting for the personable candidate over the more stellar or smarter candidate. He can pull Independents and conservative Dems, plus the MSM loves him. To them, he’s like their funny, un-PC grandpa or something. However, he can’t talk about the economy without looking and sounding like an out of touch idiot. That’s the one, big advantage that Hillary has.

    Romney comes across as a smarmy executive type. He might be easier for Hillary to attack without coming across as disrespecting veterans or beating up on an affable old dude.

  • mccain is soo articulate.. and obama thinks he can win this guy with an empty suit!!! Geez!!

  • nikki22

    Just caught my first HRC ad here in Memphis! I thought it was great. She talked about standing up for people her whole life and there was soft majestic music playing as she spoke. Can’t wait till Tuesday.

  • hawk

    This is why I wanted Romney to win, but now I don’t know. They can all be beat, but with this bs media, should be an interesting fall.

  • Jaz

    McCain is dangerous.

    He sounds like a person we could trust, his tone of voice is like a grandfathers…

    That said, his policies are wacky..

  • fashionista.. bush has shown us how to defeat him.. he is personable.. but he has fundamental flaws in terms of fiscal conservatism.. he is a war freak.. bomb bomb and keep on bombing..

  • DemAC

    HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter,
    Remember that late deciders = tend to be younger, early deciders = tend to be older. Hillary is stronger among the older demographics that also are more reliable to actually vote. With 50 % absentee in California, things are very bright indeed.

  • Idunn

    If Hillary gets the nom, and chooses Wes Clark as her running mate, McCain won’t stand a chance.

  • hawk

    CNN attacking Hill over obama.

  • wasabigirl

    I think there is a change that Arkansas will be close. They have a large AA population.

  • Jaz

    Attacking her for what?

  • Idunn

    Attacking her for what??

  • pulchritude

    Hillary will carry Arkansas by a 30 point margin.

  • funny that both hil and mccain are “disliked” by insiders in their own party…this is going to be a “civil race” between friends.

  • Jaz

    arkansas won’t be too close. They’ll send Bill eventually…end story.

  • plural

    Attacking her for defeating him?

  • LJ

    Did you hear that comment Anderson made? ugh.

  • TeamClinton08

    Hillary has a HUGE lead in Arkansas. No way will it be close!

  • Caroline

    Please Arkansas is not going to be close. Hellooo…HRC was first lady of Arkansas, Bill Clinton was governor and was born in Arkansas. Not even close.

  • pulchritude

    Yes, I did. And no, I am not surprised.

  • are we talking about whiny again?

  • johnflint1985

    guys she leads in all Feb 5 states but 2: Colorado and Georgia
    here are the polls – you can see all states here

    http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/primary-election-poll-results/south-carolina-democratic-republican-polls.html

  • hawk

    Roland Martin, ya know the obama supporter, was talking about mccain needing to unify the republican party and Anderson cooper tried to move on to the next topic, he quickly added that hillary is the person to unite the republican base. Yuck.

  • hawk

    Yeah, one statewide tour of bill and its over, if it already is not, in Arkansas.

  • ark – just remember: the man from hope.

  • alcina

    we had 100’s of arkansan supporters bused up to NH during the final week. they LOVE hillary and will stop at nothing to help her out. they were wonderful.

  • TeamClinton08

    If McCain gets the Republican nod Hillary MUST pick Clark as her VP. If Romney is the candidate ( which I believe can still happen) she is safe picking either Edwards, Clark, Bayh, Biden etc..

  • AmericanGal

    HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter, I don’t understand why the CNN numbers should be considered bad. If Obama was on a roll he would have dominated the voters that decided today I would think and he came in third. The fact that Hillary and Obama had almost the same numbers of weekend late deciders seems a positive considering all the hoopla over SC .

    As many have posted, late deciders are usually younger. This would be Obama natural voting group overall.

  • Jaz

    I hope Bloomberg enters the race, Republicans will be over then…

  • TheRealist

    # wasabigirl Says:
    January 29th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    I think there is a change that Arkansas will be close. They have a large AA population.

    AA population is about 16%. There is nowhere except DC where the AA vote is a factor on 2/5, especially based on the demo tonight.

  • MJS

    wow. well, here’s how I see tonight.

    obama got shafted, whipped, spanked, and dunked by our girl…which is merely a preview of what is to come on Super Tuesday when states, largely following the same demographic basis, will vote in massive numbers.

    Romney got slapped in the face by a man who looks old enough to be his dad.

    McCain, we ALL should realize now, is THE most dangerous REpublican candidate in that he is nice, gooey, and makes you want to hug him (like a granpa). Echkkk. America will vote “on heart” once again if we can’t find a way to block this guy. At least with Romney, we won’t have to worry about perceptions of the CLintons playing dirty because there is 150% chance of Romney being THE dirtiest pig. period.

    Giuliani proved himself to be a joke. he could’ve nailed florida…perhaps…had he not chosen to nail his adulterating mistress in her NY home while using NYC’s money.

    and btw, Obama’s a joke. This guy will never get elected to president if he keeps using this message…and I’m thinking ahead…even to 2016 and beyond.

  • nikki22

    But Anderson, how can Hillary unite the republican base? Obama’s got the momentum right? Hell Teddy Kennedy’s gonna deliver the hispanic vote & erase the double digit leads HRC’s had all year, isn’t he? (Laughing hysterically!!!)

  • TeamClinton08

    If the trends continue the only states that Obama can win are states with a large percentage of A.A.

  • Jaz

    What Hill saying on cnn?

  • LJ

    did anybody see that guy mimicing clinton’s head movements behind wolf?

  • reed061

    I am so proud of my state and so proud of our girl, HILLARY!

    On a side note:

    My Uncle is a moderate Republican, however we both got a good laugh out of Rudy’s showing tonight! Also, he told me that Hillary is going to be a tough candidate in the general election and that tonight’s results show that Obama should be worrying about next Tuesday. :)

  • plural

    I have no desire to hug McCain. He gives me the creeps.

  • AmericanGal

    Here’s the 3rd reason given by Obama for his SOTU Hillary snub..

    “To reporters on his press plane, Obama said he really just didn’t see Sen. Clinton intending to say hello to him and meant no disrespect.”

    marcambinder.theatlantic.com/

  • Tareli

    I’m watching Hannity & Colmes and that fat fuck toe sucker Dick Morris said that the last minute voters broke evenly for Hillary and Obama and he said that means that Obama is gaining in momentum. I just laughed. He hates Hillary so much and wants her to lose. He’s another one who is drinking the Obama Kool-aid.

    Hillary on Fox right now!

  • Blue Democrat

    New Poll: HRC by 11 in Tennessee

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Tennessee_Release_012908.pdf

    Obama trailing 22-50 among white voters……

  • TeamClinton08

    Obama killed his chances when he started that whole race baiting crap. Before that he was doing well with whites and women. That was a mortal self-inflicted wound to his campaign.

  • Just got off the phone from calling Oklahoma for the Hill campaign. Two hours here. Interestingly, most were undecided voters. More hangups than I am used to having (compared to California, Nevada, New Hampshire), but still many Hillary voters. Not one, not *one* Obama vote during my time. I encourage everyone to make calls, it is very rewarding.

  • AmericanGal, that is the 4th reason.

  • Paula

    She’s bypassing MSNBC, lol. Idiots never even posted Dem results.

  • MJS

    TeamClinton, he thought that that was necessary to win SC! Well, he succeeded in doing that…there’s just the question of HOW TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE BACK? lol

  • Paula

    Tareli, Your Dick Morris description had me LMAO.

  • Blue Democrat

    hehehehe, Chris Wallace tried to sandbag Hillary with those “late decider” numbers, saying they broke evenly and it must mean Obama is “closing the gap”.

    Hillary answered she only pays attention to final numbers, and they were “overwhelming”.

  • OandrewD

    800,000 people today said We Want Hillary
    insignificant?

  • Jaz

    Umm..how is she doing so many interviews so quickly?

  • Brazil said on CNN that the delegates for FL and MI will be probably be seated once the state party determines how to select delegates. She mentioned a caucus. Screw that!!

  • “The Snub” on Fox…interesting question…..Hill says, “Chris, I reached out my hand in friendship and am still reaching out, what’s important here is (democrats versus republicans) and party unity, et al”.

  • Paula

    She deftly answered the snub question.

  • Paula

    Jaz, The CNN and Fox ones were back to back.

  • Idunn

    Brilliant answer to the classless snub. You go, Hill!!!

  • The CNN interview was good, the Fox one was great.

  • Blue Democrat

    Jaz,
    Hillary’s in one place; the network’s grab a single camera feed off of satellite.

  • hawk

    That was a great answer.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    Giuliani endorses McCain tomorrow. Romney still win the nomination. Romney can BUY the nomination. He has much more money than McCain. He can spend an extra $20-40 million of his own money while McCain is supposedly going broke.

  • They were different interviews though. Same camera.

  • HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter

    I meant Romney CAN still win the nomination. It will be tougher for him though with Giuliani and possibly and Schwarzenegger endorsement (though I think he will endorse Obama because he’s married to a Kennedy).

  • OMG, Chris Matthews smirking.

  • TheRealist

    This is a big win and yet there are still worry-warts and nervous nellies who just can’t seem to enjoy something even when it’s happening.

    This is the TEMPLATE for next week. He’ll get about 30-35% of the vote in most states less or more in the others. He’ll even win a few, but he can’t deliver the typical democratic demographic, worse, his demographic (young people) is the LEAST reliable on election day. His proven inability to win the Hispanic vote, the white vote, the over 40 vote, and the FEMALE vote should be as calming as a couple of Margaritas to your souls. We’ll be up somewhere between 350-550 delegates, and we’ll gather SD’s like moths to the flame.

    Also, his financials come out by Friday at the latest, and the scuttlebutt is that it paints an ugly picture of a campaign under intense pressure to raise funds at an accelerated pace to keep up with the hemorrhaging of his bank account.

    Enjoy tonight and bask in the glow of defeating BO, JE, and the entire united force of BM to score an HISTORIC victory in the FL primary. We will be slighted, slandered and treated sarcastically by BM this week as they fire every last arrow in their quiver at Hillary and her campaign. Let me say that I was wrong about boycotting MSNBC, as their, “coverage”, of tonights results made my blood boil, and then run cold. Olbermann is no longer on my tivo, and MSNBC will only get my viewership next Tuesday night, when they have to eat crow all night long.

  • Tareli

    She handled that question beautifully, that and the question about the Kennedy endorsement. She’s a real class act!

  • rigso

    I missed CNN and Fox NO!! can someone be kind enought to tell me any highlights?

  • JAS

    I feel good about next Tuesday. Hilliary needs to stay on message about the economy (poor obama has no chance with that topic). She needs to get as maney interview as possible (they are free), and yes that means going on MSNBC, I say kill’em with kindness, the more she does this the better she looks. GO HILLARY!

  • TeamClinton08

    Good look getting those voters back in 7 days LOL!

  • CJ

    i hope she is thinking in her head you dumba==with tweety