A Face In The Crowd

Update II: REZKO Arrested
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Update: For the poll conscious – Wall Street Journal reports:

The Illinois senator trails Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York by large margins in polls in most of the big states voting Feb. 5. And he lacks the time or resources to campaign intensively in many of those far-flung races to close the gaps. [snip]

Among the major Super Tuesday contests, Mrs. Clinton has wide — in some cases double-digit — polling leads in California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Arizona, Missouri and Alabama. Mr. Obama leads in his home state of Illinois and in Georgia.

The demographics in many of those states also seem to play more to Mrs. Clinton’s strengths, with big populations of Latinos and white women, groups that helped carry her to victory over Mr. Obama in New Hampshire and Nevada. [snip]

The sheer diversity of the states in play — racially, regionally, geographically — means that no candidate will have the cash or the leisure to engage in anything approaching the old-fashioned whistle-stop campaigning that has defined the races in most states so far. Mr. Obama had more than three weeks to build on his Iowa victory to chip away at Mrs. Clinton’s lead in South Carolina and ultimately to overwhelm her. That will be much harder over the coming week.

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Hillary remains focused on the job that needs to be done. Hillary Clinton will be in the Senate today to vote “No” on cloture on the FISA bill (approximately 4:30 p.m.).

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Hillary is also scheduled to be in Springfield, Massachusetts today.

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend:

“I respect Caroline and Teddy’s decision but I have made a different choice. While I admire Senator Obama greatly, I have known Hillary Clinton for over 25 years and have seen first hand how she gets results. As a woman, leader, and person of deep convictions, I believe Hillary Clinton would make the best possible choice for president. She shares so many of the concerns of my father. Hillary has spent a lifetime speaking out on behalf of the powerless and working to alleviate poverty, in our country and around the world. I have seen her work up close and know she will be a great President. At this moment when so much is at stake at home and overseas, I urge our fellow Americans to support Hillary Clinton. That is why my brother Bobby, my sister Kerry, and I are supporting Hillary Clinton.”

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We’ve been wondering for a while now why Obama has said so little about his “community organizer” days. Where are the testimonials from people Obama supposedly helped? We know practically nothing about Obama, other than what he has written himself – and that is in many respects crafted, bogus, fiction.

We have specifically wondered about Obama’s Chicago constituents – Obama obviously could not get testimonials from his constituents in Chicago – Not the ones who froze in winter.

We’ve suggested repeatedly that Big Media interview Obama constituents, especially the tenants Obama represented as a state senator – the ones who lived in the Rezko owned buildings Obama knew so much about.

Finally a Big Media outlet, from across the sea, has taken up our suggestion. It’s not a pretty story:

Barack Obama and Joann Larkins live less than a mile apart in Chicago’s predominantly black South Side, but they inhabit very different worlds.

What connects her squalid flat and his colonnaded mansion is Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the former Obama donor and friend, who goes on trial for corruption next month – and was denounced as a “slum landlord” by Hillary Clinton in a dramatic and bitter exchange during last week’s Democratic presidential debate.

Mr Obama’s past ties to the Syrian-born property developer, a well-known figure in Chicago politics for his financial largesse, have prompted new questions about the sound political judgement and clean ethics that he touts in his run for the White House.

The charges against Mr Rezko include one that he donated $10,000 (£5,050) to an unnamed political candidate from kickbacks allegedly taken from state contracts. The recipient is reported by Chicago media to have been an unknowing Mr Obama.

“Community Organizer” Obama is nice and warm in his mansion. Mrs. Larkins recalls the Chicago cold:

Separately, in 2005, Mr Obama, 46, struck a property deal with Mr Rezko’s wife, Rita, despite the fact that her husband was already under criminal investigation. Mrs Rezko bought an empty plot next to the Obamas’ $1.65 million home in the affluent enclave of Hyde Park, and later sold the Obamas some of the land so that they could enlarge their plot – a deal that the Illinois senator has since admitted was “bone-headed”.

Mrs Larkins, 51, lives just seven city blocks away, in a district where posters advertise “dirt cheap properties” and “foreclosure advice”. She moved there almost a decade ago, taking a subsidised apartment with her 20-year-old daughter and one-year-old grandson in a building that had fallen into neglect when run by Mr Rezko.

The family boiled water on the stove and draped plastic sheeting across the windows in an effort to keep warm during the city’s bitter winters, as the heating was not working. Rubbish piled up uncollected and repeated requests for basic repairs were ignored.

It was a terrible place to live: there were a lot of drug dealers and people fighting and getting shot,” Mrs Larkins, a widow who receives invalidity benefit, told The Sunday Telegraph.

“The owners never took any interest in the place; they just wanted the rent money. We had to call the city just to get the garbage collected.”

Obama’s long time friend and patron tormented Obama’s constituents. No one cared.

The 44-apartment complex was one of 30 low-income housing projects run by Mr Rezko and his partners with funds from the city during the 1990s. By early this decade, many were boarded up as bills and mortgage payments went unpaid, but Mr Rezko moved into the fast-food business, while tenants like the Larkins struggled with the legacy of his management.

Mr Rezko was also one of the first to spot the skills of Mr Obama, offering the then Harvard law graduate a job in 1991 and becoming an early financial supporter of the new state legislator, whose inner-city constituency incl­uded 11 of his housing projects.

Although Mr Obama makes much of his roots as a community activist in Chicago’s poorest districts, he has said he had “no inkling” that there were problems with Mr Rezko’s operations. But the signs should have been easy to spot, according to John Bartlett, of the Chicago-based Metropolitan Tenants’ Association.

“The problems with Rezko were far from hidden. They were so bad that the city has had to take him to court. Anyone who wanted to look into Rezko’s activities could have learned about them,” he said.

The failure of state senator Obama, to care, to protect his constituents, is masked once again with flowery words – Mrs. Larkins be damned:

Mr Obama has recently said that he “wasn’t particularly knowledgeable” about Mr Rezko’s activities. Asked if he should have investigated his donor’s businesses, Bill Burton, Mr Obama’s spokesman, said: “The senator has a long record of successfully fighting to reform ethics and diminish the role of money in politics.”

Maybe Mrs. Larkins will provide the names of other tenants so they can tell their neglected stories to Obama, via Big Media.

Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times meanwhile, critiqued Obama’s appearance on ABC Sunday morning. Excerpts with Lynn Sweet analysis in parentheses:

Obama was told by the host, “One more time, Senator, you need to divulge all there is to know about that (Rezko) relationship. Take that opportunity here.”

Obama replied, “ Well, George, this is a story that has been out there for a year, and has been thoroughly gnawed on by the press, both in Chicago and nationally. “

(actually, it is not one story but an ongoing series of stories by the Sun-Times and Tribune, exploring the depths of the ties between the two men.)

“Tony Rezko was a friend of mine, a supporter, who I’ve known for 20 years. He was a contributor not just myself but Democrats, as well as some Republicans, throughout Illinois. Everybody perceived him as a businessman and developer.”

(earlier in the week in network interviews, Obama made it seem like he hardly knew Rezko.)

“ He got into trouble that was completely unrelated to me. And nobody has suggested that I have been involved in any of those problems. I did make a mistake by purchasing a small strip of property from him, at a time where, at that point, he was under thecloud of a potential investigation.

(Obama obscures the larger point that the strip was adjacent to his house and bought at the same time in a deal that seemed connected and gave Obama a financial advantage.)

“And I’ve acknowledged that that was a mistake. But again, nobody has suggested any wrongdoing. And you know, I think, at this point, it’s important for people to recognize that I have actually provided all the information that’s out there about it.

(Actually, last week I asked an Obama spokesman information about Rezko’s fund-raising activities for Obama and could not get a straight answer.)

Maybe Lynn Sweet and other reporters willl get some straight answers from Obama endorsers. Maybe, but for Obama the Chicago poor are out of political fashion.

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605 thoughts on “A Face In The Crowd

  1. Admin, the Rezko case is far deeper than this. Everyone has just barely scratched the surface of Obama’s ties to REzko.

  2. From the sound of things, the Bushies and their minions are getting behind Mitt Romney.
    Just from listening to the likes of Monica Crowley and a few of the stiffs on the WSJ shows on FOX & PBS, as well as those strategically placed everywhere in our political media, it seems that way.
    Thought it would Romney since last year, not that I’m any kind of genius.

    MJS, keep it comin’, please.

  3. MJS, that may be but let’s keep speculation down to the facts that are known. There is plenty already known that needs to be digested and new information is coming to the fore. What is already known is damaging enough.

  4. ok guys, I am going to go to bed as I have school tomorrow.
    I will pop back in intermittently throughout the week if I have new information or if anything changes.

  5. bluedemocrat.. mitt romney is their candidate.. mccain will fade IMO. the entire republican establishment is routing for Romney to beat Mccain. Romney+Huckabee is their ticket.

  6. gladiatorstail, I agree. Romney/Huckabee will be the R ticket. I pegged that months ago, and still maintain it.

  7. Mort Zuckerman publisher, NY Daily News (& I believe U.S. World Report) paraphrasing, on Rezko: “Just a Clinton smear!”

    Nice newspaper man! Keep feeding the people those front page Heath Leger & Brittany stories, that’ll gett’em better health care!

    gladiatorstail, think you’re right. I know Romney’s hired some of the nastiest (political) hit men in the business.

    It’s going to be fun watching Hillary beat his ass.

  8. blue democrat.. dont under estimate romney. he is a chameleon. he is a MA liberal in sheeps clothes and he is winning in republican contests. Thats how effective he is. his podium for winning is economy. people will trust him because he an an extremely successful businessman. it should be fun. for now, we gotta beat this empty rhetoric obama.

  9. gladiatorstail Says:

    January 28th, 2008 at 1:13 am
    lol@skmf.. we all love you!
    me too ….we all want her to win…so we protect her too..from nasty dirt things in politics..

    that sad rjk..but its reality,i feel sorry for them,especially for what they do for us..i respect them to total heaven to keep us safe..and hillary wins i will sleep much better..knowing she is running the Country..

  10. gladiatorstail Says:

    January 28th, 2008 at 12:52 am
    admin, you might wanna give a quick read at some of MJS posts on previous thread and then delete them. They are interesting to say the least!true.. and reporters get up at 3 or so and im sure some come here…before news day mon..

  11. Was MJS the one that did that ignorant call thing that got picked up on MyDD?

    You know, the user mj has the right attitude. If you don’t like what someone is saying denounce it. It’s admin’s Website and admin can do whatever admin wants as far deleting comments. But, you can still denounce something and let people know that the general consenus of users on this site do not agree with something. It wouldn’t even matter if admin was a Mitt Romney operative (not claiming, but trying to prove a point), he or she would still be providing a great service nonetheless for all of us to interact and share links etc. It is admin’s work and ability to draw readers that exhibits any sort of real power among us.

    On another note, I LOVE reading B. Merryfield and hope she/ he starts a Website of her or his own. Perhaps, an alternative to Fluffington Post (e.g., the B. Merryfield Post.) Anyone with me on that?

  12. lol@kymarket.. b.merry is one of the serious citizen journalists I have come across. very comprehensive and thorough in reporting.. and she is passionate which is the best of it all!

  13. Excellent posting admin! It’s good to see that some media outlets, albeit right pondish in this instance, take their investigative role seriously. Now, if only Big Media could be inspired.

    Alas, I dare to dream…

  14. Barbara Boxer will apparently support Hillary. Says Carl Hulse in NYT:


    An aide to Senator Barbara Boxer of California said Ms. Boxer would cast her superdelegate vote for the winner of the California primary on Feb. 5.

    Thank you Barbara. You won’t be alone as Hillary holds a very comfortable lead among superdelegates:


    According to a recent telephone survey of superdelegates by The New York Times and CBS News, about one-third have expressed no preference in the 2008 race, about 25 percent support Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and about 10 percent favor Senator Barack Obama. The remainder did not return calls or refused to comment.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/us/politics/28superdelegates.html

  15. RJK “If anything shows why we need Hillary these clips do.”

    Thank you for those clips. I sent them to friends and family. Really brings things into perspective.

  16. We posted this poll analysis as an update. Wall Street Journal reports (lots more on Kennedy and other factors in the story):

    The Illinois senator trails Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York by large margins in polls in most of the big states voting Feb. 5. And he lacks the time or resources to campaign intensively in many of those far-flung races to close the gaps. [snip]

    Among the major Super Tuesday contests, Mrs. Clinton has wide — in some cases double-digit — polling leads in California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Arizona, Missouri and Alabama. Mr. Obama leads in his home state of Illinois and in Georgia.

    The demographics in many of those states also seem to play more to Mrs. Clinton’s strengths, with big populations of Latinos and white women, groups that helped carry her to victory over Mr. Obama in New Hampshire and Nevada. [snip]

    The sheer diversity of the states in play — racially, regionally, geographically — means that no candidate will have the cash or the leisure to engage in anything approaching the old-fashioned whistle-stop campaigning that has defined the races in most states so far. Mr. Obama had more than three weeks to build on his Iowa victory to chip away at Mrs. Clinton’s lead in South Carolina and ultimately to overwhelm her. That will be much harder over the coming week.

  17. I thought some of what MJS said seemed pretty relevant and I’m hoping this blows up in Obama’s face. I only hope that MJS is right that we only touched the surface of Obama’s relationship with Rezco. This can seriously damage his campaign. This is a man endorsed by the Kennedy family and is being compared to MLK and JFK. Those are very large shoes to fill and I’m kinda glad the media is building him up like this because someone as horrible as the Rezko story can completely destroy his image if new information surfaces. Cross your fingers, people. I wonder if this keeps Obama up at night. I know I’d be really worried if I did something wrong and knew that it could come up at anytime to ruin my career and everything I’ve worked for.

  18. um barack u said in sept that u will seat the fla delegates-
    www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/30/obama-vows-do-whats-right/?news-breaking

  19. I would like to see RFK Jr. write an essay for the NYT entitled “A President like my father would have been.”

  20. Brace for this woman to give her endorsement of BHO after her increase in national awareness:

    http://www.kansas.com/196/story/282667.html

    I encourage my Kansas friends to write letters to the editor and to the Governor asking her to stand with all women to make history by electing the first woman to win a national primary as the first woman president. I would title it: “Don’t Tell Women We Have to Wait Our Turn.”

  21. I heard a very interesting point made to me today by someone quite high up. That it is being touted that the reason that Ted Kennedy is backing Obama is that he does not want the Clintons to take the Default Democratic family name from the Kennedy’s as the top name in the party history.

    Apparently Ted is not pleased that they get the chance to have 2 Presidents in the family and the Kennedy’s did’nt.

    I mean if that is true, its a bloody nasty way of doing things.

  22. Morning all!

    Love that HRC is coming to Florida, just don’t know where yet. If its Tampa, I hope to see her.

    BTW, anyone know where I can get a delegate estimate after Super Tuesday for HRC, I think its above 2025 (that magic number).

    Thanks texan4hillary, I do hope BO gets called on that flip flop on Florida delegates.

  23. rjk1957

    Thank you for the lifeline clips. If you have been on here for any time at all, you will know I share your sentiments re: the need for Hill’s strong hand in this misguided mess we are in.

  24. BlueDem

    For what it’s worth, Mort Zuckerman and Gloria Steinem were an “item” for a very long time many years ago.

  25. goodmorning hillfans. in few hours im heading to hartford,ct to a hillary rally at around 9:30am to 11am. im gonna try to get a good pic of her. i live only several minutes away from the site.

  26. terrondt

    thanks for attending and supporting our girl at the rally in hartford today. get lot’s of good pics and, don’t forget, you are a married man!! 🙂

  27. Florida really is the next “big deal” in this campaign, and it’s getting coverage by the media. The article linked below gives more detail about what is happening in that state. That includes Hillary’s visits there and the activities there on her behalf.

    It also tells what BHO’s people have been doing. Part of their doings include a lot of whining about what Hillary is doing. On Saturday night outside a place where a lot of Obamalamadingdongs had gathered to celebrate his SC victory was a life-size cardboard cutout of BHO. It probably had more substance than the candidate himself.

    Hillary has not broken her pledge about not campaigning in that state, but her opponent’s supporters are wringing their hands. She is handling this situation beautifully, and she is taking full advantage of the opportunity while staying within bounds. I like it!

    columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/01/28/FLA28.ART_ART_01-28-08_A1_AO96BHC.html?sid=101

  28. Sherm Kader thanks for the article. Obamabots are such whinners. I have never seen such over the top fans before. Their reasonings are so absurd I always have to ask myself what planet they are from. Where were they when Obama was running ads in Florida? I loved HRC’s approach and I can’t wait to see her when she gives her victory speech in Florida. Whoever thinks Florida delegates aren’t going to be seated and counted are out of their minds.

  29. A sign of spring? The original contains links.

    http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=03&year=2007
    Cohen’s column and Ron Brownstein’s excellent analysis over the weekend …. the second stage of campaign reporting, which involves a great deal more skepticism and questioning. …. The Hillary 1984 ad flap couldn’t have helped, either. The Obama campaign denied any involvement or association with the video’s producers, but was proved wrong.

  30. It would seem that I get out of the hospital today. I haven’t gotten the final word, but my fingers are crossed.

  31. Pew: Today, half of the public (50%) either identifies as a Democrat or says they lean to the Democratic Party, compared with 35% who align with the GOP.

    So — we’re supposed to dump our known winners and reach out to GOP and Independents?

  32. Good morning, Hillfans. Been lurking in and out and gathering up latest Rezbama news.

    If a picture is worth a thousand words, this one is — note that it’s from 2007:

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/kennedy-to-endorse-obama/

  33. Morning all! A little off topic but….something that occurred to me this morning concerning the superdelegates (just a hypothetical). There have been some articles recently examining the possibility that they will be the main factor in determining the nominee if no one gets a majority of delegates. If it comes to a point where they will be deciding the nominee doesn’t that happen at the convention? By that time the Rezko trial will be full underway. I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere in these discussions. It would seem to me that it gives Hillary an advantage don’t you think?

    Overall I think that Hillary will win enough delegates on Feb 5 for the nomination but I just ws thinking about this because, of course, everyone in the media thinks everything has an Obama adavantage..

  34. If she wins the popular vote and has more votes overall, does that mean they are more likely to vote for her…

  35. Also of note this morning is the fact that Rezbama’s This Week interview with GS is posted on ABC’s website … with the exception that it has been edited at the end to eliminate the exchange about Rezko.

    If anyone has the YouTube link for that segment, please let me know so that I can add it to the RWblog.

    Thanks.

  36. Thanks bmerry,

    What a poster for the repubs in a GE! Over the last 40 years, nobody has motivated them like Ted Kennedy.

  37. The longer Obama is dragging our the endorsement – the less impact it makes. As it is, any excitement has already fizzled out and when Ted Kennedy finally endorses, I don’t think it would have the impact that they would have desired – too close to Super Tuesday. The best scenario for him would have been a speedy endorsement and a strong attack on strongholds in CA and NY and MA where that endorsement would have a chance of making any inroads for him. I don’t see a substantial boost coming even by that scenario but the way they’re dragging it out now, I don’t see any boost for them at all.

  38. B.Merry… Real clear politics has youtube video part=3 of it has REZCO part of the interview. I down loaded. Check it !!

  39. I think the media overplay kennedy’s voice. as a matter of fact, his voice will turn a lot of people off democrat party.

  40. Craig Crawford Trail mix:

    Did Democratic whiners just get Hillary Rodham Clinton’s answer to complaints about her hard-nosed campaign style?

    “I am a gutterball bowler,” the New York senator said tonight in Florida, according to a Miami Herald blogger. The reporter could not ascertain the actual context of Clinton’s remark to a well-wisher at a bowling alley, the Lucky Strike Lanes on Miami Beach.

    Florida? That’s right, Clinton is in the state that Democrats are supposedly ignoring for its primary on Tuesday. She’s exploiting a loophole in the campaign ban that allows fundraising — but still pseudo-campaigning with the occasional photo opportunity on this final weekend before an expected one million Democrats go to the polls.

    Clinton’s main rival, Barack Obama, can’t complain. He is running television commercials on cable news networks that reach six million Florida homes, but claims no violation of the rules on the grounds that the cable companies could not delete Florida from his nationwide buy.

    Here is my transcript of the Obama ad seen on Florida cable outlets for the past week:

  41. I have like 3 parties to attend on the night of February 5th; one with the UDEMS, one with the GLBTAU, and one with the former Hillary people still here in Iowa City. That is going to be a fun night.

  42. Clinton schedule for today…..

    *all times Eastern

    Monday, January 28

    9:30 am
    Hillary Clinton holds a town hall meeting on the economy in Hartford, Connecticut

    11:30 am
    Hillary Clinton holds a town hall meeting on the economy in Springfield, Massachusetts

  43. RCP averages show Hillary leading in CA by more than 12 points. However, it can be shown that wide gaps in the polls tend to shrink as election day draws near. Hillary also has a wide lead in the Latino vote there, but an article in the SF Chron shows how and why Obama thinks he can make deep inroads into that lead. It’s worth a look:

    sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/28/MNH1UL57Q.DTL&type=politics

  44. Big Tent Democrat writes at TalkLeft about Toni Morrison endorsing Rezbama:

    This is a double edged sword for Obama imo. The Media will love it as they will see it as a rebuke to the Clintons. It will get a lot of play.

    The downside is EVERY story will focus on Morrison’s “first Black President” remark. NOT exactly the focus Obama would want it seems to me. If I was on Obama’s team, I wonder if they might have wanted to not have this one AT THIS TIME. But what do I know?

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/1/28/9752/19999

  45. Morning Joke and Mika just reported that Tony Rezko was just arrested for bail violations. They said “…who has been linked to Obama and the Clintons”… someone need to get out a statement (again) PDQ that Rez has NEVER been involved with the Clintons, more than anyone else who buys a general admission ticket to someone’s fundraiser. Is there NO limit to BM’s lies and spin?

    Gotta go – Pat B. is talking.

    Good morning, all – gotta go to work!

  46. CD99, I agree. As is every time BM spends time spinning the Kennedy vs Kennedy endorsements. Most people have no idea which belongs to whom. In the Northeast in particular, and among those who remember, Chappaquidick sting has a nasty ring to it.

  47. B. Merryfield, when I read that, I immediately thought of you. I was like, no need to link the story because B. Merryfield is surely going to be on it like white on rice. Voila, before I could even refresh the page, there you are lol.

  48. Kingsgrove, that will be so funny. I am crossing my fingers and toes that they will both be asked to comments.

  49. I hope that this visit in Mass. gets a lot of coverage. See article below. Also, I’m in Fl and I can tell you that there is interest in Hillary coming here Tuesday. I was just listening to the local morning radio talk show and they were talking about it to Carl Cameron of Faux News for quite a bit before moving on to Mitt and McCain. The national news I think will be forced to carry it. I just heard that yesterday, after she walked into the Lucky Lane or Stripes or whereever the fundraiser was in Miami, the Mayor of Miami came outside, walked up to the podium and endorsed Hillary in english and SPANISH. Miami is in Dade county and I believe it has over 2mill people there, it is very urban aka New yorkish with lots of Cubans, Haitians and other immigrants. I bet you that was broadcast on the news down there. Not to worry, FL looks to really , really be going our way.

    I hope she gives a rousing speech and tell the voters of Fl that she hears them and that whoever said that 1.3million people doesn’t matter and is just a beauty contest is justwrong. You matter and you matter to me and I came here just to thank you. That would force Obambi and Edwards in a box.

    *****************
    Here is the other article:
    By CBS 3 Springfield News
    Watch The Story Hillary Clinton will be in Springfield Monday to speak at Springfield College. She’s also hoping to drum up some votes.

    Clinton just lost the South Carolina Democratic primary to Senator Barack Obama. She’s coming to New England to speak to her supporters in the region. Congressman Richard Neal says he has been pressing her campaign to make a stop in Springfield for months. He hopes that Monday’s frum will help Clinton connect with area voters.

    “You have an opportunity here, I hope, to see the next president of the United States and she is imminently qualified, and she will take questions and field questions, and she will outline many proposals and I think that’s part of the vetting process that we embrace for our presidential candidates,” says Representative Neal.

    Clinton will appear at Springfield College Monday at 11:30a.m. In the Blake Arena. The event is open to the public.

    CBS 3 Springfield will have complete coverage of Hillary Clinton’s visit to the City of Homes starting on CBS 3 Springfield News at 6:00.

  50. * Very interesting interview with Hillary from New York Magazine. It’s NEW.

    The Test
    Inside the Clinton and Obama war rooms, they’ve spent months preparing for Super Tuesday by shaping and reshaping two candidates with similar politics — but very different worldviews.

    By John Heilemann
    Published Jan 27, 2008

    The tableau on Odell Clark Place in Harlem two Sunday afternoons ago looked like a scene lifted straight from a Spike Lee movie—assuming the movie was an updated, uptown hybrid of All the King’s Men and TheBonfire of the Vanities. On the south side of the street, in front of the fabled Abyssinian Baptist Church, the Reverend Dr. Calvin O. Butts III, in a dapper gray homburg and two-tone topcoat, posed before a swarm of cameramen and beside Hillary Clinton, whose presidential bid he was endeavoring to endorse. What made this an act of some difficulty was the lusty chanting of the sign-toting crowd that had gathered across the road, undeterred by the subfreezing temperature, to offer an endorsement of its own: “O-Bam-A! O-Bam-A! O-BAM-A!”

    As Butts gamely struggled to make his finely honed phrases heard above the din, Clinton stood by, grinning from ear to ear. When he finished, she offered some words of her own and even (as is her wont these days) took a few questions from the press; the frigid air made them, for once, unaggrieved at the brevity of the “avail.” Through it all, the chanters kept on chanting, but Clinton was unfazed. In fact, she ambled across the street and delivered hot coffee to the protesters, rendering them, finally, mute.

    A few minutes later, I met Clinton back inside the church. Although she’d arrived in New York from Las Vegas that morning at around 3 a.m., the senator was chipper—and no wonder. The day before, she had won the Nevada caucuses, giving her a second consecutive victory over Barack Obama in a state where a loss seemed imminent. But the Nevada campaign had been a surpassingly ugly affair, one that commenced with yet another Clinton backer, BET founder Robert Johnson, obliquely raising Obama’s teenage drug use, continued with a Spanish-language radio ad by a pro-Obama group asserting that Clinton “does not respect our people,” and ended with accusations from both sides of voter intimidation and vote suppression. Suddenly, the specter of a Democratic nominating contest riven by identity politics hung heavy in the air.

    Clinton insisted that she did not want the campaign “to be about race or gender.” But in the next breath, she assailed her rival’s operation for indulging in scurrilous racial politics repeatedly—citing the memo it sent out last year that labeled her as “Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)”—and with impunity. When I asked Clinton if she was worried that the conduct of her own campaign might alienate black voters, she replied, “This is such a difficult election across the country, and I think we do have an obligation to try and stay above it, to try to contain the feelings. But it’s not inappropriate to say, ‘Look, there’s a lot at stake here.’ If you believe you would be the best president, that you would be the best candidate to win in November, you’re going to get out there and make your case, and you’re going to make it vigorously.”

    [snip]

    Almost a year ago, the top strategists of the big-three Democratic candidates appeared at an event at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. In response to a question from a student about how the Democrats could avoid being Swift-Boated in 2008, Clinton’s chief savant, Mark Penn, argued that his boss had a proven adeptness at hand-to-hand combat against “the Republican machine.” “She knows how they think, she knows how they act, she knows how to defeat them,” Penn maintained. “And I think that experience is absolutely critical to actually winning this White House.”

    Seated across from Penn, Obama’s guru, David Axelrod, mournfully shook his head. “Let me just say that I think our aspirations should be, at the end of the day, not to defeat the Republican machine but to rebuild the American community.” Soon enough, Penn, clearly annoyed by Axelrod’s piety, was contending that the records of Obama and Clinton on Iraq were essentially indistinguishable—which, in turn, brought forth a stern rebuke from Axelrod. “I really think it’s important,” he said, “if we are going to run the kind of campaign that will unify our party and move this country forward, that we do it in an honest way, and that was not an honest tactic.”

    At the time, it was impossible to know that you were witnessing a crystalline preview of the campaign ahead, illuminating the thematic and substantive contrasts the candidates would draw. It also hinted unmistakably at the potential that the race could turn radioactive at the drop of a hat.

    A pollster by trade, the CEO of PR giant Burson-Marsteller by position, Penn is obsessed with carving up the electorate into itty-bitty slices and famous for propounding micro-policies to satisfy their cravings and allay their anxieties. Among many in the Clinton circle, he is regarded with intense suspicion; his feuding with her communications director, Howard Wolfson, and longtime ally Harold Ickes is legendary. “A lot of Clinton people aren’t sure that Penn is really a Democrat—you know, he’s kind of a New York Sun guy,” says one of his clients. “Some of them wouldn’t piss on his head if his hair were on fire.”

    Penn defends himself as a champion of the middle class and argues that, as he put it to me, “small policies can sometimes lead to big changes and promote big ideas.” Having helped engineer Bill Clinton’s reelection in 1996 and both of Hillary’s Senate conquests, he enjoys the abiding trust of both Clintons—an unusual position. And for much of 2007, the campaign that he devised for HRC appeared to be working like a charm. Its fundamental premise was her inevitability. Its tactical aims were focused on presenting Clinton as the Democrat readiest to be president “on day one.” Its strategic goal was to neutralize the question that the campaign regarded as her Achilles’ heel: her gender. As Clinton admitted to me, “I really believed I had to prove in this race from the very beginning that a woman could be president and a woman could be commander-in-chief. I thought that was my primary mission.”

    But in the weeks before the Iowa caucuses, Clinton began to realize she’d made “a fundamental miscalculation,” she said. “I frankly made a wrong assumption about how to present myself to the country.” Thus her late-stage bid to convince the voters of Iowa that she was human after all, an effort embodied in all its absurdity and desperation by her now-infamous “likability tour”—a tour that kicked off just a matter of days after she’d first gone negative on Obama, announcing, “Now the fun part starts.”

    As Clinton was stumbling in Iowa, Obama was on the rise. Far more than Penn, Axelrod, a former Chicago Tribune reporter with thinning hair and a mingy mustache, grasped that the yearning to turn the page would be the central dynamic in 2008—and that this presented an opening for as unconventional a candidate as Obama. Sure, Axelrod allowed, Obama’s CV was meager by traditional standards compared with Clinton’s. But as he explained to me last summer, “The real question is, do we accept this broken paradigm of Democrats and Republicans at each other’s throats? That’s why people are so disillusioned with our politics.”

    Axelrod, who once worked not only for Hillary but for Bill Clinton (the phrase “bridge to the 21st century” from WJC’s 1996 campaign was his confection), first met Obama more than fifteen years ago and has been by his side all throughout his meteoric ascent. Axelrod believed that Obama could be the sort of transformational candidate he described, for a number of reasons. Although many of Obama’s positions were conventionally liberal, his pragmatism and incrementalism placed him outside any old-school ideological box. His signature accomplishments—death-penalty reform in Illinois, ethics reform in Washington—reflected a yen for cross-party cooperation. And in Obama’s post-racialism, the whole Kenyan-Kansan thing, Axelrod discerned the makings of a brand with enormous selling power. “Barack is the personification of his own message for this country,” he told the Times. “That we get past the things that divide us and focus on the things that unite us. He is his own vision.”

    [snip]

    Much has been made of how the press and pollsters missed the signs of Clinton’s rebound in New Hampshire. We misread the impact of her brimming tear ducts, of her debate performance, of all those questions that she took. And, no doubt, Clinton dug deep in the Granite State, calling up reserves of humanity and resilience that we (and perhaps she) had forgotten that she had in her. But equally influential on the outcome of the primary were the god-awful mistakes committed by Obama and his team.

    [snip]

    As a matter of strategy as well as principle, Obama had been at pains to downplay race as a factor in his candidacy. But with his loss in New Hampshire, issues of black and white inserted themselves at the center of the fray. First came the question of whether the variance between the preprimary polls and the outcome meant some white voters had lied to pollsters, though scant evidence exists to buttress that theory. Then there were Clinton’s comments that seemed to privilege LBJ over Martin Luther King Jr. in the advancement of civil rights—comments that, however innocently intended, were taken as blasphemy by many blacks. Most incendiary, though, were the remarks by BET’s Johnson, who not only hinted elliptically at Obama’s dabblings with cocaine as a kid but also likened him to Sidney Poitier in Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.

    I asked Clinton about the troubling pattern of her supporters—in addition to Johnson, there was Billy Shaheen, her erstwhile New Hampshire co-chairman, who suggested that Obama would have to answer whether he’d ever sold drugs, and also Bob Kerrey, who said Obama had attended a “secular madrassa”—launching racially freighted interjections. “Well, it’s been a relatively few instances that I’m aware of,” Clinton responded. “With respect to people we have any control over, we took immediate action. With respect to people we don’t have control over, they both apologized and did so in a timely manner.” I noted that in Michigan, with only Clinton’s name on the ballot, 70 percent of black voters had pulled the lever for “uncommitted” instead of her. Given her and her husband’s storied bond with African-Americans, I wondered if that stung.

    “No, it doesn’t, it doesn’t at all,” she said. Clinton added that she understood why many blacks would choose Obama, given the historic nature of his candidacy. “A lot of people who might not vote for me in a primary will not have the conflict going forward in the general election that they have today. And I guess my strong message to African-American voters is one I think they know and they know I know, which is that it’s okay.”

    Clinton’s supine posture when it comes to the black vote is a curious thing—a sign of either enormous grace or devious calculation.

    [snip]

    On the flight out to Las Vegas, I happened to catch, on my seat-back TV, an interview Clinton had given to Access Hollywood in which she remarked, “They say Ginger Rogers had to do all the same moves as Fred Astaire, except that she had to do them backwards and in heels. Well, that’s kind of how I feel sometimes, too.” Later, I asked Clinton how this squared with her assertion that she didn’t want gender to be injected into the campaign. “It’s part of the background music everywhere,” she answered. “People are going to ask you about it, and it would be foolish to say, well, it’s not worth talking about.” Clinton went on, “I don’t have a claim on anybody’s vote. I’m not even entitled to my mother’s vote.”

    Actually, I said, I think you are entitled to that.

    “Not according to my mother! She was one of the ones I had to get over the commander-in-chief hurdle for!”

    It’s often said that Clinton is much warmer and more spontaneous in private than in public, which is true. Also that she has improved greatly as a campaigner—though even now, her performances from stop to stop on the campaign trail are markedly uneven. But the one consistent element of Clinton on the stump is an unrepentant wonkiness. At a church event in Compton, California, for instance, she discoursed with great fervor on how “green-collar jobs” installing solar panels could be a boon to the inner city. As we sat together at Abyssinian, Clinton still bundled up in the black down coat she’d been wearing outside with Butts, I reminded her of her invocation of Mario Cuomo’s dictum that “You campaign in poetry, but you govern in prose.” For Hillary, however, the distinction seemed not to apply: In both campaigning and governing, prose is all she knows.

    “I think that’s a fair observation,” Clinton said. “Part of it is just who I am, what I’m comfortable with, how I think I best communicate with people … Benjamin Franklin once said, ‘Well-done is better than well-said.’ I’m kind of a well-done person.”

    Does she envy Obama his capacity for soaring rhetoric?

    “No, I don’t, I don’t envy,” she said sharply. “Maybe it’s because of the family I grew up in, maybe it’s because of my faith tradition. Methodists are very, uh, methodical people”—she laughed—“but I judge on what people do. I can get moved and carried away by a great speech like anybody else, and I often have … Words can move us, words can motivate us, words can create movements, all that. But people’s lives don’t change just with words.”

    Hillary believes, to the core of her political being, that what changes people’s lives are government programs. Her command of detail about these is prodigious, at times jaw-slackeningly so. And this often leads journalists to underestimate the effectiveness of her laundry-listy rhetorical métier. At her final speech in New Hampshire, I watched a well-known national columnist walk up to Doug Hattaway, one of her strategists, and mock a portion of her speech in which she promised that she’d do away with the horrendous paperwork involved in applying for college student aid. Hattaway simply shrugged and said, “She probably wouldn’t keep saying it if it didn’t get huge applause everywhere she goes.”

    Clinton’s focus on the quotidian telegraphs to voters her seriousness about issues and tangible deliverables. And this, in turn, may help explain why she is doing so much better among downscale voters than Obama is—along with highlighting one of the core strengths of her candidacy in an ever-worsening economy. According to copious research conducted by Penn, upscale voters tend to focus more on personality and character, while working stiffs focus more on substance and on who will effectively defend their interests. “The eggheads have become the jug-heads,” Penn says, “and the jug-heads have become the eggheads.”

    Clinton put it somewhat differently, but the point was the same. “Most Americans need a president—not everybody, probably not the two of you,” she said with a smile, gesturing to me and her press secretary, Jay Carson. “So you are free to vote however you choose. You can vote on a feeling, you can vote on a speech, you can vote on a debate, you can vote any way you want. But if you’re on the brink of falling out of the middle class, if you’re worried about health care, home foreclosures, and all these other problems, you need a president that you really can believe in and count on to deliver.”

    Clinton didn’t contrast herself with Obama here, but she didn’t need to. The irony is that the rhetoric-versus-reality motif that she is pressing against Obama is nearly identical to the one that Bob Dole employed against Bill Clinton back in 1996: that Clinton was “the talker” and Dole “the doer.” The message didn’t work then, but it appears to be working now—in no small part because this time it’s Clinton, and I don’t mean Hillary, who is making the argument.

    The afternoon before the Nevada caucuses, I drove up from the Strip to North Las Vegas to catch Bill Clinton at a community-center YMCA. Before a tiny crowd but a bank of cameras, Clinton wore an electric-orange tie, and spoke for 30 minutes, then took Q&A, during which he contended that the Culinary Workers Union, which had endorsed Obama, was trying to prevent its members from voting for his wife. “Today, when my daughter and I were wandering through the [Bellagio],” he said, “and all these culinary workers were mobbing us telling us they didn’t care what the union told them to do, they were gonna caucus for Hillary, there was a representative of the organization following along behind us going up to everybody who said that, saying, ‘If you’re not gonna vote for our guy, we’re gonna give you a schedule tomorrow so you can’t be there.’”

    The chances that a union representative intent on engaging in such strong-arming would do it within earshot of Bill Clinton (or Chelsea, as he later claimed) is close to nil. But no matter. A few hours before the caucuses, Clinton had done his job: muddying the waters with an utterly unverifiable story, suggesting that Obama’s supporters had dirty hands when, in fact, it was Hillary’s allies in the local teachers union that had launched a lawsuit to shut down the caucus sites on the Strip within two days after the culinary union announced its endorsement of Obama.

    For much of last year, Clinton’s role in his wife’s campaign was anodyne, limited to putting a fine gloss on her proposals and “35 years of experience” (ahem). But in the past month the former president has taken on the role normally associated with a vice-presidential candidate: pit-bull-in-chief. People often forget what a skilled practitioner of the politics of fear Clinton always has been. His entire 1996 campaign revolved around scaring the elderly senseless with the prospect that the GOP would abolish Medicare. But Clinton’s recent wave of fearmongering and distortions concerning Obama—that to vote for him would be to “roll the dice,” that his antiwar record is a “fairy tale,” that he claimed “Republicans had better ideas than the Democrats the last ten to fifteen years”—has been a vivid reminder of his propensities in this regard, and of their dangers. In recent days, both Ted Kennedy and Rahm Emanuel have pleaded with him privately to tone it down. Many Democrats fret that Clinton’s conduct threatens to divide the party, depressing turnout in the fall, especially among black voters, if Hillary is the nominee. And also to remind the country of an aspect of Clintonism that few wish to see revived.

    But asking the Big Dog to muzzle himself is futility itself—particularly when his outbursts appear to be having the desired effect. On Hillary’s team, WJC unplugged once inspired queasiness bordering on panic. Its attitude now? You go, girl.

    [snip]

    Clinton doesn’t say so quite this bluntly, but she manifestly considers Obama’s outlook woefully naïve. Her view of the culture of Washington is darker, and of transforming it, more skeptical. And while she prefers to speak of achieving change through hard work—to paint herself as the candidate of perspiration as opposed to inspiration—at bottom she conceives of politics as an endless series of skirmishes. “I don’t take anything away from the vision-setting, the raising of hopes and aspirations,” she said. But “sometimes it takes pushing through the opposition, not converting them.”

    [snip]

    Not surprisingly, Hillary believes that her battle-testedness confers on her a clear advantage. “The Republicans aren’t going to give up the White House without a fight,” she says. “And what has worked for them is going after whoever our nominee is—going after, in fact, where the nominee thinks he or she is strong, going after the nominee in a way that sort of turns that person into an alien to big parts of America, right? So is there any doubt in anybody’s mind that will happen to our nominee? And is there any doubt that I have been through this, and much of what they have thrown at me for fifteen, sixteen years has already been discredited?”

    Clinton’s argument has real force. But if she’s correct that the brutally polarized partisan dynamics of Washington are ineradicable, isn’t the logical conclusion that a Clinton restoration would mean four (or eight) more years of the Clinton wars—a perpetual 1998? The thought of it produced a dull throbbing in my temples, and I told her so. “I can understand the feeling,” she said with a laugh. “But, in some ways, psychologically and emotionally, that might be less painful and more short-lived than it would be with someone who’s never been through it. Because it’ll happen. I don’t think I’m saying anything negative, I’m just stating a fact: It will happen.”

    What, dear reader, is your reaction when you hear talk like that? Do you find yourself vigorously nodding your head—or cradling it in your hands? The enthralling campaign playing out now before us has Democrats all over the city and across the country asking such questions and others that they have never contemplated before. The battle between Hillary and Barack has produced plenty of heat, with more to come, no doubt. But it has also generated considerable light, clarifying for many of us that the choice we’ll be making on February 5 isn’t mainly between two sets of policies or even two individuals. It’s between two different ways of looking at the world.

    If you find yourself drawn to the Clinton candidacy, you likely believe that politics is politics, that partisanship isn’t transmutable, that Republicans are for the most part irredeemable. You suspect that talk of transcendence amounts to humming “Kumbaya” past the graveyard. You believe that progress comes only with a fight, and that Clinton is better equipped than Obama (or maybe anyone) to succeed in the poisonous, fractious environment that Washington is now and ever shall be. You ponder the image of Bill as First Laddie and find yourself smiling, not sighing or shrieking.

    If you find yourself swept up in Obamamania, on the other hand, you regard this assessment as sad, defeatist, as a kind of capitulation. You’re perfectly aware that politics is often a dirty business. But you believe it could be a bit cleaner, a bit nobler, a bit more sustaining. You think that paradigm shifts can happen, that the system can be rebooted. Most of all, an attraction to Obama indicates you are, on some level, a romantic. You never had your JFK, your MLK, and you desperately crave one: What you want is to fall in love.

    A vote for Clinton, in other words, is a wager rooted in hard-eyed realism. Her upside may be limited, but so is her downside, because although the ceiling on her putative presidency might be low, the floor beneath it is fairly high. A vote for Obama, as the Big Dog said, is indeed a role of the dice. The risks of his hypothetical presidency are higher, but the potential payoff is greater: He could be the next Jack Kennedy—or the next Jimmy Carter. The gamble here entails both the thrill and the terror of letting yourself dream again.

    Additional reporting by Michelle Dubert.

  51. Kingsgrove, That would be really funny considering that around Obama houseold Tony Rezko is known as Uncle Rezko. Two uncles and all.

  52. I have a little request. If you are going to post an article and the article is really looooooong, just post the link. Makes it easier to navigate. Thanks everyone.

  53. clintondem @ 9:23, yes, I agree. If Hillary can get those delegates seated from FLA, then it will be yet another reason to support her. She works hard to get results, and that’s why republican scum and closeted sexists are scared of her. One day people will see that it takes hard work to get things done in this government. As they say, if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything…

    in Obama’s case, if you use your grandparents’ money and well-connected slum lords, you can get anything. Have we figured out who paid for his private schooling in Hawaii and Harvard? What if Rezko paid for Harvard….wouldn’t that be awful if the GOP during the GE found that out? Oh wait, they won’t because Obama is their golden boy. Dick Lugar molded him and took him on trips to Russia and the former Soviet states to “teach” him about nuclear arms control, of which he just learned about just 2 years ago. Personally, I’m scared of him not being at least experienced enough to keep me safe.

    We saw what happened when a President who had little experience relied on advisors. In the end, it comes down to one person to make decisions. As Bush said, “I’m the decider” …… All I have to say is Exactly!

    Oh boy, we’re headed for disaster if Obama gets in the Oval office. And we’re headed for an economic and human rights (women, lower income people, and gays) meltdown if a republican gets in the Oval office. Oh wait, Obama IS a republican…. I forgot. Some how this reminds me of Michael Steele’s campaign in Maryland. Although he was running as a republican, some bumper stickers supporting him actually said he was a democrat, just to get minority votes.

  54. Good Mornning!!

    Well….. thank God it is the State of the Union, takes away from BO. I think the Kennedy endorcement is important, but, not that important. Some family members said to me yesterday, ” What had Ted done? besides, the bloom is off that rose”. So, that made me feel good. Ted’s endorcement is worth a 24 hr. news cycle (maybe).

  55. I agree with Caroline that some of the articles are too long for posting here, but I have to admit I enjoy them anyway.

    I think I’m beginning to understand BHO’s message a little better. When it comes to Rezko, pushing wrong buttons, and things he wrote about in his book, he has the AUDICITY to HOPE the nice Repugs will have the decency to not mention them. I fear the Repugs are too ignorant to understand that message. I hope he doesn’t become the nominee, but he is in for a political bloodbath if he does.

  56. I just read where BO is in a slight lead over HC in Colorado, 34% to 32% (still in the MOE). Send Bill to Colorado!!

  57. tru2party, I do not believe the media’s honeymoon with BO would last that long. They only want him to get the nomination. I expect them to drop him like a hot potato and nail him with all that would be thrown at him by Repugs. I am sure we would never have to see that day because Hillary would thrash BO on super Tuesday.

  58. Clintondem99: Your so right the regarding the media will drop BO in the GE. I am still wondering when will the Rezko issue see more media coverage??? does anyone know what/if there more to this story (If any)????

  59. What give me a headache is that kind of anti-politics talk.

    Politics is part of democracy — because people disagree and things have to be worked out.

    You want no politics, go to Pootie-Poot’s Russia.

  60. I mean, Obama even said that while in Hawaii, he didn’t really focus on school and just hung around at the beach. HELLO??? That should be a red flag.

    The republicans (Hannity etc) will grill him for that. Believe me, those radio PERSONALITIES will go crazy.

    Romney is already saying the word Hussein so many times on the stump, it makes me sick. Romney is not the best republican candidate, but I believe he will win the nomination. McCain? Well, he deserves it really, but can you see the debates? And at debates? Both of them (Obama and republican candidate) stuttering and stumbling with talking points, trying to outdo each other on Christianity and “values” and I know McCain will try to get the women vote. OMG, please don’t make me suffer through that! Talk about bore-fest.

  61. The video is somewhat superficial, but I guess some will find it appealing. Which story are media outlets propagating?

  62. Terrific article Kingsgrove. This paragraph really stuck out.

    It brought to mind what Infromed in Illinois wrote earlier:

    I don’t think that a Fact Check or a Press Release is going to cut it in this instance. It needs to be framed as exactly what it is. The Republican Machine is firing up its pistons. We all know that the truth doesn’t matter in things like this. People see the picture and hear the names and don’t really pay attention to what is being said unless the tidbit is interesting in a bigger picture.

    It’s odd that Fox is showing its hand this early. It seems odd that they were willing to take a break from their war with MSNBC to take a potshot at Hillary. I guess they just couldn’t resist the red meat that Matt Lauer handed them. Imbeciles!

  63. what happened to Bill Nelson endorsing Hillary today?

    will there or has there been a headline? Everything I see is negativee.

  64. true2party, It is actually much worse some of those rightwing blogs are pedalling such horrible stories I would never want to repeat them here.

  65. if fox is starting to go negative on Hillary now…well, that means they feel she will be the nominee.

    NYT has big huge picture of ted kennedy crew boating with the clintons…what a slam

  66. oops! Looks like I lost my quotes.

    The first one from the article:
    “The Republicans aren’t going to give up the White House without a fight,” she says. “And what has worked for them is going after whoever our nominee is—going after, in fact, where the nominee thinks he or she is strong, going after the nominee in a way that sort of turns that person into an alien to big parts of America, right?”

    the second one from IiI:
    “Morning Joke and Mika just reported that Tony Rezko was just arrested for bail violations. They said “…who has been linked to Obama and the Clintons”… someone need to get out a statement (again) PDQ that Rez has NEVER been involved with the Clintons,”

  67. Good morning everyone! I have been here only for the past few days. I managed to read a series of posts by MJS on Rezko in the previous thread. I also noticed a series of endorsements that the Obama campaign has orchestrated. I just wanted to share a few thoughts:

    a) I know that MJS suggests the prospect of more Rezko disclosures. There may or may not be some more. My view is that our support for Hillary and the belief that she is the best person to be the next president does not rest on that. It rests on the power of our ideas, her experience, beackground, and preparation. As the admin corrcetly pointed out, what we already know about Rezko is bad enough. We will leave it to the media to sort out this mess and we will focus on the positive nature of Hillary’s campaign and the fact that this campaign is about American people, their lives, and their future.

    b) No one knows how these endorsements will shakeout. We don’t need to listen to the media spin that these endorsements are a definite positive. It is just their opinion. There is no empirical evidence that these endorsements matter one way or the other. If anything, people tend to listen more closely to community activists who are closer to their lives. What does it matter to a working class voter in LA, Arizona, or New York what Ted Kennedy or Toni Morrison says? These people are not relevant to their daily lives. These voters are working hard everyday trying to make ends meet and do not have the time to read blogs, editorials, opinion columns, etc. They probably watch very little cable news and get most of their news from local media and newspapers. The people who may be swayed by a Ted Kennedy positively or negatively are people like of us and I don’t think that they are under-informed. I think all these endorsments paint Obama as the “establishment candidate. James Carville said the same thing on GMA this morning.

    c) We know that the establishment media is biased towards Obama. We have known that for at least the past six months. It is sad when we have to turn to FOX News to provide balanced coverage on the Democratic side. We have to get our story out through the local media and try to minimize the negativity in the national media. I think this is what the campaign is doing.

    d) Without Bill Clinton, I don’t think we would have won NH and Nevada. The initial four states were chosen by the DNC to stack the deck against Hillary. We have done well to win 2 out of the first 4 or, more accurately, 3 out of the first 5. Now, they will tactically adjust Bill Cinton’s role. I think his involvement was key to Hillary getting 20% of the AA vote in SC which helped her come second there. The media have unfairly attacked him over the last week. Krugman referred to the newly made-up media rules regarding Bill Clinton in his column this morning.

    I have already contributed to Hillary’s campaign and I will be voting for Hillary today in Illinois in ealry voting.

  68. kennedy endorsement meant to take sting from tommorow in Florida.

    I’d like someone to frame a good answer to give people who are asking why it looks like many democrats are abandoning Hilllary and are falling for this hope will work all problems in the world rhetoric

  69. dot48… Here it is It is supposed to be tomorrow:

    Florida Sen. Bill Nelson plans to endorse Hillary Rodham Clinton, a major gain for the Democratic presidential candidate in a state that’s at odds with the national party over its primary date yet remains a swing state in November’s general election.

    Nelson is slated to make the endorsement on Tuesday, the same day as the primary, according to senior Democrats close to Clinton who spoke on condition of anonymity because the formal announcement was scheduled later in the week.

    Word of the endorsement came on the same day that Clinton called for delegates from Florida and Michigan to be seated at the Democratic National Convention. The national party punished Florida Democrats for scheduling their primary before Feb. 5 by stripping all 210 delegates to the convention

  70. Sorry, dot48, it was my mistake, I think, about Fox. I foolishly thought that Morning Joe was a Fox show when it is an MSNBC show. I stopped watching the cable news channels and am having trouble sorting out where the negative noise is coming from. I’ve hated Fox so long that it has been very difficult for me to bring myself to watching them even if their coverage of Hillary is more fair than MSNBC. At this point, I think they’re all hacks and all my news is coming from the web.

  71. hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=5543

    Hillary gets the endorsements from the American Nurses Association. I feel that this is a more important endorsements than these tic and tac Kennedy’s endorsements coming out left and right. These people actually make differences in peoples lives. Health care is an important issue in this election. HRC is the most qualified to deal with this issue.

  72. Glad to see Hillary seems to have more surrogates on TV, including Carville and Begala. BTW, I totally agree with Carville describing Obama as the establishment candidate. I know Bill has called her the underdog in this race, and I like that.

  73. Comment at Taylor Marsh:

    Rezko is now front and center. On Morning Joe, Mika is holding back Joe, who is saying Rezko is “a wash” because of that picture of him with the Clintons. She’s pointing out that they only took a picture with him while Obama took the cash. Then, a correspondent phoned in from Chicago and told the story as it is: Rezko is solely Obama’s problem because of the contributions and the real estate deal.

    Joe: “You can expect the Republicans will make hay out of this.”

  74. I dont get it at all with BO.

    “yes we can”.

    OK that’s catchy. But yes, we can do what? exactly??

    yes we can. but how?
    Yes we can. but when?
    Yes we can…. and the examples of when you did before are?
    Yes we can… talk, talk talk?

  75. thanks max. It does seem today is not a good headline day for our girl.

    Tomorrow will be all about SOTU address…oh well.

    Nelson endorsement seems odd timed…why wait till tomorrow

  76. According to Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times, the RNC has been circulating video clips on Rezko for months.

  77. I know people have done a timeline of where Hillary and Obama were at, what they were doing, at the same time. But I wonder if anyone has done a timeline that shows them and they’re activities at the same age. Like Hillary at 25 years old and Obama at 25 years old.

    That would be interesting.

  78. a very smart move for Bill Nelson to annoce his endorsement of hillary tomorrow when the people go to the poll.

  79. Lets go Hill!
    FL tomorrow the rest Feb5.

    I have not watched any spin networks since the results of SC and I do not plan to until next tuesday.

  80. Good News:Daily numbers after SC:Rasmussen:

    In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, it’s now Hillary Clinton 39%, Barack Obama 31% and John Edwards 17% (see recent daily numbers). A Rasmussen Reports analysis suggests that something might have changed following Obama’s huge victory in South Carolina. The numbers still favor Clinton but-as every sports fan knows–sometimes the numbers don’t matter.

    01/28/08
    39%
    31%
    17%
    01/28/08

    01/27/08
    40%
    31%
    17%
    01/27/08

    01/26/08
    36%
    33%
    18%
    01/26/08

  81. Merryfield, The Obama supporters will question anything and everything. FBI agents arrest Rezko and what does Hillary have to do with the FBI? They are just crazy.

  82. B Merryfield, I asked earlier what planet the Rezmabots are on? I just don’t understand their thinking nor do I wish to. They are just a bunch of trolls.

  83. Lessons of 1992

    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    Published: January 28, 2008
    It’s starting to feel a bit like 1992 again. A Bush is in the White House, the economy is a mess, and there’s a candidate who, in the view of a number of observers, is running on a message of hope, of moving past partisan differences, that resembles Bill Clinton’s campaign 16 years ago.

    Now, I’m not sure that’s a fair characterization of the 1992 Clinton campaign, which had a strong streak of populism, beginning with a speech in which Mr. Clinton described the 1980s as a “gilded age of greed.” Still, to the extent that Barack Obama 2008 does sound like Bill Clinton 1992, here’s my question: Has everyone forgotten what happened after the 1992 election?

    Let’s review the sad tale, starting with the politics.

    Whatever hopes people might have had that Mr. Clinton would usher in a new era of national unity were quickly dashed. Within just a few months the country was wracked by the bitter partisanship Mr. Obama has decried.

    This bitter partisanship wasn’t the result of anything the Clintons did. Instead, from Day 1 they faced an all-out assault from conservatives determined to use any means at hand to discredit a Democratic president.

    For those who are reaching for their smelling salts because Democratic candidates are saying slightly critical things about each other, it’s worth revisiting those years, simply to get a sense of what dirty politics really looks like.

    No accusation was considered too outlandish: a group supported by Jerry Falwell put out a film suggesting that the Clintons had arranged for the murder of an associate, and The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page repeatedly hinted that Bill Clinton might have been in cahoots with a drug smuggler.

    So what good did Mr. Clinton’s message of inclusiveness do him?

    Meanwhile, though Mr. Clinton may not have run as postpartisan a campaign as legend has it, he did avoid some conflict by being strategically vague about policy. In particular, he promised health care reform, but left the business of producing an actual plan until after the election.

    This turned out to be a disaster. Much has been written about the process by which the Clinton health care plan was put together: it was too secretive, too top-down, too politically tone-deaf. Above all, however, it was too slow. Mr. Clinton didn’t deliver legislation to Congress until Nov. 20, 1993 — by which time the momentum from his electoral victory had evaporated, and opponents had had plenty of time to organize against him.

    The failure of health care reform, in turn, doomed the Clinton presidency to second-rank status. The government was well run (something we’ve learned to appreciate now that we’ve seen what a badly run government looks like), but — as Mr. Obama correctly says — there was no change in the country’s fundamental trajectory.

    So what are the lessons for today’s Democrats?

    First, those who don’t want to nominate Hillary Clinton because they don’t want to return to the nastiness of the 1990s — a sizable group, at least in the punditocracy — are deluding themselves. Any Democrat who makes it to the White House can expect the same treatment: an unending procession of wild charges and fake scandals, dutifully given credence by major media organizations that somehow can’t bring themselves to declare the accusations unequivocally false (at least not on Page 1).

    The point is that while there are valid reasons one might support Mr. Obama over Mrs. Clinton, the desire to avoid unpleasantness isn’t one of them.

    Second, the policy proposals candidates run on matter.

    I have colleagues who tell me that Mr. Obama’s rejection of health insurance mandates — which are an essential element of any workable plan for universal coverage — doesn’t really matter, because by the time health care reform gets through Congress it will be very different from the president’s initial proposal anyway. But this misses the lesson of the Clinton failure: if the next president doesn’t arrive with a plan that is broadly workable in outline, by the time the thing gets fixed the window of opportunity may well have passed.

    My sense is that the fight for the Democratic nomination has gotten terribly off track. The blame is widely shared. Yes, Bill Clinton has been somewhat boorish (though I can’t make sense of the claims that he’s somehow breaking unwritten rules, which seem to have been newly created for the occasion). But many Obama supporters also seem far too ready to demonize their opponents.

    What the Democrats should do is get back to talking about issues — a focus on issues has been the great contribution of John Edwards to this campaign — and about who is best prepared to push their agenda forward. Otherwise, even if a Democrat wins the general election, it will be 1992 all over again. And that would be a bad thing.

  84. JAS, Hilalry will bring real change to Washington. With Obama, they think they can control him. It may also be that these powerful committee chairman do not want a Democratic president. With a Democratic president, power moves to the WH because the president is the leader of the party. With a Republican president, these guys share in the power because they become the leaders of the party.

  85. This is from Caucus– NYtimes political blog

    The Rev. Jesse Jackson said late Sunday that he was not offended by comments on Saturday by former

    President Bill Clinton, who brought up Mr. Jackson’s name in response to a question about Senator Barack Obama.
    Mr. Clinton had noted that Mr. Jackson had won South Carolina in the Democratic contests in 1984 and 1988. Pundits and many in the blogosphere interpreted Mr. Clinton’s mention of Mr. Jackson as an attempt to diminish Mr. Obama — and what would turn out to be his landslide victory Saturday in South Carolina over Senator Hillary Clinton — because Mr. Jackson had not gone on to win the Democratic nomination.
    But Mr. Jackson said he did not see it that way.
    “I don’t read anything negative into Clinton’s observation,” Mr. Jackson said in a phone conversation late Sunday night from India, where he is taking part in

  86. TPS; Thanks for the insight I never thought of that…. the POWER PLAY.

    At the end of the day I beleive all these endorsments (for BO aand HC) do not hold a lot of weight. Just my thought.

  87. fox news had something interesting.. teddy had planned to endorse Obama for past 2 weeks? in addition, the year long strong “friendship” between Obama and Teddy helped teddy make the decision?

  88. Hey, on the Dkos front (i’ve been monitoring it): I noticed that one of the diaries was about “what are you going to do with your tax rebate [economic stimulus] check?”

    A lot of people said they will not get one b/c they make too much money. Some even said that they would send it back or donate it to charity. OMG! Well, maybe they can give it to me!! LOL

    So, are we keeping track? Dkos commenters and writers are 60% men and 60% too rich to get the rebate check. No duh they’re supporting Obama.

  89. If by any chance you thought Halperin was being a square dealer, banish the thought. Now he’s describing Rezbama as “the man from Hawaii” … guess that Illinois thing ain’t working out too well.

    thepage.time.com/

    Scroll down to the triple pic with the Kennedys.

  90. I hate CNN reporting these days (I know, I’ve been harping on it for awhile). Anyway, I went to this place on the web…

    http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form11b.html?2

    Story ideas….this is what I gave them as a story idea…

    “CNN, here is a story idea. How about fair, balanced, and unbiased reporting of the democratic race for president? It is pretty sad when I have to switch from CNN to FOX for unbiased reporting on the democrats. I know this won’t last, FOX will inevitably go back to their old ways, but for now, they have the most balanced and unbiased reporting available. Even when they go back to their old tendencies, they will hate all democrats equally. You are losing viewers like myself. We don’t all love Obama as much as CNN obviously does.”

    hehe……I suggest everyone do this. I know it won’t change anything, but it does feel good.

  91. Hi Everyone,
    I have called Senator Kennedy’s office to voice my disgust at his Obama endorsement, and how disappointed I am that the Senator is going against everything he has stood for all of his life. He is throwing his support to a Chicago crook over a Senate workhorse who has respect from her peers, both Democrats and Republicans. They are getting so many angry calls that they have put on extra people to answer the phones for just this issue. I asked and the woman on the other end of the line said that for the most part the calls are angry calls and people are pissed.
    For anyone who wants to make Ted feel the heat, his numbers are Washington – 1-202-224-4543
    Mass. – 1-617-565-3170. It doesn’t hurt to create a story about how this is divisive as well, when it makes no sense whatsoever that he would endorse Obama over Hillary. His choice, his mistake.
    What do you think he will do when the Rezko story catches the attention of the MSM? That is probably wishful thinking that the Rezko story would actually be looked into by the MSM.

  92. May be we would here this again at Kennedy endorsement:

    “I’m LeBron, baby. I can play on this level. I got some game.”

    — Sen. Barack Obama, quoted in the new book Obama: From Promise to Power by David Mendell, likening himself as NBA star LeBron James as he walked around the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston.

  93. Just spoke with Ted Kennedy’s office in Mass. and they are absolutely flooded with calls. She said that she’d pass on my message and then I asked her how, since she hadn’t asked my name or number. She said they were receiving too many calls and that she was not the only one getting these calls. She put me on hold three or four times. I told her Good!

  94. Merryfield, I am glad to hear about the angry calls to Kennedy. Especially, because this is spontaneous and not orchestrated. That tells me there is a large and deep support for Hillary that the media is ignoring.

  95. Like I said, the Rezbama story is multiplying like fruitflies. Just got alerts from Boston Herald, Illinois GOP, MSN, Chicagoist .. on and on it goes. This will be all you’ll hear on the news tonight since Rezko is back in court this afternoon.

  96. LawSchoolDem:

    thanks for the Paul Krugman article. Im a little less depressed after reading it. I’ve been saying the same thing for months to all my friends ranting about BO. Its no time to have yet another inexperienced person in the WH and WJC is actually a good example of what happens. Remember “dont ask dont tell” started with Republicans trying to pass legislation curtialing his power as commander in Chief on the first day he took office.

    what are people thinking???? BHO will just smile and the republicans will melt away?

    There is no There there.

  97. I do not believe what the media is reporting about kennedy-Bill Clinton conversations regarding endorsement. i believe it is actually BO’s Campaign spin that is being pedalled as fact. They are now bashing Hillary suggesting that she is not a faminist candidate because Bill Clinton overshadowed Hillary.

    It is all BS the cable networks are run by a bunch of A$$ holes

  98. I don’t want to say anything bad about Ted Kennedy. I would have liked for Hillary to get that endorsement. Obama needed it more though because he couldn’t get the endorsement of former President Bill Clinton.

    A GOP friend of mine said of Kennedy’s endorsement: Ted Kennedy keeps his fingers in national politics by endorsing people, but I think the chap oughta quit it. Well, that was a bit strong as well as subtle. He may have a point though, even if it’s ugly.

  99. clintondem99, please don’t watch the cable news for your own sanity. NBC is the Nail Bill Clinton network and National Barack Corporation.

  100. Looks like the US Attorney is starting to apply pressure on Rezko to cop a plea amd cooperate. Maybe a few days in jail and he will start singing…….

  101. TPS and Kaffeen, I agree with you wholeheartedly about misogyny, and I have expressed my wish it could be used in this campaign as effectively as racism has been used. I accept the views of others who say it would backfire, but I still think about it. It’s just one more gripe I have about this weird primary season.

  102. This from CBS…..Rezko mania is descending upon us….

    Since his landslide win in Saturday’s South Carolina primary, Barack Obama has been riding a wave of good press coverage that will continue today when he receives the endorsement of Sen. Edward Kennedy, the Massachusetts liberal icon.

    But the news is not all good for Obama. Antonin “Tony” Rezko, the former Obama fund-raiser Hillary Clinton described as a “slumlord” in a debate last Monday, was arrested this morning on an alleged bond violation, according to the Chicago Tribune. The paper says investigators had become concerned about the movement of some of Rezko’s finances.

  103. I think our campaign should send Bill every where Teddy goes. Thy think they are going to get Hispanics on their side because of Teddy.

  104. Sherm Keder, given that the media doesn’t care about sexism, it would be hard to push the story. But, I think peopel see it and they will make their own judgments. We don’t have to be explicit about it.

  105. That will be funny clintondem99. I just have a funny image of Bill Clinton shadowing Ted Kennedy on his every move.

  106. kaffeen, actually I disagree with you. This is just fortuitous. May be it is karma, fate, or maybe there is fairness in this universe after all. call it what you want, but this has nothing to do with the Clinton campaign. Sometimes lady luck smiles on you and says I will protect you against all this unfairness.

  107. dot48: I think tomorrow is better timed for Nelson’s endorsement. If he were to make it today, it would not even register on the barometer. Today is all about Bambi’s endorsement and SOTU. Tomorrow is a new newscycle and the actual Fl. Primary.

    It will play better tomorrow when the air is clear and all radio talk shows in FL and local news will carry this. I believe that people who are not political junkies like us tend to follow local news closer than national news.

    Tomorrow, his endorsement along with the Mayor of Miami endorsing her in english and spanish, I believe that these two will neutralize any media blizt by bambi and his S.C win. I fully expect her numbers to be over 40% tomorrow and may the good God smile on us and give us 50%, I would even take 45%, plurality of women, beer drinkers and hispanic voters.

  108. From Boston Herald:
    http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/lone_republican/index.php/2008/01/28/kennedy-kiss-of-death/

    “Kennedy kiss of death
    Finally Ted Kennedy, the ultimate profile-in-courage, has endorsed Barack Obama for President. I was waiting for this endorsement before I made up my mind on who to support! No way.

    Does this endorsement matter? Yes, the moonbats in Massachusetts will follow him over the cliff (or better yet off the bridge). However, in the rest of the country Kennedy’s endorsement will serve as a warning that Obama is more liberal/crazy than Hillary. Remember, the rest of the country wonders why we keep re-electing Teddy to the United States Senate. When I teach campaign schools it is the number one question I get. “What is wrong with Massachusetts voters? They keep re-electing Kennedy.”

    The Kennedy endorsement will help Barack in the moonbat primary, but it will be the kiss of death in the General Election if Barack makes it that far.

    Don’t count out the Clintons!”

  109. If I were conspiracy minded, I would point out that the FBI is controlled by the Republicans, not the Clintons, and Rezco being arrested today will be buried by the SOTU.

    But I don’t believe in conspiracies, so ….

  110. It’s not a conspiracy. It is about timing. The Republicans don’t control everything. Billary (and I say that kindly) still has loyal Clinton followers in places that make a difference.

  111. kaffeen, the “timing” is explained in the news articles — something must have been going on with Rezko since he had been moving money around and they nabbed him before that “something” happened. We’ll know more after he goes back to court this afternoon.

  112. Well, that Harold thing worries me. Hillary should be winning MA. I hope voters don’t just vote with Patrick/Kennedy/Kerry.

  113. Hillary will win the nominee without the endorsement of both Teddy kennedy and John Kerry. However, she will have even better chance to win GE without their endorsement.

  114. mj, Hillary is in Massachussets today. Bill Clinton had to come to Teddy and Kerry’s help when they were in trouble in their senate races against Romney and Bill Weld. The spontaneous anger to Teddy’s endorsment tells me that MA voters are not going to follow Kennedy but this is going to paint Obama as the establishment candidate in the rest of the country.

  115. kaffeen, it is ironic and it tells us that the establishment doesn’t believe Obama’s message and feels more secure with him because he is likely to preserve the status quo. Hillary is the true change candidate in this election.

  116. miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/01/janet-reno-endo.html

    Janet Reno endorses Clinton

    Former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, who served in Bill Clinton’s administration, is backing his wife in Tuesday’s presidential primary.

    Reno, who ran for governor in 2002 and served as Miami-Dade State Attorney, is one of Florida’s best-known politicians. “She’s got a large statewide following in Florida,” said Ana Cruz, who leads a volunteer group called Hillary for Florida.

    A Miami Herald poll last week showed that women voters favor Clinton over chief rival Barack Obama, 45 to 21 percent. But Florida’s highest ranking female Democrat, Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink, has stayed neutral in the race.

    “We haven’t stopped pursing her endorsement,” Cruz said.

    Posted by Beth Reinhard at 09:51 AM on January 28, 2008

  117. GT @11:49, you are so correct. It’s priorities. Like, what exactly is hope going to accomplish in this day and age? It’s not like we’re at peace. It’s not like we have a surplus. It’s not like our educational system is great.

    We need solutions and decisions NOW. On day 1. No time for spectacle and honeymoons and press conferences and committee meetings and studying the cost/benefit analysis and celebrations.

    We need solutions like NOW.

  118. miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/01/qpoll-mccain-ti.html

    QPoll: Clinton wallops Barack

    Quinnipiac University’s latest poll shows:

    In the Democratic race, Hillary Clinton has kept a solid lead over Barack Obama and John Edwards. The numbers, respectively: 50-30-12.

    Posted by Marc Caputo at 08:07 AM on January 28, 2008

  119. hillfans, just got back from the hillary rally in hartford and i had a ball. 2 problems though. the place was so packed i was smashed in there like sardine so my back is killing plus legs hurt. man, she looks more pretty in person. i wanted to take pic but my wife’s camera battery power went low. im like wtf then this nice hillfan asked for my email address so she can email some pics of hillary. so nice of her. i gave away one of my hillary buttons to her. took a long time for her to appear. some local state sen spoke before her. then connecticut controller nancy wyman spoke. then attorney general blumenthual spoke who for 22 years championed our rights here in ct. the crowd was so large they had to turn people away. man the secret service was really giving me the eye. like i can hurt a hair on out girls pretty head.lol.

  120. Terron, that sounds fun, except for the secret service. That’s really nice that that woman is going to email you some pics. 🙂

  121. this is crazy… when teddy says good about hillary or edwards.. only white people behind him are clapping.. not african americans.. they are laughing.. are we really that divided?

  122. Hillary conference call today at 4:15 pm et.

    “Please join us today at 4:15pm ET for a campaign update call with Patti Solis Doyle, Campaign Manager and Howard Wolfson, Communications Director.”

    You need to sign up at Hillary’s site to join in…

  123. Great post B….we will be seeing more of this…

    Obama’s staff declined to help.

    Rezko = Obama = Rezko = Obama (it’s almost like the chicken and the egg).

  124. Reno is very popular in FL. She almost ran for Governor. This is more a local endorsement than one they will use nationally.

  125. Hi yall. A friend of mine in MA just told me that Teddy’s endorsement not all that meaningful to her anyway. And I think she speaks for a number of folks. She’s solidly in Hill’s corner and was before this endorsement. She informed me that a lot of people not that crazy about Ted up there. I certainly agree with what others are saying up line that it reinforces the idea that Hillary is the change candidate, no matter how much BO protests to the contrary. It also reinforces the idea that we’ve talked a lot about having to do with sexism and misogyny. A true shame in this day and age, but at least we know where this country still has a whole lot of work to do

    Thanks ADMIN for the polls up top and for the statement by Kathleen Kennedy Townsend. It’s nice to know that three of Bobby’s kids are endorsing Hillary and that is important because there are a lot of similarities in Bobby and Hillary. He was an “insider” — a Senator from New York — who had Presidential level experience as Attny General. But he campaigned with his heart in 1968 and built a diverse coalition – like Hillary. I am impressed also the Bobby Jr has endorsed Hillary because he is a leading environmental policy person.

  126. I think that Hillary needs to do something bold. I believe that going to Fl tomorrow and drawing a line in the sand is the first move, The second move was going to MA and drawing another line in the sand. Senator Ted, you sh*it on me but I’m still coming in your back yard to shore up my support.

    Finally, #3, I think that she should give a big exclusive to Faux news, either Bill’O or Hume or Wallace. They have been somewhat fair to her although i don’t think it is for their own altruistic feelings. This will get huge ratings and also stick a finger in the eye of Nat’l Barrack Cork, Timmy, Morning JOke aka playmate and dead corpse Joe and the rest.

  127. Janet Reno is very popular in FL. and as you have probably seen right here, EVERY endorsement is potentially a double-edged sword, with both sides immediately accentuating the negative of the endorser. Teddy has certainly been slammed here, big time, and with the kind of crap you’d hope would only come from the right-wing fringe.

    So, take every endorsement with a grain of salt and save up those grains to toss on your popcorn TOMORROW NIGHT, because when all is said and done, it is US, the voters who decide who to vote for and FLORIDA GOES FOR HILLARY!

  128. do you know that teddy is hated just as much as hillary is? he’s VERY devisive, so i think this helps hillary….just wondering…

  129. gladiatorstail Says:
    January 28th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
    he put in straight against gay.. doesnt he know where obama stands on it?

    What does that mean?

  130. gladiatorstail, that’s not really funny. It sounds like he is trying to co-opt Hill’s message and give it to Obama.

  131. # Caroline Says:
    January 28th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    TheRealist can anyone listen to the conference call? Is so, how?

    I got an email from the campaign. Isn’t EVERYONE here on TEAM HILLARY and on the email list?

  132. Let us not get all negative on Teddy. I think strategically, getting an endorsement from teddy now is inconsistent with Obama saying that his is a campaign for the future! Obama is the establishment candidate now. That will not help Obama.

  133. Well, I am sorry, TPS. He’s my Senator and I am pissed. He’s co-opting Hill’s message for Obama? Hillary is the one who want s full universal healthcare. Hillary is the one who wants to end the politics of hate toward LGBT. I don’t care for Kennedy making it sound like that’s Obama, when it is Hillary who has been campaigning on those things.

  134. oh, I love Teddy. He’s awesome in committee and on the floor. He really slams the other side of the aisle. I’m sure the House can even hear him screaming and yelling….ha ha ha.

  135. Folks, I have been writing to people who endorse Hillary to thank them. I’ve also been writing to be who haven’t endorsed to encourage them. And I am also writing to people who make mistakes and endorse the wrong person. I will actively work to support people who have endorsed Hillary. And I will support the opponents of people (if I can) who have endorsed BO.

  136. It’s scuzzy if he’s trying to put words in BO’s mouth, to make him seem to support things he’s not supporting.

    I can’t forget how the Clintons helped Kennedy and Kerry in the 90s when they were in serious political trouble.

    But think Hillary better off without such insider endorsements.

  137. I’m watching the tv and it makes me sick. Chris Matthews said “this is what the 60s were like”. Give me a break. This is 2008 people. Kennedy wants to reminisce about the past when he was young and in the spotlight. Talk about the past and the establishment. Ted Kennedy embodies all of that. He makes me sick.

    This really is a horrible thing for Ted Kennedy to do. After years of supporting women’s organizations in D.C. (which I’ve worked for). Now we know that he thinks we are a joke. My boss at a non-profit in D.C. is so extremely disappointed right now. I hope we all express our disappointment by calling Ted’s office, leaving emails, whatever we can do to show him that his support for Obama does NOT change our minds. We’re sticking with Hillary.

  138. Hillary is up 30 points in the latest polls for Mass so how much will this endorsement help? Maybe a few points? I personally don’t think much.

  139. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter, I called and I encourage everyone to. He has a right t support anyone he wants, but him taking Hillary’s platform and giving to Obama is not right. And, his accusing the Clinton campaign of racism is down right ugly.

  140. mj, I understand your anger. I just don’t like it to get personal, that is all. Let us just keep it to issues. We are different from the Obama supporters. We are mature and level-headed and passionate about our candidate.

  141. “A Blot on Obama’s Big Day”— http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/28/politics/horserace/entry3759921.shtml

    I think the gods are smiling on us. SC sucked, but we knew it was coming. The polls show it is a racial divide. The numbers will be ours in the end. Just wait until tonight on ABC Nightly News when Charles Gibson leads off with Obama has a big day, BUT…… Then a lot more of this story will come out.

    Given that Charlies’ show is watched more than NBC or CBS, my guess is a lot of people will be going “huh?” afterwards and looking for more info.

    BWahahahahahahahahahahaha. 👿

  142. If your watching CNN, watch the reporter after his speech….she will gush about Obama (with a glow on her face and twinkle in her eyes). She is certainly a girl in love.

  143. HEHS, the media saying it is like the 60s is great! Because, then it makes clear Obama’s campaign is about the past not the future.

  144. Wish I could credit for this, but it came from a blog comment:

    Will Resko be endorsing Obama?

    The transcript of Teddy’s speech will be fun to work with later since he serenade’s the 60s and Rezbama wants everyone from the 60s to STFU.

  145. We love Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy. Today however they have made a mistake. We will eventually forgive them for that mistake. No one is perfect. They have a right to make a mistake. They have given much and we respect them.

    For us the battle is in Florida which votes tomorrow. We remain focused. Senator Nelson endorses tomorrow and Janet Reno endorsed today.

    There will be fun speeches in Washington, D.C. today. But what matters is what the voters say. What matters now is what the Florida voters say tomorrow and that they be heard.

    Let’s stay focused.

  146. TPS, this is about the issues. He is co-opting Hill’s message and giving it to Obama. Further, women in his state strongly favor Hill. I would go as far as to say, she inspires us, and he’s just ignoring that. And, finally, if you read the Globe, he is accusing Hill’s camp of racism. I’m sorry. That’s wrong.

  147. Have you all noticed the amount of new additions here to our community? it’s awesome.

    So, to all you who are new here, welcome to our down-to-earth, 100% pro-Hillary and 100% pro-democratic place.

  148. BTW- you guys should have seen Al Sharpton on The View. They kept trying to get him to make and endorsement but he said he didn’t share billing with anyone and that his focus was his organization’s mission which might be undercut by political statements by him. When pressured on Obama, he said that inspiration was nice but you need experience to get things signed into law to make real change. He went on to say, these days he has more marchers than ever, but no one to push or sign legislation which equates to an embodiment of the civil rights movement’s efforts for equality for all.

    (I think that means he’s for Hillary but can’t say so yet bc of internal pressures)

  149. What is fascinating about the MSM is they have no problems with so many members of Kennedy clan in the political scene. They never accuse them of nepotism. Whereas they are so quick to jump and accuse Clinton’s of nepotism.

  150. hillfans, ready for FLORIDA???!!!! YAY!!!! im happy she will be down there. the vote there will be so massive even big media won’t be able to ignore it.

  151. Kafeen, lots of folks had twinkles in their eyes after hearing Hitler, too. (And no- I have not envoked Godwin’s Law).

  152. Idon’t care about who Caroline endorsed. She is a private citizen and can endorse whomever she wants. Ted has every right to endorse Obama, but I am extremely displeased with the attacks he is making on Hillary, and the co-opting of Hill’s message for Obama’s gain.

  153. i agree mj. it’s not so much the endorsementsbut they have to attack hillary in the proccess while doing it.

  154. mj, Ted Kennedy made a mistake today and it will backfire on him politically and won’t help Obama what with all this focus on the 1960s. Obama and Ted are welcome to campaign to bring back the 60s. We will campaign for the future.

  155. MollyJ, Satan is more popular than Ted Kennedy in these parts. This may not be such a good thing for Precious in the longrun with Independent voters and Southerners.

  156. I have been trying to call Kennedy’s DC office for thirty minutes and it’s been consistently busy. Either they are out to lunch, took the phones off the hook out of frustration at the sheer volume, or are being swamped. I hope it’s all three 🙂

  157. Glad- who do you mean isn’t coherent? Ted? That might be the years of liquor. Obama? That might mean the teleprompter isn’t working and he’s having to think for himself again.

  158. BO says Caroline K. is inspiring a whole new generation. Not me.Watch what you say Barack. Don’t lie.

  159. Kaffeen, Taylor Marsh got it right about Precious co-opting Malcolm X’s language in SC. Why the BM doesn’t address what is downright a racial approach to a campaign, I don’t know. The “bamboozled” speech really pushed me over the edge. I will vote Republican in the GE if Precious get’s to go to the Show. He’s freakin’ dangerous.

  160. Why has Halperin suddenly shifted from calling OB the, Land of Lincolner” to the man from Hawaii? What’s next, “The Kansan from Indonesia”?

    Is Halperin trying to distance his Choice from Illinois, the land of REZKO-GATE? How can we exploit this obvious attempt by someone who is now exposed as a biased reporter to try to obfuscate Obama’s origins and ties? How can you call the senator from ILLINOIS, “the man from HAWAII”?

  161. I love how they always interrupt a Hillary rally or Q&A session but give Obama their full attention. This is so incredibly bias I can’t believe it. They always give Obama more time. They would never dare break from an Obama speech.

    I hope this loses Obama independent and Republican voters. I read that there are some Republicans voters who are backing Hillary and they might continue to. Anyone with sense and who is concerned with the economy and Iraq will want to choose the most qualified and experienced person. I’m glad everyone isn’t going buying into this BS on tv right now.

  162. meiyingsu, can you please post the link. I need to listen to Hillary just to calm myself otherwise I will go crazy with the madness of the media.

  163. Realist- you hit the nail on the head.

    “Precious, back away slowly from the dirty man. No. No. Leave the money alone…. No, you can’t have him over for sleepovers in the yard.” 😀

  164. There is a very interesting diary over at mydd about BO’s “whining strategy”.

    BO called Jess Jackson in India (yes, India) to inform him about Bill’s “Jackson” remark. We can only deduce that it was done with the intention of starting another fire beneaths Bill’s feet by attempting to provoke Jesse. And elicit yet another race card bashing statement against Bill.

    Considering his whining tendencies on full display these last few weeks, this is very much believable. And Jesse Jackson himself says that BO did “talk” to him about it.

    It fits right into the “divide and instigate” character of this phony while pretending to be above it all at the same time. Thats how his campaign has been run all along. Thats why the race card and thats why that radio ad in NV trying to instigate the hispanic community against Hillary.

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/28/131258/072

  165. This campaign is getting funnier and wierder every day. I will be able to laugh about it a lot harder once Hillary has the nomination locked up.

  166. Sherm, good point. I’d have never thought that the issues of race and gender would be used so poorly and that the media would be as complicit as it has been. Then again- look what they did to poor Al Gore. It’s like a particularly freaky episode of “The Twilight Zone.”

  167. dt, don’t you remember that when Benzir Bhutto was killed Rezbama was late for an event because he was dialing furiously to get hold of somebody — anybody — to show that he was up to being an international diplomat? Edwards did, as well, but only to the embassy before he got the call-back. Rezbama called everyone in his Pakistan Rolodex.

  168. BMerry, they may not have been retruning calls to Precious bc they were afraid it would be a “Countdown” warning.

    10
    9
    8
    7
    6……

    The guy’s a loose cannon and not one damn media type has taken him to task on his Pakistan comments that led to rioting and martial law and an assasination and….

    Jesus. We’re fucked if this guy gets annoited. I thought Bush was bad, but holy shit. Bush at least came in when things were good. Things are fucked now and will only get worse under this asshat.

  169. I am very concerned about Big Media. This is keeping Obama in the race and, since some are easily influenced by media, could propel him to greater heights. Hillary’s strategy so far has been wonderful, however, they need to find a way to negate Big Media’s crush on Obama.

  170. Kennedy would never be able to make latino’s vote for Obama. Those MSNBC jokers are living in LaLa-Land

  171. But imagine calling Jackon in India to complain ? I seriously believe that he could have very well done the same thing to Kennedy and all those others – calling them personally to complain about the Clintons; and sniggering after the phone call. Even Carville and Begala may have got the axe after a “personal” complaint. He is very, very much capable of that.

  172. OkieAtty, I will not put the national security of my country in the hands of BO, under any scenario. I’d trust a Repug on that before I would trust him. I thought the day would never come that I would say that, but I will. His ignorance could do more damage than the hawks could.

  173. H4T, I won’t vote republican, I’d melt if I did that. But, I won’t vote, something that I have never done before, and that is a choice as well. Obama as President really scares the hell out of me.

  174. dt: I would not be surprised. Obama whines a lot and he has a history of lying. He lies to voters all the time, misleading people by “what Hillary said” only he leaves out 3/4 of his quote

  175. Kaffen, Those of us who have seen Kennedy for the last 30 years are not impressed with him. This is the jerk who refused to endorse carter our party’s incumbent president after staging an insurgency. Looks like he wants to have one last (lost) hurrah!

  176. I just returned from lunch and watched a tiny fraction of the Caroline and Ted Kennedy endorsements. I respect them and have no desire to say anything about them other than that.

    However, I was listening to the rhetoric about the future and change and so on and it occurred to me how out of touch it was. Had this been the 2000 elections that would have sounded great but all I could think of was that they can afford to look past the next paycheck and I can’t. That is true of most of the American people.

    We can’t ignore the future and the things we can do now to make it better but in all honesty the here and now is in my face–and its in the face of the entire country whether the issue is the economy, health care, war, our place in the world. On day one, his message will be buried in the here and now and not worth teleprompter he is reading from.

  177. Is the msm covering it or are they still bullsh***ing everyone on the Kennedy thing. BTW, were they actually saying Kennedy was going to steal Latino votes from her?? Are you kidding me. He has like one Latino endorsement. We have Dolores Huerta, Bob Menendez, Lucille Roybal Allard, America Ferrera and so many others, and didn’t they see how much she blew obama out of the proverbial water with Latinos in Nevada?

  178. But hawk, Latinos are going to be sooooooooo impressed with the big TeddyK from Mass. that they will all jump ship, doncha know! ROTFLMAO!

  179. Hi everybody. I’m new to this site but I’ve visited for a while now to get the scoop on Hillary. I’m a 22 yr black woman who doesn’t support obama. Believe me there are thousands of democrats across the country who don’t support Obama. I think some of you are letting the media get to you. I, like a lot of Americans, hate the media! If the media really had that much control over anyone John Mccain would have already been elected president and Obama would be the frontrunner for the dems nom. He’s gotten great press and celebrity endorsements (Clooney, Oprah, Will Smith) for months now. Has that broadened his appeal? Has that helped him gain any ground in Florida or the big states that vote in just over a week? No! So really guys, RELAX

  180. Ted Kennedy’s kids are supporting Hillary. Hillary has the new Kennedy generation; Obama has the old guard…. I’ll take it!

    Rezko story just keeps getting bigger and bigger. There is no way Obama can continue to get away with ducking the issue and dodging the press.

    Great move by Hillary to hammer Bush today — she is at her best when she steers clear of Obama’s ankle-biting and annoying little spats that Axelrod/Gibbs try and stir up. Keep your sights on Bush, Hillary, and the economic issues facing Americans!

  181. Hawk, agree on the Latino vote. (you forgot L. A. Mayor Villagrosa).

    Maybe Obama will try to pass Rezko off as Latino. El Rezko?

  182. Glad: Here is a part of it quote:

    Before Mr. Obama’s win on Saturday night, Mr. Clinton was at a polling place in Columbia, S.C., and was asked by a reporter, “What does it say about Barack Obama that it takes two of you to beat him?” referring to Mr. Clinton’s full-time campaigning for his wife.

    thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/jackson-not-upset-by-clinton-remarks/?hp

  183. Hi nikki! Welcome! I too seriously doubt that most of America is watching CNN in the middle of the day on a Monday, or cares who Teddy endorses.

  184. As a Latino that doesn’t live in Massachusetts, I have no idea what Kennedy has done for our community, I am sure he has done things, but these are not common knowledge among the Latino people.

  185. The headline in my local paper says Kennedy is endorsing Obama because he didn’t like the tone in the campaign. Bullshit. He’s been planning this for weeks.

    OK, rant over, lol. 🙂

  186. * Another long feature about Hillary’s views about presidential leadership/includes an interview with Hillary….

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/01/28/080128fa_fact_packer

    Excerpt:

    The Choice
    The Clinton-Obama battle reveals two very different ideas of the Presidency.

    by George Packer January 28, 2008

    In the fall of 1971, a Yale Law School student named Greg Craig sublet his apartment, on Edgewood Avenue, in New Haven, to his classmate Hillary Rodham and her boyfriend, Bill Clinton, for seventy-five dollars a month. Over the following decades, Craig and the Clintons continued to cross paths. Craig, who became a partner at the blue-chip law firm Williams & Connolly, in Washington, D.C., received regular invitations to White House Christmas parties, where Hillary always remembered to ask about his five children. In the fall of 1998, President Clinton asked him to lead the defense team that the White House was assembling for the impeachment battle. On a bookshelf in Craig’s large corner office are several photographs of him with one or both Clintons, including a snapshot of the President and his lawyers—their arms folded victoriously across their chests—taken after Craig’s successful presentation during the Senate trial. An inscription reads, “To Greg. We struck the right pose—and you struck the right chords! Thanks—Bill Clinton, 2/99.”

    [snip]

    Inspiration is an underexamined part of political life and Presidential leadership. In its lowest, most common form, inspiration is simple charisma that becomes magnified by the media, as with Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton. On rare occasions, however, a leader can become the object of an intensely personal, almost spiritual desire for cleansing, community, renewal—for what Hillary, in a 1969 commencement speech at Wellesley, called “more immediate, ecstatic, and penetrating modes of living.” Somewhere between the merely great communicators and the secular saints are the exceptional politicians who, as Hillary put it then, “practice politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible possible.”

  187. Rezko as a Latino. He might be a member of ms13, who knows 😉

    Love that video about the Chicago district obama presided over……sad.

  188. It would be really nice if Hubert Humphrey and Adlai Stevenson can also come back from their graves to endorse Obama. That would really make sure that his campiagn is really about the future.

  189. wasabigirl, at 2:16 pm,

    I didn’t realize the list of offensive and racist terms we are not allowed to use includes:

    Jessie Jackson.

    This is beginning to infringe upon my right to freedom of speech. Fortunately there are still a lot of good words available in the English language.

  190. lol 🙂 TPS…. 🙂

    How bout’ Woodrow Wilson and FDR too. He is rediculous. Oh, and I have no doubt in my mind, FDR and Eleanor would have endorsed Hillary. Bess and Harry Truman too.

  191. Craig Crawford wrote today that the Teddy endorsement is meant to counter Hillary in Florida. He says that if it carries any weight, tomorrow will be the test.

    Remember, tonight’s the SOTU and tomorrow’s the Florida polls, with the results dominating the news cycle. Rezbama’s spin will be long gone and then it’s the debate. Hillary’s win in Florida will be carrying the weight by then and Rezbama’s SC win will be old news.

    CC will be on “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” Monday (1/28) MSNBC 8:00 PM EST

    . . . and on State of the Union Post-Game
    MSNBC with Host David Shuster
    Tuesday (1/29) 12:00 AM Midnight EST

  192. ABC’s coverage is leading the pack;
    By AVNI PATEL
    Jan. 28, 2008
    Despite claims over the weekend from Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama that his campaign had given away all the donations connected to accused fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the campaign has not returned more than $100,000 in donations from Rezko’s wife and 20 other Rezko-linked donors, according to an ABCNews.com review.

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4203278&page=1

  193. Having lived in Florida 1987-2000, I don’t recall too many Kennedy fans. It’s about local politics unless you’re a snowbird from NY or Ohio or Michigan or Canada.

  194. nikki.. welcome.. i am sure you will enjoy the discussions here and we would love to hear more from you! obama is hollywood candidate.. as admin once said, obama can be a good fiction writer attending oprah shows to promote his books!

  195. I second hawk. As part of the Hispanic voting block, I am confused why they think he has mass appeal to us? Frankly, I don’t think many of them know who he is. The idea of having a large white man with white hair whose speaking style is opposite to what Latinos would be attracted to, is a little absurd. If anything they’ll say about Obama: Como se llama? And about Kennedy: El gringo dice que votamos para come se llame. (The white man says to vote for what’s his name). I also take offense that the MSM thinks Hispanics are so monolithic that they will fall in line behind a candidate that has a “liberal” voting record on immigration. There are other issues we care about too.

  196. Hillaryfortexas and Okieatty:

    I agree with you. National security in the hand of BO would be a disaster!

    I only want 2 things from the next president.

    National security and focus on economy.

    Hill does both great.

    Repugs do national security well and even McCain would do better on economy than BO D-REZKO from syria

    Why was Rezko in syria recently?

  197. And I’ll also remind you that the Latino culture is very maternal. There is a lot of respect for “motherly” figures in our culture which I think bodes well for Hillary.

  198. Nikki22 – Thanks. You are the comment of the day, if not the week, if not the month.

    Everyone should relax. Keep on the Game Plan. There are 8 days left and worrying and huffing and puffing about message, or events or clothing are not helpful. It’s now up to the ground game and state demographics. Organization is what will matter. 8 days left to Super Tuesday with a debate and Florida inbetween.

    No one endorsement or big event is going to change things. What will win the day, what will make change is hard work. Fear and worry and speculation about this or that pending disaster or what people will think or what Big Media will do are not productive.

    Remember, the Obama plan was to keep us from getting to where we are today: At the threashold of Super Tuesday and Florida with big leads in the big states. The Obama game plan was to win all the early states and force Hillary off the field before the strong Hillary Super Tuesday states vote. The Obama game plan has failed so they keep trying to create a wave mentality.

    We are where we wanted to be all year long. The Hillary strategy is working, Obama’s strategy has failed.

    When a tired Hillary volunteer or campaign worker visits this site they should leave with a sense of support and encouragement (not worry or nervousness or fear).

    We are in very good shape, excellent shape actually (did anyone read our Wall Street Journal update on the front page?). As Nikki22 says (which demonstrates what smarts some 22 year olds have) stop letting the media get to you.

    We are in great shape, accept reality.

  199. nikki22, welcome. glad you’re here. yeah, I think you have a good point about the media. i hope they do a story on britney spears and heath ledger and then segway into a darling story about My Precious.

  200. I think Ted K is a good democrat but his time is long gone. Nobody will be swayed by who he endorses. Same thing with Caroline. She’s a private citizen in NYC who has written some good books but I doubt anyone looks to her to see how they are going to vote. Also Obama doesn’t stand a chance! He’s making the same mistake he made after Iowa. His campaign believed in the dominoe theory;all he had to do was win Iowa! That hasn’t worked out so well. I mean think about all that press he got after his win there. It was incredible. And someone correct me if I’m wrong but I never saw one national poll where he pulled ahead of hillary, not one! I didn’t see her take a hit in the big states either. The lowest I’ve seen her margin in California from a credible pollster was 9pts (field poll). If he didn’t get past her after Iowa considering its importance I just don’t see a SC win doing anything. Edwards won SC big in 04 & Jesse won SC twice. South Carolina has never been a game changer for the dems. He’ll do well in a lot southern states where AAs make a majority or big bloc but thats not enough to win. He’s basically got the Tsongas/Bradley coalition w/ AfricanAmericans thrown in.

  201. How will BM spin Barry’s loss in MA. despite the endorsements of both, “old guard”, senators and the state’s governor? They WILL, the question is how?

  202. CC is Craig Crawford.

    With all these endorsements, it’s abundantly clear Obama is the establishment candidate.

  203. I can’t wait for him to lose Massachusetts. They will ignore it like they always ignore things favorable to us and bad for obama.

  204. Welcome nikki22-

    The only thing I would disagree with in your analysis is that the numbers are in the tens of MILLIONS…

    Again, welcome!

  205. Also, could somebody explain this?

    “A Rasmussen Reports analysis suggests that something might have changed following Obama’s huge victory in South Carolina. The numbers still favor Clinton but-as every sports fan knows–sometimes the numbers don’t matter.”

    Um, how could the numbers not matter? Obama gained one day in the rolling average Sunday, the day after he won SC, and a tremendous polling day he had Friday is still in the mix. That drops out tomorrow.

  206. Admin, as far as being supportive and having people feel energized. I think that there should not be a feeling of over confidence. It is actually a good thing that there are things to make us worry. This is all the more reason to go all out and devote our time and energy outside of this blog and to the campaign.

  207. This silly Kennedy endorsement is completely orchestrated, and Big Media is falling right in line. The Obama strategists are doing what they did after Iowa: delay an endorsement from an old-guard Democrat until after Obama wins a primary state, to create the impression of “momentum.” This is what they did with Kerry (Kerry admitted he was ready to endorse earlier, but the Obama campaign asked him to wait for more “strategic” timing of the announcement). Yet more phoniness from BHO.

  208. No your right, I was just confused. I want to see us come out with a big endorsement, bigger than Bill Nelson. Like Bill Richardson, or Joe Biden, or Chris Dodd, or Al Gore, or Russ Feingold, or Blanche Lincoln, or Ken Salazar, or Maria Shriver. Come on! That would be awesome.

  209. The main problem I have with these endorsements is that some of them are Super Delegates which adds to BO committed count.

    Other than that, I don’t think they make much difference to ordinary Americans.

  210. mj, clintondem99’s post at 11:21.

    BTW, if what Craig Crawford said about Kennedy’s endorsement supposed to help in Fla. is true, my reaction is, huh?

    FYI, the worst Fla. poll out today has Hillary up 17, and that includes one day post-SC. Keep in mind, she’s already gotten a big boost from absentee ballots there.

  211. If Hillary is the 90s candidate, then BO is 60s candidate. How much retro can you go? Now that he got endorsement from a 60s (Teddy) may be he wants to get some endorsements from descendants of George Washington!

  212. I can’t wait to see Hillary at the SOTU tonight. She always looks great, I wonder if she is going to be near b.o. or Ted Kennedy. I love during one of the last ones HRC smirked at Bush as he talked about the deficit. I loved it. She is so awesome.

  213. nikki22 — Welcome and thank you for your comments! We are glad to have you here.

    To what you said, I would only add: Relax and make those phone calls, go canvassing and wear those buttons. Talk to people about why Hillary will make one of the greatest Presidents this country has ever seen.

    What the Kennedy endorsements do is make Obama even more of a walking contradiction than he was yesterday. He supposedly abhors “old ideas” and the “boomers” (even though he is one). And he’s publicly insulted Teddy. Go figure. It is all for show, folks. We just have to do our work and ignore the studio audience.

  214. Kaffeen, worry is a waste of time.

    What we suggest is realistic assessments – not blind overconfidence, not blind fear – reality.

    If the assessment is bad, the solution is work hard to overcome the challenge. If the assessment is good -work harder to make sure the optimistic assessment becomes reality.

    In either case it does no good to worry or whine. Hillary is a good teacher in this. With all that she has been hit with in her life she does not stay in bed and worry. Hillary gets out of bed and works. For instance, while Ted Kennedy is in Washington today, Hillary is in Massachusetts -Massachusetts – getting the message out. She is simply incredible. Hillary does not worry. She just gets up every day and fights. We can only hope to emulate Hillary’s great example.

    8 more days to Super Tuesday. 1 more day to Florida.

  215. mj, I read what Soto said, too. Sorry, but nobody is going to convince me or guilt me into voting for any candidate or accept any nominee for POTUS just for the good of the party. Whew! That’s as close as I have come to actually spelling it. 8)

  216. We should not be touting Florida polls all over the web. Build up low expectations suggesting that Hillary is a prohibitive underdog in Florida.

  217. Kafeen- I agree we shouldn’t be overconfident but we also shouldn’t let the msm turn us into worry worts either. New hampshire for me changed everything, the voters spoke. They didn’t buy what the press was selling them! Just like democrats in Florida will speak tomorrow. Then millions will be heard super tuesday. Heck, we should be thanking Obama for being this inept. I mean if this were me & I was serious about getting nominated I would be all over the country campaigning! But he isn’t. He’s behind by double digits in most big states! Its like he & his pals in the media think people are sitting around across the country going I wasn’t going to vote for Obama (after Oprah, Clooney etc) but now that Ted & Caroline are for him he’s got my vote. Yeah right!

  218. I agree with HWC. All along the polls have been wrong. Let’s just hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

  219. Admin, about Florida, please get Hillary or Bill or someone who would be heard to say why the vote there matters tomorrow. I’ve heard a few, particularly on CNN, ask why Hillary thinks Florida is important enough to go there since there are NO DELEGATES.

    I understand she will, at some point, ask to have them seated if she has the lead in delegates. Why do those dummies not know that? Actually, I don’t care about them, but I would like for people to understand that Hillary is being very smart, not stupid the way they suggest.

    Sometimes I get defensive about my candidate.

  220. An endorsement has to pass a basic “does it make sense” test. Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama is way over the top. Next JFK? Generational change? This is a first-term senator with little or no experience. You have to say things that are at least somewhat credible. If you endorse someone as the “next messiah” and that “he walks on water” people will ask for proof.

  221. Seen on Taylor Marsh – Wooooooooooot!!!

    “I will take 2.9 million nurses over Teddy any day.

    As a nurse myself, I am SO PROUD that the American Nurses Association endorsed Hillary today.

    2.9 million, baybeeeee. :-)”

  222. mj, I read Soto’s post and just don’t buy it. The Clintons did not throw everything but the kitchen sink at Obama in SC. They essentially gave up on the state in December. He got basically the same percentage of AA vote there he did in Nevada, and he painstakingly built an organization there for months, to his credit.

    The only wildcard in the race was the white vote, and Edwards did better there than expected.

  223. Nikki hit the nail on the head. He is basking on the stage for all the photo ops he is getting to have with the Kennedys. He does not seem worried about the concerns of real people and about the weak economy. We need to be humble and work hard like we are 20 points behind. There is no point fretting about the media because they will be happy to see us and her team squirm because they would like to see her and Bill humiliated in the public. We need to ignore the press and work hard to make sure that their wish does not come true.

    There is no greater joy and making sure that what happened in NH is repeated across the country.

  224. If the media really had that much control over anyone John Mccain would have already been elected president and Obama would be the frontrunner for the dems nom. He’s gotten great press and celebrity endorsements (Clooney, Oprah, Will Smith) for months now. Has that broadened his appeal? Has that helped him gain any ground in Florida or the big states that vote in just over a week? No! So really guys, RELAX

    **********

    Welcome Nikki! You are so right! Ladies/guys, calm down. yes,it;s a great day for Bambi, however, the SOTU will be tonight and the Repugs primaries will be tomorrow. Those guys are really djkint i out. Romney straight said that Mccain was lying. it’s a un fight. This will take all the air in the news tomorrow. TheFISA vote is taking place now, Hillary will win and win bitg tomorrow and I’m betting that the average voter will take note of that.

  225. kennedy says only obama was against the war among the 3 candidates. mr kennedy-obama gave 1 speech against the war, took that speech off his website, voted for all fundin of the war int he senate, has doen squat for health or education as u well know serving on the ed comte etc…

  226. New Plouffe (like POOF!) memo, that I won’t post here;

    thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-on-their-strategy-post-south-carolina/

    Admin-

    Agreed we should all be Realists now…:)

  227. I’ve tried to email Sen. Kennedy on his website and it’s really hard to get through. I think a lot of people are sending him messages right now. Don’t give up. We need to outnumber the letters from the Obama supporters. Let him know that we will not put up with this media charade he’s participating in with Obama.

  228. The judge “said she grew concerned after learning Rezko received $3.5 million from a company in Lebanon; he had claimed that he had no income. St. Eve said she feared Rezko could be a flight risk.”

  229. One last point I’ll make about the polls: we should be careful about reading too much into them. Not all polls are created equal & they do fluctuate. I trust some pollsters more than others (I happen not to be a fan of Zogby or Rasmussen). I try to look for trends over time. That’s why I wasn’t surprised when Hillary lost Iowa. That had been her toughest state throughout the year. Even when she had leads they weren’t that great, always within MOE. NH & NV had been strong for her mostly. Beyond that I think looking at a particular states demographics gives me a pretty good idea about Hillarys chances. Anybody with a half brain knew she wasn’t going to take SC after Iowa because the majority of the vote is AA & Obama would have symbolic support. I’m black and don’t support Obama but I get why a lot of other AAs do. Look if New Orleans was maj white Nagin could never have won in that city again but a lot black people voted for him over Landrieu.

  230. Obama played up the race card because of SC because of the racial composition of the people voting in the primary there. Now that they got what they wanted (SC win with a good margin), they will play the racial component down because playing race card will hurt them on Feb 5th, where the racial composition of the voters is much different.

  231. “At an afternoon hearing, the judge remanded him to the custody of U.S. marshals and scheduled another hearing for Tuesday.

    “Some of the people who put up property in Rezko’s name also are renting out or trying to sell the property, according to prosecutors, raising concerns there may not be enough collateral to secure Rezko’s bond.”

  232. You know, I still think Hillary has to win by being Hillary. Rezco won’t be enough. She’s essentially the non-establishment candidate at this point, and she is loathed by the media. I understand why you all like to focus on this Rezco, but Hillary has to win this, not just not lose.

  233. Kennedy’s endorsement has got nothing to do with all this change and idealism bs that is being thrown around.

    It is plain ol’ dirty politics. You think he doesn’t know that Hillary is head and shoulders above BO when it comes to grasping and understanding legislative, economic and international issues ? That she evidently has some really strong intellect which always comes out in the debates? And after all the Bill has done for him (and for John Kerry as well), why would he go to the extent of giving them the finger, literally, when they really havent done anything to him ?

    There’s a lot of personal issues that these guys have . It could all boil down to the realignment of power in the Senate, the DNC and generally uncertainty about how a Clinton administration with all its seasoned players will affect the power plays of these gentlemen. You cant take Hillary for a ride. To that extent, it kind of reminds me of how all of the Bush I stalwarts lined up behind Dubya – because it would be easy to control him. I wont be surprised if there have been a few backroom dealings behind all these endorsements. Now, about Caroline Kennedy – that could be genuine. But somehow I dont trust these Senators who remembered and called upon the Clinton’s when they needed their help and then later acted as if they were deterimental to the party.

  234. as long as BHO stays in the race, we will continue hearing “racist, racist, racist ……” so sick of it. so I hope Feb. 5 will be the day to end “racist”.

  235. Hillary focusing on Rezko is not going to help her in the primaries. She should do what she is doing which is focus on the economy – on real issues affecting real people.

    Remember, the elections should never be about candidates themselves. It should be about people and issues affecting them. Hillary is running a classic dem. campaign by focusing on issues. Obama is running a classic republican campaign by focusing on personality, character, and basically about himself – how big a halo he has behind him, and how impressed we should be of that halo.

  236. I agree MJ. It’s an uphill battle whenever the media isn’t your friend but I think she can do it. Her surrogates need to get across the fact that Obama is now the establishment candidate and not her. She needs to continue to travel to every county in every state participating in Super Tuesday and do her Q&A sessions. Once she gets her word out there and meets voters face to face she wins. I have a feeling that everyone outside of the 18-25 demographic aren’t getting too bought over by the hype. Older voters want to hear about the issues and Hillary will beat him on that. She needs to be herself and just get out there and ignore all the hatred on the news networks.

  237. mj, no, Rezko won’t be enough on its own, but as long as it stays in the spin cycle, it will keep popping up on the news with Rezbama’s name attached to it. When people keep hearing this over and over, it will sink in with some that, even if nothing happens in the short term, it may well in the long term. As it looks like we may well be going all the way to Denver to decide the Dem nominee, the longer this simmers the better.

    BTW, admin deserves all the credit for sticking to this story. It is big and we’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg. This was not political timing but looks like the U.S. Marshalls were convinced Rezko was going to make a run for it.

  238. It isn’t the folks on this blog who are focused on REZKO-Gate mj…

    As someone who is often, “worried”, “concerned”, etc., about each and every negative story or rumor about Hillary, you should be enjoying the massive world-wide media coverage of Barry’s good friend and BIGGEST contributor.

  239. Whatever, it’s my opinion. I just think Hillary has to go out there and win this, and in the end, I frankly don’t think this story will be a deciding factor.

  240. hate to advocate for other blogs.. but those who wish to know.. I just donated $10 to mydd for their fundraiser. They are the only ones who are fair, they were the first ones who called out jesse jackson dog and whistle on their front page. agreed, they are edwards biased, but atleast they havent banned me when I expressed my displeasure against obama’s negative campaign.

    btw I was banned 6 times total on dkos just since begining of this campaign (I had been dkos member since 2005).

  241. I stopped paying attention to tv talking heads right after Dean 04. I mean to hear the msm talk up Howard Dean for months with their inside knowledge then see him implode with Kerry the guy they wrote off for months getting nominated. A light went off. These guys are clueless! Look at 2000. McCain was treated like an angel by the press & believe it or not Mr. 25% was vilified. Really! Of course GW Bush got the nod because most republican voters voted for him. They could have cared less that Tweety thought he was the greatest thing ever. I guess my point is the only power the media & pundits have is the power that you give them.

  242. From http://www.time.com

    In fact, Dems insist that not having their candidates in the state has compelled them to fortify their grassroots infrastructure, which has sputtered over the past decade compared to the Republicans’ well-oiled Florida machine. Says Rich: “In a way it’s exciting, because [Clinton’s] supporters want to be out there acting as a surrogate for her. In the process we’re getting our grassroots more activated and regenerated.” Brubiski says the party as a result has seen a rise in Democratic registrations across Florida and new emphasis on local organization. Absentee ballot requests from Democrats are up 56% since 2004. And early voting totals already suggest that the state’s Democratic voters are not being turned off by the DNC boycott; by the weekend before the primary, close to 350,000 Democrats had voted early, as compared with just 97,000 who voted early four years ago.

    The final irony, according to Wexler, is that because even Super Tuesday may not solidify either Clinton’s or Obama’s hold on the nomination in this unusually hard fought primary season, “if Florida had kept its primary election date where it was, it may well have played a greater role in deciding the nominee.” That said, however, he still believes the Florida result will influence Super Tuesday voters even if it won’t count on the delegate tally board. And he and other state Democratic leaders remain convinced, like state Republicans, that it was necessary for Florida to strike a blow for primary reform in the U.S., like the creation of rotating regional primaries, which looks more likely to happen now for the 2012 election.

    As for the 2008 race, who knows — if the Democratic primaries still haven’t yielded a clear winner for the nomination by the summer, perhaps the party will need to use Florida’s delegates (and Michigan’s) to break the deadlock. It is, after all, the kind of extra-innings electoral role Florida has played before.

  243. MJ, I think Rezko is the only thing that negates Big Media’s Crush on Obama. It is not going to win the nomination, but it will help. There was an article that I posted awhile back, a great quote, “dirt shows up on a white horse more than a gray one”. Hillary has been through the wringer in many ways, there is very little traction there. But Rezko, ah, this is fresh and shiny, just like Mr. Pookie himself.

  244. dt, you have a good point.

    super delegate problem: their votes are public information, so it’s not secret, which means any politician who feels pressure from the elitist wing of the democratic party will have to vote for obama, My Precious.

  245. Chicago Sun-Times:

    The reality is this defendant has played a shell game,” and has “misled the court” about his financial situation, Assistant U.S. Attorney Reid J. Schar said.

    Rezko allegedly secretly received millions of dollars in a bank account and funnelled the money through third parties to family, friends and creditors — all without telling the court, prosecutors alleged.

    Rezko got $3.5 million from a British-based Iraqi billionaire to whom he has business ties and also cashed out of a large land investment on the South Side, prosecutors alleged.

    Before he was granted bond, Rezko had told the court he had no money to speak of and had to have family members post properties for his $1.5 million bond.

    But prosecutors allege that Rezko funnelled money to some of those family members.

    In one instance, Rezko sent $260,000 to one family member who posted two properties for Rezko’s bond — eliminating the risk that relative faced if Rezko fled, and the properties had to be forfeited.

    In another case, Rezko secretly made

  246. Sorry, got to rant. Rezbama repeated the lie about how his father came to America again today, Teddy repeated it, and now it’s circulating in the news all over again. How many times does this have to be debunked?

    This is EXACTLY like George W. Bush:

    “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”

    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0829-21.htm

  247. nikki- I guess my point is the only power the media & pundits have is the power that you give them.

    This is the best line someone has written on the topic of media pundits coverage of this election in the last few months. I agree 100%.

  248. nikki- I guess my point is the only power the media & pundits have is the power that you give them.

    This is the best line someone has written on the topic of media pundits coverage of this election in the last few months. I agree 100%.

  249. I agree that Rezco won’t be a deciding factor. The Obama fanatics will vote for him regardless of the facts. Bringing up Rezco (unless something really, really huge connecting Obama to something horrible comes up) might hurt Hillary because the media and Obama camp will make her into the big bad monster who is turning to mudslinging and negative politics again.

    I think Rezco shouldn’t come out of Hillary’s mouth for the next two weeks. Her surrogates should keep their eye on this issue though. Someone in her camp might be able to uncover something that can be useful if Obama attacks her on Walmart or her law career.

    I DO think that Rezco will be a huge issue if Obama won the nomination. The Republicans will not hold back on their attacks. Obama is enjoying all of this praise. Let him enjoy it because if all of this hype unfairly gives him the nomination I hope he gets everything he deserves. I’ll enjoy sitting back and watching the Republicans rip him to shreds and bring up all of his illegal and immoral deals with Rezco.

  250. Agree ra1029. Excellent points. Elections are about the voters. Hillary is right on the issues and Obama is a personality character.

    Rezko is a window into the real Obama. Rezko exposes the mistruths Obama has been spouting. No one is saying that Rezko will win Hillary the election.

    What Rezko did was to help separate the Obama flowery talk from the Obama reality.

    In Elmer Gantry and the movie Face In the Crowd we see how these hypocrite populist types get brought down by their own deeds and words. The problem for us with these flim flam artists is that they get away with their act for a long time. The Obama campaign wanted to skirt past the Super Tuesday primaries without discussing Obama’s real record. The goal of the flim flammer is to get away with his lies just long enough to get what he wants.

  251. ra, nikki, admin, I kindly disagree. I respect everyone, but I think that quote sounds a bit Obama-ish. The reality is that big media does have power over others. They don’t have power over *me*, but I am only one amongst millions. Don’t underestimate the power of media, that would be a huge miscalculation.

  252. First Read:

    First Read has just learned that Jano Cabrera — who worked as a spokesman for Gore in ’00, Lieberman’s ’04 bid, and the DNC in ’04 general election — has joined Team Clinton as a senior communications adviser.

    Always armed with a good sense of humor, Jano sends up this YouTube clip about his return into presidential politics.

  253. HLR, They woud just ignore the results. They have already starterd calling it a straw poll, beauty contest.

  254. Has anyone pointed out that Ted Kennedy lost when he ran for president? To Jimmy Carter in the Democratic primary?

  255. What is really funny, is that Michigan and Florida (definitely Florida) will probably have their delegates count. I believe all that is needed is a simple majority of the delegates to vote for that.

  256. Kathleen Kennedy on MSNBC

    Hillary in Massachusetts:

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-qGLDs-gAnZiUXD2NU51ry3j3dwD8UF0RQ80

    Her audience, which included an equal number listening in an adjoining room, roared with approval when the former first lady took note of the Republican president’s dwindling time in office. “Tonight is a red-letter night in American history,” she said. “It is the last time George Bush will give the State of the Union. Next year it will be a Democratic president giving it.” Bush is isolated at the White House, Clinton said, inviting the president to join her in meeting the kind of people she has come across during her campaign. “Sit at tables at diners and hear what’s on America’s mind,” she suggested.

  257. Admin-

    Or that he fractured the party and contributed to the election of Ronald Reagan, the guy with all the ideas…

  258. I don’t disagree with the fact that Rezko information should be out there. If press covered it like they did with Monica and and deliberately assign bad motives then it is a different topic altogether. However, the way press is covering it now, most people won’t know much about Obama and Rezko other than Rezko is a crook and a past friend of Obama. Not many details are put forward by the national cable channels. If that is all the information people have, then people will discount it.

    Hillary will then play in Obama’s turf which is personality and character and other fluffy topics, which is not good for her. She is very good when she is playing on her turf, which is solutions to real problems like health care, economy, and her depth of knowledge on issues where Obama is really really weak. He wants to take the focus away from discussing soultions to real issues to topics like trust, character, race, and his speeches.

  259. I doubt Hillary will mention Rezko at all unless it comes out at the debate (but not initiated by her). It’s in the media now, and Hillary’s just doing her thing by focusing like a laser beam on the economy.

    BTW, here’s a nice video of Chelsea in MO:

    semissourian.com/gallery/ap/d8c86582-0108-4c50-9622-3260ef7bf584

  260. BM ignored REZKO-GATE until Hillary said his name on TV. She got the ball rolling. She doesn’t have to initiate the story again…

  261. CD99, it’s at Politico (hi Ben) with links elsewhere.

    admin’s insight into the Rezbama story is right on. Just listen to what the AUSA and judge had to say about Rezko’s $$$ shell game. It is such a good shell game that it took them months to unravel what he was up to .. and every day that this makes the BM websites, blogs and news is a very good day indeed! There is a LOT to talk about this today and there ARE some good media types out there who will follow up on this story now that there is some meat on the bones.

  262. New Steinham on Clinton (Corrected Version):

    “Women Are Never Front-Runners
    By GLORIA STEINEM

    Correction Appended

    THE woman in question became a lawyer after some years as a community organizer, married a corporate lawyer and is the mother of two little girls, ages 9 and 6. Herself the daughter of a white American mother and a black African father — in this race-conscious country, she is considered black — she served as a state legislator for eight years, and became an inspirational voice for national unity.

    Be honest: Do you think this is the biography of someone who could be elected to the United States Senate? After less than one term there, do you believe she could be a viable candidate to head the most powerful nation on earth?

    If you answered no to either question, you’re not alone. Gender is probably the most restricting force in American life, whether the question is who must be in the kitchen or who could be in the White House. This country is way down the list of countries electing women and, according to one study, it polarizes gender roles more than the average democracy.

    That’s why the Iowa primary was following our historical pattern of making change. Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women (with the possible exception of obedient family members in the latter).

    If the lawyer described above had been just as charismatic but named, say, Achola Obama instead of Barack Obama, her goose would have been cooked long ago. Indeed, neither she nor Hillary Clinton could have used Mr. Obama’s public style — or Bill Clinton’s either — without being considered too emotional by Washington pundits.

    So why is the sex barrier not taken as seriously as the racial one? The reasons are as pervasive as the air we breathe: because sexism is still confused with nature as racism once was; because anything that affects males is seen as more serious than anything that affects “only” the female half of the human race; because children are still raised mostly by women (to put it mildly) so men especially tend to feel they are regressing to childhood when dealing with a powerful woman; because racism stereotyped black men as more “masculine” for so long that some white men find their presence to be masculinity-affirming (as long as there aren’t too many of them); and because there is still no “right” way to be a woman in public power without being considered a you-know-what.

    I’m not advocating a competition for who has it toughest. The caste systems of sex and race are interdependent and can only be uprooted together. That’s why Senators Clinton and Obama have to be careful not to let a healthy debate turn into the kind of hostility that the news media love. Both will need a coalition of outsiders to win a general election. The abolition and suffrage movements progressed when united and were damaged by division; we should remember that.

    I’m supporting Senator Clinton because like Senator Obama she has community organizing experience, but she also has more years in the Senate, an unprecedented eight years of on-the-job training in the White House, no masculinity to prove, the potential to tap a huge reservoir of this country’s talent by her example, and now even the courage to break the no-tears rule. I’m not opposing Mr. Obama; if he’s the nominee, I’ll volunteer. Indeed, if you look at votes during their two-year overlap in the Senate, they were the same more than 90 percent of the time. Besides, to clean up the mess left by President Bush, we may need two terms of President Clinton and two of President Obama.

    But what worries me is that he is seen as unifying by his race while she is seen as divisive by her sex.

    What worries me is that she is accused of “playing the gender card” when citing the old boys’ club, while he is seen as unifying by citing civil rights confrontations.

    What worries me is that male Iowa voters were seen as gender-free when supporting their own, while female voters were seen as biased if they did and disloyal if they didn’t.

    What worries me is that reporters ignore Mr. Obama’s dependence on the old — for instance, the frequent campaign comparisons to John F. Kennedy — while not challenging the slander that her progressive policies are part of the Washington status quo.

    What worries me is that some women, perhaps especially younger ones, hope to deny or escape the sexual caste system; thus Iowa women over 50 and 60, who disproportionately supported Senator Clinton, proved once again that women are the one group that grows more radical with age.

    This country can no longer afford to choose our leaders from a talent pool limited by sex, race, money, powerful fathers and paper degrees. It’s time to take equal pride in breaking all the barriers. We have to be able to say: “I’m supporting her because she’ll be a great president and because she’s a woman.”

    Gloria Steinem is a co-founder of the Women’s Media Center.

    Correction: January 9, 2008

    An Op-Ed article yesterday about Hillary Rodham Clinton misstated Senator Edward M. Kennedy’s position on the presidential race. He has not endorsed Mrs. Clinton or any candidate.
    (as of today, Jan. 28, Kennedy has endorsed Obama. E.B.)”

  263. You guys will get a kick out of this bit from a Howie Kurtz column on Taegan Goddard:

    “In an age of all-out political warfare, the Obama campaign is a bit of an odd duck: It is not obsessed with winning each news cycle. The Illinois senator remains a remote figure to those covering him, and his team, while competent and professional, makes only spotty attempts to drive its preferred story lines in the press… the contrast in his press strategy is striking, not just with Clinton’s campaign — which aggressively lobbies journalists around the clock — but also with the Bush White House and the Clinton White House before that. And that, Obama aides say, is by design.”

    Notes strategist David Axelrod: “What we don’t do is spend six hours a day trying to persuade you guys that red is green or up is down.”

    Um, maybe they don’t try to lobby the media because they don’t have to – it’s already an extension of the Obama campaign.

  264. Kafeen- You are 100% right! Of course the media echo chamber has some impact. I mean look at the run up to the Iraq war. Talk about a travesty. The Bush administration used the press to hoodwink millions of voters into thinking Saddam was a big threat to the U.S. and had to be taken out. If the media had done its job the war would never have happened and maybe more people would have had the courage to speak out. I don’t have blinders on, obviously the press can have influence. I guess I’m talking in this instance about politics. Let me just give you a few examples: Bill Clinton has been demonized by the media ever since 1992. Did they stop him from getting to the white house or being reelected in 96? Even today the msm is negative towards him but he’s got a 70% approval rating. Bush v McCain 2000, the pundits pulled for McCain every step of the way. What happened? R voters decided they wanted Bush Russert and MoDo be damned. Lastly Clinton v Obama. Barack Obama has been treated like the second coming since day 1. But look at where Hillary’s at! She is this close to being the first female nominated by a major political party. Despite having the hacks in the media against her every step of the way. Why? Because as charming Obama may be he is not speaking to us about real issues that concern peoples lives. I understand why you’d be anxious watching Obama get reverential treatment by the media but I want you to understand that so far people just haven’t bought what the pundits have tried to sell! Now if I’m wrong and Obama takes Florida and then a few days from now raks up huge wins on super tuesday then we can complain about the people being sold a bill of goods by the beltway press.

  265. Admin wrote: “Has anyone pointed out that Ted Kennedy lost when he ran for president? To Jimmy Carter in the Democratic primary?”

    And, for that matter, that John Kerry ACTUALLY LOST to Dubbya. Someone wrote this earlier, but in the GE I think that original the lack of support among these eminent democrats actually bodes well for HRC with the American public generally–especially in Florida and Ohio. But in the mean time, need to keep up work with respect to the nomination.

  266. The best part of the ABCNews.com story today on Rezko is this:

    “In court, prosecutors said Rezko had become a “flight risk” because of his secretive transactions in the Mideast.

    According to the court filings, the money came from a company, General Mediterranean, owned by a British-based Iraqi billionaire, Nadhmi Auchi, who was convicted in France on fraud charges.

    The filing says when Auchi was unable to obtain a visa to visit the United States in 2005, Rezko intervened and “asked certain Illinois government officials” to appeal the State Department’s ruling.

    The officials who Rezko approached are not specified. Sen. Obama had just taken office as a U.S. senator in 2005, the same year he sought Rezko’s help in the purchase of his home. ”

    This means theye smell blood and think Precious helped get this ME criminal a visa to enter the US. Holy hell….there is blood in the water on this one. It’s not just about houses and slums anymore. This has a Middle Eastern hijinks appeal. And let’s not forget we’ve got a war going on there right now…. The GOP will hit him over and over with “giving aid and comfort to enemies” stuff…

  267. Norah should buy more batteries for her um…”friend.” I think she’s too worked up all the time and that might be why she’s subject to falling for a con artist. She should be having a crush on old Dennis. His wife’s young and hot so he must have something going on. 😀

  268. Paula Says:
    January 28th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
    BTW, here’s a nice video of Chelsea in MO:

    semissourian.com/gallery/ap/d8c86582-0108-4c50-9622-3260ef7bf584

    Thank you so much for this video Paula. Chelsea making her mother proud.

  269. The Democratic Party obviously have not learned their lesson. I think we’re the only people who’ve noticed that all of these politicians who endorse Obama are LOSERS. Why are people even listening to John Kerry anymore? The 2004 election should have been ours. These losers have lost to the Republicans for years and is the reason why our country is in the state we are in today. These old white men HATE Hillary and Bill for being the only two people who could beat the Republican Party twice. They hate that Bill is a mastermind and policy wonk and is the best thing our party has seen in decades. They hate that they are the most powerful team we will see in our lifetimes. They hate that Hillary is a woman and can do a better job for our country than they ever will.

  270. I liked it when the reporter from Chicago talked about 3 long paragraphs about Rezko in tribunes endorsement. LOL

  271. Also Hillary should just stay on Message. If Obama in the debate tries to sway her and throws a punch she should say something like “The people do not want us bickering Barack we need to stay on message Heres why my healthcare plan rocks” That will swat him down better than any reference to REZKO can do.

    Bill is getting a lot of bad press these days and I think he is THE GREATEST ASSET. But I get so tired of seeing headlines with him apparently “attacking” Barack. We know his words will be twisted so I have to say he should not even mention Barack. The campaign should focus from here on out on HILLARY, HILLARY, HILLARY. What she will do what she has done. If the media and Barack want a fight do not give it to them.

  272. Yeah, Teddy did lose in 1980 to Jimmy Carter. He couldn’t get himself nominated but now in 2008 when he’s 75 democrats will put a lot of thought into who he supports? Again if Obama wants to put his time into getting the endorsements of Kennedy & McCaskill et al then so be it. As long as Hillary is focused on getting those votes in Mass and MO thats just fine with me!

  273. Good news in CA:

    “In Monterey Park, several Asian American elected officials including State Board of Equalization Vice Chair Judy Chu and State Assemblymember Mike Eng held a press conference in which they announced their support for Hillary. Vice Chair Chu and Assemblymember Eng also discussed the campaign’s efforts to organize and mobilize Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders in Southern California.”

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=5555

  274. I am so excited that I get to vote tomorrow (it seems like I have been waiting forever! 😉 ) and that my state’s Senator is planning to endorse Hillary!

  275. Wasabigirl….yes, politics as usual. I was under the impression that it was up to the other delegates, that appears to be untrue. Still, I think Clinton sees Florida as a win-win. Even if they don’t get delegates seated, she will win some positive publicity and one more “win”. Also, I think it may be important down the road that she is the voice that is trying to prevent voters from being “disenfranchised”. Also, I think they feel they have a pretty good shot at getting their allies on the “board”. At least better than none. I would be very upset if Florida and Michigan get left out because of the DNC. I’m sure others would be as well.

  276. Especially after Florida’s experience in 2000, it would be crazy for the Democrats to disrespect their votes.

  277. You’re welcome, Kingsgrove. BTW, I saw a video from a MO TV station where they asked young people about the impact of Chelsea’s visit. Of course, they had a young male Obama supporter whining about how it’s three Clintons vs. Obama, lol.

  278. Paula,

    I absolutely loved when Chelsea put down the mike and went to talk to the Ron Paul supporters outside the shop! Too funny!

  279. In case anyone was wondering, Clair McCaskill endorsed Obama because she thinks Hillary will be a drag on the ticket in November. Of course, that’s based upon the premise that Obama’s negatives won’t rise precipitously once the GOP gets through with him, which is silly.

  280. Hey, Do you guys think Hillary planned a town hall in Mass. because she knew Kennedy would be endorsing Obama today? Nice “in your face” move, lol.

  281. By BRIAN ROSS
    Jan. 28, 2008

    A federal judge sent accused Illinois political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko to jail today after federal prosecutors accused him of violating his bail terms by a convoluted series of financial transactions with Mideast banks.

    Rezko has become an “Achilles heel” for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama after disclosures he and people associated with him had raised almost $200,000 for Obama and that Obama sought Rezko’s “help and advice” in the purchase of a new home.

    In a court hearing in Chicago, prosecutors detailed a $3.5 million wire transfer from a bank in Beirut, Lebanon that they said was moved through a series of accounts until it reached Rezko or some of his relatives who had posted property for his bond.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4204413&page=1

  282. By BRIAN ROSS (ABC News)
    Jan. 28, 2008

    A federal judge sent accused Illinois political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko to jail today after federal prosecutors accused him of violating his bail terms by a convoluted series of financial transactions with Mideast banks.

    Rezko has become an “Achilles heel” for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama after disclosures he and people associated with him had raised almost $200,000 for Obama and that Obama sought Rezko’s “help and advice” in the purchase of a new home.

    In a court hearing in Chicago, prosecutors detailed a $3.5 million wire transfer from a bank in Beirut, Lebanon that they said was moved through a series of accounts until it reached Rezko or some of his relatives who had posted property for his bond.

  283. Briasn Ross (story contd.)

    According to the court filings, the money came from a company, General Mediterranean, owned by a British-based Iraqi billionaire, Nadhmi Auchi, who was convicted in France on fraud charges.

    The filing says when Auchi was unable to obtain a visa to visit the United States in 2005, Rezko intervened and “asked certain Illinois government officials” to appeal the State Department’s ruling.

    The officials who Rezko approached are not specified. Sen. Obama had just taken office as a U.S. senator in 2005, the same year he sought Rezko’s help in the purchase of his home.

  284. No offense, but pay attention by reading other posts above you. I know these threads get long, but they get longer when info is repeated 2,3,..6 times.

  285. OkieAtty: That ABC news story has the potential to go nuclear. Of course it won’t because Obama has assured us that he never did any “favors” for Rezko. Well, ok so he wrote letters to get Rezko tens of millions of more dollars. That next to last paragraph is very suggestive.

    But this Auchi story is potentially explosive.

    Notice who the reporter on this story is: Brian Ross – chief investigative reporter for ABC.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4204413&page=1

    In court, prosecutors said Rezko had become a “flight risk” because of his secretive transactions in the Mideast.

    According to the court filings, the money came from a company, General Mediterranean, owned by a British-based Iraqi billionaire, Nadhmi Auchi, who was convicted in France on fraud charges.

    The filing says when Auchi was unable to obtain a visa to visit the United States in 2005, Rezko intervened and “asked certain Illinois government officials” to appeal the State Department’s ruling.

    The officials who Rezko approached are not specified. Sen. Obama had just taken office as a U.S. senator in 2005, the same year he sought Rezko’s help in the purchase of his home.

    The senator has said he was unable to afford both the home and an empty lot next to it which were effectively being sold as a package. Rezko’s wife ultimately bought the empty lot, closing the same day as Obama did on his home.

  286. Michigan and Florida are VERY important states in the GE. I think both are critical in order to win the Presidency, they are electoral vote rich.

    kaffeen…. Absolutely, which is why I have been so mystified by the DNCs decision to disenfranchise the state’s dem voters. Did you see the Republicans do that to either MI or FL. NOOOOOO…… because they can see further down the road than the primaries! The Republicans are MONTHS ahead of the Dem in organizing in Florida because of that ridiculous ban on campaigning in the state. Remember the primary organizations for the backbone of the GE organization for a candidate.

    The best thing that Hillary did for the democrats chances to win the elections in November was to come out and say she supported seating the delegates for both these states.

    Just my opinion.

  287. ADM: re: Rapid Responders, I think it would be a great idea to have phone numbers for contacting those people. We all can watch for downright media twists and such my messnbc, cnn and others and get those people notified.

    However, does anyone know how they’ll get the information out to the public.

  288. I’m listening to the Schnitt Show in Tampa,FL right now. It is a conservative radio show in Tampa but it reaches South Fl and some other states. He just teased the Rezco story that he said he first laid out last November. He said that this has the potential to come back and bite Obama. Also said that Fl state is a Hillary state and that Dean and DNC were stupid to strip the voters of Fl of their vote due to the importance of FL as a swing state. Duh!! Even the Republicans can see this.

  289. Orlando Sentinel Times has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Registration required to read article.

    Why is Obama suddenly calling Florida a beauty contest when he has been the one who broke the pledge and campaigned with tv ads there.

    Mrs. Clinton needs to hammer this home.

  290. NY NOW’s statement regarding Kennedy:

    “Women have just experienced the ultimate betrayal. Senator Kennedy’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton’s opponent in the Democratic presidential primary campaign has really hit women hard. Women have forgiven Kennedy, stuck up for him, stood by him, hushed the fact that he was late in his support of Title IX, the ERA, the Family Leave and Medical Act to name a few. Women have buried their anger that his support for the compromises in No Child Left Behind and the Medicare bogus drug benefit brought us the passage of these flawed bills. We have thanked him for his ardent support of many civil rights bills, BUT women are always waiting in the wings.

    “And now the greatest betrayal! We are repaid with his abandonment! He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton (they will of course say they support a woman president, just not “this” one). ‘They’ are Howard Dean and Jim Dean (Yup! That’s Howard’s brother) who run DFA (that’s the group and list from the Dean campaign that we women helped start and grow). They are Alternet, Progressive Democrats of America, democrats.com, Kucinich lovers and all the other groups that take women’s money, say they’ll do feminist and women’s rights issues one of these days, and conveniently forget to mention women and children when they talk about poverty or human needs or America’s future or whatever.

    “This latest move by Kennedy, is so telling about the status of and respect for women’s rights, women’s voices, women’s equality, women’s authority and our ability – indeed, our obligation – to promote and earn and deserve and elect, unabashedly, a President that is the first woman after centuries of men who ‘know what’s best for us.’”

  291. Also, Hillary needes to be hitting on that Sentate Foreign Affairs Committee or something that he headed that did not have any meetings at all.

    Where was he? Why no meetings? Did he decide it was more important to campaign or did the also delegate that important job or OH, did the just forget.

    This story should be put out there.

    also, I’m reading several articles today that says Hillarys campaign aides are saying that they do not think Feb 5 will decide the nominee…..

    if not, Rezco and company may blow up and really scar Obama

  292. NOW needs to run radio ads and let women know the betrayal of those like Kennedy. This will cause women to. unite. These endorsements are becoming sexist. It’s about keeping a woman out of the White House … no doubt about it.

  293. Hey, do we all remember during 2005 and early 2006, when Iraq was not going so well and the pentagon and the iraq strategy team were made up of bushies? doug fife…? al gore ripping them apart? when recent undergrads, from a familiar fraternity were running the war? The only elected politicians I remember seeing providing ANY push back were Hillary and McCain. Where were Romney, Obama etc back then? NO WHERE!!

    Oh my god, remember watching the sunday morning shows and seeing bushies everywhere? and then whenever they had someone with some actual knowledge like McCain and Hillary on, it was a breath of fresh air? remember that?

    i can’t understand why people can’t remember that.

  294. tps.. i remember you, bm, i and others discussing obama trying to help rezko’s associates getting some nuclear power plants deal??? if dat is true, obama can kiss his poltical career a goodbye!

  295. do48, It won’t decide the nominee because even if Hillary or Obama got the vast majority of the 1,600-plus delegates at stake they’d be hundreds short of clinching. Feb. 5, however, may produce a clear front-runner.

  296. gladiatorstail, this money from this iraqi billionaire Auchi is suspicious. What si this guy’s mid-east connections? Why is he getting so much money from these guys?

    Admin: Did Auchi get a visa? Did he come to US?

  297. Like Nikki, I am new to this group as well. I’ve been reading your messages but too intimidated to post – new to blogging and afraid that I will not to be able to articulate my point since English is my second language.

    I found your site a few weeks ago from Peggy Noonan who described this site as “Hillary’s War Room” -and since then I completely stopped watching CNN, MSNBC and stopped reading the HuffPost.

    I start and end my day by reading your comments. I am glad this is available. I was stressed out watching the media bias against Hillary. They are treating her the way they treated Gore and Kerry.

    I strongly feel that HRC will be the nom – and if that does not happen, I will vote for Romney or McCain and write in HRC is my first choice.

    In my circle – there are more people backing BO than HRC. Just like Caroline Kennedy, they are the educated elite who have read his book, who has been inspired by his speeches, “he is symbolic – good for the country, good for our relationship around the world, he isjust like JFK”…but unlike most America this educated elite can afford to get the best health care their money can buy.

    I am an RN working as a telephone triage nurse and I support HRC for her experience and her health care plan. My patient’s stories about their struggles with the health system lead me to tears sometimes and I want to stop crying!!! We need to get HRC in office NOW. A symbolic figure and an inspiring figure will not help the country right now. There is time for that after the mess has been cleaned up.

  298. Well, one nice thing about Big Media’s shiny new show pony, otherwise known as Obama.

    As Big Media keeps on building him up, some investigative reporter out there is just itching to tear it all down and win the accolades that will go with that. This could be the story to break some previously unknown reporter into the limelight and past all the people he/she is waiting on to die right now.

  299. Great stuff in the conference call! Great news about delegates, endorsements from SD’s and funds in January. I emailed the details to Admin for their review and they will post what they think is ok for the public board.

    PSD and Wolfson were the main speakers.

  300. From the Orlando Sentinel endorsement of HRC!

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-ed20208jan20,0,4340194.story

    “Mrs. Clinton’s closest rival, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, is a highly gifted orator. His appeals to rise above partisanship are welcome and inspiring.

    But Mr. Obama has not always taken advantage of opportunities to demonstrate bipartisanship himself, as when he declined to join a group of senators from both parties who defused a conflict over judicial nominations. Last year, the National Journal ranked him the 10th most liberal senator. Mrs. Clinton was ranked 32nd.

    Mr. Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004 and still does not have a major legislative achievement to his name. It’s not clear from his record that he is ready to lead the Free World.”

  301. TPS, Auchi is #287 on Forbes list. Here is some information from Guardian.

    Allow me to introduce you to Nadhmi Auchi. He was charged in the 1950s with being an accomplice of Saddam Hussein, when the future tyrant was acquiring his taste for blood. He was investigated in the 1980s for his part in alleged bribes to the fabulously corrupt leaders of post-war Italy. In the 1990s, the Belgium Ambassador to Luxembourg claimed that Auchi’s bank held money Saddam and Colonel Gadaffi had stolen from their luckless peoples. In 2002, officers from the Serious Fraud Squad raided the offices of one of Auchi’s drug companies as part of an investigation of what is alleged to be the biggest swindle ever of the NHS. With allegations, albeit unproven, like these hanging over him, wouldn’t you think that British MPs would have the sense to stay away?

  302. As it seems to to be effective, I am again going to post Senator Kennedy’s phone #’s. His office is supposedly being swamped with those who are angry and disappointed at his betrayal of a fellow workhorse in the Senate. His Washington # is 1-202-224-4543 and his MA # is 1-617-565-3170.
    Come on people, we must, we must be united in our disgust at this betrayal and sham of an endorsement.
    I hope you will join in and call Senator Kennedy’s offices and express your feelings about this unusual endorsement. It seems to be more a punishment for the Clinton’s than an actual belief that this puppy is really the thing to vote for. Please call, it can only help, not hurt. What Senator Kennedy does not realize is that there is going to be a backlash against this endorsement, and I am not going to vote for BHO no matter what. I know, I say that now, but I have reached the point of going ‘postal’ due to the all-day coronation of BHO by MSNBC. Please call Kennedy’s offices and express your outrage and disappointment at this sham of an endorsement. I apologize to those who may think I am going overboard, but I was so very disappointed upon hearing of this endorsement that I have taken to the road of action.
    CALL SENATOR KENNEDY’S OFFICE AND VOICE YOUR DISSENT IF THAT IS THE WAY YOU FEEL!

  303. He was the 4th senator to vote on it. Hill came in a little later and was chatting for a while with Chris Dodd.

  304. socal4hill welcome.. the latte liberals are in minority in this country.. not everyone makes it to harvard.. and the best of those end up supporting hillary :).. the mediocres keep riding their volvos and sipping starbucks coffee.. carrying obamas book in one hand!

  305. Also, I forgot to mention that MSNBC has spent the day coronating Obama. It is really disgusting.
    They have not given the other candidates equal time. I guess Obama has come around to thinking that the elders are not so bad after all. He looks to the future through the past. Puppy.

  306. called Kennedy’s offices…both of them. Could tell they are exasperated!!!! Keep calling folks, call both numbers and send faxes if you have a fax machine.

  307. anyone have clips of the rezko coverage todday-my cable aint working right now! friends tell me they have seen many rezko stories today and are ebing educated.

  308. “For too many years, too many Americans have been invisible to their own government. In this primary, some even tried to silence our state,” Nelson said in the remarks. “Hillary Clinton will never let that happen. Hillary will be a president who will take the voice of all Americans — and all Floridians — to the White House.”

  309. amen, the mrs! Call and fax as well! I posted the fax # upthread, and sent him a letter. I am PISSED OFF. That he would endorse a 2 year senator over a more experienced woman who has done nothing but work and contribute to the Democratic Party on a national level for 15 years is a SLAP in the face to women.

    Teddy needs to hear about it, loud and clear.

  310. I think the DC insiders and establishment Democrats will be surprised by the avalanche of protest Sen. Kennedy is getting.

    I’m not saying they will learn from it, because they won’t. But it’s nice to think they will have to sit through the SOTU thinking about it 🙂

    The NY NOW statement rocks!

  311. As I think about what’s happening in the Democratic campaign – with a significant portion of the Obama and Hillary camps very well entrenched and quite opposed to one another – I realized which one gets the lion’s share of blame about this sorry state of affairs – THE MEDIA.

    The Media failed in its duty to inform and vet and deal with facts.

    Whenever Clinton supporters look at the raw facts, it’s simply hard for them to agree with the narrative spun by the Obama camp and the MSM (Clinton is the dirtier campaigner, Clinton relies on race-baiting, Clinton attacked first, Clinton lies more often, Obama’s position on Iraq was very consistent through out, etc). We know that the facts not only does not support the narrative, it actually supports the diametrical opposite (Obama is the dirtier campaigner, Obama relies on race-baiting, Obama attacked first, etc, etc).

    Whenever Obama supporters listen to the majority of the punditry in the Media, listen to the skewed reporting from all sides and eventually buy in to the narrative, it’s hard for them to reconcile that with the fact that it’s actually Obama who is the dirtier campaigner, the one who relies on race-baiting, the one who attacked first, etc. It’s harder to get to the raw facts when pre-digested, albeit very skewed analysis in Obama’s favor are ready and available from practically all fronts.

    Campaigns engage in little shenanigans hear and there and when the Media is complicit, it can only lead to a very divisive atmosphere and a divided electorate. I’ve always regarded this site’s continuous reference to Big Media as mere posturing or hyperbole but now I get it. Now, I truly get it from both sides of the campaign fence.

  312. I thought they did not like going back to ’90s but they want to go back to ’60s. How about their message about future.

  313. also noticed today that Edwards has stolen Hillary’s” Voices of America” theme. He is campaigning using her exact message. She should mention that in the debate.

    I’m sure Hillary is going to be asked in the debate if Sen Kennedy endorsement of Obama hurts her so I hope she has a dignified answer ready…but also an answer that skewers Kennedy to the wall….she could maybe site the NOW statement and say that upon preponderance of it all, she’s better of without it.

    maybe I’m reaching here LOL

  314. Go to Ted Kennedy’s website to send him an email message
    http://kennedy.senate.gov
    There is a “contact senator kennedy” button on the left side of the page. It took me a few tries but my message finally got through. Don’t give up. I think I might call his office too.

  315. Perhaps Hillary is holding back some “high visiblility” endorsers until after Tuesday. One big endorser each day till Super Tuesday. People who command coverage by the media. More powerful surrogates for national media print and national press and some high ranked military brass to campaign on her behalf till Super Tuesday.

  316. dot48 – Yea, the NOW statement is great. I think this endorsement hurts Ted more than HRC. Like Rezco is a window into who Obama really is, this endorsement now shows all the women’s rights orgs in D.C. who he really is. HRC can win without a man who killed his gf in a car accident and has had to hide behind orgs like NOW to appear like a man who supports women and children’s rights. All of these old men are the same. They’d rather support another man they know little about over a woman.

  317. ouch! Dkos is really taking a beating on their numbers.

    I bet this website community has a better rate of visitors than Dkos.

    admin, i saw somewhere that this website will be up for renewal in march. is that true? and will we still have this place after that?

  318. Realist, or someone, is that SD … super delegate endorsement?

    Also, can the super delegate change their mind after they commit?

  319. true2party, we’ll be around after March. A lot of people hope we disappear, but we’re not going anywhere (except 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue). 🙂

  320. DKos is dying a slow death, and the head Kook thinks it’s just a little primary spat and all those people will come back later. He is dead wrong. He let his blog be taken over by lunatics, and he will pay the price.

    BTW – go give some money to MyDD if you can! Those guys have made an attempt to be fair!

  321. What I think Hillary need to do at the debates(btw is this the last one) is give Obama a real big stare down and make him so agitated that he mouth off the words “BYTCH”.Hillary seem to be the type of woman that can break a man down easily and that scares the hell out of these men dems and repub’s.People in the media keep saying that Hillary cant be the repub’s but this same media was the ones that was so in bush’s arse for like 6-7 years.I think the media is trying to play reverse psychology here by saying Hillary is not a real threat but Obama is…………………YES IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY FALL FOR THE LIE.

  322. their numbers have declined and some are wondering why. a lot of people are leaving b/c it’s so violent there now and the sexism is rampant. there’s at least one diary per day (that i’ve seen) from a person who complains about it. there’s a couple diaries about it, but i don’t want to create traffic there, so i’m not linking to it…..also, my pc doesn’t have full access to it…it’s blocked which means i can only see headlines, not content….my pc is buggy. it would help if i unblocked it, but i don’t want to. 🙂

  323. Hah. I called Kennedy and launched into his failure to support women’s issues. The guy on the line tried to assure me that his endorsement had nothing to do with “gender”. I let him have, saying that Kennedy has sat on his hands while a major female leader in the Democratic Party been viciously attacked on gender grounds including “cackling” and “cleavage”. I assured him that as a Massachusetts voter who has always voted for Kennedy, I will never vote for him again and that it is high time the all-boys club of Democratic Party politics stops ignoring women, who make up nearly 60% of the Democratic Party voters.

  324. guess who’s not coming to dinner here in atlanta at the jefferson-jackson dinner? My Precious, shiny new pony, cousin pookie….

    ok, i’m leaving work now. everybody have a good night.

    …now, what’s for dinner…..and traffic is going to suck….hmmmm….

  325. IM on DKOS, and that site has become TRASH! It’s ObamaKos now, with a bunch of 20 year guys (im a 22yo guy) thrashing Hillary and praising Obama, they adopted Right wing talk in their attacks, that has turned alot of REAL dems off, including myself. But Its kind of like a car crush, i can’t turn away

  326. HWC, that’s awasome! I’m also a mass voter, and i hope Teddy retires, i do like him, but its time for someone new to take that seat

  327. HWC, that’s awsome! I’m also a mass voter, and i hope Teddy retires, i do like him, but its time for someone new to take that seat

  328. January 28, 2008
    Hillary Speaks Before the State of the Union

    Thank you. It is so good to be here in Hartford, back in Connecticut. I am thrilled to see all of you. I want to thank Nancy for her really kind words, but the part of it that touched me the most was when she said that she wanted me to be the president for her grandchildren. That is something that I so deeply treasure. Thank you, Nancy. It is wonderful to be back with your Attorney General. Dick and I went to law school together in New Haven at Yale. I have followed his distinguished public career here in Connecticut with such admiration. He is generally believed to be best attorney general in the entire United States of America.

    I appreciate greatly what he has been doing and particularly his point about how you have to be willing to fight for what you believe in. Dick and I have joined together against the Broadwater Plan in the South, which we don’t think is in the best interest of New York and Connecticut, of our environment, or of our future. It is an honor to be standing side by side with him and a lot of these important fights for Connecticut and New York and America.

    The rest of the speech is here

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=5547

  329. H4T, I will donate money to MyDD. They have been more than fair. We should also give money to Taylor Marsh.

    May I also suggest somthing else?

    Every Hillary supporter who visits here should avoid MSNBC, DKos, TPM, Huffington Post. This will reduce their Nielsen Ratings or web visits and automatically reduce their impact and ad dollars.

    Let us not watch MSNBC, let us not go to their website. Same thing for the other sites. This will reduce their viewership and web traffic.

    Let us instead visit Taylor Marsh, MyDD, Talk Left, Open Left, Left Coaster, archangel (am i saying this right?) and of course this website.

    What do you think?

  330. As well DKOS should suffer, as it has become an absolute loony bin.
    I began directly (and very specifically) confronting KOS over his widespread and downright inaccurate statements (which were splashed all over Newsweek, the WAPO, on MTP & Tim Russert’s show, as well as on his site) regarding HRC well over a year ago. No response.
    Their favorite tactic is to shout down or just ignore that which doesn’t support their arguments.
    Last week I predicted on their site they will pay a heavy price for their blind support of Obama, in the face of significant reason.
    I got cursed out pretty good for my troubles.
    Obama circle jerk on Hardball right now” Barnicle, Robinson, Todd & Tweety.

  331. I agree TPS, I still use Dkos, but am trying to use it less and less, though there are a few dedicated Hillary supporters there. I should tell em about this site.

  332. Yep. I refuse to give MSNBC or CNN or DKos or TPM or HuffPo the web hits.

    If there is something important posted there, I’ll hear of it eventually via some other site. BTW, if you get regular email from any of these anti-Hillary groups like HuffPo, UNSUBSCRIBE. Same goes for the DNC, Kerry, Kennedy, all of them. UNSUBSCRIBE

  333. Boycotting every outlet that is critical of Hillary is silly, short-sighted, and counterproductive IMO, and sounds for all the world like the kind of thing Barry’s kids would do. If Hillary can stand the heat, we should be able to withstand it too, plus it will be all the more satisfying to hear them eat crow on 2/5. I have previously suggested that we view BM as unintentional satire and think of how John Stewart will ridicule their excesses at 11pm et. with REAL satire.

  334. I called Senator Kennedy (sorry Kingsgrove) and then read this entire thread. It was busy the first few times but I finally got through to a man who said not one word.

    I said it was a slap to all women.

    What I didn’t say was if Obama was the woman and Hillary the man, there is no way this endorsement would have happened. Feel free to make that point.

    I also didn’t say that if there was some unifying appeal detected with Obama, he hasn’t heard the hurt and fury of women who will no longer support a party that rejects them. Another free thought.

    Lastly, why would a man respond to charges of age and spinelessness by endorsing the man who said it? And why would he endorse a campaign that began by asking reporters to go after Bill Clinton’s private life after his presidency?

  335. A couple of thoughts about the latest mind boggling things happening regarding the ANTI-Hillary/PRO-Obama business:

    I’m with the rest of you re: Ted and Caroline Kennedy endorsing Obama. And the speech Ted gave actually putting down the Clintons I hope will be something to bite them on the ass WHEN HILLARY DOES BECOME PRESIDENT!!! Thanks for the phone #. I will be calling Mr. Kennedy’s office, too, because my blood has been boiling since he and his niece have endorsed Obama.

    On Morning Joe, they talked about Rezko and just lumped the Clintons together with Obama in relation to him!! Just because the Clintons had their photo taken with Rezko, they are “assuming” they have a crooked relationship with him??? Hey, I’ve had my photo taken with Hillary, too, and met her many times but I am sure she wouldn’t recognize me if she saw me and we certainly don’t “know each other”. Joe Scarborough’s continued HATRED for the Clintons – mainly Bill – is deploring in my opinion! There is no fairness in reporting and it is not right to show blatant bias for one candidate over the other!

    This putting down of Hillary with the talking heads saying why does she NEED her husband to protect her? Why did Ted Kennedy call Bill and not Hillary? All this CRAP – all AGAINST Hillary and Bill – makes me sick to my stomach!! These pundits are lucky they are not meeting me in person because the police would have to pull me off them!!

    My blood is boiling that the fact some of the Kennedys have also endorsed HILLARY but that is going unnoticed. When Hilary Rosen commented on TUCKER than “some of the Kennedys are endorsing Hillary, too” – Tucker had to say “yeah the less ones!”

    I am wondering if my blood pressure will hold up before this primary is over!!! I am seething from anger and the unfairness of it all!!

    And one more comment. Ted and Caroline are comparing Obama to JFK and RFK. Look what happened to THEM!!!

  336. I am bothered by how the media is treating RFK’s children (Robert, Kathleen, Kerry) just because they are endorsing Hillary — they also lost their father to this country. In fact, all of them are involved in politics for the betterment of people — Kathleen was Lt. Governor of MD and made quite a mark and unfortunately lost the gubernatorial race mostly because she was a woman and she did not have the gift of gab. I would like to know what Caroline Kennedy has done with her visibility and clout? Nothing much really. It is all disgusting.

  337. “The risks of his hypothetical presidency are higher, but the potential payoff is greater: He could be the next Jack Kennedy—or the next Jimmy Carter.”

    Kennedy or Carter — which one was the ‘great payoff?’ JFK avoided a nuclear war after blundering to the brink of one. Jimmy Carter told the Soviet Union, ‘don’t even think about seizing the arab oil fields’ — and guess what, they didn’t even think about. And imagine the Middle East today if Egypt and Egypt were still enemies.

  338. Sorry, I meant “if Egypt and Israel were still enemies.” Anway, I don’t see any potential payoff in Obama.

  339. Hi everybody. I just wanted to mention how distressing it is to me to see, not only hateful responses to on-line pieces about Bill and Hillary, but also, responses defending and praising Hill yet using disgusting, racially disparaging name-calling on Obama. We are so careful here, which makes me proud. I wish we could keep other supportes in check. (Although I sometimes wonder if these are not “trolls”, who want to make it appear like Hill’s supporters are disgusting.)

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