[South Carolina votes today. We’ll cover the primary in South Carolina when the polls close. Jesse Jackson received 64% of the vote in South Carolina in 1988. Will Obama get less than 64% of the vote? We’ll know tonight.]
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It is a constant source of amazement how dense Big Blogs are. Even when you spell things out for them in Pink and Black, they still don’t get it. Some, like Josh Marshall are simple Obama shills not wanting to face the facts. Other Big Blogs are simply not that bright. Case in point: the seating of Florida delegates at the Democratic National Convention.
Right after the epic New Hampshire victory we wrote What Happened? What Happens Next? We suggested Hillary should declare that the Michigan delegation to the Democratic convention should be seated. Hillary should demand that all candidates agree that the Democrats of Michigan should not be disenfranchised. Make Michigan a big deal.
We understood at the time that Michigan was a more complex situation because Obama and Edwards had removed their names, stupidly, from the Michigan ballot. Here is the gist of our argument and what the ninny Big Blogs (and ninny Big Media) still don’t get:
Force Obama and Edwards to say whether the Democrats of Michigan and Florida should be disenfranchised – NOW – Before the Michigan and Florida primaries.
Let the Democrats of Michigan and Florida know who is fighting for them and their rights to representation. New Hampshire and Iowa also violated the calendar the DNC set up and have not been punished by having their right to representation at the Democratic convention abolished. Restore the rights of Michigan and Florida Democrats. [snip]
[Why do we suggest the above? Once the voting starts the race becomes about acquiring the delegates that will vote to elect the nominee at the Democratic convention. Hillary needs to secure the massive delegations from Michigan and Florida. The way to do that is to fight for them. Obama, via John Conyers, will run an advertising campaign to try to get the Michigan voters to vote noncommitted, not for Hillary, in their primary and deprive Hillary of a Michigan victory. Hillary has to fight for the votes in Michigan and Florida and demonstrate that Obama has not and will not support the voters of Michigan and Florida.]
Hopefully the above is sufficient for ninny Big Blogs. Florida newspapers will discuss the fight over Florida delegates and the right of Florida to be represented at the Democratic convention. Florida voters will see Hillary fighting for their rights. Florida voters will see Obama fighting to DISENFRANCISE Florida delegates. Get it? In November Florida voters will remember.
Nationally the Florida delegate disenfrancisement might not make too many headlines. But where it counts, in Florida, the voters will see Hillary fighting for them, Obama fighting against them. This will have consequences in Florida in November and this coming Tuesday at the Florida primaries. Do we need to make this any clearer?
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Meanwhile it is clear that Josh Marshall is a know nothing Obama shill. Josh Marshall is now writing the Obama Talking Points Memo. Think we are being unfair? Read Marshall’s first sentence in yesterday’s front page post. Marshall thinks he is now a an Obama Field Marshal issuing directives to the troops:
The Clinton camp really needs to be shut down on this new gambit of theirs to muscle the party and the other candidates into seating the Michigan and Florida delegate slates.
And let me be very clear about what I mean. It was very debatable decision whether the DNC should have punished Florida and Michigan with the loss of their delegates slates because they broke the rules the party had set down for scheduling their primaries. By ‘debatable’ I don’t mean it was right or wrong, only that it was a pretty draconian move and I know there was a lot of discussion about whether or not it was the right thing to do.
But that was the decision — one that each of the candidates at least implicitly agreed to. Indeed, each agreed not to campaign in either of these states, again implicitly agreeing to the decision not to seat the delegates.
The Clinton camp is just pushing to seat these delegates now because the contingencies of the moment mean that the decision would favor Hillary. She was the only one whose name was on the ballot in Michigan, thus insuring her win. She has a wide lead in every Florida poll taken this month.
Even Michigan was a matter of her basically pulling a fast one on the other candidates by not taking her name off the ballot. Each of the major candidates signed a pledge not to “campaign or participate” in any primary or caucus prior to Feb. 5th except for Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. The other major candidates adopted what seems like the only reasonable interpretation of the pledge (see text here) and pulled their names from the ballot.
But then Hillary didn’t, thus in essence guaranteeing her win in Michigan.
The Clinton campaign said taking her name off the ballot wasn’t required by the pledge. But what can “participate” mean over and above “campaigning” other than formally being a candidate in the race?
In any case, by gaming the process Clinton already insured her win in Michigan, though it seemed only for a symbolic victory, not real delegates.
Josh Marshall is disqualified from discussing politics. He is either a mendacious shill or a total ninny. Marshall either does not have the facts but still discusses what he does not know anything about or Marshall is deliberately deluding his readers.
We discussed the Michigan situation regarding Obama’s stupidity and his and Edwards attempts to mug Hillary on October 14, 2007. We wrote:
These clumsy Obama and Edwards campaigns are desperate and it shows every day. Earlier last week, having failed with their “policy” arguments they tried to help themselves in Iowa by playing “tactical” games in Michigan. They shot themselves in the foot. The Flint Journal editorialized:
Obama, John Edwards, Bill Richardson and Joe Biden “apparently are all but conceding” the Dem nomination to HRC. Otherwise, “they wouldn’t have made such a shortsighted and cowardly decision” to remove their names from MI’s primary ballot. Only a “desperate longshot would deliberately offend residents of a state crucial to electing the next” POTUS. HRC “notably wasn’t too intimidated” by the DNC or “afraid of upsetting the voters” in NH, IA, SC or NV. Conversely, the decisions of Obama, Edwards, Richardson and Biden “suggests that they know it’s nearly over for them”.
The clumsy “campaigns” indulged themselves in silly games and shot themselves in the foot. Typical.
Check out the link in the above (which appeared in our original post in October) to understand the full stupidity of the Obama/Edward camps. Marshall did not bother to inform himself with facts before attacking Hillary. [Here is the key sentence Josh, educate yourself: The campaign for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, arguably fearing a poor showing in Michigan, reached out to the others with a desire of leaving New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as the only candidate on the ballot. The hope was that such a move would provide one more political obstacle for the Clinton campaign to overcome in Iowa.]
Obama’s Talking Points Memo was not content with only 1 article on the Florida situation. There was another equally stupid article issuing directives to the Obama troops:
A cynic would note that Hillary was the only major candidate whose name was on the ballot in Michigan, running against “uncommitted,” and that she is also favored to win Florida after none of the candidates campaigned in the state.
Obama’s Talking Points Memo is wrong again and pushing a big Michigan-sized lie. Disgusting.
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Here is what Hillary actually said, fighting for the rights of voters in Florida:
“I hear all the time from people in Florida and Michigan that they want their voices heard in selecting the Democratic nominee.
“I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan. I know not all of my delegates will do so and I fully respect that decision. But I hope to be President of all 50 states and U.S. territories, and that we have all 50 states represented and counted at the Democratic convention.
“I hope my fellow potential nominees will join me in this.
“I will of course be following the no-campaigning pledge that I signed, and expect others will as well.”
While Hillary fights for the right of voters to be counted, Obama is fighting to disenfrancise the voters from 2 big electoral vote states while at the same time engaging in a personal attack against Hillary:
“Whether it is Barack Obama’s record, her position on Social Security, or even the meaning of the Florida Primary, it seems like Hillary Clinton will do or say anything to win an election.”
Where are those hacks like Obama’s Talking Points Memo and assorted politicians who defend Obama now that Obama is making a personal attack on Hillary? “New Politics” indeed.
Where is John Edwards on this issue? Where is the self-styled tribune of the people on disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan voters? Speak up BEFORE the Florida primary John. Don’t blink on this one.
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As we wrote Florida newspapers will inform Florida voters about Hillary fighting for Florida. Florida newspapers will also inform Florida voters that Obama wants to disenfranchise them.
Florida is a crucial state for Democrats (Does anyone in the Obama campaign remember the 2000 election?)
The Florida Democratic Party knows Hillary is fighting for the rights of Florida voters and Obama is fighting to disenfrancise Florida voters:
CLINTON COMMITS TO SEATING FLORIDA’S DELEGATES AT CONVENTION
TALLAHASSEE – U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton today publicly committed to seating Florida’s and Michigan’s delegates at the 2008 Democratic National Convention.
“I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan,” the Senator said in a statement.
Florida will send 210 delegates and 31 alternates to the Convention. While the Democratic National Committee Rules & Bylaws Committee reduced Florida’s delegation, the Florida Democratic Party is confident that all of Florida’s delegates will be seated in Denver.
“We thank Senator Clinton for her support and commitment to the Sunshine State,” Florida Democratic Chairwoman Karen Thurman said. “Florida will play an extremely important role in this election. The incredible Democratic primary turnout across the state of Florida and in all of the early primary states is proving that this entire nation is hungry for change. The nation needs Florida, and Florida is ready to deliver.”
United States Senator Bill Nelson of Florida will endorse Sen. Hillary Clinton for president. Senator Nelson was quoted recently saying that his endorsement would depend on “how [the candidates] treat Florida.” Senator Nelson now has his answer. Hillary Clinton Fights for the Rights of Florida Voters – Obama will disenfranchise Florida voters – Edwards is AWOL.
A press release issued by Senator Nelson stated “happy to see that Clinton agrees with the principle at issue in his lawsuit – that every person has a right to vote, and have the vote count as intended.”
Obama is instructing Florida Republicans (as he has done in numerous other states) to become “Democrats for a Day”. Obama does not care about Democrats. Obama only cares about himself. Obama will disenfranchise Florida Democratic voters while inciting Republicans to sneak into our party to make inexperienced Obama our nominee. Shame.
Florida voters will, thanks to Florida Big Media, know that Obama is never there when you need him. Obama can’t tell a green “Yes” button from a “Red” no button when he is voting. Florida voters will press the “Red” No button on Obama.
Obama’s Talking Points Memo is fighting to silence Florida voters.
Voter disenfranchisement in Florida must end. Hooray for Hillary.