Comments on: Hillary Clinton: Tested And Ready http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/ We started this website because we believe Senator Hillary Clinton will be an excellent 44th President of the United States. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:52:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » A Face In The Crowd http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-48348 Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » A Face In The Crowd Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:14:39 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-48348 [...] organizer” days. Where are the testimonials from people Obama supposedly helped? We know practically nothing about Obama, other than what he has written himself - and that is in many respects crafted, bogus, [...] [...] organizer” days. Where are the testimonials from people Obama supposedly helped? We know practically nothing about Obama, other than what he has written himself – and that is in many respects crafted, bogus, [...]

]]> By: Kentucky_mkt http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-28322 Kentucky_mkt Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:43:35 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-28322 While I may be guilty a little of this too on here, my wish for the New Year is that we stop using the slurs against our competitors. I know it is easy to slip into that. We don't need to do this at all. I was at a NYE party tonight. And, once I actually discussed a few points about our girl, I left with a few more HRC supporters in tow. These were male, GWB voting Repugs too!!! All I did was explain HRC's positions on fiscal conservatism and her TAG involvement. The object of my persuasion was amazed: "Really, I didn't know Hillary was all about that." This is easy my friends. For the NY, my wish is that we will have substantive policy discussions on big pink!!! We are on the right side of the issues. We'll win if we just tell everyone why! God Bless You All. When women vote 4 women, women win! While I may be guilty a little of this too on here, my wish for the New Year is that we stop using the slurs against our competitors. I know it is easy to slip into that. We don’t need to do this at all.

I was at a NYE party tonight. And, once I actually discussed a few points about our girl, I left with a few more HRC supporters in tow. These were male, GWB voting Repugs too!!! All I did was explain HRC’s positions on fiscal conservatism and her TAG involvement. The object of my persuasion was amazed: “Really, I didn’t know Hillary was all about that.”

This is easy my friends. For the NY, my wish is that we will have substantive policy discussions on big pink!!! We are on the right side of the issues. We’ll win if we just tell everyone why!

God Bless You All.

When women vote 4 women, women win!

]]> By: pm http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27943 pm Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:34:46 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27943 filbertsf, I agree the blog is not all that well written but her main point is reflected in other blogs/posts as well. Obama is a media generated curiosity item which may not necessarily translate to caucus goers and ultimately votes (which is good news for Hillary and I like that). So the big crowds are actually damaging to his candidacy. filbertsf, I agree the blog is not all that well written but her main point is reflected in other blogs/posts as well. Obama is a media generated curiosity item which may not necessarily translate to caucus goers and ultimately votes (which is good news for Hillary and I like that). So the big crowds are actually damaging to his candidacy.

]]> By: wbboei http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27936 wbboei Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:20:14 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27936 pm: the final verdict on Knocksville may be that in a state where many people are struggling ecomomically, and wondering how they will make ends meet, Solomic verses and glittering generalities are not enough to close the deal. Curiousity is one thing. Commitment is something else. And the caucus system as it has been explained to me requires not only experience, but above all comittment. pm: the final verdict on Knocksville may be that in a state where many people are struggling ecomomically, and wondering how they will make ends meet, Solomic verses and glittering generalities are not enough to close the deal. Curiousity is one thing. Commitment is something else. And the caucus system as it has been explained to me requires not only experience, but above all comittment.

]]> By: filbertsf http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27935 filbertsf Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:19:37 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27935 pm, I think May-Fowler wrote a very poorly-written blog. I didn't know where she was going or what she was driving with that piece. She talks about the older lady who met FDR and who thinks Obama is the next FDR. She talks about how crowded the room was and about how she was feeling inspired. Then taking a sharp turn without really providing the reasons, May-Fowler ponders whether these people will actually caucus for Obama. pm, I think May-Fowler wrote a very poorly-written blog. I didn’t know where she was going or what she was driving with that piece. She talks about the older lady who met FDR and who thinks Obama is the next FDR. She talks about how crowded the room was and about how she was feeling inspired. Then taking a sharp turn without really providing the reasons, May-Fowler ponders whether these people will actually caucus for Obama.

]]> By: pm http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27923 pm Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:59:12 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27923 looks like there is a lot of curiosity about OHB and not enough commitment from his big crowds. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-fails-to-close-the-_b_78784.html looks like there is a lot of curiosity about OHB and not enough commitment from his big crowds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-fails-to-close-the-_b_78784.html

]]> By: wbboei http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27918 wbboei Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:44:39 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27918 Too many good postings today-and too little time to respond to all but two, briefly: Texan@1:00: what more proof do we need now that Russert et. al. are fully invested in OB, and have lost any pretense of objectivity. A sign should be hung around their collective necks with the words "Barry's Amen Corner" prominently displayed, so there is truth in advertising. LawSchoolDem@1:11: it isn't the fact that Matthews was rejected for press secretary in the Clinton White House that surprises me, but the fact that he ever applied for it in the first instance. This is a guy who could get in a fight in a phone booth. And, the Clinton team had standards of competence which he could never meet. Thus, the vendetta. But I am not suggesting he should give up on the idea. I believe he would be a great press secretary in the Bush White House, and I would encourage him to pursue it when Dana Perino steps down. He could stand in front of the press corps like David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell, Suzanne Malvaux, Helen Thomas, et. al. and shout, scream, cut them off, blather, provide a mountain of disinformation change the subject whenever it got close to the truth. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Too many good postings today-and too little time to respond to all but two, briefly:

Texan@1:00: what more proof do we need now that Russert et. al. are fully invested in OB, and have lost any pretense of objectivity. A sign should be hung around their collective necks with the words “Barry’s Amen Corner” prominently displayed, so there is truth in advertising.

LawSchoolDem@1:11: it isn’t the fact that Matthews was rejected for press secretary in the Clinton White House that surprises me, but the fact that he ever applied for it in the first instance. This is a guy who could get in a fight in a phone booth. And, the Clinton team had standards of competence which he could never meet. Thus, the vendetta.

But I am not suggesting he should give up on the idea. I believe he would be a great press secretary in the Bush White House, and I would encourage him to pursue it when Dana Perino steps down. He could stand in front of the press corps like David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell, Suzanne Malvaux, Helen Thomas, et. al. and shout, scream, cut them off, blather, provide a mountain of disinformation change the subject whenever it got close to the truth. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

]]> By: Sherm Kader http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27909 Sherm Kader Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:27:48 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27909 I understand the caucus rulebook has 72 pages. It can't be very simple. The responsible people and for each candidate probably need to learn a lot of that unless there is an impartial judge and adviser at each precinct. I understand the caucus rulebook has 72 pages. It can’t be very simple. The responsible people and for each candidate probably need to learn a lot of that unless there is an impartial judge and adviser at each precinct.

]]> By: admin http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27903 admin Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:23:42 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27903 hwc, as you write, there are so many complications with regards to the caucuses that the more you look at the rules and practices one fact stands out: the need for experience. With such complicated rules and permutations what matters is that the campaign have smart experienced people who know how to avoid traps and pitfalls and maximize advantages. Once again it comes down to experience. hwc, as you write, there are so many complications with regards to the caucuses that the more you look at the rules and practices one fact stands out: the need for experience.

With such complicated rules and permutations what matters is that the campaign have smart experienced people who know how to avoid traps and pitfalls and maximize advantages.

Once again it comes down to experience.

]]> By: hwc http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/12/30/hillary-clinton-tested-and-ready/#comment-27901 hwc Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:17:11 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=418#comment-27901 <blockquote>Let’s say Hillary, O and E all have the requisite 15% in the room. Biden, Dodd, and K come up short. Does that mean they take the second choice of people who were planning to vote for B, D, and K?</blockquote> Yes. If you are standing in Biden's corner and he doesn't get to 15%, you have the option of moving to another candidate's corner...perhaps even induced to do so by the promise of your local mayor (supporting a candidate) to scratch your back in some way. BTW, it's important to remember that this 15% rule doesn't apply to all precincts. It varies depending on the size of the precincts and how many delegates are awarded. Another thing that happens. Suppose Hillary has more than enough people in a precinct to get 10 delegates, but not enough to get 11. She can send her "extra" people over to another candidate (say Edwards instead of Obama) and still have her 10 delegates. Lots of games.

Let’s say Hillary, O and E all have the requisite 15% in the room. Biden, Dodd, and K come up short. Does that mean they take the second choice of people who were planning to vote for B, D, and K?

Yes. If you are standing in Biden’s corner and he doesn’t get to 15%, you have the option of moving to another candidate’s corner…perhaps even induced to do so by the promise of your local mayor (supporting a candidate) to scratch your back in some way.

BTW, it’s important to remember that this 15% rule doesn’t apply to all precincts. It varies depending on the size of the precincts and how many delegates are awarded.

Another thing that happens. Suppose Hillary has more than enough people in a precinct to get 10 delegates, but not enough to get 11. She can send her “extra” people over to another candidate (say Edwards instead of Obama) and still have her 10 delegates.

Lots of games.

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