Is Barack Obama A Closeted Ripublican

Update: Our counterattack begins.

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Readers of Big Pink have known for months of the chaos, confusion, and complaints at Barack Obama Chicago Central Headquarters. Barack Obama has denied and denounced all claims of a campaign beset by complaints. However, yesterday, the New York Times confirmed earlier reports on Big Pink about the chaos at B.O. central. According to the New York Times His [Obama] senior aides said they were now spending much of their day fielding calls from concerned donors and other supporters…” and that Morale at his Chicago headquarters, aides said, has been dragged down by the perception that Mrs. Clinton is lapping Mr. Obama.

The Obama interview in the New York Times, staggering in the level of desperate whining and desperate mistruths, is yet another [See, The Boston Globe and Time Magazine ] Obama promise to revive his long dead campaign.

Senator Barack Obama said he would start confronting Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton more directly and forcefully, saying Friday that she had not been candid in describing her views on critical policy issues, as he tries to address mounting alarm among supporters that his lack of assertiveness so far has allowed her to dominate the presidential race.

Mr. Obama’s vow to go on the offensive comes just over two months before the first votes are cast for the Democratic nomination, and after a long period in which his aides, donors and other supporters have battled — and in some cases shared — the perception that he has not exhibited the aggressiveness demanded by presidential politics.

After all the many lies and denials concerning internal struggles with chaos, confusion, and complaints, Obama is not to be believed.

Like a common street hustler ripping off tourists in a streetside shell game, Obama skips from issue to issue trying to make a profit. Obama’s latest ball in his shell game is Social Security.

I don’t think people know what her agenda exactly is,” Mr. Obama continued, citing Social Security, Iraq and Iran as issues on which he said she had not been fully forthcoming. “Now it’s been very deft politically, but one of the things that I firmly believe is that we’ve got to be clear with the American people right now about the important choices that we’re going to need to make in order to get a mandate for change, not to try to obfuscate and avoid being a target in the general election and then find yourself governing without any support for any bold propositions.”

As we wrote in Barack Obama’s Social Insecurity:

The attempt to destroy Social Security was THE big Bush agenda item for his second term. The failure to pass schemes which were Trojan horses meant to destroy Social Security effectively destroyed the Bush government immediately after it had supposedly won re-election. Karl Rove pushed for the privatization schemes and the other ploys such as “personal” accounts (which were politically meant to shift resources from public program Social Security into “personal” accounts, none of which actually did what they were advertised to do – because the real aim was the destruction of the Democratic and successful New Deal and Social Security). Democrats understood the real purpose behind the Bush proposals and opposed them effectively and in unity. TPM on privatization:

This is all another way of saying that the Democrats do have an alternative on the table: preserving Social Security rather than phasing it out. (Once again, let me say that in a later post I’ll discuss why our values are only honored by a system like Social Security.) Democrats already have and will continue to propose adjustments to the system to handle potential shortfalls which are decades in the future. But this debate — for anyone who understands it, indeed even the White House now concedes the point — is not about solvency. And the fact that Kristoff does not grasp that point is not their problem, though his confusing the two issues certainly complicates preserving the program.

In other words, Ripublicans wanted to create a crisis in order to force through changes that would destroy Social Security. Ripublicans wanted to “put everything on the table”. To create a crisis Ripublicans told young voters that the young would not have Social Security when they came of retirement age. Democrats refused to play into the Ripublican crisis creation narrative. Well, most Democrats refused.

Enter Obama with a satchel full of Ripublican propaganda and scare tactics aimed at young voters.

Barack Obama wants everything “on the table” when it comes to negotiating away Social Security. Barack Obama is not to be trusted when it comes to privatization either not, as long as Jeffrey Liebman is a trusted Obama advisor on Social Security and “personal” accounts.

Perhaps Obama thinks scare tactics on Social Security, which have not worked for him before, will work during Halloween season.

[At the end of this post we speculate on on the pundit question as to why Obama is making this crazy gambit on Social Security.]

Desperate Obama and his Chicago thugs have now also abandoned “the politics of hope”. As usual Obama pretends this is all part of some grand strategy. But, it is transparent to all, that ike a drowning man, Obama is flailing about trying to grab on to something, anything. Not content with merely spewing Ripublican propaganda on Social Security, Obama joins Ripublicans on other issues regarding next year’s general election.

Mr. Obama suggested that she was too divisive to win a general election and that if she won, she would be unable to bring together competing factions in Washington to accomplish anything.

“There is a legacy that is both an enormous advantage to her in a Democratic primary, but also a disadvantage to her in a general election,” he said. “I don’t think anybody would claim that Senator Clinton is going to inspire a horde of new voters,” he said. “I don’t think it’s realistic that she is going to get a whole bunch of Republicans to think differently about her.”

Obama supporters who want to join the reality based community should read Obama’s Present to Ripublicans to see what new voters Hillary will bring to the polls and how Obama is again repeating Ripublican propaganda.

Mr. Obama said he was not concerned by a repeated spate of national polls showing lopsided support for Mrs. Clinton. “The national press for the last three months has written glowingly about her and not so much about me, so it’s not surprising,” he said. He described himself as an “underdog” running against a campaign that has “a 20-year head start when it comes to managing the spin of the national politics.”

Here are the facts on Obama receiving the most glowing press coverage:

The new Shorenstein Center report on the “Invisible Primary” has some interesting findings, including the (intuitively true) chart above of Obama’s media coverage.

The report finds that Obama has had the most positive coverage, though it notes — but doesn’t break out from the total — the overwhelmingly negative Clinton talk-radio coverage, which makes Clinton’s coverage worse than it’s been perceived by Democratic primary voters, I’d guess.

The big mystery for Sunday’s talk show pundits, Hillary supporters, and objective analysts is why Obama raised Social Security as his latest anti-Hillary weapon. Big Pink readers know by now that Obama is not very bright, well educated yes, but not very bright – he is merely a flowery talker who charms the gullible.

Here is our guess as to why Obama is gambling on Social Security to salvage the trash that is his sunken campaign: (1) Obama desperately needs a debate victory over Hillary to buoy his donor/supporters; (2) Obama knows that Iraq and his 2002 speech as a lance against Hillary are wet noodles; (3) Iran as an issue against Hillary has blown up in his face because it only serves to remind the voters of Obama and his AWOL record; (4) Obama knows Tim Russert will be co-moderator at tomorrow’s debate; (5) Tim Russert thinks Tim Russert is an expert on Social Security and Tim Russert wants Democrats to adopt the Ripublican “Crisis” narrative to destroy Social Security; (6) Obama wants to suck up to Tim Russert/Ripublican’s on Social Security and thereby finally beat Hillary in a debate. – Mystery solved.

Hillary knows what attacks will come from Obama tomorrow. Obama will repeat Ripublican attacks.

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56 thoughts on “Is Barack Obama A Closeted Ripublican

  1. We have not forgotten the South Carolina gay bashing tour. We predicted that if Obama went ahead with McClurkin and the gay bashing tour this story would go nuclear – it has.

  2. admin,

    Read another frontpage diary put out by kos. He’s hammering on Obama on both accounts, this is just breathtaking….

  3. Admin, you posed the question why BO and Social Security
    and why now. Look at the UI Hawkeye poll. BO is counting on young supporters who are historically non-shows for the
    causcuses. He is going to use it as a drawing card (sic) for those
    who don’t understand the importance of SS. At the same
    time, he is going muddle Hillary’s correct position of getting
    the country’s fiscal house in order before doing anything
    with SS.

  4. Josh Marshall who has been shilling for Obama finally calls out Obama on Social Security. It’s about time.

    Marshall is still in love with Obama and foolishly wants AWOL Obama to go back to Iran as the way to attack Hillary.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/057285.php

    If Obama is hoping for an issue to gain traction with vis a vis Hillary, he’s really muffed it picking Social Security. In itself the idea of removing or significantly restructuring the ‘cap’ on payroll taxes is a good one, at least one with a lot to recommend it. The current approach (though one with a long history and embraced by many strong Social Security advocates) makes the funding structure of Social Security highly regressive. But what Obama is doing is buying into the false idea that Social Security is in some sort of crisis.

    If you’re an outsider to this debate — a Republican, someone who doesn’t care much about the program or a privatizer — that argument may not make sense to you on the merits. But it is what most Democrats who care most about this issue do think. So it puts him on the wrong side of the people whose support he’s trying to garner. As I said, this is setting aside the substance of the issue, which I’ve written about in the past at some length. The politics of it is completely upside down.

  5. Kegs, once again this is Obama putting his interests above progressive and Democratic interests. On Social Security Obama wants to scare his young voters but Hillary is hitting back (check out the ad).

    Kostner, we’ll check it out. Lots of late breaking news today as the counterattack on Obama begins.

  6. Politico on Obama at the MTV forum:

    One slightly odd note: Asked about the Donnie McClurkin mess, he referred to it as something that had happened “a while back.”

    As in, yesterday?

  7. A while back? Wow. What a lying sack of crap. Admin, I have found out from the people in the office that there is only a 3day waiting period to caucus for out-of-staters here in Iowa. This needs to be addressed. I think we need to start questioning HIS electability. He has never run in a hard, messy race for office, he is inexperienced on so many levels, he has no proven ability to unite despite all of his claims to the contrary, he is terrible at debating, he doesn’t think before he says things (foreign policy???), and he is ignoring the seniors of this country (AARP debates and forums he skipped). He would get eaten alive by the Ripublican attacks.

  8. KOS is now saying Obama’s chances are looking slim, and that Hillary is looking like she’s going to take this primary and GE. He denounces Obama for his lates moves on SS, and McClurking….which are dumb dumb dumb. Interesting twist eh?

  9. Indeed, celiff. It also seems that Bill O’Reilly-who appeared on Good Morning America-thinks that Hillary will win, despite all the attacks by the far-left.

  10. In a way, the bar has been set so low now on daily kos that he could do only mildly well tomorrow night and he would probably be praised.

  11. I don’t remember this being a problem, but with a top tier candidate with plenty of resources right next door in Illinois, I am a little worried. This could be helpful if we utilized it right. Obama will. We need to also. We have heavy support in Minnesota and Missouri too. We need to look at this. He needs to be shown for what he is and where he stands on issues. His stance on social security, his foreign policy stances, his stance on civil rights, his stance on college affordability. I have heard nothing from him on civil rights or college costs. What has he done to contribute to the civil right movement? His biggest supporters are college kids, who would benefit least from his approach to social security. His foreign policy stances, as we all know, are dangerously stupid and naive. We should all be doing everything we can by creating a Hillary victory in Iowa, because if she wins here, even by a little bit, she would walk to the nomination. If she loses to Edwards, it is not a big deal because he is soooo far behind everywhere else. Obama must come in third in Iowa. Help us!

  12. Celiff, he was a civil rights attorney and a constitutional law professor. The McClurkin stuff is a political error of enormous magnitude, but policy-wise Obama is pro-civil rights.

  13. Care of Atrios:

    THE AUDACITY OF HOMOPHOBIA

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    Crikey, if I wanted to vote for a divisive, bigoted, insensitive candidate, I could support a Republican.

  14. mj..

    Obama has never tried a case or spoken in front of a jury in his life. All he’s ever done is research and writing briefs for other attorneys. Obama *IS NOT* a Law Professor. That is a great misnomer that has been passed around until it’s taken on a life of it’s own. Obama has never been more than a ‘Guest Lecturer’. The two titles are not synonymous! 🙂

    ennyway..

    I have had the opportunity to watch a few clips of Obama on the Campaign Trail today..He is carrying flash cards in his jacket pocket and glancing at them every few seconds making sure he is nervously repeating his canned message word for word..

    Obama is visibly shaken from his self-inflicted glorious tumult over the weekend. I don’t know if on Tuesday evening, Obama will be strong enough to endure an intense political debate when he is clearly in “brain freeze” mode.. His facial expression is very fragile, frightened and weak. I would not be surprised if Obama, paralyzed in woefull dread, passed out on stage during the debate. He looks that bad.

    The pressure and strain from the McCluckie weekend is resonating visibly with Obama. He is having great difficulty concentrating and staying on message without the use of flash cards…

    Tomorrow should be a very interesting evening..

    I know this…Hillary is a clutch player. If she is ever going to catch Obama at his weakest moment, tomorrow night, will be Hillary’s night to Trick or Treat Obama!

    Mrs. S.

  15. BTW, headline on HillaryHub.com is “Rivals to go after Hillary at Philly debate.”

    Yep, her people know what’s coming.

  16. This is disgusting. I’m watching CNN, and wolf is making this big story of some guy who said Gerald Ford said Bill Clinton was a sex addict. Is there anywhere Wolf won’t go?

  17. mj,

    Yeah! Up next Obama’s gay bashing! Hope somebody is going to record it! Finally it’s been pushed into MSM.

  18. OMG, this gay basher is just a horrible turn in the primary. The last thing we need to do is to divide two reliable Democratic constituencies.

  19. I’m stunned by two headlines of Atrios blogs…

    1. Anti-Gay Bigots for Social Security Reform

    2. The Audacity of Homophobia

  20. OMG!!!

    The day after OBAMA’s gay bashing tour, he decides to go on ELLEN!!! I am sure this has NOTHING TO DO with the fact that ELLEN is part of the LGBT community. How patronizing and transparent one get!!!!!

    I am disappointed in ELLEN for putting him on the show.

    You dont have to know about arugula to be smart enough to know when you are being patronized. OBAMA is really tanking.

  21. Sandy1938, if the Ellen show would have been live, Obama would have cancelled. Ellen would not have let the McClurkin issue go unaddressed and it would not have been pretty for Obama.

    Tonight the Obama campaign instead of having time to prepare for tomorrow’s debate is having to deal with the disaster of McClurkin. Lot’s of rumors flying about strife and upset among supporters and donors.

    Rossanna Danna would have handled this McClurkin business with better judgment. Yes, judgment. Another Obama talking point shot down in flames.

  22. mj, I’m pretty sure Bill Clinton is a sex addict (hopefully a reformed one after the counseling the Clintons underwent), but that’s really old news.

    Glad to hear McClurkin’s making the MSM though.

  23. Yeah, Paula, I basically agree. But why is CNN pumping this out like it’s breaking news that Ford thought so? Seems designed to embarass Hillary.

  24. BTW, Bill has started to campaign for Hillary by himself, which shows his public role is broadening as the countdown to the primaries heats up. He was in SC today, in Spartanburg and Rock Hill.

  25. mj, I have no doubt that’s the reason. But I’m so used to the MSM acting that way I’m not at all surprised. Gerald Ford also happened to like the Clintons, and vice versa. He and Jimmy Carter came out against impeachment, if you recall.

  26. Wow, is anyone else watching Hannity and Combs on Fox? I was clicking through the channels and it caught my eye. They have Dick Morris on there and he was going on about Hillary’s weaknesses and that Obama was gaining. Combs challenged him directly saying that he’s always negative about Hillary and his election predictions have often been wrong! Morris was stunned–he went back at Combs saying that he has run many campaigns which Combs also challenged. Morris then said he was offended. It was great! This is one of the few times I’ve seen that Combs guy actually get a backbone and challenge the assertions of someone on the show.

    By the way Morris says he know Hillary better than anyone else and says shouldn’t be president (she’s too temperamental and has no experience. blah, blah–sounds like Republican talking points.) What is the deal with that guy? He seems to have a vendetta against the Clintons…

  27. Forgot to add.. both NBC Nightly news and CNN 360 talked about Obama telegraphing his new attack Hillary strategy via the newspaper. The group on CNN particularly thought it was crazy to do this in public–Paul Belguia (the guy who worked for the Clintons) said it just makes Obama look like a calculating politician.

  28. Last time Pumpkinhead Russert moderated one of these, he zinged a gotcha at Hillary, so he thought. But she zinged him back but good. I suspect Russert will want to redeem himself, try again, I will be watching with keen interest.

  29. AmericanGal, Morris does have a vendetta against the Clintons, which mean anything he says on Fox must be taken with a grain of salt. He also predicted she wouldn’t win election to the Senate in 2000, and that she would run for prez in 2004 though she promised not to. Of course, she kept her promise.

  30. The reason Obama did this in public is obvious: to reassure his jittery supporters. They’re the target audience.

  31. Paula,

    “I’m pretty sure Bill Clinton is a sex addict”

    Gerald Ford was gullible enough to fall for well-financed RightWing propaganda.

    By now, given the litany of ginned-up fake scandals against both Clintons, you should know better not to.

  32. The indictments of Obama by leading netkooks. It’s just hilarious.

    Dailykos:

    Gays, social security, and the loss of a real choice this primary by kos
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/29/115433/18

    He’s a gospel singer, not a spokesman
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/29/115437/41

    America Blog:
    Obama issues 3-page memo defending gay-basher spokesman, explaining that McClurkin has no problem with “happy” gays
    http://www.americablog.com/2007/10/obama-issues-3-page-memo-explaining.html

    Obama campaign spokesman blasts gays at Gospel concert; white preacher and Obama say nothing
    http://www.americablog.com/2007/10/obama-supporter-blasts-gays-at-gospel.html

    Atrios:
    http://atrios.blogspot.com/
    Anti-Gay Bigots for Social Security Reform by Atrios
    The Audacity of Homophobia

    Openleft:
    Obama Campaign Post-Mortem by Chris Bowers
    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2120
    We Reacted Like a Movement Should to Obama
    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2119

    This is brutal. My sense is netkooks are frustrated they are unable to influence the primary. Now Obama has given them an opportunity to prove they can at least destroy his candidacy. Hope those kooks can stick to this new ‘plan’ tenaciously….

    As Matt said…
    This is a remarkable turn of events. Obama isn’t getting taken down by another candidate, he’s being destroyed by progressives who are angry that he is selling out their values. It’s unlikely that we can stop Clinton from getting the nomination, but the fact that the base has reached out from the internet to lead the candidates around, and then attempted to destroy one of them for selling us out, is such a shift since 2004. Know that we are just different from the right. We are not authoritarian, we are democratic and discursive, and we fight for our values.

    It’s a terrible day for the Obama campaign, but it’s been a great week for progressives. This was a test, and we passed.

  33. Joe Friday, I’m not. To me, that explains his philandering best. And considering the alcoholic household he was raised in, it makes sense. In other words, his problem has nothing to do with Hillary. It predated her, I’m sure.

    I use that phrase not as an attack in the least, believe me. And I know all the BS “scandals” from the ’90s quite well, lol. I lived through all that garbage.

  34. Great polling data for Hillary on Iran crisis from Zogby…

    A majority of likely voters – 52% – would support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon.

    When asked which presidential candidate would be best equipped to deal with Iran – regardless of whether or not they expected the U.S. to attack Iran – 21% would most like to see New York U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton leading the country, while 15% would prefer former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani and 14% would want Arizona U.S. Sen. John McCain in charge. Another 10% said Illinois Sen. Barack Obama would be best equipped to deal with Iran, while Republican Fred Thompson (5%), Democrat John Edwards (4%) and Republican Mitt Romney (3%) were less likely to be viewed as the best leaders to help the U.S. deal with Iran. The telephone poll of 1,028 likely voters nationwide was conducted Oct. 24-27, 2007 and carries a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points.

    Clinton leads strongly among Democrats on the issue, with 35% saying she is best equipped to deal with Iran, while 17% would prefer Obama and 7% view John Edwards as the best choice. Giuliani is the top choice of Republicans (28%), followed by McCain (21%) and Fred Thompson (9%). One in five independents chose Clinton (21%) over McCain (16%) and Giuliani (11%).

  35. The best thing about attributing a “dead” man to specific statements; theres no way to cross examine him for truth and accuracy. Brilliant!

    It would be just like Gerald Ford to have left a dossier on the despot, Dick Cheney. Left it somewhere out of the way, stuffed in an old trunk in an attic at the family homestead.

    Just waiting for an inquisitive grand-child staving off the boredom of a rainy day, lifting the lid on a historcal moment.

    After waddling down the third flight of stairs brushing the cobwebs from his brow, grimy portfolio tucked tightly under his arm, he says: “Daddy, what’s this?” “It says, Grandpa Gerry’s Tax Returns?”

    No son, turn it rightside up. It says: “DC Return ATax”

    Mrs. S,

  36. Paula, I agree with you about Bill. Maybe it is a woman thing, but it makes me less angry at him if I see it as a sickness, which I think it probably was. Poeple said that about JFK as well.

  37. frankly, i could care less what bill clinton’s sexual proclivities may be. if he’s a sex fiend, good for hillary… she ought to make the most of it! but its really not anything i care about. the fact that gerald ford and his wife thought he spent a bit too much time admiring the ladies, means to me that he was a flirt, they would not know what he actually got away with. they lived in a different time, and not much was acceptable in their time.

    about this debate; i love hillary, but i wish she would just dump the catch phrases, such as ‘cowboy diplomacy’ and other repetative cliche’s, and just say it in human speak.

    i wish she would just say, ‘i cant tell you about social security, because its a big subject, and its one of the most important decisions i will have to make as president, so i am going to take my time getting it right. i could lie to you and tell you something you want to hear,but that wouldnt be right. i will always “PUT PEOPLE FIRST”, i promis you that…’

    she needs to do a bill clinton, cause thats what made bill sexy, he always spoke like he was speaking just to you. thats the difference between them, she hasnt done that intimate conversation.

    that is the sort of thing obama tries to do, and i guess does effectively, though we all know, he’s a liar, and a loser. but hillary could do it, any woman should know how to use ‘the voice’… and honestly i think shes getting alot more personal and charming.

  38. We need never address Bill’s wandering eye. That’s private. I think if we looked around this forum, let alone this country, we’d find most of us or our spouses have meandered away from our strictest sense of marital vows. It’s not an issue we should ever address, let alone on this forum watched by others. not Hillary’s fault, we should not continue to make it her baggage.

    Bwak is floundering. Edwards is a has been. Let us turn our attention to
    the issues tomorrow and how our girl will perform in the debates.

    Mrs. Smith, my hubby (also an atty) can say he is a Classics, Latin, Greek, History and English professor by virtue of his speaking each year as a guest lecturer. He is not on staff. But he can claim the same, if not better credentials. it’s easy in the academic world. Believe me. Might I also add besides his BA in Medieval History, J.D. and Masters in Roman Sculpture from Oxford, he also is a helluva a lay. Can Michelle say the same about her hubby???? I imagine not. 😉

  39. Why is “Bill Clinton a sex addict” a surprise now, when Hillary Clinton said this her self many times before and that Watergate reporter’s bio on her goes in detail on this issue.

    What I’am dissappointed is how the media has given a forum to all the Hillary haters..Yep that right, MSNBC is now being lumped with fox news…and treated them like the serious writers they are not.

    Also very dissappointed in some of the democrats behavior toward Hillary and Bill Clinton because they will need them in the general election if they want to beat the ripublicans. The way they sound today is like I’m back in 1999 and Gore was running for president and you know how that turned out.

    Gooooo Hillary, yay!!!!

  40. celiff:

    About this 3-day period — what do you need for ID to caucus in IA? I mean, if I showed up a week early to register with an out-of-state DL, would I be allowed to register? This shouldn’t be an issue as long as proof of residence is required for registration.

  41. Here’s an article that gives another Point of View from the title:

    Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama. The Difference.
    Posted by Josh Feit on October 29 at 17:42 PM

    In his post about Obama’s Donnie McClurkin f-up, Eli asks:

    “Why should these people [liberal voters] now believe that Obama’s tough enough to successfully take on Clinton? More importantly: Why should they believe he’s any different than Clinton?”

    Part of the reason they should now know Obama is different than Clinton is because Obama was disorganized enough to let this whole thing happen. Clinton’s campaign organization is tight, and would have vetted and calibrated this whole thing out before it blew up; and they would have put the kibosh on it before it ever got started. What were Obama’s people even thinking? My guess is: They weren’t.

    As I pointed out when Clinton made up for months of limp campaigning in Washington State with one simple, strategic swoop (speaking at the Maggie Awards), the thing that makes Clinton so formidable is her campaign organization—emphasis on organization.

    I think part of the answer to the question probably isn’t what Obama supporters want to hear, but it’s this: Obama’s different than Clinton in a bad way. He’s not as competent a campaigner.

    This McClurkin mess shouldn’t have gotten this far.

    http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/hillary_clinton_barack_obama_the_differe

  42. good morning guys, i saw that clip on hannity and combs when combs NAILED morris on his false perdictions on hillary. he has been wrong time and time again. he rails against her on fox and on his website. he also does hit pieces on the right-wing newsmax.

  43. we all know hillary does well in these debates but im like a nervous son, worried my mom hillary be ganged up on by a bunch of punks,thugs, and bullies.

  44. Terrondt, Hillary has been in debate preparation all day yesterday and today. Hopefully she will get some rest and relaxation too.

    We worry for her too. It’s like waiting for a loved one to come home to a crime ridden neighborhood on a night with bad weather.

    BTW, We will have an additional post today (we posted a new one on McClurkin already) about the debate and what we expect. Then we will have our debate coverage later tonight.

  45. united 12, I think Hillary is making major progress as a campaigner, but Bill Clinton is hard to match in that area, for sure, lol. I remember watching him on C-SPAN in 1992 as he worked crowds and being absolutely mesmerized. I still love to hear him speak!

  46. I think Hillary is her own category. She is amazing in front of crowds and how she handled 5 shows in one day. That’s a supernatural feat.

    Well, I’m sober today (lots of fun last night. Gorto would approve 🙂 ) and will be watching the debate late due to a long standing date to watch House with the spouse unit. By then, he’ll be asleep and I’ll be able to rewind to my heart’s content. I’m with you terrondt, I *heart* my DVR.

  47. i agree about being nervous, i woke this morning and felt nauseas, and i thought; OK, TODAY THEY ARE ALL GOING TO TRY AND SCREW HILLARY…
    how sad, i can’t bare to think of tim russert, and the others, ganging up on hillary tonight, and then after all that, chris mathews, will try and knife her on the way out. and why?
    BECAUSE SHES A WOMAN…

    hillary will do what she does best, stand her ground…
    still i hope she comes out shining instead of just surviving, that would be a real kick in the mouth to all the haters.

  48. United12, Hillary rested and prepared yesterday and today. She’ll be ready. But we are all worried for her. It’s hard to watch someone going into the Lion’s den.

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