A Gay Ol’ Time In South Carolina

What will Oprah say?

What will Oprah’s friend, Gale, say?

What will David Geffen say?

What will Albus Dumbledore say?

What will the Big Blogs say?

What will ‘uncomfortable’ John Edwards say?

What will liberal big dollar campaign donors say?

What will Big Media say?

What will they all say about “Barack Obama and the Bigot Gospel Tour”?

Barack Obama with his Embrace the Ripublicans policy must have been envious of all the homophobic talk at this weekend’s Ripublican Hate-Hillary Festival called the Values Voters Summit.

Obama has a lot in common with that crowd. Obama even gets them to record ads for him because Obama voted “Present” instead of “NO” on abortion bills when he was in the Illinois state legislature.

So now Obama has gone all the way in his Ripublican embrace. Obama has gone all the way, not in the biblical sense, but in the political sense, by announcing that a pastor/gospel singer who sang at the 2004 Re-Select Bush – Republican National Convention, will tour with Obama in South Carolina. The popular pastor/gospel singer and Obama tour buddy to be, Donnie McClurkin, has declared war on “the curse of homosexuality”.

McClurkin declared war on “the curse” in 2001. Years earlier the popular singer had performed his songs for both Old Bush and Bill Clinton. In 1992 McClurkin even performed at the Democratic National Convention. But those days of Clintonian tolerance and openess in the 1990s have ended.

In 2001, six years ago, filled with various demons and urges, McClurkin turned his personal anguish into a campaign of hate. Barack Obama has embraced this tragic bigotry by joining with McClurkin in a desperate tour through South Carolina to salvage his sunken campaign in South Carolina.

Recall, that George Bush, having lost the New Hampshire primary to John McCain in 2000 was in danger of also losing the subsequent primary in South Carolina. Bush saved his campaign in 2000 by winning South Carolina. George Bush accomplished this turnaround in his fortunes by running a hate campaign in South Carolina.

Obama knows his campaign is dead but still barely breathing in Iowa. Obama wants to show signs of life in a state other than Iowa to appease jittery donors. Therefore Obama will duplicate George Bush’s dirty but winning strategy in South Carolina.

Here is what Earl Ofari Hutchinson, thinks of Obama’s duplicate Bush in South Carolina strategy:

Enter McClurkin. He’s black, he’s popular, and gospel plays big with blacks in South Carolina, especially black evangelicals, and many of them openly and even more of them quietly loathe gays.

Bush masterfully tapped that homophobic sentiment in 2000 in part with McClurkin and even more masterfully in 2004 again with McClurkin and the top gun mega black preachers in Ohio and Florida. He tapped it so masterfully that Bush’s naked pander to gay bashing with the GOP spawned anti-gay marriage initiative in Ohio did much to win over a big chunk of black evangelical leaning voter to Bush. [snip]

This lesson isn’t lost on Obama. Desperate to snatch back some of the political ground with black voters that are slipping away from him and to Hillary; Bush’s black evangelical card seems like the perfect play. Obama wouldn’t dare go down the knock gay path, and risk drawing the inevitable heat for it, if he didn’t think as Bush that anti-gay sentiment is still wide and deep among many blacks.

Who will denounce Obama’s ugly strategy?

The fictional headmaster of Harry Potter lore, the recently ‘outed’ Albus Dumbledore, will speak out with more vigor than the PINOs and Naderites who will say nothing. Their sainted Nader calls abortion and gay rights “gonadal politics“.

Oprah and her close friend Gale, strongly bonded Obama supporters, have not said a word against this ugly strategy.

David Geffen, the gay billionaire and strong supporter of Obama has not said a word against this ugly strategy.

The Big Blogs and Big Media have mostly been silent against this ugly strategy. [Some gay blogs have started to speak out. A good story appeared on Huffington Post. But when is the other Gabor sister, Arriana herself, going to speak out against this ugly strategy?]

Hillary and John Edwards and all the other Democratic candidates will probably be denounced by Obama and his Chicago circus, as opportunists, if they speak out against this ugly strategy. And undoubtedly John Edwards is ‘uncomfortable’ with the entire issue and topic.

Obama, we recall, was given a free pass on some remarks he made during a Democratic debate in late June which some thought were homophobic. If Obama persists with his Bigot Tour of South Carolina that free pass will have to be revoked.

Obama, we also recall, has made an ostentatious display of his alleged “Core Principle”: “We can’t just tell people what they want to hear, we have to tell them what they need to hear.” Obama even aired an advertisment (called “Quiet”) trumpeting his “Core Principle”. Time to put up or shut up Barack.

Will Obama remain “Quiet”?

Will Barack Obama persist with his South Carolina Bigotry Tour? Will Obama denounce anti-gay bigotry? Will Obama denounce, in front of the churches and constituents he desperately needs, anti-gay bigotry?

Will Obama denounce his touring partner’s homophobic views?

Will Obama start representing the Democratic wing of though on this civil rights battle?

What will Obama say?

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78 thoughts on “A Gay Ol’ Time In South Carolina

  1. Obama show with this stunt that he has lost it, and is willing to try the last desperate measures he can to try to gain traction.

    But I believe he will only end up offending many of his current supporters and they will no longer be able to stand by him.
    He leave many people to make a decision to either stand by their values or stand by this ‘great’ politician. As many straight people now a days either has a family member or a friend or colleague who is gay, the support from republicans he gains will be outdone by the democrats he looses.

    And I think it goes without saying that gay people most certainly are not impressed by his bipartisan uniting way of ‘new’ politics! ugh!

  2. These people are no better than the arch conservative (closeted gay) christian republican hypocrites!
    They seem incapable of seeing the hypocrisy in this.
    Unbelievable.

  3. DCDemocrat, not a peep out of the Big Bloggers themselves huh? That’s a real relevant bunch.

    This will generate news whether Obama and the Big Blogs like it or not. A lot of the gay civil rights posters on the Big Blogs are getting a dose of what those “reality based” communities are really like when it comes to the crunch. If it was a Ripublican or Hillary or someone they don’t like touring with a bigot the Big Blog posters and owners would be demanding action and screaming and all the usual hysterics.

    This is Obama’s “Liberty University” moment. That did not turn out so well for McCain and his straight talk express.

  4. Admin: Not Markos nor any of the front pagers at dkos have mentioned the story in any way.

    My own sense of the pulse of the gay community here in DC is that Hillary is the runaway prohibitive favorite of gay men. There seems to be a little more hesitation among some of the Lesbians I have talked to, but I don’t think Hillary is going to have any notable problems with the gay vote.

  5. Queerty has 2 stories about it. This is one of the major gayblogs (:

    I hope this gets more play. He is soooooooo desperate. Good grief.

  6. Celiff, any links?

    If the gay press and media outlets start talking about this story it will hurt Obama in states he will eventually need.

    The tour starts in 4 days.

  7. Admin., when I thought of the company Obama is keeping today as a supposed Democrat, the complimentary things he has said about Republicans, and his blood ties to Cheney, the word that popped into my mind (or rather what is left of it after two computer crashes in one week, I shall speak to Mr. Guiness about that) was “chameleon”. So heeding the wise words of Casey Stengel, I decided to look it up and here is what I found: 1. An old world lizard with a projectile tongue and the ability to change color to match its surroundings, 2. a changeable or fickel person. Far be it from me to suggest the first definition applies, but the second is surely pertinent. At this decisive moment in history we do not need a chameleon as President. What the country needs is a strong, and competent leader like Hillary.

  8. Volatile maybe, but it’s the trend. She’s been trending up since July. 49 is the highest she’s ever recieved I believe.

  9. kostner, rassmussen is getting on my nerves. i have premium service but i get the polls later in midday. he has been promising a new console set-up and great new stuff but same old same old. i used to get the polls early in the morning but not in several months.

  10. I did my part…I sent the story to The ADVOCATE, the major gay news magazine, and to PLANETOUT a major gay news portal. I also posed the question on Rosie O’Donnells blog.

    This is a story that NEEDS to be heard.

  11. Well done sandy!!

    You make me proud 😀

    The time when barack could get a free pass on all his failures are over!
    It’s accountability time!!

  12. After writing to Rosie, I thought of her former show “The View”…..You can go to “The View’s” webpage and email Joy, Whoopi, Barbara, Elisabeth and Sherry individually. Obama’s ties to this guy would make a GREAT HOT TOPIC imo.

    The show is seen by approximately 3 Million viewers.

  13. Hey y’all, As a member of the GLBT community, one of the things that worries me the absolute most is what this kind of crap can do to young people. Sorry, I switched topics back to McClurkin and “the curse.” Suicide rates among young people -young women and young men have increased some 8%. As a lifelong educator, I can tell you that one of the issues that teens grapple with the most is their sexual orientation and gender identity. Enter some gospel singer with issues of his own and a charismatic politician and I say you have a prescription for disaster among vulnerable teens. One of the best resources I know for education around sexual orientation in young people is the organization called GLSEN (gay, lesbian, straight, educational network). mollyj

  14. kostner..

    At this very minute, I do not understand what strategy Edwards had in place as his avenue for incoming donations. Are his primary sources Hedge Funds and private donations? To my mind, he is shunning conventional thinking in working the system as has always been the practice.. and is also failing to gain any noticeable traction resulting from his constant attacks on Sen Clinton’s source of donations.

    insight?

    Thanks,

    Mrs. S.

  15. Celiff:

    Qweerty is having a FIELD DAY with this story….I love the part where they say “McClurkin’s conversion to heterosexuality will be complete when he stops plucking his eyebrows” LMAO

    Molly is 100 percent correct. The American Medical Association/American Psychological Association have proven that “attempts to change one’s sexual orientation is actually damaging”.

    DEAR OBAMA…..If I wanted to hang with RADICAL RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS and GAY BASHERS….I would have become a REPUBLICAN.

  16. Folks. It’s 1:53 PM EDT. Go over to dkos NOW and vote in the straw poll for Hillary. Markos is closing these things down very fast these days, so scoot over there NOW.

  17. AND WHAT MAKES THIS EVEN MORE APPALLING….

    Was that OBAMA blathered on about how he would be supportive of gay rights at the HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN FORUM in August, and pandered to the LBGT community, and was given the benefit of the doubt.

    And now that the FORUM is over, he doesnt have to directly answer to his association with McClurkin.

  18. dcdemocrat, i just voted on dailykooks and what a farce. chris dodd has 22% of the straw vote compared to his national 1 to 2% in the SCIENTIFIC legit polls. and our hillary 9% straw poll to 48% nationally. just goes to show how far away from reality these nutcases are. thank goodness they don’t represent a sliver of the dem vote.

  19. Some of the top Kooks are writing that the Obama campaign needs to be given time and that something will be worked out. This as they again try to make believe that Obama does not know about this ‘problem’.

    They are blaming it all on (surprise) the staff!

    More Blame The Staff excuses from Mr. AWOL and supporters.

    As much as they deny it, the Obama supporters must be aware of the damage this is increasingly doing to Obama with the gay community and true progressives – Not PINOs. The bad publicity will only get worse as the tour date approaches.

    One sharp non-Kook has observed that Ann Coulter gets attacked on the Kook site when Coulter says Jews need to be perfected but that now that it is an Obama supporter who says Gays need to be perfected, Obama is defended.

    Cult.

    Bigots.

  20. Hi everybody,

    Has anybody noticed Obama’s new TV ad? His team is chasing the ghost. Whenever Hillary has a new ad, they follow suit.

    The new ad is pretty bad, very very boring, and full of his normal ‘politics of hope’, ‘defy Washington conventional wisdom’ stuff.

    Can this guy get a bit more original???

  21. admin, these are the same idiots who said back in the winter, spring, and summertime “wait until the fall that’s when obama will really take off”. now”wait until jan, the next faze in now”. before you know it obama and edwards will be blown out by feb 5th and they will still be in denial. i’ll make this perdiction, if edwards loses iowa then get trounced on feb 5th, he will bow out. obama, he will get blown out but he will not concede. his ego and his crazy supporters will make him go on for another few more months.

  22. So much so for Obama’s people powered money… The truth is all candidates have raised a majority of their money from wealthy donors. It’s just bizarre that Edwards/Obama would single Clinton out on this stupid ‘issue’. Who cares??

    Obama now has 300-plus bundlers
    by John McCormick

    A list quietly posted late Saturday or early Sunday shows Sen. Barack Obama’s network of big-money fundraisers continues to expand and more than 300 people have now each raised at least $50,000 on his behalf.

    His number of so-called bundlers — those who ask friends, family and business associates to contribute — grew to 305, according to a list on his campaign’s Web site that included 54 new names since the last update.

    Shortly after the end of each quarter, the campaign for the Illinois Democrat and presidential hopeful voluntarily discloses the names of those who have collected at least $50,000 for him.

    Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, the only candidate on either side of the political aisle who has matched Obama’s fundraising prowess, discloses her bundlers in a higher denomination.

    At last check, her campaign said it has 223 HillRaisers who have each raised at least $100,000. A Clinton spokesman was checking Sunday afternoon to see if that number has grown.

    Over the weekend, the Tribune offered an exclusive glimpse inside “Obama University,” where veteran bundlers periodically train rookie fundraisers.

    Obama’s new bundler list means that at least $15 million of the $79 million he raised during the first three quarters of the year came by way of bundlers.

    In July, the Tribune reported that at least 22 percent—and likely much more— of the money Obama had raised during the first half of the year came by way of those who had raised at least $50,000.

  23. LOL!!!

    Hey people, one of Hillarys spokesman is at it again, I love this guy, so good! In a response to all the attacks from the republicans in their last debate, comes this reply:

    Hillary spokesman Phil Singer reacts: “We can understand why they’re all so angry: as Chris Wallace made clear, Hillary is beating each of them”…

  24. Yay!! Real Clear Politics has Hillary up again, they have usually been showing Hillarys lead as smaller than other polls, but as the rest of them, the RCP has her growing:
    RCP Average
    Clinton 48.5%
    Obama 21.2%
    Edwards 12.2%
    Richardson 3.3%

    Clinton +27.3%

  25. gorto, that realclear politics poll averages is among the best. the pollster.com averages for some reason lags up to 2 weeks from getting updated. rcp updates almost every day.

  26. Richardson said he would support some limits on lobbyists’ contributions but said he disagrees with rival John Edwards, who has proposed banning lobbyists from donating to federal campaigns. Edwards also has urged the other candidates to join him in rejecting such money.

    “Senator Edwards challenged us all to give back money from lobbyists,” said Richardson, a former congressman and U.S. energy secretary. “I thought to myself, OK, I get contributions from the Sierra Club and League of Conservation Voters. I get money from senior citizen groups … I get money from nurses and teachers. That’s a lobbyist? In my book, those are good people. So you’ve got to be careful about the definitions.”

  27. BTW, there’s a Hillary interview in November’s Essence magazine. Excerpts are linked on HillaryHub.com. It sounds like a good read.

  28. thanks for the heads up Paula, I watched the video on there.
    And it looked like Hillary was having fun!
    She’s getting her stump speech down!! Not just speaking it but ‘throwing it’ out there and it ‘bounces’ off the crowd…..I know, maybe a weird rhetoric, but you catch my drift (I hope) 😉

    Maybe what I meant to say is, she seems to be loosening up, which is nice, means she is getting more and more comfortable.

  29. Admin,

    TPM is reporting Obama is yet to distance from anti-gay singer.

    The Obama campaign is coming under fire for staging a campaign gospel tour that includes gospel singer Donnie McClurkin, an antigay crusader who has railed against “the curse of homosexuality.”

    Though McClurkin’s involvement with the Obama campaign has been sharply criticized in recent days, the campaign has yet to disavow his remarks or distance itself from him, and didn’t give us a comment in response to our queries today.

    The campaign recently announced that its gospel tour would make three stops in South Carolina, where Obama is in a tough race with Hillary Clinton. The tour includes singers like Mary Mary, Hezekiah Walker, Byron Cage and McClurkin.

    But as John Aravosis of AmericaBlog first pointed out, McClurkin is a controversial figure in the gay community. He’s criticized the “curse of homosexuality” and has detailed his own struggle with homosexual tendencies by saying that he had been “delivered” from them and that “God can deliver others, too.”

    McClurkin’s appearance on behalf of the Obama campaign is now drawing fire from at least one gay rights group, and it was criticized sharply by writer Earl Ofari Hutchinson, who observed that “healing and consensus building does not mean sucking up to someone that publicly boasts that he’s in ‘a war’ against gays, and that the aim of his war is to ‘cure’ them.” It’s also become something of an issue in the liberal blogosphere and more specifically on the gay blogs, too. The critics point out that Obama demanded the firing of a Justice Department official for racially-charged comments, and want him to condemn McClurkin, too.

    We contacted the Obama campaign for comment on this early this afternoon, asking whether it would disavow his remarks. As of this evening, the Obama campaign had yet to comment. We’ll bring you their statement if they do say something.

    Obama backers point out that Rev. Dr. Harold Mayberry, whose support Hillary has sought, has preached against homosexuality to his San Francisco congregation.

  30. Kostner, the longer Obama tries to wait this out the worse for him. Even his supporters on the Kook site are aware this is not a good or decent thing for Obama to do. Even if he toughs it out Obama will eventually have to explain this. When he runs for re-election he is going to have to explain this.

  31. “Obama backers point out that Rev. Dr. Harold Mayberry, whose support Hillary has sought, has preached against homosexuality to his San Francisco congregation.”

    I don’t recall Dr. Mayberry going on a three-day campaign swing with Hillary. Not a good comparison, folks.

  32. AP story on GOPers piling on Hillary at Fla. debate:

    And the loser is … Hillary Clinton.

    That’s how Republicans cast their debate Sunday night, when they weren’t feuding with one another in their most direct and contentious exchanges yet.

    Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani used humor to hit Clinton, exclaiming, “You gotta be kidding!” when asked if he differs with her on abortion and gay rights.

    “There are two things I agree with Hillary Clinton on. First of all, we’re both Yankee fans,” he said to laughter.

    “Well, wait a second — I became a Yankee fan growing up in New York. She became a Yankee fan growing up in Chicago,” he said of the former first lady, who moved to New York to run for the Senate in 2000.

    Then Giuliani quoted her as saying, “I have a million ideas; America cannot afford them all.”

    “I’m not making it up,” he said to more laughter. “No kidding, Hillary — America can’t afford you.”

    Relaxed, smiling and conversational, Giuliani reinforced his image as a front-runner much as he does on the campaign trail, by disparaging the former first lady as much as he criticizes other Republicans.

    “He’s got that riff down well, and it was really funny and very effective,” Republican pollster Whit Ayres said. “Don’t underestimate the value of experience in these forums — he’s obviously a bright man and has gotten very comfortable.”

    The New York senator makes an easy target among Republicans, despite, or perhaps because of, her lead in polls against GOP contenders. The audience of more than 3,300 party faithful cheered at every Clinton line in the debate, which was sponsored by Fox News Channel and the Florida Republican Party.

    “Scoring points on Hillary in this group — hell, that’s like a 5-foot basket. You’re just dropping the ball in,” said David Johnson, a Tallahassee political strategist and former head of the Florida GOP.

    Mitt Romney, dominant in polling in the early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, challenged Clinton’s experience.

    “She hasn’t run a corner store. She hasn’t run a state. She hasn’t run a city. She has never run anything,” the former Massachusetts governor said.

    The biggest applause line of the night, delivered by Arizona Sen. John McCain, also came at Clinton’s expense. McCain, a foe of congressional spending, mentioned Clinton’s effort to spend $1 million on a Woodstock Museum to commemorate perhaps the most famous counterculture event of the 1960s.

    “Now, my friends, I wasn’t there. I’m sure it was a cultural and pharmaceutical event,” McCain said.

    “I was tied up at the time,” he deadpanned, and the audience rose, applauding the reference to McCain’s years as a Vietnam prisoner of war.

    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a Southern Baptist known for his folksy one-liners, said: “Look, I like to be funny. There’s nothing funny about Hillary Clinton being president.”

    When they weren’t focused on Clinton, the candidates were emphasizing their conservative credentials, putting Giuliani and Romney on the spot.

    Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson said: “Mayor Giuliani believes in federal funding for abortion. He believes in sanctuary cities. He’s for gun control. He supported Mario Cuomo, a liberal Democrat, against a Republican who was running for governor, then opposed the governor’s tax cuts when he was there.”

    Thompson also mentioned Romney’s 1994 campaign against Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy, when Romney cast himself as a defender of a woman’s right to abortion, an issue on which Romney says he has changed his mind.

    “Actually, Mitt, I didn’t know there was any room to the left of Ted Kennedy,” Thompson quipped.

    Thompson appeared confident and easygoing, and quick to defend himself when Giuliani questioned his own conservative credentials. Giuliani called Thompson the “single biggest obstacle” in the Senate to curbing frivolous lawsuits.

    Thompson responded by saying it’s a matter of federalism, the concept of power divided between national and state government. “Local issues belong at the state level. Most states have passed tort reform,” he said.

    Thompson even managed a graceful response to a question about whether, as some critics have suggested, he is lazy. He described his trajectory from teenage father to factory worker to federal prosecutor and Watergate counsel and finally to the Senate, and he mentioned his help since then shepherding Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts’ nomination through Congress.

    “If a man can do all that and be lazy, I recommend it to everybody,” he said to laughter and applause, adding that he is a father of five children, two of them under age 4.

  33. When did Hillary say this?

    Then Giuliani quoted her as saying, “I have a million ideas; America cannot afford them all.”

    “I’m not making it up,” he said to more laughter. “No kidding, Hillary — America can’t afford you.”

    Just curious. I don’t remember that. Anyway, it’ll be fun when she starts firing back, lol. But first things first – the nomination.

  34. 1. Thanks for the YouTube link to the Fresno rally. Hillary looked like she was “fired up; ready to go!”.

    2. Obama’s gay trouble has hit the AP news wire:

    http://apnews.myway.com//article/20071022/D8SEIC6O1.html

    3. Paula, Guiliani is twisting Hillary’s words on their head. She said that when she was asked about the $5000 baby bond idea. She said that she wasn’t going going to propose it, even though it was a good idea, because the cost didn’t fit in her budget for fiscal responsibility, given other priorties. She went on to explain that she has a million ideas, but the country can’t afford all of them so, as President, she would make hard decisions about priorities.

  35. Obama wades in deeper. He has put out a statement expressing his disagreement with the view of the homophobic preacher, but saying that he will appear as scheduled to perform at Obama’s rallies in South Carolina.

    From the Chicago Tribune blogs:

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/obama_the_gospel_singer_and_ga.html

    ————————–

    One gay activist involved with the Obama campaign said the situation puts the candidate in a bind, since he risks offending evangelicals in South Carolina if he cancels McClurkin’s appearance but could alienate gay supporters if the performance proceeds as planned.

    “This story is quickly turning into a disaster for Barack,” said the supporter who is active on gay and lesbian issues. “He’s screwed if he goes through with the trip with Donnie McClurkin….But he’s also screwed in South Carolina if he dumps McClurkin. I hope that the staffer who set this up has already been fired.”

    Update: About 6:40 pm today, the Obama campaign issued a written statement from the candidate saying that he “strongly disagree(s)” with McClurkin’s views. Still, a spokesman said McClurkin would remain part of the concert line-up.

    “I have clearly stated my belief that gays and lesbians are our brothers and sisters and should be provided the respect, dignity, and rights of all other citizens. I have consistently spoken directly to African-American religious leaders about the need to overcome the homophobia that persists in some parts our community so that we can confront issues like HIV/AIDS and broaden the reach of equal rights in this country,” Obama said in the written statement.

    ————

    If somebody wants to do a blog on these developments over at MyDD, that would be great. I did my part hammering Obama on this issue yesterday, so I don’t want to post a second diary on it. The Obama/Edwards folk hate me enough as it is for stiring the pot on this one.

  36. admin,

    MSM is starting to pick up this story. AP just filed a report: Group to Obama: Drop Singer From Tour.

    WASHINGTON (AP) – A gay rights group on Monday urged Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to cut ties with a gospel singer who they say spreads false information about gays and lesbians.
    Donnie McClurkin is among several gospel singers scheduled to raise money for the Illinois senator at a concert in South Carolina this weekend.

    McClurkin has drawn attention from gay rights activists for his views on homosexuality.

    “I don’t believe that it is the intention of God,” McClurkin said Monday in a telephone interview.

    McClurkin said he does not believe in discriminating against homosexuals. “What people do in their bedrooms and who they are as human beings are two different things,” he said.

    Obama’s campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    “We strongly urge Obama to part ways with this divisive preacher who is clearly singing a different tune than the stated message of the campaign,” Wayne Besen, executive director of Truth Wins Out, said in a statement.

    At a forum on gay issues in August, Obama argued that civil unions for same-sex couples wouldn’t be a “lesser thing” than marriage. Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ, which supports gay marriage, but Obama has yet to go that far.

    In a telephone interview Monday, Besen said he admired Obama, but wasn’t ready to endorse him, especially considering McClurkin taking part in the campaign’s “Embrace the Change” concert tour.

    “I think he’d be a great president. But I think it’s going to drive away support from people who are on the fence such as myself,” Besen said.

    McClurkin, a Grammy Award winner, performed at the Republican National Convention in 2004.

  37. celiff…

    Thanks for posting the video. Yup, Hillary has her talking points down very well.
    Which means, she has a plan in place ready to implement as soon as she is in the White House.

    Does anyone think there will be a huge GLTB Protest protesting Obama’s in your face GAY Discrimination featuring a Gay Hater appearing in his Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show? (apologies to Neil Diamond)

    Mrs. S.

  38. Taylor Marsh is on a roll!! Look at the headlines of her frontpage.

    Edwards Lands Himself in a ‘Tough Place’
    Obama’s Iran Problem
    Dumbest Clinton Column Ever Published

  39. I am speaking at the GLBTAU meeting on campus wednesday for Hillary and rest assured that the McClurkin story, the Edwards “uncomfortable” comments and Richardson’s claim of gay as a choice will all come up in my speech (:

  40. celiff,

    This story is gaining steam fast. AP has a story, lots of liberal blogs, myDD, Taylor Marsh, openleft, and GLBT community is starting to call him out.

    Obama issued a statement but still declined to take his name off the list. This is going to be very interesting. Keep on digging, Obama.

  41. Over 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific research has shown that homosexuality, in and of itself, is not associated with any mental disorders, deviant behavior, or other emotional or social problems, and for more than 25 years, both the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association have urged all mental health professionals to help dispel (not reinforce) these fallacies.

    Regarding reparative therapies themselves, in 1997, out of concern that such “gay-to-straight” conversions” held much potential harm to patients, the American Psychological Association passed a resolution affirming opposition to such schemes as fraudulent.

    THE FACTS:

    1. Regarding Reparative Therapy:
    “The most important fact about “reparative therapy,” also sometimes known as “conversion” therapy, is that it is based on an understanding of homosexuality that has been rejected by all the major health and mental health professions.” http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/justthefacts.html#2

    2. Regarding Transformational Ministries:
    “Transformational ministry” is a term used to describe the use of religion to eliminate homosexual desires. The most important fact about “transformational ministry” is that its view of homosexuality is not representative of the views of all people of faith. Many deeply religious people and a number of religious congregations and denominations are supportive and accepting of lesbian, gay, and bisexual people and their right to be protected from the discriminatory acts of others. For example, the following organizations have endorsed passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would prohibit employment discrimination based on sexual orientation:
    American Ethical Union, American Friends Service Committee, American Jewish Committee, American Jewish Congress, Church of the Brethren, Church Women United, Dignity/USA, Episcopal Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Hadassah, WZOA, The Interfaith Alliance, Jewish Women International, National Council of Churches of Christ, USA, National Council of Jewish Women, North Georgia United Methodists, Presbyterian Church (USA), Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, Unitarian Universalist Association, United Church of Christ, United Methodist Church, Women of Reform Judaism, Young Women’s Christian Association.
    http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/justthefacts.html#3

    At bottom, this crackpot singer is just that – a crackpot.

  42. Over 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific research has shown that homosexuality, in and of itself, is not associated with any mental disorders, deviant behavior, or other emotional or social problems, and for more than 25 years, both the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association have urged all mental health professionals to help dispel (not reinforce) these fallacies.

    Regarding reparative therapies themselves, in 1997, out of concern that such “gay-to-straight” conversions” held much potential harm to patients, the American Psychological Association passed a resolution affirming opposition to such schemes as fraudulent.

    THE FACTS:

    1. Regarding Reparative Therapy:
    “The most important fact about “reparative therapy,” also sometimes known as “conversion” therapy, is that it is based on an understanding of homosexuality that has been rejected by all the major health and mental health professions.” http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/justthefacts.html#2

    2. Regarding Transformational Ministries:
    “Transformational ministry” is a term used to describe the use of religion to eliminate homosexual desires. The most important fact about “transformational ministry” is that its view of homosexuality is not representative of the views of all people of faith. Many deeply religious people and a number of religious congregations and denominations are supportive and accepting of lesbian, gay, and bisexual people and their right to be protected from the discriminatory acts of others. For example, the following organizations have endorsed passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would prohibit employment discrimination based on sexual orientation:
    American Ethical Union, American Friends Service Committee, American Jewish Committee, American Jewish Congress, Church of the Brethren, Church Women United, Dignity/USA, Episcopal Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Hadassah, WZOA, The Interfaith Alliance, Jewish Women International, National Council of Churches of Christ, USA, National Council of Jewish Women, North Georgia United Methodists, Presbyterian Church (USA), Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, Unitarian Universalist Association, United Church of Christ, United Methodist Church, Women of Reform Judaism, Young Women’s Christian Association.
    http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/justthefacts.html#3

    At bottom, this crackpot singer is just that – a crackpot.

  43. Paula:

    Rudy turned Clinton’s words on their head. What she said was that she wasn’t going to propose the baby bonds idea because it would cost too much and wouldn’t be fiscally responsible given the other priorities. She said that she has a million idea, but the country can’t afford all of them and, as President, she’ll have to make the hard decisions about priorities in order to be fiscally responsible and reduce the deficit.

    Rudy just pulled the quote out of context.

  44. carbynew,

    We agree with Morris’ conclusions not necessarily his reasoning. He is right on Edwards having no political career left as far as the presidency. We wrote an article on this a while back. Edwards did not adjust his campaign when it became apparent that Obama was going to run. Now Edwards, at this late date is trying to pivot his campaign but it is too too late. He also hired the worse people possible for his campaign.

    Morris is also right on Hillary and the prospects for victory. Hillary will also bring out tons of women voters.

    The Democrats might do even better in the Senate than the 8 seats Morris predicts. We are close to a filibuster proof majority. Expect this to be a key issue as the Ripublican nominee realizes he is going to lose to Hillary. The Ripublicans will campaign on the theme of not giving the entire government over to the Democrats. The response from the Democrats at that time should be that we need a complete change from top to bottom.

  45. What has overcome Dick Morris? This is the first article he’s written in several years in which he is not blinded by his hatred of the Clintons.

    Is the this the bitter pundit’s version of hopping on the train before it leaves the station?

    I’ve been frustrated by his commentary ever since he lost his objectivity. He really is a skilled political analyst, but he’s like Chris Matthews…so consumed by Hillary hate that he’s worthless.

    This article is very different. I wonder if Mark Penn showed him some polling? Or, if he’s switched to self-preservation and is setting himself up to call the election right, even though he hates the outcome?

  46. OK. I went back and read the article again. There’s no doubt in my mind that Penn has shared Clinton’s poll data on unmarried women with him.

    There’s no other plausible explanation for Morris saying Clinton will carry North Carolina, because there is no other plausible explanation for Clinton carrying North Carolina.

    Penn was stunning in laying out the women’s vote rationale for Charlie Rose the other night. He talked about the emotional response that is going to hit the electorate when Hillary is actually nominated about actually electing the first woman President…an emotional response that will drive the election. He asked a brilliantly simple question: what other group is the majority of the electorate (54%) and has never elected one of their own?

  47. hwc, Morris is probably just seeing what is out there in the open, not necessarily any Penn data. Morris has been blinded by hate for years now, but that hate and dumb spin usually only come out when he knows hate is what the audience wants to hear.

    In this case this was a private interview for the story. Morris can be sharp in private not the nutcase he is on Fixed News.

    For those willing to look at objective data, not colored by emotion, the numbers for Hillary do look very good when it comes to the solidifying women’s vote.

    The North Carolina prediction is interesting particularly since no one is predicting that Edwards has a chance there.

    And btw, this is about Hillary. Other women have run before for president and never fared well. New York State was known as a death trap for statewide women candidates until Hillary.

    Hillary received 22% of the Ripublican women’s vote in 2006. Morris and other Hillary haters are just beginning to wake up to the potential giant vote Hillary will awaken.

  48. hwc: There’s no doubt in my mind that Penn has shared Clinton’s poll data on unmarried women with him.

    No. Morris wrote a book on this in 2006 (Hillary vs Condi) where he went into great detail on this. This is the reason he was pushing a Condi run at the time.

  49. hillfans, im no fan of foxnews but just this morning i saw a clip of obama,hillary, and richardson standing attention during a singing of the national athem and guess who the only one that did not have a hand on the heart? OBAMA! hillary and richardson did. this guy at the least can show some respect to the flag. it does not mean a support for the war like he said of the lapel flag pin.

  50. Terrondt,
    That was at the Harkin Steak fry, and it was hilarious. There was a drunk (free beer) woman with a Richardson shirt and sign, and while obama was speaking, she was yelling “yeah! wooo! Richardson Yeah!” It was hilarious.

  51. Well, I feel a little bad for Obama about the anthem. Is it possible they did not do that in Hawaii? I have to think he forgot, but it is ugly footage for a GE.

  52. admin,

    Gosh, North Carolina! After you guys mentioned NC, Rasmussen has just released a bunch of head-to-head matchups, this must be disheartening to Edwards. No, I don’t believe Hillary can win that state, but these numbers again debunch Edwards’ ‘electability’ crap.

    Clinton 43
    Rudy 44

    Clinton 44
    Thompson 44

    Clinton 43
    McCain 43

    Clinton 46
    Romney 41

    Isn’t it sweet?

  53. Is Rasmussen that accurate? The numbers vasilate either for Clinton or against.
    Rudy is a downer, I can’t see Hillary behind him in any poll.

    Mrs. S.

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