Comments on: Casualties: Barack Obama And The Battle Of Charleston http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/ We started this website because we believe Senator Hillary Clinton will be an excellent 44th President of the United States. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:59:05 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: kitforhill http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1308 kitforhill Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:12:46 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1308 The confusion on preconditions vs. conditions on the nutroots was ridiculous. I had to read one post like 3 times to even try and make sense of his argument. I mean if you have to do that to support your candidate...something is seriously wrong. I think the average person should be able to understand a candidate's answer without resorting to an attorney. The semantics debate was truly amazing. Talk about grasping at straws. The confusion on preconditions vs. conditions on the nutroots was ridiculous. I had to read one post like 3 times to even try and make sense of his argument. I mean if you have to do that to support your candidate…something is seriously wrong. I think the average person should be able to understand a candidate’s answer without resorting to an attorney. The semantics debate was truly amazing. Talk about grasping at straws.

]]> By: terrondt http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1280 terrondt Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:57:14 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1280 kostner you as allways on the ball on the hillary haters of the fringe loopy kooks. you can's change their minds. until hillary is elected nov 2008 they will always say she is unelectable and even then they will come up with excuses on why she won. pathetic. kostner you as allways on the ball on the hillary haters of the fringe loopy kooks. you can’s change their minds. until hillary is elected nov 2008 they will always say she is unelectable and even then they will come up with excuses on why she won. pathetic.

]]> By: mollyjrichards http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1245 mollyjrichards Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:55:45 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1245 Hey folks, It sure looks like things are mighty confused in the Obama camp to me--for sure on this point. Clearly it means that this little spat, which they brought on themselves, due to his ill-considered answer in the debate, is not worthy of any more time on our part, much less Hillary's. Anyone want to wager how long before a shake up in that campaign staff? Once again, Hillary and company are doing a great job of staying on message and above the fray. --MollyJ Hey folks, It sure looks like things are mighty confused in the Obama camp to me–for sure on this point. Clearly it means that this little spat, which they brought on themselves, due to his ill-considered answer in the debate, is not worthy of any more time on our part, much less Hillary’s. Anyone want to wager how long before a shake up in that campaign staff?

Once again, Hillary and company are doing a great job of staying on message and above the fray. –MollyJ

]]> By: admin http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1242 admin Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:32:27 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1242 Canaan: As Staff wrote earlier in a response to JoeFriday, the "condition" vs. "precondition" argument can be refuted this way: We’ve noticed that Obama supporters have been trying to differentiate between “conditions” as in the Miami Herald article and the “no preconditions” at the debate. Their first attempt, like Axelrod’s, was to deny Obama was against actually having preconditions and that there was NO DIFFERENCE between his position and the Hillary/Edwards/Biden etc. position. Then on Friday, JoeFriday, Obama eroded that defense when he said there was A BIG DIFFERENCE between his position and Hillary/Edwards/Biden’s etc. position. With the latest Saturday statement by Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor the Obama campaign is now back to saying there is NO DIFFERENCE between Obama and Hillary/Edwards/Biden. The question to be answered is whether the confusion is a sign of the utter shambles the Obama campaign is in? For Obama supporters Vietor and Obama have both used the word “precondition” and not a variant so Obama supporters don’t have that distinction to hang on to anymore. Canaan:
As Staff wrote earlier in a response to JoeFriday, the “condition” vs. “precondition” argument can be refuted this way:

We’ve noticed that Obama supporters have been trying to differentiate between “conditions” as in the Miami Herald article and the “no preconditions” at the debate. Their first attempt, like Axelrod’s, was to deny Obama was against actually having preconditions and that there was NO DIFFERENCE between his position and the Hillary/Edwards/Biden etc. position.

Then on Friday, JoeFriday, Obama eroded that defense when he said there was A BIG DIFFERENCE between his position and Hillary/Edwards/Biden’s etc. position. With the latest Saturday statement by Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor the Obama campaign is now back to saying there is NO DIFFERENCE between Obama and Hillary/Edwards/Biden.

The question to be answered is whether the confusion is a sign of the utter shambles the Obama campaign is in? For Obama supporters Vietor and Obama have both used the word “precondition” and not a variant so Obama supporters don’t have that distinction to hang on to anymore.

]]> By: Canaan http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1241 Canaan Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:23:24 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1241 I followed a link from hillaryhub to dailykos and I must say, that place has turned into a sewer. I wouldn't say this if I didn't mean it, because it used to be a great blog, but it feels nastier than a filthy porn site in that place. One poster was trying to argue that 'under certain conditions' doesn't mean 'preconditions'. Try this on for size: 'Will you marry me?' 'Under certain conditions, I will.' You're not going to run out and buy a tux. Obama has turned the race into a spin toilet on the mildest provocation from Hillary. Biden said worse about her proposal to cut funds to the Iraq government. She didn't go nitro over it. I followed a link from hillaryhub to dailykos and I must say, that place has turned into a sewer. I wouldn’t say this if I didn’t mean it, because it used to be a great blog, but it feels nastier than a filthy porn site in that place.

One poster was trying to argue that ‘under certain conditions’ doesn’t mean ‘preconditions’. Try this on for size: ‘Will you marry me?’ ‘Under certain conditions, I will.’ You’re not going to run out and buy a tux. Obama has turned the race into a spin toilet on the mildest provocation from Hillary. Biden said worse about her proposal to cut funds to the Iraq government. She didn’t go nitro over it.

]]> By: kostner http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1239 kostner Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:42:27 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1239 hi mollyjrichards, If you are new to blogsphere, don't take things too seriously. Blogs are the far left of the democratic party, it has had no tangible impact on the real votes so far whatsoever. Dean got the overwhelming support but still lost, Lamont was another example. Bloggers hated Lieberman, but you know the results... There's no reason for you to respond to nasty stuff on various boards. It's useless. Most people who post are strong partisans, there's little you can do to change their minds. Its a completely waste of time if you respond aimlessly on different blogs. So I believe we need to focus. This site is great, we need to spread its influence, let more Hill supporters to gather here and exchange ideas. We are still in the minority, that's why it's important to focus on 1 or 2 blogs we can make a difference if we are united there. right now, my suggestion is myDD and this site. If you have more time, post pro Hill diary on dialykos. thats it. hi mollyjrichards,

If you are new to blogsphere, don’t take things too seriously. Blogs are the far left of the democratic party, it has had no tangible impact on the real votes so far whatsoever. Dean got the overwhelming support but still lost, Lamont was another example. Bloggers hated Lieberman, but you know the results…

There’s no reason for you to respond to nasty stuff on various boards. It’s useless. Most people who post are strong partisans, there’s little you can do to change their minds. Its a completely waste of time if you respond aimlessly on different blogs.

So I believe we need to focus. This site is great, we need to spread its influence, let more Hill supporters to gather here and exchange ideas.

We are still in the minority, that’s why it’s important to focus on 1 or 2 blogs we can make a difference if we are united there. right now, my suggestion is myDD and this site. If you have more time, post pro Hill diary on dialykos. thats it.

]]> By: mollyjrichards http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1238 mollyjrichards Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:14:35 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1238 Howdy folks, Been reading about South Carolina and also this discussion 'bout blogs. Admin: loved the video this morning. It was real show to wake up to and a great chuckle. It sounds like things went well for Hillary in Beaufort yesterday, despite one looney with a sign. I read the comments to the online version of the article and there's some real nasty stuff. Not anything outrageous, Just typical name calling ("commie" etc., real sophistocated stuff). I probably am too thin skinned too. LOL...although we've been through much worse in previous campaigns. All this makes me wonder, what's the best way to help the campaign at this point? As strong advocates for Hillary, is it best to start our own blogs, keep an eye on the news and report any really off the wall type articles/reports, or post on blogs that are already out there. I see your discussion above about different blogs. I have to admit the blogosphere is just a tad new to me, so I am a bit uncertain about how those things work. I am just looking fo the best, most effective thing to do right now. --MollyJ. Howdy folks, Been reading about South Carolina and also this discussion ’bout blogs.

Admin: loved the video this morning. It was real show to wake up to and a great chuckle.

It sounds like things went well for Hillary in Beaufort yesterday, despite one looney with a sign. I read the comments to the online version of the article and there’s some real nasty stuff. Not anything outrageous, Just typical name calling (”commie” etc., real sophistocated stuff). I probably am too thin skinned too. LOL…although we’ve been through much worse in previous campaigns.

All this makes me wonder, what’s the best way to help the campaign at this point? As strong advocates for Hillary, is it best to start our own blogs, keep an eye on the news and report any really off the wall type articles/reports, or post on blogs that are already out there. I see your discussion above about different blogs. I have to admit the blogosphere is just a tad new to me, so I am a bit uncertain about how those things work. I am just looking fo the best, most effective thing to do right now. –MollyJ.

]]> By: Paula http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1237 Paula Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:05:38 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1237 BTW, that Rasmussen poll I mentioned that asked the precondition question shows Hillary leads on national security among candidates of both parties. http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_rasmussen_meetings_w_lead.php BTW, that Rasmussen poll I mentioned that asked the precondition question shows Hillary leads on national security among candidates of both parties.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_rasmussen_meetings_w_lead.php

]]> By: Paula http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1234 Paula Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:55:53 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1234 Thank you, SactoDem. Perhaps I'll start frequenting DU again, lol. BTW, does anyone know how much it costs to advertise on blogs like DailyKos or Talkingpointsmemo? I noticed an Obama ad on TPM and was curious. Thank you, SactoDem. Perhaps I’ll start frequenting DU again, lol.

BTW, does anyone know how much it costs to advertise on blogs like DailyKos or Talkingpointsmemo? I noticed an Obama ad on TPM and was curious.

]]> By: adriennewright http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/29/casualties-barack-obama-and-the-battle-of-charleston/#comment-1233 adriennewright Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:37:00 +0000 http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180#comment-1233 Admin, That was great. Love it, Love it. Very funny, yet very true. In addition, I lost my password for my account under userID lonnette33 and I believe I input the incorrect email address. When I try to obtain my password, it is sent to the wrong email address. Therefore, I had to create another account another userID adriennewright. Is there a way for me obtain my password for my lonnette33 userID? Admin,

That was great. Love it, Love it. Very funny, yet very true.

In addition, I lost my password for my account under userID lonnette33 and I believe I input the incorrect email address. When I try to obtain my password, it is sent to the wrong email address. Therefore, I had to create another account another userID adriennewright. Is there a way for me obtain my password for my lonnette33 userID?

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