Comments on: Barack Obama Flops, Then Flips – Part I

By: Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » Aftermath: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and the Battle of Charleston

Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:27:21 +0000

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By: Paula

Paula — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:28:11 +0000

Thanks, kostner. I keep the faith.

By: kostner

kostner — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:20:37 +0000

I’m wondering what is his burn rate? He seems to be spending quite heavily. Those ‘voter registration’ ads in Iowa certainly is moving his numbers down. LOL.

By: admin

admin — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:11:16 +0000

Regarding polls. Now is the time to influence the debate not worry about numbers. We can move the numbers.

More importantly, as someone has pointed out here already, Obama is now advertising heavily. On just about every website today there are multiple Obama advertisements. Obama has been advertising heavily in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina – the ads are clearly not working. Let Obama waste his money.

Let’s stay focused.

By: DCDemocrat

DCDemocrat — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:50:32 +0000

Hey, Everybody! I’ve been busy today, so I haven’t been around, but one prominent Kossack over at daily kos (Delaware Dem) has written a diary saying he’s forsaking Obama over the Bush-Cheney comparison, but a lot of Kossacks clearly are unhappy with Obama’s tactic.

Hey, Kostner: I owe you a diary.

sandy1938: I think Hillary’s psychological expert scoped out Mr. Obama, and they were looking for a moment to exploit a vulnerability they found.

HillaryLandRocks: I went back over there a little while ago, and the Obama ad was down, but I’ll follow through on your excellent advice.

By: kostner

kostner — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:48:58 +0000

Paula,

You really can’t draw any conclusion from one poll, to be honest. If that’s the case, Obama should have wrapped up long time ago. He lost to Rudy in NY, CA, OH, and FL in SurveyUSA and the lastest Quinnipac poll. Hill beats Rudy in all those polls.

Don’t anticipate smooth sailing, but I’m really happy tonight since the strategic goal of driving up Obama’s negativity is right in the making. His net positive #s are my big concern. You need time, and his constant mistakes to drive up those negativity numbers. 5 months should be sufficient though.

By: Paula

Paula — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:39:16 +0000

kostner, I agree with you about Iowa. I was just a little stunned by the Battleground poll showing Obama doing so much better than Hillary vs. Rudy.

By: secretpolitics

secretpolitics — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:30:19 +0000

kostner –
“When you are at the top – there is no where else to go but down”
I suppose that is more true in IA!!

By: secretpolitics

secretpolitics — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:24:01 +0000

Kostner,
I agree with your reasons and I myself now think it serves her purpose to stay as a strong second that first!!!

By: kostner

kostner — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:19:08 +0000

Paula, terrondt,

From my bottom of my heart, I really don’t like to see Hillary pull ahead in IA, especially at such early time. This is not spin. Here are the reasons:

As a supporter, I have two big fears for her chance in IA.

The first fear is that Obama will somehow overtake her, but it looks like voters in that state are not shopping for ‘hope’, they’re more interested in experience and resume(look at Richardson’s strength).

The second fear is that if she somehow maintains a small lead in many IA polls before caucauses, media will paint any narrow loss as a huge blow. IA is extremely close, so sitting in second place instead of first is definitely not bad. You want media to paint a narrative that Edwards is leading in Iowa, not Hillary.

You don’t want Edwards to collapse in IA due to his nation wide meltdown. Since it’s difficult to predict where those supporters will go if he collapses. Since the race is close, if any of these supporters go to Obama camp, that will tip the scale.

So I’m happy for a close second place in any IA poll.